February 26, 2013

The Social Negotiation Process of Humor
— Ace

Specifically, humor at someone else's expense. Mild-mannered humor or self-deprecating humor doesn't need this sort of a negotiation.

I've talked about this before but never this clearly.

Laughter can be modeled as a three-party game in which the parties bargain for inclusion in a two-party coalition (wit and listener) that excludes the third (the butt). No one party can dictate what is risible. Instead, the selection of butts is a matter of negotiation between wit and listener. The wit proposes a butt for laughter, and this offer may be accepted by the listener through a return of laughter or rejected through silence. In such a laughter exchange, individuals may be seen to trade off butts through implicit agreements about who is risible. These bargains determine what counts as a comic vice...

I've mentioned that while the joke-teller (the "wit") is free to make any joke he likes, only the listeners, in concert with him, can decide together that the joke works or is funny or that the target is a valid one (and targeted for the right reasons).

Sometimes people will propose just "joking about how dumb Obama is," and while I agree he is kind of dumb, I don't see that as a likely avenue for widespread transmission of the idea. Too many people would disagree that that's a valid target, and hence, wouldn't laugh. And hence, while the joke may work for a smaller audience (engaged conservative partisans) it would fail at the purpose for which it is deployed (shifting the conventional wisdom of the public).*

Even though it wasn't humorous, I'm pretty confident a similar social bargaining principle underlay Romney's frequent statements that "Obama is a nice guy, but he's in over his head." I think he believed (and polling would back him up) that Obama was adjudged a "nice guy" by 55% of the public, but only a minority had confidence in his ability to do the job to which he was elected. Ergo, he made the case upon which Obama was vulnerable and avoided the case which would be more difficult.

This post is very apropos given that leftists around the blogosphere are right now claiming "I just don't see why Michelle Malkin's funny dances are funny." Well, the media -- which swears it's not liberal -- doesn't understand how anything at all about Obama or liberalism could possibly be funny. They don't agree that these things have any "comedic vice" in them at all to be valid targets of joking.

Thus, the stone-faced act.

* There's also a misguided anti-racism that thwarts such a joke. Too many people would automatically think "Gee I can never say a black person is dumb, that would be racist" without pausing to consider the more sophisticated idea that that itself is racially condescending -- that such a "rule" that black folks can never be, for reasons best left unsaid, treated Just Like Everyone Else, is itself a bit racist.

Obviously you wouldn't want to have to explain that in the middle of your joke!

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1 the president is a scoamf

Posted by: phoenixgirl spring training is here!!!!! at February 26, 2013 09:20 AM (GVxQo)

2 Too many people would disagree that that's a valid target, and hence, wouldn't laugh Glenn Reynolds, I think, had a sneak attack on this at least for a while. He’d replace Obama with Bush or Palin or whoever, and then after the (expected) laugh, do an “oops”. Which of course switches the “butt” from Obama to the listener, which probably isn’t helpful. But it is at least temporarily shaming.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 26, 2013 09:22 AM (QF8uk)

3 What does this have to do with 'Friends'?

Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2013 09:22 AM (wAyc8)

4 Liberals would be funny if they weren't so damned serious.....I don't laugh at the jokes, I believe them.

Posted by: BignJames at February 26, 2013 09:22 AM (Sg0G/)

5 Liberals are not funny.

We laugh at them, but not for the reasons they think.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2013 09:23 AM (+iA5G)

6 The truth is never funny.  So when you say Obama is dumb it is not funny because he IS dumb.  There are two reasons he is President.  He is black and the Republicans still run moderate lackluster candidates due to a broken primary system.

Posted by: Vic at February 26, 2013 09:23 AM (53z96)

7 Maybe they just know it's not polite to make fun of the slow.

Posted by: dudenotinsantacruz at February 26, 2013 09:24 AM (ZCu9v)

8 Will Michelle Obama get a Lifetime Achievement Oscar for playing Klingon #3 in several Trek movies?

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2013 09:24 AM (+iA5G)

9 How about jokes about Obama being a liar?

Obama's philosophy is that if you tell the truth, you don't have to remember what you said except with the caveat that the MSM will disremember it for you.

On Drudge, ABC News edits out Michelle's lie on Good Morning America this morning.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 26, 2013 09:24 AM (Hx5uv)

10 I certainly know I find some people very funny until they make fun of conservatives.  Then they're suddenly unfunny.  No one likes being the butt and will find something to be humorless once they are made to be.

Posted by: Heralder at February 26, 2013 09:25 AM (+xmn4)

11 Admitting it was funny would be equal to admitting that their GodKing Obama and his Queen and/or their values and beliefs had faults. Which could possibly bring the whole thing crumbling to the ground.

Posted by: DangerGirl - Stop this thing, I want off at February 26, 2013 09:25 AM (enBmn)

12 7 The truth is never funny. So when you say Obama is dumb it is not funny because he IS dumb. There are two reasons he is President. He is black and the Republicans still run moderate lackluster candidates due to a broken primary system.

Posted by: Vic at February 26, 2013 01:23 PM (53z96)


--The truth can be funny.  I for one love gallows humor.  And then sometimes I have to laugh to keep from crying.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2013 09:25 AM (+iA5G)

13 Humor, how does that work?  So many target rich areas to mock this administration and the ruling Democrats, but "comedians" (ie. SNL, Letterman, Kimmel, Conana O'Brien, etc.) can't find anything funny about our current Democrat controlled gubamint.  John Kerry's recent WTF speech in Germany, Menedez and his underaged hookers, gaffetastic Joe Biden (the gift that never stops giving), idiocy that gushes from Nancy Pelosi on a weekly basis, Debbie Wasserman Schulz, the inanities uttered from the very lips of our Dear Leader, Jack Lew, Chuck Hagel, the list goes on and on.  In their determination to be the palace guard who protects Obama from anything stupid he or any other Democrat says, "comedians" are ignoring a treasure trove of funneh.

Posted by: runningrn at February 26, 2013 09:26 AM (Ag5D2)

14 This is a fine "idea" ace, of racial equality. Too bad millions of HR departments, EEO classes, and military sensitivity training beg to differ.

Posted by: Mr Pink at February 26, 2013 09:26 AM (qeTzs)

15 I agree with Vic, I'm not laughing that Obama is dumb, it's pathetic and created a horrible precedent. Any inexperienced dummy can now realistically be President.

Posted by: mare at February 26, 2013 09:26 AM (A98Xu)

16 True believers are never funny except to the outsider and the outsiders only get to joke among themselves.

Posted by: huerfano at February 26, 2013 09:27 AM (bAGA/)

17 Great post, since we were all thinking it.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 26, 2013 09:27 AM (qkv/i)

18 I was wondering, in the context of the Onion joke and the humorless scolds on the left, if you thought that perhaps Lena Dunham's comment wasn't serious. I read it as her making a joke at the expense of hypocritical hard-edged feminists (where she represents a 3.0 urban 'hipster' feminism) I dunno. It seemed more like a failed Jon Stewart joke than an actual plea to spare feminists while giving the go ahead to cast aspersions on conservative gals.

Posted by: coondawg68 at February 26, 2013 09:27 AM (VhcOZ)

19

 individuals may be seen to trade off butts through implicit agreements

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Please, tell me more about this process

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at February 26, 2013 09:27 AM (SO2Q8)

20 Sorry I cant help being a pussy pessimistic downer anymore. I need to get the sand surgically removed from my vagina.

Posted by: Mr Pink at February 26, 2013 09:27 AM (qeTzs)

21 11 I certainly know I find some people very funny until they make fun of conservatives. Then they're suddenly unfunny. No one likes being the butt and will find something to be humorless once they are made to be.

Posted by: Heralder at February 26, 2013 01:25 PM (+xmn4)


--And then there are assclowns like Patton Oswalt who I always thought unfunny, then I hear mock Tea Partiers and that confirms why I already thought them unfunny.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2013 09:27 AM (+iA5G)

22 Take my wife- please.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 26, 2013 09:27 AM (8sCoq)

23 I've heard to for something to be funny, it needs to be unexpected. So clearly those closest to Obama would expect those dance moves.

Posted by: dudenotinsantacruz at February 26, 2013 09:27 AM (ZCu9v)

24

You know, I get up, shut my door, hoping to see Michelle Malkin really shake that ass.

 

Funny, light-hearted, but no real ass shaking.

 

Epic.  Fail.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 26, 2013 09:28 AM (tVTLU)

25 The left's hatred and bitterness are palpable.  I laugh as I imagine them all eaten up with cancer.  Lefties do provide me with amusement.

Posted by: kathysaysso at February 26, 2013 09:28 AM (6H6o8)

26

I don't think Obama is funny, but he gets lots of laughs when he demonizes half the population in front of lefties, union commies and fools.

 

You have to give him one thing, he knows his audience.

Posted by: Invictus at February 26, 2013 09:28 AM (OQpzc)

27 "Tragedy is when I cut my finger.
Comedy is when you walk into an open sewer and die."
Mel Brooks.

Posted by: Thresherman at February 26, 2013 09:28 AM (Vbcjo)

28 Specifically, humor at someone else's expense. Skeeter!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2013 09:29 AM (GFM2b)

29

 Instead, the selection of butts is a matter of negotiation between wit and listener.

 

This isn't how it works in La Republica Dominica.

Posted by: Bob Menendez at February 26, 2013 09:29 AM (wAyc8)

30 One day Air Force One crashed on a farm. Quickly the FBI came to investigate. They knew there were no survivors. They looked frantically through the wreckage to try and find the president's body but it was nowhere to be found. There were only a few security guards. Maybe the president hadn't died. Maybe he had gotten out and went to get some help. In the next field over, there was a farmer plowing his field like nothing had even happened. They quickly ran over to him.

FBI agent: "Excuse me Sir, did you see that plane crash over there?"

Farmer: Yessiree, I certainly did.

FBI agent: Did you see anyone get up and walk away?

Farmer: Nope, I buried them all this morning. Didn't wantem stinkin' up the place.

FBI agent: Did you realize the President was on that plane?

Farmer: Yep, buried him too.

FBI agent: You buried the president?

Farmer: Well he kept saying he was still alive but you know what a liar he is!

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 26, 2013 09:29 AM (Hx5uv)

31

 

Okay...it's deemed 'racist' to call him dumb.

 

How about Diabolical Tyrant with delusions of godhood?

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 26, 2013 09:30 AM (eyJSG)

32 27 I don't think Obama is funny, but he gets lots of laughs when he demonizes half the population in front of lefties, union commies and fools.

You have to give him one thing, he knows his audience.

Posted by: Invictus at February 26, 2013 01:28 PM (OQpzc)


--I wouldn't say he's unfunny, but I'd put it that once the fool got re-elected, the humor became much darker because it bespoke more about the country than about the man.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2013 09:30 AM (+iA5G)

33 Things are only funny when they aren't serious. AFV wouldn't be funny if it was a horror film. Jon Stewart makes fun of the liberals too. He is without a doubt biased, heavily biased, to the point that I had to stop watching him, he was pissing me off too much, but sometimes I can laugh at his jokes. And some people that I used to think were hilarious like Alec Baldwin just piss me off now. I truly can't stand the sight of the man. And it ticks me off because I think he is a good actor. I don't like the fact that I like his movies.

Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 09:30 AM (HS3dy)

34 BTW,

Frank J. at IMAO makes Obama the dummy jokes all the time and I find them pretty darn good!  I think the problem is that this line of satire hasn't been presented enough times to non-partisans to sink in.

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 26, 2013 09:30 AM (UypUQ)

35 I was halfway watching "How I Met Your Mother" last night and I think they used the JEF as the butt of a visual joke.  I'm not totally sure, because I wasn't paying full attention, but I think he was at least the object of a quick rip on people.

I hope I'm right because to be ridiculed on television would put a whole beach of sand in his vag.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 26, 2013 09:30 AM (OE/b4)

36 "Gee I can never say a black person is dumb, that would be racist"

****

Unless you're a democrat senator on a Sunday Morning major network interview and you want to say Clarence Thomas is an ignorant embarrasment who can't write a cogent opinion.

Posted by: conscription? at February 26, 2013 09:31 AM (MhA4j)

37 Sometimes people will propose just "joking about how dumb Obama is," and while I agree he is kind of dumb, I don't see that as a likely avenue for widespread transmission of the idea. Srsly? Leader of the free world and can't do 7th grade math?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2013 09:31 AM (GFM2b)

38 We make Michelle the butt of a lot of jokes around the ol' White House. That's a big fuckin' deal!

Posted by: Sheriff Joe at February 26, 2013 09:32 AM (qkv/i)

39 >>>Unless you're a democrat senator on a Sunday Morning major network interview and you want to say Clarence Thomas is an ignorant embarrasment who can't write a cogent opinion. Well, he's not as clean as Barry. And he has more negro dialect.

Posted by: Sheriff Joe at February 26, 2013 09:33 AM (qkv/i)

40 The only thing we have to fear, is the sequester.  No shit, there will be cannibalism in the streets!

Posted by: Obama DR at February 26, 2013 09:33 AM (Hx5uv)

41

"Srsly? Leader of the free world and can't do 7th grade math? "

Consider the second in command

Posted by: dudenotinsantacruz at February 26, 2013 09:34 AM (ZCu9v)

42 The only thing we have to fear, is the sequester. No shit, there will be cannibalism in the streets! Posted by: Obama DR at February 26, 2013 01:33 PM (Hx5uv) I have black market salt for sale.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 26, 2013 09:34 AM (l86i3)

43 Admitting it was funny would be equal to admitting that their GodKing ....and/or their values and beliefs had faults. Which could possibly bring the whole thing crumbling to the ground.

That's another variable.  People who are confident can take a lot of ribbing.  People who are brittle can't.  O is like badly annealed glass.  One touch and he'd shatter.  So the personal characteristics of the recipient matter.

Posted by: pep at February 26, 2013 09:35 AM (YXmuI)

44 Governor Doughnut getting hammered on Twitter for rolling over for Obamacare

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 26, 2013 09:35 AM (8sCoq)

45 39We make Michelle the butt of a lot of jokes around the ol' White House.

That's a big fuckin' deal!

Posted by: Sheriff Joe at February 26, 2013 01:32 PM (qkv/i)

That's because the size of the butt is actually the joke.

Posted by: Heralder at February 26, 2013 09:35 AM (+xmn4)

46 Ultimately the Joke is on us

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2013 09:35 AM (9Bj8R)

47 Explaining humor is the least funny/amusing conversation you can have.

Posted by: The OverExplaining Comedian at February 26, 2013 09:35 AM (j2lYi)

48 Actually the funniest part of the Malkin video is the predictable "harumph harumph not funny" reaction from the left. The content of the vid itself was just OK in my opinion, but the knowledge that this would crawl up the butt of hacks like Andi Sullivan is what makes it hilarious.

Posted by: DangerGirl - Stop this thing, I want off at February 26, 2013 09:35 AM (74tYA)

49 King O runs a castle. He would only allow those who would laugh at his jokes in his court. Or, pay them to laugh. Or, drug them to laugh; the blue pill, perhaps. Those that do not, are exiled. And, when we make the funny, it goes right over their heads, because their heads are so far up King O's arse.

Posted by: beach at February 26, 2013 09:35 AM (LpQbZ)

50 Saying Obama's dumb just because he can't fathom Algebra is one thing. He's an accomplished liar though. Of that assessment there is no contradictory argument.

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 26, 2013 09:36 AM (MhA4j)

51 And some people that I used to think were hilarious like Alec Baldwin just piss me off now. I truly can't stand the sight of the man. And it ticks me off because I think he is a good actor. I don't like the fact that I like his movies.

Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 01:30 PM (HS3dy)


--I'll still watch his movies, up to and including The Cooler, but nothing after that, and none of his shitty TV shows.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2013 09:36 AM (+iA5G)

52 The US was more reliant on the Middle East for its oil imports last year, underscoring the critical importance of the politically unstable region for the country despite the growing energy independence its shale gas revolution is bringing. Now that's a joke on us also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2013 09:36 AM (9Bj8R)

53 Who is the butt of the jokes of our Muslim comic?

Posted by: dudenotinsantacruz at February 26, 2013 09:37 AM (ZCu9v)

54 He's an accomplished liar though. Of that assessment there is no contradictory argument. Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 26, 2013 01:36 PM (MhA4j) best liar in a generation for sure

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2013 09:37 AM (9Bj8R)

55 AoSHQ: Come for the politics and pointy elbows, stay for the sociological discussions (And we still love you for it, Ace.)

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Ampersandsaurus at February 26, 2013 09:37 AM (GBXon)

56 best liar in a generation for sure Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2013 01:37 PM (9Bj8R) Hey now, he may have quanity, but I have quality.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 26, 2013 09:38 AM (l86i3)

57

Ace, it just seems to me (personal anecdote here, based purely upon observation) that conservatives as a whole are a lot happier than liberals. Yes, we morons make jokes and make fun of the various liberals out there, poking at them and deriding them, but we generally have a good time, and laugh and joke about other things- eg. SMOD, crossbows v long bows, etc. and just seem to get along (kind of like a college freshman dormitory, if you will) and this is generally a fun and happy place to be. 

 

On the other hand, liberals seem to be naturally unhappy people. The only fun they seem to have is making fun of conservatives, and saying nasty things about them. That seems to be about the extent (and ability) of their "comedy"; otherwise, they just sit around glaring at one another and whining about how unfair things are, and deluding each other about how great the SCOAMF is.  

Posted by: DaveinNC at February 26, 2013 09:38 AM (boNGU)

58 What is funny about liberals, really? That they adore the baby killing business? That they love putting more minorities into poverty, on food stamps, and on the street? That they hate our military? That they hate our Constitution? Honestly, what is funny to say about totalitarianism?

Posted by: beach at February 26, 2013 09:38 AM (LpQbZ)

59 Contrast the wildy successful TOTUS meme. Everytime a lib saw TFG, he was behind the glass rectangles. Every stinking day without fail.

Posted by: Fred Sneezeguard (FWRP #TOTUS1) at February 26, 2013 09:38 AM (i7B17)

60 Speaking of a JOKE: House Democrats led by Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) have introduced legislation that would create a federal Department of Peacebuilding, which would be tasked with everything from finding ways to scale back U.S. military actions to ending bullying at schools. Under her bill, H.R. 808, the new department would be led by a Cabinet-level Secretary of Peacebuilding, who would have a seat on the National Security Council. The department would be “dedicated to peacebuilding, peacemaking, and the study and promotion of conditions conducive to both domestic and international peace and a culture of peace.” Stupid like this makes my head hurt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2013 09:38 AM (9Bj8R)

61

 

Diabolical Tyrant with Delusions of Godhood.....DTwDOG.

 

Actually, this is more accurate than calling him a SCoaMF.

Because, unfortunately...he's not a failure.

He's succeeding in most of his evil plans.

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 26, 2013 09:38 AM (eyJSG)

62 Daily Caller. GOP Congressman from Va, Scott Rigell, to fly on Air Force One today with Obama. Rigell donated $1k to Obama in 2008, and also wants to help Obama raise taxes to avoid the sequester.

Sounds like this idiot will switch to the Dems soon

Posted by: jackj at February 26, 2013 09:39 AM (4WesI)

63 You can boil this down a lot farther. When someone is the "butt" of a joke, they too can still find the humorous device funny. Fail to find a joke about conservatism funny and ANY liberal will tell you to lighten up, and that a healthy, developed sense of humor includes being able to find humor in jokes where your most cherished values are the butt.

Item number 14423566 on the list of liberal hypocrisy. Jokes about liberalism "just aren't funny"

Hence the crash and burn of the Goode Family. Conservatives could laugh at Hank Hill, even though Hill represented the values of most conservatives. Liberals can't laugh at Gerald Goode because he represents their values.

Hence liberals don't possess the sense of humor they say conservatives should have.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 26, 2013 09:39 AM (0q2P7)

64 If you have to explain it, it's not funny.

Posted by: tsj017 at February 26, 2013 09:39 AM (4YUWF)

65 AoSHQ: Come for the politics and pointy elbows, stay for the sociological discussions

I'm just here for the movie reviews.



And the horseman babies.




And Ace yelling at people in the comments.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2013 09:39 AM (KXm42)

66 I must say though, I don't understand why Malkin is held in such high esteem. I think she's an idiot. Didn't she write a book saying we should round up Muslims and put them in "internment" camps? She's like a female Krauthammer... we need new voices.

Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 09:39 AM (HS3dy)

67

Sometimes people will propose just "joking about how dumb Obama is," and while I agree he is kind of dumb, I don't see that as a likely avenue for widespread transmission of the idea. Too many people would disagree that that's a valid target, and hence, wouldn't laugh. And hence, while the joke may work for a smaller audience (engaged conservative partisans) it would fail at the purpose for which it is deployed (shifting the conventional wisdom of the public).*

 

I have to disagree on this point, ace.   The fact is, throughout    this country's history the office of the President has been ripe for humor.     As has been   mentioned on this blog before, some of SNL's funniest skits were their politically-based ones.   Regardless of your political bent it was easy to laugh at Drew Carrey's Bush or Perot, or Phil Hartman's Reagan, or whatshisname's   Gore   (I can never, ever, EVER remember his damn name).         Joking    about the President and his    appointees is as American as apple pie,    regardless of whether or not it shifts    the public's conventional wisdom about the person in office.    The public EXPECTS it.  

 

Your point about race is true, but all the more damning.   If the humor community (if we call them that) finds they need to fall back on,   "We    can't make jokes about Obama because he's black, and    even jokes that have nothing to do with his skin color would be considered racist," then    they're already   past    help    and it's pointless to    even bother talking    about them.      

 

I'm not a big fan    of    taboo humor, but I'm    also aware that      humor which pushes the envelope is humor that makes people think and makes them talk.    If the humor community has given up    not just on pushing the envelope, but   has created its OWN envelope which it    then     refuses to push    (that being that Obama jokes are verboten),       then it's time to find some different    funnymen   (and women).

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 09:39 AM (4df7R)

68
What is funny about liberals, really?

That they adore the baby killing business?

That they love putting more minorities into poverty, on food stamps, and on the street?

That they hate our military?

That they hate our Constitution?

Honestly, what is funny to say about totalitarianism?



Posted by: beach at February 26, 2013 01:38 PM (LpQbZ)


--It's funny because the people who follow them and admire Demotards are morons.  It'll also be funny that they'll be the first casualties while the people they knock as knuckledraggers will survive.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2013 09:40 AM (+iA5G)

69 >>>Honestly, what is funny to say about totalitarianism? I used to take the train from Wilmington to DC every weekend. Now that bitch is ON TIME!

Posted by: Sheriff Joe at February 26, 2013 09:40 AM (qkv/i)

70 What's funny about having eaten dog?

Posted by: dudenotinsantacruz at February 26, 2013 09:41 AM (ZCu9v)

71 And Ace yelling at people in the comments. Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2013 01:39 PM (KXm42) hehe, so true. Once he does the major venting, his mind is freer to post at higher levels of insight. Just don't say Man Up.

Posted by: beach at February 26, 2013 09:41 AM (LpQbZ)

72 69 I must say though, I don't understand why Malkin is held in such high esteem. I think she's an idiot. Didn't she write a book saying we should round up Muslims and put them in "internment" camps? She's like a female Krauthammer... we need new voices.

Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 01:39 PM (HS3dy)


--Got a link for that?

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2013 09:41 AM (+iA5G)

73 crossbows v long bows

***

You mean Team Daryl v, Team Robin Hood?

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 26, 2013 09:42 AM (Hx5uv)

74 Take my wife. Please!

Posted by: Barry Youngman at February 26, 2013 09:42 AM (i7B17)

75 >>>I don't understand why Malkin is held in such high esteem

Ummm. She built Hot Air from nothing placing conservative blogs on the map?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 26, 2013 09:42 AM (0q2P7)

76 McCain, Hagel, McConnell, Boehner, Ryan----hahahahahahaha.  What a fucking joke. 

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 26, 2013 09:42 AM (wbmaj)

77 Malkin is great. And she's got more balls than 95% of conservatives. Has she occasionally said or dumb something stupid? Yeah, so what? You be in the public eye for more than a day and see how many stupid/wrong things you say. Malkin is fighting the good fight and right 90% of the times. That's good enough for me.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 26, 2013 09:42 AM (ZPrif)

78 Ummm. She built Hot Air from nothing placing conservative blogs on the map? Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 26, 2013 01:42 PM (0q2P7) You know Mr. Moose, I didn't bother cause if you have to ask that, you are either a troll or not capable of rational thought.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 26, 2013 09:43 AM (l86i3)

79

>>The truth is never funny.

 

>>Posted by: Vic

 

So...you're not actually old??

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 26, 2013 09:44 AM (SUKHu)

80 I agree that Malkin is great. She has guts, unlike Boehner and the other RINO's who voted for cloture on Hagel today

Posted by: jackj at February 26, 2013 09:44 AM (4WesI)

81 This post is very apropos given that leftists around the blogosphere are right now claiming "I just don't see why Michelle Malkin's funny dances are funny." Well, the media -- which swears it's not liberal -- doesn't understand how anything at all about Obama or liberalism could possibly be funny. They don't agree that these things have any "comedic vice" in them at all to be valid targets of joking. I will say that I didn't find FLOTUS dancing to be funny but that's mainly because every time I went to youtube without being logged into my account, that fucking video of her dancing was the top video on the home page. It's rage inducing that I can't even look at ridiculous kpop idol groups without the Obamas shoving their faces into what I'm doing.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 26, 2013 09:45 AM (VtjlW)

82 I think it was Cid Ceasar who said, "Analyzing comedy is like dissecting a frog.  Nobody really enjoys it, and it kills the frog."

Posted by: WTP at February 26, 2013 09:46 AM (+hPIb)

83 What's so great about Reagan? I heard he amnestied millions of illegals. This concerns me. I have similar concerns about Malkin. Oh and Breitbart. Who else do you, I mean we, conservatives admire? Cause I think I'm concerned about them to.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 26, 2013 09:46 AM (ZPrif)

84 @75, book is on Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/In-Defense-Internment-Racial-Profiling/product-reviews/0895260514

Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 09:46 AM (HS3dy)

85

Knock knock.

<.>

The Interupting Cow.

.. Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Posted by: The Interupting Cow at February 26, 2013 09:46 AM (i7B17)

86 >>>I agree that Malkin is great. She has guts, unlike Boehner and the other RINO's who voted for cloture on Hagel today

GN

Your sentence implies Boehner voted for cloture on the Hagle nomination. Consider revising.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 26, 2013 09:46 AM (0q2P7)

87 Moo

Posted by: The Interupting Cow at February 26, 2013 09:46 AM (i7B17)

88 I will say that I didn't find FLOTUS dancing to be funny but that's mainly because every time I went to youtube without being logged into my account, that fucking video of her dancing was the top video on the home page. It's rage inducing that I can't even look at ridiculous kpop idol groups without the Obamas shoving their faces into what I'm doing.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 26, 2013 01:45 PM (VtjlW)

 

 

Imagine Mooch photobombing a Brown Eyed Girls dance video,    like that stupid dancing baby from "Ally McBeal."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 09:47 AM (4df7R)

89 You guys do the same thing with the Michelle Obama/Fallon dance, which started out as mildly funny and quickly got boring. Malkin is not funny, she is a rabid attention seeker and makes very cheap political points. (But it's fun to freeze frame her indignant facial expressions when she appears on Hannity, although I stopped watching that after November 2012)

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 09:47 AM (yrKiI)

90 You know, widening up the barrel just means we can fit more rage monkeys in there with you.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 26, 2013 09:47 AM (NF2Bf)

91 Why don't liberal laugh at our jokes?

It's the "Fat Tony" principle; "It's funny because it's TRUE"

You have to keep in mind the "universal truths" that liberals hold to be immutable

Posted by: kbdabear at February 26, 2013 09:47 AM (mCvL4)

92 I said the other RINO's. No need to revise

Posted by: jackj at February 26, 2013 09:47 AM (4WesI)

93 Posted by: The Interupting Cow

Motherfucking barrel.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2013 09:47 AM (Ipj15)

94 You mean Team Daryl v, Team Robin Hood?

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 26, 2013 01:42 PM (Hx5uv)

 

I have some Amazon points to spend. I'm trying to decide whether to get the full auto BB gun, the Drozd, or a bitchin crossbow. Hard choice.

Posted by: Invictus at February 26, 2013 09:48 AM (OQpzc)

95

...this would crawl up the butt of hacks like Andi Sullivan

Posted by: DangerGirl - Stop this thing, I want off at February 26, 2013 01:35 PM (74tYA)

 

Hey!  That's our gig.

Posted by: Richard Gere's Gerbil Knnel at February 26, 2013 09:48 AM (xiaOm)

96 If you have to explain it, it's not funny. I'll bet it's still funny if told to a smarter audience. Say, 3rd graders instead of OWS protesters?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2013 09:48 AM (GFM2b)

97 (But it's fun to freeze frame her indignant facial expressions when she appears on Hannity, although I stopped watching that after November 2012)

Posted by: separate

Oh, you're concerned are you?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2013 09:48 AM (Ipj15)

98 Didn't she write a book saying we should round up Muslims and put them in "internment" camps? That's not what her book says. Man, can't Axelturf send us one with a brain sometime?

Posted by: Ian S. at February 26, 2013 09:48 AM (B/VB5)

99 I must say though, I don't understand why Malkin is held in such high esteem. I think she's an idiot. Didn't she write a book saying we should round up Muslims and put them in "internment" camps? She's like a female Krauthammer... we need new voices.

Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 01:39 PM (HS3dy)

 

Michelle Malkin defended the use of internment camps for Japanese-Americans during WWII because, according to her research, there were many in that community whose loyalties were questionable and thus posed a real security threat early in the war when fears of mainland invasion were reasonably well-grounded. Insofar as I know, she has never advocated rounding up and interning Muslims.

 

Malkin is also a pioneer in conservative new media, and is the founder of both Hot Air and Twitchy. She is also very telegenic and serves an excellent conservative face and voice in national media outlets. She's a solid writer, as well.

 

I think she's great, in short. If we need new voices, we need more like hers.

Posted by: troyriser at February 26, 2013 09:48 AM (vtiE6)

100

 

I like Malkin when she is doing what she does best...attacking Barky and the Dems.

She's getting good at the mockery, too.

 

But I didn't like it when she was attacking Rick Perry.

That pissed me off.

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 26, 2013 09:49 AM (eyJSG)

101 11---" I certainly know I find some people very funny until they make fun of conservatives. Then they're suddenly unfunny. No one likes being the butt ..." Posted by: Heralder at February 26, 2013 01:25 PM (+xmn4) ------------------- The reason that so many lefty comedians cease to be funny when they attack conservatives is because they are attacking a strawman. Jokes rely on at least a kernel of truth. (You can make jokes about Obama's big ears but you can't make jokes about him being short.) The leftist has a comic- book view of what a "conservative" is, not a real knowledge. His jokes will amuse those who share his distorted view but not those who are (or really know) actual conservatives. For example, a joke about "conservatives" that pokes fun at their wealth and greed or depicts them as racist will not work with me any better than a joke laughing at Obama's obesity. Jeff Fozworthy's schtick about rednecks works because he KNOWS them.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2013 09:49 AM (C8mVl)

102 Posted by: The Interupting Cow at February 26, 2013 01:46 PM

Any and all words must stay within the width of the comment box. Anyone makin' words that stretch the blog width will spend the night in The Barrel

Posted by: Carr the Threadwalker at February 26, 2013 09:49 AM (mCvL4)

103 It's all funny until someone loses an eye.

Posted by: Popeye at February 26, 2013 09:49 AM (Hx5uv)

104 Imagine Mooch photobombing a Brown Eyed Girls dance video, like that stupid dancing baby from "Ally McBeal." Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 26, 2013 01:47 PM (4df7R) Why, oh why would you make my brain do that? Why? I haven't done anything deserving of that in at least four or five minutes.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 26, 2013 09:50 AM (VtjlW)

105 This is a kind of a thing that happens on the Conservative side. You get your pundits mixed up with your politicians. Two completely different jobs. If only you were as malleable with your pundit worship as your politician crucifixions. There is over emotionalism in both of those areas. The Conservative pundit is not God--and the Conservative politician is not the Devil.

Posted by: tasker at February 26, 2013 09:50 AM (r2PLg)

106 We will never be as funny as you, Ace. You're casting your pearls before swine.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 09:50 AM (QupBk)

107 Hey thanks for breaking the blog. I didn't really want to read the comments anymore anyway. :/

Posted by: DangerGirl - Stop this thing, I want off at February 26, 2013 09:50 AM (W5/KA)

108 still watching Hannity, are you?

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 09:50 AM (yrKiI)

109 I would say this is how laws are made too. 

Posted by: no good deed at February 26, 2013 09:50 AM (mjR67)

110 I'm losing my sense of humor over politics. I need to rethink the whole deal.

Posted by: mare at February 26, 2013 09:51 AM (A98Xu)

111 Hey, who was in the barrel last? Are those pickles in there?

Posted by: The Sad Cow at February 26, 2013 09:51 AM (i7B17)

112 Take my wife. Please! Posted by: Barry Youngman Um, no. Not even with a non-descript, windowless panel van parked down by the river.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2013 09:51 AM (GFM2b)

113 I must say though, I don't understand why Malkin is held in such high esteem. I think she's an idiot. Didn't she write a book saying we should round up Muslims and put them in "internment" camps? She's like a female Krauthammer... we need new voices. Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 01:39 PM (HS3dy) _____________________ Saying Malkin=Krauthammer is just ridiculous though. You might have just outed something about yourself.

Posted by: tasker at February 26, 2013 09:51 AM (r2PLg)

114 Does this blog make me look fat?

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at February 26, 2013 09:52 AM (9+ccr)

115 Btw, I don't mind being the butt of jokes. Being a sociopath means never worrying what others think. As long as I get my way, it's all good.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 09:52 AM (QupBk)

116 O is like badly annealed glass. Or perhaps that sugar glass they use in movies.

Posted by: t-bird at February 26, 2013 09:52 AM (FcR7P)

117 have

 

 

It's also    why their jokes about us never work.   

 

"I'm    from the government and I'm here to help" is FUNNY, because it perfectly describes everyone's    shared experience with government bureaucracy.    The left    is the wing of nanny staters,   but even THEY have to go through the DMV, the IRS, the EPA...  

 

On the other hand,  "Teabaggers," while humorous in a gutter-level     way, is completely devoid from the truth.  No one    can look      at the blue-haired   grandmas with their beach chairs and pitchers of lemonade who make up a solid chunk of your average     TEA   Party rally     and think "Teabaggers" is      anything but a    reflection of the idiots who coined the term.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 09:52 AM (4df7R)

118 The reason that so many lefty comedians cease to be funny when they attack conservatives is because they are attacking a strawman.


This times a Brazillian.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2013 09:52 AM (KXm42)

119 This blog is giving my a stiffy.

Posted by: Larry Craig at February 26, 2013 09:52 AM (NF2Bf)

120 Boy MM sure can stir up the trolls.

And you wonder why we like her?

Every time she says or does anything, you give us free entertainment for hours with your exploding heads.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 26, 2013 09:53 AM (0q2P7)

121 If a comedian tells an Obama joke in the forest and nobody laughs, is it still funny?

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 26, 2013 09:53 AM (Hx5uv)

122 Michele Malkin writes about her book.

"IN DEFENSE OF INTERNMENT"

http://michellemalkin.com/2004/08/03/in-defense-of-internment-2/

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 26, 2013 09:54 AM (81UWZ)

123 A joke, like a frog, dies when dissected.

Posted by: Things Twain May or May Not Have Said at February 26, 2013 09:54 AM (RD7QR)

124 It's all funny until someone loses an eye. Then it's fucking hilarious.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2013 09:54 AM (GFM2b)

125
I never joke about how dumb Obama actually is.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 26, 2013 09:55 AM (p/cQy)

126 Then it's fucking hilarious. Well yeah, if it's someone else's eye.

Posted by: Moe Howard at February 26, 2013 09:55 AM (QupBk)

127 The reason that so many lefty comedians cease to be funny when they attack conservatives is because they are attacking a strawman. Hence the widely circulated on the left Aaron Sorkin quote that "I'm not a Republican because I don't believe high barometric pressure causes hurricanes". Which both attacks a belief nobody actually has *and* contains a science error you can drive an aircraft carrier through.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 26, 2013 09:56 AM (B/VB5)

128 I would say this is how laws are made too. Posted by: no good deed "Laughter Legislation can be modeled as a three-party game ..." Now, that's depressing- you're right.

Posted by: t-bird at February 26, 2013 09:56 AM (FcR7P)

129 Speaking of humor, I wonder if we'll get a thread    about John F'ing Kerry's colossal fuckuppedness as SoS thus far?    Because THAT would be HILARIOUS.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 09:56 AM (4df7R)

130 I guess making fun of the left is rare because WTF is funny about an increasing lawless and brazen party that has control of the government and more and more control over you? The truth inherent in any joke about that sort of kills the buzz.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 26, 2013 09:56 AM (yCvxi)

131 >>>AoSHQ: Come for the politics and pointy elbows, stay for the sociological discussions I know you're joking so I swear I'm not doing the Stone Face but I do want to say social anthropology (the preferred term in America; I think Europeans call it "sociology") is a kissing cousin of politics. There's an old saying that as soon as you have Two People, you have Society, and as soon as you have the Third person, you have Politics.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2013 09:56 AM (LCRYB)

132 Attention moderators, need to delete post 89.

Posted by: Vic at February 26, 2013 09:56 AM (53z96)

133 Which both attacks a belief nobody actually has *and* contains a science error you can drive an aircraft carrier through.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 26, 2013 01:56 PM (B/VB5) /i]

 

Yet more proof why Sorkin is a fucking idiot.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 09:57 AM (4df7R)

134 A fourth person means war.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 09:57 AM (QupBk)

135 >>>I said the other RINO's. No need to revise

[GN]

If you would have said "Boehner and the RINOs who...", that implies Boehner is not part of the second group "RINOS who..."

By saying "Boehner and the other RINO's who..." implies Boehner is part of the second group.

[/GN]

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 26, 2013 09:58 AM (0q2P7)

136

There's an old saying that as soon as you have Two People, you have Society, and as soon as you have the Third person, you have Politics

 

Yeah, and guess who's the butt.

Posted by: The Sheep with Two Wolves at February 26, 2013 09:58 AM (NF2Bf)

137 138 A fourth person means war. Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 01:57 PM (QupBk) _________ LMAO!

Posted by: tasker at February 26, 2013 09:58 AM (r2PLg)

138 A fourth person means war.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 01:57 PM (QupBk)

 

Two's company.

 

Three's a crowd.

 

Four's a war.

 

...

 

Yeah, sounds about right.

 

So what's five?   Detente?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 09:58 AM (4df7R)

139 "Speaking of humor, I wonder if we'll get a thread about John F'ing Kerry's colossal fuckuppedness as SoS thus far? " Apparently just carrying the torch he was handed. And you thought the last four years was long? The next 12 are going to be excruciating.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 26, 2013 09:58 AM (yCvxi)

140 Please consult your doctor if blog widening lasts for more than four hours

Posted by: kbdabear at February 26, 2013 09:59 AM (mCvL4)

141 I wouldn't mind talking about how we sidle up to mocking the left in 'polite company'. I bet we all have our pet digs that aren't too bad that we use to test the waters for fellow travelers. A secret handshake, as it were.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 09:59 AM (QupBk)

142 @131: Minx somehow lost the important part of that quote, let's try again: " "I'm not a Republican because I believe high barometric pressure causes hurricanes, not gay marriage".

Posted by: Ian S. at February 26, 2013 09:59 AM (B/VB5)

143 "Michelle Malkin defended the use of internment camps for Japanese-Americans during WWII because, according to her research, there were many in that community whose loyalties were questionable and thus posed a real security threat early in the war when fears of mainland invasion were reasonably well-grounded. Insofar as I know, she has never advocated rounding up and interning Muslims. " Dude, read the book. I read it. The whole point of her book is to defend what happened during WW2 and make the same parallels to the war on terror. She isn't defending GITMO, she's saying just as in WW2 Muslim-Americans have divided loyalties, should be racially profiled and watched (invoking the Patriot Act) and then a significant number of them put in internment camps for having anti-American attitudes. Read the effing book. Her conclusion is right in the damn title.

Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 09:59 AM (HS3dy)

144 This blog brought to you by the Wide Track Pontiac for 1963

Posted by: Pontiac Motor Division at February 26, 2013 10:00 AM (mCvL4)

145 Apparently just carrying the torch he was handed.


And you thought the last four years was long? The next 12 are going to be excruciating.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 26, 2013 01:58 PM (yCvxi)

 

"From Helmet Hillary to Frankenkerry: the Precipitous Decline   of   the   Position of Secretary of State."

 

Makes a nice title for a book, dontcha think?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 10:00 AM (4df7R)

146 obama kerry and hagel oh my obama kerry and hagel oh my obama jerry and hagel oh my Now who is the joke on?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2013 10:00 AM (9Bj8R)

147 When Obama comes up, I like to say something like Lord love him, he's just not that bright.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 10:01 AM (QupBk)

148 The blog is now wider than a certain somebody's ass.

Stupid Interrupting Cow...

Posted by: Kensington at February 26, 2013 10:01 AM (/AHDz)

149 No, of course I didn't read the comments first.

Posted by: Things Twain May or May Not Have Said at February 26, 2013 10:01 AM (RD7QR)

150 "The reason that so many lefty comedians cease to be funny when they attack conservatives is because they are attacking a strawman. Jokes rely on at least a kernel of truth." Definitely true. This is where Stewart starts to fall short. Sometimes he's grasping for those straws just too hard.

Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 10:01 AM (HS3dy)

151 Two's company. Three's a crowd. Four's a war. ... Yeah, sounds about right. So what's five? Detente? Inequality?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2013 10:01 AM (GFM2b)

152 it's all real funny til someone emwidens the blog

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 26, 2013 10:01 AM (8sCoq)

153

There's an old saying that as soon as you have Two People, you have Society, and as soon as you have the Third person, you have Politics.

 

And  the sad part  is, the reason you'll have politics  is because  one of those three people  will want to control the other  two.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 26, 2013 10:01 AM (+z4pE)

154 You're right, I must not be a conservative if I don't think Michelle Malkin is high-larious. hoo boy, that joke about menendez flyin in an airplane, i think it was, and GETTIN IT ON ! woo hah, slappin my knee boy!

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 10:02 AM (yrKiI)

155 Have you guys seen the BBC tv show An Idiot Abroad?  Genius.  They make fun of other cultures and weird crap abroad by claiming the guy making all the non-PC observations is... an idiot!  Genius!  It's a very non-PC take on goofy things around the world and they get away with it.  And the "idiot" is the only one making any sense.  I guess libs laugh at him and people like me laugh with him.

Posted by: Dang at February 26, 2013 10:02 AM (R18D0)

156 When Obama comes up, I like to say something like Lord love him, he's just not that bright.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 02:01 PM (QupBk)

 

I'd rephrase that myself, to, "Lord love him, because no one else does."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 10:02 AM (4df7R)

157 No stick, no Chomsky?

Posted by: Jean at February 26, 2013 10:02 AM (Is+Nb)

158 If you've ever read on how Japanese occupiers treated the Filipino civilians in the war, and that Malkin's parents were immigrants from the Philippines, you might see where she's coming from

Posted by: kbdabear at February 26, 2013 10:03 AM (mCvL4)

159 When Obama comes up, I like to say something like Lord love him, he's just not that bright. Bless his heart.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2013 10:03 AM (GFM2b)

160 Why, oh why would you make my brain do that? Why? I haven't done anything deserving of that in at least four or five minutes.


Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 26, 2013 01:50 PM (VtjlW)

 

I do apologize, My Queen.   It just popped into my head like a runaway raptor and I was powerless to stop it!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 10:03 AM (4df7R)

161 Because anyone who still thinks that Barry is all that intellectually is drinking the koolaid, and I must be cautious if they have the power to hurt me.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 10:03 AM (QupBk)

162 I was halfway watching "How I Met Your Mother" last night and I think they used the JEF as the butt of a visual joke. I'm not totally sure, because I wasn't paying full attention, but I think he was at least the object of a quick rip on people. It's unclear what the JEF was intended as, exactly. There was a picture of him as part of an assortment of weird props for an imagined pick-up scenario, which by itself is politically neutral.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 26, 2013 10:03 AM (B/VB5)

163 sad troll is sad

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 26, 2013 10:04 AM (ZPrif)

164 This is about the wit and the listener. But if the listener is the Butt, whether they laugh or not is a sign of humility.  That's why they don't laugh.

Posted by: So a guy walks into the bar and says "I'd like to be VP" at February 26, 2013 10:04 AM (AErUg)

165

 

Eh...why is it a bad thing with the blog text is a little wider?

 

Does that make it harder to read on an Iphone?

Because it doesn't bother me.

But then, I'm not using a little bitty screen.

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 26, 2013 10:04 AM (eyJSG)

166 I heard this blog was puffy

Posted by: Ashley Judd at February 26, 2013 10:04 AM (mCvL4)

167 I have a headache thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis big...

**holds out hands as wide as the comments boxes**

Posted by: Excedrin Commercial at February 26, 2013 10:04 AM (rdy8w)

168
Q:  What's the best way to get under a liberal's skin?

A :  With a knife.


ba DA da.  Tip your waitresses, and try the veal because that cute little calf died for you.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 26, 2013 10:05 AM (p/cQy)

169 Have you guys seen the BBC tv show An Idiot Abroad? Genius. They make fun of other cultures and weird crap abroad by claiming the guy making all the non-PC observations is... an idiot! Genius! It's a very non-PC take on goofy things around the world and they get away with it. And the "idiot" is the only one making any sense. I guess libs laugh at him and people like me laugh with him."
===============

Well, to be fair, Karl Pilkington really does seem to be an idiot. He says a lot of imbecilic things. It's not like Ricky Gervais is a stealth conservative.

I laugh at him even as I hold the standard conventions that Gervais and Stephen Merchant espouse in contempt.

Posted by: Kensington at February 26, 2013 10:05 AM (/AHDz)

170 Q: What's the best way to get under a liberal's skin? A : With a knife. Belt sander?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 10:06 AM (QupBk)

171 >>>You're right, I must not be a conservative

Internet warrior types can be trolls too speedy.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 26, 2013 10:07 AM (0q2P7)

172 Q: What's the best way to get under a liberal's skin? A : With a knife. Belt sander? Cheese grater.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 26, 2013 10:07 AM (l86i3)

173

Sooo, is separate an asshat, an assclown, or just an ass?


Seriously, who's telling you you HAVE to find Malkin    funny    to be a "real" conservative?   Boogeyman   much?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 10:07 AM (4df7R)

174 @ace "Sometimes people will propose just "joking about how dumb Obama is," and while I agree he is kind of dumb, I don't see that as a likely avenue for widespread transmission of the idea. Too many people would disagree that that's a valid target, and hence, wouldn't laugh. And hence, while the joke may work for a smaller audience (engaged conservative partisans) it would fail at the purpose for which it is deployed (shifting the conventional wisdom of the public).*" Well, that's the puzzle. You say that there's too much of an audience that would disagree Obama is dumb. But isn't part of the goal to change the minds of those people? I'm not saying it's easy. Changing people's minds can be hard, and comedy is damn hard. But I keep seeing (particularly in conservative circles) this attitude of 'Well, people X disagree with everyone on this subject, so we'll just have to accept that.' instead of consider ways to change people's minds about X.

Posted by: Crude at February 26, 2013 10:07 AM (eLtHg)

175 You know what really really irritates liberals......




Acid.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2013 10:07 AM (KXm42)

176 "You're right, I must not be a conservative if I don't think Michelle Malkin is high-larious. hoo boy..."
===============

I'm getting close.

Posted by: Strawman Hunter at February 26, 2013 10:07 AM (/AHDz)

177 MWR it's an inference. read the post, read the thread, try to follow. it's ok.

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 10:08 AM (yrKiI)

178 You know what really really irritates liberals......




Acid.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2013 02:07 PM (KXm42)

 

Two words:

 

Poison.   Ivy.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 10:09 AM (4df7R)

179 thank you strawman for making the point clearer for MWR. that's very kind of you.

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 10:09 AM (yrKiI)

180

>>it's all real funny til someone emwidens the blog

 

It's all funny until your eye falls out when it has to roll so far to read the last word on the line.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 26, 2013 10:09 AM (SUKHu)

181 Do we defend and forgive any of our Conservative politicians like we do our Conservative pundits?

Posted by: tasker at February 26, 2013 10:09 AM (r2PLg)

182 The wide blog gives me vertigo. It's bad enough scrolling up and down constantly but side to side is misery. Liberal political humor isn't funny. It's mostly just mean. Bill Maher saying Sarah Palin is a dumb twat isn't funny other than the adolescent knee jerk reaction to laughing at a dirty word.

Posted by: L, elle at February 26, 2013 10:09 AM (0PiQ4)

183 169 Eh...why is it a bad thing with the blog text is a little wider? Does that make it harder to read on an Iphone? Because it doesn't bother me. But then, I'm not using a little bitty screen. Yes it's virtually impossible to read on an iPhone, unless I zoom in which is a pain in the ass because then I have to scroll back and forth. I wish I could use my work computer but my company is run by a bunch of liberals in California and I'd be lying if I said I didn't fear repercussions from visiting and posting on Repub/Conserv sites.

Posted by: DangerGirl - Stop this thing, I want off at February 26, 2013 10:09 AM (yhPOh)

184 separate, I'm quite clear on what the thread is saying, what you are inferring, and how what you're inferring is completely ass backward.   Really, sweetie, try to keep up.  It's ok.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 10:10 AM (4df7R)

185 "If you've ever read on how Japanese occupiers treated the Filipino civilians in the war, and that Malkin's parents were immigrants from the Philippines, you might see where she's coming from" A valid point. I don't think this is a justification though. What happened during WW2 was wrong, and doing it now would be equally wrong. And bear in mind too, we aren't even engaged in a conflict remotely comparable with WW2. My point is she's a hypocrite and not a conservative, and not all that bright. Even suggesting such a thing is just stupid. Makes her look stupid, makes all conservatives look stupid. Romney made a number of stupid gaffs, she made one of the dumbest of all to come from a major conservative talking head and wrote a whole damn book about it. I'm just saying... don't want to turn this into a Malkin thread.

Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 10:10 AM (HS3dy)

186 ha ha what about the dance called "raise the debt ceiling"! so she raised her hands! to the ceiling! BWA HA HA

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 10:10 AM (yrKiI)

187 The Idiot Abroad is mean to make fun of the typical small town conservative -- a Little Englander. If you ever listen to the Ricky Gervais podcast that is made especially clear. Karl, the idiot, is meant to represent everything stupid, ignorant, and provincial. Gervais and Merchant ruthlessly mock him and his small-minded beliefs -- especially anything that smacks of religion or nationalism. What's funny is their reaction when he questions some leftist shibboleth. One time he said that he didn't recycle. Didn't see the point. Thought it was a waste of time. They went into full outrage mode. How dare you? You planet-killing sinner! Heretic! Heretic! The show is meant to reassure and reaffirm left-wing cosmopolitan sensibilities.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 26, 2013 10:10 AM (ZPrif)

188 I laugh at him even as I hold the standard conventions that Gervais and Stephen Merchant espouse in contempt.
Posted by: Kensington

Their radio show is just fucking awful. It's hours of Gerbil and Merchant interrupting the twit, and Gerbil continuously forcing himself to laugh. It's like walking into a dorm room at 10am to find the stoners still carrying on.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2013 10:11 AM (Ipj15)

189 MWR, for a zingy comeback try not to repeat the language contained in the original insult.

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 10:11 AM (yrKiI)

190

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2013 01:49 PM (C8mVl)

I understand what you mean.  However the whole "we're funny and truthful and they aren't" is perfectly divided among political lines.  Liberals think the same exact thing in reverse.  I'd like to think that is because we are just so right, and they can't hack it, but more than likely it is the simple fact that people just plain don't like being the butt of the joke.

Posted by: Heralder at February 26, 2013 10:11 AM (+xmn4)

191

 "Mild-mannered humor or self-deprecating humor doesn't need this sort of a negotiation."

 

What about self-defecating humor?

Posted by: Al Roker at February 26, 2013 10:11 AM (w41GQ)

192 I like penis. The feel, the taste, mmmmmm. Nom nom nom

Posted by: seperate at February 26, 2013 10:11 AM (WJIj/)

193 Do we defend and forgive any of our Conservative politicians like we do our Conservative pundits?

Posted by: tasker at February 26, 2013 02:09 PM (r2PLg)

 

Show   me one and I'll defend him/her.    I did with Allen West.  I do with Ted Cruz and    Rand Paul.   Are there others?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 10:11 AM (4df7R)

194 I do apologize, My Queen. It just popped into my head like a runaway raptor and I was powerless to stop it! Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 26, 2013 02:03 PM (4df7R) Oh I suppose I shall forgive you, just this once. Cupcake?

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 26, 2013 10:11 AM (VtjlW)

195 The Leftards sure thought that GWB was hilarious.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 26, 2013 10:12 AM (+z4pE)

196 There's also a misguided anti-racism that thwarts such a joke. Too many people would automatically think "Gee I can never say a black person is dumb, that would be racist" without pausing to consider the more sophisticated idea that that itself is racially condescending -- that such a "rule" that black folks can never be, for reasons best left unsaid, treated Just Like Everyone Else, is itself a bit racist.

Just like saying, Oh, blacks can't possibly get into college or jobs or into houses without the playing field being leveled.  That's hardly racist at all!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 26, 2013 10:12 AM (xjpRj)

197 trollin, trollin, trollin keep those keyboards trollin

Posted by: Separate but Stupid at February 26, 2013 10:12 AM (ZPrif)

198 >>>MWR it's an inference.

Paranoia?
Conflating argument into personal attacks?
Continual use of agressive and demeaning comments toward other commentors.

I think we are getting to the bottom of these symptoms. Just how long have you thought of yourself as the ONE TRUE conservative warrior?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 26, 2013 10:12 AM (0q2P7)

199 you misspelled it, it's SEPARATE. not SEPERATE. doh

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 10:12 AM (yrKiI)

200 MWR, for a zingy comeback try not to repeat the language contained in the original insult.

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 02:11 PM (yrKiI)

 

Awww, did I hurt the wubbie's feelings?   You want you're very own,   fresh and unopened jar of     Grade A Insult?

 

Why on earth would I    put forth   all that effort for a silly little prig like you?  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 10:13 AM (4df7R)

201 hey, get read, someone impersonating me is about to type something vulgar. cuz i hit a nerve i guess. this time he is going to spell it right.

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 10:13 AM (yrKiI)

202 The Leftards sure thought that GWB was hilarious. All supergenius retarded space chimps are. But we won't be telling them that.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 10:13 AM (QupBk)

203 This would be funny if it wasn't so sad: ABC broadcast edits out Michelle Obama claim that Chicago teen was killed by an ¡®automatic weapon¡¯ "She was caught in the line of fire because some kids had some automatic weapons they didn¡¯t need,¡± the First Lady explained. http://tinyurl.com/be7ntdq

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2013 10:14 AM (ipBC8)

204 197 Do we defend and forgive any of our Conservative politicians like we do our Conservative pundits? Posted by: tasker at February 26, 2013 02:09 PM (r2PLg) Show me one and I'll defend him/her. I did with Allen West. I do with Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. Are there others? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 26, 2013 02:11 PM (4df7R) _______________ I'm not sure I should use the term "Conservative"--it keeps getting more and more narrowly defined by our "Conservative" pundits.

Posted by: tasker at February 26, 2013 10:14 AM (r2PLg)

205 "Do we defend and forgive any of our Conservative politicians like we do our Conservative pundits? " Apparently you haven't gotten the memo, Boner is still our Speaker...

Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 10:14 AM (HS3dy)

206 Michelle Malkin must be proud of her internet defenders like MWR. He probably has a fat wife, so i understand.

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 10:15 AM (yrKiI)

207 you misspelled it, it's SEPARATE. not SEPERATE. doh Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 02:12 PM (yrKiI) Lets me spell it fer ya mutha fucka, COCKSUCKER, thats you. Booth #6 is M T and had a dick sticking through it, get yo faggot ass busy fo I takes off my belt you mouthy little ignernt bitch.

Posted by: Tyrone Velvet, proprietor, Tyrone's coin operated glory hole and transgendered chicken shack bar an at February 26, 2013 10:15 AM (l86i3)

208 Oh I suppose I shall forgive you, just this once. Cupcake?

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 26, 2013 02:11 PM (VtjlW)

 

No no, thank you.  I'm still trying to work off the candy binge I went on after V-day.   Darn those 50% discounts!

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 10:15 AM (4df7R)

209

187...Yes it's virtually impossible to read on an iPhone, unless I zoom in which is a pain in the ass because then I have to scroll back and forth.

 

Yeah, I'll bet it *is* a pain in the ass.

You have to spend time scrolling or zooming, that you could be reading and commenting.

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 26, 2013 10:15 AM (eyJSG)

210 Boner is still our Speaker... I'm waiting to see which is stronger, Barry's marshmellow balls or Boehner's marshmellow spine.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 10:16 AM (QupBk)

211 I did with Allen West. I do with Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. _______________ MWR--those are the only three that make you definition of Conservative. It's interesting they just got to Washington. There are things that Allen West voted for while he was in DC that had him on the not Conservative enough list a few times.

Posted by: tasker at February 26, 2013 10:16 AM (r2PLg)

212 you misspelled it, it's SEPARATE. not SEPERATE. doh Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 02:12 PM (yrKiI) You're not from around these parts, are you? Anyone ever tell you you've got a perdy mouth?

Posted by: seperate at February 26, 2013 10:16 AM (WJIj/)

213 The dickweed is nationalist, isn't he?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 10:17 AM (QupBk)

214 Michelle Malkin must be proud of her internet defenders like MWR. He probably has a fat wife, so i understand.


Hehe...

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2013 10:17 AM (GQ8sn)

215 It's been a year since little Trayvon was gunned down, but you won't hear about that at this racist website.

Posted by: jwest at February 26, 2013 10:17 AM (ZDsRL)

216 Nude Tyranny Thread

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 26, 2013 10:18 AM (QupBk)

217 []Michelle Malkin must be proud of her internet defenders like MWR. He probably has a fat wife, so i understand.

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 02:15 PM (yrKiI)

 

I enjoy that I've touched a nerve with this one,    considering my    original comment directed at     it     was in no way aggressive or even needling, just baffled at the silly "inference" it drew.    And now look at me!   I'm a Michelle Malkin Defender (tm) worthy of a "fat wife" joke!

 

Why are trolls so easily toyed with?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 10:18 AM (4df7R)

218 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 26, 2013 10:18 AM (xN73L)

219 Boy attacking someone's wife(I know, ok MWR, roll with it.)

That sounds so...TRU CONSERVATIVE!!!!!
Only a brave internet warrior like you could be SO brave.


Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 26, 2013 10:18 AM (0q2P7)

220 211 Michelle Malkin must be proud of her internet defenders like MWR. He probably has a fat wife, so i understand. Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 02:15 PM (yrKiI) ______________ MWR is a chick. And with that I am going to peel outta here. Catch you all on a thread where the formatting hasn't gone to hell.

Posted by: tasker at February 26, 2013 10:18 AM (r2PLg)

221 It's been a year since little Trayvon was gunned down, but you won't hear about that at this racist website. Posted by: jwest at February 26, 2013 02:17 PM (ZDsRL) That's cause it's to early to enjoy a drink.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 26, 2013 10:18 AM (l86i3)

222 >>>>>you misspelled it Come on, you type much? If calling out misspelling is the best you got, time to call it quits. Unless its Aces misspellings which are good for a whole riff of silly jokes.

Posted by: L, elle at February 26, 2013 10:18 AM (0PiQ4)

223 How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb?

THAT'S NOT FUNNY!

Posted by: Warden at February 26, 2013 10:19 AM (0DlnM)

224 Come on, you type much? If calling out misspelling is the best you got, time to call it quits. Unless its Aces misspellings which are good for a whole riff of silly jokes.

Posted by: L, elle at February 26, 2013 02:18 PM (0PiQ4)

 

Misspelling, double posting, and unclosed formatting tags are a staple of the HQ.   Wouldn't have it any other way.

 

And now, to the next post!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at February 26, 2013 10:19 AM (4df7R)

225 uh, he was impersonating "separate" as "seperate", genius.

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 10:19 AM (yrKiI)

226

So Christie is going to cave on Obamacare.

 

I wish you guys could see my shocked face.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 26, 2013 10:19 AM (t06LC)

227

It isn't funny because it isn't funny, Ace.  The screen says "The Wallet Grab" and she mimes taking a wallet.  The screen says "The Finger of Blame" and she points fingers.  All of this for 2-3 minutes to a moronic, unmelodic thumping beat.

 

It isn't funny because it isn't funny.  If you think it's funny, Ace, then tell me why, because, honestly, I don't see it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 26, 2013 10:21 AM (zF6Iw)

228 "I'm waiting to see which is stronger, Barry's marshmellow balls or Boehner's marshmellow spine." Well, Boehner only knows about the marshmellow balls because he has them stuffed in his mouth, that part is clear.

Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 10:21 AM (HS3dy)

229 MWR has a fat wife? Pics or it didn't happen

Posted by: seperate at February 26, 2013 10:21 AM (WJIj/)

230 "Why are trolls so easily toyed with? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 26, 2013 02:18 PM (4df7R)" Because it's hard to be creative when you're texting and sucking? Just spitballin' here. /rimshot

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 26, 2013 10:21 AM (yCvxi)

231 231uh, he was impersonating "separate" as "seperate", genius.

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 02:19 PM (yrKiI)

And as anyone who spends even a small amount of time around here knows, when you impersonate another commenter you spell their name slightly differently, otherwise it gets annoying to respond to people you think are someone else.

Posted by: Heralder at February 26, 2013 10:22 AM (+xmn4)

232 Brilliant article. This point was critical: "humor establishes hierarchy"

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 26, 2013 10:22 AM (g5wi5)

233 >>>A valid point. I don't think this is a justification though. What happened during WW2 was wrong, and doing it now would be equally wrong. And bear in mind too, we aren't even engaged in a conflict remotely comparable with WW2. My point is she's a hypocrite and not a conservative, and not all that bright. Even suggesting such a thing is just stupid. Makes her look stupid, makes all conservatives look stupid. Romney made a number of stupid gaffs, she made one of the dumbest of all to come from a major conservative talking head and wrote a whole damn book about it. I'm just saying... don't want to turn this into a Malkin thread.

As far as your points re: Malkin and internment (either for the Japanese in WWII or American Muslims today), this is dead on.  It was a stupid position, it was even stupider to write an idiotic book defending the stupid position, and yes, it (deservedly) caused significant damage her credibility as a public face of conservatism.  She's done a lot since then, but she will always be thought of in many quarters as "that silly woman who defended Japanese internment in the context of recommending analogous treatment for Muslims"...and why shouldn't she be?

But...but...Malkin is not dumb.  A smart person is perfectly capable of taking (and vociferously defending) a retardedly stupid or immoral political position...surely I don't have to cite to examples here.  What I give Malkin credit for is her internet entrepreneurship.  When Twitchy first launched I thought to myself "dear lord, what a dumb idea...it'll never last."  Now I realize I'm clicking through to it at least four or five times a week, and that their Twitter aggregation actually fills a gap and adds value. 

I don't want Michelle Malkin put forth as the face of conservatism, for the simple reason that she actively advocates for things that are morally reprehensible (and she's a bad historian, to boot).  But she's not some sort of dead-weight loss, and if conservatives are stuck deep in a hole in terms of internet infrastructure, it's people like Malkin who are taking the first steps towards digging us out of it, for which she should be saluted.

Posted by: Jeff B. at February 26, 2013 10:23 AM (/COnL)

234 Gallows humor: Man Sues Hospital After Wrong Testicle Removed During Cancer Surgery LONDON - A British man is suing a hospital after surgeons removed the wrong testicle during cancer surgery. http://tinyurl.com/bf393nr

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2013 10:23 AM (ipBC8)

235 " the House in general is pretty conservative, save the post-election immigration panic. people just hold them to an impossible standard cuz Boehner realizes he can't just tear the whole thing down from one chamber" And yet we keep spending and spending and spending. If the House were conservative we would have voted Boner out. Enough words, time to judge people by their actions, or inactions.

Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 10:24 AM (HS3dy)

236 uh no Heralder. when you're winning the thread, someone comes in with the identical moniker and tries to make you look like a psycho. and it can be rather effective when the identity is SPELLED RIGHT.

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 10:24 AM (yrKiI)

237 Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 02:12 PM (yrKiI) Within an edit function, I am doomed to be humilated.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 26, 2013 10:26 AM (g5wi5)

238 >>>tries to make you look like a psycho

I'm wondering how that could possibly be accomplished with any greater efficiency than you are already exerting.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 26, 2013 10:27 AM (0q2P7)

239 I'm not an impersonator. I just happen to share both a similar name and fondness for cock in my mouth

Posted by: seperate at February 26, 2013 10:28 AM (WJIj/)

240 just like that time. LOL

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 26, 2013 10:28 AM (g5wi5)

241 Internment?  I'm all for it!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 26, 2013 10:28 AM (+iA5G)

242 243uh no Heralder. when you're winning the thread, someone comes in with the identical moniker and tries to make you look like a psycho. and it can be rather effective when the identity is SPELLED RIGHT.

Posted by: separate at February 26, 2013 02:24 PM (yrKiI)

 

The individual hashes next to each commenter sort of take the teeth out of any real attempts of impersonation, don't you think?

Posted by: Heralder at February 26, 2013 10:28 AM (+xmn4)

243 Just the idea that you think you can "Win the thread" around here, shows me you're truly detached from reality. Winning a thread around here requires wit, to wit you'll never do it.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 26, 2013 10:31 AM (0q2P7)

244 242 If the House were conservative we would have voted Boner out.

No one else volunteered for the job. You cannot beat somebody with nobody.

Posted by: 80sBaby at February 26, 2013 10:32 AM (YjDyJ)

245 People blow off and ignore anger and indignation- even when they agree with you. It has something to do with our defense mechanisms. So the shield go up when when we sense rage. Humor cuts through defenses. Hence you will find conservatives laughing at Jon Stewart when he is mocking them. They laugh while he castrates their very being. Now that ability is political power. When did they grab this route to isolating their enemies? SNL?

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 26, 2013 10:33 AM (g5wi5)

246 How would you describe the hook that makes a joke potentially funny? I touched on this in the other thread. But it's not simply whether the butt is a categorically appropriate butt, there's something more. There has to be some fit between the joke and its target, a context that makes it potentially funny. Here, it is the mocking of Her silly dancing (part of a pattern of unserious behavior) combined/contrasted with commentary on policy choices. I'm not LOLing, but I see the humor.

Still, I don't think liberals are being intentionally dense in this case based on a categorical rejection of mockery of Her Eminence, though that is a preexisting impediment: Romney had great biting lines at the Alfred Smith dinner and many liberals got sulky, for example. I think liberals don't even see what the hook is to be offended or protective in this case. They find Michelle's dancing to be simply fun and endearing.

Without seeing the hook there, some context for why her dancing would be a basis of humor, they can't even get offended. I think there is a difference between not getting a joke and getting offended based on the target. For instance, hobbling around while throwing candy into the air in an attempt to portray Mother Theresa, perhaps as a commentary on religious charity would be offensive to many based on who the butt of the joke is. They also may not get the joke, but that takes a back seat to the first objection.

In this case, liberals don't see what the hook is. And once you have to explain it...you just seem kind of belligerent, in that the problems conservatives have  may seem to go beyond policy and into something more personal.

Having a favorable impression of someone and thus not getting a joke versus rejecting any jokes of a favored person can be two sides of the same coin, but at least here, I think liberals just really don't get they why (not the who) of the joke.

Posted by: Crispian at February 26, 2013 10:38 AM (SJjk9)

247 "But she's not some sort of dead-weight loss, and if conservatives are stuck deep in a hole in terms of internet infrastructure, it's people like Malkin who are taking the first steps towards digging us out of it, for which she should be saluted." I can agree with you here. I just wish she'd do more entrepreneuring and less opining. My point is people listen to her more than they should. Visit twitchy, stop inviting her to talkshows. On a separate subject from her altogether, overall I'm rather tired and disappointed with most of the talking heads. I still listen to Rush and Beck (only when driving), but can't stomach Hannity at all. He's so repetitive and intractable in the way he sees things. Always the same guests saying always the same things... listening to them depresses me. I've found a lot of local talking heads here in TX that I much prefer.

Posted by: Andrew at February 26, 2013 10:39 AM (HS3dy)

248 Does this have something to do with that whole thing about calling nine year old girls "c***s"? I'm asking because you're back to analyzing humor the very next day after the whole silly sub-kerfuffle.

Posted by: Mike James at February 26, 2013 10:40 AM (cgDgK)

249 194 ---" However the whole "we're funny and truthful and they aren't" is perfectly divided among political lines. Liberals think the same exact thing in reverse. I'd like to think that is because we are just so right, and they can't hack it, but more than likely it is the simple fact that people just plain don't like being the butt of the joke." Posted by: Heralder at February 26, 2013 02:11 PM (+xmn4) ------------ I didn't say "we're funny and truthful and they aren't," nor that "we are just so right." I AM saying that many liberals, especially those in show-biz, have a strawman view of conservatives. A conservative, especially one in show-biz, knows liberals, REAL liberals, all too well. When you say it's just a matter of people not wanting to be the butt of the joke, I firmly disagree. Who pays good money to listen to Jeff Foxworthy? Plenty of rednecks do. I love humor that makes fun of women's foibles, even if, perhaps especially if, it hits home. But it must ring true to experience.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2013 10:43 AM (C8mVl)

250 >>>On a separate subject from her altogether, overall I'm rather tired and disappointed with most of the talking heads. I still listen to Rush and Beck (only when driving), but can't stomach Hannity at all. He's so repetitive and intractable in the way he sees things. Always the same guests saying always the same things... listening to them depresses me. I've found a lot of local talking heads here in TX that I much prefer.

I turned off all political talk radio the day after the election, and I haven't switched back once since then.  It's either sports-talk or CDs for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: Jeff B. at February 26, 2013 10:43 AM (/COnL)

251 I think this "using humor to isolate and dis-empower" mechanism is related to entertainment as a whole. We relax during entertainment, and let all those images slide into the brain sans defense mechanism. Often this process occurs without pausing to review how they might shape our perceptions. This includes listening to music. Every ad executive in the world understands this process. Ironic idea: Is our present situation the result of a marketing plan devised during the 50s?

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 26, 2013 10:44 AM (g5wi5)

252 I've not spotted any future conservative "Jon Stewarts" on the horizen within the personalities that speak on cable news, podcasts etc. The best examples of that level of "cool wit" are found within printed satire on blogs. (such as this one) An idea thrown out: Planning to reverse the status quo could include recruiting those individuals, beginning the process of training them in public speaking and televised comedy. It would be wise to not throw them out into public view immediately without extensive training and practice. Even high school students competing in broadcasting and comedy competitions at the state level did not get to that level without in-depth preparation and months of regional competions before going for a state title-- and that exposure is for 17 year olds. We take our budding talents and throw them to the wolves without nurturing their novice abilities into the masters. THAT process has been nailed down by liberals for decades guys. They don't just pop out onto the stage as stars. Someone mentored them first.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 26, 2013 10:55 AM (g5wi5)

253 I've not spotted any future conservative "Jon Stewarts" on the horizen within the personalities that speak on cable news, podcasts etc. The best examples of that level of "cool wit" are found within printed satire on blogs. (such as this one) An idea thrown out: Planning to reverse the status quo could include recruiting those individuals, beginning the process of training them in public speaking and televised comedy. It would be wise to not throw them out into public view immediately without extensive training and practice. Even high school students competing in broadcasting and comedy competitions at the state level did not get to that level without in-depth preparation and months of regional competions before going for a state title-- and that exposure is for 17 year olds. We take our budding talents and throw them to the wolves without nurturing their novice abilities into the masters. THAT process has been nailed down by liberals for decades guys. They don't just pop out onto the stage as stars. Someone mentored them first.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 26, 2013 10:55 AM (g5wi5)

254 I've not spotted any future conservative "Jon Stewarts" on the horizen within the personalities that speak on cable news, podcasts etc. The best examples of that level of "cool wit" are found within printed satire on blogs. (such as this one) An idea thrown out: Planning to reverse the status quo could include recruiting those individuals, beginning the process of training them in public speaking and televised comedy. It would be wise to not throw them out into public view immediately without extensive training and practice. Even high school students competing in broadcasting and comedy competitions at the state level did not get to that level without in-depth preparation and months of regional competions before going for a state title-- and that exposure is for 17 year olds. We take our budding talents and throw them to the wolves without nurturing their novice abilities into the masters. THAT process has been nailed down by liberals for decades guys. They don't just pop out onto the stage as stars. Someone mentored them first.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 26, 2013 10:55 AM (g5wi5)

255 I didn't think this post was funny at all.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 26, 2013 11:03 AM (w+Dvf)

256 "257 >>>On a separate subject from her altogether, overall I'm rather tired and disappointed with most of the talking heads. I still listen to Rush and Beck (only when driving), but can't stomach Hannity at all. He's so repetitive and intractable in the way he sees things. Always the same guests saying always the same things... listening to them depresses me. " I can't listen to Hannity. He bores me due to the repetition, the inability to be witty or even laugh at himsel. His greatest flaw is the interruption of guests whose opinion I wished to hear. He will never enlarge his audience due to that engrained flaw. He has a solid following but will never appeal to the under 30 group in any significant numbers. Even the conservative and libertarian students are turned off. Conservative and libertarian media (and what little is found in entertainment) had better start planning, recruiting and training for the future. The talent is out there but they need mentors and sponsors.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 26, 2013 11:19 AM (g5wi5)

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