October 16, 2013
— Gabriel Malor Day 16.
NRO's Jonathan Strong has wrap-up for yesterday's shenanigans in the House which looked a lot like the rejection of Speaker Boehner's "Plan B" during the fiscal cliff impasse last year during the holidays. You'll recall that under Plan B, the Bush tax cuts would be extended for everyone making less than $1 million per year. Days after that was rejected for being a "tax hike," the House was forced to vote on the Senate's offer to extend the tax cuts only for everyone making less than $450k per year. Many Republicans again voted no, but the bill passed with mixed Dem and GOP support. Here's what I wrote after that little episode:
Back to the fiscal cliff, there's a lot of moaning about Republicans "paying the price" for yesterday's fiscal cliff drama, by which I mean not just the vote, but also the all-day Three Stooges routine put on by the House GOP. I don't think that's true. Most GOP members get to go back to their districts and say they voted against the plan, which will no doubt please their majority-GOP constituents. The ones that voted for the plan were already on solid ground in their more purple districts. They get to go back and say they averted tax hikes for their constituents.Each of these two categories of Republican congressmen are going to count their actions as qualified victories when they seek reelection. So, of course, neither group has much incentive to change anything about the way they acted the next time around. Did I mention the sequester and debt ceiling debates are just around the corner?
Anyway, word is filtering out of the Senate that they'll move legislation that includes government funding through January 15, a debt ceiling hike through about February 7, a budget commission, income verification for Obamacare subsidies, and flexibility to government agencies on what to cut for sequestration. No Vitter Amendment and no medical device tax repeal or delay.
Colorado is looking at another recall petition for a gun grabbing state senator. If successful, the recall would flip control of the state senate back to the GOP. The state's Democratic governor is telling the gun control groups that poured millions into the campaigns of recalled incumbents earlier in the year to stay away.
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Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 03:02 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: RushBabe at October 16, 2013 03:02 AM (hrIP5)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 03:02 AM (CofEF)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 16, 2013 03:03 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 03:05 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Talibill at October 16, 2013 03:06 AM (WEWGu)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 16, 2013 03:10 AM (U2UQk)
...........
How is that? If he was usurping power, it would already be done. The fact that we are shut down would indicate the Constitutional powers are working just fine, RushBabe...
Levin is an agitating ass.. with that whiny little voice as he gets all excited..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 16, 2013 03:10 AM (b/lt+)
Posted by: Talibill at October 16, 2013 03:10 AM (WEWGu)
Director Blue (Doug Ross) thinks that the administration has been planning the shutdown for months, just based on the quick availability of shutdown signs and closing websites.
Weasel Zippers has an exclusive story about a USDA letter sent out on the 11th directing state agencies to prepare for a shutdown of EBT benefits Nov. 1.
http://tinyurl.com/kejq6ye
If that happens, I won't need the matches.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 16, 2013 03:14 AM (wNF3N)
...........
How is that? If he was usurping power, it would already be done. The fact that we are shut down would indicate the Constitutional powers are working just fine, RushBabe...
Levin is an agitating ass.. with that whiny little voice as he gets all excited..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 16, 2013 07:10 AM (b/lt+)
Choomy's constant "I won't sign this" shtick is his way of saying he's intent on default even though the Constitution says a president has the obligation to pay debts and interest payment FIRST. He's stringing this "negotiation" along to get to his end game: American collapse, even though there's plenty of $$ to pay the interest on the debt. As for Levin, his knowledge more than makes up for whatever vocal qualities you think he may lack.
Posted by: RushBabe at October 16, 2013 03:14 AM (hrIP5)
Morning, all. Still kind of feeling my way back from vacation and working through a funk. Don't think there'll be any Hollywood stories this week.
So. . .did I miss any epic wielding of the banhammer?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 03:15 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 16, 2013 03:17 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 16, 2013 03:18 AM (U2UQk)
Except we're not really shut down. The President is deciding what gets funded and what doesn't. I have no desire or intent to qualify the whats and ifs of who has constitutional authority here, but I don't think it's hyperbole to say the President and his administration and party are trying to take power away from the House.
Whereas, calling someone an "agitating ass" seems pretty agitating to me. It's fine if you don't like the guy, but I thought it worth pointing out you are accusing him of doing what you are doing.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2013 03:19 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 16, 2013 03:20 AM (b/lt+)
I'm sure in their eyes, this is their moment. Who knows what they'll do with it, but I think it is clear they have no short-term plan and very lofty goals. If they concede anything to the GOP at this point, the rest of the 2nd term is lost to the dems. It's all about elections to them and pushing as much agenda leftward and monies into their friends pockets as possible.
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 03:20 AM (/jHWN)
http://tinyurl.com/l78xw4s
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 16, 2013 03:20 AM (wNF3N)
Posted by: sneaky little chelsea five-eyes at October 16, 2013 03:20 AM (jYxCp)
Morning Everyone!Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 03:20 AM (10H0T)
Posted by: .87c at October 16, 2013 03:20 AM (qZPXs)
First:
Choomy's constant "I won't sign this" shtick is his way of saying he's intent on default even though the Constitution says a president has the obligation to pay debts and interest payment FIRST. He's stringing this "negotiation" along to get to his end game: American collapse, even though there's plenty of $$ to pay the interest on the debt.
Then:
Director Blue (Doug Ross) thinks that the administration has been planning the shutdown for months, just based on the quick availability of shutdown signs and closing websites.
Weasel Zippers has an exclusive story about a USDA letter sent out on the 11th directing state agencies to prepare for a shutdown of EBT benefits Nov. 1.
This is why I unplugged all last week and am seriously thinking of unplugging now. Why is it that a bunch of Morons can succinctly sum up this administration's crimes so that even the L-est of LIV's could understand, and yet there's not one fucking person in DC who will stand up and give Barky a big middle finger, saying "you are an un-American traitor to the Constitution and I will do everything in my power to stop you. In fact, I dare you to send your goons to arrest me, Barry. You want to be a dictator? You want to spark a war? Bring it on!"
I'm sick of this country. I'm sick of everything.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 03:20 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 16, 2013 03:21 AM (vzfrq)
Bronco is going to go full Hugo pretty soon.
Posted by: Roland THTG at October 16, 2013 03:23 AM (qyoyx)
He's a blowhard.. like Rush.. but Rush just does it better..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 16, 2013 03:23 AM (b/lt+)
Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at October 16, 2013 03:23 AM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 03:24 AM (4T5lL)
Posted by: sneaky little chelsea five-eyes at October 16, 2013 03:24 AM (jYxCp)
You seem to be arguing within some narrowly defined confines that only you can see. The rest of us are arguing something else.
Again, that's fine. You do what you need to do, Jerry. I'm sure it makes sense to you.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2013 03:24 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 16, 2013 03:26 AM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 03:26 AM (4T5lL)
Posted by: Gran at October 16, 2013 03:26 AM (mw0FO)
........
And I'm defending that how? We were talking about budget negotiations.. try to keep up.
Obama is a communist prick.. he's abusing the power of the presidency to make the shutdown painful for as many Americans as he can. But that's not what we were talking about.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 16, 2013 03:27 AM (b/lt+)
History is replete with tyranny overwhelming folks not paying attention until it was too late. But paying attention is maddening for sure. And giving a shit .. well, that's where the left has us, cause they won't stop till they've ruined it all . They never stop.
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 03:28 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 16, 2013 03:28 AM (b/lt+)
So Manute Bol became a hero of mine after seeing a documentary about him not long ago. Seems he was from the Sudan and tried to use his standing as the nation's most favored athlete to bring a halt to the killing there. Went home even though he knew he could be arrested. They put him under house arrest and it took a little international pressure to free him.
But the big guy died young and fairly poor.
Posted by: Typo Dynamofo at October 16, 2013 03:30 AM (FtCW+)
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 16, 2013 03:30 AM (MnSla)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 03:30 AM (4T5lL)
Yeah, I've been through a couple myself. All perfectly legal per the US SC.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 16, 2013 03:31 AM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at October 16, 2013 03:31 AM (QR7wx)
Sorry about that, peeps. The mind's in a bad place right now, though it's nothing compared to poor Carol's problems with her brother (prayers for you, Carol).
So let me try to give you a short story, even though I don't have any files in front of me. It's from the new Gloria Swanson biography:
Swanson was known in her later life for espousing a vegetarian diet, macrobiotics and holistic healing (in fact, Dirk "Starbuck" Benedict) was a protege of hers for a while. But her belief that she knew best for her body had a long history. It seems that, early in the 1920's, Swanson had to have an operation as a result of the birth of her daughter, which left her with a wound of some sort between her vajayjay and her squeakhole. She asked the doctor why it couldn't be repaired with another surgery* and was told it was an interior hole.
Swanson didn't believe that nothing could be done. So for the next couple of weeks, she lay out in the sun, her legs splayed up to her ears and out like the blades of a scissor, each hour dripping some sterilized saltwater to the affected area.
And, at the end of the treatment, she was cured. Who'd have thunk it?
Here's a picture of Swanson from around that time (click to enlarge):
http://tinyurl.com/o9sqedz
*and remember, this is in the days before antibiotics. Surgery was a crapshoot, sometimes.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 03:31 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 03:32 AM (4T5lL)
Posted by: Chris at October 16, 2013 03:32 AM (aBOfW)
Joint Oversight Hearing on "As Difficult As Possible: The National Park ServiceÂ’s Implementation of the Government Shutdown"
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:30 AM
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 03:34 AM (/jHWN)
Either vote to repeal the Grassley Amendment or abide by it.
So. Question. Since we appear to be living in political Groundhog Day, does that mean we're the rocks or the groundhog?
Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 16, 2013 03:34 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 16, 2013 03:34 AM (drXjQ)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at October 16, 2013 03:37 AM (QR7wx)
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 03:37 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Fnord at October 16, 2013 03:37 AM (2IwS+)
Posted by: redenzo at October 16, 2013 03:38 AM (vx61Q)
We are the hay and shredded newspaper on the bottom of Punxatawney Phil's cage.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2013 03:39 AM (/kU/5)
Wait, what? Wasn't she kidnapped once before too?
Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 16, 2013 03:39 AM (Gk3SS)
Quite possibly because the folks in Washington have to deal with reality, and declaring open civil war is a wee bit radical even for Ted Cruz? You know, its kind of fascinating that y`all are still living in the bubble that made you 100% of a sweeping victory last year.
Barack Obama has committed demonstrable and impeachable acts. So asking why no one in DC seems to have the stones to call him on it is "living in a bubble?"
House rules forbid me from responding in a more direct manner.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 03:41 AM (zF6Iw)
How's that supplicatory butt thrust towards the dems working out for Constitutional governance?
Go to Tepid NBC is selling the bullshit that 51% of America wants the Constitution ignored along with God....
if true war's coming.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 03:41 AM (slUDg)
Posted by: Bob at October 16, 2013 03:43 AM (qTsuK)
Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 16, 2013 03:43 AM (QAL0t)
Granting of waivers and the employer mandate suspension. The facts coming out now that the administration didn't get the work started on the webpage until this last spring because of all the politics they've been playing. Pure scandal and the media are up to their ears involved.
Like a caller to Rush said yesterday, this as if the country had been invaded and taken over by socialists. Or even a coup. We've got propaganda 24/7 from the media toting water for the administration and the regulatory agencies are in over-drive writing regs and interpreting laws as they see fit with no oversight.
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 03:44 AM (/jHWN)
, don't get mad; it spoils your aim. Channel it at the target.Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 16, 2013 03:44 AM (jlm/B)
yup and they are not planning on ever not being "the man"....
they bury the Constitution this is a penal colony.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 03:45 AM (slUDg)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 03:47 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2013 03:47 AM (4+AaH)
Posted by: Reality Man at October 16, 2013 03:50 AM (Cs9Ps)
Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 16, 2013 03:50 AM (QAL0t)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 16, 2013 03:52 AM (P/gm7)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 16, 2013 03:53 AM (V3kRK)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 16, 2013 03:53 AM (SzAZ7)
That might be one of the funniest things I've ever read here.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 16, 2013 03:54 AM (/kI1Q)
also, why is it that I picture you in a cape? Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 03:54 AM (10H0T)
Okay, you lost me there.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 16, 2013 07:53 AM (SzAZ7)
I second that remark.
Posted by: Talibill at October 16, 2013 03:55 AM (WEWGu)
Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 07:54 AM (10H0T)
Really?
I see him at a desk in front of a spittle-flecked monitor, yelling at no one in particular...."You fucking fuckers!"
Sort of like what I do a few times each week.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2013 03:57 AM (/kU/5)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 16, 2013 03:58 AM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at October 16, 2013 03:58 AM (hsTmJ)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 03:59 AM (zF6Iw)
There are people who come to this site, as there are all around Washington, who believe this fight is about who controls the R party.
That's what they are fighting, and so it causes head-scratching by the rest of us when they engage in their esoteric arguments.
Again, I think that's fine, if that's as far as they want to concern themselves, but I kind of resent the fact that they will disingenuously engage people who are talking about something else, something quite a bit more important than party in-fighting.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2013 03:59 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 16, 2013 04:00 AM (V3kRK)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 16, 2013 04:00 AM (SzAZ7)
Is there anyone like that in the NBA today?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 16, 2013 04:01 AM (/kI1Q)
And the story was....interesting.
I had to read it over a couple of times to make sure I was seeing what I was seeing. I can only imagine what Swanson's house staff made of the sight!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 04:01 AM (zF6Iw)
1) isn't a Obama voter/lover/worshipper
2) pre-exhisting health issue so they benefit from others paying for their health condition
3) actually is going on Obamacare with no subsidy and get to keep their doctor/dentist/specialists
4) Don't think the Government should one day take over health care, ie, single payer and this is a neccesary start cause most Americans don't want single payer, so has to be snuck in slowly..
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 04:01 AM (/jHWN)
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Good gawd, man. Sybil experienced greater reality than these derelicts.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 16, 2013 04:01 AM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 16, 2013 04:02 AM (aPEuQ)
Posted by: Ben Franklin at October 16, 2013 04:03 AM (QupBk)
How did you do that? I tried some escape codes but the ampersands got stripped out.
Posted by: Gran at October 16, 2013 07:57 AM (mw0FO)
Don't know how FTL did it but Firefox has kinds of nifty stuff available in a tool bar patch:
♫♬۞✰♔✞☮☏☢☂
**
Morn' rons.
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 04:03 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 16, 2013 04:03 AM (SzAZ7)
Saw this reported in more than one place. So there you have it.
Posted by: jeannebodine at October 16, 2013 04:04 AM (2LJqa)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 16, 2013 04:05 AM (V3kRK)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 16, 2013 04:05 AM (P/47D)
Egad, that is the saddest and most truthful thing I will read today...
Off to the salt mines I go.....
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2013 04:05 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 04:05 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 16, 2013 04:06 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Todd W at October 16, 2013 04:08 AM (9mWut)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 16, 2013 04:09 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 04:09 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Gran at October 16, 2013 04:10 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 16, 2013 04:10 AM (pyh5u)
Posted by: Countrysquire at October 16, 2013 04:10 AM (LSJmV)
MTV announced that it will premiere its docu-series Generation Cryo on November 25. Generation Cryo follows a teenaged girl’s effort to locate all of her half-siblings, fathered by anonymous sperm donor #1096 — as well as and her anonymous dad, with the help of Donor Sibling Registry, a website that says it’s dedicated to connecting sperm donor families.
In the six-episode docu, Breeanna discovers she has at least 15 half-siblings, and sets out to connect with them and figure out which ones want to search for their father.
Deadline.com
"The father? You guessed it -- Frank Stallone."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2013 04:11 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 16, 2013 04:11 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 16, 2013 08:09 AM (SzAZ7)
Which isn't to say I didn't try. I searched for Jayne Mansfield, Diana Dors and Marilyn Monroe out of cakes, but didn't find anything. Which doesn't mean there isn't anything, just that a more detailed search would have IT paying me a call.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 04:12 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Gran at October 16, 2013 04:13 AM (mw0FO)
MP4:
I love your work and it's always a highlight to my morning.
Gran:
I love your list every morning. I have my browser set up so I can Wiki search anything that I've highlighted. I often spend most of the morning thread reading up on people unfamiliar to me on your list. Learning about Manute Bol was a nice way to start this morning.
I know Vic is the Morning Man here but you two have also become beloved fixtures on every morning's Top Headlines Comment thread.
To the both of you:
Please keep it up. You provide lots of knowledge and enjoyment to everybody's mornings.
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 16, 2013 04:14 AM (tOkJB)
http://is.gd/m88Sxe
Probably a good thing I can't see the comments at work.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 16, 2013 04:15 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 16, 2013 04:15 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 16, 2013 04:15 AM (SzAZ7)
The only other ball player I have seen to give so much it Hakeem Olajuwon.
Spent his own money building hospitals.
Posted by: Chef Justice at October 16, 2013 04:15 AM (FtCW+)
What's the name of the patch?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2013 08:12 AM (/kU/5)
*
Don't remember, been looking for it for the last few minutes. Its called Fun Characters.
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 04:15 AM (wmU4G)
There is no such thing as default unless there is an actual evil attempt from the administration. When you have 18 percent of GDP coming in in cash, less than 2 percent going out in debt coverage—I’m stunned you all fall for it in the press. None of you were math majors, were you?
http://is.gd/i5qfwc
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 16, 2013 04:21 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at October 16, 2013 04:23 AM (7r5fL)
Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 16, 2013 04:23 AM (u+9Sb)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 16, 2013 04:24 AM (eJvk4)
I tried to make this point to Ace in one of the threads yesterday.
We have the money to pay our bond interest.
Therefore default is simply a political tool.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2013 04:24 AM (/kU/5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2013 04:27 AM (UbDLm)
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 16, 2013 04:28 AM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Navigator Bill at October 16, 2013 04:28 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Mainah at October 16, 2013 04:28 AM (659DL)
I have been there once. I agree...what's the big deal?
Raymonds is better for breakfast, although not inexpensive.
And for brunch, try Park West Tavern.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2013 04:29 AM (/kU/5)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 16, 2013 04:29 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Case at October 16, 2013 04:30 AM (tjj0w)
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 16, 2013 04:30 AM (XdnQT)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 16, 2013 04:30 AM (/kI1Q)
http://bit.ly/1by7f6K
by Jim Gerarghty
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 04:30 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Home of Pancakes at October 16, 2013 04:31 AM (659DL)
Posted by: UWP at October 16, 2013 04:31 AM (vj51i)
Posted by: Gran at October 16, 2013 04:33 AM (mw0FO)
I keep hearing from libtards that I'm scared to death of the shutdown, and more scared of the upcoming 40% shutdown.
The topic du jour around my area is that the GOP (and Tea Party, specifically) is afraid Barkycare will work and people will vote Democrat in thanks, so naturally we're fighting its implementation.
And racist.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 04:34 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 04:34 AM (/jHWN)
Wow... I'm getting a little verklempt here, Ed. Thank you so much.
Ditto, Ed. You're far kinder than I deserve. Let me see if I can stay sober long enough tonight to write up a story about the awful Dondi movie.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 04:35 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 04:36 AM (10H0T)
Posted by: Navigator Bill at October 16, 2013 04:37 AM (SzAZ7)
Yeah, that's what I hear around here.
I skipped a quilt meeting last night b/c I couldn't deal with the woman who believes Ted Cruz was trying to kill her son. I'm getting double the USDA RDA of bullshit at work.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 16, 2013 04:37 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Case at October 16, 2013 08:30 AM (tjj0w)
Only taxpayers should vote. No taxation without representation, and no representation without taxation.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 04:38 AM (TpXEI)
Wish the GOP would learn to fight dirty. Stupid bastards.
And the funny thing is that they wouldn't have to fight dirty, at least not in the beginning. Look at that quote farther up about "none of you reporters were math majors, were you?" It would be so easy to pop the self-important bubble of the MFM, but our solons won't do it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 04:39 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Home of Pancakes at October 16, 2013 04:39 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 16, 2013 04:40 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 16, 2013 04:41 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at October 16, 2013 04:41 AM (7r5fL)
Posted by: LASue at October 16, 2013 04:42 AM (vtZtI)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 08:38 AM (TpXEI)
You have to define "taxpayer." Otherwise, you get the LIV argument that everybody pays taxes of one kind or another.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 04:43 AM (zF6Iw)
The GOP needs to learn how to look like winners.
Pass the bill we want, include something that the democrats can't defend, like making staff subject to Obamacare, then go out in front of the cameras smiling, shaking hands and congratulating each other like you just cured cancer.
Then leave town.
Leave it on the senate to either pass it or shut the world down. Those pussies will cave and Obama would be on the spot to sign it or veto a (now) bipartisan bill.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2013 04:44 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at October 16, 2013 04:44 AM (EJ/Tn)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 16, 2013 04:44 AM (1ZSnU)
Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 04:47 AM (10H0T)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2013 04:47 AM (UbDLm)
Posted by: real joe at October 16, 2013 04:47 AM (xXhgd)
Alright, finally a columnist who has bothered to find out who and what the Teaparty is. And those who insult and denigrate it can kiss my hairy ass.
http://tinyurl.com/lzrejgh
Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2013 04:47 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: yujin at October 16, 2013 04:47 AM (uNd+K)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 16, 2013 04:48 AM (5J54Q)
Posted by: Navigator Bill at October 16, 2013 08:37 AM (SzAZ7)
They couldn't quite kill us with the War on Poverty, the VRA, and the War on Drugs, but this time I think they've found a winner.
Posted by: Hrothgar Medicare and DMV Administraitor at October 16, 2013 04:48 AM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Boone at October 16, 2013 04:48 AM (tIyK2)
Posted by: joncelli at October 16, 2013 04:48 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: BignJames at October 16, 2013 04:49 AM (ZNQKl)
Once upon a time.
...and you threw it all away.
I suggest you hitch up your lady skirts and check your provisions, because not everyone is complacent with being a skeleton in a camp.
Posted by: George Washington at October 16, 2013 04:50 AM (gfGOZ)
I liked that at least he nailed that the Tea Party can't win the media spin, and Obama and his ilk are playing the game to the hilt because they think they're winning.
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 04:50 AM (/jHWN)
And the words that are used
For to get the ship confused
Will not be understood as theyÂ’re spoken
For the chains of the sea
Will have busted in the night
And will be buried at the bottom of the ocean
Time for work. Have a good day y'all.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 16, 2013 04:50 AM (P/gm7)
Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 08:47 AM (10H0T)
Why it is almost like the establishment "they" have secured an special position for themselves where they and their families are secure from all the daily government affronts to regular citizens.
Posted by: Hrothgar Medicare and DMV Administraitor at October 16, 2013 04:51 AM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2013 04:51 AM (UbDLm)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat ☠[/i] at October 16, 2013 04:53 AM (U2UQk)
Alright, finally a columnist who has bothered to find out who and what the Teaparty is. And those who insult and denigrate it can kiss my hairy ass.
http://tinyurl.com/lzrejgh Posted by: maddogg
Thanks for sharing.. that was well written
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 04:55 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 16, 2013 04:55 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Boone at October 16, 2013 04:56 AM (tIyK2)
Ready for more shutdown theater?
Coworker of mine got a decent promotion two years ago, enough that he was catapulted into a higher tax bracket. He was victimized by the Alternative Minimum Tax and ended up owing a shit-ton of money which he didn't have, so he set up a payment plan with the IRS.
Tells me today that he pulled enough money together to pay off the outstanding tax balance and sent the check last month. IRS cashes the check two weeks ago, but yesterday took his regular payment out of his bank account.
So he tries to call the IRS and gets a recording that all IRS offices are closed due to the "budget situation." So yeah, they have enough people to cash the checks, but are hiding from the people to whom they owe money.
If the tables were turned do you think the IRS would accept non-payment from an individual "due to his budget situation?"
Posted by: @JohnTant at October 16, 2013 04:57 AM (eytER)
Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 16, 2013 04:57 AM (F1lOF)
Posted by: soothie at October 16, 2013 04:57 AM (4dK3y)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 16, 2013 04:57 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 16, 2013 04:58 AM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 16, 2013 04:58 AM (1ZSnU)
Posted by: ALH at October 16, 2013 04:59 AM (yAPdC)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 16, 2013 04:59 AM (V3kRK)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 16, 2013 05:01 AM (shXYq)
Posted by: @JohnTant at October 16, 2013 08:57 AM (eytER)
No, fuck, no. I've got problems with them thieving pricks right now. And it isn't getting any easier. Perhaps I should lie to them and tell them I work for The Daily Kos and Planned Abortionhood, then they would get off their asses and fix the jam I'm in. But, oh no the NSA has let them know who I am. I'm screwed.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 16, 2013 05:01 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 16, 2013 05:02 AM (1ZSnU)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2013 05:03 AM (UbDLm)
Posted by: ALH at October 16, 2013 08:59 AM (yAPdC)
Did Lonegan ever have a chance anyway? Cory Booker was anointed, the rest was going through the ritual. Keep an eye on Cory, he's Obama 2.0.
Posted by: joncelli at October 16, 2013 05:03 AM (RD7QR)
Alright, finally a columnist who has bothered to find out who and
what the Teaparty is. And those who insult and denigrate it can kiss my
hairy ass.
http://tinyurl.com/lzrejgh
Posted by: maddogg
Thanks for sharing.. that was well written
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 08:55 AM (/jHWN
I could have done without the bits that make the TP sound nativist, though.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 05:03 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: jeffrey pelt at October 16, 2013 05:04 AM (2kpL8)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 16, 2013 09:02 AM (1ZSnU)
Well we will need more landscapers with all this global warming causing snow to disappear. Oh what am I saying, the forecast for the northern part of the state is for snow showers this weekend. And we are still in October.
I should go back to work. I'm already fuming about shit. Later 'rons and 'ettes.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 16, 2013 05:04 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: ALH at October 16, 2013 08:59 AM (yAPdC)
While I fully expect T-Bone's bro to win, a Lonnegan victory would be disastrous for the donks trying to prevent any action on Obamacare. In a low turnout special election like this, the passionate party almost always wins, and there may be some passion building against the donks following that report that 800,000 in NJ lost their insurance in the last few weeks. Don't get your hopes up, but there could be a nice surprise tonight.
Posted by: mugiwara at October 16, 2013 05:05 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 16, 2013 05:05 AM (SzAZ7)
Agreed. (The TP is not monolithic either.)
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 05:07 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 16, 2013 05:09 AM (fSKOI)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 16, 2013 09:05 AM (SzAZ7)
Global warming also causes hot and cool summers, cold and mild winters, and floods and droughts. Pretty amazing.
Posted by: tofer732 at October 16, 2013 05:09 AM (z3MpN)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 16, 2013 05:10 AM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 16, 2013 05:10 AM (fSKOI)
It is about the principle of the thing, not the actual results!
Posted by: John Boner at October 16, 2013 05:11 AM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 16, 2013 05:12 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 16, 2013 05:12 AM (fSKOI)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 09:03 AM (zF6Iw)
Agreed. Most of us are definately America Firsters, though. In my association with the TP legal immigration is a non-issue compared to illegal immigration. Though legally letting in the dregs of the Muslim world is a hot button issue. I think that is a fair article though for the most part, unlike the vast majority of the crap written about the TP.
Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2013 05:13 AM (xWW96)
Exactly.
This, more than anything else demonstrates that Christie has no ideological basis except "What Is Good For Chris Christie."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2013 05:13 AM (/kU/5)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 16, 2013 05:14 AM (4xMTq)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2013 09:13 AM (/kU/5)
That's why I support "Christie/Bush 2016!
Posted by: Karl Rover at October 16, 2013 05:15 AM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 16, 2013 05:15 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2013 05:16 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat ⚑ [/i] at October 16, 2013 05:16 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at October 16, 2013 05:16 AM (fSKOI)
Posted by: guy with the popcorn concession at October 16, 2013 05:17 AM (vAjpf)
Posted by: guy with the popcorn concession at October 16, 2013 09:17 AM (vAjpf)
That ain't a fight. Thats EOJ mopping the floor.
Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2013 05:18 AM (xWW96)
That's why I support "Christie/Bush 2016!
Posted by: Karl Rover at October 16, 2013 09:15 AM (XdnQT)
__________
I like the cut of your jib.
Posted by: Mitt Romney at October 16, 2013 09:16 AM (fSKOI)
Bob Dole gives that a big "thumbs up," IYKWIM.
Posted by: Bob Dole at October 16, 2013 05:18 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2013 05:19 AM (JRmiD)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 16, 2013 05:20 AM (V3kRK)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 16, 2013 05:20 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 16, 2013 09:14 AM (4xMTq)
His liberal Republican pontifications are bad enough, but it's beyond the pale when he tortures us with prepubescent screeching and hyper-emotive eye rolling and glad hands.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2013 05:20 AM (/kU/5)
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 05:21 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 16, 2013 07:10 AM (b/lt+)
Did you listen to his show, or are you being your typical blowhard self throwing mudpies.
Posted by: rightlysouthern at October 16, 2013 05:22 AM (uOxBm)
Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 16, 2013 05:22 AM (QAL0t)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 16, 2013 05:22 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2013 05:24 AM (W6bkf)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 16, 2013 05:25 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 05:25 AM (10H0T)
"Carrying matches is always a good idea, even if you don't smoke. You never know when someone might need a light."
I read that as "carrying machetes is always a good idea."
Well, it is, but that doesn't change the fact that I need caffeine.
Posted by: LibertarianJim (#letitburn) at October 16, 2013 05:26 AM (WDCYi)
Wow
Look at this just tweeted.
pic.twitter.com/5AFJEkr8mU
Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 09:25 AM (10H0T)
Can't link to it. What is it? (nice hash, BTW)
Posted by: Bob Dole at October 16, 2013 05:27 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Mainah at October 16, 2013 05:27 AM (659DL)
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2013 09:24 AM (W6bkf)
Kimberlin sues everybody. Get Stranahan on the case pro bono.
Posted by: joncelli at October 16, 2013 05:27 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 05:29 AM (10H0T)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 16, 2013 05:30 AM (fSKOI)
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Tuesday that stalled immigration reform would be a top priority once the fiscal crisis has been resolved.
"Once that's done, you know, the day after, I'm going to be pushing to say, call a vote on immigration reform," he told the Los Angeles affiliate of Spanish-language television network Univision.
Because he hasn't done enough damage to the country
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 16, 2013 05:30 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 16, 2013 05:30 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2013 05:31 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 16, 2013 05:31 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2013 05:32 AM (W6bkf)
Posted by: mugiwara at October 16, 2013 05:33 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 05:33 AM (10H0T)
Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2013 05:33 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Beagle at October 16, 2013 05:33 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2013 05:34 AM (W6bkf)
Posted by: Bob Dole at October 16, 2013 05:34 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Mainah at October 16, 2013 05:35 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 05:35 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 16, 2013 05:37 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 16, 2013 05:37 AM (jCQ+I)
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2013 05:38 AM (W6bkf)
Posted by: soothie at October 16, 2013 05:39 AM (7LKmg)
pic.twitter.com/5AFJEkr8mU
Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 09:25 AM (10H0T)
*
Damn..Ace was very concerned about this last year. This is how that creep operates, lawfare. Its potentially a serious situation for the smaller bloggers, hope they can mount a defense as a group. better yet, hope this shit get thrown out of court before the ink dries.
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 05:39 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 05:39 AM (/jHWN)
So basically, most repubs should go along to get along because some other repubs will stab them in the back and vote with the dems?
If I read the post right.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2013 05:41 AM (N8z9m)
Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 16, 2013 05:41 AM (QAL0t)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 16, 2013 05:41 AM (U2UQk)
Getting sued is no joke.
I've been through it twice. Both times I won and the suits were dismissed with prejudice, meaning they couldn't be brought up again.
Although the suits were totally baseless, brought by people who had an interest in delaying and harming my business, it still cost me personally serious money.
The first one I had to fight in Dallas, 1000 miles from my home. Depositions and meetings meant I had to travel there and the legal fees totaled over $200K.
The second one was local and even though we proved that the opposition had manufactured documents, when it was all done it wasn't cost effective to sue for expenses. Another $180K down the drain.
Both of these took over a year each and were exhausting. Discovery document searches take enormous amounts of time and money (which isn't included in my totals above).
It's nice that Ace has a lot of company on this thing and people to spread the cost around, but it's still a major pain in the ass.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2013 05:42 AM (u2a4R)
FU, Brett. )Posted by: guy with the popcorn concession at October 16, 2013 05:44 AM (pJB7q)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 05:46 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 16, 2013 05:46 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 16, 2013 05:46 AM (ObHhj)
CBD @ 235 - And his video selections suck, too!
Posted by: butch at October 16, 2013 05:47 AM (0APJ3)
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 05:50 AM (/jHWN)
Come on Dude...Black Democratium.
It's impervious to anything.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2013 05:50 AM (1fUOX)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 16, 2013 05:51 AM (X9npt)
This Jihad Watch article on the way political Islamists like CAIR manipulate the media is interesting in its own right. But the first two rules for manipulating the media are hilarious in any context:
1) The media expects you to do their work. Let them.
2) The media does little primary research of any kind.
Sadly for us though, the key to the strategy is being in a favored ideological niche with the right ethno-religious pedigree.
"Media in the US is very gullible."
Posted by: Beagle at October 16, 2013 05:51 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 16, 2013 05:53 AM (pJB7q)
283 Ace was very concerned about this last year.
"I seem to recall a thread where he mentioned the dude. It was all just information, Ace didn't make any sort of judgement. I watched closely, because when you're dealing with excrement, you don't want to step in it. He stepped carefully around it."
It doesn't matter how carefully he stepped around it, if he's named in the suit he's in for the long haul.
Everyone who is sued thinks as they read the initial papers that this is ridiculous, all I need is two minutes in front of a judge and he'll throw this out plus shoot the plaintive and his lawyer for bringing such a stupid action.
That's the way it should work, but it doesn't.
All the leeway is given to the plaintive in the beginning, so 99% of suits move forward. Then the money clock starts and it doesn't turn off for a long, long time.
Lot's of frivolous plaintives just try to find something in discovery that they can latch onto to justify the suit. It doesn't matter if it's baseless, it still costs you money.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2013 05:54 AM (u2a4R)
When the Politicos start wheeling in Pizza you know there is some thing a foot.
Why reminds me of the Pizza parties they had in Motown at their budget meetings..look what happened.
In Atlanta teachers had pizza parties to change the test scores of students to achieve college entrance and increased Federal subsidies..
I tell you when people other than teens have Pizza parties , there is trouble a foot..
Posted by: Sgt Slaughter at October 16, 2013 05:56 AM (3GuQx)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 16, 2013 05:56 AM (MBqvE)
Posted by: Sgt Slaughter at October 16, 2013 05:58 AM (3GuQx)
Unless I'm missing something, it sounds to me like the "moderates" abandoned Boehner in the end this time, because they couldn't stand voting for the "smallness" of the Vitter amendment (aka, having Congress and its staff live by the rules of the law they wrote and passed).
Posted by: The Deuce at October 16, 2013 06:07 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 16, 2013 06:09 AM (xhupI)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at October 16, 2013 06:18 AM (6M2nS)
There is no possible way for Lonagan to win.
The fraud machines of Newark, Jersey City, Elizabeth, Paterson will deliver the votes.
Turn out in some precients will be as high as 110% with 99.9% going to Booker.
Lonagan will win the Republican counties in the NW but that's not going to be enough to overcome the fraud.
It also does not help the the RNC did nothing for Lonagan.
Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2013 06:26 AM (igI2x)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 16, 2013 08:45 AM (vd7A8)
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Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 03:00 AM (/jHWN)