October 03, 2013

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— andy

Lotta Brawndo out there. Whole lotta electrolytes.


The good news is that his vote canceled Ben K.'s, so we've got that going for us.

And in shutdown related news, it looks like the service academies' football games will go on after all.


[Update: BenK] Andy's wrong, I voted for President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.

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1 Ha!

Posted by: Crotchety at October 03, 2013 02:30 AM (h0T3E)

2 Greetings from Taipei today. Cry Havoc, and let go The Vic!

Posted by: John P. Squibob at October 03, 2013 02:33 AM (y/BBF)

3 Obama: "To those who say the Affordable Care Act is not working, I say ask Ben Dover if he is pleased with his insurance. Ask Ho Lee Fuk if he thought he paid too much. Dixie Normous didn't have a problem signing on and getting coverage for a pre-existing condition. I say it's high time to reject the political extremists in this country who do not want to have to face the truth."

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 03, 2013 02:33 AM (U2UQk)

4 DAY 331 1,132 to go (1,203 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 02:36 AM (WjLUf)

5 2 Greetings from Taipei today. Cry Havoc, and let go The Vic! Posted by: John P. Squibob at October 03, 2013 06:33 AM (y/BBF) Taipei, Taip-B. Meh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 02:36 AM (WjLUf)

6 Mark Levin was about a red c-unt hair away from calling for open revolt last night. I have to agree.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 02:37 AM (WjLUf)

7 Fifth (columnist)

Posted by: Kotter at October 03, 2013 02:38 AM (At1vg)

8 Mornin' horde.

Posted by: Boone at October 03, 2013 02:38 AM (tIyK2)

9 3 Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 03, 2013 06:33 AM (U2UQk) Mike Hunt and Clint Torrez were not available for comment.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 02:39 AM (WjLUf)

10 Taipei, Taip-B. Meh. All the same. FIFY?

Posted by: John P. Squibob at October 03, 2013 02:40 AM (y/BBF)

11 "And Normandy was closed when we got there too." I love that quote.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 02:40 AM (a9Z+h)

12 10 Taipei, Taip-B. Meh. All the same. FIFY? Posted by: John P. Squibob at October 03, 2013 06:40 AM (y/BBF) Whatever you want. By the way, do Chinese people go out for Jewish food on Sundays?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 02:40 AM (WjLUf)

13 Welcome. Welcome, my friends, to the United States of Utopian Healthcare!

Posted by: Fritz at October 03, 2013 02:40 AM (x2W/k)

14 Call me crazy, but if the Proggies and the political class do not want the House to have ongoing power over appropriations (and thus control) affecting their programs and bureaucratic agencies, then Congress shouldn't pass legislation that creates programs and bureaucratic agencies that require ongoing appropriations. It is possible for Congress to limit itself to writing legislation that consists entirely of rules and standards, to be enforced privately and in the courts, rather than create huge bureaucracies. Which require funding, dickheads.

Posted by: Phinn at October 03, 2013 02:41 AM (oFH2D)

15 Obama:

"To those who say the Affordable Care Act is not working, I say ask Ben Dover if he is pleased with his insurance. Ask Ho Lee Fuk if he thought he paid too much. Dixie Normous didn't have a problem signing on and getting coverage for a pre-existing condition. I say it's high time to reject the political extremists in this country who do not want to have to face the truth."

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 03, 2013 06:33 AM (U2UQk)


Yesterday, I asked a question   If we have to subsidize insurance so that poor people can buy it, who is going to subsidize their deductibles that they can't pay because they didn't have the money to pay for the insurance in the first place?

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at October 03, 2013 02:41 AM (1hekh)

16 11 "And Normandy was closed when we got there too." I love that quote. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 06:40 AM (a9Z+h) I'd love to meet the genius old dogface who said that and personally shake his hand.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 02:41 AM (WjLUf)

17 Mike Hunt and Clint Torrez were not available for comment. Either was Dick Nibbler.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at October 03, 2013 02:42 AM (y/BBF)

18 Operation Disobey.

Execute.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at October 03, 2013 02:42 AM (jpc8l)

19 17 Either was Dick Nibbler. Posted by: John P. Squibob at October 03, 2013 06:42 AM (y/BBF) But Tourette Niblick will be with us like herpes. Feh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 02:43 AM (WjLUf)

20 are we allowed to breath, or is that restricted do to the evil republican shutdown?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 03, 2013 02:43 AM (zZJJp)

21 So far I think our side is winning. The Democrats look stupid and petty in all of this.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 03, 2013 02:43 AM (uhAkr)

22 That idiot's Twitter feed is something to behold. Sheer lunacy and liberal ravings.

Posted by: Throat Wobbler Mangrove at October 03, 2013 02:44 AM (lAdCl)

23 Don't know J.J. I'm heading to Osaka on Saturday.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at October 03, 2013 02:44 AM (y/BBF)

24 21 So far I think our side is winning. The Democrats look stupid and petty in all of this. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 03, 2013 06:43 AM (uhAkr) Why do I get the feeling that for once we are winning this and that the majority of people see it? I sure as hell hope Boehner and company see it and stand firm.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 02:45 AM (WjLUf)

25 Andy in early and I had nodded off.

Good Morning Morons.  Today is Thursday, October 03, 2013.  On this day in 1955 Captain Kangaroo premiered on TV.  This was the first TV show I ever saw at some point in the 50s.  I saw it while my father was working on a TV for someone (people were always dragging TV/Radio stuff over for him to fix).   We didn't have a TV of our own at the time.


Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:45 AM (zZbNF)

26 No Malor? This is already looking like a good day. Brit Hume needs to get outside the beltway.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 03, 2013 02:45 AM (2TqDD)

27 The latest from the AP via Fox on the non-shutdown.  Of course no mention on the absolute shit being done by his royal "I think I'm God" majesty King Barky-1.  But get a load of this horse shit.

The House earlier approved a measure to let the District of Columbia spend its own money during the budget impasse.

Why in the hell is it not spending its own money ALL the damn time?

http://tinyurl.com/ojr3wlq

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:45 AM (zZbNF)

28 I thought I had seen a brief news item yesterday that said Barky the SOB had signed a military pay bill that congress actually passed.  Well Republicans are calling them on it.  Of course Fox is reporting this as another "back and forth squabble" instead of outrageous behavior by the bastards in the Democrat Party and King Barky.


So all you folks in the DOD who were posting yesterday can blame Barky.  You were not supposed to be sent home.

http://tinyurl.com/osf5dpa

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:46 AM (zZbNF)

29 Feds claim to have busted a $1.2B Internet drug operation.  I have to throw the BS flag on this one.  This report comes on the heals of widespread reporting of a watchdog report that says drugs were more prevalent than ever and the street prices were going down.  We all know "its all about the optics".  And besides that, nearly everything that comes out of the puking rotten pie holes of this administration is a lie.

http://tinyurl.com/pg3hjfp

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:46 AM (zZbNF)

30 Roof-top solar panels are causing hazards for fire fighters.

http://tinyurl.com/lyg4wc2

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:46 AM (zZbNF)

31 Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

Posted by: forest at October 03, 2013 02:46 AM (stMuz)

32 Russian embassy in Libya attacked by Muzzies.  Evidently they did not have a "Cankles" to screw things up.

http://tinyurl.com/pxxrdpu

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:47 AM (zZbNF)

33 The NRA announces that it will sue CA over its new gun grabbing law.  This will be interesting because you have to know the 9th circuit will of course blow it off and then it will head for the Supremes.  We will see what kind of controls amount to "reasonable controls" that were called out in Heller. According to the Constitution zero controls are reasonable controls.

http://tinyurl.com/q6fvoms

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:47 AM (zZbNF)

34 Federal Judge orders "monitoring" of Sheriff Joe for so-called racial profiling for "singling out illegal Hispanics" for detention.  Since that is 99.99% of the illegals crossing the border there in AZ how is that profiling?  Of course with the corruption we have in the DOJ the law makes no sense anymore anyway.  Especially when it deals with illegals.

http://tinyurl.com/onmlxxu

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:47 AM (zZbNF)

35 Money-grubbing Jackson parents get nothing from the deep pockets of AEG Live in wrongful death civil suit.  I am astounded since this trial occurred in L.A.

http://tinyurl.com/l36ktx9

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:47 AM (zZbNF)

36 Of course the alphabets are supporting the ludicrous AGW report issued by the non-scientist politicians at the UN.  CBS demonstrates its scientific knowledge by making the Bidenesque statement that world temperatures will rise 212°.

http://tinyurl.com/kzoxbzt

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:48 AM (zZbNF)

37 The Hill says the Pederast from NV has clarified his remarks about letting little girls die from cancer. And then go on to hype the bad shutdown from evil Repukes.  Here is his "clarification".

Republicans are in such desperate straits that they have literally resorted to accusing me of not caring about kids with cancer. Shameful

http://tinyurl.com/mx3dks2

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:48 AM (zZbNF)

38 21 So far I think our side is winning. The Democrats look stupid and petty in all of this. Only if we show them looking that way.

Posted by: MSM at October 03, 2013 02:48 AM (y/BBF)

39 People in TN signing up for Obamacare can get one of those free Obamaphones.  In the real world that would be a direct violation of the law that established that program.  Since that program is such a mess it should be abolished in its entirety and the BS tax on paying customers abolished.   But that will never happen.

http://tinyurl.com/n2zpyzy

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:48 AM (zZbNF)

40 DERP! Yeah you ever wonder why we're fucked?

THAT is why we're fucked.

Civics instruction in this nation is ranked below toilet etiquette.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 02:49 AM (9jfyN)

41 The Obamacare hotline demonstrates the total incompetence by this lying corrupt shitweasel administration.

http://tinyurl.com/l5au9fu

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:49 AM (zZbNF)

42 So phony protestors pretending to be federal employees show up at the WW2 memorial to bitch at Boehner. Rent a mob who were payed $15.00 to show up and showboat. And if they were federal employees, they'd be violating the Hatch Act.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 02:49 AM (WjLUf)

43 Zero tolerance strikes again.  This time in GA.  A GA teen has been charged with a felony for possession of a weapon at school.  Drug sniffing dogs found evidence of "firecracker" residue in his car.  A subsequent search of the car revealed a tackle box with a fishing knife in it.  When are these stupid lawmakers who pass these laws going to WTF up?

http://tinyurl.com/mrvex9h

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:49 AM (zZbNF)

44 Daily Caller calls out seven of the outrageous things the worthless cockholsters in this corrupt administration have done during this non-shutdown.  "Optics in action".

http://tinyurl.com/k696zbz

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:49 AM (zZbNF)

45 IRS commissioner lied to congress about illegally obtained donor lists of conservative groups.   Will there be charges? Hahahahaha

http://tinyurl.com/lo5rjow

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:49 AM (zZbNF)

46 This morning's laugh

http://tinyurl.com/ojt4muo

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:50 AM (zZbNF)

47 Typical liberal press action.  State that a group of people are against a conservative and then cite one anonymous source.  Anyone who believes any of this shit is a fool.  But we do know there are about 10 RINOs and DIABLOs who are siding with the Demcommie Party on the shutdown.

http://tinyurl.com/nbk4fxf

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:50 AM (zZbNF)

48 26 No Malor? This is already looking like a good day. Brit Hume needs to get outside the beltway. Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 03, 2013 06:45 AM (2TqDD) Uh oh. What did Brit say?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 02:50 AM (WjLUf)

49 Catholic Bishops calling for amnesty.  Too bad the congregation can not fire their Bishops and send them packing to Rome.

http://tinyurl.com/ou862uk

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:50 AM (zZbNF)

50 Why do I get the feeling that for once we are winning this and that the majority of people see it? My gut feeling is that this needs to drag on. The longer it goes on, the worse Democrats will look. The Democrats appear willing to oblige in this regard: they are holding out for unconditional surrender from the GOP. Right now people still are saying the GOP is responsible because that's the programmed reaction. I think as Democrats behave like Democrats those numbers will drop.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 03, 2013 02:50 AM (uhAkr)

51 OH woman defends her home from a thief with a .357 Magnum.  I don't know what the OH laws are for SYG but it appears to me she did everything wrong in this event and she is lucky.   A gun is not a magic wand you can wave at someone and make the world right. Of course if she had shot him she would probably be in jail now.

http://tinyurl.com/kh2bw5y

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:51 AM (zZbNF)

52 CBS tells "heartbreaking story" with laid off EPA worker.  He turns out to be a government paid union boss who does no work.

http://tinyurl.com/ov3aahp

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:51 AM (zZbNF)

53 Mark Levin was about a red c-unt hair away from calling for open revolt last night. I have to agree. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 06:37 AM (WjLUf) Need to listen to that today, stuck at work last night

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 03, 2013 02:51 AM (/OUqZ)

54 39 Vic,

I love Bronk O'Bama

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 02:51 AM (9jfyN)

55 WaTi highlights that the IRS is still taking your money but will not process refunds during the shutdown.  Now what kind of "optics" is that?  Its called make it hurt.  But I take issue with this statement:


The IRS is still collecting taxes during the government shutdown, but it isn’t sending refunds — and it also has stopped complying with a subpoena to turn over documents to members of Congress who are investigating the agency’s targeting of tea party groups.

They were already stonewalling Congress on their illegal targeting of conservatives and there is not only a subpoena out but also a contempt citation.  They are just using the BS non-shutdown as an excuse.

http://tinyurl.com/mjskgb4

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:51 AM (zZbNF)

56 I saw some disturbing report that Boehner wants some "grand bargain" out of this. Somebody has to get that boozy fuck away from the Sterno if he thinks this will work out with Stanley Ann's petulant little bastard.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 03, 2013 02:51 AM (2TqDD)

57 49 Catholic Bishops calling for amnesty. Too bad the congregation can not fire their Bishops and send them packing to Rome. http://tinyurl.com/ou862uk Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 06:50 AM (zZbNF) Send them to the Vatican.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 02:51 AM (WjLUf)

58 Supreme Court has some big upcoming Labor cases.

http://tinyurl.com/kn4fzeq

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:51 AM (zZbNF)

59 Boner wants to do a "grand bargain" in the debt limit talks.  Grand Bargain is just another word for cave in for a sack of juju beans.

http://tinyurl.com/mzqq9jw

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:52 AM (zZbNF)

60 FLAMING SKULL!



Federal judge calls the corrupt Holder's DOJ guilty of "grotesque misconduct" and orders a new trial for N.O. police officers accused of misdeeds by the civil rights division of the DOJ (which should be abolished). Not a word of this story by any of the MFM, including Fox.  This story is worth reading the entire column because it is devastating to the DOJ and the corrupt Holder.  ButÂ…Â…


Despite the judge accusing one prosecutor of lying and writing a10 page list of government regulations violated by the prosecutors in the case, there is no indication that he has sought that these corrupt assholes be disbarred and prosecuted.

http://tinyurl.com/l5nvk2z

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:52 AM (zZbNF)

61 Moar AGW!  Major snow to hit Rocky Mountain States.

http://tinyurl.com/mj9e5xj

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:53 AM (zZbNF)

62 53 Mark Levin was about a red c-unt hair away from calling for open revolt last night. I have to agree. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 06:37 AM (WjLUf) Need to listen to that today, stuck at work last night Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 03, 2013 06:51 AM (/OUqZ) He was threatening a massive protest if anyone laid a finger on a WW2 veteran trying to go to the memorial. But his subtext was that SCOAMF is playing with fire. Agreed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 02:53 AM (WjLUf)

63 Remirez

http://tinyurl.com/lyxd2e5

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:53 AM (zZbNF)

64 VIA and JJ, buy that old dog face at least a beer and shake the hand.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 03, 2013 02:53 AM (B4DX9)

65 Kindle Daily Deals

http://tinyurl.com/k9ad3yw


That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:53 AM (zZbNF)

66 Finally weaved my way through the maze that is healthcare.gov.  My current premium through my own insurance plan (self-employed) = $169.00/mo.  Comparable gubmint (bronze) plan?...$372.20.  WORKING!

The good news is...I just won a bet with one of my liberal clients...I told her I expected my premiums to double - she said no way.  Course, now I have to collect...

Posted by: billygoat at October 03, 2013 02:54 AM (Bs/XF)

67 Well looks like obama is counting on the Republicans folding like a cheap chair and unfortunately he is probably right. Sigh Morning all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2013 02:54 AM (1RQeV)

68 #48 That all his sources were saying this is looking bad for the Repubs. Maybe his sources was that fuckhead Peter King, who needs to be locked in a burning building.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 03, 2013 02:55 AM (2TqDD)

69 59 Boner wants to do a "grand bargain" in the debt limit talks. Grand Bargain is just another word for cave in for a sack of juju beans. Why does he want to work with Democrats so desperately? Every extremist fantasy about Republicans applies to them.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 03, 2013 02:55 AM (uhAkr)

70 Amendments are amendments to the constitution...not laws! When the president signed the ACA it became a law!


One has to make allowances that the education establishment killed HS Civics long ago.  Probably because dumb asses with a teaching degree could not teach civics.  Hell, they probably could not read the book aloud.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:55 AM (zZbNF)

71 The epa office in the Triangle (Raleigh, Durham, chapel hill) NC is shut down. This is the one that was pumping diesel truck exhaust into unsuspecting test subjects breathing air to see what would happen. So that should mitigate Reid's love of cancer a bit.

Posted by: traye at October 03, 2013 02:56 AM (bWQ2s)

72 Much prefer this Michael Ramirez cartoon
http://news.investors.com/photopopup.aspx?id=673203

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 03, 2013 02:56 AM (B4DX9)

73 67, 68 NGU and Cap'n Hate: I thought maybe Teh Ted and Mike Lee had Boehner's ear for a while. Well, we'll see. The longer Agent Orange holds out, the better our chances.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 02:57 AM (WjLUf)

74 21 The Democrats look stupid and petty in all of this.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 03, 2013 06:43 AM (uhAkr)


Given that every one of the alphabets and nearly all of the major newspapers have done nothing but market the Democrat spew, how is the average creosote post going to know how stupid the Democrats have been?

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 02:58 AM (zZbNF)

75 3 Obama: "To those who say the Affordable Care Act is not working, I say ask Ben Dover if he is pleased with his insurance. Ask Ho Lee Fuk if he thought he paid too much. Dixie Normous didn't have a problem signing on and getting coverage for a pre-existing condition. I say it's high time to reject the political extremists in this country who do not want to have to face the truth." ..... You shod tweet that! Lol

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 03, 2013 02:59 AM (rkD/a)

76 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 06:57 AM (WjLUf) So I will see you tomorrow PM?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2013 02:59 AM (1RQeV)

77 I like this suggestion from a poster at "Hot Air" This may be the single best political idea I have heard in years. Keep the House in session round the clock introducing and voting on individual funding bills Have the GOP vote aye on a few they don’t like just to humiliate the Dems. Keep the CSPAN cameras on and make sure the recorded votes are published on line as soon as tabulated.Rebuild the federal govt piece by piece. And when Dirty Harry says who gives them the right, the response is The Constitution of the United States. xkaydet65 on October 2, 2013 at 3:56 PM And about Obama: It’s called doing exactly what Obama promised to do. “I want to go line by line through every item in the federal budget and eliminate programs that don’t work, and make sure that those that do work, work better and cheaper…” - Barack Obama, 2008 ITguy on October 2, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 03:00 AM (a4Omg)

78 #73 Boehner has surprised me positively so far but I'm sure the country clubbers are summoning Rove from their fainting couches to make it stop.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 03, 2013 03:01 AM (2TqDD)

79 76 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 06:57 AM (WjLUf) So I will see you tomorrow PM? Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2013 06:59 AM (1RQeV) I should think so. Goody!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:01 AM (WjLUf)

80 Hey,did I mention that Thursdays are Ladies Day at our range?
And Mrs VIA is off today.

Maybe have her listen to Mark L's rant, and then off we go.

Looks like the state of Maryland averaged about 1,200 new applications to own a handgun per DAY in the last week of the month.
Those are supposed to be processed by the State Police within seven days of submission.
Latest estimated time to get one back that was submitted on the 30th of September is roughly two years if nothing changes.

A right delayed is a right denied.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 03:02 AM (xdC/M)

81 77 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 07:00 AM (a4Omg) This is genius. It seems that Boehner andd the boys are going ahead piecemeal.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:03 AM (WjLUf)

82 Are the barricades up this morning?

If so, I think only if George W. Bush and George H.W. Bush appeared before these barricades and declared, "Mr. President tear down these barricades!" would the other alphabet medias pay attention.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 03, 2013 03:03 AM (B4DX9)

83 68 That all his sources were saying this is looking bad for the Repubs. Maybe his sources was that fuckhead Peter King, who needs to be locked in a burning building.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 03, 2013 06:55 AM (2TqDD)


That was the first thing I thought of.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 03:05 AM (zZbNF)

84 So all you folks in the DOD who were posting yesterday can blame Barky. You were not supposed to be sent home. ... Obama - Do moar pain!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 03, 2013 03:06 AM (DmNpO)

85 Peter King is a loud, mouthbreathing boor. Fuck him. If he's the source, I wouldn't be too concerned. He's loathed by quite a few people in the GOP.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:07 AM (WjLUf)

86 34 Federal Judge orders "monitoring" of Sheriff Joe for so-called racial profiling for "singling out illegal Hispanics" for detention. Since that is 99.99% of the illegals crossing the border there in AZ how is that profiling? Of course with the corruption we have in the DOJ the law makes no sense anymore anyway. Especially when it deals with illegals. http://tinyurl.com/onmlxxu ..... How DARE he pull over someone for a busted light and then notice the person looks suspicious!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 03, 2013 03:08 AM (DmNpO)

87 ON a cheery note, another free-lance socialist bites the dust, thanks to a good businessman in the Seattle suburbs:  http://tinyurl.com/kfcw6r8

Posted by: Tonestaple at October 03, 2013 03:08 AM (3yidV)

88

Hmm.  In a perverse way, I'm disappointed.  I really wanted to see how Gabe would blame yesterday's optics and Barky's "crash, you slaves!  I command you!" on Ted Cruz.

 

Meeting time.  Bbl.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 03, 2013 03:10 AM (zF6Iw)

89

From Fox' website (link on Drudge):

 

Lawmakers spent the evening shouting at each other, as they considered a series of votes on mini-spending bills but got no closer to a deal that could re-open the entire government. In perhaps the most intense exchange, Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., repeatedly accused his GOP colleagues of waging "jihad" on Americans.

 

 

Oh, no, precious - you've got it all wrong.  See, if Republicans were actually jihadis, then the prez and the left and the media would be fawning all over them AND negotiating with them, championing their 'rights', and sending them the weapons they need to wage the jihad you say they're waging.

 

 

Namecalling.  ur doing it wrong.

Posted by: crisis du jour at October 03, 2013 03:11 AM (xviIo)

90 Because amendments! Because law!1!

Posted by: Harriet Lawrence at October 03, 2013 03:12 AM (Dwehj)

91 Given that every one of the alphabets and nearly all of the major newspapers have done nothing but market the Democrat spew, how is the average creosote post going to know how stupid the Democrats have been? The longer it goes on, the more likely it is they can't keep a lid on it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 03, 2013 03:13 AM (uhAkr)

92

The football is on again?  Looks like someone with a modicum of sense is getting to the Democrats and telling them how bad this looks.

 

Federal civil service:   A good thing to do when asked why you shut down something is to say "It wasn't my idea; that order came from the administration."  And then wait and in less than 24 hours you'll be told to open that thing back up again.

 

Plus it would take a nuclear strike to remove you from your job.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet is Overstocked on Petty Vindictiveness!!! Sale Now Thru Sunday! at October 03, 2013 03:14 AM (hLRSq)

93 89 Namecalling. ur doing it wrong. Posted by: crisis du jour at October 03, 2013 07:11 AM (xviIo) George Miller better get on his rotten, stinking knees and pray to his golden calf that we never become the jihadis that he accuses of being. There will be a reaction to him and his ilk that he will come to regret.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:14 AM (WjLUf)

94 At this point someone should point out to the Republican squishes that it is not important what they really think on the issue right now. If we fold, we are fucked, and fucked big time, for the next 3 years. This is the Hill, for better or worse. Make the Good Stand and shut the fuck up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2013 03:14 AM (1RQeV)

95 ON a cheery note, another free-lance socialist bites the dust, thanks to a good businessman in the Seattle suburbs: http://tinyurl.com/kfcw6r8 .... A heart-warming story. I have a little tear in my eye.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 03, 2013 03:14 AM (DmNpO)

96 Oh, no, precious - you've got it all wrong. See, if Republicans were actually jihadis, then the prez and the left and the media would be having their heads cut off & put on pikes. Literally.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 03:15 AM (p9JxP)

97 My public edumacation prepared me well for Twitter.

Posted by: Harriet Lawrence at October 03, 2013 03:16 AM (Dwehj)

98 Seen at WZ: the Obamacare official national hotline is 1-800-318-2596. In letters, that's: 1-800-F1U-CKYO I wonder if Obama picked it personally.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 03, 2013 03:16 AM (T6c9C)

99 I drove past the Great Valley Corporate Center, here in SE Pennsylvania, a couple days ago. Space available signs everywhere. I remember when, shortly after it opened, President Ronald Reagan visited the site for some sort of dedication ceremony. I remember when politicians would get their picture on the front page of the newspaper, touting their accomplishments in an improving economy. Good times. Then, late in Clinton's last term he pushed for, and Congress acquiesced to, giving China permanent most favored trade status. Not a peep from most people, they didn't care. I did care. I knew it would be the death knell for a huge portion of manufacturing, which was one-third of the economy at that time. So what was the lasting effect? According to BLS statistics, 40,000 factories in the USA closed in the next decade. That's, on average, 800 factories per state. Imagine the State Senators having to go around to attend a plant closing for each factory, one per day. On average they would have spent more then two years to perform that chore. No, Congress and the Precedent don't know best, UnPeople. Keep fighting against ObamaCare and amnesty. *kicks soap box angrily away*

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 03, 2013 03:19 AM (U2UQk)

100

I think those "Make A Wish" people do a great job.  Reguarding Harry Reid, I wonder how far they would go?

Posted by: Case at October 03, 2013 03:19 AM (wf3Kt)

101 Daily Caller calls out seven of the outrageous things the worthless cockholsters in this corrupt administration have done during this non-shutdown. "Optics in action".

http://tinyurl.com/k696zbz

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 06:49 AM (zZbNF)


One of my West Point classmates matched up previous shutdowns with Army football games.  Not once previously was a game cancelled during a shutdown.  In fact during our time there (79-83), there were two shutdowns during football season, and we never missed a game (boozing it up in the parking lot at a corporate tailgate put on by SAS counts as attending the game, right?)

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at October 03, 2013 03:20 AM (rpnNZ)

102 It's actually F. "YO" He's combining a screwed up ("Un) Affordable (Lack of) Care Act" and talk like a pirate day.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 03:21 AM (a4Omg)

103 56 I saw some disturbing report that Boehner wants some "grand bargain" out of this. Somebody has to get that boozy fuck away from the Sterno if he thinks this will work out with Stanley Ann's petulant little bastard.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 03, 2013 06:51 AM (2TqDD)


Amnesty. This is all a show so the GOP can turn the screws on the Tea Party to remain "unified" with GOP leadership when amnesty is thrown into the bargain.

Amnesty for a 1 year delay in Obamacare. I do not think it is a coincidence that the debt ceiling and rumored amnesty windows are similar.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 03, 2013 03:23 AM (O3XRD)

104 Tesla touted the Model S as being "the safest car in America." $70K lithium-ion chemistry electric car stalls, ignites after the Seattle driver drove over debris in the road. Stock Price Sound bite: that was a collision! the collision caused the fire, not the car's design.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 03:24 AM (MhA4j)

105 Vic brings it (especially) today. Thanks.

I now have about twenty things to be pissed about.

But business is good for now. Gov workers not working but hitting the links.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 03, 2013 03:25 AM (gHDMy)

106 Game's On, of course. "The decision affects this weekend's games only, and future games will be evaluated as events unfold." Who wins and by how much.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 03:27 AM (MhA4j)

107 I had a hard time writing the snark for these posts this morning.  I had to restrain myself from getting into banning territory by going overboard.


I think it is simply beyond belief that the MFM is still supporting him and hiding his illegal bullshit.  The stuff yesterday was beyond the pale.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 03:27 AM (zZbNF)

108 Stock Price Sound bite: that was a collision! the collision caused the fire, not the car's design.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 07:24 AM (MhA4j)

Workplace Safety Violation during a Overland Contingency Operation, OSHA and DHS deployed to invest in the education and protection of the driver.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 03, 2013 03:28 AM (O3XRD)

109 Everyone make sure you read post #60 and read all of it at the link.


And I hope Ace or one of the COBs picks it up for a whole thread.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 03:29 AM (zZbNF)

110 That is not the first time that I've heard people present the position that the amendments aren't part of the Constitution or anything.   The stupid, it burns.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 03, 2013 03:29 AM (Gk3SS)

111 15 -

At some point we're going to  have to pull the mask off.  Obamacare doesn't do anything to help the poor.  Poor people are going to continue to do what poor people do, which is make bad choices.  They won't pay premiums, they won't seek medical care in any reasonable way, and they won't pay "their share" of the bills when they get them.

Just like they do now.

So the difference is... what? 

Oh yeah, it shifts the costs of providing healthcare away from the government, away from  the Big Hospital lobby (and all the assorted suckers of teet attached to it), and back where they want  those costs to be absorbed:  YOU AND ME. 

The only question is, will it become evident to enough people BEFORE it goes into effect  or after?  The Dems are betting on after.  Their lives and livelihood depend on it.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 03, 2013 03:29 AM (BeSEI)

112 I think it is simply beyond belief that the MFM is still supporting him and hiding his illegal bullshit. The stuff yesterday was beyond the pale.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 07:27 AM (zZbNF)

His gig is their gig. His optics are their optics. They cannot expose him without exposing themselves. It is not only NOT beyond belief, it is a logical, effective strategy.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 03, 2013 03:29 AM (O3XRD)

113 107 I had a hard time writing the snark for these posts this morning. I had to restrain myself from getting into banning territory by going overboard. I think it is simply beyond belief that the MFM is still supporting him and hiding his illegal bullshit. The stuff yesterday was beyond the pale. Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 07:27 AM (zZbNF) Hey Vic: As I noted before, Levin was utterly rage-stroking last night at Harry Reid and it was all he could do to contain himself. If you multiply him with you, me, everyone here and the rest of the nation, I think we are fast approaching some sort of tipping point. What it is, how it manifests and what will happen is anyone's guess. But I am angry beyond description.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:30 AM (WjLUf)

114 103. But of course. Good observation. Still, if the goppers think there'll be voter submission to amnesty in electoral turn-out, they've burnt themselves out of re-election.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 03:31 AM (MhA4j)

115 Any new word on the real crisis in DC, the mountain lion on the loose there (there could be moar than one!)? @TwitchyTeam: Earlier: A mountain lion is on the loose in Washington DC ==> http://t.co/pR5Xq7l2GM

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at October 03, 2013 03:31 AM (4wLfM)

116

Yesterday, I asked a question If we have to subsidize insurance so that poor people can buy it, who is going to subsidize their deductibles that they can't pay because they didn't have the money to pay for the insurance in the first place?

 

 

No one, because they aren't buying it and won't buy it since they already get Medicaid for which they pay nothing out of pocket. If they need immediate care, it's off to the emergency room where they still pay nothing just like it was before. The geniusry of this plan is that since they won't be signing up for insurance, all of that money that would have been used for subsidies can be appropriated for some other handout program.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 03, 2013 03:31 AM (JxMoP)

117 112  His gig is their gig. His optics are their optics. They cannot expose him without exposing themselves. It is not only NOT beyond belief, it is a logical, effective strategy.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 03, 2013 07:29 AM (O3XRD)


There is one thing I have gained from this bullshit from the SOB 'n Chief.  He and the MFM have shown me how Hitler could rise to power and begin treating the Jews like cattle raised for the slaughter and get away with it.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 03:32 AM (zZbNF)

118 115 Any new word on the real crisis in DC, the mountain lion on the loose there (there could be moar than one!)? @TwitchyTeam: Earlier: A mountain lion is on the loose in Washington DC ==> http://t.co/pR5Xq7l2GM Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 03, 2013 07:31 AM (4wLfM) (mountain lion language) Go to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. He has a faint whiff of dog emanating from his pores...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:32 AM (WjLUf)

119 Why do I get the feeling that for once we are winning this and that the majority of people see it? Why do you get that feeling, J.J.? I don't get that feeling here. Serious question.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2013 03:33 AM (XOp5G)

120 Yesterday, I asked a question If we have to subsidize insurance so that poor people can buy it, who is going to subsidize their deductibles that they can't pay because they didn't have the money to pay for the insurance in the first place? That is a GREAT question because those cheap obamadeath plans come with a 5-6 THOUSDAND Dollar deductables and then co-payments. So the whole thing is a farce and a ponzi scheme

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2013 03:34 AM (1RQeV)

121 Public Service Warning: Some guy starts to sign up for ObamaCare in the morning, see's the price tag, and opts out, then... I received an email tonight at 5:00 P.M. informing me that my fine would be $4,037 and could be attached to my yearly income tax return. Then you make it to the “REPERCUSSIONS PORTION” for “non-payment” of yearly fine. First, your drivers license will be suspended until paid, and if you go 24 consecutive months with “Non-Payment” and you happen to be a home owner, you will have a federal tax lien placed on your home. You can agree to give your bank information so that they can easy “Automatically withdraw” your “penalties” weekly, bi-weekly or monthly! This by no means is “Free” or even “Affordable.” Sounds like his computer was already infected with some sort of virus or malware or keyboard recorder, and now someone is 'phishing' for his bank account information. Pass this information along to people to be cautious. Just because it's a .gov website means NOTHING as far as security if your computer is infected. If this dude punched in his social security number, as I'm sure it was required, some hacker/identity thief is gonna f&ck him up. You can select that paragraph in italics then search the net to find a link. It's all over the place.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 03, 2013 03:34 AM (U2UQk)

122 113  If you multiply him with you, me, everyone here and the rest of the nation, I think we are fast approaching some sort of tipping point.

What it is, how it manifests and what will happen is anyone's guess. But I am angry beyond description.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 07:30 AM (WjLUf)


The problem JJ is that "the rest of the nation" is not seeing this.  Every major news organization that I went through this morning is blaming the Republicans except Fox who is blaming both and isn't mentioning most of the shit that Obama pulled yesterday, or at least not in a manner that tells what was really happening.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 03:34 AM (zZbNF)

123 The only question is, will it become evident to enough people BEFORE it goes into effect or after? The Dems are betting on after. Their lives and livelihood depend on it. Posted by: BurtTC at October 03, 2013 07:29 AM (BeSEI) Along with the conservative enablers of Obama, including Krauthammer...

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 03:35 AM (MhA4j)

124 Why do I get the feeling that for once we are winning this and that the majority of people see it? Why do you get that feeling, J.J.? I don't get that feeling here. Serious question. Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2013 07:33 AM (XOp5G) Yeah J.J. I agree with Bannion, we are on the verge of being rick rolled here

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2013 03:35 AM (1RQeV)

125 Peter King was on Softball with Tweety yammering like bitch in heat that 30 or 40 Repubs want to destroy everything Preznit Historic First has done out of some type of malice and racism. I used to cut this fucking dimwit some slack because he was good on security issues but now he's as worthless as McRINO.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 03, 2013 03:35 AM (2TqDD)

126

@TwitchyTeam: Earlier: A mountain lion is on the loose in Washington DC ==> http://t.co/pR5Xq7l2GM

 

 

I'm sure this isn't the only cougar prowling the streets of DC.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 03, 2013 03:36 AM (JxMoP)

127 122 You can select that paragraph in italics then search the net to find a link. It's all over the place.

Posted by: Schr�dinger's cat at October 03, 2013 07:34 AM (U2UQk)


That is being spread by the Alex Jones site and it is bull shit.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 03:37 AM (zZbNF)

128 119 Why do I get the feeling that for once we are winning this and that the majority of people see it? Why do you get that feeling, J.J.? I don't get that feeling here. Serious question. Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2013 07:33 AM (XOp5G) Well, it seems as if Cruz, Lee and a few million of us have allowed Boehner to stiffen his spine. So far, he does not seem to be flinching. BUT, with all the talk of Amnesty, grand bargains and only 1 year delays for us lumpenproles, perhaps I am being too optimistic. I think the optics of this (I hate that expression) are biting SCOAMF and the MFM in the ass. I just get that sense that the propaganda ain't working - especially with the WW2 vets and Dana Bash's "impertinence" to the Searchlight pederast. Anecdotal and gut feelings, I know. But still. I gotta have something to hold on to.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:37 AM (WjLUf)

129 He and the MFM have shown me how Hitler could rise to power and begin treating the Jews like cattle raised for the slaughter and get away with it.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 07:32 AM (zZbNF)

This is why I cringe when people call Hitler a "madman." It masks the evil genius he perpetrated.  You don't stop the Hitlers of the world by stopping the up-front, easy to spot loonies that think the government is frying their brains with Y-rays from getting guns and constructing barriers to everyone else's liberty in the process.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 03, 2013 03:37 AM (O3XRD)

130 Re 60. The New Orleans US Attorney is the one that prosecuted James O'Keefe

Posted by: tmitsss at October 03, 2013 03:37 AM (Pa9vP)

131 Great hymns of the Faith- While "Blessed Assurance" is a much better known hymn by Fanny Crosby-the words of this hymn "Dark is the Night" are lovely "With His loving hand to guide, let the clouds above me roll, And the billows in their fury dash around me. I can brave the wildest storm, with His glory in my soul, I can sing amidst the tempest—Praise the Lord!" Music and words: http://nethymnal.org/htm/d/a/darknite.htm One of the many reasons I love Fanny Crosby is that when she was asked about whether she felt bad that she hadn't given the gift of sight she replied, "No, because the first person I will see after I die will be Jesus Christ" Fanny Crosby, a remarkably cheerful, faithful useful and hard worker for the Kingdom of God. Grace and peace,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 03:38 AM (a4Omg)

132 130 Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 03, 2013 07:37 AM (O3XRD You could only have a Hitler when you have several million people who agreed with him. He was just the "Gemeinschaftsorganisator"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:40 AM (WjLUf)

133 130 Underground Vulgarian,

Correct, and at some point you have to call the snake a snake.

Hitler relied a lot on the snowball effect.  You just keep on enabling more and more evil until one day magically societal norms and accepted tyranny reach critical mass and folk just don't want to be the nail that sticks up to get hammered rather than ensure norms are honored.  I encourage everyone to read about the relationship of Darth Shicklegruber and the Christian faith as the "frog in the pot."

Ogabe has DHS advisors sporting terrorist symbology on Twatter openly now.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:41 AM (9jfyN)

134 126 I used to cut this fucking dimwit some slack because he was good on security issues but now he's as worthless as McRINO. Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 03, 2013 07:35 AM (2TqDD) He was only good on the Islam-nazis to cover up his support of the IRA. He's a Long Island crook... and terrorist supporter. Fuck him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:42 AM (WjLUf)

135

*Most* Service Academy games will go on, here at the United States Merchant Marine Academy all sports are cancelled and we are about to get sent home should this last any longer.

Posted by: USMMAMoron at October 03, 2013 03:42 AM (F1tgE)

136 Sven !!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2013 03:42 AM (XOp5G)

137 That is being spread by the Alex Jones site and it is bull shit. Alex Jones may be goofy, but I'm seeing it everywhere. Even here, yesterday.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 03, 2013 03:43 AM (U2UQk)

138 133 JJ Sefton,

Yup the asshole at the head of the snake is a symptom not a causative.

I meant what I said about "civics" I'd wager 35% of the voting population could not get a 25 on a citizenship test.

THAT is how Democrats happen.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:43 AM (9jfyN)

139 131 Re 60. The New Orleans US Attorney is the one that prosecuted James O'Keefe

Posted by: tmitsss at October 03, 2013 07:37 AM (Pa9vP)


He and his compatriots should be disbarred from what that judge said.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 03:43 AM (zZbNF)

140 *Most* Service Academy games will go on, here at the United States Merchant Marine Academy all sports are cancelled and we are about to get sent home should this last any longer. Posted by: USMMAMoron at October 03, 2013 07:42 AM (F1tgE) Are you a student there or work there?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2013 03:43 AM (1RQeV)

141 137 Sean Bannion,

Dr. Bannion...

I hope you weather the shutdown well.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:43 AM (9jfyN)

142 141 NeverGiveUp,

Either way hats off.  I may try to send Lad10077 to the USMMA should the Coast Guard not work out.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:44 AM (9jfyN)

143 139 133 JJ Sefton, Yup the asshole at the head of the snake is a symptom not a causative. I meant what I said about "civics" I'd wager 35% of the voting population could not get a 25 on a citizenship test. THAT is how Democrats happen. Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 07:43 AM (9jfyN) And it's one of the reasons why the WW2 vets are a target. When that generation goes, the knowledge of what America is supposed to be will be gone forever. And they've had a 50 year head-start (heh) by taking over the schools.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:45 AM (WjLUf)

144 138  Alex Jones may be goofy, but I'm seeing it everywhere. Even here, yesterday.

Posted by: Schr�dinger's cat at October 03, 2013 07:43 AM (U2UQk)


Yes it has reached the level of Internet meme myth. It is still bull shit.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 03:45 AM (zZbNF)

145 Either way hats off. I may try to send Lad10077 to the USMMA should the Coast Guard not work out. Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 07:44 AM (9jfyN) Why not it's a great deal and a real nice campus also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2013 03:45 AM (1RQeV)

146 Dr. Bannion... I hope you weather the shutdown well. Thanks. Only at DEFCON 4 right now. By Monday I'll be at three.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2013 03:46 AM (XOp5G)

147 I think J.J. is right. Obama and Reid are looking bad. Hell we have Reid on record now saying "fuck kids with cancer--60 grand a year gov. file clerks have problems too". Stand fast and they will implode.

We aren't going to get repeal yet, but we might get the Vitter amendment and the mandate delay.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 03, 2013 03:47 AM (P/gm7)

148 144 JJ Sefton,

Well enough of the Boomers are good folk who were trained I'd put the timeline at 12-18 years more.

The thing is as the WW2 gen dies off fewer and fewer people who were openly willing to die for the old order are extant.

You want to know why all bluster aside I am now firmly in favor of a national break-up?

That is why.....if the American Experiment is not saved this generation the enlightenment is finally dead and the Frankfurt School wins.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:47 AM (9jfyN)

149 I think Cruz' filibuster on the Senate floor opened a damn. I also think Boehner knows that a lot of people resonate with the idea of "Make DC listen". They do feel that their Reps don't care. In addition, a lot of people get news from other sources from the mainstream media. It does not help that Obama closed the WWII monument, nor does it help the Dems that the Obamacare excahnges were such a debacle or that Harry Reid said, "Why should I want to help one child with cancer?. I think the Dems are under stress at the point and it is coming out in less than good soundbyte words and optics. That doesn't mean things will go our way politically, but there is a little glimmer of hope here IMO. My suggestion is that people write to Boehner to tell him keep up the pressure and to people like Rand, Cruz and Lee-to thank them -as well as , to tell them you're praying for them-if you are. I think words of affirmation mean a lot to conservatives like those fellows in the trenches.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 03:47 AM (a4Omg)

150 Either way hats off. I may try to send Lad10077 to the USMMA should the Coast Guard not work out. Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 07:44 AM (9jfyN) Both Massachusetts and Maine have good Merchant Marine Academies too.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2013 03:48 AM (XOp5G)

151 148 We aren't going to get repeal yet, but we might get the Vitter amendment and the mandate delay. Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 03, 2013 07:47 AM (P/gm7) Rush said this yesterday and I have to agree. We are a helluva lot stronger than we think we are. The MFM and the Dems may win often, but they don't win every time. We beat back Hillary Care, we beat back Amnesty multiple times and we beat back the gun grabbers even after several horrible incidents that were perfect for media manipulation. Boehner would have caved on any and all of the above and he didn't because we stood up and people like Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and Louie Gohmert made the case. COURAGE! AUX BARRICADES! Fight.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:49 AM (WjLUf)

152 Is Sven banned or not? Was it an "accidental" banning by this dogshit software or something done deliberately? I'm kind of embarrassed to be commenting here after the shitty way Miss Marple and dagny were treated like garbage.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 03, 2013 03:50 AM (2TqDD)

153 21 So far I think our side is winning. 


All three Philly-area Republicans - Gerlach, Meehan, and Fitzpatrick - are ready to cave.  Trust me, the GOP will cave by Monday.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 03, 2013 03:50 AM (kFnmp)

154 151 Sean Bannion,

Yeah I think I'd prefer he go to Maine most especially if I migrate to the Maritimes.

The boy thinks he has sea legs....God knows where he got the notion his mom and I are dogfaces.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:50 AM (9jfyN)

155 "I came to DC to fix gov't, not shut it down. ItÂ’s time for House to vote for a clean, short-term funding bill to bring Senate to the table" - @RepMeehan


Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 03, 2013 03:51 AM (kFnmp)

156 153 Captain Hate,

I was banned for cause.

I am okay with my banning.  I am saddened by Dagny and Miss Marple's loss.  I broke the rules, and I paid a price.

As I said to Ace I could make arguments about how defined the rules I broke are, but I have been enough of a problem child and try to have too much integrity to do so.

I am happy to be back.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:52 AM (9jfyN)

157 Yes it has reached the level of Internet meme myth. It is still bull shit. Would you punch in personal information, including social security number, and post it to a *gov website? Because if you think that's 100% safe and secure, I have a friend who is a Nigerian prince that has an investment opportunity for you.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 03, 2013 03:52 AM (U2UQk)

158 156 "I came to DC to fix gov't, not shut it down. ItÂ’s time for House to vote for a clean, short-term funding bill to bring Senate to the table" - @RepMeehan Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 03, 2013 07:51 AM (kFnmp) Somebody step on that crumb! Not. One. Step. Back.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:53 AM (WjLUf)

159 BTW- Part of the reason for the Dem's Law of the Land schtick is to create a sense of inevitability. Any sort of delay or backtracking that the House can impose on them counts as a win.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 03, 2013 03:53 AM (P/gm7)

160
Somebody step on that crumb! Not. One. Step. Back.

I worked with Meehan on some local cases when he was a federal prosecutor.  Good man, but really, really likes being a politician.  IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 03, 2013 03:54 AM (kFnmp)

161 156 Wyatt Earp,

Yeah the correct response is "fuck you pass a fucking budget or shut it the fuck down."

that is a message *we* the electorate have to send to DC.

If it takes a 75% democrat caucus so be it.

It enrages me that the media basically enables the democrats game of "passive-aggressive easy mode politics"....

given that the current GOP caucus refuses to do battle on the media front we're doomed to lose probably.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 03:54 AM (9jfyN)

162 There would be nothing like an 88 year old vet hitting an Obama stooge over the head with his crutch for trying to stop him from seeing the memorial.  That would be the "Emperor Has No Clothes" moment.

Posted by: Case at October 03, 2013 03:54 AM (wf3Kt)

163 And what the fuck is this "clean" funding bullshit?! The House is the branch that funds the government how it wants and where it wants. Harry Reid and the Dems should present a regular budget - like they are required by law and which they have not done for 5 years.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:55 AM (WjLUf)

164

Hitler relied a lot on the snowball effect. You just keep on enabling more and more evil until one day magically societal norms and accepted tyranny reach critical mass and folk just don't want to be the nail that sticks up to get hammered rather than ensure norms are honored. I encourage everyone to read about the relationship of Darth Shicklegruber and the Christian faith as the "frog in the pot."

 

What concerns me is the slow ramp up in attempted intimidation and threats of violence. Eventually that's going to boil over, someone is going to be killed, and what we as a people do after that is going to be crucial. I look back at the rise of the Gracchi  brothers in the Roman Republic and see a lot of similar themes in play both then and now. Obvious structural problems, a powerful elite who want to keep the system closed to any competition, a large uneducated mob just waiting to be used for violence, and demagogical political figures willing to exploit the situation for their own personal gain. Everything changed when Tiberius Gracchus was murdered because it was then that those striving for power saw that violence was a perfectly acceptable tool.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 03, 2013 03:55 AM (JxMoP)

165 Either way hats off. I may try to send Lad10077 to the USMMA should the Coast Guard not work out.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 07:44 AM (9jfyN)

***

I had a friend who was a Merchant Marine. He got sideways when he stumbled onto some "Authorities" who were smuggling dope and they framed him. He couldn't get anyone to listen and he lost his M.M. credentials.
He went crazy and shot up a Luby's Restaurant killing a score of people.

Posted by: Beto at October 03, 2013 03:55 AM (VWfCN)

166 #154 If so then fuck the Repukes because they officially stand for nothing but getting their pansy asses powdered with talc and blow. Slick has even stated that he was ready to cave of the Repubs had shown some spine. No more sellouts!

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 03, 2013 03:56 AM (2TqDD)

167 166 He went crazy and shot up a Luby's Restaurant killing a score of people. Posted by: Beto at October 03, 2013 07:55 AM (VWfCN) Holy shit. You knew that guy?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:57 AM (WjLUf)

168 154 21 So far I think our side is winning. All three Philly-area Republicans - Gerlach, Meehan, and Fitzpatrick - are ready to cave. Trust me, the GOP will cave by Monday. Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 03, 2013 07:50 AM (kFnmp) Burn down the phones, intertubes, faxes and oatmeal jar-string lines.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:58 AM (WjLUf)

169

"I came to DC to fix gov't, not shut it down. ItÂ’s time for House to vote
for a clean, short-term funding bill to bring Senate to the table" - @RepMeehan

 

 

A leadership with any stones would tell these guys that anyone who steps out of line loses all committee positions and will get no NRCC funding in the next campaign.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 03, 2013 03:59 AM (JxMoP)

170 170 A leadership with any stones would tell these guys that anyone who steps out of line loses all committee positions and will get no NRCC funding in the next campaign. Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 03, 2013 07:59 AM (JxMoP) Call Boehner's office with that suggestion.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 03:59 AM (WjLUf)

171 Good morning! NFL network interviewing Kurt Coleman, Eagles safety, whose dad had - and beat - breast cancer. Just thought I mention it b/c I know a lot of folks around here hate tge NFL's pink month. In other news, nanny staters around here are trying to ban wood stoves and fireplaces. In UTAH! I hate these pricks.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 03, 2013 03:59 AM (5H6zj)

172 158 Would you punch in personal information, including social security number, and post it to a *gov website? Because if you think that's 100% safe and secure, I have a friend who is a Nigerian prince that has an investment opportunity for you.

Posted by: Schr�dinger's cat at October 03, 2013 07:52 AM (U2UQk)


I am talking about the cost of the healthcare.  Is that thing supposed to be a statement that the web site has been hacked by the con artists in Nigeria?


I didn't get that from the initial read on it.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 03:59 AM (zZbNF)

173 On a cheery note, another free-lance socialist bites the dust, thanks to a good businessman in the Seattle suburbs: http://tinyurl.com/kfcw6r8

....

A heart-warming story.

I have a little tear in my eye.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 03, 2013 07:14 AM (DmNpO)

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"The 21-year-old suspect was booked into the King County Jail just after 5:30 a.m. Wednesday on investigation of burglary. He is also being held on a bench warrant that was issued Sept. 17 after he failed to show up in court to resolve a November 2012 violation for driving without a license..."

No doubt one of those illegal Norwegian immigrants that slipped past Sheriff Joe while he was profiling poor Mexicans.

Good Morning Everyone!

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 03, 2013 04:00 AM (OtQXp)

174 I knew some Merchant Marines too. We used to trade home remedies for certain "ailments" that befell young single military men in the vicinity of Subic Bay... one such remedy involved anbesol, plastic wrap and ace bandages...

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 03, 2013 04:00 AM (/OUqZ)

175 Republicans are in such desperate straits that they have literally resorted to accusing me of not caring about kids with cancer. Shameful ---- In a related story, reports that Boehner was stuffing words down Reid's throat have been confirmed.

Posted by: Socalcon at October 03, 2013 04:01 AM (K6CHr)

176 166 -

Ummm, yeah, there's a little bit more to that story, beyond "he was phramed, I tells ya!" 

And even if there wasn't, nothing justifies what he did.  He was not a good kid.  He didn't get pushed into doing what he did.  He made the conscious choice to walk into a busy restaurant and willfully kill people.

That's evil.  Any other discussion of  what "motivated" him is  reckless  and  pointless and stupid. 

Posted by: BurtTC at October 03, 2013 04:01 AM (BeSEI)

177 He was threatening a massive protest if anyone laid a finger on a WW2 veteran trying to go to the memorial. But his subtext was that SCOAMF is playing with fire. Agreed. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 06:53 AM (WjLUf J.J. I donÂ’t work Wednesdays and always listen to Rush & most of local radio host after him here. I stop listening to radio because Levin is on an hour delay here. I read about epic rant & listened to it late last night. Levin is right, the men ( sorry if I am offending women) that fought in WWII should be allowed to visit their memorial. TFG is a SCOAMT and petty little SOB.

Posted by: CarolT at October 03, 2013 04:01 AM (z4WKX)

178 170 A leadership with any stones would tell these guys that anyone who steps out of line loses all committee positions and will get no NRCC funding in the next campaign. Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 03, 2013 07:59 AM (JxMoP) Better yet, call the individual miscreants' offices and tell them you are Speaker Boehner's special assistant Ron Davis (everyone has a Ron Davis working for them somewhere) and that he told you to tell them to STFU or be assigned to Shelia Jackass Lee's committee.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 04:01 AM (WjLUf)

179

Call Boehner's office with that suggestion.

 

 

I may as well talk to the wall.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 03, 2013 04:01 AM (JxMoP)

180 Captain Kangaroo - a quiet friend from my hectic youth. Remembered as one of the good guys. Who got old and ended up looking like.. the Capt did in my youth. What kind of Capt or Mr Rogers is there for kids now?

Posted by: mindful webworker, looking for enlightenment at October 03, 2013 04:01 AM (pK8nF)

181 165 Ghost of Lee Atwater,

Perversely Cicero himself used the Gracchi as the precedent needed to further empower Pompey.

I would give anything to know whether or not Cicero felt  the use of the Gracchi was the beginning of the end of the final throes of the Roman Republic after he was condemned.

Sulla is the man most responsible for the death of the Roman Republic in all likelihood if you Jedi handwave away the evil that was the Gracchi.

Sulla begat Pompey who begat Caesar who birthed, finally Augustus.

The thing is the Roman people no longer gave a fuck.

We're well on our way here.

Republic represents man trusting man to carry his own weight as much as possible, infantilizing the public enables "national daddy and mommy" and the people playing THAT game in this nation are the most hedonistic evil bastards in our faux aristocracy...

just like Rome.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:02 AM (9jfyN)

182 168 One of my best friends dated his sister. He was one of the best people you could ever hope to meet. When he found out the govt was totally corrupt and criminal it broke his mind. I believe they had started him on Psych Drugs for his depression. Seems all these guys are under Psych handing before they snap.

Posted by: Beto at October 03, 2013 04:02 AM (VWfCN)

183 given that the current GOP caucus refuses to do battle on the media front we're doomed to lose probably.

So far, I think they know they're winning.  It's the outliers who are the problem.  They need to be brought into line, post haste.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 03, 2013 04:02 AM (gA69l)

184 My Great Uncle was a Merchant Marine captain. Great guy.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 03, 2013 04:02 AM (5H6zj)

185 178 Levin is right, the men ( sorry if I am offending women) that fought in WWII should be allowed to visit their memorial. TFG is a SCOAMT and petty little SOB. Posted by: CarolT at October 03, 2013 08:01 AM (z4WKX) I will travel on my own dime from NYC to personally escort any vet(s) into the site. I lost an uncle whom I never met who was killed on Saipan and every one of these men and women represent him. SCOAMF is slapping them in the face and I will not stand for it. Fuck this. I have had enough.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 04:03 AM (WjLUf)

186 183 -

Wow.


The only practical difference between Hennard and Hasan is that one shouted "allah akbar" as he  killed people,  and the other didn't. 

Posted by: BurtTC at October 03, 2013 04:05 AM (BeSEI)

187 Better yet, call the individual miscreants' offices and tell them you are Speaker Boehner's special assistant Ron Davis (everyone has a Ron Davis working for them somewhere) and that he told you to tell them to STFU or be assigned to Shelia Jackass Lee's committee. Tell them they'll be assigned to give sponge baths to Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 03, 2013 04:06 AM (T6c9C)

188 183 Posted by: BurtTC at October 03, 2013 08:05 AM (BeSEI) That was his mistake, not shouting it. He'd be a victim of American/Jooish imperialism.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 04:06 AM (WjLUf)

189 I wonder what would happen if a national movement of people reading Paine's Common Sense on street corners spontaneously occurred. I'm sure DHS would find some excuse.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2013 04:07 AM (XOp5G)

190 Time to go to work.

Any discussion that centers around whether and how to justify  mass murderers is a discussion I need to walk away from. 

Posted by: BurtTC at October 03, 2013 04:07 AM (BeSEI)

191 oh, yeah: good morning! Brother Sefton, I hadn't actually read your whole list for a while. Is 'malignant medical mandates" relatively new or had I just forgotten that one?

Posted by: mindful webworker, looking for enlightenment at October 03, 2013 04:07 AM (RNijH)

192 I am talking about the cost of the healthcare. Is that thing supposed to be a statement that the web site has been hacked by the con artists in Nigeria? I didn't get that from the initial read on it. I read it differently from the start. I knew the numbers were not accurate as far as the dollar penalty, the threat of a lien on the house. I read the entire thing as a bullshit email, not coming from the government. It was a classic 'phishing' expedition, most likely because the individual has a computer that is corrupted by some malware. Read this for how it's done. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging The government did not send that individual that email, yet I believe people should be wary. There's no way the government is going to send out a public service announcement that their little brainchild software has the potential to bankrupt a person through identity theft.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 03, 2013 04:07 AM (U2UQk)

193 192 oh, yeah: good morning! Brother Sefton, I hadn't actually read your whole list for a while. Is 'malignant medical mandates" relatively new or had I just forgotten that one? Posted by: mindful webworker, looking for enlightenment at October 03, 2013 08:07 AM (RNijH) That was there at the beginning. One of my better ones, if I say so myself.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 04:08 AM (WjLUf)

194 Vic @ 28 A link to brief HR bill passed by Senate 9-30-13 http://beta.congress.gov//bill/113th-congress/house-bill/3210/

Posted by: Socalcon at October 03, 2013 04:09 AM (K6CHr)

195 @187 Didn't Texas become a "shall issue" state after that?

Posted by: Gran at October 03, 2013 04:10 AM (mw0FO)

196 Maybe we will hear from Joe Biden today.

Posted by: Case at October 03, 2013 04:10 AM (wf3Kt)

197 190 Sean Bannion,

"Crazy Tea Baggers" hell SEIU goons would probably swarm us.

Part of me would love to get a bulk discount on Common Sense, and The Constitution and Bill of Rights and use the American Legion and VFW to distribute them.

The other vital thing is bringing back the Americanism and Government contests the American Legion used to run.

I won 250 bucks for an essay on economic and political liberty's innate efficiency in use of natural resources and labor.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:11 AM (9jfyN)

198 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 07:47 AM (a4Omg) I sent emails to both Ted Crus & Mike Lee thanking them for standing up for us. I tried sending Boehner one to stand up to them last week but I used wrong address. I will call, I believe the world thinks The JEF is this centuryÂ’s Neville Chamberlain & Boehner has to treat him that way. Boehner has to know that our standing in the world has diminished with that fool as president, no one is afraid of us. I donÂ’t think they love us anymore than when GWB was POTUS. I canÂ’t wait until the LIVs find out that their insurance isnÂ’t free!

Posted by: CarolT at October 03, 2013 04:11 AM (z4WKX)

199 Fuck this. I have had enough.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 08:03 AM (WjLUf)


My Dad survived WW II in the Pacific theater, but is no longer with us.  Nonetheless, this arrogant pseudo-president and his minions are unbelievably despicable, and if my Dad were still alive, I would personally escort him to the Memorial with a battery powered sawzall and a dozen of so carbide blades to assist in the entry.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 03, 2013 04:11 AM (XdnQT)

200 191 BurtTC,

not in the mood to discuss IPAB then?

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:11 AM (9jfyN)

201 1.2B Internet drug operation... Didn't follow link.* Geriatric Canadian pharmaceuticals? (* Gave up on tinyurls on cell rurally... too many gateway errs)

Posted by: mindful webworker, looking for enlightenment at October 03, 2013 04:12 AM (MwpNJ)

202 193 Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 03, 2013 08:07 AM (U2UQk) Dear Friend: Please excuse the intrusion on your day. I am President Baroke Hoosin Obuma of United Estates and recently, due to Tee Time Party refusing to due they duty, I cannot give free healthcare to needy children and veterinarians. Please send $5,000 via Western Union plus social security number to me, c/o US Treasury and my assistant Mr. Benjamon Letet Burnankee, to cover all modalities and you will receive Obamacare card. Remain blessed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 04:12 AM (WjLUf)

203 I know how to a) unite the right and b) balance the budget. $100-throw-hit-Juan-Williams-in-the-face-with-a-chair booth. I get a 5% commission. You're welcome. And good morning, fellow extremists/terrorists/hostage takers/people who can do fifth grade math.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 03, 2013 04:12 AM (659DL)

204 195 follow-up Text: Pay Our Military Act - Appropriates for FY2014, out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, for any period during which interim or full-year appropriations for FY2014 are not in effect, such sums as are necessary to provide pay and allowances to: (1) members of the Armed Forces, including reserve components, who perform active service during such period; and (2) civilian personnel and contractors of the Department of Defense (DOD) (and the Department of Homeland Security [DHS] in the case of the Coast Guard) whom the Secretary concerned determines are providing support to such members of the Armed Forces. Requires the appropriations and funds made available and authority granted pursuant to this Act to remain available until whichever of the following first occurs: enactment of an appropriation (including a continuing appropriation) for any purpose for which amounts are made available in this Act, enactment of the applicable regular or continuing appropriations resolution or other Act without any appropriation for such purpose, or January 1, 2015.

Posted by: Socalcon at October 03, 2013 04:13 AM (K6CHr)

205 Posted by: Schr�dinger's cat at October 03, 2013 08:07 AM (U2UQk)



OK, I see your point.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 04:13 AM (zZbNF)

206 NYC is about to elect an openly Marxist mayor. One impact will be the return of the lawless days, pre-Giuliani http://bit.ly/1a247yG

Posted by: MTF at October 03, 2013 04:13 AM (qf2kI)

207 Just because it's a .gov website means NOTHING as far as security if your computer is infected...
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 03, 2013 07:34 AM (U2UQk)
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If I were inclined to do such things I would be diligently working on making every Obamacare sign-up site a watering hole.

http://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/watering-hole-attack/

There are probably fist-fights going on in the hacker community right now over who is going to pWn these things because they serve huge traffic and can easily be infected since their security will certainly be teh shitz.

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 03, 2013 04:14 AM (OtQXp)

208 "Government shut down" has still not made it onto the Bing popular search bar.  Merck cutting jobs has, as has a new sitcom by some woman named Akerman.

The alphabets might keep yelling the Dem talking points, but only the partisans are listening.

Nightmare scenario for the Dems, what if they created a shutdown, managed to blame it on the GOP, and no one cared?  Because right now, in the LIV world, no one cares.  The new Pearl Jam album on 10/17 is much more important.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2013 04:14 AM (wCEyv)

209

That is not the first time that I've heard people present the position that the amendments aren't part of the Constitution or anything. The stupid, it burns.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 03, 2013 07:29 AM (Gk3SS)

----------------

 

*Scoffs*

What do you know about the law?

Posted by: Harry Lawrence at October 03, 2013 04:14 AM (Zswg6)

210 I guess this shutdown could be resolved if the senate would agree to be subject to the same ACA law that the citizenry is. If this is true why isn't it being sold that way?

Posted by: redenzo at October 03, 2013 04:15 AM (vx61Q)

211 If anyone cares Meggie Mac will be on the Opie & Anthony show on SiriusXM at 9 AM.

Posted by: Matt the Barbarian at October 03, 2013 04:15 AM (40Ex+)

212 207 NYC is about to elect an openly Marxist mayor. One impact will be the return of the lawless days, pre-Giuliani http://bit.ly/1a247yG Posted by: MTF at October 03, 2013 08:13 AM (qf2kI) Well, here's hoping we get the concomitant Bernhard Goetz when the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 04:15 AM (WjLUf)

213 Reminder: I gave it a week until one of the exchange sites is catastrophically hacked. There again, how would one tell the difference.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 03, 2013 04:15 AM (659DL)

214 "whom the Secretary determines" refers to Treasury Secretary- JugEars' lackey.

Posted by: Socalcon at October 03, 2013 04:15 AM (K6CHr)

215 208 Nighthawk,

Were I an evil man I'd counsel the right sponsoring hackers their own as the leftoid activists seem to do.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:15 AM (9jfyN)

216 Thanks for the THC Andy.  It's shaping up to be a very nice Thursday.  The new brony shirt is an even better chick magnet than the three wolf moon shirt.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget[/i] at October 03, 2013 04:15 AM (epxV4)

217 195 Vic @ 28
A link to brief HR bill passed by Senate 9-30-13
http://beta.congress.gov//bill/113th-congress/house-bill/3210/

Posted by: Socalcon at October 03, 2013 08:09 AM (K6CHr)


That's what I was talking about in my post earlier.  There is a bill that was passed in both houses and Obama signed it.  So there was no need to send DOD employees home/

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 04:16 AM (zZbNF)

218 195 205 215 Why is this info not front and center under the lapdogs noses?

Posted by: Socalcon at October 03, 2013 04:17 AM (K6CHr)

219 218 Vic,

Silly VIC I Momjeans I-the SCOAMF want there to be as much pain and antipathy as possible I am OZ! Damnit or at least "The Wiz."

//Barack Obama's petulant inner child

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:17 AM (9jfyN)

220 202 1.2B Internet drug operation...

Didn't follow link.* Geriatric Canadian pharmaceuticals?

(* Gave up on tinyurls on cell rurally... too many gateway errs)

Posted by: mindful webworker, looking for enlightenment at October 03, 2013 08:12 AM (MwpNJ)


Supposed selling all kinds of "drugs" not pharmacy type stuff.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 04:17 AM (zZbNF)

221 "There are probably fist-fights going on in the hacker community right now over who is going to pWn these things because they serve huge traffic and can easily be infected since their security will certainly be teh shitz."

There was no security testing performed on the sites at all.  The crashes they are experiencing are tested for during the testing period.  None of them would have passed and been granted their ATO.  Therefore, these sites are not only wide open, but the hacker community already owns them.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2013 04:17 AM (wCEyv)

222 Good morning! NFL network interviewing Kurt Coleman, Eagles safety, whose dad had - and beat - breast cancer. Just thought I mention it b/c I know a lot of folks around here hate tge NFL's pink month. In other news, nanny staters around here are trying to ban wood stoves and fireplaces. In UTAH! I hate these pricks. Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 03, 2013 07:59 AM (5H6zj) I hate hate hate hate the NFL pink month but it is good to hear that there is at least an attempt to point out that men get breast cancer too. Yes, it's rare but it does occur. Wasn't there a guy who had breast cancer and who attempted to access the various state programs for assistance with medical care and was told that he couldn't because they were for women only and he had to sue on equal protection grounds? What the hell is wrong with wood stoves and fireplaces? Let me guess, emits some kind of air pollution that causes asthma or somesuch.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 03, 2013 04:17 AM (VtjlW)

223 http://tinyurl.com/ldll336

FoxBiz showing its editors are still moonbatty themselves...

Yup the dollar dropped to an 8 month low based solely on the budget impasse that is oh 3 days old now....

Spigotnomics has NOTHING to do with it.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:19 AM (9jfyN)

224 has still not made it onto the Bing popular search bar.

It was in there for about 5 minutes yesterday around 7 am central...but it disappeared.  People just don't care.

The standard libs on my facebook account have been extremely quiet the last few days.

Posted by: GMan at October 03, 2013 04:19 AM (sxq57)

225 223 Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 03, 2013 08:17 AM (VtjlW) Richard Roundtree, aka "Shaft," is a breast cancer survivor also.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 04:20 AM (WjLUf)

226 223 AlexTheChick,

When not being a bomb throwing psycho I do favor kickstarting small workshops.

It'd be nice to have a Moron member who could craft wood stoves.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:20 AM (9jfyN)

227 Going for the morning walk folks.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 04:20 AM (zZbNF)

228

>>Therefore, these sites are not only wide open, but the hacker community already owns them.

.

.I agree.  That's why they had all that trouble yesterday.  It wasn't a gajillion people trying to get on, it was the hackers taking over and making multiple back doors.

 

Those site are a veritable all you can eat buffet for those guys.

Posted by: Registered Voter at October 03, 2013 04:20 AM (MZGhy)

229 I believe the Obama admin realizes that it was really bad optics to keep out honor flight vets from the WWII memorial. They're letting them in-just not anyone else.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 04:20 AM (a4Omg)

230 Yup the dollar dropped to an 8 month low based solely on the budget impasse that is oh 3 days old now.... It's worse than that--the unshutdown reduces the money supply (a bit) and this makes the value of the dollar DECREASE. Idiots.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 03, 2013 04:21 AM (659DL)

231 61 Moar AGW! Major snow to hit Rocky Mountain States. http://tinyurl.com/mj9e5xj Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 06:53 AM (zZbNF) ----- Prediction: "CLIMATE CHANGE"!!! Snow will melt, rivers rise, flooding caused... As has occurred occasionally the past eleventy thousand years...BUT, man-caused, in this instance.

Posted by: Socalcon at October 03, 2013 04:21 AM (K6CHr)

232

@Locke_Wiggins @Bidenshairplugs Amendments are amendments to the constitution...not laws! When the president signed the ACA it became a law!

— Harry Lawrence (@thatswhatsup333) October 2, 2013

 

Lord, please forgive my blasphemy, b/c Jesus H. Christ.  *FACEPALM*

 

But really, this is nice to know.  Thanks, Harry!   I'll go right out and buy myself a few slaves.   I figure that's the least I'm owed since I'm no longer allowed to vote.   But hey, at least none of us have to pay income tax anymore!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 03, 2013 04:21 AM (4df7R)

233 Richard Roundtree, aka "Shaft," is a breast cancer survivor also. He can take it.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 03, 2013 04:21 AM (659DL)

234 Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 03, 2013 08:17 AM (VtjlW)

They are not supplied with fuel by a company that has been granted a monopoly by government, therefore they are suspect.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2013 04:22 AM (/kU/5)

235 Good morning!

This place has rules?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 03, 2013 04:24 AM (AYOav)

236 235 Charlie Brown's Dildo,

CBD break the law...the more of us that do so the more impossible enforcement becomes.

Hell I almost feel I have a duty to break bad law.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:24 AM (9jfyN)

237 236 Chi-Town Jerry,

Indeed it does.

You'll notice I am posting in the am Thread this morning and we have more than 150 comments.

I'll leave it at that.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:25 AM (9jfyN)

238 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 08:15 AM (WjLUf)

I think the dark times are starting already.

There is tremendous mis-reporting, under-reporting and flat out faking of crime stats in NYC.

If the Sandinista wins....move.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2013 04:26 AM (/kU/5)

239 ((sven))

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 03, 2013 04:26 AM (8JJ6O)

240 Re: exchange websites, I recall hearing (reading?) that facilitators had been given instructions to be cautious when faxing tax returns... They need tax returns for what? Exactly. Wouldn't SSN Or TIN suffice?

Posted by: Socalcon at October 03, 2013 04:26 AM (K6CHr)

241 I'd give my left nut for better healthcare coverage.  Oh wait...

Posted by: Lance Armstrong at October 03, 2013 04:27 AM (b0x7s)

242

Have to go to work, so I don't know if this was already said, but guess what?  Normandy was closed yesterday.  Yes, the shutdown has reached foreign shows.  Obama is a petty, epic douche.  From the NY Post:

 

 

"Tourists travelling to Omaha Beach to pay their respects to the 9,387 military dead at the Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial will find it closed, a victim of the U.S. governmentÂ’s partial shutdown.

The site overlooking the D-Day invasion beaches is one of 24 U.S. military cemeteries overseas that have closed to visitors since Monday. Ten more cemeteries in in France, as well as others in various European countries as well as Mexico, Panama, Tunisia and the Philippines, will remain closed for the duration of the shutdown."

Posted by: runningrn at October 03, 2013 04:27 AM (PLOz8)

243 I'm a little skeptical of the reports that the Philly and NoVa GOP members are ready to cave.  I don't doubt for a second that if a clean CR came up for vote, that they would vote for it.  But I suspect their public statements are made for the folks back home as a CYA.  I doubt they are seriously pressuring leadership to cave.

I think that the "damage" to the GOP is already factored into the calculations now.  There is no real benefit to giving in at this point, and a whole lot of downside.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2013 04:27 AM (wCEyv)

244 Posted by: Socalcon at October 03, 2013 08:26 AM (K6CHr) verify income to see if they qualify for assistance

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 03, 2013 04:27 AM (8JJ6O)

245 I have a 100% rate with being hacked. Someone once, it wasn't here, posted a link which I clicked on, thinking it was legit. Some free 'Internet Security' thing popped up and I tried to kill it. I noticed my hard drive light was still firing away. Long story short, despite clicking 'no' and 'X'ing it, it still installed. Within a week I got an email from my IP that they had to shut off a port on my cable modem because *I* was sending spam emails. These people are good, very good. The American public is gonna get screwed twice, once with ObamaCare, then again if their personal information is stolen.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 03, 2013 04:27 AM (U2UQk)

246 Re #178 and #200 - look up the Honor Flight chapter in your area, and sign up -- it costs $400 to be an escort - you are assigned a "buddy" for the day - a WWII vet, who you stay with and assist in any way necessary for the trip. My husband went on a flight last summer and it was truly a life-changing event for him. We are losing them much too fast these days -- they need people to be escorts in order for the program to work. The more people who sign up, the more vets can go.

Posted by: Rohon at October 03, 2013 04:28 AM (Me3Ag)

247 "In other news, nanny staters around here are trying to ban wood stoves and fireplaces. In UTAH! I hate these pricks."


I'm guessing they're using the seasonal inversion layer and resulting smog an excuse to shove their ecomorality down everyone's throat.  Cutting wood stoves and making everyone walk to work wouldn't do a damn thing to fix it either.

Maybe if they just move the front range over a few miles for better ventilation...

Posted by: Jaws at October 03, 2013 04:28 AM (4I3Uo)

248 Still warming up on deck

Posted by: Earl Turner at October 03, 2013 04:29 AM (VrVBw)

249

off sock...

Like most, I have all   .gov   sites blocked. 

 

Do you hear me NSA?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 03, 2013 04:29 AM (b0x7s)

250 Harry Reid is either stupid or justifying himself because he's under stress-the latter, I think. If someone asks "Why don't you want to help one kid with cancer?" the answer should NOT be, "Why would I want to do that; I've got 1000 people on _____base with problems. Heck, practically anyone could have answered it better in a more politically correct fashion. PRESSURE

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 04:29 AM (a4Omg)

251 240 PhxGrl,

Thank you ma'am...I am gonna go join Vic on my "South Carolina Morning Consitutional"...

y'all be safe.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:29 AM (9jfyN)

252 >>>>Yesterday, I asked a question If we have to subsidize insurance so that poor people can buy it, who is going to subsidize their deductibles that they can't pay because they didn't have the money to pay for the insurance in the first place?

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at October 03, 2013 06:41 AM (1hekh)

**


Liberal heads all across Libtopia exploding in 3...2...





Posted by: dananjcon at October 03, 2013 04:29 AM (wmU4G)

253

"I believe the Obama admin realizes that it was really bad optics to keep out honor flight vets from the WWII memorial. They're letting them in-just not anyone else."

 

 

 

Which was exactly why they did it.  Only it backfired on them.  They were hoping people would blame the Republicans. 

 

Posted by: runningrn at October 03, 2013 04:30 AM (PLOz8)

254 Were I an evil man I'd counsel the right sponsoring hackers their own as the leftoid activists seem to do.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 08:15 AM (9jfyN)
===========

Sven,

Left, Right, matters not- it's all about the green.  This clusterf*ck of an O-care launch is a goldmine for hackers.

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 03, 2013 04:30 AM (OtQXp)

255 "I think the dark times are starting already.

There is tremendous mis-reporting, under-reporting and flat out faking of crime stats in NYC.

If the Sandinista wins....move."

How appropriate that I watched Death Wish with Chuck Bronson last night.  The past is NYC's future.

Paging Mr. Paul Kersey...

Posted by: Jaws at October 03, 2013 04:31 AM (4I3Uo)

256 Read the article Vic posted in comment number 60. It's so crazy that my first reaction was "that couldn't happen in America". But it has. http://tinyurl.com/l5nvk2z

Posted by: MTF at October 03, 2013 04:31 AM (5kRy2)

257 251 Fenlon Spoke,

correct...now reason it through Searchlight is fucking up b/c he knows sooner or later enough assholes like me will point out to enough people in real everyday life we have not passed a real budget in Obama's entire term.

Reid is in peril b/c of Obama politically and it has to be pissing him off.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:31 AM (9jfyN)

258 Good morning!

Andy is now taking over for Gabe?  This shutdown is f-ing awesome.

Posted by: EC at October 03, 2013 04:31 AM (GQ8sn)

259 Heck, practically anyone could have answered it better in a more politically correct fashion.

PRESSURE

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 08:29 AM (a4Omg)

 

File under "Imagine if a Republican said this"

Posted by: Red Shirt at October 03, 2013 04:31 AM (FIDMq)

260

And wasn't it nice of Obama to tank the markets yesterday? 

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 03, 2013 04:32 AM (b0x7s)

261

Guess California is still sandbagging, or the DOL didn't get Teh SCOAMT memo to spike the markets - initial jobless claims only at 308,000.

Posted by: steveegg at October 03, 2013 04:32 AM (o44nj)

262 PRESSURE I'm going with senile and evil.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 03, 2013 04:32 AM (659DL)

263 Vic, I hope you have a nice walk. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at October 03, 2013 04:32 AM (z4WKX)

264 256 Malamutt,

2d rule is pants, shoes, shaved?

No service

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:32 AM (9jfyN)

265 "Why do I get the feeling that for once we are winning this and that the majority of people see it? I sure as hell hope Boehner and company see it and stand firm. " There's still time to surrender, guys. If we apologize now and promise to never, ever embarrass them like this again, we could still win this thing.

Posted by: GalosGann at October 03, 2013 04:32 AM (vW1n3)

266 Got here late. Read almost 100. By that time there were 250. Anyone mention Tom Clancy passing? One book and I was hooked. "The Frisbees of Dreamland" chapter from Red storm rising was classic. Thanks for the way you could make the world go away Tom.

Posted by: nothinglefttolose at October 03, 2013 04:34 AM (+jNI+)

267 This place has rules? First rule of AOSHQ is don't talk about the rules of AOSHQ. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 03, 2013 08:30 AM (OWjjx) I tell people about Rules for Morons Number One and I tell people . . . .

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 03, 2013 04:34 AM (VtjlW)

268

"Tourists travelling to Omaha Beach to pay their respects to the 9,387 military dead at the Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial will find it closed, a victim of the U.S. governmentÂ’s partial shutdown.

 

FUCK the BASTARDS.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 03, 2013 04:35 AM (4df7R)

269 i don't trust boenhner

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 03, 2013 04:35 AM (8JJ6O)

270

"This place has rules?"

 

Just like the government, it has rules for the little people.   

Posted by: jwest at October 03, 2013 04:36 AM (u2a4R)

271

Greetings   anarchists.

 

I'm feeling  not quite  as screwed as usual after yesterday's small   victories. Levin's rant was a great way to start the day and   hearing The Obstructionist Hairy Reed's   pathetic mewling in his attempt to walk back his statement yesterday was     doubleplus good.

 

SNAFU, y'all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 03, 2013 04:37 AM (0HooB)

272

I realize that this is from Infowars, and Alex Jones is a nutter, but still, I do not doubt this at all:

"Numerous hiking and biking trails throughout the greater DC region, despite requiring zero immediate maintenance or patrols, have been closed down. Irate citizens are merely flouting the law and using them anyway.

- The NPS has stationed officers along the Chesapeake & Ohio Canal that runs 184 miles from Washington, D.C. to Cumberland, Maryland to make sure nobody uses the bike paths. It would have required less manpower to keep this trail open. The handles on all the well pumps have also been removed.

- The feds also shut down a tiny park in which children play on fake turtles, prompting angry mothers to remove the barriers, only to see them put back up. “The park is extremely small and sort of seems pointless to block off,” reports the Daily Caller.

- Lincoln Park in DC, which is known to be used by several Democratic Senators, was not shut down, but numerous national parks across Montana were closed."

 

 

Posted by: runningrn at October 03, 2013 04:37 AM (PLOz8)

273 Just like the government, ithas rules for the little people. /checks calendar It's Thursday. TIME TO PICK ON MWR FOR A BIT. GO.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 03, 2013 04:38 AM (659DL)

274 Is there any truth to the rumor that Harry Reid likes young boys?


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 04:38 AM (xdC/M)

275 The problem JJ is that "the rest of the nation" is not seeing this. Every major news organization that I went through this morning is blaming the Republicans except Fox who is blaming both and isn't mentioning most of the shit that Obama pulled yesterday, or at least not in a manner that tells what was really happening. Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 07:34 AM (zZbNF) In thought, btw, any "I" "You" "They" reference is not limited to the singular. Even "We" are more than ourselves in number. Silent Majority went viral network vs. "Network." I spare myself the daily doses of angst, MSM stressful immersion. Quit watching the prefab propaganda years ago. Really, the MSM is so predictable. It's boring if not infuriating. I'm not the sort of person who requires abuse to stand my ground. We know that the messaging is still being manufactured, sold and bought ALL at taxpayer expense to profit corruption. Whether or not other people tune MSM propaganda out of earshot is their own choice. My point is that they feel the same angst as I, subjecting ourselves to the messaging. At some point, everyone becomes so saturated in angst, there's a significant inevitable reaction. How they will respond to the overload of pressure will be made evident. But as with the Tesla igniting into flames after running over trash in the road, it ain't gonna be pretty. Every straw that politicians add to the tax payers' back already accumulated to break us, to make us dysfunctional, personally injured. But the politicians' own smart ass design will ignite of itself. Some of citizens will cower in private to lick the wounds of submission to authoritarianism. But inevitably, a lot of outrage will unleash everywhere. Even as in the Gulags where there was no realistic expectation of ever getting out. Best to direct the response on the human traffickers called politicians. Deny them their status that requires our blood, sweat and tears. Primary the goppers out. They don't DESERVE any respect, let alone loyalty, having denied such to constituents. They want to show us disdain? Smear their faces in it. Nothing like pulling the rug out from under pompous deceit. So much hidden to expose, all those deals swept under the rug. Admit that even a stoopid ODonnell is better in this Obamacide squeeze than the idiot McCain Graham smart asses posing as if statesmen. (And easier to replace with the next "better" candidate subsequent elections.) If EVER the word "electable" promotes a candidate, turn and rend. That candidate deals in pin stripe human trafficking along Washingtonian avenue. That "electable" candidate is Washingtonians' candidate. Not every new candidate will have the intense talents of Cruz, or charm of Rubio, for instance. The ONLY point is, wash out Washington. However humbly with a primary contest, or grandiose. Meanwhile, whatever criticisms we have of Congress and this Administration (and court decisions), we MUST be vocal and persistently present in the daily discourse. Word of mouth is not limited to what comes out of the idiot box. Never was. Remember how Obama actually won: each supporter engaged 20 others, etc. Word of mouth wins elections according to whose grassroots actually win and hold more ground turf. We are in for the duration. The long haul of our life times. There is no "giving up" now in order to fight when it's easy and convenient, when the other side surrenders, when some one else fights for you because you don't want to. There is no surrender now because by surrendering we will win. "I abandoned my principles in order to save my principles" my ass. Pfft. Even our nation's military engagements are defined as perpetual, never ending, through our life times, at least a century if not longer. You don't just lose these battles, these wars. Your life is already on the line. Surrendering only lends you to torture and execution, designed heinously by McCain himself in league with his breed of corrupt authoritarian beasts. We all have inalienable rights. They can not be stolen, borrowed, lent or sold. They are eternally innate within each person. No one's inalienable rights infringe on the next person's. The US Constitutional Government is established on the cornerstone of protecting our inalienable rights as human beings in America. THAT is American Exceptionalism. We are all equal under the Supreme Law of the Land. Justice is impartial. Obamacide is American Exemptionalism Amnesty is American Exemptionalism ... every "comprehensive legislative reform package" is more Exemptionalism to profit the corrupt authoritarians at the grotesque cost of killing the Middle Class workers made indigent slaves.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 04:38 AM (MhA4j)

276 In other news, nanny staters around here are trying to ban wood stoves and fireplaces. The very same people who now pick up a remote, click 'fire' and their natural gas fireplace roars into flames. Elitists who look at a wood burning fireplace as 'dirty' and 'icky'. The overindulged children of baby boomers. They want a remote for the big screen, a remote for the air conditioning, and a remote for the fireplace.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 03, 2013 04:39 AM (U2UQk)

277

Is there any truth to the rumor that Harry Reid likes young boys?

 

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 08:38 AM (xdC/M)

 

Last I heard, it was kids (the four-legged kind) Dingy liked.

Posted by: steveegg at October 03, 2013 04:40 AM (o44nj)

278 What the hell is wrong with wood stoves and fireplaces? Let me guess, emits some kind of air pollution that causes asthma or somesuch.

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They don't want us to burn wood in our fireplaces, or coal, and they don't like gas either.  I guess we're supposed to burn our money, since it's going to be practically worthless soon? 

Speaking of breast cancer and men, IIRC, Shaft (Richard Roundtree) had it, too.  I remember hearing that years ago and being surprised that a man could be diagnosed with it. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 03, 2013 04:40 AM (XB5Ak)

279 This is Chris Matthews saying on MSNBC that SCOAMT has met his match and heÂ’s brilliant. The brilliant lawmaker is Ted Cruz. ItÂ’s less than20 seconds long & The Blaze is the only place I saw it yesterday. http://tinyurl.com/q5o6w3o

Posted by: CarolT at October 03, 2013 04:40 AM (z4WKX)

280 They are shutting down military cemeteries??!!!! I have an utter, burning hatred for these bastards.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2013 04:40 AM (WjLUf)

281 Good morning!

NFL network interviewing Kurt Coleman, Eagles safety, whose dad had - and beat - breast cancer. Just thought I mention it b/c I know a lot of folks around here hate tge NFL's pink month.

In other news, nanny staters around here are trying to ban wood stoves and fireplaces. In UTAH! I hate these pricks.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 03, 2013 07:59 AM (5H6zj)


I've never had a problem with the Pink month.  I only object to the Komen Foundation hijacking the color pink and acting like thugs who believe they have a right to decide when it can and can't be used.  Just one example:  A few years back, the defensive coordinator at Arkansas started making players who were loafing in practice wear a pink jersey the next day (it cut down on loafing, BTW.)  The Komens had a case of the vapors and cried like little babies until he backed down and apologized.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at October 03, 2013 04:41 AM (QR7wx)

282 I don't hink I'm going to be able to discuss this whole unshutdown issue more until I hear what Jon Huntsman has to say.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 03, 2013 04:41 AM (659DL)

283 I spare myself the daily doses of angst, MSM stressful immersion. Quit watching the prefab propaganda years ago. Really, the MSM is so predictable. It's boring if not infuriating. I'm not the sort of person who requires abuse to stand my ground. We know that the messaging is still being manufactured, sold and bought ALL at taxpayer expense to profit corruption. Amen, brother.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 04:42 AM (a4Omg)

284

Are people normally stationed @ the normandy cemetary?  Or is there beefed up 'security' now?

Posted by: Red Shirt at October 03, 2013 04:44 AM (FIDMq)

285 No wood burning fireplaces sounds like Cali transplants.

Posted by: Case at October 03, 2013 04:45 AM (wf3Kt)

286 Geez, trying to avoid the morning scold from Malor, and instead it's Andy. I need a system to figure this shit out.



Regarding male breast cancer, I've heard that men are the most likely gender to be diagnosed with breast cancer following women.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 03, 2013 04:45 AM (W7ffl)

287

81 77 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 07:00 AM (a4Omg)


This is genius. It seems that Boehner andd the boys are going ahead piecemeal.

 

 

 

 

I copied that and sent it to my rep.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 03, 2013 04:45 AM (DHQv9)

288

BTW, I appreciate   this country's elected officials referring to me and others like me as    jihadists.    At least this means they admit that Islamic terrorism is a real thing and that it's   bad!   now if we could just get them to   affix    the label to the actual people to whom it applies, we might be in business.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 03, 2013 04:46 AM (4df7R)

289 Is there any truth to the rumor that Harry Reid likes young boys?


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 08:38 AM (xdC/M)
=====

Considering the FACT that he's never denied numerous allegations I would say the answer to that is "YES!"

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 03, 2013 04:46 AM (OtQXp)

290 284 I don't hink I'm going to be able to discuss this whole unshutdown issue more until I hear what Jon Huntsman has to say. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 03, 2013 08:41 AM (659DL) he was on something the other day ....what a creepy guy.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 03, 2013 04:47 AM (8JJ6O)

291

"Looks like the state of Maryland averaged about 1,200 new applications to own a handgun per DAY in the last week of the month."

 

 

 

More people signing up for permits than for 404care

Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 03, 2013 04:47 AM (DHQv9)

292 270. French Vichy enablers Who would prosecute a WWII Veteran's family visiting Omaha Beach or the graveyard of our fallen American heroes, France's heroes? The authoritarian socialists today. They violate R.I.P.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 04:48 AM (MhA4j)

293

runningrn, Da Tech Guy went to the Concord park  yesterday and  took video of his civil disobedience, while  joking that he got a good image of his face for evidence.  He went all over the place, and it wasn't   very secure and there were other people there too.

 

I sincerely hope this gets  dragged out as long as possible. The Dims are stepping in it  big  time  and the more the  public sees they don't suffer,  the less  effect   their rhetoric will  have on the LIV's.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 03, 2013 04:49 AM (0HooB)

294 Are people normally stationed @ the normandy cemetary? Or is there beefed up 'security' now? The pre-shutdown and post-shutdown duty posting assignment rosters for the NPS would probably tell one hell of a tale.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 03, 2013 04:49 AM (V3kRK)

295 Regarding male breast cancer, I've heard that men are the most likely gender to be diagnosed with breast cancer following women. {{Citation needed}}

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 03, 2013 04:51 AM (U2UQk)

296

Not sure if Vic posted this already, but I was not aware the FHA is getting a $1.7B bailout from the treasury on their reverse mortgage program - Fred Thompson hardest hit:

 

http://tinyurl.com/l8ycqos

Posted by: tofer732 at October 03, 2013 04:51 AM (z3MpN)

297 285. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 08:42 AM (a4Omg) heh, that's sister.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 04:51 AM (MhA4j)

298 "More people signing up for permits than for 404care"

Yup...
Let that roll around in your head for a bit.
More people in one state are signing up to own handguns than the number of people in the nation enrolling for 404care

Maybe it's really time for my sometimes mentioned "Affordable Handgun Act"

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 04:51 AM (xdC/M)

299 https://mobile.twitter.com/morgenr/status/385744931383304193/photos That pic sums up the SCOAMF.

Posted by: Madamex at October 03, 2013 04:52 AM (islXR)

300 Maybe it's really time for my sometimes mentioned "Affordable Handgun Act"


Obamaguns for everyone!


Posted by: EC at October 03, 2013 04:53 AM (GQ8sn)

301 Regarding male breast cancer, I've heard that men are the most likely gender to be diagnosed with breast cancer following women.

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Stop with that crazy Infowars talk. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 03, 2013 04:55 AM (XB5Ak)

302 Now this is interesting, the Lavabit orders were unsealed and it appears that the reason the owner shut down Lavabit was because there was an order demanding that he give up the SSL key. http://bit.ly/19mpTuE So, in other words, to get at one person, the Court did not give a crap that 40,000 other people, for whom there was no court order to access their information, would also have their data compromised. According to the article, the judge blamed Lavabit for this. I am the first to admit that I do not know nearly enough about encryption to know if the use of a single SSL key was specifically designed in order to say hey I can't give you person A because then it's everyone else's too neener neener boo boo but it appears that the Lavabit owner was willing to track Snowden's info even though it would be burdensome so that sort of cuts against that argument. It does bother me very deeply that the court seems to not care one whit about all the other users. Also, it does appear that he gave up some of the key but was a dick about it which means he violated the single most important rule of never piss off the judge so, yeah, no sympathy for him there. This is why I'm extraordinarily skeptical about claims that there is proper oversight. The courts appear to be leaning towards giving the various alphabet agencies what they want and, bluntly, I think the judges have no freaking clue what any of this jargon means. There's also the standing problem. If I was a Lavabit user and I found out that my emails had been improperly accessed and/or unencrypted by the NSA or whomever, what's my recourse? Let's say I was not using it for any crime at all, so there's nothing that will ever be precluded. Well, so what? My Fourth Amendment rights were still violated. No harm no foul doesn't sit right with me when it comes to stuff like that. I don't know, I will have to ponder this more.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 03, 2013 04:56 AM (VtjlW)

303

So, on day 3 of the Shut Down, I have to ask:

 

1) Is NPR still   on the air?  

 

2) Is PBS still on the air? 

 

3) Are Obammy's beloved golf courses still open? 

 

 

The answer to all of the above   is "yes" by the way.     '

 

I fail to see how    closing  parks, memorials and monuments over which they have   little   or no      control   is justified   when they won't close down things over which they have a sizeable amount of control.   And judging by the hew and cry that always goes up when our side suggests cutting off funding to NPR and PBS -- "You're going to evict Big Bird!" -- I find it laughable that anyone might suggest that the gubmint has no authority to close them down.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 03, 2013 04:56 AM (4df7R)

304 I enjoy Da tech Guy. I enjoy his conservatism. I enjoy his delight in his RC faith. I enjoy his accent. You go. Pete. Break down the barack-ades (well, step over them anyway) at Concord. Thx to the person who mentioned him: http://datechguyblog.com/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 04:57 AM (a4Omg)

305

The hacking thing? Part of the plan.

 

McCain: "My frensh, it is unfortunate that the entire nation's social security numbers have been compromised, while at the same time most of our banking has been, too. That's why I support President Obama's initiative to replace and restore our social safety net with bio-scannable implants..."

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at October 03, 2013 04:59 AM (3ZtZW)

306 302 EC,

Don't laugh I'd bet Hi-point could generate a reliable handgun for every legally eligible recipient for about 65 bucks a unit.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 04:59 AM (9jfyN)

307 Don't laugh I'd bet Hi-point could generate a reliable handgun for every legally eligible recipient for about 65 bucks a unit.

Hi-Point?

More like Jimenez Arms' new Jam-O-Matic Mk 1 MOD 0.

Posted by: EC at October 03, 2013 05:00 AM (GQ8sn)

308 Top Headline Comments (10-3-13) —Andy Lotta Brawndo out there. Whole lotta electrolytes. What the dickens does this mean?

Posted by: backhoe at October 03, 2013 05:00 AM (ULH4o)

309 In a moment of huge irony, golf's Presidents Cup is this year. I think President Ladies Tee is the host this year.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 03, 2013 05:01 AM (5H6zj)

310 better yet the Handgun, Carbine, and Shotgun act....

ensure every citizen legally eligible MUST be issued a trio of inexpensive weapons on their 21st birthday.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:01 AM (9jfyN)

311

>>>>They are shutting down military cemeteries??!!!!

 

AVENGE ME!

- Tomb of the Unknown

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at October 03, 2013 05:01 AM (3ZtZW)

312

BTW, in    news unrelated to the shut down,   Iran's cyber minister was apparently killed in a "horrific incident,"    and   it's   suspected that it was assassination.

 

 

UK Telegraph:  http://tiny.cc/ygqd4w

 

 

That should give y'all a nice warm   fuzzy feeling for the morning.  ^_^

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 03, 2013 05:02 AM (4df7R)

313 >>What the dickens does this mean? Idiocracy.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 03, 2013 05:02 AM (g1DWB)

314 >>>310 Lotta Brawndo out there. Whole lotta electrolytes.

What the dickens does this mean?

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Movie...Idiocracy.




Posted by: dananjcon at October 03, 2013 05:02 AM (wmU4G)

315 What the dickens does this mean? From the movie Idiotcracy. A must see. About future generation of Americans.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 03, 2013 05:02 AM (U2UQk)

316 Any chance O will skip the Presidents Cup because of the shutdown?

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 03, 2013 05:02 AM (5H6zj)

317 309 EC,

Not my experience.

I've owned 3 hi-points, yes my S and W is a better pistol and definitely worth the extra 200 bucks but I've had few FtFs out of hi-points once properly cleaned and lubricated.

Hell Armscor has 285 dollar 1911s, add in their Shotgun  offerings and we're cooking with gas.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:03 AM (9jfyN)

318 317 Schrodinger's Cat,

Idiocracy was a documentary sent from the future....

If we ever have an awards Post from Ace I nominate President Hector Alejandro Mountain Dew Camacho for the first Acie lifetime achievement award...

President Camacho had me ready for Ba-Rawn-ko

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:05 AM (9jfyN)

319 Democrats, liberals who say ,
Obamacare is the law of the land and must be obeyed.
How many of the people saying that are pot smokers?

Posted by: Will Goodman Hunter the First at October 03, 2013 05:05 AM (GmoH0)

320 From the movie Idiotcracy. A must see. About future generation of Americans. Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 03, 2013 09:02 AM (U2UQk) Future?!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 03, 2013 05:06 AM (bCEmE)

321 Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 08:51 AM (MhA4j) Oh, sorry about that, panzer. That is a surprise to me.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 05:06 AM (a4Omg)

322

So, looks like the ATF pulled a Fast and Furious with illegal tobacco purchases, too.  

 

 

CBS: http://tinyurl.com/ky9hcr2


 

 

ATF:   Helping supply  Mexican drug cartels and  overseas terrorist operations for    at    least  ten years

 

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 03, 2013 05:06 AM (4df7R)

323

About future generation of Americans.

 

Nope. It's  a documentary   about LIV's.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 03, 2013 05:06 AM (0HooB)

324 "Obamaguns for everyone!"

Lotta truth in that.
Wasn't Alansky the one that came up with the rule about making the enemy live up to their hype.

You wanna subsidize housing for the poor?
Subsidize handguns for the poor

Subsidize food?
Subsidize ammunition.

Subsidize healthcare for the poor?
Subsidize safe handgun training

Free daycare for single mothers?
Free gun cabinets to protect the children

And on...and on..and on.

Poor people have every right to the second amendment as rich folk from Hollywood (Providing no disqualifying legal/medical history).

Make Barbara Streisand/Alec Baldwin explain why she or he don't want that single mother of color to exercise her right to protect herself.


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 05:06 AM (xdC/M)

325 321 Will Goodman Hunter I-The Damon

Quite....puffffff but that LAW was unjust man....


Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:07 AM (9jfyN)

326 Any chance O will skip the Presidents Cup because of the shutdown?

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 03, 2013 09:02 AM (5H6zj)

 

ROTFLMAO

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 03, 2013 05:07 AM (4df7R)

327 322 Tami,

Indeed...it was made in 2006... the future is us.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:07 AM (9jfyN)

328

Haven't fired any Hi Points but I give them credit for being all-American and designing guns specifically for the working man. These aren't sporters or target guns, they're house guns and sich for the family on a budget. They get it.

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at October 03, 2013 05:08 AM (3ZtZW)

329 Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho/Cruz 2016 !

Posted by: RWC at October 03, 2013 05:08 AM (fWAjv)

330 326 Village Idiot's Apprentice,

There is NO reason we cannot use FreeShit Army to destroy the socialist's cultural preferences.

Yes I will lose my beloved economic purity but I can wreck political correctness flat.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:09 AM (9jfyN)

331 "Obamaguns for everyone!" #canoeaccident

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 05:09 AM (GjYxB)

332 How is Obama gonna shut off Niagara Falls?


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 05:09 AM (xdC/M)

333 He works hard for the money So hard for it, honey He works hard for the money So you better treat him right 10:40 am || Delivers remarks at M. Luis Construction Company; Rockville, Md. Noon || Receives the Presidential Daily Briefing

Posted by: RWC at October 03, 2013 05:10 AM (fWAjv)

334 Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 09:05 AM (9jfyN) Yeah, my spelling suks this morning. I spell better when Gabe posts the morning thread. White hot venom ups my BP and improves my spelling. btw: Wiki has a decent general overview of the movie. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 03, 2013 05:10 AM (U2UQk)

335 What about the poor/minorities that can't get a free ID for voting? Won't they need a computer/internet or travel long distances to get signed up for SCOAMFCare???? Or maybe an ID when they sign up for it?

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at October 03, 2013 05:10 AM (9Bdcz)

336 "We have to pass it to find out what's in it."

From The Big Book of Quotes That Fueled The 2nd Revolution

Posted by: Panzi Spewlosi at October 03, 2013 05:10 AM (h75XG)

337 334 Village Idiot's Apprentice,

the same way he healed the Earth and reversed the rise of the oceans....

use his Ego's gravity well as a zero-point energy source.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:10 AM (9jfyN)

338 Thanks to all who answered me. I've heard of it but have not been to a movie theatre since 1984. And the TV went away in 2010. I can't stand exposure to popular "culture."

Posted by: backhoe at October 03, 2013 05:11 AM (ULH4o)

339 Obamacare is the law of the land and must be obeyed.

--

Immigration "law of the land?"  Not so much.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 03, 2013 05:11 AM (XB5Ak)

340

>>>>Yes I will lose my beloved economic purity but I can wreck political correctness flat.

 

That's my attitude. Once they break it, all bets are off. Take away the 2nd A [for example] and I will work to take away something they want, and keep taking away shit until there's nothing left. Yes it is cutting of my nose to spite my face, and so what.

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at October 03, 2013 05:12 AM (3ZtZW)

341 If the president can pick and choose which laws to obey, than we can, too.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 03, 2013 05:12 AM (AskuI)

342

>>>How is Obama gonna shut off Niagara Falls?

 

Nobody goes to the American side.

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at October 03, 2013 05:13 AM (3ZtZW)

343 Anybody see the story about Clapper saying he can't guarantee the safety of the country if a budget isn't passed, and that spies might be tempted to switch national loyalties? wtf.

Posted by: Mainah at October 03, 2013 05:13 AM (659DL)

344 *Breaking*
Due to evil Republicans not allowing Park Rangers to work, The Grand Canyon is being filled in to prevent blind cancer suffering, wheelchair ridden children from driving over the edge.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 05:13 AM (xdC/M)

345 Good news everybody. Civility has returned to Washington. George Miller (D-CA), one of the longer serving liberal dinosaurs in Congress, today referred to Republicans as “jihadists” over their efforts to defeat Obamacare.

Posted by: RWC at October 03, 2013 05:14 AM (fWAjv)

346 340 Backhoe,

Idiocracy is sort of an example of our ability to flip the Hollywood left's culture back at them...

"kinda"...

the left embraced it as a middle finger to the right, BUT Mike Judge is a (small L) libertarian if anything.

You watch the film and you find "South Carolina REPRESENT!" to be downright prescient.

President Camacho needed a teleprompter to say "shit..."

eerie

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:14 AM (9jfyN)

347 Got a letter in the mail yesterday that my individual plan was cancelled. It directed me to the national Obamacare exchanges.Both my husband and I have been unemployed for over a year and due to the local economy, ailing elders, specialized fields and our ages, we are likely to be unemployed for the foreseeable future.

It was the last straw. My super-lib neighbor was visiting and I've never discussed politics with her in order to keep relations cordial. I opened the letter and let loose such a stream of profanity about SCOAMF that I think she feared for her life. She quietly crept out of the house without even saying good-bye which was a good thing because when I got done with SCOAMF, she was next.

I am so depressed today. I have pre-existing conditions and paid a lot for the coverage but it was a great policy. And it made a mockery of the stories that you couldn't buy a medical policy if you had pre-existing conditions. They have been available for years as long as a (responsible) person retained continuous medical coverage and was willing to pay the premiums.

And to top it off, my RINO Rep, Meehan (NoLabels-PA -7) who I helped elect by working on his campaign in 2010, can't wait to cave to the Dems.

Other than that, things are peachy.

Posted by: jeannebodine at October 03, 2013 05:14 AM (2LJqa)

348

Thanks to all who answered me. I've heard of it but have not been to a movie theatre since 1984. And the TV went away in 2010. I can't stand exposure to popular "culture."

 

There was an ONT link to EweTewb  that had the full movie many moons ago. It's a look at the dumbed-down results of today's popular culture in the future. Funny as hell,  a   Mike Judge  flick.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 03, 2013 05:15 AM (0HooB)

349 How is Obama gonna shut off Niagara Falls? Nobody goes to the American side. Canadians come to the American side when they don't want to wait 8 weeks to see it...

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 05:15 AM (GjYxB)

350 "And in shutdown related news, it looks like the service academies' football games will go on after all." __________________ Phew. Now I can breathe again.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 03, 2013 05:15 AM (HDgX3)

351 Is SMOD imminent??? COLBERT: Do you think Reagan was a better president than Obama is? MATTHEWS: In the end, yes, because he ended the Cold War and that’s hard to beat – hard to beat that baby. Yes, that's 'tingles.'

Posted by: RWC at October 03, 2013 05:16 AM (fWAjv)

352 I can't stand exposure to popular "culture." For conservatives, it's roughly equivalent to knowing '1984' or just about anything by George Orwell. If you can find just the first five-seven minutes on the net somewhere, it's the very best part.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 03, 2013 05:16 AM (U2UQk)

353 351 rickb223,

Canuckistan has their wait down to 2 weeks...

the Ogabecare IT kerfuffle has the American side running backwards.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:16 AM (9jfyN)

354 *Breaking*
Due to evil Republicans not allowing Park Rangers to work, The Grand Canyon is being filled in to prevent blind cancer suffering, wheelchair ridden children from driving over the edge.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 09:13 AM (xdC/M

 

 

Whom Hairy Reed doesn't want to save.

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 03, 2013 05:16 AM (4df7R)

355 Civics instruction in this nation is ranked below toilet etiquette.

Is that the "Curtsey Flush" in the office bathroom after dropping an especially toxic load?

Posted by: Paladin at October 03, 2013 05:17 AM (YNPwP)

356

"Amendments are amendments to the constitution...not laws!"

Why then does West Publishing include the Constitution and all of the Amendments in their US Code volumes?  

Posted by: Wendy at October 03, 2013 05:17 AM (4uSYN)

357 Obama Admin is made up of Chicago Thugs. They have no class or respect for Vets & elders. The optics were wrong yesterday for Army Navy game but Brit Hume said something on GretaÂ’s show last night about the WH Tours and w/in 15 minutes, the games were on. They are too stupid to think about optics before they pick things that they are going to close. They are a petty little set of people. They manage to piss off people that they should never piss off. I hope the Vets go back again today.

Posted by: CarolT at October 03, 2013 05:17 AM (z4WKX)

358 50 Why do I get the feeling that for once we are winning this and that the majority of people see it? ***** My gut feeling is that this needs to drag on. The longer it goes on, the worse Democrats will look. The Democrats appear willing to oblige in this regard: they are holding out for unconditional surrender from the GOP. Right now people still are saying the GOP is responsible because that's the programmed reaction. I think as Democrats behave like Democrats those numbers will drop. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 03, 2013 06:50 AM (uhAkr) ____________________ Me three. I remember back in spring 2011, on facebook people were going nuts. How dare the evil RethugliKKKans shut down the govt. Don't they know planes will fall from the sky and millions of children will die? Now....nothing from my lib friends. I'm sure they still think that way, but they realize their views aren't that popular and they shut the fuck up. Every day the govt is "closed" is another day people realize just how little they really need the govt for their day to day lives.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 03, 2013 05:18 AM (HDgX3)

359 354 Schrodinger's Cat,

Ask and ye shall receive...

http://tinyurl.com/lf7vxo6

Idiocracy 2006.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:18 AM (9jfyN)

360

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republicans insisted they wanted to shut down the nation's 3-year-old health care overhaul, not the government. They got the opposite, and now struggle to convince the public that responsibility for partial closure of the federal establishment lies with President Barack Obama and the Democrats.

There's ample evidence otherwise, beginning with Speaker John Boehner's refusal to permit the House to vote on Senate-passed legislation devoted solely to reopening the government.



Comrades, can't you see who is the enemy here? If not, we're going to pound this drum until you do

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 03, 2013 05:18 AM (1Jaio)

361 Anybody see the story about Clapper saying he can't guarantee the safety of the country if a budget isn't passed, and that spies might be tempted to switch national loyalties?

wtf.

Posted by: Mainah at October 03, 2013 09:13 AM (659DL)

-

I'm trying to decide   if he   was simply told to try and put some fear pressure on the republicans, or if he was told to encourage our enemies.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 03, 2013 05:18 AM (AskuI)

362 357 Paladain,

Yup....now taught as part of "health" where my son is also instructed on the importance of deploying condoms on bananas...

"flush"

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:19 AM (9jfyN)

363 "Amendments are amendments to the constitution...not laws!" Prohibitionists & suffragettes hardest hit...

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 05:19 AM (GjYxB)

364 jeannebodine:    I'm sorry to hear about your insurance.   That SUCKS.   But good for you giving that neighbor of yours the full volley.   Keeping that bottled up inside isn't going to help your health, and maybe you've given her at least a little something to think about.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 03, 2013 05:20 AM (4df7R)

365 I'm trying to decide if he was simply told to try and put some fear pressure on the republicans, or if he was told to encourage our enemies. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 03, 2013 09:18 AM (AskuI) I know, right? Probably both.

Posted by: Mainah at October 03, 2013 05:20 AM (659DL)

366 WASHINGTON — Leah Phifer has long envisioned spending her life dedicated to public service. The 29-year-old Minnesota resident has been a civil servant for three years and is currently at the Department of Homeland Security. She’s starting a chapter of Young Government Leaders in her state and taking night classes to pursue a master’s degree in public policy. But now, as she observes the squabbling and dysfunction in Congress, she’s thinking of pursuing another career path. “I had never considered leaving federal service,” she told The Huffington Post. “But I have student loans to pay back. I want to buy a house. I want a life that doesn’t include biannual panic attacks over arbitrarily losing my job. So you asked if I’m considering leaving public service. In this climate, I ask you: How could I consider staying?” Yeah you think the grass is greener in the Private Sector? Go for it you fool and get back to me when you actually get a job you have to perform in to get paid. Dumb scrunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2013 05:21 AM (1RQeV)

367

I hope the Vets go back again today.

 

IIRC, there are Honor Flights scheduled and vets  will continue to arrive. The   NPS is allowing them in, but no one else,  which is bullshit.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 03, 2013 05:21 AM (0HooB)

368 Whom Hairy Reed doesn't want to save. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 03, 2013 09:16 AM (4df7R) Give him a break....he has 1100 people from Nellis AFB that are furlough and are SITTING AT HOME DOING NOTHING! SITTING.DOING.NOTHING....DO YOU UNDERSTAND!? NOOOOO-THING!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 03, 2013 05:21 AM (bCEmE)

369 >>Anybody see the story about Clapper saying he can't guarantee the safety of the country if a budget isn't passed, and that spies might be tempted to switch national loyalties? wtf. I'm kind of surprised that someone didn't ask him why we have spies that are considered non-essential and if they are essential and we are in so much danger without them why aren't they being paid.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 03, 2013 05:21 AM (g1DWB)

370

Say hello to Obamacare phones.

In Tennessee, those shopping on the new health insurance co-ops could end up with more than just some health insurance. They might even walk away with a free smartphone.

The Nashville Business Journal is reporting that Community Health Alliance, TennesseeÂ’s Obamacare health insurance co-op, is using the prospect of a free phone to encourage folks to enroll:





How about a few Link cards toss in as well?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 03, 2013 05:21 AM (1Jaio)

371 Anybody see the story about Clapper saying he can't guarantee the safety of the country if a budget isn't passed, and that spies might be tempted to switch national loyalties? wtf.
Posted by: Mainah at October 03, 2013 09:13 AM (659DL)
*******
I saw that! It was hilarious. If the spies inside our government switched sides wouldn't that mean they'd be working for us?

Posted by: jeannebodine at October 03, 2013 05:21 AM (2LJqa)

372 Bohner and crew went to a meeting at the White House to negotiate with a president who has public announced that he will not negotiate, so why go to the meeting?

Right, for the history books; get yer pitcher inda history books.

Posted by: RoboCommenter at October 03, 2013 05:21 AM (GmoH0)

373

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 03, 2013 08:56 AM (VtjlW)

 

Hmmm.....

Hmmmm.

 

The question I suppose is does decryption itself constitute a 4th amendment violation or do the emails have to be "read" (even digitally.)

 

I skimmed the article, but it's still unclear, but let's suppose there is only one encryption key but there is also a way to pull out Snowden's emails specifically. (Even if the feds have to decrypt the entire database to do so.)

Does that constitute a 4A violation? I'm inclined to say it does, but I really can't come up with any justification for that.

 

Put differently, if I share a 3 bedroom apartment with 2 other people (hawt women for this example) and one of them gives up the key to feds so they can search her room, is my 4A violated because they now have access to my room, even if they follow the rules and don't go into it? (Common spaces obviously can be consented to search by any resident.  And we'll assume that these are the very rare law abiding feds who make a good faith effort not to violate my 4A rights.)

It seems like a reasonable analogy to this case, but I agree, I don't like that potential outcome.  So Reflective Equilibrium! I must go back and adjust the conditions of my original position I guess.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 03, 2013 05:22 AM (GaqMa)

374
There was an ONT link to EweTewb that had the full movie many moons ago. It's a look at the dumbed-down results of today's popular culture in the future. Funny as hell, a Mike Judge flick.


It's a comedy but more and more it starts to look like a documentary of our immediate future.

Imagine an entire country, not just 52%, full of half-wits and the damage they can do.


"Go away.  Baitin'."

Posted by: EC at October 03, 2013 05:22 AM (GQ8sn)

375 New Laws are not Amendments to the Constitution. The people who don't hate Fascist Healthcare will as soon as their haze of ignorance fades. A new several hundred dollar a month bill for a product that is worth fuckall should do the trick.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 03, 2013 05:23 AM (KRpfP)

376 376 EC,

No dumbass the Maldives are in Florida....

//Ba-Rawn-Ko

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:24 AM (9jfyN)

377 Reid had to go on record with TFG and say that they will not negotiate. some of the LIVs had to see that. I received it in an email from Heritage. After the child with cancer question and answer, ReidÂ’s done the GOP a world of good!

Posted by: CarolT at October 03, 2013 05:24 AM (z4WKX)

378 Washington (AFP) - US claims for unemployment insurance rose slightly last week but continued to point to a slowly improving job market, government data released Thursday showed.







Comrades the increased unemployment numbers are a sure sign that the job market is improving

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 03, 2013 05:24 AM (1Jaio)

379 Good morning, Horde. I am so petty that I just walked through the parking lot and said "fuck you" every Obama-Biden bumper sticker I saw. At a college. In Maryland. I'm going to go not learn things now.

Posted by: Gingy. (Dave-wife) at October 03, 2013 05:25 AM (XwRIg)

380 Anybody see the story about Clapper saying he can't guarantee the safety of the country if a budget isn't passed, and that spies might be tempted to switch national loyalties?


It means we should imprison all of those spies right now.  They're a huge risk to our national security if the prospect of not getting paid is tempting them to turn traitor.

Posted by: EC at October 03, 2013 05:25 AM (GQ8sn)

381 379 Carol T,

You figure Searchlight is grasping that he made a deal with the devil at Frau Botox's urging...

you do get that he and she thought they were really co-Prezzy and Barry was the front man yes?

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:25 AM (9jfyN)

382 Anybody see the story about Clapper saying he can't guarantee the safety of the country if a budget isn't passed, and that spies might be tempted to switch national loyalties? wtf. Posted by: Mainah at October 03, 2013 09:13 AM (659DL) So if you need a budget to keep that from happening, then I can assume every spy from the last three and a half years or whatever it's been since a budget have flipped?

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 03, 2013 05:25 AM (VtjlW)

383 Good morning, Horde. I am so petty that I just walked through the parking lot and said "fuck you" every Obama-Biden bumper sticker I saw. At a college. In Maryland.

I'm going to go not learn things now.

Posted by: Gingy. (Dave-wife) at October 03, 2013 09:25 AM (XwRIg)




Keys.  They're awesome.

Posted by: EC at October 03, 2013 05:25 AM (GQ8sn)

384 The Park Service didn't work the WWII monument until the shutdown. The whoreson on Pennsylvania Avenue is responsible.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 03, 2013 05:26 AM (KRpfP)

385 384 AlexTheChick,

I'm trying to square what Imam Clapper said with the Church Commision's requirement we only use Rotary Club types as contacts...

ah "constancy" not a donkey virtue.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:26 AM (9jfyN)

386 Nice link to how Democrats, in their own words admit that they caused Marylanders to arm themselves in record numbers.

http://tinyurl.com/khpcrf4


While looking at those numbers, keep in mind that there are still tons of applications not yet submitted due to the guns not yet arriving at the dealer.
Yes, one can not submit the Maryland paperwork until the gun is at the dealer, and serial number is available.

So....the VIA household has at least two applications not yet in the pipeline.
And there are many more like that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 05:27 AM (xdC/M)

387 Put differently, if I share a 3 bedroom apartment with 2 other people (hawt women for this example)

Cut.  Jib.  Newsletter.  Lotion.  Towel.

Posted by: EC at October 03, 2013 05:27 AM (GQ8sn)

388 Still trying to get into healthcare.gov so I can just see what the damn numbers look like. So it's taken two days, but I finally got an account created. To even get the account created I received dozens upon dozens of error messages spread across two days worth of attempts. So now I've got the account created, finally, but it won't let me login. It's telling me my password, for the account I just created, is wrong. Odd. I know I'm typing it in right. So I request forgot password reminder. It sends me an email to a link where I get a message about not having authority. Don't know if there are any fellow engineers out there in the moronosphere, but for those unaware, what this website does is extremely simple as far as the technical complexity is concerned. The only semi-complicated part about it is the traffic they must deal with, but even that isn't a challenge because the content being delivered is still so simple, allowing it to easily farm.

Posted by: Andrew at October 03, 2013 05:28 AM (VjlMj)

389 I, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, am bringing the pain.  You, ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, better not call my bluff!  I, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, am going to install, ummmmmmmm ....... curtains over Niagara Falls so......, ahhhhhhhhhhhhh you cannot see.  That, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, oughta teach you to cross................. my, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh red line!

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at October 03, 2013 05:29 AM (32Ze2)

390 James Clapper is  an idiot.  Not  rhetorically in  anger, empirically.   That  concerns me.  

Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2013 05:29 AM (sOtz/)

391 It means we should imprison all of those spies right now. They're a huge risk to our national security if the prospect of not getting paid is tempting them to turn traitor. Posted by: EC at October 03, 2013 09:25 AM (GQ8sn) Bingo. So if you need a budget to keep that from happening, then I can assume every spy from the last three and a half years or whatever it's been since a budget have flipped? Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 03, 2013 09:25 AM (VtjlW) Seriously. If I were in the IC managing operational folks, I'd call an all-hands meeting and say "if you're here only for a paycheck and not to hunt bad guys for god and country, then with all due respect get the fuck out."

Posted by: Mainah at October 03, 2013 05:29 AM (659DL)

392

Posted by: EC at October 03, 2013 09:27 AM (GQ8sn)

 

I thought the horde would appreciate that detail of the thought experiment.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 03, 2013 05:29 AM (GaqMa)

393 Hardly an original thought but it bears repeating: There is NOT ONE THING about The Affordable Care Act that IS AFFORDABLE, no matter how you look at it, buyer, seller, short term, long term, sick or healthy. .......just more Orwellian madness.

Posted by: ontherocks at October 03, 2013 05:29 AM (qd3Gz)

394 Gingy....
Are you over at TU?

Stop in for coffee.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 05:29 AM (xdC/M)

395 281. CarolT again the talking point of Solomon's Wisdom from Democrats. Leave it to Washingtonians to once again misappropriate analogies. +one thing in particular made Cruz’s strategy “brilliant”: Going after Obamacare. “It’s about the baby, Obama’s baby,” Matthews said, referring to President Obama’s landmark health care overhaul. “You can’t cut the baby in half.”+ Then Matthews, IF Obama loved Obamacide, he'd forfeit his whole baby in order to save his baby's life. At least Cruz is consistent, despite Rand Paul demanding capitulation to compromise. Do not fund Obamacide; not one red cent. Only a 50/50 Compromise would cut the baby in half, killing it. Regardless of the percent agreement of content, it's stacked against the taxpayers. Rand Paul, beware that image, leading the compassionate conservative Compromise Caucus, whether cutting a baby in half or amputating a limb or surgically removing an organ from baby, Obama's monstrously constructed son remains on perpetual life support at taxpayer expense. /Gads, the carbon footprint. Ye gads, eugenics has no place for the weak. Squatters in Congress and the White House demand that the little people provide all funding for their having unprotected sex to create Obama's bastard, the son Obama now has, his very own Frankenstein./ Since the Democrats are making this reference to King Solomon, they should have thought how the moral of the story plays. Obama is obligated to give up his baby. *..Eery bipartisan bullshit "shared values" echo... I'm abandoning capitalism in order to save capitalism. George W. Bush I abandoned my principles in order to save my principles. Paul Ryan, who also abandoned his Road Map for America to preserve his VP slot on Mitt's losing ticket.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 05:30 AM (MhA4j)

396

*Breaking*Due to evil Republicans not allowing Park Rangers to work, The Grand Canyon is being filled in to prevent blind cancer suffering, wheelchair ridden children from driving over the edge.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 09:13 AM (xdC/M

 



Whom Hairy Reed doesn't want to save. wants to molest 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 03, 2013 09:16 AM (4df7R)

 

Fixed.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 03, 2013 05:30 AM (zF6Iw)

397 I knew guys like Marc Levin. I'm dead, so no skin off my teeth if I let you in on something. You will lose with this one too.

Posted by: Lev Bronstein at October 03, 2013 05:30 AM (BwsYg)

398 Morning, all!
Anyone watch the Paula Deen-inspired Law & Order SVU last night?
Not enough money in the world could get me to do so.

Off to read Vic's wonderful links....


Posted by: Lizzy at October 03, 2013 05:30 AM (vvueH)

399 Here's what harry Reid should have said. "Of course I care about children with cancer. The Democrats care about all people with health issues. That's why we fully support the Affordable Care Act and the Republicans don't" Note; I am not saying that I believe this-just that this is what he should have said. Even Schumer looked down when Reid gave that answer. You have to be very careful when you get in front of a microphone. He wasn't. Reid is not a spring chicken anymore either. Perhaps his thought processes are not as strong as they used to be.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 05:31 AM (a4Omg)

400

Anybody see the story about Clapper saying he can't guarantee the safety of the country if a budget isn't passed, and that spies might be tempted to switch national loyalties? wtf.

 


Posted by: Mainah at October 03, 2013 09:13 AM (659DL)

 

 

I find Clapper's claims that our furloughed intelligence employees are more prone to foreign influence   now than they were before,   given that    Washington is entirely in the pocket of the Saudis and the Chinese.   Do we forget Obammy's  election campaign suspending the validation for credit cards that would have blocked foreign donations?   Are we forgetting  Al Gore    and the Chinese nuns?    Are we    forgetting     Cankles and her $50,000 jewelry    "gifts"    from     Brunei?

 


I'm trying to decide if he was simply told to try and put some fear pressure on the republicans, or if he was told to encourage our enemies.

 

 

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 03, 2013 09:18 AM (AskuI)

 

 

You've    got    our intelligence chief   deliberately trying to   put the fear of God into people about terrorism, and the Preezy himself trying to put the fear of God into    Wall Street.    It's a pretty obvious scare tactic, no different from local and state governments    claiming that crime    and fires   will skyrocket if they aren't given more funding for police and fire.   The difference is that Obammy and his    demonspawn Cabinet are playing with the WORLD.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 03, 2013 05:31 AM (4df7R)

401 Thanks MWR, I think you're right. I'm glad she got to see real world effects of her savior and now that the dam broke, I don't plan to keep my feelings to myself in her presence. And my mother called my lib sister yesterday to tell her and blasted TFG for 1/2 hour (she usually avoids politics), so that was a plus too.

I think as people see the real world effects of DisasterCare, it will get better for our side. Certainly half the LIVs (or more) never thought they'd have to PAY for health insurance so there's a rude awakening on it's way.

Posted by: jeannebodine at October 03, 2013 05:31 AM (2LJqa)

402 The son of a whore closed Omaha Beach.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 03, 2013 05:31 AM (KRpfP)

403

I want a life that doesnÂ’t include biannual panic attacks over arbitrarily losing my job.

 

But you're more than happy to service a government whose policies have us arbitrarily losing our jobs, though, aren't you?

 

FOAD, scrunt.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 03, 2013 05:32 AM (zF6Iw)

404 Keys. They're awesome.

I was considering a bag full of dog crap thrown against their windshield...

Posted by: GMan at October 03, 2013 05:32 AM (sxq57)

405 If Marc Levin can provoke you guys into doing something foolish, he makes his bonus and goes away. You gotta look at the biggest picture. Again I dead and its so liberating to be able to speak honestly

Posted by: Lev Bronstein at October 03, 2013 05:33 AM (BwsYg)

406 406 Gman,

I am not condoning anything, BUT you'd do a lot more effective "modification" grinding it into the firewall well.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:33 AM (9jfyN)

407 Seriously. If I were in the IC managing operational folks, I'd call an all-hands meeting and say "if you're here only for a paycheck and not to hunt bad guys for god and country, then with all due respect get the fuck out."


And then put a bullet to the back of anyone's head who leaves the room.

Posted by: EC at October 03, 2013 05:34 AM (GQ8sn)

408 My son was looking at going to Towson State.  Leaning towards going to FL on my dime now.  Can't blame him I guess.  I have a cousin that Professes over there at TU.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 03, 2013 05:34 AM (32Ze2)

409 407 Comrade Trotsky,


I suggest you reread your thoughts on the Winter Palace comrade.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:34 AM (9jfyN)

410 How's the Icepick, Lev, still hurts don't it.

Posted by: Ramon Mercader at October 03, 2013 05:35 AM (Jsiw/)

411 Keys. They're awesome. I was considering a bag full of dog crap thrown against their windshield... Paint remover + spray bottle. Some assembly required.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 05:36 AM (GjYxB)

412 @9 heh heh

Posted by: Cretin, high-grade moron isotopes in thousands of centrifuges at October 03, 2013 05:37 AM (0rifE)

413 385 Keys. They're awesome. Posted by: EC at October 03, 2013 09:25 AM (GQ8sn) --/ Vandalism. It's illegal. 396 Gingy.... Are you over at TU? Stop in for coffee. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 03, 2013 09:29 AM (xdC/M) --- Essex, but we live close to TU. We'd love to see you; email gingerofthenorth @hotmail.

Posted by: Gingy. (Dave-wife) at October 03, 2013 05:37 AM (VHfsw)

414 >>I want a life that doesnÂ’t include biannual panic attacks over arbitrarily losing my job. >>But you're more than happy to service a government whose policies have us arbitrarily losing our jobs, though, aren't you? >>FOAD, scrunt. That, in a nutshell, is the problem with the federal bureaucracy. In the private sector there is no guarantee of a job. If the company doesn't grow jobs are at risk. But the federal government has grown without end regardless of the health of the economy. Talk to anyone in the federal bureaucracy about the concept of a layoff. They don't get it.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 03, 2013 05:37 AM (g1DWB)

415

Cleanup on  (BwsYg) .

 

Though I find it funny that silly trolls think talk radio hosts and authors are somehow in charge of the country. 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 03, 2013 05:37 AM (4df7R)

416 415 Gingy,

so is campaign fraud....

Ba-rawn-ko is doing okay

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:38 AM (9jfyN)

417 I hate hate hate hate the NFL pink month but it is good to hear that there is at least an attempt to point out that men get breast cancer too. Yes, it's rare but it does occur. More men die of breast cancer in this country than from AIDS.

Posted by: brontosaurus smoking a cigarette at October 03, 2013 05:38 AM (QupBk)

418

Washington is entirely in the pocket of [including, but not limited to] the Saudis and the Chinese

------- ----- ---------- ------- --------

 

 

FIFY

Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2013 05:38 AM (sOtz/)

419 Who carries an ice axe in Mexico?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 03, 2013 05:38 AM (KRpfP)

420 371 >>Anybody see the story about Clapper saying he can't guarantee the safety of the country if a budget isn't passed, and that spies might be tempted to switch national loyalties? wtf. I'm kind of surprised that someone didn't ask him why we have spies that are considered non-essential and if they are essential and we are in so much danger without them why aren't they being paid. Posted by: JackStraw at October 03, 2013 09:21 AM (g1DWB) CYA as our taxes have been funding terrorists, terrorism. This taunt precedes a directive from the Oval Office to terrorize Americans in America, no holds barred. Blame the assholes who hire employees that aren't through-and-through loyal to the US Constitutional Republic. Yeah, all Washingtonians. Wash Out

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 05:38 AM (MhA4j)

421 Hmmm..... Hmmmm. The question I suppose is does decryption itself constitute a 4th amendment violation or do the emails have to be "read" (even digitally.) I skimmed the article, but it's still unclear, but let's suppose there is only one encryption key but there is also a way to pull out Snowden's emails specifically. (Even if the feds have to decrypt the entire database to do so.) Does that constitute a 4A violation? I'm inclined to say it does, but I really can't come up with any justification for that. Put differently, if I share a 3 bedroom apartment with 2 other people (hawt women for this example) and one of them gives up the key to feds so they can search her room, is my 4A violated because they now have access to my room, even if they follow the rules and don't go into it? (Common spaces obviously can be consented to search by any resident. And we'll assume that these are the very rare law abiding feds who make a good faith effort not to violate my 4A rights.) It seems like a reasonable analogy to this case, but I agree, I don't like that potential outcome. So Reflective Equilibrium! I must go back and adjust the conditions of my original position I guess. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 03, 2013 09:22 AM (GaqMa) You see the pondering. For further context, there was just the ruling that a guy could be forced to give up the password for an encrypted hard drive and that was not a Fifth Amendment violation because reasons so far as I could tell from the opinion. So there's precedent out there that encryption means jack when it comes to attempting to secure your digital information. From what I understand, which could be completely and totally wrong in every way, the issue is that the Lavabit guy agreed to the pen tracer because it didn't matter. Everything's encrypted. So the Feds say screw you we want the encryption key and thus the fuss starts about yeah but that's everyone's. I think where your analogy breaks down is that, as I understand it, in order to search Roommate A's stuff, the Feds will have to sort through all your stuff too. That's a problem. The pondering is that I can see the but but but only one SSL being used to set up a system to hide the wolves amongst the sheep. I will admit that I'm giving the Lavabit guy the benefit of the doubt that he didn't do it like that from the start for just that reason. If he did, then, hey sorry that you're about to get sued by all those people who paid you and whose rights you just facilitated being violated. Sucks to be you! Hmmmm. Maybe have a third party do a blind decrypt to the stuff (ie they just run the decryption and, at most, spot check it worked) and then in camera review without the parties present so that only the appropriate people's information is turned over? That doesn't completely get around a potential Fourth Amendment violation but it does minimize it as much as humanly possible. Stupid real life being all messy and stuff.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 03, 2013 05:38 AM (VtjlW)

422 416 JackStraw,

but I work for the GOVERNMENT if I am not fucking over the private sector the communists have won....

//Asshole Federale Local 957

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:39 AM (9jfyN)

423

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 03, 2013 09:31 AM (4df7R)

 

Money, sex, and blackmail have turned many a spy in the past.

So is statement is not in any sense of the word inconceivable.  And given our current approach to OpSec and Counter Intelligence it's probably even a logical thought in his head.

But a few points

1) Current approaches to OpSec and CI left us with Snowden and Manning.  Current approaches are no longer sufficient anyway.

2) Was this said during the last shutdown? My guess is, no.  Why? Even if we grant it as a possibility (which is a stretch) it's not something you say.

3) There's an implication here that there is a statistically significant number of people in the IC who are so overleveraged they cannot even survive 1 missing paycheck.  That's disturbing on multiple levels (I'd note that TSP plans can be borrowed against during the shutdown, even if someone has 0 liquid savings.  Also, my wife has been told partial checks for the pay period immediately preceding the shut down were put in process, so the earliest missed biweekly check would come on 10/25.)

If what Clapper says is even remotely true, then even a simple problem that causes unpaid leave of 2 weeks (without any other incurred cost) would compromise our spies.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 03, 2013 05:39 AM (GaqMa)

424

Good morning, Horde.

 

Morning, Gingy!

 

 

I am so petty that I just walked through the
parking lot and said "fuck you" every Obama-Biden bumper sticker I saw.
At a college. In Maryland.

 

Posted by: Gingy. (Dave-wife) at October 03, 2013 09:25 AM (XwRIg)

 

 

I spit on them.   It's very liberating.    Walking through the parking lot, see a lefty bumper sticker,   *SPIT*.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 03, 2013 05:39 AM (4df7R)

425 419 brontosaurus smoking a cigarette,

Cancer lacks the Glee mafia as lobby

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 03, 2013 05:40 AM (9jfyN)

426 421 /get acquainted with Mexico's topography

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 05:40 AM (MhA4j)

427

 >>and that spies might be
tempted to switch national loyalties? wtf.

 

How does that work? "Feds aren't paying me, I'm sitting home - Imma work for North Korea, bitchez!!"

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at October 03, 2013 05:40 AM (3ZtZW)

428 Who carries an ice axe in Mexico? Climate change. See how warm it's gotten since 1940?

Posted by: Al Gore [/i] at October 03, 2013 05:40 AM (U2UQk)

429 Head of the WI DNR here refused Fed directives to shut down various parks they co-run and also reopened boat launches the US Fish and Wildlife had closed earlier in the day.


My smile for the morning.

Posted by: H Badger at October 03, 2013 05:41 AM (n/0Nw)

430 Dump up

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 03, 2013 05:41 AM (bCEmE)

431 Vandalism. It's illegal.

Only sometimes.  If you use a stencil and spray paint, you can vandalize to your heart's content and possibly even get rich as an "artist."

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 03, 2013 05:41 AM (/kI1Q)

432 395 Hardly an original thought but it bears repeating: There is NOT ONE THING about The Affordable Care Act that IS AFFORDABLE, no matter how you look at it, buyer, seller, short term, long term, sick or healthy. .......just more Orwellian madness. Posted by: ontherocks They will literally have to come & get me- at gunpoint-- for me to have anything to do with this "system." I am dropping as far out as I can.

Posted by: backhoe at October 03, 2013 05:42 AM (ULH4o)

433 "She quietly crept out of the house without even saying good-bye which was a good thing because when I got done with SCOAMF, she was next." - jeannebodine This has got to be happening increasingly everywhere. i keep hearing Breitbart saying, War. Speaking of which, Thanksgiving at Mom's just might go nuclear after decades of Mom-enforced deténte. Tell you a secret. Alcohol can cause some folks to lose a few degrees of self-control. And some folks don't need much. I don't know how often I'll be able to escape to the back porch or the piano. Talking with the next gen is always a joy, though. /ramble

Posted by: mindful webworker, receiving solar radiation at October 03, 2013 05:42 AM (5SlKF)

434

Posted by: JackStraw at October 03, 2013 09:37 AM (g1DWB)

 

I understand the sentiment in part.  My wife would rather deal with layoffs than this.

At least in a layoff there's some level of finality, "I'm fired, time to start looking for another job."

Somehow she got the worst of all worlds, no payment (So like being laid off) but no extra time to start looking for another job (since she's essential employee at work.)

 

Anyone who doesn't like this and isn't at work would be well advised to put the time towards sending out resumes though.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 03, 2013 05:42 AM (GaqMa)

435 Dump up. Someone grab willow.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2013 05:43 AM (GjYxB)

436 Anecdotes from the front:
We won't have to foment open revolt if we win this one. The media broth has whipped these idiots into a froth. I actually heard the "jihad" thing repeated to me by someone who does not know me in a training situation. I couldn't help it: "Well, the Republicans aren't actually gouging out eyeballs and desecrating corpses in shopping malls, are they?" Fool: "Not yet."
If we lose this one, let me recommend 500 targeting killings, say 10 in every state. To start. (Hey, what happened to Iran's cyber chief? Jus' sayin', is all.) the froth is thick hereabouts, and you can't punch froth. Just take 'em out from the top down, an' they'll all go back to hating Simon Cowell.

Posted by: Cretin, high-grade moron isotopes in thousands of centrifuges at October 03, 2013 05:43 AM (0rifE)

437 I am proud of my 0.5 Black President today, so proud. When my pet slug grows up I want to be just like Baraka Oblama and I want my next good dump to look like Baracka's  Pet Wookie named Mooch. So proud today........so proud !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Manimus Stainus Fuchus at October 03, 2013 05:43 AM (IkHXL)

438

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 03, 2013 09:38 AM (VtjlW)

 

This is the part that's unclear to me based on the article.

The key clearly provides the ability to decrypt the entire database, but I'm not sure it's necessary.

i.e. can the key be used to only decrypt the stuff caught in the trap. If so, does the 4A get violated for all the stuff that could be encrypted but is not actually being captured?

 

As I said though, I don't like the idea that then the fed can just set up a trap somewhere else and use their new fancy key to decrypt stuff that wasn't in the warrant. (And this is where I worry, that they won't abide by the rules.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 03, 2013 05:45 AM (GaqMa)

439 Talk to anyone in the federal bureaucracy about the concept of a layoff. They don't get it.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 03, 2013 09:37 AM (g1DWB)

 

------- ---- ------ ----- ----- ------

Economics, how does it work?

 

They really think six-figure bureaucrats in a flatlined-GDP economy with an asset bubble driving everything based on unsound fiscal policy while  underemploying millions of Americans in part-time jobs in 50-job-limited small business environment is a great way to run a country. 

 

People keep talking about our children paying off this debt.  We're looking at a default in maybe ten years depending on interest rates and GDP growth leading to increased tax revenue.  Not to be confused with more idiotic taxation which has already tasered our economy along with health care and regulation overload.       

Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2013 05:45 AM (sOtz/)

440 The Hill says the Pederast from NV has clarified his remarks about letting little girls die from cancer. And then go on to hype the bad shutdown from evil Repukes. Here is his "clarification".

Republicans are in such desperate straits that they have literally resorted to accusing me of not caring about kids with cancer. Shameful

http://tinyurl.com/mx3dks2

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2013 06:48 AM (zZbNF)


well to be snotty,  That Reid will hold one child untreatable for cancer  because He and Obama want what they want and will deny that child life saving care is ____?

So the next thing Obama and Reid,Pelosi want  Because it is the Mostest  important legislation to them  will Healthcare be denied as the Knife to get what they want from congress?

you know 1 death is a tragedy but thousands are just a rounding error?

Posted by: willow at October 03, 2013 05:46 AM (nqBYe)

441 Vandalism. It's illegal.


So is TFG's actions on the mandates and other assorted laws.

Posted by: EC at October 03, 2013 05:46 AM (GQ8sn)

442 alex tea, and a scone with honey.

Posted by: willow at October 03, 2013 05:47 AM (nqBYe)

443 "Leah Phifer has long envisioned spending her life dedicated to public service. ..." this... this is not a parody. right? whew.

Posted by: mindful webworker, on the verge at October 03, 2013 05:47 AM (9Zci/)

444 USMMA, they closed Kings Point on its birthday. I am heartily ashamed.

The Luby's shooter was an ordinary seaman, not an officer. He was ex-Navy, not an MMA graduate.

And they are Merchant Mariners, not "Merchant Marines."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 03, 2013 05:48 AM (JNUY4)

445 Looks like it's gonna be one of those days. TB3K was hungry, though.

Posted by: Andy at October 03, 2013 06:00 AM (eiJIn)

446 Yes they put ice pick in my casket. Haha funny. No ice where I ended up. Anyway Its great being able to use my given name instead of that ruskie sounding monikker.Been working on LBJ and Lady Bird to come out but no bites. Me and the KISS guys already here are good BTW. I told them name change sufficient. Ditch the face grease.

Posted by: Lev Bronstein at October 03, 2013 06:01 AM (BwsYg)

447 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2013 09:06 AM (a4Omg) 323. I don't subscribe to gender prejudice concerning ideas, validity, truth. My generation was not allowed equal status culturally; and those conservative women whose lives cultivated the ongoing legacy of wisdom yet are denied audience (being "heard"), whether from the feminazi libber peer group or even within the "social conservative" element. Being precise and persuasive while communicating ideas into fruition is an artistic ideal I enjoy exploring, studying and at times sharing. As per gender identity as intellect, I don't subscribe to "neutral". At the moment, I can't think of an example of a "neutral" intellect that didn't generate numbness. I think that through the course of life, so many lifetimes within one, there is strength within the amalgam, through meaningful understanding. Your current point of reference is in Christian ministry, did I read?

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 06:05 AM (MhA4j)

448 Yesterday, the WWI Memorial chained with a metal sign reading "Closed except for First Amendment" (activism) -- which means it isn't closed to any American exercising our Constitutional Rights. Closed except open to liberty. Obama's exceptionalism bites him in the ass.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2013 06:09 AM (MhA4j)

449 I wonder if a certain golf course say at Joint Base Andrews is still open. Mmmmmmm I wonder.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 03, 2013 06:30 AM (eJ2wx)

450 "Amendments are amendments to the constitution...not laws! When the president signed the ACA it became a law!" **************** Weapons-grade stupidity. I guess this is the "nu skool" thinking that Jeantel was trying to tell us about in the Zimmerman trial.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at October 03, 2013 06:41 AM (/sohm)

451 The President's Cup golf tourney is being held at Muirfield in Dublin, Ohio. That's where The Memorial tourney is held every year. No way TFG was "hosting" this. He wasn't scheduled to be there. He is going to Asia with the fam to tour his boyhood home. Cut back a few countries due to the shutdown bit is still going nonetheless. I think the optics of this trip are bad but will of course be ignored by MFM.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at October 03, 2013 06:41 AM (1M/xn)

452 Now if Locke could only find his Demosthenes. . . :Sigh:

Posted by: Dawnsblood at October 03, 2013 08:12 AM (BnxbS)

453 Is it true the phone number to the obamacare help line spells out fuckyo?

Posted by: galahad at October 03, 2013 10:23 AM (ukHWW)

454 I don't know if this is important to note in this discussion, but plants crave electrolytes.

Posted by: Kevin at October 03, 2013 01:11 PM (KKu10)

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