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— Gabriel Malor

Happy Monday.

Obama's Education Secretary Arne Duncan had comments on Common Core teaching standards this weekend, including, on the one hand, that the biggest threat to Common Core is "we lose the hearts and minds of those in the middle" and, on the other, "It's fascinating to me that some of the pushback is coming from, sort of, white suburban moms whoÂ—all of a suddenÂ—their child isn't as brilliant as they thought they were and their school isn't quite as good as they thought they were." Self-awareness FAIL, jackwad.

Sen. Claire McCaskill says Clinton won't even have a primary challenger in 2016. I'm sure McCaskill's colleague, Sen. Heap Big Wampum, disagrees.

In healthcare news, one insurer has dropped thousands of doctors from its network, leaving seniors, especially, wondering whether they'll get to keep their doctors even if they get to keep their plans.

National Journal's Josh Kraushaar thinks that if Obama can't figure his shit out soon, even Democrats will be calling for Obamacare repeal before Obama's term is done.

And the Cheney sisters are having their first public spat over marriage. The most recent polling in the Wyoming senate race found Sen. Enzi up 52 points over challenger Liz Cheney.

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Posted by: Boone at November 18, 2013 02:50 AM (tIyK2)

2 Just got my 2014 health bennies letter from my employer. Not only do I get to pay more, but my deductible is going up and they're switching us to a different company...I'm not even sure my doctors participate in. Yay for Obamacare!!!

Posted by: DangerGirl at November 18, 2013 02:52 AM (euACX)

3 Good Morning Morons. Today is Monday, November 18, 2013. Had a nice roadie but it is good to be back, especially for my "dieting plans". All I did while visiting family in GA was eat. So on to the NEWS!

On this day in 1883 Standard Time was put into use in the United States. Prior to that all the railroads (and local people) used local railroad time. This led to a lot of inconsistencies. Later on we put in the fraudulent Daylight Savings Time, which saves nothing.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:53 AM (FTQyq)

4 Thunderstorms and tornadoes sweep through the Midwest. And now it is heading for the Northeast. Let's be careful out there Morons.

http://tinyurl.com/o2ozo8x

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:53 AM (FTQyq)

5 Liz Cheney called Obama a liar yesterday.

http://tinyurl.com/p6rccrn

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:53 AM (FTQyq)

6 A disappearing piece of American history, the drive-in is about to become all gone. Here a drive-in in a small GA town is trying to figure out how to convert to digital at a cost of $80K and still stay in business. Hell, I don't see how small theaters like the one we have here stay afloat with that kind of shit. And the movie business blames TV for their woes?

http://tinyurl.com/m2nu84b

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:54 AM (FTQyq)

7 2 killed and 20 injured in a CO poisoning incident at a CO mine. Usually when something like this happens you find that a serious safety violation occurred. And when you investigate that you find that a culture of disregard is present and that is a problem of management neglect.

http://tinyurl.com/mf4632g

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:54 AM (FTQyq)

8 Here is why you never buy a home in a neighborhood with a HOA. A man is fined $5,000 for planting two trees. (The fact that he is a vet is really irreverent)

It is also amazing that HOAs now have fining authority just like they have become a civic government.

http://tinyurl.com/lhkpy88

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:54 AM (FTQyq)

9 25 acres sinkhole in LA is growing. Glad I don't live there.

http://tinyurl.com/l8bz8w2

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:54 AM (FTQyq)

10 Ever wonder why we have these incidents where our allied troops shoot our soldiers? Could this be a reason, we hire terrorists to work on the bases?

http://tinyurl.com/mn5ra85

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:55 AM (FTQyq)

11 And speaking of Shitastan, Musharaf is to be tried for treason. Hey, we'll trade you an Obama for your Musharaf.

http://tinyurl.com/lyqc6t5

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:55 AM (FTQyq)

12 New trend (that's not so new), the "knock out game" where gangs or singular black hoodlums run up behind unsuspecting people (usually white) and sucker punch them in the back of the head. Some people have died from this shit. Any hate crime prosecutions? Of course not, it's all a game. And here's one reason why it is thriving.

In September, a 13-year-old boy was sentenced to 18 months of confinement for the beating death of a 51-year-old man in upstate New York.

The hoodlum thug got 18 months for killing someone. Where's the Trevon outrage here? The same type of shit is going on with the flash mobs all over the US robbing stores and attacking people in malls and parks.

http://tinyurl.com/qbktxex

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:55 AM (FTQyq)

13 Alec Baldwin goes on another rant. He's taking his ball and going home. Phoey on all you fans he says. I say good riddance; don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. He has been a washed up has-been for a long time.'

http://tinyurl.com/laqs2nm

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:55 AM (FTQyq)

14 I have often wondered about those football players that play with dreadlocks hanging 12 inches below their helmets. Saw that a lot in the GA-Auburn game Saturday (damn good game too). Here we see what can happen.

http://tinyurl.com/mm6rhqc

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:56 AM (FTQyq)

15 Paul Ryan stumping in Iowa. Looks like he will run in 2016. Sorry Paul, you have jumped on the amnesty bus.

http://tinyurl.com/loanrtu

And yes, he wants Republicans to pander to inner cities and amnesty. Democrat lite, less taste, less filling, less votes you little "m" moron. He has RNC leadership syndrome.

http://tinyurl.com/mgtmdjb

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:56 AM (FTQyq)

16 Russians building GPS monitoring stations jammed packed with spying equipment in the US? "Not a problem" says the Obama State Department. The CIA begs to differ. I smell another CIA boss going under the bus with all those generals. (link to NYT)

http://tinyurl.com/n95ks96

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:56 AM (FTQyq)

17 DC Commissioner fired after criticizing the Obamacide "fix" (that isn't a fix).

http://tinyurl.com/q6ckrbu

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:57 AM (FTQyq)

18 Time for some companies to sue under the 14th amendment. And they have a good case.

The Obama administration is giving wind power producers a pass by not going after them for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of federally protected birds and bats.

But the feds have gone after fossil fuel and other companies that have killed these animals.

http://tinyurl.com/lh38wyz

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:57 AM (FTQyq)

19 Racist cops force blacks to act like monkeys and make fun of them. Alabama? Mississippi? South Carolina?

No; Grosse Point, MI. But everybody knows all the racism is in the South; just ask your TV.

http://tinyurl.com/lsjmvya

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:57 AM (FTQyq)

20 U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan insisted that Â“white suburban momsÂ” are to blame for the unrelenting opposition to Common Core standards.

Idiot. How about this; the federal government has zero authority in local school systems. That is none at all. Want to blame someone; blame those old white males who wrote the Constitution.

http://tinyurl.com/knlo48w

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:58 AM (FTQyq)

21 "Historically Black" college cancels health insurance for students due to the high cost of Obamacide Insurance. I'm sure none of those black administrators voted for Obama <sarc>.

And what's with this "historically black" shit? Can we have a "historically white" college with all white students and faculty without Eric the Criminal moving in with a hoard of EEOC lawyers? Hell no. But I hope they like their shit sandwich. Yum yum; eat'm up guys.

http://tinyurl.com/mny4d7u

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:58 AM (FTQyq)

22 Speaking of yum yum eat'm up; liberal idiot Matt Damon forced to eat his shoes.

http://tinyurl.com/kr76cj9

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:58 AM (FTQyq)

23 I've never been first yet.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at November 18, 2013 02:58 AM (BcCwi)

24 Democrats admit they knew Obama was lying about "keeping your plan". Hell it was plainly written in the plan. All you had to do was defy scrunt Pelosi and read the damn bill.

http://tinyurl.com/lgsf3mr

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:59 AM (FTQyq)

25 PA mayor sides with Bloomingidiot on gun grabbing. Gets the boot in last election. Of course the gungrabbing idiots will blame something else.

http://tinyurl.com/meeasft

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:59 AM (FTQyq)

26 WI Special prosecutor who works for the Democrats is targeting conservative groups who supported Scott Walker in the recall election (which was financed by the unions). This kind of corruption is not surprising, but the fact he was able to get a subpoena for this shit is. It means the judges there are also corrupt. Can these groups go to the federal courts for redress? Don't make me laugh, they work for unindicted criminal Holder.

http://tinyurl.com/pumxo3s

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 02:59 AM (FTQyq)

27 The State discusses the latest on Nancy Boy's primary. He now has four opponents and the support of The Fat Man who ate NJ, who The State likes.

http://tinyurl.com/k54spwz

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:00 AM (FTQyq)

28 DAY 378 1,083 to go (1,154 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, McAuliffe's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2013 03:00 AM (olDqf)

29 The Senate Military Rape bill is a POS and unfortunately it will probably pass. Hopefully the House will kill it.

http://tinyurl.com/kzfet5v

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:00 AM (FTQyq)

30 Read this exchange between a Republican representative and Christine Romer during the debate over the original Obamacide bill in 2009. She is either stupid or a liar or both. If this had been a Bush roll-out this exchange would be getting 24/7 airtime on the networks for months.

http://tinyurl.com/kb4nrey

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:00 AM (FTQyq)

31 A good article by Heritage that summarizes the overall impact on Americans for Obamacide (as far as health insurance goes).

http://tinyurl.com/qxn7tgv

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:01 AM (FTQyq)

32 21 Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 06:58 AM (FTQyq) I suppose if you go back far enough, say a few million years, we're all "historically black."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2013 03:01 AM (olDqf)

33 Kindle Daily Deals

http://tinyurl.com/mgg8yar

That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:01 AM (FTQyq)

34 The Fat Man That Ate New Jersey. Genius, Vic!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2013 03:01 AM (olDqf)

35 2 Just got my 2014 health bennies letter from my employer. Not only do I get to pay more, but my deductible is going up and they're switching us to a different company...I'm not even sure my doctors participate in.

Yay for Obamacare!!!

Posted by: DangerGirl at November 18, 2013 06:52 AM (euACX)

That is exactly what happened to mine. And the company that they switched me to is one that was previously dropped because it was so shitty the doctors in my area quit accepting it.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:03 AM (FTQyq)

36 34 Genius, Vic!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2013 07:01 AM (olDqf)

I came up with that one while me and my older brother were talking politics Saturday night (and watching the GA-Auburn game)

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:06 AM (FTQyq)

37 A disappearing piece of American history, the drive-in is about to become all gone. Here a drive-in in a small GA town is trying to figure out how to convert to digital at a cost of $80K and still stay in business. Hell, I don't see how small theaters like the one we have here stay afloat with that kind of shit. And the movie business blames TV for their woes? http://tinyurl.com/m2nu84b Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 06:54 AM (FTQyq) Other than teenagers wanting to make out, who wants to sit in their car watching a movie? That's the real problem.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 18, 2013 03:09 AM (nj9sX)

38 Did we have any more spurious banning while I was gone?

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:09 AM (FTQyq)

39 Idiot. How about this; the federal government has zero authority in local school systems. That is none at all. Want to blame someone; blame those old white males who wrote the Constitution. http://tinyurl.com/knlo48w Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 06:58 AM (FTQyq) The illusion of local control of schools is just that: an illusion. As soon as any governing body got a checkbook, they started making rules. It's unfortunate, but schools cannot survive on local revenues alone.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 18, 2013 03:11 AM (nj9sX)

40 37 Other than teenagers wanting to make out, who wants to sit in their car watching a movie? That's the real problem.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 18, 2013 07:09 AM (nj9sX)

I used to like the drive-ins because you could smoke and drink beer in your car. Bring your own eats and do what ever you wanted.

We had a drive-in here when I first moved here but it was all porno.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:11 AM (FTQyq)

41 39 The illusion of local control of schools is just that: an illusion. As soon as any governing body got a checkbook, they started making rules. It's unfortunate, but schools cannot survive on local revenues alone.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 18, 2013 07:11 AM (nj9sX)

They could if they did not have to toe the line for all the federal rules for every program that comes down the pike. And the reason they have to toe the line is because they take the federal money.

Its catch 22

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:12 AM (FTQyq)

42 BTW, the private school I sent my daughter to did very well w/o federal money, State money, or any money other than tuition. And they were able to teach real school subjects.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:13 AM (FTQyq)

43 12 Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 06:55 AM (FTQyq) There is most definitely a race war happening in this country, but you'd never know it by reading the papers. And the incidents involving youths of unknown racial background attacking Hassidic Jews in NYC is going way up. And with Bill deBlasio as our new mayor, I expect a lot more.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2013 03:13 AM (olDqf)

44 Aint it just like an elitist progtard like Arne Duncan to obsess on skin color. Common Core must go.

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at November 18, 2013 03:15 AM (XvrTA)

45 43 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2013 07:13 AM (olDqf)

You notice the Fox article I linked made zero mention of the fact that this is black yoots attacking whites. I had to go all over the net to find an article to confirm that suspicion.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:15 AM (FTQyq)

46 I remember watching Star Wars, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, and The Warriors at the Drive In. My Dad took me and my friend. I don't believe we stayed through The Warriors. I was like 9 or something. Dad thought we were a little to young to watch it ( I think it was the female gang, i.e. dykes, that was the last straw). It was a strange line up of movies but New Castle PA was a strange town.

Posted by: puddleglum at November 18, 2013 03:17 AM (K93kM)

47 Vic has an older brother. Ponder that.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 18, 2013 03:18 AM (wJNLu)

48 A disappearing piece of American history, the drive-in is about to become all gone. Here a drive-in in a small GA town is trying to figure out how to convert to digital at a cost of $80K and still stay in business. Hell, I don't see how small theaters like the one we have here stay afloat with that kind of shit. And the movie business blames TV for their woes?

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 06:54 AM

To hell with it, I say. Digital? *spit* They have no chance of competing anymore with the new fangled (aka unwatchable) stuff. Go all out and make it a thing. Stick with celluloid and screen the great stuff nobody shows anymore. Make it a nostalgia fest. Work the drive in as an retro trip. If that won't work, then might as well spare the expense of a pointless changeover.

Posted by: otho at November 18, 2013 03:19 AM (9gNQd)

49 However you feel about drive-ins, the linked article is right. What few are left, mostly in small town America, will disappear as all the old analog movies are gone.

You can't show all old "reruns" forever.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:19 AM (FTQyq)

50 "...but schools cannot survive on local revenues alone." Not in their current model. Where we're at, the schools spend more on athletics than they do on scholastics. The ratio of expenditures in the budget between administrative/overhead functions and teacher salaries is more than 1:1 too. It's a self perpetuating bureaucracy funded by property taxes and State/Federal assistance (tax money). Oh and I would add too that the teachers who really do care about teaching kids are always passed up for advancement by the one's who tote the party barge and lift the party bale. We've put 4 kids through the school system here. My granddaughter is gonna be home schooled if I can help it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 18, 2013 03:20 AM (60Vyp)

51 I used to like the drive-ins because you could smoke and drink beer in your car. Bring your own eats and do what ever you wanted.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 07:11 AM

Bingo. Smoking and drinking and your right to behave like a jackass in your your own car.

Posted by: otho at November 18, 2013 03:22 AM (9gNQd)

52 I will continue to bite Obamacare's ass this week.

Posted by: Reality at November 18, 2013 03:22 AM (Tb01R)

53 50 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 18, 2013 07:20 AM (60Vyp)

I had to put my daughter back in shitty public schools at the 8th grade because the private school didn't go any higher than that. I asked them why they didn't have classes up through HS level and the response was they couldn't get enough parents.

Almost all the parents in this area were more interested in their children playing football or being a cheerleader than they were in education.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:23 AM (FTQyq)

54 I'm concerned about the guy who got his hair pulled out in the football game. Either it's real hair and it hurt like heck, or it's fake extensions, and it's expensive as heck.

Either way, he's a sad sad panda this morning.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 18, 2013 03:24 AM (BeSEI)

55 51 Bingo. Smoking and drinking and your right to behave like a jackass in your your own car.

Posted by: otho at November 18, 2013 07:22 AM (9gNQd)

I didn't consider that behaving like a jack-ass. That is unless you sat there and drank one beer after another through a 2 hour movie and got drunk and drove home. I didn't do that.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:25 AM (FTQyq)

56
Other than teenagers wanting to make out, who wants to sit in their car watching a movie? That's the real problem.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 18, 2013 07:09 AM (nj9sX)

People who want an easier time getting snacks in for their kids? Being able to take a whole family to see two shows on the cost of a drive-in used to be great fun for the kids. Oh well.

Posted by: tunakermit at November 18, 2013 03:26 AM (tr49D)

57 what's with all those words above the comments? oh! Gabe, not Andy. I see.

Morning, all. Hi, Vic. Refreshed from your trip?

Posted by: mindful webworker - 2¢ worth every time at November 18, 2013 03:26 AM (7KxSm)

58 5 "Liz Cheney called Obama a liar yesterday." I predict she is going to lose the Wyoming black vote decisively.

Posted by: jwest at November 18, 2013 03:26 AM (u2a4R)

59 The small drive-in in VA converted to digital, its about an hour from my house -- but the kids love to go.

Posted by: Jean at November 18, 2013 03:27 AM (CMlD4)

60 57 Morning, all. Hi, Vic. Refreshed from your trip? Posted by: mindful webworker - 2Ã¯Â¿Â½ worth every time at November 18, 2013 07:26 AM (7KxSm

Oh yeah, ready for another week of AOS. That is except I have doctor's appointments early in the morning on both Wed and Thu.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:27 AM (FTQyq)

61 51 -

I think the part you guys are missing is the underaged aspect of it. Back when drive-ins were popular, adults could smoke and drink beer... and fornicate indoors.

The kids could not.

So... off to the drive-in!

Posted by: BurtTC at November 18, 2013 03:27 AM (BeSEI)

62 Liz Cheney was outstanding on FNS yesterday, handling all of fuzznuts Wallace's questions, which he always amps up for conservatives, easily. Fuck RINO Enzi.

Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone at November 18, 2013 03:28 AM (rMxV1)

63 Today's celebrity birthdays: Louis Daguerre (early images) W. S. Gilbert (wrote about English asphalt, or something) Carl Vinson (there's a big ship named after him) George Gallup (skewed) Johnny Mercer (4x Oscars) RADM Alan B. Shepard Jr. (MR-3, Apollo 14) Linda Evans (how green was her valley?) Jameson Parker (a Simon bro) Delroy Lindo (took out Yahoo) Kevin Nealon (60 today) David Adkins (a.k.a. Sinbad) Elizabeth Perkins (where?) Kim Wilde (still hangin' on?) Megyn Kelly (mother of 3 ) Denny Hamlin (finally got one last night)

Posted by: Gran at November 18, 2013 03:28 AM (mw0FO)

64 Drive-ins are a victim of America's success. Before home air conditioning became ubiquitous, a drive-in got you out of your stuffy, sweaty house. Kids played in the dirt next to the car, teens tried to find some privacy, and adults got to relax and watch a movie. Everybody had a reason to go, and something to enjoy. Like ice chests, and the guy who delivered the ice, drive-ins were a temporary solution. Still, I wonder if a drive-in next to a minor league baseball stadium could succeed. Cooperative marketing, cross promotions ... now that might work, in the right place.

Posted by: Josef K. at November 18, 2013 03:29 AM (tOkJB)

65 It's unfortunate, but schools cannot survive on local revenues alone. Posted by: Zombie John Gotti

Bless your heart, now put your knuckle on the edge of the desk.

Posted by: Sister Anne Marie O'Reilly at November 18, 2013 03:30 AM (CMlD4)

66 I didn't consider that behaving like a jack-ass. That is unless you sat there and drank one beer after another through a 2 hour movie and got drunk and drove home. I didn't do that.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 07:25 AM

No, not that. But, you could talk smack about the movie, run your own commentary, swear, jeer or cheer, whatever... stuff that would be intrusive and rude in the close confines of a theatre.

Posted by: otho at November 18, 2013 03:31 AM (9gNQd)

67 I think the part you guys are missing is the underaged aspect of it. Back when drive-ins were popular, adults could smoke and drink beer... and fornicate indoors.

The kids could not.

So... off to the drive-in!

Posted by: BurtTC at November 18, 2013 07:27 AM (BeSEI)

I don't think that made a bit of difference. What has actually killed the drive in (both normal and porno) is the advent of first video tape movies, then DVD.

Then the adults did their smoking and drinking at home. And you didn't have to worry about how much beer you drank.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:31 AM (FTQyq)

>>And the incidents involving youths of unknown racial background attacking Hassidic Jews in NYC is going way up.

And with Bill deBlasio as our new mayor, I expect a lot more.

When I used to drive trucks, I would drive into NYC a couple of times a week. Pretty much hit Brooklyn at least once a week. For a few weeks late 1999 I started seeing the Hassidic Jews walking around with baseball bats and it was weird. Someone told me they were getting tired of getting the crap beat out of them. Maybe they need to do it again.

Posted by: Registered Voter at November 18, 2013 03:32 AM (Hdbf3)

69 1 First Posted by: Boone at November 18, 2013 06:50 AM (tIyK2) Glad you noted you were first. The "1" was not enough clue. And now, like the rest of us who have been there, you realize what a hollow, meaningless achievement it really is. Still, more exciting than a bowl of Obamakaboom.

Posted by: mindful webworker - 2¢ worth every time at November 18, 2013 03:33 AM (AMsS5)

70 The Bush's are idiots for sending their any of their kids to public schools.
Damon is an ass and a hypocrite but he is right to advocate for better public schools AND send his kids to privates.

How the hell is it inconsistent to point out publics are failing and send your kids elsewhere?

Posted by: Typo Dynamofo at November 18, 2013 03:35 AM (FtCW+)

71 I had to put my daughter back in shitty public schools at the 8th grade because the private school didn't go any higher than that.

I distinctly remember some all-girl high schools in Charleston. If you know anyone who sent their daughter there in 1988-89, apologize for me.

Posted by: Sister Anne Marie O'Reilly at November 18, 2013 03:35 AM (CMlD4)

72 Other than teenagers wanting to make out, who wants to sit in their car watching a movie? That's the real problem. Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 18, 2013 07:09 AM

It was a little more fun in the cars that were state-of-the-art when I was a yoot. A '50 Chevy had one whole hell of a lot more relaxation space than a new Chevy Cruze. And if your 'rents had a station wagon -- mine didn't but one my friends' did -- you were good to go.

Everything changes....

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 18, 2013 03:35 AM (kaGpp)

73 71 I distinctly remember some all-girl high schools in Charleston. If you know anyone who sent their daughter there in 1988-89, apologize for me.

Posted by: Sister Anne Marie O'Reilly at November 18, 2013 07:35 AM (CMlD4)

Oh, there were all girl private schools all over the South. Unfortunately they were expensive as hell and with boarding they were expensive as a private college.

Even though both wifey and I had good paying jobs we could not afford any of them.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:37 AM (FTQyq)

74 Up 53 points in a poll from a super PAC that's been running ads against her. Not really an unimpeachable source.

Posted by: @johntant at November 18, 2013 03:38 AM (Sk+/h)

75 I'm glad to hear Enzi is crushing Liz Cheney. He is a solid conservative and it's a waste of $$ and energy for her to challenge him. Completely meaningless display of ego on her part.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 18, 2013 03:39 AM (KL49F)

76 "Self-awareness FAIL" Well put, Gabe. But, one only has to be more aware than the target audience, to whom such contrary catchphrases are dogma.

Posted by: mindful webworker - 2¢ worth every time at November 18, 2013 03:40 AM (izPgb)

77 Here's the Chicago Tribune's Jack Kass' latest article... it's darn good:

http://tinyurl.com/m3m57gp

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 18, 2013 03:40 AM (KL49F)

78 "All" the drive-ins in my area (three) have converted to digital. It isn't just the new releases; no one wants to ship real film anymore. No distribution network.

But the biggest, closest and most successful of them lost its screen to a tornado last night. History has shown this is often the end. I don't know how the insurance works (our new national motto).

Another thing that has hurt drive-ins is the number of newer cars that can't be turned on without their headlights coming on. And you need the power on, to use the FM audio feed, since those cute speaker-stalks (and the Electric In-A-Car Heater) are long gone. Kids used to run to the concession stand, and bail into those stalks at full speed, a cause of much hilarity.

The biggest thing, though, is light pollution. One strip-mall next door, and you can't see the movie. And then, the real-estate valuation comes into play.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 18, 2013 03:42 AM (xq1UY)

79 4 Thunderstorms and tornadoes sweep through the Midwest. And now it is heading for the Northeast. Let's be careful out there Morons. Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 06:53 AM (FTQyq) They came through here during the night. Yesterday afternoon I wrote about how I spent the whole weekend doing yard work and was finally finished for the year: http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=345046#c21434664 This morning it looks like my neighbor's tree exploded. Giant face-sized leaves all over the place.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2013 03:42 AM (sdi6R)

80 Inre the drive ins, the theaters don't have a choice. Studios are no longer releasing their movies on film. If they don't go digital, they die. The shit of it is they are financing the changeover for the big theater chains, but they won't do the same for the smaller operators. That, combined with the profit demands of the studios (they take 90%+ of the first weeks gate) is driving small theaters out of business. Love those liberals looking out for the small businesses.

Posted by: @johntant at November 18, 2013 03:43 AM (Sk+/h)

81 Folks, its warm outside this morning so I have no excuse for not getting in my morning walk. bbl

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 03:43 AM (FTQyq)

82 "On this day in 1883 Standard Time was put into use in the United States." Repeal Standard Time! Return to Natural time! (my AoS rants on ST. & DST, from fallback weekend, collected & ammended: mindfulwebworks.com/radical/repeal-daylight-savings-time-tyranny )

Posted by: mindful webworker - 2¢ worth every time at November 18, 2013 03:44 AM (izPgb)

83 However you feel about drive-ins, the linked article is right. What few are left, mostly in small town America, will disappear as all the old analog movies are gone.

You can't show all old "reruns" forever.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 07:19 AM

Are they having to operate 7 nights a week? What's the population like? With a large enough punters base, it's surprising how many will show up to catch something on the big screen that they wouldn't normally get a chance to. If it's a couple of great flicks, for one night only, it can pack out. Prepare the schedule and keep it changing... no second shots, they'll come to see the once in a blue moon screening. Go specialist. That sort of thing packs out in other places, but big city joints, I guess. Masybe they're looking down the barrel there. Can't imagine how they can compete these days.

Posted by: otho at November 18, 2013 03:45 AM (9gNQd)

84 62 Liz Cheney was outstanding on FNS yesterday, handling all of fuzznuts Wallace's questions, which he always amps up for conservatives, easily. Fuck RINO Enzi. Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone at November 18, 2013 07:28 AM (rMxV1) Say what you will about Liz Cheney, but unscripted and off the cuff she will kick anyone's ass in a debate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2013 03:46 AM (olDqf)

85 When I was growing up there was a movie that played every year in the theaters in Tucson. "Closed on Christmas Eve".

Odd thing though, I never saw it...

Posted by: HH at November 18, 2013 03:50 AM (XXwdv)

86 "...the drive-in is about to become all gone." Down in Tulsa, the venerable Admiral Twin drive-in's old screens burned to the ground. The natural presumption would be, it's all over for the big twin screens. Apparently, a lot of folks remember the good ol days at the drive in. There was amazing support for them to rebuild, which they have done. It will be there for a while.

Posted by: mindful webworker - 2¢ worth every time at November 18, 2013 03:51 AM (uHgI5)

87 Sad news... Harriet Baldwin lost her husband Jeff early this morning. Please keep her in your thoughts & prayers.

Posted by: Gran at November 18, 2013 03:51 AM (mw0FO)

88 68 Posted by: Registered Voter at November 18, 2013 07:32 AM (Hdbf3) Time was there used to be a thing called the JDL - the Jewish Defense League. Back in the bad old days of the 60's through the early 80's when crime was rampant, they took care of their own in places like Crown Heights and Williamsburg. There was an uneasy peace between blacks and Jews until the Crown Heights riots; thank you Sharpton and Dinkins. And then Meir Kahane was murdered by an Islamo-nazi in 1990 which was perhaps the first acknowledged incident that directly led to 9/11/01. I hope the JDL comes back with a vengeance. I fell bad for the majority of black people who are just as terrorized by the thugs and the race-hustlers as the rest of us are, and maybe more because they are forced to live with them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2013 03:52 AM (olDqf)

89 But Mary says Liz is "on the wrong side of history"! This has to be a terrific compliment to anyone who remembers Buckley. Wm F, not Lord Buckley.

Wrong side of history is a screaming-moonbat tell if I ever heard one. They're entitled to their own history? A short one, as things turn out.

Other commenters "hope that Liz evolves." Stand right there and watch me evolve. Now there's an understanding of history that makes Intelligent Design look, well, intelligent, by comparison. To evolve, you have to reproduce. Also, die.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 18, 2013 03:53 AM (xq1UY)

90 I may have misspoke by calling Enzi a RINO, since he's generally as conservative as you would expect Wyoming to produce. However he's 100% wrong on a dogshit Internet sales tax, and I think facing a primary challenge keeps those cocksuckers from going squishy.

Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone at November 18, 2013 03:53 AM (rMxV1)

91 @85 In my parts, the big hit movie of the fall is the romantic comedy "See You In The Spring."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 18, 2013 03:55 AM (xq1UY)

92 Morning! Thanks for the news, Vic.

and J.J. 1,083 to go (1,154 to Inauguration Day 2017) - this number never seems to get any smaller!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 18, 2013 03:55 AM (b/lt+)

93 "25 acres sinkhole in LA is growing." Oh, the Louisiana sinkhole. Yeah. I thought you meant L. A. :/

Posted by: mindful webworker - 2¢ worth every time at November 18, 2013 03:56 AM (uHgI5)

The Drive In is not yet dead. At least in the outskirts of NW Houston they're not. Converted cow pasture has 2 screens and center snack bar which stays packed throughout the evening (reasonable prices, good quality and sizes, you know - value).

Each screen shows 2 movies a night, usually one of them is first run, paired like fine wine to an entree. Saw the newest Thor opening weekend there paired with Gravity. A mere $6 per person.

Some nights they go retro and will show old blockbusters for $20 a car load.

The place is packed every night it is open. They have DLP screens. If you want to get the center spots in the first 4 rows, better get in line at least 30 minutes before the gates open.

It's a great place for a date night. The only downside is getting my dates (women of a certain age) up and into the bed of my F-150 with anything approaching style and dignity. But once they've settled into the plush, padded, pillow-strewn and verry comfy bed (like a sultan's tent), we're golden.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 18, 2013 03:58 AM (BAS5M)

95 I like Liz Cheney but I'm getting really tired of family dynasties in politics. We seem to be regressing to medieval times.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2013 03:58 AM (sdi6R)

96 As a "white suburban bitch" well, I am in a state who wants to ban zeroes on papers and gives tests twice! WTF? How is that teaching a kid anything other than to be a lazy ass? I took a zero once in hs because I could not seem to wrap my head around Shakespeare. I fucking deserved that because I wimped out.
It's just unfathomable that the SOE believes "the middle' will get left behind. What the hell do you think CC does, asshole? When they get out in the real world those kids you attempted to "pick up" are already going to be behind because they learn rote regurgitating to pass a fucking test for every class. UFB.
In my world, I am Donald Trump that theis SFB is fired.

Posted by: DefendUSA at November 18, 2013 03:58 AM (nAHMK)

97 #89 I love when shitheads use that "evolve" nonsense as if there's only one acceptable viewpoint. But they're the tolerant ones.

Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone at November 18, 2013 03:59 AM (rMxV1)

98 "Take hearts my friends" I do not know the story behind this song but I think it was written by the man who sings it. Fernando Ortega, and this version has lovely pictures to go along with it: http://tinyurl.com/kgvxaxn Don't let the lesser things distract from the greater thing. Praise God anyway. The more you praise God and worship, the more you'll feel like praising and worshipping. You don't have to feel up or happy to praise God. God's presence is thankfully not dependent on our feelings. :^) And keep on praying!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2013 03:59 AM (23Kgq)

99 NASA is planning to launch the MAVEN spacecraft at 1:28 pm EST this afternoon. There will be live coverage on NASA TV. MAVEN is designed to study the Martian atmosphere. Here's an article about the mission: http://tinyurl.com/lfagjh2 Unfortunately there are storms over the Florida panhandle moving east which could possibly affect the launch.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2013 04:01 AM (sdi6R)

100 89 FWIW : http://takimag.com/article/happy_to_be_on_the_wrong_side_of_history_jim_goad#axzz2l0AHC8Fh

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 18, 2013 04:01 AM (aDwsi)

101 67 -

Around these parts, and in the time period when the drive-ins started to go away, they were all about the underaged clientele. Adults stayed away in droves (pun intended).

So you're right, when tapes and dvds became available, there were fewer people flocking to drive-ins, but even more than that, they didn't have to!

More and more, parents will let their teenage spawn rut like animals, in the comfort of their own home. It's "safer" that way, and since you can't stop them...

Posted by: BurtTC at November 18, 2013 04:02 AM (BeSEI)

102 Other than teenagers wanting to make out, who wants to sit in their car watching a movie? That's the real problem. Posted by: Zombie John Gotti Bucket seats killed the drive-in.

Posted by: mindful webworker - 2¢ worth every time at November 18, 2013 04:03 AM (cK3Ih)

103 W S Gilbert!

"As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed
who never would be missed!
........
that Nisi Prius nuisance, who just now is rather rife,
The Judicial humorist I've got him on the list!
All funny fellows, comic men, and clowns of private life
They'd none of 'em be missed they'd none of 'em be missed!
And apologetic statesmen of a compromising kind,
Such as what d'ye call him Thing-'em- bob,
and likewise never mind,
And 'St 'st 'st and What's-his- name,
and also You -know - who
The task of filling up the blanks I'd rather leave to you.
But it really doesn't matter whom you put upon the list,
For they'd none of 'em be missed
they'd none of 'em be missed! "

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at November 18, 2013 04:04 AM (P/gm7)

104 I may have misspoke by calling Enzi a RINO, since he's generally as conservative as you would expect Wyoming to produce. However he's 100% wrong on a dogshit Internet sales tax, and I think facing a primary challenge keeps those cocksuckers from going squishy. --------------- I don't know about RINO, but I do know Enzi hasn't been the kind of guy to call out the Left. Cheney, on the other hand, is a knife fighter. I think we have too much go-along-get-along comity from the main Senate Republicans caucus.

Posted by: @johntant at November 18, 2013 04:06 AM (eytER)

105 @100 Whoa - I think the blog has stretch marks now.

Posted by: Gran at November 18, 2013 04:08 AM (mw0FO)

106

NASA is planning to launch the MAVEN spacecraft at 1:28 pm EST this afternoon. There will be live coverage on NASA TV.

Clearly NASA has lost sight of their primary mission...muslim outreach. How will Akmed the goat fucking murderer learn to love us if NASA wastes time on trivial things like space exploration.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at November 18, 2013 04:09 AM (rXcBX)

107 Our local drive-in in Ocala won a digital projector from Honda. They were doing a save the drive-ins contest.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at November 18, 2013 04:10 AM (P/gm7)

108 I'm going to need some prayers and a lot of strength. I'm going to quit drinking. I'm tired of waking up feeling like crap and I've come to realize I'm failing at controlling the amount I have. So please pray that I'm successful this time.

Posted by: DangerGirl at November 18, 2013 04:12 AM (jlm/B)

109 104 -

It's hard to keep track of everyone else's Senators, but it sounds like my guy, Roy Blunt. He was elected to the Senate because it was his turn, has made a career out of taking "safe" conservative positions, but when it comes to the Washington feeding frenzy, he's lining up at the trough, right alongside the rest of them.

I'm done with that. I'm not going to be used. Roy is never getting my vote again. I've told him so, but I doubt he cares. He's the right kind of Republican for Missouri. Not very different from the right kind of Democrat like Claire McCaskill.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 18, 2013 04:13 AM (BeSEI)

110 @108 Thoughts & prayers, DG.

Posted by: Gran at November 18, 2013 04:16 AM (mw0FO)

111
47 Vic ~~has an older brother~~ is related to Methuselah. Ponder that.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 18, 2013 07:18 AM (wJNLu)

FIFY

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 18, 2013 04:18 AM (tOkJB)

112 Had to see if I was duplicating Vic with these... The other Benghazi victims - news is leaking out. War News Updates Nov 15 http://bit.ly/1d8TArI Texas A&M law professor says it's time "to repeal and replace [the] Second Amendment" and advocates "redrafting the entire U.S. Constitution." Breitbart Nov 15 http://bit.ly/18HAVvq Holder described 3D printed plastic guns as "an extremely serious problem" and "a very wearisome threat to law enforcement." Said Holder: "We can't have guns in circulation that are not detectable by metal detectors." [Yeah, we know what you're really after, Eric.] Breitbart Nov 16 http://bit.ly/1d8TArI & The latest mindful vidwork, 21 more sec of your precious life could be spent laughing at TFG's soulless face. Fine Print Before you sign on the dotted line, make sure you've checked all the details. Mr. Perfectcrease delivers the big lie. Mr. Carney delivers the rapid legalese. http://mindfulwebworks.com/radical/fine-print

Posted by: mindful webworker - 2¢ worth every time at November 18, 2013 04:18 AM (crLRi)

113 Thank you Gran.

Posted by: DangerGirl at November 18, 2013 04:19 AM (jlm/B)

114 I'm going to need some prayers and a lot of strength. I'm going to quit drinking. I'm tired of waking up feeling like crap and I've come to realize I'm failing at controlling the amount I have. So please pray that I'm successful this time.

--

DangerGirl, you have my prayers. I used to drink too much. Two or 3 glasses of wine a night just to relax. This was 7 days a week, and I knew I shouldn't be doing it. Waking up with a headache and a general feeling of ick just make me realize I needed to cut it out. It took a while, because I kinda craved that relaxation at night, but over the course of a few months, I weened myself away from all that. I usually average about 1 glass of wine a week now, and even then, I wake up feeling bad from a headache. I haven't felt the desire to even have it for a long time. You can do it. Just be patient and kind with yourself.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 18, 2013 04:22 AM (XB5Ak)

115 108 I'm going to need some prayers and a lot of strength. I'm going to quit drinking. I'm tired of waking up feeling like crap and I've come to realize I'm failing at controlling the amount I have. So please pray that I'm successful this time.

Posted by: DangerGirl at November 18, 2013 08:12 AM (jlm/B)

I found that when quitting cigarettes I had to go one day at a time. Every time I got an urge for a cigarette (which was frequent) I would say to myself "I can hold out until tomorrow". When tomorrow came I would repeat that until I had a string of tomorrows.

After a month the urges came less frequent. After 6 months they were few. After a year they were rare. I don't get them at all now.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 04:22 AM (FTQyq)

116 Good Luck, DG.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 18, 2013 04:22 AM (BAS5M)

117 I'm going to need some prayers and a lot of strength. I'm going to quit drinking. I'm tired of waking up feeling like crap and I've come to realize I'm failing at controlling the amount I have. So please pray that I'm successful this time. Posted by: DangerGirl
..........
Good luck! I never make it past one day. I keep telling myself "one of these days", but it never happens. So, I sincerely hope the best for you and will send some prayers.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 18, 2013 04:24 AM (b/lt+)

118 108 I'm going to need some prayers and a lot of ((dangergirl)) prayers & hugs....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 18, 2013 04:27 AM (8JJ6O)

119 Thank you all. I've been trying for thr better part of a year but keep failing. Its to the point where I just need to not have it in the house. I think that will help.

Posted by: DangerGirl at November 18, 2013 04:29 AM (z+Xap)

120 Mary Cheney sums up the Militant Gay Agenda nicely

"this isn't like a disagreement over grazing fees or what to do about Iran. There isn't a lot of gray here. Either You think all families should be treated equally or you don't. Liz's position is to treat my family as second class citizens. That's not a position I can be "lovingly tolerant" towards. "

Looking forward to President Caligula in 2016.

Posted by: noone, really at November 18, 2013 04:31 AM (5ikDv)

121 Thank you all. I've been trying for thr better part of a year but keep failing. Its to the point where I just need to not have it in the house. I think that will help.

--

Keep trying. It took me the better part of the year as well and I wasn't always perfect, trust me. It's a difficult habit to break. I'd first try not having it every day, stretching it to just every other day, then every two days, etc. and drastically cutting back on the amount per day that I did decide to drink. I eventually got over the need. Having it not in the house does help. After you get over that big hump, you won't miss it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 18, 2013 04:33 AM (XB5Ak)

122 I'm all for the anti-incumbent movement, both sides of the aisle, but I'm not happy with carpetbaggers who pretend to be something they are not.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 18, 2013 04:34 AM (tnkSC)

123 So please pray that I'm successful this time. Posted by: DangerGirl Keep your incentive foremost in mind. God strengthen your will.

Posted by: mindful webworker - 2¢ worth every time at November 18, 2013 04:35 AM (LM9t5)

124 So please pray that I'm successful this time. Posted by: DangerGirl Keep your incentive foremost in mind. God strengthen your will.

Posted by: mindful webworker - 2¢ worth every time at November 18, 2013 04:35 AM (LM9t5)

125 Dear DangerGirl- I think that's wonderful that you want to stop drinking and courageous of you to tell us. As a child of a parent with drinking problems I know she tried to self medicate her stress and pain with drinking and it made life with her difficult for uss. If she had stopped her drinking she would have lived more than 59 years, I' bet, and have been able to see her grandchild. Please consider an AA program. There are groups all over the place and they are a great source of spiritual and personal support. I will pray for you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2013 04:36 AM (23Kgq)

126 Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 08:22 AM (FTQyq)

I have never smoked, but they (who?) say that cigarettes are the most difficult to control of all addictions .

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2013 04:37 AM (oJ5Fd)

127 Oh, and Hillary in 2016. What exactly is she going to campaign upon re healthcare? Obamacare is essentially Hillary's proposal in 2008. Remember, she was for the mandate and Barry was against a mandate in the primaries. Mandate won out and Barry signed it. Hillary: "I'll work to fix the broken healthcare system....? Media: "How?" Hillary: "....................."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 18, 2013 04:40 AM (cmmUw)

128 new purp

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2013 04:43 AM (FTQyq)

129 I have never smoked, but they (who?) say that cigarettes are the most difficult to control of all addictions .
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
...............
It's a physical addiction in addition to a mental one. I quit 30 years ago and it was terrible.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 18, 2013 04:44 AM (b/lt+)

130 As a thought experiment, imagine if Arne Duncan instead referred to "black inner-city moms," or for that matter, "black suburban moms." Funny how it's okay for him to (basically gratuitously) reference race if it's referring to middle-class white people.

Posted by: rjm319 at November 18, 2013 04:47 AM (1z1uZ)

131 Is Valerie Jarrett Muslim or is she "just" Iranian born and a person who's in their corner and hence no friend to Israel?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2013 04:47 AM (23Kgq)

132 Yes, that's what she's campaign on. That she worked as Obama's SOS for the good of the country but she disagreed with some the things he said. She will say that she'sbeen thinking of healthcare since Bill was in office and she has what it takes to fix things. The next "savior": for the US. Bah.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2013 04:51 AM (23Kgq)

133 Ugh, I cringe when I think of another Democrat President.

Posted by: DangerGirl at November 18, 2013 04:58 AM (A9hpr)

134 Obama has Obamacare. Hillary has Benghazi. Biden is an idiot. Republicans've got 2016 sewn up! --Hitler in the bunker, just before the other guy says, "but, my fuehrer..." Got your Hillary 2016 poster yet? http://mindfulwebworks.com/radical/hillary-2016-what-difference-does-it-make

Posted by: mindful webworker - 2¢ worth every time at November 18, 2013 05:00 AM (ZX0Je)

135 Mary Cheney and her gf are full of shit. As predicted, expect to be written up the first time you refuse to refer to a gay co workers male sex partner as his wife.

Posted by: Comrade Jesse, not welcoming our socialist overlords at November 18, 2013 05:01 AM (kkbgQ)

136 "Republicans've got 2016 sewn up! " -New Jersey con man? -Scott Walker (amnesty whore) -Paul Ryan (another amnesty whore) -Marco Rubio (The Original amnesty whore) Then, there are the warm-over left overs from primaries past....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 18, 2013 05:04 AM (XoF6L)

137 One problem with giving up your worst vice is, you're immediately confronted with your second worst vice. Eventually, you discover, its vices all the way down....

Posted by: mindful webworker - 2¢ worth every time at November 18, 2013 05:07 AM (ZX0Je)

138 As a "white suburban bitch" well, I am in a state who wants to ban zeroes on papers and gives tests twice! WTF? How is that teaching a kid anything other than to be a lazy ass? I took a zero once in hs because I could not seem to wrap my head around Shakespeare. I fucking deserved that because I wimped out. Posted by: DefendUSA at November 18, 2013 07:58 AM (nAHMK) Before everyone lights me up, I'm not saying I agree with this. There is actually a concept that lends some credibility to this approach. The idea is that, if the material is important enough to be taught in the first place, isn't it important enough for the student to actually learn it? If it isn't that important, why are you teaching it?

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 18, 2013 05:09 AM (nj9sX)

139 137 One problem with giving up your worst vice is, you're immediately confronted with your second worst vice. My second worse vice is either video games or bad reality tv.

Posted by: DangerGirl at November 18, 2013 05:16 AM (LP0Fj)

140 I get the concept, Zombie. However, if the material is important enough to learn the first time why waste time trying to "re-learn" students? Why can't the fact that the course material needs to be learned and understood be impressed enough on the student so as to not need the second helping? Ultimately it's about time. There's a set amount of material to cover within a given school year and you'll waste a lot of it, and throw the student's progression behind, if you're spending parts of it re-hashing things that they should have picked up on the first time. I know when in school that the worst thing I could do was bring home disappointing news from school. It simply could not be done. I think that's the problem today in that parents are as engaged or interested in how their spawn are doing in school. Keep 'em quiet, out of the way, and, not costing me too much money. School?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 18, 2013 05:20 AM (FtDQC)

141 I know when in school that the worst thing I could do was bring home disappointing news from school. It simply could not be done. I think that's the problem today in that parents are as engaged or interested in how their spawn are doing in school. Keep 'em quiet, out of the way, and, not costing me too much money. School? Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 18, 2013 09:20 AM (FtDQC) You are absolutely right. The parents who show up for parent-teacher conferences are the ones whose kid are doing well. The parents who need to come don't. Unless, of course, it is a conference where the kid would qualify for some kind of check from the government. They will run to the school for that. Parents will enroll kids long enough to qualify for some kind of assistance program. Once the requisite number of days pass, and the eligibility is verified, the kid is never seen again.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 18, 2013 05:55 AM (nj9sX)

142 @138..It's my thought process that they are taking (dumbing) it down and it is not teaching deductive reasoning or thinking skills. Just regurgitation.
My point is that even if a student can't stay up to speed on what is deemed important, they are fed what to know instead of having learned it.
How does this do anything to further the desire to learn as opposed to "I can't wait to get the hell out of school"?
I have intelligent kids- at least I think I do. I went to every conference, every event, hired tutors if necessary and even stayed up all night to help the procrastinator, kid 2. But kid 3 comes home and says the class gets a retake a test? She got an A and still retakes. That is fucked up. It should not be happening. If kids were tested on their retention (think Iowa Test of Basic Skills) yearly as opposed to being fed what they are tested on, Common Core and the concept it owns, would not be needed, and you could hire and fire the failed teachers whose kids are not learning. Common Core is going to kill anything kids could possibly do because of "retakes" and partial credit. This teaches nothing but how to merely get by. There will not be effective retention, in my opinion.

Posted by: DefendUSA at November 18, 2013 09:52 AM (nAHMK)

143 Olof Ã…kerlund is a bit of a jackass, FWIW.

Posted by: MMW at November 18, 2013 12:39 PM (kt/h1)

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