July 06, 2013

The stupidity of sustainability: part 13,934 -- Composting [CBD]
— Open Blogger

Composting is a wonderful thing if you have your own garden, or you are a farmer, or just enjoy keeping the organic detritus from your kitchen in a bin until it rots. But making it mandatory in an urban setting, as New York City seems to be planning, is a stunning waste of resources. A cursory examination of the cost of transporting compostable materials separately from other garbage will yield an unsustainable (without taxpayer subsidies) system. The value of compost plummets the farther it is from the soil into which it will be mixed, and it isn't very valuable to begin with. The last time I checked, there were no farms in NYC, other than the tiny vanity farms of the terminally hip.

So NYC is in the process of forcing restaurants and, ultimately, private citizens to separate their organics to be composted and sold or distributed to those who are worthy of the special and valuable compost from the Big Apple. This is in addition to the already ridiculous and expensive programs for separating recyclables, only one of which -- aluminum -- makes financial sense.

This is stupidity on a grand scale. New York's infrastructure is decaying, it's municipal services are mediocre at best, crime is rising, traffic is awful (thanks to Bloomberg's bike paths and other assorted anti-car nonsense), and the city is going to spend nonexistent resources on a program that will benefit....who?

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1 I think this is awesome!

The voters of NYC voted for this.  Enjoy!

Posted by: TexBob at July 06, 2013 06:59 AM (6S4Ai)

2 Oh, and FOIST!

Posted by: TexBob at July 06, 2013 07:00 AM (6S4Ai)

3 WTF to say the least.

Posted by: Paladin at July 06, 2013 07:00 AM (/JGtb)

4 Facts? Never heard of them.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at July 06, 2013 07:01 AM (wR+pz)

5 I love it when the Government imposed forced labor on its citizens. Consumer level recycling is stupid and makes the world a worse place. And in the few cases where you can plausibly argue it makes economic sense -- that's only when they price citizen labor as free. Hey, do you want a part time job sorting through garbage? Well good news everyone! You already have one.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 07:03 AM (ZPrif)

6 . . . and the city is going to spend nonexistent resources on a program that will benefit....who? 1. The conspicuous virtue types 2. The busybodies who can never get enough of making other people jump through hoops 3. The kind of people who, when life hands them lemons, make sweet, sweet graft

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at July 06, 2013 07:03 AM (V3kRK)

7 NOOOObody loves them some stupid better than Liberals.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 06, 2013 07:04 AM (kXoT0)

8 We have a yard waste pick up here. It's to keep us from burning the leaves like we did for years until civilization moved around our area and legislated just how wrong we were.

It's okay, but we have about a 2 miles to the compost area.

Posted by: Bruce at July 06, 2013 07:04 AM (7Waan)

9 I'm sick of recyling. Half the time the city mixes up the contents of the bins. And then there are all the ugly bins. Maybe it's not so bad if you have alleys. If not, you have all these unsightly bins on the side of your house or on the street for two days for pickup.

Posted by: waldo at July 06, 2013 07:04 AM (iv7WQ)

10 If it keeps raining in NC, we'll be able to compost the whole fucking state. Can't trout fish, water too high. Can't play golf, course too wet. Can't sit by pool, no sun. Only solution? Drink.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 07:04 AM (wR+pz)

11 Benefits commies who want us to sink

Posted by: mbruce at July 06, 2013 07:04 AM (entLs)

12 I    constantly   get   yeast   infections   in   my   tiny   vanity   farm  yet  I  remain  terminally  hip  and  relevant.

Posted by: Anna Wintour at July 06, 2013 07:04 AM (c4IyR)

13 Recycling should be done at centralized plants by automated machines. And only when it makes sense. The Earth is mostly empty. There's endless room for landfills. What isn't profitable to recycle now, just dump it in a landfill. In 50 years we'll have better recycling tech and better robots and companies will pay to "mine" all the landfills.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 07:04 AM (ZPrif)

14

Penn and Teller did a wonderful job on this type of nonsense, with Californians agreeing to do a beta test on a (fictitious) new recycling program, separating such things as "lightly soiled toilet tissue" into the proper color-coded bin of about ten...

 

If I were smart enough to do tinyurl, I'd link it!

Posted by: barbarausa at July 06, 2013 07:05 AM (WWeoI)

15 The one time I recycled in this reycle friendly town was when I put out a years worth of pizza boxes, using the town's free tub they gave me, and that litter the town. Jammed it full of the pizza boxes, trash day just happened to have 50mph winds, and it all blew away. Never saw a trace of the boxes, or the container again.

Posted by: UWP at July 06, 2013 07:06 AM (r98SZ)

16 The government forcing citizens to recycle is no different from forcing them to eat kosher or bow to Mecca or say the Rosary -- recycling is a religious ritual imposed by the high priests of Environmentalism. I didn't join their stupid fucking earth religion, I shouldn't have to observe their stupid fucking purity rituals!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 07:06 AM (ZPrif)

17 Only solution? Drink.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 11:04 AM (wR+pz)

Now you're just bragging.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2013 07:06 AM (eSrLn)

18

Wanna know who started the "mandatory" recycling program in Fort Worth several years ago?

 

None other than the liberals' new media darling - St. Wendy (Davis) of the Third Trimester......

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 06, 2013 07:07 AM (ADnWI)

19 In my memory, NYC has suffered through a couple of Trash Collector strikes. Seems they've got plenty of evidence as to the end results for Urban Composting.

Posted by: Socalcon at July 06, 2013 07:07 AM (K6CHr)

20 Just put a dome over NYC and let it compost. That's all it's worth now.

Posted by: Corona at July 06, 2013 07:07 AM (fh2Y7)

21 Watch Penn & Teller's episode of "Bullshit" about recycling. A gigantic scam.

Posted by: Timon at July 06, 2013 07:07 AM (10/oH)

22 This the most humid spring/summer in NC ever. I can't stand much more of it.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 07:08 AM (4Mv1T)

23 Make sure to compost your excreta, too.

Posted by: Why do I bother? at July 06, 2013 07:08 AM (ab+jQ)

24 And New Yorkers continue to believe they are superior to the rest of us. I would agree if by superior, they mean stupider, more infantile and more insane.

Posted by: Chique d'afrique at July 06, 2013 07:08 AM (r+7wo)

25

Let Bloomingidiot drive them back to bankruptcy, they so richly deserve every horrifying moment of the return to barbarity when their credit dries up and they no longer have the means to support the BS foisted on them in the name of progress.

 

Posted by: Gmac - Pondering the coming implosion at July 06, 2013 07:08 AM (IanLz)

26 "Shut up, you science denier!" They'll scream. It's like Seattle planning a garden and orchard in one of their parks. Stupid and so full of ignorant fail on so many levels. But, the hipster shitheads will pat themselves on the back for such a "cool idea."

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 06, 2013 07:09 AM (VjL9S)

27 Terrific - we can return to the age of outhouses. That ought to do wonderful things for public health.

Posted by: Why do I bother? at July 06, 2013 07:09 AM (ab+jQ)

28 Try telling my limousine liberal friends that their stupid recycling is COSTING the city money. They will have none of it. You know those recycle bins have a RFID in them, right? In England if you don't use them you get a ticket. Coming to your "concerned" neighborhood soon.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 07:09 AM (wR+pz)

29 For some reason they won't let us recycle pizza boxes here in PHD-uh-stan. 

Grease?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 07:09 AM (4Mv1T)

30 "For Restaurants, Composting Is a Welcome but Complex Task" I didn't bother reading past this line. What restaurateur in their right mind welcomes this task? Oh wait, answer is in the question. Silly me.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 06, 2013 07:09 AM (U37Ux)

31 Help the greens! Take a shit on their lawn.

Posted by: RWC at July 06, 2013 07:10 AM (8FeS+)

32 What will they do when they find cigarette butts in your compost?

Posted by: Why do I bother? at July 06, 2013 07:10 AM (ab+jQ)

33

OK,

Yardwaste seemed acceptable I don't know what they do with it, but I only pay per bag, (and I hardly produce any bags since they suck leaves off the side of my street.  Except right now where I'm bagging my lawn because I've got a nasty grass fungus.)

Recycling seemed a bit much, but it's single stream and they provided the bin (and our trash service is provided by our municipality so, not much say.)  Plus, they don't check, so I don't have to be anywhere near perfect (and I buy less trashbags.)

But this would be a bit of a bridge to far.

Hell I have a 1/4 acre yard with landscaping, and even I don't compost because the effort isn't worth the output (Landscaping, not gardening, not enough sun to effectively garden.)

Posted by: tsrblke at July 06, 2013 07:11 AM (GaqMa)

34

Too many tall buildings.

Not enough sun.

Vitamin D deficiency deteriorates brain operation.

 

That's my explanation for most of what happens in New York.

 

 

Posted by: OJ, in the yard, with a knife at July 06, 2013 07:12 AM (1Y+hH)

35 I suggest we be silent on this matter...

I for one welcome the bubonic plague outbreaks an increase in the vermin population will bring.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 07:12 AM (LRFds)

36 Only solution? Drink.

Hummm, had a wee bit too much Sailor Jerry's yesterday.  A bit of the dog that bit me in the coffee this morning.  Was looking to cut back today, but hell i still got tomorrow to recover...

Posted by: Paladin at July 06, 2013 07:12 AM (/JGtb)

37 There was a TV news story a few years ago where the reporters followed a "recycling" truck and the "recyclable" materials just ended up with the regular garbage. Even if no one benefits, it's just another sector where Bib Brother gets to boss the little guy around and play the bully.

Posted by: logprof at July 06, 2013 07:12 AM (fOFYL)

38 My give- a- shit meter is on zero. Fuck New York

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 06, 2013 07:13 AM (R8hU8)

39 Heh, OJ sock from yesterday...

Posted by: Meremortal at July 06, 2013 07:13 AM (1Y+hH)

40 Human beings are, except for a tiny minority, inherently religious. Environmentalism is the dominant religion of the post-Christian ruling class today. Environmentalism has crawled into the desiccated husk of Christianity. Unspoiled nature = Eden pollution = sin recycling = penance technology = Eve's apple capitalism = the devil Al Gore = televangelist global warming = Armageddon

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 07:13 AM (ZPrif)

41 Penn and Teller vid http://tinyurl.com/b3htp4q

Posted by: RWC at July 06, 2013 07:13 AM (8FeS+)

42 1 Texbob,

Precisely...encourage them by God...

San Fran, Chicago, and NYC "to the future!"

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 07:13 AM (LRFds)

43 As a resident of New York City all I have to say is:  Thank  you libtards for voting for this asshole.

My commute to work this morning was awful (signal malfunction in the subways - a common occurrence now.)

Hmm.  Why don't we just dump some compost on those nasty Eurocentric train signals?

Posted by: Infidel de Manahatta at July 06, 2013 07:13 AM (daZwM)

44 Oh, and I purposely put trash in the recycle bin and recyclables in the trash bin. We had a burn barrel, a fifty gallon drum, growing up. When that was full of ash and the unburnable stuff, we'd take it to the dump.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 06, 2013 07:14 AM (VjL9S)

45 40 Flatbush Joe,

It'd do us well to try to get Environmentalist Wackoism declared a religion.

Then Xians could sue on "Separation of Church and State" grounds...

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 07:14 AM (LRFds)

46 This is merely cover for Bloomie's real plan, which is to use the compost and breed farms of giant genetically engineered rats that will be trained to go after people smoking cigarettes and drinking large sodas.

Posted by: real joe at July 06, 2013 07:14 AM (ABXpz)

47 UWP, I stopped recycling when my bin flew away in a storm, never again to be found.

Posted by: Chique d'afrique at July 06, 2013 07:15 AM (r+7wo)

48 crime is rising This is impossible. Mother Jones assures us that crime is a result of leaded gasoline.

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 06, 2013 07:15 AM (2wvIK)

49 So we redid our kitchen about 10 years ago. Put in all the usual, including a cabinet you pull out with the garbage can in it. I never understood why there are two trash bins in the thing. One of my liberal friends recently pointed out that one of the bins was for recycling. I guess the builder knew better than to tell in person. I got a recycling bin and didn't even axe for it.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 07:15 AM (wR+pz)

50 Thanks RWC!  I love the airhorn when they make mistakes, and the solemn nodding of heads when told "Japan does it!"

Posted by: barbarausa at July 06, 2013 07:16 AM (WWeoI)

51 I for one welcome the bubonic plague outbreaks an increase in the vermin population will bring.
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Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about.

When I moved Road Boy #1 to Boston last year there were mice running around just above his top bunk in the false ceiling.

And big effing rats in the open on the sidewalk occasionally.


Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 07:16 AM (4Mv1T)

52 I also purposefully mix recyclable and regular trash whenever I am forced to recycle. It's fun to screw with their system of control. And it raises the costs of their recycling.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 07:16 AM (ZPrif)

53 ...and the city is going to spend nonexistent resources on a program that will benefit....who? Those with a preening sense of idiosyncratic moral righteousness.

Posted by: BuddyPC at July 06, 2013 07:17 AM (jfUIE)

54 Our streets are now filled with these stupid wheelie-bins. We now all have three big ones: recycling, yard waste, and trash. That's three trucks coming thru instead of one. For the children!

Posted by: t-bird at July 06, 2013 07:17 AM (FcR7P)

55 If I look up and around ANYWHERE in this town there's an ugly faded red recycling bin in my field of vision, and usually several. Now if we can just get them to put a picture of dear leader on the bins directly, the transformation will be complete.

Posted by: UWP at July 06, 2013 07:17 AM (r98SZ)

56 In other environmental news: http://tinyurl.com/ov9fn55 A wingspan equal to the Airbus 340, a crew of 1, and 21 hours from DC to NYC. Forward!

Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 07:18 AM (sdi6R)

57 The rats will learn the color coding scheme quickly. IT sure beats rooting through garbage looking for something to eat.

Posted by: Chicago Voter at July 06, 2013 07:18 AM (qZb8X)

58 Our town -- in MA -- requires citizens to bring all trash to what they call a "Transfer Station." Trash-trash goes into giant bins and paper/bottles go into recycling bins, while yard waste goes on giganto piles. One year, the "soil" produced by the compost piles was superb for gardening (and free to pick up), but the current compost is worse than plain ol' yard dirt. Our tomatoes hate it, and show their displeasure by not growing.

All that said, stuff that isn't quite trash-ready is separated and sometimes gets lugged home. We've found a few treasures there.

Best of all, they take books. I have scored big in the "book barn," and am impressed by the literacy of some in town.

It all seems pretty sensible to me....

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 06, 2013 07:18 AM (/RIVS)

59

There used to be voluntary recycling here in my western Colorado county.

 

The county got tired of losing money and put a stop to it.

 

We only have 14,000 in this county so we figure out what stupid things to end quicker. We still have burn barrels too.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 06, 2013 07:18 AM (1Y+hH)

60 Don't confuse Greenies with facts. This is a religion -- it's not about facts, it's about faith. Belief in things that cannot be proven leading to a higher level of consciousness and a terrific sense of self-importance and moral superiority. If it was a fact, it wouldn't be Green. The reason leftists hate Christianity is because they think it's just as full of BS as leftist religions are, only its adherents vote for the wrong party.

Posted by: Socratease at July 06, 2013 07:18 AM (AgrAs)

61
That's retarded, sir!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 06, 2013 07:18 AM (BES7t)

62
NYC needs to start composting their politicians.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 06, 2013 07:19 AM (0IhFx)

63 Yes, this is dumb. Also saw a natl govt ad on tv setting reducing water usage by 25% by 2025. Water usage aint a national issue. Ppl in Houston do not have the issues ppl in Arizona have. I hate these meddlesome effers.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at July 06, 2013 07:19 AM (5H6zj)

64 Great! Now the rats will have no trouble finding a meal.

Posted by: Hawk at July 06, 2013 07:19 AM (2dYnc)

65 @56 So hows that rain going to help that solar plane?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 07:19 AM (wR+pz)

66 If you only buy 'processed foods' there isn't any 'kitchen waste' to recycle. Problem solved.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 06, 2013 07:20 AM (6hXbv)

67 Now if we can just get them to put a picture of dear leader on the bins directly, the transformation will be complete. Posted by: UWP at July 06, 2013 11:17 AM

Only if you want people to drop steamers in the bins!

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 06, 2013 07:20 AM (/RIVS)

68 Okay, everybody tuck your pants into your socks!

Posted by: Corona at July 06, 2013 07:20 AM (fh2Y7)

69 It's raining rats!   It's raining rats!


Look.   When you have immunity, who gives a shit if you give an entire populace cholera? 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 06, 2013 07:21 AM (Gk3SS)

70 Al Gore is so obviously just a "green" version of a corrupt televangelist. He preaches about the sins of carbon pollution while living in a 27 room mansion, circling the world once a month in his private jet, and operating a fleet of SUVs. "Hi, my name's Al Gore. Did you know that you're a horrible person who's killin' the planet? It's true! That's why you should buy my DVD, for only $19.95. It's all about how you're a horrible person who's killin' the planet."

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 07:21 AM (ZPrif)

71 Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 06, 2013 11:20 AM (6hXbv)

Interesting point.

Commercial food production facilities are much more efficient than home kitchens, so you could argue that we should eat only processed food.....for the children!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2013 07:22 AM (eSrLn)

72 It all seems pretty sensible to me.... Posted by: MrScribbler at July 06, 2013 11:18 AM (/RIVS) You must value your time very low if wasting it at a trash station sounds sensible. Course, you did mention you are in MA.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 07:22 AM (wR+pz)

73 Also, like abortion, composting should be safe, legal and rare.

Posted by: Infidel de Manahatta at July 06, 2013 07:22 AM (daZwM)

74 Our streets are now filled with these stupid wheelie-bins.
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Somebody plowed into one of those things two doors down a couple of nights ago. Knocked it 60 feet into the next yard. Looked like a bomb went off. Trash everywhere.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 07:23 AM (4Mv1T)

75 15 or 20 years ago the Island made separating your garbage mandatory. Worse, you had to take it yourself to the old Air National Guard Armory at the airport there. Visions of old people who could hardly walk staggering from one "recycle" bin to another with their garbage. Finally a reporter had the wits to follow the county garbage trucks to the dump on Cate road. All this carefully separated garbage? Went in the same hole.... All the commissioners who voted for this lost the next election....

Posted by: backhoe at July 06, 2013 07:23 AM (ULH4o)

76 And we did separate out our food refuse into a separate bin, to feed the chickens. Fuckers think they are so smart, when the stupid hicks on the farm have been "environmentally conscious" for centuries. Oh. And compost has to be turned over regularly to compost. And it sinks. You know, because it is rotting.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 06, 2013 07:24 AM (VjL9S)

77 Holy shit, something just broke out of the clouds. I'll be back, could be a sun siting.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 07:24 AM (wR+pz)

78 Al Gore is so obviously just a "green" version of a corrupt televangelist. He preaches about the sins of carbon pollution while living in a 27 room mansion, circling the world once a month in his private jet, and operating a fleet of SUVs.  Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 11:21 AM

You're just jealous.

And so am I!

Imagine rakin' in hundreds of millions by standing up and saying in a trembly voice: "The planet has a feee-ver!"

Damnit, why didn't I think of that????

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 06, 2013 07:24 AM (/RIVS)

79 Holy shit, something just broke out of the clouds. It's SMOD! Finally!

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 06, 2013 07:25 AM (2wvIK)

80 The streets are quite steep in my area. Sometimes, a bin gets knocked over, lid open, and it's coming at you in the dark. Scarey as hell because you have no idea what it is.

Posted by: waldo at July 06, 2013 07:25 AM (iv7WQ)

81 When recycling makes economic sense -- then everybody does it in their own self-interest. But the recycling that makes us poorer is a better conspicuous display of religiosity. It's like the muzzies that pray so often and so hard that they have a giant, hideous callous on their forehead from grinding their head into the dirt so hard. The stupidity and obvious self-harm is the point -- it shows how strong your faith is.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 07:25 AM (ZPrif)

82 @77 Fuck, whatever it was, it just went back in the clouds.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 07:26 AM (wR+pz)

83
It should make NYC smell even more wonderful, with every apartment collecting separate organic wastes to be picked up separately. 

Did the trash union come up with this plan?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 06, 2013 07:26 AM (BES7t)

84

On Thursday night, CBS News obtained a photo of Kerry on his boat and sent it to the State Department, asking whether they still stand by their denial that Kerry was on a boat.

The response: "Yes."


Lying liars who lie

Posted by: chinaacid at July 06, 2013 07:26 AM (Nba5H)

85 Okay. Wife says we got ants in the dishwasher.

Time for a search and destroy mission. Back later.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 07:27 AM (4Mv1T)

86 "So NYC is in the process of forcing restaurants and, ultimately, private citizens to separate their organics to be composted and sold or distributed to those who are worthy of the special and valuable compost from the Big Apple."

Speaking of which, I just finished watching the first episode of "Portlandia" (Netflix).  That's some of the best send-up comedy I've seen in years. 

Posted by: mrp at July 06, 2013 07:27 AM (HjPtV)

87 Smell that smell!

Posted by: teh Wind at July 06, 2013 07:27 AM (JIMJN)

88 He preaches about the sins of carbon pollution while living in a 27 room mansion, circling the world once a month in his private jet, and operating a fleet of SUVs. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 11:21 AM But he pays a carbon tax, does he not? Another way of lowering the standard of living to the point where there are only the rich and the poor.

Posted by: waldo at July 06, 2013 07:28 AM (iv7WQ)

89 You must value your time very low if wasting it at a trash station sounds sensible.

Course, you did mention you are in MA. Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 11:22 AM

Takes about five minutes a week to make a trash run (it's a SMALL town!), not much longer than it used to take dragging bins out to the curb.

And yes, I will happily spend an extra few minutes prowling around in the "book barn" and rooting through the dropped-off furniture, appliances, odd metal stuff, etc. Some people PAY to browse junk shops and book stores, you know.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 06, 2013 07:28 AM (/RIVS)

90 Bloomberg's motto: I can out Dinkins Dinkins!

Posted by: Evil Blogger Lady at July 06, 2013 07:29 AM (UYjru)

91 Fuck the eco-nazis.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 07:29 AM (ZPrif)

92 Speaking of NYC smell. Anyone else remember the garbage strike back in the 60's when shit piled up in the streets. Talk about a nice smell http://tinyurl.com/mynvdj3

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 07:29 AM (wR+pz)

93 ....the city is going to spend nonexistent resources on a program that will benefit....who? ***** Hey!! That kickback's gonna' be 10%! Politics don't run on wishes!

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at July 06, 2013 07:30 AM (MhA4j)

94 Posted by: MrScribbler at July 06, 2013 11:28 AM (/RIVS)

So....hundreds of cars go to the facility instead of one specially designed truck?

Sounds pretty wasteful to me.

The books though.....I couldn't resist that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2013 07:30 AM (eSrLn)

95 Uh, doesn't organic waste compost itself in landfills? This shit is crony money for the waste companies and their fat union employees.

Posted by: zsasz at July 06, 2013 07:30 AM (MMC8r)

96 Whaddya know? You can follow the flight live. http://live.solarimpulse.com/ I was curious as to whether I would be able to see it pass overhead, but no such luck.

Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 07:30 AM (sdi6R)

97 That's why you should buy my DVD, for only $19.95.

You forgot the S&H: $7.95

Oh, and don't forget  to recycle all the packaging.

Posted by: Retread at July 06, 2013 07:32 AM (Oz+LZ)

98 Bike lanes cause congestion? I like how you just throw that out there as though it's axiomatic. http://www.thewashcycle.com/traffic-congestion/ It's also important to note that %90 of cyclists own and drive cars, sharing all the same costs and concerns. You know what causes congestion? Cars.

Posted by: ronsfi at July 06, 2013 07:32 AM (4/pW2)

99 Bloomberg's motto: I can out Dinkins Dinkins! Posted by: Evil Blogger Lady at July 06, 2013 11:29 AM ***** Except Dinkins dinker is much bigger than Blooms dinker and that's the nexus of the impetus.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at July 06, 2013 07:32 AM (MhA4j)

100 I've been in NYC a bunch of times, and regardless of the year, the season, or the location, Manhattan stinks.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at July 06, 2013 07:33 AM (/lWM8)

101 Does O-Care cover bubonic plague?

Posted by: RWC at July 06, 2013 07:33 AM (8FeS+)

102 And fuck the bike lanes.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 07:34 AM (ZPrif)

103

A cockroach farm in your  own back yard?

 

Brilliant!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 06, 2013 07:34 AM (0HooB)

104 Same eco-maggots who block all new roads.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 07:34 AM (ZPrif)

105 79 Holy shit, something just broke out of the clouds. It's SMOD! Finally! Posted by: Waterhouse at July 06, 2013 11:25 AM (2wvIK) what should i pack??????!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 06, 2013 07:35 AM (8JJ6O)

106

 

My city offers free compost to anyone who wants it. Farmers will come and pick it up by the truckload, so it must be doing some good.

As for me, my raised bed garden gets some used coffee grounds every day, sort of a "Good Morning, Vegetables!"

 

Posted by: MisterMoney at July 06, 2013 07:35 AM (wN82N)

107 A cockroach farm in your own back yard? Brilliant! Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit *** I can see the advertisement on the back of the comic book.... Like an ant farm...only 60'X108'

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at July 06, 2013 07:36 AM (MhA4j)

108 So....hundreds of cars go to the facility instead of one specially designed truck? The books though.....I couldn't resist that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2013 11:30 AM

No cars, darn it. I'd be in a world of hurt if I came home with a Corvair, Checker or ancient Volvo to work on. Never been cured of that disease....

But then this part of Eastern MA is strictly dullsville when it comes to cars. Unless you like Subarus, Buicks or rusting pickup trucks. Makes a sighting a a "classic" a historic and treasured event.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 06, 2013 07:37 AM (/RIVS)

109 Rather than pushing recycling I wld rather see mire effort at reducing over packaging. You know, the pill bottle shoved into a box twice its size thing. A few yrs ago when I was working in s B-school we were doing a business plan study on Walmart who was leaning on their suppliers to reduce package size to save on shipping and storage costs. It was working.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at July 06, 2013 07:37 AM (5H6zj)

110 what should i pack??????!!!! Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 06, 2013 **** The packing's already done for you! Bon Voyage'!

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at July 06, 2013 07:37 AM (MhA4j)

111 Except Dinkins dinker is much bigger than Blooms dinker and that's the nexus of the impetus.

Excuse me while I whip this out.

Posted by: Tony W at July 06, 2013 07:38 AM (FV+H9)

112 John Kerry a yachtsman, a great man.
It is said once served in Vietnam
Today as you see
He hides from we
lest his absence from State be damned.

Of Course if Kerry were meddling in the middle East, even though Egypt counts as Africa, he would still be cursed as the fraud that he has always been so he might as well enjoy the sailing.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 06, 2013 07:38 AM (6hXbv)

113 "I can see the advertisement on the back of the comic book.... Like an ant farm...only 60'X108'"

Next to the full-page "TSA-Approved X-Ray Specs!"

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at July 06, 2013 07:38 AM (/lWM8)

114 This fucking cast is starting to itch already. Time for second drink.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 07:38 AM (wR+pz)

115 We had a fifty gallon barrel with axe holes in it to burn paper, leaves and such. We had an old guy on a mule drawn wagon that would take scrap metal and glass and such. He would also sharpen knives.

 I still remember that mule. May have been my only occasion to see a real working mule.

Posted by: navybrat at July 06, 2013 07:39 AM (tPLfq)

116 109 Rather than pushing recycling I wld rather see mire effort at reducing over packaging. You know, the pill bottle shoved into a box twice its size thing. A few yrs ago when I was working in s B-school we were doing a business plan study on Walmart who was leaning on their suppliers to reduce package size to save on shipping and storage costs. It was working. Posted by: Y-not on the phone at July 06, 2013 11:37 AM (5H6zj) ^^^^^THIS^^^^^

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 06, 2013 07:39 AM (8JJ6O)

117 everyone in nyc should have cisterns too

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 06, 2013 07:40 AM (8JJ6O)

118 So how did the ONT go? Did any cob loggers faint and have to be fanned awake?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 06, 2013 07:41 AM (FV+H9)

119 Some people PAY to browse junk shops and book stores, you know.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 06, 2013 11:28 AM (/RIVS)

In my family we could never let my father take the trash to the transfer station. He always brought back more than he took.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 06, 2013 07:42 AM (6hXbv)

120 billybob what happened?

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 06, 2013 07:42 AM (8JJ6O)

121 Broke wrist about three weeks ago. Typing with one hand sucks. two more more months.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 07:43 AM (wR+pz)

122 Okay. Solved the ant problem in the dishwasher. Wife said there were 20 in there. I counted 3.

This is the downside of telling the wife for 20 years that the Johnson is 20 inches, when in reality.....

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 07:43 AM (4Mv1T)

123 You can make artificial manure by a centuries old recipe of Alum, Blood Meal, and Compost (ABC),.

It seems that New York wants to turn everything to crap and they're creating their own recipe.

Posted by: gastorgrab at July 06, 2013 07:43 AM (FX38i)

124 In my family we could never let my father take the trash to the transfer station. He always brought back more than he took.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 06, 2013 11:42 AM

I'm getting the same reputation here.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 06, 2013 07:43 AM (/RIVS)

125 I still remember that mule. May have been my only occasion to see a real working mule. Posted by: navybrat at July 06, 2013 11:39 AM **** I remember these wagons full of fruit coming through the neighbor hood when I was a kid. Best watermelons ever. They would pick fruit in the Rio Grande Valley and truck it up to Austin to distribute with a fleet of mule drawn wagons. Back when Austin was about 10 miles square.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at July 06, 2013 07:43 AM (MhA4j)

126 It's like the muzzies that pray so often and so hard that they have a giant, hideous callous on their forehead from grinding their head into the dirt so hard. The stupidity and obvious self-harm is the point -- it shows how strong your faith is. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 11:25 AM (ZPrif) Those prayer carpets are pretty germy. I remember reading an article where they cultured a sample of them and they have all sorts of crap growing which encourages the ugly ass growths on their foreheads.

Posted by: waldo at July 06, 2013 07:44 AM (iv7WQ)

127

We've skewed the market with stupid and government subsidies.

The market will tell you what is beneficial.

Take cans. Aluminum is very hard to extract from boxite.  Hence they *paid* you for cans back in the day (anyone remember collecting their cans then taking them up to the recycling center for a few bucks?)

Paper, not so much.

Plastic less so.

And given what we've learned about reclaiming old capped garbage dumps, the whole "Saves land" thing may also turn out to be a misnomer. (Plus many garbage dumps are in old extracted quarries anyway.  So it's not like the land was useable before.)

Of course I'm never going to get my city to stop recycling, so what to do?  I guess I'll be halfassed about it and at least be happy it saved me some personal money on trashbags.

Posted by: tsrblke at July 06, 2013 07:45 AM (GaqMa)

128

About 15 years ago, I rented a house.   The previous renters  had thrown their yard waste in a pile in the back yard.  Being new to the area, I thought nothing  of it.

 

Imagine my surprise when I was served with a notice to clean up that   compost pile.  Some of the roaches in that pile   could've  had a saddle put on them.  Did I mention that there were mice all over  the place   too?  This was  in a relatively  affluent  area.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 06, 2013 07:45 AM (0HooB)

129 TR My son had a garter snake that gave birth to 20 live little snakes. You could hardly keep them in aquarium. Wife found one in dishwasher, which is downstairs from his room. She just took it back upstairs.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 07:46 AM (wR+pz)

130 I live in the South Bronx. If by "composting" you mean tossing your chicken bones in the street rather than a trash can, I think we're already composting.

Posted by: Oschisms at July 06, 2013 07:48 AM (pfVS8)

Posted by: at July 06, 2013 07:48 AM (qQk+U)

132 Enough is enough, I'm tired all these motherfuckin' snakes in this motherfucking dishwasher!

Posted by: some memes never get old at July 06, 2013 07:49 AM (FV+H9)

133 "And yes, I will happily spend an extra few minutes prowling around in the "book barn" and rooting through the dropped-off furniture, appliances, odd metal stuff, etc. Some people PAY to browse junk shops and book stores, you know.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 06, 2013 11:28 AM (/RIVS)"


We have a similar setup where I live. I get nifty stuff like structural steel, paint and solvents, and near-new power tools from mine. Got a full, unopened sack of KCl water softening salt not long ago. It's like having a free hardware store.



And the best way, bar none, to recycle, is to reuse the item for its intended purpose.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2013 07:50 AM (savps)

134 "Land spreading out  far and wide . . ."

Posted by: Oliver Douglass at July 06, 2013 07:50 AM (BAS5M)

135 Oh, and many times, the sanitation engineers down here will pick up the recycling before the recycling truck arrives.  I can only imagine where it ends up.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 06, 2013 07:51 AM (0HooB)

136 There was never a City Council, or a nanny state mayor, who didn't know what was good for you.  So you snarling serfs, and pissed off peasantry, shut up. The Mayor knows best!

Posted by: Comanche Voter at July 06, 2013 07:51 AM (RZP0w)

137 BB- My wife would kill her own firstborn if she knew he had brought a snake in the house. I have more fun with her when we take walks. I'll point at a stick in the gutter and yell,  "SNAKE!"

She was five years younger than me when we married. Not anymore.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 07:52 AM (4Mv1T)

138 I vow never to consume more energy than peak Al Gore, John Kerry, or George Clooney.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 07:52 AM (ZPrif)

139 he would still be cursed as the fraud that he has always been so he might as well enjoy the sailing.

With our luck the nukes will hit while he's out on his stupid boat and he'll be president.

That is unless it's Cylons that hit us, then the president will be Arne Duncan.

Posted by: Some Guy at July 06, 2013 07:53 AM (uPbpg)

140 'leaning on their suppliers to reduce package size to save on shipping and storage costs"

You can illustrate this by showing  how quickly LED/plasma screens took out the tube TVs and monitors.  Despite the higher initial costs to work out the manufacturing kinks -- they still were cost competitive because you could ship five of them for every Tube set of a comparable size.

Posted by: Jean at July 06, 2013 07:54 AM (CMlD4)

141 Time to test my theory that I'm immune to poison ivy. BBL, itchy or not.

Posted by: RWC at July 06, 2013 07:54 AM (8FeS+)

142 From what I am hearing from people who actually saw The Lone Ranger, they liked it. Was it political correctness that killed the movie? You live by the PC sword, you die by the PC sword. So, I can't feel sorry for Hwd leftards.

Posted by: waldo at July 06, 2013 07:55 AM (iv7WQ)

143 We have a similar setup where I live. I get nifty stuff like structural steel, paint and solvents, and near-new power tools from mine. Got a full, unopened sack of KCl water softening salt not long ago. It's like having a free hardware store.

And the best way, bar none, to recycle, is to reuse the item for its intended purpose.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2013 11:50 AM

The metal trash pile is strictly off limits for picking, presumably out of fear that some 95 year-old local will slice off his arm pawing through it. Also because some company pays the town to collect all the dead lawnmowers, brake drums, failed air conditioners, etc.

But if you ask nicely, the employees will look the other way while you grab a useful item out of there.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 06, 2013 07:55 AM (/RIVS)

144

I vow never to consume more energy than peak Al Gore, John Kerry, or George Clooney.

 

That would  be a great  sign to carry at the next  Earf Day rally.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 06, 2013 07:55 AM (0HooB)

145 @140 Wash off with Tide when you get back. Don't risk it. I mean wash yourself with Tide.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 07:56 AM (wR+pz)

146 There must be a dozen different "flexible" hose infomercials these days. annoying.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 07:56 AM (ZPrif)

147

My son had a garter snake that gave birth to 20 live little snakes. You could hardly keep them in aquarium. Wife found one in dishwasher, which is downstairs from his room.

She just took it back upstairs.

...........................................

 

 

I would have slammed that door shut so fast, started the hot water and called the appliance store to deliver me a new old (and to haul out the old) asap.

Posted by: Molly k. at July 06, 2013 07:56 AM (5D7FQ)

148 96 Whaddya know? You can follow the flight live. http://live.solarimpulse.com/ Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 11:30 AM (sdi6R) Why does it look like the pilot is surrounded by the eternal flames of hell? Or maybe it's just my tiny phone screen.

Posted by: Chique d'afrique at July 06, 2013 07:57 AM (r+7wo)

149

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 06, 2013 11:51 AM (0HooB)

 

Heh that's nothing.

My university started a recycling program to get LEED certified (and some sweet sweet government cheese that came with that.)

So we all got 2 cans, recycling and regular.

Except trashcans in an office always go missing.  So people just put bags in their recycling cans.

Finally the janitors stopped separating them and everything ended up in one trashcan.

It's a university so some econazi's complained (sadly I a few might have been from my department).  So now the janitors have 2 cans to put the stuff in on their cart, but I think they still throw it all away in the same dumpster .

Posted by: tsrblke at July 06, 2013 07:57 AM (GaqMa)

150 You know that stupid HBO show nobody watches? 

Not that one, the one with the fake news crew.  Apparently the main character referred to the Tea Party as the American Taliban. 

No, I don't understand the connection either.  But what are the Taliban?  A bunch of religious zealots, imposing the  tenets of their faith on everybody else, at gunpoint. 

So who are the American Taliban, then? 

I present to you: the  environmentalist wackos, and their high priest, Hizzoner Bloomberg. 

Posted by: BurtTC at July 06, 2013 07:57 AM (BeSEI)

151 This is stupidity on a grand scale.






And that is liberalism in a nutshell. Stupidity on a grand scale. Thomas Sowell summed it up nicely when he wrote - "Much of the social history of the Western world over the past 3 decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good."

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 06, 2013 07:57 AM (TGA2G)

152 141

From what I am hearing from people who actually saw The Lone Ranger, they liked it. Was it political correctness that killed the movie? You live by the PC sword, you die by the PC sword. So, I can't feel sorry for Hwd leftards.

Posted by: waldo at July 06, 2013 11:55 AM (iv7WQ)

Have the movie studios statements yet blaming the tanking of "The Lone Ranger" and "White House Down" on teh piracy?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at July 06, 2013 07:58 AM (b8bA9)

153 Despicable Me 2 short review:

Why in hell does a third of the movie take place in a MALL?!

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 06, 2013 07:59 AM (FV+H9)

154 147 Why does it look like the pilot is surrounded by the eternal flames of hell? Or maybe it's just my tiny phone screen. Posted by: Chique d'afrique at July 06, 2013 11:57 AM (r+7wo) Right now they're replaying the takeoff, which was around 5:00 am this morning.

Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 07:59 AM (sdi6R)

155 The White House Down producers should arrest themselves for piracy, because they plagiarised the screenplay for Olympus Has Fallen

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 06, 2013 08:00 AM (FV+H9)

156 @96 Someone call the NSA, those fucker on the solar plane are speaking french.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 08:00 AM (wR+pz)

157 New York's infrastructure is decaying, it's municipal services are mediocre at best, crime is rising, traffic is awful (thanks to Bloomberg's bike paths and other assorted anti-car nonsense),





Chicago has been doing this for years. And what ends up is a bunch of white guys in dreadlocks or ponytails riding their bikes down major streets blocking an entire lane of traffic during rush hour traffic with smug looks on their faces because they are sticking it to the car drivers. You know the people who actually are trying to get to and from a job who keep the shitty city running with their tax dollars while the pieces of excrement on bikes can live a life of no responsibility

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 06, 2013 08:01 AM (TGA2G)

158 Much of the social history of the Western world over the past 3 decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good.

I'd say the past five centuries, but hey.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 06, 2013 08:01 AM (FV+H9)

159 Just wait till the Wild Hogs show up, they are already in Southern Ohio.

Posted by: Patrick at July 06, 2013 08:02 AM (b6koZ)

160 @151

Have the movie studios released statements... 

Need more coffee.  Guess I'm still recovering from my July 4th "festivities."

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at July 06, 2013 08:02 AM (b8bA9)

161 Was it political correctness that killed the movie?>>

I've only seen the trailers, But how is it PC to have Tonto a white guy in makeup used for Africans in the 40s

Posted by: McGregor at July 06, 2013 08:04 AM (qo244)

162

The  told   the   crew   of   my   yacht     to   recycle.   I    feel    greener   already!

Posted by: John Kerry Heinz at July 06, 2013 08:04 AM (c4IyR)

163 bunch of white guys in dreadlocks or ponytails riding their bikes down major streets blocking an entire lane of traffic during rush hour traffic with smug looks on their faces


I hope the smug motherfucker who I almost ran over the other day thanked his guardian angel that I saw him and slammed on my brakes. Cocksucka blew through a red light on a main, 4 lane road, on his mountain bike as I was speeding up to make the light at the intersection. I hate those fucking douchebags.

Posted by: real joe at July 06, 2013 08:05 AM (ABXpz)

164 Imagine my surprise when I was served with a notice to clean up that compost pile. Some of the roaches in that pile could've had a saddle put on them. Did I mention that there were mice all over the place too? This was in a relatively affluent area.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 06, 2013 11:45 AM (0HooB)


Roaches and mice?  Sounds like there was more than yard waste back there. 

Posted by: Red Shirt at July 06, 2013 08:06 AM (FIDMq)

165

Oh sidenote,

I suspect things in my area will get worse re: Recylcing.

We have a landfill that's on fire and has been for about 6 weeks.  They're trying to put it out, but apparently the stink is awful (I don't live more than a 2 miles from it, but I'm upwind and on the other side of a ridge so...meh.)

There's also some old nuclear waste buried there.  So I expect the ecotards to seize on this. (Nevermind that they're excavating to put out the fire and I believe once that's done the landfill has to be capped and closed.)

Posted by: tsrblke at July 06, 2013 08:07 AM (GaqMa)

166 And of course the costs of said composting will be passed on to the customer in the form of yet higher menu prices. This is why I stay home and cook for myself. Price as well as he joy of doing something for myself that 8 out of 10 times tastes better and is healthier for me. I'm sure Bloomberg's tyrannical apparatchiks at Shitty Haul will realize this and just tax food at the supermarket level. And another unintended consequence: more expensive food for the poor all around. But then again, we the shrinking number of taxpayers will foot the bill. I cannot wait to get the fuck out of my once beloved hometown.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 06, 2013 08:08 AM (+98Gb)

167 I hope the smug motherfucker who I almost ran over the other day thanked his guardian angel that I saw him and slammed on my brakes. Cocksucka blew through a red light on a main, 4 lane road, on his mountain bike as I was speeding up to make the light at the intersection. I hate those fucking douchebags.

Posted by: real joe at July 06, 2013 12:05 PM (ABXpz)




They do that all the time. They go right through traffic lights like everyone is supposed to get out of their way because they are saving the world by riding a bike. Let them take a bus to their jobs as bagboys at Whole Foods and get out of my way

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 06, 2013 08:09 AM (TGA2G)

168 Bicyclists certainly make it more difficult than it has to be to get around the Boulder Valley. They never stop at stop signs and they don't stop for pedestrians either.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 06, 2013 08:09 AM (FV+H9)

169 The eco-nazis are determined to impoverish as many people as they can.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 08:09 AM (ZPrif)

170 ProTip for restaurants - have a plumber install an extra wide toilet drain and just flush it down or start putting in garbage disposers in the kitchen sinks. I think those are illegal in NYC, of course.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 06, 2013 08:09 AM (+98Gb)

171 If the Cylons attack Sandra Fluke will be the next president and Roseanne Barr will be chief of staff.

Posted by: angel with a sword at July 06, 2013 08:09 AM (2y8mE)

172 This will benefit plants, that's who. They are long under-represented voting block and viewed by most as somethings next meal. Plants demand justice and a hand up, not a hand out.

Posted by: Dave in Houston at July 06, 2013 08:09 AM (wB5dd)

173 Cocksucka blew through a red light on a main, 4 lane road, on his mountain bike as I was speeding up to make the light at the intersection. I hate those fucking douchebags.

Posted by: real joe at July 06, 2013 12:05 PM (ABXpz)


They have to obey the lights and signs too right?  Aholes want to be on the road, then your just like a car, but more squishy.

Posted by: Red Shirt at July 06, 2013 08:09 AM (FIDMq)

174 Roaches and mice? Sounds like there was more than yard waste back there.
Posted by: Red Shirt
------------------------
Here in eastern NC we have "waterbugs". They are big effing commando size cock roaches. But they are outdoor critters, and usually stay out there. Usually.

And voles, and mice outside. They get in the attic. No clue how. Entire house is brick with finished basement

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 08:09 AM (4Mv1T)

175 "on a program that will benefit....who?"

The rats got to eat too....

Posted by: SDN at July 06, 2013 08:10 AM (9QWym)

176 This fucking cast is starting to itch already.

Time for second drink.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 11:38 AM (wR+pz)

What type of fracture do you have? I broke my right wrist last May 1st....the classic Colles Fracture. The orthopedic doctor was able to set it and fab a full arm cast, up to my arm pit. By June 2, he was able to replace it with a half cast, which was soooo much better. That was removed on June 20th. So, a month and a half in a cast. The physical therapy afterword was the bitch! And, yes, you will need it. That was another 4 weeks of pain, instilled by Mistress Helga. I know what you're going through. Sucks when it happens to your dominant hand/wrist.  Of course, I waited 65 years to break mine. GAH!!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 06, 2013 08:10 AM (TPimP)

177 The 21-hour flight time from DC to NY includes a 9-hour holding pattern off the Jersey shore, which they are currently in. They had to take off from DC before dawn when the regular traffic was light, and they will arrive in NY about 2:00 am, also to avoid traffic. So the actual flight time would be "only" 12 hours. NY morons in the Barnegat Bay, Ocean Township, and Long Beach Island areas ought to try looking for it just offshore.

Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 08:10 AM (sdi6R)

178 @176 Make that NJ morons.

Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 08:10 AM (sdi6R)

179 We had a fifty gallon barrel with axe holes in it to burn paper, leaves and such. We had an old guy on a mule drawn wagon that would take scrap metal and glass and such. He would also sharpen knives.

I still remember that mule. May have been my only occasion to see a real working mule.

Posted by: navybrat at July 06, 2013 11:39 AM

=========================================================

When I was a kid we burned our paper/cardboard trash and saved the cans to store stuff like nails, etc.  We had a compost pile but it was for leaves. The rest of the garbage was collected by the city.  The garbage collectors wore over-alls and carried this big metal sort of basket on their shoulder. They would go to your driveway or back yard and empty your metal garbage cans into that basket thing and then carry it back out to the dump truck.  In the summer you could smell it coming up the street and you had to feel sorry for the guys.  When the truck was full they took it to the city dump which was right on a small river/large creek.  Guys used to go down there and shoot rats for target practice.


Posted by: Deanna at July 06, 2013 08:11 AM (BgAxx)

180 51 Bubonic plague. Well that would reduce the city's carbon footprint significantly. As the town criers cruise the streets shouting "Bring out your dead" everyone rushes to dump the bodies in those handy recycling bins.

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2013 08:11 AM (M/TDA)

181 I would have more sympathy for the deadlock bicycle assholes if I hadn't known some of them personally. Pretty much all were hard-core liberal fascists. They didn't just want bike lanes for them. They wanted to block new roads for me. They were all happy to use state power to mandate their idea of the how to live on their fellow citizens.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 08:12 AM (ZPrif)

182 Recycling aint new. Henry ford specified the wooden boxes suppliers sent parts for his cars so they could be reused as floorboards in the Model T.

Posted by: McGregor at July 06, 2013 08:12 AM (qo244)

183 I grew up on a small fruit farm. Chemicals are your friend. And they are one of the reasons that our farmers can produce mammoth amounts of food efficiently. My dad's neighbors compost for their home garden. It's a huge amount of work. Buy bags of fertilizer and you give the people who work in fertilizer businesses a job.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 06, 2013 08:13 AM (DpI6K)

184 "So NYC is in the process of forcing restaurants and, ultimately, private citizens to separate their organics to be composted and sold or distributed to those who are worthy of the special and valuable compost from the Big Apple."

"Being green" is the tool.  Controlling every aspect of people's lives is the aim.

Posted by: Mr_Write at July 06, 2013 08:13 AM (Fn7Hb)

185 Recycling isn't the problem -- state-mandated recycling when it makes no economic sense is. When recycling makes economic sense -- then the market will recycle without needing to be ordered by the State.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 08:14 AM (ZPrif)

186 Consumer level recycling mandated by law is economically wasteful and makes the world a poorer, sicker, unhappier place.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 08:15 AM (ZPrif)

187 @175 Just broke, cracked, small bone in left wrist. I have full cast now to be replace in 10 days with short cast. Then TWO more months. Opening garage door with no power, rope lock release broke. I waited 65 too! I've done rehab, three torn rotator chuffs. Old is ugly.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 08:15 AM (wR+pz)

188 185 That's the idea.

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2013 08:16 AM (M/TDA)

189 I always felt bad for a doctor in LA who had cyclists on his street all the time. One day he lost it and stopped short causing one of the cyclers to be seriously injured. Doc went to prison.

Posted by: waldo at July 06, 2013 08:16 AM (iv7WQ)

190 Yep, once again progtards steal your sweet sweet time and income and give it to me. Thanks, suckers. Oh, and Yeah.... Save the Planet! *snork*

Posted by: Connected Brother-in-Law at July 06, 2013 08:16 AM (n50fF)

191 186 Age. It be a bitch.

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2013 08:17 AM (M/TDA)

192 Remember, all the commies declared themselves "green" and are in power in europe. It's just another way of separating people from their money.

Posted by: waldo at July 06, 2013 08:18 AM (iv7WQ)

193 When recycling makes economic sense -- then the market will recycle without needing to be ordered by the State.>>

This..  The Amount of energy (Diesel and Human) expended to fetch paper plastic and aluminum is just plain ass stupid. You can mine or drill for these things more efficiently.

Posted by: McGregor at July 06, 2013 08:18 AM (qo244)

194 Metal is worth recycling. Everything else - not so much.

Posted by: Chris M at July 06, 2013 08:19 AM (4lyMJ)

195

Posted by: waldo at July 06, 2013 12:16 PM (iv7WQ)

 

I bitched out a friend of mine once when we were heading to the same place, me in my car, he on his bike.  He road on the street, but didn't stop at any stop signs, we're were traveling perpendicular so I went through one (having arrive several seconds before him to the sign) and he just caroused though it almost sideswiping me.

When we arrived where we going I told him to either be a "fucking pedestrian or a fucking vehicle, not both when it's convenient to you."

He mumbled something about being safer to keep going through stop signs because restarting on a bike is hard in traffic or something.

I said "then you're a pedestrian."

Posted by: tsrblke at July 06, 2013 08:21 AM (GaqMa)

196 Consumer level recycling is, literally, the rich progressive trash ruling class like Al Gore and Obama and John Kerry ordering the average American peasant to spend their free time sifting and sorting through garbage -- so the ruling class can feel better about themselves. It's literally the rich ordering the peasant to manually sort garbage. Cause it makes the ruling class happy when they think about the peasants sorting garbage. Cause the ruling class gets a purity boner when they imagine hundreds of millions of peasant manually sorting garbage. It's incredibly fucked up.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 08:21 AM (ZPrif)

197 Fresh lime in a rum drink. Itching is going away!

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 08:21 AM (wR+pz)

198 Does this mean that the New York Times will have to separated a put into the compost pile?


Posted by: Barney F. at July 06, 2013 08:21 AM (m5Tr1)

199 Most chinese restaurants already recycle what you dont eat. But not in the way Bloomie intends them to.

Posted by: UWP at July 06, 2013 08:21 AM (r98SZ)

200

Posted by: McGregor at July 06, 2013 12:18 PM (qo244)

 

Not true for aluminum! That's why they pay your for cans. (And why aluminum recycling has been a thing for a long time without any government interference.)

Posted by: tsrblke at July 06, 2013 08:21 AM (GaqMa)

201 I'm surprised the ruling class still lets us flush more than once a day.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 08:23 AM (ZPrif)

202

Roaches and mice? Sounds like there was more than yard waste back there.

 

That's a possibility.  But the roaches down here   live anywhere they can find cover.  I have to keep the yard  of Casa Backwardio raked up  (four pine trees): the lizards  love it, cause it's feeding time for them when I do.  It's amazing how  few bugs I have because of it.

 

Oh, and don't let anyone tell you that a palmetto bug is a bug. It's  a rather large cockroach. They  fly and  live in palmetto bushes.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 06, 2013 08:23 AM (0HooB)

203 This.. The Amount of energy (Diesel and Human) expended to fetch paper plastic and aluminum is just plain ass stupid. You can mine or drill for these things more efficiently.
Posted by: McGregor at July 06, 2013 12:18 PM (qo244)

My dad was a wildcatter who developed a string of plastic wells that did well until the bottom dropped out of that market back in Ought-Six. He was smart, tho, and cashed out before the crash. Now all his money's in Arizona paper mines.

Shitting in high cotton? Oh, a tad.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at July 06, 2013 08:24 AM (/lWM8)

204 "New York's infrastructure is decaying, it's municipal services are mediocre at best, crime is rising, traffic is awful (thanks to Bloomberg's bike paths and other assorted anti-car nonsense), and the city is going to spend nonexistent resources on a program that will benefit....who?" Leadership is setting priorities. The liberals in NYC elect leaders who don't have the brains to set priorities. Anyone who voted for Nanny deserves the crime, filth, poor city services, traffic jams, etc. For the ones smart enough to not have voted for the liberals, there's always this: http://tinyurl.com/2wg75cc

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 06, 2013 08:24 AM (DpI6K)

205 Years ago I lived close enough to my job to be able to ride my bike when the weather was nice. I always obeyed the normal traffic laws. Maybe it was a habit from driving cars, or maybe it was because I wasn't a smug hipster douche. Or maybe it was a simple instinct for self-preservation.

Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 08:24 AM (sdi6R)

206 @175 Jersey guy, did you use trash bag to take shower? Oh wait, you are in Jersey, no showers for you.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 08:26 AM (wR+pz)

207

This thread is not sustainable.

 

Time to recycle.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 06, 2013 08:27 AM (1Y+hH)

208 Metal is worth recycling. Everything else - not so much.>>

If I put metals in the garbage isn't the dump just a future profitable mine? Efficency is the question and we waste so much trying to be "green". Poor people are green because of reality the rest of us are green only because of pride.

Posted by: McGregor at July 06, 2013 08:28 AM (qo244)

209 Second siting of a mysterious bright object peaking out of clouds. Going to investigate.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 08:28 AM (wR+pz)

210 As long as NYC remains the financial capital of the world it will be able to afford to do a lot of stupid, wasteful things. It's the smaller, poorer cities that try to copy NYC that really screw themselves.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 08:28 AM (ZPrif)

211 "When recycling makes economic sense -- then the market will recycle without needing to be ordered by the State." Exactly. In Michigan there are people who subsidize their income by going around collecting junk metal from homeowners to sell for scrap. There are also people who make offers to homeowners who've held garage sales to take all their leftovers that they don't want to haul back into the house. They get the stuff for almost nothing, and take it to flea markets.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 06, 2013 08:29 AM (DpI6K)

212 If people won't steal it, it's not worth recycling.

Posted by: Rip van winkin at the 80s at July 06, 2013 08:29 AM (WVMUQ)

213 'Recycling' isn't science, it's Policy. You know. From politicians, filtered through bureaucrats, cronies, and activists. They get theirs, that's all that matters.

Posted by: zsasz at July 06, 2013 08:29 AM (MMC8r)

214 I always defer to cyclists and give them plenty of room. I have no desire to kill or injury anyone. However, I have almost hit a number of cyclists. Why? Because they were not obeying the rules of the road and I could not see them. That's why we have the damn laws to begin with. I won't go into all the ways they almost died but riding the wrong way in the street, riding on the sidewalk and zooming into the street at the last minute to avoid the curb, etc., are a few examples.

Posted by: waldo at July 06, 2013 08:30 AM (iv7WQ)

215 Billy Bob, - Re rain in NC. The weeds are running amok, and I haven't been able to mow the grass in over a week. By the time it dries enough to cut, it's going to be 6" or 7" high.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 08:30 AM (aDwsi)

216

Yes, I was getting about $15 per garbage sack full of cans until the price went down. Hoarding for now.

Sitting on about 90 pounds of copper wire too.  

Posted by: Meremortal at July 06, 2013 08:31 AM (1Y+hH)

217

Are they going to use cheap plastic containers, like S.F., that the rats can chew right through?

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 06, 2013 08:31 AM (SUKHu)

218

141 From what I am hearing from people who actually saw The Lone Ranger, they liked it.

 

We saw it Thursday, and really enjoyed it  - couldn't understand why the critics were all panning it.

 

Then I realized - no "politically correct" platitudes, and no gay characters;  we can't have that, now can we?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 06, 2013 08:32 AM (ADnWI)

219 "Yep, once again progtards steal your sweet sweet time and income and give it to me. Thanks, suckers. Oh, and Yeah.... Save the Planet! *snork* " Posted by: Connected Brother-in-Law This has always been the big joke around Chicago. Whose half wit, 19 year old nephew gets the contract, job?

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 06, 2013 08:32 AM (DpI6K)

220 I don't know how much water I've saved since I started drinking my own urine. Also, my Diet Coke bill is way down.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 06, 2013 08:33 AM (RU5ki)

221 I'm surprised the ruling class still lets us flush more than once a day. Posted by: Flatbush Joe
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That will be controlled by controlling the price of water. It is already being done, in fact.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 08:34 AM (aDwsi)

222

Hey Theresa in FW!  I  saw your Swingle Singers post this morning. That was way kewl.   I was surprised the  group was still in business. 

 

I remember seeing  them on some variety show back in the '60's.  Different folks, I know, but they were great back then too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 06, 2013 08:36 AM (0HooB)

223 220 Mike Hammer,

Invest in rich liberal hides, it'll be a growth market someday soon.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 08:37 AM (LRFds)

224 The Ruling Class ordering the peasants to manually sort garbage is how far we've fallen. Past generations of Americans would have told these modern day Pharaohs to go fuck themselves. I won't be your fucking slave labor.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 08:37 AM (ZPrif)

225 Does anyone remember paper drives? Usually conducted by Boy Scout troops,  or schools.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 08:37 AM (aDwsi)

226

@221 - I was surprised, too BBoy!   Some of their arrangements are available for choral groups; I've sung more than a few of them (back when I was still singing) - they're lots of fun to sing, but can't generally be done by "large" groups.

 

It was cool to find them again :-)

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 06, 2013 08:40 AM (ADnWI)

227 The emphasis on Recycling (PBUH) is also a way for the Ruling Class to distract the peasants so they don't notice they are getting poorer. It's a way to reframe a decline in living standards as an improvement in moral purity.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 08:40 AM (ZPrif)

228 Invest in rich liberal hides, it'll be a growth market someday soon.
Posted by: sven
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I have pondered that, but I am told that the pelts are particularly smelly..., they reek, in fact.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 08:40 AM (aDwsi)

229 You aren't getting less popular - you're appeal is just getting more selective.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 08:41 AM (ZPrif)

230 In your mouth. And you will like it.

Posted by: Nanny Bloomberg at July 06, 2013 08:41 AM (Aif/5)

231

Uh, we recycled or reused everything because the grandparents and parents remembered the Depression and they were cheap.  Never spend money you don't have to spend.  No fireworks or comic books either, waste of money.

We had a slop bucket on the back steps because grampa had 4-5 hogs in a pen out by the barn.

 

You are requested to vacate my sod.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 06, 2013 08:41 AM (Gswof)

232 @214 My shrubs are so big they are bending over. I am in a trout club on the Yadkin River. We have four fords to cross. Max water level is 120 CFS to cross, this morning it was 900 CFS! My house is wooden with cedar shakes. The moss on them looks like I am in Asheville. I have 10 damn damp aid bags hanging in my closets. This shit is getting old. Mt Island lake to overflow dam this afternoon. The mysterious bright object has disappeared again.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 08:42 AM (wR+pz)

233 Does anyone remember paper drives? Usually conducted by Boy Scout troops, or schools.>>

Yes the memory of an overloaded  Jeep Wagoneer is etched in my boyscout memory,

Posted by: McGregor at July 06, 2013 08:43 AM (qo244)

234 We use to pay taxes for services such as garbage and yard waste pickup. But now we have to pay for those things separately because our taxes are needed to teach people how to apply for welfare.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at July 06, 2013 08:43 AM (29vnO)

235

It was cool to find them again :-)

 

I'm certain you watched   the other vids by them at the end. Their arrangement of   The Beatles' Blackbirds/I  Will  was awesome.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 06, 2013 08:44 AM (0HooB)

236 sven - I almost used 'stenchy' to describe lib hides, but decided that it simply isn't good usage. Doing a search on it, I found this quote from someone, which seems to apply to the composting question :
"No, I mean pure stinking stenchy rubbish, the rotting sort that has greeny-yellowy water running out of it as it decomposes into a turgid pile of bubbling slop."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 08:44 AM (aDwsi)

237 227 Mike Hammer,

generous liberal application of acid, and other petrol based solvents helps....

"burning man" quite literal in fact

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 08:45 AM (LRFds)

238

 

the only thing recycling programs have done where I live is to bring in tons of homeless people pushing shopping carts through the neighborhood  picking out the bottles and cans from the bins which has also  lead to a  noticable increase in petty crime over the last few years.it got so bad that the city was losing money because the homeless where picking the recycle bins clean ans had to crack down on the people "stealing" from the bins.

Posted by: kj at July 06, 2013 08:45 AM (kw7uo)

239 Stenchy, I think "malodorous" is a more melodic rendering....

we simply must show our betters that we have a much broader vocabulary than they credit us with.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 08:46 AM (LRFds)

240 "No, I mean pure stinking stenchy rubbish, the rotting sort that has greeny-yellowy water running out of it as it decomposes into a turgid pile of bubbling slop." Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 12:44 PM (aDwsi) According to my son that is called "Mung Water".

Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 06, 2013 08:46 AM (Gswof)

241 O/T NY Slime has new story about Egypt. Rice and Patterson were involved in the coup. Liberals heads to explode! Somehow this will have to be Boosh's fault. But how, oh me oh my, how?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 08:46 AM (wR+pz)

242 Second siting of a mysterious bright object peaking out of clouds. Going to investigate. Posted by: Billy Bob
------------------------

Must be 151 rum your chasing that itch with.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 08:48 AM (4Mv1T)

243 @241 Mt Gay.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 08:48 AM (wR+pz)

244 They are trying to recycle a politician from disgraced congressman to mayor. But will still end up as trash.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at July 06, 2013 08:50 AM (c6tHt)

245 BackwardsBoy. I moved a friend to Jacksonville many years ago and got introduced to said Palmetto Bugs moving him into to his apt. We squooshed one with a newspaper. Critter kept wiggling. Friend said, "Quick. Get my .357 from the car."

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 08:51 AM (4Mv1T)

246 Mt Gay.
 Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal>>

Wow is the closet really that dark?

Posted by: McGregor at July 06, 2013 08:51 AM (qo244)

247 Rats. I wish TR was here, I could follow up "..the rotting sort that has greeny-yellowy water running out of it..." , with, "..or as it called in eastern NC, barbecue sauce.."


Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 08:53 AM (aDwsi)

248 "Not true for aluminum! That's why they pay your for cans. (And why aluminum recycling has been a thing for a long time without any government interference.)"

That's what a lot of people think, but it ain't so. Long article in the Atlantic, about 20 years ago. It would actually be cheaper to make beer cans out of steel, because the steel can be made much thinner, and would rust to nothing in a land fill. However, the Great State of California mandates that they be made out of aluminum. Since no one wants to give up the California market, they use aluminum.

Why does California require cans be made out of aluminum? So the recyclers can make money. I kid you not.

Posted by: Jerome at July 06, 2013 08:54 AM (eQa5p)

249 @245 http://tinyurl.com/yh9nuo

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 08:54 AM (wR+pz)

250 Ha! He IS here... (ducks)

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 08:54 AM (aDwsi)

251 Does anyone remember paper drives? Usually conducted by Boy Scout troops, or schools.>> ---- I used to deliver a newspaper called "Life News" in San Diego as a teen. It was a free newspaper, and they paid me to give it to every house. Needless to say, being lazy, among other things, 99% of those newspapers ended up going to the paper recycling, still in the bundles. Would deliver a few way in the corner of some yards so the guy checking would see them. And what do you know - I'm still an asshole.

Posted by: UWP at July 06, 2013 08:55 AM (r98SZ)

252 BBQ?  Where??

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 08:55 AM (4Mv1T)

253 251 BBQ? Where?? None worth a shit in CLT. Did you all see old man Parker, of Parker's BBQ in Wilson died last week?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 08:57 AM (wR+pz)

254 The one upside of composting is it makes throwing away your trash in those tiny trash cans they give you now, much easier.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at July 06, 2013 08:57 AM (q177U)

255 Just got back from the hardware store 20 minutes ago. I never find what I go there for but always come home with something else. Is it just me?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 08:58 AM (4Mv1T)

256 Billy Bob -- I've been trying to think of the Take-out-only shop in Charlotte known for their fried chicken. Does that ring any bells?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 08:58 AM (aDwsi)

257 Why does California require cans be made out of aluminum? So the recyclers can make money. I kid you not. Crony politics. Another California Success Story.

Posted by: zsasz at July 06, 2013 08:59 AM (MMC8r)

258 Bloomberg has only so much time left before he has to hand over the destruction of the city to be Wienered...

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 06, 2013 08:59 AM (Vk2pI)

259 254 Just got back from the hardware store 20 minutes ago. I never find what I go there for but always come home with something else. Is it just me? Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 12:58 PM (4Mv1T) Nope, but never go to a Costco, sometimes TV's and computers will "fall" into your cart. It's happened to me and I was too embarrassed to put them back.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 08:59 AM (wR+pz)

260

BackwardsBoy. I moved a friend to Jacksonville many years ago and got introduced to said Palmetto Bugs moving him into to his apt. We squooshed one with a newspaper. Critter kept wiggling. Friend said, "Quick. Get my .357 from the car."

 

What Texans call "cowboy  boots" we call "roach  stompers." The toes are pointed so we can  corral the    bastards in the corner and squish 'em.   Or rather "crack" 'em, cause that's the sound they make.

 

I learned early on that the first steps of moving in was a thorough  caulking of any interior   holes or spaces (including that foam stuff),  followed by  spraying.  Then you clean, then you move. Then you spray again.  It's  a lot of work, but it pays off in the long run.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 06, 2013 09:00 AM (0HooB)

261 None worth a shit in CLT.

Did you all see old man Parker, of Parker's BBQ in Wilson died last week? Posted by: Billy Bob
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Didn't see that. I do like the Hickory House on North Tryon. Used to stop in when headed to see the folks when they lived in south Charlotte.

Brunswick stew is different and better than any I ever had elsewhere.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 09:00 AM (4Mv1T)

262 255 Billy Bob -- I've been trying to think of the Take-out-only shop in Charlotte known for their fried chicken. Does that ring any bells? Prices. He died last week too. Parker and Price both in their late 80's.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 09:01 AM (wR+pz)

263 Bear vs. Plane - who wins? I think I read that when the pilot went to pick up Treadwell and his girlfriend, the bear chased him to his plane but didn't attack once he was inside. If it did, he might of been in big trouble: http://goo.gl/5Mcp5

Posted by: waldo at July 06, 2013 09:02 AM (iv7WQ)

264 @260 I was at Hickory House last week. The sauce is too sweet, but they do have cold beer. The stew has corn in it and I think some bread.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 09:03 AM (wR+pz)

265 We have those stupid bins where I live: trash, recycle and compost. When they came there were warnings of heavy fines. Observed the pickup. Truck comes, grabber grabs bin and flings stuff into the truck. Driver does not even get out of his van. Been using all three as one big trash can for years and the trash one is the smallest of the three. Two different companies, two different trucks per week.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at July 06, 2013 09:03 AM (RXQ2T)

266 I've been trying to think of the Take-out-only shop in Charlotte known for their fried chicken
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Price's Chicken Coop

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 09:03 AM (4Mv1T)

267 Just got back from the hardware store 20 minutes ago. I never find what I go there for but always come home with something else. Is it just me?
Posted by: Tobacco Road
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No. And it pisses me off. I would say that the stuff I need is so esoteric that I should not expect them to have it, but I know that is not true. It's just that the 'hardware' stores cater to inexperienced former hippies who are looking for CFL's or organic bug repellant. I end up bundling orders from McMaster-Carr with friends to save shipping costs. 

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 09:04 AM (aDwsi)

268 The stew has corn in it and I think some bread. Posted by: Billy Bob
-------------------------

That's their secret for making it thick like they do. They collect the unused Texas toast, toast it up hard, chop it up, and it "melts" in the stew while cooking. That's how they did it 25 years ago anyway.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 09:05 AM (4Mv1T)

269 It's a lot of work, but it pays off in the long run. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 06, 2013 01:00 PM (0HooB) FL is the only state I ever lived in where I needed a pest control guy to come by monthly. Wife once trapped a "tarantula" monster level spider under a bucket and the darn thing was pounding on the bucket trying to get out until I got home to hasten its demise.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 06, 2013 09:05 AM (Cnqmv)

270 141 From what I am hearing from people who actually saw The Lone Ranger, they liked it. I saw it yesterday. Enjoyable summer flick, I was consistently entertained and never bored throughout. Plus, some great action set pieces. 2nd act is a bit weak. But, starts and finished very strong. The Lone Ranger character's arc is very similar to Jimmy Stewart's character arc in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence. ***very mild spoiler*** TMWSLV is the better movie by far but the character development really pays off when Reid finally accepts the necessity of a "Lone Ranger" role and the William Tell Overture kicks in in the finale. Those of you who've read Frank Norris' "The Octopus" will notice they borrowed that villain's fate in a sideways manner and a lot of his character. ***end of mild Spoiler*** Yep, the critics( PC herd animals that they are) are wrong again.

Posted by: Somewhat Sorry To Offend You at July 06, 2013 09:06 AM (n50fF)

271 Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 01:04 PM (aDwsi) I know of one Ace that stocks almost everything I ever need. Unfortunately, it is nowhere near me.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 06, 2013 09:07 AM (Cnqmv)

272 Price's Chicken Coop
------------------

Yep. That's it.
I have a friend who was being transported home by ambulance home from Carolinas Medical Center and made the ambulance stop there to get him a take-out order.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 09:07 AM (aDwsi)

273

OK, urban compostistas, I gotta run some errands.   The Firecracker 400  is tonight and I'm contemplating  grilling some burgers. Alcohol may be involved.

 

Y'all have fun and try  not to trash  the place,   'k?

 

But if you do, recycle the pudding cups.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 06, 2013 09:07 AM (0HooB)

274 @267 Nothing has changed in 30 years at Hickory House, except they have some new slutty old women with big tits serving you. They use to at least serve shit hot, last time I was there everything was luke warm except the beer.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 09:08 AM (wR+pz)

275 @271 "The Coop" http://tinyurl.com/kb9fl5v

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 09:12 AM (wR+pz)

276 It's just that the 'hardware' stores cater to inexperienced former hippies who are looking for CFL's or organic bug repellant. I end up bundling orders from McMaster-Carr with friends to save shipping costs.>>

Not all hardware stores are equal. I found a set of leathers for a hand pump* at the one by our cabin,
*http://tinyurl.com/5cagyy

Posted by: McGregor at July 06, 2013 09:12 AM (qo244)

277 "This is stupidity on a grand scale."

All the more appropriate for New York.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at July 06, 2013 09:14 AM (9+PGS)

278 The only bad about the "coop"? Those hush puppies cold are like hard bricks and don't heat up worth a shit.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 09:14 AM (wR+pz)

279 Or put it this way If it is worth recycling, drug addicts will do it for you for free.

Posted by: tmitsss at July 06, 2013 09:15 AM (rIn+3)

280 New one up.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 09:19 AM (4Mv1T)

281 Austin, TX is doing the same nonsense right now. If it has been done in nyc, san fran, seattle, etc, the LIBTARDS here want it. Plastic bag bans, recycling, and now forced composting to come next year. Austin is 100 square miles of lib fantasy land surrounded by reality.

Posted by: RobertM at July 06, 2013 09:25 AM (061WW)

282 A really good way to recycle compostable materials is to incinerate it. The carbon becomes carbon dioxide and the hydrogen becomes water and the nitrogen becomes nitrogen oxides. The Earth's ecosystems have been recycling these guys for billions of years. Nothing could be more natural to do.

Posted by: eman at July 06, 2013 09:38 AM (AO9UG)

283 As big fan of composting and somebody who practices it whenever I can, I could not agree with this post more.

Bloomberg's plan is right up there with some whacked-out policy the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot would have come up with.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at July 06, 2013 09:48 AM (OjM8s)

284 Urgent notice for citizens of NYC, in effect immediately:
Please empty chamber pots at precisely 5am each and every morning in addition to composting all of your food from your rooftop gardens, raised organically, of course as fines for pesticides are still in effect and always will be, forevermore.

There will be a fine if you do not comply with potential risk of becoming the clean up crew with the rest of the dissenters (snow shovels are used year-round, fueled by composted human waste, as this is the cycle of life). It may take a week for each street in each borough, do not complain to this office. If you complain it is expected for you to have a shovel and put up or shut up.

As you know, sewers are no longer functioning due to global warming. You will adjust to the smell. Beware of walking on sidewalks at 5am as there is risk of fall-out and potential morbidity and mortality of excrement emptied from taller buildings. The 5am morning call from local mosque will call you to your prayers and chamber pot.

Posted by: Nanny Bloomberg at July 06, 2013 09:53 AM (baL2B)

285 What happened to the hard-nosed, !hell-no! New Yorkers who didn't take crap from people?  It's bad enough that they tolerate all the do-gooder Nannyism to promote health (even as promoting actual public health initiatives seems to be in decline for fear of offending third world notions of cleanliness), but this tide of bullscheisse is interfering with moneymaking, and THAT is just plain Un-Knickerbockerly. 

Posted by: All Hail Eris at July 06, 2013 10:15 AM (hiIie)

286 John Galt, call your office...

Posted by: leelu at July 06, 2013 10:25 AM (3+S0v)

287 They need a czar that comes along and says that the first 20 people/companies that sign up 'to help' can't be paid/hired.  (see: Al Gore)

Follow the money....then cut it off.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 06, 2013 10:26 AM (X/+QT)

288 Oh, the composting movement is all over, not just NYC. It's not enough that some companies will actually pay you for your compost--no, we all should be forced to spend half a day on our garbage duties and cleaning duties necessitated by poor EPA-built appliances and soaps.

And don't get me started on bedbugs, mosquitoes and pesticides.

Posted by: PJ at July 06, 2013 10:32 AM (ZWaLo)

289 Waste Management built a huge digester in Southeast Portland Oregon back in the 90's. All the yuppies were orgasmic with joy about how wonderful it was going to be to run all their garbage through the digester so the organics could be composted out and reduce what they sent to the landfill at the other end of the Columbia gorge near Arlington. As soon as they fired it up, the whole neighborhood went into revolution mode over the smell and forced the city to shut it down. So, important safety tip, if you want to compost the garbage form a big city? Either locate the composter outside the city somewhere or get ready for a LOT of smell.

Posted by: Dacotti at July 06, 2013 10:36 AM (eGl81)

290 I can't wait for the GODZILLA sized RATS!

Posted by: Stephana at July 06, 2013 10:40 AM (nfC6Z)

291 I have a rose garden and bought a compost tumbler that was pretty expensive, it was supposed to make compost in two weeks if I remember correctly. It didn't and I was glad to get rid of the monstrosity when the middle piece rotted. People can't stand for this nonsense.

Posted by: CarolT at July 06, 2013 10:45 AM (z4WKX)

292 211 If people won't steal it, it's not worth recycling. Posted by: Rip van winkin at the 80s at July 06, 2013 12:29 PM (WVMUQ) Words of wisdom.

Posted by: KDC at July 06, 2013 10:57 AM (52lRC)

293 Composting really isn't a bad idea until the "gummit" gets involved. I think the role of "gummit" should be to defend our borders and protect us from invasion. Other than that STFU! I compost on a regular basis, VOLUNTARILY. I throw in the lawn clippings, leaf rakings, leftover veggie peelings, Chicken, duck and goose doo doo and make a real fine mix and till thatr into the gardens. Did you know leaf rakings and lawn clippings make up 30% of landfill. I even compost the paper I don't burn in the woodstove. I remove horse doo from a libtards farm for free. I till that in too. That is pure equine , compost gold there! My vegetable gardens are immaculate now. I grow melons the size of scorpion tanks! Who else is composting?

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at July 06, 2013 11:05 AM (nWBvT)

294 Jersey guy, did you use trash bag to take shower? Oh wait, you are in Jersey, no showers for you.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 12:26 PM (wR+pz)

No because I AM from NJ, I'm coordinated enough to to have not gotten my cast wet. You must be thinking of  Kentucky. ;-) Besides, we actually have showers IN the house here, so the water pressure is controllable. And the itching? I used canned compressed air shot through the cast to alleviate the itch. That's just the engineer in me, I guess. ;-)  Having a "Shower Massage"  instead of a fixed shower head made the ordeal easier. Luckily, the ordeal was only a little over a month and a half. Went back to work as soon as the half cast was placed on my arm. Not much manual labor in what I do, so there was no problem.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 06, 2013 11:14 AM (TPimP)

295 "Our tomatoes hate it, and show their displeasure by not growing." Best fertilizer for tomatoes is wood fire ash mixed in with soil and then piss on it.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 06, 2013 11:49 AM (AVaK2)

296 "24 And New Yorkers continue to believe they are superior to the rest of us. I would agree if by superior, they mean stupider, more infantile and more insane." Actually no. Don't blame the entire city, for the insanity of the inhabitants of Manhattan Island and various other hipster enclaves scattered around the city.

Posted by: Mike Giles at July 06, 2013 12:54 PM (I5QYG)

297 Uh, there are  more than a hundred working farms on Staten Island which, unless I missed the war of secession, is still a borough of New York City. No rolling waves of grain, but boutique growers of organic arugula and other snooty produce for the localvore jackasses.

Shhhh... don't tell them only a thin layer of topsoil separated their stupid organic crap from toxic municipal landfills.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at July 06, 2013 12:58 PM (a5ljo)

298 I have a compost bin, back by the alley. Beginning every spring, I build up a pile of weeds, kitchen waste, coffee grounds, leaves, and other such stuff. I turned it over every few weeks, and keep it nice and wet; when I sink a spade into it, a puff of steam comes out. By autumn, I cook up about a cubic yard of compost, which I dig into my vegetable gardens. I don't buy fertilizer - I don't need it.

Should this be mandatory? No. Is it a good idea? That depends on whether you have a use for compost.

IMHO, the fascists who are promoting mandatory composting should be asked one simple question: Are you composting your organic waste now? If the answer is 'no', they should be told, politely but firmly, to fuck off.

Posted by: Brown Line at July 06, 2013 03:31 PM (a5bF3)

299 98 Bike lanes cause congestion? I like how you just throw that out there as though it's axiomatic.

Posted by: ronsfi



Dunno how it's gone in NYC, but my town put some bike lanes in.  It acted as a magnet for cyclists to travel on the two busiest roads in town, where they promptly proceeded and continue to ignore the hell out of traffic signals and lane boundaries.  A good 40-50% of the time I see a cyclist in the zone with bike lanes, they're in the main car lane; usually with nobody else visible down the entire stretch in the bike lane.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at July 06, 2013 08:18 PM (G99e4)

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