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— Gabriel Malor

Day 2.

In the history of clumsy attempts to use Washington Monument syndrome, Obama's has to be the most clumsy. Here is the National Park Services' excuse for barricading the World War II Memorial: lack of CPR-trained staff and lack of maintenance crews. Our WWII heroes aren't letting him get away with it.

Yesterday, it was veterans from Iowa and Mississippi. (Read about the Mississippi group's homecoming, courtesy BenK). Today, veterans from Missouri and from Chicago will arrive. If you're in the D.C. area and happen to be not working, hie thee down to the Mall and talk to these guys. The Missouri groups are going to be there around 11am.

Tomorrow, it'll be a group of veterans from the Quad Cities, who have also declined to be turned away by Obama.

So where is all this going? Today, the House will again try and pass its mini-CRs on specific items. These three mini-CRs were defeated yesterday, but the House is reportedly going to take a second swing at them, this time under a rule allowing a majority vote. Sen. Reid says he won't take them up even if the House passes them.

House Republicans are getting the sense that this whole thing could stretch on until we hit the debt ceiling impasse around October 17.

Â“WeÂ’re in this fight. This is the moment. We all talk about doing something for our kids and our grandkids. If you want to do something for them, now is the time. We have to work together and win this fight,Â” Boehner told members, according to a Republican in the room.

I still think this was poor strategy (and poor logic, too), that the debt ceiling fight was the way to go, and all the insults in the world haven't changed my mind. Well, it's looking pretty likely we'll get to try both! Allah had a noteworthy non-Eeyore post yesterday looking at political winners and losers in this fight. The winners: Sen. Paul and Govs. Christie, Walker, and Bush. I'd add Gov. Jindal to that.

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Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 02:56 AM | Comments (198)
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1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Wednesday, October 02, 2013. On this day in 1950 the Peanuts comic strip debuted. The strip ended Feb 14, 2000 but is still being printed as "reruns". The strip ended because Charles Schulz died on Feb 12, 2000 at the age of 77. He was doing what he liked, and let me tell you young whippersnappers, that is damned rare. Now get off my lawn.

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 02:58 AM (zZbNF)

2 The House of Representatives tried but failed to pass three emergency funding bills Tuesday, amid much political finger pointing by both parties in the wake of the potentially drawn out stalemate over the budget.
The three measures were aimed at reopening parks and monuments, continuing veteransÂ’ benefits and allowing the municipal government of the District of Columbia to function.

And here is why they failed to pass:

The failed measures were treated by House GOP leaders as suspension bills, meaning they needed a two thirds majority to pass.

It would not have made it by Hairy the Pederast anyway. They have no intention of doing anything until they milk the MFM for all its worth. And why the fk or we still funding the DC "Municipal" government? Didn't they become a "city" to call their own shots? Don't they have that non-voting scrunt who is paid to sit on committees and rant constantly against Republicans and for communism?

And WTF strategy is calling them something that needed 2/3 vote to pass? It means the GOP leadership did not want it to pass.

http://tinyurl.com/pvl8myc

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 02:58 AM (zZbNF)

3 The Chinese plan to start exporting their new fighter. It "looks" remarkably like an F/A-18. Thank Bill and Hillary.

http://tinyurl.com/nw9hedc

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 02:58 AM (zZbNF)

4 Corrupt EPA agent pleads guilty then takes the 5th in committee hearing. Some WTF going on here. I think I am seeing some more black helicopters.

http://tinyurl.com/nb2htkz

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 02:59 AM (zZbNF)

5 The Obamanite idiots are still practicing the Stalin "big lie" strategy as the new DOE head calls the Solyndra loan program a terrific success. How many alphabets will cover this? I suspect his meaning on that was based on the real goal of the program, which is to reward cronies and campaign contributors. That has been a huge success.

http://tinyurl.com/p4cnh9u

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 02:59 AM (zZbNF)

6 TX man shoots and kills a home invasion intruder and TX cops shoot and kill him. This story is bizarre and I suspect there is more to it that we will never hear about.

http://tinyurl.com/ptq4nwd

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 02:59 AM (zZbNF)

7 Must read article from the liberal CSM. I was struck by two things here. First read the groups who are exempted from Obamacare. It will make your blood boil. Second look at the bald statement that if you have no insurance you are responsible for all your healthcare costs.

Yes, I am sure that will work right up until the first illegal migrant hit the ER for help with the flu or to deliver a baby. Note that illegals are exempted. Of course, that may be good because they would certainly qualify for "free" insurance.

http://tinyurl.com/qcyck3e

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:00 AM (zZbNF)

8 Hairy the Pederast campaign contributor gets two years in jail for massive amounts of illegal contributions. I am sure this is the tip of the iceberg and it also shows why we will never clean up the shitholes in DC. 2 years? He gets less time than Martha Stewart got in that kangaroo court.

http://tinyurl.com/l2kodgo

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:00 AM (zZbNF)

9 We need a national conversation about scissors. A man described in this NBC article as a homeless Texan with psychological problems goes on a rampage in an upper Westside NYC park stabbing people with a pair of scissors. The victims include a 1-year-old toddler. Thank you ACLU. BTW, the park was not a scissors free zone.

http://tinyurl.com/ndaxb2t

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:00 AM (zZbNF)

10 McShitty demonstrates once again that he is a senile old fart who should resign and allow Jan Brewer to appoint a new Senator. Note that The Hill is glad to give him press. The MFM loves them some "Mavericky" shithead.

http://tinyurl.com/ppnmcyc

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:01 AM (zZbNF)

11 Is Allah said it , it has to be gospel/

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 02, 2013 03:01 AM (R8hU8)

12 The Hill also loves to give King (DIABLO-NY) some press.

http://tinyurl.com/odtp7ca

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:01 AM (zZbNF)

13 And speaking of press for the DIABLOs and RINOs there are a bunch in the House who are ready to give Obama and Reid everything they want and fold. If we had a real leader he/she would strip them of all committee assignments. The Hill calls them "Centrist Republicans". I guess they are tired of the term "moderate" which just means liberal. (More later)

http://tinyurl.com/ljzj7u6

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:01 AM (zZbNF)

14 Yet another article that shows why the "war on drugs" needs to be eliminated and the feds KILL the DEA and fire everyone in it. Not only has it turned our national and local police into a militarized Gestapo but also it is a massive failure.

http://tinyurl.com/lhemvuh

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:01 AM (zZbNF)

15 Should we be requiring 9 year olds to be typists? Common Core does. I don't think this is healthy, much less needed, and when we start getting children with carpal tunnel syndrome will we throw the assholes that developed this bullshit in jail for torture and child abuse?

http://tinyurl.com/qchd24e

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:02 AM (zZbNF)

16 Jacksonville Airport evacuated due to bomb scare. Two packages removed and two men arrested. More terrorist Muzzies from Russia?

http://tinyurl.com/ottweox

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:02 AM (zZbNF)

17 Ben Carlson targeted by the IRS now. It is seriously time to fire and jail senior IRS criminals.

http://tinyurl.com/odmcpbd

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:02 AM (zZbNF)

18 That government "shutdown" doesn't appear to be impacting DC "Municipal" mismanagement as they declare October "Islamic Heritage Month". I guess they are going to celebrate years of mass murder, pedophilia, and female genital mutilation. And it is being paid for by taxpayers all over the country. Add to the list of things to change in the Art V convention a move of the nation's capitol to Oklahoma in a two mile radius circle and include provisions that prohibit anyone living inside that boundary. Transfer the existing DC boundary to MD since they are already a massive Communist shithole. And get that ugly scrunt out of the House by forbidding any representation from the capitol.

http://tinyurl.com/oapb9ho

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:03 AM (zZbNF)

19 Detroit has defaulted on $600M in unsecured bonds. No word that I can find on who is the major holder of these bonds so I suspect it is the US government taxpayers. I did find that the major portion are what is known as voter approved "millage tax" bonds which are supposed to be used for specific purposes which means this will wind up in court.

http://tinyurl.com/osagmaa

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:03 AM (zZbNF)

20 Spencer Bachus (RINO-AL) will not seek reelection after ethics probe, which cleared him. It shows you what a farce these ethics investigations are. And yes he is a RINO. His ACU rating for the last two years is in the low 80s. He will not be missed.

http://tinyurl.com/pufk8mx

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:03 AM (zZbNF)

21 Biden leadership at Dilbert today

http://tinyurl.com/fhn

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:04 AM (zZbNF)

22 US District judge denies halt of MD's new illegal gun control laws while civil suits progress through the system. She is a Clinton appointee.

http://tinyurl.com/puoagxf

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:04 AM (zZbNF)

23 The notion, is to remove that arrow from their quiver, but they will not allow that, 'you must rub raw the source of their discontent,' and simultaneously not point out the source,

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at October 02, 2013 03:04 AM (Jsiw/)

24 all the insults in the world haven't changed my mind Gonna have to try harder.

Posted by: Andy Reid [/i] at October 02, 2013 03:04 AM (U2UQk)

25 Byron York is also joining the crowd of RINO supporters like The Hill. Says only 30 "conservatives" are preventing the rest of the Republicans from joining Democrats to sell us out. He explains how that can happen here. Note that he says that the Democrats are all together with their intransigence.

http://tinyurl.com/n7nj4yb

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:04 AM (zZbNF)

26 C. W. Cooke on the history of shutdowns.

http://tinyurl.com/nf44jk3

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:04 AM (zZbNF)

27 So "non-essential" government services have been curtailed. How does one determine which ones are "essential" government services you ask?

Simple- the ones that are run by Obama campaign donors.

http://bit.ly/18rmkqh

The utter predictability of this shit is really starting to annoy me...

Oh, and good morning!

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 02, 2013 03:05 AM (OtQXp)

28 More Gestapo-like police actions. This one in MI.

http://tinyurl.com/osvfoka

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:05 AM (zZbNF)

29 Gov. Bush was a winner? Still trying to jam that crap sandwich down our throats, aren't you?

Posted by: Tofer732 at October 02, 2013 03:05 AM (6DkSW)

30 To a kid my age, nothing in the cartoon world surpassed Peanuts. I read some years back that Charles Schultz, however, was not a very nice or happy man, even to his family. It was surprising to me.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 02, 2013 03:05 AM (XB5Ak)

31 The USPS defaulted on debt payment of $5.2B owed the treasury last night and it has nothing to do with the government shutdown. This is money owed over retiree benefits. That old bugaboo just keeps cropping up doesn't it. The biggest problem the USPS has is that congress will not let them do the things they need to do to cut costs.

http://tinyurl.com/o7ca34s

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:06 AM (zZbNF)

32 Kindle Daily Deals

http://tinyurl.com/nsqx6y4

That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:06 AM (zZbNF)

33 So will the Park Police arrest today's Honor Flight veterans?

With Sheriff Gaylord and Deputy Joe, I expect them to shoot themselves in the foot and try to arrest. For trespassing. Or they will hide behind the lie of 'not having CPR trained personnel' like they did yesterday.

Scum, lying stinking despicable pond scum the lot of them.

The Honor Flight web-site is here: http://www.honorflight.org/

Next time the Mississippi veterans travel will be Nov. 5th.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 02, 2013 03:06 AM (sSHNB)

34 Morning Vic and whoever else stumbled in. The important thing for the House now is to continue to pass bills that show they are trying to find the government and that the Dems in the Senate and SCOAMT are the ones who are keeping it shut down. Again, Boehner should hold a press conference every day detailing what bills they are voting on and how many bills to fund the government have been refused by Reid,

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at October 02, 2013 03:07 AM (d7H2D)

35 I'm still waiting for someone to give me a cogent explanation for how any of this can turn into an achievable net win for our side. What circumstances would make the Democrats fold?

If the endgame is just unconditional surrender by the Republicans three weeks or so from now (seriously, give me a plausible scenario that doesn't end that way), we might as well just fold now and minimize the damage.

If you were dumb enough to bet on a pair of 3s in the first place, you don't get a consolation prize for calling all the other guy's bets until he shows his full house.

Posted by: suedenim at October 02, 2013 03:07 AM (rr3dQ)

36 In the history of clumsy attempts to use Washington Monument syndrome, Obama's has to be the most clumsy. Here is the National Park Services' excuse for barricading the World War II Memorial: lack of CPR-trained staff and lack of maintenance crews. Our WWII heroes aren't letting him get away with it.

Just more of their Stalinist "big lie" techniques, and like always, thanks to the Stalinist MFM, they will get away with it. Our current news media has become Pravda of the 50s and 60s.

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:08 AM (zZbNF)

37 Burn all of it down. Then make the rubble bounce. Don't need any of it.

Posted by: backhoe at October 02, 2013 03:09 AM (ULH4o)

38 These three mini-CRs were defeated yesterday, but the House is reportedly going to take a second swing at them, this time under a rule allowing a majority vote

As I said in comment #2, that strategy made no sense at all. Has anybody got any idea why they did it that way?

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:09 AM (zZbNF)

39 DAY 330 1,133 to go (1,204 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:09 AM (WjLUf)

40 Ok, now Gabe is starting to conflate disagreement with insult. In unrelated news, I understand that tomorrow he is planning to state that Republicans need to capitulate "for the children."

Posted by: Boone at October 02, 2013 03:11 AM (tIyK2)

41 The problem, Gabriel, is that it isn't that this isn't the fight, nor is it the only fight. The problem is is that we (the GOP establishment) NEVER fight. We should be making every fucking thing into a fight and using CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES as our weapons and message.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:12 AM (WjLUf)

42 Occupy DC monuments.

Posted by: redenzo at October 02, 2013 03:12 AM (vx61Q)

43 Should we be requiring 9 year olds to be typists? Common Core does. I don't think this is healthy, much less needed, and when we start getting children with carpal tunnel syndrome will we throw the assholes that developed this bullshit in jail for torture and child abuse? I was going to disagree with you at first, then I read the article. Typing a page or two for nine year olds *is* unrealistic. Knowing the keyboard is good. I suspect the logic is that handwriting is too arduous to grade. Programing a computer to asses a piece of typewritten writing is fairly simple. Big Government loves Big Data. It loves to hire people to massage Big Data. Big Government loves Bigger Government.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 02, 2013 03:13 AM (U2UQk)

44 Have any of you read that Kindle Daily Deal sci-fi book: "City of Truth" by James Morrow? It sounds promising. Truth reigns supreme in the city-state of Veritas. Not even politicians lie, and weirdly frank notices aboundÂ—such as warning: this elevator maintained by people who hate their jobs: ride at your own risk. In this dystopia of mandatory candor, every preadolescent citizen is ruthlessly conditioned, through a Skinnerian ordeal called a Â“brainburn,Â” to speak truthfully under all circumstances. Jack Sperry wouldnÂ’t dream of questioning the norms of Veritas; heÂ’s happy with his life and his respectable job as a Â“deconstructionist,Â” destroying Â“mendaciousÂ” works of artÂ—relics from a less honest era. But when his adored son, Toby, falls gravely ill, the truth becomes JackÂ’s greatest enemy. Somehow our hero must overcome his brainburn and attempt to heal his child with beautiful lies. Alternately hilarious and moving, City of Truth thoughtfully explores the pitfalls inherent in any attempt to engineer a perfect society.

Posted by: BornLib at October 02, 2013 03:13 AM (zpNwC)

45 I love how the French Republicans here want to surrender before we even start to fight.

The marxists that are in the Democrat party would like to thank you for your continued spinelessness.

Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at October 02, 2013 03:16 AM (QBQcg)

46 Last night, Levin spent considerable time reading William F. Buckley's first mission statement from the 1955 first edition of "National Review." It is surprisingly timely considering not only the leftists but people like Gabe McCain.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:18 AM (WjLUf)

47 I'm still waiting for someone to give me a cogent explanation for how any of this can turn into an achievable net win for our side. What circumstances would make the Democrats fold? Posted by: suedenim When the government is forced to actually cut expenditures..... not the growth rate of expenditures..... later this month when the debt ceiling hits in order to meet its debt obligations.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 02, 2013 03:18 AM (9DDfG)

48 I believe the strategy with yesterdays bills was to get democrats on record as voting against funding things that most sane people would be for, funding the va. Now they bring it back under a different rule and send it to the senate for Harry reid and the dems to be on record as voting against the va. I think boenher is going scorched earth and digging in.

Posted by: kreplach at October 02, 2013 03:18 AM (IyKYr)

49 I'm trying to wrap my mind around the concept of "winners and losers in this fight."

So governors and ex-governors are winners because... what?

Oh, this is about the 2016 Presidential race.

News flash, Gabe. That's not the fight anyone else is having. Just you and your fellow political fantasy league players.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2013 03:19 AM (BeSEI)

50 43 Posted by: SchrÃ¯Â¿Â½dinger's cat at October 02, 2013 07:13 AM (U2UQk)

My take on the article was that it was a "typing class" with a timed test of typing a one page article at the lower level and a two page at higher levels, but both in grammar school.

When I was in school (yes the dark ages) people did not have typing class until high school and it was optional. I think children at the ages described in that article are still developing in their bones and muscles and are much too young to be doing structured typing classes.

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:19 AM (zZbNF)

51 Don't they need to read and rite and 'rithmetic, first.

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at October 02, 2013 03:19 AM (Jsiw/)

52 The whole fucking thing was poorly thought out, a ham-handed mess. The offer to fund it while removing special exemptions should have been the FIRST fucking offer ...BOOM.

Because...1. people are stupid. 2. People watch the MFM - stupid ^2. 3. First impressions stick.

This is a fight worth having, but on our terms and with winning hands. We'll see if the latest offer gets through the anti-Republican surge in the media and build some momentum. If we had been talking special exemptions from day 1, this would have been a win already. And with no exemptions, lots of democrat allies would bail on this thing.

Posted by: Tocquevillian at October 02, 2013 03:20 AM (iuY0Y)

53 From the land of Freaking Can't Sleep comes: http://bit.ly/15KZbBj Nice Try, Obama Also, why doesn't bit.ly default to focus on the one and only input field? Because potato, that's why.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 02, 2013 03:20 AM (qyfb5)

54 Is it SMOD yet?

Posted by: sinalco at October 02, 2013 03:20 AM (7580N)

55 46 It is surprisingly timely considering not only the leftists but people like Gabe McCain.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 07:18 AM (WjLUf)

Now that truly is an insult.

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:20 AM (zZbNF)

56 So all these governors are the big winners according to AllahPuke? BFD, governors generally make better Presidential candidates than dipshits from the Senate like the JEF and McRINO. As long as we don't get Fat Fuck or Jebby...

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 02, 2013 03:21 AM (pgFQF)

I still think this was poor strategy (and poor logic, too), that the debt ceiling fight was the way to go, and all the insults in the world haven't changed my mind.

Perhaps you should have said that yesterday, instead of the snarky little tweet you deigned to bless we poor serfs with.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 03:21 AM (zF6Iw)

58 Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 07:09 AM (zZbNF) Maybe they wanted another "Democrat Shutdown" talking point?

Posted by: Boone at October 02, 2013 03:21 AM (tIyK2)

Good Morning Morons. Today is Wednesday, October 02, 2013. On this day in 1950 the Peanuts comic strip debuted.

Yeah, but it couldn't hold a candle to The Katzenjammer Kids, right Vic?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 03:22 AM (zF6Iw)

60 I still think this was poor strategy (and poor logic, too), that the debt ceiling fight was the way to go, and all the insults in the world haven't changed my mind. You insult people here and on twitter and then whine when you get it back.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 03:22 AM (d0L02)

61 43 -

Not everything has to be about politics. In this age, I'm not sure anyone really needs to know how to handwrite. You can survive in our society without it. No typing skills though? You won't get very far without that.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2013 03:22 AM (BeSEI)

62 47 I'm still waiting for someone to give me a cogent explanation for how any of this can turn into an achievable net win for our side. What circumstances would make the Democrats fold? Posted by: suedenim When the government is forced to actually cut expenditures..... not the growth rate of expenditures..... later this month when the debt ceiling hits in order to meet its debt obligations. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 02, 2013 07:18 AM (9DDfG) You fight because of principle, not because you think you have a sure win. We have to be in this for the long haul. I don't see how Obamacare gets dismantled let alone delayed even for a year. But you have got to get out there and do what's right for the gains you get now and into the future. Laying down, covering up your shrinking testicles and pleading for mercy as you get stomped is no way to win a fight.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:23 AM (WjLUf)

63 When I was in school (yes the dark ages) people did not have typing class until high school and it was optional. Same here. Eleventh grade class, I think. On 'state of the art' IBM Selectric's. A couple years later I was writing programs in Fortran and Cobol and my lack of typing skills didn't hurt me none.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 02, 2013 03:23 AM (U2UQk)

64 I have no problem with 9 year olds typing two pages. I learned basic keyboarding in third grade (private school) and from then on usually typed anything longer than a page. I think it's much more physically and mentally taxing to expect 9 year olds to write, in their neatest final-draft longhand, a two-page composition, like one of my kids' teacher insisted on. Maybe they should start teaching phone/tablet typing...

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 02, 2013 03:23 AM (kKKEV)

65 59 Good Morning Morons. Today is Wednesday, October 02, 2013. On this day in 1950 the Peanuts comic strip debuted. Yeah, but it couldn't hold a candle to The Katzenjammer Kids, right Vic? Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 07:22 AM (zF6Iw) I'm a Krazy Kat and Ignatz fan, myself. The idea of hurling a brick at a girl's head is orgasmic, especially if their feminazi's.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:24 AM (WjLUf)

66 58 Maybe they wanted another "Democrat Shutdown" talking point?

Posted by: Boone at October 02, 2013 07:21 AM (tIyK2)

It will get just as much air time with the MFM as the rest of it, ie none, and if mentioned at all it will be slanted to make the Republicans look like idiots and live baby eaters.

I don't see how Boner and company think they can beet the MFM at the PR game no matter what stuff they do.

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:25 AM (zZbNF)

67 60 -

He's giving you a window view into his head. Just take it for what it is. The key concept here is not that he thinks people who disagree with him are insulting, it's that he's not going to allow new information to sway him.

Closed mindedness is a terrible disease. Very common one though.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2013 03:25 AM (BeSEI)

68 63 When I was in school (yes the dark ages) people did not have typing class until high school and it was optional. Same here. Eleventh grade class, I think. On 'state of the art' IBM Selectric's. A couple years later I was writing programs in Fortran and Cobol and my lack of typing skills didn't hurt me none. Posted by: SchrÃ¶dinger's cat at October 02, 2013 07:23 AM (U2UQk) We had typing all through JHS ('72-'74). I remember frantically trying to keep up as the teacher played that awful "Popcorn" (NOT the James Brown tune) in the background and you had to keep in time with it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:26 AM (WjLUf)

69 59 Yeah, but it couldn't hold a candle to The Katzenjammer Kids, right Vic?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 07:22 AM (zF6Iw)

I never did like that strip.

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:26 AM (zZbNF)

70 I think they should be training 9-year-olds to use the skills they will really need in the future, such as scavenging old-world technology from the ruins, building stills to purify water, and growing food in bad soil.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 02, 2013 03:27 AM (qyfb5)

71 67 60 - He's giving you a window view into his head. Just take it for what it is. The key concept here is not that he thinks people who disagree with him are insulting, it's that he's not going to allow new information to sway him. Closed mindedness is a terrible disease. Very common one though. Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2013 07:25 AM (BeSEI) Barack Hussein Malor.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:28 AM (WjLUf)

72 Will the MSM ignore the WWII Memorial blockade or try to blame it on the Tea Party?

Posted by: forest at October 02, 2013 03:28 AM (stMuz)

73 70 -

Don't forget battling raygun firing machines.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2013 03:28 AM (BeSEI)

74 Hey Vic; See my 71!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:30 AM (WjLUf)

75 @66 They don't have to beat the mfm. They now have democrats on record as voting against veterans. This will be useful in 2014. They can bring back the bills under a different rule thay only needs a majority and send it to the senate so then you have the pederast and his jackels on record as being against veterans. Rinse and repeat. I think boenhers all in. We'll see if he can hold fast.

Posted by: kreplach at October 02, 2013 03:30 AM (IyKYr)

76 How can the GOP win without giant paper mÃ¢chÃ© heads? I miss those

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 02, 2013 03:30 AM (ZfBzk)

77 Handwriting (especially cursive) is harder on the developing hands/fine motor skills than typing. One of the most common 504 accomodations is to allow kids with fine motor issues to type instead of write (they also use scribes, but most kids who are self conscious prefer computers, and it's cheaper than paying an an aide)

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 02, 2013 03:30 AM (kKKEV)

78 68 We had typing all through JHS ('72-'74). I remember frantically trying to keep up as the teacher played that awful "Popcorn" (NOT the James Brown tune) in the background and you had to keep in time with it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 07:26 AM (WjLUf)

Do you mean that crazy moog synthesizer tune? I have that on my computer and I would hate to have to type to it.

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:30 AM (zZbNF)

79 35 I'm still waiting for someone to give me a cogent explanation for how any of this can turn into an achievable net win for our side. What circumstances would make the Democrats fold? A long-term shutdown will most probably have minimal effect on GOP constituencies but a greater effect on the Democrats. And let's remember we are pursuing Gabe's 'sensible' approach of a one-year delay. And after that, a CR passed with no exemptions for anyone, a very popular position across the political spectrum. Democrats are fatally overconfident. They believe they cannot lose under any circumstances, and it is making them do crazy things like shutter the WW2 memorial.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 02, 2013 03:31 AM (uhAkr)

80 65 I have seriously never heard of that and I've been reading the funny papers for twenty five years now

Posted by: BornLib at October 02, 2013 03:31 AM (zpNwC)

I'm a Krazy Kat and Ignatz fan, myself. The idea of hurling a brick at a girl's head is orgasmic, especially if their feminazi's.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 07:24 AM (WjLUf)

I've never cared for Krazy Kat, though I give WR Hearst props for continuing to run the strip even when his papers wanted to cut it loose. Herriman did a strip before Kat called Stumble Inn, about the crazy lodgers of a hotel, which I think is very funny. The first collection of the strips is coming out later this year.

I liked Peanuts right up until the "Red Baron" sequences, which is where I think the strip jumped the shark. To me, the first five or so years were the best. Pogo had about ten good years, IMO.

Early Mutt and Jeff, Thimble Theater / Popeye and Polly and Her Pals are also faves of mine.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 03:32 AM (zF6Iw)

82 "I'm trying to wrap my mind around the concept of "winners and losers in this fight." So governors and ex-governors are winners because... what? Oh, this is about the 2016 Presidential race. News flash, Gabe. That's not the fight anyone else is having. Just you and your fellow political fantasy league players. " This!

Posted by: Andy at October 02, 2013 03:32 AM (0ZQCB)

83 79 Do you mean that crazy moog synthesizer tune? I have that on my computer and I would hate to have to type to it. Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 07:30 AM (zZbNF) Yup: Dum-dum-dum-dum, da-da dum...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:33 AM (WjLUf)

84 BION the Katzenjammer Kids is still in print in many papers

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:34 AM (zZbNF)

85 Snuffy Smith and Barney Google (with the goo-goo-googly-goo eyes [Google glass?!])

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:34 AM (WjLUf)

86 Somebody has to be the adult in the room. http://bit.ly/17z7rUR

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 02, 2013 03:35 AM (qyfb5)

87 Walk down the street, I bet 6 in 10 people under 30 have no idea some of the government has shut down.

Posted by: redenzo at October 02, 2013 03:36 AM (vx61Q)

88 Heh. Gabe says the insults had no effect, but you'll notice he dialed the sneer way back today.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2013 03:36 AM (T6c9C)

89 For those not familiar with what we are talking about with that "popcorn song" this is the album here:

http://tinyurl.com/pbm49nq

Sorry they did not have a version with a preview (or an MP3)

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:37 AM (zZbNF)

90 88 Walk down the street, I bet 6 in 10 people under 30 have no idea some of the government has shut down. Posted by: redenzo at October 02, 2013 07:36 AM (vx61Q) Lib wifey, a Phd no less, asked if we still get mail delivery. Bless her pointy head.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:37 AM (WjLUf)

91 Thanks Vic ( and Gabe ). My take is, this is about fighting back. If the GOP didn't fight on the CR to get whatever they can regarding some relief on Obamacare, the base would be livid. I know because count me in the base that has been livid since 2010.

2nd, to say the real fight should be on the debt limit, Obama is playing scorched earth here and would have no problem either defaulting ( because he knows not what he is doing OR wants to cause the damage ) OR I think it entirely possible for Barry to just start doing more shit illegally and force the GOP into a Constitutional crisis if they try to call him on it.

He is actively daring the GOP to impeach him. I think he wants it. He wants all this division and the rankor. Barry is a community organizer surrounded by other radicals.

The GOP is in a largely shitty position.. might as well fight back and take the hit for being principled.

Posted by: Yip at October 02, 2013 03:37 AM (/jHWN)

92 I started keyboarding in 6th grade, away back in the dark ages of the mid '80s. That was the first year our school had PCs. Every elementary student, except kindergarteners, had to do the same. Our superintendent felt that having solid computing skills was going to be what students would need to get jobs and made it mandatory. At 40, and as someone who spends all day on a PC typing, I am grateful for his way of thinking and still don't suffer at all from carpal tunnel. We also did have to take typing in A9th grade on those giant IBM Selectrics too. A, S, D, F, J, K, L, ;...

Posted by: Pforeman at October 02, 2013 03:38 AM (G/OAv)

93 For a very interesting you tube, google or bing " Paul Harvey on If I were the devil". He made it in 1965, but it is so clearly what is happening now that it is scary.

Posted by: Chilling the most at October 02, 2013 03:38 AM (gxtMZ)

94 For those, like me, who desperately miss Calvin and Hobbes, GoComics reruns it. It's a nice way to lose a few days of your life since you can start from the very first strip and read to the end.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 02, 2013 03:38 AM (Gk3SS)

95 It'd be awesome to be in the same foxhole with Gabe. Bullets would be whizzing by, I'd be returning fire, enemy and he'd be sitting on his helmet bitching about how we got to the point of fighting in the first place.

Posted by: Andy at October 02, 2013 03:38 AM (0ZQCB)

96 If you were dumb enough to bet on a pair of 3s in the first place, you don't get a consolation prize for calling all the other guy's bets until he shows his full house.

Posted by: suedenim at October 02, 2013 07:07 AM (rr3dQ)

I won over 500$ sunday when my 3's made a set and cracked Aces on the flop and beat another guy with junk representing an Ace high flush.

Sometimes you make your set, and, yes, sometimes the other guy isn't bluffing, either. But you can't win if you don't play. Waiting around for a straight flush because you think the other guy always has a full house just means you have lost before you ever began. And in this game, you have to play every round. The blinds and antes are high and getting higher.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 02, 2013 03:39 AM (O3XRD)

BION the Katzenjammer Kids is still in print in many papers

Really? That strip was the epitome of the one-joke comic. It should have been killed years ago.

There are a couple of early Beetle Bailey collections out covering the strip's origins as a college comic (dear old Rockview U), through Beetle getting drafted during the Korean War.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 03:40 AM (zF6Iw)

98 Man, what's with the Gabe bashing Andy?

Posted by: buzzion at October 02, 2013 03:40 AM (LI48c)

99 88. Not even I bet 3 out of 5

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 02, 2013 03:40 AM (ZfBzk)

100
I'm surprised Vic missed this story:

Bad sex change operation lead to euthanasia. In Belgium, of course. SFW, Telegraph.

http://tinyurl.com/qz8bun4

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 02, 2013 03:40 AM (0IhFx)

101 And is the GOP prepared to keep the Government shut down through the end of the year over the CR and debt ceiling... because the narrative is Obama and Reid aren't negotiating and strangely, it's the GOP's fault if they don't concede. Heh. Nice how that works out.

Posted by: Yip at October 02, 2013 03:41 AM (/jHWN)

102 Sometimes, you just have to find opportunities to laugh, even if it's at other people. http://bit.ly/19Y3Igy

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 02, 2013 03:41 AM (qyfb5)

103 I think boenher is going scorched earth and digging in. Posted by: kreplach at October 02, 2013 07:18 AM

I don't usually laugh this early in the morning, but will make an exception this time....

I am still in awe of whatever Democrat operative set this campaign in motion. The lockstep precision of lib posters on every forum attacking Republicans for their destructive actions rivals the blitzkrieg for poetry in motion.

It's amazing that they bother. When Boner needs a ciggy or a drink, Republicans will self-immolate. All they have to stand on is principle, and that doesn't mean shit these days.

If one person says "here's your free shit" and the other says "you don't get anything from us," who you gonna listen to? Be honest, now....

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 02, 2013 03:41 AM (kaGpp)

104 101 Bad sex change operation lead to euthanasia. In Belgium, of course. SFW, Telegraph.

http://tinyurl.com/qz8bun4

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 02, 2013 07:40 AM (0IhFx)

I didn't miss it, just didn't think it was "newsworthy".

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:42 AM (zZbNF)

105 Posted by: suedenim at October 02, 2013 07:07 AM (rr3dQ)

PS - it's interesting that you think fighting Obamacare using the constitutional power of the purse is a pair of 3's.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 02, 2013 03:42 AM (O3XRD)

106 The JEF would have no trouble defaulting on the debt because it would diminish the country, which has been his objection all along. The credit rating of the country has already taken a hit under this fuckhead, although it was well under way thanks to Rove's compassionate conservatism free spending Repukes.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 02, 2013 03:43 AM (pgFQF)

107 My Dad used to put a motorcycle helmet on his grandmother and sing Barney Goo Goo to her. He was 10, she had dementia. She loved it. I always wondered where the Barney came from. Thanks JJ.

Posted by: Pforeman at October 02, 2013 03:43 AM (G/OAv)

108 99. You think gabe would remember who is the gun guru on this site

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 02, 2013 03:44 AM (ZfBzk)

109
I didn't miss it, just didn't think it was "newsworthy".

Newsworthy in that eventually euthanasia is going to become a thing here, now that we're saddled with Obamacare, and anything that promises to cut costs is going to be embraced.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 02, 2013 03:44 AM (0IhFx)

110 I still do not understand why it is that defund was teh stoopid but delay was genius and now here we are with the House united around delay and we have a shutdown.

Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2013 03:45 AM (4+AaH)

111 Had the US Army held out just a little longer, they might have actually staved off the surrender at Corregidor and the fall of the Philippines. Turns out the Japs were in as rough or even worse shape physically and logistically as the Americans. But FDR and Macarthur gave up way too quickly. A lesson to be learned, perhaps.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:45 AM (WjLUf)

112 99 Man, what's with the Gabe bashing Andy?

Posted by: buzzion at October 02, 2013 07:40 AM (LI48c)

The Other McCain used a different tactic: http://scoamf.us/Fj

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 02, 2013 03:46 AM (O3XRD)

113 >> the debt ceiling fight was the way to go The way to go for what? Defunding/delaying Obamacare? Oh, yeah, that'd work. Right up until the point that the left and the MSM (BIRM) start screaming about "default" and we found ourselves in the same place we are now except with even less leverage.

Posted by: Andy at October 02, 2013 03:46 AM (0ZQCB)

114 108 Posted by: Pforeman at October 02, 2013 07:43 AM (G/OAv) I remember my dad humming that tune when I was a kid (sniffle, tears).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:46 AM (WjLUf)

115 @104 Don't know what your on about, I am for once applauding boenher for seeming to dig in his heels and fight. And the term scorched earth is as old as old can be.

Posted by: kreplach at October 02, 2013 03:46 AM (1YJrc)

116 110 Newsworthy in that eventually euthanasia is going to become a thing here, now that we're saddled with Obamacare, and anything that promises to cut costs is going to be embraced.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 02, 2013 07:44 AM (0IhFx)

When the first death comes from Obamacare and the "death panel" that Sarah Palin warned about then that will be newsworthy. Which is why there is a 75% probability that we will never hear about it even when combing through approx. 50 news sites like I do almost every morning.

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:47 AM (zZbNF)

117 I really think we're at a turning point. The outlandish language the democrats in office and especially OUR President ( supposed to be for the whole fucking country) has been beyond childish and irresponsible. The insults and the rancor makes the environment to negotiate in good faith on anything impossible. How does the President walk back talking about Tea Party conservatives as terrorists or idiots?

He is doing what he thinks he knows works with great peril for comity and social trust going forward. And I blame all the idiot democrats that voted this asshole in despite all the reasons to see he was a fraud and a radical... and they did it twice.

Posted by: Yip at October 02, 2013 03:48 AM (/jHWN)

118 Vic, Just want to thank you again for you daily news stories! You and Mary Poppins are the best.

Posted by: Chilling the most at October 02, 2013 03:49 AM (gxtMZ)

119 thanks

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 03:49 AM (zZbNF)

120 101 I'm surprised Vic missed this story: Bad sex change operation lead to euthanasia. In Belgium, of course. SFW, Telegraph. http://tinyurl.com/qz8bun4 Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 02, 2013 07:40 AM (0IhFx) Somebody needs to stop that doctor. He administers the hot shot but wouldn't they have to have a person examined by psychologists first? This whole think reeks.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 03:51 AM (d0L02)

121 RE: Sex change guy/girl.

He would have found a purpose to live here in the US as a Navigator(tm), where a botched sex change operation is a resume enhancer and a great backstory on The Voice!

Posted by: Tocquevillian at October 02, 2013 03:51 AM (iuY0Y)

122 It means the GOP leadership did not want it to pass.

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 06:58 AM (zZbNF)

Classic oxymoron emboldened above.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 02, 2013 03:51 AM (XdnQT)

123 I wonder if any enterprising journalist will track down the order to close the parks, and other high profile government functions. Could be something akin to the IRS scandal, dontcha think?

Nah, that won't happen.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 02, 2013 03:51 AM (sBwRF)

124 BurtTC @ 49- Political fantasy league! Brother , that is the best description of 'conservative' journalists I have ever heard. These guys like Byron York have revealed themselves as rinos. The time has come where I trust no journalists. Not FOX, not any of them. This game they are playing with their rino buddies threatens America. And when I say America, I mean a free America. Ubamacare has to go. And after it goes, the federal government needs a serious haircut.

Posted by: EROWMER at October 02, 2013 03:52 AM (OONaw)

125

I really think we're at a turning point. The outlandish language the democrats in office and especially OUR President ( supposed to be for the whole fucking country) has been beyond childish and irresponsible. The insults and the rancor makes the environment to negotiate in good faith on anything impossible. How does the President walk back talking about Tea Party conservatives as terrorists or idiots?

It's not just the dog-eating crackhead. If shitheels like McStain think the base will forget about being called "wacko birds," then he's even more senile than I think he is. This fight is exposing the statist pigs in the GOP who need to be thrown out, as well as their complicit Beltway buddies. This standoff is long overdue, either to flush the crap out of the GOP or kill it and found a true constitutional party.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 03:52 AM (zF6Iw)

126 118 ...How does the President walk back talking about Tea Party conservatives as terrorists or idiots?... Posted by: Yip at October 02, 2013 07:48 AM (/jHWN) Something about "red lines?" The GOP could learn a thing or two from Assad and Putin. Then again, we are up against a majority in the Senate and Preezy Bukkake.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:52 AM (WjLUf)

127 I bet 6 in 10 people under 30 have no idea some of the government has shut down.

No. 1 son tells me one of his liberal idiot co-workers was in tears yesterday over the shutdown.

No. 2 leaves today for Best Virginia to work as a security guard while he trains to become an EMT.

No. 3 son woke me at 0630 to ask for gas money. I told him, "You didn't go to church, you don't get gas money."

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at October 02, 2013 03:53 AM (azHfB)

128

93 "I started keyboarding in 6th grade, away back in the dark ages of the mid '80s."

Long before that, when we rode dinosaurs to school, we had typing/business machines classes.

70 words per minute on a manual typewriter. 10 key adders, full keyboard adders, comptometers, rotary calculators.

All powered by mules and coal.

Of course, we had to walk to school, 10 miles each way, uphill in the snow.

Now, get off my lawn.

Posted by: jwest at October 02, 2013 03:53 AM (u2a4R)

129 Little Orphan Annie no home yet.

Posted by: toby928© at October 02, 2013 03:54 AM (QupBk)

130 117 When the first death comes from Obamacare and the "death panel" that Sarah Palin warned about then that will be newsworthy. Which is why there is a 75% probability that we will never hear about it even when combing through approx. 50 news sites like I do almost every morning. Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 07:47 AM (zZbNF) That's also a fear, Vic. Getting a check in the mail every month is one thing. Being told to die is quite another. Some entitlement. I always thought that this would make America rise up, but then again the Brits have had death panels since 1947 and not a peep.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 02, 2013 03:55 AM (WjLUf)

131 I really think we're at a turning point.

If we're not at a turning point, we're at a burning point. As in, let it.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at October 02, 2013 03:55 AM (azHfB)

132 I did not win Mega Millions last nite. Some donk in Maryland did. I've notice that NJ, Maryland, Penn, and Florida always win the big shit. I think it's fixed. Well my MM playing is over. They've changed the odds. 1 to 154 million I could handle. 1 to 178 million I can not.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 03:56 AM (d0L02)

133

These two Peanuts cartoons from GoComics (thanks AtC) perfectly illustrate how the GOP treats it's base.

We are Charlie Brown and they are Lucy with the football.

October 21, 2007
http://tinyurl.com/pcxnbe3

September 14, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/nfc8fvg

Posted by: ExSnipe at October 02, 2013 03:57 AM (57ubW)

134 80 -

One piece of evidence everyone should have taken away from yesterday is that the left is very very afraid of this shutdown. Up until it occurred they were confident. I think what we saw yesterday was that it was all bluff.

We'll see how it goes, but if the Rs manage to stand fast, this could be a huge political win.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2013 03:57 AM (BeSEI)

135 >> Man, what's with the Gabe bashing Andy? It's not bashing. It's apparently hurling insults. Should make for a fun podcast.

Posted by: Andy at October 02, 2013 03:57 AM (0ZQCB)

136 We'll see how it goes, but if the Rs manage to stand fast, this could be a huge political win.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2013 07:57 AM (BeSEI)

Were you able to type that with a straight face?

Posted by: buzzion at October 02, 2013 03:58 AM (LI48c)

137

He is doing what he thinks he knows works with great peril for comity and social trust going forward. And I blame all the idiot democrats that voted this asshole in despite all the reasons to see he was a fraud and a radical... and they did it twice.

"Community organization" is all he knows. Keep in mind that most community organizers get what they want because either the organizers have friends in higher places (state or federal government that leans on the target) or because the target just doesn't have the stomach for the fight. The former doesn't apply here but the latter certainly does, so the only way for the good guys to prevail is to be strong and ignore the media because I don't get the sense that the public really cares that much. The media and the DC GOP certainly are consumed by it, but it feels like the real people out here in America consider it to be a big joke.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 02, 2013 03:59 AM (JxMoP)

138

Little Orphan Annie no home yet.

I'll be happy to give a home to Little Annie Fanny.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 03:59 AM (zF6Iw)

139

Posted by: Chilling the most at October 02, 2013 07:49 AM (gxtMZ)

Thanks. There haven't been any stories this week because I'm running a little dry. I'll be on vacation next week, so I'll have one long story on Friday to tide you all over.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 04:00 AM (zF6Iw)

140 Little Orphan Annie no home yet.

I'll be happy to givea home to Little Annie Fanny.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 07:59 AM (zF6Iw)

Arf!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 02, 2013 04:01 AM (XdnQT)

141 As that link yesterday confirmed, shutdowns have happened many times before and under the donk tenure. So, refer the libtards to it and tell them to stfu.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 04:02 AM (d0L02)

142

Apparently the truly smart thing to do was to delay the delay fight. Always need to wait for the next battle to fight. Retreat to the next hill.

"Defund? No that's stupid. You want to delay it! Wait you want to try and delay it now? You can't do that! Wait until the debt ceiling."

Posted by: buzzion at October 02, 2013 04:02 AM (LI48c)

143 political winners and losers in this fight. The winners: Sen. Paul and Govs. Christie, Walker, and Bush. I'd add Gov. Jindal

*****

Your metric is flawed

Posted by: Beto at October 02, 2013 04:02 AM (VWfCN)

144 137 -

I consider the word "if" to be one of the most crucial in the English language.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2013 04:04 AM (BeSEI)

145 Posted by: buzzion at October 02, 2013 08:02 AM (LI48c)

He who hesitates is lost!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 02, 2013 04:04 AM (XdnQT)

146 Might be a good idea to remember that government services shutdown is an integral part of martial law. And 30 conservative congresspeople ain't going to be the ones who make that happen. That will be the work of the Washington City regime. Just sayin'.

Posted by: EROWMER at October 02, 2013 04:05 AM (OONaw)

147 Keep your eyes on the WWII vets the next couple of days. Might turn into a catalyst for a sea change, might not. But those gentlemen know a thing or two about hills and dying. To paraphrase Patton*, you win, not by finding a hill to die on, but by making the other poor SOB find a hill to die on. Metaphorically speaking. *(George S., not Oswald)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 02, 2013 04:05 AM (N/Sup)

148 125 -

Thanks, I will admit I get most of my best ideas from copying and stealing other people's, but this one I thought up on my own. I'm sure others have said it before me, but that's what it has looked like the last couple weeks.

Political fantasy league players, getting mad because guys like Cruz are not on their roster.

Other than that, they have nothing meaningful to say about what's going on in our world.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2013 04:06 AM (BeSEI)

149 @148: For me, the vets did solidify the strategy here. 1) Sit back and have a drink 2) Obama will continue ratcheting up his "3 year old on meth" antics, because it's who he is 3) Dems who are up for reelection next year will eventually have had enough

Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2013 04:10 AM (T6c9C)

150

Mike Hendrix over at Cold Fury smacks the dog-eating crackhead right in the face. I'd give real folding money to any GOPer who had the stones to read this on the floor of the Senate:

Another wonderful aspect of the WW2 Memorial Tea Party that I was just musing on is this: the reason Ogabe and Pals miscalculated so badly here is that they expected these men to respond like their sniveling voter base would: by whining and crying over how they couldnÂ’t get into the memorial because of the howwible Wepubbicans and their shutdown, weeping and wailing that Somebody Must Do Something! and then waiting for the government to save them like good little Wards OÂ’ The State should. That would have given the regime a great photo op, something for the Ministry of Propaganda to capture on camera and run on every news outlet in the country excepting, perhaps, Fox.

The resulting clamor over the horror of these poor pitiful veterans victimized by Wepubbican Tewwowists would have given them a resounding propaganda victory, highlighted the gruesome damage done by the temporary furlough of a whole slew of useless apparatchiks in departments nobodyÂ’s every heard of, and cemented the highly useful illusion that the Â“shutdownÂ” was anything but an Obama-Reid Production in the minds of ill-informed drones everywhere.

Instead, these doughty fellows flipped Â‘em a middle finger, said Â“FUCK you,Â” and took matters into their own hands.

In other words, Ogabe was counting on the good, true American spirit having been ground out of us for good, just like he always does. His whole godawful regime is based on exactly that hope and belief, after all, and everything he does relies on it. Then it blew up in his pinched, smarmy face. Instead of teaching Those People a hard lesson, the Little Professor got taken to school instead.

Not just yet, you jugeared pussy. Not just yet. You got a ways to go still before youÂ’ve crushed us completely, and with some of us, itÂ’s going to take some doing.

As the Big Guy would say, read the whole thing.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 04:13 AM (zF6Iw)

151 Good morning all!

I was a Dick Tracy fan growing up.. and Peanuts, of course.

I loved Calvin & Hobbes in the 90's and still have the re-runs of those as a daily feed on my home page.

As far as the shutdown goes, I think we need to concentrate on a delay of the individual mandate and/or a law that everyone must participate - which would be my choice. No exemptions! I think we could get that passed.

As we saw yesterday, Obamacare is here.. defunding or no. Let's make it work as poorly as we can. Flood the websites. Send letters to the editors about how much more your premiums (and out of pocket) would be under Obamacare. We need some outrage at this piece of shit to make it into the news.

And I'm off to work.. have a good one y'all.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 02, 2013 04:15 AM (AYOav)

152 In a year, no one is going to remember the "Shutdown."

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at October 02, 2013 04:16 AM (azHfB)

153 1 to 154 million I could handle. 1 to 178 million I can not. Obma on line one offering you OMB Director.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 02, 2013 04:16 AM (659DL)

154 Good for the vets. Keep on storming the Barack-cades, guys!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2013 04:21 AM (a4Omg)

155 What is Gabe trying to say? No fight on ObamaCare at all? Skip repeal, defund, and delay? Just wait for the debt ceiling thing to stir from its nap, and then do what? Wasn't Gabe recently advocating delay?

Posted by: eman at October 02, 2013 04:22 AM (AO9UG)

156 Gabe has bumped the shutdown thread from Dave last night

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 04:23 AM (zZbNF)

157 De lurking for a sec. I home school my first grader and preschooler. With my oldest we have done formal handwriting lessons every day since we brought him home (in K). He is ambidextrous and so he needed to work on strengthening his writing hand. We have seen nothing but benefits from it. Honestly he needs it because it forces him to slow down and take his time on his work. Ever since we started making him do the handwriting his focus and attention span has improved dramatically. Whenever we put him in front of the computer for exercises (which is rare now) he goes right back to being unfocused and all over the place (typical modern six year old behavior). So I see the benefits of formal handwriting and holding back on the computers for a while.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at October 02, 2013 04:24 AM (qFpRI)

158 Sources tell FTVLive that CNN Boss Jeff Zucker is "actively looking for a replacement for Piers Morgan."
http://tinyurl.com/oagevvq

Posted by: knowledge is power at October 02, 2013 04:25 AM (Nx76m)

159 Why the stompening?

Posted by: eman at October 02, 2013 04:28 AM (AO9UG)

160 I can't seem to access the "Cold Fury" article but the excerpt you put was great, MPPP; Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2013 04:28 AM (a4Omg)

161
Just 6.6 percent of EPA employees were not declared non essential. 95 percent of Dept of Education employees are non essential.

If they're non essential, they should not be invited to return to work once the shutdown is over. All these alphabet federal departments need to be looked at, and have their funding adjusted steeply downward to prevent them from ever employing non essential workers, (or engaging in non essential tasks).

Oh, and about the WWII vets....I think the Obumbles admin will come to some sort of agreement to prevent another episode of 'bad optics' from making them look like petty fools.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 02, 2013 04:29 AM (0IhFx)

162 Same here. Eleventh grade class, I think. On 'state of the art' IBM Selectric's. A couple years later I was writing programs in Fortran and Cobol and my lack of typing skills didn't hurt me none.

--

Here, too. I took typing as an elective in high school in the late 70s...on the old IBMs. I can still hear my teacher calling out the letters as we positioned our fingers over the keys, ready to strike in unison: "A" "A" "A" "D" "D" "D"

~~Thanks to that class, I got my first job at 18 working in an insurance office.~~

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 02, 2013 04:30 AM (XB5Ak)

163 Boehner doesn't have the power to do anything, that's what Ryan Lizza was complaining about, 'the suicide caucus' darn Hobbits, in the New Yorker, those rallied by dangerous counterrevolutionaries like the Huntress.

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at October 02, 2013 04:30 AM (2kpL8)

164 The problem with these banana republicans is that they don't want to share their bananas.

Posted by: Fritz at October 02, 2013 04:32 AM (UzPAd)

165 Gabriel -- so we like this because it's fun? The most infuriating thing about the Republican water boys for the left is that they adopt the same unwillingness to intellectually engage that plagues the left. So we get Gabriel calling names and beating up straw men every morning and we're left with nothing to do but respond in kind. You can't reason the skunk of moronville out of a position he didn't reason himself into. After a whole barrage of bitching and moaning about Cruz, I STILL haven't heard anyone even ATTEMPT to explain why conservatives should not expect Congress and Boehner to exercise the power of the purse. In fact, I haven't heard even one ADMIT that Boehner and the Republicans in the house of Representatives have the POWER to do so. How can we have an honest discussion of strategy when we're being fed BS. Applying Occam's Razor, it's pretty clear that the so called difference in strategy is really a difference in priorities and incentives. The first priority for activist Republicans is to rein in the insane level of taxing and spending before Math becomes the strongest opposition to Democrats (a la Detroit, Newark, etc.) while the PRIMARY goal of establishment Republicans is to maintain and increase their power. What Gabriel and the DC crowd don't seem to understand is that we expect elections to have consequences and after nearly three years of Republicans in Congress going along with Obama's spending it's become obvious that RINO's and RINOB's (Republicans In Need Of guts) are the problem. Mercy

Posted by: Mercy Vetsel at October 02, 2013 04:32 AM (6wZ6q)

166 Now I got the entire "Cold Fury" article. Wow!.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2013 04:32 AM (a4Omg)

167 Heilbrunn, in the National Interest, suddenly finds no use for the Congress, they should dub it the Imperial Interest,

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at October 02, 2013 04:33 AM (2kpL8)

168 Obama-Reid Shutdown Theater political stunt backfires

http://tinyurl.com/oj68d2g

Never been to that site, good read.

Posted by: knowledge is power at October 02, 2013 04:34 AM (Nx76m)

169 Using the NPS and PP in this way is pretty fucking sleezy.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 04:36 AM (d0L02)

170 143 Oh FFS! We have seriously unserious buffoons in charge of us. From The Blaze: "Vice President Joe Biden Â– known for his verbal gaffes Â— accidentally revealed the cover of a classified document codeword in a photo published by AFP/Getty Images. During a photo opportunity in the Oval Office on Monday, when President Barack Obama and Biden met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the vice president was holding the binder to a Â“classified document,Â” The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported. The binder had the word Â“CodewordÂ” written across it. The contents inside the document were not revealed." (There's an accompanying pic too.) I hate these incompetent a-holes!

Posted by: runningrn at October 02, 2013 04:38 AM (PLOz8)

171 Fall is officially here now. My fall blooming camellias are starting to bloom now. I think it is about 2 weeks early for them but that is just one more sign that a BAD Winter is coming.

Anyway, going out for my morning walk. BBL

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 04:39 AM (zZbNF)

172 The closing of the WWII memorial is particularly loathsome when you consider the chain link fencing surrounding the original construction was removed early in recognition of the fact that veterans were dying at the rate of approximately 1100 per day. "Officials said they wanted to open the memorial before the dedication to allow as many visits as possible by World War II veterans -- who are dying at a rate of about 1,100 a day, according to the American Battle Monuments Commission, the project's sponsor. Large tour groups of veterans will begin filing into the memorial early next week. "When I asked some guys about going to the [dedication], they said they didn't want to do that because there'd be too many people," said Sandy Hart, who about a year ago began organizing a tour of the memorial for veterans living near her in western Kentucky. "So I set something up for the beginning of May and I thought, 'I'll see if I can get 10 or 12 people.' " She got a lot more than that -- about 1,000 people heard about the trip and told her they wanted to go. Deaths, strokes, broken hips and other complications have whittled the numbers down slightly, she said, to about 800. More than half of them are veterans of the war, she said, and they will board 17 buses and arrive in Washington on Monday." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51472-2004Apr28.html

Posted by: Davod at October 02, 2013 04:42 AM (dj3iF)

173 >>>>Why the stompening?<<<<

Having been stung mightily by "Fantasy Political League" Gabe has opted to retreat behind Pathos.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 02, 2013 04:42 AM (P/gm7)

174 Comic strips? Calvin and Hobbes, because a little boy and his stuffed tiger taught me that cannibalism should be a mitgating factor in a murder case because it's less wasteful.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at October 02, 2013 04:44 AM (rXcBX)

175 Sorry Mr. malor, dissent is patriotic.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 02, 2013 04:45 AM (VrVBw)

176 Speaking of Honor Flights, this will make your blood boil. From Northwestohiodotcom: Honor Flight of Northwest Ohio has a trip scheduled to depart from Toledo next Wednesday, October 9. "We will make the call this Friday to determine if the flight is still a go, or if we will have to re-schedule," Armstrong explains. He says they are considering going ahead with the trip even if the government is still on shutdown, but when he called the parks service, he was told they would face arrest. "I said, are you kidding me? You're going to arrest a 90/91-year-old veteran from seeing his memorial? If it wasn't for them it wouldn't be there. She said, 'That's correct sir.'" When Armstrong asked for her name, he says she did not give it to him and then promptly hung up the phone. 99% of veterans on Honor Flights have never had the opportunity to see the memorial that is devoted to their service. Through October, the are over 35,000 veterans scheduled to visit the site, more than 900 in the next five days alone.

Posted by: runningrn at October 02, 2013 04:49 AM (PLOz8)

177
Comic strips? Calvin and Hobbes, because a little boy and his stuffed tiger taught me that cannibalism should be a mitgating factor in a murder case because it's less wasteful.

As a teen, I used to like Bloom County, (and still enjoy reading through some of the old strips). But after discovering most of them online, I realized that 90% of them are liberal themed crap.

Calvin and Hobbes was always just entertaining, and never had to dip into politics.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 02, 2013 04:53 AM (0IhFx)

178

Speaking of Honor Flights, this will make your blood boil. From Northwestohiodotcom:

They should take heart from the other vets. Go ahead, make Barky's goons arrest you. Best publicity the right could have.

OK, got stuff to do. Bbl.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 04:53 AM (zF6Iw)

179 They are all out of towners. So, would they ticket them and the ticketees throw it away? Or, would they actually arrest them. Good luck with that. Transporting them alone would be a nightmare.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 04:54 AM (d0L02)

180 Don't necessarily agree with Gabe on a ton of what he posts, but it's absurd to claim that some of the comments directed at him are anything but insults. Have some class, FFS.

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at October 02, 2013 04:54 AM (T/CkD)

181 Typing, 8th grade in the mid-60's. The only skill I learned in school that enhanced my employment opportunities, and did it ever. And I hated grade-school penmanship drills. Nevertheless, some penmanship should be taught -- as a motor-skills enhancer, an art form, and as accompaniment to copy-book headings, which teach morality and spelling, which are the same thing really.

You know, they taught drawing at West Point, until the camera came along. In the mid-19th century, everyone could draw. They called it "rendering," and yes, there were jokes about that, since in the 19th century everyone knew what rendering was, and most people had done it at one time or another.

Remember that in typing class, you sat in a certain kind of chair, the typewriter was on a certain kind of table, and the instructor would harangue you about arm and elbow positioning? Most so-called carpal tunnel and repetitive motion syndrome cases arise from the damnfoolishness of placing a flat keyboard on a writing-height desk, and contorting the body to fit this torturous configuration. Way back then, a lot of people typed all day, all year, and they knew very well that there was a right and a wrong way to do it. We're modern, but stupid.

Has anyone noticed that, with the Memorial case, Obama has shat a giant shit in the punchbowl and then run off on a world tour, so he can watch the fun on TV? It's a major part of his modus operandi. Someone must have taken an overnight poll, though, because he's shortening the trip. Sequester though, not a shutdown.

The vets are planning to put wheelchairs forward, and their battle cry is "Let's Roll." When they execute a sharp column right and head up the Mall, I believe the ground will shake, as it ought. Somebody has the unenviable assignment this morning of emplacing anti-wheelchair barriers on the Ellipse. When that happens, I expect all the memorial statues in the city to rise up and walk, like at the end of Don Giovanni.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 02, 2013 04:54 AM (JNUY4)

182 And the term scorched earth is as old as old can be.

Posted by: kreplach at October 02, 2013 07:46 AM (1YJrc)

The Russians were fond of it. Worked for them twice. It is a great tactic against a stronger opponent, if a little hard on the peasants.

Posted by: Invictus at October 02, 2013 05:00 AM (FBkKA)

183 "I still think this was poor strategy (and poor logic, too), that the debt ceiling fight was the way to go, and all the insults in the world haven't changed my mind." Um.. there are other methods of persuasion one might consider. No insult intended.

_____ Good Morning, virtual hoboes. As the Daystar slips toward fewer hours of day, I gradually move rising time/pet feeding time to later and later. Consequently, AoSHQ seems to be happening for me earlier and earlier. Then, after Halloween. all of you will seig-heil the Gummint clocknazis and return to God's time, and then I'll be up relatively earlier again. What? Coffee!

Posted by: mindful webworker waiting on the coffee machinr at October 02, 2013 05:03 AM (cdYeu)

184

Winter is coming

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Indeed

Posted by: House Stark at October 02, 2013 05:03 AM (sOtz/)

185 You do know that a thread from yesterday has been resurrected by Gabe and posted.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 02, 2013 05:03 AM (sSHNB)

186 Well, almost ran out of my daily allotment of F-bombs on a co-worker this morning. Coffee, who needs coffee.

Posted by: RWC at October 02, 2013 05:07 AM (fWAjv)

187 The New Katzenjammer Kids - Hope and Change Edition Hans: Poor Captain he has der hangnail again! Ve must help him. Fritz: Yah, let's zign him up for der Obamacare. Hans: (dialing phone) Ya! I'm haff der number, right here! *sometime later* Der Captain: Ackh! You hooligans! I've been death paneled! Vor der hangnail! Two Obamacare thugs: Come along old timer. Time to bend the cost curve! Der Captain: He-e-e-e-e-e-e-elp! *Thugs throw Der Captain into van and drive away* Hans: Vell.....time to eat lunch! *eating sandwiches* Fritz: Yum! Dis Zoilent Green is delicious! Hans: Ya! i vunder what it is? The End

Posted by: The New Katzenjammer Kids - Hope and Change Edition at October 02, 2013 05:14 AM (ZR4Xh)

188 move of the nation's capitol to Oklahoma -Vic NIMBY! Western Kansas or Nebraska, thanks. Alternatively, down on the border in Arizona.

Posted by: mindful webworker in the Land of the Red Man. Sersly u gyz at October 02, 2013 05:18 AM (ItCyz)

189

Posted by: The New Katzenjammer Kids - Hope and Change Edition at October 02, 2013 09:14 AM (ZR4Xh)

LOL! Even better if the O-thug was Der Inschpector!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 05:19 AM (zF6Iw)

190 >>I'm still waiting for someone to give me a cogent explanation for how any of this can turn into an achievable net win for our side. What circumstances would make the Democrats fold? If the endgame is just unconditional surrender by the Republicans three weeks or so from now (seriously, give me a plausible scenario that doesn't end that way), we might as well just fold now and minimize the damage. If you were dumb enough to bet on a pair of 3s in the first place, you don't get a consolation prize for calling all the other guy's bets until he shows his full house. Posted by: suedenim at October 02, 2013 07:07 AM (rr3dQ)<< I love adjectives like "cogent" and "plausible", also "credible", "realistic", "rational", and 'achievable". All of which mean: 'Explain it accepting my biases as true'. For instance, if I suggested that it would be better for Republicans to do everything possible to block Democrat policies, instead of allowing them to pass and going into the next election complaining about Democrat policies, that wouldn't be "plausible". Or if I suggested that a Republican caucus is supposed to develop coordinated action around the promises made when they got elected ,that wouldn't be "credible". Or if I said the Supreme Court affirmed the constitutionality of federal economic regulation in part because the American people are free to elect a House majority that will unilaterally defund a bureaucracy which the Senate and President refuse to vote to dissolve, that would not be "cogent". So I'm sorry, I have no cogent, plausible explanations. Merely sexy, mainstream fun.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at October 02, 2013 05:19 AM (1/SMP)

191 I think I am seeing some more black helicopters.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you.

Posted by: NC Ref at October 02, 2013 05:21 AM (9rhyU)

192

are we permitted to only fight one thing?

is there some sort of gentlemen's agreement that we will fight on one thing only and might be given some minor concessions

shouldn't it be desired that we fight both things?

what nonsense

Posted by: thunderb at October 02, 2013 05:22 AM (zOTsN)

193 Beck is talking on air about a letter released by harry reid from boehner. He's saying the chief of staff for boehner will take the fall but he's really pissed at boehner.

I'm glad I tuned in to hear this.

Posted by: knowledge is power at October 02, 2013 05:24 AM (Nx76m)

194 So I see the benefits of formal handwriting and holding back on the computers for a while. Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at October 02, 2013 08:24 AM (qFpRI) In a couple of years, you might want to expose him to calligraphy. Most kids enjoy it. As you said, it requires slowing down and unlearning a lot of the bad habits they use to teach kids when they taught handwriting. It's taught by tracing over sample letters so it's not difficult to learn. My handwriting still sucks but I can do a beautiful Happy Birthday or Thank You in fancy flourished italic. I took one semester of typing my last year of HS in preparation for college. I wish I took a class in shorthand so I cd take notes quickly and so nosey people couldn't read what I wrote.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 05:34 AM (d0L02)

195 dump up

Posted by: Vic at October 02, 2013 05:47 AM (zZbNF)

196 On FBN some suggestion that PR turning slightly to favor Rs --largely due to WH and Reid unwilling to compromise. Most likely all these terrorist bomb throwing slurs don't help.

Posted by: gracepmc at October 02, 2013 05:50 AM (rznx3)

197 Well, they chose this route. They cant pass a clean CR now. If they do that they are caving and I think that would weaken them in the debt ceiling negotiations.

IMHO, it wouldn't have mattered if they chose to fight on this or the debt ceiling if they don't have a spine.

Posted by: pmb88 at October 02, 2013 06:11 AM (F1jjG)

198

"the debt ceiling fight was the way to go, and all the insults in the world haven't changed my mind."

At this point it's beyond dispute: Malor's job around here is to get his bones broken each and every day.

We're all so punched out and thoroughly exasperated with his cretinism we can't molest the big guy.

Posted by: gary gulrud at October 02, 2013 08:09 AM (uv0Aw)

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