November 22, 2013
— Ace Launch? Well, detonation on the launching pad, anyway.
Compare to the last post: Chao testified he removed the Anonymous Shopper feature because to have foisted such a flawed bit of software on an unsuspecting public would have been "unconscionable."
Yet the bulk of Healthcare.gov was... to call it flawed would be like saying Obama is slightly fond of golf, television, and himself.
Chao has repeatedly testified under oath that he had no inordinate concerns & no idea that the website would have so many problems on Day 1.
— Sharyl Attkisson (@SharylAttkisson) November 22, 2013
HHSÂ’ Sebelius, CMSÂ’ Tavenner and The White House have made similar statements.
— Sharyl Attkisson (@SharylAttkisson) November 22, 2013
Chao emails staff: “I DO NOT WANT A REPEAT OF WHAT HAPPENED NEAR THE END OF DECEMBER 2005 WHERE http://t.co/tthjnYyIi2 HAD A MELTDOWN”
— Sharyl Attkisson (@SharylAttkisson) November 22, 2013
Documents: 5 days to launch: “the results are not good and not consistent at all.”
— Sharyl Attkisson (@SharylAttkisson) November 22, 2013
You guys remember the rumors that CBSNews was thinking about firing Attkisson for bringing too much of a partisan edge to her reportage?
Yeah. She's the one who lives in a partisan fantasyland, huh?
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Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 22, 2013 01:20 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: boone at November 22, 2013 01:20 PM (3p8HS)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 22, 2013 01:21 PM (YVXLf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 22, 2013 01:22 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 22, 2013 01:22 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: boone at November 22, 2013 01:22 PM (3p8HS)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 22, 2013 01:23 PM (sByIH)
There are a few real journalists still working. Atkisson doing yeoman's work.
Posted by: WisRich at November 22, 2013 01:24 PM (hdpay)
This calls for an early Vanguard video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvnKfgDANKY#t=0m23s
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 22, 2013 01:25 PM (yobtO)
Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 22, 2013 01:26 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 22, 2013 01:26 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: RS at November 22, 2013 01:26 PM (YAGV/)
I remember her on CNN during the first Gulf War... she was smoking hot.
... and now she's an actual journalist. One of the few.
Posted by: hindmost at November 22, 2013 01:26 PM (t6Jvs)
Posted by: All the other reporters[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 22, 2013 01:26 PM (sByIH)
Ladies, them careers are easy pickins in the journalism business. You just have to do your job.
Posted by: flounder at November 22, 2013 01:27 PM (Kkt/i)
Not so much with the institutions - but there appear to be a few individuals who remember how to be a reporter. Including Ms. Attkisson.
Back before the Burning Time they gave Pulitzers for stuff like that.
Posted by: McConnell, Boehner, McCain, Graham and RINOs Inc. at November 22, 2013 01:27 PM (5ikDv)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 22, 2013 01:27 PM (l2h4p)
Posted by: Mark Halperin at November 22, 2013 01:27 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: hindmost at November 22, 2013 01:27 PM (t6Jvs)
Upside: the early adopters of OCare are likely the True Believers who wanted it in the first place. They'll get their data politically abused (before it gets stolen) and they'll be the vanguard of the sticker-shock brigade.
The early pain should be highly targeted.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at November 22, 2013 01:28 PM (A0sHn)
Posted by: no good deed at November 22, 2013 01:28 PM (HsJeN)
It's interesting how quickly the media (and all my liberal acquaintances) have forgotten that Democrats held up every single Bush judicial nomination for three months.
So much for 'unprecedented gridlock' forcing Reid's hand.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 22, 2013 01:28 PM (fwARV)
Posted by: Europe (the band) at November 22, 2013 01:28 PM (xKK9v)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 01:28 PM (ix+5k)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 22, 2013 01:28 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 22, 2013 01:28 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: no good deed at November 22, 2013 05:28 PM (HsJeN)
Was there any news about how that went?
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 22, 2013 01:29 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: UCLA Graduate Student in Education and Information Studies at November 22, 2013 01:29 PM (TCqhy)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 22, 2013 01:30 PM (l2h4p)
Posted by: ADK46er at November 22, 2013 01:30 PM (1H+lb)
Posted by: AmishDude at November 22, 2013 01:30 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: flounder at November 22, 2013 01:31 PM (Kkt/i)
Attkisson should have went with a "get this" or two.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2013 05:30 PM (iGPSR)
Seriously you guys! Get this... they lied.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 22, 2013 01:31 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Most People[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 22, 2013 01:32 PM (sByIH)
Posted by: --- at November 22, 2013 01:32 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2013 01:33 PM (8ZskC)
@23 Guess whose computer is about to get hacked again.
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I'm guessing her notes are *very* carefully hidden away right now...
Also, CBS itself isn't taking the seizure of her notes sitting down. They appear to be treating this quite seriously.
Posted by: junior at November 22, 2013 01:34 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2013 01:34 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: --- at November 22, 2013 01:34 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Mark Halperin at November 22, 2013 01:34 PM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 22, 2013 01:34 PM (tmFlQ)
Black Democratium vs Tragedy of Epic Failure
for the title!
Posted by: noone, really at November 22, 2013 01:34 PM (5ikDv)
Posted by: tubal at November 22, 2013 01:35 PM (YEQ2h)
She's about the only mainstream journalist that I have any respect for these days.
Oh, and don't forget her claim that someone was tapping into her computers and such.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 22, 2013 01:35 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 01:35 PM (ix+5k)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 01:35 PM (IXrOn)
Should she worry about getting her computer hacked again? Absolutely.
What she should also worry about is taking plane rides, or walks through Ft. Marcy Park.
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 01:37 PM (66ULQ)
I'm guessing her notes are *very* carefully hidden away right now...
Also, CBS itself isn't taking the seizure of her notes sitting down. They appear to be treating this quite seriously.
Posted by: junior at November 22, 2013 05:34 PM (UWFpX)
Your misremembering Attkisson (hack) with Times reporter Audrey Hudson (notes seized on unrelated and insufficient warrant).
Posted by: flounder at November 22, 2013 01:37 PM (Kkt/i)
@42 @23 Guess whose computer is about to get hacked again. -------------------
I'm guessing her notes are *very* carefully hidden away right now...
Also, CBS itself isn't taking the seizure of her notes sitting down. They appear to be treating this quite seriously.
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Whoops. I confused the computer hacking with the incident where the government agents seized all of the notes. That was her too, wasn't it?
Posted by: junior at November 22, 2013 01:37 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 22, 2013 01:37 PM (l2h4p)
1. she still shares information with america
2. she is obviously not intmidated by this new world .
3. she is one heck of a woman.
Posted by: willow at November 22, 2013 01:38 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 01:39 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 22, 2013 01:39 PM (sJlgq)
Posted by: AmishDude at November 22, 2013 01:39 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: BubbaLou at November 22, 2013 01:39 PM (/cUUk)
Posted by: Mark Halperson at November 22, 2013 01:40 PM (sJlgq)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 22, 2013 01:40 PM (jucos)
Who in their wildest dreams thinks this current level of very-bad-vibes-created-by-Obamacare can continue for all, or most, or half, or a third, or even just for another sixty days, please, in the runup to those all-important midterms?
The stimulus was a failure, with 100s of billions down the rat-hole, without -- I believe, a single notable success.
Yet, ya don't hear much about that, now do you? Accountablitly is old fashioned and probably racist.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 22, 2013 01:40 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 22, 2013 01:40 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: dogfish at November 22, 2013 01:40 PM (nsOJa)
Posted by: dogfish at November 22, 2013 01:41 PM (nsOJa)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 22, 2013 05:40 PM (jucos)
Me too. Serious as a heart attack - as a heart attack after walking out of a bar after a couple of drinks...
Posted by: tubal at November 22, 2013 01:41 PM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: gm at November 22, 2013 01:42 PM (/kBoL)
Posted by: Fawkes at November 22, 2013 01:42 PM (t9e6Q)
Posted by: Minuteman at November 22, 2013 01:42 PM (sJlgq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 22, 2013 01:42 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Most People[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 22, 2013 01:42 PM (sByIH)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 22, 2013 01:43 PM (jucos)
or you know maybe not.
http://tinyurl.com/or8u434
It is only *sorta* OT Ace the structural bias real reporting faces is my point.
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 01:43 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 22, 2013 01:43 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: gm at November 22, 2013 01:44 PM (/kBoL)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 22, 2013 01:44 PM (sByIH)
I wouldn't mind seeing some more code snippets uploaded to online help forums.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 22, 2013 01:44 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Cheryl Attkisson's Computer and House at November 22, 2013 01:44 PM (xKK9v)
When this all washes out I can guarantee you not one single democrat will be so much as had a grievance filed against them.
One side plays to win...one side just plays around.
Posted by: BuckIV at November 22, 2013 01:45 PM (gedHR)
@63 A few months back, she reported that her computer had been hacked. Gee, wonder who did that?
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That was pretty much her response. Unfortunately, other than some vague hints that she suspected she knew who did it, she couldn't provide any further details.
Posted by: junior at November 22, 2013 01:45 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Thunderb at November 22, 2013 01:45 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Decaf at November 22, 2013 01:45 PM (pyqPQ)
Posted by: tubal at November 22, 2013 05:41 PM (YEQ2h)
__________________
I know where you are going with this. I think there might be something there too.
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 22, 2013 01:45 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, upholstering his throne of skulls at November 22, 2013 01:45 PM (naUcP)
Posted by: Fawkes at November 22, 2013 01:45 PM (t9e6Q)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 22, 2013 05:40 PM (kdS6q)
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The problem here is they're fucking with the very lives of people. I'll give it six months until the low rumble becomes a pitched scream as people start dying because of canceled or unaffordability of insurance.
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 01:46 PM (66ULQ)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 22, 2013 01:46 PM (sByIH)
Tepid Air is reporting that the new deadline for enrollment has been moved back from Dec. 15th to the 23rd.
That gives insurance companies an 8 day turn-around window so coverage can start on Jan. 1.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 05:28 PM (ix+5k)
That's OK, we all know that the week of 24 through 31 December is the most productive of the year. No sweat.
Posted by: Minuteman at November 22, 2013 01:46 PM (sJlgq)
Posted by: Darth Sebelius at November 22, 2013 01:47 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: George Orwell at November 22, 2013 01:47 PM (Vv4Go)
Posted by: tubal at November 22, 2013 01:48 PM (YEQ2h)
Really?
In case you missed it, and evidently you did Walker reformed the civil service unions in his state and actually you know improved his state's economy.
I get that berating individual teachers makes Joisey Buddah a Real Man in New EUtopia or something but he has actually accomplished very little.
Walker is about as "sensible" as you are gonna get and get turnout champ, so maybe you should be a glass half full guy and look for real you know accomplishments in your Moderate Militia?
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 01:48 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: chuckinseattle at November 22, 2013 01:48 PM (EZU5/)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 22, 2013 01:49 PM (l2h4p)
Anyone remember "If it helps just one child..."?
Texas Family With Two Kids Fighting Cancer Have Their Insurance Canceled Because of ObamacareÂ…
http://is.gd/OXUU34
But hey, their neighbor's adult slut daughter gets "free[sic]" abortions now.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 22, 2013 01:49 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Marcel Marceau[/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 22, 2013 01:50 PM (yz6yg)
Walker is also pro-2A.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 22, 2013 01:50 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 22, 2013 01:51 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:51 PM (M8OWQ)
Posted by: The Barrel at November 22, 2013 01:51 PM (YEelc)
Allah sorta pisses me off to my core.
I am not in the habit of purposefully crapping in the host's punch bowl unless needed....
his Obtuseness needs my fecal matter on this topic.
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 01:51 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Decaf at November 22, 2013 01:52 PM (pyqPQ)
I come to you because you're less painful than penance Kaboom cereal at this point old friend.
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 01:52 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:52 PM (M8OWQ)
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Say again? I didn't quite hear that.
Posted by: I'll Be Here All Week. Try the Veal... at November 22, 2013 01:52 PM (ay6+/)
Did this happen, or is this ace hyperbole? I find it hard to believe CBS would be that blatant.
...no, no, no, I actually don't have any difficulty believing that.
Posted by: Null at November 22, 2013 01:52 PM (DuH+r)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:52 PM (M8OWQ)
I am not in the habit of purposefully crapping in the host's punch bowl unless needed....
his Obtuseness needs my fecal matter on this topic.
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 05:51 PM (9jfyN)
Suffers from terminal nuance.
Posted by: tubal at November 22, 2013 01:53 PM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 22, 2013 01:53 PM (ZPrif)
I know some contractors who would take that on.
They'd charge about four figures an hour, but if you really need it done that badly...
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 22, 2013 01:53 PM (ZKzrr)
Just remember, the hole in the side isn't for ventilation.
Posted by: The Barrel at November 22, 2013 01:53 PM (YEelc)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:53 PM (M8OWQ)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 22, 2013 01:54 PM (PZ6/M)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 22, 2013 01:54 PM (l2h4p)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:54 PM (M8OWQ)
Yeah when I ruminate on Iowahawk's Johnny Nuance rib on Jungle John Kerry I read it in Allah's voice...
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 01:55 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: the amazing cult of kool aid at November 22, 2013 01:55 PM (eQZZW)
Posted by: Barack Obama at November 22, 2013 01:55 PM (ZPrif)
Look Paradise is by necessity gonna bankrupt all you fuckers...
//Barack T Ogabe
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 01:56 PM (9jfyN)
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Say again? I didn't quite hear that.
Forget it. He just climbed away on an invisible ladder.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2013 01:56 PM (8ZskC)
I think the Trojan Steel Ribbed Belted Radial Vulcanized Rubber with Electric Cattle Prod for her pleasure condoms are a nice touch Barrel...
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 01:57 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 22, 2013 01:57 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 01:57 PM (M8OWQ)
Posted by: Goatweed at November 22, 2013 01:58 PM (8HrdX)
Exactly.
100% correct....about Walker AND about Christie.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2013 01:58 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 05:55 PM (9jfyN)
Kinda like he's stuck in Debate Club, where the side you take is not always the side you are on. He seems to always want to be even handed, or fair......while dealing with Orcs.
Posted by: tubal at November 22, 2013 01:58 PM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 22, 2013 01:58 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Barky The Destroyer at November 22, 2013 01:58 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 22, 2013 02:00 PM (v9cuy)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 22, 2013 05:58 PM (t3UFN)
Stay healthy, Justice Thomas.
Posted by: tubal at November 22, 2013 02:00 PM (YEQ2h)
Thanks, I know it is easy to forget and God knows the last 3 years haven't been reminding people but once upon a time I was a pretty cogent, witty, and sane political observer.
We're gonna need to get you a Hannah Montana family friendly nick alter ego and get *you* into some mainstream exposure CBD....
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 02:00 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Mayday at November 22, 2013 02:00 PM (eHc+1)
and they seem to be in the same position: irretrievably fucked
Posted by: Ed Gibbon at November 22, 2013 02:01 PM (4eNxd)
Posted by: Barack Obama at November 22, 2013 02:02 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 06:00 PM (9jfyN)
Have you seen what Hannah Montana has been doing recently?
She even embarrasses Bannion!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2013 02:02 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 02:03 PM (GEICT)
People forget that Robot Chicken predicted all this...
http://youtu.be/uGHmOB-4-sU
eerie...
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 02:03 PM (9jfyN)
it's like finding out the Olson twins are basket cases or something for nerdom...
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 02:04 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Ed Gibbon at November 22, 2013 06:01 PM (4eNxd)
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Sounds like an AoSHQ "Date Night".
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 02:05 PM (66ULQ)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 22, 2013 02:05 PM (M8OWQ)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2013 02:05 PM (ix+5k)
Well, guess they need more help on SCOTUS. I'll just have to add on a few more justices.
Posted by: SCOAMT at November 22, 2013 02:06 PM (xKK9v)
I am under orders to take her out and show her a good time...
luckily I have her fooled into thinking Cincos Muchachos (Five Guys) or Wendy's Pretzel Burgers are high cuisine....
ie she like me is a cheap date
Posted by: sven at November 22, 2013 02:06 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: willow at November 22, 2013 02:06 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 02:06 PM (GEICT)
She is Not Of The Body.
She must be ejected, as an insect hive ejects those members who do not conform to its rigid and specific internal order.
A reporter who actually reports? Unheard of.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2013 02:07 PM (gqT4g)
We all need to just start calling Obama what he really is (and the best part is that it is 100% accurate):
A second-rate insurance salesman.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 22, 2013 02:07 PM (PZ6/M)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 22, 2013 02:08 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 22, 2013 02:08 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 02:09 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: willow at November 22, 2013 02:10 PM (nqBYe)
Just because I noticed doesn't make it any less shocking.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 22, 2013 02:10 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: ScoggDog at November 22, 2013 02:10 PM (6/+vz)
I made everybody a drink to start the weekend. Uploading to drink ports now.
http://www.diettaste.com/drinks/spiked-apple-cider-recipe.html
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2013 02:10 PM (iGPSR)
of course media rarely mentions it.
Posted by: willow at November 22, 2013 02:11 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 22, 2013 06:08 PM (Gk3SS)
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They've got all the power now, AtC. I don't think they really care whether we know or not. Just like I don't think they care about the polls either.
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2013 02:11 PM (66ULQ)
Posted by: ScoggDog at November 22, 2013 02:12 PM (6/+vz)
Dude....is she legal?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2013 02:13 PM (oJ5Fd)
Her real name is Cherry Koch.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 22, 2013 02:13 PM (mVyen)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2013 06:10 PM (iGPSR)
--
That looks really good!
Posted by: Mayday at November 22, 2013 02:13 PM (eHc+1)
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2013 02:13 PM (B/qhv)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 02:13 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: redenzo at November 22, 2013 02:14 PM (bMeMt)
Posted by: tubal at November 22, 2013 02:15 PM (YEQ2h)
the number was 99 .8 thousand that Tried to read the law!
See it's all political!
Posted by: willow at November 22, 2013 02:15 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: steevy at November 22, 2013 02:16 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: willow at November 22, 2013 02:17 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 22, 2013 02:18 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at November 22, 2013 02:18 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at November 22, 2013 02:22 PM (2rsFT)
They should withdraw all funding from his organization, and use some of the money to build a small "Chao rubber room"
Posted by: Steven Tyler at November 22, 2013 02:48 PM (yXxXd)
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