March 25, 2013
— Ace Ehhh...
Now that her show is off the air, and not doing NBC any good, I can admit in a post what I've given away in the comments: I thought 30 Rock was seriously good in Season 2 and 3. After that, it coasted on old jokes and the Same Old Thing, though it did manage the great "Reaganing" episode in Season 4 and "TGS Hates Women" in Season 5. Still, a terrific show overall. Most shows don't have two great seasons, after all.
I do think it was hurt partly by ill-will towards Fey for her Palin impression. The ironic thing is, it was, despite its likely intention, actually a show that frequently set up the Conservative Jack Donaghy as the Smart, Wise Hero exposing the Liberal/Feminist Liz Lemon's follies.
That was template for the Jack/Liz interaction that dominated the show-- I can't think offhand of a single "lesson" Liz taught Jack, but I could readily name five or six that Jack taught Liz. By Season 3 liberals were asking about it: How did a show by liberals, for liberals, and of liberals turn into a weekly exercise of the Conservative Jack making the liberal/feminist Liz look ridiculous?
I don't think the liberals behind the show intended it to go this way; I think in Season 1 you can see the original intent of making Jack the clueless rich-guy corporate doofus that you'd imagine liberal writers would make him. But by Season 2 they discovered it was funnier when Jack was right.* And they kept to that formula, despite the weirdness of it, just because it was funnier that way.
Anyway, that said, we have yet to see if Tina Fey can do much in a role that isn't based on the schtick of Tina Fey style silly/smart slapstick comedy. And it seems doubtful she'll actually break out on the big screen -- she seems to be a creature of TV, smaller (but solid) laughs for a smaller audience.
* For some definitions of "right." Jack was mostly right because he was a ruthless cynic and the universe of the show turned out to be ruthlessly cynical. Nevertheless, cynicism aside, he was portrayed as the smartest, wisest, and most in-control guy on the show (despite being slightly insane himself), and more moral than almost anyone else on the show. (Though the crazy inbred hillbilly Kenneth was generally the show's moral paragon, though in a frequently demented sort of way.)
Addition: Another interest facet of the show was that Jack and Liz's relationship was never romantic. It was interesting, because rather than set it up as a Will They or Won't They thing, the show seemed to take the attitude that even if they did drunkenly hook up, it just wouldn't matter, because they're simply not romantically attracted to each other at all. What they were were... friends. Best friends, actually. While they weren't sexually interested in each other, their relationship was deeper than any brief sexual one could be. They were essentially beyond sex. With each other, I mean.
Kind of an interesting thing, a male-female friendship in which sex isn't an issue at all.
I sort of didn't like it when Liz asked in one of the last shows why they'd never gotten into bed together. It seemed wrong. Their relationship seemed deeper than a one-time fling. They nearly made it the entire run without ever addressing the question, but then they broke down and asked about it.
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Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 25, 2013 12:26 PM (4OvDk)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 25, 2013 12:27 PM (Uvnw+)
Posted by: dantesed at March 25, 2013 12:28 PM (1BbZE)
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 25, 2013 12:28 PM (feFL6)
Posted by: buzz at March 25, 2013 12:28 PM (i27M5)
Posted by: dananjcon self hating woploc at March 25, 2013 12:28 PM (jvd3N)
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 12:29 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2013 12:29 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 25, 2013 12:29 PM (X6akg)
"Jack was mostly right because he was a ruthless cynic and the universe of the show turned out to be ruthlessly cynical"
Never saw the show, but it sounds like you just described Denny Crane from Boston Legal.
Denny Crane.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 25, 2013 12:30 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 12:30 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Tony253 at March 25, 2013 12:30 PM (PryWG)
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet at March 25, 2013 04:28 PM (feFL6)
What film does she do Tina Fey in?
Umm... what film does she portray Tina Fey doing guys in?
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 25, 2013 12:31 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 12:31 PM (QupBk)
The funny thing is, that's the only thing she'll be remembered for. "Hey, it's that woman who did Sarah Palin!"
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 12:31 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2013 12:31 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 12:31 PM (yhYn1)
Posted by: Ghostly Aspiration at March 25, 2013 12:31 PM (2U4NN)
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 12:32 PM (+iA5G)
The main reason I never watched the show much is because I loathe Tracy Morgan with all my being, and I can feel his stupidity wafting out of my TV screen even when he is not in the scene. Were it not for him, I probably would have watched. It had some funny moments.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Assault CAD Monkey at March 25, 2013 12:32 PM (K+mtQ)
Posted by: olddog in mo at March 25, 2013 12:32 PM (vibxo)
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet at March 25, 2013 04:28 PM (feFL6)
--Who's Lisa Ann?
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 12:32 PM (+iA5G)
I saw the airlines version of 30 Rock once when trapped in a tube hurtling through the air at several hundreds of miles an hour. I wondered what all the fuss was about.
It was not only not funny, but not entertaining in an environment where reading SkyMall for the 5th time was more entertaining.
Posted by: CUS at March 25, 2013 12:32 PM (84pE9)
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet at March 25, 2013 04:28 "...OK I'll bite. Who is Lisa Ann?
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 25, 2013 12:32 PM (wLY+G)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2013 12:33 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 25, 2013 12:33 PM (71LDo)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 25, 2013 12:33 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 12:33 PM (FsUAO)
She was kinda funny, but again, it was funny because all sides were portrayed and liberalism could be laughed at as well as conservatism.
If we had an honest press corps, several questions should be asked:
1) President Zero, your predecessor, GWB, quit golfing out of respect for our servicemen and women who were fighting several wars. Why have you not continued that policy?
2) President Zero, given that you have closed the White House, which is considered the people's house, for public tours, are you concerned about the negative optics about your golf trip with Tiger Woods, the cost of which would have paid for White House tours for the public for the entire year?
Thanks
Posted by: Prescient11 at March 25, 2013 12:33 PM (tVTLU)
Posted by: RiverC at March 25, 2013 12:33 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 12:33 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wench at March 25, 2013 12:34 PM (kXoT0)
The first film that deals with the IPAB Initiates will show them as the protagonists.....
Seth Mcfarfarted was not far off from "Springtime for Hitler"
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 12:34 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: RiverC at March 25, 2013 12:34 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 12:35 PM (GQ8sn)
I don't think I would even pay to see her in porno.
In a few years she'll be the bitter, wrinkled, incoherent alcoholic on Celebrity Rehab and we'll be saying "what show was she on?"
Posted by: Marcus at March 25, 2013 12:35 PM (GGCsk)
I don't think I've seen an entire episode of 30 Rock, but I have seen funny snippets as I passed through the room.
Posted by: toby928
Random Chris Parnell "Dr. Spaceman" bits are worth the google.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 25, 2013 12:35 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2013 12:35 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: zsasz at March 25, 2013 12:35 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 12:35 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Brian at March 25, 2013 12:36 PM (wTSvK)
I disagree that Jack was perceived as "mostly right." He was a caricature of the evil capitalist.
He did not capture any hearts and minds for the conservative cause.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 25, 2013 12:36 PM (3Mkrp)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 25, 2013 12:36 PM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 25, 2013 12:37 PM (uhftQ)
I still won't be sad if NBC goes bankrupt and ends up in the dust bin of TV history.
Posted by: Matt at March 25, 2013 12:37 PM (DRfaA)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 12:37 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at March 25, 2013 12:37 PM (ZCu9v)
A perfect example of liberal hypocrisy - "do as I say, not as I do"
Posted by: Tony253 at March 25, 2013 12:37 PM (PryWG)
I made a chart comparing the box office takes of his movies:
http://i.imgur.com/x4FcxU7.jpg
^^
Missing piece: i m g
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 25, 2013 12:37 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 12:37 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 04:35 PM (GQ8sn)
You say that like it's a good thing.
Posted by: Jim Carrey at March 25, 2013 12:37 PM (wLY+G)
Posted by: tasker at March 25, 2013 12:38 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Brian at March 25, 2013 04:36 PM (wTSvK)
--Ditto. I saw snippets, but one that asshat Tracy Morgan appeared I tuned out.
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 12:38 PM (+iA5G)
She still fills out that t-shirt rather nicely for an old broad.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 25, 2013 12:38 PM (3Mkrp)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 25, 2013 12:38 PM (B/VB5)
yeah....well "no" I don't know the last fifteen years Gymnasts but "yeah"
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 04:37 PM (LRFds)
Sven buddy, I have no idea what the fuck you're saying.
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 12:38 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 25, 2013 12:38 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: The Dude at March 25, 2013 12:38 PM (vJdyz)
http://tinyurl.com/cnlyobr
They've taken up a collection to pay the craft services bill.
One of these days some studio exec is going to get rich by doing movies that don't gratuitously antagonize half the moviegoing public, featuring actors that also don't gratuitously antagonize half the moviegoing public.
Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 25, 2013 12:39 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Dr Foistus at March 25, 2013 12:39 PM (V97CL)
Posted by: John the Libertarian at March 25, 2013 12:39 PM (jKf/K)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 12:39 PM (0nyYS)
I would not be able to tell one season from the next...all told, added all up, I caught maybe 10-15 minutes of all the episodes of it. In the teeny tiney bits I saw here and there, McBrayer was upstaging and outacting everyone. Alec Baldwin is the reason I do not have a Capitol One Credit card.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wench at March 25, 2013 12:39 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 25, 2013 12:39 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 25, 2013 12:40 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Piraeus at March 25, 2013 12:40 PM (+dXVn)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 25, 2013 12:40 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 12:41 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 25, 2013 12:41 PM (l3vZN)
it's CRyptoVision....
I have a disquieting knowledge of the professional horizontal refreshment circuit circa 1993-1998 from one of my old side jobs...
I know who Aurora Snow, Daisy Dukes, and uh Gauge are currently I think but I gathered you were discussing a professional mattress technician....
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 12:41 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 25, 2013 12:41 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 04:33 PM (+iA5G)
There's truth to that. I'm a big Upright Citizens Brigade fan and thought she was great in that. Due to her appearance in the gun ban commercial, though, I won't be watching her subsequent works.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at March 25, 2013 12:41 PM (7xeJQ)
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 25, 2013 12:41 PM (DLu2s)
Never watched "30 Rock". I always got it mixed up with "3 Rocks from the Sun". I'm not very good at MFM comedy series seeing that I don't ever tune in to the MFM.
Not really feeling like I'm missing out on anything either.
Posted by: Soona at March 25, 2013 12:41 PM (P4MEQ)
Tina Fey does an awesome "black guy" impression. Nails it.
Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2013 12:42 PM (KXm42)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 25, 2013 12:42 PM (e8kgV)
She still fills out that t-shirt rather nicely for an old broad.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 25, 2013 04:38 PM (3Mkrp)
**
Wouldn't toss her out of my lean-to down by the railroad tracks. Thats fer sure.
Posted by: dananjcon self hating woploc at March 25, 2013 12:42 PM (jvd3N)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 04:39 PM (0nyYS)
I love Big Bang Theory. But then I am a geek, have dated geeks, went to school with them, work with them--they are my peeps. I get them. My guy, who is a CPA, sits there and looks at me and says, "Sherry, it is funny, but, not that funny." I have to reply, "It is to me because they are the people I know."
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wench at March 25, 2013 12:42 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 12:42 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: zsasz at March 25, 2013 12:42 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 25, 2013 12:43 PM (yCvxi)
Except she outsmarts the 'geniuses' every damn time.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 25, 2013 12:43 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Komissar Vladimir at March 25, 2013 12:43 PM (sBegS)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 12:44 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2013 12:44 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 04:33 PM (+iA5G)
There's truth to that. I'm a big Upright Citizens Brigade fan and thought she was great in that. Due to her appearance in the gun ban commercial, though, I won't be watching her subsequent works.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at March 25, 2013 04:41 PM (7xeJQ)
--True. 90% of that anti-2A spot was Parks and Rec cast. Good thing that show's jumped the shark, so I have no compunction about stopping watching it.
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 12:44 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 25, 2013 04:41 PM (DLu2s)
**
I always skip the first comment. I assume its a moron saying "First!" or "Foist" or "Fist"
Posted by: dananjcon self hating woploc at March 25, 2013 12:44 PM (jvd3N)
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at March 25, 2013 12:44 PM (7v5Ct)
Posted by: archie goodwin at March 25, 2013 12:44 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: John the Libertarian at March 25, 2013 04:39 PM (jKf/K)
That is your fault though, you were watching the show after it fell off in the early 90's
Posted by: The Dude at March 25, 2013 12:44 PM (vJdyz)
I really liked Northern Exposure
Posted by: toby928
You just had a crush on Janine Turner*
*like the rest of us
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 25, 2013 12:45 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 12:45 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at March 25, 2013 12:45 PM (7v5Ct)
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 04:41 PM (QupBk)
Loved that show!
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 25, 2013 12:45 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: CAC at March 25, 2013 12:46 PM (0dDl5)
I was sorta pissed that Game of Shadows spiked her Adler so quickly...Ms McAdams is rather modular.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 12:46 PM (LRFds)
Eh, that's a stretch. She's always shown as being religious but ridiculously street smart, loving and able to handle Sheldon's personality. On the otherhand you have Leonard's mom who is a world famous overly educated psychologist who does nothing but alienate her son and never gives him comfort. Leonard always comes across as jealous at Sheldon's upbringing.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 25, 2013 12:46 PM (NzBQO)
Can't happen.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2013 12:46 PM (IY7Ir)
Posted by: Julia Louis Dreyfus at March 25, 2013 12:46 PM (VndSC)
Yeah. Bastiges.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2013 04:44 PM (GFM2b)
Oh, but its back on the air, only its now called "Doc Martin".
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 25, 2013 12:46 PM (UypUQ)
That's your fault you were watching the show after it went bungee humping after the mid 80s...
//mostly snark
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 12:47 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Jim Carrey at March 25, 2013 12:47 PM (wLY+G)
75 Speaking of box office bombs: Matt Damon's anti-fracking screed "Promised Land" did $7.6 million domestically.
http://tinyurl.com/cnlyobr
They've taken up a collection to pay the craft services bill.
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That movie 'Promised Land' was funded with evil oil money....United Arab Emirates, I think.
So let them pay for the craft services bill.
Posted by: wheatie at March 25, 2013 12:47 PM (UMBJ2)
Posted by: sandy burger at March 25, 2013 12:47 PM (+yb/5)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 12:48 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Waterhouse at March 25, 2013 12:48 PM (/yS3m)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 25, 2013 12:48 PM (yCvxi)
Because of the implication.
The implication that it's obviously filmed in LA?
Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2013 12:48 PM (KXm42)
Can't stand Tina Fey. In my mind she was the one who really gave the whole "Palin is stupid and isn't qualified to be President" meme legs, and I will go to my grave thinking it was a bit of a turning point and really harmed Palin's candidacy.
I thought Palin's real comment about Russia wasn't a bad observation. And so did quite a few other people. But then someone edgy, liberal and hip misrepresented it and trashed it, and then everyone (or lots of people) defaulted to the "Oh gee, the smart set and cool kids made fun of it so I need to hate her too" mode.
Palin was a good sport about it and was OK with meeting Fey. And Fey's response was along the lines of "Why should I ever want to meet her?"
Ugh. Odd, because I don't normally take all the stuff too personally. But for some reason, I've never been able to get past it and will always detest her.
Posted by: RM at March 25, 2013 12:49 PM (/Frlf)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2013 12:49 PM (LCRYB)
***
This^^^
Posted by: dananjcon self hating woploc at March 25, 2013 12:49 PM (jvd3N)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 12:49 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at March 25, 2013 04:45 PM (7v5Ct)
--He does a good funny bad guy. He was great in The Cooler.
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 12:49 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2013 12:49 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: hey jack! at March 25, 2013 12:49 PM (KHo8t)
There is a reason "Justified" isn't on the regular channels. And if it was, it would have been ruined in the first 3 shows.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2013 12:49 PM (IY7Ir)
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 12:49 PM (R18D0)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 12:49 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: clemenza at March 25, 2013 12:49 PM (HMQ8k)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 25, 2013 12:50 PM (JDIKC)
So let them pay for the craft services bill.
Posted by: wheatie at March 25, 2013 04:47 PM (UMBJ2)
Yes, the UAE was hoping that Americans would turn against fracking and stop the shale boom. Let the President, Sheikh Khalifa Bin Zayed, sell one of his gold plated planes and pay the bill.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wench at March 25, 2013 12:50 PM (kXoT0)
I love Big Bang Theory. But then I am a geek, have dated geeks, went to school with them, work with them--they are my peeps. I get them. My guy, who is a CPA, sits there and looks at me and says, "Sherry, it is funny, but, not that funny." I have to reply, "It is to me because they are the people I know."
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wench at March 25, 2013 04:42 PM (kXoT0)
I'm a computer and sci-fi geek who has his generation 1 Transformers in a glass case (seriously). Despite that, I still dislike Big Bang Theory. Perhaps if they cranked the hyperactivity and laughtrack down several notches then it'd be funny. (See: "Spaced").
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at March 25, 2013 12:51 PM (7xeJQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 12:51 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2013 12:51 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 25, 2013 12:51 PM (wLY+G)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 25, 2013 12:51 PM (JDIKC)
82 "I've always thought that deep down Tina Fey isn't really the liberal many think she is."
How high are you?
Posted by: Kaitian at March 25, 2013 12:51 PM (ahZqS)
Posted by: andrew breitbart at March 25, 2013 12:52 PM (Yfnhv)
YEah I was pondering that watching the show yesterday...
"12 episodes damn it..."
but if it were on the air for 24 episodes I wouldn't watch.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 12:52 PM (LRFds)
113 -
I just finished watching the "fat Mac" season on dvd, and I'm willing to give it some time, but the gang's humor seemed to be straining just as much as Mac's shirts were the entire season.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2013 12:52 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at March 25, 2013 12:52 PM (XvrTA)
Ugh. Odd, because I don't normally take all the stuff too personally. But for some reason, I've never been able to get past it and will always detest her.
Posted by: RM at March 25, 2013 04:49 PM (/Frlf)
--The funny thing is that, even though he's an ueber-liberal, Alec Baldwin was obviously smitten by Palin and enjoyed meeting her on SNL.
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 12:52 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2013 12:53 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 12:53 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 25, 2013 12:53 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 12:53 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 12:53 PM (DZ9ke)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 12:53 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: sandy burger at March 25, 2013 12:54 PM (+yb/5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 12:54 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 25, 2013 12:54 PM (feFL6)
Now that her show is off the air, and not doing HBO any good, I can admit in a post what I've given away in the comments: I thought Girls was seriously good in Season 2 and 3.
Posted by: Ace Five Years From Now
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 25, 2013 12:54 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 25, 2013 12:54 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 04:49 PM (R18D0)
Never found her fappable. IMO she's a bit mannish.
Posted by: dananjcon self hating woploc at March 25, 2013 12:54 PM (jvd3N)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2013 12:54 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 25, 2013 12:54 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 25, 2013 12:55 PM (wLY+G)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 25, 2013 12:55 PM (ahZqS)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 12:55 PM (piMMO)
yeah I love the whole "you have to force yourself to watch Tina Fey and Arec Borwin and lena Dunham or we'll lose everything!" schtick....
Champ if western civ's continued survival rests on my watching "Girls" uh the game's over sport....
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 12:55 PM (LRFds)
Pretend World is real. I have seen it.
Posted by: T.Hunter - Living in the Burning Time at March 25, 2013 12:55 PM (EZl54)
Posted by: 30RockFan at March 25, 2013 12:55 PM (Bk8Wa)
Posted by: tasker at March 25, 2013 12:56 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 12:56 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 25, 2013 12:56 PM (ahZqS)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2013 12:56 PM (4cRnj)
Poehler has set up the same dynamic in her show between Leslie Knope and Ron Swanson.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2013 12:57 PM (KqmXZ)
Posted by: zsasz at March 25, 2013 12:57 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 12:57 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2013 12:57 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at March 25, 2013 04:51 PM (7xeJQ)
maybe if they stopped with the nerd blackface, it might be funny
Posted by: The Dude at March 25, 2013 12:57 PM (vJdyz)
sort of, yes, given that it does seem impossible. But that sort of makes it interesting. Could it happen? I don't know. Seems unlikely.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2013 04:54 PM (LCRYB)
No sexual tension between me and Harry Reid.
So it *can* happen.
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at March 25, 2013 12:57 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 12:58 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2013 12:58 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 25, 2013 04:50 PM (kdS6q)
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Yup. Much like "Friends".
Posted by: Soona at March 25, 2013 12:58 PM (P4MEQ)
Posted by: Patrick at March 25, 2013 12:58 PM (LrlHu)
Accidental achievement sounds an awful lot like participation trophy but if they are being handed out I'll take one too.
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at March 25, 2013 12:58 PM (epxV4)
Ya know who ruins almost every movie she's in? Cameron Diaz. Always truly awful. But hey, consistent.
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 04:49 PM (R18D0)
Never found her fappable. IMO she's a bit mannish.
Posted by: dananjcon self hating woploc
She's a skeletor. She also has a strange face that contorts way the fuck too much. But I guess that's the only way you can tell she's not CGI.
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 12:59 PM (R18D0)
177 -
They gotta be able to do Jesus, or else their stuff on Scientology and Islam won't hold up. And frankly, I've never seen them EVER say anything negative about Jesus. He's one of the few characters on the show who has always been decent, at least.
That being said, and I've gotten into trouble here before for saying this, South Park hasn't been funny in about 5 years.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2013 12:59 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: tasker at March 25, 2013 12:59 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2013 12:59 PM (4cRnj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 01:00 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 01:00 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 01:00 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 25, 2013 01:00 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 01:00 PM (bxiXv)
I would love to see Conservatives completely turn off movies and T.V. made by leftards. I know it's a pipe dream. But think about half the country not supporting them. I would love to watch Hollywood squirm and go broke. Meh, I know, people want to be entertained and some can separate politics from the actor etc. I just can't. It would be cool though to watch those weasels wither on the vine.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 25, 2013 01:00 PM (wLY+G)
@201
Are you kidding? They rip Jesus all the damn time. They even had the end of the muslim episode shitting all over the Virgin Mary.
Posted by: Kaitian at March 25, 2013 01:00 PM (ahZqS)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 01:00 PM (piMMO)
Homos Gilding Trashed Victorians?
The only thing keeping that damn channel alive is cable channel "packaging".
Posted by: T.Hunter - Living in the Burning Time at March 25, 2013 01:01 PM (EZl54)
Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 01:01 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2013 01:01 PM (VyRoX)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2013 01:01 PM (KqmXZ)
f**k so the show did end on a high note then...
*&^& now I am almost tempted to be tempted to watch
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:01 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 25, 2013 01:01 PM (ZWvOb)
Seriously. My wife likes a lot of those "my first home" or home reno shows and, to be honest, it's like they seek out nothing but homosexuals. I mean, we're talking 5% or less of the population, and they represent a good 20% or more on those shows. Even the gypsy shows seem to be seeking out homosexuals. *Gotta* be the most over-represented group in shows/movies.
Posted by: Patrick at March 25, 2013 01:01 PM (LrlHu)
Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 01:02 PM (QH36x)
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at March 25, 2013 01:02 PM (7v5Ct)
Ace, I have discovered online that some people simply cannot get past their partisan glasses when watching entertainment. Liberals do it all the time, but it doesn't hurt them as much (i.e. - missing out on good stuff) because, unfortunately, there just isn't that much conservative movies/television. There is stuff we can argue has a conservative message - but not much stuff made by out and avowed conservatives or with an admitted conservative slant.
I watch all kinds of entertainment by people I loath politically, but separate the artist from the art. I'm even able to watch some skewering of conservatives and be entertained by it if it is clever and funny (usually, this type of thing when done explicitly is just preachy and boring/irritating. Liberals still claim to like it because they are "supposed to" but I think even they know deep down it isn't really good entertainment - the kind of stuff you have described as getting agreement applause rather than actual laughter).
I agree that 30 Rock was great overall and Alec Baldwin was mostly brilliant in it. Despite how much I disagree with him politically, I have liked a lot of Baldwins' stuff. I even like (in a cheesy way) Baldwin's Shadow.
Now, some people I tend not to watch because they only pick preachy-type liberal projects - a la Sean Penn (Milk - was there really any demand for that movie?).
I'm actually willing to bet that a lot of people who comment here that they "refuse" to watch this or that show actually watch the stuff but want to buy up some "conservative cred" by claiming otherwise.
If we all really refused to watch material made by idiot liberals, we wouldn't watch anything. It's like liberals who say you shouldn't shop at Walmart because it puts mom and pop stores out of business and conservatives who say you shouldn't shop at Walmart because a lot of their stuff is made by Chinese prison labor, and yet everyone still shops at Walmart
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 25, 2013 01:02 PM (sOx93)
Posted by: tasker at March 25, 2013 01:02 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2013 01:02 PM (LCRYB)
"Oh--you wanna talk about something that is just.gawd.damn. awful--
The Following."
I hear you. I like the crime stuff and I think Kevin Bacon is a good actor, so gave it a try. Maybe I picked up on the show too late (a few episodes into the season), but it did nothing for me.
Posted by: RM at March 25, 2013 01:02 PM (/Frlf)
Him and Satan, interestingly. His spirit-brother.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 25, 2013 01:02 PM (QTHTd)
Speaking of conservative characters on NBC shows, how about Ron Swanson of "Parks and Recreation".
In the most recent episode, "Bailout" liberal Leslie (Amy Poehler,) now a city councilwoman, wants to bail out a struggling video store. Ron tells her that government intrusion into the free market system brings no good.
Leslie gets the funds approved, and suggests to the owner he broaden his film selection from the serious art films that nobody seems to want to rent.
Later, Ron is giddy, and Leslie chagrined, when they find that the shop is now specializing in porn videos.
Posted by: Reno_Dave at March 25, 2013 01:03 PM (OL4L4)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 01:03 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Colonel Pooteh at March 25, 2013 01:03 PM (/tfqc)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 01:03 PM (FC8Yl)
Jeebus H Crisco.....
Jim Carrey, Thirty Rock, Friends, Psych.....
In my day.... we watched Gunsmoke, 12 Oclock High, Dragnet, Combat, The Rifleman. Funny shows were All in the Family, The Honeymooners. TV back then had balls.
Now wonder we've become nation of emasculated whiners.
And get off my lawn...... pussies.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 25, 2013 01:03 PM (nELVU)
Posted by: CAC at March 25, 2013 01:03 PM (0dDl5)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 01:03 PM (8sCoq)
212 -
I think you need to rewatch the Mohammed episode, because you seem to have completely missed the point.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2013 01:04 PM (TOk1P)
--Well, who the hell can afford to shell out more than $300,000 on a house these days? No one raising children, just homosexuals and DINKs.
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 01:04 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2013 01:04 PM (HeCg1)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 01:04 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 25, 2013 01:05 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 01:05 PM (QupBk)
You caught me.
I really do watch Girls, and I love it so much I am at least half of the 45,000 or so "real viewers' the show gets...
I don't have a 2000 dollar DVD collection of old stuff because I am running off sneaking to watch the Moonbat masturbation Show.....
I'd rather watch Columbo in black and white than any of this current shit on the Networks period.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:05 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 01:05 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Soona at March 25, 2013 01:06 PM (P4MEQ)
Hotter than Cameron Diaz (except in The Mask)
Posted by: Waterhouse at March 25, 2013 01:06 PM (/yS3m)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 25, 2013 01:06 PM (wLY+G)
Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 01:06 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 01:06 PM (8sCoq)
231 -
Sorry, I meant to say I've seen all the shows UP to and including the fat Mac season. I've seen none of the current season though. It's one of my favorite shows, but that season (which was 7, I think?) was bad.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2013 01:06 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2013 01:06 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 01:07 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 01:07 PM (bb5+k)
I used to watch "Sell That House", hosted by Tanya Memme and featuring Roger (really) the very sturdy, but unmistakably gay decorator. I couldn't care less about the house, I just liked looking at Tanya as she moved her assets. Yes, I'm just that shallow.
I haven't seen the show in awhile, so I don't know what she looks like now, but she was tending to chunky even back then.
Posted by: pep at March 25, 2013 01:07 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 25, 2013 01:07 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 01:07 PM (7PjX7)
so we can win the all important "water cooler wars"....
I far prefer the older laugh at their watching the shit as hurtfully as you can tactic...
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:07 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 25, 2013 01:07 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 25, 2013 01:07 PM (ZWvOb)
Posted by: Whatev at March 25, 2013 01:08 PM (A7Wh1)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 01:08 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: tasker at March 25, 2013 01:08 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Ghostly Aspiration at March 25, 2013 01:08 PM (2U4NN)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2013 01:08 PM (4cRnj)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 01:09 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2013 01:09 PM (LCRYB)
You say your wife just took off with her hairdresser
and your daughter is threatening to move to the rainforest with Armando the real estate agent?
and Armando only has eyes for your son?
Is that what's gettin' you down, bubby?
Posted by: Doctor Un's Revolutionary Cure at March 25, 2013 01:09 PM (bGlsD)
>> I would love to see Conservatives completely turn off movies and T.V. made by leftards. I know it's a pipe dream. But think about half the country not supporting them. I would love to watch Hollywood squirm and go broke.
Me too; I haven't had cable TV since the mid-90's.
But since most people just can't quit Hollywood, I like instapundit's Plan B: end the Hollywood tax breaks. Instead of changing the public, change Hollywood. When they're forced to live what they preach, they'll change what they preach. Tax them into conservatism. Tax, tax, tax.
Posted by: sandy burger at March 25, 2013 01:09 PM (+yb/5)
225 -
Well Satan did have his "Sweet 16" party, during which he was a jerk, but at least he learned his lesson in the end.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2013 01:10 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Colonel Pooteh at March 25, 2013 01:10 PM (/tfqc)
Also the first season of The Andy Griffith Show. The only characters that had their parts down at the start were Otis and Aunt Bee. Aunt Bee especially.
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 05:05 PM (QupBk)
Seinfeld had a grin on his face during the entire first season of Seinfeld. The grin got bigger as the joke line approached,.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 25, 2013 01:10 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 25, 2013 01:11 PM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 25, 2013 01:11 PM (UU0OF)
I'd do whatever gay dude successfully disguised her as a sexy woman in that movie. That guy knows things.
--
The only thing I know about Tina Fey is that if you don't agree she's the smartest, funniest, sexiest woman who ever lived, you're not only incalculably worse than Hitler, you're almost as bad as a Republican. So I don't watch any things she's in. That's not the kind of advertising that makes me want to obey it.
I saw one Weekend Update she did when she first showed up on it (how'd that happen?), but I don't know if she was any good or not, because Fallon was on the screen too, and he's so bad nothing around him can survive. My impression was that she had no jokes and made glasses face to signal where jokes were supposed to be. She was like Daily Show-era Jon Stewart, the one with no jokes, but less sexually appealing.
Posted by: oblig. is gay-themed at March 25, 2013 01:11 PM (cePv8)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 25, 2013 01:11 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 25, 2013 01:11 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 25, 2013 01:11 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Ken Royall at March 25, 2013 01:11 PM (x0g8a)
Yeah the internet wastes my time just as ably...well no "caught again" I am really watching 30 rocks and have my Dragon Voice writer doing the hard work....
those 3200 posts write themselves.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:11 PM (LRFds)
TV used to be 90/10 watchable / unwatchable. We're talking the 70s. It's now the other way around. Maybe worse. 5/95?
Name one network or cable channel with 90% watchable content today!
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 25, 2013 01:11 PM (pDRpv)
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 01:11 PM (R18D0)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 01:12 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2013 01:12 PM (G58bp)
Posted by: zsasz at March 25, 2013 01:12 PM (MMC8r)
But that's because white people find black people more interesting.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 25, 2013 05:11 PM (ZPrif)
----
Well..... if you can sing and dance.....
<kidding>
Posted by: fixerupper at March 25, 2013 01:12 PM (nELVU)
Well, have fun with that then. It will do conservatives good to be totally divorced from America's popular culture. That's how we will be able to relate to the vast majority of Americans who do not hide from popular culture (movies and television) because they disagree with the artists' politics.
I'm sure if we become wholly ignorant of popular culture it will, in the end, pay off in big dividends for the conservative movement. Our ideological purity - not watching some idiot liberal acting in a television show - will show the rest of America that we have strong principles.
Sorry, being a little sarcastic there. I don't really care what anyone else watches. I just find it hard to believe people are that "pure" in their watching habits.
Speaking of conservative characters on NBC shows, how about Ron Swanson of "Parks and Recreation".
I think to some extent the birth of conservatives being decently portrayed in these shows is because all of the regular cliche sitcom liberal stuff has been done to death - so this actually is fresh and different. Portraying someone as having common sense and regular values in a positive light is the new black.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 25, 2013 01:13 PM (sOx93)
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at March 25, 2013 01:13 PM (7v5Ct)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 01:13 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 01:13 PM (7PjX7)
Why are you so unwilling to believe that some of us don't watch TV? The internet seems to fill the void for me nicely.
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 25, 2013 05:07 PM (ZWvOb)
--Most of the TV I watch is sports or sports talk. The Office and Parks and Rec are riding into the sunset, and the aforementioned The Following is just a one-season affair. Otherwise, it's pretty much just The Americans and Vikings.
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 01:13 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 01:13 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 25, 2013 05:11 PM (pDRpv)
The Outdoor Channel
;-)
Posted by: fixerupper at March 25, 2013 01:14 PM (nELVU)
The last really funny comedy series I watched on the MFM was "Soap".
Posted by: Soona at March 25, 2013 01:14 PM (P4MEQ)
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 01:15 PM (QupBk)
(Do not Google "Lemon Party" images, or other "shock site" code-words: VNSFW!)
Posted by: MoJoTee at March 25, 2013 01:15 PM (e1kfW)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 25, 2013 01:15 PM (ZPrif)
I've always wondered what it is about a man taking a cock in the pooter that would instantly make him an expert on home decor and real estate.
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 01:15 PM (R18D0)
You're making a set of very big assumptions about several posters here.
I am sorta past the "gives three shits about liberal American pop culture" thing because I care a lot more about the ArkLaTex developing its own culture pop and otherwise.
You don't get divorced if you keep fucking your wife and letting her take all your money....you stay married.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:15 PM (LRFds)
Jetting off to the Bahamas on the taxpayer dime!
Posted by: Sasha and Malia at March 25, 2013 01:15 PM (/yS3m)
Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 01:15 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Tina Fey at March 25, 2013 01:15 PM (IDSI7)
@294
Never heard of it... but then again, I have no cable nor dish. I assume it's about scantily clad chicks out hunting and fishing?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 25, 2013 01:15 PM (pDRpv)
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 01:16 PM (QupBk)
Yup....
I look back on how good so much of the entertainment world there really was and look at this current valley of shit we're in and wonder "what the fuck if i drove professionally like these people write I'd only go in reverse and screw up all my manifests..."
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:16 PM (LRFds)
Gays are on TV a lot because they are unusual, so
people find them interesting. Posted by: Flatbush Joe
How come I'm not on TV? Lots of people found me interesting!
Posted by: Ed Gein at March 25, 2013 01:17 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 25, 2013 01:17 PM (feFL6)
Posted by: zsasz at March 25, 2013 01:17 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 25, 2013 01:17 PM (XYSwB)
Freakin' great. It's like film day at school when you had a gym coach teaching a shop class.
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 01:17 PM (R18D0)
Name one network or cable channel with 90% watchable content today!
MLB Network. And the 10% that is unwatchable is easy to spot....the name Bob Costas is involved.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at March 25, 2013 01:17 PM (jptKU)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2013 01:17 PM (TOk1P)
Hell acting like the tards in idiocracy and "bating" would be more healthy than watching their drivel.....
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:18 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: RiverC at March 25, 2013 01:18 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 25, 2013 01:18 PM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 01:18 PM (2aO3a)
Too bad they just cancelled What Not To Wear. (Not sure why I even know that.)
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 01:19 PM (R18D0)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 25, 2013 05:11 PM (pDRpv)
--ESPN Classic. 
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 01:19 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 25, 2013 01:19 PM (X6akg)
They feature all homosexual couples because they're going for that niche demographic of DINKs (Double Income, No Kids)...ie, gays, people with money to buy advertiser's products.
Posted by: zsasz at March 25, 2013 05:12 PM (MMC8r)
Protease inhibitors ain't cheap.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 01:19 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 01:20 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 25, 2013 01:20 PM (l3vZN)
which was the operational reason why Stalin liquidated around 80% of Operation Trest's Agents and operators...
he was smart enough to gather that hanging around as a honeypot with the capitalists trying to trap the darlings was teaching them to be capitalists....
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:20 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 25, 2013 01:20 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 25, 2013 05:07 PM (ZWvOb)
Whenever there is a post about movies/tv - multitudes of commenters jump on and say "I never watch anything with a liberal . . ." or something similar.
I don't doubt that there are in fact some people who don't watch tv at all, or even some people who refuse to watch outspoken liberals in anything. I just doubt it is in the numbers I am anecdotally seeing in the comments. It seems more of a "I'm a conservative hear me roar" type statement to me. An easy claim that nobody can prove or disprove.
It doesn't really matter to me one way or another, I just find it an interesting phenomena and I agree with Ace that we have to engage popular culture to have any chance at pushing conservatism forward - and all of the people claiming they refuse to watch anything by anyone liberal is the opposite of that - it is hiding from popular culture.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 25, 2013 01:20 PM (sOx93)
Posted by: tasker at March 25, 2013 01:21 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 25, 2013 01:21 PM (ZshNr)
of the exercise.
Posted by: archie goodwin at March 25, 2013 01:21 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 01:21 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 01:21 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 25, 2013 01:21 PM (zw+lX)
320 -
That 90% bar is impossibly high, isn't it? Has there ever been a network with 90% watchable content?
What, you're going to tell me when the networks were running Love Boat and Gidget, that stuff was high art?
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2013 01:21 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 01:22 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 25, 2013 01:22 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 01:23 PM (QxSug)
No one watched 30 Rock, or watches "Girls". There is no popular culture anymore.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2013 01:24 PM (4cRnj)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 01:24 PM (/gHaE)
no no we get it you are very superior to those of us who have decided to embrace the left's tactics of weaponized money use....
I watch shit with moonbats in it if it simply cannot be avoided and I crave the hit from the drug...
and there are cases....I watched the Batman trilogy knowing Bale and the rest are moontards.
but I assure you I was aware I was betraying my values, and one of my values is I don't pay to get shat on....
you train your significant others to do it for free.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:24 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 01:24 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 25, 2013 01:24 PM (YjDyJ)
MeTV.
All 60's and 70's stuff.
Speaking of 90% unwatchable...
NBC.
It gets to the point that Mrs VIA turns on the TV, and I put in earbuds to listen to Pandora, while I surf the HQ.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, now with a functioning at March 25, 2013 01:24 PM (1iC71)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 01:24 PM (NLH1M)
Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 25, 2013 01:25 PM (GVxQo)
Yeah, me too. But, I steal the FUCK out of it so they don't get a thin silver dime off my ass. Thanks BitTorrent!
Posted by: DanInMN at March 25, 2013 01:25 PM (eQsFJ)
Posted by: fluffy at March 25, 2013 01:25 PM (z9HTb)
hey Burt take the sven challenge.....
go watch Fantasy Fucking Island and this shit they call TV now...
there was a story, structure, and resolution of issues...
all shit that is damn near non-existent in "modern genius land"....
Emergency! is like Sir Larry Olivier by way of comparison.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:26 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: KJB at March 25, 2013 01:26 PM (ZhB0u)
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 25, 2013 01:26 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 01:26 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2013 01:26 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 01:26 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 05:13 PM (bb5+k)
If one doesn't watch it and feels nothing about it, why the need for all of these people who never watch it and never watched it to comment? If it did not matter to you at all - or to all the other commenters who refuse to watch liberal stuff - why do you feel compelled to come here and proclaim that you don't watch it in the comments on a post about the thing itself?
Do you go to amazon and post a comment for every book you have not read saying "I did not read this book"?
The fact that all of these people who allegedly are too pure to watch anything by a liberal feel some compulsion to comment on this thread and tell us about how they are too pure to watch this show sort of proves my point. It is crowing.
That you don't like the show or find it worthwhile does not take away from my enjoyment or appreciation of the show. We are here discussing the show - what does it add, except for you to feel good about yourself, to comment that you refuse to watch the show because you won't watch liberal dreck?
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 25, 2013 01:26 PM (sOx93)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 01:26 PM (DlaLh)
I'd rather worry about the people in the lifeboats getting to shore than leo DiCaprio doing his ice cube impersonation
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:26 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 01:26 PM (R18D0)
Yeah, me too. But, I steal the FUCK out of it so they don't get a thin silver dime off my ass. Thanks BitTorrent!
Posted by: DanInMN at March 25, 2013 05:25 PM (eQsFJ)
--Hell, in one of my places we even get cable for free. 
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 01:27 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 25, 2013 01:27 PM (B7hez)
Columbo may have been the best tv show EVER. EVER.
Posted by: QuintJessel
Banacek ~ Columbo
Mysteries with hot girls instead of Jack Cassidy wearing a scarf. And although you might be Columbo, you'd really want to live Banacek's La Vida Polka.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 25, 2013 01:27 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: pep at March 25, 2013 01:27 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: J. Carrey, SooperGeenyus at March 25, 2013 01:27 PM (MMC8r)
I don't have an exclusionary policy regarding liberal/conservative entertainers for the same reason I don't have it for restaurants and grocery stores: I would starve if I depended on conservatives only to provide my nurishment.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2013 01:27 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Tony253 at March 25, 2013 04:30 PM (PryWG)
I heard a clip of that. She's not funny in fact very lame and the half witted audience was laughing hysterically at everything she said. I think they even laughed when she said hello. Typical of the pathetic left
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 25, 2013 01:27 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, now with a functioning at March 25, 2013 05:24 PM (1iC71)
Head Nod
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 25, 2013 01:28 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 01:28 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 25, 2013 01:28 PM (ZWvOb)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2013 01:28 PM (4cRnj)
321 Greg Gutfield on Jim Carrey: "He is the most pathetic tool on the face of the earth and I hope his career is dead." "He's a modern bigot....knows in his heart he's a fraud." There was much more.....but he was talking so fast I couldn't get it all.
Posted by: Tami at March 25, 2013 05:19 PM (X6akg)
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I saw that too, just now...it was great!
Gutfeld went on to talk about what a great American Heston was, and how he marched with MLK.
He basically called Jim Carey a pathetic, no-talent insect.
And I heartily concur.
Posted by: wheatie at March 25, 2013 01:28 PM (UMBJ2)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 01:28 PM (KwX0v)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 01:28 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 05:16 PM (QupBk)
I disagree to the first part of your thesis and agree to the second. If nothing else, I dislike it for beginning the trend of bringing us "reality history" where people go find crap no one cares about places.
History Channel has gone from documenting the battle of Midway to delving into the shit in people's sock drawer. Mission creep.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 25, 2013 01:30 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 01:30 PM (QupBk)
353 -
I know I'm in the minority regarding Seinfeld. I've come to accept it. Or, I can accept a CERTAIN amount of caricature, because it's probably impossible to avoid it, but frankly I think they just went way too far and stopped trying.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2013 01:30 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 01:30 PM (QxSug)
MeTV.
All 60's and 70's stuff.
Speaking of 90% unwatchable...
NBC.
It gets to the point that Mrs VIA turns on the TV, and I put in earbuds to listen to Pandora, while I surf the HQ.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, now with a functioning at March 25, 2013 05:24 PM (1iC71)
I agree about Me TV but it and stations like it play the same shows over and over again. Are there really that many people that want to watch Maude and Bewitched on a never ending basis?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 25, 2013 01:31 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: DanInMN at March 25, 2013 01:31 PM (eQsFJ)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 01:31 PM (QxSug)
nope...
and?
Like i said in the boat is a lot more important to me than "trying to drown everyone with their stupidity"....
nothing personal and no opprobrium intended I used to want to save them, now I just want to escape them.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:31 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 25, 2013 01:32 PM (GVxQo)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 01:32 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2013 05:24 PM (4cRnj)
It is certainly more fragmented, but it still exists. I have no idea what the ratings are for Girls. 30 Rock was regularly watched by about 4.5 million viewers - which is decent. Nothing compared to when there were only 3 networks to watch.
I never said that 30 Rock was some kind of cultural phenomena or the top of pop culture - but it certainly is a part of pop culture.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 25, 2013 01:32 PM (sOx93)
And some type of streaming device, like a blue-ray player, or Raku (sp).
Tons of stuff out there, including BBC.
Mrs VIA has a TV with streaming Blue-Ray mounted in front of the elliptical we got seven months ago.
She lost 30 pounds, and can get lost in old TV shows for an hour at a whack.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 25, 2013 01:33 PM (1iC71)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2013 01:33 PM (4cRnj)
yeah it was...and folks forget that 'Happy Days" started off on for the period the soft porn "Love American Style" which I can still remember this jingle from when I was ~2 years old...
http://youtu.be/uNHuI0Pw0m8
dude....Love American style...
ah the '70s...
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:34 PM (LRFds)
John Taffer's bar makeover, however, is the best show on tv now
I love that show.....and Gordon Ramsey's Hell Kitchen....why?
In part because both are interesting individuals who are driven to be succesful.
But also, in part, that each makes indivduals own up to their own mistakes and shortcomings and address them.
I know, personal responsibility sucks....just give me my participation trophy and a juice box.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at March 25, 2013 01:34 PM (jptKU)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 01:34 PM (bb5+k)
Aside from the whole 'block-text' issue, this may well be one of my favorites comments posted on AoSHQ by anyone, ever.
Seriously. 1000% true, every fucking word, and I'm glad someone said as eloquently as you did. My god, the Public Shunning shtick is such bullshit.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 25, 2013 01:34 PM (bcLhD)
373 Insects got skilz, why the hate?
Heh. Yeah, they really *do*.
Silkworms are awesome...and butterflies, lunar moths, etc., are amazing.
Posted by: wheatie at March 25, 2013 01:34 PM (UMBJ2)
Posted by: zsasz at March 25, 2013 01:35 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 01:35 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 01:35 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2013 01:35 PM (4cRnj)
Gays are on TV a lot because...
Posted by: Flatbush Joe
A disproportionate amount of the people creating it are gay.
And many women find them charming in a "wears nice clothes but can't steal my man away" non-threating sort of way. See also mannish female daytime talkshow hosts.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 25, 2013 01:35 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Donkey Puncher at March 25, 2013 05:33 PM (yn6XZ)
She's got my seal of approval too. But if you're handing out Angry Dragons, who isn't?
Posted by: Angry Dragon at March 25, 2013 01:36 PM (t06LC)
Yeah and I was already mostly there in 2006 I am solidly there now.
Time spent not watching their dirvel can be spent honing your mind, and studying other skills.
I am happy that the Pioneer Project is getting rolling, and God willing one day I will be busy with my small business.
They can keep Moonbatardia, I plan to live.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:36 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 25, 2013 05:28 PM (ZWvOb)
Ohh, big daddy. Teach me. I'll bet I've been coming here longer than you've been out of diapers. Not every post gets everyone to comment. My point stands. Posting "I don't watch liberal tripe" is naval gazing. You are beating your chest like a chimp.
The fact that my observation (that I doubt people really refuse to watch liberal stuff) seems to have hit a nerve is yet further evidence of its likely validity. but, of course, we will never be able to prove it either way.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 25, 2013 01:36 PM (sOx93)
I get the reference, and yet...no, thankfully, not yet she's not.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 25, 2013 01:36 PM (bcLhD)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 01:36 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 01:37 PM (KwX0v)
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at March 25, 2013 01:37 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Colonel Pooteh at March 25, 2013 05:03 PM (/tfqc)
Maybe because 60% of the country thinks Palin actually said she could see Russia from her house because of that impression, and the fact that Fey has treated Palin like shit from the second they met? I guess some of the hatred is misdirected. Some of it should definitely be directed toward the subhuman propagandist filth in the media that reported Palin said it, and some should be directed at the worthless, feckless, drooling, incompetent subhumans in the McCain campaign for failing to push back against it.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at March 25, 2013 01:37 PM (KSjsb)
I comment on the not watching in directly inverse proportion to the folks who do in fact watch acting as though they are harder culture warriors for wading in amongst the crap friend.
so I rate it as Half 10000% truth.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:37 PM (LRFds)
Well, someone in Hollywood is sure gonna be fired for deciding to open a Paul Rudd movie on the weekend of the most wide-open NCAA basketball tournament in years. The tournament has received its highest ratings in 23 years, and that's with the Internet available. I'll bet this movie picks up some box office steam after the tournament is over, if it is any good.
And Tina Fey was hilarious in "Baby Mama" and "Date Night." She is really a great comedienne. I personally never liked "30 Rock" that much because it was just too ridiculous for my taste. But Fey was very good in that role.
Conservatives really need to get over the Fey/ Palin thing. Fey didn't ruin Palin's chances any more than Darrell Hammond ruined Al Gore with his "lockbox" impersonation in 2000.
Posted by: rockmom at March 25, 2013 01:37 PM (Ea7Up)
"Never go with a hippie to a second location."
"Rich fifty is the new forty."
"Lesbian Frankenstein called, Lemon. She wants her shoes back."
Posted by: J.Donaghy at March 25, 2013 01:37 PM (RgIRJ)
Posted by: confused lurker at March 25, 2013 01:38 PM (mibPO)
@405
But of course. Actually, its much more PG than a glass bottom boat, anything from cleavland, or an Alabama hot pocket.
But yeah. Don't try at home. Unless you pay a hooker.
Posted by: Angry Dragon at March 25, 2013 01:38 PM (t06LC)
maybe...I tend to think going out and finding the truly alvageable and helping them get past their multimedia addiction is a better play.
Sooth you know I love you baby....
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:38 PM (LRFds)
By season 4, people are all huge caricatures -- everyone has their schtick, and their schtick is now their defining characteristic.
Honestly though, I tend to like this.
I hate it, and it's how I know a show is done. The characters become silly, and usually very different from what they originally were. Alan on 2 1/2 men is a good example. He was straitlaced and competent in the beginning, and turned into a despicable worm. Likewise, Frank Burns in MASH went from the heavy to silly.
Posted by: pep at March 25, 2013 01:38 PM (6TB1Z)
Seriously. 1000% true, every fucking word, and I'm glad someone said as eloquently as you did. My god, the Public Shunning shtick is such bullshit.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 25, 2013 05:34 PM (bcLhD)
I do struggle with the damn formatting here. Sometimes I hit enter (i.e., for a new paragraph) twice, and my comment shows up as having hit enter like 4 times. Sometimes, as I did with that comment, I only hit enter once and it comes up without paragraph breaks. I hate the formatting here - I hate that you can't do block quotes.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 25, 2013 01:39 PM (sOx93)
right....because instead we should say "bite their f**king thumb off"
Look he ain't gonna be square dancing with Tina Fey and her teeth are safe....
but she should be sh*tting her enamel IMHO
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:40 PM (LRFds)
391....Seriously. 1000% true, every fucking word, and I'm glad someone said as eloquently as you did. My god, the Public Shunning shtick is such bullshit.
Ah, yes...like the Public Shunning of Conservatives that goes on every fucking day on the liberal-controlled media?
Conservatives are just supposed to take it, and shut up?
Posted by: wheatie at March 25, 2013 01:40 PM (UMBJ2)
I don't boycott these shows on purpose, its just that I don't care.
And they also don't play on Disney Jr.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 25, 2013 01:41 PM (t06LC)
I'll get over hating the left right around the time they get over calling me a racist....
so half past never.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:41 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 01:41 PM (eV8P8)
Posted by: mugiwara at March 25, 2013 01:42 PM (hpYnL)
If we all really refused to watch material made by idiot liberals, we wouldn't watch anything.
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That's me. I don't watch anything. No episodic TV shows, no movies. The only time the TV goes on is for live sports. Haven't been inside a movie theater since 1995 and I don't rent them either.
Posted by: I once was blind but now I'm still blind at March 25, 2013 01:42 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 01:42 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Ghostly Aspiration at March 25, 2013 01:43 PM (2U4NN)
BTB - Game of Thrones is starting back-up this weekend, so pay-cable tits and dragons for the next couple of months.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 25, 2013 01:43 PM (kdS6q)
Sven, I'm not trying to single you out in particular (I only do that to buzzion, DrewM., or DiogenesLamp), but the problem with this is that your earlier post was all about "I won't pay money to be shit on by these people!!" when the sorts of entertainment you were disclaiming wasn't actively attacking your politics.
Look, I GET the idea of not wanting to pay money (or spend time) to hear someone insult my personal beliefs and cultural values. Nobody thinks you should do that. But there's a difference between enjoying David Cross in Arrested Development or Mr. Show and listening to David Cross hurl splenetic and poorly-written insult jokes at conservatives in his stand-up routine. The point that Monkeytoe was making (and that Ace has made in the past) is that it's a poor life indeed that is lived with the "POLITICS" switch always flipped to "on," so that entertainment must viewed through the lens of the people behind the scenes making it. That's a desiccated view of cultural life, one of those sick leftist nostrums that ends up draining one's ability to enjoy anything unless it (and its creators) are Politically Correct.
Like, I love all manner of popular music from the '60s onward...imagine what my collection would look like if I had to only listen to stuff that was made by musicians that WEREN'T annoying liberal douchebags.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 25, 2013 01:44 PM (bcLhD)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 01:44 PM (bb5+k)
Same here. Most current TV shows are boring and stale.
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 25, 2013 01:44 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 25, 2013 01:44 PM (mUtZB)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at March 25, 2013 01:44 PM (jptKU)
No you're subhumanistic filth because well something to do with the inherent nobility of rewarding an industry for shitting on you so there! or something....
it's like I am getting past sports because they insist on sucking obama off with the final four shit and ramming their moonbattery into football.
Hey Roger you got your last buck from me buddy.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:45 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Patrick at March 25, 2013 01:45 PM (LrlHu)
Sadly, no.
Ask him about his theories concerning gay marriage!
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 25, 2013 01:46 PM (bcLhD)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 25, 2013 01:48 PM (XYSwB)
In order to comment and not look like a mook, you need to know the stuff, but not 'to know the stuff so you can comment on it' (this always backfires) but because you enjoy it, if you can find a way to (ace seems to have.)
Other than that, it's a good (no, great) idea to stay away from it as much as possible. I don't see how there's a conflict here.
Posted by: RiverC at March 25, 2013 01:48 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: zsasz at March 25, 2013 01:48 PM (MMC8r)
Jeff you are putting money into the pockets of people who have their switch on "all the time" champ.
That is all there is to it.
I am in survival mode now.
You want to pretend they don't jerk off to a fantasy America where we're an endangered species that's your look out.
I know better, I listen to them when they speak their own words as well as read the clown cards.
If a show entertains me I will watch.
I watch Elementary! so I cannot claim to be in total embargo mode....
sadly I paid CBS 24 bucks to get to watch the show as it evolves this season and will buy next season unless its stars go so overboard in the real world I can no longer do so....
but I would put a ballbat through my TV before I rewarded the Network with my Q impact on ad buys.
They want a fucking war they will not find me wanting.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:48 PM (LRFds)
So what is your interest in politics, then? You just want to insult people for not being as smart as you?
Seriously: politics is about reaching out to people with a message, playing on their level to get them to buy into what you're selling. You, it seems, just call that "pandering" and preen about how you're so above it...whilst simultaneously fantasizing about bashing a woman's teeth down her throat, presumably for the sin of making fun of Your Goddess.
Mmm-hmm.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 25, 2013 01:48 PM (bcLhD)
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 25, 2013 01:49 PM (feFL6)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 25, 2013 01:50 PM (J6kXj)
. My point stands. Posting "I don't watch liberal tripe" is naval gazing. You are beating your chest like a chimp.The fact that my observation (that I doubt people really refuse to watch liberal stuff) seems to have hit a nerve is yet further evidence of its likely validity. but, of course, we will never be able to prove it either way.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 25, 2013 05:36 PM (sOx93)
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Here's the thing...Hollywood and the producers of 'liberal stuff', always find other excuses for when their movies/tv shows...fail.
"It's the Recession"....or...."It was in a bad time slot".
Never, do they ever entertain the thought that people might not agree with the Leftist Propaganda that they are pushing.
It's always something 'else'.
So, I think we should bitch about it more, not less.
Posted by: wheatie at March 25, 2013 01:51 PM (UMBJ2)
Posted by: zsasz at March 25, 2013 05:48 PM (MMC8r)
--I have not watched any part of any episode of any of those. Flame on!!
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 01:51 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 01:51 PM (bb5+k)
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How does being a regular consumer of their products and keeping them in business and at the forefront of the Message Machine, courtesy of your money, figure into your strategy?
Posted by: mama winger at March 25, 2013 01:51 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2013 05:17 PM (TOk1P)
The only problem in season 1 was George's screechy wining.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at March 25, 2013 01:52 PM (7xeJQ)
Television shows and movies are supported by viewership. I choose not to be one, and I want to make sure everyone knows it. You see, part of the effort to damage their viewership is to let others know they are not alone in refusing to watch something.
Cascade and Herd theory dude.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 05:42 PM (bb5+k)
You say I'm spouting psychobabble by pointing out that you are doing nothing but crowing about your purity by jumping on a thread to proclaim you refuse to watch the subject of the thread - and your response is that you do so because of "cascade and herd theory"?
All I did was make an observation - but that observation appears to have really hit a nerve with a few people.
Also, you believe that if you assert on a thread about a show on a conservative web site that you refuse to watch the show because the actor in the show is liberal, you think other people will refuse to watch the show as well?
That's a mighty high opinion of yourself you got there.
Posting a comment that you refuse to watch a show is about as useful as posting "first".
I (and most people) watch shows because I like them or don't like them. I may give a show a chance if it is a big cultural "thing", but won't continue watching if I don't personally like the show. In contrast, I also don't not watch a show that I like or am intrigued by because the actor, director or writer is a liberal.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 25, 2013 01:52 PM (sOx93)
Posted by: © Sponge at March 25, 2013 01:52 PM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 01:52 PM (BUcLz)
Look at the GOP and most of conservatism and tell me it hasn't been low to medium grade pandering, with a bit of high grade pandering (McCain.) You can't take all the panderers and conveniently remove them from your group/party; conservatism was found unpopular and left untried.
Posted by: RiverC at March 25, 2013 01:53 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2013 01:53 PM (KqmXZ)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 25, 2013 01:53 PM (J6kXj)
"The Rivers Edge" - those kids were likeable comparatively
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 25, 2013 05:50 PM (J6kXj)
--The River's Edge also had a kick-ass soundtrack that Girls will never match.
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 01:53 PM (+iA5G)
Ratings have declined sharply for all TV shows in the last 10 years and cable shows have improved greatly. So many choices = more niches, less agreed upon culture
Posted by: The Q at March 25, 2013 01:54 PM (yVmMc)
pure autopoiesis.
Removes me of playing D&D games with some people. They play the same character every time, and it's basically them, but without scruples (or rather, societal/legal restrictions)
Posted by: RiverC at March 25, 2013 01:54 PM (KTytI)
what it takes to defeat democrats is democrats fucking up the freeshit cannon and creating cynics....
no really that's it...
we had that magical period in say 1960 where people figured out the new deal sucked in real time, and then the 80s...
in letting them get back the schools and the entertainment world we now have to have them destroy about 20 years of wealth potential in their periodic blood sacrifice to the marxist Gods...
it sucks, I lost...time to endure the pain and then make them pay again....
fucking cycles.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:55 PM (LRFds)
Here's the thing...Hollywood and the producers of 'liberal stuff', always find other excuses for when their movies/tv shows...fail.
Posted by: wheatie at March 25, 2013 05:51 PM (UMBJ2)
Don't forget about "teh PIRACY!!1"
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at March 25, 2013 01:55 PM (7xeJQ)
Honestly: how often do they show *entire* gay pride parades? Never. You know why? Because most people would be disgusted. Like those firefighters in San Diego who were forced to participate in the gay pride parade there one year by the lesbian fire chief, who were verbally assaulted (with wonderful things like "I hope you die in a fire") when they refused to respond to lewd come-ons and gestures from the homosexual parade attendees.
But, in the end, what can we do other than turn off the trash? Read a book, better for you anyway (except for college basketball, but that's just my personal bias).
Posted by: Patrick at March 25, 2013 01:55 PM (LrlHu)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 01:56 PM (bb5+k)
Have you ever heard of the so-called "Collective Action problem" that often comes up in discussions of social, legal, or political policy? Basically, what good is a "boycott" if you're the only person undertaking it? Soothsayer was pointing out that, in order to affect culture you have to engage in it, find out what the masses are interested in, get involved in shaping the conversation no matter how hard it is (this, of course, was also Breitbart's fundamental thesis: "politics is downstream of culture"). You, OTOH are saying you won't participate. Well, fine -- as an individual choice, you're free to do what you want. But as a political/cultural strategy, which is what I was talking about, it's suicidal. The game still gets played even if one team decides not to take the field, you know.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 25, 2013 01:56 PM (bcLhD)
Kind of...
my son gets it even if he never got the experience first hand...
asked out of the blue last week, "why do so many people like being evil in the Fable games?"
uh because the only reason they are not tribal fucking bald moneky types is "laws and consequences" son....
give 'em "freedom" and they unleash their inner asshole....
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:57 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 25, 2013 01:57 PM (S7KLd)
They aren't as bad, however, as the Toddlers & Tiaras tapes. I need a soul cleansing after those tapes. That show, if no other, is direct evidence that the anti-Christ is alive and well and walking this earth, and doing so in LA.
Posted by: Patrick at March 25, 2013 01:57 PM (LrlHu)
Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 01:58 PM (eV8P8)
Other than that, it's a good (no, great) idea to stay away from it as much as possible. I don't see how there's a conflict here.
Posted by: RiverC at March 25, 2013 05:48 PM (KTytI)
How is claiming one refuses to watch the show because the actor is liberal "knowing" anything about the show - the subject of the original post?
Again, I don't really care - I just find it interesting that it happens every time Ace (or any other conservative blogger) attempts to start a conversation about a show or movie - the multiple commenters who have to come on and state "I refuse to watch anything by _____"
I just think it is an interesting phenomena and I don't believe the people who assert it for the most part. (and don't really understand the need to assert it except to try and gain approval from other commenters?)
It's like liberals who say "I don't watch television" because they want to prove how serious and intelligent they are. B.s. Pretty much everyone watches television.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 25, 2013 01:58 PM (sOx93)
Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 01:59 PM (eV8P8)
I agree 100% with you, pandering works. That is how you get votes. I laugh at Republicans who are against pandering. They love the purity of defeat.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 01:59 PM (i2QHP)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 01:59 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 25, 2013 01:59 PM (ZshNr)
quite...I buy what I watch, I am a frugal shopper.
I have other things to do...like be here far too often, work, and well read.
30 rock "survived without me" and trust me I am surviving quite ably without helping pay Arec Borwin
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 01:59 PM (LRFds)
There comes a point where you forfeit out of principle. The principle of surrender is simple: When you know you cannot win you surrender the field. This is especially effective when it is expected that you should play and a spectacle made of your defeat because the rules were stacked against you. Much of what goes wrong in conservatism is attempts to 'play' which are really just idiot traps.
Saying, "I don't watch T.V. But have you read any Stevenson novels?" is valid; you're not trying to peacock, but show that you are an alien; that there is another culture that is vibrant and lives by a different set of assumptions.
Posted by: RiverC at March 25, 2013 02:00 PM (KTytI)
you pay the union rep with every bottle bud....
try a microbrew or better still become the Horde's braumeister and put in a kickstarter...
I'm gonna make Allen G a munitions magnate....
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 02:00 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Ghostly Aspiration at March 25, 2013 02:00 PM (2U4NN)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 25, 2013 02:01 PM (ZWvOb)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 25, 2013 02:01 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 02:01 PM (052zE)
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This is bull. You have no idea in what ways I participate at all kinds of levels. To say that I don't participate because I don't throw my money at a trashcan is absurd. The only way to impact politics is by watching Tina Fey and the assorted tripe that Hollywood feeds the masses? You are more doomed than you realize.
Posted by: mama winger at March 25, 2013 02:01 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 02:02 PM (bb5+k)
Read the book "Rhinemann Exchange" and perhaps you can get a clue as to what I am trying to get across to you.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 05:56 PM (bb5+k)
You are trying to get across to me that you are incredibly smart because you can name a book? That you are a great conservative because you "refuse" to watch anything with Tina Fey?
If you think you have a point, you are sadly mistaken. Like I said, I don't care, I just find it fascinating that you need to beat your chest about this and think you will change popular culture through these "tactics".
I know you believe you are smarter than me and are learning me something, but you are not. I understand what a herd mentality is. I know the theory behind "cascade preference". I don't think you understand how those things actually work.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 25, 2013 02:02 PM (sOx93)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 25, 2013 02:02 PM (CaJnt)
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Wait. Now there's a no mook rule?
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 25, 2013 02:02 PM (XUKZU)
nah couldn't be....
and see that's the thing they create fantasy worlds for a living.....
and the fantasy world they've created has room for Gay Castrated men who think they are lesbians who still fear the bicycle bar but none for ~40-51% of America
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 02:03 PM (LRFds)
It's like liberals who say "I don't watch television" because they want to prove how serious and intelligent they are. B.s. Pretty much everyone watches television.
He who accuses the whole world convicts only one.
Um, I don't. Never have, either. I'd feel more superior about it if I didn't waste all that time I saved watching folks wrangle in the comments section of political blogs. :p
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 25, 2013 02:03 PM (pwFUg)
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 25, 2013 05:56 PM (bcLhD)
We're familiar with that concept.
Posted by: Gonzaga and Georgetown at March 25, 2013 02:03 PM (PZQZZ)
Um...no. I've never heard of any contest between ADULTS where this is the rule.
You know what happened to armies that "forfeited" to their opponents because they were outnumbered? That's right, their countries were invaded, their land was annexed, and they were often slaughtered.
You know what happens to sports teams that "forfeit out of principle?" That's right -- THEY LOSE.
Nothing is gained by conceding the battleground. NOTHING. Except a more devastating loss, or a more complete victory for the opponent. That you would counsel such a thing as policy (rather than a personal choice, which I suppose is just fine) is, frankly, weirdly repulsive.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 25, 2013 02:04 PM (bcLhD)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2013 05:53 PM (KqmXZ)
Yup. I saw her when I would flip past SNL from time to time during my unemployment stint. She'd be blathering on about "BOOOOOOOOOOOOSH" and shitting on non-leftists in general during Weekend Update. I hated that bitch long before she ridiculed Palin.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at March 25, 2013 02:04 PM (7xeJQ)
No we lost the culture because *our* people in entertainment thought they were entertainers not political kommisars....
Alan Alda sadly seems to have kicked John Wayne's ass
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 02:04 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 25, 2013 02:04 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: The Q at March 25, 2013 02:04 PM (yVmMc)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 25, 2013 05:59 PM (ZshNr)
Exactly.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 25, 2013 02:04 PM (sOx93)
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 02:04 PM (i2QHP)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 02:05 PM (bb5+k)
496 sven10077-
Wrong it was Conservatives with their stupid culture wars that led to that. Attacking the popular culture turned people off.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 02:06 PM (i2QHP)
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We're still here. Murphy Brown is gone.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 25, 2013 02:06 PM (XUKZU)
So one time, while she was getting on about someone visiting a home, or something like that, I asked her how the cameraman was able to shoot from inside the house to the opening door if it wasn't scripted.
She wasn't happy.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 25, 2013 02:06 PM (1iC71)
463....Don't forget about "teh PIRACY!!1"
Oh yeah...and also...
"People are on the Internet and playing Video Games -- that's why our ratings are down!"
The producers always use any excuse they can, to avoid admitting that 'people are getting sick of our liberal propaganda'.
I've been boycotting the ABC channels, and not going to movie theaters for over a decade now.
And a lot of other conservatives have been doing the same.
But unless we shout out to them..."We're boycotting you assholes!"...they get to act like their losses are from some 'other reason'.
Posted by: wheatie at March 25, 2013 02:06 PM (UMBJ2)
Nah you're right....how's about I just start sending random cash to Sean Penn too?
I mean he's a suckass actor who peaked with "Colors" in my eyes....but fuck it I need to show what a man I am by just cutting out all the middleman bullshit and aiding my enemy.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 02:07 PM (LRFds)
"the sun was in their eyes"....being a horrywood exec is a lot like being a reds fan....
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 02:07 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 25, 2013 02:08 PM (PZQZZ)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 02:08 PM (bb5+k)
494 Jeff B
I think Conservatives love losing. It makes them feel pure and they view their ignorance of the popular culture as a virtue. We are dealing with the consequences of abandoning the culture.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 02:08 PM (i2QHP)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 25, 2013 05:59 PM (ZshNr)
I quit drinking Miller years ago due to it being "proudly union made" and it sucking, but mostly because of it sucking.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at March 25, 2013 02:09 PM (7xeJQ)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 02:09 PM (+7i2c)
They aren't as bad, however, as the Toddlers Tiaras tapes. I need a soul cleansing after those tapes. That show, if no other, is direct evidence that the anti-Christ is alive and well and walking this earth, and doing so in LA.
Posted by: Patrick at March 25, 2013 05:57 PM (LrlHu)
--Heh, of all people Jim Rome was making just this point last Friday. They already lived on the "winning" house, and the other two were just plants.
Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 02:09 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 25, 2013 02:09 PM (ZWvOb)
You'll need to draw me a map about how the right is even capable of "culture war" given the inherent nature of the conflict here...
I do not need to move to engage in WAR because I look at what the moonbats are selling and just smile at first at the raw idiocy of it....
nice try though.
I was there in the '70s when this shit started.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 02:09 PM (LRFds)
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I'm facing a personal crisis. I saw a trailer for the movie Gangster Squad which looks really cool with a bunch of cops in fedoras using Tommy guns to show the hoods what's what. But then I see that one of the stars is Sean Penn. Do all Sean Penn movies automatically suck?
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 25, 2013 02:09 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: sandra bernhard at March 25, 2013 02:09 PM (mibPO)
508 WalrusRex
Bullshit, it was Dan Quayle and his attacks on Murphy Brown that started his. Then Buchanan's culture war speech in 92 was the beginning of the Conservative culture.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 02:10 PM (i2QHP)
it'll allow you to give deep insight to the struggles facing mankind in language they understand by being able to say "evidently lena Dunham fucks ANYTHING with a heartbeat"....
I dunno but I am gonna go get my hairshirt on for thinking the last 15 years have been vapid retarded drivel.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 02:11 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: zsasz at March 25, 2013 02:12 PM (MMC8r)
Hi gerg....
no Gerg again...Murphy brown was just the latest drip in the pablum filled gruel bowl of leftards trying to make the blinky box seem like it was reality rather than our lives...
here's a clue the TV is make believe genius.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 02:12 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 06:10 PM (i2QHP)
The Conservative cause would be much better off if Pat had been born a couple decades earlier and subsequently sentenced to death by hanging at Nuremberg.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 25, 2013 02:13 PM (PZQZZ)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 02:13 PM (bb5+k)
516 Lemmenkainen
No one said to watch it. But ranting and raving that the show is evil and you will burn in hell for watching it, does no favors. Conservatives come across like stooges and scolds to people.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 02:13 PM (i2QHP)
But the problem is that we social conservatives are mean.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 25, 2013 02:14 PM (XUKZU)
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Agreed. When oh when will conservatives ever learn to just shut up and sit down at the back of the bus. Lesson One: When Hollywood speaks, you better close your mouth and nod agreeably.
Posted by: mama winger at March 25, 2013 02:14 PM (P6QsQ)
which goes back to what?
The media and the ONLY way we can change the media RIGHT NOW is violence and I am NOT advocating that just pointing it out.
They will sell to a terrorist enabling foreign network rather than *us* therefore...
I prefer to do side jobs, post here, and try to cipher out other shit to worry about....
so I am NOT tempted to be "violent"....
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 02:14 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: zsasz at March 25, 2013 02:15 PM (MMC8r)
Wrong it was Conservatives with their stupid culture wars that led to that. Attacking the popular culture turned people off.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 06:06 PM (i2QHP)
Yeah, we should've gone along with suspending that tire over people. Entertainment, baby!
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 02:15 PM (IDSI7)
520
508 WalrusRex
Bullshit, it was Dan Quayle and his attacks on Murphy Brown that started his. Then Buchanan's culture war speech in 92 was the beginning of the Conservative culture.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 06:10 PM (i2QHP)
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Who is this dickhead?
Posted by: wheatie at March 25, 2013 02:16 PM (UMBJ2)
528 : mama winger
I really do wish Socons would should up. You have been nothing but an embarrassment.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 02:16 PM (i2QHP)
Bullshit, it was Dan Quayle and his attacks on Murphy Brown that started his.
The sad part is that Dan Quayle was absolutely right, and the defenders of Murphy Brown were absolutely wrong, both as proven unequivocally by subsequent events.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 02:16 PM (IDSI7)
Not necessarily but then I go to the "buzz' files...
basically the buzz will have to convince me it is superior to "The Untouchables" to get me to go....
I am not "Cato the joke Spartan" I am sven the wary shopper....
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 02:16 PM (LRFds)
I really do wish Socons would should up.
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Is this supposed to be a sentence?
Posted by: mama winger at March 25, 2013 02:17 PM (P6QsQ)
I laugh at how you Conservative especially the Socon set claim you are for small government, but in reality you want the government to ban music and censor TV shows.
You are no different than Bloomberg.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 02:18 PM (i2QHP)
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 25, 2013 02:18 PM (feFL6)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 02:19 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 02:19 PM (Ba6aP)
You can't be against abortion an then knock a woman for keeping her kid. It's pure hypocrisy and why Socons are not taken serious by the American public.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 02:20 PM (i2QHP)
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 25, 2013 02:20 PM (feFL6)
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 06:15 PM (i2QHP)
I think anybody doing that is overreacting and their support may have been about as deep as a mud puddle; but I won't disagree that Buchanan is an absolute embarrassment and it irks me no small amount that people like Laura Ingraham continue to give him a forum. Let him go on the dimwit shows like Morning Aide Murderer or the McBlowhard Report.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 25, 2013 02:21 PM (PZQZZ)
I laugh at how you Conservative especially the Socon set claim you are for small government, but in reality you want the government to ban music and censor TV shows.
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Ah, the liberal reveals his stripes - their first impulse is to get the government to prohibit something, or mandate something else.
Nobody upthread said anything about the government doing shit. We wish the populace (The People(tm), to you) would turn away from this dreck. No government action desired or sought.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 02:21 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 25, 2013 02:21 PM (ZshNr)
You have nothing to say, thought so.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 06:18 PM (i2QHP)
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I have a lot to say. However there's a Biblical injunction against casting pearls before swine, and this being Holy Week, I think it might be wise to heed that advice.
Posted by: mama winger at March 25, 2013 02:21 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Straw Man at March 25, 2013 02:22 PM (MMC8r)
547 Jay Guevara
I am no Marxist, so do not even go there.
Explain to me how Socons will make people stop watching TV shows you do not like.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 02:22 PM (i2QHP)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 02:24 PM (bb5+k)
♪Hatin' on the Tina Fey♫
♪because they're morons♫
♫I think "Girls" is great♪
♪Don't ya hate the cons?♫
Posted by: I can't see for shit at March 25, 2013 02:26 PM (7xeJQ)
You can't be against abortion an then knock a woman for keeping her kid. It's pure hypocrisy and why Socons are not taken serious by the American public.
First, you have no idea what my views are on abortion.
Second, the point for those missed it, was that Murphy Brown encouraged illegitimacy. Sure, Hollywood actresses can afford to be single moms, and adopt a promotional six-pack of Third World kids without having a husband, but most women cannot, and encouraging them to have kids without a husband and father around to help raise and support them was cutesy/edgy but fucking irresponsible.
To repay you in your own coin of unwarrantedly attributing views to another, you claim to be "for the children(TM)," but are happy to encourage others to have them born into very tough financial circumstances.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 02:26 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 25, 2013 02:26 PM (feFL6)
I am glad there is push back on this thread against the Socons. More of us on the Right need to fight back against these phonies and crush their Leftist movement once and for all.
That is right, Socons are really Leftists from the William Jennings Byran school. They have hijacked the Republican Party and destroyed it. It's time to purge these Leftists who use God's name in vain and for political reasons.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 02:27 PM (i2QHP)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 02:27 PM (QxSug)
I am no Marxist, so do not even go there.
I said "liberal," not "Marxist," but at least we agree that liberals are, unwittingly in most cases, Marxists.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 02:28 PM (IDSI7)
That is utter nonsense. So what if a woman is with a loser? Is she supposed to stay with him?
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 02:28 PM (i2QHP)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 02:29 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 25, 2013 02:30 PM (feFL6)
I had to explain that I meant literally I'd let Marty Meehan have first swing at me with a louisville slugger in my youth....
that count?
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 02:31 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: The Drizzle at March 25, 2013 02:35 PM (ysCLj)
Posted by: The Drizzle at March 25, 2013 02:36 PM (ysCLj)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 02:36 PM (bb5+k)
539 533 wheatie
I laugh at how you Conservative especially the Socon set claim you are for small government, but in reality you want the government to ban music and censor TV shows.
You are no different than Bloomberg.
Posted by: Don't fake the font at March 25, 2013 06:18 PM (i2QHP)
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No, dickhead....it is the Leftists who censor and ban things.
How about that "even playing field" that the Left loves to talk about?
It doesn't exist in the media, where leftist views are pushed to the exclusion of all else.
Conservative writers and actors are discriminated against in Hollywood, and denied employment...based on their views.
Posted by: wheatie at March 25, 2013 02:37 PM (UMBJ2)
I think this is a symptom of a defunct system. I think we've made a lot of wrong turns in the past, and I think we are now at a point where the cost of past foolishness is about to come due.
If common sense has to pander it's way into power, then it's not going to work anyway.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 02:40 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 02:45 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: AmericanMom at March 25, 2013 02:51 PM (nu16a)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 02:54 PM (bb5+k)
I can name two books...
"frog and toad Together" and "hector had five mommies"...
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 02:55 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 02:57 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 03:00 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 03:03 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 25, 2013 05:34 PM (bcLhD)
Sadly, no.
Ask him about his theories concerning gay marriage!
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 25, 2013 05:46 PM (bcLhD)
Funny.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2013 03:04 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 03:06 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 03:08 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 03:10 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 03:15 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: exceller at March 25, 2013 03:16 PM (Z7Znk)
It's like liberals who say "I don't watch television" because they want to prove how serious and intelligent they are. B.s. Pretty much everyone watches television.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 25, 2013 05:58 PM (sOx93)
It's hard to watch TV when you don't have one. There is online streaming, but that sucks on low-end DSL plans.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2013 03:16 PM (oY6Yp)
Posted by: megthered at March 25, 2013 03:34 PM (iR4Dg)
Posted by: not the mama at March 25, 2013 03:46 PM (5dxeo)
Posted by: Buzzion at March 25, 2013 03:58 PM (a804Y)
Posted by: occam at March 25, 2013 04:19 PM (IBl/3)
Funny is funny.
Posted by: Elway at March 25, 2013 06:55 PM (0Enjw)
Posted by: haysoos at March 25, 2013 07:36 PM (u3N3z)
Honestly: how often do they show *entire* gay pride parades? Never. You know why? Because most people would be disgusted.
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Oh, you so got that right. I had the misfortune of being in San Francisco during the Gay Pride parade a couple of years ago. Made the mistake of going out and the parade cut me off from the conference hotel so I had to suffer through the whole spectacle. Now THAT was an eye opening experience for a midwesterner and not a good one. I never thought I'd see the day in the USA where grown men could be walking stark naked down the street of a major city in broad daylight, in front of small children and have the Chief of Police ... THE CHIEF OF THE FRIGGIN' POLICE ... ignore it because he was too busy marching in the parade and gladhanding the naked frolickers.
Pure and complete lawlessness.
Show THAT on the evening news a couple of times a month for a year and they can forget about gay marriage. Prison barges will be the debate.
Posted by: Bob at March 25, 2013 07:46 PM (u3N3z)
Posted by: BART SIMPSONSSON at March 25, 2013 07:59 PM (f3wXW)
I found I didn't miss the show at all.
Posted by: Calvin Dodge at March 25, 2013 08:07 PM (nVJae)
Somehow my big feet have stepped on your Monkeytoe. Of all the things worth arguing about, this ain't one of em.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 06:54 PM (bb5+k)
Funny. I'm not arguing. I'm observing. You are trying to refute my observation. about people who feel compelled to proclaim that they don't watch the show a post is about out of ideological purity. And to continue fighting and proclaiming you are somehow doing something high minded and philosophical through such proclamations.
I merely pointed out how goofy that was. I'm not fighting, I'm poking fun. If you think we have been arguing, you are mistaken. I've thought this whole thing was a joke from the get-go and was - and still am - having fun tweaking those who feel the need to chest thump their ability to not watch some particular actor because of political ideology. It just makes me laugh and I thought I would post my interpretation of this practice. I guess, in hindsight, I should have expected the outrage it caused.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 26, 2013 03:45 AM (sOx93)
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 05:45 PM (LRFds)
Sure, you can get that from what I wrote I guess. If you're delusional.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 26, 2013 03:52 AM (sOx93)
Nah you're right....how's about I just start sending random cash to Sean Penn too?
I mean he's a suckass actor who peaked with "Colors" in my eyes....but fuck it I need to show what a man I am by just cutting out all the middleman bullshit and aiding my enemy.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 06:07 PM (LRFds)
Sure. that is exactly my point. If you read everything I wrote - that is clearly what I am saying. I take it you watch no television, see no movies, see no plays, listen to no music and only read books written by proven rock hard conservatives?
Silly.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 26, 2013 03:54 AM (sOx93)
No pretty much the subtle common thread in all this you need to be in a coro flick shit on pop culture is that thesis...
thanks for playing
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