April 17, 2013

Toomey-Manchin Fails on Cloture Vote, 54-46; Four Democrats Vote for Filibuster
— Ace


You.

So that's done.

Manchin:

“If you want to remember those 20 babies… please consider you should vote for this bill.”

I can conceive of a hypothetical bill which might protect some babies, which I do not think the Democratic caucus would support.

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1 BREAKING: Toomey gets Sirota'd

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:34 PM (tqLft)

2 suck it! “If you want to remember those 20 babies… please consider you should vote for this bill.” complete irony free zone, eh?

Posted by: joeindc44 says 75 out of 77 scientists who answered my poll agree with this post at April 17, 2013 12:34 PM (QxSug)

3 Dear Michael Bloomberg:  Get a bigger phonebook to stand on you cretinous Napoleon wannabe.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 17, 2013 12:35 PM (EDjKF)

4

This fight will never, ever end. 

 

Ever.

Posted by: Jaws at April 17, 2013 12:35 PM (4I3Uo)

5

Four Republicans voted for it. Kirk, McCain, Collins and Toomey.

 

Fucking idiots.

Posted by: Ben at April 17, 2013 12:35 PM (C2Y4l)

6 BAM!

Posted by: ALittleEnglish at April 17, 2013 12:35 PM (lhX9P)

7 too bad the gun clinging bitter voters of WVA aren't organized enough to issue a recall of this joker.

Posted by: joeindc44 says 75 out of 77 scientists who answered my poll agree with this post at April 17, 2013 12:35 PM (QxSug)

8 I can conceive of a hypothetical bill which might protect some babies, which I do not think the Democratic caucus would support.

Posted by Ace at 04:33 PM Comments


Zing!  * thumbs up *

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 17, 2013 12:36 PM (UypUQ)

9 @5 "Four Republicans voted “yes”: Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.)." Eject them with high velocity, like a frisbee with its own NO and turbo, from our party. I mean, w t f ?

Posted by: Thorvald at April 17, 2013 12:37 PM (1V6Pv)

10 no Dem should ever invoke "babies" not ever.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 17, 2013 12:37 PM (2up3Q)

11 Newtown, CT should consider disbanding their police force. When bad comes to worst, they fail.

Posted by: fluffy at April 17, 2013 12:37 PM (IHJWO)

12 It's only wrong to kill a baby when then mother doesn't want it.

Posted by: cranky-d at April 17, 2013 12:37 PM (2McOz)

13 No One Knows What's Going On In Washington DC. (either).

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 17, 2013 12:37 PM (71LDo)

14 please tell me not to gloat. hold me back! my family will disown me

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 17, 2013 12:37 PM (2up3Q)

15 We need to try to turn Gosnell into Adam Lanza. If Manchin really wants to protect babies...and women, even, he can lead that charge.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at April 17, 2013 12:37 PM (YmPwQ)

16 *cheers to that

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 17, 2013 12:38 PM (XYSwB)

17 Reid voted NO. That means he can bring it back.

Posted by: Crashpanic at April 17, 2013 12:38 PM (zufx8)

18 11 no Dem should ever invoke "babies" not ever. AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 17, 2013 12:38 PM (RDaRj)

19 I can conceive of a hypothetical bill which might protect some babies, which I do not think the Democratic caucus would support. Posted by Ace at 04:33 PM Comments Nice. All "babies" are equal, but some are more equal than others. I have gathered from recent events that apparently in libland white middle to upper-middle class 6 year-olds are more equal than poor black actual babies.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 17, 2013 12:38 PM (6zgse)

20 “If you want to remember those 20 babies… please consider you should vote for this bill.”

I'm pretty sure he remembers those babies, every time he masturbates.

Posted by: Heralder at April 17, 2013 12:38 PM (+xmn4)

21

"This fight will never, ever end.

Ever."

 

No, it won't.

 

It's getting to be time to part ways.

 

The Red States and the Red Counties of the Blue States need to start heading out on their own.

 

The great immigration experiment of the late 19th Century and the early 20th Century has proven to be a catastrophic failure, and has resulted in the death of what had been the Republic.

 

It's time to start salvaging the pieces which are still salvageable.

 

 

Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 17, 2013 12:38 PM (dScAL)

22 16 please tell me not to gloat. hold me back! my family will disown me Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 17, 2013 04:37 PM (2up3Q) Now, WE'RE your family....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:38 PM (tqLft)

23 Wait, McCain and Graham voted differently? Somebody got kicked out of the apartment!

Posted by: The Q at April 17, 2013 12:39 PM (69UnD)

24

Perhaps Senator Manchin would like to cast a vote on a bill which remembers all of  the babies who were killed in Kermit Gosnell's clinic.  I'm pretty sure there were more than 20.

 

No?

 

Then STFU.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at April 17, 2013 12:39 PM (ADnWI)

25

Am I wrong or can Reid reintroduce this POS because  fuck you?

Posted by: Jaws at April 17, 2013 12:39 PM (4I3Uo)

26 Time to go outside and fire some rounds off into the air in celebration

Posted by: Ben at April 17, 2013 12:39 PM (C2Y4l)

27 That means he can bring it back.

A bill that's just a blank sheet with an amendment plopped onto it always has a life of its own.  Reid is a Prick BTW.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 17, 2013 12:39 PM (71LDo)

28 “If you want to remember those 20 babies ========= That's right! Remember how Lanza bought his guns in a gun show parking lot without a background check? Me too!

Posted by: Jay in PA at April 17, 2013 12:39 PM (WSgyE)

29 17 We need to try to turn Gosnell into Adam Lanza. If Manchin really wants to protect babies...and women, even, he can lead that charge. I approve this message

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 17, 2013 12:39 PM (RDaRj)

30 >Four Republicans voted “yes”: Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.).<

Toolset.

Posted by: Marcus at April 17, 2013 12:40 PM (GGCsk)

31 Chimera makes for interesting mythology, but it's crap for legislation.

Posted by: Jose Wales at April 17, 2013 12:40 PM (lPbS1)

32 23 The great immigration experiment of the late 19th Century and the early 20th Century has proven to be a catastrophic failure, and has resulted in the death of what had been the Republic. It's time to start salvaging the pieces which are still salvageable. Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 17, 2013 04:38 PM (dScAL) Some of my ancestors came here during that period and LOVED this country and its institutions. Don't blame good people seeking a better life AS AMERICANS for the failings of a few commie zealots and their blue-blooded counterparts from right here.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:40 PM (tqLft)

33 Full speed ahead, gloat factor 5.  I may have to send some nice letters to 'my' senators (Kirk, Turbin).  And I voted for Kirk.  May be for the last time.

Posted by: CUS at April 17, 2013 12:40 PM (84pE9)

34 I reckon we can count on these four progressive RINOs to vote the wrong way on amnesty too.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at April 17, 2013 12:40 PM (epxV4)

35 It's dead, Jim...



... for now.

Posted by: Bones McCoy at April 17, 2013 12:40 PM (XHNYW)

36 The bad news is part of the reason this bill failed is that some of the GOP senators plan to vote for amnesty later and don't want to anger the base twice. And amnesty is far more important. 

Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at April 17, 2013 12:41 PM (CfjR/)

37 Gun Control

Pressure Cookers

David Sirota

CNN

Ricin

Megan Kelly

Backpacks


What's the connection, guys?


Posted by: Strife at April 17, 2013 12:41 PM (ntNJz)

38 32 >Four Republicans voted “yes”: Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.).< Toolset. Posted by: Marcus at April 17, 2013 04:40 PM (GGCsk) Can't believe Goober didn't vote with his puppet-master McShame.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:41 PM (tqLft)

39 WalMart's bullet shelves are still bare of 22LRs, as they will be for the duration of TFG's term. He framed that whole thing as them versus us, and those thems are gonna keep stocking up on ammo.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at April 17, 2013 12:41 PM (PH+2B)

40 If you want to remember those 20 babies� please consider you should vote for this bill.� --- Hey Manchin, how would you like this one turned around on you by someone asking to remember "those hundreds of babies" killed by Gosnell?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 12:41 PM (+x8q5)

41 If you want to remember those 20 babiesÂ…

Every first grader I've ever met would kick Manchin in the shins for calling them "babies."

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 17, 2013 12:41 PM (/kI1Q)

42 OT:  If I hear the term "Caucasian" one more time I kill 10 kittens, and 5 bunnies.

My heritage has 0 link to the Caucuses or Asia (well.  5 generations back, at least).  I'm German, Italian, Dutch and Apache.  I'm white.  White as the driven snow.

But I'm not from the freaking Caucus mountain region!  Jackasses! 

/rant off

Posted by: tangonine at April 17, 2013 12:41 PM (x3YFz)

43 This whole issue just shows that liberalism is a child's philosophy, which cowardly and/or opportunistic Republicans often submit to, even if they disagree. Because we all know not wanting 20 dead "babies" automatically equates to wanting to restrict the 2A rights of law-abiding citizens. Oh, and way to go, Pat Toomey. You covered yourself in glory there, didn't you, and preceded Marco Rubio into infamy.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 17, 2013 12:41 PM (6zgse)

44 I have gathered from recent events that apparently in libland white middle to upper-middle class 6 year-olds are more equal than poor black actual babies. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 17, 2013 04:38 PM (6zgse) Sad, but true.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at April 17, 2013 12:42 PM (encrR)

45 >I can conceive of a hypothetical bill which might protect some babies, which I do not think the Democratic caucus would support. <

The "Creating Trust Fund Babies Bill"?

Posted by: Marcus at April 17, 2013 12:42 PM (GGCsk)

46 Any bill written to go against guns should be a bill of attainder against David Sirota showing his

Posted by: The Q at April 17, 2013 12:42 PM (69UnD)

47

@5 "Four Republicans voted “yes”: Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.)."

 

I'm sorry, but thank fucking God that McCain wasn't elected. Imagine all the horseshit he would have been happy to Maverickally Bi-Partisan down our throats.

Posted by: ALittleEnglish at April 17, 2013 12:42 PM (lhX9P)

48 Time to go outside and fire some rounds off into the air in celebration Just shoot 'em thru the door.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2013 12:42 PM (GFM2b)

49 “If you want to remember those 20 babies… please consider you should vote for this bill.” Oh go get fucked.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 12:42 PM (VtjlW)

50 Huzzah!

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 17, 2013 12:42 PM (fwARV)

51 26 Perhaps Senator Manchin would like tocast a voteon a bill whichremembers all of the babies who were killed in Kermit Gosnell's clinic. I'm pretty sure there were more than 20. No? Then STFU. Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at April 17, 2013 04:39 PM (ADnWI) THIS. In his face. Too bad someone on our side didn't have that retort in the well of the Senate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:43 PM (tqLft)

52 I can conceive of a hypothetical bill which might protect some babies, which I do not think the Democratic caucus would support. Posted by: Ace at 04:33 PM Yes, but these babies were white. And that matters. Right Gosnell?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 12:43 PM (GEICT)

53 40 32 >Four Republicans voted �yes�: Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.). --- Kirk and Collins have the excuse that they are from blue states. Toomey has the excuse that he co-authored the piece of shit in question. McCain has no excuse.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 12:43 PM (+x8q5)

54 So five Republicans voted for it then.

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 12:43 PM (QupBk)

55 “If you want to remember those 20 babies… please consider you should vote for this bill.”


A bill to protect babies born alive after a botched abortion though - that's a bridge too far.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 17, 2013 12:43 PM (fwARV)

56 Reid voted NO. That means he can bring it back. *** Jamie Dupree ‏@jamiedupree 7m I don't consider Reid to be a 'No' vote - Democrats were five votes short of the 60 needed on Manchin-Toomey

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2013 12:43 PM (piMMO)

57 Hey, let's not send an official party to Thatcher's funeral because Joe Biden and that woman made the difference in this vote or something.

It is STILL an un-fact to half the country that the other half of the country exists...and does not like them.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 17, 2013 12:43 PM (EDjKF)

58 Oh, and way to go, Pat Toomey. You covered yourself in glory there, didn't you, and preceded Marco Rubio into infamy. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 17, 2013 04:41 PM (6zgse) Poor Pat Toomey, he will now be remembered as earninig the bonehead political move of the year award.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at April 17, 2013 12:43 PM (encrR)

59 Alright my gentle morons, headed out.  Hopefully I'll see you tomorrow.

Posted by: Heralder at April 17, 2013 12:44 PM (+xmn4)

60 20 babies. That's the number of funerals in a couple of weekends in Chicago.   Or  one week, if it's summertime.

Posted by: Roy at April 17, 2013 12:44 PM (VndSC)

61 >Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), absent from the upper chamber for weeks, appeared in a wheelchair today to cast votes. He voted “yes” on Manchin-Toomey as his Democratic colleagues applauded.<

Hilarious.

Democrats would prop up a dead man in a chair to get a vote. It's like "Weekend at Frank's" or something.

Posted by: Marcus at April 17, 2013 12:44 PM (GGCsk)

62 Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 17, 2013 04:38 PM (6zgse) Planned Parenthood: Doing the job their KKK counterparts couldn't do... as effectively.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:44 PM (tqLft)

63 I'm sorry, but thank fucking God that McCain wasn't elected. Imagine all the horseshit he would have been happy to Maverickally Bi-Partisan down our throats. *** No shit!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2013 12:44 PM (piMMO)

64 Stupid white American males! - BAM! *hits self in face - immediately starts obsessing over slightly red mark in the mirror*

Posted by: David Sirota at April 17, 2013 12:44 PM (R18D0)

65 Oh go get fucked. Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 04:42 PM (VtjlW) *sidles over* Hi.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 12:44 PM (GEICT)

66 What's the connection, guys?


Posted by: Strife at April 17, 2013 04:41 PM (ntNJz)


The Illuminati. Or groans of pleasure, in MK's case.

Posted by: joncelli at April 17, 2013 12:44 PM (RD7QR)

67

<i>Some of my ancestors came here during that period and LOVED this country and its institutions. Don't blame good people seeking a better life AS AMERICANS for the failings of a few commie zealots and their blue-blooded counterparts from right here. </i>

 

But your ancestors were too few and too meek.

 

American ideals were simply overwhelmed by the importation of too many people who came here [and who continue to come here] with the explicit purpose of destroying this nation.

 

It's time to cut our losses and to salvage what can be salvaged.

 

 

Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 17, 2013 12:44 PM (dScAL)

68 Votes going on the Cruz bill...

Posted by: Crashpanic at April 17, 2013 12:44 PM (zufx8)

69 63 Democrats would prop up a dead man in a chair to get a vote. It's like "Weekend at Frank's" or something. Posted by: Marcus at April 17, 2013 04:44 PM (GGCsk) Chicago voting booths, every 2-4 years. They are well practiced in the zombie vote.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:45 PM (tqLft)

70 Eight months until the midterm election cycle starts, looks like this ate up a month. Hopefully, the immigration mess will do the same. Then some contentious hearings into the Boston attacks, another. That gets us to summer recess. Another fiscal "crisis", perhaps a Euro crisis ... can we stall and play small ball long enough?

Posted by: Jean at April 17, 2013 12:45 PM (DcbLC)

71 Remember the shit that Manchin has said the next time we're expected to believe that he's a "blue dog" who we can worked with.  Fuck him and the ignorant hilljacks who put him in place.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 17, 2013 12:45 PM (HL/Lt)

72 Oh go get fucked.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 04:42 PM (VtjlW)

That's just keeping Gosnell in business...

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 17, 2013 12:45 PM (fwARV)

73 Good riddance to bad trash. And may the leftards burn in hell. They love kids so much they advocate murdering them in womb and post birth. Thats how much they give a fuck about kids. Lying scumsucking pig turds.

Posted by: maddogg at April 17, 2013 12:45 PM (OlN4e)

74 Fuck!

I suck at this sock thing.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 17, 2013 12:45 PM (fwARV)

75 20 babies? That's too many babies!! Where's Kermit when you need him?!

Posted by: Truman North at April 17, 2013 12:45 PM (I2LwF)

76 Is this fool confused with Kermit Gosnell? I guess he meant "Newtown." Asshat.

Posted by: ChrisyBlinky,Sarcastic and Cynical Redneck Queen needs more proof at April 17, 2013 12:46 PM (baL2B)

77 I wonder if Manchin tells the voters in his state "your guns for babies, you guys".

Posted by: Marcus at April 17, 2013 12:46 PM (GGCsk)

78

Any bill with  hyphenated Senators' names  attached to it should fail miserably. They always suck.

Right,  McCain, Feingold, Frank, Dodd, Tweedle-Dee, Tweedle-Dum???

Posted by: Roy at April 17, 2013 12:46 PM (VndSC)

79 Reposted from last thread: Not a joke. Sorry to go OT, but these are idiot politicians we are talking about, so maybe it is not so off topic.

Max Baucus has today shocked his fellow democrats by admitting that the ACA (of which he is an important author) is a "train wreck".

I read it on Yahoo.

Posted by: navybrat at April 17, 2013 12:46 PM (l7mJv)

80 Dear Michael Bloomberg: Get a bigger phonebook to stand on you cretinous Napoleon wannabe. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 17, 2013 04:35 PM (EDjKF) As always, obligatory - http://bit.ly/LrYw8Z

Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 12:46 PM (VtjlW)

81 Pat Toomey is a fargin moron (not in the good way) since this state is - blue or no - very pro 2nd Amendment heard a LOT of nasty grumbling on this in the "very liberal pricy Philly burbs" even the WIVES were ticked at him SO WHY DO IT PAT?!?! I say, he's a bonehead. A total dunce. Seriously! Did he used to box or play football?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 17, 2013 12:46 PM (2up3Q)

82 81 Any bill with hyphenated Senators' names attached to it should fail miserably. They always suck.
Right, McCain, Feingold, Frank, Dodd, Tweedle-Dee, Tweedle-Dum???

Posted by: Roy at April 17, 2013 04:46 PM (VndSC)


Any bill from the Senate will most likely suck

Posted by: Red Shirt at April 17, 2013 12:47 PM (FIDMq)

83 I can't decide if the dumbest conservative voters in the country are the ones in South Carolina who vote for Grahamnesty, or the ones in West Virginia who vote for Manchin.  

Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at April 17, 2013 12:47 PM (CfjR/)

84 69 Some of my ancestors came here during that period and LOVED this country and its institutions. Don't blame good people seeking a better life AS AMERICANS for the failings of a few commie zealots and their blue-blooded counterparts from right here. But your ancestors were too few and too meek. American ideals were simply overwhelmed by the importation of too many people who came here [and who continue to come here]with the explicit purpose of destroying this nation. It's time to cut our losses andto salvage what can be salvaged. Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 17, 2013 04:44 PM (dScAL) Um, no. They were weakened by a few in the media and academia that took hold in the late 60's and early 70's. The immigrants who came here helped build this country into a superpower and whose sons saved the world in 2 world wars. Stop denigrating legal immigrants who come here by and large to be Americans and love this country. Your words are bigoted and plain wrong in the main.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:47 PM (tqLft)

85 Breaking; WHITE MALES seen voting to dilute the Second Amendment.

Posted by: Marcus at April 17, 2013 12:47 PM (GGCsk)

86 Sen Toomey just tweeted: Senator Pat Toomey ‏@SenToomey 2m I did what I thought was the right thing for our country. Lame

Posted by: Jay in PA at April 17, 2013 12:48 PM (WSgyE)

87 Every first grader I've ever met would kick Manchin in the shins for calling them "babies."

I called my six year old niece "sweetie" one time and I guess she heard "baby".  She was pretty pissed.  "I'm not a baby!"  *stomp*stomp*stomp*


Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2013 12:48 PM (45N4D)

88 What have I missed?  System decided to crash.  Rebotted and Flash said Install me.

So has Harrison Ford caught the one armed man?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 12:48 PM (OCvUs)

89 Well, look at all of those politicians voting to protect their phony-baloney jobs.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at April 17, 2013 12:48 PM (hLRSq)

90 *sidles over* Hi. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 04:44 PM (GEICT) Arrrrgghhh! I'm blinded by the nobility!

Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 12:48 PM (VtjlW)

91

Senator Pat Toomey þ@SenToomey 2m
I did what I thought was the right thing for our country.

 

 

He resigned?

Posted by: Roy at April 17, 2013 12:48 PM (VndSC)

92 That pic is terrifying. The terrorists may have already won.

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 17, 2013 12:48 PM (8/DeP)

93 Enough with the Sirota pictures. You're scaring the children.

Posted by: Marcus at April 17, 2013 12:48 PM (GGCsk)

94 90 Sen Toomey just tweeted: Senator Pat Toomey ‏@SenToomey 2m I did what I thought was the right thing for our country. Lame --- At the risk of invoking Godwin's Law, there were a bunch of people who did what they thought was right for their country in the 30s and 40s.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 12:49 PM (+x8q5)

95 His eyes are looking at me, but his finger is pointing over my right shoulder... Is there a bear behind me?!

Posted by: Aruges at April 17, 2013 12:49 PM (MDchW)

96 I say, he's a bonehead. A total dunce. Seriously! Did he used to box or play football?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 17, 2013 04:46 PM (2up3Q)

 

It has never been scientifically proven that constant slapping of balls against the chin causes brain injury.

Posted by: Pat Toomey at April 17, 2013 12:49 PM (ggRof)

97 Thus proving republicans are pro jogging bombing.

Posted by: Whatev at April 17, 2013 12:49 PM (A7Wh1)

98 Arrrrgghhh! I'm blinded by the nobility! Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 04:48 PM (VtjlW) That's not nobility. *wink*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 12:49 PM (GEICT)

99 The Leahy-Collins amendment "Ensures that lawful gun purchasers can buy firearms from licensed dealers to give as bona fide gifts"? Really? Leahy and Collins?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2013 12:49 PM (piMMO)

100 J.J. Sefton that commentator sounds like a card carrying member of the Thule Society ja?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 12:49 PM (OCvUs)

101   25 Wait, McCain and Graham voted differently?

Somebody got kicked out of the apartment!

Posted by: The Q at April 17, 2013 04:39 PM (69UnD)

 

 

Think South Carolina might poll a little bit different on gun control than some other places?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at April 17, 2013 12:49 PM (hLRSq)

102 Enough with the Sirota pictures. You're scaring the children. Hey, it took more than 500 posts before you-know-who turned up last thread. Give us some credit!

Posted by: Brother Cavil's Ampersand Emporium at April 17, 2013 12:50 PM (fMiHM)

103 98 At the risk of invoking Godwin's Law, there were a bunch of people who did what they thought was right for their country in the 30s and 40s. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 04:49 PM (+x8q5) Toomey didn't even do that. He did what he thought was right for him to get re-elected. Total political hack. These days they come $90 trillion a dozen...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:50 PM (tqLft)

104 Harry Reid leaves the Senate following the failure of the gun control bill: http://tinyurl.com/3me5w34

Posted by: zsasz at April 17, 2013 12:50 PM (MMC8r)

105 >Senator Pat Toomey ‏@SenToomey 2m
I did what I thought was the right thing for our country.
<

I always thought the Japanese tradition of hari kari after they had lost honor was an interesting sociological trait.

Posted by: Marcus at April 17, 2013 12:50 PM (GGCsk)

106 Know what that picture looks like? Check my sig. Hint - It's from the wedding of a Super Bowl winning Linebacker to the sister of a QB drafted in the first round.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 12:50 PM (+x8q5)

107 Y'all know my opinion of universal background checks, so let's not get into it again.

But.. I think Monday's terrorist attacks in Boston have made an extremely important point that is applicable to gun control.  And that is:  If someone wants to kill a bunch of people, he will do it no matter what the "law" says about it.

Parading a bunch of grieving parents around has seemed to work quite well up til now - but apparently not well enough.  And that's good.  Because, as much as I feel sorry for those parents, someone needs to say it:  background checks wouldn't have prevented their kid's deaths.  The only prevention may have been the very remote possibility that members of that community would have recognized Lanza's instability.  The federal government couldn't have helped them.

and one more thing: Fuck you Democrats who have no shame leading these people around Washington D.C.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 17, 2013 12:50 PM (f9c2L)

108 *slides Alexthechick's way a plate of brownies and a hate shake*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 12:50 PM (OCvUs)

109 105 J.J. Sefton that commentator sounds like a card carrying member of the Thule Society ja? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 04:49 PM (OCvUs) Ja. Und Thule is pronounced "tool."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:50 PM (tqLft)

110 "Votes going on the Cruz bill.."

The rest of these amendments will all fail, it's just a dog and pony show now.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 17, 2013 12:51 PM (Fz2C7)

111 The proof that the media may not be ideologically biased, but biased against horrific images, re: Gosnell testimony? They never show David Sirota's picture on the air

Posted by: The Q at April 17, 2013 12:51 PM (69UnD)

112 Senator Pat Toomey þ@SenToomey 2m
I did what I thought was the right thing for our country.


Well that makes sense, in the context of imbecile thought.

Posted by: maddogg at April 17, 2013 12:51 PM (OlN4e)

113 At the risk of invoking Godwin's Law, there were a bunch of people who did what they thought was right for their country in the 30s and 40s.

You do not have to go that far back.  Anyone who thinks that we are dealing with intellectually gifted people in our "elite"--I will refer you to Obamacare, the Department of Homeland Security and, my personal favorite, the nuclear freeze movement of the 1980s as examples of what our betters come up with.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 17, 2013 12:51 PM (EDjKF)

114 Is it true Sirota causes psoriasis?

Posted by: USA at April 17, 2013 12:51 PM (RIg+t)

115

Every post involving congress in action should be accompanied by theme music from "Gremlins".

http://tinyurl.com/2e6poc9

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 17, 2013 12:51 PM (026j9)

116

By the way... this photo here:

http://tinyurl.com/bvnum3n

is just ASKING to be photoshopped...

Posted by: dan-O at April 17, 2013 12:51 PM (bdKBD)

117 That's not nobility.  *wink*   Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 04:49 PM (GEICT)

No, but that's a drone strike

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 17, 2013 12:51 PM (sbV1u)

118 Thank you, Anna. *noms* That's not nobility. *wink* Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 04:49 PM (GEICT) Well, it has to be because I certainly can't see anything else.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 12:52 PM (VtjlW)

119 Is he talking about the 20 babies in the gosnell trial?

Posted by: jb at April 17, 2013 12:52 PM (9Y1Gl)

120 Is it true Sirota causes psoriasis?

Posted by: USA

 

 

Vaginal warts.

Posted by: Roy at April 17, 2013 12:52 PM (VndSC)

121 Regarding the Thatcher funeral: The President had the United States snub the funeral. The British along the procession route chose to clap for the Baroness anyway. The United States has thus not snubbed a person. It has snubbed a people. I hope they do not forget it.

Posted by: T. at April 17, 2013 12:52 PM (8vjft)

122 John McCain and Mark Kirk need to be primaried.  Fucking sad.

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 17, 2013 12:52 PM (tVTLU)

123 I will refer you to Obamacare, the Department of Homeland Security and, my personal favorite, the nuclear freeze movement of the 1980s as examples of what our betters come up with. --- The difference is that I don't think that a bunch of the people involved in any of those "thought they were in the best interests of our country". I think those were all thought up with the express interest of fucking things up here to the point where we were no longer a superpower.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 12:52 PM (+x8q5)

124 BREAKING: Senator Toomey seen leaving the Hill after failed vote http://tinyurl.com/3ryb867

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 12:52 PM (GEICT)

125 121 By the way... this photo here: http://tinyurl.com/bvnum3n is just ASKING to be photoshopped... Posted by: dan-O at April 17, 2013 04:51 PM (bdKBD) I'd do it, but that would entail looking at it for a long period of time. Pass.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:53 PM (tqLft)

126 The great immigration experiment of the late 19th Century and the early 20th Century has proven to be a catastrophic failure, and has resulted in the death of what had been the Republic.
Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 17, 2013 04:38 PM (dScAL)

Yeah, the percentage of the (free) population that was foreign-born went all the way from 13.1% in 1860 to 13.0% in 1920!  What a catastrophic experiment!

Posted by: DKCZ at April 17, 2013 12:53 PM (9/bcB)

127 Yes, those 20 babies will never get a chance to abort their own children...

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 17, 2013 12:53 PM (uhftQ)

128

Since I picked up a practically new Vince Flynn book at Goodwill yesterday for $2, this is apropos.

 

Towards the end on one of his   books, Mitch Rapp rips some Congresscritter a new one   for her alleged "caring" about some  imagined "right to life" for  a suspected terrorist.

 

 MR got her on her  pro-abortion record.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 17, 2013 12:53 PM (+z4pE)

129 Kirk, McCain, Collins and Toomey


These are not the republicans you've been looking for.


Posted by: dananjcon self hating woploc at April 17, 2013 12:53 PM (jvd3N)

130 115 "Votes going on the Cruz bill.."

The rest of these amendments will all fail, it's just a dog and pony show now.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 17, 2013 04:51 PM (Fz2C7)


So business as usual in the senate?

Posted by: Red Shirt at April 17, 2013 12:53 PM (FIDMq)

131 I'm almost sad it didn't pass so we could find out if Boner would fuck us and the Hastert rule again.

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at April 17, 2013 12:53 PM (tukUh)

132 129 BREAKING: Senator Toomey seen leaving the Hill after failed vote http://tinyurl.com/3ryb867 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 04:52 PM (GEICT) You sad, bro? WAIT - he's black and white. That could be the bomber...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:53 PM (tqLft)

133 Well, it has to be because I certainly can't see anything else. Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 04:52 PM (VtjlW) Cruel, cruel Queen.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 12:53 PM (GEICT)

134 dog and pony show now. Posted by: lowandslow at April 17, 2013 04:51 PM (Fz2C7) So business as usual in the senate? --- That depends on who is working the dog and/or pony.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 12:54 PM (+x8q5)

135 127 "John McCain and Mark Kirk need to be primaried." No, John McCain needs to do what he's asking for - bomb Syria. Send him up in a MIG we stole from the Russians and have him do "the danged thing" himself.

Posted by: The Q at April 17, 2013 12:54 PM (69UnD)

136 Is it true Sirota causes psoriasis?

Posted by: USA at April 17, 2013 04:51 PM (RIg+t)

 

That is a lie!  Gazing upon me in person will turn you to stone.

Posted by: David Sirota at April 17, 2013 12:54 PM (ggRof)

137 Well, it has to be because I certainly can't see anything else. Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 04:52 PM (VtjlW)

Ouch.

That thing has now shriveled up into its hidey hole and won't be out until next Spring.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 17, 2013 12:54 PM (sbV1u)

138 Meghan McCain is the smart one in the family.
 
Y'all know this issue is nowhere near dead. Next up -- EOs.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 17, 2013 12:54 PM (ccXZP)

139 125 Is it true Sirota causes psoriasis? Posted by: USA Vaginal warts. Posted by: Roy at April 17, 2013 04:52 PM (VndSC) Sirota of the liver.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:54 PM (tqLft)

140 The Constitution lives to wheeze another day.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 17, 2013 12:54 PM (unyqi)

141 Dog and pony show in the Senate.

McCain is the pony so who is the dog?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 12:54 PM (OCvUs)

142 Fucking sock

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 17, 2013 12:55 PM (tukUh)

143 Heh. I LOL'd at David Sirota. And there's nothing the little buttercup can do about it.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 17, 2013 12:55 PM (DLu2s)

144 BREAKING:  CNN announces the Boston Bomber is dating Manti Teo....

Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 17, 2013 12:55 PM (jsWA8)

145 Bringing bills to the floor without any real debate or forethought usually results in failure or disasters like obamacare.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 17, 2013 12:55 PM (jE38p)

146 That thing has now shriveled up into its hidey hole and won't be out until next Spring. Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 17, 2013 04:54 PM (sbV1u) Nah, he's hurt, but two words: Cheerleader. Wife.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 12:55 PM (GEICT)

147 Well, it has to be because I certainly can't see anything else. Damn. The Ravage would have been more merciful.

Posted by: Brother Cavil's Ampersand Emporium at April 17, 2013 12:55 PM (fMiHM)

148 Cruel, cruel Queen. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 04:53 PM (GEICT) Am I the one who teed it up like that? No, no, I am not.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 12:55 PM (VtjlW)

149 Nah, he's hurt, but two words: Cheerleader. Wife. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 04:55 PM (GEICT)

Do they sell Industrial Strength Cheerleader?

You might need it.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 17, 2013 12:56 PM (sbV1u)

150 Assault weapons ban?  More like "assault weapons BAM!"

Posted by: David "Karate Video is porn to me" Sirota at April 17, 2013 12:56 PM (leNBy)

151 Just off topic here.... So the pic of the guy and backpack that 4chan found, is the same guy named as the person of interest, and shown in the large pic, (with glasses removed, and hat turned around backwards)?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 17, 2013 12:56 PM (eyJh9)

152 Our Federal government is so dysfunctional that a little ricin will do ya

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 17, 2013 12:56 PM (jE38p)

153 I know we had our fun with CNN earlier, but it is possible that a "dark skinned" suspect is a "white male." Ladies and gentlemen, the suspect's name is Michael Jackson

Posted by: The Q at April 17, 2013 12:56 PM (69UnD)

154 BREAKING: Senator Toomey seen leaving the Hill after failed vote http://tinyurl.com/3ryb867 *** Ha1 sad bear

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2013 12:56 PM (piMMO)

155 Okay, which Moron let Alex on the greens?  You know she will turn it into a Raptor habitat PDQ.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 12:56 PM (OCvUs)

156 Congress could put forth a bill which would save the lives of 3500 babies every day.....

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 17, 2013 12:56 PM (sBUAE)

157 If anyone wants to know what race has to do with all of this, feel free to ask me.

Posted by: Toure' at April 17, 2013 12:56 PM (Uga7K)

158 But Manchin was all man when he fired a bullet through Obamacare! What an effing douche nozzle.

Posted by: El Kabong at April 17, 2013 12:56 PM (3oa/l)

159 Sirota is Zoolander.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2013 12:56 PM (lVPtV)

160 Do they sell Industrial Strength Cheerleader? You might need it. Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 17, 2013 04:56 PM (sbV1u) I went with the "Adventurous" model.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 12:56 PM (GEICT)

161 146 Dog and pony show in the Senate. McCain is the pony so who is the dog? --- Don't know about that, but we've got a shot of Toomey, McCain, and Graham linked in my sig. Semi-NSFW.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 12:56 PM (+x8q5)

162 O.M.G!   This is weapons grade stupid.....




Congratulations, felons! The Senate has upheld your right to buy guns without a background check. Send your donations to

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 17, 2013 12:57 PM (X6akg)

163 Got some friends in NW Pa and I'll be seeing them tomorrow,they always rib me for being from the cesspool that is Mahoning county,nothing like turning the table on them and bring up Pat "Fuckstick yep that's me"Toomey trying to grab their guns.It ought to be a fun discussion.

Posted by: YTown Guy at April 17, 2013 12:57 PM (das+y)

164 I went with the "Adventurous" model. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 04:56 PM (GEICT)

Video or it didn't happen.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 17, 2013 12:57 PM (sbV1u)

165 Just off topic here.... So the pic of the guy and backpack that 4chan found, is the same guy named as the person of interest, and shown in the large pic, (with glasses removed, and hat turned around backwards)? Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 17, 2013 04:56 PM (eyJh9) They have never really said what pics and who are people of interest. This is all speculation.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 17, 2013 12:57 PM (jE38p)

166 Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 17, 2013 04:38 PM (dScAL)

Right.

Learn some history before you spout this drivel.

The 19th century immigration was responsible for America becoming a world power.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2013 12:57 PM (/WLC3)

167 My my my my Sirota

Posted by: zsasz at April 17, 2013 12:57 PM (MMC8r)

168 “If you want to remember those 20 babies… please consider you should vote for this bill.” Try remembering all the babies that are still alive because their parents were armed and shot intruders.

Posted by: waldo at April 17, 2013 12:58 PM (y2XjR)

169 Tami, someone needs to check Will Saletan.  I think he left his brains in the pressure cooker too long.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 12:58 PM (OCvUs)

170
Will Saletan
‏@saletan

Congratulations, felons! The Senate has upheld your right to buy guns without a background check. Send your donations to @NRA




Already have, douche.  BAM!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2013 12:58 PM (lVPtV)

171 Am I the one who teed it up like that? No, no, I am not. Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 04:55 PM (VtjlW) *sad panda face* A truce manatee my Queen?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 12:58 PM (GEICT)

172

Why does my Comment Spam Hash look like "You Gay, Okay"?

 

Posted by: No, I'm not Gay, K? at April 17, 2013 12:58 PM (Uga7K)

173 We are all felons now.  Alrighty, then.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2013 12:58 PM (lVPtV)

174 Drudge sez Harry Reid is going to 'pivot' to Internet sales taxes. Honestly, is the guy just going around looking for any functioning parts of our economy to try to derail??

"C'mon, boys! There's something still operating productively in this country! And it's our mission to stop it right now!"
"Yes, daddy."
"Yes, daddy."
"Yes, daddy."
"Yes, daddy."
"Yes, daddy."
"Great! Somebody call my other son that doesn't work on my staff and get him to agree, too!"

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 17, 2013 12:59 PM (DLu2s)

175 Presser in the Rose Garden at 1730 re gun amendment. Still no word on when we are hearing something on Boston, correct? Priorities. Sigh.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at April 17, 2013 12:59 PM (fzFF6)

176 OK now on to that immigration/amnesty bullshit and let's really kill that one

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 17, 2013 12:59 PM (jE38p)

177

Was reading speculation that Bloomberg had threatened to use his new anti-gun SuperPac against Toomey in 2016. 

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at April 17, 2013 12:59 PM (YmPwQ)

178 O.M.G! This is weapons grade stupid.....


Will Saletan
‏@saletan

Congratulations, felons! The Senate has upheld your right to buy guns without a background check. Send your donations to @NRA
Posted by: Tami

I've been seeing this angle in the gun debate.  Where does that even come from?

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 12:59 PM (R18D0)

179 Just looked at my hash.

Orange County v US?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 12:59 PM (OCvUs)

180 172 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2013 04:57 PM (/WLC3) I think Zombie Shane is punk-ass nazi or a DU troll, thinking that we are like-minded. Fail.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 12:59 PM (tqLft)

181 Dammit. Truce manatee. http://tinyurl.com/c44xq4t

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 12:59 PM (GEICT)

182 "I purse my lips and make fists." BAM!

Posted by: soothsayer at April 17, 2013 12:59 PM (LL42r)

183 Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 17, 2013 04:46 PM (2up3Q) Maybe they were trying to convince us rubes of how much we need more gun control by making the faces of the bill 2 senators from very pro 2A states. If so, FAIL.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 17, 2013 12:59 PM (6zgse)

184 >It has never been scientifically proven that constant >slapping of balls against the chin causes brain >injury. Lets ask Ashely Judd about that.

Posted by: Aviator at April 17, 2013 01:00 PM (F32RS)

185 Okay, which Moron let Alex on the greens? You know she will turn it into a Raptor habitat PDQ. That explains the foursome playing through on the 9th hole...

Posted by: Brother Cavil's Ampersand Emporium at April 17, 2013 01:00 PM (fMiHM)

186 Wait...is that a wedding ring on his finger? Some poor woman married this cock-goblin?

Posted by: El Kabong at April 17, 2013 01:00 PM (3oa/l)

187 I don't know if any one mentioned it, but Flake (R-AZ) also was a yea.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 17, 2013 01:00 PM (l3vZN)

188 Video or it didn't happen. Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 17, 2013 04:57 PM (sbV1u) Stupid, not crazy.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 01:00 PM (GEICT)

189 Dang - LIV who believe the MSM.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:00 PM (OCvUs)

190 184 Was reading speculation that Bloomberg had threatened to use his new anti-gun SuperPac against Toomey in 2016. Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at April 17, 2013 04:59 PM (YmPwQ) If Toomey were afraid of a billionaire midget that nobody likes, and was elected because he was allegedly conservative, then he's a bigger imbecile than I thought.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:01 PM (tqLft)

191 194 I don't know if any one mentioned it, but Flake (R-AZ) also was a yea. --- Flake has been very disappointing since being elected. Is it a requirement that the Senators from Arizona have their balls removed with a bessie-maker when they move from the House to the Senate?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 01:01 PM (+x8q5)

192

American ideals were simply overwhelmed by the importation of too many people who came here [and who continue to come here]with the explicit purpose of destroying this nation.

 

***

 

Thank Ted Fucking Kennedy  - and the Democrat Party -   and the Immigration Reform Act for that.

Posted by: LGoPs at April 17, 2013 01:01 PM (4x8W0)

193 Listen, Mr Spades, you're asking for a good flouncing! And I'm just the persyn to give it to you!

(Primps hair, checks lip gloss, sashays out of room. )

Posted by: David Sirota at April 17, 2013 01:01 PM (DLu2s)

194 I bet Sirota's biting his lip right now. BAM!

Posted by: mare at April 17, 2013 01:01 PM (A98Xu)

195 Message: I care. About babies. No, not those one in Maryland. You know, the one in Newtown.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 17, 2013 01:01 PM (KqmXZ)

196 Wait...is that a wedding ring on his finger? Some poor woman married this cock-goblin? ---- I was going with spare dick ring.

Posted by: Whatev at April 17, 2013 01:01 PM (A7Wh1)

197 Why does my Comment Spam Hash look like "You Gay, Okay"?

Posted by: No, I'm not Gay, K? (Uga7K)

***

You gay 7000?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 17, 2013 01:02 PM (uhftQ)

198 Nevermind about Flake....I was looking at a CNN list and I think it was wrong.....sorry

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 17, 2013 01:02 PM (l3vZN)

199 Sirotta got confused on where to put Prince Albert....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:02 PM (OCvUs)

200 202 Message: I care. About babies. No, not those one in Maryland. You know, the one in Newtown. --- Should be- 202 Message: I care. About babies. No, not those one in Maryland. Or Delaware. Or Philly. You know, the one in Newtown.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 01:02 PM (+x8q5)

201 Ok, who the fuck is David Sirota? Is that the cockweasel from the previous post?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 01:02 PM (GEICT)

202 199 Thank Ted Fucking Kennedy - and the Democrat Party - and the Immigration Reform Act for that. Posted by: LGoPs at April 17, 2013 05:01 PM (4x8W0) T H I S

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:02 PM (tqLft)

203

Are there any actual conservatives in PA who we can primary Arlen Toomey with?

Posted by: Albie Damned at April 17, 2013 01:02 PM (Yhu4q)

204 I've been seeing this angle in the gun debate. Where does that even come from?

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 04:59 PM (R18D0)



Their ass? 

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 17, 2013 01:02 PM (X6akg)

205 Some poor woman married this cock-goblin?

More likely some man.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 17, 2013 01:03 PM (/kI1Q)

206 Toomey, rhymes with Tumoury

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:03 PM (OCvUs)

207

No, John McCain needs to do what he's asking for - bomb Syria.

Send him up in a MIG we stole from the Russians and have him do "the danged thing" himself.

 

***

 

All McCain would manage to accomplish is to get shot down. Again.

Posted by: LGoPs at April 17, 2013 01:03 PM (4x8W0)

208 Jeeze, the leftards must see the NRA as some kind of Cthulhu like omnipotent boogyman. Just the word causes them to soil their flyless french underwear.

Posted by: maddogg at April 17, 2013 01:03 PM (OlN4e)

209 Think about this - Toomey WAS the conservative one in PA.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 17, 2013 01:03 PM (sBUAE)

210 "but Flake (R-AZ) also was a yea."

I think you're wrong on that.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 17, 2013 01:03 PM (Fz2C7)

211 David Sirota is no punk.When he makes a fist, someone's getting fisted.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 17, 2013 01:04 PM (ZshNr)

212

Maybe they were trying to convince us rubes of how much we need more gun control by making the faces of the bill 2 senators from very pro 2A states.

 

If so,  apparently the connection between those who want the Second Amendment because they don't trust the government as a whole and those who don't trust the trust their elected leaders not to screw them over escaped the planners.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 17, 2013 01:04 PM (mp+4g)

213 Lord, do we HAVE to look at that fucking dicknipping loser everytime we refresh the page?

Posted by: maddogg at April 17, 2013 01:04 PM (OlN4e)

214

"Um, no. They were weakened by a few in the media and academia that took hold in the late 60's and early 70's. The immigrants who came here helped build this country into a superpower and whose sons saved the world in 2 world wars.  Stop denigrating legal immigrants who come here by and large to be Americans and love this country. Your words are bigoted and plain wrong in the main."

 

The immigrants who finally seized control of  "the media and academia... in the late 60's and early 70's..." came here at the end of the 19th Century and the beginning of the 20th Century.

 

And they came here with the express purpose of destroying not only America, but all of Western Civilization.

 

Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 17, 2013 01:04 PM (dScAL)

215 215 Jeeze, the leftards must see the NRA as some kind of Cthulhu like omnipotent boogyman. Just the word causes them to soil their flyless french underwear. Posted by: maddogg at April 17, 2013 05:03 PM (OlN4e) Boooosh is out? Boooooooosh is out?!?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 01:04 PM (GEICT)

216 I bet Sirota's biting his lip right now. BAM! Posted by: mare

And punching the softest pillow in his apartment.  Over by the Nagel print.

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 01:04 PM (R18D0)

217 >>>Think about this - Toomey WAS the conservative one in PA. Yeah...rootin' tootin' raspberry red don't play well in PA. Even Santorum had to tilt left and pro-union to have a shot there.

Posted by: El Kabong at April 17, 2013 01:04 PM (3oa/l)

218 funny Parks and Rec bit by Patton Oswalt. He filibusters city council by improvising a plot for a Star Wars/Marvel crossover movie.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 17, 2013 01:04 PM (ZPrif)

219 "I live in an all white neighborhood and I have all white friends. But I totally undersrand the plight of the black peoples." BAM!

Posted by: soothsayer at April 17, 2013 01:04 PM (jlW3q)

220 Presser in the Rose Garden at 1730 re gun amendment.

"Blah blah...me...Newtown...blah blah...I...gun lobby...blah blah...mine...skeet shooting...blah blah...my daughters...no really...blah blah...protect children...I...blah blah...Bin Laden...blah blah...me...Joe Biden...blah blah...I...high speed rail...blah blah...mine...bipartisan...blah blah...40%...blah blah...Gabby Giffords...blah blah...Bin Laden...blah blah...recovery...blah blah...John Wayne...blah blah...I..."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 17, 2013 01:05 PM (EDjKF)

221 Sirota could benefit from David Caruso's sunglasses.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 17, 2013 01:05 PM (LyF0H)

222

Surprise. Trafficking amdt fails. Vote was 58-42. But needed 60. Nothing passing on guns so far.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 17, 2013 01:05 PM (X6akg)

223 We interrupt this programing for something completely different.

http://youtu.be/kKAnYWNnYW8

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:05 PM (OCvUs)

224

"I think Zombie Shane is punk-ass nazi or a DU troll, thinking that we are like-minded. "

 

I believe they call that "Godwin's Law", Mr Sefton.

 

You lose.

 

Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 17, 2013 01:06 PM (dScAL)

225 Someone get Bob Beckel a Ricola.  Nice coughing into the mic idjit.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 17, 2013 01:06 PM (X6akg)

226 228 Sirota could benefit from David Caruso's sunglasses. Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 17, 2013 05:05 PM (LyF0H) Even Caruso thinks Sirota is a douchebag.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 01:06 PM (GEICT)

227 I've been seeing this angle in the gun debate. Where does that even come from?

Early childhood head trauma?

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 01:06 PM (evdj2)

228 I've been seeing this angle in the gun debate. Where does that even come from? Posted by: Dang ================= Ignorance. None of these people own guns.

Posted by: Jay in PA at April 17, 2013 01:06 PM (WSgyE)

229 BREAKING: David Sirota to be featured as unlockable character in the next "Punch-Out" game.

Posted by: Croaker at April 17, 2013 01:06 PM (leNBy)

230 Isn't Manchin from WV? I've heard some people from a Southern background refer to young kids as babies.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2013 01:06 PM (BVq/X)

231 I think Zombie Shane is punk-ass nazi or a DU troll, thinking that we are like-minded. But he's so...edgy.

Posted by: zsasz at April 17, 2013 01:07 PM (MMC8r)

232 It is a federal felony to sell, trade, give, lend, rent, or transfer a gun to a person you know or should have known is not legally allowed to own, purchase, or possess a firearm. The penalty for selling a gun to a person who is a criminal, mentally ill, mentally incompetent, or an alcohol or drug abuser is a 10-year federal felony. It is even a federal felony to submit false information on a background check form for the purpose of purchasing a firearm.

Posted by: Jay in PA at April 17, 2013 01:07 PM (WSgyE)

233 Also failing on a 54-46 vote: Pat Tooooomey's reelection.

Hey buddy, aren't you glad you pissed away your Senate career for a do-nothing sop to the far-left?

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 17, 2013 01:07 PM (VjL9S)

234 The immigrants who finally seized control of "the media and academia... in the late 60's and early 70's..." came here at the end of the 19th Century and the beginning of the 20th Century.

And they came here with the express purpose of destroying not only America, but all of Western Civilization.
Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 17, 2013 05:04 PM (dScAL)



Would you mind telling us which individuals came to the United States before the implementation of the 1924 Immigration Act and then later seized control in the 1960s and '70s?

Posted by: DKCZ at April 17, 2013 01:07 PM (9/bcB)

235 Have you ever heard of a past President delivering a live Rose Garden statement/lecture after a piece of legislation he was pushing failed?

Posted by: lowandslow at April 17, 2013 01:07 PM (Fz2C7)

236 238 BREAKING: David Sirota to be featured as unlockable character in the next "Punch-Out" game. --- They're adding a new boxer even easier to beat than Glass Joe?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 01:07 PM (+x8q5)

237

I believe they call that "Godwin's Law", Mr Sefton.

You lose.

 

Actually, Godwin's Rule never says that invoking Nazis indicates a loss.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 17, 2013 01:07 PM (mp+4g)

238 David Sirota is the new Alexei Vayner. Let's see him break bricks with his fu.

Posted by: zsasz at April 17, 2013 01:08 PM (MMC8r)

239 BREAKING (from a heavy irony zone) --

FBI Press Conference At Boston Courthouse Cancelled Due To Bomb Threat.

Posted by: Ernst Hollings at April 17, 2013 01:08 PM (e8kgV)

240 First there was “Manos: The Hands of Fate” Now prepare for “Stinky: The Finger of Sirota”

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 17, 2013 01:08 PM (LyF0H)

241 Are there any actual conservatives in PA who we can primary Arlen Toomey with? Name recognition is BIG in PA. Which is why we have a deficient DNA (D) Senator named Casey. The only half-decent conservative I can think of with name recognition is our current Governor. I'd be perfect for the job, as I'd refuse to do anything but obstruct the Dems and show up only once in a while, but alas, have no name recognition.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 17, 2013 01:08 PM (feFL6)

242

Obama to make 5:30 pm et statement on guns. Biden has left the Capitol.


Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 17, 2013 01:08 PM (X6akg)

243 90 Sen Toomey just tweeted: Senator Pat Toomey ‏@SenToomey 2m I did what I thought was the right thing for our country. Lame Posted by: Jay in PA at April 17, 2013 04:48 PM (WSgyE) To be followed any second now with: "I just wanted to make a difference." Hitler made a difference. So did Kermit Gosnell.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 17, 2013 01:09 PM (QlTaC)

244 There's a pretty lady on FoxNews again. But there's another lady who used to be pretty and now scares me. Both are brunettes. The scary lady scares me. Why is her face like that? That's not natural. The pretty lady makes me happy.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 17, 2013 01:09 PM (ZPrif)

245 Sirota vs. Twenty Giant Ditkas? Sirota!

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 17, 2013 01:09 PM (ZshNr)

246 As bad as this investigation is being handled, soon they will be looking for someone in a green jacket and Adam Scott will get arrested.

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 17, 2013 01:09 PM (8/DeP)

247 David Sirota is the Criss Angel of Charles Nelson Reilly.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 17, 2013 01:09 PM (LyF0H)

248 I was going with spare dick ring. Ring is much too big for him.

Posted by: Aviator at April 17, 2013 01:09 PM (F32RS)

249 232 Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 17, 2013 05:06 PM (dScAL) Let's see; you spout inchoate xenophobia that would make Father Coughlin blush and then you accuse me of invoking Godwin's law? I did not make a wild comparison to Hitler - I accurately pegged your drivel for the racist pap that it was. And this site is trolled far too often by unreconstructed, blinkered, pig-ignorant philistines whoa "just raise questions, yo." Vayr ge hargit, momzer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:09 PM (tqLft)

250 Flake has been very disappointing since being elected.

Is it a requirement that the Senators from Arizona have their balls removed with a bessie-maker when they move from the House to the Senate?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge

***

 

Flake is pandering to hispanics these days. Saw a poll where hispanics overwhelmingly supported gun control. They badly want them to join the Mormon faith, hence his other love- amnesty.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 17, 2013 01:09 PM (uhftQ)

251 Sirota has that New Jersey douche bag, duck face deal going on. Where's he from?

Posted by: mare at April 17, 2013 01:10 PM (A98Xu)

252 Let's see him break bricks with his fu.

Posted by: zsasz at April 17, 2013 05:08 PM (MMC8r)

-

He breaks bricks with his Sheng Fu

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 17, 2013 01:10 PM (sBUAE)

253 I stand by my assertion he is a Thulist.  Same clap-trap about inferiors weakening a People.  Margaret Sanger someone stole your soap box.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:10 PM (OCvUs)

254 "Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 17, 2013 05:04 PM (dScAL)"

Quit digging, you can argue about the 1965 immigration act accelerating the decline of the nation but your argument is freak'n ridiculous.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 17, 2013 01:10 PM (Fz2C7)

255 244 Have you ever heard of a past President delivering a live Rose Garden statement/lecture after a piece of legislation he was pushing failed? I don't think so. I'm contemplating taking the foil I just removed from the bird I roasted and making a hat because the first thing I thought was Executive Order number...too many.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at April 17, 2013 01:10 PM (fzFF6)

256 What the hell happened to John Kerry's face?? He looks like he got stung 100 times by bees. He looks like a muppet.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 17, 2013 01:11 PM (Fely/)

257 Posted by: DKCZ at April 17, 2013 05:07 PM (9/bcB)

It's code.

Insert "Jews," and it will all make sense.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2013 01:11 PM (/WLC3)

258

BREAKING: David Sirota to be featured as unlockable character in the next "Punch-Out" game.

 

That's weird. I heard he was going to play Glass Joe in the "Punch-Out" movie.

Posted by: Armando at April 17, 2013 01:11 PM (5iuEW)

259 Invoking AoSHQ Rule #147(a): I don't want to know where that finger has been, but I can guess.

Posted by: jakeman at April 17, 2013 01:11 PM (96M6e)

260 BREAKING ON CNN Ricin Krispies were sent to congressman by a cereal killer.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon is a solid man at April 17, 2013 01:11 PM (pxDth)

261 Have you ever heard of a past President delivering a live Rose Garden statement/lecture after a piece of legislation he was pushing failed?

I would presume that some EO's are forthcoming.  Representative Democracy is just too slow for the SCoaMF.

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 01:11 PM (evdj2)

262 It's code.

Insert "Jews," and it will all make sense.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2013 05:11 PM (/WLC3)

I know; I was trying to get him to be more explicit.

Posted by: DKCZ at April 17, 2013 01:11 PM (9/bcB)

263 Must see TV!

My bet is we get a whiny, petulant, little shebitch speech from Barry.


Posted by: H Badger at April 17, 2013 01:11 PM (n/0Nw)

264 267 What the hell happened to John Kerry's face?? He looks like he got stung 100 times by bees. He looks like a muppet. Posted by: soothsayer at April 17, 2013 05:11 PM (Fely/) He Hannibal Lecter-ed Ashley Judd's cheeks, I guess.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:12 PM (tqLft)

265 Sincerely, thank you NRA. Thank you. Oh, I forgot, I am the NRA.

Posted by: mare at April 17, 2013 01:12 PM (A98Xu)

266 http://tinyurl.com/c29qvyu ot cute worried about hayden panetteire

Posted by: big and small at April 17, 2013 01:12 PM (MhA4j)

267 271 BREAKING ON CNN Ricin Krispies were sent to congressman by a cereal killer. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon is a solid man at April 17, 2013 05:11 PM (pxDth) Ricin Roni, the Dave Sirota BAM!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:12 PM (tqLft)

268 BREAKING: David Sirota confirms he does consider himself "a Jew, but not the icky kind."

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 17, 2013 01:13 PM (LyF0H)

269 *sad panda face* A truce manatee my Queen? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 04:58 PM (GEICT) A. All your manatees are belong to me. 2. You know what happened to Ryan for being a braggy mcbragerson? Ponder. That.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 01:13 PM (VtjlW)

270 What the hell happened to John Kerry's face??

He looks like he got stung 100 times by bees.

He looks like a muppet.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 17, 2013 05:11 PM (Fely/)

 

We both use the same illegal narcotics, thank you very much.

Posted by: Ashley Judd at April 17, 2013 01:13 PM (ggRof)

271 Ever since his green energy stocks crashed, Teresa has made John subsist solely on surplus ketchup.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 17, 2013 01:13 PM (ZshNr)

272 DKCZ it already is quite explicit in its xenophobia and rampant stupidity.  Last thing that needs doing is a vacuum check between the ears to see if we get a reading of 0psi.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:13 PM (OCvUs)

273 That is one punchable face that is.

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 01:13 PM (evdj2)

274 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 05:09 PM (tqLft)

And in idiomatic English:

"Fuck off and die."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2013 01:13 PM (/WLC3)

275 "I can conceive of a hypothetical bill which might protect some babies, which I do not think the Democratic caucus would support."

Bam!!

Posted by: Cory C at April 17, 2013 01:13 PM (HuADZ)

276 Third victim in Boston bombing, Chinese student taking a graduate degree in Math at Boston University. So, now these murderous beast(s) has/have killed two women under 30 and an 8 year old-not to mention the scores of people with linbs shot off-including the six year of sister of the boy who died-and other injuries. May they be brought to justice: http://tinyurl.com/bujdsvb

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2013 01:14 PM (BVq/X)

277 Think about this - Toomey WAS the conservative one in PA.

Yeah...rootin' tootin' raspberry red don't play well in PA. Even Santorum had to tilt left and pro-union to have a shot there. Posted by: El Kabong at April 17, 2013 05:04 PM

Toomey has been a pain in the a$$.  I never really thought of him as a true Conservative, more of a which way the wind blows kind of jerk-off.  That, and he looks like a ventriloquist's dummy. Actually he looks like a cross between Santorum and Kucinich. 
There are a few Conservatives in PA,like Mike Kelly in the House...but Tommey was never one of them.

Posted by: Deanna at April 17, 2013 01:14 PM (d31eB)

278 John Kerry got injected with Fix-a-Flat?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:14 PM (OCvUs)

279 25 Wait, McCain and Graham voted differently? Somebody got kicked out of the apartment! Graham covering his ass so he won't get primaried.

Posted by: Hair plugs Joe at April 17, 2013 01:14 PM (wR+pz)

280 ace is currently smacking around Piers Morgan on twitter.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 17, 2013 01:15 PM (X6akg)

281 Oh, the little punchy one, punchy one. He's a real punchy one, Dave Sirota...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 17, 2013 01:15 PM (QlTaC)

282 BREAKING: Dave Sirota reports he consulted Anthony Weiner "about the best way to take selfies."

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 17, 2013 01:15 PM (LyF0H)

283 2. You know what happened to Ryan for being a braggy mcbragerson? Ponder. That. Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 05:13 PM (VtjlW) Not braggy ma'am. Merely defending myself against Bannion. He gets a little uppity at times. I fully plan on force feeding him tequila shots at the Meet Up. Hilarity ensues.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 01:15 PM (GEICT)

284 292 ace is currently smacking around Piers Morgan on twitter. --- As opposed to Piers smacking himself around in public?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 01:15 PM (+x8q5)

285 OT: Per a relative of mine, who is more cynical than me at times, she thinks Obama will announce an arrest or capture during his sermon at the memorial service tomorrow...

Posted by: Baldy at April 17, 2013 01:15 PM (opS9C)

286 So the MSM can push that "a suspect has been arrested" bullshit in another twenty minutes and I won't mind this time.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 17, 2013 01:16 PM (Fz2C7)

287 On January 25, 2013, the U.S. Court of Appeals ruled that President Obama's appointments to the National Labor Relations Board were unconstitutional. This decision left the board without a quorum and threw hundreds of board rulings into question.

Today, the House passed H.R. 1120, the Preventing Greater Uncertainty in Labor-Management Relations Act, in a 219 to 209 vote, preventing the NLRB from issuing additional rules until it's status has been resolved.

Posted by: The "artist" unambiguously known as "The Artist former known as Prince" at April 17, 2013 01:16 PM (e8kgV)

288 ace is currently smacking around Piers Morgan on twitter. Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2013 05:15 PM (X6akg) Isn't that the Platonic Ideal of punching down?

Posted by: alexthechick at April 17, 2013 01:16 PM (VtjlW)

289 Well, 'Rons that's one little victory the war drags on. Notice how that bitch Feistein admit that this bill wouldn't have saved the little babies. Now if Manchin was concerned about babies instead of headline news he would do something about Gosnell. Nope can't touch the sacrament of abortion

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 17, 2013 01:16 PM (HVff2)

290 re the added pic, I thought the preferred caption was:
 
I think I'll commit suicide

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 17, 2013 01:16 PM (ccXZP)

291 I know; I was trying to get him to be more explicit.

Posted by: DKCZ at April 17, 2013 05:11 PM (9/bcB)

I figured that you were baiting him.

I can't wait for his response.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2013 01:16 PM (/WLC3)

292 277 http://tinyurl.com/c29qvyu

ot cute
worried about hayden panetteire

Posted by: big and small at April 17, 2013 05:12 PM (MhA4j)

You can see her nipple shield.

I hope he doesn't get her pregnant. If the baby is big like him Hayden will split in half.

Posted by: Long Island at April 17, 2013 01:17 PM (hl8SI)

293 Lindsey Graham ‏@GrahamBlog 1m Just voted to guarantee the rights of gun owners to carry concealed weapons across state lines & within other states that have conceal-carry

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2013 01:17 PM (piMMO)

294 They're adding a new boxer even easier to beat than Glass Joe?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 05:07 PM (+x8q5)

 

Wait! I just realized something: you know how Glass Joe had a 1-99 record? Sirota was Glass Joe's one and only win!

 

<slinks guiltily back to nerdcave>

Posted by: Armando at April 17, 2013 01:17 PM (5iuEW)

295 Bastard stole my "Blue Steel" look!

At least I still have "Magnum".

Posted by: Derek Zoolander at April 17, 2013 01:17 PM (2K682)

296 215 Jeeze, the leftards must see the NRA as some kind of Cthulhu like omnipotent boogyman. Just the word causes them to soil their flyless french underwear. Posted by: maddogg at April 17, 2013 05:03 PM (OlN4e) I have a big, college-type NRA banner on the back window of my car. Several times, I've had liberals (hey, this is LA) pull out from behind me, pull up along side me to say something, then think better of it. My appearance seems to confuse them. Can't imagine why.

Posted by: baldilocks at April 17, 2013 01:17 PM (Su0W2)

297 Did reciprocal CCW just pass???

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 01:17 PM (GEICT)

298 292 ace is currently smacking around Piers Morgan on twitter. Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2013 05:15 PM (X6akg) No have Twitter. LINK PLEEEZE!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:17 PM (tqLft)

299 Due to the sequester 4Chan has taken over the work of Homeland Security.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 17, 2013 01:18 PM (feFL6)

300 Toomey just wanted Bloomberg off his back, so mission accomplished.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 17, 2013 01:18 PM (oBhEo)

301 308 Can't imagine why. Posted by: baldilocks at April 17, 2013 05:17 PM (Su0W2) Oh my G-d! You're--- Republican? :-)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:18 PM (tqLft)

302 "Did reciprocal CCW just pass???"

No, he just want's everyone to know he voted for it.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 17, 2013 01:19 PM (Fz2C7)

303 Lindsey Graham ‏@GrahamBlog 1m
Just voted to guarantee the rights of gun owners to carry concealed weapons across state lines & within other states that have conceal-carry

--

Miss Lindsey is up for reelection next year. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 17, 2013 01:19 PM (3V9LU)

304 "The great immigration experiment of the late 19th Century and the early 20th Century has proven to be a catastrophic ..." NO. The great open-borders experiment of our own day will prove to be, though. A century ago, the immigrants did not have the public dole to coddle them. Even more important, they were expected to be grateful to be a part of this country and to learn its language, customs, and institutions. Today, the minute an immigrant gets off the boat, so to speak, he's handed an EBT card, told that the natives hate him, and is encouraged to demand his "rights" against them. I would rather have 100,000,000 immigrants under the old dispensation than 100 under the present one. The vast majority of the old immigrants were eager to be patriotic Americans. At least half of the new ones, especially the illegals, are not. (I am a 1st generation immigrant, BTW.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 17, 2013 01:19 PM (C8mVl)

305 311 Due to the sequester 4Chan has taken over the work of Homeland Security. Posted by: Regular Moron at April 17, 2013 05:18 PM (feFL6) 4Chan. Is that like Charlie Chan's #4 son, or something?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:19 PM (tqLft)

306 218 David Sirota is no punk.When he makes a fist, someone's getting fisted. Posted by: Lincolntf at April 17, 2013 05:04 PM (ZshNr) <----One of the many LOLs of the day!

Posted by: baldilocks at April 17, 2013 01:19 PM (Su0W2)

307 I wouldn't be at all surprised if Obama announced a capture. It would have to be all about Obama the hero, after all

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2013 01:19 PM (BVq/X)

308 Zombie Shane is the bigoted douchebag that got banned on the same day dagny got her yellow flag.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 17, 2013 01:19 PM (aE3I5)

309 Jamie Dupree ‏@jamiedupree now Cornyn amendment on concealed-carry fails on vote of 57-43; 60 votes were needed

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2013 01:20 PM (piMMO)

310 What the hell happened to John Kerry's face?? He looks like he got stung 100 times by bees. botox gone wild?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 17, 2013 01:20 PM (XYSwB)

311 319 I wouldn't be at all surprised if Obama announced a capture. It would have to be all about Obama the hero, after all

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2013 05:19 PM (BVq/X)


  I wouldn't be surprised either.....

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at April 17, 2013 01:20 PM (9+ccr)

312 Officials say 47-year-old Jeremiah Nugent was cutting grass Wednesday at his Palm Harbor home and about to park the mower in his garage when he thought his wife was alerting him that he was about to drive over something. The Pinellas County Sheriff's Office says the man responded by putting the mower in reverse, running over his daughter.

Posted by: H.R. Pufnstuf at April 17, 2013 01:20 PM (e8kgV)

313 That picture just makes me want to grab that finger and fold it back against the back of his hand....but gawd knows where it's been.

Posted by: Paladin at April 17, 2013 01:20 PM (lduvP)

314 252 gonna try and lay on the guilt

Posted by: JDP at April 17, 2013 05:09 PM (60GaT)

 

 

------------------------------------------

 

 

Or announce an executive order.

Posted by: Soona at April 17, 2013 01:20 PM (XbwR1)

315 >>>What the hell happened to John Kerry's face??

Mother of God, It's Herman Munster.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 17, 2013 01:20 PM (0q2P7)

316 It would be fun to get a microphone and a friend with a shoulder-held camera and just start scurrying around aimlessly to see how many of the lemming news crews would scurry after you.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon is a solid man at April 17, 2013 01:20 PM (pxDth)

317 308 215 Jeeze, the leftards must see the NRA as some kind of Cthulhu like omnipotent boogyman. Just the word causes them to soil their flyless french underwear. Posted by: maddogg at April 17, 2013 05:03 PM (OlN4e) I have a big, college-type NRA banner on the back window of my car. Several times, I've had liberals (hey, this is LA) pull out from behind me, pull up along side me to say something, then think better of it. My appearance seems to confuse them. Can't imagine why. --- I recommend keeping a copy of Bad Habit by The Offspring handy if any of them get mouthy.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 01:20 PM (+x8q5)

318 JJ, see if this link works




http://tinyurl.com/yfngy4l

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 17, 2013 01:21 PM (X6akg)

319

Remember how the lefty pundits and press rushed out to call @progressky a rogue clown outfit?

Wonder why? Well, now you don't have to.

http://tinyurl.com/cj9mn8z

There ain't any coincidences


 

Posted by: Albie Damned at April 17, 2013 01:21 PM (Yhu4q)

320 No, he just want's everyone to know he voted for it. Posted by: lowandslow at April 17, 2013 05:19 PM (Fz2C7) I see it now. Erroneous tweet came out a few minutes ago.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 01:21 PM (GEICT)

321 "What the hell happened to John Kerry's face?? " Getting slapped with balls might not cause a brain injury, but it does rough up your cheeks.

Posted by: Ashley Judd at April 17, 2013 01:21 PM (F32RS)

322

No, he just want's everyone to know he voted for it.

 

That'd  be like me saying I called Christina Hendricks. She didn't answer and nothing of substance actually happened.

 

But I called!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 17, 2013 01:21 PM (+z4pE)

323  @jamiedupree Cornyn amendment on concealed-carry fails on vote of 57-43; 60 votes were needed

Posted by: 80sBaby at April 17, 2013 01:21 PM (YjDyJ)

324 Obama to make 5:30 pm et statement on guns.

------------------



Any bets on the storyline he's gonna go with?

Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 17, 2013 01:21 PM (P6QsQ)

325 Posted by: baldilocks at April 17, 2013 05:17 PM (Su0W2)

Racist.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2013 01:21 PM (/WLC3)

326 she thinks Obama will announce an arrest or capture during his sermon at the memorial service tomorrow...
Posted by: Baldy


So, SCOAMF is going to stand on some more graves, is he? Yet he couldn't spare anyone to represent the country at the funeral of a  former head of state.

I'll join the cynicism party.

Posted by: Retread at April 17, 2013 01:22 PM (zxitI)

327 I wouldn't be at all surprised if Obama announced a capture. It would have to be all about Obama the hero, after all Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2013 05:19 PM (BVq/X) yep Soperman

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 17, 2013 01:22 PM (XYSwB)

328 Charlie Chan at the 1936 Olympics
http://youtu.be/jGZA28CChNk

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:22 PM (OCvUs)

329 "Four Republicans voted for it. Kirk, McCain, Collins and Toomey."

Toomey needs a bunch of calls and faxes and letters politely reminding him of the ignominious end to the career of his predecessor Arlen Specter.

Yes, Pat, you too can face a primary challenger.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 17, 2013 01:22 PM (gqT4g)

330

Let's tear this Toomey apart and use it as practice for what we're going to do to destroy Rubio.

 

I'm glad all that Palin hating hasn't gone to waste.

 

We're the GOP and we're smart. Not like people say, we're really smart.

Posted by: jwest at April 17, 2013 01:22 PM (u2a4R)

331 Looking for serious responses here - Aside from potential slippery slope concerns and a framing/public image issue which drives the narrative in anti-2nd amendment ways why was this amendment considered so toxic? 

I understand Begich, Heitkamp, etc issues as they either are up for re-election in pro-gun states or are from strongly pro-gun ones but in general it seems like the most restrictive part of the bill would be to impose criminal background checks at gun shows and through internet sales - which doesn't seem that ridiculous even in the context of ensuring gun rights are protected.  If such checks are in place for most gun sales it seems to make sense to have them included during sales through other mediums.  Is it the slippery slope concerns that make people opposed to it?  Or is it the fees associated w/the background checks? (125 dollars is certainly a significant tax - though i suppose that wouldn't be a sticking point on such an amendment)

Note I'm not talking about the moronic arguments about Newtown/protecting babies made by some of the amendment's supporters - this type of bill and likely any that even democrats would propose would have had no effect in reducing the likelihood of such tragedies.

Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at April 17, 2013 01:22 PM (PeB4U)

332 j

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 17, 2013 01:23 PM (wR+pz)

333 I would rather have 100,000,000 immigrants under the old dispensation than 100 under the present one.
The vast majority of the old immigrants were eager to be patriotic Americans. At least half of the new ones, especially the illegals, are not.

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THIS x 1000.  There is a huge distinction between late 19th/early 20th century immigrants and those illegals flooding the country today. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 17, 2013 01:23 PM (3V9LU)

334 Can we get a link for John Kerry's ugly mug?

Posted by: mare at April 17, 2013 01:24 PM (A98Xu)

335 Any bets on the storyline he's gonna go with? --- A petulant whine about "obstructionist" Republicans even though 4-5 Republicans crossed over on the amendment while about as many Dems, if not more, did the same.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2013 01:24 PM (+x8q5)

336 No have Twitter. LINK PLEEEZE!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 05:17 PM (tqLft)

https://twitter.com/AceofSpadesHQ

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2013 01:24 PM (/WLC3)

337 Several times, I've had liberals (hey, this is LA) pull out from behind me, pull up along side me to say something, I thought they thought we were all crazy gun nuts. Shouldn't they be more terrified of us?

Posted by: zsasz at April 17, 2013 01:24 PM (MMC8r)

338

5:16PM: The Cornyn Amendment on National Reciprocity fails 57-43.

CRAP! This would have been great.

Posted by: harleycowboy at April 17, 2013 01:24 PM (yfeAd)

339

Hmmmm....

@progressky leader at WH days before anti-McConnell campaign began]

http://tinyurl.com/cj9mn8z

Posted by: Albie Damned at April 17, 2013 01:25 PM (Yhu4q)

340 330 Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2013 05:21 PM (X6akg) Works! And BAM!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:25 PM (tqLft)

341 Gay Power Ranger! KAPOW!

Posted by: David Sirota at April 17, 2013 01:25 PM (Ul1S7)

342 348 So does Sirota have any expressions other than 'Magnum' and 'Blue Steel'? Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at April 17, 2013 05:24 PM (tWmgi) Le Tigre

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 01:25 PM (GEICT)

343 For those who get ill thinking of Gaylord Focker's face, Girls Generation in tight jeans, high heels, and tight blouses.

Dancing Queen
http://youtu.be/EXZxc8GSXnI

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:25 PM (OCvUs)

344 really stupid question, but if all the amendments fail, don't they already have cloture on the original bill, which means that they need an up or down majority vote for it to pass?

Posted by: Gman at April 17, 2013 01:26 PM (UkbKS)

345

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 17, 2013 04:38 PM (6zgse)

___

 

That's why the SuperBowl featured the Newtown survivors, not the moms and surviving families of children gunned down in the inner city. You see, the donk machine needs the votes of the suburban soccer mommies. They already have the urban vote locked down.

Posted by: kallisto at April 17, 2013 01:26 PM (jm/9g)

346 Baucus, the chairman of the chamber's powerful Finance Committee and a key architect of the healthcare reform law, said he fears people do not understand how the law will work.

"I just see a huge train wreck coming down," he told Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Syphilis at a Wednesday hearing. "You and I have discussed this many times, and I don't see any results yet."

Posted by: Randolf Scott at April 17, 2013 01:26 PM (e8kgV)

347

Obama to make 5:30 pm et statement on guns.

------------------


"Any bets on the storyline he's gonna go with?"

 

It'll involve emotional pornography for the LIVs and heaping  helpings of scorn on the obstructionist, murderous Republicans.  It will conveniently leave out the Donks who voted no, of course.

 

The over/under on the word "I" is set at 42.

 

For the children.

 

 

Posted by: Jaws at April 17, 2013 01:26 PM (4I3Uo)

348 No have Twitter. LINK PLEEEZE! **** https://twitter.com/AceofSpadesHQ

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2013 01:26 PM (piMMO)

349 354 Gay Power Ranger! KAPOW! Posted by: David Sirota at April 17, 2013 05:25 PM (Ul1S7) More like Peter-Puffer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:26 PM (tqLft)

350 @StewSays Sen. Reid says the #Senate wil vote on three more amendments tonight.

@jamiedupree Senate now voting on Feinstein amendment that would ban assault weapons

Posted by: 80sBaby at April 17, 2013 01:26 PM (YjDyJ)

351 All this talk of Ricin reminds me of Rice a Roni, which reminds me of San Francisco treats, which reminds me of Zombie, which reminds me of Folsom Street, which makes me lose my appetite.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 17, 2013 01:26 PM (feFL6)

352 Thanks everyone! I got the link!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:26 PM (tqLft)

353

5:20PM: Feinstein is dismayed, which means I’m a happy camper. “Easy to shoot big clips!” “Large velocity guns.” She’s not making any sense at all. “This is a majority body!” We’ll see if she even cracks a majority. Oh man, she’s really upset. Good!

 

What the hell is a "large velocity gun"?

Posted by: harleycowboy at April 17, 2013 01:27 PM (yfeAd)

354 That picture of Sirota pointing looks exactly like O'RideMe when he says "Warning, you're entering a no-spin zone". 

It really isn't any better on either one of them.

Posted by: pep at April 17, 2013 01:27 PM (6TB1Z)

355 Toomey burned a lot of bridges with this one.

Good luck next election.

Posted by: mpfs, assault fishstick at April 17, 2013 01:27 PM (iYbLN)

356 Regular Moron you forgot to make a connection with the Undead Princess of San Francisco - Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:27 PM (OCvUs)

357 AZ Flake Saw a poll where hispanics overwhelmingly supported gun control. ...* And by 'control', we're to understand, provided to the "deserving" as "free" /gratis US tax payers. Why ask who is deserving when you know full well the ATF guns were gifted from one organized crime organization to terrorist cartels. Pass the guns, Fast and Furious. Ándele arriba! *... given Rubio's life choices as example to the up and coming "hispanic" American majority population, go ahead while you're young or alone, and take the dive for the Mormon welfare benefits, but eventually reconnect as a Catholic. Hm, since Rubio matured, the Mormon policy for missionaries (1980s) is to only target "quality converts" who have secure independent personal incomes.

Posted by: Speedy Gonzales at April 17, 2013 01:27 PM (MhA4j)

358 F U Manchtard!

Posted by: Chas at April 17, 2013 01:27 PM (9AxVP)

359 I used to kick the shit out of guys like David Sirota in junior high. And I was a wimp.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:28 PM (tqLft)

360 Thanks for taking up for all those defenseless babies who do not have a defender Ace. Not enough voices are out there raising serious objections and fighting for their survival. Well done.

Posted by: i'd Rather Be Surfin at April 17, 2013 01:28 PM (g5wi5)

361 "Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at April 17, 2013 05:22 PM (PeB4U)"

Mainly because it doesn't do anything in preventing bad guys with guns from doing harm. Out of all the amendments this was designed to be the weakest sauce but still look like the Senate did something. In the end it was just more bureaucracy and harassment for law abiding citizens.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 17, 2013 01:28 PM (Fz2C7)

362 I hope this is a lesson for those Republicans that stick their neck out for shit the MSM tells them is popular, but really isn't. 

What's Toomey have to show for this?  Good luck with fundraising from here on out, I'm sure those gun grabbing liberals that live in the beltway will be lining up to send you checks for your next election.

And fuck John McCain. He truly is a piece of shit.

Posted by: McAdams at April 17, 2013 01:28 PM (CpS2h)

363 Aside from potential slippery slope concerns and a framing/public image issue which drives the narrative in anti-2nd amendment ways why was this amendment considered so toxic?

You mean, aside from the part of the amendment that allowed any government agency NOT controlled by the AG to start a registry?  Or how about the part of the amendment that allowed your doctor to put you on the "nope, too nutz to own a gun" list without your knowledge and with no reason?  Either of those are incredibly dangerous and bad.

Posted by: Gman at April 17, 2013 01:28 PM (UkbKS)

364 Were there provisions in this gun bill to make it a federal requirement that gun purchasers be fingerprinted as part of a background check?  That's what a police officer on Fox (pro-gun bill BTW) intimated.  He told Neil Cavuto that part of the process in NY was to get fingerprinted, and that would be federally standardized.  He made it sound like that was no big deal.

Why should a law abiding citizen such as myself have to be fingerprinted to make a purchase of a constitutionally protected item? 

Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 17, 2013 01:28 PM (P6QsQ)

365 Let's tear this Toomey apart and use it as practice for what we're going to do to destroy Rubio.

I'm glad all that Palin hating hasn't gone to waste.

We're the GOP and we're smart. Not like people say, we're really smart.

Posted by: jwest

***

 

Yeah, why should we go after someone who violated a core principle of ours. Idiot.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 17, 2013 01:28 PM (uhftQ)

366 BREAKING: Dave Sirota writes in Salon that he hopes the suspect in Natalie Wood's drowning is not Robert Wagner because he was really cute when he was young, and deserves better than Christopher Walken.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 17, 2013 01:28 PM (LyF0H)

367 367 What the hell is a "large velocity gun"? Posted by: harleycowboy at April 17, 2013 05:27 PM (yfeAd) Compromise. From now on we don't use guns at all. We just throw them at people.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:29 PM (tqLft)

368 reminds me of Rice a Roni, which reminds me of San Francisco treats, which reminds me of street cars /named Desire

Posted by: Speedy Gonzales at April 17, 2013 01:29 PM (MhA4j)

369 Didn't this Sirota character have a program on radio KPOW?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon is a solid man at April 17, 2013 01:29 PM (pxDth)

370 The bullets not the guns

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:29 PM (tqLft)

371 Le Tigre Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 05:25 PM (GEICT) Don't forget Ferrari.

Posted by: jakeman at April 17, 2013 01:29 PM (96M6e)

372 ....but in general it seems like the most restrictive part of the bill would be to impose criminal background checks at gun shows and through internet sales - which doesn't seem that ridiculous even in the context of ensuring gun rights are protected.


======


Not sure where you got this info or if I'm misreading it but....there are background checks at gun shows and an internet sale of a gun must be shipped to a FFL dealer where a background check is run when the purchaser picks up the gun.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 17, 2013 01:29 PM (X6akg)

373 What the hell is a "large velocity gun"? It's what Dave Sirota uses as a finger.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 17, 2013 01:29 PM (LyF0H)

374 365 All this talk of Ricin reminds me of Rice a Roni, which reminds me of San Francisco treats, which reminds me of Zombie, which reminds me of Folsom Street, which makes me lose my appetite.

Posted by: Regular Moron at April 17, 2013 05:26 PM (feFL6)


Thanks! That may help my diet (as ChristyB sits swigging Junipero gin over ice and snarfing down cheese). Somehow a Folsom Street earthquake would not cause me a lot of grief.


"Spank my butt and call me Sally" may have special anthropological meaning here (note to self for WaPo in Mist study).

Posted by: ChrisyBlinky,Sarcastic and Cynical Redneck Queen needs more proof at April 17, 2013 01:29 PM (baL2B)

375 David Sirota + Andrew Sullivan = Creamy Dreamy Milky Loads!


Posted by: Big Gay Al at April 17, 2013 01:29 PM (Ul1S7)

376

"The Cornyn Amendment on National Reciprocity fails 57-43.
CRAP! This would have been great."

 

In an ideal world, sure.  But  "ideal" we ain't lately.

 

Whatever BS "right" the Feds  generously decide to grant us could be taken away in spades tomorrow.  I'd just assume keep CC as diffused as possible throughout the states  at this point. 

Posted by: Jaws at April 17, 2013 01:29 PM (4I3Uo)

377 “If you want to remember those 20 babies… please consider you should vote for this bill.”

So if they don't vote for the bill,  they'll forget the children?  But if they do,  they'll remember?  How is that?  So tired of the bullshit from the left.  The same people who would tell us that executing one of these mass killers won't bring back the victims.  Who the fuck ever said that it would?

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 01:30 PM (R18D0)

378 @361 Jaws


That sounds about right to me too.

Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 17, 2013 01:30 PM (P6QsQ)

379 Four Republicans voted for it. Kirk, McCain, Collins and Toomey.
Defeat these RINO traitors! Crash McStain is an irritant like no-one I have ever seen. A stupid, ignorant, arrogant, ass who got where he got because of his daddy and his before him.
Grassley is my man and we desperately need the other seat of Harkin the old queen who lives in the Bahamas

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at April 17, 2013 01:30 PM (bpsQc)

380 Why y'all h8in on David?...he's a great guy!!!...I even lent him a pair of my used Mom jeans!

Posted by: Meggy MacnCheese at April 17, 2013 01:30 PM (ujrve)

381 My god people are stupid assholes.  Some guy asks for proof that the 40% of guns are bought without a background check stat is a lie.  He's provided with multiple sources that debunk it.  He says they're all lying and not credible.

I knew I should have stayed away from Twitter today.

Posted by: DangerGirl @deadlyestrogen at April 17, 2013 01:30 PM (GrtrJ)

382 Dave Sirota

Andrew Sullivan

David Corn

What's the connection, you guys?

Posted by: Strife at April 17, 2013 01:31 PM (Ul1S7)

383 speaking of Sarah, she's been keeping out of the limelight? Just haven't noticed "Palin" getting blamed for the end of the world as we know it.

Posted by: Speedy Gonzales at April 17, 2013 01:31 PM (MhA4j)

384 OT:  Boston Globe reporter baffled by bagpiper playing Amazing Grace outside the hospital.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/d78jhno

Must be some weird thing they do ju7st before they pass out the snakes.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 17, 2013 01:31 PM (Hx5uv)

385 Oh my G-d! You're--- Republican? :-) Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 05:18 PM (tqLft) Oh! And another driving story: actually saw a black dude in South Central LA with a Romney 2012 sticker on his car bumper! On top of that, when we pulled up along side him and I gave him the thumbs-up (he said thanks), my spidey sense detected that he might be batting for the other team. A black, gay Republican in SC LA... I did notice that he was driving very fast.

Posted by: baldilocks at April 17, 2013 01:31 PM (Su0W2)

386 What the hell is a "large velocity gun"?

Posted by: harleycowboy

***

 

Heh. I can show you, but it'll cost ya.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 17, 2013 01:31 PM (uhftQ)

387 @375

That's probably true - this type of amendment likely wouldn't prevent criminals from getting guns so would effectively be taxing/adding bureaucracy to law abiding citizens. 

I'm sure Toomey must have thought it would have some minimal effect on getting gun in the hands of criminals or at least would have driven black market prices higher (making them prohibitive for some).

Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at April 17, 2013 01:31 PM (PeB4U)

388

>>Aside from potential slippery slope concerns and a framing/public
image issue which drives the narrative in anti-2nd amendment ways why
was this amendment considered so toxic<<

We have lo-info voters on our side too

Posted by: Albie Damned at April 17, 2013 01:31 PM (Yhu4q)

389

"Yeah, why should we go after someone who violated a core principle of ours. Idiot."

 

And just what was that "core principle" that he violated, Fredo?

Posted by: jwest at April 17, 2013 01:31 PM (u2a4R)

390 Posted by: Strife at April 17, 2013 05:31 PM (Ul1S7)

Gerbil purchases?

Posted by: Max Wedge at April 17, 2013 01:32 PM (ujrve)

391 reminds me of Rice a Roni, which reminds me of San Francisco treats, which reminds me of street cars /named Desire A word, sir. --New Orleans

Posted by: Brother Cavil's Ampersand Emporium at April 17, 2013 01:32 PM (fMiHM)

392 Why should a law abiding citizen such as myself have to be fingerprinted to make a purchase of a constitutionally protected item?

Posted by: mama winger

The law that O'Malley just got passed in MD requires fingerprinting and the purchase of a license to buy a firearm.

The other news: he's going to run for president.

Posted by: Retread at April 17, 2013 01:32 PM (zxitI)

393 Welcome back El Kabong !

Posted by: Bill sometimes Bill from Canada at April 17, 2013 01:32 PM (taXf0)

394 Ace is beasting the twitter. It's truly orgasmic.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 17, 2013 01:32 PM (XYSwB)

395 Yous point at me agin Ima gonna break you're finga.

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at April 17, 2013 01:32 PM (RqYCQ)

396 399. baffled by bagpiper reporter couldn't name that tune

Posted by: Speedy Gonzales at April 17, 2013 01:33 PM (MhA4j)

397 At   5:30  pm   EST   I   am   still  guilty  as  hell  and  free  as  a  bird!  Also -  I  took  Barry's  cherry!

Posted by: Bill Ayers at April 17, 2013 01:33 PM (WolTZ)

398 And just what was that "core principle" that he violated, Fredo? Posted by: jwest at April 17, 2013 05:31 PM (u2a4R) In case anyone was wondering what "weapons grade stupid" looked like...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 01:33 PM (GEICT)

399 Chuck Norris sees Devoid Sirota in a martial pose and wets himself.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 17, 2013 01:33 PM (ZshNr)

400 FBI Press conference delayed so The One can speak on the Gun legislation. It's all about Barry.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 17, 2013 01:33 PM (wR+pz)

401 Not sure where you got this info or if I'm misreading it but....there are background checks at gun shows and an internet sale of a gun must be shipped to a FFL dealer where a background check is run when the purchaser picks up the gun.
Posted by: Tami
.........
Tami - that's wrong.  The "internet" sales they were talking about are "private sellers" advertising on gun sites like "armslist".  These are really dealers working outside the law..  Real internet "dealers" do in fact go through local FFL dealers.

Also - there are no background checks for sales at gun shows by private dealers in most states.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 17, 2013 01:34 PM (f9c2L)

402 406, yep. hence the conjuction

Posted by: Speedy Gonzales at April 17, 2013 01:34 PM (MhA4j)

403 Don't forget Ferrari.

IT'S ALL THE SAME LOOK!!!

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 01:34 PM (evdj2)

404 THIS x 1000. There is a huge distinction between late 19th/early 20th century immigrants and those illegals flooding the country today.>>

The other problem with the current flood is a lot of them come over just to latch on to the American teat. Giving the option of welfare upon arrival lures the ones you don't want.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 17, 2013 01:34 PM (wrS2o)

405 All I know is the bad guys lost here.  I don't care how they spin it or how many names they call us.  THEY LOST.  WE WON.   

Posted by: non-gun owning gun rights supporter at April 17, 2013 01:34 PM (x9s9/)

406

"And just what was that "core principle" that he violated, Fredo?"

 

"My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

Cap'n Mal

Posted by: Jaws at April 17, 2013 01:35 PM (4I3Uo)

407 In case anyone was wondering what "weapons grade stupid" looked like...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk

***

 

David Sirota just called JWest a dumbass. Ouch.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 17, 2013 01:35 PM (uhftQ)

408 this type of amendment likely wouldn't prevent criminals from getting guns

------------


The bill would have done nothing - NOTHING - to prevent the shooting in Newtown.  Not one thing.   Newtown was a prop to get what they've been itching to get at for years, nothing more and nothing less.

The real issue is mental health.  Until that is addressed, they might as well pack us all up in bubble wrap, because deranged killers are going to kill.  It's why they call them "Deranged Killers."  If not guns, then bombs.  If not bombs, then knives.  If not knives, then gas.

When will people realize that a gun is merely a hunk of metal.  It has no inherent good or bad to it.

Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 17, 2013 01:35 PM (P6QsQ)

409 345---"THIS x 1000. There is a huge distinction between late 19th/early 20th century immigrants and those illegals flooding the country today." Posted by: Lady in Black at April 17, 2013 05:23 PM (3V9LU) ------------ Yep. Although in truth the REAL distinction is not so much between the immigrants themselves as between the ideas that ruled America in 1900 and the leftist ones that dominate now.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 17, 2013 01:35 PM (C8mVl)

410 “If you want to remember those 20 babies… please consider you should vote for this bill.” Dr. Gosnell is on line 1 for ya, Senator.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at April 17, 2013 01:35 PM (1hM1d)

411 Pat Toomey was on Quinn & Rose in Pittsburgh yesterday morning. They grilled him about this bill. 1) I'm not sure he knows what was even in it. 2) He fully trusts that Obama's people would not brake the law. Quinn confronted him on that with regards to fast & furious, and the obvious stonewall behind executive priv. Toomey had no answer. How can you be so obtuse? Seriously....

Posted by: Reality Man at April 17, 2013 01:36 PM (L2x1w)

412 ""Four Republicans voted for it. Kirk, McCain, Collins and Toomey.""

"Defeat these RINO traitors!"

Realistically, Toomey is the only one within reach. The other three, no hope.

Kirk? It's Sick-inois, Jake. Forget it.

McQueeg? An AZ state electorate dumb enough to believe Maverick when he told them last cycle he was for tough border controls are surely dumb enough to send him back to the Senate again.

Collins? Look at who Mainers picked to replace the other Weird Sister when that one retired. If Collins were ever primaried, Maine would promptly elect an even worse liberal in the general.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 17, 2013 01:36 PM (gqT4g)

413 And just what was that "core principle" that he violated

No retreat on the 2nd.

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 01:36 PM (evdj2)

414 And fuck John McCain. He truly is a piece of shit. Posted by: McAdams at April 17, 2013 05:28 PM (CpS2h) I want my fucking money back. I throwing away the fucking water bottles and visors with the dickheads name on them.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 17, 2013 01:36 PM (wR+pz)

415
Pull my Finger!

Posted by: David Sirota at April 17, 2013 01:37 PM (mKNJE)

416 Tami - that's wrong. The "internet" sales they were talking about are "private sellers" advertising on gun sites like "armslist". These are really dealers working outside the law.. Real internet "dealers" do in fact go through local FFL dealers.

Also - there are no background checks for sales at gun shows by private dealers in most states.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 17, 2013 05:34 PM (f9c2L)


And this bill would have done what to stop those people?

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 17, 2013 01:37 PM (X6akg)

417

Chi-Town Jerry:

 

While this is true, what is also true is that prosecutors never see a legally bought gun at a crime.  NEVER!!!!!!!

 

If there was some epidemic of legally bought private sale guns showing up in crimes, you might have a point. 

 

Until then, you don't.

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 17, 2013 01:37 PM (tVTLU)

418 In case anyone was wondering what "weapons grade stupid" looked like...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2013 05:33 PM (GEICT)

 

You know there must be an answer somewhere, because your knee jerked.  Trouble is, you don't know what the answer is.

 

Toomey violated the core principle of being a conservative.  It has to be a fact because everyone on the thread seems to agree.  Now, if you could only articulate what that core principle is.

 

Nah... that's would take thinking and thinking is hard. 

Posted by: jwest at April 17, 2013 01:37 PM (u2a4R)

419 there ought to be a law preventing the government from functioning illegally ...

Posted by: Speedy Gonzales at April 17, 2013 01:37 PM (MhA4j)

420 I have it on good authority that the ricin letters to the kING came directly from NRA headquarters.
They should be designated a terrorist org and these weapons of death and destruction should be handed over to the Feral Govt Fourthwith!
Oh and pass the bill and the vodka

Posted by: Chris Matthews at April 17, 2013 01:37 PM (bpsQc)

421 FBI Press conference delayed


Yes.  When there is a lot of misinformation flying around,  a press conference is the last thing you want to do to clear things up.  Best to let the reporters and folks like that sift through things on their own.  They'll get it all sorted out.

Posted by: Eric Holder at April 17, 2013 01:37 PM (R18D0)

422 I guess I am going to repeat myself on how things work now with gun sales.
This is all Federal law.

Any weapon sold across state lines has to be delivered to a registered gun store for pick up. 

A registered gun store is required to keep an inventory log book recording the make, model, serial number, and buyer of the weapon.  The BATF goes through these books with a fine tooth comb during audits.  Any screw ups can result in jail time.  Falsifying the books will be found out and also punished.

Then when you the customer walks in.  You have to fill out a brief form that says among other things you are not a felon and you are the end user.  Felonies will prevent a sale going through.  Owner runs a quick check to see if you can purchase weapon.  If he gets no hits, then the sale can proceed.

Now the gun store goes to a gun show.  Guess what, all those Federal laws still apply at the gun show.

The only 'loophole' is between two private citizens at a gun show or garage sale or even the local classifieds.  Still the smart seller will keep records of whom they sold the weapon to.  Just in case.  But that is the only existing 'loophole' and what Manchin-Toomey tried to peddle would not have really closed it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:38 PM (OCvUs)

423 Tami - that's wrong. The "internet" sales they were talking about are "private sellers" advertising on gun sites like "armslist". These are really dealers working outside the law.. Real internet "dealers" do in fact go through local FFL dealers.

Also - there are no background checks for sales at gun shows by private dealers in most states.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

***

 

Ummmm troll, I mean CTJ, if it's state to state they MUST have the gun shipped by an FFL holder to another FFL holder who does the background check there. If it's in the same state I can sell the gun to someone without a background check. This was all explained to you before.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 17, 2013 01:38 PM (uhftQ)

424

Great.

 

Can we get on with shipping some fucking ammo now?

Posted by: Terry at April 17, 2013 01:38 PM (TJ8HB)

425 Thanks for the responses - it seems like

1) What's in the amendment isn't really well understood - I should probably just RTFA before I ask things

2) A lot of the checks/etc are already in place including mental health checks and basically they're trying to make extensions that might be overreaches

I haven't seen good summaries on what type of registries we might see (which there should be absolutely zero trust in the govt not abusing them) but here's the test fwiw:
http://tinyurl.com/d6z3g7g

Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at April 17, 2013 01:38 PM (PeB4U)

426

Tami:

 

Exactly.  Pros of expanded background checks = almost nil.

 

Cons = national registry, government monitoring, mass confiscation, mass murder.

 

Hmmm, that scale weighs one way.

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 17, 2013 01:38 PM (tVTLU)

427 Wow, McCain vote really surprises me. /sarc

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 17, 2013 01:38 PM (UU0OF)

428 THIS JUST IN!!!  CNN reporting the dead rising from their graves and eating the living.  The zombie apocalypse is upon us!

CAUTION:  May wish to wait for confirmation before shooting your neighbor.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 17, 2013 01:39 PM (Hx5uv)

429 David Sirota Fun Facts: When Dave Sirota approaches an elevator, the buttons depress themselves.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 17, 2013 01:39 PM (LyF0H)

430 Until such time as I attain Sirota kung-pow status, I'd like to keep my right to own firearms, for the protection of myself and my family

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon is a solid man at April 17, 2013 01:39 PM (pxDth)

431 And this bill would have done what to stop those people?
Posted by: Tami

Ditto.

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 01:39 PM (R18D0)

432

Let me give you some help, fuckwad.

 

Maybe the "core principle" you're looking for is one where conservatives want every criminal and crazy asshole armed. 

 

That must be it, because that's what the bill was trying to prevent.

 

Keep searching.  There must be a few more core principles he violated along the way.

Posted by: jwest at April 17, 2013 01:40 PM (u2a4R)

433 Sorry to be so late! Heee! HA, HAH, HAH, HAH HAH HAH, HAH HAH! Now I'm gonna check twitter!

Posted by: Deety at April 17, 2013 01:40 PM (4NlFM)

434 They're holding the vote on DiFi's AWB bill now.  She is seriously losing her shit. 

Easy to shoot big clips! Large velocity guns!

Those are her words, BTW. She is really having a bad day. They may have to screw her face back on tonight. I am sure the bolts have loosened.

Posted by: B at April 17, 2013 01:40 PM (6iEQd)

435

Jwest, are you really that dumb? You need us to explain to you that water is wet?

 

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 17, 2013 01:40 PM (uhftQ)

436 Dave Sirota Fun Facts: Instagram banned Dave Sirota because his selfies were too awesome for their servers.

Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 17, 2013 01:40 PM (LyF0H)

437 We should just pass a law to make it illegal to use a gun in the commission of a crime.  Easy peasy.

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 01:40 PM (evdj2)

438 @jamiedupree Senate easily defeats ban on assault weapons; supporters had only 40 votes

Posted by: 80sBaby at April 17, 2013 01:40 PM (YjDyJ)

439 David Sirota Workout Tapes will be the next big thing, guaranteed.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 17, 2013 01:41 PM (ZshNr)

440 Concern troll is concerned.  I shed a single tear.

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 01:41 PM (evdj2)

441 "I'm sure Toomey must have thought it would have some minimal effect on getting gun in the hands of criminals or at least would have driven black market prices higher (making them prohibitive for some)."

Toomey's been in congress for almost a third of his adult life and like most career national politicians they think that only they have the ability and power to change things. They become blind to the fact that most of the things they do have adverse effects on the nation, but in their head they know best. He just convinced himself that something must be done and by God he'll do it. Fact of the matter is, the nation is stronger tonight that the Senate didn't pass any legislation.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 17, 2013 01:41 PM (Fz2C7)

442 SCOAMF is on and five cuts away YES!
Jackass!

Posted by: Chris Matthews at April 17, 2013 01:41 PM (bpsQc)

443

Fox News...Fuck off prezzy!

 

Posted by: YTown Guy at April 17, 2013 01:42 PM (das+y)

444 Just saw your post. The answer is yes, you are that dumb. ESAD you troll.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 17, 2013 01:42 PM (uhftQ)

445 I meant the text of the amendment

And if there are loopholes between private dealers - even if the vast vast majority of guns used in crimes are purchase illegally - it seems they should be closed

The issue here though is that as somebody else mentioned - Manchin-Toomey might not have even done that

Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at April 17, 2013 01:42 PM (PeB4U)

446 All I know is the bad guys lost here. I don'tcare how they spin it orhow many names they call us. THEY LOST. WE WON.

Posted by: non-gun owning gun rights supporter at April 17, 2013 05:34 PM (x9s9/)

 

Not for long, I'm guessing. The far-Left comprising the Democratic Party's base has been pressing President Obama to use the regulatory powers of the Executive to do a runaround on any congressional legislation (or lack of legislation). Unlike Democratic members of the House and Senate, the President doesn't have to worry about reelection. The temptation to play god in the machine and 'take action when Congress won't' will be too great for him to resist.

 

I'm betting he'll go after ammunition imports first.

Posted by: troyriser at April 17, 2013 01:42 PM (vtiE6)

447 And just what was that "core principle" that he violated Always stretch before squats.

Posted by: zsasz at April 17, 2013 01:42 PM (MMC8r)

448 And if there are loopholes between private dealers

Loopholes?  Is that like tax cuts costing the government money?

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 01:43 PM (evdj2)

449 Ace: "I can conceive of a hypothetical bill which might protect some babies, which I do not think the Democratic caucus would support."

Awesome.  Best twenty bucks I've ever donated to a website this year.  Thanks, Ace.

Posted by: mrp at April 17, 2013 01:43 PM (HjPtV)

450 Obama just called the filibuster a "distortion of Senate rules" He is pissed. FUCK HIM

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 17, 2013 01:43 PM (wR+pz)

451 It is even a federal felony to submit false information on a background check form for the purpose of purchasing a firearm. Posted by: Jay in PA at April 17, 2013 05:07 PM (WSgyE) So obviously we need more laws because responsible citizens are still able to purchase guns legally!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2013 01:44 PM (Cnqmv)

452 Billy Bob, use Weiner...  he seems to get off on that.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:44 PM (OCvUs)

453 He is a lying sack of shit. He really doesn't give a shit what he says.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 17, 2013 01:44 PM (wR+pz)

454 Obama just called the filibuster a "distortion of Senate rules"

In fairness, no one ever suggested he was a genius.

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 01:44 PM (evdj2)

455 Obama is on tv lying.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 17, 2013 01:44 PM (052zE)

456 Concern troll is concerned. I shed a single tear.
Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks

Wasted.

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 01:44 PM (R18D0)

457 Soothsayer, that is like saying water is wet.  Duh! 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:45 PM (OCvUs)

458 Obama is on tv lying.

It is a day ending in a Y.

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 01:45 PM (evdj2)

459 397 Dave Sirota Andrew Sullivan David Corn What's the connection, you guys? Posted by: Strife at April 17, 2013 05:31 PM (Ul1S7) CORN - hole.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2013 01:45 PM (tqLft)

460

"And if there are loopholes between private dealers?"

 

Ummmm, if I'm not an FFL holder, I'm not a dealer. I'm just an average Joe selling to a neighbor or friend and a background check isn't needed.


Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 17, 2013 01:45 PM (uhftQ)

461 Fox turned him off by CNN has him on and MSDNC His using these people as a props. He is in full fuck you I am campaigning mode. We lied, so his bill died. FUCK HIM

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 17, 2013 01:46 PM (wR+pz)

462 I'm just an average Joe selling to a neighbor or friend and a background check isn't needed.

Additionally, it's already illegal for you to knowing sell to a prohibited person.

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 01:46 PM (evdj2)

463 A distortion of Senate rules is when Reid bottles up bills with no debate allowed or passes 2700 page bills, no one has read, in the dark of night, the night before christmas.Watch for the JEF to do something unconstitutional . Whose gonna stop him a bunch of ball -less repunks?

Posted by: Chris Matthews at April 17, 2013 01:46 PM (bpsQc)

464 That must be it, because that's what the bill was trying to prevent.

No it was not.  Not in any way, shape or form.  That bill was aimed at non-criminal citizens.  Why in the world some people can't understand that criminals can and will obtain weapons illegally is beyond me.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 17, 2013 01:46 PM (mKNJE)

465 Actually please define what the heck you mean by 'private' dealers?

Or do you hate private individuals owning anything?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:47 PM (OCvUs)

466 In fairness, no one ever suggested he was a genius. Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 05:44 PM (evdj2) I thought he was a "constitutional scholar"?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 17, 2013 01:47 PM (wR+pz)

467 @463

The loopholes are the ones other have mentioned in the thread where apparently gun sales between private dealers at gun shows or online don't require background checks.  This isn't the amorphous Obama 'I'll balance the budget and pay for Obamacare with imaginary tax loopholes I"ll close'

Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at April 17, 2013 01:47 PM (PeB4U)

468 Now, if you could only articulate what that core principle is.Nah... that's would take thinking and thinking is hard.

Posted by: jwest at April 17, 2013 05:37 PM (u2a4R)

 

 

-----------------------------------------

 

 

Core principle?  How about the 2d Amendment.  It's in the Constituion.  You should read it.  Besides, we already have laws that restrict gun sales.

Posted by: Soona at April 17, 2013 01:47 PM (XbwR1)

469 Additionally, it's already illegal for you to knowing sell to a prohibited person.

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks

***

 

Thank you, that is exactly right.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 17, 2013 01:47 PM (uhftQ)

470 God we love seeing him so mad! Did we say Fuck him? FORWARD! Barry, how do you like the taste of our ass now?

Posted by: The NRA at April 17, 2013 01:48 PM (wR+pz)

471 I'm betting he'll go after ammunition imports first. Posted by: troyriser at April 17, 2013 05:42 PM (vtiE6) Expect a bunch of EO directives to the DHS, BATF, & EPA on the regulation of ammunition production in CONUS.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2013 01:48 PM (Cnqmv)

472 Or do you hate private individuals owning anything? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 05:47 PM (OCvUs) All your everything are belong to us!

Posted by: Barky Ochooma I at April 17, 2013 01:49 PM (Cnqmv)

473 The loopholes are the ones other have mentioned in the thread where apparently gun sales between private dealers at gun shows or online don't require background checks.

My point being that your question implies that the government, by right, can control the private sale of legal commodities between private citizens at their whim.  Don't let them steal first base like that.

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 01:49 PM (evdj2)

474 Barry, EAT US!

Posted by: The NRA at April 17, 2013 01:49 PM (wR+pz)

475 I thought he was a "constitutional scholar"? Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 17, 2013 05:47 PM (wR+pz)

Posted by: h at April 17, 2013 01:49 PM (Cnqmv)

476

Obama is on tv lying.

 

His lips are moving?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 17, 2013 01:49 PM (+z4pE)

477 Barry shut the fuck up and eat your rice

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at April 17, 2013 01:50 PM (bpsQc)

478 Somebody give him a waffle.

Posted by: B at April 17, 2013 01:50 PM (6iEQd)

479 If one FFL dealer sells a weapon to another FFL dealer because they have a customer looking for that weapon, guess what happens.  Two inventory books are updated.  Then the FFL buyer goes and sells the weapon so their inventory book is updated again.

What loophole?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:50 PM (OCvUs)

480 OT: Unbelievable! Jay Carney was asked if US bombing in Afghanistan was a form of terrorism and he did not say "NO." http://tinyurl.com/bqbrjrm

Posted by: Baldy at April 17, 2013 01:50 PM (opS9C)

481 What about "Fast and Furious" you still going to give guns to Mexicans?

Posted by: The NRA at April 17, 2013 01:50 PM (wR+pz)

482 The loopholes are the ones other have mentioned in the thread where apparently gun sales between private dealers at gun shows or online don't require background checks. This isn't the amorphous Obama 'I'll balance the budget and pay for Obamacare with imaginary tax loopholes I"ll close'
Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE

So if I sell an old pair of shoes to a friend,  are you calling me a private shoe dealer?

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 01:51 PM (R18D0)

483
Bwahahahaha.  As an ex-senator, Obama doesn't even know the senate rules.

dumbass.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 17, 2013 01:51 PM (mKNJE)

484 Obama just called the filibuster a "distortion of Senate rules" Hmm, didn't he glorify the fillibuster during his long, distinguished tenure in the Senate?

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 17, 2013 01:51 PM (UU0OF)

485 Obama on radio sounding like a crybaby POS.  80% of republicans support bill.. ?

He really thinks this bill would have stopped an insane shooter.  WOW

Best. Men.

PS - FUCK YOU

Posted by: shut off the TV at April 17, 2013 01:51 PM (B4kSp)

486 >>>>Nah... that's would take thinking and thinking is hard. Jwest: taking the easy way since 2008.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 17, 2013 01:52 PM (JhS4R)

487 @488

I generally agree with you on that - but in the case of guns there's already regulation during the sale when you're buying from an FFL dealer.  It seems from what you and others have intimated in the thread that if you don't have an FFL that selling to another citizen is illegal? so then these background checks etc would redundant and be a case of extra bureaucracy instead of enforcement.

Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at April 17, 2013 01:52 PM (PeB4U)

488 I thought for Democrats thinking was racist.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 01:52 PM (OCvUs)

489

The loopholes are the ones other have mentioned in
the thread where apparently gun sales between private dealers at gun
shows or online don't require background checks. This isn't the
amorphous Obama 'I'll balance the budget and pay for Obamacare with
imaginary tax loopholes I"ll close'

 

So there are Private Dealers and Public Dealers now?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 17, 2013 01:52 PM (+z4pE)

490 Bring it on bitch. You want to make guns THE issue in the next election? Hot damn. US Senate for us.

Posted by: The NRA at April 17, 2013 01:52 PM (wR+pz)

491 Bwahahahaha. As an ex-senator, Obama doesn't even know the senate rules.

dumbass.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

I was late on that day.  Session.  Term.  Whatever.

Posted by: Barely Obama at April 17, 2013 01:53 PM (R18D0)

492 Why didn't you come to me like a man and tell me there was a new thread?

Posted by: toby928© of the sticky socks at April 17, 2013 01:53 PM (evdj2)

493 Someone call out his momma. Maybe his head will explode. He's getting close.

Posted by: The NRA at April 17, 2013 01:54 PM (wR+pz)

494 Witness the "power" of Obama lobbying! SAD.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 17, 2013 01:54 PM (wR+pz)

495 "And if there are loopholes between private dealers?"

Ummmm, if I'm not an FFL holder, I'm not a dealer. I'm just an average Joe selling to a neighbor or friend and a background check isn't needed.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 17, 2013 05:45 PM (uhftQ)

 

I can't speak for other states but my home state (Indiana) does not allow private sales without going through an FFL. I can give/bequeath my firearms to my children or spouse or as a gift to anyone as long as I have a 'reasonable' belief the recipient is not a felon or a wife beater or drug addict or mentally unstable, etc., but can't sell them outright.

 

The 'loophole' the anti-gun people are so worried about doesn't exist where I live. Probably doesn't exist anywhere else, either.

Posted by: troyriser at April 17, 2013 01:54 PM (vtiE6)

496 Look at me!  I'm a private car dealer!  (I sold a used car and bought a used car,  you guys!)  Something new for the resume!

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 01:55 PM (R18D0)

497 Obama is more angry at the bill not passing than he is at the bombing..

This sounds like it was meant as some kind of 'legislative xanax' because something bad happened.

Is that what bills have become? Serious you guys

Posted by: shut off the TV at April 17, 2013 01:55 PM (B4kSp)

498 Again - asking mostly to be informed - this is my understanding of gun sales from folks in the thread + some basic googling

Interstate + Intrastate sales are regulated by the govt by requiring FFL in order to sell/manufacture

Those selling w/o an FFL are doing so illegally and the required checks, etc are being imposed on them

In that case it seems the amendment would be redundant - tell me if I'm making a mistake.  Also I"m guessing the govt is invoking a commerce clause/wickard argument to regulate intrastate sales?


Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at April 17, 2013 01:58 PM (PeB4U)

499

Vaginal warts.
Posted by: Roy at April 17, 2013 04:52 PM (VndSC)

Just an occupational hazard.  My vajayjay looks like a cornfield after it has been tilled for planting.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 17, 2013 01:58 PM (YYyqq)

500 I can't speak for other states but my home state (Indiana) does not allow private sales without going through an FFL.  Posted by: troyriser


Guess again.  From you state gov website...

http://www.in.gov/isp/files/2010_Firearms_Purchasing_FAQ%283%29.pdf


If I purchase a handgun from a private person, do I have to complete a transfer
form?

No. Indiana does not require the completion of a form for a private purchase nor do you
have to route the transfer through a dealer. Recommend reviewing statutes in IC 35-
47-2.5 which is the chapter regulating the sale of handguns in regards to a private sale
or purchase. The department also recommends exchanging receipts to document the
transfer.



Try looking shit up next time.

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 01:59 PM (R18D0)

501 @510

Thanks - that's what I was alluding to - though it seems like the 1968 gun control act covers both inter and some intra state sales?

With respect to the private dealer reference here is the FFL description:

Private sales between unlicensed individuals who are residents of the same state are allowed under federal law so long as such transfers do not violate the other existing federal and state laws. While current law mandates that a background check be performed if the seller has a federal firearms license, private parties living in the same state are not required to perform such checks under federal law. State laws however can prohibit such sales.

A person who does not have a Federal Firearms License may not be in the business of buying or selling firearms. Individuals buying and selling firearms without a federal license must be doing so from their own personal collection.


Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at April 17, 2013 02:01 PM (PeB4U)

502 So the Federal FFL description you quote is trying to blur the line between a licensed dealer who's business model is to sell guns and make a profit and some guy who is trying to thin out his personal collection.

Yet more verbal gymnastics to get people in trouble over.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 17, 2013 02:03 PM (OCvUs)

503 Try looking shit up next time.

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 05:59 PM (R18D0)

 

I stand corrected. I will. And thanks for being so polite about it, asshole.

Posted by: troyriser at April 17, 2013 02:04 PM (vtiE6)

504 I stand corrected. I will. And thanks for being so polite about it, asshole. Posted by: troyriser

You must be new here.

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 02:06 PM (R18D0)

505 “failed” *for NOW*………………………the radical gun grabbers will N E V E R…………. E V E R give up……….NOW is the time for ALL freedom loving Americans to be even MORE diligent!

Posted by: Katfish at April 17, 2013 02:07 PM (Nx5wc)

506 I stand corrected. I will. And thanks for being so polite about it, asshole. Posted by: troyriser

And I didn't call you any names.  *wipes away a tear*

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 02:09 PM (R18D0)

507 521 I stand corrected.


And I stand ERECTED!!!...BAM!!!

Posted by: David Sirota at April 17, 2013 02:13 PM (ujrve)

508 Dang, tr can't help himself 521. Our local rag, an appendage of the Austin-American Statesman libtard press, today promoted the new gun control legislation having visited a recent gun show and interviewing folks there. People get all excited to "have their say" in the press. The public enemy? Mental health.

Posted by: Speedy Gonzales at April 17, 2013 02:15 PM (MhA4j)

509 @517

Nah - for regulatory legalese its actually pretty clear.  Only interstate sales are regulated for both groups (FFL and non FFL holders) while intrastate sales are only regulated for those who want to run a business for profit like you said - then it's up to the state.  I guess the amendment would extend it to all groups - which would have an effect on what I'm guessing are a lot of states (like Indiana). 

Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at April 17, 2013 02:18 PM (PeB4U)

510

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 06:06 PM (R18D0)

 

Yes, I'm new here. That's me all right. Sure is nice to know there are fact checkers like you lurking around, ready to spring into action at a moment's notice. It's a lonely, thankless job, I know, but thanks so much for doing it.

Posted by: troyriser at April 17, 2013 02:19 PM (vtiE6)

511 And I didn't call you any names. *wipes away a tear*

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2013 06:09 PM (R18D0)

 

Thought about it. You're right. That 'asshole' remark was uncalled-for.

Posted by: troyriser at April 17, 2013 02:20 PM (vtiE6)

512 They ain't done. America is on the ropes and they intend to kill her.

Posted by: EROWMER at April 17, 2013 02:24 PM (kxlCQ)

513 Why do I have a BIGOT pointing at me ??

Posted by: RIK at April 17, 2013 02:33 PM (voTNA)

514 I'm still not sure I can vote for Toomey next election.  He's looking more and more like ol' Arlen Specter every day.

Posted by: Mr Tea at April 17, 2013 02:35 PM (P2dfK)

515 527 They ain't done. America is on the ropes and they intend to kill her. Posted by: EROWMER at April 17, 2013 06:24 PM (kxlCQ) Rope the dopes.

Posted by: RIK at April 17, 2013 02:36 PM (voTNA)

516 Let's do it for the children. For the babies. From the party that adamantly stands for the right to kill 3M babies a year. For the sake of convenience.

Posted by: Electric at April 17, 2013 02:40 PM (S+L7S)

517 So am I safe to still keep an AR-15 under the pulpit?

Posted by: Pastor Angry at April 17, 2013 02:48 PM (0jX8P)

518 Guns will not protect you from the terrible secret of space.

Posted by: Mark Kelly, Space Ranger at April 17, 2013 05:22 PM (CrO2/)

519 Kilgore: Smell that? You smell that?

Lance: What?

Kilgore: Legislation, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.

[kneels]

Kilgore: I love the smell of defeated legislation in the afternoon. The smell, you know that legislative smell, the whole hill. Smelled like

[sniffing, pondering]

Kilgore: LAME DUCK. Someday this administration's gonna end...

Posted by: Apocalypse Obama at April 18, 2013 08:27 AM (e8kgV)

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