January 29, 2013
— Gabriel Malor Happy Tuesday.
France is "totally bankrupt," says the French labour minister. Hollande's government is now denying it vigorously, saying the labour minister "mispoke," but the flight of French capital from Hollande's insanely huge taxes is unmistakeable. I love the picture the Telegraph chose to illustrate this article.
Rasmussen finds just 36 percent now identify as "pro-life," down from 43 percent in January 2012. Thank you, Rep. Akin.
Lucasfilm (now under the control of Disney) is cancelling the 3D re-releases of the previous movies, thank God.
Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder is sending the state's new right-to-work law directly to the state Supreme Court for review. Unions were shopping around for their favorite lower court judges to stay the law pending review, so Snyder decided to moot that process and ask the Supremes to make with the final ruling already. Republicans currently have a 4-2 majority on the state Supreme Court, after a Democratic justice "retired" last month upon discovery of her extensive money laundering and property fraud.
State Department office to close Guantanamo closes before Guantanamo does.
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Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 02:53 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2013 02:53 AM (XkWWK)
IMMIGRATION REFORM: Obama Wades Into Debate As Critics Fear 'Amnesty'
Watch the reporting on this folks. Fox has always loved them some amnesty.
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Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 02:55 AM (53z96)
"I think the President understands the Constitution enough to know that he would prefer a different type of constitution. [Supreme Court Justice] Ginsberg said she admired the South African Constitution. So, I think that's more of where the President is coming from. They would rather have positive rights, enumerated, that everyone has the right to water, housing, haircuts, you name it."
Translation: He wants a “Commietution” And he doesn’t want to work through the legal methods of getting it. A Republican would have been impeached his second year in office.
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Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 02:57 AM (53z96)
Hey! I needs a bailout too!
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And thatÂ’s it for Tuesday, January 29, 2013.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 02:58 AM (53z96)
I did have to change the cocks and socks thyme though. Until next week, you can't say that to Boy Scouts. So I did the Cub Scout version: "Drop your weenies and grab your beanies."
Thanks, Chief.
Posted by: comatus at January 29, 2013 03:00 AM (qaVK+)
Posted by: comatus at January 29, 2013 07:00 AM (qaVK+)
I wasn't a Chief, I was an E-6
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 03:03 AM (53z96)
Good morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes. And thanks for the morning briefing, Gabe and Vic. If I’d known we were going to start off by repeating that we’re all Victor Lazlo, I’d have a Casablanca story ready to go. But I don’t. Frankly, I think we’re all Sam, trying to coax a song out of a fake piano.
So on to todayÂ’s story: in MGM in the 1930s, seeing Louis B Mayer - if he didn't want to see you was nearly impossible. His outer office was the domain of a dragon lady named Ida Koverman, who looked like a stereotypical doting grandma, but, in the memories of old studio hands, was anything but.
Seeing Irving Thalberg, the "boy wonder" head of production, was easier, if no less a test of your mettle. There was a wide streak of passive-aggressiveness in Thalberg, and while he would readily agree to see you, it was just as likely you would wait in his outer office for hours or even days before the great man deigned to usher you into his presence. The Marx Brothers found this out in 1935, when they left Paramount for MGM.
Their first conference with Thalberg was set for 10am. They arrived on time, waited in the outer office for four hours and then left. Their conference was rescheduled for 2.00pm the next day; this time, they had to wait an hour before being shown into Thalberg's office. Groucho, for his part, blasted Thalberg right off the bat: "We've been stars in three Broadway shows, in vaudeville and in motion pictures. When we have an appointment, we are accustomed to having it kept. In the future, don't ever call us unless we can see you at the appointed hour."
Thalberg apologized, promising to be punctual from then on. And, when the Marxes had their next conference with Thalberg, the meeting began right on time. But after about twenty minutes, Thalberg was called away on "urgent business," leaving Groucho, Chico and Harpo to talk to an empty office "All right," said Harpo, "let's show him." They pushed filing cabinets up against Thalberg's door, climbed out of the window and left. The next time they met, Thalberg was on time, but again, in the middle of the meeting, got called away.
Harpo marched down to the studio commissary while Chico and Groucho stripped off their clothes and built a roaring fire in the office fireplace. When Thalberg finally returned, he found the three brothers, stark naked, sitting in front of the fire roasting potatoes.
"Wait a minute, boys!" he laughed, and called down to the commissary for butter for the potatoes.
He never walked out on them again.
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Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 06:57 AM (53z96)
Is it possible for Boehner to go 24 hours without going full retard?
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 29, 2013 03:06 AM (IPzh2)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2013 03:07 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 03:12 AM (9ScGj)
Rolling out boisterous scouts will only be half the problem apparently the progressives have won and Boy Scouts of America will admit gay scout masters.
The revolution rolls on.
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 29, 2013 03:13 AM (RrD4h)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2013 07:07 AM (XkWWK)
Glad to oblige, J.J. If you haven't, get your hands on a copy of Richard Anobile's The Marx Brothers Scrapbook, which contains interviews Anobile did with Groucho, Zeppo, Gummo and a number of writers and song pluggers (like Morrie Ryskind) who were associated with the Brothers. It's absolutely fascinating if you're a fan of the Marxes, and an invaluable reminiscence of early vaudeville if you're not.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 29, 2013 03:14 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Bigby's Cold Dead Hands at January 29, 2013 03:16 AM (mroIu)
I will be taking wifey to the "city" tomorrow morning for surgery to close the hole in her throat where they had the breathing tube.
So there will be no early morning news tomorrow.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 03:17 AM (53z96)
think positive, he is just trying to compete with Barry "Skeets" Giggles worrying over his imaginary son not playing NFL football because of "the cycle of violence"....
and Giggles is so athletic that Trayvon Obama would have been a blue chipper.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:19 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 03:19 AM (9ScGj)
Bigby's Cold Dead Hands
That's nothing. Wait until we get us some illegals amnestied. The whole damn thing will be at half price.
Posted by: Bruce at January 29, 2013 03:19 AM (dLOky)
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 29, 2013 03:19 AM (IPzh2)
Gay men leading young men, women going into combat alongside men and non-citizens gaining the same rights as citizens.
THIS IS MADNESS?
This is all becoming a sad sad joke.
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 29, 2013 03:19 AM (RrD4h)
And I just remembered, in these last moments before diving into the mound of paperwork on my desk, that I didnÂ’t do my daily pestering. So: BUY MY BOOK! ThatÂ’s right, buy The DirectorÂ’s Cut: A Theda Bara Mystery, now on Kindle, available through the Amazon and Barnes and Noble websites, or through any good bookstore.
Now that you’ve read my commercial, here’s one more Marx Brothers story: Groucho was once being interviewed. “In the act, you were the fast-talking wordsmith and Harpo the seemingly idiot comedian who was a musical savant. But what did Chico* contribute?”
Groucho took a puff on his famous cigar and answered, “Chico introduced gonorrhea to the Orpheum vaudeville circuit.”
*it’s pronounced CHIK-o, as in “look at the boobehs on that chick,” not CHEEK-o.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 29, 2013 03:20 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 03:21 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 03:21 AM (53z96)
Vic - hope all goes well. I'll remember the two of you in my prayers.
Off to work now. See y'all in a bit.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 29, 2013 03:22 AM (zF6Iw)
Yup. Article V is the right call period. Obama wants a new Constitution and oddly so do I.
It's the one thing he and I agree on.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:22 AM (LRFds)
Funny how dependent you become on your morning routine, and when something unexpected happens like yesterday's comment collapse how it can mess up your day
Posted by: Dish of Red at January 29, 2013 03:23 AM (Dmq63)
I'd sure like to see what makes him so confident. I haven't gotten that vibe, and given that the pro-amnesty folks start at least 3 Repubs up (McCain, Graham, and Collins), and Reid is gutting the filibuster, I don't know how they'll stop it. Perhaps in the house, but I'm not confident.
Posted by: pep at January 29, 2013 03:24 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 03:25 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 03:25 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 29, 2013 03:25 AM (Jcd0S)
Posted by: Bigby's Cold Dead Hands at January 29, 2013 03:25 AM (mroIu)
But it's all moot if they don't enforce the borders, which Rubio said will be part of the bill. Knowing that laws don't apply to TFG though, that part of the law will be ignored. If they added some kind of penalty to the government for non-enforcement of border security, it would make me feel better.
Posted by: Marmo at January 29, 2013 03:26 AM (pcgW1)
Yeah about the whole Article V convention, does anyone really want to open up the constitution to amendment with this media and these "leaders?"
I do not think it will go so well for our side.
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 29, 2013 03:26 AM (RrD4h)
Posted by: Vic
Good, I turn on ABC early morning news to find out what's REALLY going on.
Good luck and safe travels Vic.
Posted by: Bruce at January 29, 2013 03:26 AM (dLOky)
depends on what the minutes hand on the watch is....then he says there is no bill, then he says there have been secret meetings for eleventy years....
fuck 'em all.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:27 AM (LRFds)
Depends. Are you alone, riding in the green fields with the sun on your face? If so, you are in Elysium, and you're already dead! ?
Posted by: Maximus at January 29, 2013 03:27 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Bigby's Cold Dead Hands at January 29, 2013 03:28 AM (mroIu)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 03:28 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 03:29 AM (9ScGj)
Why not? Barry is playing games to the point he is using an imaginary Constitution he dreamed up on choom. Unless our representatives fight for the "real thing" Barack has his "new coke" version as defacto law anyway.
The best part is imagine we somehow get power back, the media will suddenly become the most strict interpretationalists under the sun again.
This ain't one country and hasn't been for a LONG time.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:29 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 03:29 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Gay Marriage at January 29, 2013 03:29 AM (VrVBw)
No, it's moot if they are even started on the path to citizenship. They'll get it, and quickly, and they might as well be handed their DNC cards as they do. The political slant of the country will forever change.
Posted by: pep at January 29, 2013 03:30 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 03:30 AM (hO8IJ)
I know one of those. She quilts.
Also a pagan Obamabot, so we're no longer in touch.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 03:31 AM (hO8IJ)
Donkey is assuring his "burn it down" caucus that the blue ribbon is non binding and based on everything I can find I believe Donkey.
Giggles beating his chest and saying "no instant amnesty!" tells me all I need to know.
There is no real enforcement.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:31 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 03:32 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Bigby's Cold Dead Hands at January 29, 2013 03:32 AM (mroIu)
#66 The political slant of the country has already changed. According to Rubio, the path to citizenship will be long, like 10 years or more, and they go to the end of the line.
I'm not happy about all this, either, but it is inevitable.
Posted by: Marmo at January 29, 2013 03:33 AM (pcgW1)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 03:33 AM (l86i3)
Gay Transvestite Eunuchs who still fear the bicycle bar are an underrepresented demographic in the combat arms....we must get to the bottom of this discrimination.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:33 AM (LRFds)
The problems with it are many fold.
1) We do not have "leaders" on our side that can match the commies in rhetorically and demagogically.
2) The Progressives have a baked into the cake army of agitators in the Unions.
3) America elected Barack Hussein Obama, a miserable failure in every and all ways possible - Twice.
TWICE!!!!!
I do believe it would be calamitous for our cause.
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 29, 2013 03:34 AM (RrD4h)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 29, 2013 03:34 AM (Jcd0S)
My brother's gay divorce was as pathetic as his gay marriage.
But at least they had a fabulous European honeymoon that my parents are still paying off.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 03:35 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Bigby's Cold Dead Hands at January 29, 2013 07:25 AM (mroIu)
After his Plan B clusterfuck, he's not exactly the gold standard on counting votes. I don't think he can count over 20: the number of cigarettes in a pack.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 29, 2013 03:35 AM (IPzh2)
Posted by: Bigby's Cold Dead Hands at January 29, 2013 03:35 AM (mroIu)
The fact is, if they don't pass something, TFG's gonna do it a la Reagan, and in the process we will have chaos along the border, worse than we have now.
In fact, this list of things that "must" be in the bill, debuting in his speech today, are the things that will give him an excuse to sign an EO if not every condition is met.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2013 03:35 AM (GoIUi)
That's the point. There was also no way we could "fix" the Artciles of Confederation, We decided to do something else, and that time the states hung together. This time I'd do everything I could to see us split and realign.
Vic was out sick during the Constitutional Convention but I'm pretty sure he sent letters to the editor.
Heh
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:35 AM (LRFds)
I fear the bicycle bar. I had a men's bike when I was a teen, and the time I fell on it, it HURT LIKE A BITCH.
Delicate tissues are delicate.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 03:36 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: @johntant at January 29, 2013 03:36 AM (y/0YQ)
That's my offer and I'm sticking to it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 29, 2013 07:34 AM (Jcd0S)
That works for me, particularly if they throw Lucas on top of the burning pyre.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 29, 2013 03:37 AM (IPzh2)
Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 03:37 AM (CWlPF)
Posted by: Gump. Forest Gump. at January 29, 2013 03:37 AM (tjsV4)
We always wind up with the government we deserve. Evidently Santa decided in lieu of jamming 16 tons of coal down my chimney he's send 186 pounds of shit at my nation as King. Better to get their bullshit out in the open and plan accordingly.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:38 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 03:38 AM (9ScGj)
yeah wife says the same thing..."it is not funny it is not"
Well I wouldn't wish a woman to impact it...Al Franken on the other hand...?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:39 AM (LRFds)
Remember how I've been yammering away that everyone is going to be contract workers whether they want to or not? Yeah. I told you so - http://on.wsj.com/UyQS3z
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 29, 2013 03:40 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 03:40 AM (CWlPF)
Posted by: Golan Globus at January 29, 2013 03:42 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 03:42 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 03:42 AM (CWlPF)
I think he blamed Todd Akin, who is an idiot. He didn't blame the "far right wing."
Idiots and "far right wing" are not always synonymous.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2013 03:42 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Bigby's Cold Dead Hands at January 29, 2013 03:43 AM (mroIu)
I would rather defend what we have now than open it up to alteration.
The possibility for outright revocation of our rights is a very real possibility.
Would you trust Boehner and McConnel at a constitutional convention?
What sort of damage could a Schumer, Reid, Durbin, et al do???
SHUDDER!!!!
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 29, 2013 03:43 AM (RrD4h)
*paints a picture of a tunnel on a rock wall and waits*
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 03:43 AM (hO8IJ)
Three Kingdoms ep 7 3/3....
You know there are times Chinese history reminds me that it could be worse....
in this episode after another attempt on his life Prime Minister Dong Zhuo feeds the Imperial Court human remains soup....
safe for work mostly not graphic but bothersome.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:43 AM (LRFds)
Obama wants to do something, the Dems seem to have the upper hand, and Repubs fight over the extent to which they will cave on it.
Everybody points fingers, which frankly, starts to look like we're all in this together. I don't care if amnesty passes. I really don't.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2013 03:45 AM (BeSEI)
I'd prefer decent people exert pressure and find out what rights there really are.
I understand the anxiety, but in the end I think the sections of the country would make clear what mattered to them and it would be better for all involved.
Hard to have a revolution if all the cards are on the table.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:45 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Bigby's Cold Dead Hands at January 29, 2013 03:46 AM (mroIu)
I do know an engineer from Thuringia, but he works for the Bundespatentamt.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 03:46 AM (hO8IJ)
Yeah I understand the desire but amnesty REALLY is the whole ballgame this time.
We cave on this you're right no need to argue the Bill of Rights anymore, Chuck Schumer will go down in history as "the 2d Madison" that shit keeps me awake at night.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:47 AM (LRFds)
1. There are more red States than blue States and each State only gets 1 vote in a CV.
2. The people going to the convention will not be the same people who are in Washington now. And each State could insist that the attendees have never been elected to any office higher than a city or county job.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 03:47 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 29, 2013 03:48 AM (Jcd0S)
heh....later on there's an event where a hermit serves his best meal to Liu Bei....funny stuff.
It's like Swift's "Modest Proposal"
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:49 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: puddleglum at January 29, 2013 03:49 AM (cYHaz)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 03:49 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 03:50 AM (l86i3)
So over the weekend we had a bonehead help us pro 2nd amendment peoples out by walking into a Kroger grocery store with a loaded AR-15 here in downtown Charlottesville. FUll on panic ensued and the anti-gun nuts went ballistic. Thanks, seriously thank you for your help dipshit.
Best wishes to the wife Vic.
Posted by: Talibill at January 29, 2013 03:50 AM (WEWGu)
Reagan never did anything via executive fiat. The amnesty bill he signed was another bi-partison cave in from Congress. And after the Democrats welched on their end of the deal RR said it was a mistake not to veto it.
As for "Rubio's Reasonable" bill - BS. No bill is reasonable that adds 30 million new FSA members and Democrat voters.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 03:50 AM (53z96)
You guys are softies. Lock him in a cell with audio clips of Jar-Jar piped in 24/7. When he begs for the sweet release of death, more Jar-Jar.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 03:51 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 03:51 AM (9ScGj)
The book doesn't promise ease. Not trying to be macho either I suspect it will be like the new Fabulous Scouts wind up being....greatly reduced in numbers.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:51 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 03:51 AM (GVxQo)
It's not Akin it's the enforced climate of not being able to call Abortion exactly what it is - MURDER!
Gaze at pictures of a 1st trimester abortion and explain how it's not.
We have allowed the progressives and the media to define the debate and the means at which they fight.
If we have to cede ground at least lets make the case in a conservative/libertarian manner.
Personally I am against abortion, if a woman wants to murder her child the supreme court, though clearly misguided, has said that is her right.
She can murder her child, I do not want to pay for it and no tax revenues should go to paying for it.
And states or localities should be able to prohibit the services from being offered.
You may have a right to murder your child but you do not have the right to compel someone to do it for you!
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 29, 2013 03:52 AM (RrD4h)
Posted by: Harry Reid (D-NV) at January 29, 2013 03:53 AM (SSWdi)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 03:54 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 03:55 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2013 03:56 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 07:51 AM (GVxQo)
Yeah when I see stats like that it makes me question just how much of a commitment to being pro life they really had. Or maybe it was another leading question.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 29, 2013 03:56 AM (IPzh2)
Yeah there is a special class of fake 2dA supporter who insists on pushing the law to the utmost limit, never grasping that localities have a LOT of leeway on gun control. I wish I'd retained more of my make up skills from my time in drama club, I did pretty mean mime make-up, it'd be a blast to do Eddie Murphy's white people make-up gag in reverse and to create a Mirror Universe Al $harpton who was "honest."
Add in that there's a chance it is a dem union activist playing games to get the donks the news they want....
I feel like my last firewalls against the hall of mirrors are falling away.
They are not all powerful, all seeing, or all knowing they are Bawney Fwank for god's sakes but it is hard to keep remembering that when "everything magically goes their way."
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:56 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 07:51 AM (9ScGj)
If they follow the same rules as before each State gets one vote and a simple majority carries what ever was being voted on. However, it will still take 3/4ths of the States to approve it for it to go into effect.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 03:56 AM (53z96)
Posted by: we are so screwed, deliver us oh SMOD at January 29, 2013 03:56 AM (HEa5q)
Vic, I hope your wife does well tomorrow. Safe trip!
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2013 03:56 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 03:57 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 03:57 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 29, 2013 03:58 AM (Jcd0S)
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 03:58 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 03:58 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 29, 2013 03:59 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Marco Rubio at January 29, 2013 03:59 AM (/zrB9)
Now, at some point not too long after that, she realized either a) that she hated music (you wouldn't figure that out after going to school for it for 8 years?), or b) that she couldn't make a living in "music theory," (more likely) so she went back and got a degree in human biology and then became a physical therapist.
On my last (and final, yay me!) visit, she and I and one of the other patients got to talking about musical theater (they both liked Les Mis, I watched it once as a teenager, and decided I didn't want to spend money to be depressed) and she vouchsafed that her daughter was in CA majoring in musical theater.
It was with some fortitude that I refrained from asking her, "Obviously that didn't work so well for you. Did you even consider telling her to major in a STEM degree, and minor in musical theater? Do you realize that most actors on Broadway don't even bother with "degrees" of any kind?"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:00 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 04:01 AM (JDIKC)
THIS.
But given the radically expanded population of weak minds over the last 40 years (thanks teacher's unions!!) he didn't do us any favors.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 04:01 AM (sbV1u)
As others have already stated the problem is that we have an uneven battlefield inflicted on us and our "allies" happily accept it.
Somehow in America I am responsible for every insane person's actions with a weapon, get credit for none of the good done with weapons, and should be personally singled out and frozen according to the media. This is called "reasonable knowledge and preparation info" by the media and politicians. They are undermining an enumerated right but "better tomorrow for the kids eleventy!"
We pro-lifers are not allowed to call "late term" what it is, murder. Barack Obama is not allowed to be questioned on TV as to why he favors letting babies die in a linen closet, and because his side is below replacement rate they love cyclic amnesty for illegal mexicans. This is called "commonsense morality."
I want a divorce because despite liking the tapioca pudding they serve at insane asylums, I don't really want the cognitive constructs prevalent there as baseline for my nation.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:01 AM (LRFds)
Indiana couple faces possibility of jail time after rescuing injured deer
http://t.co/Hpm9FUdu
When the Councellers found her in 2010, she was unable to stand, and her maggot-infested wound was ugly. The Councellers contacted DNR at the time but were told to return the deer to the wild and let nature take its course.
"It would have been a death sentence," Jeff said.
"She would have laid there and starved to death and had a miserable death," Jennifer said.
So they took the deer home.
The deer escaped the night before its scheduled execution by the DNR.I'm a big fan of venison but not pointless cruelty, you know?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 04:02 AM (hO8IJ)
Does it swirl the opposite way in Canada?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 04:02 AM (sbV1u)
Yeah pretty much sense in this nation is inversely proportional to the rise of the Boomer generation as being in charge of education.
I suspect it will only get worse.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:02 AM (LRFds)
About 10 minutes.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:03 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 04:03 AM (9ScGj)
In Oz the same decline goes the other way or so I'm told....up North you just have better natural lighting eh?
Hope you're well Jeff.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:04 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 29, 2013 04:04 AM (p/cQy)
Yeah pretty much sense in this nation is inversely proportional to the rise of the Boomer generation as being in charge of education.
As the twig is bent, so grows the tree.
Or, to put it in GeekSpeak, GIGO.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 29, 2013 04:05 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Golan Globus at January 29, 2013 04:05 AM (/1U3u)
That, and (what they're closer to describing) my strategy of having one company do your "Core" business, then set up (or hire) other companies to "outsource" your IT, HR, etc.
So while 100 - 200 people are all working in the same office, only 49 of them are "employees."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:05 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Case at January 29, 2013 04:06 AM (vVmp0)
Learn some damn history.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 04:06 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 04:07 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Blacksheep at January 29, 2013 04:08 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 04:08 AM (FsUAO)
But but but "follow her dream!"
Yeah people are retarded and I think they think going to a 4 year party minimum is a birthright thing.
Lots of Soviet chicks have meaningless degrees too. When we were at Ft Bliss and I took up bagging as a side job I could do when wife was home with infant boy I met three Russian mail order brides. They had some interesting tales about "Life at the University of Moscow."
If anything it sounded more sane than life at University of Dayton but no more useful.
The cutest one admitted her economics degree was worthless because it was basically heh God I can still hear her too loud whisper "four year blowjob for Marx."
Of course Joke's on us I wonder is she meant "keynes?"
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:08 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 04:08 AM (9ScGj)
Yeah where?
Pointing out that Tard Akin said nothing in any way shape or form more onerous than Barack Obama said in open session of the IL hill is hardly "sticking up for Akin."
Akin is precisely the help we don't need, of course pro-choice GOPers may not be the help pro-lifers need either....
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:10 AM (LRFds)
I am still fighting this cold, so I am going back to bed.
Get well soon, Miss Marple. In case you feel ambitious (or have a sweetie who will do anything for you), here's a recipe for the chicken soup served in the MGM commissary (Louis B Mayer's favorite): take nine, fat, two-year old kosher hens for every three gallons of liquid, stewing them overnight, then separating the broth from the chicken. Add chunks of chicken and delicate matzoh balls. Serve and eat. Nom nom nom.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 29, 2013 04:11 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 04:11 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Golan Globus at January 29, 2013 04:11 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 04:12 AM (GVxQo)
I tried to keep busy as I could with work, study, and scouts and activities...kept me away from ground zero and drinking.
I did slapstick, and mimed a bit.....
we all have sinned and fallen short of the Ewok....
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:12 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 04:13 AM (JDIKC)
It's funny I used my knowledge of doing roughneck's taxes to map out for my father the way a company can break up into baby bells on their own to avoid the coming storm......
it was similar to your theory.
His Nurse wife was "huh?"
Ah stepmothers.....
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:14 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 04:14 AM (FsUAO)
Sooo, when gay marriage becomes law in all 50 states, how long will it
take for theToleranceCultiststo set there sites on Church's that won't
marry gays?? Some Church's still believe the Bible means what it says. I
denounce myself.
About 10 minutes.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 08:03 AM (8y9MW)
And in 20 minutes, look for the schism between the happy clappy, oh-so-faaabulous! "American Catholic Church" and the real Church.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 29, 2013 04:14 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 04:14 AM (3f/jH)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 04:15 AM (FsUAO)
Vic the only point I was making was uniformity of lockstep doctrine as word of law. There were older teachers from the WW2 and Tweener gen still teaching when I was a boy. I have not seen a lot of "rebels" in my travels with the wife and boy.
Sincerely nothing personal meant this time beyond "at some point they decided to go overt."
I suspect it was when they got away with their antics defending Billy Jeff in school and there was no blowback.
Lots of hands involved in the wreck that is education.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:16 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Icedog at January 29, 2013 04:17 AM (9ScGj)
If it is, then it is amnesty. If you look at the gang of idiots that held the secret negotiations you can bey when you get down t the bottom line, it is, in fact, amnesty.
And when it makes it through the "process" it will be even worse.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 04:17 AM (53z96)
If Education is a "Right" why does that "right" stop at 12th grade?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:18 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Golan Globus at January 29, 2013 04:18 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 29, 2013 04:19 AM (/zrB9)
Fuck all you people who continue to blame boomers for everythihig. Education and this country was destroyed long before the boomers got into power."
Well, maybe if you'd told Martin Van Buren to stop dicking around and actually set out a path to fiscal solvency, we'd be doing better. But no - Jenny Lind comes around swishing her skirts and you and Matty are off to the races. . .
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 29, 2013 04:19 AM (zF6Iw)
Yeah...the Anglican Church....dear lord. Wife and I had settled on "Episcopalian" as "in the middle" of Baptists and Catholic...then of course they decided to follow Mother England's version of "the San Francisco Diocese" and I just said "eh let's go to a few baptist flocks."
There is no group of three decision makers the rot will not infect and turn left.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:19 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Baracka Hussein at January 29, 2013 04:19 AM (FsUAO)
Oh it does NOT anymore believe me.
Of course in this case your "right" is to drain your family of a minimum of 5 figures in debt load and very possibly mid six figures.
If people understood how much the economy is really paying per student they'd shit a brick.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:21 AM (LRFds)
Yeah, well, IANAL. I'm not even an accountant, so I can only talk about it in the most abstract of terms. That said, I can't see a reason it wouldn't work. Even if they all had the same people sitting on their Boards of Directors, as long as those Boards were different entities on paper, then they'd be completely distinct companies, I'd think.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:21 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 04:21 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Blacksheep at January 29, 2013 04:22 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:23 AM (8y9MW)
He's not Catholic.
He's "culturally Catholic"
Occasionally known as "cafeteria Catholic"
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 04:23 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 29, 2013 04:24 AM (/zrB9)
I agree. You do recall I was way too generous with the Akin flamethrower yes? Burned a bridge with lowandslow I still regret.
Anyone who thinks I have lightly joined Vic on the Art V path....well I have not and the overtness of the bias the last 12-20 years is part of why I do not see a happy way out of this state of being and want separation.
They WANT to hamstring my bloodline's future "because."
Well I need more proof than Al Gore using shit on a cave wall to want economic liberty undone.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:24 AM (LRFds)
They are Democrats, otherwise know as communists and their enabling assholes who go along to get along in the Republican Party. IOW politicians.
Because we had 50 years of not dieing on ANY hill.
And guess what, they come in ALL age groups.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 04:25 AM (53z96)
Father Pfleger Catholics make me want to hurl. I thank God for my conservative priest every time I go to Mass.
And reverunhds such as Jacksuhn, the anit-gay nutsos (Westwood?), and Not-so-Sharpton send me into a rage. Those guys are not Christians by any measure.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 29, 2013 04:26 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 04:26 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 29, 2013 04:27 AM (2IgCi)
He's "culturally Catholic"
He hasn't been thrown out yet. Still has a parish.
http://saintsabina.org/Pastor-s-Corner/pastors-biography.html
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 04:28 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 29, 2013 04:28 AM (/zrB9)
Or follow my plan:
Step 1: Drop out of school because it's really freaking boring.
Step 2: Get a decent paying job (mine was about 9.50/hr) while you learn to program from friends who are professional developers.
Step 3: Step into professional development and quickly accelerate to the high five figures.
Yeah, it takes longer, but it really saves on student loans.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:28 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 04:28 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Tuna at January 29, 2013 04:29 AM (M/TDA)
Unless you're a genius with proven experience, "high" might be a stretch.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 04:30 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 04:30 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 08:28 AM (FsUAO)
Most places I knows of hiring engineering people "out the door" are only paying around 30K - 35K starting. As for computer science degrees I heard there was a real glut on those and they were lucky to find any job.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 04:31 AM (53z96)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 04:31 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 04:32 AM (FsUAO)
The problem again is we try to live up to the 'law." The right does not go passive-aggressive insurgent in thought enough. It is like the resistance to 1099ing everyone as a counter measure.
Your labor really is your own, and you can sell your services as low as you want via 1099.
The problem comes from the charming habit of the Feds then charging you self-employment tax loads.
I was a tax preparer not a CPA and although I know a lot of folks pay me as much mind as a used newspaper it doesn't bother me because I am in no way an "expert" on much of anything but 1990s standard Aviation focused hazmat work and even that is specialized mostly on DC-8 issues.
The thing is that the democrats are very unwieldy on precision in law writing nowadays, and they tend to get cute at blinding with high volume fire bullshit.
The shorter and more direct a law the easier it is to follow, and work around if need be but the fewer "regulators" you get to play with.
People would be scared if they understood how little "law" is really generated by their elected officials these days.
A politician would need 4500 pages on stop sign laws nowadays.
We are not a nation of laws we are a nation of lawyers.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:32 AM (LRFds)
Yep. STEM degrees are the way to go. Engineers make some serious coin, so do professional chemists (from 3M, to Big Pharma), and CS is a good one.
If you're going to get a degree, get a degree in one of those fields. If you absolutely must study "Musical Theater" or whatever- make that your minor.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:32 AM (8y9MW)
Not true in Dallas/Fort Worth. We simply can't find enough developers.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:33 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 04:33 AM (gKGI0)
Maybe it depends on the location. No way you're getting 70K with a BS and no experience around here.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 04:34 AM (hO8IJ)
Same-sex couples will be a part of the proposal for addressing immigration reform that President Obama is scheduled to unveil Tuesday in Las Vegas, BuzzFeed has confirmed with multiple sources familiar with the White House plan.
BuzzFeed has learned that three of the Democratic senators involved in the bipartisan framework reached out to LGBT advocates on Sunday to let them know in advance that same-sex couples' immigration issues would not be addressed in the Senate framework.
But you kids just wait till the bill comes out of conference and becomes a last minute must pass bill.....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2013 04:34 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 04:34 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 04:35 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 04:35 AM (gKGI0)
Wait! You mean my son's mad desire to go get a degree in Atlantean Applied Thermodynamic Engineering Theory Studies may *not* lead to a slew of job offers out the door? Damn it who lied to him and gave him that notion!?!?
Higher ed is mostly a racket. Yes HJ you are on the right path in higher ed right now but even CS and Eng jobs are not endless. Too many kids are given a very artificial stupid fostered notion that they are somehow divorced from the laws of supply and demand on their life's path.
Then in a display of brilliance these ill served kids wind up empowering the liar's political allies "for justice."
It's insane.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:37 AM (LRFds)
Meh. My first "professional" development gig only paid ~40K. I had no real experience on my resume (piece work at previous jobs) and no degree.
My second gig (after two years' professional experience) started me at 62.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:38 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 04:39 AM (FsUAO)
That's all true enough. Jimmy Johnson of football fame was a corporate psychologist, and I'd enjoy asking him about the psychology of sub 500 employee units. Altering the corporate flow chart would carry some impact on our business culture to be certain.
Of course so is predatory regulation taking an impact.
I think we're closer to Rentes era Court of Versailles Business psychology than we are Henry Ford's.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:40 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Golan Globus at January 29, 2013 04:41 AM (/1U3u)
Yeah more fun evidence of how much fun being a democrat must be.
Our coalition has several deep divides.
Theirs several hundred.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:42 AM (LRFds)
What makes it a problem are the sheer magnitude of the numbers of people born between 1946 and 1964. That is the issue. Political affiliation has absolutely nothing to do with it. Your post acknowledges that fact, and then acknowledges that your generation did nothing about it ("Because we had 50 years of not dieing on ANY hill.")
Here, check it out: http://tinyurl.com/be6aoll
BTW...NO generation is doing anything about it.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 04:45 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at January 29, 2013 04:45 AM (qFpRI)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 04:46 AM (hO8IJ)
99% of the damage was done in the 30s and then later in the 60s.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 04:46 AM (53z96)
LOL. That is true.
I have three of them, and but only one is on my resume.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 04:47 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 04:47 AM (fWAjv)
I don't know that I'd go as high as 99%.
But yeah, a lot of damage was done then. The human bow wave that is coming is going to take those mistakes from the 30s and 40s and swamp the boat.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 04:49 AM (sbV1u)
and I agree, my generation of would be conservative educators blinked.....
I am sincerely ashamed I left.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:49 AM (LRFds)
Yeah, why that hasn't happened yet I have no idea.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 04:51 AM (sbV1u)
Yup. Exactly. Tuition has rose faster than healthcare costs, one is a crisis requiring "you have to pass it to find out what's in it!" and can only be fixed by giving donks "make a wish super powers" and the other one just needs more money thrown at it!
No racket at all...
Teachers should make more than doctors!
and what blows my mind is doctors actually vote for these fucks.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:51 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 08:15 AM
And how, exactly, is that "defending "Akin?" Like Phoenix said, if all it took was Akin's comment from Octoberish to make someone change his mind in Freaking January, then that person wasn't pro-life to begin with.
Gabe's schtick is blaming conservative setbacks on the, as he puts it, "extreme right wing." Blaming Akin for a 24/7 liberal/media drumbeat about defining abortion as "women's rights" is extraordinarily facile.
So I'll spell it out....Akin said something dumb and his insisting upon staying in the race was even dumber. But unless Gabe wants to point out crosstabs in Rasmussen's poll where respondents said "yeah, I changed my mind because of Akin," blaming Akin is a gratuitous jab at a wing of the Republican party Gabe has a problem with.
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 29, 2013 04:55 AM (eytER)
Do you like quotes about gladiators, Icedog?
Posted by: captain oveur at January 29, 2013 04:59 AM (ORGYc)
Truman,
Here's a better plan that my son used:
Step 1) Forget about college.
Step 2) Obtain a number of Microsoft and Cisco certifications, start servicing small and medium sized businesses.
Step 3) Sell your small company to an expanding office information systems company for mid-six figures and accept the job of managing the new division for six figures plus bonuses based on profits.
Works every time.
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Rolling out boisterous scouts will only be half the problem apparently the progressives have won and Boy Scouts of America will admit gay scout masters.
What could go wrong?
Next up, Zombie John Wayne Gacy runs Boys' Town.
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Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 02:52 AM (53z96)