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October 08, 2013

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— Gabriel Malor

Day 8.

NYTimes reports that the faulty Obamacare websites were designed by contractors, who the White House has declined to identify. That's right, proles, you have no right to know just which donors' sons got paid outrageous sums of taxpayer money to half-ass the exchange software and which other donors' sons are now getting paid outrageous sums of taxpayer money to fix the half-assed work that should have been done correctly in the first place.

USAToday's editorial compares Bush 43's rollout of the online Medicare plan finder to Obamacare's online exchanges debut: "the difference between competence and incompetence."

Politico notes that the Democrats are showing a bit of daylight between the White House and the Senate on the budget & debt ceiling. Quite simply, Obama is telegraphing that he's ready to negotiate. Senate Democrats think that's a terrible idea because, dontcha know, they've got other things to do: "What does short-term buy us? That buys us Thanksgiving in Washington."

Speaking of turkeys . . . VP Biden, who brokered the deal that got us the sequester cuts in 2011 and fended off the fiscal cliff at the start of this year, has been banned from dealing by Sen. Reid. "None of the deals Biden has struck have aged well from the perspective of the Democratic Caucus."

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1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Tuesday, October 08, 2013. On this day in 1871 the Great Chicago Fire was started. Supposedly it was started in a small barn on Dekoven Street by Mrs. O'Leary's cow kicking over a lantern. However, the reporter who printed that story later admitted he made up the whole thing. So yes, reporters have always been liars.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:52 AM (zZbNF)

2 Now that the Hairy Pederast is in charge of the Democrat negotiations he is acting like a supreme asshole. But that is pretty much normal for him.

http://tinyurl.com/pmr3zqv

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:52 AM (zZbNF)

3 Another report of massive fraud in SSDI.

http://tinyurl.com/nkntrxu

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:52 AM (zZbNF)

4 In their continuing war on the public to "make it hurt" the corrupt Obama administration has closed the Foothills Parkway in TN blocking access for schools and graveyards.

http://tinyurl.com/nfbrtc3

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:53 AM (zZbNF)

5 Gov Moonbeam vetoes a bill that would have non-citizens sitting on juries.

http://tinyurl.com/pj57p8v

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:53 AM (zZbNF)

6 China warns the US over default. Evidently they believe all the hype from the US press.

http://tinyurl.com/oh7nxzv

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:53 AM (zZbNF)

7 ABC has a white rabbit making a portal in Snow White's crotch for an ad. This had to be done on purpose by a disgruntled idiot.

http://tinyurl.com/ltgtjbr

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:53 AM (zZbNF)

8 Smartest Man Tan in the room Joey Plugz is not beloved by the left?

You're kidding me.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 02:53 AM (9jfyN)

9 Long Island Middle school bans all sports balls during recess for safety. They already took away all the playground equipment so I guess the kids can just go out and sit in the dirt and make mud pies. But what's with "recess" in Middle School anyway. We halted "recess" after grammar school when I was a kid. Of course we has P.E. instead which amounted to the same thing.

http://tinyurl.com/m99488s

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:54 AM (zZbNF)

10 We need a national conversation about sledgehammers now. A Chicago (great city) grandmother beat her baby granddaughter to death with a sledgehammer and slit her throat.

http://tinyurl.com/l9k644o

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:54 AM (zZbNF)

11 Speaking of Chicago, they are dumping 400 part time workers into Obamacare. Something everyone predicted. But what's up with that anyway. The company I worked for gave zero benefits to part time workers and that meant zero health care. But this is Chicago public workers.

http://tinyurl.com/l9u4k22

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:54 AM (zZbNF)

12 Harvard Physicist criticizes hysteria over global warming as he is running for Ed Markey's seat in MA. It would have been more accurate to simply call the whole thing a massive lie.

http://tinyurl.com/ks7wo8y

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:54 AM (zZbNF)

13 Another CO Senator faces recall over gun grab. And note she is also a transplanted activist from NY.

http://tinyurl.com/llgbcof

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:55 AM (zZbNF)

14 Tarantula Face wants to halt oil and gas exploration on federal lands while gov is non-shutdown.

http://tinyurl.com/mlud7tu

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:55 AM (zZbNF)

15 CIS makes up a huge list of laws that are routinely broken by illegals to counter the myth that they are "otherwise law-abiding".

http://tinyurl.com/mqf8vxz

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:55 AM (zZbNF)

16 List of 6 groups specifically targeted to make the non-shutdown look worse.

http://tinyurl.com/kekjhff

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:55 AM (zZbNF)

17 Republican conservatives in Congress are not backing down just because Hairy Reid is spewing a wad of hate speech.

http://tinyurl.com/mapp3dm

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:56 AM (zZbNF)

18 Obama is threatening to illegally cut off SS payments to seniors. Hell, why not? He is impeachment proof.

http://tinyurl.com/lvfmyuw

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:56 AM (zZbNF)

19 given that during every shutdown, the govenment workers get their back pay after the shutdown, why aren't all of them on the job earning their salaries?

Posted by: losthusker at October 08, 2013 02:56 AM (PKcGA)

20 Kindle Daily Deals

http://tinyurl.com/m2aarf2

That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:56 AM (zZbNF)

21 If I didn't know any better I'd almost think the Democrats were not going to take yes for an answer on the CR and Debt ceiling...

Pretty much their entire "bargaining" position is "you will let us play make a wish and you'll like it" to the House GOP.

Quick question: If the House GOP did not in fact show antipathy to the Reid/Obama agenda at all and Obama was not engaged in his Shutdown Kabuki Theater would the GOP not have been pissing off its base as well?

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 02:56 AM (9jfyN)

22 DAY 336 1,127 to go (1,198 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 08, 2013 02:57 AM (WjLUf)

23 19 losthuske,

B/C "Kabuki" basically it is a deferred paid vacation.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 02:57 AM (9jfyN)

24 We don't want to talk about the difference between the Bush and Obama administration.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 02:58 AM (zZbNF)

25 18 Vic,

and the decision is as always ALL HIS.

It's funny comapring the behavior of GOP PotUSi and Donkey ones...

basically the GOP is warned "YOU will not cancel Soc Sec checks" "You will not do X and Y" I remember Tip *hic* O'Neill meaning the PotUS is obviously the decider...

yet somehow the game is now "if ONLY Comrade Ogabe knew what was being done"....

if he doesn't he is incompetent.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 03:00 AM (9jfyN)

26 18 Obama is threatening to illegally cut off SS payments to seniors. Hell, why not? He is impeachment proof. He really is an idiot. The barrycades have been a total disaster for him. This would obliterate him. People aren't buying that the Republicans are doing this.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2013 03:01 AM (uhAkr)

27 The House has passed and sent 26 separate funding bills to the Senate, of which Dingy has allowed zero to be voted on. Yet preezy QuiverLips taunts Boner to put up one Senate bill to be voted on.

What was it the hag Pelosi said recently? Something like TFG is the most non-partisan preezy evah. Riiiiight. Scrunt.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 08, 2013 03:03 AM (wNF3N)

28 I heard they blocked off a pullout on the highway where there is a scenic view of Mount Rushmore. Because SHUTDOWN!

Posted by: RolandTHTG at October 08, 2013 03:03 AM (qyoyx)

29 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2013 07:01 AM (uhAkr)

A bill funding SS payments would get bipartisan support. If Obama tries to cut them off he would be very publicly bitch-slapped.

Is he that stupid and arrogant? Are his handlers?

I hope so, but I doubt it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 08, 2013 03:03 AM (/kU/5)

30 Hell, why not? He is impeachment proof.

Read a good article at Am.Thinker on just how lawless and unaccountable this administration is and they know it. Short of impeachment, which is impossible... they do whatever they want to, ie, Louis Lerhner.. no consequences whatsoever for IRS abuse, DOJ, etc.

Posted by: Yip at October 08, 2013 03:04 AM (/jHWN)

31 28 I heard they blocked off a pullout on the highway where there is a scenic view of Mount Rushmore.

Because SHUTDOWN!

Posted by: RolandTHTG at October 08, 2013 07:03 AM (qyoyx)

They put out cones to block all those views. Evidently they did not take into account that it was a State highway and the Gov of SD was not happy.

The cones are gone now.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:05 AM (zZbNF)

32 Is he that stupid and arrogant? Are his handlers? I hope so, but I doubt it. I agree. This is scaremongering to compel seniors to phone their GOP congressmen.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2013 03:05 AM (uhAkr)

Higgs!

Englert and Higgs win the Nobel Prize in physics

http://tinyurl.com/otoylab

Posted by: crisis du jour at October 08, 2013 03:06 AM (xviIo)

34 29 A bill funding SS payments would get bipartisan support. If Obama tries to cut them off he would be very publicly bitch-slapped.

Is he that stupid and arrogant? Are his handlers?

I hope so, but I doubt it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 08, 2013 07:03 AM (/kU/5

That article I linked to said SS payments are funded out of a different account that is already paid up. That is why I said he was threatening to "illegally" halt them.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:06 AM (zZbNF)

35 "White House officials declined to identify the private contractors who had built the account creation function, citing a decision to keep that information private."

They decided to hide it citing the decision to hide it. Well alrighty then.

Robert Fripp presser: http://youtu.be/t4xg2y7N2tM

Posted by: forest at October 08, 2013 03:08 AM (stMuz)

36 Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 07:06 AM (zZbNF)

And a bill overriding his illegal act would get bipartisan support.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 08, 2013 03:08 AM (/kU/5)

37 does anyone have a phrase to replace "clean bill"? I hate to let the Dems frame the argument with words that presuppose their side is correct.

Posted by: losthusker at October 08, 2013 03:09 AM (bW8kg)

38
In a rare convergence of the calendar, Thanksgiving and the first day of Hanukkah, the eight-day Jewish festival of lights, fall on the same date this year: November 28.

DailyMail

You know what that means -- turkey and latkes this year.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 08, 2013 03:09 AM (kdS6q)

39 If this was a Repuke admin the people who created the account would have already been broadcast by the MFM whether they released it or not.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:09 AM (zZbNF)

40 North Carolina privately insureds get the bad news -- Their rates are going up as much as 400% thanks to 404Care.

http://tinyurl.com/lktdob2 (WZ, which gets the state wrong in their title)

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 08, 2013 03:10 AM (wNF3N)

41 36 And a bill overriding his illegal act would get bipartisan support.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 08, 2013 07:08 AM (/kU/5)

And as long as they are not willing to impeach him he will simple ignore the bill.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:10 AM (zZbNF)

Now that liberals are seeing the cost of healthcare through the new exchanges, maybe someone on the right will try to lay out a simple concept...

Everyone in the U.S., rich, poor, citizen or illegal immigrant received medical treatment prior to this. They may not have had insurance, but they were treated.

So, we were paying for all the treatment everyone in the country received. A lot of it was extremely expensive, being done in an emergency room instead of a clinic. The important point is that prior to Obamacare, all the costs were paid.

Now, with everyone supposedly being covered and a large pool of people who never contributed to the expense being brought into the system, why would it cost the people who have already been paying everything more?

It doesn't make sense.

The left would argue that it costs more to provide insurance for those who weren't insured before, but that's not correct. They were being treated with high cost healthcare that should be being replaced with low cost treatment. It should cost less.

What the fuck?

Posted by: jwest at October 08, 2013 03:13 AM (u2a4R)

43 Common Core 6th grade students in Arkansas are being asked to 'fix' the Constitution as an assignment.

The assignment required students to select two bill of rights[sic] to throw out, and put together persuasive speeches to market the idea.

http://tinyurl.com/kb4gj4e (freepatriot.org)

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 08, 2013 03:16 AM (wNF3N)

44 I would say we had a group of Chicago thugs running the country now but the Chicago thugs in the Capone days at least ran the city competently.

I would trust this administration to open a lemonade stand.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:16 AM (zZbNF)

45 oops supposed to be wouldn't.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:16 AM (zZbNF)

46 The town of Peshtigo, Wis. burned down the same night as Chicago, with a greater loss of life and far more damage. The whole north woods up there was burning. But the news didn't get out for about two weeks, so all anybody heard about was Chicago.

Posted by: Fat Freddy's Cat at October 08, 2013 03:17 AM (OsheA)

47 "...a lemonade stand. "

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 07:16 AM (zZbNF)

Where's your MSDS for that yellow liquid?

We are shutting you down!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 08, 2013 03:18 AM (/kU/5)

48 3 -

The fact that a lawyer, named Conn, from KENTUCKY (!) was able to bilk the fedrull guvment out of much money is both not surprising, and a wonder as to how anybody could not see it coming.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 08, 2013 03:19 AM (BeSEI)

49 When the government does "reopen" I hope the first thing done is to eliminate the national park service. Makes my blood boil to see all the bullshit they have done keeping memorials and parks closed And I don't care if they are "just following orders". Bullshit. Oh well a girl can dream

Posted by: Puttanesca, the sauce at October 08, 2013 03:19 AM (1ThpN)

50 They would have to have handicapped access, labels on the pitchers of lemonade and a warning about sugar intake.

And unless the stand was operated entirely by blacks it would be sued by Holder.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:19 AM (zZbNF)

51 The good software guys work on the Dem campaign software, not the government web pages.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2013 03:19 AM (uhAkr)

I think that the Dems are terrified that the people are going to figure out just how much the Federal government is "not" necesary. I get the feeling that the "meh" reaction to sequester has really thrown them for a loop and they feel they MUST stick to the guns this time to get Americans back on the Uncle Sugar plantation.

Fortunately, the only way they can make it look like the government is so all fired important is to start hurting people intentionally. This only serves to make them look like assholes who are willing to hurt folks just to get their way politically. I don't think people are falling for this shuck and jive this time.....I'm starting to have faith in my countrymen again.

Incidentally, I think its great to see the Dems hoisted onto their own petard......aren't they always saying its US who wants to take away everyone's goodies?

Posted by: FITP at October 08, 2013 03:20 AM (qrzaU)

53 Reading about the chief of police of the general assembly here in NC, not sure why that's a job but anyway, who called protesters there anarchists and gathered intelligence on them. Front page of the charlotte paper. Shitstorm brewing.

Posted by: NCKate at October 08, 2013 03:20 AM (tlIcr)

54 How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Who gives a shit. What I want to know is how do you get to be a stage hand at Carnegie Hall.

Stagehands making an average of $419,000 per freakin' year end their strike:

http://tinyurl.com/nd4wwsk (Breitbart)

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 08, 2013 03:21 AM (wNF3N)

55 My medicare supplement just went up $100 a month, or about 30%. Thanks, Ohole.

Posted by: Fat Freddy's Cat at October 08, 2013 03:23 AM (OsheA)

56 Ruh roh.

The off-duty undercover NYPD cop who denied any active involvement as his fellow bikers ripped a father from his SUV and beat him senseless was in fact hitting the car at the height of the frightening attack.

http://tinyurl.com/orl3lpv (Daily Mail)

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 08, 2013 03:26 AM (wNF3N)

57 Good Morning. Juan Uribe's home run just landed, about the same time that the Braves' plane returned them to post-season irrelevance.

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 08, 2013 03:26 AM (4LI4E)

58 I am surprised that "police chief" thought he could get away with targeting an NAACP led protest. Didn't he know they were "off limits"?

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:27 AM (zZbNF)

59 Being on disability in the hills of Kentucky is a lifestyle and a career.

Posted by: NCKate at October 08, 2013 03:28 AM (tlIcr)

60 Here's a good one - the libs who work with my wife were claiming the amber alert shutdown was a 'hoax.'

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2013 03:29 AM (uhAkr)

61 59 -

Exactly... so having a lawyer named Conn involved in the process just seems like overkill.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 08, 2013 03:29 AM (BeSEI)

62 Being on disability is a career everywhere now. I have seen reports that 50% of the SSDI payments were either direct fraud or an abuse of the prgam.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:30 AM (zZbNF)

63 The architect of the Obamacare technology is this guy: http://bit.ly/1eXqI5q Todd Park was previously a business partner of Jonathon Bush, cousin to GWB and nephew to GHWB. Together, they founded a company called athenahealth of Boston, which is a public company, that has made millions from "Electronic Health Records", a federally paid for effort to make every citizens health records accessible over the Internet.

Posted by: MTF at October 08, 2013 03:30 AM (p12qs)

64 Burt, making over a million dollars in a flyspeck town should have been a clue too. Conn was one of the top paid disability lawyers in the country.

Posted by: NCKate at October 08, 2013 03:31 AM (tlIcr)

65 Todd Park was previously a business partner of Jonathon Bush, cousin to GWB and nephew to GHWB Wow. The left's gonna blame Boooooosh for this, aren't they?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2013 03:32 AM (uhAkr)

66 60 Here's a good one - the libs who work with my wife were claiming the amber alert shutdown was a 'hoax.'

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2013 07:29 AM (uhAkr)

Ask them if the definition of "hoax" has changed to an illegal act by high gov officials.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:32 AM (zZbNF)

67 Being on disability and then appearing on daytime judge shows is, I guess, two careers.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 08, 2013 03:34 AM (GmTxn)

68 Squawk Box on CNBC has good panel right now..

Posted by: Yip at October 08, 2013 03:34 AM (/jHWN)

69 Ask them if the definition of "hoax" has changed to an illegal act by high gov officials. It doesn't even matter. Low-info lib voters just invent their own reality or mumble whatever and wander off.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2013 03:34 AM (uhAkr)

70 NYTimes reports that the faulty Obamacare websites were designed by contractors, who the White House has declined to identify.

Of course they have. Just like no one seems to be able to find the name of the person(s) who told the NPS in Tennessee to block of roadways and thus prevent children from returning home from school. Just like no one seems to be able to find the names of the Park Rangers who agreed to do that. Just like no one seems to be able to find the name of the man who immolated himself on the National Mall.

Too bad the CDC is shut down. There certainly seems to be a troubling epidemic of amnesia sweeping the nation.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 08, 2013 03:34 AM (Gk3SS)

71 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2013 07:29 AM (uhAkr)

The truth....it burns!

They just put it back up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 08, 2013 03:34 AM (/kU/5)

72 Writing tricks that invokes George Lucas as an positive example? I think I would prefer to tackle dino-pr0n than use any advice from this site.
http://www.thewritingjungle.com/time/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 08, 2013 03:34 AM (A2SA7)

73 BTW, the shutdown of the Amber Alert program was not only unnecessary, it was a violation of federal law as well.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:35 AM (zZbNF)

74 Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 08, 2013 07:34 AM (Gk3SS)

Careful, or you will be charged with "hooliganism."

[are you old enough to remember that?]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 08, 2013 03:36 AM (/kU/5)

75 If not for all the SSDI fraud and Pickford money and other government fraud and graft... just how bad would the economy really be...?? I'd say pretty freakin bad.

Posted by: Yip at October 08, 2013 03:36 AM (/jHWN)

76 70 Just like no one seems to be able to find the name of the man who immolated himself on the National Mall.

They have ID'd the man.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:37 AM (zZbNF)

77 Wonder if Binder and Binder would take up a class action SSDI? Claim being a Moron of the Horde is a disability.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 08, 2013 03:37 AM (A2SA7)

78 CBD, nowadays all the hooligans graduate with $40k in debt and degrees in gender studies from Ivy League schools.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 08, 2013 03:38 AM (A2SA7)

79 Careful, or you will be charged with "hooliganism."

[are you old enough to remember that?]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 08, 2013 07:36 AM (/kU/5)

Of course I'm not! [ by which I mean I totally am ]

They have ID'd the man.
Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 07:37 AM (zZbNF)

Yes. I know. That was rather the point of the snark. All of that information is readily available. It's just that the MFM does not see fit to share with the plebes.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 08, 2013 03:40 AM (Gk3SS)

80 The piecemeal bills in large part aren't working because the GOP blows at marketing. Hold a huge effing press conference guys and explain the truth. Obama says republicans won't vote, but they've voted 26 times since the shutdown. Senate has voted 0 times. Also explain how the constitution requires the senate to pass a budget, which they haven't in almost had a decade. Despite the Obama media they could take control of the narrative if they wanted.

Posted by: andrew at October 08, 2013 03:40 AM (VjlMj)

81 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 08, 2013 07:38 AM (A2SA7)

Actually we would be considered hooligans (the Soviet definition).

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 08, 2013 03:41 AM (/kU/5)

82 Just read an American Spectator piece on that book exposing the Matthew Shepard con job the media did on everyone. Here's an interesting little tidbit about gay "martyr" Shepard's life that didn't get reported in the MSM: Shepard had once been arrested for molesting two eight-year-old boys. Quite a poster boy for "harmless" gays, eh?

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at October 08, 2013 03:41 AM (/sohm)

83 The wife brought home a ~7th grade lesson plan on the water cycle, Common Cores, from another teacher. I reviewed it carefully for accuracy, and it was, pretty basic general stuff. The problem is that leftist teachers are going to subvert the lesson with their own agenda. For example, this lesson plan mentioned pollution as having an effect on the water cycle in a peripheral way. No mention of CO2. If I was teaching the class I *might* touch on CO2 and mention that the planet has had much higher levels of CO2 in the past, in fact two or three times as much -- and there is too much hyperbola about 400 parts per million. Another teacher with an agenda would be, 'OMG, we're killing the planet and the oceans are rising'. Common Cores is just a guideline. All you can do is watch what a leftist teacher does, and bitch to the higher ups. Maybe get a petition among parents. In my wife's (private) school there is only one lefty on the faculty. This lefty has toned down her act considerably, because parents were pulling kids from the school to avoid having their children in her class. The school was nearly closed because of declining enrollment. She finally put 2 + 2 together. Lefties *sometimes* 'get it' but you have to beat them over the head with a clue bat.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 08, 2013 03:41 AM (U2UQk)

84 >> Just like no one seems to be able to find the name of the man who immolated himself on the National Mall.

atc, Daily Mail has his name and age, but nothing else about him. Police are 'investigating'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 08, 2013 03:41 AM (wNF3N)

85 @75 The problem is even bigger than people realize. The jobs losses we have been experiencing under obama have become permanent, they are not coming back. Couple that with looming amnesty and we are staring 10 to 15% structural unemployment in the face. Its going to be grim for at least the next 10-15 years on thr job front for most people. Goverment and municipal workers will as always have a feathered nest.

Posted by: kreplach at October 08, 2013 03:43 AM (tmzN0)

86 I am using the definition to describe the foot soldiers of tyranny. Not quite the thugs Lenin had to topple the Kerensky government, but effective enough since in both cases the hooligans are dependent upon a benefactor to keep them financially afloat.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 08, 2013 03:44 AM (A2SA7)

87 84 Gnu Breed @7:41,

atc, Daily Mail has his name and age, but nothing else about him. Police are 'investigating'.

Yeah pretty much for any "Old Skoo" reporting you have to go to foreign papers these days.

"New Skoo" reporting involves things like well Shempf Smiff Action News.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 03:44 AM (9jfyN)

88 Posted by: kreplach at October 08, 2013 07:43 AM (tmzN0)

I posted a link yesterday to an article that said real unemployment was 31%.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:44 AM (zZbNF)

89 Well, contractors do quite a bit for many agencies of government--primarily because government employees are often too lazy or incompetent to do the work themselves.

Posted by: Zoy at October 08, 2013 03:45 AM (lDgIe)

@39- "If this was a Repuke admin the people who created the account would have already been broadcast by the MFM whether they released it or not."-Vic

My guess is that it's the Mexican billionaire who owns part the NYT. He also sells the government the air time for the Obama phones. He's a busy man with all kinds of companies. Carlos Helu? or something like that.

Posted by: Case at October 08, 2013 03:45 AM (9mWut)

91 Am. Thinker has a Matthew Sheppard book review too, with the angle of how the Media and victim groups shaped the message and ignored what didn't fit, just as they did later with Zimmerman and little Travon.

It is clear (to me ) the media have been doing this shit for a very long time.

Posted by: Yip at October 08, 2013 03:45 AM (/jHWN)

92 91 It is clear (to me ) the media have been doing this shit for a very long time.

Posted by: Yip at October 08, 2013 07:45 AM (/jHWN)

See post #1, since at least 1897.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:46 AM (zZbNF)

93 Carlos Helu? or something like that. Posted by: Case at October 08, 2013 07:45 AM (9mWut) **************** I think Carlos Slim is the name of the (billionaire) criminal you're thinking of. He's the Mexican tele-com guy who owns part of the NY Times, and he also owns Tracfone, which scams the government and U.S. consumers for millions in the Obamaphone program.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at October 08, 2013 03:47 AM (/sohm)

94 91 Yip @7:45,

It is clear (to me ) the media have been doing this shit for a very long time.

The newsies have been getting people killed with news since at least the Spanish-American war.

I posted a link to a story about a Ft Lewis GI being racially lynched in the ONT late.

"Justice 4 Traybon" has another notch on its gunbelt.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 03:47 AM (9jfyN)

95 William Randolph Hearst. Yellow Journalism. "Remember the Maine!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 08, 2013 03:47 AM (A2SA7)

96 92 Vic@ 7:46,

See post #1, since at least 1897.

Great minds and all that.

Newsies love their stories and happily bend reality to fit it.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 03:49 AM (9jfyN)

97 I'm gonna keep my eye on this trucker rally and million vet march in D.C this weekend. Could be a big nothing or, if handled poorly by TPTB, very interesting.

Posted by: jj at October 08, 2013 03:49 AM (gWO5X)

98 @88 31% in some demographics and some locales. The real unemployment is about 10-15% A nation wide unemployment rate of 30% would be greater than the great depression and would not be able to be papered over no matter how much money the government was throwing at people.

Posted by: kreplach at October 08, 2013 03:49 AM (chqG9)

99 I want this as a PVC pre-painted figure kit.
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/jason-chan-illustration-09.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 08, 2013 03:49 AM (A2SA7)

100 Sven, weren't the murderers soldiers as well?

Posted by: NCKate at October 08, 2013 03:50 AM (tlIcr)

101 In their continuing war on the public to "make it hurt" the corrupt Obama administration has closed the Foothills Parkway in TN blocking access for schools and graveyards.

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At my last count, this is about the umpteenth assholeish thing Obama has done over this shutdown to harm the American people. Then why is it that I'm hearing on Fox (just heard in passing on Megan Kelly's new show) that R's are suffering in the polls because of this? They're the ones paying the political price. W.T.F.??

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 08, 2013 03:50 AM (XB5Ak)

102 97 JJ @7:49,

I'm gonna keep my eye on this trucker rally and million vet march in D.C this weekend. Could be a big nothing or, if handled poorly by TPTB, very interesting.

The non Lunatic Left American people need to get organized and destroy the DC Hoi Polloi Overclass.

This will take more coordination and planning than the middle and right prefer engaging in.

Out Alinsky the Alinskyites.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 03:51 AM (9jfyN)

103 Yeah, I know Vic.... but it just seems so insidious now... cause only since the , what '60s?.. was the professional, college educated journalist deemed and foisted on us as the fifth estate... the check on Government and Big Business with a fair hand...

Posted by: Yip at October 08, 2013 03:51 AM (/jHWN)

104 100 NCKate @7:50,

Sven, weren't the murderers soldiers as well?

Yup and it was instantly deemed "not a hate crime" by the authorities.

There is a lot of tension in the ranks right now.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 03:52 AM (9jfyN)

105 98 A nation wide unemployment rate of 30% would be greater than the great depression and would not be able to be papered over no matter how much money the government was throwing at people.

Posted by: kreplach at October 08, 2013 07:49 AM (chqG9)

From IBD

http://tinyurl.com/mn8f5b4

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:54 AM (zZbNF)

106 Yeah, Sven, I read that.. that incident is shocking. The media was instantly disinterested in the racial part of it, and doubly disinterested now that it's a soldier on soldier thing. They can't make that work for their agenda, so it will go down the rabbit hole like the murders in Chicago and DC.

Posted by: Yip at October 08, 2013 03:55 AM (/jHWN)

107

A Fox News national poll asks voters to imagine being a lawmaker and having to cast an up-or-down vote on raising the debt ceiling: 37 percent would vote in favor of it, while 58 percent would vote against it.

Doesn't sound too bad to me, Lady. But I'm on the Vic train.....screw the polls...too much goes in to what questions are asked, how, and to whom.

Posted by: FITP at October 08, 2013 03:55 AM (qrzaU)

108 Posted by: Yip at October 08, 2013 07:45 AM (/jHWN) *************** Saw that article. One thing that struck me was how both families (the Shepard mother, and the Trayvon mother and babby-daddy) were so eager to participate in the scams that the grievance industry and MSM built up around their dead kids. These parents, probably better than anyone, knew the truth about who their kids were. Yet they all quickly jumped on board the scam train. Was it the money that motivated them, or was it the chance to pretend that they bore no responsibility for their messed-up kids' lives? "It wasn't bad parenting that led dear Matthew to become a child molester and meth dealer, it was gay prejudice"! "It wasn't bad parenting that led dear Trayvon to become a gangsta thug and thief, it was raaaaacism!"

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at October 08, 2013 03:56 AM (/sohm)

109 101 They're the ones paying the political price. W.T.F.??

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 08, 2013 07:50 AM (XB5Ak)

Because ALL the alphabets are blaming Republicans and Fox is blaming both.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 03:56 AM (zZbNF)

110 106 Yip @7:55,

They can't make that work for their agenda, so it will go down the rabbit hole like the murders in Chicago and DC.

Quite. I want to be clear that I wish Shapiro nothing but success on his new project. The media is the enemy, and they are an enemy they are not good people misguidedly "getting it wrong" by some accident, because they willfully get it wrong to put English on the Political Billiard Ball.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 03:57 AM (9jfyN)

111 What is so sick is there is a Matthew Sheppard freaking Foundation!!!! Good grief! For a methhead/dealer/child molester. I could care less about him being a ghey ( excepting of course the child abuse). That he was held up the way he was and his death used is so pathetic!

Posted by: Yip at October 08, 2013 03:58 AM (/jHWN)

112 Morning! Chilling (both literally and figuratively!) in Wisconsin - but it's really beautiful fall weather up here.

I'll bring y'all back some cheese curds..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 08, 2013 03:59 AM (0l9kA)

113 In their continuing war on the public to "make it hurt" the corrupt Obama administration has closed the Foothills Parkway in TN blocking access for schools and graveyards. http://tinyurl.com/nfbrtc3 Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 06:53 AM (zZbNF) You know, it's getting to the point where I could see people in a rural South or Midwest area telling the DC folks to piss off.

Posted by: Mainah at October 08, 2013 03:59 AM (659DL)

114

Even Democrats, by a 48-42 percent margin, are more likely to say spending cuts must accompany an increase in the debt limit

Seriously....go read it...front o\page at Fox news dot com

(Sorry, don't know how to post links)

Posted by: FITP at October 08, 2013 03:59 AM (qrzaU)

115 *poof* And someone is vapourised.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 08, 2013 04:00 AM (A2SA7)

116 NYTimes reports that the faulty Obamacare websites were designed by contractors, who the White House has declined to identify. *** The important thing is that it is not Obama's fault.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 08, 2013 04:00 AM (ee9LE)

117 @105 That 31% comes from an IBD survey. Real unemployment is not 31% nation wide. If obamacare fully kicks in and his other wars on business bear fruit then yeah it will probably exceed the great depression by orders of magnitude, but we are not there yet.

Posted by: kreplach at October 08, 2013 04:01 AM (qvsl/)

118 ...or daughters. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Y-not popping in for a sec on the phone at October 08, 2013 04:02 AM (5H6zj)

119 Yeah, Shapiros' effort will be worthy of an eye and see if they can thread that needle of calling out the bias and putting pressure on corporate supporters without coming across as petty or vindictive. Lots to expose! They could spend a year just outing the charitable trusts that exclusively fund lefty storylines and memes of any given news cycle .

Posted by: Yip at October 08, 2013 04:02 AM (/jHWN)

120 116 Walrus Rex,

The important thing is that it is not Obama's fault.

THE ONLY thing that matters is everything good is on him and everything bad is beyond human control...never mind that they pretend he is ear Godlike in the breadth and span of his reach and grasp.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:03 AM (9jfyN)

121

I'll bring y'all back some cheese curds..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 08, 2013 07:59 AM (0l9kA)

Remember, real cheese curds squeak.

Posted by: steveegg at October 08, 2013 04:03 AM (o44nj)

122 Long Island Middle school bans all sports balls during recess for safety. They already took away all the playground equipment so I guess the kids can just go out and sit in the dirt and make mud pies. *** Or they could form committees to address social justice issues.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 08, 2013 04:04 AM (LqKux)

123 @49 - I am very close to a NPS Ranger. She is furious that the higher-ups are allowing the Park Service to be used as Obama's stormtroopers, especially considering that Obama ignored the Parks during his first term. Funding for the Parks is inadequate for even basic maintenance, and now Obama is wasting their money by having them participate in Shutdown Theater. The Parks were much better off under Bush. Sadly, most of the NPS personnel are lefties who probably aren't able to figure out why the Parks are worse off now than under Bush.

Posted by: biancaneve at October 08, 2013 04:04 AM (2sR50)

124 111 What is so sick is there is a Matthew Sheppard freaking Foundation!!!! Good grief! For a methhead/dealer/child molester. **************** Yep, and there is a Trayvon Martin Foundation too. It's the new template for how to respond when your criminal offspring gets himself killed: (1) scream that he was a victim of oppression, (2) lie your ass off about who he really was and how he really lived, (3) set up a foundation to collect money in the name of your "victim" child, and (4) laugh all the way to the bank at the suckers who fell for your con!

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at October 08, 2013 04:05 AM (/sohm)

125 117 Real unemployment is not 31% nation wide.

If obamacare fully kicks in and his other wars on business bear fruit then yeah it will probably exceed the great depression by orders of magnitude, but we are not there yet.

Posted by: kreplach at October 08, 2013 08:01 AM (qvsl/)

They say it is.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 04:06 AM (zZbNF)

126 119 Yip@ 8:02,

Yeah, Shapiros' effort will be worthy of an eye and see if they can thread that needle of calling out the bias and putting pressure on corporate supporters without coming across as petty or vindictive. Lots to expose! They could spend a year just outing the charitable trusts that exclusively fund lefty storylines and memes of any given news cycle.

I am thinking what would do wonders would be compartmentalizing the coverage with a faux editor vetting the charges. Make the primary focus isolating a victim and then pulling on the loose thread until the garment falls apart. NBC is very vulnerable because of the incestuous relationship between NBC, MSLSD, and CNBC. I'm hoping Ace gets his pound of flesh through his Breitbart contacts.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:07 AM (9jfyN)

127 Â“None of the deals Biden has struck have aged well from the perspective of the Democratic Caucus." That is very funny when you consider that Biden was the only one that McConnell & Reid would talk to. McConnell made the deals with Biden & Reid. I canÂ’t stand McConnell, he pretends to be a conservative, especially now that heÂ’s up for reelection next year with both a republican and dem running against him. I can type, there are some words I always misspell, usually words with Â“i.e.Â” in them. Autocorrect put the quotes & periods in that last sentence. Autocorrect still works well on my Mac but has anyone noticed that it has really changed words on iPads & iPhones? Or is it me? Good Morning.

Posted by: CarolT at October 08, 2013 04:07 AM (z4WKX)

128 123 biancaneve@8:04,

The Parks were much better off under Bush. Sadly, most of the NPS personnel are lefties who probably aren't able to figure out why the Parks are worse off now than under Bush.

Hope she weathers the blowback from this well. I am pretty much to the point that nuking the NPS budget is my new hobby as a political person. Force divestiture and devolution back to the states of the Parks.

NPS decided to lie down with donks...they're gonna get up with fleas and a sore ass.

Time for the morning jog, be safe y'all.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:10 AM (9jfyN)

129 Doesn't sound too bad to me, Lady.

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I think the supposed doom polling for R's was related specifically to the shutdown and who is to blame. Not necessarily tied to the debt ceiling. I highly doubt 80% of Americans know what the CR and shutdown is all about, let alone what the debt ceiling means. The stoopid...it reigns supreme.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 08, 2013 04:11 AM (XB5Ak)

130 Time for the morning jog, be safe y'all.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 08:10 AM (9jfyN)

You're gonna go jogging in this shitty weather?

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 04:11 AM (zZbNF)

131 Biden 2016 for Let It Burn. Just think - he is the "gravitas" guy for this administration. &

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2013 04:11 AM (4+AaH)

132 Daily Mail has his name and age, but nothing else about him. Police are 'investigating'.

What?! No picture?!

Posted by: Fred Krueger at October 08, 2013 04:12 AM (gfGOZ)

133 131 Vic @ 8:11,

You're gonna go jogging in this shitty weather?

Vic I'm a Yankee...this weather feels like home.

Enjoy the porch if able.

See you soon.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:12 AM (9jfyN)

134 Sweet, I got ampersands. &&&& I guess my application was approved.

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2013 04:12 AM (4+AaH)

135 I talked to an Indian contractor on the 404Care site. With no political axe to grind, he told me it failed because of too any contractors to accommodate all the quotas they had to fill. 10% women-owned, 15%minority-owned...

We all get the picture.

Posted by: Valiant at October 08, 2013 04:12 AM (aFxlY)

136 Vic, Thanks for link at #12. I was in MarkeyÂ’s district my entire life, until redistricting, now I have Capuano. I would have liked to vote for Stopa but heÂ’d probably be a disappointment too like Brown. Most MA republicans should call themselves dem lights.

Posted by: CarolT at October 08, 2013 04:13 AM (z4WKX)

137 134 Enjoy the porch if able.

See you soon.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 08:12 AM (9jfyN)

LOL, it's 62Ã‚Â° and the wind is gusting to 23 mph.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 04:14 AM (zZbNF)

138 132 Biden 2016 for Let It Burn. Just think - he is the "gravitas" guy for this administration. ---- Biden will be the nominee in 2016. Just like Bush in 88. Right now I give him a 55 percent change of being the next President.

Posted by: Czar Peter's political arm at October 08, 2013 04:14 AM (4LI4E)

139 123 - I feel bad for anyone who has to work surrounded by lefties as I suffer that everyday too. My moon at boss was incredulous that he got some pushback fom a cop after he his rant damning th republicans at a breakfast meeting yesterday. He couldn't believe that a cop (who he believes is beneath him because bossman doesnt like guns!) could have the audacity to address him at all let alone say the fault belonged to both parties. But this is mass and the moon bats don't get much pushback. We have friends that own business in the white mountains of New Hampshire and they are closing the campgrounds etc, just read that a jogger was "ticketed" $100 for jogging in the valley forge national park. It is ridiculous.

Posted by: Puttanesca, the sauce at October 08, 2013 04:14 AM (1ThpN)

140 I think we should just leave the Federal govt shut down.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at October 08, 2013 04:14 AM (3ZtZW)

141 My sister announced at dinner on Sunday that she was quitting her tenured public school teacher's position as of June because she can't stomach Common Core. She said she can't see how lowering standards and expectations is going to motivate students who are already apathetic and academically retarded. She said she used to find that small group of kids who were actually there to learn, whose parents actually care, and focus on them. Last year, she had none. None.

Posted by: Gem at October 08, 2013 04:15 AM (zw+pb)

142 Gubbermint is shut down and the damn politicians are STILL talking

Posted by: Caliban at October 08, 2013 04:17 AM (DrC22)

143

think the supposed doom polling for R's was related specifically to the shutdown and who is to blame. Not necessarily tied to the debt ceiling.

Yep, I get that. But if you look at that poll, even Shutdown related stuff is not at all terrible.

But, again, damn the polls. Unless you are very close to an election and the pollsters are worried about their credibility, polls are mostly used to "set" opinion, not "measure" opinion.

Posted by: FITP at October 08, 2013 04:17 AM (qrzaU)

144 We have friends that own business in the white mountains of New Hampshire and they are closing the campgrounds etc, just read that a jogger was "ticketed" $100 for jogging in the valley forge national park. It is ridiculous.

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Jogger should've started voicing an opinion about anything. Apparently, the 1st amendment privilege is enough to allow you to be on "closed" public lands. Oh, what's that? Only if you're Hispanic? Nevermind.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 08, 2013 04:18 AM (XB5Ak)

145 So the defund thing was dumb, and Cruz just trying to draw attention to himself, and delay is genius. Please explain.

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2013 04:19 AM (4+AaH)

146 The latest CNN poll says both sides are to blame. Since it is a CNN poll you can add 5 points worth of blame to the Dems.

http://is.gd/bkLl36

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 04:21 AM (zZbNF)

147 Obama has had as long to prepare for 404care launch as it took the US to win WWII.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 08, 2013 04:21 AM (LqKux)

148 just read that a jogger was "ticketed" $100 for jogging in the valley forge national park I'll be damned, you're right...Valley Forge used to be a state park, time to take it back, I guess. http://tinyurl.com/VFNPisNuts

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 08, 2013 04:21 AM (U2UQk)

149

I talked to an Indian contractor on the 404Care site. With no political axe to grind, he told me it failed because of too any contractors to accommodate all the quotas they had to fill. 10% women-owned, 15%minority-owned...

I'm gobsmacked by the difference in performance between the Dem GOTV software and this effort.

Quite honestly I never would have thought that shitty software would have even been an issue for the ObamaCare implementation.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2013 04:22 AM (TpXEI)

150 149. Exactly - take them back!

Posted by: Puttanesca, the sauce at October 08, 2013 04:23 AM (1ThpN)

151 Obama is threatening to illegally cut off SS payments to seniors. Hell, why not? He is impeachment proof.

http://tinyurl.com/lvfmyuw

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2013 06:56 AM (zZbNF)

and yet we give them another tool to use to get their way when this issue ever comes up in the future.

"You won't raise the debt, better give us what we want , No Obamacare payouts for anyone!"

Posted by: willow at October 08, 2013 04:23 AM (nqBYe)

152 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2013 08:22 AM (TpXEI)

"Robust code for me but not for thee."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 08, 2013 04:23 AM (/kU/5)

153 Since it is a CNN poll you can add 5 points worth of blame to the Dems. heh, true

Posted by: Case at October 08, 2013 04:23 AM (9mWut)

154 122 mudpies? no. dirt fight! dirt clod = iceball. spit+dirt = snowball. dirt in someones pants=snow down the collar. rock = rock...dont do that. pee+dirt=yellow snowball....dont do it unless you want a fight and detention

Posted by: losthusker at October 08, 2013 04:24 AM (l4jYh)

155

So Sen. Reid wants to hold firm and the White House is thinking that enough has been done. I wonder why that would be? Why would the Senate be the party that wants to shut things down and not negotiate with the House? What would be the point of that, what in the Senate position is so important that it cannot be compromised at all? Or is it a fit of pique, a clash of personalities that isn't reasonable that is driving this?

Kind of interesting now.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet has Petulance and Tantrums in all styles and colors! at October 08, 2013 04:25 AM (hLRSq)

156 "President Stompy Food" hashtag on Twitter. LOL: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23PresidentStompyFoot&src=hash

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 08, 2013 04:26 AM (a4Omg)

157 I used to entertain fantasies of Vlad Putin shagging the shit out of Obama while simultaneously tearing his heart out and eating it in front of him. Of course now that this has ACTUALLY HAPPENED in psychological terms (the Syria rebuff), what does the emasculate wankstain Obambi do? He vents his rage upon his own people. It's like the abusive husband whose brother in law smacked him a good one for pushing the wife about, so he goes home and kicks the dog. God, how I hate that pathetic stupid bastard. I hate him with the fire of a thousand suns, and I'm not even American.

Posted by: perturbed at October 08, 2013 04:27 AM (TXq4O)

158

what in the Senate position is so important that it cannot be compromised at all?

Two words :

Ted Cruz

and three words

Reid no likey

Posted by: FITP at October 08, 2013 04:27 AM (qrzaU)

159 As far as polling goes, what I really want to see is one that gauges just how much blame President Douche gets for being such a petty tyrant in closing down all this stuff to harm his fellow Americans. I'm sure the majority haven't, won't or can't put 2 + 2 together enough to see where this is coming from.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 08, 2013 04:27 AM (XB5Ak)

160 Hiya! "I think that the Dems are terrified that the people are going to figure out just how much the Federal government is 'not' necesary." Said it yester, I'll say it today, and maybe I oughta AllenG/JJ Sefton-style post it like a mantra every morning (no).... Military & vets aside (if their pay or support has been affected), I haven't heard of anything being shut down or affected by the shutdown that the Govt ought to be doing in the first place.

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 08, 2013 04:28 AM (INyZp)

161 At least when defense companies fuck up, a lockheed or Raytheon CEO has to admit they fucked up. This is pretty cool that you can build shit products for the govt and have it be a secret. Most. Transparent. EVAR!!!!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 08, 2013 04:29 AM (ZPrif)

162 Since it is a CNN poll you can add 5 points worth of blame to the Dems. heh, true Posted by: Case at October 08, 2013 08:23 AM (9mWut) CNN poll should probably add 15 points to dems for the blame. The JEF has refused to talk to republicans. If you refuse to talk to them, how can anything be agreed upon? Has any LIV gotten pissed off yet at TFG? I know of a few supporters that were so proud of electing & reelecting him that are now pissed off by Obamacare premiums in CA.

Posted by: CarolT at October 08, 2013 04:31 AM (z4WKX)

163 That USA Today editorial claims right out of the gate that 8 million hits = demand for O-care. What they don't mention is that the #1 question asked at the site is "how do I get an exemption". Shameless.

Posted by: mc at October 08, 2013 04:31 AM (lrfmC)

164 You know, it's getting to the point where I could see people in a rural South or Midwest area telling the DC folks to piss off. Posted by: Mainah at October 08, 2013 07:59 AM (659DL) I canÂ’t wait for that to happen!

Posted by: CarolT at October 08, 2013 04:32 AM (z4WKX)

165 If Obama won't throw the contractor under the bus, you know there's some campaign donation connection. Or the contracts were awarded Affirmative Action style to Eric Holder's nephew or something.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 08, 2013 04:33 AM (ZPrif)

166 Exactly - take them back! I remember when the Feds took over Valley Forge. They started all sorts of shit. They even wanted to close a major road that goes through the park. Public outcry was the only thing that stopped it from happening. The state should take it the hell back and turn it revenue neutral.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 08, 2013 04:33 AM (U2UQk)

167 Whew...

that'll get the lungs working

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:34 AM (9jfyN)

168 John Lennon wrote that "Instant Karma's gonna get you, gonna knock you right in the head."

He was lucky enough to die before us, who are left to discover that the Democrat in power who brings the most gravitas is Joe Biden.

Meditate on that, America - and despair!

Posted by: Adjoran at October 08, 2013 04:35 AM (473jB)

169 138 Vic@ 8:14,

LOL, it's 62Ã‚Â° and the wind is gusting to 23 mph.

We call that Spring back home Vic...

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:35 AM (9jfyN)

170 #150 I'm not because I'm convinced there was massive vote fraud in Ohio that the state Repukes couldn't be bothered to challenge. Between that show of gutlessness and running the father of 404Care, they can piss up a rope.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 08, 2013 04:37 AM (b76bb)

171 Shouldn't that read, "Day 8. America held hostage."?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 08, 2013 04:37 AM (i4xvM)

172 "What does short-term buy us? That buys us Thanksgiving in Washington." gobble gobble. And the Turkeys come home to Roost.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 08, 2013 04:38 AM (MhA4j)

173 http://tinyurl.com/nrcv6ps

Uh-oh Peanut Chamberlain is slagging on Ogabe...

OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) -- Former President Jimmy Carter said Monday that the income gap in the United States has increased to the point where members of the middle class resemble the Americans who lived in poverty when he occupied the White House.

Now of course Jimmy Carter wants Ogabe to go ever leftard....

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:40 AM (9jfyN)

174 Not sure if anyone already said this, but a runner parked his car in an inconspicuous location and did a run in Valley Forge Park. Cops were waiting for him when, he returned, and he got a $100 fine. Ironically, this Administration will not let this poor man follow Moochelle's advice and just move! I bet he drank a lot of water afterwards too...

Posted by: runningrn at October 08, 2013 04:40 AM (PLOz8)

175 @163- I think CA gets what it deserves. They send those two sorry-ass Senators to Washington along with that god-awful Nancy Polousy. And they elect Obummer twice. Damn place. Oh, and that big nosed Waxman, I can't stand him.

Posted by: Case at October 08, 2013 04:40 AM (9mWut)

176 I had a conversation with a LIV last night. He told me that he had just sent an email to Ted Cruz thanking him for shutting down the parks and screwing over a bunch of scouts who were planning on camping there.

I told him that Ted Cruz had nothing whatsoever to do with that. That it was the Administration, aka TFG, who chose how to handle the shutdown.

He replied that well, it was because Republicans in Congress wouldn't vote on spending.

I told him that the House had sent over two dozen spending bills to the Senate, controlled by Democrats to fund various aspects of the government.

He replied that they were just mad about Obamacare and that funding had nothing to do with that.

I reminded him that Obamacare required funding and that Republicans were willing to fund absolutely everything else and all they were asking for was a one year delay in Obamacare - something the Democrats should appreciate given how horribly it's been rolled out.

He just walked away.

You can fix ignorance but you can't fix stupid.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at October 08, 2013 04:41 AM (eFYNk)

177 176 Case @8:40,

I think CA gets what it deserves. They send those two sorry-ass Senators to Washington along with that god-awful Nancy Polousy. And they elect Obummer twice. Damn place. Oh, and that big nosed Waxman, I can't stand him.

There's nothing wrong with Mexifornia that the San Andreas Fault can't fix.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:42 AM (9jfyN)

178 One "new normal" possibility: Long-term shutdown Rule by whim Politics Fed svcs for sale at premium Damaging hyjinks

Posted by: Justamom at October 08, 2013 04:43 AM (Sptt8)

179 177 Laughing in Texas @ 8:41,

He just walked away.

You can fix ignorance but you can't fix stupid.

Correct...you are going to save MAYBE 5-10% of LIV nation.

That is why I advocate divorce frankly.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:44 AM (9jfyN)

180 I think CA gets what it deserves. They send those two sorry-ass Senators to Washington along with that god-awful Nancy Polousy. And they elect Obummer twice. Damn place. Oh, and that big nosed Waxman, I can't stand him. Posted by: Case at October 08, 2013 08:40 AM (9mWut) I would agree, but the same can be said for MA, I live here, we have a lot of conservatives. We were pissed off at Scott Brown for being too much of a dem and voted for him last year, but did nothing compared to the his first election. ThatÂ’s why that fool Warren is now a senator, Brown didnÂ’t vote with the republicans enough. We donÂ’t have that many electoral votes. I remember watching 2004 results with a friend in CA and I was upset when CA went to Kerry.

Posted by: CarolT at October 08, 2013 04:45 AM (z4WKX)

181 179 Justamom @8:43,

One "new normal" possibility:
Long-term shutdown
Rule by whim
Politics
Fed svcs for sale at premium
Damaging hyjinks

Yeah we called that the 1870s.

I'm not seeing the down side when the alternative is a pervasive, invasive lockstep helicopter mom government.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:45 AM (9jfyN)

182 10% women-owned, 15%minority-owned... *** I read a headline on Drudge a few days ago about some sensitivity training of something which in the enumerated list of the oppressed included "gender queers." I have no idea what they are but I do hope they had some on this project. Otherwise it wouldn't be fair.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 08, 2013 04:45 AM (ee9LE)

183 181 Carol T @ 8:45,

Carol T I think you can run an insurgency campaign to force the schools to force the teachers onto Obamacare if inclined.

We can weaponize FreeShit Army's populist impulses ourselves.

"Save the Schools some money Yo!"

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:47 AM (9jfyN)

184 At the very least, this casts doubt on the Republican claim that Americans hate Obamacare and want it repealed. It seems millions of people desperately want the coverage the law will allow them to get, regardless of their medical histories. Did anyone read the first paragraph from USA Today? ItÂ’s all bull, no one wants it, they canÂ’t even tell how much itÂ’s going to cost!

Posted by: CarolT at October 08, 2013 04:48 AM (z4WKX)

185 183 Walrus Rex @ 8:45,

I read a headline on Drudge a few days ago about some sensitivity training of something which in the enumerated list of the oppressed included "gender queers." I have no idea what they are but I do hope they had some on this project. Otherwise it wouldn't be fair.

Alinksy 3:16 make 'em live up to their own rules yo....

then when they can't pick up the aggrieved.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:48 AM (9jfyN)

186

I read a headline on Drudge a few days ago about some sensitivity training of something which in the enumerated list of the oppressed included "gender queers." I have no idea what they are but I do hope they had some on this project. Otherwise it wouldn't be fair

IIRC, "gender-queers" are folks that so androgynous that they themselves can't figure out what sex they are. Even with a diagram, apparently.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 08, 2013 04:49 AM (ogBAH)

187 185 Carol T @ 8:48,

Did anyone read the first paragraph from USA Today? ItÂ’s all bull, no one wants it, they canÂ’t even tell how much itÂ’s going to cost!

Diogenes Lamp had it dead on as well.

This "OMFG! Sticker Shock!" Ogabecare is going to be looked back on as the BUDGET model....

wrap your head around that....

"where's my exemption?"

Indeed

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:50 AM (9jfyN)

188 Alinksy 3:16 make 'em live up to their own rules yo.... then when they can't pick up the aggrieved. Curb stomp 'em.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2013 04:50 AM (h1D+w)

189 Uh-oh Peanut Chamberlain is slagging on Ogabe. *** The. Coincidences keep piling up. We're getting ready for a Russian Olympics. The last time Russia hosted the Olympics, Peanut was in the White House.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 08, 2013 04:50 AM (ee9LE)

190 187 Grey Fox @ 8:49,

IIRC, "gender-queers" are folks that so androgynous that they themselves can't figure out what sex they are. Even with a diagram, apparently.

Think Ray Maddow and Christine Hayes.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:51 AM (9jfyN)

191 Since the Shepard debunking has come up-

I met a kid in Queens New York in the 90s named Eric Brown. When I met him I was told he was awaiting a court date. Later I found out it was for murder during a robbery.

Brown and two others lured a gay man to a school that was a gay sex and drug hangout. They had agreed Brown would lure the victim and they would then rob him. They had a wrench and maybe a hammer but one Esat Bichi, had a knife that supposedly the others didn't know about. Bichi stabbed the victim and they left him to die.

This became one of the first big "gay bashing" cases. It was said that the group were part of a skin head gang. That they targeted the victim because he was gay.
There were marches and some of the first talk of hate-crimes laws.

Problem is; Brown is bisexual. It is why they chose him to be the bait. The "skin heads" where so intolerant that the Arab Bichi was allowed to be one.

So yes, the press has been lying for a long time.

Posted by: Typo Dynamofo at October 08, 2013 04:51 AM (URNUb)

192 8 Smartest Man Tan in the room Joey Plugz is not beloved by the left? You're kidding me. Well, they have to protect the Obama Brand (TM) at all costs. If it means losing Plugsy than so be it. I don't really think very many people have ever truly liked Biden. He's a smarmy buffoon. He rubs people the wrong way, and he is absolutely grating. They've had to pretend he is a great brain trust and an asset because Obama chose him twice as his VP. The left thinks Obama is so smart, playing 3D chess, that the MFM and Democrats had to act like Biden is a world class genius. Yes, Biden has been. In the Senate a long time (maybe why Barky picked him?) Since Barry was never actually there, he needed someone entrenched in the "Good Old Boys Club" there who could whip up support on the other side? And since Barry was never there, he didn't know that Biden wasn't really regarded all that well by his colleagues? Just guessing. And yes, Biden had all kind of foreign policy experience (what Obama really lacked), but it was all wrong!

Posted by: runningrn at October 08, 2013 04:51 AM (PLOz8)

193

The United States Federal Reserve announced last week that it would not draw downits $85 billion-a-month bond-buying program (i.e. no Â“taperingÂ”). The Fed made the announcement at precisely 2:00 p.m. EST, Â“as measured by the national atomic clock.Â”

WASHINGTON, DC Â– SEPTEMBER 18: Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke arrives to speak at a news conference at the Federal Reserve, September 18, 2013 in Washington, DC (Credit: Getty Images)

However, just seven milliseconds after the Fed made its announcement, the Chicago exchanges went crazy with huge orders. Seven milliseconds.

The FedÂ’s decision, as always, was closely guarded before it was announced.

How did Chicago react so quickly?

blaze

Posted by: willow at October 08, 2013 04:52 AM (nqBYe)

194 Â“Save the Schools some money Yo!" Sven, yes the teachers should be forced to sign up for Obamacare and I think the next thing that should be cut off are Obamaphones. TFG is so stupid and incompetent that he will piss off the LIVÂ’s and they will turn on him!

Posted by: CarolT at October 08, 2013 04:52 AM (z4WKX)

195 I sit next to a furloughed fed worker in a computer class I'm taking for free at our library. I congratulated her on being non-essential. She says if she applies for and gets unemployment she will not get back-pay, but doesn't feel secure there will be back-pay. She blames congress and is mad that they still get paid when they haven't been doing their jobs.

Posted by: Justamom at October 08, 2013 04:54 AM (Sptt8)

196 195 CarolT @ 8:52,

Sven, yes the teachers should be forced to sign up for Obamacare and I think the next thing that should be cut off are Obamaphones. TFG is so stupid and incompetent that he will piss off the LIVÂ’s and they will turn on him!

Well Obamafo is low on the list. Hell I'd petition to open up the app store with 5 bucks a month allowance in the Sven J Olafson, Mirror Universe John O'Boehner "Freeshit for All" orgy....

that's just me though.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:54 AM (9jfyN)

197 It seems millions of people desperately want the coverage the law will allow them to get, regardless of their medical histories. [Until they find out that it is not free.]

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 08, 2013 04:55 AM (659DL)

198

The republicans need to start adding "clean bill" to every statement about the bills to separately fund the NIH and theVA etc etc..... the fact that Obama and the media push the narrative using certain words while the republicans bumble and stumble is infuriating.

Obama uses "comprehensive" on every bullshit bill he pushes... Obama uses "common sense" on every bullshit bill he pushes... for Gods sake they name bills with bullshit titles like "The Affordable Care Act" to push the bullshit narrative...Now, along comes this "clean" bullshit......

*bullshit is the word of the day*

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at October 08, 2013 04:56 AM (b1tq2)

199 I don't really think very many people have ever truly liked Biden. He probably was responsible for about 75 million consumers getting fucked over by their credit card companies. Delaware was, for the longest time, the only home to all those m_fucking leeches, and they rolled him like a Rastafarian with a bag of weed. It would have been prime material for debate with that shit-for-brains, and opened up many Americans eyes.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 08, 2013 04:57 AM (U2UQk)

200 by the way I am adding my voice to the "the CR shutdown was stoopid but the debt ceiling fight(which would lead to shutdown) was genius BECAUSE?"

peanut gallery....

I'd really appreciate the "Delay" wing explaining how uh Reid is gonna cave on delay in 5 minutes given that was you know Boehner's bargaining poistion the last week?

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:57 AM (9jfyN)

201 "Uh-oh Peanut Chamberlain is slagging on Ogabe. " A friend posted on FB that Peanut is going to go to NJ and rebuild homes for the hurricane Vic's who are still homeless. Who would have thought that Jimmy Carter would be cleaning up Obama's mess? (Which I will call it since he promised there would be no Red Tape or Red Lines...) I always though Peanut did his best work at Habitat 4 Humanity. The man is a master woodworker. If you haven't already, you should look at his stuff!

Posted by: runningrn at October 08, 2013 04:57 AM (PLOz8)

202 187 I read a headline on Drudge a few days ago about some sensitivity training of something which in the enumerated list of the oppressed included "gender queers." I have no idea what they are but I do hope they had some on this project. Otherwise it wouldn't be fair IIRC, "gender-queers" are folks that so androgynous that they themselves can't figure out what sex they are. Even with a diagram, apparently. Posted by: Grey Fox at October 08, 2013 08:49 AM (ogBAH) I laugh when I see people declaring themselves "lesbians in a man's body" or other such things. I once described it as people who've navel-gazed for so long their heads are stuck in their bellybuttons. Seriously these people have had so many people telling them stupid shit about gender/sex, it's amazing any of them actually get around to having any. And don't get me started on the whole "ask someone what pronoun to use on them, which may include him, her, zir, lir, hir, etc."

Posted by: nnptcgrad at October 08, 2013 04:57 AM (MQClr)

203 "gender queers." I have no idea what they are

Your Commanding Officer.

Posted by: Our Modern Army at October 08, 2013 04:59 AM (gfGOZ)

204 198 circa @8:55,

[Until they find out that it is not free.]

Correct, given that "Duh Bwonze Plan" was ~ 50 bucks a month all Ogabecare has done is trebled the cost to 20 somethings.

Heckuva Job Barky...Heckuva Job

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 04:59 AM (9jfyN)

205 The republicans need to start adding "clean bill" to every statement about the bills to separately fund the NIH and theVA etc etc..... the fact that Obama and the media push the narrative using certain words while the republicans bumble and stumble is infuriating. Republicans like it dirty...

Posted by: Sewer Drenched Barry Juice Dripping MFM at October 08, 2013 04:59 AM (PLOz8)

206 I'm gobsmacked by the difference in performance between the Dem GOTV software and this effort.

Quite honestly I never would have thought that shitty software would have even been an issue for the ObamaCare implementation.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2013 08:22 AM (TpXEI)

******

Easy to explain. The difference is spending your money versus spending their own money.

Posted by: lymond at October 08, 2013 04:59 AM (fzxq4)

207 49. the voice of Audrey II http://tinyurl.com/o2lm2hx Then you're advocating for each State to hold the rights and responsibilities for all Parks within borders. Only so long as the federal bureau is disbanded. It would be Washingtonian modus operandi to assume authority along with national tax funding while burdening localities to do all the work without funding (spent on Washingtonian gaming), and according to federal authoritarian dictates. As per the National Park Service participating in Obamalice, look to the Sec. of Interior for accepting/implementing Obama's directives ordering park rangers to comply (or be fired) making things as difficult and painful as possible for Americans. Each malicious player is acting contrary to each job description. Jewell's responsibility FIRST is to advise Obama how to best perform constitutional duties and protect the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. Hence, the swearing in ceremony with her job, his job. Protest Sally Jewell, shy six months "experience" in Obama's Cabinet, Sec./Interior since April 12, 2013.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 08, 2013 04:59 AM (MhA4j)

208 Thanks Sven, I shouldnÂ’t be posting and reading here now. I should be eating & getting ready to go to work. IÂ’m going to go eat a muffin & get dressed now. I hope everyone has a nice day. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at October 08, 2013 05:01 AM (z4WKX)

209 210 Carol mT,

Be safe....

keep smiling it drives the leftards nuts.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 05:02 AM (9jfyN)

210 I always though Peanut did his best work at Habitat 4 Humanity. The man is a master woodworker. If you haven't already, you should look at his stuff! That's the only thing I like about him. I looked into doing *time* (as in hours) on a H4H home in my area. Thinking that I could transfer those credits to my son so he could purchase a H4H in his area minus the hours I accrued on his behalf. They're not big, but a decent, brand new starter home is a decent, brand new starter home. Unfortunately he makes too much money. H4H is only for poor people.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 08, 2013 05:03 AM (U2UQk)

211
The. Coincidences keep piling up. We're getting ready for a Russian Olympics. The last time Russia hosted the Olympics, Peanut was in the White House.

And now we have that same peanut after it's passed through a digestive tract.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 08, 2013 05:04 AM (0IhFx)

212 #202 Adultery of the Heart has been working his wood for a long time.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 08, 2013 05:06 AM (b76bb)

213 http://tinyurl.com/pe3mtk7

FoxNews WI Prof gets bitch slapped trying to place blame on GOP/Tea Party

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 05:06 AM (9jfyN)

214 I'm still upthread. is this thread pre-empted yet? "Sigourney Weaver (real name: Susan Alexandra Weaver)" What's in a (stage) name? Would that which we call a Sigourney, by any other name, like Susan, hover possessed above a bed just as sweet?

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 08, 2013 05:06 AM (6f2wv)

215 I once shot our Thanksgiving turkey through a barn door.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Mossberg at October 08, 2013 05:07 AM (Dwehj)

216 198. [Until they find out that it is not free.] Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 08, 2013 08:55 AM (659DL) [and unavailable to the likes of grunts] Obama Exemptionalism Why would I care about ...?

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 08, 2013 05:07 AM (MhA4j)

217 Leftist bint shat:

Â“If you want to discuss all of this, let me know and I can make an internal discussion board about it. But please donÂ’t forward my emails to conservative blogs or list servs and I will make sure my emails explain things fully,Â” she wrote.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 05:07 AM (9jfyN)

218

>>>H4H is only for poor people.

Fkn selfish and greedy poor people~!

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at October 08, 2013 05:08 AM (3ZtZW)

219 Jimmy Carter: The reason I became a conservative. What an asshole.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 08, 2013 05:09 AM (659DL)

220 What a slap in the face it is to find out SCOAAMTcare administration is being farmed out to Canada. Sure, they may be qualified, but even the broken window theory is insulted. We should be highlighting this.

Posted by: Justamom at October 08, 2013 05:09 AM (Sptt8)

221 Ok that Biden thing is pretty fucking funny.

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at October 08, 2013 05:11 AM (p7BzH)

222 222. Exactly. Obama PROMISED JOBS for Americans. Sure, Canadians love reminding US citizens that Canadians are Americans, too. Obama Exemptionalism Jobs for Canadians, US Citizens Need Not Apply

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 08, 2013 05:11 AM (MhA4j)

223 Oops, SCOAMTTcare. IMHO, as ever.

Posted by: Justamom at October 08, 2013 05:11 AM (Sptt8)

224 I've helped build about half a dozen H4H homes, pouring the basement floors, driveways, etc. A couple times we straight up did it for free, materials, labor, etc., but usually we did it for a deep discount. This was years ago but I still have a couple "I helped build it" t-shirts with the street address of the homes and the date they were finished.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 08, 2013 05:12 AM (ZshNr)

225 OMG! A non patronizing Post this morning! Cool.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 08, 2013 05:12 AM (bb5+k)

226 No, Americans are not exceptional. That would take away from the extra special and unique exceptional

Posted by: Justamom at October 08, 2013 05:13 AM (Sptt8)

227 Decades ago, when Biden FIRST campaigned for POTUS, he used to dish out some good debate performances v. Democrat opponents. But he's had his brain aneurisms since, not to mention selling himself and America how many times over...

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 08, 2013 05:13 AM (MhA4j)

228

http://tinyurl.com/nrcv6ps

Uh-oh Peanut Chamberlain is slagging on Ogabe...

OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) -- Former President Jimmy Carter said Monday that the income gap in the United States has increased to the point where members of the middle class resemble the Americans who lived in poverty when he occupied the White House.

Now of course Jimmy Carter wants Ogabe to go ever leftard....

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 08:40 AM (9jfyN)

Really, Peanut Farmer? REALLY? I know you want to lose your legacy as America's worst President, but to blatantly lie about how bad the poor had it in your day?

Oh yeah - a quick comparo of the poor back in the Peanut Farmer's day and the poor now is over at my place </plug_shameless>

Posted by: steveegg at October 08, 2013 05:14 AM (o44nj)

229 I just winged the turkey with my first shot but dammit, I scared the living devil out of that little bastard!

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Mossberg at October 08, 2013 05:14 AM (Dwehj)

230 221 Jimmy Carter: The reason I became a conservative. What an asshole. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 08, 2013 09:09 AM (659DL) This cannot be said too many times. That man is indirectly responsible for the Deaths of a million people. Utter shithead.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 08, 2013 05:14 AM (bb5+k)

231 So I was just getting coffee in the breakroom, and some scrunt on CNN was showing a poll "Do you blame the shutdown on Republicans, Democrats, or President Obama"--stressing that of course it was the fault of Republicans--but also trying to portray SCOAMF as some sort of non-partisan, i.e., exactly the opposite of reality.

Also the numbers added up to something like 140% of respondents.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a day off at October 08, 2013 05:14 AM (/kI1Q)

232 Sorry, Iphone. As I began, No, Americans are not exceptional. That would take away from the extra special and unique exceptionalism of our very own SCOAMTT.

Posted by: Justamom at October 08, 2013 05:15 AM (Sptt8)

233 Fkn selfish and greedy poor people~! Whatevah. I think an idea worth considering is opening the program up. Let the millions who are unemployed/underemployed work on these homes. Learn something of value. Accumulate credits for hours put in and then; sell or give away those credits, or use them themselves. Open up the sale of the homes to any individual, no matter rich or poor, or middle class. Capital flows from rich -- who may buy them for rental income -- or middle class, who may live in them -- to poor. The nation ends up with a supply of affordable homes, people learn some responsibility, some job skills, instead of waiting around for some job opening which is never going to happen. That's my .02

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 08, 2013 05:15 AM (U2UQk)

234

Jimmy Carter: The reason I became a conservative.

What an asshole.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 08, 2013 09:09 AM (659DL)

It was his fucktard VP...but only because I was still in elementary school when the Peanut Farmer got kicked out of the Oval Office.

Posted by: steveegg at October 08, 2013 05:16 AM (o44nj)

235 So I was just getting coffee in the breakroom, and some scrunt on CNN was showing a poll "Do you blame the shutdown on Republicans, Democrats, or President Obama"--stressing that of course it was the fault of Republicans--but also trying to portray SCOAMF as some sort of non-partisan, i.e., exactly the opposite of reality. Also the numbers added up to something like 140% of respondents. Remember Dems, vote early, vote often!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2013 05:16 AM (h1D+w)

236 Biden is coming to NC to help with Hagan's reelection. Good luck with that.

Posted by: NCKate at October 08, 2013 05:17 AM (tlIcr)

237 235 Schrodinger's Cat @9:15,

The nation ends up with a supply of affordable homes, people learn some responsibility, some job skills, instead of waiting around for some job opening which is never going to happen. That's my .02

Yup, now add in machining to work up to being able to have a distributed power grid....

we need to empower folk.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 05:17 AM (9jfyN)

238 Also the numbers added up to something like 140% of respondents.

Not coincidentally, that kind of math is how Il Douche is planning on "paying" for Barkycare.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 08, 2013 05:17 AM (YVx8A)

239

>>>OMG! A non patronizing Post this morning!

Just for *you* wuggums! now have some more nanner puddin'

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at October 08, 2013 05:17 AM (3ZtZW)

240 And don't get me started on the whole "ask someone what pronoun to use on them, which may include him, her, zir, lir, hir, etc." *** Good lord! I'm trying to learn Latin and am having problems with just three genders. Now you tell me there may be a half dozen more.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 08, 2013 05:17 AM (ee9LE)

241 What's funny is I'll mention some bit news to someone and they'll say, "where did you hear that? I never heard about that!" I respond, that's the problem, the facts are out there, you just have to find them, which takes a bit of effort, which is kind of hard or like work, so most people don't bother. Oh, and I don't watch TV or get any news from the newspapers or MSM which is even more mind boggling to them. A little effort people, it gets you some results

Posted by: lindafell at October 08, 2013 05:18 AM (PGO8C)

242 She said she used to find that small group of kids who were actually there to learn, whose parents actually care, and focus on them. Last year, she had none. None. Posted by: Gem ____ He just walked away. You can fix ignorance but you can't fix stupid. Posted by: Laughing in Texas _____ I see relationships.

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 08, 2013 05:18 AM (sKHit)

243 If H4H idea would work it would necessarily be taxed out of existence.

Posted by: Justamom at October 08, 2013 05:18 AM (Sptt8)

244 now have some more nanner puddin' Mmmmmmm. Cow slobbers.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2013 05:19 AM (h1D+w)

245 245 JustaMom,

The GOP could win tomorrow by agreeing to give 40 acre parcels and engaging in a H4H for the NAALCP.

Hell put it in Utah on the Beijing Bill Clinton Coal Grab area.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 05:20 AM (9jfyN)

246 members of the middle class resemble the Americans who lived in poverty when he occupied the White House.

He might be right, but not for the reasons he thinks; inflation and tax increases (including SCOAMFcare) and restrictions on energy production are wreaking havoc on middle-class families. What are we going to pay this month, insurance premium or electricity?

More insidious: All that working to barely stay afloat, why bother working? That's a poverty mindset, and people with middle-class parents are starting to adopt it just like the third-generation Section 8 people.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a day off at October 08, 2013 05:21 AM (/kI1Q)

247 Individual housing is for selfish Gaia h8ters. Agenda 21, Y'all. Which incidentally, continues apace. Connect the dots. IMHO

Posted by: Justamom at October 08, 2013 05:21 AM (Sptt8)

248 am having problems with just three genders

Sigh. So am I, pal.

Posted by: Chelsea Manning at October 08, 2013 05:21 AM (Dwehj)

249 136 I talked to an Indian contractor on the 404Care site. With no political axe to grind, he told me it failed because of too any contractors to accommodate all the quotas they had to fill. 10% women-owned, 15%minority-owned... Gee, color me shocked! PC gubamint at it's finest. A friend of mine is a new construction plumber. His company had to come and redo a brand new building that provided really nice low income housing in a prime Seattle neighborhood (so a Seattle City project). The City had hired a company owned by a black man that employed only black plumbers. The whole thing was plumbed incorrectly.

Posted by: runningrn at October 08, 2013 05:22 AM (PLOz8)

250 251 runningrn @ 9:22,

The City had hired a company owned by a black man that employed only black plumbers. The whole thing was plumbed incorrectly.

but did the failing firm feel good about themselves?

//Libtard

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 05:24 AM (9jfyN)

251 Yeah, my BIL worked on a fed housing bldg where the trash tubes that went down the outside of the building were constantly clogged with mis- cut countertops.

Posted by: Justamom at October 08, 2013 05:25 AM (Sptt8)

252

>>>Individual housing is for selfish Gaia h8ters.

Kinda wonder about that. Say some societies do go towards that Argosy thinger, with everybody living in some huge mega-building. From an engineering and sanitation viewpoint, isn't that a lot worse? Maybe the only benefit I can see is less? runoff from water sluicing on concrete but even that is suspect. I do know it'd be a fkn hellhole.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at October 08, 2013 05:26 AM (3ZtZW)

253 i knew mcconnell was going to be one of the attackers

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 08, 2013 05:26 AM (8JJ6O)

254

re contractors: there are contractors and contractors. My husband is one, and is often brought in to fix or implement government messes. The problems he discusses (of those he CAN) that seem paramount to me are that legislation is seldom designed around HOW to achieve the feelings for which alleviation is sought by creating the program, consequently projects will have mutually exclusive goals (as far as how things actually work) that are both supposed to somehow magically work. because it got voted on.

There are layers and layers of govt folks who all administer, meet, supervise, and so on--and a bunch of folks who get brought in to clean things up and make them work--if they can get the fixes explained to the admins, supes etc in multiple mtgs so THEY can go to OTHER govt meetings and get somebody to vote to do what the techs suggest.

Add in that some govt tech folks are dinosaurs--a dept gets a multimillion $ system, and it doesn't get replaces/upgraded as fast as the industry moves, and they NEED to bring in contractors because the GS-whatever is a complete and total expert on something that's 2.5 versions ago.

It's already a mess of epic proportion before you ever get to crony whiz kids, which I'm sure happens too. That, and the joke in my husband's set that a lot of the people they work with are "Peggy"--you know the guy in the Siberian shack answering the help line in the commercials?

Posted by: barbarausa at October 08, 2013 05:27 AM (WWeoI)

255 228. The US Constitution, Bill of Rights and our Republic are exceptional. To the degree that we Americans carry on our unique heritage for posterity, we remain exceptional as a people. Even the amalgamation of ethnicity being respected equally under the law has proven exceptional. Where else in the world have people so well become "color blind" to deny racist impulse. Therein, the sick irony. Socialists won't ever permit peaceful coexistence. And it took a 50% African American illegitimate Potus to make Americans ballistic, regardless of ethnicity, regardless of beliefs. So to the degree that Americans take back our Constitutional Republic, indeed we prove an exceptional generation that will not bow to tyranny, and will not bow to divisive patterns of defeat. "Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth." Abraham Lincoln

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 08, 2013 05:27 AM (MhA4j)

256 More insidious: All that working to barely stay afloat, why bother working? That's a poverty mindset, and people with middle-class parents are starting to adopt it just like the third-generation Section 8 people. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a day off at October 08, 2013 09:21 AM (/kI1Q) I'm finding it more and more difficult to comprehend why I'm working when all that is happening is that my money is being stolen to fund programs for people who hate me.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 08, 2013 05:27 AM (VtjlW)

257 Yeah, my BIL worked on a fed housing bldg where the trash tubes that went down the outside of the building were constantly clogged with mis- cut countertops.

That's part of my on-the-job training initiative.

Posted by: Prez'nit Tooltime at October 08, 2013 05:28 AM (Dwehj)

258 It's not really about Gaia (except for the tools), just like SCOAMTTcare isn't about healthcare. It's about control. IMHO

Posted by: Justamom at October 08, 2013 05:28 AM (h1gQR)

259 223 Ok that Biden thing is pretty fucking funny.
Posted by: KG

This whole "administration" is as bad a joke as "recovery(less) summer," err, which one did we just get out of? Five? V? Whatever. Played on Ã˜-Merica.

Posted by: backhoe at October 08, 2013 05:28 AM (ULH4o)

260

2nd grade PS civics:

My son comes home yesterday and explains to me "The president makes the rules, right?" That could be my fault as I have tried to keep him from becoming an annoying political robot at a young age. I do not expect a high degree of civics knowledge at this point. He's sort of immature in many ways, but shrewd as well.

I am just wondering if that is his supposition or if someone actually told him that? Five minutes of baffling things like "separation of powers" among "branches of government" and "power corrupts people" later, I'm hoping for better next time.

Posted by: Beagle at October 08, 2013 05:29 AM (sOtz/)

261
Of course they have. Just like no one seems to be able to find the name of the person(s) who told the NPS in Tennessee to block of roadways and thus prevent children from returning home from school. Just like no one seems to be able to find the names of the Park Rangers who agreed to do that. Just like no one seems to be able to find the name of the man who immolated himself on the National Mall.

Too bad the CDC is shut down. There certainly seems to be a troubling epidemic of amnesia sweeping the nation.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 08, 2013 07:34 AM (Gk3SS)

If there's no record of such orders having been given by proper authority, then I think it's fair to say that there are in fact no such orders and all of these closures are null and void. No?

Posted by: J. Random Dude at October 08, 2013 05:29 AM (72afg)

262

"Quite simply, Obama is telegraphing that he's ready to negotiate. Senate Democrats think that's a terrible idea..."

Look out Democratic Caucus; the rumble you're feeling is the Presnit Pissant bus coming your way. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....sold out by your own President. How deliciously ironic.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 08, 2013 05:29 AM (x1L8S)

263 Good lord! I'm trying to learn Latin and am having problems with just three genders. Now you tell me there may be a half dozen more. Posted by: WalrusRex at October 08, 2013 09:17 AM (ee9LE) Those Romans were a perverted bunch, weren't they? We're getting there. What's the acronym nowadays? QUILTBAG, from Queer/Questioning, Undecided, Intersex, Lesbian, Trans, Bisexual, Asexual, Gay. Yeah, we're collectively nuts.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 08, 2013 05:30 AM (bb5+k)

264 I sure hope ace was up all night pounding out the dino porn. If it is as lucrative as those two chicks claim, go for it. Much better to have conventions with idiots dressed up as dinos and with young ladies in fur bikinis.

Posted by: Jesse at October 08, 2013 05:30 AM (A/ga/)

265 Dump up.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 08, 2013 05:31 AM (YVx8A)

266

>>>>All that working to barely stay afloat, why bother working? That's a poverty mindset, and people with middle-class parents are starting to adopt it just like the third-generation Section 8 people.

Sect 8 people usually have a hustle of some kind, if only selling off parts of their benefits for more-wanted things. Those middle-class parents might be best advised to get their kids looking at being independent of bosses and doing under-the-table work on their own.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at October 08, 2013 05:31 AM (3ZtZW)

267 Yup, now add in machining to work up to being able to have a distributed power grid.... we need to empower folk. Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 09:17 AM (9jfyN) I agree. If people are mostly self sufficient, efforts to force them into a collective relationship are less effective. Independence serves the interest of freedom.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 08, 2013 05:31 AM (bb5+k)

268 I'll have to remember QUILTBAG. I can't say my usual GayBLTs in polite society.

Posted by: NCKate at October 08, 2013 05:32 AM (tlIcr)

269 Nood one.
The Dump.
Yeah!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 08, 2013 05:32 AM (xdC/M)

270 a brand new building that provided really nice low income housing in a prime Seattle neighborhood

Why the fuck did I finish high school and go to college instead of being a junkie whore?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a day off at October 08, 2013 05:34 AM (/kI1Q)

271 m finding it more and more difficult to comprehend why I'm working when all that is happening is that my money is being stolen to fund programs for people who hate me. Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 08, 2013 09:27 AM (VtjlW) my in-laws have started dropping life long friends because they are tired of evenings out turning into an attack on conservatives and their beliefs....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 08, 2013 05:34 AM (8JJ6O)

272 254. Maybe the only benefit I can see is less? runoff from water sluicing on concrete but even that is suspect. Bigby's Punch Bug Blue As if engineering can't figure how to best direct and store runoff somewhere "downstream". Now we'd be talking real jobs, real infrastructure, utilizing the natural resource of runoff productively. Green pea brains don't even make it an academic point of research for undergraduates to explore as a matter of course. The sanitation problems alone help explain why socialist eugenicists would impose congested housing slums on the masses.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 08, 2013 05:35 AM (MhA4j)

273 I'm finding it more and more difficult to comprehend why I'm working when all that is happening is that my money is being stolen to fund programs for people who hate me. Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 08, 2013 09:27 AM (VtjlW) A lot of us are thinking this.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 08, 2013 05:36 AM (bb5+k)

274

I'm finding it more and more difficult to comprehend why I'm working when all that is happening is that my money is being stolen to fund programs for people who hate me.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 08, 2013 09:27 AM (VtjlW)

A lot of us are thinking this.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 08, 2013 09:36 AM (bb5+k)

Where's my gulch?

Posted by: John Galt at October 08, 2013 05:40 AM (o44nj)

275 Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 08, 2013 09:36 AM (bb5+k) Where's my gulch? Posted by: John Galt at October 08, 2013 09:40 AM (o44nj) Everyone has to create their own as best they can.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 08, 2013 05:46 AM (bb5+k)

276 277 Diogenes Lamp @ 9:46,

Everyone has to create their own as best they can.

And the best way to do this is to collapse into enclaves and form interlocking skills and business interests.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 08, 2013 05:47 AM (9jfyN)

277 From upthread one place the Peshtigo fire left untouched...?

The first approved Marian Shrine in North America - Shrine of Our Lady of Good Help.

Cool story.

Posted by: H Badger at October 08, 2013 05:48 AM (n/0Nw)

278 I saw Quiltbag open for The Tubes back in '79.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2013 05:59 AM (MBqvE)

279 Why the fuck did I finish high school and go to college instead of being a junkie whore? Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a day off at October 08, 2013 09:34 AM (/kI1Q) You know why. And you are right that crime sticks to tax funds. Corruption and Fraud hoard the bulk before any public service materializes. What Seattle or any city does with their low income housing is their own business. If Seattle has its own local money to build low cost housing, it's Seattle's business. Jobs are increasingly harder to land. Those who went through recession stagflation before know the signs too well. And that was before the US was already bankrupted. An increasing number of Americans are looking for housing they can afford. Already, 75% of American jobs today are in the service industry, and the pay only provides for low cost living standards, housing et al., and now the hours are decreased. Take PBS source with the grain of salt. But back in 1970, meat packers earned over $50K/yr. Today they earn less than $30K/yr. And that's not addressing inflation in the what housing the working "class" can afford. It's hard, working, as you attest. It's even harder working for low pay. Even if the wage looks good per hour, when the hours are cut to part time, a lot of professionals end up alongside service employee low income. I'd venture to guess that the wealthiest Americans have their own access to tax subsidies (TARP, bail-outs of too big to fail/jail corporations) which hurt the Middle Class tax payers far worse than low cost housing ever could. If it's the principle of attacking those who abuse our tax funds, then go after the big shots. Those who went through recession stagflation before know from experience. And that was before the US was bankrupted. An increasing number of Americans are looking for housing they can afford. What's a city to do? Which requires less effort, less tax and more revenue? Building/maintaining new freeways to suburbia new "developments" or low cost housing in/near downtown for employed low income working class?

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 08, 2013 06:32 AM (MhA4j)

280 279. Today Commemorate 1871 No telling whether meteor or tinderbox inner city construction or both. wiki: The Peshtigo Fire was a forest fire that took place on October 8, 1871 in Peshtigo, Wisconsin. It was a firestorm that caused the most deaths by fire in United States history, with reported deaths of around 1,500 people, or possibly as many as 2,500. Occurring on the same day as the more famous Great Chicago Fire, the Peshtigo Fire has been largely forgotten. On the same day as the Peshtigo and Chicago fires the cities of Holland and Manistee, Michigan, across Lake Michigan, also burned, and the same fate befell Port Huron at the southern end of Lake Huron. Global Firestorm The material ejected from the meteor impact through the hole in the atmosphere will re-enter all over the globe and heat up from the friction with the atmosphere. The chunks of material will be hot enough to produce a lot of infrared light. The heat from the glowing material will start fires around the globe. Global fires will put about 7 Ã— 1010 tons of soot into the air. This would "aggravate environmental stresses associated with the ... impact." http://tinyurl.com/q95s848 /pfft:/ Calfee, Mica (2003-02). "Was It A Cow Or A Meteorite?". Meteorite Magazine 9 (1). Scientists with expertise in the area dispute that meteorites can ignite a fire; meteorites are cold to the touch when they reach the Earth's surface.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 08, 2013 07:04 AM (MhA4j)

281 From the Chicago based website SecondCityCop: "Get this, FOX News reported that Obama was paying out of pocket to keep the Muslim Cultural Museum open. Why hasn't the liberal media reported on this?" Remember all of those stories about different groups wanting to donate to keep the White House tours going and Carney saying it was illegal for the gov't to accept donations that were earmarked for specific things? Hmmmmmm.........

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at October 08, 2013 07:08 AM (1M/xn)

282 Gummint blamimng OCare crash on heavy traffic. Figures the Administration that thinks there are 57 states in the Union doesn't know its population....

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 08, 2013 07:13 AM (qvify)

283 The web operations for Obama's Presidential election campaigns - the voter database, the iPhone app for volunteers campaigning on the ground, all of it - are universally praised, almost held in reverence. Quite a contrast, eh?

Posted by: anonymous irishman at October 08, 2013 07:51 AM (DJgfL)

284 Pretty soon we will get assigned times to visit the website. How about odd/even days? Just like Jimmy Carter and his gas crisis.

The feds ruin everything they touch.

Posted by: PJ at October 08, 2013 08:24 AM (ZWaLo)

285 How can the team which had the most sophisticated and effective GOTV program fail so badly at putting together the online ACA component. Obama and the DNC had to have known some really smart IT guys to win in 2012, couldn't they have gotten the same team or references even?

Posted by: AndrewL at October 08, 2013 08:51 AM (rsPKs)

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