November 04, 2013

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— Gabriel Malor

Happy Monday.

ICYMI, WaPo had a piece on how the White House let politics destroy its Obamacare rollout.

The President will be spending some time this week campaigning for Obamacare. No, the website's not fixed yet. He's got one answer for everything -- a speech -- and, by Golly, if that's all he can do then that's all he'll do.

National Journal's Ron Founier doesn't think Obama has learned anything from the failed Obamacare rollout and expects more "insularity, incompetence, and deception" as things get worse.

Megan McArdle picks apart the latest Democratic lie that people who get their insurance through their employers are unaffected by the Obamacare disaster.

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1 DAY 363 1,098 to go (1,169 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 02:47 AM (uf1pv)

2 How could politics destroy something that was an utter failure from its inception???

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 02:48 AM (uf1pv)

3 You know, I love that picture of Kathleen Syphilis being handed "Websites For Dummies." I'd like to see someone hand her Milton Bradley's "Operation" board game. THAT would be genius. I smell a mass mail-in campaign to HHS.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 02:49 AM (uf1pv)

4

I'm sure in his speech Obama will talk about howno one is as angry as he and how he will not rest until someone is held respsonsible.  You know, just like the Tea Party/IRS, NSA and Benghazi. 

Posted by: Hawkins at November 04, 2013 02:50 AM (DuTGc)

5 Trifecta!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 02:50 AM (uf1pv)

6 "...National Journal's Ron Founier doesn't think Obama has learned anything from the failed Obamacare rollout and expects more "insularity, incompetence, and deception" as things get worse." I believe this is known as "ideology."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 02:51 AM (uf1pv)

7 National Journal's Ron Founier doesn't think Obama has learned anything from the failed Obamacare rollout and expects more "insularity, incompetence, and deception" as things get worse. Wow. Smart guy. Should've checked with some morons. We've known this for some time.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 04, 2013 02:52 AM (/djtm)

8 Ace gave Sefton the keys to the blog today?!??!?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 04, 2013 02:53 AM (7P8bM)

9 For the first time SCOAMF actually will own something. And this is HUGE. It has the potential to take down the left for a long time.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 02:53 AM (uf1pv)

10 Good morning J.J.

Quit showing off.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 04, 2013 02:53 AM (0xqQw)

11 8 Ace gave Sefton the keys to the blog today?!??!? Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 04, 2013 06:53 AM (7P8bM) Caffeine and raging fingers...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 02:53 AM (uf1pv)

12 10 Good morning J.J. Quit showing off. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 04, 2013 06:53 AM (0xqQw) I've been out of the top 10 commenter list for too long. Gots to catch up.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 02:54 AM (uf1pv)

13 I've been out of the top 10 commenter list for too long. Gots to catch up. LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 02:55 AM (23Kgq)

14 No matter how they rolled it out, obamacare sucks!

Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 02:55 AM (mpTrn)

15 Okay. I'm tapped out. Vot's nu mit yu?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 02:55 AM (uf1pv)

16 For someone who we are told is the smartest man this side of Mars, Obama sure lets a lot get by him.

Posted by: Case at November 04, 2013 02:57 AM (wf3Kt)

17 "Okay. I'm tapped out. Vot's nu mit yu? "

Tomorrows trash pick-up day.
So, I get to change litterboxes today.

Yah me!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 04, 2013 02:58 AM (0xqQw)

18 Good morning everyone! Another glorious day in paradise? Well, we are above the dirt pulling the daisies, not pushing them.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 04, 2013 02:58 AM (60Vyp)

19 And now the mother fucking dems want to force doctors to accept medicare? My spouse said it 4 years ago and Whoop der it is!!
If this even makes it anywhere in written form and then passes....I don't even want to go there.

Posted by: DefendUSA at November 04, 2013 02:58 AM (nAHMK)

20 Okay, Virginia morons/ettes. Big push for Cuccinnelli tomorrow. Libertarians beware; Sarvis is a leftist plant. The Dems are scared of a low turnout and are digging up the dead and schlepping them to the polls. Let's win this thing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 02:58 AM (uf1pv)

21 19 And now the mother fucking dems want to force doctors to accept medicare? My spouse said it 4 years ago and Whoop der it is!! If this even makes it anywhere in written form and then passes....I don't even want to go there. Posted by: DefendUSA at November 04, 2013 06:58 AM (nAHMK) I will personally knock on Dr. Oz's door and demand he give me a rectal exam. Oh, wait a minute...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:00 AM (uf1pv)

22 Does Virginia require I.D. ?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 04, 2013 03:00 AM (R8hU8)

23 McArdle, 'things you should have told us' earlier, like five years ago, but she bought that 'pig in a poke' and recommended others to do so,

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 04, 2013 03:00 AM (Jsiw/)

24 Anybody watch Homeland? There is getting into bed with the enemy and then there is getting in bed with the enemy. Think they went too far this time...

Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 03:00 AM (mpTrn)

25 Way evah body at?

Posted by: RolandTHTG at November 04, 2013 03:00 AM (qyoyx)

26 I am glad Obama is mentally unable to learn anything. His name is now a noun meaning failure. Always failing upward and the cult of personality has its consequences.

Posted by: Lester at November 04, 2013 03:01 AM (qTsuK)

27 23 McArdle, 'things you should have told us' earlier, like five years ago, but she bought that 'pig in a poke' and recommended others to do so, Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 04, 2013 07:00 AM (Jsiw/) She slept with Obama??!!!

Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 03:01 AM (mpTrn)

28 25 Way evah body at? Posted by: RolandTHTG at November 04, 2013 07:00 AM (qyoyx) I ain't chopped liver.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:02 AM (uf1pv)

29 Has the shooting started yet?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 04, 2013 03:02 AM (TWYH3)

30 If doctors are forced to give medical care, will it be illegal for them to leave the medical profession. I smell a new federal agency: Dept. of Homeland Internment.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:03 AM (uf1pv)

31 20 ...The Dems are scared of a low turnout and are digging up the dead...

Why can't Republicans dig up the dead to vote. Is it sacrilegious or something?

Posted by: Lester at November 04, 2013 03:04 AM (qTsuK)

32 29 Has the shooting started yet? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 04, 2013 07:02 AM (TWYH3) I think we've rage-stroked to the point of paralysis. Morning, Holtzie.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:04 AM (uf1pv)

33 31 20 ...The Dems are scared of a low turnout and are digging up the dead... Why can't Republicans dig up the dead to vote. Is it sacrilegious or something? Posted by: Lester at November 04, 2013 07:04 AM (qTsuK) I believe there is a passage somewhere in the Talmud where Rabbi Akiba discusses this at length...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:05 AM (uf1pv)

34 It is amazing when politicians think they can impose radical changes on those they govern without their permission. And don't give me this shit elections have consequences. How can something so personal as healthcare be controlled by the government? Fuck liberals!

Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 03:06 AM (mpTrn)

35 What are the odds that most New Yorkers stay home tomorrow, thinking that DeBlasio will win in a blowout... and thereby letting Lhota squeak by in a shocker? I can hope, can't I?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:07 AM (uf1pv)

36 I believe that everything is discussed at length somewhere in at least one of the Talmuds!

Posted by: Juan de Hattatime at November 04, 2013 03:08 AM (p7LQY)

37 34 It is amazing when politicians think they can impose radical changes on those they govern without their permission. And don't give me this shit elections have consequences. How can something so personal as healthcare be controlled by the government? Fuck liberals! Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 07:06 AM (mpTrn) Levin makes this point and if you take nothing else away from his program this would be it: Only people are up for election. The Constitution is NEVER up for election.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:08 AM (uf1pv)

38 Vot's nu mit yu?  Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 06:55 AM

I'm seriously pissed off today (okay, so that's maybe not new).

Another week starts, and what do we have? A bunch of pundits, anal-ysts and prognosticators, each one with his own take on how some superficial part of Choom Boy's Plan to Fuck Up America has some little glitch, and makes him look not-quite-so-wonderful until it a) gets more money, b) is fixed by Google or c) gets a nice compromise from teh Eeeeeeevil Rethuglikkkans so it is Free to Save the World.

In short, since President Historic First© came wandering out of Illinois in a haze of choom smoke, he has faced a storm of mild criticism. All with no result, mainly because none of those who are paid to observe his little foibles have the balls -- or the love-for-country -- necessary to draw a damn conclusion and get behind a push to throw the Chicago Jesus's miserable treasonous ass out of office.

We're fighting fire with paper. Taking a water pistol to a .50 cal fight. Fiddling while the United States burns. Insert your favorite simile here.

Okay, so yeah, I'm a little upset. I can't believe this kind of limp-wristed detachment would have occurred 50 years ago. I don't want to believe it.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 04, 2013 03:09 AM (kaGpp)

39 Okay. I'm tired of typing. Where the hell is Vic and MP-4?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:09 AM (uf1pv)

40 And now the mother fucking dems want to force doctors to accept medicare? My spouse said it 4 years ago and Whoop der it is!!
If this even makes it anywhere in written form and then passes....I don't even want to go there.
Posted by: DefendUSA at November 04, 2013 06:58 AM (nAHMK)


I will personally knock on Dr. Oz's door and demand he give me a rectal exam.

Oh, wait a minute...


Pap smear. 404Care covers it.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2013 03:10 AM (d0Dmj)

41 33...I believe there is a passage somewhere in the Talmud...

Well now. Not being of a rabbinical bent myself but rather a half ass heathen, I say get the shovels.

Posted by: Lester at November 04, 2013 03:10 AM (qTsuK)

42 38 Posted by: MrScribbler at November 04, 2013 07:09 AM (kaGpp) O-kaaaaay.....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:10 AM (uf1pv)

43 No, but she endorsed him, because it was cool. and the scary chillbilly or something.

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 04, 2013 03:10 AM (Jsiw/)

44 How can something so personal as healthcare be controlled by the government?

Why not?  Education is personal, and it is.  Food is personal, and it is.  My toilet, the bulb in my reading light, I could keep going but it's all too depressing.

The tyranny may not have been obvious until recently when the ratchet got really tight all of a sudden, but it started before I was born.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 04, 2013 03:11 AM (hO8IJ)

45 40 Pap smear. 404Care covers it. Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2013 07:10 AM (d0Dmj) I'll take a bagel and a shmear...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:11 AM (uf1pv)

46 1 DAY 363... Let's hope you won't be adding McAuliffe to that list tomorrow.

Posted by: shredded chi at November 04, 2013 03:11 AM (fzHss)

47 Hi JJ. Didn't mean no disrespect. You're doing a fine job here. Carry on.

Posted by: RolandTHTG at November 04, 2013 03:12 AM (qyoyx)

48 41 33...I believe there is a passage somewhere in the Talmud... Well now. Not being of a rabbinical bent myself but rather a half ass heathen, I say get the shovels. Posted by: Lester at November 04, 2013 07:10 AM (qTsuK) And say Kaddish backwards seven times, while walking over the grave from right to left...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:12 AM (uf1pv)

49 Pap smear. 404Care covers it.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2013 07:10 AM (d0Dmj)


I'll take a bagel and a shmear...



Lox on that shmear?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2013 03:12 AM (d0Dmj)

50 46 1 DAY 363... Let's hope you won't be adding McAuliffe to that list tomorrow. Posted by: shredded chi at November 04, 2013 07:11 AM (fzHss) He does have potential.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:13 AM (uf1pv)

51 Well they are 'the wizards of smart' as Rush puts it, yes this is the thin blancmange, that Malor finds for us, when Steyn, McCarthy, Heyward have been among the few to pinpoint the nature of what we face.

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 04, 2013 03:14 AM (Jsiw/)

52 I can't believe this kind of limp-wristed detachment would have occurred 50 years ago.

1963?  If anyone made a protest against Medicare, or TANF, or any of the social-engineering wealth transfer programs, they didn't make the history books. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 04, 2013 03:14 AM (hO8IJ)

53 49 Lox on that shmear? Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2013 07:12 AM (d0Dmj) Yes, with capers and red onion and some whitefish.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:15 AM (uf1pv)

54 And say Kaddish backwards seven times, while walking over the grave from right to left..

Now I want to "work from home" and watch the X-Files.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 04, 2013 03:16 AM (hO8IJ)

55 Lox on that shmear?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2013 07:12 AM (d0Dmj)

Yes, with capers and red onion and some whitefish.



Crap. Now I'm hungry.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2013 03:16 AM (d0Dmj)

56 Only got one right on the ONT geek quiz. Morning. Where's Vic been?

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2013 03:16 AM (2VHEL)

57 " Why can't Republicans dig up the dead to vote. Is it sacrilegious or something? " vote? What about putting them in office? Yes, I'm looking at you, Gipper.

Posted by: shredded chi at November 04, 2013 03:17 AM (fzHss)

58 McAuliffe is more in the nature of the Voordalak, the Romanian Strigoi and the Phillipine aswang, all variety of ghouls.

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 04, 2013 03:17 AM (Jsiw/)

59 58 58 McAuliffe is more in the nature of the Voordalak, the Romanian Strigoi and the Phillipine aswang, all variety of ghouls. Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 04, 2013 07:17 AM (Jsiw/) In Italian he'd be a fahn-ghoul...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:18 AM (uf1pv)

60

One deer, two cars.

 

Driving to breakfast yesterday a deer jumped out in front of my wife's 2012 GMC Acadia (I was driving).  I hit it with the left front doing about 12 to 15K in damage.

 

At the same moment, a woman was traveling in the opposite direction and hit the same deer as it bounced off of my car.  Honda Accord totaled.  Nobody hurt.

 

The deer didn't come out too well either.

 

 

Posted by: jwest at November 04, 2013 03:18 AM (u2a4R)

61 The government of the United States. What is clusterfuckery of the highest order, Alex? Yesterday I was watching Rick Steves, of all people, traveling through Rome, and just casually drawing analogies between the failing Roman empire and the US. So sad.

Posted by: Gem at November 04, 2013 03:18 AM (zw+pb)

62 " Where's Vic been? " Hopefully, being a happy grandpa. Great grandpa?

Posted by: shredded chi at November 04, 2013 03:19 AM (fzHss)

63 #52, HeatherRadish -- I suppose not, as the eventual consequences were not as easy to see.

But if Ike, or JFK, or even that crook Johnson had represented as real and basic a threat to the existence of the country as Choom Boy, there would have been a pushback.

Hard to imagine that JFK's bumbling, which almost resulted in a mushroom cloud or two during the Missile Crisis has been eclipsed....

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 04, 2013 03:19 AM (kaGpp)

64 I have a henge disguised as a rose garden.

Posted by: Lester at November 04, 2013 03:19 AM (qTsuK)

65 I could keep going but it's all too depressing. - HeatherRadish In NY, on certain bridges they are now just collecting tolls as people pass through toll booths... Unmanned tollbooths either register your ez pass or if you don't have one, they.just. mail. you. the. fee. ... Another system ripe for errors and abuses...and just out and out creepy

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 04, 2013 03:20 AM (EJ/Tn)

66 Great hymns of the faith-"Beneath the cross of Jesus", written by Elizabeth Clephane of Edinburgh, a woman acquainted with grief who yet found that in a weary land-the cross of Jesus was a refuge for her: The story http://www.lectionary.org/HymnStories/Beneath%20the%20Cross%20of%20Jesus.htm The music by a lovely college choir. (scroll down) I'm surprised college choirs are still singing Christian music: http://cindyholman.com/2013/03/18/beneath-the-cross-of-jesus/ Grace and peace,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 03:20 AM (23Kgq)

67 Morning JJ.. So Barryzeelbub "I could fuck up a cup of coffee" is going to make a speech? Heh.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 04, 2013 03:20 AM (1sC6P)

68 A collection of 1,500 artworks confiscated by the Nazis in the 1930s and 1940s has been found in the German city of Munich, media reports say.

About a billion euros' worth.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24794970

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 04, 2013 03:21 AM (hO8IJ)

69 65 I could keep going but it's all too depressing. - HeatherRadish In NY, on certain bridges they are now just collecting tolls as people pass through toll booths... Unmanned tollbooths either register your ez pass or if you don't have one, they.just. mail. you. the. fee. ... Another system ripe for errors and abuses...and just out and out creepy Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 04, 2013 07:20 AM (EJ/Tn) Flip a switch that rotates your license plates, a la Bond's Aston Martin...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:21 AM (uf1pv)

70 Wow, jwest, sounds like a close call. Glad you're okay.

Posted by: Gem at November 04, 2013 03:22 AM (zw+pb)

71 63 Hard to imagine that JFK's bumbling, which almost resulted in a mushroom cloud or two during the Missile Crisis has been eclipsed.... Posted by: MrScribbler at November 04, 2013 07:19 AM (kaGpp) Stick around. A mushroom cloud may very well be in our future from the Norks, Muzzies or Chi-coms courtesy of King Putt the incompetent.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:23 AM (uf1pv)

72 " Where's Vic been? " Hopefully, being a happy grandpa. Great grandpa? Posted by: shredded chi at November 04, 2013 07:19 AM (fzHss) Does he have a new family member?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 03:23 AM (XIxXP)

73 Heather, I read that article yesterday on the missing artwork. Amazing story.

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2013 03:24 AM (2VHEL)

74

70 "Wow, jwest, sounds like a close call. Glad you're okay."

 

The SUV took it like a champ.  That poor woman in the Accord had deer guts on her face when she got out of the car.

Posted by: jwest at November 04, 2013 03:25 AM (u2a4R)

75 The deer didn't come out too well either. Posted by: jwest at November 04, 2013 07:18 AM (u2a4R) That sucks. I have yet to hit one. I've been close so many times and I have always lived in Deer infested areas. I'm due. I'm sure of it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 03:25 AM (XIxXP)

76 Good morning. I slept late and started by leisurely setting up the coffee. Glad y'all didn't wait for me. TFG thinks he is really good at killing people. Chicago Community Organizer skill set. Ah! Coffee's cooked!

Posted by: mindful webworker - fresh as a daisy cutter at November 04, 2013 03:25 AM (AMsS5)

77 I smell a new federal agency: Dept. of Homeland Internment.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 07:03 AM (uf1pv)



No, there will just be sub-divisions in the re-education camps:  TEA Party Hills, Conservative Valley, Medical Arts Haven, Recalcitrant Teachers Desert, etc.

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 04, 2013 03:26 AM (XdnQT)

78 Ah! Coffee's cooked! Posted by: mindful webworker - fresh as a daisy cutter at November 04, 2013 07:25 AM (AMsS5) I'm still waiting. Changed the time on the coffee pot and accidently hit PM.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 03:26 AM (XIxXP)

79 76 Ah! Coffee's cooked! Posted by: mindful webworker - fresh as a daisy cutter at November 04, 2013 07:25 AM (AMsS5) Hopefully not the Sgt. Yemana/.50-cents-a-slice variety.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:27 AM (uf1pv)

80 But if Ike, or JFK, or even that crook Johnson had represented as real and basic a threat to the existence of the country as Choom Boy, there would have been a pushback.

In hindsight, LBJ was.  Ruined families and instilled the expectation of free shit, confiscated from others.  *srednop*

Eh.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 04, 2013 03:27 AM (hO8IJ)

81 77 No, there will just be sub-divisions in the re-education camps: TEA Party Hills, Conservative Valley, Medical Arts Haven, Recalcitrant Teachers Desert, etc. Posted by: Hrothgar at November 04, 2013 07:26 AM (XdnQT) "Appendectomies Macht Frei"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:27 AM (uf1pv)

82 Sorry about your wife's car, jwest. but I'm glad you're o.k. How traumatic for the woman in the other car, but I'm glad she wasn't hurt.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 03:28 AM (23Kgq)

83 Bear feet.
http://t.co/DJmOvLgbnD

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 04, 2013 03:28 AM (hO8IJ)

84 52 -

People objected.  But Johnson sold the "war on poverty" and the carrying on of the legacy of the dead Kennedy. 

How dare anyone object to that?  People tried, but... well, see the Goldwater election campaign, for one. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2013 03:29 AM (BeSEI)

85 Ø?

Is by far the stupidest man I have ever seen hold any kind of elected office. Not even my city and county Kommissars are quite as dumb as he is. Not even the school board members....

Posted by: backhoe at November 04, 2013 03:31 AM (ULH4o)

86 Flip a switch that rotates your license plates, a la Bond's Aston Martin...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 07:21 AM

The toll system you're talking about is old-tech, JJ. I had a tiny part in the marketing of one such system in the early 1990s, all drawn from its manufacturer's defense electronics work.

At least they didn't attach a missile battery to each toll plaza as "enforcement." I can see Choom Boy advocating that.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 04, 2013 03:31 AM (kaGpp)

87 Interesting article in my local rag this morning about the upcoming primary fight between  the guy who was  nominated by party officials in 2012 vs. the  biracial ex-Miss America, who is a Harvard trained lawyer.

He's Mr. Reach arounds across the aisle, so people are complaining about  her challenge.  I didn't read a whole lot about her, but saw her picture, and heck if any politician is going to run against her.  Hot doesn't begin to describe her. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2013 03:31 AM (BeSEI)

88 How dare anyone object to that? People tried, but... well, see the Goldwater election campaign, for one. Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2013 07:29 AM (BeSEI) Maybe with different weapons like jobs and freedom. Or you can do what they do, Lie your butt off till you win then do everything you have always wanted to do regardless of who gets hurt or which laws you break.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 03:32 AM (XIxXP)

89 60. I have a feeling that deer will be better than my bears tonight

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 04, 2013 03:32 AM (fmjNz)

90 Jwest

Guy from church went hunting Saturday with no results. On his way home? He's going to need a new truck.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 04, 2013 03:32 AM (MnSla)

91 87 -

This is a Republican fight, by the way. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2013 03:32 AM (BeSEI)

92 " Does he have a new family member? " Not sure, OSP. Just knew he said "any day" some time last week. Haven't seen him around and was concerned, but hoping for the best news. Smoeine here was going to shoot him an email Fri. Or Sat. Morning... Carol? No, MP4 I think - he'll know, i bet.

Posted by: shredded chi at November 04, 2013 03:32 AM (fzHss)

93 The President will be spending some time this week campaigning for Obamacare. No, the website's not fixed yet. He's got one answer for everything -- a speech -- and, by Golly, if that's all he can do then that's all he'll do. When all you have is a hammer, every problem is a nail.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 04, 2013 03:32 AM (rpnNZ)

94 What kind of sick person says, "I'm really good at killing people."? The only way I could see someone saying that is if they were inadvertently responsible for deaths of people through negligence and was feeling quite guilty and depressed, but that's not the context of Obama's remark. He's a malignant narcissist.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 03:33 AM (23Kgq)

95 84 How dare anyone object to that? People tried, but... well, see the Goldwater election campaign, for one. Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2013 07:29 AM (BeSEI) Goldwater lost because JFK got whacked, that commercial with the little girl getting nuked as she picks a daisy, as well as the smear campaign accusing him of being sympathetic to the Birchers. Had JFK lived, his first term would only have been mediocre at best. We'll never know.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:33 AM (uf1pv)

96 King Tut Tut Tut Tut! #onthisday 1922, Howard Carter's excavation found steps leading to Tutankhamun's tomb, by far the best preserved in the Valley of the Kings

Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 03:33 AM (mpTrn)

97 Dept. of Homeland Internment Too honest. It will be Dept. of Freedom, or something similarly Orwellian.

Posted by: real joe at November 04, 2013 03:33 AM (xXhgd)

98 BurtTC

Sound like Illinois.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 04, 2013 03:34 AM (MnSla)

99 It's not a MP4 story or anything, but I'm old enough to remember Marilyn Monroe banging JFK in front of an audience on his birthday and the press igonoring it.

Posted by: Smokey the Storyteller at November 04, 2013 03:34 AM (h0T3E)

100 86 At least they didn't attach a missile battery to each toll plaza as "enforcement." I can see Choom Boy advocating that. Posted by: MrScribbler at November 04, 2013 07:31 AM (kaGpp) Are you proposing we kill our taxpayers? Oh, wait a second... BANG-ZOOM!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:34 AM (uf1pv)

101 Dept. of Homeland Internment Too honest. It will be Dept. of Freedom, or something similarly Orwellian. Posted by: real joe at November 04, 2013 07:33 AM (xXhgd) I'm quite sure it will be under the Dept of Education. Thats a bastion of hateful commiies.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 03:35 AM (XIxXP)

102 96 Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 07:33 AM (mpTrn) I had a t-shirt promoting Steve Martin's first album with two pyramids over the breasteses, and the caption "Don't Touch My Tuts."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:35 AM (uf1pv)

103

suppose there only two television shows on:

 

A. Critical Thinking and Our Government

 

B. America's Got Talent

 

which would get the overwhelming viewers?

 

and there is our problem.

Posted by: Case at November 04, 2013 03:36 AM (wf3Kt)

104 99 It's not a MP4 story or anything, but I'm old enough to remember Marilyn Monroe banging JFK in front of an audience on his birthday and the press igonoring it. Posted by: Smokey the Storyteller at November 04, 2013 07:34 AM (h0T3E) I remember hearing it was with Michael, Fredo, Johnny Ola and Senator Geary, and it was with a mule in Havana...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:37 AM (uf1pv)

105 suppose there only two television shows on: A. Critical Thinking and Our Government B. America's Got Talent which would get the overwhelming viewers? and there is our problem. Posted by: Case at November 04, 2013 07:36 AM (wf3Kt) How about Roller Ball and AGT?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 03:37 AM (XIxXP)

106 103 oddly enough, both shows are oxymoronic.

Posted by: shredded chi at November 04, 2013 03:38 AM (fzHss)

107 Doctors be crazy!!!!! Cops find woman missing her head and fingerprints. They go to see her Dr. exhusband and find his sister and he bf carrying his body out of the house covered in a sheet, dead from an OD. http://goo.gl/ZjKx5e We can't keep losing doctors this way!!!1!!!!

Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 03:38 AM (mpTrn)

108 106 103 oddly enough, both shows are oxymoronic. Posted by: shredded chi at November 04, 2013 07:38 AM (fzHss) (screaming) "Hi! Billy Mays for Oxy-Moron!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:39 AM (uf1pv)

109 What is clusterfuckery of the highest order, Alex?


Cubs management, duh.

Posted by: alexthechick - Mmmm Snickers at November 04, 2013 03:39 AM (Gk3SS)

110 How about Roller Ball and AGT? Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 07:37 AM (XIxXP) Brought to you by Brawndo. It's got electrolytes!

Posted by: real joe at November 04, 2013 03:41 AM (xXhgd)

111 What are the odds that most New Yorkers stay home tomorrow, thinking that DeBlasio will win in a blowout... and thereby letting Lhota squeak by in a shocker? I can hope, can't I? Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 07:07 AM (uf1pv) In Texas in 1978, the Dems had held the governorship since the end of Reconstruction. The guy running on their side had been the Lite Governor and everyone figured he was a lock. He didn't really campaign much toward the end, and the Dems figured he a was lead-pipe cinch. He lost. Since then, there have only been two one-term Dem governors and both got run out of town on a rail. One of them got canned because he campaigned telling everyone that he wanted to require kids to pass their classes before being eligible for extracurricular activities. When he got his law, everyone was outraged. Now, who does that sound like?

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 04, 2013 03:41 AM (rpnNZ)

112 Yeah, this time of year the hunters are spooking the deer out of their usual haunts so they're wicked dangerous. If you see one crossing the road, slow down (if you're able to safely), there's usually a couple more right behind it. I've never hit one hard enough to damage a car, but I have hit a tail or two. They bolt, just that fast out of nowhere. Also, check your insurance policies, not all of them cover damage to a car caused by a deer. Expect to pay a deductible, because even though it's the deers fault, your insurance can't collect from its insurance, so you're out.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 04, 2013 03:42 AM (U2UQk)

113 "A collection of 1,500 artworks confiscated by the Nazis in the 1930s and 1940s has been found in the German city of Munich, media reports say." - HeatherRadish™ That war will be with us forever. A reminder that good-at-killing dog-eater still has a ways to go to meet historic records. But he's trying.

Posted by: mindful webworker - never again at November 04, 2013 03:43 AM (Bfbpz)

114 111 Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 04, 2013 07:41 AM (rpnNZ) I give.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:43 AM (uf1pv)

115 Loretta Swit (original Cagney)

Hot Lips for Ferret Face

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 04, 2013 03:46 AM (MnSla)

116 Heh. Bernatd Kerik, fresh out of federal prison, is on Today show with Matty Lauer complaining about the prison system. Is it ironic Monday already?

Posted by: shredded chi at November 04, 2013 03:46 AM (fzHss)

117 47 Hi JJ. Didn't mean no disrespect. You're doing a fine job here. Carry on. Posted by: RolandTHTG at November 04, 2013 07:12 AM (qyoyx) J.J. isn't chopped liver. He's more like pâté. Definitely an acquired taste.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 04, 2013 03:46 AM (tOkJB)

118 How could politics destroy something that was an utter failure from its inception???

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
...............
Indeed!

Good morning everyone.

I haven't finished that WaPo article yet, but I see the continuation in there of a meme the libtards are trying to push that implementation of Obamacare is all the fault of the states that refused to do their own exchanges.  That's just bullshit.

From a project design perspective, it shouldn't matter how many states are on the federal exchange.  Each state has its own discreet offerings, but presented to the web site user the same.  They could have designed the site for a single state and simply had a sub-site for each state.

Shit.. they could have simply bought the code from one of the states that did it right!

What a bunch of fuckups.


Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 04, 2013 03:47 AM (b/lt+)

119 Only people are up for election. The Constitution is NEVER up for election. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 07:08 AM (uf1pv) I've been boring people with my rantings over Allende but it applies: The leftys like to say he was "democratically elected" Well, sort of. In 1970, he got 36% of the vote which put him ahead of the other candidates. 64% of the population did not elect him to turn the country commie. Even if you have a majority, with a constitution, you can't make radical changes to a country. In 1973, they had a referendum to impeach him but did not gather enough votes. Still, 60% of the country wanted him out. The coup which was that fall, was supported by 80% of the population.

Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 03:47 AM (mpTrn)

120 The Jackie Mason quotes re: the SCOAMF are golden. (see new Drudge link - which links to WND, so...)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 04, 2013 03:49 AM (IXrOn)

121 I see people are dumping on Niles Farage of the UKIP for speaking up for "Christian British" values. Well, somebody better speak up for them or for Judeo-Christian values because otherwise England will be a caliphate within 15 years.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 03:50 AM (23Kgq)

122 95 -

Right, that's what I meant.  In response to Heather's question, Goldwater was trying to make the case AGAINST bigger government, but he wasn't being heard.  The combination of JFK's death, and the fact that the R party was evenly split (gee, that sounds familiar) between conservatives and reach around across the aisle types  made in damn near impossible for any coherent message against the coming government expansion to get through. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2013 03:52 AM (BeSEI)

123 How do you store 1500 pieces of art work in an apartment? Even if they were removed from the frames, you have to make sure they are properly stored so they don't deteriorate.

Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 03:53 AM (mpTrn)

124 Oh, Good GriefÂ… Oregon Health Exchange Website Only Works with Internet Explorer H/T Jim Hoft apparently, now itÂ’s discovered that their exchange website only works for Internet Explorer. So all those young people that like to use Firefox, Safari, Chrome, etcÂ… are out of luckÂ…

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 03:54 AM (XIxXP)

125 Cubs management, duh.

Posted by: alexthechick - Mmmm Snickers at November 04, 2013 07:39 AM (Gk3SS)

I think that there is a certain nobility in the Cubs and their century-long drought.

Have you considered what would happen if they actually win? There might be problems with the space-time continuum....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 03:55 AM (oJ5Fd)

126 118 J.J. isn't chopped liver. He's more like pâté. Definitely an acquired taste. Posted by: Ed Anger at November 04, 2013 07:46 AM (tOkJB) Quelque chose a manger? Le Snausage, peut-être?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:55 AM (uf1pv)

127

"Also, check your insurance policies, not all of them cover damage to a car caused by a deer. Expect to pay a deductible, because even though it's the deers fault, your insurance can't collect from its insurance, so you're out."

 

We're going to see how the insurance works later today.

 

I've got 6 cars, 2 houses, boats, trailers and toys, along with personal liability   all through Allstate with what suppose to be gold-plated policies.  This agent has been making a fairly good living off of my premiums, so I hope he'll earn his money.

Posted by: jwest at November 04, 2013 03:55 AM (u2a4R)

128 How do you store 1500 pieces of art work in an apartment? Even if they were removed from the frames, you have to make sure they are properly stored so they don't deteriorate. Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 07:53 AM (mpTrn) I would go to a dept store and swiped 500 of those silica packets.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 03:55 AM (XIxXP)

129 Back in the day, on CompuServe religion forum, there were characters who, like some folks here, seemed out of place, too, um, enthusiastic, pushy, insistent about q particular belief - nuts to the point of banning. Then I'd see the same person in some technical forum and they seemed perfectly normal. I suppose we can all be like that, given the right circumstances. The wife and I were on a two-lane several years ago, when a deer jump between our car and approaching car. Nowhere to turn, fortunately, it only clipped the front end of our car. With a little work, we could still get the door open, so we never fixed it. The deer was probably badly hurt, but ran off. But coming between two cars in the middle of the night on a two lane road, that was really scary. I was a passenger asleep in the front seat in 1978, when we had a horse. When I woke up, my face was mangled, but fortunately, all that blood all over everything wasn't mine. At least most of it. You were just driving down the road, everything seems fine... WHAM

Posted by: mindful webworker - good at killing trolls at November 04, 2013 03:56 AM (Bfbpz)

130 I would go to a dept store and swiped 500 of those silica packets. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 07:55 AM (XIxXP) I think you would have to worry about bugs and rats, too.

Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 03:58 AM (mpTrn)

131 I think you would have to worry about bugs and rats, too. Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 07:58 AM (mpTrn) Hmm.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 03:58 AM (XIxXP)

132 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 07:50 AM (23Kgq)

The problem with English and European nativism is that recent experience shows us that it may end badly.

Of course it's a completely different situation, and Islam is in fact degrading Western culture, but most of the message is coming from the knuckle-dragging, booger-eating fools on the far end of the sanity spectrum.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 03:58 AM (oJ5Fd)

133 129 I would go to a dept store and swiped 500 of those silica packets. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 07:55 AM (XIxXP) Get Banksy to paint in Martin Boormann staring out over the lake...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:59 AM (uf1pv)

134 If this even makes it anywhere in written form and then passes....I don't even want to go there. I don't think Preznit Jarrett waits for shit to pass. She just grabs Barky by his jug ear, and tells him to make it so. "By his Royal Decree, all doctors herewith and henceforth shall be reimbursed with the Royal script. They may find their payment on their Royal EBT cards."

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 04, 2013 03:59 AM (rN6ca)

135 134 Get Banksy to paint in Martin Boormann staring out over the lake... Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 07:59 AM (uf1pv) Zombie Bob Ross painting "happy little Nazis."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 03:59 AM (uf1pv)

136 who, like some folks here, seemed out of place, too, um, enthusiastic, pushy, insistent about q particular belief I don't think I'm nuts to the point of banning-yet. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 03:59 AM (23Kgq)

137 I get insurance from my employer. Because of Obamacare, we just lost our provider (United Healthcare) who I was very happy with.

Posted by: Grim at November 04, 2013 04:00 AM (Qfjnm)

138 Of course it's a completely different situation, and Islam is in fact degrading Western culture, but most of the message is coming from the knuckle-dragging, booger-eating fools on the far end of the sanity spectrum. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 07:58 AM (oJ5Fd) That could be a chicken or the egg argument. Was it the muzzies that caused the degradation? Or, was it the collapse of the Euro Culture that empowered the muzzies. I'm thinking it's the latter. Must take kids to school, BRB.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 04:01 AM (XIxXP)

139 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 07:58 AM (oJ5Fd) I haven't really seen anything from Farage that suggests that or several others, but no doubt there are such people in the party.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 04:01 AM (23Kgq)

140 Need I correct "we had a horse" to "hit"?

Posted by: mindful webworker - auto correct doesn't at November 04, 2013 04:03 AM (uHgI5)

141

The deer didn't come out too well either

 

 

 

We call that tenderizing the meat. I was travelling behind a Semi when I witnessed a pheasant slamming into the side of the trailer. The bird went into a piece of cast iron with aromatic vegetables and wild rice.

Posted by: Cicero Kid. No shame in not wasting a meal at November 04, 2013 04:04 AM (DHQv9)

142 What is clusterfuckery of the highest order, Alex? Cubs? How about Andy Reid, 9 and 0 coach of the KC Chiefs, former coach of the Philadelphia Eagles? The media/sportswriters/pundits all wanted him gone last year. They got their wish, the fuckers. Now we're stuck with a backup quarterback who can throw seven touchdown passes in one game and a first year college coach. Record 4 and 5. One interesting thing I noticed. After one of the white players used the 'n' word in the offseason, Vick would hardly toss to the guy. Yesterday the white guy of 'n' word fame caught three TD's. He's been on fire, just needed the ball tossed in his direction.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 04, 2013 04:04 AM (U2UQk)

143 And wanting to be out of the EU is becoming a more popular view. My sister who has dual British citizenship and is about as far as you can get from a knuckle dragger and not religious in the slightest thinks being in the EU hasn't helped England much at all. really. She originally wanted to have dual citizenship because if he husband died she could go to another European country if necessary but now with more countries Europe in big trouble she's not so sure

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 04:05 AM (23Kgq)

144 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 08:01 AM (23Kgq)

He is mainstream, and clearly seeks political solutions (thus the "most" in my comment). He also sees problems with monetary union first, and social issues second.

It's the fringe that the MSM uses to tar the entire movement.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 04:06 AM (oJ5Fd)

145 I agree with you, CBD.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 04:08 AM (23Kgq)

146 I don't think I'm nuts to the point of banning-yet. ;^) -FenelonSpoke You'd have to shrilly interject your opinion in all exchanges, insisting your beliefs are divine and everyone else's are demonic. For the full effect. You'll have to up your game, gentle friend.

Posted by: mindful webworker - auto correct doesn't at November 04, 2013 04:09 AM (13IVx)

147 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 08:05 AM (23Kgq)

The EU is a monumental mistake that will destroy Western culture in Europe.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 04:09 AM (oJ5Fd)

148 142 -

There's a song by the Smiths, called "Is it Really So Strange?"

It contains a line "I got confused and killed a horse, I can't change the way I feel..." 

I don't think he was talking about the same thing... or was he? 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2013 04:09 AM (BeSEI)

149 148 -

I am wracking my brain... can't think of ANYBODY who does that around here...

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2013 04:10 AM (BeSEI)

150 I agree with you, CBD.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 08:08 AM (23Kgq)

Careful.

It's that kind of behavior that will get you banned.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 04:11 AM (oJ5Fd)

151 Did SCOAMF make a deal with the devil? He's destroyed medical insurance, leaving millions suffering in its stead, he's destroyed most of our European alliances, the Middle East is in its worst shape in forty years, on the edge of about three wars breaking out or in progress and accelerating, the economy is in the worst shape in seventy years and our national defense is ragged. Yet 40% of voters still think they kind of like the direction things are going, including two of my siblings. WTF? It's the devil, I tell you. He made a deal with the devil.

Posted by: MTF at November 04, 2013 04:13 AM (eFLi6)

152 2 -- J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 06:48 AM (uf1pv)

It's not a 'failure'... in the end, it'll be nothing more than mass murder by government edict.

There will be consequences for the mass cancellations of viable, legitimate health care plans.

I suggest that AoS HQ begin a count... the total should be impressive by November 2016.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 04, 2013 04:13 AM (lJaja)

153 [iThe Obama White House has a credibility problem, one that could infect his entire agenda. It started when the White House refused to release data on the number of people who enrolled in the online marketplace /i], an important metric for determining the effectiveness of the $400 million-plus site. Administration officials say they don't have the data, which is either a mark of extraordinary incompetence, or a lie. Ron Fournier doesn't think Obama has learned anything from the failed Obamacare rollout? It started when? Has Ron Fournier learned anything since about 2008? JEEEBUS

Posted by: ontherocks at November 04, 2013 04:16 AM (dTnY5)

154 Zombie Al Gore


Sweet Dreams are Made of This

Posted by: (ɾoǝʇɥǝɟɐʇɯɐu1@) ™ɾoǝʇɥǝ& at November 04, 2013 04:17 AM (MnSla)

155 Thanks. I don't really see any stubborn mean spirited reliigious nastiness here. It's more political demonization. You know, if you don't agree Chris Christe or Marco Rubio are the spawn of Satan or you think Ted Cruz made a disastrous mistake or not.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 04:18 AM (23Kgq)

156 Who was Nucky to lecture Chalky about minding business instead of chasing ass?

Posted by: Jesse at November 04, 2013 04:21 AM (mpTrn)

157

@153..........Yet 40% of voters still think they kind of like the direction things are going.........

 

That must be the same 40% who love barbed wire enemas.

Posted by: Case at November 04, 2013 04:21 AM (wf3Kt)

158 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 08:09 AM (oJ5Fd) This was not entirely unpredicted. As much as I hate Foucault's "Ought" statements. His "is" work is the more accurate of the two. And IIRC he mentioned that an EU style system (it wasn't called the EU when being floated back then) would be a disaster. You'd think the nihilist progressives would listen to their king, but no, they ignored it. And now they'll pay the price. Of course thanks to the global economy so will the rest of us I suppose.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 04, 2013 04:21 AM (GaqMa)

159 We call that tenderizing the meat. I was travelling behind a Semi when I witnessed a pheasant slamming into the side of the trailer.The birdwent into a piece of cast iron with aromatic vegetables and wild rice. Posted by: Cicero Kid. No shame in not wasting a meal at November 04, 2013 08:04 AM (DHQv9) The only time* I missed a class as an undergrad was after I hit a pheasant. The class was an easy A and I had the choice between attending it or fixing dinner. Being a poor college kid, dinner won. I don't know if it was a young bird or my car's headlights, but that was the most tender pheasant I've ever had. Tastiest, too. *Only other class missed was to bury my dead pet cat.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 04, 2013 04:23 AM (tOkJB)

160 The Republicans should start using the word "repeal" whenever they're asked about Obamacare disasters. Just keep putting it out there, doesn't really matter if there's a plan to do it or not. Say it enough, in the context of their latest local horror story about lost coverage, and it will become part of the debate. Maybe. Can't hurt, and we can't keep just telling scary stories without being seen as having some sort of solution.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 04, 2013 04:23 AM (ZshNr)

161 I don't think Obama believes in Satan unless of course he really is a Muslim. They believe in Satan. However, Obama seems to believe believes that people who oppose his views are evil and also believes that America needs to be taken down a peg. His pact is with the devil of Marxism.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 04:24 AM (23Kgq)

162 Posted by: Ed Anger at November 04, 2013 08:23 AM (tOkJB)

Glancing blows are best.

When organs are ruptured they release nasty chemicals that can make the animal inedible.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 04:25 AM (oJ5Fd)

163 The EU is a monumental mistake that will destroy Western culture in Europe. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 08:09 AM (oJ5Fd) I was surprised to learn how big a backer of the EU concept Churchill was. I think he forgot that the US *grew* the way it is and even with that we had plenty of regional friction before the progs started making things worse.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 04:27 AM (Pexsc)

164

Greetings  and salutations, window-lickers.

 

I see the Bird is the Word this fine morning.

 

SNAFU, y'all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 04, 2013 04:28 AM (0HooB)

165 Who was Nucky to lecture Chalky about minding business instead of chasing ass? Posted by: Jesse
......
Exactly!  I was thinking the same thing last night!

This whole Chalky's club story line (and the several sub-stories) has taken way too long and has been allowed way too much screen time, IMHO.  Let's get back to pushing booze and the mob shootouts!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 04, 2013 04:28 AM (b/lt+)

166 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 08:24 AM (23Kgq) As I've said before, my dad guessed that Obama's secret is not that he's a muslim just that he's an atheist. He tried to hide that (and when you are obviously trying to hide something people fill in with all sorts of different speculations.) Being an atheist Obama probably doesn't care much for notions of good and evil.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 04, 2013 04:29 AM (GaqMa)

167 Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 04, 2013 08:21 AM (GaqMa)

The obvious fear of hyper-nationalism has blinded the left in Europe the undeniable fact that people like borders and fences and neighborhoods and being around like-minded people.

The trick is to structure the political process, and therefore society, so that it is contained, and allowed to create growth and vibrancy and wealth rather than xenophobia.

That was, until recently, the magic of American Exceptionalism.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 04:29 AM (oJ5Fd)

168

I don't think Preznit Jarrett waits for shit to pass. She just grabs Barky by his jug ear, and tells him to make it so. "By his Royal Decree, all doctors herewith and henceforth shall be reimbursed with the Royal script. They may find their payment on their Royal EBT cards."

 

It has to just gall them that they can only push  (so far) docs to take part in their harebrained scheme.  I have no doubt they'll be ruthless, but that would expose them even more to the lo-fo masses.

Posted by: RushBabe at November 04, 2013 04:29 AM (hrIP5)

169 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 08:25 AM (oJ5Fd) Only time I've had rabbit was because my dad was coming home after nightshift and hit a rabbit such as to just break the neck but do no other damage. Fortunately he was almost home anyway.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 04:30 AM (Pexsc)

170 It's nice that Ron Fornier came right out and called Obama's misspeaking what it rally is - lies. And several times too. He even refused to accept that it was the evil republicans' fault for not trying to help a extremely partisan law get implemented. Although he couldn't help himself at the end. The last paragraph blames the president's team for the lies. And of course he still thinks that Obamacare would have been successful if the president wasn't so incompetent. But whatever. It was still a reasonable article.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at November 04, 2013 04:30 AM (r+7wo)

171 His pact is with the devil of Marxism.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 08:24 AM (23Kgq)

He is willing to pay lip service to religion to gain votes and influence. He found a kindred spirit in reverend Wright.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 04:31 AM (oJ5Fd)

172

The EU is a monumental mistake that will destroy Western culture in Europe.

 

You think so?

Posted by: George Soros at November 04, 2013 04:32 AM (hrIP5)

173 Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 04, 2013 08:29 AM (GaqMa) I side with those who say Obamanism is the president's religion. His *sympathies* though are definitely muslim. Heck, he said so in one of those stupid books and it's one of the few times his actions have matched his words.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 04:33 AM (Pexsc)

174 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 08:30 AM (Pexsc)

Did you like it?

When I was a kid we ate rabbit, but it was awful frozen stuff from Pel-Freez, which is a biological products company that sold its extra rabbits for food.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 04:33 AM (oJ5Fd)

175 Being an atheist Obama probably doesn't care much for notions of good and evil. I sort of go back and forth on whether Obama is an Atheist or a Muslim. He certainly hates Israel. I think Atheists can believe in Evil. It's just stripped of religious connotations and in the case of malignant Marxist atheists-it's always the "other" folks who are evil.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 04:34 AM (23Kgq)

176 Well, he's certainly no friend to Christianity: "The future does not belong to those who insult the prophet of Allah" What about the hundreds of Christians being killed daily?!! He's a disgrace to the religion he claims.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 04:36 AM (23Kgq)

177 Morning all. Hate obama and his commie bastard comrades more than ever

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 04, 2013 04:36 AM (t3UFN)

178 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 08:33 AM (oJ5Fd) I don't actually remember how it tasted since I was under 10 at the time (think he asked a friend for advice and they decided to cook it in wine). Dad said it was good because he was able to bleed it out quickly but all I can remember is that it happened at all.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 04:36 AM (Pexsc)

179 "I don't really see any stubborn mean spirited reliigious nastiness here. It's more political demonization." That's the parallel I intended, of course. Fanatical True Believers exist in ... every? ... category. (Fanatical quilters? Probably.)

Posted by: mindful webworker - auto correct doesn't at November 04, 2013 04:38 AM (qG1i2)

180 Okay, fellow babies. Gots to go pee in a cup for my doctor. Later.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 04:38 AM (uf1pv)

181 I had a lovely black bunny who chewed what he shouldn't and died after a lot of medical care. He had such a personality and would sit in my lap. After that I could never eat rabbit unless I had to.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 04:38 AM (23Kgq)

182

Megan McArdle picks apart the latest Democratic lie that people who get their insurance through their employers are unaffected by the Obamacare disaster.

 

It's like Obammy decided to unilaterally delay the employer mandate for a reason or something.   Like maybe because that will be   many, many times more damaging than the    immediate  consequences of    the  individual mandate,   and he wanted to push it back   far enough that the nitty gritty of Obammycare will be in full swing by the time it kicks into effect, making it that much harder to repeal this monster of a "law."

 

Gosh.   It's almost like a conspiracy or something.   What's a conspiracy called that's actually based in facts   and actions?   Oh right, a PLAN.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 04, 2013 04:39 AM (4df7R)

183 My dad, who turns 86 today BTW, is an avid hunter and used to get his MiL to cook the rabbits he shot when he was a newlywed.  He says there's zero fat in them and that they're like filets.  And of course, the "taste like chicken."

Posted by: RushBabe at November 04, 2013 04:39 AM (hrIP5)

184 Polliwog
Rabbit is a very tasty meat dish. We raise our own for food.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 04, 2013 04:40 AM (MnSla)

185 insularity, incompetence, and deception are the pluses.  It goes downhill from there.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 04, 2013 04:41 AM (fZ2Zr)

186 I sort of go back and forth on whether Obama is an Atheist or a Muslim. He certainly hates Israel. I think Atheists can believe in Evil. It's just stripped of religious connotations and in the case of malignant Marxist atheists-it's always the "other" folks who are evil.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 08:34 AM (23Kgq)

 

Obammy doesn't believe in any particular religion    because they all require a belief in a power greater than one's self,  be that a deity, a pantheon of deities, or a state of consciousness.  Since,  to Obammy, there is nothing greater than himself, he is a monotheistic believer in the Church of Barack.   He just pretends to care about other religions because it keeps the   plebes happy.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 04, 2013 04:42 AM (4df7R)

187 I'm back, well the local talking heads on the radio are not impressed with Miss Lindseys sudden hard right turn. Everbody sees it. That lead to a conversation about his 3 challengers. Thaere are two good ones and one fraud.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 04:42 AM (XIxXP)

188 Has MPPPP gotten a response to her email to Vic? Good morning, Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 04, 2013 04:42 AM (z4WKX)

189 Has MPPPP gotten a response to her email to Vic? Good morning, Carol Posted by: CarolT at November 04, 2013 08:42 AM (z4WKX) MP4 is a man, and I don't think so.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 04:43 AM (XIxXP)

190 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at November 04, 2013 08:42 AM (4df7R) Well stated. That's where I came down on when I believe he's a malignant narcissist Atheist.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2013 04:43 AM (23Kgq)

191 j.J. Sefton, at least the days left are less than 1,000 but it canÂ’t come soon enough for me. Thanks for counting. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 04, 2013 04:44 AM (z4WKX)

192 Did you like it? When I was a kid we ate rabbit, but it was awful frozen stuff from Pel-Freez, which is a biological products company that sold its extra rabbits for food. Nothing like fresh shot squirrel & rabbit. Cleaned, battered & fried like chicken.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2013 04:44 AM (KvM9d)

193 That lead to a conversation about his 3 challengers. Thaere are two good ones and one fraud.

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Who is the fraud, OSP?  Russ and Lisa show?

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 04, 2013 04:45 AM (XB5Ak)

194 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2013 08:39 AM (zF6Iw)

That video is sad. She is almost incoherent; probably stoned off her gourd.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 04:45 AM (oJ5Fd)

195 Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2013 08:44 AM (KvM9d)

Fresh rabbit is fantastic. There is nothing like rabbit ragu over pappardelle!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 04:46 AM (oJ5Fd)

196 Who is the fraud, OSP? Russ and Lisa show? Posted by: Lady in Black at November 04, 2013 08:45 AM (XB5Ak) Apparently Nancy Mace is not who she appears to be.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 04:47 AM (XIxXP)

197 I'd like to see someone hand her Milton Bradley's "Operation" board game. THAT would be genius. I smell a mass mail-in campaign to HHS. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2013 06:49 AM (uf1pv) J.J. That is a great idea.

Posted by: CarolT at November 04, 2013 04:48 AM (z4WKX)

198

Pressure-cooking is the only way to cook skwerl. Rabbit-hunting was a great pass-time after deer season ended. Always liked them battered and pan-fried.

 

Posted by: Cicero Kid. No shame in not wasting a meal at November 04, 2013 04:48 AM (DHQv9)

199 Yay me. Today is the first day of open enrollment for medical here at work. Now I get to find out just what this nicklefuckery is gonna cost.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2013 04:48 AM (KvM9d)

200 Apparently Nancy Mace is not who she appears to be.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 08:47 AM (XIxXP)

 

Pity.  With a last name like Mace, that could have been an awesome campaign.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 04, 2013 04:48 AM (4df7R)

201 Apparently Nancy Mace is not who she appears to be.

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Hmm, good to know.  Did they say why? 

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 04, 2013 04:48 AM (XB5Ak)

202

Has MPPPP gotten a response to her email to Vic?

 

Yes, Carol, I did.  He posted later, too.  It was "rocking chair syndrome," so he wasn't sick or anything.  Just chillaxin.

 

And I'm a male.  I suppose I really ought to change my nic some day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2013 04:48 AM (zF6Iw)

203 Billy bring this, just a little. Talking about fanatics, I only meant, with some folks, there's topics you can talk about, and topics you can't. When you got to know someone in one context where they were fanatical and you can just ignore them, then you meet them being more normal in other circumstances, it's kind of funny. Which reminds me: Mom's having about 3 dozen people for Thanksgiving. Practice in diplomacy.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dumb as a stump at November 04, 2013 04:48 AM (uHgI5)

204 "For a cancer patient, medical coverage is a matter of life and death. Take away people's ability to control their medical-coverage choices and they may die. I guess that's a highly effective way to control medical costs. Perhaps that's the point."

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10

Posted by: mama winger at November 04, 2013 04:48 AM (P6QsQ)

205 So I'm not the only rodent eater here...

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 04, 2013 04:49 AM (MnSla)

206 Apparently Nancy Mace is not who she appears to be. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 08:47 AM (XIxXP) Is she the one who was (or is I can't remember) business partners with sacred honor dude?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 04, 2013 04:50 AM (VtjlW)

207 RushBabe @186 Looks like I need to add to the birthday list: RushBabe's dad (coney consumer)

Posted by: Gran at November 04, 2013 04:50 AM (mw0FO)

208 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 08:47 AM (XIxXP)

She says the right things. Her web site has clear statements of her beliefs, and they sound good.

So....what's up with her?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 04:51 AM (oJ5Fd)

209 So I'm not the only rodent eater here... Nope. And squirrel season just opened in Texas. Still hasn't been cold enough though.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2013 04:51 AM (KvM9d)

210 Posted by: Mary PoppinsÂ’ Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2013 08:39 AM (zF6Iw) MPPPP, Have you heard from Vic? Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 04, 2013 04:52 AM (z4WKX)

211 209 Yes.

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2013 04:52 AM (2VHEL)

212 Cancer patients being kicked off their plans and told they can no longer see their doctors.

Didn't Barack talk about his mother's battle with cancer during his 2008 campaign, and tell people that was one of his motivations behind the Affordable Crap Act?

Posted by: mama winger at November 04, 2013 04:52 AM (P6QsQ)

213 Is she the one who was (or is I can't remember) business partners with sacred honor dude? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 04, 2013 08:50 AM (VtjlW) Mace is the former business partner of Will Folks, who runs the conservative South Carolina news website FITSNews. If that name sounds familiar, he was the one that slandered Nicki Haley claiming to have slept with her.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 04:52 AM (XIxXP)

214 That video is sad. She is almost incoherent; probably stoned off her gourd.

 

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2013 08:45 AM (oJ5Fd)

 

Probably.  As well as realizing she was nothing more than JFKs jiz-jar.

 

I've got a recent bio of MM that makes a list of all the meds she was on at the time of her death.  I'll see if I can find it and post it tomorrow.  She was a very lonely, unhappy woman, but she was also flighty, paranoid and - in my opinion - suffering from at least a touch of the mental disease that plagued her mother's side of the family.  As much as it's sad to look at her and wish someone could have saved her, I don't think any man could have.

 

BTW, just as an aside, I based my novels' relationship between Theda Bara and Toby, her makeup man, on the close friendship between MM and her makeup man, Whitey Snyder.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2013 04:52 AM (zF6Iw)

215 The only religion obama has is "love of thyself", as is true with most arrogant commie bastards

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 04, 2013 04:53 AM (t3UFN)

216 183 I had a lovely black bunny who chewed what he shouldn't and died after a lot of medical care. Ours liked to chew lamp cords. Somehow it never electrocuted itself.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 04, 2013 04:53 AM (tOkJB)

217

  What kind of sick person says, "I'm really good at killing people."?  

 

From  a Nobel Peace Prize winner none the less.. . . . .

 

Posted by: McCool at November 04, 2013 04:53 AM (nCSwS)

218 >>>And squirrel season just opened in Texas

rickb223

I miss my old .410 for skwirrell

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 04, 2013 04:54 AM (MnSla)

219 Nov.3 foreign news alongside gopper "it's the law of the land" ACA and open borders Flake-McCain amnesty: Prof. Daan Wybenga, 69, was found dead after being tortured to death in his house in Clarens, South Africa. His body was so badly mutilated that his son, Mr. Wim Wybenga, 37, could only recognise him by his hands. Daan Wybenga was a well-known author. He was murdered with boiling water and plastic bags. (Praag.org) The forgotten genocide: ** 4041 White Farmers have been murdered in South Africa ** 68,768 Afrikaners have been murdered Today, a section of the white population is preparing evacuation plans for when Mandela passes away. Jim Hoft, http://tinyurl.com/mk8b66r

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 04, 2013 04:54 AM (MhA4j)

220 >Unfortunately, except the 80% largely unaffected, these numbers are garbage.<

Meghan McArdle's an idiot to float nonsense like that without context.

Unaffected? Has she actually looked at the new Obamacare payroll taxes which affect that 80%?

How about the increased premiums as a result of PPACA?

That "80%" is very much affected by Obamacare. 

Posted by: Marcus at November 04, 2013 04:54 AM (GGCsk)

221

Nothing like fresh shot squirrel & rabbit. Cleaned, battered & fried like chicken.

 

Seconded, with biscuits and milk gravy.

 

As we used to say back home in Alabama,  "That's fine eatin'."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 04, 2013 04:54 AM (0HooB)

222 BTW, just as an aside, I based my novels' relationship between Theda Bara and Toby, her makeup man, on the close friendship between MM and her makeup man, Whitey Snyder. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2013 08:52 AM (zF6Iw) Thats very interesting.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 04:54 AM (XIxXP)

223

Posted by: CarolT at November 04, 2013 08:52 AM (z4WKX)

 

Yes, Carol.  Vic's fine.  He was just sitting in his rocking chair, remembering the good old days when he and Abe Lincoln would split a few rails and then chase some tail.  I don't know where he is today; he is expecting a great-grandchild, so that might be the reason.  Or he's just rockin' and a-pickin' and a-grinnin'.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2013 04:55 AM (zF6Iw)

224 A three-year review of physiciansÂ’ participation in force-feedings and detainee interrogations has concluded that military doctors engaged in abusive practices in Iraq, Afghanistan and Cuba and continue adhering to Defense Department policies that breach medical ethics. The report released today by the Institute of Medicine as a Profession found that military doctors and health care personnel on behavioral science consultation teams, or BSCTs, who routinely supported interrogations and participated in force-feedings violate the primary principle of medical ethics: First, do no harm. A) Bullshit B) if "Do now harm" is the object, why id the Federal Gov in favor of Medicaid and obamacare?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 04, 2013 04:56 AM (t3UFN)

225

For a cancer patient, medical coverage is a matter of life and death.
Take away people's ability to control their medical-coverage choices and
they may die. I guess that's a highly effective way to control medical
costs. Perhaps that's the point."

 

It's these folks you really feel sorry for.  Ogabe's mess just makes life all the more stressful.  Also heard of another case where the parents of an infant with a chronic heart condition have been told they can no longer use their cardiologist's practice.

Posted by: RushBabe at November 04, 2013 04:56 AM (hrIP5)

226 DiMaggio tried.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 04, 2013 04:56 AM (qRD8F)

227 I've got a recent bio of MM that makes a list of all the meds she was on at the time of her death. I'll see if I can find it and post it tomorrow. She was a very lonely, unhappy woman, but she was also flighty, paranoid and - in my opinion - suffering from at least a touch of the mental disease that plagued her mother's side of the family. As much as it's sad to look at her and wish someone could have saved her, I don't think any man could have.

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I have read accounts of MM saying that she had upwards of a dozen abortions in her lifetime. 

Posted by: mama winger at November 04, 2013 04:57 AM (P6QsQ)

228 MP4 is a man.... - Oldsailors Poet Heh. When I refer to MPPPPPPetc talking to the Mrs, I have settled on "Poppins." Least confusing of several possibilities. I suppose an alternative would be "Pierce," but, naww.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dumb as a stump at November 04, 2013 04:57 AM (OZjR5)

229 112 because even though it's the deers fault, your insurance can't collect from its insurance, so you're out. Deer aren't insured, you say? Do you suppose there are at least 7 million of them?

Posted by: Kathleen Sebelius at November 04, 2013 04:58 AM (U82Km)

230 The Podcast made me smile, the post was nice too. Obama care..pissing off people left and right (no pun intended). I love the comments.."I didn't think I had to pay more for insurance because I had a job". "I didn't think I would lose my insurance." Just wait until the hammer falls on company plans and union people start having plans cancelled. The weeping and gnashing of teeth will taste like sweet honey to me! Voting has consequences kids!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at November 04, 2013 04:58 AM (J4nln)

231 @mama winger. I think you meant this article: http://on.wsj.com/17B6rRb In any case, scary as shit. Not unexpected, but scary as shit.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 04, 2013 04:58 AM (GaqMa)

232 Just wait until the hammer falls on company plans and union people start having plans cancelled. If this continues, you will discover that union folks are grandfathered without conditions.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 04:59 AM (XIxXP)

233 A three-year review of physicians' participation in force-feedings and detainee interrogations has concluded that military doctors engaged in abusive practices in Iraq, Afghanistan and Cuba and continue adhering to Defense Department policies that breach medical ethics. Fine. Don't force feed them. They want to die? Makes two of us.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2013 04:59 AM (KvM9d)

234 Once, when watching an un-ending trailer in a movie theater with my daughter, a very inappropriate (compared to what we paid to see) trailer came on and it was a horror film about demonic possession. I saw my daughter squirm a bit and then she asked me if, "That stuff really happens." After the movie, I gave her all the obligatory devil talk ; yes, we really Do have exorcists in the Catholic Church; etc. and then I added: " But, the devil is such a lazy s.o.b., he doesn't do that stuff anymore. All he does now is sit back and get people to vote democrat en masse." ...scared the beejeebuz out of her!

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 04, 2013 04:59 AM (EJ/Tn)

235 Posted by: RushBabe at November 04, 2013 08:56 AM (hrIP5) That's what scared John about the possibility of *not* dying. He was his plant's accountant and *knew* that they would have to kick people from theie very good insurance to the exchanges. That and the fact that *any* bankruptcy results in the loss of a CPA's license I believe really affected his will to live since he knew he was leaving life insurance.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 04:59 AM (Pexsc)

236 Later

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 04, 2013 04:59 AM (MnSla)

237 @mama winger.

I think you meant this article: http://on.wsj.com/17B6rRb

In any case, scary as shit. Not unexpected, but scary as shit.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 04, 2013 08:58 AM (GaqMa)


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Yes!  That's the one.  Sorry for the mess-up.

Posted by: mama winger at November 04, 2013 05:00 AM (P6QsQ)

238 I really ought to change my nic some day. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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I would miss the alliteration

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 04, 2013 05:01 AM (aDwsi)

239 Probably. As well as realizing she was nothing more than JFKs jiz-jar. I've got a recent bio of MM that makes a list of all the meds she was on at the time of her death. I'll see if I can find it and post it tomorrow. She was a very lonely, unhappy woman, but she was also flighty, paranoid and - in my opinion - suffering from at least a touch of the mental disease that plagued her mother's side of the family. As much as it's sad to look at her and wish someone could have saved her, I don't think any man could have. BTW, just as an aside, I based my novels' relationship between Theda Bara and Toby, her makeup man, on the close friendship between MM and her makeup man, Whitey Snyder. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2013 08:52 AM (zF6Iw) I still think there's a strong probability that her death was an accidental overdose and/or a bad reaction between all the medications she was on. There was a great article by the guy who did the staging for the auction of her estate pointing out that she was far tinier than people think. This wasn't speculation, this was based on her actual clothing. He also commented that she didn't have a lot of jewels or furs and that her books were actually read.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 04, 2013 05:01 AM (VtjlW)

240

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 08:54 AM (XIxXP)

 

Well, Snyder and MM weren't lovers, but they were very close.  He did her first makeup tests when she joined Twentieth Century-Fox and stayed with her to the end.  In fact, she made him promise that when she died, he would do her makeup for the funeral.  And one of the first calls DiMaggio made after her death was to Snyder: "Whitey, you're going to to her makeup, aren't you?  You promised her."  And he did.

 

DiMaggio tried.

 

Yes he did.  But note this.  The day they got married, Marilyn said to one of her friends, "I'm going to marry Arthur Miller."   Here's the thing: her first marriage to Jim Daugherty was fairly happy (although Daugherty said that she was insatiable when it came to sex, wanting it constantly).  I think if he had not joined the service and she had not become a model, she would have led a more or less content life as an ordinary (if MILFy) housewife.  But we'll never know.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2013 05:01 AM (zF6Iw)

241 Posted by: Mary PoppinsÂ’ Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2013 08:55 AM (zF6Iw) Thank you, MPPPP. I thought he might have become a great grandfather but havenÂ’t seen him here since Wednesday, so I was a bit worried. I may have insulted him, I told him all his links are depressing. He canÂ’t help it if there is no good news since 2009. I better get ready for work I hope everyone has a nice day. itÂ’s 31 degrees here. IÂ’m glad I decided to put all my garden things away for the winter Saturday after I finished spraying for the final time this year. I may go outside and dig up a rose that started to put out strange new growth in July and it hasnÂ’t stopped. I should get it out of the ground now and throw some organic matter in the soil there so it will be ready for spring. It will have to warm up for me to do so though. Bye guys. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 04, 2013 05:02 AM (z4WKX)

242 201 Pressure-cooking A popcorn popper is the only way to cook skwerl. FIFY

Posted by: Mike Huckabee at November 04, 2013 05:02 AM (tOkJB)

243 I really ought to change my nic some day. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing ---- Nooo, that would be like ace going to Jack or Duece of spades.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 05:03 AM (XIxXP)

244 Posted by: mama winger at November 04, 2013 08:57 AM (P6QsQ) That sort of physical, emotional, and spiritual trauma would make *anyone* crazy. I've always thought it telling that the "Queen of Sex" died young while the "King of Sex" dodders along slowly showing the visibly repulsive aspect of his inner character.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 05:03 AM (Pexsc)

245

@208 - I gave my dad a copy of "raising meat rabbits" from the survival blog.  He'd do it in a heartbeat; my mom wants no part of it.  They live a few states away from me and are on a meager fixed income.  I keep warning them about hyperinflation and the collapse, but they don't listen.

 

@210 - Thanks, Gran.m  He's a Moron at heart (the good kind).

 

 

Posted by: RushBabe at November 04, 2013 05:03 AM (hrIP5)

246 Posted by: mama winger at November 04, 2013 08:48 AM (P6QsQ) My mom is Facebook friendly with a lady in NYC. Said woman is nice enough until you get into politics, then she becomes a rabid liberal. She's been telling my mom for years how nuts we all are and racist and how fantastic Øcare was going to be. Well, this lady also has stage 4 cancer which is not in remission but is being controlled fairly well by her docs. Guess who just lost her insurance? Yep, this lady. She and her hubby are small business owners and had self-insured. They got the cancellation letter two weeks ago and went on the exchange to get more coverage. Over double the cost with a doubled deductible and co-pays, etc. Plus, not even one of the plans offered are taken by her doctors, specialists, or even her hospital of choice. This lady, who I do genuinely feel somewhat bad for because I don't wish death on anyone, is seriously pissed and greatly contrite. She emailed my mom last week to apologize for the years of political sniping and to tell mom that she (mom) was right.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 04, 2013 05:03 AM (qFpRI)

247 If this continues, you will discover that union folks are grandfathered without conditions. I think they need fresh legislation to have that occur. The usual RINO's will hop on the bipartisan bus and save their asses, while ignoring the tens of millions of non-union workers with the exact same 'problem'.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 04, 2013 05:03 AM (U2UQk)

248 Billy bring this, just a little??? Whaaa? hahaha That was supposed to be To belabor this.... Speech to text is easier than one-finger typing, but editing before posting is a must.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dumb as a stump at November 04, 2013 05:03 AM (WQhht)

249 Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 04, 2013 08:56 AM (t3UFN) Uhhh....uhhhh.... What now? I'm not an expert is this area...wait, no I am actually. "First Do No Harm" isn't a "principle" I've heard of very often articulated by any serious interlocutor. As a term it's usually in it's formal form: nonmaleficence. And even then it tends to apply only to patients. Consider the "4 principles" by Beauchamp and Childress, hallmarks in the field: Autonomy, beneficence, nonmaleficence and justice. Setting aside whether you agree with them in general, it's clear they aren't meant to apply to group such as prisoners. If this group (whoever they are, and I haven't heard of them before now) want to get to their point, they need to go via another direction. It's philosophically inconsistent to get there they way they're trying (unless they want to go ahead and destroy the research enterprise as a side effect.)

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 04, 2013 05:04 AM (GaqMa)

250 Mandy P. -

I'm so sorry for your moms' friend.  I don't care who people voted for - they should not have to die because of it.

Posted by: mama winger at November 04, 2013 05:05 AM (P6QsQ)

251 Max Collins, the mystery writer, has an interesting take on her, in a recent tale he wrote, name escapes me right now.

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 04, 2013 05:06 AM (2kpL8)

252 This lady, who I do genuinely feel somewhat bad for because I don't wish death on anyone, is seriously pissed and greatly contrite. She emailed my mom last week to apologize for the years of political sniping and to tell mom that she (mom) was right.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 04, 2013 09:03 AM (qFpRI)

 

A leftist who admits    her mistakes?   God bless   her, she's a rare breed.  

 

Being confronted with one's own mortality can    peel the scales    from  all but the most partisan of eyes.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 04, 2013 05:06 AM (4df7R)

253 I think they need fresh legislation to have that occur. The usual RINO's will hop on the bipartisan bus and save their asses, while ignoring the tens of millions of non-union workers with the exact same 'problem'. Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 04, 2013 09:03 AM (U2UQk) I wish I could remember where I saw it, but the language is already in there buried amongst the thosands of pages with regs that end with "TBD by the Secretary of HHS" or some such BS.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 05:07 AM (XIxXP)

254 I wish I could remember where I saw it, but the language is already in there buried amongst the thosands of pages with regs that end with "TBD by the Secretary of HHS" or some such BS.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 09:07 AM (XIxXP)

 

This is why Trumka and his merry band of malevolent misfits have stopped bitching.   Remember,   they were being noisy nabobs   over    the summer.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 04, 2013 05:08 AM (4df7R)

255 I'm so sorry for your moms' friend. I don't care who people voted for - they should not have to die because of it. Posted by: mama winger at November 04, 2013 09:05 AM (P6QsQ) That's why I felt physically ill when a mentally handicapped man at church came up and told me he'd voted for Obama in a tone that indicated he was a very good boy. This man lives in a group home and there's a good chance he *will* die for a vote he didn't even understand.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 05:08 AM (Pexsc)

256 124 How do you store 1500 pieces of art work in an apartment? Tupperware

Posted by: Anachronda at November 04, 2013 05:10 AM (U82Km)

257

So, can someone explain to me what the hell is going on with the Miami Dolphins and Richie Incognito?   It went from, "This is odd," to, "WTF?" in    less than 24 hours, and I still can't    get a handle on what the heck is happening.

 

I did love the tweet    Greeny read on Mike and Mike this morning,    which said something     to the effect   of,   "So the    veteran players are running an extortion ring against the rookies who don't have as much cash."   Greeny's response was, "That's a bit harsh," and my response to that   was,  "But 100% true."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 04, 2013 05:11 AM (4df7R)

258

I still think there's a strong probability that her death was an accidental overdose and/or a bad reaction between all the medications she was on.

 

That's my take, too.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2013 05:11 AM (zF6Iw)

259 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 08:43 AM (XIxXP) Thank you, itÂ’s hard to tell with some of the nics here. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 04, 2013 05:12 AM (z4WKX)

260 This man lives in a group home and there's a good chance he *will* die for a vote he didn't even understand.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 09:08 AM (Pexsc)


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I have a very sick feeling that hidden in all of the provisions of the Affordable Crap Act are incentives for parents and doctors to NOT proceed with pregnancies that may involve "the least of these".  And to deny treatment for those who do live.

Posted by: mama winger at November 04, 2013 05:12 AM (P6QsQ)

261 Thank you, itÂ’s hard to tell with some of the nics here. Carol Posted by: CarolT at November 04, 2013 09:12 AM (z4WKX) No problem, I was calling one of the ettes a he for a long time. Maybe our nics should be in pink or blue.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 05:13 AM (XIxXP)

262 It's these folks you really feel sorry for. Ogabe's mess just makes life all the more stressful. Also heard of another case where the parents of an infant with a chronic heart condition have been told they can no longer use their cardiologist's practice. Posted by: RushBabe at November 04, 2013 08:56 AM (hrIP5) Here's where I prove that the heartless comment about me is correct. My reaction to that piece is hey I bet those doctors still take cash. I will also admit that such a reaction stems from my pet peeve regarding the conflation of health care and health insurance. There is nothing legally preventing those people from going to those doctors and paying for it themselves. At least not yet. The issue is who will pay for it. Now, before the screaming and completely valid you heartless bitch comments start, I recognize that, as a practical matter, for many people health insurance is the determining factor as to whether they receive health care. Of course I do. Of course it's horrible that this is happening to those people. Of course it's terrible. Of course it is. It's just that this is precisely why my pet peeve exists. She lost her insurance and is now losing her health care because the payment for such treatment is entwined, kudzu like, with the treatment itself. This infuriates me because it is so unnecessary. Here's the huge divide between the Left and the Right, at least to me. I read that story and, setting aside my immediate ha ha see my pet peeve is right ha reaction, my response is that is horrible and is there anything that we can do as individuals to help raise the money so that she and others like her can pay for their treatment. Those on the Left read it and think see see the government has to fix it and ignore that the government made the problem in the first place.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 04, 2013 05:13 AM (VtjlW)

263 That's why I felt physically ill when a mentally handicapped man at church came up and told me he'd voted for Obama in a tone that indicated he was a very good boy. This man lives in a group home and there's a good chance he *will* die for a vote he didn't even understand.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 09:08 AM (Pexsc)

 

Disgraceful.    

 

My prayers will go out to everyone out there who is staring death in the face    now because of Obammycare.  I don't care your political stripes; life is a gift that's deserving of a fight regardless of    who you voted for.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 04, 2013 05:13 AM (4df7R)

264 Posted by: mama winger at November 04, 2013 09:05 AM (P6QsQ) Thanks, mama. I have had a few less than pleasant interactions with this woman before and I don't particularly care for her personally. But you're right that she shouldn't have to die because of this nightmare program. People make mistakes and we think she bought into the "share the wealth" lie largely because of her illness and the "cost-sharing" aspects were what appealed to her. I can see that it might be easy to buy into the idea of socialized programs when you're spending yourself into bankruptcy to stay alive. I don't think it makes it right, but at least I can understand how she might have arrived there. It is my understanding that she is not currently "sick" aside from the fact of cancer, but that if she doesn't get her care her life span (which is a few more years at this point if she continues in the generally good condition she's been in) is going to be greatly reduced because of this mess. The poor lady has to start all over with finding new docs and waiting to see new specialists and such. I can't imagine how horrible that has to be for her and her family.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 04, 2013 05:13 AM (qFpRI)

265 I have cancer. Obama voters get no sympathy from me at all. My interests are the only ones I look out for now. Reap. Sow.

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2013 05:15 AM (2VHEL)

266 Today, a section of the white population is preparing evacuation plans for when Mandela passes away. Jim Hoft, http://tinyurl.com/mk8b66r Posted by: panzernashorn But, no apartheid anymore! (What's the grim grin of irony smiley?)

Posted by: mindful webworker - dumb as a stump at November 04, 2013 05:17 AM (+kzsa)

267 Dump up.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 04, 2013 05:17 AM (VtjlW)

268 Posted by: mama winger at November 04, 2013 09:12 AM (P6QsQ) Doesn't need to be hidden in the ACA, it's already operable as a growing trend in medicine. The standard of care for down's syndrome these days might as well be abortion. (If memory serves the current rate is over 50%, might be above 75%.) This was not unpredicted. But the weirdoes who brush it off focus on the fact that we haven't entirely eliminated resources for those who carry the child to term. (And creepily even point to the Down's person on Glee as proof that there's no bad outcomes from this.) They don't pay attention to the "Yet" part though. It's coming, it just lags a bit behind the immediate implications.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 04, 2013 05:19 AM (GaqMa)

269 Those on the Left read it and think see see the government has to fix it and ignore that the government made the problem in the first place. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 04, 2013 09:13 AM (VtjlW) Then there is me. Healthcare or Health insurance is not a right and should not be subsidized. You would be surprised how much procedures go down in price when you offer cash. Those who have spent their lives refusing to work save or prepare for their future? It's the story of the ant and the grasshopper. I'll offer you meds for the pain so you can die in comfort. My exception to that is children.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 05:19 AM (XIxXP)

270 I've always thought it telling that the "Queen of Sex" died young while the "King of Sex" dodders along slowly showing the visibly repulsive aspect of his inner character.

 

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 09:03 AM (Pexsc)

 

Who's that?  Beatty or Nicholson?

 

Anyway, so far as the abortions, I don't know that a dozen is correct, but she certainly had plenty and did regret it, because she genuinely loved children.  But her lovers (not her husbands) loved sex more.  The writer Jim Goad once said something along the lines of her being, to men, nothing more than a talking vagina.  Which leads me to a nasty / sad story, which you're free to skip over.

 

It's unconfirmed (meaning that, while people have claimed to have been there or seen pictures, no real proof has turned up) that, towards the   "Mr. President" days, Marilyn and Frank Sinatra were at the Cal-Neva Lodge in Nevada.  Also there was mob boss Sam Giancana.  As a gift, a drugged-up, drunk-off-her-ass Marilyn was presented for Giancana's entertainment; pictures of the two in bed and (yuck) pictures of him riding her  as she crawled around the room  naked   on all fours  are said to exist.

 

How can you expect a living blowup doll to be normal in any way?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2013 05:19 AM (zF6Iw)

271 That's why I felt physically ill when a mentally handicapped man at church came up and told me he'd voted for Obama in a tone that indicated he was a very good boy. This man lives in a group home and there's a good chance he *will* die for a vote he didn't even understand. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 09:08 AM (Pexsc) Disgraceful. ItÂ’s a tragedy,and that someone used this poor man makes me want to knock them out.

Posted by: CarolT at November 04, 2013 05:19 AM (z4WKX)

272 "Maybe our nics should be in pink or blue." Denied!

Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 04, 2013 05:21 AM (qRD8F)

273 Denied! Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 04, 2013 09:21 AM (qRD8F) LOL

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 04, 2013 05:21 AM (XIxXP)

274 I really ought to change my nic some day. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing ----------------- I would miss the alliteration Posted by: Mike Hammer Marlin Perkins' Practically Perfect Piercing Don't even have to change the acronym.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dumb as a stump at November 04, 2013 05:24 AM (+kzsa)

275 I know this thread is dead, but thanks for the Marilyn video, MPPPP. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 04, 2013 05:27 AM (z4WKX)

276 If he could safely go to Syria and give a speech...everything would be just fine. Posted by: JB1000 at November 04, 2013 09:27 AM (16OL0) He should go to Syria!

Posted by: CarolT at November 04, 2013 05:28 AM (z4WKX)

277 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2013 09:19 AM (zF6Iw) Hugh Hefner. Can't believe he's still alive and crazy women still mount his repulsive toadlike body while living in dog crap.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 05:35 AM (Pexsc)

278 A leftist who admits her mistakes? God bless her, she's a rare breed. - MWR The old saying about lib is a consv who hasn't been mugged. They''ve been mugged en masse now. We''ll see how many awaken.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dumb as a stump at November 04, 2013 05:36 AM (G58bp)

279 ItÂ’s a tragedy,and that someone used this poor man makes me want to knock them out. Posted by: CarolT at November 04, 2013 09:19 AM (z4WKX) Exactly. This is a guy who introduces himself every time he sees someone either because he can't remember meeting them or (more likely in this case) as a kid someone told him to introduce himself when meeting people and he can't differentiate the two cases. I can pretty much guarantee that a worker at his group home told him to vote for Obama and in order to please them he voted for his own destruction.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2013 05:39 AM (Pexsc)

280 198 Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2013 08:44 AM (KvM9d) Fresh rabbit is fantastic. There is nothing like rabbit ragu over pappardelle! ------ We were really poor or frugal when I was growing up, but my favourite food was pigeon. It was so tender and good, but it took a lot of them to even make soup.

Posted by: Chilling the most at November 04, 2013 05:43 AM (gxtMZ)

281 258 I'm so sorry for your moms' friend. I don't care who people voted for - they should not have to die because of it. Posted by: mama winger at November 04, 2013 09:05 AM (P6QsQ) That's why I felt physically ill when a mentally handicapped man at church came up and told me he'd voted for Obama in a tone that indicated he was a very good boy. This man lives in a group home and there's a good chance he *will* die for a vote he didn't even understand. ---- Ugh! This past summer I was at a music festival where many mentally impaired people were picking up returnables to cash in for the deposit. It was disgusting to see these people cornered by DNC and union thugs and being told their only hope to keep their disability and other freebies was to vote for Obama. They were actually being scared.

Posted by: Chilling the most at November 04, 2013 05:56 AM (gxtMZ)

282 This lady, who I do genuinely feel somewhat bad for because I don't wish death on anyone, is seriously pissed and greatly contrite. She emailed my mom last week to apologize for the years of political sniping and to tell mom that she (mom) was right. Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 04, 2013 09:03 That's a miracle akin to the loaves and the fishes.

Posted by: Weirddave at November 04, 2013 05:57 AM (N/cFh)

283 @235, Old Sailors Poet/Palin and I quote.."If this continues you will find Unions are granfathered without conditions" When young people refuse to join, When I refuse to join, When people find out the IRS is nuteured and cant seize assets to make it work, if you are smart enough not to pay the tax, I used to give an interest free loan to Uncle Bammy, every year! This year I will end up owing $999.99. That has to hurt! No more free Obozo money from me, community organizer! He is like a libtard that just bought a gun, never having shot one, or grown up with them, then throws the safety instructions away and shoots his foot off! Obama care will go into the death spiral!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at November 04, 2013 06:43 AM (J4nln)

284 Americans who have newspaper subscriptions should call to cancel them, telling the papers that due to unexpected increases in Obamacare premiums they have to cut expenses

Posted by: kbdabear at November 04, 2013 07:20 AM (aTXUx)

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