February 18, 2013
— Monty
His Majesty the King can generate all kinds of euphemisms about how and why we're running up our nation's debt: "investing in the future", "borrowing from ourselves", "betting on the American worker". What we're really doing is stealing from our children and generations yet unborn. It might be different if we were actually building a better world for them to live in, but we're not: we're squandering the money like a drunken sailor on a three-day liberty. We've pissed all our own money away, and now we're pissing theirs away too, and on trifles. Vacations, new cars, fancy dinners, retirement living that we didn't save enough money for. It's child abuse of the rankest and worst sort. We're selling our own children and grand-children into debtor's prison. They're going to hate us for it, and they have a right to.
We're spending our children's money without giving them any say or vote in the process. We are promising their future labor, their future wealth, their future lives, to back up our own foolish debts. We are making their future lives meaner and smaller and more constrained because we could not govern ourselves properly. It makes me angry. It makes me furious. It makes me want to apologize to everyone under the age of twenty or so for what we are doing to them. We would do well to think about this: the young people will not simply obligingly labor forever as beasts of burden, content to pay the debts run up by their foolish elders. Sooner or later they'll grow wise, and tell the greybeards to go pound sand. There'll be a reckoning, and the geezers aren't going to like it one bit.
"Fiscal trouble ahead for most future retirees", frets the Washington Post. "Fiscal trouble ahead", indeed. That's like referring to pneumonic plague as a little tickle in the throat. Here's some grim numbers for you:
The consequence is that the nation is facing a huge retirement savings deficit — as much as $6.6 trillion, or about $57,000 per household, according to a U.S. Senate report.Using data on household finances collected by the Federal Reserve, the Center for Retirement Research estimates that 53 percent of American workers 30 and older are on a path that will leave them unprepared for retirement. That marks a sharp deterioration since 2001, when 38 percent of Americans were at risk of declining living standards in old age. In 1989, 30 percent faced that risk.
My own feeling is that the whole concept of "retirement" is simply untenable and will either fade away or collapse abruptly (depending on what happens in the larger economy). It's a nice idea to take twenty or thirty years off at the tail-end of your life to travel and enjoy yourself, but it turns out that this really isn't sustainable when you have more retirees than workers. If you can save enough money during your working life to take it easy, then go ahead. Otherwise you'll have to keep doing what every other human being has had to do throughout human history. You'll have to get up every morning and go to work.
I wish I could budget the same way the government does. Step 1: I'll declare that I plan to spend a million dollars on a new summer home next year. Step 2: I'll check my bank account and realize that my large debt and two hundred dollar checking account won't support that kind of expenditure. Step 3: I'll declare the million-dollar-house project defunct. Step 4: I just saved a million dollars off of next year's budget! I'm an economics genius!
There's an old saying: success has a thousand fathers, but failure is always an orphan. (There's another one, more particular to this situation: Rats always desert a sinking ship.)
Democrats love to raise taxes...until the higher taxes apply to them, and then all of a sudden it's an outrage or something. (Remember: no one bothered to define who was "rich" and who wasn't, and that was deliberate. If you want higher taxes on "the rich", you can just keep defining down what "rich" means.)
European GDP takes a swan-dive into the potty. As someone or other said, the Eurozone situation is beginning to look like they sacrificed the patient to save the tumor.
The "red state vs blue state" metaphor never sat well with me. I've always thought it was really more "rural America versus urban America", and this piece provides some evidence for that claim. The liberalization of America has corresponded more or less exactly with the urbanization of America.
His Majesty the King is peddling a dangerous fantasy about the debt crisis. And yet...many of His Majesty's loyal subjects prefer sweet lies to harsh truth, which is why His Majesty is still sitting on the throne.
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Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:14 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 04:14 AM (XkWWK)
we're squandering the money like a drunken sailor on a three-day liberty.
Come on now. That's kind of unfair to drunken sailors. At least they earned their money.
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 18, 2013 04:15 AM (NF2Bf)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamlessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 18, 2013 04:15 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Tomas de Torquemada O.P. at February 18, 2013 04:15 AM (1V3hm)
And Wilson and FDR did it to us before him.
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:15 AM (53z96)
Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 04:16 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 04:16 AM (XkWWK)
Piss on their report. I am more concerned with what the Senate is doing NOW. I am on a fixed income and their inflation is killing me.
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:17 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamlessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 18, 2013 04:17 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Jaimo at February 18, 2013 04:19 AM (9U1OG)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 18, 2013 04:19 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamlessly hawking his book Amy
Lynn available on amazon. at February 18, 2013 08:17 AM (l86i3)
I retired 6 years ago; pre-Obama.
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:20 AM (53z96)
So what we're seeing, especially in Europe and England but even over here, is the de-Weberization of Western Civilization. No one wants to work anymore, they just want to sit around on their ass and get their free money from the guvmint, who just needs to tax those damned "rich Republicans" more.
Yeah, lots of Doom! in that book....
Posted by: Pave Low John at February 18, 2013 04:20 AM (ilDAt)
Posted by: Jaimo at February 18, 2013 04:20 AM (9U1OG)
Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2013 04:21 AM (G8OwX)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamlessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 18, 2013 04:21 AM (l86i3)
Good Morning Morons. Today is Monday, February 18, 2013. (BS President's Day) On this day in 1885 The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was first published. And if Disney had its way you would not be able to get it for free from Gutenberg now. Thanks to Disney US Copyright law is the strictest in the world. 75 years after the death of the holder. Disney died in 1966 so Mickey will remain copyrighted until 2041. If we still have a US then they will probably change the law to 150 years after death.
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:24 AM (53z96)
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Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:24 AM (53z96)
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Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:24 AM (53z96)
Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 18, 2013 04:25 AM (VtjlW)
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Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:25 AM (53z96)
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Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:25 AM (53z96)
PALM CITY, Florida (Reuters) - President Barack Obama saw firsthand how golf is played at the highest level on Sunday, teeing off with Tiger Woods, the world's No. 2 golfer who is rebuilding a once-squeaky clean image tarnished by a messy 2010 divorce.
Obama, an avid weekend golfer, and Woods, who won his 75th title last month, played together for the first time at the exclusive Floridian Yacht and Golf Club, which was surrounded by a cordon of security.
His Majesty won't rest until everyone who wants a job gets a job. And he is a part of the 99%
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 18, 2013 04:26 AM (1Jaio)
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Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:26 AM (53z96)
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Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:27 AM (53z96)
Posted by: alexthechick
It's okay, we're doing it FOR the children.
Posted by: Bruce at February 18, 2013 04:27 AM (kWnMH)
Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2013 04:27 AM (OevbG)
http://is.gd/EreRdV
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:28 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 04:28 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 18, 2013 04:28 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 75% more Assault & at February 18, 2013 04:28 AM (FsUAO)
http://is.gd/WHABE5
And thatÂ’s it for a cold damn Monday here. Noty much out there today which is normal.
Thanks Monty
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:28 AM (53z96)
Europe has always been their stronghold. Americans are generally accepting that I've never had an FB account, but Europeans are reliably incredulous.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2013 04:29 AM (OevbG)
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:29 AM (53z96)
NOW everyone knows he's a complete moron and an anti-Semite, which is not good for national security.
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 18, 2013 04:30 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 04:30 AM (XkWWK)
http://is.gd/NehX9V
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:27 AM (53z96)
I hope so. I'd like to see that Obama loving little douche crash and burn
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 18, 2013 04:31 AM (1Jaio)
You sissyfied urbanites are gonna suffer though.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 18, 2013 04:31 AM (Nyb+H)
The champion terrier at Westminster last week had that same type of marking on the face.
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 18, 2013 04:31 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: IntheBellyoftheBeast at February 18, 2013 04:31 AM (A5iH4)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 04:32 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 18, 2013 04:33 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 04:33 AM (XkWWK)
On the upside, as I was driving into the family business, that my family didn't build, at 0 dark 30 this morning, one of our local sports talk radio guys went FUCKING OFF on Obama about his weekend golfing excursion.
*waves*
Your Terrible and Beautiful Majesty
Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 18, 2013 04:33 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:30 AM (XkWWK)
Was that their names? It has been so long since I saw that I can't remember those details.
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:34 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:32 AM (53z96)
Weird....I get a 404 - file not found.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at February 18, 2013 04:34 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 04:35 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at February 18, 2013 04:35 AM (71LDo)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 04:35 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:36 AM (53z96)
That would be a mountain of suck. LinkedIn got me my current job which I love, and several friends and family members have had similar experiences with it.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2013 04:37 AM (OevbG)
"It makes me want to apologize to everyone under the age of twenty or so for what we are doing to them"
Knock yourself out, but two facts remain; 1) they voted for the Won, and 2) your rants @ the older set are stupid, silly, and unwarranted. If you wish to bi*** about unfunded future liabilities, then your beef is w/those currently "middle aged". Kinda makes the rest of your posts hard to take seriously...
Posted by: Jess1 at February 18, 2013 04:37 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 18, 2013 04:38 AM (QXlbZ)
Anyway, I use LinkedIn but now I hear that FB is planning on buying it (if they haven't already) so that will suck mightily if they do.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:32 AM (XkWWK)
I hadn't heard about FB buying Linkedin. Linkedin sounds wildly successful, I'm not sure why they'd sell to that creep
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 18, 2013 04:38 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Jess1 at February 18, 2013 08:37 AM (lbiWb)
This is teachable moment. This, Morons and Ettes, is what we call "a very large mistake" or "poking the bear."
Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 18, 2013 04:38 AM (da5Wo)
Tried doing the actual address instead of the shortened url and Pixy will not take it.
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:40 AM (53z96)
Posted by: IntheBellyoftheBeast at February 18, 2013 04:40 AM (A5iH4)
Posted by: runningrn at February 18, 2013 04:41 AM (Ag5D2)
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 04:41 AM (53z96)
Is that a real cat? That would be Comissioner Bele.
Posted by: perdogg at February 18, 2013 04:41 AM (oSdsj)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 18, 2013 04:42 AM (VLifP)
Posted by: Tex's Assaultin' Batteries at February 18, 2013 04:43 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 04:44 AM (MMC8r)
But post this at your bank as a $250,000 savings!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 18, 2013 04:44 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Muad'dib - Bringer of Cookies at February 18, 2013 04:44 AM (KjlbF)
Posted by: IntheBellyoftheBeast at February 18, 2013 04:45 AM (A5iH4)
Posted by: runningrn at February 18, 2013 04:45 AM (Ag5D2)
Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2013 04:45 AM (G8OwX)
Posted by: Fritz at February 18, 2013 04:46 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 04:47 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: bitchka at February 18, 2013 04:49 AM (X0lLi)
Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2013 04:49 AM (YWVdm)
Posted by: IntheBellyoftheBeast at February 18, 2013 04:50 AM (A5iH4)
Obamacare's IPAB will do that for you.
Remember that the only procedure automatically approved for full coverage under Obamacare is a DNR. In fact, you may be approved for it even though you didn't request it!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 18, 2013 04:50 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: teej at February 18, 2013 04:51 AM (9aeie)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 18, 2013 04:51 AM (QXlbZ)
When I read that WaPo article I just chuckled throughout the whole thing. It's an obvious attempt to further the progressive narrative that "something must be done" about the "unfairness" of the wealthy having an advantage over the rest of us. Go read it, except read it in the context of all the stories we've heard in the last couple of years about the federal government nationalizing pension plans and 401K's. That's the gist of the article. It's not fair that all these high income workers got all those huge tax breaks for all those years to save for retirement when lower income workers didn't get such high tax breaks to save. And the poorer people had to dip into their 401K's to survive those awful Bush years. Notice the guy who lost his job lost it in 2002? Yup. It's Bush's fault.
It's bullshit. The article doesn't say what telecommunication firm he worked for but I worked for Verizon and they had a huge buyout program that was so attractive people were falling all over themselves to get it. Both union and management were leaving in droves. So chances are that this guy volunteered to leave.
I left in 2008 and I took my pension in a lump sum to get it in my name. I strongly urge anyone out there who has a public pension or a 401K administered by a large corporation and who is eligible to retire now to do so. Only if you have the option to take it in a lump sum. Get it out, get it in your name, and put it something backed up by precious metals or something safe. Do it before the 2014 elections.
Posted by: Jaynie59 at February 18, 2013 04:52 AM (4zKCA)
Posted by: runningrn at February 18, 2013 04:53 AM (Ag5D2)
Earnings to debt and taxes ratio is way to low.
My only chance is that one of the kids hits it big. While this is wishful thinking, I am really hoping they just get by w/o sucking on the gov teet.
Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2013 04:53 AM (YWVdm)
Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 04:53 AM (MMC8r)
Doesn't seem very fair, does it?
As one who lived through the last generational war back in the late 60's, I would remind you that enmity between the generations is a tactic of the left. It divides the country, divides families, and makes younger people ignore those very people who remember how things used to be.
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 18, 2013 04:53 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 18, 2013 04:54 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 04:55 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2013 04:55 AM (G8OwX)
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This would make then aliterate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliteracy
Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2013 04:56 AM (YWVdm)
Posted by: BignJames at February 18, 2013 04:56 AM (Sg0G/)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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O'Bama stepped onto the Golf Course this morning , Saw his shadow and now we'll have 4 more years of a bad economy....
Posted by: American Dawg at February 18, 2013 04:57 AM (trA4n)
Posted by: teej at February 18, 2013 04:57 AM (Vzh0K)
Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2013 04:57 AM (YWVdm)
Yep. And the Left did a bang up job of it when they were young, just as they are doing a bang up job of it now that they're older.
Posted by: Fritz at February 18, 2013 04:58 AM (UzPAd)
That reminds me of something you might recognize.
The Matrix wasn't about computers. It was about the State.
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Morpheus: Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Neo: The Matrix.
Morpheus: Do you want to know what it is?
Neo: Yes.
Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage.
Posted by: Phinn at February 18, 2013 04:58 AM (oFH2D)
The problem a lot of older Americans have with finger-pointing like Monty as well as myself and others indulge in is that they feel they didn't have much to do with spending their children's money. They didn't vote for it, they didn't ask for it. They just took it.
I think it's a decent case they're making. There isn't and won't be a list of those of us who contributed far more than we'll take out. No dispensation for those of us screaming how wrong this is.
Most of all, there won't be any accountability for those who plugged their ears and insisted it was their money coming back to them and by God, they want what they'd been promised.
Posted by: spongeworthy at February 18, 2013 04:59 AM (r5w1L)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 18, 2013 04:59 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 04:59 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:59 AM (XkWWK)
And you know who THAT cat was!
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 05:01 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 05:01 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 18, 2013 05:01 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 05:01 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Jean at February 18, 2013 05:02 AM (uRbX6)
I know we all hate those icky social conservatives with their off-putting morality and shit, but we aborted a lot of would-be taxpayers between 1972 and 1991.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 18, 2013 05:03 AM (/kI1Q)
Yes, retirement savings don't go very far when you get <0.6% on a "safe" savings account and probably > 5% inflation (although they way that they have cooked the books, real inflation is much higher).
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 18, 2013 05:04 AM (Cnqmv)
Her name is Victoria Vetri. I just looked her up on IMDB and had to put my eyeballs back into their sockets. There's a pic of her in a bikini that looks like the one Ursala Andress wore in Dr. No.
Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 05:04 AM (GQ8sn)
The true first world problem.
'They' say is is a result of our iconic culture. Imagery displaces words and critical thinking skills.
Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2013 05:05 AM (YWVdm)
Posted by: whobewut at February 18, 2013 05:06 AM (W5c4e)
Posted by: mugiwara at February 18, 2013 05:07 AM (hpYnL)
Lemme guess....Charlotte?
Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 05:07 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 05:07 AM (53z96)
That's going on a sampler.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 18, 2013 05:08 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 05:08 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Jean at February 18, 2013 09:02 AM (uRbX6)
The press has become more sycophantic than Pravda was in the good old days, thank goodness for PROGRESS!
Posted by: Pravda Ombudsman at February 18, 2013 05:08 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: La Troienne at February 18, 2013 05:08 AM (uSZ1t)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 05:09 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 05:09 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: whobewut at February 18, 2013 05:10 AM (W5c4e)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 05:12 AM (XkWWK)
Victoria Vetri:
http://tinyurl.com/bc6mgxo
http://tinyurl.com/9wbdydc
http://tinyurl.com/a5nyx5f NSFW
http://tinyurl.com/ahulroq NSFW
Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 18, 2013 05:13 AM (da5Wo)
Well, that leaves Raleigh as a "large" city by NC standards. Everything else is a town. And yeah, Charlotte is an urban shithole.
Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 05:14 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Barackus Retardius at February 18, 2013 05:14 AM (NF2Bf)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 05:15 AM (XkWWK)
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Heh. That's the first thing I thought of when I saw it. And coincidentally, I just watched it yesterday (have the dvd set). Batman's Frank Gorshin and his half very-obvious shoe polished face.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 18, 2013 05:15 AM (ATdet)
There are plenty of people i that group who can quote you all the stats on players in the NBA, or name all of the relationships in the sinister Kardashian web of evil. They have learned the words to all of the latest hip hop hits, know where to go to get the latest and best shoes, who has the best price on drugs, where you can get the most money for your EBT card.
These people are not stupid. They are choosing to NOT be interested in politics or economics. And why is that?
Because the media presents the GOP as "old white guys who don't want you to have fun" while the dems are portrayed as the cool people. (You never see Waxman on TV, do you?)
To the LIV, they figure politics is boring and they have been given the code to ignore it. "Vote dem so those boring people won't tell us how to live." Then they go back to the Karsashians.
Why do you guys think McCain is on TV so much? Yes, part of it is his propensity to stab the GOP in the back. But just as much he is there because he is OLD. This sends the message to the young and since the agitprop is already inciting generational division, he is looked at, dismissed, and the yung sink deeper into the pit.
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 18, 2013 05:16 AM (GoIUi)
"Otherwise you'll have to keep doing what every other human being has had to do throughout human history. You'll have to get up every morning and go to work."
Hahahahahahahahahahahah!
Posted by: Free Shit Army at February 18, 2013 05:16 AM (UrENZ)
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at February 18, 2013 05:16 AM (Tmdyt)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at February 18, 2013 05:16 AM (r2PLg)
Victoria Vetri:
I would have hit that, but I wasn't born yet, which would cause a massive time paradox.
Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 05:17 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: teej at February 18, 2013 05:18 AM (FVNuD)
Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 05:18 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: SFGoth at February 18, 2013 05:19 AM (E7Dhv)
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 05:19 AM (53z96)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2013 05:20 AM (d0Dmj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 18, 2013 05:21 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at February 18, 2013 05:23 AM (a5ljo)
This is why when I visit the bank I go in full make-up with hair done, wearing my best clothing and speaking in a firm voice, standing up straight.
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 18, 2013 05:23 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 05:23 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 18, 2013 08:25 AM (VtjlW)
I blame Rawls. Normally I blame the failure to properly take into account Rawl's difference principle (which I think allows for far more wealth difference than modern liberals give it credit.) But the whole "borrow for the present" thing is totally Rawl's fault.
Premise 1) You can't escape Rawl's he's what all liberals (and many others) think about when they think Justice. It's just that pervasive.
Premise 2) the fucker seriously excluded having people from different generations behind the "veil of ignorance." (More specifically everyone behind the veil had to be contemporaneous, which I suppose allows for multiple generations, but only really 2, not enough to account for the future.)
In doing so Rawl's justice is greedy, it takes from the future to solve perceived problems now. It wasn't entirely unexpected, I mean Rawl's new that people were petty and greedy, so I don't really understand why he constructed this thusly.
Posted by: tsrblke at February 18, 2013 05:23 AM (GaqMa)
Sad to say, the good links do not seem to work?
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 18, 2013 05:24 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 18, 2013 05:24 AM (J6kXj)
Might be awhile for actual samplers, since I don't have a patron to keep me warm and fed while I make art.
Inkjet-printed things, OTOH, I did some work over the weekend.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 18, 2013 05:24 AM (/kI1Q)
A powerful cosmic force is turning Earth women into queen bees who kill men by wearing them out sexually.
LOL! I think it's time for a re-boot!
Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 05:25 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 05:25 AM (XkWWK)
A powerful cosmic force is turning Earth women into queen bees who kill men by wearing them out sexually.
LOL! I think it's time for a re-boot!
Reporting for duty sir!
Posted by: Helen Thomas at February 18, 2013 05:26 AM (NF2Bf)
LOL! I think it's time for a re-boot!
Reporting for duty sir!
Posted by: Helen Thomas
*dies*
Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 05:27 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at February 18, 2013 05:28 AM (Tmdyt)
I expect to get better average attention as an old woman than I got as an ugly young woman. Less attention = less ridicule. It's already happening in middle age.
Well, that's what I expected ten years ago, anyway. Now I expect to be death-paneled or death-camped before I get old.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 18, 2013 05:28 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 05:29 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: teej at February 18, 2013 05:29 AM (8nDPF)
Well, that's what I expected ten years ago, anyway. Now I expect to be death-paneled or death-camped before I get old.
My 14yo is talking about wanting to be a surgeon. I'm really hoping that happens, because I really don't want to be euthanized by some faceless bureaucrat.
I want to be death-panelled by family!
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 18, 2013 05:30 AM (NF2Bf)
This looks like a job for "SUPERDOME PUSSY!" Starring Sandra Fluke.
Two men enter, no man leaves!
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 18, 2013 05:31 AM (NF2Bf)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 05:31 AM (XkWWK)
Talk about an absurd statement. Hell a large percentage of the GOP (politicians and voters) are liberals now. How you can pretend we aren't a liberal nation is beyond me.
Posted by: lowandslow at February 18, 2013 05:32 AM (7Nq2G)
I want to be death-panelled by family!
I told my dad, I'd put him in the best home I could afford!
Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 05:32 AM (GQ8sn)
Oh PLEASE. Hagel is bar-none, the worst nominee for Sec Def in at least a quarter century. If he is so apparently bad in confirmation, who in their right mind would think he is going to be any better as Dec Def ? They might as well just nominate Clint Eastwood's "empty chair," who would probably be more effective.
This round of Obama nominations has lowered the bar so low that any "empty suit" is now qualified for virtually any cabinet post.
The irony of ironies is having John Kerry, a known violator of the Logan Act (18 U.S.C.A. § 953 [1948]) during the VietNam war, as the point person for determining who may violate the Logan Act in the future.
Posted by: Donald Rumsfeld at February 18, 2013 05:33 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: teej at February 18, 2013 05:34 AM (zSyar)
Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 18, 2013 05:35 AM (VtjlW)
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Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2013 05:38 AM (G8OwX)
Posted by: t-bird at February 18, 2013 05:39 AM (FcR7P)
Two men enter, no man leaves!
Until we find my car keys. Then we'll DRIVE out!
Posted by: rickb223 - May God bless Texas at February 18, 2013 05:42 AM (d0Dmj)
Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2013 05:45 AM (G8OwX)
Posted by: a mindful webworker at February 18, 2013 05:45 AM (Ynbgq)
Pretty cool video that explains how different people view time and how that effects everything else.
wimp.com/secretpowers/
Posted by: Darth Randall at February 18, 2013 05:52 AM (mV8sg)
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We are promising their future labor, their future wealth, their future lives, to back up our own foolish debts. We are making their future lives meaner and smaller and more constrained because we could not govern ourselves properly. It makes me angry. It makes me furious. It makes me want to apologize to everyone under the age of twenty or so for what we are doing to them.
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My wife and I have a number of liberal friends. However, it was just back in November that I really noticed the vast majority of them are either unmarried or married with no children. And yes, they are serious Obama boosters.
So Monty's statement kind of put into words my bitterness with these people. They are voting to enslave *my* kids and yet they have no skin in the game...no link to the future. No, they get their goodies paid for by the "breeders" upon whom they condescend every minute of every GD day. And now, enough is enough. Just yesterday my wife had two of these "friends" came over for some reason, and while they talked I could only think about how these people are selling my kids into debt bondage. Made me sick. Couldn't even talk to them.
So yeah, while I'm trying to remain cheerful it's clear that I'm going to have to jettison a lot of baggage out of my life. At least it will make Christmas time much simpler.
Posted by: @JohnTant at February 18, 2013 05:56 AM (tVWQB)
Posted by: Hildabeast Clinton at February 18, 2013 05:59 AM (GQ72I)
Posted by: a mindful webworker at February 18, 2013 06:14 AM (rf20m)
lol
Ok, that's a good one!
1. eyes
2. glasses
3. pubic education
4. bad attitude
5. all of the above.
What do you want from me? Perfection?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 18, 2013 06:23 AM (L8W+m)
Posted by: Sinalco at February 18, 2013 06:24 AM (0MVzQ)
Step 2: I'll check my bank account and realize that my large debt and two hundred dollar checking account won't support that kind of expenditure.
Step 3: I'll declare the million-dollar-house project defunct. Step 4: I just saved a million dollars off of next year's budget! I'm an economics genius!
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Step 5: But since I just saved a million dollars, I really ought to spend invest it in the future!
Posted by: David at February 18, 2013 06:26 AM (qyjnV)
Kin I git me some math skilz here?
Even if the thing was 100% iron, which is very unlikely, its density would have been ten times less than what is "reported" here.
Posted by: Zombie Isaac Newton at February 18, 2013 06:45 AM (o6qwg)
"Many seniors go into retirement either with no plan at all"
And "many =/= "most", or "all". Your continued focus on this does render the rest unreadable. I note too that the youngest set of voters participated at the highest rate (%) since the 80s, and that vote went to those willing to spend the future.
With that fact, no, I don't hold much hope to the younger set, and I fully blame them for their own bleak future.
If that, to you monty, means that I'm "ignoring" fiscal reality, then we haven't a dictionary in common, as I know that I'm pointing out what has actually happened...
Posted by: Jess1 at February 18, 2013 06:49 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: Navybrat at February 18, 2013 07:05 AM (4r+1g)
Yup, it's a damn good thing they're all being brainwashed into liking being screwed in the ass.
Without lubricant.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 18, 2013 07:16 AM (Qxdfp)
Very simple formula.... when the Interest rate on saving, is lower than the REAL Rate of Inflation and devaluation of the dollar... saving money is a net NEGATIVE.
The Fed Reserve basicaly sets interest rates...
If inflation were measured as it was in the 70's, inflation is above 8%...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2013 07:25 AM (lZBBB)
They should be called the Greediest Generation or the Most Gullible Generation.
It's them that approved and benefited the most from the socialist policies of Roosevelt. Appropriately enough, the first beneficiary of SS got thousands more than she ever contributed.
Not enough from the Greatest Generation complained about the imbalance then or later.
Then in the '60's, we got Johnson and the War on Poverty. Who also added Medicaid and Medicare to our lexicon.
Once again voted in by the Greatest Generation. (only some baby boomers were old enough to vote then so don't lay that at their feet). And who proceeded to quickly vote out any Sen or Rep that spoke about adjusting the SS to be fairer and fiscally responsible.
So when y'all look for scapegoats and targets, look to those brave winners of WWII when you do because they put in place most of the policies that are choking the country NOW.
And we wouldn't even be having this conversation if a bunch of young and old Wall street sharks and crooked politicians hadn't decided to get the banking laws changed or annulled so that they could proceed to gamble the country's future away on toxic assets disguised as prime investments.
Strangely enough, we don't hear too much about that or anyone responsible going to jail. Even though they've put our security at risk and stolen billions of dollars.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 18, 2013 07:38 AM (qyv02)
Posted by: gubmint worker at February 18, 2013 07:38 AM (XLuH2)
So what's to be done with those folks?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 18, 2013 08:00 AM (qyv02)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at February 18, 2013 08:03 AM (0Yr25)
Posted by: BuddyPC at February 18, 2013 08:16 AM (jfUIE)
They were over valued and under investigated and they were bundled so as to make it easier to sell. The bad mortgages came from those who weren't qualified for a home mortgage being given one with little or no ability to pay and many were also naive and ignorant about what they exactly were getting into.
Some did enter into these mortgages with the idea that they could do like many others and flip it and make money but they didn't have the skills nor the financial assets to upgrade the houses nor did they have the depth of assets to patiently wait for a sale. Some were in areas that were not where this could be easily done.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 18, 2013 08:49 AM (qyv02)
They should be called the Greediest Generation or the Most Gullible Generation.
It's them that approved and benefited the most from the socialist policies of Roosevelt. Appropriately enough, the first beneficiary of SS got thousands more than she ever contributed.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 18, 2013 11:38 AM (qyv02)
THIS.
Payment for most things is vertical; you work, you pay, you get. Social Security tilted that relationship to the right (toward increasing time); someone else to your right (in time) works, someone else pays, you get.
Of course, the ineluctable corollary to that is that eventually someone works and pays, but no one pays for him to get when the time comes. And the hilarious (and infuriating, for those of us with kids who will be affected) part of this is that the people who are going to get hosed voted for it to happen.
It's like bulls voting in bullfighting.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 18, 2013 09:33 AM (IDSI7)
I'm with you until this. The crash was caused by the FSA toppling things by blowing off their obligations. Blaming those who enabled them to get what they wanted, one way or another, for getting their feed-hands bit, is like blaming the Allies for the Holocaust for not putting the brakes on the Nazis sooner.
Posted by: BuddyPC at February 18, 2013 12:16 PM (jfUIE)
But ... but they were lied to! They were misled! They were sold predator loans! They didn't know!
Hey, dumb asses, if you're that stupid, you shouldn't be voting. Seriously, why would we want your considered judgment on how to handle the affairs of state, when you can't handle your own domestic affairs for shit?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 18, 2013 09:36 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Zombie Isaac Newton at February 18, 2013 10:45 AM (o6qwg)
Correct. They're high by an order of magnitude.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 18, 2013 09:44 AM (IDSI7)
Are they going to confiscate our "unequal" 401ks or just tax us? Or both?
I think I will take in a Gen Xer, and he or she can take care of me and live rent free. The least I can do since they were sold student debt by predatory colleges and since I'll be draining SS and Medicaid dry.
Yes, we are doomed.
Posted by: PJ at February 18, 2013 10:26 AM (ZWaLo)
It makes me want to apologize to everyone under the age of twenty or so for what we are doing to them.
I know this thread has long expired but I want to say that I do not aplogize to anyone who voted for Obama no matter how young or stupid. Everybody has to learn that elections have consequences and the younger they learn that the better.
Posted by: Decaf at February 18, 2013 12:22 PM (NmvvV)
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