June 12, 2013
— Ace

A simple observation by Jonah Goldberg.
The contradictions at the heart of the Obama presidency are finally out in the open. As a result, a man who came into office hell-bent on restoring faith in government is on the verge of inspiring a libertarian revival.There have always been (at least) two Barack Obamas. There is the man who claims to be a nonideological problem-solver, keen on working with anybody to fix things. And there is “The One”: the partisan, left-leaning progressive redeemer.As E. J. Dionne, a columnist who can usually be counted on to make the case for Obama better than Obama can, recently wrote, the president “has been a master, as good politicians are, at presenting different sides of himself to different constituencies. In 2008, he was the man who would bring us together by overcoming the deep mistrust between red and blue America and the champion of progressive change, the liberal answer to Ronald Reagan.”
Doc Zero discusses it further.
Obama critics have long marveled at his ability to flip from the bitterly divisive hyper-partisan who tosses chunks of bloody meat to the left-wing faithful, casually demonizing his opponents as subversives (or, on issues like gun control, outright monsters)... into the bridge building reach-across-the-aisle seeker of good ideas that the media loves to swoon over. Naturally, every politician would love to be able to do this, but only Democrats are allowed to. Bill Clinton still gets all sorts of undeserved praise for his alleged "centrism" - he's the father of welfare reform, don't you know! - but he was also a pioneer in modern dark art of personal destruction....
Some of the dichotomy between Obama's two faces can be resolved by remembering that to the President and his personality cult, expunging those evil conservative insurgents from policy discussions is "non-ideological." There is no ideology but theirs, and it takes whatever shape the Great Leader assigns at the current moment.
Actually, of course, that's inaptly phrased; he means there's no "ideology" but that of "extremists" who "seek to impose their agenda-fueled ideology on the ideology-free Rationalists and Problem-Solvers.
Obama can only do this, as Zero says, thanks to the media. That's how Barack Obama could be, in 2008, both a peacenik who wanted to end wars and a Dogged Terrorist-Fighter who wanted to bring the war to terrorists like it had never been brought before; that's how he could be a man who both wanted to raise taxes and raise spending but could also challenge McCain from the right on deficit reduction.
None of this made any sense at the time. It still doesn't.
But the media knows it's hard to beat someone who is on all sides of an issue. It may be difficult to beat someone who promises to give out free government goodies; it's impossible to beat someone who promises to give out free government goodies and also cut government spending, too.
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2013 09:59 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: seaniep at June 12, 2013 09:59 AM (mHol2)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2013 10:00 AM (+98Gb)
Um, newsflash. It was a lie from the start. He was never hell-bent on restoring faith in government. He was hell-bent on ruling government and maintaining faith amongst sycophants.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 12, 2013 10:01 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: joncelli at June 12, 2013 10:01 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: USA at June 12, 2013 10:01 AM (VIaw0)
Would Obama have been nearly as successful had he been a populist from Iowa, with the attendant blonde hair and blue eyes and American sounding name?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 12, 2013 10:01 AM (WW8xK)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 12, 2013 10:03 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2013 10:03 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Yip at June 12, 2013 10:03 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: notachanceinhell at June 12, 2013 10:03 AM (jJA/4)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 12, 2013 10:03 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: © Sponge at June 12, 2013 10:04 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: Yip at June 12, 2013 02:03 PM (/jHWN)
Let me be clear: We reject the old, outdated idea that you can't eat your cake and have it too.
Posted by: Bronco Bama at June 12, 2013 10:04 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 12, 2013 10:05 AM (qRasw)
Posted by: soothsayer at June 12, 2013 10:05 AM (LL42r)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 12, 2013 10:05 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: John Galt at June 12, 2013 02:04 PM (SCcgT)
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**golfclap**
Well played sir. Well played indeed.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 12, 2013 10:06 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 12, 2013 10:06 AM (eHIJJ)
If we offer him those things for life, will he just go away?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 12, 2013 02:05 PM (/PCJa)
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Nope,
Posted by: notachanceinhell at June 12, 2013 10:07 AM (jJA/4)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at June 12, 2013 10:07 AM (da5Wo)
"But the media knows it's hard to beat someone who is on all sides of an issue."
The media don't believe any such thing, they know that they maketh the man. He is their creature and will stay that way until they decide to call it quits.
Posted by: Decaf at June 12, 2013 10:07 AM (AAOE/)
Posted by: Yip at June 12, 2013 10:07 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: © Sponge at June 12, 2013 10:08 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: DeepBeam at June 12, 2013 10:08 AM (eKWTg)
Would Obama have been nearly as successful had he been a populist from Iowa, with the attendant blonde hair and blue eyes and American sounding name?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 12, 2013 02:01 PM (WW8xK)
He's good at getting votes by making people think he's something other than what he is, starting with that dogshit speech he gave at the 2004 donk convention which was nothing but a pack of lies. As far as being a good politician in terms of getting things passed, I don't even think he rises to the level of adequate. He's never done a fucking thing to get one vote from the opposition; all he's done on his own side is bribe people. As much as I hate Slick and thought he was a miserable President during which the country declined badly, at least he showed some decent political skills in getting NAFTA passed. The JEF hasn't come close to anything like that.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 12, 2013 10:09 AM (nHIEV)
"None of this made any sense at the time. It still doesn't. "
Yes and no.
It makes perfect sense if you recognize - and I find it astounding that it is STILL not clear to everyone by now - that Obama is a pathological liar who will tell you whatever will get him in your good graces without ever having intended to follow through. "Reach-across-the-aisle"? Hell, he doesn't even reach out to his OWN side of the aisle - he considers himself ABOVE it. McCain was asked (a few months ago) whether there's any friction between him and Obama - whether they can "rise above", so to speak. He said he's barely ever been over to the WH to speak with Obama (and nobody else has either - not even Dems).
People just can't bring themselves to believe that the President is a lying socialist SOB, but the facts are clear. Hell, whenever he actually tells the truth about something (like calling the US the greatest nation on Earth, or something) it's a good bet he either doesn't mean it, or is kinda pissed about it.
Posted by: Optimizer at June 12, 2013 10:09 AM (Mxt9o)
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I don't think there's anything uncanny about it all.
I too, could get way with standing on a podium and proclaiming "it's a great sunshine-y day with all these clouds and rain".
... if the press never called me on it.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 12, 2013 10:09 AM (nELVU)
Only the tards would not pay attention to the real two faces of Obama and not be able to tell one is a fraud.
Its really should be called the two sides of Obama.
His talking side and his action side. Everyone knows the old saying but apparently they ignored it.
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2013 10:10 AM (m2CN7)
*shakes magic eight ball* Should I play golf today, or LOL at all those morons emails and necked selfies...
Posted by: notachanceinhell at June 12, 2013 10:10 AM (jJA/4)
"oh come on, all he wanted was taxpayer funded vacations and free golf
If we offer him those things for life, will he just go away?"
No, that is not enough. He wants the White House to party with his Hollywood pals and Air Force 1 to buzz New York when he feels like it. The rest is a bore and a chore.
Posted by: Decaf at June 12, 2013 10:11 AM (AAOE/)
Posted by: Soledad O'Brien's earpiece at June 12, 2013 10:11 AM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 12, 2013 10:12 AM (pT3XC)
Posted by: JohnKerryIsADoucheBag at June 12, 2013 10:12 AM (6sqK6)
Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2013 10:12 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2013 10:13 AM (xorT2)
Posted by: kreplach at June 12, 2013 10:13 AM (Z9BWx)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at June 12, 2013 02:07 PM (da5Wo)
Which idiot is it today?
Posted by: buzzion at June 12, 2013 10:13 AM (LI48c)
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If Obama were white..... Hillary would be president.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 12, 2013 10:14 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 12, 2013 10:14 AM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: GardenGnome at June 12, 2013 10:14 AM (gbD0f)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at June 12, 2013 10:15 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 12, 2013 10:15 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2013 10:16 AM (xorT2)
But the media knows it's hard to beat someone who is on all sides of an issue. It may be difficult to beat someone who promises to give out free government goodies; it's impossible to beat someone who promises to give out free government goodies and also cut government spending, too.
The media has allowed Obammy to pretend he's an unattached outsider who has no connection to the inner workings of Capitol Hill DESPITE THE FACT HE'S BEEN PRESIDENT FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 12, 2013 10:16 AM (4df7R)
None of his actions prior to him becoming President supported even an inkling of a nonideological problem-solver, keen on working with anybody to fix things.
Not one iota. From his voting record when he didn't vote present to his ideological rants and the company he kept. I don't even think his rhetoric while running for President was nonideological. It was always leftists in its content. Ask Joe the Plumber or his wife who for the first time was proud to be an American. Can someone point me to these supposed neutral speeches? I think its a myth and been repeated so much some on the right even think it happened.
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2013 10:17 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 12, 2013 10:17 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at June 12, 2013 10:17 AM (wbmaj)
And once again, even in a roundabout journalistic tapdance, what we have been saying all along is true. This regime and the MFM are one and the same. Nothing seperates them.
We won't win anything anymore until one or the other is taken down. This is a good follow-up to the previous thread.
Posted by: Soona at June 12, 2013 10:17 AM (MhjjL)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2013 10:18 AM (xorT2)
Goldberg and Doc Zero again show one other aspect of America's degradation: sub-mediocre to dumb pundits (very much incl. the "right").
Bambi is an utterly uninteresting, unfit, and incapable guy - only a pathetically degraded audience/electorate/"media" would have paid the slightest attention to someone as unaccomplished, bizarrely narcissistic (two autobiographies by someone who'd never done anything and had nothing to say?), and clearly of limited intellect as he is clueless enough to absorb and believe the idiotic racist soft-fascist nonsense that passes for "ideology" in his circles.
One embedded point here. "Restore trust in government". One of the zillion absurdly false implied assumptions that have made the public square and of course "the press" an orwellian absurdity that must be dismissed at the outset to have an intelligent discussion. There was no general crisis of "distrust in government" in 2008.
There was the ignorant, unintelligent, pathetic hysteria of much of the electorate over wars they didn't understand, and which they supported when they followed a B-movie script trajectory of painless instant success. The NPR-dumb populace believed the federal response to Katrina was a "scandal" - absurd, in every last detail. There was disgust and fury over Bush's arrogant, racist, insane, and disastrous amnesty push. There was confusion (again, linked to the collapse of any real press and the ignorance of the "high-information" voters) about what really happened with the real estate and derivative crisis. "Trust in government" in any meaningful specific sense was not even an issue.
Even "conservative" types seem to lack the discipline, the time, or the rigorous habits of thought to at least reset the discussion back to the "Reality" setting when they start to analyze things. Ninety percent of the implicit and explicit factual assumptions of just about every public policy issue are false, most of them obviously and extravagantly so.
Obama couldn't work as an intern for me, in any job I've had. Not smart enough, astonishingly unworldly, not articulate, and clearly un- and mis-educated in a way that is shocking in someone of his age.
Posted by: non-purist at June 12, 2013 10:18 AM (afQnV)
"... It may be difficult to beat someone who promises to give out free government goodies; it's impossible to beat someone who promises to give out free government goodies and also cut government spending, too."
Yeah, well, Romney had the white vote something like 2:1, didn't he? The remainder of the voters - especially the black voters - voted in such disproportionate numbers (despite how they have suffered more than anybody) that "free goodies" doesn't explain it, at all. Everybody knew Obama was bad for the economy (even if some didn't want to admit it). They just really liked what color he wasn't, and the sooner we come to terms on that the better we will be able to correctly respond to it.
It's like the war on terror. We don't believe in holy wars, but guess what? If the other guy does, you're going to find yourself in a holy war just the same. Likewise, we don't believe in racism (to put it poorly). A certain segment of the population has been declared immune from being racist, and so that has been a blank check for them to be as racist as they want without anybody saying anything about it. Those "chickens have come home to roost."
Posted by: Optimizer at June 12, 2013 10:19 AM (Mxt9o)
Posted by: Big T Party at June 12, 2013 10:19 AM (WiQr+)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at June 12, 2013 02:18 PM (wbmaj)
apparently, drug resistant crotch fungus among us
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at June 12, 2013 10:19 AM (kXoT0)
This is the main fight and we need to do it now. We need to organize and boycott / replace / buy out the media.
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You left out "burn" which I think is really what it's going to take.
Posted by: Soona at June 12, 2013 10:21 AM (MhjjL)
It's jwest. I've just gotten tired of his "No- its your fault! If you would just sit back and think of England, those elected Republicans would take care of it all!"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 12, 2013 02:15 PM (/PCJa)
Its hilarious for that pathetic idiot to whine about fighting the democrats when he's been doing nothing but caving to the democrat positions just because they've managed to get some idiot republicans on board as well.
But then again he is nuts with his desire to kill everyone that has cancer.
Posted by: buzzion at June 12, 2013 10:21 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2013 10:21 AM (g1DWB)
"Jerry, just remember. It's not a lie... if you believe it..." - G. Costanza
No difference. Both illustrate characters knowingly using lies, outright lies, to manipulate others and to selfishly acquire what they want. It's the inner demon and central to a narcissist. The caveat? Costanza was just a fiction.
Actually, there's still no difference. Obama is also a fiction (of media) except he's loose in the real world.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 12, 2013 10:21 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at June 12, 2013 02:16 PM (4df7R)
I sit in stunned amazement when brainless turds like F Chuck, Monkeyboy Gregory and Trandrea just sit there nodding like Meeka the bobblehead when he pulls this shit. It's the emperor's new clothes in HD, 3D and every other fucking D.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 12, 2013 10:21 AM (nHIEV)
Posted by: non-purist at June 12, 2013 02:18 PM (afQnV)
Back before the 2008 election, mostly at Lucianne, I posted over and over again that with his vaporware resume, he could not get hired for any junior management trainee program existent at the time--EVEN with 10 point bumps each for his race and an Ivy League eduation. For one thing, he could not have passed the drug tests.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at June 12, 2013 10:22 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at June 12, 2013 10:22 AM (Nl4r1)
"Would Obama have been nearly as successful had he been a populist from Iowa, with the attendant blonde hair and blue eyes and American sounding name?
Would Obama have been nearly as successful had he been Dan Quayle? "
He is the personification of multiculturalism, ticking almost all the boxes that liberals find sacred. Only a physical disability would have made him more perfect to his adulators.
Posted by: Decaf at June 12, 2013 10:22 AM (AAOE/)
Posted by: stuiec at June 12, 2013 10:23 AM (WSrt9)
Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2013 10:23 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: soothsayer at June 12, 2013 10:23 AM (hNqVf)
Posted by: Decaf at June 12, 2013 02:22 PM (AAOE/)
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Well, judging by his wedge shot, jump shot, and bowling game...... it's there somewhere.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 12, 2013 10:24 AM (nELVU)
Only a physical disability would have made him more perfect to his adulators.
Hmmm...given his demonstrated sports 'abilities', I think he's got that covered.
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at June 12, 2013 10:24 AM (NF2Bf)
Posted by: John Gillispie at June 12, 2013 10:25 AM (sPO/s)
If only. He'll be with us like Superclap. He'll be a younger, more catastrophic ex-Pres. than Carter and that takes some real effort.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 12, 2013 10:25 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2013 02:18 PM (xorT2)
I'm in.
Posted by: trainer says HI to the NSA at June 12, 2013 10:25 AM (K5X44)
Posted by: soothsayer at June 12, 2013 10:25 AM (ZCAlb)
http://tinyurl.com/l53jsz2
J severin just interviewed this guy out of the box just as his program started. It's worth listening when they repeat.
Posted by: caustic at June 12, 2013 10:25 AM (/b8+5)
It also let's you play basketball like LeBron or Durant while using a ladder and everyone else stays behind the half-court line. Take away the shuckin', jivin', cheatin', and lyin', the brother ain't good for much.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at June 12, 2013 10:26 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: t-bird at June 12, 2013 10:26 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: thunderb at June 12, 2013 10:26 AM (6d7HA)
"I'm tired of the analysis of this man, he's a disaster.
The sad thing is we'll be dealing with him for next 3.5 years."
And for years and years after when he will be stirring the pot and making as much trouble as possible.
What makes you think he won't have a sort of government in exile with the media going to him for a reaction to every issue?
Posted by: Decaf at June 12, 2013 10:28 AM (AAOE/)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2013 10:28 AM (XYSwB)
Please don't overthink it
Bongo gets the Perpetual Free Pass from PC-whiteguilt progtards of all stripes since he's (half) Black, an illegal, a closeted Muslim and in all likelihood a practitioner of the Love which previously wouldn't make a peep but now can't STFU and STFD. He's black ! transnational! and Fabulous !
Ideology trumps Reality, always, In Crystal-Gazing Leftopia
So ... ummm .... howdatshitworkinforya, yo
Accountability and integrity in the Executive ? Never heard of it
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at June 12, 2013 10:28 AM (rQc34)
Posted by: Bronco Bama at June 12, 2013 10:29 AM (hHgxI)
http://tinyurl.com/lebskp9
Posted by: caustic at June 12, 2013 02:27 PM (/b8+5)
My new Congress Critter. He was only one of 9 to vote against Boehner for Speaker. New CC in Second District may be a keeper as well, Markwayne Mullins.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at June 12, 2013 10:30 AM (kXoT0)
And now we're enemies of the state... the government has evolved into an enabler and gift giver as long as you stay in line, vote for them. You won't succeed, but you won't starve. Know your place.
Posted by: Yip at June 12, 2013 10:30 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: kreplach at June 12, 2013 02:13 PM (Z9BWx)
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If only. More like 30.
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at June 12, 2013 10:31 AM (RNhbC)
Posted by: Bronco Bama at June 12, 2013 10:31 AM (5fSr7)
I want to hurl whenever I see his mug on the tube.
Don't get my started on his voice.
Last night his face came up on TV, and I started yelling, "Change the channel - NOW!!" until my husband shut it off.
Then he simply turned to me with this "Are you okay?" look of incredulity. I must have sounded like a total lunatic.
Posted by: Marybeth at June 12, 2013 10:31 AM (Ks0w4)
Posted by: Decaf at June 12, 2013 02:22 PM (AAOE/)
You mean his clear and obvious mental retardation* isn't disability enough?
*my apologies to the mental retardation community
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 12, 2013 10:32 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Yip at June 12, 2013 10:32 AM (/jHWN)
So, he's Bi-Facial.
Posted by: wheatie at June 12, 2013 02:31 PM (Zzz8F)
NICE.
*gold star*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 12, 2013 10:33 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: T. at June 12, 2013 10:33 AM (/B/Nv)
Last night his face came up on TV, and I started yelling, "Change the channel - NOW!!" until my husband shut it off.
Then he simply turned to me with this "Are you okay?" look of incredulity. I must have sounded like a totallunatic.
Posted by: Marybeth at June 12, 2013 02:31 PM (Ks0w4
Marybeth, it's like we're living under the same roof. My husband says I become unhinged when I see or hear TFG. He's right.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2013 10:34 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Yip at June 12, 2013 02:32 PM (/jHWN)
I'm shooting for somewhere with low humidity. Or if it must be humid, then not too hot. Maybe the Pacific Northwest.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 12, 2013 10:34 AM (4df7R)
I denounce all of you for your racist right-wing hate of our beloved President, who I and everyone I know supports completely.
Except for those filthy Sarah Palin-worshipping sluts in the Brattleboro Republican Womens' Club. I hate them all so much.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at June 12, 2013 10:34 AM (jCQ+I)
Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2013 10:34 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 12, 2013 10:34 AM (UypUQ)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 12, 2013 02:25 PM (eHIJJ)
Got that right crackas. Think Jesse Jackson with presidential cred and no stupid rhyming! BWAhahahahahahaha!
Posted by: Bronco Bama at June 12, 2013 10:34 AM (RD7QR)
Last night his face came up on TV, and I started yelling, "Change the channel - NOW!!" until my husband shut it off.
This is a lot like me, though I'm the one with the remote so the only one I'm screaming at is myself. "WHERE THE FUCK DID i PUT THE DAMN REMOTE? CHANGE IT CHANGE IT BEFORE THE ASSHOLE STARTS FLAPPING HIS GUMS!"
I really do become physically ill when I'm forced to hear him speak.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 12, 2013 10:35 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 12, 2013 10:36 AM (DPdf7)
How do you compete against that level of idiocy?
Posted by: Fritz at June 12, 2013 10:36 AM (G9Mmf)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at June 12, 2013 10:37 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2013 02:34 PM (lVPtV)
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So good to know, Jane - great minds think alike, eh? :-)
Posted by: Marybeth at June 12, 2013 10:37 AM (Ks0w4)
It struck me...how come we're not getting Miranda Rights, whenever we use our phones and the internet?
***WARNING***
Whatever you say on your phone will be taken down and used against you.
Posted by: wheatie at June 12, 2013 10:37 AM (Zzz8F)
Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2013 10:38 AM (KXm42)
JUST BECAUSE YOU KEEP SAYING THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!!!!! that has to be some sort of machivelian phrasing trick or something, constantly label your hyperpartisan bullshit as "a common sense solution we can all agree on"
It's another aspect of his delusion that only he holds THE legitimate position. Any other position is then by definition unreasonable and again, by definition, held by unreasonable (un)people. THIS more than anything scares me about him holding power.
He probably sees all of his actions from the EPA to the IRS to DHS to be restrained. He has the full force and might of the military and the federal leviathan. He has vocalized his ache for the kind of power Xi Jinping exercises.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 12, 2013 10:38 AM (yKTI2)
Obama is the perfect liberal leader: He sees himself as king and others as his servants.
Who does he remind you of?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 12, 2013 10:38 AM (Z5KPR)
Posted by: Jack Nine at June 12, 2013 10:39 AM (0h8aq)
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 12, 2013 02:34 PM (UypUQ)
He has turned the Presidency into a partisan office. It's always been partisan to an extent, but the President is supposed to be the President of ALL Americans. He is supposed to be the even keel that brings both sides together to reach common ground. The President is NOT supposed to be a partisan demagogue who actively and continually insults the opposition party and the vast swaths of American citizens who do not ascribe to his personal political view. But that's what Obammy has done.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 12, 2013 10:39 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2013 02:34 PM (lVPtV)
Same here, the Significant Other and the dog are very worried about me. The only thing that makes me madder is seeing Mooch's face.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at June 12, 2013 10:41 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2013 10:41 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at June 12, 2013 02:37 PM (VtjlW) [/i]
Indeed, I can empathize, my queen.
Part of the reason I yell at myself is so I can drown out any of the Mocha Messiah's drivel that I may be forced to endure before I can change the channel to something less nauseating, like Home and Garden or MSNBC.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 12, 2013 10:41 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2013 10:42 AM (lVPtV)
"The media professes we're not giving President Baritone McDreamy a fair shake because we're racist. And Bill Clinton is Father of the Year.
How do you compete against that level of idiocy?"
They are determined to debase everything that had any meaning: the Nobel Peace Prize, the presidency, Father of the Year....
Posted by: Decaf at June 12, 2013 10:42 AM (AAOE/)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 12, 2013 02:41 PM (Z5KPR)
Is that anything like Extra Crispy @ KFC?
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at June 12, 2013 10:43 AM (kXoT0)
He's never going away.>>
And Neither is Michelle who will go on with her campaign to make us eat right.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 12, 2013 10:43 AM (81UWZ)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at June 12, 2013 10:43 AM (wbmaj)
Well, I know the morons will probably be sent somewhere really hot and humid and miserable, digging ditches all day long.
http://youtu.be/wnY_Jb9bmCg
Posted by: EC at June 12, 2013 10:43 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 12, 2013 10:43 AM (e8kgV)
You offer to increase their rations of chocolate to 20 grams. Please consult your new and improved Newspeak stylebook ASAP.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 12, 2013 10:44 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at June 12, 2013 10:44 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2013 02:42 PM (lVPtV)
Yeah, especially when they are nattering on how about her perfect motherhoodiness, when the truth is, Ma Robinson is in charge of those girls and has been since birth OR when they gag on and on about how beautiful and fashionable she is.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at June 12, 2013 10:45 AM (kXoT0)
My grandmother (still alive at 96) adores Obama. She has his book on her coffee table. Once, in an argument, I told her that the death panels will come for her long before they come for me.
She and I don't get along.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 12, 2013 10:45 AM (Z5KPR)
HGTV, the cable channel devoted to home remodeling and interior design, apologized today for a feature on its website that recommended the use of an American flag as a tablecloth for Independence Day celebrations.
“Drape a large American flag over the table as a bright and festive table runner,” HGTV advised. “Use a nylon flag so spills can be easily wiped off and the flag can later be hung with pride on a flag pole.”
Sorry for the O/T, but WTF??
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2013 10:45 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at June 12, 2013 02:44 PM (wbmaj)
Style point, his name is Little Antknee Weinerwagger.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at June 12, 2013 10:45 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at June 12, 2013 02:43 PM (kXoT0)
Only his political future.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 12, 2013 10:46 AM (Z5KPR)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 12, 2013 02:43 PM (81UWZ)
Right after she fuels up with a basket of chili fries and a Coke.
Posted by: Bronco Bama at June 12, 2013 10:47 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 12, 2013 10:47 AM (CERl/)
148Sherry, Mooch is a whole different rage. I can't stand that angry, smug, scold.
When I see her, I think, "One finger. One middle finger."
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 12, 2013 10:48 AM (Z5KPR)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 12, 2013 10:48 AM (CERl/)
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 12, 2013 10:49 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: [/i][/b]akula_51 at June 12, 2013 10:49 AM (Vgn84)
I disagree with the premise that Obama is masterful at anything.
^^ This ^^
Obammy hasn't been masterful at a damn thing his entire benighted life. His sycophants and supplicants and boosters and promoters have simply employed the "If we say it enough, it'll be true" method of support. Nothing Obammy has ever done or said or pretended to do or attempted to say has ever been his own.
He is not a blank slate -- he is an empty box. A slate bears the message that was written upon it, and so to an extent it reflects the beliefs and feelings of the writer. But Obammy reflects nothing -- he swallows the hollow beliefs of his adoring cult and never changes, just like a box still looks like a box regardless of what's inside.
Obammy doesn't HAVE to change. His worshipful cultists don't WANT him to change. They want him to continue vomiting up the words they want to hear when he talks to them, and will happily ignore the words he says to other people, even if those words are in direct opposition to their own beliefs. They want him to continue being an empty box that always looks the same and never changes, because then they can believe that all the words filling him up are their own.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 12, 2013 10:50 AM (4df7R)
Remember when us Cons were in charge and said, "I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death, your right to say it."?
We were fools.
Posted by: Invictus at June 12, 2013 10:50 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at June 12, 2013 02:34 PM (tWmgi)
Without commenting on your incredibly wrong speculation, let me try to give you some insight into why I take the positions I do.
I simply find it hard to believe that this series of people, from Rubio to Ryan to Ayotte to Brewer and all the rest who try to make changes have turned into wild-eyed liberals.
As one of the more reasonable people being swept up in the lynch mob here, don't you think it's a bit improbable that they all have thrown away a lifetime of working for conservative causes in order to help Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi?
Wouldn't a better explanation be that they are trying to put something together for the country or their state that will be the most conservative solution that can reasonably be accomplished?
Sure, it's fun to take the position that everyone who varies one iota from the hardcore line is "dead to me now". However, I find it distasteful that so many are so anxious to tear down our own team.
Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2013 10:51 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: T. at June 12, 2013 10:52 AM (/B/Nv)
Posted by: Invictus at June 12, 2013 10:52 AM (OQpzc)
We were fools.
Posted by: Invictus at June 12, 2013 02:50 PM (OQpzc)
Yeah. Lenin was astonished that Kerensky didn't suppress the Bolsheviks bloodily when he had the chance. They didn't make that mistake.
Posted by: joncelli at June 12, 2013 10:52 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Jack Nine at June 12, 2013 10:53 AM (0h8aq)
Earlier portrait: http://www.justjared.com/2009/02/27/michelle-michelle-obama-white-house-portrait/
Latest portrait: http://www.justjared.com/2009/02/27/michelle-michelle-obama-white-house-portrait/
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at June 12, 2013 10:53 AM (kXoT0)
And after this fall, our son can join us. He has a unique set of "skills."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2013 10:53 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 12, 2013 10:54 AM (CERl/)
Posted by: [/i][/b]akula_51 at June 12, 2013 10:56 AM (Vgn84)
22 Who is Bernie Scattersalt?
Posted by: John Galt at June 12, 2013 02:04 PM (SCcgT)
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He's related to Ben Gazi and this Iris chick that everyone is going on about.
Posted by: L I V at June 12, 2013 10:56 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: soothsayer at June 12, 2013 10:56 AM (3Aqe5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 12, 2013 10:57 AM (DPdf7)
165We should have just shot 'em and taken their stuff...and their women.
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Honesty, have you LOOKED at their women?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 12, 2013 10:57 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Jack Nine at June 12, 2013 02:53 PM (0h8aq)
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Yup. Any day now............any day now........
Posted by: Soona at June 12, 2013 10:57 AM (MhjjL)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, totally changing his nic for no apparent reason at June 12, 2013 10:58 AM (zUi7I)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at June 12, 2013 10:58 AM (0q2P7)
Latest portrait: http://www.justjared.com/2009/02/27/michelle-michelle-obama-white-house-portrait/
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at June 12, 2013 02:53 PM (kXoT0)
She hasn't changed a bit.
Posted by: huerfano at June 12, 2013 10:58 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: LaQuisha Largess at June 12, 2013 10:58 AM (3lMGK)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2013 02:53 PM (lVPtV)
Yeah, with all the Dem cronyism, it'll probably be like Stalag 13.
My worry is they'll be on a beans and rice kick for their own troops, for health reasons, of course. Not that they are eating it all their own elite selves. Or selling the beef and pork to fund luxuries like most commie governments.
Posted by: Invictus at June 12, 2013 10:58 AM (OQpzc)
If you had to vote, who's the worst of these three:
E.J.,
katrina vanden heuvel or
elinor clift
Posted by: ed gibbon at June 12, 2013 10:59 AM (4eNxd)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 12, 2013 11:00 AM (272s8)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 12, 2013 11:01 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Berserker at June 12, 2013 11:01 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2013 02:51 PM (u2a4R)
Who called who wacko bird?
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at June 12, 2013 11:02 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: huerfano at June 12, 2013 02:58 PM (bAGA/)
The image has. No bare arms, awkward lower half hidden, more demure hair, more appropriate dress, more serious expression. I agree that she has not changed, but, she is being packaged for a run.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at June 12, 2013 11:03 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 12, 2013 11:03 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 12, 2013 03:01 PM (eHIJJ)
and so damn sure of herself!
or David Korn
Posted by: soothsayer at June 12, 2013 03:02 PM (jlW3q)
yes, way up there on the weasel index
Posted by: ed gibbon at June 12, 2013 11:04 AM (4eNxd)
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 12, 2013 11:07 AM (8sCoq)
"He's a poet.
He's a picker.
He's a prophet.
He's a pusher.
He's a pilgrim and a preacher and a problem when he's stoned.
He's a walking contradiction,
Partly truth and partly fiction,
Taking every wrong direction on his lonely way back home.
There's been a lot of wrong directions on that lonely way back home."
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at June 12, 2013 11:08 AM (/lWM8)
Posted by: OxyCon at June 12, 2013 11:09 AM (TOoo4)
Posted by: Travis Bickle at June 12, 2013 11:13 AM (8sCoq)
"Immigration Reform" The Conservative option is "enforce the law as written."
Existing law as written makes it illegal to ask the citizenship of people applying for welfare. Existing law makes deportation a long and expensive process even for convicted criminals. Existing law hamstrings border patrol and local authorities from making the border secure.
Existing law is a mismatched quilt of poorly thought out cures to problems that might or might not have existed. Immigration reform is a chance to make the laws work in a conservative way.
For some reason, no one seems to get the fact that things can be changed that make things more conservative. The basic premise of all things political is this:
Liberal care about how something looks, conservatives care about how things work.
Just like "gun control". No conservative on earth (or liberal, or anyone else) wants to sell guns to criminals or crazies. That is simply a given. There is no argument. Obama wanted to seize all assault rifles, get limits on large capacity clips and eventually get all handguns. He and the rest of the democrats overreached after Newtown and he lost big time.
His only way to save face was to get a provision that would look like he did something without actually doing anything. In exchange for saving face, he and the democrats were willing to give up just about anything.
Toomey was there ready to cut a deal that would have cost us nothing an codified everything the NRA could want for the next 3 or 4 decades. All he had to do was put it on paper.
Immigration is the same way. Want to help the cause? Put a provision into the bill that any newly legalized person caught voting will be immediately deported. Who could argue with that? What newly legalized mexican is going to risk it in the next election?
There are a hundred changes that could be put into a new immigration bill that the make things far more conservative friendly than they are now. All we need to do is insist they are put in and back our team passing it.
Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2013 11:25 AM (u2a4R)
Yasser Arafat (spit) used to say one thing (bland nothings) to the western press, and 'Drive the JOOOS into the sea' to his Arab audience.
So O-bah-muhh (spit) learned to al-taqqiya like all his Mooslem Brothers.
Posted by: Never let it be said I wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire at June 12, 2013 11:31 AM (nbGZj)
Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2013 02:51 PM (u2a4R)
I can understand that and have some of the same feelings in that regard but you seem to have taken a contrary position on matters it seems just for the sake of being adversarial. Not all the time but certainly its gotten worse.
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2013 11:35 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 12, 2013 03:03 PM (/PCJa)
And this is what jwest is referring to. Is Perry a traitor? Since I think rewarding illegal aliens tuition rights that are not afforded to other American citizens outside the State of Texas is a travesty. I don't think he is a traitor but I disagree with him.
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2013 11:40 AM (m2CN7)
"you seem to have taken a contrary position on matters it seems just for the sake of being adversarial. Not all the time but certainly its gotten worse. "
You're right. Sometimes I'll go out of my way to find a contrary position just to try to hammer home the feeling of being outside of the lynch mob.
But then again, I don't think it's bad to get an argument from the other side just to get people to think about their positions and question if it's really thought out or just a emotional reaction.
Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2013 11:43 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Senator Warren at June 12, 2013 11:43 AM (y5bPZ)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at June 12, 2013 03:03 PM (kXoT0)
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To paraphrase her man-child hubby: Can't put enough lipstick on THAT pig.
Posted by: Marybeth at June 12, 2013 11:45 AM (Ks0w4)
Normal thinking people know that giving someone a huge bag of government goodies cannot work with being a spending cutter. However, adding LIVs who do not distinguish this "subtle nuance"(/sarc off) to the Democrat ideologues who know it's false but don't care, does form a significant majority.
Question is, is it possible to convince LIVs that someone like Obama is actively deceiving them and leading them around like a Pied Piper? If this can be done, a lot of them would be mad. Maybe mad enough to vote for someone else who they perceived to be telling them the truth.
Posted by: RM at June 12, 2013 11:50 AM (/Frlf)
Posted by: Buzzion at June 12, 2013 11:58 AM (AKQau)
Obama can only do this, as Zero says, thanks to the media.
The media are heavily Communist-infested.
I know, we've said that before, but it bears repeating.
Reading the JournoList postings made that all too clear; they discuss events in terms and proposals that are virtually unique to Communists. Who else ever talks about the advisability of creating a "Popular Front?" Not an American in a thousand has the faintest idea what a popular front even is.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 12, 2013 12:13 PM (Z2Bkq)
jwest, your characterization of the "just enforce the law" situation is completely inaccurate
without going into the boring details, there is plenty of legal authority at the federal level to enforce existing laws that would make today's situation of mass illegal alien presence totally infeasible (i.e., it would attrit away quickly)
and that's WITHOUT merely the active federal malfeasance of illegal EOs with the effect of gutting existing laws, or coddling jurisdictions that openly flout the law ("sanctuary cities")
seems on most issues, if you're not being disengenuous, you're simply not very wise in the ways of either policy implementation or Beltway politics - oh, and your absurd contention on the idiotic Toomey gun gambit illustrates both failings rather spectacularly
back on topic - several commenters above noted the inappropriate tone and conduct of this president - he has been, as none in my lifetime, dramatically un-presidential, almost non-stop. the examples defy memory or a short listing (most of the "punish your enemies" and vote "for revenge" comments all will remember from the last two election cycles). so far - so far! - the most complete and neatly packaged collection of am-I-really-seeing-this outrages (by the pres, the govt., and the press) has to be Benghazi. every single element of that debacle exceeds the failures/scandals of administrations going back two generations - together they form a sort of super-nova of incompetence and dishonesty, not to mention complete alienation from every essential American and constitutional sensibility
Posted by: non-purist at June 12, 2013 12:19 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: NYC Parent at June 12, 2013 12:28 PM (HEo6y)
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