November 06, 2013
— Gabriel Malor Whalp, that didn't come out right.
As I write, Mark Obenshain is behind by about 500 votes. This is the Virginia Attorney General race, and it's the only thing standing between us and a complete Democratic sweep. Obenshain is one of the reasons I went to the polls yesterday (although I voted for Cuccinelli too, as anyone should have expected given my posts for the last six years), and it looks like we're going to a recount to find out if he made it.
Ben Domenech had "10 lessons for the GOP from Cuccinelli's campaign" in yesterday's Transom and he made it available at the Federalist. I beg you, read it before you try and guess at what happened here in Virginia. His 2, 3, and 8 are what really killed it.
Oh, and despite the fantasies of people who, er, can't read, it wasn't that the party abandoned Cuccinelli. That would be comforting fantasy for Cuccinelli's folks, but it just doesn't work when you look at the actual numbers.
Updated to add: Geraghty's post-mortem this morning should definitely be read.
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Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:10 AM (zZbNF)
http://tinyurl.com/lovfysc
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:10 AM (zZbNF)
http://tinyurl.com/luuxwh2
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:11 AM (zZbNF)
Especially Goochland County, where 11 of 11 precincts reporting with Terry McAulliffe getting 100% of the vote.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 06, 2013 03:11 AM (RvyuE)
http://tinyurl.com/mz22jcp
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:11 AM (zZbNF)
http://tinyurl.com/ma2lu5a
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:11 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:11 AM (uf1pv)
http://tinyurl.com/lhtwxmb
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:12 AM (zZbNF)
Republicans got their asses handed to them last night, but we have Vic at the wheels of the S.S. News!
We got a better deal than the rest of the country....
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 06, 2013 03:13 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 06, 2013 03:13 AM (bHEwy)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:13 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:13 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: Ray Kelly at November 06, 2013 03:14 AM (vx61Q)
http://tinyurl.com/pp7z4h4
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:14 AM (zZbNF)
http://tinyurl.com/nz2ge6l
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:14 AM (zZbNF)
So the "D's" won large despite ass-raping Ø-Merica?
Guess we deserve it.
Posted by: backhoe at November 06, 2013 03:15 AM (ULH4o)
http://tinyurl.com/qy99ngg
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:15 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 06, 2013 03:15 AM (Jsiw/)
http://tinyurl.com/lv5qt8c
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:15 AM (zZbNF)
http://tinyurl.com/ma8fs3e
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:16 AM (zZbNF)
http://tinyurl.com/mrh7a6b
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:16 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:16 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 06, 2013 03:17 AM (bHEwy)
Posted by: MTF at November 06, 2013 03:17 AM (B+HTd)
This is no longer the country you -- and I, and most of the rest of us -- grew up in. We have to reconcile ourselves to the very real possibility it will never be that country again.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 06, 2013 03:17 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:19 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: NCKate at November 06, 2013 03:19 AM (2VHEL)
Ben Domenech had "10 lessons for the GOP from Cuccinelli's campaign" in yesterday's Transom and he made it available at the Federalist. I beg you, read it before you try and guess at what happened here in Virginia. His 2, 3, and 8 are what really killed it.
How about his 1?
In 2009, the RNC spent more than $9 million in Virginia to elect Bob McDonnell – this year, they’ve spent around $3 million, mostly targeted at fledgling minority-targeting efforts.
Cuccinelli expected he’d become a national election – he did for the Democrats, but not the Republicans.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2013 03:19 AM (kdS6q)
I have two words for you: U and Haul.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 06, 2013 03:20 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 06, 2013 03:20 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: blaster at November 06, 2013 03:20 AM (4+AaH)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:20 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: eman at November 06, 2013 03:21 AM (AO9UG)
That was JeffB. He's a troll. There's no point in reading his comments, let alone trying to argue them.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2013 03:22 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: blaster at November 06, 2013 03:22 AM (4+AaH)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:22 AM (uf1pv)
Don't expect me to argue with you, JJ.
If you want a lecture on fairness and "moderating our positions to pick up disaffected Democrats," Go to Gabe. Or Poppin' Fresh.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 06, 2013 03:23 AM (kaGpp)
http://tinyurl.com/klmlzwu Posted by: Vic
...............
I don't either, Vic. Do you?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 06, 2013 03:23 AM (b/lt+)
Christ. I've been snowed under with work for the past 36 hours, so I've been insulated from the news for a while.
The Dims will be nigh unbearable after last night.
Well, 239 years. We had a good run.
Posted by: Lone Marauder, utterly denounced at November 06, 2013 03:23 AM (eHBHk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:24 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: Kreplach at November 06, 2013 03:24 AM (0ETDE)
Posted by: eman at November 06, 2013 03:26 AM (AO9UG)
When are they going to bite the bullet and support a conservative?
And I have voted for my last RINO. The Republican Party has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:26 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: blaster at November 06, 2013 03:27 AM (4+AaH)
<I>The instinct is never to address a challenger's lies and thereby give them credence, but I guess it's high time to rethink that axiom, given what continues to be a very effective weapon against reason, logic and history (that being US).</I>
This, a thousand times. Conservatives are too nice. We need to start fighting back while there's a slim chance.
Posted by: Lone Marauder, utterly denounced at November 06, 2013 03:27 AM (eHBHk)
Obviously everyone has issues.
My only question regarding the Virginia result is, did the R candidate make a sufficient case for smaller government? If he did that, and he still lost, then that's Virginia's fault. If he did not, if the R party didn't support him enough, or he was going off on esoteric subjects, well, then that's the party/candidate's fault.
Either way, Virginia now has a first class scumbag for Governor. I wish them luck with that.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2013 03:27 AM (BeSEI)
This is no longer the country you -- and I, and most of the rest of us -- grew up in. We have to reconcile ourselves to the very real possibility it will never be that country again.
Posted by: MrScribbler
I hear you. And you are right. More's the pity.
Posted by: backhoe at November 06, 2013 03:28 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 07:11 AM (uf1pv)
They need to get a runoff system in place. That is the only way to deal with these phony Libertarian candidates in close elections.
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:28 AM (zZbNF)
Speaking of Japan, talk about First World Problems of surpassing magnitude.
http://www.ufunk.net/en/gadgets/japan-burger-packaging/
Cute Japanese weather girls in kawaii costumes giving US weather reports. This would certainly boost morning TV ratings in the US.
http://tinyurl.com/n3z8w5b
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:28 AM (JA4pL)
The ad campaign claimed it was to ensure that money was spent in the classroom and not on administration. Guess a lot of voters felt the same as I did: why not apply those reforms to the money you already have instead of asking for 950 million more?
Posted by: Lizzy at November 06, 2013 03:30 AM (RvyuE)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 06, 2013 07:23 AM (b/lt+)
Its a tool just like any other.
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:31 AM (zZbNF)
Oh.
Oh my.
BRB. Bunk
Posted by: Sean Bannion [/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 06, 2013 03:31 AM (6T8Ay)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 06, 2013 03:32 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:33 AM (uf1pv)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/kym6gnc
Posted by: Lizzy at November 06, 2013 03:33 AM (RvyuE)
Posted by: Darth Cobalt Shiva, Sith Lord at November 06, 2013 03:34 AM (OY/SZ)
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:34 AM (zZbNF)
My work is done.
Back to writing. San Francisco Maru and all that.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:35 AM (JA4pL)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 06, 2013 03:37 AM (bHEwy)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 03:37 AM (23Kgq)
Posted by: Bigby's Thumb at November 06, 2013 03:37 AM (a3Nqc)
Posted by: Blacksheep at November 06, 2013 03:37 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at November 06, 2013 03:38 AM (31pAb)
Posted by: Gem at November 06, 2013 03:38 AM (zw+pb)
Just wait, the pundits and RNC will say they lost VA because they did not get the Hispanic vote.
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:38 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:38 AM (uf1pv)
Edsel Ford designed the original Lincoln Continental, which appeared in 1939.
For that alone, he deserves a spot on Mt. Rushmore.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 06, 2013 03:40 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 06, 2013 03:40 AM (8JJ6O)
It's not that they do not make a good case, it's that no case is made, at all, regarding the numbers. Okay, fine, Geraghty provides the numbers spent in this race. That is meaningless, completely meaningless, without comparison to numbers spent in prior races in VA and, possibly, numbers for races spent in other close gubernatorial contests. Telling me but but but we spent X tells me nothing at all about if that X represents reduced, static or increased spending. Saying well the DGA spent nothing in NJ is a ridiculous comparison because NJ was not within reach. Hell, the Dem could probably argue that was a self-fulfilling prophecy. You think I couldn't win so you didn't give me money to see if I could win.
I would like to see a comparison of past support v. current support in VA and support in other competitive governor races v. this race before I reach any conclusion as to the money issue.
Posted by: alexthechick - Mmmm Snickers at November 06, 2013 03:40 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 06, 2013 03:40 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Myron at November 06, 2013 03:41 AM (wRqX8)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:42 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: NCKate at November 06, 2013 03:42 AM (2VHEL)
Posted by: Myron at November 06, 2013 03:42 AM (wRqX8)
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 06, 2013 03:43 AM (MhA4j)
I think we're made ourselves clear.
We would rather tank a race in a swing state like Virgina, than allow a conservative to become Governor. Meanwhile, amusing ourselves shoveling millions into the maw of our liberal favorite over in New Jersey to run up the score.
We hope we shan't have to repeat this lesson again? Now write your checks and be quiet, you mouth-breathing laborers.
Posted by: The Republican Party
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2013 03:43 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:43 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: Myron at November 06, 2013 03:44 AM (wRqX8)
No offense to him, but that updated piece more or less guts the numbers that he used in his other piece that Gabe linked. All it does is provide factual support for those of us who state, accurately, that the RNC did not help at nearly the level that was given previously.
If your support drops by 2/3, you cannot possibly argue that you gave anything approaching a comparatively level of support. You can't. You can attempt to explain why but you cannot tell me that your financial support did not drop precipitously when it did.
Posted by: alexthechick - Mmmm Snickers at November 06, 2013 03:45 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Andrew at November 06, 2013 03:45 AM (lyvVo)
Does that not tell you something?
Screams to me that the establishment GOP is merely a wing of the Democrat/Socialists.
The US is for all intents and purposes a one-party political state, dedicated to bigger and more powerful government and the abandonment of our Constitution.
I think that many here now realize this, difficult as it may be to accept.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:45 AM (uf1pv)
They painted Romney as an extremist and thanks to the wonderful advice of Karl Rove they did not answer it. I don't know where they got the idea that Karl Rove was a master political adviser.
Bush won because the Dems fielded shitty candidates, not because of anything Rove did.
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:45 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 03:45 AM (23Kgq)
Posted by: DangerGirl at November 06, 2013 03:46 AM (4+PCd)
1. Sarvis
2. Eric Cantor
3. Rove
4. RINO Bolling
5. Mayor of Virginia Beach
Posted by: Myron at November 06, 2013 03:47 AM (wRqX8)
Posted by: MTF at November 06, 2013 03:47 AM (B+HTd)
Posted by: blindside at November 06, 2013 03:47 AM (WzWmY)
Posted by: Myron at November 06, 2013 03:48 AM (wRqX8)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 06, 2013 03:48 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Myron at November 06, 2013 03:49 AM (wRqX8)
Posted by: mindful webworker - concerned citizen at November 06, 2013 03:49 AM (zEeUf)
Posted by: eman at November 06, 2013 03:50 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: MTF at November 06, 2013 03:50 AM (B+HTd)
Posted by: BIF at November 06, 2013 03:50 AM (t3bcy)
Posted by: Myron at November 06, 2013 03:50 AM (wRqX8)
Posted by: Blacksheep at November 06, 2013 03:50 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:51 AM (uf1pv)
And how much did the Dems spend in VA?
How much effort did they spend in nationalizing McAuliffe's candidacy?
The state and national GOP abandoned Cuccinelli in a very passive-aggressive manner.
Posted by: @JohnTant at November 06, 2013 03:51 AM (F3IIA)
The RNC has a total of seven paid staffers dedicated to engaging minority communities and have attended numerous events on behalf of the Republican Party.
That is throwing money in a hole.
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:52 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Myron at November 06, 2013 03:52 AM (wRqX8)
Posted by: Andrew at November 06, 2013 03:53 AM (lyvVo)
Posted by: montel at November 06, 2013 03:53 AM (o3WMq)
Posted by: mindful webworker - sure, sure at November 06, 2013 03:53 AM (zEeUf)
Posted by: Myron at November 06, 2013 07:48 AM (wRqX
Gore had the Clinton albatross around his neck. Clinton had not yet been resurrected.
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 03:53 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Myron at November 06, 2013 03:53 AM (wRqX8)
I said this before and I'll say it again: McAulliffe's number one job is to stump for Hillary in 2016. That's it. He's to use his governor position to ensure Hillary gets VA, in the nominee race as well as the presidential elections.
It's all about Hillary.
Now, we Virginians get four years of a corrupt shithead who's never an any executive experience ever.
Posted by: MacGruber at November 06, 2013 03:53 AM (sWgE+)
Greetings, political Quincys.
So, NJ, NYC and VA are screwed this fine morning, eh? May they all enjoy their self-inflicted wounds.
SNAFU, y'all.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 06, 2013 03:54 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 06, 2013 03:54 AM (JDIKC)
"Edsel Ford designed the original Lincoln Continental, which appeared in 1939."
Edsel's first son was Henry II (the Deuce). His second son was originally named Edsel II, but later renamed Benson. Benson went on to run the Mercury division then (due to his drinking) he ran the dealer relations for Lincoln.
Benson's liver gave out fairly young, but his wife carried on the tradition. When my wife and I were first married, we had occasion to hammer Bloody Marys at 8am with Edith Ford on board her yacht the Onika.
Posted by: jwest at November 06, 2013 03:54 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:55 AM (uf1pv)
The state and national GOP abandoned Cuccinelli in a very passive-aggressive manner.
Apparently the claim now is they loved him and supported him with all their hearts.
And noted fatass Chris Christie is strutting like a corpulent peacock, claiming that he and his massive corruption are the future of the GOP.
The thing is, that's the past, present, and likely future of the GOP.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2013 03:55 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: Myron at November 06, 2013 03:55 AM (wRqX8)
Posted by: mindful webworker - be sure to recycle at November 06, 2013 03:56 AM (zEeUf)
Posted by: blindside at November 06, 2013 03:56 AM (WzWmY)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:57 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: Darth Randall at November 06, 2013 03:57 AM (Zswg6)
I believe you are correct. Still, Virginians have to feel the sting of a Maryland-Detroit-Chicago-Oakland ass rape.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:58 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: mindful webworker - justice for George! at November 06, 2013 03:58 AM (zEeUf)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:59 AM (uf1pv)
--
Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. Are there any states that have been trending red? Not already red, but trending. I can't think of any offhand. I think the thing that bothers me the most about McAwful's win (and I don't live in VA) is that I'm always hoping in the back of my mind that there is a sign of repudiation of Democrats and the ruination they are causing. Alas, too many still don't see it that way. And, of course, the article yesterday saying Hispanics came out big for McA. And here we have the R's on the precipice of amnesty. We are well and truly screwed.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 06, 2013 03:59 AM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 06, 2013 03:59 AM (HEa5q)
I heard Cuccinelli lost because passed a law that made birth control illegal and forced all women to get clitordectomies. By the way - I heard that HERE.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff
I expect to hear sometime today he lost because of Michele Bachmann.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2013 04:00 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:00 AM (uf1pv)
We could run a woman who uses birth control and had 20 abortions - and they would still paint her as a religious nutbag who wants to take away your brith control pills.
It's just a matter of how much pain will be inflicted on Americans until they stop worrying about the sideshow.
Posted by: realityman at November 06, 2013 04:00 AM (Cs9Ps)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 06, 2013 04:00 AM (bHEwy)
Posted by: Blacksheep at November 06, 2013 04:00 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: mindful webworker - funny guy at November 06, 2013 04:00 AM (zEeUf)
Posted by: eman at November 06, 2013 04:00 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:00 AM (uf1pv)
is it me or is Dem support among single women becoming as lockstep as the black vote?
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016
Unmarried mothers. Uncle Sam becomes their Baby Daddy and they vote accordingly.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2013 04:01 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Vic
..............
So, is tracking guns in a national database. A tool. A simple tool. What could go wrong?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 06, 2013 04:01 AM (b/lt+)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:02 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 06, 2013 04:02 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone at November 06, 2013 04:03 AM (itW3M)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 04:03 AM (23Kgq)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:03 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2013 04:03 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 06, 2013 04:04 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: NCKate at November 06, 2013 04:04 AM (2VHEL)
Oh, and Geraghty...the RNC spending $2mm is really small potatoes. They were outspent, plain and simple. Hell, I believe the NRA spent pretty close to that on their own.
And so now the Establishment, predictably, is trying to say they did everything they could so gullible conservatives would come back to their side. Not going to happen for me.
Posted by: @JohnTant at November 06, 2013 04:05 AM (F3IIA)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 06, 2013 04:05 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 04:06 AM (23Kgq)
Posted by: Al Franken at November 06, 2013 04:06 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:07 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: blindside at November 06, 2013 04:07 AM (WzWmY)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 06, 2013 04:07 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 06, 2013 04:07 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:07 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 06, 2013 04:07 AM (HEa5q)
Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. Are there any states that have been trending red?
Here's the winning formula:
1) Democrats win a few elections in a state.
2) The GOP says, "We need to run moderates! The state is turning purple!"
3) GOP runs moderates. Moderates suck at governing, do Democrat things but without the big handouts. They lose because low-tax social liberalism is the ultimate shit position in politics. Easy to make them look bad because they are in bed with Big Business, which is less popular than Herpes. They still get tarred as ultra-conservatives.
4) State turns blue, GOP declares it 'lost' like it was taken by zombies. Efforts go to support moderate candidates in purple states.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2013 04:08 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 06, 2013 08:07 AM (JDIKC)
We'll always have Canada
Posted by: Sean Bannion [/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 06, 2013 04:09 AM (6T8Ay)
http://tinyurl.com/lhtwxmb
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 07:12 AM (zZbNF)
Saw this on the Tulsa news last night. He is a really good guy--so those among the Horde that pray, please pray for Senator Coburn. I will be.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 06, 2013 04:09 AM (kXoT0)
NJ is not any more screwed than we already were. ;^) If the Dem had won as Governor that would have been worse as she was way out there.
Point taken, FS.
On a much smaller note, one of the Pubbies who won in Alabama yesterday is an old elementary schoolmate of mine from Mobile. He's been in the state legislature for a few years, a "moderate."
He taught me how to wiggle my ears when we were in the fourth grade.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 06, 2013 04:09 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: joncelli at November 06, 2013 04:09 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2013 04:10 AM (g1DWB)
I need breakfast. Who's cooking?
Posted by: shredded chi
Navy beans cooked with smoked hamhocks
and buttermilk cooled in an old stone crock
and a big round onion and cracklin' bread
and a big cherry cobbler, ain't that enough said?
Yum yum!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2013 04:10 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:11 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 06, 2013 04:12 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 06, 2013 04:12 AM (bHEwy)
Posted by: Boone at November 06, 2013 04:12 AM (CP1s7)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:13 AM (uf1pv)
http://tinyurl.com/qy99ngg
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 07:15 AM (zZbNF)
Yep, those jobs will be filled by illegals getting the old minimum wage or even slightly less in cash. The work still has to be done, but, durn that old math, if there exists only X dollars to pay for work WORTH X dollars, then, passing a law to said that work is now WORTH X+.25X means nada, zip, zilch, and zero.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 06, 2013 04:13 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 06, 2013 04:13 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:13 AM (uf1pv)
Will endorsed Sarvis? Well at least he's consistent. He also backs the Cubs.
Losers flock together.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2013 04:14 AM (BeSEI)
I looked at "the actual numbers" article you linked, Gabe. Here' what it said.
"As of Friday, Cuccinelli raised $19.7 million; McAuliffe raised $34.4 million. You cannot get outraised by $15 million and hope to win a statewide race."
What the fuck are you talking about, you snarky fucking asshole?
Posted by: Randall Hoven at November 06, 2013 04:14 AM (VoY8w)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 04:14 AM (23Kgq)
Re #77.
Damn. At the risk of attracting the hammer, shooting wars started over less.
Is there anything that isn't ban-able or arrest-able that common citizens can do to stop this trend of assault by law enforcement? What recourse is left us if the government and its lackeys will go this far?
Posted by: Azenogoth at November 06, 2013 04:15 AM (f6ZLT)
Posted by: Alexander Fraser Tytler at November 06, 2013 04:15 AM (5ikDv)
I love the argument too that Cucinelli 'cheated' when the rules were changed back to a caucus. I'm old enough to remember when people railed that the primary process was resulting in candidates that were too right-wing (like Angle and O'Donnell), and we needed the sanity of a caucus where cooler heads and political insiders could make decisions because they know what is best.
I also love the Known Fact(tm) that Bolling would have won a primary. It's amazing how things always go according to plan if we take the opposite path.
It's almost as if the rules need to take whatever candidate the moderates think will win and make him the nominee. Why oh why do these pesky 'purists' insist on doing things and having opinions? Can't they just be zombies that vote for what we desire?
Aw fuck it. I don't even care anymore. Hopefully somebody creates an actual opposition party. Until then we're screwed.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2013 04:15 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 06, 2013 04:15 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:15 AM (uf1pv)
My take on license plate readers and cameras in general is whatever makes the local, state or federal beast closer to omniscience is bad.
Total camera coverage makes the man who has to take a leak in the woods by himself into a sex offender.
Posted by: Typo Dynamofo at November 06, 2013 04:15 AM (FtCW+)
Posted by: montel at November 06, 2013 04:15 AM (o3WMq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 04:16 AM (23Kgq)
George Will endorsed Sarvis.
Posted by: Boone
The case for Sarvis
By Jennifer Rubin
Washington Post October 25
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2013 04:17 AM (kdS6q)
AMNESTY NOW!
Posted by: GOP Braintrust at November 06, 2013 04:17 AM (5ikDv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:17 AM (uf1pv)
One wonders when we'll see a genuine conservative candidate, one who'll embrace honest capitalism, individual responsibility, a smaller government, the Constitution as it's written and a strong national defense.
And who has the cojones to stand up to the Leftard Lies with good humor.
I'ma gonna hold my breath now...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 06, 2013 04:18 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: eman at November 06, 2013 04:18 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 06, 2013 04:18 AM (bHEwy)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 06, 2013 04:18 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:18 AM (uf1pv)
Wow the nonendorsements keep coming. Seems like the blue bloods are always on that side. Almost like a trend.
But it's the Tea Party causing the civil war.
Posted by: Typo Dynamofo at November 06, 2013 04:18 AM (FtCW+)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2013 04:18 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 06, 2013 04:19 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Boone
The case for Sarvis
By Jennifer Rubin
Washington Post October 25
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2013 08:17 AM (kdS6q)
Bah, who would ever think of George Will or Jennifer Rubin as being in any way Establishment Republicans?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2013 04:19 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 06, 2013 08:07 AM (kXoT0
Don't forget pulling the war on women bullshit that makes people like ace freak out and believe everything about it hook line and sinker, and scares the GOP so they won't fund the campaign. They will continue to pull this shit. They will pull this shit on a Republican even if he were to have an F rating from the Right to Life.
Posted by: buzzion at November 06, 2013 04:19 AM (LI48c)
And I have voted for my last RINO. The Republican Party has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 07:26 AM (zZbNF)
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I agree 100% (actually, 300% because my wife and mother-in-law are LIVs and depend on me to help them decide who to vote for, for which I'm grateful).
Posted by: RoadRunner at November 06, 2013 04:19 AM (XrGnJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:20 AM (uf1pv)
>>Oh, wait...
I don't remember either voting for it the first time and as weak as they are on many issues I think they might be smart enough to see that voting against a law that the vast majority of the public, not just conservatives, hate might be a pretty good idea.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2013 08:18 AM (g1DWB)
Obamacare is the law of the land.
Posted by: Shit John McCain has actually said at November 06, 2013 04:20 AM (LI48c)
And as JJ point out, this did not help either...
**
The biggest reason Cuccinelli lost has nothing to do with him as a candidate.
Sarvis was a Democrat plant, bought and paid for by a SCOAMF bundler out of Austin, TX.
If the election were held next week, given all the Obamacare crap hitting the fan and a week for the real libertarians to be informed, he would have won it in a walk.
THAT should be the real focus of how not to let that happen going forward.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 07:11 AM (uf1pv)
**
JeffB's head essploding in 3..2..after all its the quality of the candidate stupid!! As if McCauliff is a paragon of truth and virtue.
Posted by: dananjcon at November 06, 2013 04:21 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Typo Dynamofo at November 06, 2013 04:21 AM (FtCW+)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 06, 2013 04:22 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 06, 2013 04:22 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: MItch McConnell at November 06, 2013 04:22 AM (5ikDv)
Looks like the Long Dong Silver of the internets.Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:22 AM (uf1pv)
And we should just quietly let politics be run by smart insiders who know how to win elections... like Senator Brown, Senator Berg, Senator Thompson, Senator Mack, Senator Wilson, Senator Allen, Senator Rehberg, Senator Fiorina, Senator DeWine, Senator Wilson, Governor McKenna, and of course, President McCain.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 06, 2013 04:23 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:23 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 04:23 AM (23Kgq)
Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone at November 06, 2013 04:23 AM (itW3M)
Here's some more math for you fucking political fantasy league fanboi geniuses:
Your "dead man walking" finished less than 3 points behind, even being massively outspent and with a spoiler candidate diluting the vote.
Tell me some more about my reading comprehension skills, professor.
They got that covered, EoJ: It's because of the lousy ObamaCare rollout. People saw that and got so enraged they forgot that Cucinnelli wanted to eat their tampons.
They have done nothing wrong. Every decision they make has always been perfectly correct.
This was the worst loss in history, the GOP ran the worst candidate imaginable. It was Bolling's turn.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2013 04:24 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 06, 2013 04:24 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Ian S. at November 06, 2013 04:25 AM (102Hx)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:25 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: jeannebodine at November 06, 2013 04:26 AM (2LJqa)
I counted all the campaign mail I received in the last couple of months. I received about eight times more mail from the McAwful campaign than the Cuccinelli campaign.
All of the McAwful ads were attack ads; Cuccinelli's ads focused on his business endorsements and work as AG.
The worst part was shoulder surfing the wife's facebook feed and seeing the amount of people - grown adults with kids mind you - in the area who voted for Sarvis because they didn't like the two candidates.
I hate people. Democrats especially, but as of now, pretty much all people are on my hate list.
Posted by: MacGruber at November 06, 2013 04:26 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 06, 2013 04:26 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:26 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 06, 2013 04:27 AM (bHEwy)
Sarvis was a Democrat plant, bought and paid for by a SCOAMF bundler out of Austin, TX.
And curiously not revealed until election day. Funny, that.
Your MFM atwerk.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 06, 2013 04:27 AM (0HooB)
But of course, let's let Karl Rove tell us how Todd Akin, Sharon Angle and Christine O'Donnell could never ever ever win.
The 2012 Election isn't over yet! We have this sewn up!
Posted by: Karl Rove at November 06, 2013 04:27 AM (TpXEI)
I don't like Christie but he has this particular important point down: Be socially conservative, don't push it so hard on everyone else. It's a free country, or it used to be. We don't like having moral relativism shoved down our throats, moral proselytizing tastes the same to them.
Tell that to the gays.
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2013 04:27 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Ian S. at November 06, 2013 04:28 AM (102Hx)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 06, 2013 04:28 AM (659DL)
Kudos. With bacon. (or Fake-on, if you are kosher)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 08:15 AM (uf1pv)
** Why, thanks, J.J.! Curtsies demurely, straightens her green eyeshade, and munches on the bacon... **
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 06, 2013 04:28 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:28 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone at November 06, 2013 04:28 AM (itW3M)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 04:28 AM (23Kgq)
Most people I talked to in Virginia were all about how he hated gays, wanted to ban blow jobs, and would force women to have rape babies.
It doesn't matter if any of that was true or not -- he said one stupid thing (the bill regarding when life starts), and that should have made him ineligible in any rational person's mind to win a state-wide election in a purple/blue state. People didn't think that he would be demonized and have that parlayed to low-information voters or to convince people who vote hot-button social issues to come and vote against him. They were wrong, now we have Gov. McAuliffe.
Posted by: Matt S. at November 06, 2013 04:29 AM (PDTch)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2013 04:29 AM (EJ/Tn)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 06, 2013 08:27 AM (bHEwy)
The fact that a Dem was his major backer (and that two 'Republican' columnists endorsed him) should indicate which party he drew from.
Low-info moderate Republicans like to vote for capital-L Libertarians.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2013 04:29 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 06, 2013 04:29 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 06, 2013 04:30 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 04:30 AM (uf1pv)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 06, 2013 04:31 AM (IV4od)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2013 04:31 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Matt S. at November 06, 2013 04:31 AM (m7EhJ)
Posted by: eman at November 06, 2013 04:31 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2013 08:27 AM (sxq57)
When people say 'Social conservatives should not push their beliefs' they are really saying is, 'Give up on abortion and don't oppose the Gay Mafia.'
It's similar logic to the Amnesty pushers - they'll love us if we change our policies.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2013 04:32 AM (TpXEI)
Republicans won 67 of the 100 seats in the House of Delegates.
Let's not read too much into this thing.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 06, 2013 08:28 AM (659DL) <<
The problem is McAwful will use the governorship as a bully pulpit for Hillary. That is his main - no, only - goal. To get Hillary into the White House.
Anything else is gravy. And trust me, the House of Delegates isn't going to stop him from trying to pull VA as left as possible. That's the plan - you swing for the fences, but if you end up with a single or a double. No biggie. Let the next guy drive in the run.
That's how they "progess" - ask for the moon but are OK with little incremental progress. Before you know it, VA will be like CA or NY.
Posted by: MacGruber at November 06, 2013 04:32 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Ian S. at November 06, 2013 04:32 AM (102Hx)
I'm afraid you'll have to be suspended, B Boy.
*surrenders Pop Tart chewed into the shape of an anvil*
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 06, 2013 04:32 AM (0HooB)
Someone said upthread that Libertarians are not conservatives. I see them as two types; conservatives and libertines.
The libertine wing could care less about anything that doesn't stop the partying. But if someone said you once disapprove of something they enjoy you are a hateful Nazi.
Posted by: Typo Dynamofo at November 06, 2013 04:33 AM (FtCW+)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 08:00 AM (uf1pv)
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I saw that first thing when I logged on the AM. Love it!
Also saw Vic. Love that too!
Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 04:33 AM (P6QsQ)
Still think you don't have a dog in the fight over the War on (Some) Drugs? Don't go to WalMart in Deming NM.
http://tinyurl.com/maz9lqq
Later roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 06, 2013 04:34 AM (yh0zB)
It doesn't matter if any of that was true or not -- he said one stupid thing (the bill regarding when life starts), and that should have made him ineligible in any rational person's mind to win a state-wide election in a purple/blue state.
Except he won statewide election in a 'purple/blue' state.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2013 04:34 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: soothsayer explains it all at November 06, 2013 04:35 AM (LEzhz)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 06, 2013 04:35 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 06, 2013 08:31 AM
Don't use Teh Tweets, but still get him in my email "spam" folder, even though I can't remember ever signing up for anything that should have put me on his list....
Leave the Republican party to him, Poppin' Fresh, Rich Lowry and the rest of the Eunuchs of Inside Baseball anal-ysts. They deserve each other.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 06, 2013 04:35 AM (kaGpp)
Bevel...That's exactly right. Fuck it. Since there's no winning with these assholes, I might as well go scorched earth.
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2013 04:35 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 06, 2013 04:35 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Fabulous lJesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 06, 2013 04:35 AM (mpTrn)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 06, 2013 04:36 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Ian S. at November 06, 2013 04:36 AM (102Hx)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 06, 2013 04:36 AM (VtjlW)
>>Most people I talked to in Virginia were all about how he hated gays, wanted to ban blow jobs, and would force women to have rape babies.<<
I wonder why they thought that? Oh yeah, the DNC and McAwful paid good money to make them think that.
Posted by: MacGruber at November 06, 2013 04:36 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 08:23 AM (23Kgq)
Actually there were 4...you can add me to the list and my mother relayed that she, too, voted against it.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2013 08:29 AM (EJ/Tn)
**
Ahem...5.
Voted no on the gambling proceeds to veterans as well. To be honest didn't know all the details of it and did not research it. So NO, gotta figure the devil is in the details on ALL ballot initiatives.
Did the measure pass?
Posted by: dananjcon at November 06, 2013 04:37 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: buzzion at November 06, 2013 08:19 AM (LI48c)
Yeah, having been an actual owner/operator of a vagina my whole d@mn life, I worry exactly zero about any Republican intervention regarding my owning and operating of said object. Just how dumb does a woman have to be to believe that horsepuckey? All the LIV gals who get stampeded by vagina politics, relax, just say that your vagina's monologue is now QUESTIONING and any interference with its mutterings and maunderings is a f@ching HATE CRIME, thank you very much and have a super fabulous day!
Why can't these LIV twits realize that the only political group with actual designs on what they may or may not do with their lady bits is Islam. Those jolly old boys will for durn sure cut a bitch.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 06, 2013 04:37 AM (kXoT0)
-- I thought that was before the personhood law?
Posted by: Matt S. at November 06, 2013 04:37 AM (m7EhJ)
Harris County, TX proposal to issue $217 million in redevelopment bonds for the Astrodome (the 8th wonder of the world in 1965) fails to pass by 16,500 votes out of 240,300 cast on the measure. The prop loses 46.6% to 53,4%.
Make your peace with the Astrodome being torn down.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 06, 2013 04:37 AM (BAS5M)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Wars
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 04:37 AM (JA4pL)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2013 08:31 AM (g1DWB)
I am confident in the Republican Party's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of any threatened victory.
And now I really am off to bed. Later roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 06, 2013 04:37 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone at November 06, 2013 04:38 AM (itW3M)
Posted by: Brendan at November 06, 2013 04:38 AM (lwV0R)
I wonder why they thought that? Oh yeah, the DNC and McAwful paid good money to make them think that.
One would think that a simple, "That's absurd," actually said out loud by someone, would defuse that.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 06, 2013 04:39 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Ian S. at November 06, 2013 04:40 AM (102Hx)
Posted by: RWC at November 06, 2013 04:40 AM (fWAjv)
Not just the money but some "loyal" Republican moderates openly supported McOffal and worked for his campaign. Yet it's the cons who need to shut up and vote party line when a Rino is the candidate.
Bucket-O'Lard Christy will never win a national election as a gun banner and neither will any other Rinos. Hi Mittens.
Posted by: The Dead Taint of Helen Thomas at November 06, 2013 04:40 AM (rXcBX)
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Please stop using facts and logic, dear. Appparently election analysis is now more about myth than math.
Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 04:40 AM (P6QsQ)
And while they are doing this, the Democrats are playing, "F--k your stupid chess game," and raising money from celebrities and billionaires so they can run ads claiming every Republican candidate is Ariel Castro.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 06, 2013 04:41 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 06, 2013 04:41 AM (kXoT0)
I'm sure the horror that McAwful will visit on the Commonwealth will be somewhat muted from the comfort of mom's basement.
Posted by: Jaws at November 06, 2013 04:42 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Matt S. at November 06, 2013 04:42 AM (m7EhJ)
jimgeraghty â€Â@jimgeraghty
How much money do Republicans want the RNC throwing in to help a candidate trailing by 7 or 8 or 9 points?
Oh say, enough to persuade 50000 voters? Sound about right?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2013 04:42 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 06, 2013 04:42 AM (qFpRI)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2013 04:43 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 06, 2013 04:43 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 06, 2013 08:42 AM (qFpRI)
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You mean, that isn't true? But I was told just last night......
Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 04:44 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 06, 2013 04:44 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2013 04:46 AM (EJ/Tn)
Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 04:46 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: RWC at November 06, 2013 04:46 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: jwb7605[/i][/u][/b] at November 06, 2013 04:47 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 06, 2013 04:47 AM (8JJ6O)
Gotta wonder if that's how Teh Honorable Martin J. Walsh got the leg-shot he was touting in one of his teevee commercials.
I figured he got clipped while staggering out of a packie but hey, that's just me....
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 06, 2013 04:47 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 06, 2013 04:47 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 06, 2013 04:48 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 06, 2013 04:48 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 06, 2013 04:48 AM (8JJ6O)
Those 31 dems had more to do with still being pissed about Lincoln and the Civil War than about being the socialist shitbags they are today. Apples and oranges.
Posted by: Jaws at November 06, 2013 04:48 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 06, 2013 04:48 AM (qFpRI)
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raises hand, shouts "ME ! ME!"
Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 04:48 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: RWC at November 06, 2013 04:49 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: SH at November 06, 2013 04:49 AM (ma3QC)
Since the civil war, Virginia has had 31 Democrat governors and only 8 GOP governors. It's hardly a solid red state.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale
How about we don't include the pre-civil rights realignment of parties era?
Now 6 and 6 in the modern political era, post 1970.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2013 04:49 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 06, 2013 04:50 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 06, 2013 04:50 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 06, 2013 08:44 AM (ZshNr)
**
I'm just happy Bigfoot survived.
**Sniff**
I love that guy.
Posted by: dananjcon at November 06, 2013 04:50 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 06, 2013 08:39 AM (0HooB)
Nope, considering that sex education now starts in early grade school with a carefully crafted message of "Boys and Girls, we want you to have sex, lots and lots of safe, happy, happy sex with your special someone using a free school supplied condom."
Followed in junior high by, "Susie, what is your favorite condom color? Are we giving you and Bobby enough free condoms? If the condom fails, you can get that mistake corrected UNLESS an evil Republican does something to you."
Then driven home in high school and college with, "Susie, now that you are having lots and lots of safe, happy sex with all comers, show me on the doll where the evil Republicans want to control your body?"
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 06, 2013 04:50 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 06, 2013 04:50 AM (qFpRI)
Posted by: Ian S. at November 06, 2013 04:51 AM (102Hx)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 06, 2013 04:51 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: blaster at November 06, 2013 04:51 AM (W6bkf)
Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 06, 2013 04:52 AM (2kpL8)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 06, 2013 04:52 AM (JDIKC)
Heated Conversations on this very blog in recent days would prove that presumption to be very wrong, unfortunately. Apparently acknowledging the scientific facts about when human life begins = WE'RE COMING FOR YOUR VAGINAS, BITCHES!!!
Sadly so.
Truth is the first casualty of war. And, as has been mentioned here before, we're in a cold Civil War with the Left.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 06, 2013 04:52 AM (0HooB)
SHOCK!!! You mean that gabe continually lies about shit he posts. He's just like obama.
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2013 04:52 AM (sxq57)
Hell, AtC, dudes do the same (well, except that we use our Man-bits), only the opportunities don't seem to come along as often.
I won't mention candidates' names, as one or two seem to have been Commenter Favorites© at one time or another.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 06, 2013 04:52 AM (kaGpp)
I would rather have someone shout, "How stupid do you have to be to believe this shit?"
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 06, 2013 04:53 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 06, 2013 04:53 AM (SUKHu)
>>but we really need to look into recruiting and grooming candidates that fit their districts/states better so that single statements don't turn off huge chunks of the electorate.<<
First, look at the returns. McAwful won by a very small margin. Cuccinelli didn't turn off "huge chunks of the electorate."
Second, McAwful doesn't really fit any district in the state of VA. He's a DNC insider who was planted and groomed to win the VA governor seat to help make VA blue (in general) and help Hillary specifically.
Lastly, the problem was money. McAwful and his DNC corporate power spent a shitload of money to make low information voters think Cuccinelli was a misogynist who would enslave the gays.
For crying out loud, the NOVA Tech Group was ready to hand their endorsement to McAwful but McAwful was so fucking bad, and Cuccinelli was so prepared and thoughtful, that they switched.
McAwful didn't care. Why? The DNC has a new strategy that is paying good dividends: spend a lot of money on lies. Frame the election around bullshit "War on [Insert Here]"
Having the corporate Repubs and Tea Partiers not on the same page helps the DNC and probably cost Cuccinelli the election.
Posted by: MacGruber at November 06, 2013 04:53 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 06, 2013 04:53 AM (tOkJB)
Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone at November 06, 2013 04:54 AM (itW3M)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 06, 2013 04:54 AM (VtjlW)
Virginia commences circling the bowl. As a formerly proud Virginia, I can't tell you how distressing this is to me.
Should have moved to Texas when I had the chance. Goddammit.
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 04:55 AM (eNZFc)
Posted by: dananjcon at November 06, 2013 08:37 AM (wmU4G)
yes:
http://tinyurl.com/mzffrw3
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2013 08:46 AM (EJ/Tn)
**
Wow...by huge margins as well.
Its ok, I don't mind paying 12bucks for McBurger.
Posted by: dananjcon at November 06, 2013 04:55 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 06, 2013 04:55 AM (8Mwgu)
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 04:55 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Gran at November 06, 2013 04:56 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: Nom de Blog at November 06, 2013 04:56 AM (1185Y)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 06, 2013 04:57 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 04:57 AM (eNZFc)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 06, 2013 04:57 AM (qFpRI)
Because people will believe these stupid statements. And Republicans keep offering up candidates who say these sorts of things, whereas Democrats do what you mentioned -- they get someone like McAulliffe who they can keep from saying anything that would immediately turn off the middle [for example, they won't ever just up and write a "Guns to Plowshares" bill. They'll couch it in language designed to make it appealing, or at least, not immediately frightening to the average voter.]
Posted by: Matt S. at November 06, 2013 04:58 AM (PDTch)
Posted by: SH at November 06, 2013 04:58 AM (Jh9QN)
Posted by: Fabulous lJesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 06, 2013 04:58 AM (mpTrn)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 06, 2013 04:58 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 06, 2013 08:52 AM (0HooB)
Cold for now.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 06, 2013 05:00 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:00 AM (eNZFc)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 06, 2013 05:00 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2013 05:01 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: MTF at November 06, 2013 05:01 AM (WxJTH)
Posted by: Matt S. at November 06, 2013 05:02 AM (PDTch)
Posted by: RWC at November 06, 2013 05:02 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: An Ohio Moron at November 06, 2013 05:02 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: blaster at November 06, 2013 05:02 AM (W6bkf)
Posted by: SH at November 06, 2013 05:03 AM (Jh9QN)
I'm right there with you.
Posted by: MacGruber at November 06, 2013 09:00 AM (sWgE+)
Any way we can force Maryland to take Fairfax County off our hands?
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:03 AM (eNZFc)
Posted by: Matt S. at November 06, 2013 05:03 AM (PDTch)
>>And Republicans keep offering up candidates who say these sorts of things, whereas Democrats do what you mentioned -- they get someone like McAulliffe who they can keep from saying anything that would immediately turn off the middle<<
You don't think McAwful was say stuff to piss of the middle? Try to implement things that will piss of the middle?
Of course he will.
He's promised to do just that.
Posted by: MacGruber at November 06, 2013 05:03 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Fabulous lJesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 06, 2013 05:03 AM (mpTrn)
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 06, 2013 05:03 AM (tOkJB)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 06, 2013 05:04 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 06, 2013 05:04 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 06, 2013 09:00 AM (fwARV)
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And the ones they want dead? They arent' even hiding it anymore. It's baked into Obamacare:
http://tinyurl.com/k8rb49l
Clue. Live in a red county?
Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 05:05 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 06, 2013 05:05 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: blindside at November 06, 2013 05:05 AM (WzWmY)
Yeah that's exactly what Cuccinelli said. The problem with you play along to get along people is that you fail to understand the Dems just don't care about you. If they went with Bolling what makes you think that they wouldn't have gone after him for some imagined sin against women?
Posted by: lowandslow at November 06, 2013 05:05 AM (IV4od)
Posted by: Beagle at November 06, 2013 05:05 AM (sOtz/)
I have not been "guessing" at what happened in VA. I was predicting, and doing so accurately. My own analysis comes close to Domenech's on #4 and #7.
#4: Want to win independent swing voters? Don't have a history of rhetorically bashing gays. That dog don't hunt in that voting blog. Candidates can argue all they want about how homosexual acts are "contrary to natural law", as Cuccinelli has. The reality is that, when it comes to swing voters, that argument is being had not with the opposing candidate, but with Will and Grace, and it was over a long time ago, sorry.
#7: Want to win libertarian voters? Don't shit down their necks to where they feel compelled to cast a meaningless protest vote. Especially not when crafty liberals have deliberately put up a sockpuppet candidate specifically to draw away libertarians. Reagan specifically reached out to libertarians and guess what, Reagan BLOODY WELL WON ELECTIONS with it. How many more do the modern GOP need to lose to learn?
Posted by: torquewrench at November 06, 2013 05:06 AM (gqT4g)
I will admit to struggling to respond to the comments here that women are idiots who vote with their ladybits and not their brains when, unfortunately, it is my experience that outside the 'Ettes, that is frequently true.
Again, sadly true, My Queen.
I've lost friends and gigs over politics too. And when you can't persuade otherwise rational people of the falsity of smears, we are truly lost as a nation (see Palin, Sarah, "I can see Russia from my house.")
We were the last stronghold of freedom. By not standing up to our enemies and allowing this type of bullshit to go unchallenged, we're about to see it disappear. My last resort is kinda like that dude in the Bible who said, "I don't know what everyone else is going to do, but I'll follow what I know is right." Or something like that. It's fallen back to the individual to live as rightly as possible while watching society crumble.
And the saddest part is, it never had to happen. Our enemies told us what they were going to do to us, and did it. No one stopped them when they could have. I fear it's too late now, and all I can do is just wait out what little time I have left on this Earth and hope that maybe one day, after I'm gone, some spark of freedom will reignite.
End times much? It sure looks that way to me. I've never seen so much bullshit sweep the world with such speed.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 06, 2013 05:06 AM (0HooB)
And voila...404Care!
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at November 06, 2013 05:06 AM (Dwehj)
>>Any way we can force Maryland to take Fairfax County off our hands?<<
Force? Maryland would take it in a heartbeat. They aren't turning down all that money and tax revenue.
And if you're going to jettison Fairfax, you might as well through in Loudon and Prince William as well.
We'll probably be saying the same thing about Stafford, Spottsylvania, and Faquier within five years as well.
Posted by: MacGruber at November 06, 2013 05:06 AM (sWgE+)
Matt S, Cooch wasn't an ideal candidate, but he wasn't that bad either considering the reprehensible character that he ran against. He actually was much more of a limited government guy that most Repub candidates, but because the state and national parties refused to put any scratch into ads in Virginia, all most people heard is the nonstop ads about WOAR ON WIMMENZ and CUCCINELLI WANTS TO DISEMBOWEL GAYS and HE'LL SUPPORT THE DEATH PENALTY FOR BLOWJOBS!
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:06 AM (eNZFc)
Posted by: Mainah at November 06, 2013 05:07 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 06, 2013 05:07 AM (8Mwgu)
Posted by: TSBeaver at November 06, 2013 05:07 AM (hJ8U7)
I think McAwful is going to keep his chair warm, not rock the boat, and quietly prep the state for Hillary in 2016; when he will be her running mate.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 06, 2013 05:08 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 06, 2013 05:08 AM (ZshNr)
Now I'll read the meat of the post, which is Vic's links.
Posted by: Country Singer at November 06, 2013 05:09 AM (L8r/r)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 06, 2013 05:09 AM (U2UQk)
Going in with a guy who is going to be hit hard on that angle and not have a good counter is just bad strategy. Cuccinelli didn't even have a strong counter; McDonnell got hit the same way last time, but he put out his wife and his daughters and showed that the rhetoric over his thesis was stupid. Cuccinelli's defense, was as far as I can tell, just: "Well, I'm not going to do that if I'm governor."
Posted by: Matt S. at November 06, 2013 05:09 AM (PDTch)
385 The VA house is still solidly to the right
HAH! I see you're unfamiliar with the no-balls pussies who comprise the "leadership" of the Rs in the General Assembly.
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:09 AM (eNZFc)
It's like the samurai. They'd get more and more polite with each other right up to the point when the fucking slicing started (katana, not hammer).
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 06, 2013 05:10 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 06, 2013 05:10 AM (SUKHu)
1) All Recorded history until the 1960s
Women used to receive a constant and unrelenting message that their reproductive organs were not a playground and that sex was going to result in a baby that would have to be brought up. So if a woman was going to use her reproductive organs carelessly there were consequences and both she and any child would suffer because there would be no husband to help with childrearing. A husband and wife team was civilization's solution for raising children in a responsible manner. It was not perfect, but, it worked a large enough percentage of the time, that society was completely invested in it as a strategy.
2) History since the 1960s
Womyn now receive a constant and unrelenting message that their reproductive organs are a playground that occasionally gets invaded by a playground bully that must be dealt with posthaste by an abortion. Guys have no stake in this--they are to show up to play, but, the womyn decide everything else including who lives to be born based on a set of arcane and self-contradictory rules.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 06, 2013 05:10 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: blindside at November 06, 2013 05:11 AM (WzWmY)
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:12 AM (eNZFc)
Good grief, it's like talking to a wall. It doesn't make any difference what anyone says, the democrats and the their lapdog media will just invent the narrative regardless.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 06, 2013 05:12 AM (IV4od)
Posted by: SH at November 06, 2013 05:12 AM (7KxSm)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 06, 2013 05:12 AM (8Mwgu)
Posted by: MTF at November 06, 2013 05:13 AM (u6nf+)
I have been assured by my gay and feminist friends that concern over Islam is just h8ers and the real threat is Christians. Jwest here compared the one lady who had an outburst in Congress to the danger from Islam.
Posted by: Beagle at November 06, 2013 09:05 AM (sOtz/)
Yeah, they look so cute when they put their fingers in their ears and sing Lalalala when you try to reason with them about honor killings, genital mutilations, and so on and so forth.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 06, 2013 05:13 AM (kXoT0)
.Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 06, 2013 05:13 AM (GaqMa)
"The Republican National Committee spent three times as much in 2009 on the same race as they did this year.
The Chamber of Commerce spent one million dollars in the last GovernorÂ’s race, and not one dime on Cuccinelli.
While its often claimed that Tea Party candidates do poorly among independents, Cuccinelli actually won independents by 9 points, 47 percent to 38 percent.
“McAuliffe outraised Cuccinelli by almost $15 million,” and in the last weeks of the campaign, this left Cuccinelli with nearly no media exposure.
Even Pl0tico wonders if Cuccinelli was beginning to turn the tide against the “War on Women” narrative, as he drove down McAuliffe’s lead among women from 24% in polling to 9%."
http://tinyurl.com/n5drvna
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 06, 2013 05:13 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches at November 06, 2013 05:14 AM (TOGBD)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at November 06, 2013 05:14 AM (2RuRr)
>>As for making it harder to get a divorce, I think Cuccinelli would have benefited from discussing the problems with no-fault divorce - namely that the no-fault regime treats a spouse who breaks his or her vows on an equal moral footing with the the spouse who did not. It's a basic issue of fairness. But if the default position is "don't discuss it" then the issue won't be debated and will be viewed through the prism the Democrats give us. <<
Yeah, but Virginia law doesn't look at fairness - it looks as what's in the best interest of the children (if there are kids involved). After that, it's about fairness especially if both spouses work.
Cuccinelli should have left the divorce topic off the table. There are a legion of problems with taking on no-fault divorce. One of which is that it ensures more lawyers make more money. Even if it is a bit better morally than the no-fault regime, a Cuccinelli system of divorce would force people to use lawyers to draft and defend their reasons. Lawyers aren't cheap.
Lots of people, well-meaning people, religious people, moral people, etc., make mistakes with marriage. No-fault divorce isn't and shouldn't go anywhere.
Posted by: MacGruber at November 06, 2013 05:14 AM (sWgE+)
Regarding Sarvis - this is only anecdotal, to be sure, but the people I know who said they were voting Sarvis were NOT potential Cooch voters. They fell into two groups:
1)Disaffected lefties who don't like McFelony because he's a slimy piece of shit and because they've held on to the old rivalry with the Clintonista DLC wing of the party.
2)Idiot hipster wannabes who thought it was supercool to vote for the LINO candidate, especially since they figured the Dem was going to win anyway.
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:15 AM (eNZFc)
Posted by: willow at November 06, 2013 09:12 AM (nqBYe)
He isnt a racist rpublikkkan
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 06, 2013 05:15 AM (JIy0A)
Posted by: SH at November 06, 2013 05:16 AM (7KxSm)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 06, 2013 05:16 AM (ZshNr)
Of course, if the GOP had simply run a guy who said, "I believe in small, limited government and part of that is keeping government out of people's bedrooms," attacks of that sort would not likely have gotten any traction.
Instead they ran Cooch. Who has a history of sticking his chin out with socon pandering about how homosexuality is unnatural, for example. Then McAuliffe landed a haymaker right square on that unguarded chin.
Don't know how many more races have to be lost without good reason for the GOP to wise up about this crap.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 06, 2013 05:16 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 06, 2013 08:54 AM (VtjlW)
Hahaha!!! Lemme guess....Guilford county?
Posted by: EC at November 06, 2013 05:17 AM (GQ8sn)
>>What reasons Did Blasio win ?<<
New Yorkers liked what the liberals did to Detroit so much, they decided to try it on for size.
Posted by: Roy at November 06, 2013 05:17 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: MTF at November 06, 2013 05:17 AM (eFLi6)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 06, 2013 05:17 AM (8Mwgu)
Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 06, 2013 05:18 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 06, 2013 05:18 AM (jf8y6)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 06, 2013 09:07 AM (8Mwgu)
Neither McCain nor Romney were gun grabbers and they were actually more conservative than the Fat Man. In any case, Romney did not win the SC primary.
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 05:19 AM (zZbNF)
>>Formula for winning as a Republican:
1. Fiscal sanity
2. Legalize pot
3. 100% support for abortions due to rape/incest <<
You forgot 4. - STFU, most of the time.
Posted by: Roy at November 06, 2013 05:19 AM (VndSC)
The thing is, I don't really believe the race was ever 10 points in favor of McAuliffe. He made plans to have Clinton/Obama come stump for him when he was ostensibly the winner.
So Geraghty's excuse that the national party didn't want to flush money to support a candidate down 10 points doesn't hold water for me. Polls cited by the media tend to be garbage up until one-two days before the election. What did the internal GOP polls say? Did they even bother to take polls? Because I'm pretty sure that, based on McAuliffe's behavior two weeks ago, Dem internal polls were showing this to be a very close race.
One thing is for sure - this was a winnable race and the Establishment didn't bother trying to win it.
Posted by: @JohnTant at November 06, 2013 05:19 AM (F3IIA)
Because New Yorkers took a look at all the policies that have worked over the last 20 years and said "F--k all that, let's go full retard."
Also, he had an African-American, ex-lesbian wife and a kid with a cool afro.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 06, 2013 05:19 AM (QXlbZ)
1. Fiscal sanity
2. Legalize pot
3. 100% support for abortions due to rape/incest
Do you have a newsletter, Mr. Foo Foo?
Posted by: A douchebag at November 06, 2013 05:20 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 06, 2013 05:20 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 06, 2013 05:21 AM (GaqMa)
I note that the worthless idiot faction seems to stay pretty constant at 52-54% (combined brain dead Dem and libertarian voter percentage). I can hardly wait to hear how 48% is really a mandate for progressivism. I would go get drunk, but I am on some prescription meds which forbid me to seek solace in the only easy refuge available.
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 06, 2013 05:21 AM (XdnQT)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 06, 2013 05:22 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:23 AM (eNZFc)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 06, 2013 05:23 AM (qFpRI)
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 09:19 AM (zZbNF)
Romney is a gigantic gun grabber. I know about his governorship. He's done a good job rewriting it.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 06, 2013 05:24 AM (JIy0A)
Posted by: Mainah at November 06, 2013 05:24 AM (659DL)
(R) Candidate - "Hello I am running for office as a Republican"
Progthug Million Dollar Prime Time TV Commercial -"Abortion Taliban Vagina Binder!!11"
(R) Candidate - "I believe in lower taxes and smaller government, Please vote for me."
Progthug Million Dollar Prime Time TV Commercial
"Racist Granny Medicine Eating Buttsecks Ban!!11 Starver of Teh CHILDREN!!1"
GOP MONEY MEN -- Aw, sh*t . We lose. Run Away!
Posted by: noone, really at November 06, 2013 05:24 AM (5ikDv)
I don't need to read anyone else's evaluation of why Cucc lost. Its the same reason that Republicans lose a lot of elections.
The 19th amendment.
It has to be hell for the informed , conservative woman to have to be associated with such dumbassery.
Posted by: polynikes at November 06, 2013 05:24 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 06, 2013 05:25 AM (qFpRI)
The only potential silver lining for VA - McAuliffe turns out to be so sleazy, so riddled with scandals that he kneecaps the Donks for a while.
Root for indictments!
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:25 AM (eNZFc)
If by incest, you mean a family member sexually assaulting a minor girl, that is already rape and can be covered by that previous allowance.
If by incest you mean sex between two consenting adults who are related, why does that warrant abortion?
Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 05:25 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 06, 2013 05:26 AM (SUKHu)
That hypothetical candidate would be destroyed internally by our fundie SoCon caucus as a San Francisco bath house liberal.
We will continue to murder ourselves until both ends of our side's social spectrum chill the hell out, not let the perfect be the enemy of the good, and concentrate fire on our real enemy. This means the libertarian side has to stop antagonizing the church crowd and the church crowd has mind their own knitting. Right Fucking Now.
Posted by: Jaws at November 06, 2013 05:26 AM (4I3Uo)
Romney is a gigantic gun grabber. I know about his governorship. He's done a good job rewriting it.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 06, 2013 09:24 AM (JIy0A)
You don't know crap except that you hate Romney. You've never posted anything here except to respond to any mention of Romney. Did he shoot your dog?
Posted by: polynikes at November 06, 2013 05:27 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: DangerGirl at November 06, 2013 05:27 AM (LP0Fj)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 06, 2013 05:27 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 06, 2013 09:21 AM (XdnQT)
You love me, you need me, you want me....
Posted by: That bottle of Blanton's on your shelf[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 06, 2013 05:27 AM (JpC1K)
they pick those they want to win .
they help those they would rather see win.
they help destroy those they want to see lose.
Posted by: willow at November 06, 2013 05:28 AM (nqBYe)
-- Learning to play nice-nice with each other is another path to victory. I just don't see it happening.
Posted by: Matt S. at November 06, 2013 05:28 AM (PDTch)
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 07:12 AM (zZbNF)
Really? How about technology that reads the location of your cell phone, which is, after all, just a chunk of plastic and electronics?
We have seen how the NSA abuses technology. How would you feel if some local cop with a vendetta decided to track his neighbor?
We used to live in a free country. Accepting the technology of the dictatorship won't bring it back.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 06, 2013 05:29 AM (oJ5Fd)
They passed the bond with less than 1000 votes in a county with 70,000 people.
http://tinyurl.com/knojkh9
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 05:29 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 06, 2013 05:29 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 05:29 AM (23Kgq)
Posted by: polynikes at November 06, 2013 09:27 AM (m2CN7)
Arent you one of those big Romneybots. C'mon. Youtube exists.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 06, 2013 05:29 AM (JIy0A)
Posted by: shredded chi at November 06, 2013 05:30 AM (bHEwy)
free stuff!
abortion whenever you want!
no responsibility for men to be dads!
vote for me the guy with a rap sheet cause i love screwing others, why not you too?!
hey give a communist a try!
idiots.
Posted by: willow at November 06, 2013 05:31 AM (nqBYe)
Indeed!
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 06, 2013 05:31 AM (GCdCx)
What pisses me off as a libertarian-leaning voter - Ken Cuccinelli could rail about homos and blowjobs and birth control and abortion and divorce until the cows come home, and it wouldn't mean a fucking thing. He wouldn't actually be able to do anything about it.
On the other hand, McAuliffe wants to jack up taxes....and he likely will succeed. He wants to jack up spending.....and he likely will succeed. He wants to grab guns.....and, well, I don't know about that one. I hope like hell that he'll fail there, but I'm far from confident.
Point is, anyone who is supposedly a "moderate" and voted for McAuliffe based on some socon blather by Cooch is a fucking imbecile.
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:31 AM (eNZFc)
Former Secret Service agent for two Presidents , now political candidate discusses the weaponized destruction of individual privacy by the Obama administration.
http://tinyurl.com/mttr2up
Posted by: noone, really at November 06, 2013 05:31 AM (5ikDv)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 06, 2013 05:31 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: polynikes at November 06, 2013 09:27 AM (m2CN7)
Evidently I know more than you. He signed one gun control bill on assault rifles that was passed by the legislature. That was all and he did not advocate for that bill.
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 05:32 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 06, 2013 05:32 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 06, 2013 05:32 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 06, 2013 09:29 AM (VtjlW)
Who knew Bigfoot was a tweaker?
Posted by: EC at November 06, 2013 05:32 AM (GQ8sn)
Politifact would have given it three Pinocchio's and the media would still claim the GOP candidate's stance on "Women's health issues" was the same as Ariel Castro's.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 06, 2013 05:32 AM (QXlbZ)
If you're moral, yes.
If you're amoral, not so much.
I know where my money is.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 06, 2013 05:33 AM (JpC1K)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 06, 2013 05:34 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Matt S. at November 06, 2013 05:34 AM (PDTch)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2013 05:35 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 06, 2013 05:35 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 06, 2013 05:36 AM (bb5+k)
TRUTH.
What gets me is A) with that being a fact, why Cooch would shoot himself in the foot even talking about meaningless bullshit, and B) why libertarians are too stupid to see (as you state) it's just so much unenforceable hot air designed to amp up the church crowd.
Posted by: Jaws at November 06, 2013 05:37 AM (4I3Uo)
462 399
I agree, and I have never once heard a legitimate CONSERVATIVE argument against legalization.
Because there isn't one. The Volstead Act was a proggy plan, after all. Don't know why anyone cares what other people do to themselves.
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:38 AM (eNZFc)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 05:38 AM (23Kgq)
Posted by: Matt S. at November 06, 2013 05:38 AM (PDTch)
and i shuddered.
than i thought yeah they need to learn to lie because the media will use anything or nothing (make up shit) to win, People would rather contract with a communist or a criminal rather than hear anything that might make them feel any responsibility .
so lie.
Posted by: willow at November 06, 2013 05:39 AM (nqBYe)
JackStraw - I'm puzzled why Cuccinelli didn't say a whole lot about ANYTHING. I live in Virginia and he was barely visible at all. I get that he didn't have the kind of money McAuliffe had, but jeez, he had virtually no advertising at ALL, of any kind. It was like he was sleepwalking through his campaign.
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:41 AM (eNZFc)
Posted by: blaster at November 06, 2013 05:42 AM (W6bkf)
>>George Allen was a moderate Republican. He was a popular Governor. His father was the a beloved coach of the Redskins. I am sorry, of the Washington football franchise. <<
Don't be sorry. They are the Redskins.
REDSKINS.
Posted by: MacGruber at November 06, 2013 05:44 AM (sWgE+)
"Rake" is a great word. Very early John Donne-ish.
Willow - the willingness to campaign dirty is something I've always found interesting about David Horowitz. Love him or hate him, he's always made the point that the right just isn't willing to do what the left does, and it's a big reason why they lose elections. He certainly knows firsthand of which he speaks. The white-glove Republicans will keep their precious civility intact on the road to oblivion.
Where the hell is Lee Atwater when you need him?
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:44 AM (eNZFc)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 06, 2013 05:44 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: Figgy Puddin', now with extra Apes crunchin at November 06, 2013 05:46 AM (KtmYy)
George Allen wasn't really a moderate, per se. He had been a rather conservative governor who morphed into a typical Beltway creature in the Senate.
At the end of the day, the VA GOP has had some wanting candidates in the past decade. Jerry Kilgore, anyone?
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:46 AM (eNZFc)
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:48 AM (eNZFc)
Posted by: That bottle of Blanton's on your shelf at November 06, 2013 09:27 AM (JpC1K)
Believe me, the only thing that keeps me going is the hope that the good times have got to get here sometime soon!
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 06, 2013 05:48 AM (XdnQT)
The SoCons had better find a way to be content to hear a Republican simply say he will leave them the hell alone to do what they do rather than pound the pulpit proclaiming to be a crusader for their particular brand of moral purity. If not, we'll ALL repeatedly get screwed by the likes of McAwful and TFG.
The same goes with the libertarian end insisting on the second coming of Ayn Rand or nothing.
It's just so stupid and self-destructive.
Posted by: Jaws at November 06, 2013 05:51 AM (4I3Uo)
If you're looking for an American revival, stop looking toward the GOP.
GOP leadership doesn't even want to talk anymore about Obamacare.
This party is the probably the most pathetic and self-defeating opposition force during the time of the greatest need for opposition in America history.
I despise them.
Posted by: rrpjr at November 06, 2013 05:52 AM (gALp5)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 06, 2013 05:55 AM (JxJPF)
Face facts, people. Cuccinelli didn't lose because he was a "SoCon warrior" who scared women. He lost because he was saddled with poor candidates down ticket, leftover ill will from McDonnell's scandals, and because the GOP decided it would rather have a Democrat in office than a conservative Republican.
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at November 06, 2013 05:56 AM (YYJjz)
"Plus McDonnell's scandal and subsequent absence factored into what could only hurt a weak candidate"
McDonnell's scandal? If people think that's a scandal, wait till they get a load of Terry McAuliffe!
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 05:58 AM (eNZFc)
"McDonnell's scandal?If people think that's a scandal, wait till they get a load of Terry McAuliffe!"
Yeah, but you can't run a current election on the basis of future what-ifs.
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at November 06, 2013 06:02 AM (YYJjz)
Gabe wrote, "Oh, and despite the fantasies of people who, er, can't read, it wasn't that the party abandoned Cuccinelli."
Based on what I've been reading up to and now following the Virginia election, yours seems to be the minority opinion, Gabe, unless you consider National Review's Jonah Goldberg and Maggie Gallagher wild-eyed fantasists. You know how those Romney-endorsing extremists are over at the National Review.
The GOP and its weaselly Whig Establishment leadership abandoned Cuccinelli just as they'll abandon (or covertly oppose) every Tea Party and conservative Republican at every opportunity. They've been bought and paid for by the GOP's big money donors so hot for immigration 'reform' and the cheap labor it brings they can't stand it, and consider those of us who comprise the conservative base of the GOP--specifically those candidates and incumbents who represent our views--as standing in the way. Establishment figures such as McCain, like the Democrats, consider us 'whacko bird' extremists. News: it isn't extreme to oppose a stealth socialist takeover of the country or to deny the AGW state religion or to consider ninth-month moment of birth abortion as de facto infanticide.
So yeah, the GOP Establishment abandoned Cuccinelli, and they'll do it again to other conservative candidates because they're stupid, unprincipled, greedy and weak. A committed, straight-ticket voting Republican, I'm coming around to the idea of a leadership purge or a third party split.
Posted by: troyriser at November 06, 2013 06:37 AM (gNlvW)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 06, 2013 09:10 AM (SUKHu)
Go on...
Posted by: NC Ref at November 06, 2013 06:40 AM (R+XGs)
Posted by: nip at November 06, 2013 06:40 AM (jI23+)
Posted by: radar at November 06, 2013 09:48 AM (eNZFc)
You're absolutely right. Patriots do not let it burn. Patriots put out the fire and go after the arsonists.
Posted by: troyriser at November 06, 2013 06:41 AM (gNlvW)
Meh -- there's a reason for that! Mr. Malor seems to want to believe other things were more important in the Virginia race.
The only important fact for me -- and for all conservatives who will continue running conservatives and not voting for non-conservative Republicans is: "The RNC spent $9 million in 2009 to win and spent $3 million this time, pulling money out of Virginia, to lose by a hair. The RNC truly screwed up in Virginia this time and no amount of spinning can distract from that screw up."
That's what I will remember -- and no amount of spinning and blaming will cause us to forget it.
Every month or so the Republican establishment stabs in the back more conservatives like Ted Cruz, and caves on the shutdown, and refuses to back conservatives in races . . . and more and more conservatives like me refuse to vote for them in major elections.
I won't elect people who are wearing our uniforms and entering into our strategy discussions and then shooting us in the back. I don't vote for people whose values are antithetical to mine, who are actively and malevolently opposed to limited government and individual liberty, and who yet wear our uniforms and pretend to be on our team. I won't give them an ounce more credibility and authority, nor will I elect them to office.
And every year that goes by there are more like me.
The Republican Party *will* be reformed. And it will be reformed by conservatives who refuse to vote for liberals masquerading as conservatives.
Posted by: Igor at November 06, 2013 06:52 AM (hfDHf)
Posted by: Jason M at November 06, 2013 06:54 AM (/10g9)
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Posted by: Jason M at November 06, 2013 11:04 AM (/10g9)
Currently, the Democrats advocate abortion up to and including the ninth-month moment of birth, an extreme position even by European standards. If the GOP grants the validity of that position, what good is it? Even now, it's clear the implications of Obamacare will include those death panels that Sarah Palin warned about in 2008, where healthcare is rationed and approved or denied on the whim of a bureaucratic construct. The way things are going, many of our elderly (and others of negligible worth to the State) will be taking that Liverpool pathway so popular in the UK. We're talking euthanasia here. You think we should shut up about that, too? Too much of a social issue for you?
A national political party is as much a moral as it is a political association. The Left has a moral vision. Either we counter that vision or we lose to it.
Posted by: troyriser at November 06, 2013 07:26 AM (gNlvW)
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