October 01, 2013
— Gabriel Malor October. Eesh.
Conservatives spent the past month claiming they didn't want a government shutdown, although you wouldn't know it to see their antics last night. Of course, these are the same folks who insist Obama should be blamed for the shutdown. They sure make it easy for the GOP to get blamed.
GOP congressfolk are bracing for shutdown fallout. Speaker Boehner has privately warned members that the House majority could be in peril.
Ironically, the Obamacare exchanges are launching despite the shutdown (just as Sen. Coburn said they would). What's more, if the government shutdown wasn't taking up all the space, the front page of every major daily in the country would have had an above-the-fold story on how the Obamacare exchanges aren't actually working as planned because of software and other tech problems.
So the score is: conservatives didn't manage to stop Obamacare. Conservatives are oddly celebrating a shutdown they claimed they did not want. The GOP is getting blamed. Oh, and how are voters looking at this? A new Quinnipiac poll out this morning finds voters opposed 72%–22% to Congress shutting down the fed govt to block implementation of Obamacare.
Brilliant work. And, of course, we still have the eventual GOP surrender to look forward to, wherein the ultimate pointlessness of this strategy is revealed for all to see.
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Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 01, 2013 02:55 AM (6J+oK)
Site is behaving erratic
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 02:55 AM (zZbNF)
http://tinyurl.com/p74y5lp
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 02:56 AM (zZbNF)
http://tinyurl.com/q8ztf9f
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 02:56 AM (zZbNF)
http://tinyurl.com/qgy9wv5
Why does this remind me of an anime? Perhaps Bubblegum Crisis 4: Revenge Road?
http://youtu.be/gL4pxh24TtA
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 02:56 AM (sSHNB)
http://tinyurl.com/np9z9nd
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 02:56 AM (zZbNF)
http://tinyurl.com/ohmwgct
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 02:57 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Andy at October 01, 2013 02:57 AM (0ZQCB)
Posted by: thunderb at October 01, 2013 02:57 AM (zOTsN)
http://tinyurl.com/npmgxr7
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 02:57 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 02:57 AM (WjLUf)
http://tinyurl.com/m9rt78z
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 02:57 AM (zZbNF)
(I tried to paste part of this ABC crap into here but the system locked up every time I tried. ABC uses some kind POS inserted cell for their news.)
http://tinyurl.com/llh2dxe
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 02:57 AM (zZbNF)
http://tinyurl.com/mvjmksa
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 02:58 AM (zZbNF)
http://tinyurl.com/pq6aneg
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 02:58 AM (zZbNF)
http://tinyurl.com/qgk83gv
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 02:58 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Juan de Hattatime at October 01, 2013 02:59 AM (p7LQY)
http://tinyurl.com/kuwhz4v
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 02:59 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 02:59 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 02:59 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 03:00 AM (zF6Iw)
Reps. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho, and Ted Poe, R-Texas, are working on a plan to create a visa program allowing more lower-skilled workers into the country.
Goodlatte and the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, Rep. Mike McCaul, R-Texas, hold out hopes for floor action by late October on a series of immigration bills that already have passed their committees.
"I would think that would be the next agenda item in the queue after we're done with this mess," McCaul said this past week, referring to bitter divisions over the health law, the level of government spending and the growing federal debt.
The attention of House GOP leaders seems certain to remain squarely focused on the fiscal disputes until they are resolved, leaving immigration on a back burner for some time to come. But lawmakers and outside advocates insist that three months after the Democratic-led Senate passed a sweeping immigration bill, the issue is showing signs of life in the Republican-run House
Posted by: thunderb at October 01, 2013 03:00 AM (zOTsN)
It may be in peril but it is not because of this phony shutdown. This is the same BS media generated hype they put out in the 96 shutdown that wasn't a shutdown. The MFM screamed and the public yawned.
The public really doesn't give a shit about this.
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 03:01 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 03:02 AM (sSHNB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:03 AM (WjLUf)
You need to look at more news outlets besides the alphabets which will never say anything against Obama anyway.
I have seen this said at several places over the past week or more.
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 03:03 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 01, 2013 03:03 AM (N/Sup)
Looks like you already surrendered.
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 03:04 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: thunderb at October 01, 2013 03:05 AM (zOTsN)
http://tinyurl.com/kpldq69
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 03:06 AM (sSHNB)
Posted by: thunderb at October 01, 2013 03:06 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 03:06 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: billygoat at October 01, 2013 03:07 AM (Bs/XF)
Posted by: redenzo at October 01, 2013 03:08 AM (vx61Q)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at October 01, 2013 03:08 AM (JpC1K)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:08 AM (WjLUf)
is this a carnival barker kind of thing, to get hits? and posts?
You would think that, but I'm told, by those who've listened to the podcasts, that when Gabe drops a bomb and is unable to leave, he gets his ass handed to him in short order. So I think he posts what he really believes and leaves those of us not attuned to the fine sensitivites of DC politics to engage in our cute, yet ultimately silly, squabbles.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 03:09 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Hilary's Squirrel Covers at October 01, 2013 03:10 AM (BnR4I)
Posted by: GD at October 01, 2013 03:10 AM (PlcKG)
I wonder if he's trying out for a gig at NBC News...or maybe there's a job coming up at Clownhall.com.
Whatever his true motives, he does a damn good job of acting as if those eeeeeeeevil Republicans shat in his cornflakes.
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 01, 2013 03:10 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 01, 2013 03:10 AM (6J+oK)
Posted by: redenzo at October 01, 2013 03:10 AM (vx61Q)
unbelievable
Posted by: thunderb at October 01, 2013 07:08 AM (zOTsN)
If people had any guts, they'd swarm the barricades. What are the cops going to do, shoot them? Arrest them all?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 03:10 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 01, 2013 03:10 AM (N/Sup)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:11 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 03:11 AM (sSHNB)
Is that your take? Srsly?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at October 01, 2013 03:11 AM (lAZep)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 03:11 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: thunderb at October 01, 2013 03:12 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Andy at October 01, 2013 03:13 AM (0ZQCB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:13 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: Mr Pink at October 01, 2013 07:12 AM (w1xc4)
I think Gabe secretly works for the RNC leadership.
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 03:13 AM (zZbNF)
Tungsten?!?! Pfffft.
DU, baby.
Fuck Gaia.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at October 01, 2013 03:13 AM (JpC1K)
Yeah, Gabe. This isn't the way we conservatives wanted it. We're smart. Not dumb like people say. We can handle things.
Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 03:14 AM (u2a4R)
Them: It won't pass the Senate. We'd have to shut down the government.
Us: Then shut down the government.
Them: We can't do that! It would be a disaster!!!
Us: Do it or you're fired.
Them: Ok, we'll shut down the government, right after we pass a bill that funds Obamacare. Deal?
Us: *facepalm*
Posted by: schizoid at October 01, 2013 03:14 AM (hfWLX)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 03:14 AM (sSHNB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:15 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 03:15 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: dogfish at October 01, 2013 03:15 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 03:16 AM (sSHNB)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz, now with popgun genitalia at October 01, 2013 03:16 AM (zX+Xl)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:16 AM (WjLUf)
Congratulations Gabe.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 01, 2013 03:16 AM (BeSEI)
Got an email from Honest John Tierney this morning. It read as if the ol' Gabearoo wrote it: he didn't walk out of the Benghazi hearing, he was busy with all sorts of non-stop legislative shit and the hearing was taking too long, both Republicans and Democrats left the room, we need to have better security for our diplomatic posts around the world, it's a shame teh Republicans politicized this tragedy, yadda yadda yadda.
Damn, it was noble of him to get this out before the shutdown. Dude really puts out for his constituents, doesn't he?
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 01, 2013 03:17 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: thunderb at October 01, 2013 03:17 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: dogfish at October 01, 2013 03:17 AM (nsOJa)
Those pesky conservatives, always taking away newspaper space from the REAL news they're just dying to print!
Posted by: BurtTC at October 01, 2013 03:18 AM (BeSEI)
Time to lay off Gabe, everybody, if you don't want a rash of bannings. You have been warned. Also? I agree with everything you've said. Now shut up.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 01, 2013 03:18 AM (JNUY4)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 03:18 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 03:19 AM (uKL8n)
Posted by: thunderb at October 01, 2013 03:19 AM (zOTsN)
up all the space, the front page of every major daily in
the country would have had an above-the-fold story on how
the Obamacare exchanges aren't actually working as
planned because of software and other tech problems."
Yeah right, that's exactly what the headlines would have been.
Malor, living in an alternate reality so you don't have to.
Posted by: lowandslow at October 01, 2013 03:19 AM (APJIX)
http://tinyurl.com/pkll3n7
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 03:20 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 01, 2013 03:20 AM (fzsoQ)
76 "jwest, the Granny Slayer and Communist Troll steps up and tells us again he is a Conservative. "
You don't recognize me as a conservative because I'm the most rare breed...
A smart conservative.
Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 03:21 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Mr Pink at October 01, 2013 03:21 AM (w1xc4)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at October 01, 2013 03:21 AM (CgVEi)
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 01, 2013 03:21 AM (6J+oK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:21 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 03:22 AM (uKL8n)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 03:22 AM (AO9UG)
Raised him right tho, said SID LIB.
Posted by: DishofRed at October 01, 2013 03:23 AM (Dmq63)
Either of you could be right. All we know at this point is he's not Little Orphan Annie.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 01, 2013 03:23 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:25 AM (WjLUf)
But the Obama clowns still got to fly all over the country and the world for vacations on the public dime.
Must be nice to have the MFM blowing you every day.
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 03:26 AM (zZbNF)
A smart conservative.
Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 07:21 AM (u2a4R)
Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.
Ever.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at October 01, 2013 03:26 AM (JpC1K)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 03:26 AM (sSHNB)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 01, 2013 03:26 AM (JNUY4)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:26 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 03:27 AM (zF6Iw)
Arrrrrrrggghhhhhh!!! The eyes! The eyes!
Make them go away!!
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at October 01, 2013 03:27 AM (JpC1K)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:27 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: Bob at October 01, 2013 03:27 AM (qTsuK)
Posted by: f2000 at October 01, 2013 03:27 AM (FcMtg)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at October 01, 2013 03:27 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 01, 2013 03:28 AM (m9V0o)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:28 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 03:29 AM (uKL8n)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at October 01, 2013 03:29 AM (d7H2D)
Posted by: Gran at October 01, 2013 03:29 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 01, 2013 03:29 AM (6J+oK)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 01, 2013 03:29 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at October 01, 2013 03:30 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: Mr Pink at October 01, 2013 03:30 AM (w1xc4)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 01, 2013 03:30 AM (uhAkr)
"What's more, if the government shutdown wasn't taking up all the space, the front page of every major daily in the country would have had an above-the-fold story on how the Obamacare exchanges aren't actually working as planned because of software and other tech problems."
How do you know this? If the press is so much in the pocket of the Democrats then they wouldn't have had these stories.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Get Your supplies for Opening Day of RINO Season here! at October 01, 2013 03:30 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: dogfish at October 01, 2013 03:30 AM (nsOJa)
The game will go on. The football team will travel, they are funded by the AOG. They just won't have their student support. Wish some big pocket patriot would fund a 737 to pick em all up....
/looks in checkbook---nope
Posted by: DishofRed at October 01, 2013 03:30 AM (Dmq63)
Posted by: Creams of my father at October 01, 2013 03:30 AM (hemD9)
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 01, 2013 03:31 AM (6J+oK)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at October 01, 2013 07:29 AM (d7H2D)
Except that they will still get paid just like last time. It was a paid vacation.
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 03:31 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Chris at October 01, 2013 03:31 AM (aBOfW)
Posted by: toby928© at October 01, 2013 03:31 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 03:31 AM (Ohct+)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 03:31 AM (sSHNB)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at October 01, 2013 03:32 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2013 03:32 AM (4+AaH)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:33 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 03:33 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 03:33 AM (AO9UG)
You'll be captivated! Why, he even included his Official Public Statement about the non-event!
I feel so, you know, honored that he "noted my concern" and urged me to contact him if I have any other questions. It's kind of heartwarming that such an important man still pays attention to the Little People.
Isn't it?
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 01, 2013 03:33 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: Pforeman at October 01, 2013 03:34 AM (G/OAv)
Posted by: dogfish at October 01, 2013 03:34 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 03:34 AM (uKL8n)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 03:35 AM (Ohct+)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:35 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 03:35 AM (uKL8n)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 01, 2013 03:36 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 01, 2013 03:36 AM (6J+oK)
Posted by: toby928� at October 01, 2013 07:31 AM (QupBk)
Not true, one of those articles I linked to this morning said that because they went ahead and paid everyone, plus paid overtime for the people who took the place of the people that were sent home, it wound up costing the government even more by the time it was over.
So the shutdown and layoff added to the debt. The only way it would actually save money was if it was a "real shutdown" that effected EVERY department that was not national security and they did not pay anyone.
IOW, shutdown EPA, DOJ, IRS, HUD, etc.
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 03:37 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 01, 2013 03:37 AM (Agn5J)
Posted by: X at October 01, 2013 03:37 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 03:37 AM (Ohct+)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 07:28 AM (WjLUf)
There was. Truly a stinker. If I can get off my fat, lazy ass, I'll write about it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 03:37 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 03:38 AM (uKL8n)
Posted by: Boone at October 01, 2013 03:38 AM (tIyK2)
Posted by: Pforeman at October 01, 2013 03:38 AM (G/OAv)
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 01, 2013 03:38 AM (yFM0T)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:38 AM (WjLUf)
Somehow during the death and destruction of the Government's Apocalyptic Shutdown, the Panda Cam bravely soldiers on.
http://tinyurl.com/mt7f9u8
Posted by: rd at October 01, 2013 03:38 AM (D+lxs)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 03:39 AM (sSHNB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2013 03:39 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 03:39 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 06:53 AM
Gabe , what proof do you have they would report anything negative about Obama?
Does Benghazi ring a bell?
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 01, 2013 03:39 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 03:39 AM (uKL8n)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 03:40 AM (uKL8n)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 01, 2013 03:41 AM (yJV4S)
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 01, 2013 03:41 AM (6J+oK)
You want to know why this seems so shocking and appalling and horrifying and beyond the pale? Because we have moved so far beyond an semblance of operating the Federal government according to actual Constitutional principles that when it does happen it seems EXTREMMEEE!!!11!!!.
This is how it's supposed to work. This is why the power of the purse exists in the first place. This is why there are separate bodies of government and checks and balances. The Constitution was designed to make sure that there can be those standing athwart yelling halt. In those instances where one Congress has rammed something through, the next Congress can say "Yeah, about that. Nice law and all but you can't have any money to implement it." It's about giving citizens, who, after all, are the ones whose wishes are supposed to be represented, a chance to step in and vote in those who will do their level best to get rid of whatever it was.
So, no, I'm not too appalled by this. This is how it's supposed to be. Fine, it's not the tactic you would have chosen. Okay. Well, this is where we are. If I've had to suck it up and vote for McCain and then Romney because of the Good of The Party, then those who oppose this need to suck it up and stop whinging about how this isn't the tactic they would have chosen. Yes, yes, you've made that clear. Now stfu and stfu and rally behind what the Party, that you claim is ever so important and vital to the promotion of conservative ideas, is doing. If not? Well, do not say one single solitary word to me again, ever in the history of ever, about how solemn duty compels that I vote for anyone with an (R) behind that person's name.
Now, while we're at it, can the Senate get around to that whole passing a budget thing? That would be aces.
Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 01, 2013 03:41 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2013 03:41 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 01, 2013 03:41 AM (paOCA)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 03:41 AM (Ohct+)
"Does Benghazi ring a bell?"
The national press would have covered Benghazi extensively if Burger King hadn't come out with those new fries.
There's only so much space and resources to cover the important stories.
Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 03:42 AM (u2a4R)
::: golf clap :::
::: slides lemon squares :::
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at October 01, 2013 03:43 AM (JpC1K)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 03:43 AM (Ohct+)
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 03:43 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 01, 2013 07:36 AM (IXrOn)
Absolutely. And part of getting past the MFM is to put a chokehold on the natural human tendency to be liked. For example, Senator Poppins may swap a drink or two with Stephanopoulos, but when (as in the Barky / Romney debate), he brings up a question out of left field, he should fire back on all cylinders - "who the hell paid you to ask that, George? The question has nothing to do with what we're discussing tonight. If you want to pretend you're a journalist, then let my opponent answer. I'll be here when you ask me a question that hasn't been vetted by the DNC."
Too many of the GOP want to be liked, rather than stand up for themselves. We know CNN is biased, so why treat them as an honest news organization? Get in their faces at every opportunity, and maybe one or two members of the Borg who haven't been totally assimilated will start to act like real reporters instead of Barky's fluffers.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 03:44 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: SAT Verbal at October 01, 2013 03:44 AM (hPKOo)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 01, 2013 07:41 AM (yJV4S)
The way Gabe avoids facts make him trollish.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 01, 2013 03:44 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 03:44 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 01, 2013 03:45 AM (6J+oK)
Posted by: Reactionary at October 01, 2013 03:45 AM (pQ4u3)
Posted by: Czar Peter at October 01, 2013 03:46 AM (CXr4y)
If I've had to suck it up and vote for McCain and then Romney because of the Good of The Party, then those who oppose this need to suck it up and stop whinging about how this isn't the tactic they would have chosen. Yes, yes, you've made that clear. Now stfu and stfu and rally behind what the Party, that you claim is ever so important and vital to the promotion of conservative ideas, is doing. If not? Well, do not say one single solitary word to me again, ever in the history of ever, about how solemn duty compels that I vote for anyone with an (R) behind that person's name.
This is why I pledge my life, fortune and sacred honor to Her Imperial Majesty.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 03:46 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 03:46 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: DangerGirl at October 01, 2013 03:46 AM (zEeUf)
From what I read and some of the stuff I linked to congress and the WH were exempted from sending home any aids at all. And I think the WH has > 1000 people working as aids under the executive branch.
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 03:47 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 03:48 AM (AO9UG)
Gabe's post is more suited for NRO than AoS.
If Gabe was a commenter and not a poster, he would be dismissed as a troll.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at October 01, 2013 03:48 AM (d2CZd)
Funny that, three years and not a single budget ever passed out of the Senate. The Senate controlled by Harry Reid. And in direct violation of the Constitution. Speaking of someone who needs to be put into the stockades and pelted by rotten tomatoes, Harry Reid is the poster boy.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 03:48 AM (sSHNB)
Posted by: Countrysquire at October 01, 2013 03:49 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: @JohnTant at October 01, 2013 03:49 AM (F3IIA)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2013 03:49 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: mindful webworker and his humble opinion at October 01, 2013 03:49 AM (CQzvT)
We used to have "troll busters" who could not ban people but who could edit comments to delete offensive stuff. What ever happened to that concept?
There were cutbacks due to the sequester and the shutdown.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 01, 2013 03:49 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:50 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: redenzo at October 01, 2013 03:51 AM (vx61Q)
Shutdown accomplished, now congress needs to adjourn for several months.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget[/i] at October 01, 2013 03:51 AM (epxV4)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 01, 2013 03:51 AM (N/Sup)
BULLSHIT.
What's more, Byron York still didn't write the article you claimed he did in yesterday's edition of "why my readers are stupid jerks." And you still haven't corrected the claim.
Posted by: Troll Feeder at October 01, 2013 03:51 AM (mxtLd)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at October 01, 2013 03:52 AM (d7H2D)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:52 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 03:52 AM (kQlQo)
Posted by: @JohnTant at October 01, 2013 03:53 AM (F3IIA)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 03:53 AM (sSHNB)
Posted by: Vlad the Putin at October 01, 2013 03:53 AM (1ThpN)
Posted by: Edward Cropper at October 01, 2013 03:54 AM (Gj1g/)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 03:54 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 03:55 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 01, 2013 03:55 AM (paOCA)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 03:56 AM (kQlQo)
As I said earlier, Congress and the WH are exempted.
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 03:56 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Sid Vicious at October 01, 2013 03:56 AM (xYNyF)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 01, 2013 03:56 AM (U2UQk)
Then they were going to shutdown.
You know what it reminds me of? The Israeli/Palestinian "negotiation" where the Israelis were willing to give up the West Bank, settlements, etc... only to have Arafat say at the last minute "nope, we prefer to continue to live in squalor, send suicide bombers into your malls and buses."
I'm not calling the Dems terrorists. Their tactics are different, but their strategy is essentially the same.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 01, 2013 03:57 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: kreplach at October 01, 2013 03:57 AM (S8y+1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2013 03:57 AM (1RQeV)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 03:57 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 03:58 AM (sSHNB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2013 03:59 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 03:59 AM (Ohct+)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 03:59 AM (kQlQo)
How's it odd? Gabe loooves him some sweet sweet pederast.
Posted by: GMan at October 01, 2013 03:59 AM (sxq57)
It is a not uncommon budget tactic.
Posted by: Typo Dynamofo at October 01, 2013 03:59 AM (URNUb)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 03:59 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 01, 2013 04:00 AM (paOCA)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 04:00 AM (WjLUf)
I'm still waiting to see some issue on which he says something vaguely conservative-ish.
Hasn't happened yet.
Posted by: Phinn at October 01, 2013 04:00 AM (oFH2D)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 04:00 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Boone at October 01, 2013 04:00 AM (tIyK2)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 01, 2013 04:01 AM (paOCA)
Posted by: Countrysquire at October 01, 2013 04:01 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 01, 2013 04:02 AM (6J+oK)
I disagree. One way of trolling is to go to a website, take a survey of the tone and the style, then toss whatever you think is going to cause the most stir among the regulars.
You don't have to be in complete disagreement with everybody to do that. It starts with that inner desire to cause trouble, then it takes whatever direction the troll needs it to take.
We have one here in the comments section already today. There will be others who show up later. You know who they are.
Don't call them trolls if you don't like the term, but that's what they are.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 01, 2013 04:03 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Typo Dynamofo at October 01, 2013 04:04 AM (URNUb)
Phew!
That was a close one.
Good thing we didn't try defund. That sucker would've produced a shutdown for sure.
Then where would we have been?
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 08:00 AM (AO9UG)
It's worse than that. The last CR only delays the individual mandate. I don't know why they don't just pass a clean CR since they've already caved on everything that matters.
Posted by: schizoid at October 01, 2013 04:04 AM (hfWLX)
Sheesh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 08:00 AM (WjLUf)
and senate...
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 01, 2013 08:02 AM (6J+oK)
And, the longest of those shutdowns was a fight over funding for abortions.
There were Dems who refused to have the federal gov't pay for abortions, and were willing to go to a shutdown over it.
Times have changed.
Posted by: Phinn at October 01, 2013 04:04 AM (oFH2D)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 04:04 AM (Ohct+)
Posted by: Bigby's Clappy Hands at October 01, 2013 04:04 AM (3ZtZW)
Malor identifies with surrender. That, and no hill worth dying on, hence no fight worth fighting. To the obligatory rabbit hole!
I don't know that I'd go that far. I do think he identifies with the "nothing is worth bad optics" crowd (of which we have a few members among the Horde), which fears that the LIVs and independents can't see beyond their own parochial interests to understand the good in any particular conservative strategy.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 04:04 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 01, 2013 04:04 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 01, 2013 04:05 AM (zzcxZ)
Posted by: mindful webworker and the repeating meme at October 01, 2013 04:05 AM (VyRoX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2013 04:05 AM (a4Omg)
If I wanted to see a whiny RINO complain about other Republicans I would tune in to Meghan McCain's new show.
Posted by: Lucky Pierre at October 01, 2013 04:05 AM (5fSr7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2013 04:06 AM (1RQeV)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 04:06 AM (kQlQo)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 04:06 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2013 04:06 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Todd W at October 01, 2013 04:06 AM (tjj0w)
Fine, it's not the tactic you would have chosen. Okay. Well, this is where we are. If I've had to suck it up and vote for McCain and then Romney because of the Good of The Party, then those who oppose this need to suck it up and stop whinging about how this isn't the tactic they would have chosen. Yes, yes, you've made that clear. Now stfu and stfu and rally behind what the Party, that you claim is ever so important and vital to the promotion of conservative ideas, is doing. If not? Well, do not say one single solitary word to me again, ever in the history of ever, about how solemn duty compels that I vote for anyone with an (R) behind that person's name.
I am sick and tired of the "Moderate" GOP telling me I need to compromise, I need to get with the program. Do what you say!!!
Remember Moderate Dick Lugar? He lost a primary in Indiana and shit all over the nominee?
How about McCain? He cannot find enough Network time to castigate the conservatives and suck up to the Democrats. The only reason I think he is still Republican is that Jimmy Jeffords turned traitor first in 2002.
Who sent the oppo research on Cruz to the networks. Which Republican?
I'd rather deal with Democrats, at least they are honest in their hatred of conservatives.
Posted by: rd at October 01, 2013 04:07 AM (D+lxs)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 01, 2013 04:08 AM (paOCA)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 04:08 AM (AO9UG)
But the conservatives are spiteful children having a tantrum.
Posted by: Typo Dynamofo at October 01, 2013 04:08 AM (URNUb)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2013 04:09 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2013 04:09 AM (1RQeV)
To Gabe...nothing...he's a thinker, long term player...results...SQUAT
Posted by: Getonwithit at October 01, 2013 04:09 AM (MbeEN)
Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at October 01, 2013 04:09 AM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2013 08:09 AM (1RQeV)
I am indeed.
Again.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at October 01, 2013 04:10 AM (JpC1K)
Posted by: Boone at October 01, 2013 08:00 AM (tIyK2)
"WE'RE TRYING TO ESCAPE !! WE'RE TRYING TO ESCAPE!!"
"SEE I TOLD YOOOUUUU , IT FAILED!!"
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 01, 2013 04:11 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 04:11 AM (Ohct+)
Posted by: mugiwara at October 01, 2013 04:11 AM (hPKOo)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 04:11 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 01, 2013 04:12 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2013 04:12 AM (1RQeV)
How many people did they lay off because of barricading the memorial? How many people did it take above normal to barricade the memorial?
Like I said, same thing as sequester. Spend extra money to make it look bad. That is what you get when you have SOBs running the government.
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 04:14 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 01, 2013 04:14 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 04:14 AM (kQlQo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2013 04:14 AM (1RQeV)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 04:14 AM (MhA4j)
Greetings and salutations, Horde-like people.
How great it is to be greeted by Our Empress's Thoughts first thing in the morning instead of a screwing by the Dims in DC.
Thank you, My Queen.
SNAFU.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 01, 2013 04:14 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 04:15 AM (AO9UG)
Again.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 01, 2013 08:10 AM (JpC1K)
Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I know a lot of innocent people still get hurt by this. Hang in there. I am sure this will not last long, for better or for worse. I doubt it lasts more than a few days.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2013 08:12 AM (1RQeV)
You are getting a paid vacation so how is that "hurting you"?
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 04:15 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2013 08:12 AM (1RQeV)
Told the boss last night I am done.
Got multiple resumes out. I've had it with being jerked around by the Searchlight Strangler and crew - and I at least work for a Constitutionally mandated arm of the Executive Branch.
The perverse result of this is that all the good people who can actually do something else are heading for the door and have been for about a year now. So, if you hate government now, imagine what it's going to be like 2-3 years from now when the only people who are left are the ones who are too stupid to do something in the real world.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at October 01, 2013 04:16 AM (JpC1K)
Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 04:16 AM (z4WKX)
Hey Gabe.. who the fuck gets their opinions of what's going on in the world from tweets? You? Pathetic.
While I wasn't a big fan of this defund tactic, the shutdown is here.. enjoy it! It will be hilarious to see the media spin this...
And it will also be hilarious when Obama, in a few days or even a week, sits down with Boehner and says straight-faced to the cameras, "As I always have said right from the beginning, I am here willing to negotiate in good faith. "
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 01, 2013 04:16 AM (AYOav)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 04:16 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 08:04 AM
Hey, it works like a friggin' charm for Poppin' Fresh!
Step One: Link to what some other Pundits writes;
Step Two: Add a huge dose of "fairness," mixed with plenty o' reach-across-the-aisle;
Step Three: profit!!11!!eleventy!!
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 01, 2013 04:17 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 04:17 AM (sSHNB)
I am indeed.
Again.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 01, 2013 08:10 AM (JpC1K)
Not to pick at the wound, but how does the Fed employee pay work?
When MN had a s/d, the state employees were all paid for the work they missed, after the budget was funded. Will the Fed employees be paid after the CR goes through? What about contract employees?
Posted by: rd at October 01, 2013 04:17 AM (D+lxs)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 01, 2013 08:10 AM (JpC1K)
Though I am mere contractor swine, after the 4 hours allowed this morning I am furloughed as well. And unlike the .gov personnel, I won't be getting back pay when this is settled.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at October 01, 2013 04:17 AM (ial2b)
Posted by: SangreTheBold at October 01, 2013 04:18 AM (GhkQ9)
Posted by: packsoldier at October 01, 2013 04:18 AM (r2lch)
Posted by: @JohnTant at October 01, 2013 04:19 AM (F3IIA)
Not to worry, this is a big nothingburger.
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 04:19 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 01, 2013 04:19 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 01, 2013 04:19 AM (6J+oK)
Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at October 01, 2013 04:19 AM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 01, 2013 04:19 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2013 04:20 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 01, 2013 04:20 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 01, 2013 04:20 AM (bZKG0)
Posted by: rd at October 01, 2013 08:17 AM (D+lxs)
That's not a guarantee. They did it in 1995, but the word around here is that it's less likely this time. No one really knows.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at October 01, 2013 04:20 AM (JpC1K)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 01, 2013 08:16 AM
Will this be before or after Teh Boner hits the golf links with Choom Boy and promises him full funding for ChoomCare, open borders and a nice new aid package for our new BFFs in Iran?
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 01, 2013 04:21 AM (kaGpp)
When MN had a s/d, the state employees were all paid for the work they missed, after the budget was funded. Will the Fed employees be paid after the CR goes through? What about contract employees?
Posted by: rd at October 01, 2013 08:17 AM (D+lxs)
They were all paid after the budget was approved during the last S/D. It was late, but they were paid even though they did not work.
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 04:21 AM (zZbNF)
Film historian Leonard Maltin quipped that that silly, sappy low-budget film was the reason why Janssen became a fugitive. It also had one of the worst performances by a child actor ever.
Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at October 01, 2013 04:21 AM (ag5wD)
Posted by: SangreTheBold at October 01, 2013 04:22 AM (GhkQ9)
https://twitter.com/CongHuelskamp/status/384894011040727040/photo/1
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 04:22 AM (sSHNB)
Posted by: blindside at October 01, 2013 04:22 AM (WzWmY)
1. Starting position: Defund ACA.
2. Fine, we'll just delay it till we can figure out how to make it work right.
3. Ok, whatever. If you still won't talk, let's at least say that Congress is subject to the ACA.
4. What? You won't even give us THAT? Fine, then let's at least not raise prices on hearing aids and pacemakers.
5. Seriously, you want poor people to pay MORE for medical devices? Ok, uh, can we have a week to come up with new terms?
6. Really -- you won't even do that? I give up. Fine. You win: Shut it down.
Posted by: Matt S. at October 01, 2013 04:22 AM (PDTch)
Posted by: MrScribbler
...........
Hey! Gimme at least one day of fantasizing, ok?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 01, 2013 04:22 AM (AYOav)
Posted by: RiverC at October 01, 2013 04:23 AM (9hUiB)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 01, 2013 04:23 AM (sFQyf)
>>>The Park Service has placed barriers around the WWII Memorial on the scheduled arrival day of an honor flight.
A senator or rep who wanted good optics would march down there and demand the Park Service remove the barriers. If they refuse, lead the vets past them. "These men are American heroes. This memorial belongs to all Americans. I refuse to let them be stopped because of Obama's temper tantrum."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 04:24 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 04:24 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 01, 2013 04:24 AM (659DL)
Yes, their 'negotiation' is 'all of what we want and none of what you want.'
And they think that's going to fly at all?
The GOP should say okay, fine. So instead our baseline is Repeal Obamacare. So let's work from there. Plus we shut everything down... so maybe you can work us back from that position, dunno -- let's see how you do!
Posted by: RiverC at October 01, 2013 04:25 AM (9hUiB)
Posted by: blindside at October 01, 2013 04:25 AM (WzWmY)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 04:25 AM (sSHNB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 04:25 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 04:25 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Insomniac in Sturgis at October 01, 2013 04:26 AM (cgflK)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 01, 2013 04:26 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: Beagle at October 01, 2013 04:26 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 04:26 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2013 04:26 AM (WjLUf)
Posted by: Joe Sequestor thinks he's all that at October 01, 2013 04:26 AM (bUmSq)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 04:26 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Elize Nayden at October 01, 2013 04:27 AM (SeKJY)
Posted by: Annie M. Lowrey, who actually likes Ezra Klein's diseased member at October 01, 2013 04:27 AM (Q9qpj)
I can't understand trading off unlimited license to do whatever you want in the bedroom for total enslavement everywhere else.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at October 01, 2013 04:27 AM (QXlbZ)
I know, right
1. Democrats are not doing well in polls (i.e they have a 'slight' lead or some such in three-letter-word media polls which means they're probably behind)
2. Ted Cruz and the Republicans showing spine has and will fire up the base
3. Obama and Reid would not negotiate, this is clear and unambiguous and can be 'sold' to the base without much work
I mean, I guess what Gabe wants is to MASTERMIND the whole thing, you know, to have a stratergy that is the smarts, that impresses the intelligent and woos the stupid... but let's face it, politics is mostly just opportunism.
Statecraft is fifty percent chutzpa or more.
Posted by: RiverC at October 01, 2013 04:28 AM (9hUiB)
Bannion,
Sorry to hear about that.
The wife is exempted, of course she won't be getting paid until some other date (and our mini-vacation scheduled in 8 days is now in peril as you're apparently not allowed to take time off during a shutdown.)
Nevertheless, I think something dramatic had to happen to swing the balance of power one way or another in Washington. To be honest, we couldn't persist much longer like this. This may be sufficient to either give us back the senate or we'll lose control of the house. Either one radically changes the power makeup and chooses the path forward. (Unlike the last election which was "status quo".)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 01, 2013 04:28 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at October 01, 2013 04:28 AM (QXlbZ)
Statecraft is fifty percent chutzpa or more.
Posted by: RiverC at October 01, 2013 08:28 AM (9hUiB)
AKA - The next hill, next year.
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 01, 2013 04:29 AM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 01, 2013 04:29 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 04:30 AM (kblpk)
Posted by: Dogbert at October 01, 2013 04:30 AM (F1lOF)
Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 01, 2013 04:30 AM (fzsoQ)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 04:30 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 04:30 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at October 01, 2013 04:31 AM (xhr2b)
This is the internecine warfare that will complete the destruction of the Republican party.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 01, 2013 04:31 AM (/kU/5)
Vic hates Disney? There's gotta be something Vic and me agree on. I just gotta think there is something out there. *scratches head* Um...I'm guessing we both agree Obama sucks. So there's that.
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at October 01, 2013 04:32 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 04:33 AM (zF6Iw)
Yeah...that was his mask coming off. He is a cranky old fart
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 01, 2013 04:33 AM (/kU/5)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 04:33 AM (kblpk)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 04:33 AM (AO9UG)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUiJ1f2Cg3U
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 08:33 AM (zF6Iw)
I find his stances a little squishy, I'll stick with stalewart Ham Sandwich.
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 01, 2013 04:34 AM (FIDMq)
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at October 01, 2013 04:35 AM (yAor6)
I figured this about Vic years ago.
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at October 01, 2013 04:35 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 04:35 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at October 01, 2013 04:35 AM (Ud5vq)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at October 01, 2013 04:35 AM (QXlbZ)
Hey Gabe.. who the fuck gets their opinions of what's going on in the world from tweets? You? Pathetic.
While I wasn't a big fan of this defund tactic, the shutdown is here.. enjoy it! It will be hilarious to see the media spin this...
And it will also be hilarious when Obama, in a few days or even a week, sits down with Boehner and says straight-faced to the cameras, "As I always have said right from the beginning, I am here willing to negotiate in good faith. "
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 01, 2013 08:16 AM (AYOav)
Except didn't the house cave and send them their delay option? The option that Gabe swore was the correct path. That would have avoided the government shutdown according to him.
Posted by: buzzion at October 01, 2013 04:35 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: T. at October 01, 2013 04:36 AM (vDd63)
Posted by: gwelf at October 01, 2013 04:37 AM (wPzc5)
followed by a long essay on why he thinks there is a disagreement and making analogies to B Hollywood movies
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at October 01, 2013 04:37 AM (yAor6)
Vic hates Disney?
You should have seen the telegram he sent Walt after Steamboat Mickey came out.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 04:37 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Fritz at October 01, 2013 08:36 AM (UzPAd)
They learned it from us......
Posted by: The Jews at October 01, 2013 04:37 AM (/kU/5)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at October 01, 2013 04:37 AM (Ud5vq)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 01, 2013 04:37 AM (JNUY4)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at October 01, 2013 04:38 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 04:38 AM (kblpk)
There is so much stupidity and a lack of objectivity in your post it's hard to fathom.
I mean- your sources are Politico and other Democrat scribes?
This government under Obama and Reid has done zero to help people since they've been in office. Do you really think folks care if it shuts down? What the hell are they doing anyway?
Yes, I can see all the protest over a lack of park access and stuff like that.
Why don't you do the heavy lifting and tell me exactly who in the House this imperils?
And this doesn't take Obamacare off the front page. It puts it front and center as the primary issue for the shutdown as people are getting their dicks slammed in a car door by it.
In the future, you should name this post the Daily Pablum.
Posted by: Marcus at October 01, 2013 04:38 AM (GGCsk)
"Avoids"?
Is that what we're calling pharmaceuticals-and-Val-U-Rite hangovers now?
Posted by: Phinn at October 01, 2013 04:39 AM (oFH2D)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 01, 2013 04:39 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at October 01, 2013 04:39 AM (JQuNB)
Posted by: X at October 01, 2013 04:39 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: packsoldier at October 01, 2013 04:39 AM (r2lch)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 04:39 AM (MhA4j)
Doubtful. When the country's credit got downgraded the country blamed Obama and his approvals were even lower they they are now. 1 year later he had comeback to 50% in his job rating and used massive turnout targeting and cutting into his deficit with independents to win a close re-election. This will be a short term story. 2014 is way off. How this effects the VA Gov race though is a valid worry.
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at October 01, 2013 04:39 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Reactionary at October 01, 2013 04:39 AM (pQ4u3)
I have a skylight to replace, but I might hold off. Gravity could go out any minute.
Yeah, I don't expect the Sun to stay on much longer either. The wind is already calm down here.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 01, 2013 04:39 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 04:40 AM (kblpk)
I just wandered into the Pit of Hate (a.k.a. DU).
I need HAZMAT and DECON STAT!
What a bunch of twisted, self-loathing, panic-ninnys. You'd think we had camps bordered with 20 foot fences topped with razor wire devoted to ripping out uteruses (uteri?) and were murdering children by the truckload all while chewing tobacco and drooling on ourselves.
A more hateful group, I've never seen. These assholes literally fantasize about killing you, tea party member. Probably rub one out to the idea.
Note to self: 'em fuckers ain't harmless. Watch them closely.
Posted by: Tangonine at October 01, 2013 04:40 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at October 01, 2013 04:40 AM (Ud5vq)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Christian-Schloe-art-17.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 04:40 AM (sSHNB)
Posted by: stone cutters at October 01, 2013 04:41 AM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: Jaws at October 01, 2013 04:41 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 01, 2013 08:25 AM (sSHNB)
Because George Lucas sucks and is incapable of coming up with a way to keep the ambiguity of who Darth Vader is. All you need is another Apprentice for Kenobi to fall to the darkside.
Posted by: buzzion at October 01, 2013 04:41 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: packsoldier at October 01, 2013 08:39 AM (r2lch)
It's why I bought stock in Purina.
Winning!
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at October 01, 2013 04:41 AM (JpC1K)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 01, 2013 04:41 AM (659DL)
It's amazing how much power they wield. From the shadows.
Posted by: Fritz at October 01, 2013 08:36 AM (UzPAd)
They learned it from us......
Posted by: The Jews at October 01, 2013 08:37 AM (/kU/5)
Pikers.
Posted by: The Freemasons at October 01, 2013 04:41 AM (zF6Iw)
Question: Did the shutdown apply to the guy who sends out the office e-mail alerts to tell everyone about the shutdown???
It's like a Mobius strip that's wrapped in a Zen koan and smothered in paradox.
Posted by: Phinn at October 01, 2013 04:41 AM (oFH2D)
Posted by: Tangonine at October 01, 2013 08:40 AM (x3YFz)
They can't shoot worth a damn. That's our advantage.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 01, 2013 04:42 AM (/kU/5)
-- I live in VA and look at the NOVA Reddit. Honestly, I think the VA governor race has been lost for awhile. Terry McAuliffe is a terrible candidate and would make a terrible governor. But, he's probably going to win if the vast corruption surrounding him doesn't get out to likely voters.
Posted by: Matt S. at October 01, 2013 04:42 AM (PDTch)
Oh wait. Those are facts. Sorry.
Posted by: Marcus at October 01, 2013 04:42 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 04:42 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Mainah at October 01, 2013 04:43 AM (659DL)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 04:43 AM (kblpk)
A year from now, is anyone even going to remember the shutdown?
Nope. Everybody's already forgotten the credit downgrade that was going to ruin us in August 2011.
Doesn't look like such a bad idea to do a shutdown back then, does it?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 01, 2013 04:43 AM (TpXEI)
Alex the chick's rant should be bumped up to "below the fold"
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at October 01, 2013 08:31 AM (xhr2b)
To be honest, that should be standard operating procedure for just about every AtC rant.
So, no, I'm not too appalled by this. This is how it's supposed to be. Fine, it's not the tactic you would have chosen. Okay. Well, this is where we are. If I've had to suck it up and vote for McCain and then Romney because of the Good of The Party, then those who oppose this need to suck it up and stop whinging about how this isn't the tactic they would have chosen. Yes, yes, you've made that clear. Now stfu and stfu and rally behind what the Party, that you claim is ever so important and vital to the promotion of conservative ideas, is doing. If not? Well, do not say one single solitary word to me again, ever in the history of ever, about how solemn duty compels that I vote for anyone with an (R) behind that person's name.
Oh my queen. My girlcrush on you knows no bounds. May I be you when I grow up? Because I want to be AWESOME.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 04:44 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 01, 2013 04:44 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 01, 2013 04:45 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Rich K at October 01, 2013 04:45 AM (X4l3T)
The way forward is obvious. The president made another redline statement yesterday when he claimed that the VA would be shut down, this agency would be out, that agency would be out, so what the House should do is just pass a clean funding bill for each agency that he mentioned, send each individual bill on to the Senate, and then scream from the rooftops that the funding bills are awaiting approval from the Democratic Senate and the Democratic president.
It would also be worth pointing out that the president is willing to sit down and discuss/compromise with the terrorist state of Iran but won't sit down and talk to his own fellow Americans.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 01, 2013 04:46 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: Mainah at October 01, 2013 08:43 AM (659DL)
All the employees being sent home, knowing that when the crying drunk snivelling coward Boehner caves they will have gotten time off and been paid for it as well.
Posted by: buzzion at October 01, 2013 04:46 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Baldy at October 01, 2013 04:46 AM (tyDFN)
Once I find it, I can go back to reading the headlines about Benghazi.
Those were the good old days....remember the MSM constantly bashing Obama and demanding answers on the front page?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 01, 2013 04:46 AM (xdC/M)
Posted by: Tangonine at October 01, 2013 08:40 AM (x3YFz)
"They can't shoot worth a damn. That's our advantage."
Maybe, but we're less likely to feel the desire to demonstrate our marksmanship . Morality and all that junk. As a result, the fight's a toss-up.
Posted by: Jaws at October 01, 2013 04:46 AM (4I3Uo)
It's amazing how much power they wield. From the shadows.
Posted by: Fritz at October 01, 2013 08:36 AM (UzPAd)
They learned it from us......
Posted by: The Jews at October 01, 2013 08:37 AM (/kU/5)
Pikers.
Posted by: The Freemasons at October 01, 2013 08:41 AM (zF6Iw)
"Upstarts."
-The Illuminati
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 04:47 AM (4df7R)
--
It doesn't load on my end. I'm getting a doooom! message. But above the video, it said sponsored by The Ford Motor Company Fund. So why is it not functioning?
Posted by: Lady in Black, why am I awake at this hour?! at October 01, 2013 04:47 AM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2013 04:48 AM (a4Omg)
More like that asshole Bollings. McDonell for all his issues still has positive approvals and beats McAwful in hypothetical polling. Bollings and his sore loserism is the real issue. The VA GOP should rip away his status as a Republican if given the chance. No excuse for him to act like he's been acting. No doubt in my mind he votes Democrat in this race.
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at October 01, 2013 04:48 AM (yAor6)
As for the polls, let's see what they say in a few days when planes aren't falling out of the sky like the media claims they will.
And let's see what they say when premiums start skyrocketing.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 01, 2013 04:48 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 04:48 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Mainah at October 01, 2013 04:48 AM (659DL)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 01, 2013 08:42 AM (/kU/5)
I won't link the post, but one of them crotch scratchers mumbled something about wishing she owned a gun. Good thing I didn't have a mouth full of coffee.
Posted by: Tangonine at October 01, 2013 04:48 AM (x3YFz)
It's time to crank up the coal-fired steam turbines, my Gaia-murdering friendsh.
Posted by: Fritz at October 01, 2013 04:49 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 04:49 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Mainah at October 01, 2013 04:49 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Baldy at October 01, 2013 04:49 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: Fart at October 01, 2013 04:49 AM (2aB+q)
Posted by: gwelf at October 01, 2013 04:50 AM (6egmO)
Lack of customers is a tech problem? Watch the dems fudge the numbers of sign ups. We're about to see how Obama would do running a business... into the ground.
Posted by: Dang at October 01, 2013 04:50 AM (Hx2XA)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 08:24 AM (zF6Iw)
I'd note the arch is closed, but the arch grounds are open.
Closing outdoor stuff in DC seems a bit like....and attempt to make this look worse than it is.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 01, 2013 04:50 AM (GaqMa)
Rob Schneider is now a Republican. For God's sake, can't we get any decent celebrities?
All the SNL guys from the late 80s-early 90s are turning into Republicans.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 01, 2013 04:50 AM (TpXEI)
What would it take to point out the damage it will do to our country or for that matter that the friggin constitution requires a budget every year.
That would require a backbone and a brain. So, we are royally screwed. The GOP can go straight to hell.
Posted by: Dandolo at October 01, 2013 04:51 AM (0XBx+)
Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 04:51 AM (z4WKX)
Stories from the Shut Down - Day One, continued
Driving to work this morning my car was beset by packs of feral dogs and wilding IRS auditors. The chaos swirls around the small bastion of safety that is my office, but how long can that last? How long can that last...
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 04:51 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 01, 2013 04:51 AM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Jaws at October 01, 2013 08:46 AM (4I3Uo)
Oh... I dunno. Some twit pulls a pink .380 on me and I'd say it's more than even odds in my favor.
Hell, I'd be willing to test the "knife-gun fight" theory if they're wearing berkenstocks.
Posted by: Tangonine at October 01, 2013 04:51 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: joncelli at October 01, 2013 04:52 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 04:52 AM (4df7R)
I've had enough of waking up, coming here, and seeing the same shit different day crap from Gabe. It's old.
From now on, I'm not posting in any Gabe Top Headline Comments thread. I'm going to wait for the Dump or Doom or whatever else is posted early in the morning. I urge any other commenter to do the same.
See you in the Dump thread.
Posted by: EC at October 01, 2013 04:52 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at October 01, 2013 04:53 AM (yAor6)
And let's see what they say when premiums start skyrocketing.
The Great One, Mark Levin, had a bunch of callers on his show last night to tell about what OCare has done to them. There's a clip of it over at Breitbart.
Wouldst that the Stoopid Party could adopt this tactic once in a while.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 01, 2013 04:53 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Jean at October 01, 2013 04:53 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 01, 2013 08:51 AM (4df7R)
Throw Che T-shirts out the door. That'll keep 'em busy for a good hour.
Posted by: Tangonine at October 01, 2013 04:53 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 04:53 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: ontherocks at October 01, 2013 04:53 AM (UiE+5)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 01, 2013 04:53 AM (U2UQk)
Yep.
If I wanted to be insulted within minutes of waking up, I'd just talk to my wife.
Posted by: Phinn at October 01, 2013 04:54 AM (oFH2D)
Holz-Eaking said on Bloomberg today that in this situation at least 60% of the government still functions and a "shut down is really a down sizing- albeit temporary until Congress coes back and makes it bigger.
Posted by: Marcus at October 01, 2013 04:54 AM (GGCsk)
I've had enough of waking up, coming here, and seeing the same shit different day crap from Gabe. It's old.
From now on, I'm not posting in any Gabe Top Headline Comments thread. I'm going to wait for the Dump or Doom or whatever else is posted early in the morning. I urge any other commenter to do the same.
See you in the Dump thread.
Posted by: EC at October 01, 2013 08:52 AM (GQ8sn)
Why the fuck did you even post that? No one cares. Just do it and quit the "look at me!" shit.
Posted by: Tangonine at October 01, 2013 04:54 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Lady in Black, why am I awake at this hour?! at October 01, 2013 04:55 AM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: cirque de soothsayer at October 01, 2013 04:55 AM (ALXav)
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at October 01, 2013 04:55 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 01, 2013 04:55 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at October 01, 2013 04:55 AM (5CSVY)
Posted by: wizardpc at October 01, 2013 04:56 AM (HDCAA)
Somehow during the death and destruction of the Government's Apocalyptic Shutdown, the Panda Cam bravely soldiers on.
--
It doesn't load on my end. I'm getting a doooom! message. But above the video, it said sponsored by The Ford Motor Company Fund. So why is it not functioning?
Posted by: Lady in Black, why am I awake at this hour?! at October 01, 2013 08:47 AM (XB5Ak)
They must have shut down panda cam. Notice that it took them 8 hours to do it? Tiger Cam is down too.
Posted by: rd at October 01, 2013 04:56 AM (D+lxs)
Posted by: ontherocks at October 01, 2013 04:56 AM (UiE+5)
Here's what I do --
1. Grab as many recycled phones from the bin at BestBuy as you can before the security guards notice,
2. Throw them out the window at furloughed federal employees,
3. Yell, "FREE OBAMA PHONES!!"
4. Continue driving away at high rate of speed.
OK, that's my last post in a Gabriel Malor thread.
Posted by: Phinn at October 01, 2013 04:56 AM (oFH2D)
Posted by: John Smith at October 01, 2013 04:57 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 01, 2013 04:57 AM (Sq5z0)
Posted by: Phinn at October 01, 2013 08:54 AM (oFH2D)
Wow. She's slow. She should take lessons from my wife!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 01, 2013 04:57 AM (/kU/5)
Well at least that's what I'm hoping, it would be nice to have one day where I don't have to wade through that drugged out disease ridden crowd just to go take a piss.
Posted by: mugiwara at October 01, 2013 04:57 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 01, 2013 04:57 AM (ZshNr)
One point where Gabe is completely wrong. The press would not be trumpeting the failure of the Obamacare exchanges....they would soft pedal it all as minor, and expected glitches.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 01, 2013 04:57 AM (0IhFx)
Hell, I'd be willing to test the "knife-gun fight" theory if they're wearing berkenstocks."
When you're done, don't forget to clear and safe the cute little Kel-Tec and reholster it in his lower G.I. tract for later removal by the professionals at the local Obamacare facility.
Posted by: Jaws at October 01, 2013 04:58 AM (4I3Uo)
When the IRS, via my doctor, is asking me how often and whom I fuck, the democrats (whom most of the "gays" support) are most explicitly not staying out of my (or their) bedroom, hot tub, front yard, backseat, etc.
Bunch of stupid, self-destructive people out there voting to cut off their own noses.
Posted by: Troll Feeder at October 01, 2013 04:59 AM (mxtLd)
Totally essential National Mall Park Police to citizenry: "Get off my lawn."
Posted by: sacred cow at October 01, 2013 04:59 AM (htcXk)
People would start to think we're living in a central american banana republic.
Posted by: Hopefull in Hill Valley at October 01, 2013 04:59 AM (cgflK)
good news!: only 3.2 more years of Obama
As someone wrote in the Bible, "Better the end of a thing than its beginning."
This is one thing I look forward to ending.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 01, 2013 05:00 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Gran at October 01, 2013 05:00 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at October 01, 2013 05:00 AM (5CSVY)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2013 05:00 AM (1RQeV)
It helps if your mother was bi-polar to get a plumb on the pulse of the place.
Posted by: The Phantom Menace at October 01, 2013 05:01 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: T. at October 01, 2013 05:01 AM (vDd63)
Here's a DKos thread where they're all bitching about how the healthcare.gov website sucks and they cannot even get logged in, or see prices, and they're being asked too many questions....
whoda thunkit
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 01, 2013 05:01 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Gran at October 01, 2013 05:03 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: Beagle at October 01, 2013 05:03 AM (sOtz/)
When the IRS, via my doctor, is asking me how often and whom I fuck, the democrats (whom most of the "gays" support) are most explicitly not staying out of my (or their) bedroom, hot tub, front yard, backseat, etc.
Bunch of stupid, self-destructive people out there voting to cut off their own noses.
Posted by: Troll Feeder at October 01, 2013 08:59 AM (mxtLd
Gays stopped not government in their bedroom the moment Lawrence v. Texas went their way. Now they want the government in their bedrooms. Armed with guns, forcing you in there as well, and prepared to shoot you if you do not applaud and cheer loud enough.
Posted by: buzzion at October 01, 2013 05:03 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2013 05:03 AM (g1DWB)
; display: inline !important; float: none;">http://tinyurl.com/luwwglx
; display: inline !important; float: none;">Democrats fundraise at HillaryÂ’s swanky house as government shuts downhttp://tinyurl.com/lgltbqs
; display: inline !important; float: none;">And there were after parties.
; display: inline !important; float: none;">Am I missing something? The government shuts down and the dems party hard?
; display: inline !important; float: none;">If any of us were drinking on the job, we'd be fired. Guess there are different rules for government employees?
; display: inline !important; float: none;"> ; display: inline !important; float: none;">Huma's in the pics, she went to the party, in DC. Does that mean she's given up her weiner?
; display: inline !important; float: none;">Anti-Chuck Todd Obamacare petition surpasses 150,000 signatures
; display: inline !important; float: none;">http://tinyurl.com/m92g4zh
Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 05:03 AM (Nx76m)
Posted by: Mainah at October 01, 2013 05:03 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Phinn at October 01, 2013 05:03 AM (oFH2D)
........
Any final solution will be considered a "cave" by one side or the other. It's called an agreement.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 01, 2013 05:04 AM (AYOav)
Thanks for responding. Have a great day. I t is going to be annoying with the Obamacare stuff scaring my mom (and ticking me off) and the shutdown stuff annoying us both.
Posted by: Baldy at October 01, 2013 05:04 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 01, 2013 05:04 AM (0HooB)
Yes. The even lesser relevant one.
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at October 01, 2013 05:05 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: @JohnTant at October 01, 2013 05:05 AM (F3IIA)
Obviously the healthcare exchange websites have been designed by fools and tards.
just embarrassing.
Posted by: Project ORCA at October 01, 2013 05:05 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 01, 2013 05:05 AM (MhA4j)
Spend the whole fricking week going to HC.gov
Posted by: Long Range Patrol at October 01, 2013 05:05 AM (3GuQx)
Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at October 01, 2013 05:06 AM (/sohm)
Yep.
This obamacare not worth fighting over.
I mean look at it's implimentaiton, so perfect:
(That's not a photoshop, I figured I'd take a walk around, see how bad it's going to be. And got that halfway through the account creation process)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 01, 2013 05:06 AM (GaqMa)
Or Kratos, with those "sheaths of fat." Or for that matter, you can lookitup, Stringer Davis's girlfriend. Remember that hawt exhibitionist stewardess? Good times, good times.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 01, 2013 05:06 AM (JNUY4)
is anybody really "bracing" for government shutdown fallout.
you always see political pundits use this kind of overstatement that isn't real.
Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at October 01, 2013 05:06 AM (5CSVY)
Posted by: NWConservative at October 01, 2013 05:06 AM (M1gmo)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 05:06 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 01, 2013 05:07 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 01, 2013 05:07 AM (659DL)
Posted by: joncelli at October 01, 2013 05:07 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 08:53 AM (z4WKX)
Hand are getting better, feet not so much. I suspect this is the way they will be for the rest of my life.
Posted by: Vic at October 01, 2013 05:07 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 01, 2013 05:07 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 05:07 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 01, 2013 05:08 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Andy at October 01, 2013 05:09 AM (DVPta)
They're _your_ surrender monkeys, Gabe. You clean up after 'em.
Posted by: Ken at October 01, 2013 05:09 AM (psZ2M)
Shorter Gabriel Malor: When will you serfs learn to accept the will of your betters?
Posted by: boone at October 01, 2013 05:10 AM (tIyK2)
Well, either the interweb is still working or the NSA has a really good AceOSpades blog emulator running.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget[/i] at October 01, 2013 05:10 AM (epxV4)
Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at October 01, 2013 05:11 AM (5CSVY)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 01, 2013 05:11 AM (659DL)
Posted by: T. at October 01, 2013 05:11 AM (vDd63)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 01, 2013 05:12 AM (659DL)
Some guy named Cruz did just that the other day.
Yeah, I caught that. But what I meant was bringing these folks to some Congressional meeting in person. In droves.
Can you imagine a long line of people ready to testify in front of Congress? The pic alone would say so much.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 01, 2013 05:13 AM (0HooB)
Strangely the main source of ire here at Ft Jackson seems to be the "free" child carer being at risk.....
yes "free" people's lack of self-awareness is stunning.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 01, 2013 05:13 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 01, 2013 09:07 AM (U2UQk)
Their lack of self-awareness is amazing. The amount of data mining is enough to "play right into the hands of..." somehow doesn't equate in their brains to, "The amount of data mining is enough to prove that THE PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT ON CORRECT."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 05:13 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 01, 2013 09:04 AM (AYOav)
Except when one side gets all they want and the other side gives it to them, that agreement is caving.
Posted by: buzzion at October 01, 2013 05:13 AM (LI48c)
Shorter Gabriel Malor, part II: Delay strategy? I never said anything about a delay strategy.
Oh, you meant where I argued that the Republicans should DELAY a vote on Obamacare until they have 60 votes in the Senate, a house majority, the Presidency, a helpful media, an engaged populace, budget surpluses, and no fewer than 8 votes on the Supreme Court. But seriously you guys, when we get all of those things, we will totally repeal, or at least fix, Obamacare.
Posted by: boone at October 01, 2013 05:13 AM (tIyK2)
OH NOES!!! Panda Cam is no more!
It only took them 8 hours to do it. Obviously somebody had to come in on dayshift to SHUTDOWN Panda Cam.
Posted by: rd at October 01, 2013 05:13 AM (D+lxs)
Posted by: Cajun Caret at October 01, 2013 05:14 AM (UZQM8)
Funny, Ulsterman's Republican Insider thinks the tea party can be killed? They really don't understand what the tea party is inside the beltway bubble, do they?
Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 05:14 AM (Nx76m)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2013 05:14 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: joncelli at October 01, 2013 08:52 AM (RD7QR)
It's all right. I'll drink enough for the both of us.
No need to thank me; it's the least I can do.
Posted by: The Freemasons at October 01, 2013 05:14 AM (zF6Iw)
We had a fully functioning, gentle, all-knowing and all-caring government helmed by the greatest human being to ever walk the face of the planet. Even greater than Jebus. I personally witnessed the man cure over nine thousand children of cancer by touching them on the forehead. Everyone was taken care of, and nobody wanted for anything. Sunshine glistened every day off the morning dew, as the Skittles shitting unicorn blazed across the rainbows in the sky, bringing joy to all.
Then the Republicans attacked.
Led by the demons Boehner and Cruz, they destroyed it all. Within minutes of THE END OF ALL GOVERNMENT™, people were dying in the streets from lack of social security payments and free health coverage. Grandma died on the spot. Giant SUV's rolled into the cities and ate all the Smartcars and Volts, dooming our atmosphere to bleed off, like Mars'. All the solar panels morphed into coal plants without carbon caps. The resulting acid rain melted the Skittles unicorn as the children looked on, their own eyes boiling out from the toxic sludge falling from the sky. The Delta Smelt immediately went extinct. Guam capsized and sank into the sea; a real modern day Atlantis. The pandas ate the PandaCam. AR-15's grew legs and started walking around, shooting people at random.
There were even people eating what food they wanted, walking down the streets drinking Big Gulps and eating a Big Mac! The horror! The horror!
Posted by: Ranba Ral at October 01, 2013 05:15 AM (G99e4)
Really, the key here is making sure all of the weak kneed Republicans stay in line for seven days. The weak point in the Democratic strategy is that a federal shutdown/slowdown has essentially no effect on business as usual. This is why the government closes down all of the highly visible parks and monuments, because they need people thinking that this is a disaster. In order to win this the Democrats and their media accomplices have to create the perception of pain and they have to get the squishes to cave quickly, because the longer this goes on the more obvious it becomes to everyone that there is no actual pain, and when that happens the Democrats lose their leverage.
Additionally, the longer this goes on the more people see the actual impact of Obamacare in the form of rising premiums, and if the Republicans were smart they'd be out there telling people to look at what their insurance is going to cost next year and asking them which party is trying to stick it to them and which party is trying to stop Obamacare in its tracks.
But most importantly, someone must keep the French wing of the Republican party from surrendering.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 01, 2013 05:15 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: X at October 01, 2013 05:15 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 05:15 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at October 01, 2013 05:15 AM (5CSVY)
Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 05:16 AM (z4WKX)
From Gabriel's web page:
"I just wanted to say that I like your site. I found it after you ranked my post on thinkleft.com"
http://malor.wordpress.com/about/
It seems ole Gab likes moonlighting at progressive sites. Perhaps they're starting to rub off on him.
Posted by: Foul Harold at October 01, 2013 05:16 AM (m/WmK)
Missouri Sen. Roy Blunt, a member of Senate GOP leadership and a former House Republican leader, said: “If Republicans don’t get most of the blame for a shutdown, it will be the only time that the opposition party to the president didn’t get the blame for a shutdown.”
(from the "bracing" article gabe linked in the post)
You know.
If I hadn't heard Gabe's voice I'd suspect he's really my state Senator. Lives in DC, out of touch with the base, angry over a shutdown.
Gabe I can't say it better than AtC, so read that as default.
But we do, in fact, own this now. So use that DC connections you're always babbling about on the podcast ("I talked to someone from State, Congressional staffers, a bathroom attendant at the Grand Hyatt") and go out there and start turning the tide for us. We have to sell this, that's always been the case.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 01, 2013 05:16 AM (GaqMa)
>>>Well at least that's what I'm hoping, it would be nice to have one day where I don't have to wade through that drugged out disease ridden crowd just to go take a piss.
Just went out for cookies at the hospital across from us - not all that busy, comparatively, but I don't work that sorry racket. They still park like idiots though.
Posted by: Bigby's Clappy Hands at October 01, 2013 05:17 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at October 01, 2013 05:17 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: joncelli at October 01, 2013 05:18 AM (RD7QR)
Can you imagine a long line of people ready to testify in front of Congress? The pic alone would say so much.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 01, 2013 09:13 AM (0HooB)
Well Rush talked about it yesterday. Most Republicans would never think to do it because "It won't be covered." The defeatist attitude of the Republicans. Don't even try because it won't be heard by people. Better to be the meek little mice.
Posted by: buzzion at October 01, 2013 05:18 AM (LI48c)
>>>Well, being murdered by your wife in your sleep tends to get in the way of that.
Phil Hartmann was totes against VAWA
Posted by: Bigby's Clappy Hands at October 01, 2013 05:19 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 01, 2013 05:20 AM (659DL)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 01, 2013 09:15 AM (4df7R)
What's with the Gabe bashing MWR?
Posted by: buzzion at October 01, 2013 05:20 AM (LI48c)
So thanks, Gabe, for bringing us all-- conservatives and Republicans-- for once, together. Against maybe the most ill-thought-out, self-contradictory post of yours I've ever read. (And I say that as someone who sometimes agrees with you and thinks people here are sometimes too harsh on you. Not this time.)
Posted by: lael at October 01, 2013 05:20 AM (1rj9K)
Posted by: Mainah at October 01, 2013 05:21 AM (659DL)
didn't this website start out as a moderate Republican website?
Seems like it has moved to the right during the Obama admin.
Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at October 01, 2013 05:21 AM (5CSVY)
The welfare office has been standing room only the last couple of months. I'm curious to see what it's like today. I've got to imagine a large portion of their clientele will turn on the tv, see the gov't is shut down, and won't bother showing up.
Well at least that's what I'm hoping, it would be nice to have one day where I don't have to wade through that drugged out disease ridden crowd just to go take a piss.
Posted by: mugiwara at October 01, 2013 08:57 AM (W7ffl)
Welfare office opens their doors at 9am and the line to check-in usually stretches out the door first thing in the morning. Just went to the bathroom to vacate my morning pot of coffee, all of three people waiting in the lobby.
Smart deadbeats show up today when there's no line. Those three should try their hands at actual work, but maybe they're smart enough to realize welfare pays better.
Posted by: mugiwara at October 01, 2013 05:21 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at October 01, 2013 05:21 AM (yAor6)
Totally essential National Mall Park Police to citizenry: "Get off my lawn."
Posted by: sacred cow at October 01, 2013 08:59 AM (htcXk)
That's why I said any pol who wants to get on the right side of this shutdown ought to be there. "You work for the public of the United States. YOU get off of OUR lawn!"
Posted by: The Freemasons at October 01, 2013 05:21 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: T. at October 01, 2013 05:22 AM (vDd63)
Posted by: Jeff in mi at October 01, 2013 05:22 AM (1z8rY)
Well Rush talked about it yesterday. Most Republicans would never think to do it because "It won't be covered." The defeatist attitude of the Republicans. Don't even try because it won't be heard by people. Better to be the meek little mice.
Posted by: buzzion at October 01, 2013 09:18 AM (LI48c)
You want it covered? Get some of the witnesses to act up like ACT UP!
Or like Code Pinko. MAKE THE NEWS!
Like Kate McMillan says, "Not showing up to riot" is a failed conservative policy.
Posted by: rd at October 01, 2013 05:22 AM (D+lxs)
Posted by: JJ Stone at October 01, 2013 05:22 AM (AoXKG)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 05:22 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Randall Hoven at October 01, 2013 05:22 AM (Xh32S)
Posted by: X at October 01, 2013 05:23 AM (KHo8t)
Republican Leaders Make Stealth Immigration Push While Members Focus On Budget Fights; Obamacare...
Paul Ryan working on amnesty deal...
Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 05:24 AM (Nx76m)
Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 05:24 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at October 01, 2013 05:24 AM (5CSVY)
Since when has giving in to the Democrats been a win for the GOP? How bout we try standing our ground for a change and seeing how that works out. The 1995 shutdown happened in a whole different world and didn't do that much damage to the GOP anyway so it's really not relevant.
I say we go down fighting instead of on our knees . . .
Posted by: TRO at October 01, 2013 05:24 AM (mlQIE)
The thing is they have pretty much regulated the bejeezus out of baby sitting on post.
The Military has a LOT of collectivist big government psychology involved....
me, I just enjoy the drama.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 01, 2013 05:24 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at October 01, 2013 05:25 AM (5CSVY)
Posted by: Mainah at October 01, 2013 05:25 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Jean at October 01, 2013 05:26 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at October 01, 2013 05:26 AM (yAor6)
October's awesome, except for whatever's pollinating. I can finally go outside in the afternoon without blistering.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 01, 2013 05:26 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: T. at October 01, 2013 05:27 AM (vDd63)
Can you imagine a long line of people ready to testify in front of Congress? The pic alone would say so much.
Hard for them to testify when the Dems walk out and the GOP are too spineless to bar the doors.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 01, 2013 05:27 AM (zF6Iw)
what happened to David Brooks, seems like he has fallen off the radar.
He was last heard calling Ted Cruz that "Canadian Senator through Texas."
He's a pant-sniffing hack.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 01, 2013 05:27 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: andrew at October 01, 2013 05:27 AM (VjlMj)
Posted by: runningrn at October 01, 2013 05:27 AM (PLOz8)
The media blame Republicans. It is what they do. They blame Republicans for shutting down the government. They blame Republicans because there are political disputes in DC. They blame Republicans because Putin ate Obama's lunch in Syria. They blame Republicans because foreigners don't respect the United States any more. They blame Republicans because it rained right after they washed their car. They blame Republicans because the bathroom scale shows they gained five pounds.
Doing anything or not doing anything in order to prevent the media from blaming Republicans is about as pointless as throwing virgins into a volcano. It has no effect on whether the bad stuff is going to happen and it needlessly wastes virgins.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 01, 2013 05:28 AM (31Nrp)
*makes notes*
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 01, 2013 05:28 AM (/kI1Q)
“This time the House has attached a poison pill that would punish 16,000 congressional staff,” he said.
...with the insurance plan their bosses have foisted on the rest of us.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 01, 2013 05:28 AM (TpXEI)
Well Rush talked about it yesterday. Most Republicans would never think to do it because "It won't be covered." The defeatist attitude of the Republicans. Don't even try because it won't be heard by people. Better to be the meek little mice.
It sounds as though Rinse Prius has never heard of YourFace and Tweeter. There are ways to bypass the MFM and create your own buzz, but NOOO...
But he will spend a shitload of money for a new and unnecessary Chief Tech Officer to invade your privacy. I rant about this over at my slice of Intarwebz Heaven. If they had a coherent message that made sense (composed mostly of how the Prog/Coms are killing the country and how they'd stop it), they wouldn't need to spend all that money getting their message out: people would flock to them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 01, 2013 05:29 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at October 01, 2013 05:30 AM (ndp2I)
Posted by: GMan at October 01, 2013 05:30 AM (sxq57)
The Venn diagram for conservatives and Republicans barely overlaps (almost the perfect illustration of an infinitesimal area)!
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 01, 2013 05:31 AM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Heather Radish's Beneficiary [/i] at October 01, 2013 05:31 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: T. at October 01, 2013 05:31 AM (vDd63)
Posted by: lindafell at October 01, 2013 05:31 AM (PGO8C)
Posted by: JJ Stone at October 01, 2013 05:31 AM (AoXKG)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at October 01, 2013 09:30 AM (ndp2I)
Parties and after parties last night and partying while at work. It bothered the tweeting reporters that they smelled alcohol on people's breath? And reps posting pics of receptions below their offices. Yeah, last night was very funny.
Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 05:32 AM (Nx76m)
Are you nuts?
Posted by: GMan at October 01, 2013 05:32 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Warden at October 01, 2013 05:32 AM (bmp0d)
Posted by: ontherocks at October 01, 2013 05:32 AM (UiE+5)
Posted by: Bill at October 01, 2013 05:33 AM (BPKIW)
Posted by: runningrn at October 01, 2013 05:33 AM (PLOz8)
Posted by: Pant Sniffers and Bicycle Seat Enthusiasts Local 117 at October 01, 2013 05:34 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 01, 2013 05:34 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: eman at October 01, 2013 05:35 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: X at October 01, 2013 05:35 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 01, 2013 05:35 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: JJ Stone at October 01, 2013 05:35 AM (AoXKG)
Posted by: runningrn at October 01, 2013 05:35 AM (PLOz8)
Posted by: jeannebodine at October 01, 2013 05:37 AM (2LJqa)
Posted by: no good deed at October 01, 2013 05:37 AM (k55Fc)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 01, 2013 05:38 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 05:38 AM (Nx76m)
Or like Code Pinko. MAKE THE NEWS!
But my hand stitched vagina costume no longer fits. And believe you me, no one wants to see an old sweaty guy protesting in an ill fitting hand stitched vagina costume.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 01, 2013 05:39 AM (0IhFx)
You can borrow my spare sewing machine.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 01, 2013 05:40 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Kerry at October 01, 2013 05:56 AM (AYfPj)
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 01, 2013 05:58 AM (MnSla)
Posted by: Polaralizing For America at October 01, 2013 06:13 AM (e8kgV)
I decided to shed the Phantom Menace nic...
There are a lot of nice trucks around.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 01, 2013 06:15 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: rockhead at October 01, 2013 06:19 AM (jtTKf)
Gabe, we can't stop Obamacare with control of only the House. When Obamacare takes effect and starts hitting the American public good and hard, then we can say we did all we could to stop it. That's the takeaway here.
So enough with the defeatism already. It's getting old. Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
Posted by: troyriser at October 01, 2013 06:25 AM (gNlvW)
Posted by: rockhead at October 01, 2013 06:28 AM (jtTKf)
All it demonstrates is the pointlessness of giving any support of any kind to Gabe's Obsolete Party.
The upside of the burning times is that dem-lites like Gabe and Boehner get to burn, too.
Posted by: Methos at October 01, 2013 06:34 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at October 01, 2013 06:41 AM (ShEr+)
Posted by: Iblis at October 01, 2013 06:43 AM (U0ndG)
Posted by: skh.pcola at October 01, 2013 07:28 AM (y4ZZe)
Gabe - one man's "antics" are another's "effective messaging."
The public will not spend the time necessary to learn about the subtle genius behind Boehner/Cantor's multi-dimensional parliamentary chess strategies. And as Bush demonstrated with his "presidential" reticence in the face of left-wing mud-slingers, they will assume silence and inaction = acquiesence and admission ("Bush lied...").
This is doubly so with LIV's.
We were going to be pilloried in the press no matter who did what when. If we'd simply folded our arms and done nothing, the unfolding OCare trainwreck would be our fault ("The admin didn't have time and resources to devote to making this work because the Rethuglikkans kept fighting us...").
Sometimes the high risk, possible reward strategy is better than the low-risk, no reward option.
"But there's no reward from Cruz's antics !"
Except that one wing of the moribund Republican party has clearly stated its position and acted consistently with its stated principles. Someone actually stood up to the Democrats and said no, albeit in a futile effort.
This has a lot more resonance with voters than Gabe and the other mavens of backroom Machievellian subtleties realize.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at October 01, 2013 08:11 AM (Ywrpx)
Posted by: NJRob at October 01, 2013 08:12 AM (iJWJi)
The great thing about the conservative strategy is that either outcome -- surrender by RINOS or non-surrender -- brings Good Things. Surrender is gonna give some good intel and unity for the conservatives in our primary efforts. Looking forward to the primaries and all that we have gained from the past two weeks.
Ted Cruz for President.
Posted by: Igor at October 01, 2013 08:23 AM (dA7Fi)
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Posted by: Rich at October 01, 2013 10:09 AM (EaFK8)
WHAT? No, hell — of course he’s completely wrong!
Made you think about it though, didnÂ’t I?
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