November 08, 2013

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— Gabriel Malor

Happy Friday.

In 2013, white evangelicals accounted for 27% of VirginiaÂ’s electorate, down from 34% in 2009. They voted for Cuccinelli at the same rate as they did for McDonnell (a touch more than 8 in 10), there's just relatively fewer of them than there used to be.

National Review's Robert Costa (who is about to be WaPo's Robert Costa) talked to Cuccinelli's chief strategist, who thinks the shutdown crippled the campaign. "It sucked the oxygen out of the room. Instead of talking about Obamacare, we were talking about the shutdown." Folks discussed what the shutdown might do to the election next year, but didn't much think about what it'd do to the election right around the corner.

The GOP has plans for Obamacare replacement, or maybe plans to have plans for Obamacare replacement, but there doesn't seem to be a rush to line up behind any particular choice while Obamacare is in the middle of imploding.

Avik Roy dissects President Obama's mealy-mouthed apology and finds that in the course of sort-of apologizing for his campaign lie, "if you like it, you can keep it, period," he made a series of other misleading or outright false claims.

Have a great weekend.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 02:49 AM | Comments (512)
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1 DAY 367 1,094 to go (1,165 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, McAuliffe's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 02:50 AM (uf1pv)

2 1rst!

Posted by: Smokey the Storyteller at November 08, 2013 02:50 AM (h0T3E)

3 Democrats about to steal AG election in Virginia and finalize the transformation of this once great state into illinois East.

Posted by: Czar Peter at November 08, 2013 02:51 AM (1YeHW)

4 Allergist at 9, Urologist at 10, Colonoscopy next Friday. Almost every orifice to be probed. If I could, I'd go for a full on heart/lung/kidney transplant before I lose my insurance.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 02:52 AM (uf1pv)

5 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Friday, November 08, 2013.  On this day in 1923 Adolf Hitler attempted, and failed, to seize control of the German government in the Beer Hall Putsch.  Just imagine how the world would have been different if The Germans had locked him up for life or executed him for treason.  FDR probably would have only served 2 terms and would not have been able to pack the court.  "For the want of nail" is applicable here.

A LOT of stuff today.  In fact after I hit 5 pp I started skipping sites and still wound up with 7 pp.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:52 AM (zZbNF)

6 Powerful typhoon strikes the Philippines.  There will be massive loss of life here as the buildings in the small towns are normally not very sound and communication for warnings in some cases is very poor.

http://tinyurl.com/lcbk8sx

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:53 AM (zZbNF)

7 Indians are not the only team names and mascots that the PC Nazis are jumping on now.  Arabs are now protected specie.

http://tinyurl.com/jwqhle3

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:53 AM (zZbNF)

8 One for CAC, weird asteroid sighting.

http://tinyurl.com/o8fvuxo

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:53 AM (zZbNF)

9 60 Min to attack the credibility of Benghazi witness.  After viewing the edited hit job 60 min did on a Midwest Nuke plant decades ago and comparing side by side with the plant's on filming of the interviews, 60 min has zero credibility with me. In fact, all of the alphabets and CNN have no credibility with me as far as news goes.

http://tinyurl.com/lqeabpp

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:53 AM (zZbNF)

10 Marines to take on mission in Nigeria to suppress pirates.  Why does this not fill be with confidence?  They have cut funding to the bone and cut the forces. Now step up more missions.  That will result in a small underpowered contingent who will be left hanging if attacked by a large force.  We should have a Constitutional amendment that says Democrats cannot deploy troops anywhere unless war is declared.  Â….. Wait, I believe it already says that for all troops.  What they need to do is deploy the Navy to escort ships in a convoy.  And when the pirates appear, blow them out of the water and move on.

http://tinyurl.com/lj7mnsc

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:53 AM (zZbNF)

11 This makes me want to puke.

New U.S. ambassador to the UN Samantha Power didn't waste her diplomatic skills on Vietnam veterans at a New York speech, praising actress Jane Fonda for "being outspoken on behalf" of her convictions.[b/]


They tried Tokyo Rose and convicted her of treason and she was forced to make radio broadcasts as a prisoner of the Japanese.  This [expletive deleted] gave direct aid and comfort to the enemy.  I am waiting for her to die, hopefully before I am too old and sick to travel, so I can round up a Vietnam vet contingent to go piss on her grave.


And while we are at it that stupid far-left radical scrunt Power needs to be relieved of all duties.

http://tinyurl.com/mecp4ym

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:54 AM (zZbNF)

12 How about the fucking GOP replace Obamacare with nothing... except the free market? AND... Tort reform, capping malpractice and allowing insurance to be purchased across state lines. GOP = Gladly Obeying Progressives.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 02:54 AM (uf1pv)

13 Three suspects have been arrested in the murder of a UVM Medical student who was a 2nd Lt in the AF on a scholarship. They are saying it was a home invasion.  No names will be released until arraignment.  

http://tinyurl.com/kctad6a

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:54 AM (zZbNF)

14 Police use stun gun to subdue father trying to go in burning house to rescue 3 year old son.  I don't know which way to go on this one.  The cop would have damned if he did and damned if he didn't.

http://tinyurl.com/mykjp2b

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:54 AM (zZbNF)

15 Yet more evidence that family courts should be abolished and men have no rights there.  In family court if you are a man you are guilt of crimes as soon as you walk in the door.

http://tinyurl.com/kz3d6lj

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:55 AM (zZbNF)

16 11 Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 06:54 AM (zZbNF) The fish stinks from the head. Capisce?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 02:55 AM (uf1pv)

17 "...60 min has zero credibility with me. In fact, all of the alphabets and CNN have no credibility with me as far as news goes." Welcome to the party, sir. Glad you could make it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 08, 2013 02:55 AM (60Vyp)

18
The full court press is on for Obama's lifting of sanctions against Iran.  This is pure propaganda supplied by Iran because there are zero Americans there.  Change the woman's name who wrote this to Walter Durante and search HER house (like they did the other reporter) except this time for Obama talking points.


http://tinyurl.com/m5arl69


And look for a "deal" because horse face is flying to Geneva today to agree to lift them.


http://tinyurl.com/khozyyj


Meanwhile Iran wants to expand its Nuke program.  This administration has the worst foreign policy program since Jimmy Carter.


http://tinyurl.com/n86aqz9

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:55 AM (zZbNF)

19 Yet another massive power grab by Obamanite regulators as the FDA moves to ban all transfats.  The general clam is they clog arteries and cause heart attacks.  Let me tell the Morons something here.  I have done a massive amount of research on heart attacks and what you eat has very little to do with it.  (how much you eat compared to the exercise you get does)  From what I have been able to determine the leading factor is heredity.  Are they going to ban being born in a family that has a history of heart attacks?

http://tinyurl.com/mdg54au

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:55 AM (zZbNF)

20 The Senate passed the lawyer employment act yesterday for gays.  Hopefully the House will not sell us out.  I have know multiple gays at the place where I used to work, both male and female.  None were ever harassed, none were fired, and they all got promotions.  This bill is bullshit because all it does is when someone who is allegedly gay gets fired for cause it sets up a probability for the corrupt EEOC to come with a lawsuit.  This is what happens almost every time a black is fired now.

http://tinyurl.com/mzlmsot

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:56 AM (zZbNF)

21 While the IRS was busy harassing conservatives and auditing the enemies of Obama they gave $4B to identity thieves.

http://tinyurl.com/lrjdosw

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:56 AM (zZbNF)

22 For the Morons or people so ugly they have to tie a pork chop around their neck to get their dog to come to them, bacon scented deodorant.

http://tinyurl.com/kbob8ec

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:56 AM (zZbNF)

23 I love this.  

On Wednesday, the NCDOT sent out an alert which reads: “A High severity incident has been Added for I-40 Eastbound in Wake County in Raleigh,” before going on to list the incident as “Vehicle Accident: Women Drivers, Rain, Obama Care.”  

Then urged drivers to stay at home.  He is not with the feds so he was fired on the spot.

http://tinyurl.com/lknhuxl

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:57 AM (zZbNF)

24 Indians are not the only team names and mascots that the PC Nazis are jumping on now. Arabs are now protected specie.

http://tinyurl.com/jwqhle3

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 06:53 AM (zZbNF)

I'm going to name a sports team the White Anglo-Saxon Oppressors and fucking dare people to challenge me.

Posted by: Barack O-Motherfucking-Bama at November 08, 2013 02:57 AM (fwARV)

25 McShitty goes to kiss Obama's ass (and his front) while stabbing us in the back on amnesty.  This senile old shit is 77 years old why doesn't he do all of us a favor and go home.

http://tinyurl.com/kb5bczn

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:57 AM (zZbNF)

26 Yet more flash mob of blacks hit three Chicago stores.  Store owners are going to have to figure out a way to deal with this shit because the police are too busy shooting people's dogs and sticking things up people's ass for "drugs".  I couldn't get the video to play maybe the Morons will have better luck.

http://tinyurl.com/mrjmkca

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:57 AM (zZbNF)

27 Oh, add tasering women who will not show their tits to the list.

http://tinyurl.com/nzrtn84

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:57 AM (zZbNF)

28 19 Are they going to ban being born in a family that has a history of heart attacks? http://tinyurl.com/mdg54au Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 06:55 AM (zZbNF) See page 975 of the Affordable Care Act.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 02:58 AM (uf1pv)

29 Missouri State wants to ban Nerf guns.  Perhaps the people who make Nerf guns should change the name of them to remove "gun" from the title.  That term seems to drain what little brains the PC liberals have.

http://tinyurl.com/oso3hu6

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:58 AM (zZbNF)

30 Niger Innis, a well-known black tea party activist, is seriously contemplating a Republican run for a U.S. House seat in Nevada in 2014.
 
Ace/Gabe please note that was copied straight out of the news item and only has one "g".

The JJ and Sharpton contingent will immediately label him as an Uncle Tom.

http://tinyurl.com/qazege2

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:58 AM (zZbNF)

31 Obama voter with cancer has insurance cancelled and will have to let nature take its course because he can't afford the affordable Obamacare.  This will be my wife and me both next year when mine is cancelled when the company stuff takes effect.  This is linked to a Fox video so I could not play it.

http://tinyurl.com/nbf35ml

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:58 AM (zZbNF)

32 Obama admits he is stacking the courts with liberal activist judges.  So far he has had twice as many judges confirmed as Bush at this same time because the Senate held Bush's judges up.  Our problem is that Nancy Boy is on the judiciary committee and he always allows them through.  (The Judiciary committee allows the nominee to be blocked as long as no minority Party will vote him forward.)

http://tinyurl.com/pz3to2v

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:59 AM (zZbNF)

33 Obama gives Democrats seeking reelection permission to bash Obamacare and lie about not supporting it.  As long as they don't vote for delay (which will change today)

http://tinyurl.com/l6khbpx

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:59 AM (zZbNF)

34 Obama blocks Obamacare tech chief from testifying in Issa committee.  This makes about 2 dozen now doesn't it?

http://tinyurl.com/q6yb7po

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 02:59 AM (zZbNF)

35 I love it.  Fox's Eric Bolling says he did not vote for the big government, gun grabbing fat man.

http://tinyurl.com/nz43w9b

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:00 AM (zZbNF)

36 Steve King (R-IA) says Boner will be removed as speaker if he touches amnesty.

http://tinyurl.com/q3daud5

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:00 AM (zZbNF)

37 Grassley: Christie would be 'welcome candidate in Iowa' in 2016 once state blunts Tea Party clout

Yes Grassley, we know you are RINO.  And we know Iowa is a blue State.  We also know that caucuses can be took over by someone who has a lot of foot soldiers on the ground there.

http://tinyurl.com/l3uxwwe

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:00 AM (zZbNF)

38 30 Niger Innis, a well-known black tea party activist, is seriously contemplating a Republican run for a U.S. House seat in Nevada in 2014. Ace/Gabe please note that was copied straight out of the news item and only has one "g". The JJ and Sharpton contingent will immediately label him as an Uncle Tom. http://tinyurl.com/qazege2 Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 06:58 AM (zZbNF) My gut tells me that Niger Innis will not suffer fools lightly and will be just as loud and strident in his own defense from the inevitable smear campaign to come. GOOD. A lesson for all Republican candidates too. Hight time to take off the gloves and pick up the baseball bats/crow bars. I know, "crow." I denounce myself.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 03:01 AM (uf1pv)

39 And speaking of foot soldiers on the ground in Iowa, Sarah Palin is headed there now.

http://tinyurl.com/lcvekt5

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:01 AM (zZbNF)

40 Off O-Motherfucking-Bama sock.

Are they going to ban being born in a family that has a history of heart attacks?

http://tinyurl.com/mdg54au

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 06:55 AM (zZbNF)

Do you really think they wouldn't?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 03:01 AM (fwARV)

41 This is how the EOOC and corrupt Holder get away with shit in obviously unconstitutional actions.  They make backroom deals to prevent a case from reaching the court.

http://tinyurl.com/lu8h2qs

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:01 AM (zZbNF)

42 And finally Ace had a post about Obama and Sebelius on "confidence".  My response:  I know I missed the thread but could this be the "big announcement today? She is going under the bus?

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:01 AM (zZbNF)

43 Kindle Daily Deals

http://tinyurl.com/lgbrtvt



Whew! That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:01 AM (zZbNF)

44 In Soviet Union bus go under YOU. Wait, that ain't right...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 03:02 AM (uf1pv)

45 @Redistrict: Just updated my error spreadsheet to reflect likely swing of roughly 1,500 net votes in @SenMarkHerring's direction... ---- All because of ballots that haven't been counted yet, but are supposedly uncounted in the most democratic section of Fairfax County. Can't say I'm shocked. These days, they ALWAYS seem to find these big piles of votes solely in the most democratic areas of every state. In this case, it doesn't even appear to be a transcription error, but rather is uncounted absentee ballots. Let that sink in for a minute. All the other absentees around Virginia were counted by Wednesday morning, except (supposedly) the most democratic part if Fairfax County. And nobody noticed till now? This isn't a small error.

Posted by: Czar Peter at November 08, 2013 03:03 AM (1YeHW)

46 Good Morning, I donÂ’t have to read the link about EDNA or is the bill ENDA, either way is a waste of time. We pay these jerks do to things and they are discussing, and voting on bills that have no use. They should be working on impeachment proceedings. J.J., good idea to get all your appointments in now. I am chronic pain patient in my neck and it affects my hands. There are three things going on in hands, one is from neck. I have had note on my computer screen for weeks to call hand surgeon for my injections. I still havenÂ’t called for an appointment.

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 03:03 AM (z4WKX)

47 Amazing! Even as the media reluctantly report that people are suffering under obamacare, they *still* cannot find a single victim to interview. Weird. Instead they cap off the story thusly: Even though the president apologized, that's still not enough for some Republicans.

Posted by: Bad Apple Soothsayer, Inc. at November 08, 2013 03:04 AM (9eMQw)

48 I am a little late to the thread because I thought I would log on to my account at Rite Aid to check if my prescription was ready for pickup today.  It took me 10 min to log on and then they were asking for security questions (4) and new passwords.


And Rite Aid has the worst designed web page of any store I have ever logged onto.


And I still haven't found my prescription.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:04 AM (zZbNF)

49

And I still haven't found my prescription.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 07:04 AM (zZbNF)

You need to look under "Milk of the Poppy."

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 03:05 AM (fwARV)

50 It's not me guys!

I swear it wasn't me!

Really, it wasn't me!

Posted by: RINO in RINOlandia at November 08, 2013 03:05 AM (FA+FN)

51 National Review's Robert Costa (who is about to be WaPo's Robert Costa) talked to Cuccinelli's chief strategist, who thinks the shutdown crippled the campaign. "It sucked the oxygen out of the room. Instead of talking about Obamacare, we were talking about the shutdown.


That is BS.  NR is a neocon site that hates conservatives. Most people really did not give a shit about the so-called shutdown.


The exit polls said the major concerns of the voters was inflation and unemployment.  Why they voted for a Democrat based on that baffles me other than they are stupid.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:06 AM (zZbNF)

52 35 I love it. Fox's Eric Bolling says he did not vote for the big government, gun grabbing fat man. http://tinyurl.com/nz43w9b Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 07:00 AM (zZbNF) i was very happy to hear this...and sad that guttfeld is of the elect the "r's" and fight later mindset.....

Posted by: scoamt at November 08, 2013 03:07 AM (8JJ6O)

53 It's hilarious. Somehow we have to cast Cuccinelli's loss as the fault of those damned purists. This time it's the shutdown, which by the way was over a one-year Obamacare delay which was once the 'sensible' option. The establishment wanted him to win oh so badly.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 08, 2013 03:07 AM (uhAkr)

54 stupid sock

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 03:08 AM (8JJ6O)

55 4 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 06:52 AM (uf1pv)


Any specific reason or just normal checkups?

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:08 AM (zZbNF)

56 That is BS. NR is a neocon site that hates conservatives. Most people really did not give a shit about the so-called shutdown.  Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 07:06 AM (zZbNF)

Unless you're a Fed in Northern Virginia.

You know, that mythical land where all the votes came from that actually swamped Cuccinelli

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 03:08 AM (JpC1K)

57 Tell me if I'm crazy. You would think the R's, who promised us they were serious about stopping obamacare, would gather as many victims of obamanoncare as they could and have hearing after hearing. Boy, are they in for a shock come Nov 2014.

Posted by: Bad Apple Soothsayer, Inc. at November 08, 2013 03:08 AM (9eMQw)

58 13 Three suspects have been arrested in the murder of a UVM Medical student who was a 2nd Lt in the AF on a scholarship. They are saying it was a home invasion. No names will be released until arraignment. http://tinyurl.com/kctad6a Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 06:54 AM (zZbNF) That site is unbelievable. The author of the article and an editor are monitoring comments reminding people that those arrested (who we don't know since they haven't released their names) are innocent until proven guilty. Well, true in a court of law but not in the comment section of a news article. How do you libel unnamed people?? Anyway, I hate when they won't release names and have to delay it for a press conference.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 08, 2013 03:09 AM (3brsw)

59 When you ask Chris Christie his political views on economic prosperity he believes that a rising tide lifts all ships, in fact once he jumped into the surf in Atlantic City and the tide came in at New York Harbor. Lifted every ship.

Posted by: Time Magazine [/i] at November 08, 2013 03:10 AM (U2UQk)

60
National Review's Robert Costa (who is about to be WaPo's Robert Costa)



Mais bien sur.

National Review - the mainstream media's AAA league for well behaved "Conservatives".

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2013 03:10 AM (kdS6q)

61 Christie is so fat, when pilots fly out of Ft Dix he shows up on their radar.

Posted by: Time Magazine [/i] at November 08, 2013 03:10 AM (U2UQk)

62 The rumor is Chris Christie was so fat as a newborn he was baptized in the Camden Aquarium.

Posted by: Time Magazine [/i] at November 08, 2013 03:11 AM (U2UQk)

63 there doesn't seem to be a rush to line up behind any particular choice while Obamacare is in the middle of imploding. Well, yes, this is elementary strategy: stay out of the way while your opponent is imploding.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 08, 2013 03:11 AM (102Hx)

64 When Chris Christie steps on the scale it says, "To be continued."

Posted by: Time Magazine [/i] at November 08, 2013 03:11 AM (U2UQk)

65 Chris Christie is so fat, he has his own New Jersey zip code.

Posted by: Time Magazine [/i] at November 08, 2013 03:12 AM (U2UQk)

66 Seriously though, Chris Christie isnÂ’t fat, he insists heÂ’s just two feet too short.

Posted by: Time Magazine [/i] at November 08, 2013 03:13 AM (U2UQk)

67 When Chris Christie steps on the scale it says, "To be continued."


When Chris Christie sits around the house, he sits AROUND.   THE.   HOUSE.

Posted by: Rodney Dangerfield[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 03:13 AM (JpC1K)

68 Instead they cap off the story thusly: Even though the president apologized, that's still not enough for some Republicans.

Posted by: Bad Apple Soothsayer

Okay okay okay...How's this?
Sorry I fuc@ed you in the ass and when I got done, I used your shirt to wipe off my dick?  Are we good now?   Friendsies??

XOX
Oblamea

Posted by: Bruce at November 08, 2013 03:13 AM (BLlCg)

69 After the operation to restrict his stomach Christie was diagnosed with flesh eating bacteria. Not to worry, though, the doctor gives him 87 years to live.

Posted by: Time Magazine [/i] at November 08, 2013 03:13 AM (U2UQk)

70 When Time Magazine took a picture of him last week it took two weeks to print out. So we just used a head and shoulders profile.

Posted by: Time Magazine [/i] at November 08, 2013 03:14 AM (U2UQk)

71 Well, yes, this is elementary strategy: stay out of the way while your opponent is imploding. For a contrarian viewpoint you can speak to Hannibal's brother Maharbal.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 08, 2013 03:16 AM (uhAkr)

72 You would think the R's, who promised us they were serious about stopping obamacare, would gather as many victims of obamanoncare as they could and have hearing after hearing.

Boy, are they in for a shock come Nov 2014. Posted by: Bad Apple Soothsayer

Try to include as many women as they can that say how they now have to pay MORE MONEY for all of their abortions. Plus how they now have to work at least three jobs to pay for the Ocare. And leave their children in state supported daycare so they can work all of those jobs....oops, that's probably a feature...don't mention that one.

Posted by: Bruce at November 08, 2013 03:17 AM (BLlCg)

73 "...praising actress Jane Fonda for 'being outspoken on behalf' of her convictions..." Raised with a certain attitude about patriotic loyalty, I wondered aghast at the time why there were no consequences for Miz Fonda's aid and comfort to the enemy. Today I better understand why. But I'm so old-fash I think treason is a hanging offense. No statute of limitations, either. Good morning. Morning thread, coffee, and rising sun, I think I'm about awake, finally.

Posted by: mindful webworker - child of a past millennium at November 08, 2013 03:17 AM (nETWY)

74 That's because Cuccinelli was left for dead, by the Inner Party, it never occurred to them, it was important to win the only other major race this term, scratch that they did the same for Lonergan, for Stay Puft, who was absent in the big struggle of the '10s, they go all out.

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 08, 2013 03:18 AM (Jsiw/)

75 NR- Which has Mark Steyn and Charles Cook on staff? We've dismissed NR now? What media outlets do we have left? Breitbart and AOSHQ and that's it? Some people really are getting like a Protestant sect which is so rigid it keeps breaking off from other denominations and ends up with 20 members.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 08, 2013 03:19 AM (R3gO3)

76 56 Unless you're a Fed in Northern Virginia.

You know, that mythical land where all the votes came from that actually swamped Cuccinelli

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 07:08 AM (JpC1K)


I don't know if that was snark or not but I would say the 15% of the feds that were shutdown didn't mind it a bit because they got another paid vacation. 


This shutdown was like the last one in 96, the only people that gave a shit was the MFM who wanted to use it as a hammer and the Dem politicians for the same reason.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:19 AM (zZbNF)

77 She is going under the bus?
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 07:01 AM

Oh come on, Vic. You know better than that....

My gut (still suffering from last night's eggplant parmesan) tells me Choom Boy is sending her to 'Lanna to announce that the ChoomCare website will be up and running on schedule. The schedule is printed on rubber, but hey, "glitches."

If she addresses the naysayers at all, it will be to say "he apologized -- what more do you want?"

These people do not have the reasoning process and mental checks and balances of normal humans. They are sociopaths, every one. They are sure as shit not Americans.

I still call for Alcatraz to be reopened just to accommodate President Historic First© and the top felons of his treasonous regime.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 08, 2013 03:19 AM (kaGpp)

78 The author of the article and an editor are monitoring comments reminding people that those arrested (who we don't know since they haven't released their names) are innocent until proven guilty.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 08, 2013 07:09 AM (3brsw)

Dr. Jesse - I don't recall seeing similar warnings during the Zimmerman trial.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 03:20 AM (fwARV)

79 From WSJ:

"He [Mitch McConnell] refers to the Senate Conservatives Fund. "That's the one I'm prepared to be specific about." The fund "has elected more Democrats than the Democratic Senatorial Committee over the last three cycles." The group is targeting Mr. McConnell with ads slamming his leadership during the shutdown. "Right now they're on the air in obvious coordination with Harry Reid's super PAC—Harry Reid's!—in the same markets, at roughly the same amount, at the same time."

But says he isn't worried about his own race: "I don't wanna be overly cocky, but I'm gonna be the Republican nominee next year."

Are members of the tea party on the ground being fooled by operators, profit makers and cynics? "Yes," he said, followed by a brief silence. He declined to say more, but emphasized again that "I make a distinction between the leaders and the followers. I mean, I think a lot of well-meaning people are sending money to organizations having no idea they're gonna spend all that money against Republicans. Because they're being misled." "

Get that you yobs?  You're too fucking stupid to know what's what.  Just leave it to Mitch McConnell.  He's got your back - even if you're an idiot.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnd with that interview I think we can all agree that he has torpedoed any chance he had of ever being the Republican nominee.

You have to get the base to vote for you in the primary, and that's tough to do when you call them stupid.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 03:21 AM (JpC1K)

80 I don't know if that was snark or not but I would say the 15% of the feds that were shutdown didn't mind it a bit because they got another paid vacation.  Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 07:19 AM

You've just demonstrated that you have no idea what you're talking about on this specific point.  So we're done here.

Moving on.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 03:23 AM (JpC1K)

81 75 NR- Which has Mark Steyn and Charles Cook on staff? We've dismissed NR now? What media outlets do we have left? Breitbart and AOSHQ and that's it? Some people really are getting like a Protestant sect which is so rigid it keeps breaking off from other denominations and ends up with 20 members.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 08, 2013 07:19 AM (R3gO3)


I used to read it daily.  But after they supported a bunch of liberal programs I dismissed it long ago.  So it is not "so now we dismiss it".  This isn't a bunch of purity shit.


And hiring a couple of of token conservatives doesn't offset all the other neocons.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:23 AM (zZbNF)

82 The funniest part about the cheese eating surrender monkey from the Cuccinelli campaign blaming the loss on the shutdown is that he swore up and down they wanted to talk about Obamacare instead.

The shutdown WAS about Obamacare, you lying sack of excrement.

I don't know how many of these Rinos were working on his campaign, but NRO and Gabe found one.  Good job, guys. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2013 03:24 AM (BeSEI)

83 National Review - the mainstream media's AAA league for well behaved "Conservatives".
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2013 07:10 AM

Poppin' Fresh dreams of the day clownhall buys NRO and puts him in charge.

Oh, to be sitting on Blogger's Row sipping from a juice-box with Jonah Goldberg and Ramesh Ponnunnunnuru!

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 08, 2013 03:25 AM (kaGpp)

84 I know people in NoVA. Believe me, they cared about the shutdown.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 08, 2013 03:25 AM (R3gO3)

85

The author of the article and an editor are monitoring comments reminding people that those arrested (who we don't know since they haven't released their names) are innocent until proven guilty.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 08, 2013 07:09 AM (3brsw)

-------------

 

I'm sensing that the alledged perps aren't Tea Partiers.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 08, 2013 03:25 AM (KlVdw)

86 I don't know if that was snark or not but I would say the 15% of the feds that were shutdown didn't mind it a bit because they got another paid vacation.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 07:19 AM (zZbNF)

I'm going to take issue with this.

Did we get paid eventually?  Yes. 

Was my mortgage due BEFORE we were paid?  Yes.  I'm 33.  I'm about three years removed from a divorce, and quite a few Morons here know what that does to your savings account.

It was a quirk of the calendar that my mortgage came due at precisely the worst time for me.  That is no one's fault, it just is.  To say I didn't mind not being allowed to go to work though... I begged to be declared essential.  I needed to be paid correctly and on time, and I'm not the only one.

I despise the leviathan as much as anyone, and the biggest reason I'm a fed at the moment is because math is rather high on my people-priority list. 

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 03:26 AM (fwARV)

87 80 Moving on.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 07:23 AM (JpC1K)


While you are moving keep moving.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:26 AM (zZbNF)

88 You know, that mythical land where all the votes came from that actually swamped Cuccinelli I looked at a poll from a couple weeks before the election and Cuccinelli was down by 40 percentage points among unmarried women. Exit poll that Rush was talking about yesterday had him down by around 35 percentage points in that group. Unmarried women sunk him. The power of the safety net hammock is getting to be an almost insurmountable electoral disadvantage.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 08, 2013 03:26 AM (U2UQk)

89 While you are moving keep moving.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 07:26 AM (zZbNF)


You mad, bro?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 03:27 AM (JpC1K)

90 84 I know people in NoVA. Believe me, they cared about the shutdown.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 08, 2013 07:25 AM (R3gO3)


The exit polls say different according to the analysis I linked to a few days ago.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:27 AM (zZbNF)

91 On pins and needles waiting for the Sebelius statement. Delay, delay, delay.! If she does delay a significant portion of it, we might have already turned the tide towards it's ultimate repeal. What they'll' do with the millions already affected I don't know, but I know it will be a lot harder when millions more are in the same boat.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 08, 2013 03:28 AM (ZshNr)

92 Unmarried women sunk him. The power of the safety net hammock is getting to be an almost insurmountable electoral disadvantage.  Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 08, 2013 07:26 AM (U2UQk)


There are a bunch of things that sunk him, and that was but one of them.  I don't think the SoCon stuff killed him as much as the Dems would like to think.  But the endless blizzard of hate mail, phone calls and radio ads twisting a single SoCon issue did.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 03:29 AM (JpC1K)

93 Good Morning everyone, Looks like Friday morning DOOM! Thanks for the news Vic, appreciate it every morning. Are we going to have a live drinking game thread later for Shebelches speech/lie thingy?

Posted by: spypeach at November 08, 2013 03:29 AM (10H0T)

94 people so ugly they have to tie a pork chop around their neck to get their dog to come to them Now there's some snark that I haven't heard in a long while!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at November 08, 2013 03:30 AM (NlCgY)

95

To claim that federal workers who were shutdown didn't mind because they got paid eventually is the height of ignorance.

Claiming that those people - a vast majority of whom are living check to check - weren't affected by having their salaries halved for the month of October is disingenuous at best. 

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 03:30 AM (fwARV)

96 91 On pins and needles waiting for the Sebelius statement. Delay, delay, delay.! If she does delay a significant portion of it, we might have already turned the tide towards it's ultimate repeal. What they'll' do with the millions already affected I don't know, but I know it will be a lot harder when millions more are in the same boat.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 08, 2013 07:28 AM (ZshNr)


The only reason I would agree with delaying it would be if they delayed it until after I reach 65. Otherwise both my wife and I get to choose between dieing or being bankrupt.


If they don't delay it and we nominate someone who can energize the WHOLE Republican Party next year and in 2016 we stand a good chance of killing this POS.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:31 AM (zZbNF)

97 NRO confirms NoVa fed workers are idiots who cannot discern difference between fed and state governments.

Posted by: dogfish at November 08, 2013 03:32 AM (nsOJa)

98 95 Claiming that those people- a vast majority of whom are living check to check - weren't affected by having their salaries halved for the month of October is disingenuous at best.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 07:30 AM (fwARV)


Look I am sorry that you were among the 15% of government that was actually shut down, but that WAS NOT the major deciding factor of the election in VA as per the exit polls.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:32 AM (zZbNF)

99 If they don't delay it and we nominate someone who can energize the WHOLE Republican Party next year and in 2016 we stand a good chance of killing this POS.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 07:31 AM (zZbNF)

If that's the only way, I'd say you're effed, Vic.  There is not a single person on the planet, nevermind in the country, who can energize the entirety of the party.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 03:32 AM (fwARV)

100 when all you have is lies you lie.

Hey on a brighter note it's good to see the multiple choice blame game has settled on Tea Party as the answer.

The RNC has done a bang up job with our votes.

Can't wait to see what it does without 'em.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 03:33 AM (9jfyN)

101 If that's the only way, I'd say you're effed, Vic. There is not a single person on the planet, nevermind in the country, who can energize the entirety of the party.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 07:32 AM (fwARV)


Reagan did it twice

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:34 AM (zZbNF)

102 Look I am sorry that you were among the 15% of government that was actually shut down, but that WAS NOT the major deciding factor of the election in VA as per the exit polls.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 07:32 AM (zZbNF)

I agree.  The shutdown may not have affected the election but to claim we didn't mind it ...

You're not normally all the way wrong, Vic, but you were there.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 03:34 AM (fwARV)

103 "53 It's hilarious. Somehow we have to cast Cuccinelli's loss as the fault of those damned purists. This time it's the shutdown, which by the way was over a one-year Obamacare delay which was once the 'sensible' option.

The establishment wanted him to win oh so badly.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 08, 2013 07:07 AM (uhAkr)"



We are now seeing a number of stories positing a variety of reasons that Cuccinelli lost.



I think that I am just going to stick with the "stabbed in the back" theory.



What to do about it?  The answer that I am currently going with is to take revenge on moderate squishes as payback for Cuccinelli. 



Party loyalty either goes both ways or it goes no way.  Moderate squishes want to deny resources and votes to conservatives?  OK.  Fine.  Let's see if you can round up enough moderate squishes to vote for your candidates.  If you ever decide that you want to win elections again, you can demonstrate that with actions after a conservative beats your preferred moderate in a primary.  Until then, I am going for purity.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at November 08, 2013 03:34 AM (BcCwi)

104 10 Vic,

I wonder if we'll suppress our pirates when the Barackeconomy takes full hold?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 03:34 AM (9jfyN)

105 Can't wait to see what it does without 'em. Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 07:33 AM (9jfyN)


McConnell is about to find out.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 03:34 AM (JpC1K)

106 Reagan did it twice

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 07:34 AM (zZbNF)

Reagan DID do it twice.  And he wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell this time around.  The IRCA he signed would be enough to sink him.  Reagan believed the liberals were wrong, but that they were acting in good faith.

We know them to be malicious.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 03:35 AM (fwARV)

107
Poppin' Fresh dreams of the day clownhall buys NRO and puts him in charge.
Posted by: MrScribbler



I imagine Captain Ed pictures himself as the admiral of a vast conservative cruse ship armada. Hot Air, NR and the Weekly Standard all-suite liners -- plying the waves around the world, occasionally emailing in 400 words on sugar subsidies to keep on staff.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2013 03:36 AM (kdS6q)

108 104 I wonder if we'll suppress our pirates when the Barackeconomy takes full hold?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 07:34 AM (9jfyN)


The only thing that is not being suppressed by this corrupt regime are the butt pirates and the Dem cronies.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:37 AM (zZbNF)

109 32 Vic at November 08, 2013 06:59 AM (zZbNF)

It is why I have arrived at the answer "preferably by R but by D if need be...."

McCain and Graham have basically ceded to having Chuck Schumer having editorial oversight to GOP nominees and Obama being allowed to nominate communists.

McCain gang is beyond simply useless they are a malignancy.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 03:37 AM (9jfyN)

110 105 Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 07:34 AM (JpC1K)

Amen.

The Republican party decided sometime around 1996 to be an echo not a choice...

well if we are doomed to be tards let's go counterfactual to Tropic Thunder and go full tard...

I am tired of having my name attached to this idiocy.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 03:39 AM (9jfyN)

111 I think RR could do it because he was a good communicator and could get around the MFM.  And he openly admitted that the amnesty was a mistake after the Democrats failed their half of the bargain.


He fked up, he trusted them.


RR was the last Republican we had who could get around the MFM.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:39 AM (zZbNF)

112 109 McCain and Graham have basically ceded to having Chuck Schumer having editorial oversight to GOP nominees and Obama being allowed to nominate communists.

McCain gang is beyond simply useless they are a malignancy.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 07:37 AM (9jfyN)


Nancy Boy is the major culprit there.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:40 AM (zZbNF)

113
Morning Horde.

Two things. Iran is playing Obama, and Thurston Howell the Turd for a couple chumps. Doing the same thing to them that NK did to Clinton. For the next six months they'll turn up their centrifuges to eleventy, then surprise the world with their shiny new bombs. King Putt will read about it in the NY Times.

Second, I got one of the new hundred dollar bills yesterday. They make Liberace look heterosexual.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 08, 2013 03:40 AM (0IhFx)

114 103 Obnoxious A-hole at November 08, 2013 07:34 AM (BcCwi)

Yup they can make loyalty a two way lane or I will join them in joining the D...

the lesson the GOP taught me in VA was that siding with a Clinton ganger is tres okay if you find the GOP candidate the least bit odious.

Lesson learned.... see you in '16

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 03:41 AM (9jfyN)

115 Get that you yobs? You're too fucking stupid to know what's what. Just leave it to Mitch McConnell. He's got your back - even if you're an idiot.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnd with that interview I think we can all agree that he has torpedoed any chance he had of ever being the Republican nominee.

You have to get the base to vote for you in the primary, and that's tough to do when you call them stupid.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 07:21 AM (JpC1K)


Yeah, I loooooove being told how stupid I am by people who are, with an extraordinarily high probability, objectively far stupider than I.   It's almost as much fun as being told I'm not actually a woman because I don't vote correctly.  

I do not comprehend this piss off the base strategy and I'm speaking in a purely Machiavellian sense here.  A candidate needs the largest coalition possible to win.   Many of those window licking mouth breathers will be a candidate's most loyal foot soldiers if the proper platitudes are spoken.   Speak.  Them.   Make the pointless gestures.   Appear as if you are taking those concerns seriously and attempting to address them even, nay, especially, if you don't care about it. 


Now, from a less Machiavellian position, it could be that such Kinsley gaffes are occurring so frequently now because said base isn't actually stupid and is fed up with being played in precisely the manner set forth above. 

Posted by: alexthechick - Mmmm Snickers at November 08, 2013 03:42 AM (Gk3SS)

116 113 Vic at November 08, 2013 07:40 AM (zZbNF)

That's true but McCain waxes on on Bromides about it as well.

I don't begrudge a dutiful wife following his/her husband...

on some things Lindsey leads and others Juan but in any case both need gone.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 03:43 AM (9jfyN)

117 I thought that this was a good Twitter comment posted on "Hot Air" regarding some of the Obama's lies: Coon Carroll: "I dont get it. Why is Obama apologizing for people losing their insurance? Last week he said they were all junk policies. Was he lying then?"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 03:43 AM (23Kgq)

118 Lesson learned.... see you in '16  Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 07:41 AM (9jfyN)

You remember the old formula for an AAR, right?

1) What was supposed to happen?
2) What happened?
3) Why?
4) What do we change to improve?

They never get past #2.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 03:43 AM (JpC1K)

119 Each GOP hopeful has nothing to gain right now from committing to any particular replacement plan. It's imploding so quickly that "Well what do *you* propose" doesn't even work anymore as a retort. How about the status quo f***tard?

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at November 08, 2013 03:44 AM (09o/X)

120 Annnnnnnnnnnnnd with that interview I think we can all agree that he has torpedoed any chance he had of ever being the Republican nominee. You have to get the base to vote for you in the primary, and that's tough to do when you call them stupid. Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 07:21 AM (JpC1K) If I had to choose between Miss Lindsey & Mitch, I would keep Graham and get rid of Mitch. HeÂ’s a chinless, spineless man and doesnÂ’t belong as the minority leader. He makes deals with Reid & Biden and none are for the good of the US. Graham is just dumb, he isnÂ’t in a leadership position. IÂ’m glad Mitch said that about SCF, does he have same to say about The Madison Project who endorsed Bevin during the summer? Who is running against Graham in primary?

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 03:44 AM (z4WKX)

121 Well I finally found my prescription thing and they are not ready yet.  And I just took my last clopidogral

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:45 AM (zZbNF)

122 They never get past #2.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 07:43 AM (JpC1K)

False.  They have a hard time getting past #1.  When was the last time a liberal was able to give an accurate assessment of what actually happened?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 03:45 AM (fwARV)

123 4 Allergist at 9, Urologist at 10, Colonoscopy next Friday. Almost every orifice to be probed. If I could, I'd go for a full on heart/lung/kidney transplant before I lose my insurance. "Seemed like the doctor was up there doing shadow puppets for five minutes." ~Nick Dipaolo "Like a homeless guy trying to fish a quarter out of a pay phone." ~Nick Dipaolo

Posted by: Citation X driver at November 08, 2013 03:45 AM (Sqmjr)

124 Some people really are getting like a Protestant sect which is so rigid it keeps breaking off from other denominations and ends up with 20 members. Posted by: Donna V. at November 08, 2013 07:19 AM (R3gO3) *** Welcome to the RIP- the Rugged Individualists Party!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 08, 2013 03:45 AM (N/Sup)

125 RR was the last Republican we had who could get around the MFM. RR was an accomplished public speaker, who as a paid spokesperson for GE, went around the country giving motivational speeches. With a smile and a shake of the head, and the words, 'There you go again,' he could disarm the most illogical liberal and convince the audience he knew of what he spoke. He had a gift. Earned from years of actual experience with hundreds of thousands of individuals, not from reading off a teleprompter.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 08, 2013 03:45 AM (U2UQk)

126 obama: "I" was burned by the obamacare website---what an arrogant SOB. G-D I hate that bastard. Morning all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2013 03:46 AM (t3UFN)

127 120 How about the status quo f***tard?

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at November 08, 2013 07:44 AM (09o/X)


How about get rid of this POS and start over from scratch with some Republican input. 


Tort reform


Insurance across state lines


Real cafeteria plans


And zero government involvement

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:46 AM (zZbNF)

128 119 Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 07:43 AM (JpC1K)

It's because you and I and my wife and a lot of us were taught a mission oriented epistemology....

the GOP powers that be are in a "how do I profit" epistemology.

War is war, politics is supposed to be politics, and business business.

The GOP professional class is every bit the graft laden corruptocrat "politics is business" class I was raised to loathe.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 03:47 AM (9jfyN)

129 Who is running against Graham in primary?

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 07:44 AM (z4WKX)

I'll be old enough next cycle...

Speaking of which, are there any Morons who ARE running for elected office?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 03:47 AM (fwARV)

130 And this is da funny regarding Obama's lies-also from someone over at "Hot Air": Classic joke… Brother: “Sister, you’re ugly and stupid.” Sister: “Mother, Brother called me ugly and stupid!” Mother: “Brother, apologize to Sister.” Brother: “Sister, I’M SORRY you’re ugly and stupid.” Marcola on November 8, 2013 at 1:23 AM Obama and his cohorts needed to be called out on their lies and mocked endlessly about Obamacare. Obama is particularly sensitive to mockery

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 03:47 AM (23Kgq)

131 Reagan did it, twice. And Reagan's dead and ain't coming back. And the establishment feels the same way about Cruz as we do about Graham and McConnell. Cruz doesn't have Reagan's charisma. So, no, there really is nobody.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 08, 2013 03:48 AM (R3gO3)

132 Posted by: alexthechick - Mmmm Snickers at November 08, 2013 07:42 AM (Gk3SS) YES! YES! Applauds and hands you another Snickers Seems we are in the same mood today.

Posted by: spypeach at November 08, 2013 03:48 AM (10H0T)

133 >> "It sucked the oxygen out of the room. Instead of talking about Obamacare, we were talking about the shutdown." This is, as they say in the English, an excuse.

Posted by: Andy at November 08, 2013 03:49 AM (0ZQCB)

134 "In 2013, white evangelicals accounted for 27% of VirginiaÂ’s electorate, down from 34% in 2009.  They voted for Cuccinelli at the same rate as they did for McDonnell (a touch more than 8 in 10), there's just relatively fewer of them than there used to be."

Those dastardly establishment Republicans are more powerful than I thought!  They can actually make white evangelicals disappear!

Posted by: Demosthenes at November 08, 2013 03:49 AM (c5AtG)

135 Who is running against Graham in primary?

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 07:44 AM (z4WKX)


Here's the list with the latest two polls (which I do not trust)

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:50 AM (zZbNF)

136 Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2013 07:46 AM (t3UFN) Yep, It'a It's always about him. Somebody let him down. He doesn't give a darn about the website except in so far as he thinks it might make him look bad. He has no possible interest in people losing their plans. He will have superb health insurance until he dies and it's just another move towards single payer and even more control

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 03:50 AM (23Kgq)

137 If it's delayed, we can again fight over it's merits with the Left. Now that people have had a taste they won't be swallowing the Dem lies so easily. If we wait til 2016, with tens if not hundreds of millions enrolled, I doubt we'll ever see it's end. Not that I expect a total delay, but I'd like one.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 08, 2013 03:50 AM (ZshNr)

138 After classes, going to the 77th annual Philadelphia Science Fiction Convention. In Cherry Hill, New Jersey. Oddly, not the dweebiest thing I've done this week. Don't hate me because I'm nerdiful.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at November 08, 2013 03:51 AM (a5ljo)

139 That Abe Lincoln democrat plaque -- are they going to correct it? I know there weasel excuse for adding the word but they are fooling no one.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 08, 2013 03:51 AM (3brsw)

140 135 Demosthenes at November 08, 2013 07:49 AM (c5AtG)

Like I said you want to get into the revolving door of excuses that is okay...

my personal fave is Mooch MacDonald Champion Dam Builder from Kaintuck is the GOP designated thinker...

I am a resultsd based observable paradigm thinker.

The VA GOP donor class backed Hillary!'s Brown Knight...

lesson learned.

If you find the GOP candidate the least bit odious it is okay to back the mule.

Message received.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 03:51 AM (9jfyN)

141 He will have superb health insurance until he dies and it's just another move towards single payer and even more control

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 07:50 AM (23Kgq)

THIS

This has always been the plan.

The Long March through the institutions....

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 03:52 AM (JpC1K)

142 If you are a federal employee, and claim to be a conservative, AND you objected to the government shutdown because you're living paycheck to paycheck, and weren't sure how you were going to make your next paycheck?

You're doing it wrong. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2013 03:52 AM (BeSEI)

143 132 Posted by: Donna V. at November 08, 2013 07:48 AM (R3gO3)


The fact that we can't seem to find anyone remotely like him in 24 years with 300 million people in the country should tell you something about the national Party.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:53 AM (zZbNF)

144 What should have happened during Cruz's so called filibuster is that each Republican Senator should have gone up to tell sob stories about families and women who would be hurt by Obamacare. They knew it was coming. Instead they let him hang out there on his own and blamed him for being out there all alone. People respond to stories. Tell them. They don't even have to be real, ask Cory Booker.

Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2013 03:53 AM (4+AaH)

145 143 -

"make your next MORTGAGE payment," I meant.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2013 03:53 AM (BeSEI)

146 How a few people on a lark created a mascot for Microsoft's Internet Explorer 11.  The story of Aizawa Inori.

http://www.collateralds.com/news/random/the-story-of-aizawa-inori/

In the name of Microsoft I shall punish you!!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 03:53 AM (arQna)

147 I mean ask Senator Cory Booker.

Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2013 03:53 AM (4+AaH)

148 Don't hate me because I'm nerdiful.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at November 08, 2013 07:51 AM (a5ljo)


Does "nerdiful" imply a pencil skirt and naughty librarian glasses?

::: hoping :::

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 03:54 AM (JpC1K)

149
In effort to slow the spread of malicious extensions on Windows devices, Google announced today that it will require all extensions to be hosted in the Chrome Web store, starting in January.

As a result, starting next year, the stable and beta versions of Chrome on Windows will ban non-Chrome Web store extensions.




And not to get their cut of the extension revenue.  Oh, heavens no!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2013 03:54 AM (kdS6q)

150 You're doing it wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2013 07:52 AM (BeSEI)

Yes, well, just out of curiosity - how much did you have in savings after one year of employment?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 03:54 AM (fwARV)

151 Sorry if this is old news, but one of Fox News' resident libs has had quite a revelation: http://t.co/GMPVgeCnbf

Posted by: Gran at November 08, 2013 03:55 AM (mw0FO)

152 1) What was supposed to happen? We were supposed to leave our hide position, bound to our battle position, and support our dismounts dug in on the hill. 2) What happened? We sat in our hide while the LT stuttered on the radio, shoved his map between my face and the gunsight and begged me to call for fire, until our dismounts were wiped out and OPFOR crunchies were actually STANDING ON TOP OF OUR VEHICLE. 3) Why? Because our platoon leader is an incompetent coward who will get us rolled up and murdered in detail if we have to go to war. 4) What do we change to improve? Get a new platoon leader. "Get down and do some fucking pushups, Sergeant! " "Yeah, THAT'LL fucking happen." Platoon sergeant separates us. End scene. Epilogue: LT is transferred to another company where he receives a letter of reprimand for crushing a civilian car with his Bradley.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 08, 2013 03:55 AM (JDIKC)

153 Some people need to be happy they have a job.  Even if they were on a few weeks lay-off yet still got paid.  If we had a sane government 2/3's would be laid-off permanently to trim some of the bloated fat off Washington spending.  (I know it's not real money, just taxpayers money)

Posted by: Case at November 08, 2013 03:55 AM (VctSv)

154 151 -

You're asking the wrong question.  Try again. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2013 03:56 AM (BeSEI)

155 151 Washington Nearsider,

Wife and I took the Redux and have ~6,000 in total savings...

You see we learned our lesson from Ogabe trying to play "Jam the troops" and decided it was worth a potential 10% sacrifice of her pension to be prepared.


Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 03:56 AM (9jfyN)

156 adam baldwin and brent spiner debate gun control on twitter http://tinyurl.com/mo5sjr7

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 03:56 AM (8JJ6O)

157
If you are a federal employee, and claim to be a conservative, AND you objected to the government shutdown because you're living paycheck to paycheck, and weren't sure how you were going to make your next paycheck?
Posted by: BurtTC




But -- I'm a fragile hothouse orchid!  I shall perish in the cold cruel world!


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2013 03:56 AM (kdS6q)

158 Oh shit, it was in the ONT. Never mind.

Posted by: Gran at November 08, 2013 03:57 AM (mw0FO)

159 Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 08, 2013 07:55 AM (JDIKC)

Officers who suck at landnav get their people killed.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 03:57 AM (fwARV)

160 Sorry Carol, I left out the link


http://tinyurl.com/mcwnnz2

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:57 AM (zZbNF)

161 152 Gran at November 08, 2013 07:55 AM (mw0FO)

.......

"yeah"

I think she grasps the rocks are looking bigger in the lifeboat

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 03:57 AM (9jfyN)

162 @ 141:  Three things --

1)  Reality is just a bit more complicated than that.

2)  Even if reality were entirely that simple, you don't get to threaten to walk because you don't like how the other guy acts -- repeatedly -- and then be surprised when the other guy actually walks because he doesn't like how you act.

3)  You need to learn what "epistemology" means.  Gracias.

Posted by: Demosthenes at November 08, 2013 03:58 AM (c5AtG)

163 Morning..  my good friend, Jim,  and singing partner for years (and one of the best guitarists ever) was born into a family with cholesterol issues.  His brother had 3 bypasses before he was 35.

Despite Jim becoming a vegan and living as healthy a lifestyle as he could, he still didn't make it to 40 before his massive heart attack.

So, yeah.. it's genetics more than anything else.  The FDA has no business banning anything.  Put it on the label, and people will decide for themselves.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 08, 2013 03:58 AM (b/lt+)

164 153 Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 08, 2013 07:55 AM (JDIKC)

Hey EoJ...

General Lee I have no OODA Loop!

//Gen Pickett

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 03:58 AM (9jfyN)

165 I do not believe for a minute that white evangelicals disappeared from the voting public at anything like that rate. That's a reduction of 25% from 4 years ago. Simply not credible. I can believe that they did not vote in the election, though. The world, and the Republican Party, are telling evangelicals you are not welcome here. So just as in 2012 they chose not to participate in politics.

Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2013 03:59 AM (4+AaH)

166 You're doing it wrong. I'll say. Someone owns a home and doesn't have a couple months supply of cash on hand? I could tick off a list of common repairs that will eat a two week paycheck in a heartbeat. Even if a tree falls over, the deductible on home owners insurance will ruin a person running finances that tight. I don't have sympathy for anyone working for the government. They never had an ounce of sympathy for me when I had to make a choice every week between paying myself or paying my employees or paying an OSHA fine because employees removed a guard from a tiny little metal grinder.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 08, 2013 03:59 AM (U2UQk)

167 137 He will have superb health insurance until he dies and it's just another move towards single payer and even more control

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 07:50 AM (23Kgq)



This plan IS government single payer.  It is specifically designed to get rid of ALL private and company sponsored plans with that "any change BS".

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 03:59 AM (zZbNF)

168 Thanks for the news Vic!  Good luck with the doc visits, J.J.  My colonoscopy is scheduled for December.. The prep is a joy!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 08, 2013 03:59 AM (b/lt+)

169 If you are a federal employee, and claim to be a conservative, AND you objected to the government shutdown because you're living paycheck to paycheck, and weren't sure how you were going to make your next paycheck?  You're doing it wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2013 07:52 AM (BeSEI)

You're making unwarranted assumptions.  However, since you are, if you don't go in to work today and tell your boss you want to be laid off with no guarantee of repayment so he can boost 1 QTR profits, then you're not being intellectually consistent.  Jus' sayin'  Let's us know how that goes.

I had savings, I made it out fine.  Doesn't change the fact that you're getting jerked around.  But I had two people in my office on the edge of a bankruptcy filing because they had emptied their savings account to care for a terminally ill parent (in one case) and a child with a bad MRSA infection (in the other).  They were screwed.

They're Democrats - and it doesn't fucking matter.  You don't shit on people and turn their lives upside down and then say, "Sorry, it's for the greater good, Comrade."

That's what leftists do. 

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:00 AM (JpC1K)

170 163 Demosthenes at November 08, 2013 07:58 AM (c5AtG

http://tinyurl.com/pj7qp

Defined narrowly, epistemology is the study of knowledge and justified belief. As the study of knowledge, epistemology is concerned with the following questions: What are the necessary and sufficient conditions of knowledge? What are its sources? What is its structure, and what are its limits? As the study of justified belief, epistemology aims to answer questions such as: How we are to understand the concept of justification? What makes justified beliefs justified? Is justification internal or external to one's own mind? Understood more broadly, epistemology is about issues having to do with the creation and dissemination of knowledge in particular areas of inquiry. This article will provide a systematic overview of the problems that the questions above raise and focus in some depth on issues relating to the structure and the limits of knowledge and justification.

You were saying?

I used it to show that the entire mental operating construct differs genius.

Thanks for proving my point BTW.


Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 04:00 AM (9jfyN)

171 I love it. Fox's Eric Bolling says he did not vote for the big government, gun grabbing fat man. http://tinyurl.com/nz43w9b Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 07:00 AM (zZbNF) Thanks for that link, Vic. IÂ’m glad Bolling spoke out. The only ones that want Christie as GOP nominee are people like Rove and the people who I heard on the local news about a half an hour ago that are trying to get Scott Brown to run for senate seat as NH resident. He put his MA home for sale. I believe heÂ’s had a home in NH for years. Scott was a huge disappointment as a senator from MA, he voted with the dems too many times. Why would they seek him out to run in NH? They think base will hold their nose and vote for moderates and theyÂ’ll attract independents. It hasnÂ’t worked out well in past two presidential elections. Establishment never learns. This is why SCF and The Madison Project endorsed Bevin.

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 04:01 AM (z4WKX)

172 You're asking the wrong question. Try again.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2013 07:56 AM (BeSEI)

No.  I'm not.  I ask it because it's relevant.  Scroll up.  I'm coming off of a divorce.  Ask around - those tend to destroy your savings.  I've got one year of fed job under my belt.  My mortgage payment is about 35% of my monthly income.  Cut that income in half, and that percentage skyrockets.

But hey, I'm part of the problem, right?  The TruCons see me in the exact same light in which Obama sees the people losing their health insurance.

Bumps in the road.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:01 AM (fwARV)

173 Sean: Except for special occasions, I wear black T-shirt and khakis. The huge Velma sweater in cold months. And the huge Velma eyeglasses. If you can stitch together a fantasy from that, enjoy. Weirdo.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at November 08, 2013 04:01 AM (a5ljo)

174
According to scientists at Queen Mary University of London and Imperial College London, playing pop and rock music increases the efficiency of solar cells, as the high frequencies and pitch inherent to these genres cause vibrations in the cells that boost energy generation as much as 40 percent.



Yeah.....riiiight.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2013 04:03 AM (kdS6q)

175 Oh and Demo....

I gave hard to McCain a man I hate....

I hate John McCain I cannot stand him going all the way back to Keating Five...

I gave to Romney....

I gave to Bush twice Dole and Bush the elder.

You think I'm the problem no fucking problem I'll remove the problem.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 04:03 AM (9jfyN)

176 166 I do not believe for a minute that white evangelicals disappeared from the voting public at anything like that rate. That's a reduction of 25% from 4 years ago. Simply not credible. I can believe that they did not vote in the election, though. The world, and the Republican Party, are telling evangelicals you are not welcome here. So just as in 2012 they chose not to participate in politics. Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2013 07:59 AM (4+AaH) I wonder if it had more to do with population growth in VA and the massive expansion of the federal government that's been going on under Obama. Evangelicals aren't actually declining but whole new groups of voters are being imported. This is what amnesty will do on a national scale.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 08, 2013 04:03 AM (HEa5q)

177 The huge Velma sweater in cold months. And the huge Velma eyeglasses. Mmm. Linda Cardellini. I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2013 04:04 AM (4+AaH)

178 "The most fiendish of men, the most cowardly, the most treacherous, none of them think of themselves as villains.  They believe themselves to be heroes accomplishing impossible tasks against overwhelming opposition. 

They convince themselves of this by seeing only what they wish to see, robbing words of their meaning, forgetting the real and remembering the false."

     -- Aki No Hashi (1311)


Now someone tell me that's NOT some Japanese warlord describing liberals.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:04 AM (fwARV)

179 166 blaster at November 08, 2013 07:59 AM (4+AaH)

They're good people...I'm a spiteful asshole.

I try to be a decent person like most evangelicals I know but I have a 25 year debit I will see balanced in 2016.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 04:05 AM (9jfyN)

180 169 Thanks for the news Vic! Good luck with the doc visits, J.J. My colonoscopy is scheduled for December.. The prep is a joy!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 08, 2013 07:59 AM (b/lt+)


My next one will be in Dec also. I think this is my last annual one and if my insurance is cancelled next year it will be my last one.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:05 AM (zZbNF)

181 My mortgage payment is about 35% of my monthly income. Despite numerical ratios, around for decades, that advise 25% should be the high end for housing expense? Houston, I think I see the problem.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 08, 2013 04:05 AM (U2UQk)

182 If you can stitch together a fantasy from that, enjoy. Weirdo.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at November 08, 2013 08:01 AM (a5ljo)

I'll say thank you for the visual.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, weirdo at November 08, 2013 04:05 AM (fwARV)

183 Could we just not beat up on people who are here being honest about whatever economic situations they are in? I have a friend who says You really ought to have three years of funds in case you lose your job". It was made a s a general comment not to my situation. That my be fine for people who are making $180, 000 a year (between tow people) and pulling in 20.000 a year on rental property, but for people who go through unexpected difficulties and are making less than half of that after being unemployed for a year, "Pick yourself up by your bootstraps" is neither particularly compassionate nor helpful." I hate the circling fire squad stuff here with people who are on our side

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 04:05 AM (23Kgq)

184 Can someone please point out the exact moment in our cultural history when "I'm (kind of) sorry" became equivalent with "problem solved." Even in a 12-step program that's, you know, ONE STEP.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 08, 2013 04:06 AM (659DL)

185 They're good people...I'm a spiteful asshole. LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 04:06 AM (23Kgq)

186 My mortgage payment is about 35% of my monthly income.

Despite numerical ratios, around for decades, that advise 25% should be the high end for housing expense? Houston, I think I see the problem.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 08, 2013 08:05 AM (U2UQk)

Housing costs should take about 25 percent of your gross monthly pay, or 35 percent of your take-home pay, according to the Home Fair website.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, weirdo at November 08, 2013 04:06 AM (fwARV)

187 Epilogue: LT is transferred to another company where he receives a letter of reprimand for crushing a civilian car with his Bradley.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 08, 2013 07:55 AM (JDIKC)

I had a guy pop our FIST track with a 105mm Sabot during an NTC live fire.

After violating the Division Commander's order that undermanned tank crews would NOT conduct live fire.  (He knocked down is limiting stakes and didn't realize it, partly because he was short the one crew member)  Thank God he used the wrong ammunition.  If he had used HEAT, those three guys would have been dead.

Oh, and in a fitting epilogue to the entire incident, the Corps Commander denied the award of a Solider's Medal to the Arty Lieutenant who climbed back on top of a now burning M-113 to pull the driver out through the driver's hatch.  (What effin' balls.....and upper body strength)

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:07 AM (JpC1K)

188 185 Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 08, 2013 08:06 AM (659DL)

"I did not have hanky panky relations with that woman, Ms Lewinsky..."

//Beijing Billy

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 04:07 AM (9jfyN)

189 If you are already living in Japan and know business level Japanese, here is a web copy editor job that opened for three million Yen/year.

https://jobs.gaijinpot.com/index/view/job_id/89761/lang/en#.UnzhahCM_z9

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 04:07 AM (arQna)

190 184 Could we just not beat up on people who are here being honest about whatever economic situations they are in? I have a friend who says You really ought to have three years of funds in case you lose your job". It was made a s a general comment not to my situation. That my be fine for people who are making $180, 000 a year (between tow people) and pulling in 20.000 a year on rental property, but for people who go through unexpected difficulties and are making less than half of that after being unemployed for a year, "Pick yourself up by your bootstraps" is neither particularly compassionate nor helpful." I hate the circling fire squad stuff here with people who are on our side Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 08:05 AM (23Kgq) this....a million times .....this somethings are actually grey.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 04:07 AM (8JJ6O)

191 167 -

One doesn't even need to be unsympathetic to  those living paycheck to paycheck to understand that you can't decide whether the shutdown was good or not based on how it affected one's personal finances.

The matter is, we have decisions  to make regarding the size of government, and you are either of the opinion that government is too large, or you're not.  If you are a federal employee, you can believe the government is too large, AND worry about where your next mortgage payment is coming from.

What you can't do though, is be opposed to the shutdown BECAUSE you're worried about where your next mortgage payment is coming from, and call yourself a proponent of smaller government. 

I find it the height of absurdity for  anyone, including Cuccinelli's  chief campaign strategist, to try to  separate the shutdown fight from Obamacare.  The two are one and the same. 

(climbs down off soapbox, and gets ready for work)

Have a nice day, people. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2013 04:07 AM (BeSEI)

192 Yes, I'm on the high end.  Yes, that's my choice.

But to then argue that I'm not permitted to acknowledge difficulty forced on me by recalcitrant Democrats seems a bit unnecessary.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:08 AM (fwARV)

193 @ 170

But, but, shutdown...debt ceiling!  Establishment...TrueCons -- and, and also, RINOs, and America!  So what do you have to say to THAT!!!11!!1!!!!1!

</sarc>

On a serious note, yours is the best comment so far.

Posted by: Demosthenes at November 08, 2013 04:08 AM (c5AtG)

194 186 FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 08:06 AM (23Kgq)

I strive to be if nothing else honest.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 04:08 AM (9jfyN)

195 McConnell and especially Graham might lose in '14 and Ill tell you how. If the D's are smart, they'll run 'conservative' Democrats (yes I know it'll be a sham) against McConnell.and Graham. Plus, I'm telling you right now, base turnout will be very low for those two jerks.

Posted by: Bad Apple Soothsayer, Inc. at November 08, 2013 04:08 AM (9eMQw)

196 173 No. I'm not. I ask it because it's relevant. Scroll up. I'm coming off of a divorce. Ask around - those tend to destroy your savings. I've got one year of fed job under my belt. My mortgage payment is about 35% of my monthly income. Cut that income in half, and that percentage skyrockets.

But hey, I'm part of the problem, right? The TruCons see me in the exact same light in which Obama sees the people losing their health insurance.

Bumps in the road.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:01 AM (fwARV)



Doing root cause analysis then the root cause of your problems is the divorce and not the shutdown.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:08 AM (zZbNF)

197 "Those dastardly establishment Republicans are more powerful than I thought! They can actually make white evangelicals disappear!

Posted by: Demosthenes at November 08, 2013 07:49 AM (c5AtG)"



No, but they can withhold money.  And they did. 



The race was close enough that any one of a number of things could have pushed it over the top.  None of those things were done and Democrats won a race that could have been won by a Republican.



When I start seeing party loyalty coming in my direction, I'll start showing in in the other direction.  Until then, it is a matter of if the Republican candidate is pure enough to suit me.  See, that is the thing about trust.  Once you lose it by short sighted betrayal, you have to work extra hard to get it back.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at November 08, 2013 04:08 AM (BcCwi)

198 Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 07:56 AM (9jfyN) Sven, I need a new roof & donÂ’t want another loan. I have auto & mortgage. I took withdrawal from 401(k). Any extra is also staying in savings account. Stock market has been riding high, which means itÂ’s going to go down soon and I donÂ’t want to see balance go down like it did in 2008. I stopped putting money in when TFG was elected and opted to put in savings account. I used a lot to put as down payment on car two years ago.

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 04:08 AM (z4WKX)

199 I hate the circling fire squad stuff here with people who are on our side

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 08:05 AM (23Kgq)

It's part of the deal.  There is only one right way, and it's the speaker's.  I don't mind getting my chops busted for being in a tough spot of my own making. 

What I mind is people saying that because it's of my own making, I don't get to acknowledge it's a tough spot.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:09 AM (fwARV)

200 Avik Roy dissects President Obama's mealy-mouthed apology and finds that in the course of sort-of apologizing for his campaign lie, "if you like it, you can keep it, period," he made a series of other misleading or outright false claims.

The CIC ( That's clown in chief ) lies?
Whodda thunk it. Idiots, all.

Posted by: backhoe at November 08, 2013 04:09 AM (ULH4o)

201 Whatever Sebelius says today, this is the time to forget about the politicians for a few days and work on the LIV's. Mention the website disaster, whatever comes out today, the dropped policies, everywhere it's feasible. Always bring it up like the LIV knows exactly what you're talking about. When people think that the conventional wisdom is changing, they rush to not be left behind.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 08, 2013 04:09 AM (ZshNr)

202 Doing root cause analysis then the root cause of your problems is the divorce and not the shutdown.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 08:08 AM (zZbNF)

Correct.  But the shutdown was an aggrevating factor. 

You (and many, MANY others) continue to argue federal workers weren't affected in any way by the shutdown.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:10 AM (fwARV)

203 Sean: Except for special occasions, I wear black T-shirt and khakis. The huge Velma sweater in cold months. And the huge Velma eyeglasses. If you can stitch together a fantasy from that, enjoy. Weirdo. Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at November 08, 2013 08:01 AM (a5ljo) ----------- Of course he'd bang Velma. Daphne seems the obvious choice, but who knows with these high-maintenance dames? The only thing you can be certain of is a huge dinner and bar tab, trying to get into her unmentionables. Velma, on the other hand, is simple. Like a fork - you pick it up and it just works . And since she spends all her time in Daphne's shadow, you jist know she'll suck your brains right down into your Southern Hemisphere trying to secure some repeat business. Velma: 7/10. Would bang.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 08, 2013 04:10 AM (JDIKC)

204 I wonder if it had more to do with population growth in VA and the massive expansion of the federal government that's been going on under Obama. Evangelicals aren't actually declining but whole new groups of voters are being imported. This is what amnesty will do on a national scale. Population is growing but not that fast. This isn't a demographic problem. It's a voter attraction problem. If the GOP tells evangelicals that they find them distasteful, they should not be surprised if the tastes change. Remember, evangelicals were a big part of the Reagan coalition and they were new to politics. Historically the kingdom they are concerned about is not on earth. Getting them involved was how the Republicans came back from 40 years in the Wilderness. Hanging out a sign that their kind is not wanted here has its consequences. If the GOP thinks that it will make up the difference out of gays and single women by banishing the religious, I hope their computer models are well tuned.

Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2013 04:10 AM (4+AaH)

205 I hate the circling fire squad stuff here with people who are on our side  Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 08:05 AM (23Kgq)


Since time immemorial, purity has always been the goal of the priestly class.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:11 AM (JpC1K)

206 170 -

Read what I wrote again.  That word "if" right there in the front means I wasn't making any assumptions at all. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2013 04:12 AM (BeSEI)

207 Velma: 7/10. Would bang.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 08, 2013 08:10 AM (JDIKC)

^^^^^ This ^^^^^

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:12 AM (fwARV)

208 Velma: 7/10. Would bang.  Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 08, 2013 08:10 AM (JDIKC)


Spewing.  Coffee.  Everywhere.

Oh, and highly astute analysis I might add, Dr. EoJ

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:13 AM (JpC1K)

209 203 You (and many, MANY others) continue to argue federal workers weren't affected in any way by the shutdown.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:10 AM (fwARV)


No started with calling the idiot at NR a pos when he said that was what caused the election loss.  And I said MOST didn't care which is still probably true.


Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:13 AM (zZbNF)

210 "The shutdown sucked the air out of the room"...That's code for "it's the TEA Party's fault" Or "Damn that Ted Cruze". More freaking excuses and lip serves to make us see things their way. Fuck them.

Posted by: walknot at November 08, 2013 04:13 AM (86zol)

211

Mitch McConnell is a filthy corrupt liar.  Him and his stupid dam are 100% the essence of what is wrong with Washington.

 

Matt Bevin sounds pretty good based on his webpage.  He can't be worse than the Searchlight Strangler's houseboy.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 08, 2013 04:13 AM (TpXEI)

212 Since time immemorial, purity has always been the goal of the priestly class.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:11 AM (JpC1K)

It's interesting that the people screaming the loudest about their anger at the elites want nothing more than to be the elites.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:13 AM (fwARV)

213 Looks like voter fraud is alive and well in Virginia. Just when it looked like the R might win... http://www.bradblog.com/?p=10361

Posted by: Gran at November 08, 2013 04:14 AM (mw0FO)

214 55 4 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 06:52 AM (uf1pv) Any specific reason or just normal checkups? Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 07:08 AM (zZbNF) Hey Vic: Sorry for the late reply. Colonoscopy is just my routine (every 3 years), Allergist is every month. The Urologist was a referral from my doctor. Traces of blood in my pee so he wants to check it out. Probably nothing but normal age-related stuff, burst capillary somewhere inside. Thanks for "axing" me!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 04:14 AM (uf1pv)

215 Morning.

Posted by: Mainah at November 08, 2013 04:14 AM (659DL)

216 Now I'm off. Later kids. Keep the fires burning.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 04:15 AM (uf1pv)

217 The real reason for the loss, also based on exit polls appears to be women voters, specifically black women voters around DC.


And that also means it was not a "loss of white evangelicals".

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:15 AM (zZbNF)

218 Earlier this year, a senior Nato decision maker told me that he had seen intelligence reporting that nuclear weapons made in Pakistan on behalf of Saudi Arabia are now sitting ready for delivery.

Last month Amos Yadlin, a former head of Israeli military intelligence, told a conference in Sweden that if Iran got the bomb, "the Saudis will not wait one month. They already paid for the bomb, they will go to Pakistan and bring what they need to bring."

Since 2009, when King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia warned visiting US special envoy to the Middle East Dennis Ross that if Iran crossed the threshold, "we will get nuclear weapons", the kingdom has sent the Americans numerous signals of its intentions.

Posted by: John "Magic Hat" Kerry at November 08, 2013 04:15 AM (e8kgV)

219 Wow, Sean. That dipshit must've hit that FIST-V in the Jesus-approved spot. Lucky for those fellas. Usually these things end with closed caskets.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 08, 2013 04:15 AM (JDIKC)

220 208 Velma: 7/10. Would bang. Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 08, 2013 08:10 AM (JDIKC) ^^^^^ This ^^^^^ Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:12 AM (fwARV) There's a cartoon porn site that has this. Just mentioning for informational purposes only.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 04:16 AM (uf1pv)

221

"The shutdown sucked the air out of the room"...That's code for "it's the TEA Party's fault" Or "Damn that Ted Cruze". More freaking excuses and lip serves to make us see things their way. Fuck them.

 

The TEA party should have listened to us about the shutdown, and ignored us about Cuccinelli when we wrote him off.

Posted by: The Punditry at November 08, 2013 04:16 AM (TpXEI)

222

In 2013, white evangelicals accounted for 27% of VirginiaÂ’s electorate, down from 34% in 2009. They voted for Cuccinelli at the same rate as they did for McDonnell (a touch more than 8 in 10), there's just relatively fewer of them than there used to be.

 

Fewer in total, or merely fewer showing up at the polls?  There is an important difference between the two - fewer showing up can be fixed, while fewer in total cannot.

Posted by: steveegg at November 08, 2013 04:16 AM (o44nj)

223
The huge Velma sweater in cold months. And the huge Velma eyeglasses. If you can stitch together a fantasy from that, enjoy. Weirdo.
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck




A quick google image search for "sexy Velma" will show just how common that fantasy is.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2013 04:16 AM (kdS6q)

224 215 The Urologist was a referral from my doctor. Traces of blood in my pee so he wants to check it out. Probably nothing but normal age-related stuff, burst capillary somewhere inside.

Thanks for "axing" me!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 08:14 AM (uf1pv)


I had to go to one for that very thing a few months ago.  He was from NYC BTW.  Moved down here because of all the NY regulations.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:17 AM (zZbNF)

225 Godspeed Officer Jeremy Henwood of San Diego, gunned down sitting in his patrol car.  And three minutes before he was killed, Henwood performed an act of kindness that has left a lasting impression on a 13yr old boy.

http://tinyurl.com/7abbgaj

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 04:18 AM (arQna)

226 Hmmm. Conversation has moved to blood in your pee. Bad direction. Kate Upton in body paint.

Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2013 04:18 AM (4+AaH)

227 It's interesting that the people screaming the loudest about their anger at the elites want nothing more than to be the elites.  Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:13 AM (fwARV)

On a nominally "conservative" web site I generally expect riffs on the Burkean theme of the "little Platoons" however it is stangely absent here.

Everything here is a variation on a theme of "I got mine, now fuck you."  Man is truly homo economicus.

Everyone pursues their rational self-interest.  Which is fine, I just generally don't wish people ill based on their membership in a certain economic or professional class.

Evidently this makes me "not conservative."

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:18 AM (JpC1K)

228 A quick google image search for "sexy Velma" will show just how common that fantasy is.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2013 08:16 AM (kdS6q)


See?!?!?  I'm not a weirdo!

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:18 AM (JpC1K)

229 to all the gov't workers: next time there is a shutdown call all your creditors and inform them of your situation and provide them with the necessary proof that you are in fact affected by the shutdown.....notations will be made on your accounts, late charges will be waived for late payments.....payment plans will be established....you need to keep notes and ask for the arrangements in writing....emails and fax's to all non gov't workers....you are screwed when you get laid off but in good faith anytime you're economic situation changes for the worse, contact your creditors.....they will work with you until they can't.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 04:18 AM (8JJ6O)

230 @ 171 and 176

What I find hilarious is that you posted a snippet from the SEP article that, if you actually understood what you're reading, might as well say that "sven doesn't know what he's talking about."  How you say you are using the word is quite different from how the word is supposed to be used.  I have some idea, because I went to grad school, in philosophy, and worked with an actual epistemologist.

And assuming you're actually telling the truth about candidates you gave to, good for you.  But there were also some members of the "donor class" you hate so much that sucked it up and still gave to Cuccinelli, so the game can be played both ways.  And if you're in the middle of the whole "Let It Burn" and "this party, of which I am no longer a part" and "Let's get rid of all the RINOS" crusades (where RINO is defined as "any Republican who does even just one thing that I don't like"), then yeah, you're as much a part of the problem as the establishment guys who take their money and go home.

We need to be trying to defeat Democrats, not each other.

Posted by: Demosthenes at November 08, 2013 04:19 AM (c5AtG)

231 And if I was a member of this so-called "purity" brigade I would not have voted for McShitty and Romney.  Had to stand in line in the rain to vote for McShitty.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:19 AM (zZbNF)

232 No started with calling the idiot at NR a pos when he said that was what caused the election loss. And I said MOST didn't care which is still probably true.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 08:13 AM (zZbNF)

The NR writer's a didlo, no arguments.  He's also wrong.

Maybe my anecdotal experiences don't count too much, but there are only a handful of people in my office who weren't stretched thin.  Everyone GS-11 and below was hurting. 

Systemic problems with the way we as a society view and handle money?  Probably. 

That still leads us right back to what I said earlier.  We're feds.  We're SUPPOSED to be the casualties in the TruCon offensive.  Quite a few people here see 'federal workers' as a single entity, much like Democrats see Republicans (and especially conservatives) as a single [racist] entity.  We're all leeches, we're all the problem and we're all obstacles to be removed.

That's simply not true.  As with almost everything else, there are degrees, variations and individual circumstances which are immeasurable in their diversity. 

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:19 AM (fwARV)

233 135 "In 2013, white evangelicals accounted for 27% of VirginiaÂ’s electorate, down from 34% in 2009. They voted for Cuccinelli at the same rate as they did for McDonnell (a touch more than 8 in 10), there's just relatively fewer of them than there used to be." Those dastardly establishment Republicans are more powerful than I thought! They can actually make white evangelicals disappear! Posted by: Demosthenes at November 08, 2013 They actually DID disappear, there has been big outflows from VA to red states and inflows from blue states.

Posted by: traye at November 08, 2013 04:19 AM (0Tj5D)

234 You (and many, MANY others) continue to argue federal workers weren't affected in any way by the shutdown. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:10 AM (fwARV) I don't think its that we are not sympathetic to your financial difficulty, it's just that Government workers are not special butterflies, shit is happening to everyone including people in the private sector. People get laid off, lose their hours, take pay cuts, lose their insurance etc... The issue I think for some of us is that to say the shutdown is why Cuccinelli lost the election just does not seem to square with the facts. Also, in case of another shut down it might be good for you to know that you can go up to 15 days past your due date before getting a late fee and you can go up to 30 days before going to collections. You can also call your mortgage company and ask for an extension, they will usually do this once a year.

Posted by: spypeach at November 08, 2013 04:20 AM (10H0T)

235 For the first time in a long timeI had Prime Rib last night at a local steakhouse. It was sinewy. Prime Rib is not supposed to be hard to chew. I am Still dissatisfied.

Posted by: Bad Apple Soothsayer, Inc. at November 08, 2013 04:21 AM (YV0mz)

236 See?!?!? I'm not a weirdo! Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:18 AM (JpC1K) Conjecture.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 08, 2013 04:21 AM (659DL)

237 Evidently this makes me "not conservative."

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:18 AM (JpC1K)

For me, the lesson here is 'don't offer any snippets into you life at the HQ.'  Someone will tell me I'm doing it wrong and explain why I'm not conservative either.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:21 AM (fwARV)

238 Sean, will I have to redeploy the cosplay weather girls link?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 04:21 AM (arQna)

239 Wow, Sean. That dipshit must've hit that FIST-V in the Jesus-approved spot.

Went in right behind the driver, at a slight angle into the engine block.  About 3 inches to the left and it would have left the driver in two neat, clean little pieces.

Talk about "kinetic."  That sabot was moving a mile a second.  It didn't hit the driver, it just left a line of 2d degree burns across his lower back.  And his MOPP suit looked like Zorro had taken a clean slice out of it.

Freaky.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:21 AM (JpC1K)

240

I hate the circling fire squad stuff here with people who are on our side Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 08:05 AM (23Kgq)

 

I'm hating this too. In the WSJ comments, there's some Establishment guy who is accusing Tea Partiers of being funded by Soros. Yeah, that's why they're getting targeted by the IRS.

 

 And here I'm hearing that NRO isn't sufficiently pure. And the lefties are laughing their asses off.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 08, 2013 04:21 AM (R3gO3)

241 233 That's simply not true. As with almost everything else, there are degrees, variations and individual circumstances which are immeasurable in their diversity.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:19 AM (fwARV)


My father worked for the government at a SAC base. Also two of my brothers at the same base.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:22 AM (zZbNF)

242 what the heck is a "white evangelical" anyway?

Posted by: Bad Apple Soothsayer, Inc. at November 08, 2013 04:22 AM (YV0mz)

243 I have some idea, because I went to grad school, in philosophy, and worked with an actual epistemologist. ----------- I know a guy with a degree in philosophy. He cuts grass. Ever see a help wanted ad for Epistemologist?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 08, 2013 04:22 AM (JDIKC)

244 Conjecture.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 08, 2013 08:21 AM (659DL)

I thought for sure you're say, "Objection!  Assumes facts not in evidence!"

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:22 AM (JpC1K)

245 For me, the lesson here is 'don't offer any snippets into you life at the HQ.' Someone will tell me I'm doing it wrong and explain why I'm not conservative either. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:21 AM (fwARV) ((washington nearsider))

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 04:23 AM (8JJ6O)

246 I know a guy with a degree in philosophy. He cuts grass. Ever see a help wanted ad for Epistemologist?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 08, 2013 08:22 AM (JDIKC)

That's Greek for, "barista."  Right?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:23 AM (JpC1K)

247

If you have a gov job of any kind you are the problem. No exceptions. Don't get all butt hurt, admit it and move on.

Counter-economics is the future.

Posted by: The Palm Beach Agorist at November 08, 2013 04:23 AM (8DSFE)

248 Before moving along with the day, muh dear frenz, thought I'd share my two most recent vid webworks icymi. DWS's recent bout of gibberish given the rap treatment, or something. Just a minute. I had fun, anyway. http://mindfulwebworks.com/radical/myzled-by-the-prezident More soberly, a reworking of vids & pix from Wash DC, Oc 13, linked in nic. Most of the source media I found linked from here that day. Watch past the credits if you watch. 10 precious minutes of your attention.

Posted by: mindful webworker - crackpot ... in the old sense at November 08, 2013 04:23 AM (Bhdia)

249 We need to be trying to defeat Democrats, not each other.[./i] Agreed. But you note that some of the donor class did not bail. Some. Fine, but I have been saying for a bit that the butthurt of the establishment types when they get beat is the problem. Now, they would say that beating them is the problem. If a Republican turns on his party's chosen candidate, is it surprising when that candidate loses? No. Teamwork requires all of the folks on the team. It has been way too much of a one way street. I ask, do you believe for one minute that Cuccinelli would have not endorsed Bolling had he lost a primary?

Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2013 04:23 AM (4+AaH)

250 241 And here I'm hearing that NRO isn't sufficiently pure. And the lefties are laughing their asses off.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 08, 2013 08:21 AM (R3gO3)


I still monitor NRO daily for links.  They are OK.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:24 AM (zZbNF)

251 From bunk to barrel. Crap.

Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2013 04:24 AM (4+AaH)

252 Posted by: spypeach at November 08, 2013 08:20 AM (10H0T)

No, we're not special butterflies.  If I'm being totally honest, I would have preferred to NOT get paid retroactively.  I didn't DO anything to earn those dollars.  Was it hard for a month?  Yup.  Would it have been harder without the back pay?  Yup.  But I'd have made it.  I have family, I have a support network.  Hell, I'm willing to bet that if I got desperate, some of the 'ettes would contribute to the Nearsider Bailout. 

I've never argued the shutdown swung the election.  It didn't affect it in the slightest based on anectdotal and empirical data.  It DID affect people though.  Real people - not just faceless feds.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:25 AM (fwARV)

253 From bunk to barrel. Crap.  Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2013 08:24 AM (4+AaH)


Cochran left a bunk in the barrel the last time he was in there.  So you're good.

Just don't put your feet on the floor.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:26 AM (JpC1K)

254 ^^^^^ This ^^^^^ Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:12 AM (fwARV) *fistbump* Everyone pursues their rational self-interest. Which is fine, I just generally don't wish people ill based on their membership in a certain economic or professional class. Evidently this makes me "not conservative." Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:18 AM (JpC1K) You know how I view it? As being akin to being me and reading some of the more, hmmm, how to elide this, lively discussions of certain social issues. People tend to not want to accept that those things that they are saying, they are saying about me. I leave it to your imagination to fill in the contents of the comments I type and then delete. Or, to step away from that example, how about the generational wars or the kerfuffle last night about teenage boys? When discussing broad generalities, specific counters get caught in the same net. It's incredibly difficult to be the counter example and to try not to take broad statements as personal attacks. I know my success at that is intermittent, at best.

Posted by: alexthechick - Up the highway not across the road at November 08, 2013 04:26 AM (VtjlW)

255
Ever see a help wanted ad for Epistemologist?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag




Wouldn't an Epistemologist already "know" his help was wanted without the ad?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2013 04:26 AM (kdS6q)

256 I know a guy with a degree in philosophy. He cuts grass. I know a guy with a degree in philosophy, he details cars. So you could say he gets to actually use his degree when he waxes philosophical.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 08, 2013 04:26 AM (U2UQk)

257 So, how many people have already lost insurance and anyone know how many it is projected to before the employer mandate kicks in? Anybody here know? I am going to make that part of my whiteboard sign for today along with "Obama keeping his promise to fundamentally transform America"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 04:26 AM (23Kgq)

258 Nearsider what is your schedule at work? Cause I sure see you a lot around here at differing times every day.

Posted by: Earl Turner at November 08, 2013 04:26 AM (VrVBw)

259 Real people - not just faceless feds. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:25 AM (fwARV) pictures, or you are just a faceless fed/////

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 04:26 AM (8JJ6O)

260 Talk about "kinetic." That sabot was moving a mile a second. It didn't hit the driver, it just left a line of 2d degree burns across his lower back. And his MOPP suit looked like Zorro had taken a clean slice out of it.

Freaky.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:21 AM (JpC1K)

That guy's kids better cure fucking cancer... Holy shit...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:27 AM (fwARV)

261 That's Greek for, "barista." Right?
Posted by: Sean Bannion

It means "Patty Turner"

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at November 08, 2013 04:27 AM (S5LPT)

262 Posted by: Bad Apple Soothsayer, Inc. at November 08, 2013 07:08 AM (9eMQw) Who's in for a shock? Neither Cornyn, Graham, nor Alexander have well-funded primary challengers yet, and it's getting late in the day for one to emerge.

Posted by: Boone at November 08, 2013 04:27 AM (tIyK2)

263 Posted by: Donna V. at November 08, 2013 08:21 AM (R3gO3) Between Soros and Koch Brothers shouldn't I be getting a check?!?

Posted by: RWC at November 08, 2013 04:27 AM (fWAjv)

264 It DID affect people though. Real people - not just faceless feds. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:25 AM (fwARV)

::: bitch slap :::

::: kick in the ribs :::

No!  No!  No!

ALL feds are nameless and faceless!  They all suck!  GET IT!

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:27 AM (JpC1K)

265 I know a guy with a degree in philosophy, he details cars. So you could say he gets to actually use his degree when he waxes philosophical. Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 08, 2013 08:26 AM (U2UQk) my car insurance guy has a degree in philosophy.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 04:28 AM (8JJ6O)

266 If you gov worker types think you are being beat up here, just think about the few lawyer Morons we have.


But nobody has admitted to being a used car salesman yet.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:28 AM (zZbNF)

267 Nearsider what is your schedule at work? Cause I sure see you a lot around here at differing times every day.

Posted by: Earl Turner at November 08, 2013 08:26 AM (VrVBw)

I investigate stimulus fraud, so it's varied.  Some days are 14-hour slogs, some days are cake walks. 

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:28 AM (fwARV)

268 I just got a call from the nurse at the rehab my brother is in. He had a fever of 102 and they called EMTs to take him to ER, he refused. Fever went up to 104. They finally persuaded him to go to the hospital. I called him yesterday, he was in good sprits and is having both PT and OT, they stopped both in late August. He made some improvements, moving his toe and then all his toes the day after I left ME from my visit there. I called hotel to ask it they had openings week of Thanksgiving. Man told me they do and if IÂ’m going heÂ’ll reduce room rate by $10 night or more if IÂ’m going to visit relative in hospital. They were full one night on October 23, the day I was there. A lot of hotels were booked because people go there to see the foliage. Now IÂ’m going to have to wait for them to tell me he still has pneumonia. I told Paul last night IÂ’d go there day before Thanksgiving if he continues to make progress in PT. He said they were impressed with progress heÂ’s made since last time they worked with him. He wasnÂ’t back in rehab 8 days.

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 04:28 AM (z4WKX)

269 pictures, or you are just a faceless fed/////

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 08:26 AM (8JJ6O)

Now, see, had you attended the NoVaMoMee, you'd know better :-)

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:28 AM (fwARV)

270 This is turning into a whine fest and a pity party. Smell ya later, homos.

Posted by: Bad Apple Soothsayer, Inc. at November 08, 2013 04:29 AM (YV0mz)

271 257 'groan'

I have a degree in Philosophy and Eastern Religions but luckily I put myself through school as a Master Machinist.

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at November 08, 2013 04:29 AM (S5LPT)

272 If you gov worker types think you are being beat up here, just think about the few lawyer Morons we have.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 08:28 AM (zZbNF)

Touche.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:29 AM (fwARV)

273 Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 08, 2013 08:26 AM (U2UQk) I have a degree in philosophy and earn six figures. It's not the gun, it's how you shoot it.

Posted by: Boone at November 08, 2013 04:29 AM (tIyK2)

274 Wouldn't an Epistemologist already "know" his help was wanted without the ad? Oh, SNAP!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 08, 2013 04:29 AM (JDIKC)

275 I know my success at that is intermittent, at best.  Posted by: alexthechick - Up the highway not across the road at November 08, 2013 08:26 AM (VtjlW)

::: slides platter of lemon squares :::

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:29 AM (JpC1K)

276 258 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 08:26 AM (23Kgq)


I saw a headline yesterday that the number was up to 4M now.  When the employer mandate kicks in Jan 1 since somewhere around 50% have that that number will become huge.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:30 AM (zZbNF)

277 >> Could we just not beat up on people who are here being honest about whatever economic situations they are in? This x1,000

Posted by: Andy at November 08, 2013 04:30 AM (0ZQCB)

278 I see we are still doing the Tidy Bowl Titanic.  Circling the drain and punching each other instead of Gung-ho!

Back to writing.  Eight Corners of the World Under One Roof and all that.  And I need to catch up to Merovign and Gregory on NaNoWriMo.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 04:30 AM (arQna)

279 Now, see, had you attended the NoVaMoMee, you'd know better :-) Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:28 AM (fwARV) if i still lived in md, i would have.....but i'm 13 yrs removed from there.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 04:30 AM (8JJ6O)

280 Cause I sure see you a lot around here at differing times every day. You see me a lot too. i am the fabulously wealthy illegitimate child of one of the Duponts. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 04:30 AM (23Kgq)

281 281 So, a member of the Legion?

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at November 08, 2013 04:31 AM (S5LPT)

282 263 Who's in for a shock? Neither Cornyn, Graham, nor Alexander have well-funded primary challengers yet, and it's getting late in the day for one to emerge.

Posted by: Boone at November 08, 2013 08:27 AM (tIyK2)


Its still far to early for that.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:31 AM (zZbNF)

283 I have a degree in philosophy and earn six figures. It's not the gun, it's how you shoot it.  Posted by: Boone at November 08, 2013 08:29 AM (tIyK2)

THIS.

It's not the arrow, it's the Indian.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:31 AM (JpC1K)

284 Minnie Riperton (http://youtu.be/kE0pwJ5PMDg )

--

La la la la la....la la la la la...la la la la la la la la la...
Doo n doo doo oooh...
{bird whistles}

Yeah, I don't have much to contribute this morning.  However, Minnie Ripperton's name does invoke high school flashbacks. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 08, 2013 04:32 AM (XB5Ak)

285 @ 198

"The race was close enough that any one of a number of things could have pushed it over the top. None of those things were done and Democrats won a race that could have been won by a Republican."

Like, if the government hadn't been shut down?  Like, if the Republican candidate had been nominated in a primary instead of at a convention?  And sure, like if the money men had given at their normal rates.  But again, this is a sword that cuts both ways.

"When I start seeing party loyalty coming in my direction, I'll start showing in in the other direction."

And I'm sure you'll feel justified when Democrats maintain and expand their hold on both power and the federal government.  It doesn't matter if it leads to less freedom for us and greater misery, debt, and waste for the nation as a whole.  I mean, at least you stuck it to the nasty RINO establishment types, amirite?

Oh, but Mike Castle stayed home and wouldn't support Christine O'Donnell publicly (and other, similar cases)!  Well, so the hell what?  If Mike Castle jumped off a bridge, would you follow him out of spite?  You are judged based on YOUR actions -- what makes it immature and whiny when he does it, and a marvelously principled stand when you do it?

If my district nominates nothing but Todd Akin-esque candidates all down the ticket next cycle, I will privately bitch about having to vote for them.  But I still will, even if I don't think they're a good candidate, as long as I think they're the best candidate in the field.  Because that's what we should be concerned with.  No protest votes, no staying home, because having someone that agrees with me 70%-80% of the time as my representative is far better than having someone who agrees with me 0-20% of the time.

Enough of this.  I'm going to work.

Posted by: Demosthenes at November 08, 2013 04:32 AM (c5AtG)

286 if i still lived in md, i would have.....but i'm 13 yrs removed from there.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 08:30 AM (8JJ6O)

So.... that makes you.... *carries the two*... 28?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:32 AM (fwARV)

287 As a gun owner I am only a racist and TFG doesn't care what I think, but I heartily endorse Vic's views on Jane Fonda. I think she is a traitor who needs to duck off.

Posted by: MTF at November 08, 2013 04:32 AM (F58x4)

288 I've never argued the shutdown swung the election. It didn't affect it in the slightest based on anectdotal and empirical data. It DID affect people though. Real people - not just faceless feds. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:25 AM (fwARV) My apologies then, I thought you were arguing that it affected Cuccinelli losing. And when I said Government workers are not special butterflies I wasn't trying to be rude, just pointing out that a lot of us are hurting under this administration. Sometimes things come across not as intended when you type them out. I think most everyone here does care about each other and would certainly give a helping hand to any of our moron friends. Times are tense right now and everyone is on a hair trigger. I hope you take that advice about the mortgage to heart, I used to work for the mortgage industry and this holds true for most mortgage lenders.

Posted by: spypeach at November 08, 2013 04:33 AM (10H0T)

289 if i still lived in md, i would have.....but i'm 13 yrs removed from there..... Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 08:30 AM (8JJ6O)

some people flew in for that event.

Jus' sayin'

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:33 AM (JpC1K)

290 It's not the arrow, it's the Indian.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:31 AM (JpC1K)

I was about to ask 'the dot or the feather' but then I read it again...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:33 AM (fwARV)

291 So.... that makes you.... *carries the two*... 28? Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:32 AM (fwARV) bless you my child......i'm not a smib, by the time i left i had all four of my children...

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 04:34 AM (8JJ6O)

292 After finishing the Firefly series this summer, I put off watching Serenity until now. I get why people were disappointed that it was cancelled, plenty of worse shows out there every season. One final dose before I've exhausted the ouvre.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 08, 2013 04:34 AM (ZshNr)

293 I have a degree in philosophy and earn six figures. It's not the gun, it's how you shoot it. A play on words. I'll type slower so you get it. An auto detailer washes a car thoroughly, then waxes the car. So the intent was to incorporate the punch line 'wax philosophic' into the punch line. The only proper response was a *groan*

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 08, 2013 04:35 AM (U2UQk)

294 bannion now there's an idea!

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 04:35 AM (8JJ6O)

295

some people flew in for that event.

Jus' sayin'

osted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:33 AM (JpC1K)

The committed ones, anyway. 

:-)

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:35 AM (fwARV)

296 Who's in for a shock? Neither Cornyn, Graham, nor
Alexander have well-funded primary challengers yet, and it's getting
late in the day for one to emerge.

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As for Graham, even if his challengers were well-funded, it would only be a drop in the bucket of the kinds of cash he has access to.  Heck, even W donated $5K to him a couple weeks ago.  If Graham loses, it won't be necessarily for the other person as much as it's going to be to get him the hell out.  Just my opinion, mind you.  Hopefully, there are enough of us that want him out to get the job done.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 08, 2013 04:36 AM (XB5Ak)

297 bless you my child......i'm not a smib, by the time i left i had all four of my children...

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 08:34 AM (8JJ6O)

Oh.  Okay, so 35. 

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:36 AM (fwARV)

298 The committed ones, anyway.  :-)    Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:35 AM (fwARV)


I think we'd all agree that most of us there should be committed.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:36 AM (JpC1K)

299 AND... Tort reform, capping malpractice and allowing insurance to be purchased across state lines. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2013 06:54 AM (uf1pv) I had a "discussion" with a semi-liberal about states' rights and the Constitution yesterday. I pointed out that it is a bit of hypocrisy for the feds to say that health care is a federal issue to be regulated by them but then say that insurance needs to stay within state borders. You can't have it both ways.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 08, 2013 04:36 AM (rpnNZ)

300 Assuming the story about the cops tasering the father for trying to rescue his son has been posted here? If not http://tinyurl.com/lpjjvf2 The fire started early in the morning on Oct. 31 in the Miller’s Louisiana, Mo., home. Parents Catherine and Ryan Miller put Riley to bed, then reportedly fell asleep while watching television near the back of the home. Catherine awoke to the smell of smoke. Ryan Miller attempted to rush back into this Missouri home, hoping to save his 3-year-old stepson. Ryan Miller attempted to rush back into this Missouri home, hoping to save his 3-year-old stepson. RELATED: 12-YEAR-OLD BOY RACES INTO BURNING HOUSE TO SAVE SIBLINGS, FAMILY PETS The mom and dad attempted to rush into Riley’s room, but the heat and smoke blocked their path. The Millers scrambled out a back door. Ryan kicked in the front door and was about to enter when he was tasered — twice, according to Louisiana officials, although the Millers claim the man was shocked three times. But Ryan wouldn’t sit still. "I was hysterical, yes, because I wanted to save my son," Ryan told the Louisiana Press Journal. Fire officials suspect the blaze was caused by an electrical mishap. Fire officials suspect the blaze was caused by an electrical mishap. The fire chief then made the call to have Ryan handcuffed and taken to the police station. “Fire officials felt he was compromising the scene and wasn’t following their directions,” City Administrator Bob Jenne told The News.

Posted by: RWC at November 08, 2013 04:37 AM (fWAjv)

301 Posted by: spypeach at November 08, 2013 08:33 AM (10H0T)

No, you didn't come off as rude.  No one has, really. 

I just offered a bit of my personal life and then had to answer for it.  My fault :-)

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:37 AM (fwARV)

302 I approve of that Time cover. Always thought Tame Impala's "Elephant" would be a great campaign song for Christie in 2016. But he'll probably use Bruce Springsteen's music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H570ifQfpDk Well, he feels like an elephant Shaking his big grey trunk for the hell of it He knows that you're dreaming about being loved by him. Too bad your chances are slim.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 08, 2013 04:38 AM (Y92Nd)

303 I think we'd all agree that most of us there should be committed.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:36 AM (JpC1K)

Um.  Yes. 

I'm committed.  To drinking.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:38 AM (fwARV)

304 When I find out some more info about Nancy Boy's two challengers and if I am still around next year I will send donation and volunteer for the one who looks like the best.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:38 AM (zZbNF)

305 I pointed out that it is a bit of hypocrisy for the feds to say that health care is a federal issue to be regulated by them but then say that insurance needs to stay within state borders. You can't have it both ways.  Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 08, 2013 08:36 AM (rpnNZ)


It's so cute that you think that.

Posted by: Kathleen Sebilius[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:38 AM (JpC1K)

306 The employer mandate kicks in in Jan? I am terminally dense this morning; Sorry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 04:38 AM (23Kgq)

307 Thank you, Bannion *noms* Carol, prayers for you and yours. I'm still trying to figure out why everyone acting as if the VA loss is somehow binary. It's not. I mean, that is insanely obvious to me, it's not because life isn't. Cuccinelli was a bad candidate who was treated shoddily by Bolling and whose positions were grossly misrepresented by the Dems and who, yes, it's true, did not receive nearly the financial backing from the RNC as prior candidates and who was also in a race with a third party spoiler. As best I can tell, all of that is true and all of that contributed. Looking for some magic bullet solution is pointless. All of those areas need to be addressed. Yes, prioritizing the issues is important, but what I see is a lot of if only this then that. Well. Maybe. But probably not.

Posted by: alexthechick - Up the highway not across the road at November 08, 2013 04:38 AM (VtjlW)

308 I investigate stimulus fraud, so it's varied. Some days are 14-hour slogs, some days are cake walks.



Holy crap, you should be busy 24/7/365!

Just sayin'....


Posted by: EC at November 08, 2013 04:39 AM (GQ8sn)

309 Morning!

Posted by: EC at November 08, 2013 04:39 AM (GQ8sn)

310 Well, in a minute.  First this, @ 244 and all comments following:

"I know a guy with a degree in philosophy. He cuts grass. Ever see a help wanted ad for Epistemologist?"

Well, I've seen quite a few job ads for epistemologists.  Do those count?

I'm perfectly willing to rag on philosophers, because I'd wager I've known more of them than you have and so I have a far greater contempt for them than any of you ever could.  That doesn't mean that philosophy itself isn't worth knowing -- read Ayn Rand's address to the graduating class at West Point for a great defense that it's the subject that matters most.  And when I see people misusing philosophical terms, I do take it upon myself to let them know.

If that strikes you as funny, fine.  And now I really do have to go to work.

Posted by: Demosthenes at November 08, 2013 04:39 AM (c5AtG)

311 Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 08:37 AM (fwARV)

Forgot to tell you....

DoD is gearing up for VERA/VSIP.  Stay tuned.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:39 AM (JpC1K)

312 301 Posted by: RWC at November 08, 2013 08:37 AM (fWAjv)


I posted it far up thread.  My take was I didn't know which side I would come down on.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:40 AM (zZbNF)

313 I investigate stimulus fraud, so it's varied. Some days are 14-hour slogs, some days are cake walks.



Holy crap, you should be busy 24/7/365!

Just sayin'....

Posted by: EC at November 08, 2013 08:39 AM (GQ8sn)

We posit that about 45% of the stimulus money has disappeard due to waste, fraud or abuse...

Go figure. 

Busting those people?  It's nice.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:41 AM (fwARV)

314 307 I am terminally dense this morning; Sorry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 08:38 AM (23Kgq)


Unless things change between now then yes.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:41 AM (zZbNF)

315 posted by: alexthechick - Up the highway not across the road at November 08, 2013 08:38 AM (VtjlW) Well said.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 04:41 AM (23Kgq)

316 What if we named all sports teams, "Honkeys" or "Crackers" or "Gringos" or "White Devils" would that be enough to shut these freaks up??


No...it never is. The Leftist agenda is a never ending death spiral of PC bullshit.


Is Mars open for business yet?


Morn' Ya'll

Posted by: dananjcon at November 08, 2013 04:42 AM (wmU4G)

317
Always thought Tame Impala's "Elephant" would be a great campaign song for Christie in 2016.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane




"Baby Elephant Walk" by Henry Mancini,



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2013 04:42 AM (kdS6q)

318 DoD is gearing up for VERA/VSIP. Stay tuned.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:39 AM (JpC1K)

Noted.  Thanks.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:42 AM (fwARV)

319 Vic, is there a reason that you think you wonÂ’t be here next year? Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 04:43 AM (z4WKX)

320 DoD is gearing up for VERA/VSIP. Stay tuned. Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:39 AM (JpC1K) So, is it not a good idea to join the Guard or Reserves right now?

Posted by: Mainah at November 08, 2013 04:43 AM (659DL)

321 Busting those people? It's nice.


Oh man....I'd be all, "You got served, bitzzaatch!!!!   I will accept 2 minutes of begging, then it's off to the pokey."


Posted by: EC at November 08, 2013 04:43 AM (GQ8sn)

322 So when did Jeff realize he plays for the other team? Has he made a pass at anyone yet?

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 08, 2013 04:43 AM (3brsw)

323 The President is a narcissitic freak, completely incapable of basic humility and empathy. Seriously, he shouldn't be in office, he should be in therapy.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 08, 2013 04:44 AM (bS6uW)

324
If that strikes you as funny, fine. And now I really do have to go to work.
Posted by: Demosthenes




"Off to catch the early bus to the Agora!  Later haters!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2013 04:44 AM (kdS6q)

325 So, is it not a good idea to join the Guard or Reserves right now? Posted by: Mainah at November 08, 2013 08:43 AM (659DL)

Has nothing to do with green suiters.  Get thee to a recruiter.

I think you should request that both Washington Nearsider and I swear you in.

Pudding dipping to immediately follow.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:44 AM (JpC1K)

326 Btw, it's Captain's birthday as well. What I don't get is Cuccinelli, fought the good fight against Mann, against Obamacare, he muted his effort during the campaign

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 08, 2013 04:44 AM (2kpL8)

327 In 2013, white evangelicals accounted for 27% of VirginiaÂ’s electorate, down from 34% in 2009. They voted for Cuccinelli at the same rate as they did for McDonnell (a touch more than 8 in 10), there's just relatively fewer of them than there used to be.

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YAY!!  We're finally getting rid of those so-cons!

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 04:45 AM (P6QsQ)

328 Carol, prayers for you and yours. Thank you, Alex The Chic. This has been going on since March 30. Nurse told me she hoped he wasnÂ’t septic again. HeÂ’s made progress with paralysis and movements and now heÂ’s sick again or probably still. I donÂ’t think theyÂ’ve ever killed initial infections. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 04:45 AM (z4WKX)

329 320 Vic, is there a reason that you think you won�t be here next year?
Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 08:43 AM (z4WKX)


The election is not until Nov next year. If my insurance gets cancelled next year on Jan 1 have a choice between bankruptcy or dieing the way this Obamacare shit is going.


Same for my wife.  She went in for more radiation treatments today.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:45 AM (zZbNF)

330 I'm going to try out this apology thing by pushing someone off a train platform onto the tracks right before one pulls in after I promise not to push him.  "I'm sorry you are finding yourself in this position based upon assurances from me."  *walks off*  Let's see how it goes. 

Posted by: no good deed at November 08, 2013 04:45 AM (k55Fc)

331 Posted by: Blacksheep at November 08, 2013 08:44 AM (bS6uW) Yes indeed- He should be, but if indeed he has NPD the DSM removed it from their list of conditions in 2013-and anyway, it's notoriously hard to treat.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 04:46 AM (23Kgq)

332 DoD is gearing up for VERA/VSIP. Stay tuned.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:39 AM (JpC1K)

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What is this, please?

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 04:46 AM (P6QsQ)

333 BBL - coffee tasting

Posted by: RWC at November 08, 2013 04:46 AM (fWAjv)

334 The election is not until Nov next year. If my insurance gets cancelled next year on Jan 1 have a choice between bankruptcy or dieing the way this Obamacare shit is going. Same for my wife. She went in for more radiation treatments today. Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 08:45 AM (zZbNF) IÂ’m sorry Vic. I will say a prayer for both you and your wife. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 04:47 AM (z4WKX)

335 Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:44 AM (JpC1K)

I'm in.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:47 AM (fwARV)

336 Thanks

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:47 AM (zZbNF)

337 Has nothing to do with green suiters. Get thee to a recruiter. I think you should request that both Washington Nearsider and I swear you in. Pudding dipping to immediately follow. Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:44 AM (JpC1K) Thinkin' about it. Can I shoot you an email?

Posted by: Mainah at November 08, 2013 04:48 AM (659DL)

338

"...but there doesn't seem to be a rush to line up behind any particular choice while Obamacare is in the middle of imploding."

 

 

You don't just rush into this situation - nope.  First you get upwind and open up the Emergency Response Guide.  With ObamaCare you sit back and take notes of what is going wrong and try and find out what is going to be tolerable after this charlie foxtrot is done setting off the secondaries.  And you enjoy watching the panic grow on the other side of the aisle as exaemplified by the senators meeting Obama and saying, in effect, "You arrogant fool, you've killed us all."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 08, 2013 04:48 AM (hLRSq)

339 Best of luck to you Vic. Any news on the grandchild? Do you know the gender yet?

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 08, 2013 04:49 AM (U2UQk)

340 Another blogger, pointed the Democrats spent 3 million dollars to try to win one pivotal race in Washington's state assembly, including funding from MCAuliffe's angel, Tom Steyer or Goldman and Morgan, that's how much was spent on an entire state.

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 08, 2013 04:49 AM (2kpL8)

341 What is this, please?  Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 08:46 AM (P6QsQ)

http://tinyurl.com/kfawzmf

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:49 AM (JpC1K)

342 "After finishing the Firefly series this summer...." -Lincolntf I tried this summer, too. I got through the 2nd appearance of that girl, you know, that gets mentioned here often, her. I found I watched each episode with lots of pausing at cringeworthy or contrived turns, and that just kept increasing. Kept meaning to get back to it. But then we started watching Dr Whos, and there's only so many hours in the day for silly crap. Besides AoSHQ, I mean. There's always time for AoSHQ silly crap. uh, I mean...

Posted by: mindful webworker - fewer hours left every day at November 08, 2013 04:49 AM (fWgl8)

343 Always thought Tame Impala's "Elephant" would be a great campaign song for Christie in

I saw Tame Impala open for MGMT.  They weren't that great back in 2010, but I like the Elephant remixes I've seen on youtube.  The Henry Mancini tune would be perfect except for the John Wayne association. 

Posted by: no good deed at November 08, 2013 04:49 AM (k55Fc)

344 Radiation sucks. Having the Geiger counter run up and down your body before you can leave the vault is a little surreal.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2013 04:50 AM (2ti2X)

345 Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 08:45 AM (zZbNF) It's terrible, Vic for you and so many people. If we lose our insurance under the employer mandate we cannot afford to have insurance period and I have a chronic condition. None of the brainiacs in the Obama Administration has explained why in order to cover a group of people without any insurance we had to destroy everybody's insurance

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 04:50 AM (23Kgq)

346 Thinkin' about it. Can I shoot you an email?  Posted by: Mainah at November 08, 2013 08:48 AM (659DL)

Please do.

ESPECIALLY if you're thinking about being an officer.  USAR might be a better move than ARNG, just depends on what you're looking for.

Oh, and I would kill to swear in a member of the Moron Horde.  Jus' sayin'

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 04:51 AM (JpC1K)

347 340 Best of luck to you Vic. Any news on the grandchild? Do you know the gender yet?

Posted by: Schr�dinger's cat at November 08, 2013 08:49 AM (U2UQk)


I think it is a boy.  I have seen a "picture" of him.  He is due any time now. BION, Grandson is now a contractor at the local Nuke PLant(s). And this is outage time so he has plenty of work but a lot of time on the road.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:51 AM (zZbNF)

348 none of the arguments amidst the party bother me. we always argue with each other. we are not lockstep ideologues like liberals but a coalition party. we find our way, our compromise, a leader, then unite behind that with discipline. its the way we have always been. bitching about it shows you have no stomach for the fight, and that your point of view is failing. it also doesnt bother me since i view the gop as failshit anyway. the arguments are how we get from failshit to victory, probly through replacement. i bet the whigs went through exactly the same. the whole preston brooks caning incident, remember, was a whig beating down a republican abolitionist. it might get nastier still but you need to stick to your guns, whatever they may be. let the best in all of us win.

Posted by: Bigby's Thumb at November 08, 2013 04:52 AM (LOCID)

349 And my prayer for all this is that "Rough places are made smooth". It's my all purpose prayer for lots of things.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 04:52 AM (23Kgq)

350 Establishment shill shills for the establishment; welcome to another opening post on Ace of Spades.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 08, 2013 04:52 AM (VjL9S)

351 345 Radiation sucks. Having the Geiger counter run up and down your body before you can leave the vault is a little surreal.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2013 08:50 AM (2ti2X)


If I was still working at the Nuke plant I would have to get "counted" every day entering the plant.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:52 AM (zZbNF)

352 Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:49 AM (JpC1K)

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Thank you sir.

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 04:53 AM (P6QsQ)

353 I didn't realize you with was having cancer treatments, Vic. I will pray for both of you too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 04:53 AM (23Kgq)

354 I hope you all have a good day. Vic,I asked one morning but then left if you were a great grandfather yet. IÂ’m not going to do it today. I have to go make myself eat and get ready to go to work. I have had both chemo and radiation. I found radiation worse because it was every single day for 7 weeks, it was ten years ago. I might be off by a few days but the burn has never gone away. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 04:53 AM (z4WKX)

355 Prayers & thoughts for you and the Mrs., Vic.

Posted by: Gran at November 08, 2013 04:54 AM (mw0FO)

356 She went in for more radiation treatments today.

--

I'm truly sorry to hear that.  I'll be saying extra prayers for her, Vic. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 08, 2013 04:55 AM (XB5Ak)

357 354-Meant "your wife"; Sorry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 04:55 AM (23Kgq)

358 346 None of the brainiacs in the Obama Administration has explained why in order to cover a group of people without any insurance we had to destroy everybody's insurance

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 08:50 AM (23Kgq)


I think it is obvious.  The law was specifically and intentionally written so that EVERYONE's insurance would be canceled and then be forced on gov Obamacare, thus we have single payer.


The next steps would then be to nationalize all the health infrastructure. Thus we have a Communist healthcare system.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 04:55 AM (zZbNF)

359 I found answer to my question about great grandfather Vic. Let us know when heÂ’s born. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 04:56 AM (z4WKX)

360 I'm sensing that the alledged perps aren't Tea Partiers. Posted by: Darth Randall at November 08, 2013 07:25 AM (KlVdw) The identities, plus photos, plus interviews will probably break first on a limey tabloid.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 08, 2013 04:56 AM (3brsw)

361

"It sucked the oxygen out of the room. Instead of talking about Obamacare, we were talking about the shutdown."

The shutdown was mostly based on Obamacare, wasn't it. Why couldn't he explain the importance of defunding/delaying of 404Care? Politics, how does it work?

Posted by: boned to the bone at November 08, 2013 04:56 AM (Ph479)

362 Oh, and I would kill to swear in a member of the Moron Horde. Jus' sayin'

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:51 AM (JpC1K)

I'd better be invited...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 04:57 AM (fwARV)

363 I am hoping that this Obamacide program turns the tide.  Maybe it will be the straw that breaks the progressive camel's back.

No one, I don't care who you are, likes people dicking around with their doctors and their insurance coverage. 

This cuts across party lines.  I think the Dems have really stepped in it here.

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 04:58 AM (P6QsQ)

364 I love the crying about the shutdown. The shutdown people got paid for. Also, Bankruptcy does not take 14 days. It takes months to lose a house, or get your car repoed. Is Obama posting here now?

Posted by: nip at November 08, 2013 04:58 AM (jI23+)

365 When did Coldplay rename themselves "Imagine Dragons"? They still suck.

Posted by: jakeman at November 08, 2013 04:58 AM (vH4YP)

366

Your health insurance system is quite a puzzle for someone like me in another country to understand

 

I've learnt a bit about how health insurance was added to wages when you had some kind of freeze on pay increases many years ago

 

However I just cannot fathom how your dear Leader has been allowed to smash through "reforms" that obviously hurt so many people

 

BTW we have single payer Down Under plus the option of private health insurance

 

 

 

 

Posted by: aussie at November 08, 2013 04:59 AM (KskPv)

367 Sorry to hear that Vic, Prayers,

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 08, 2013 04:59 AM (2kpL8)

368 Thanks all.  My "treatments" are over.  But I still have to get annual colostomies and whole body scans. (Those are expensive)


Wife's thyroid cancer is a recurring case and her throat is still closed off so they are giving another treatment today.

And visit doctors a LOT and take a fist full of drugs every day.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 05:00 AM (zZbNF)

369 Morning all: The big 'announcement' from Sebelius? New U.S. guidelines increase mental health access (CNN) -- Long-awaited rules have been established to put teeth in a 2008 law requiring doctors and insurers to treat mental illness the same as physical illness, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius will announce Friday, a department spokesman said. Sebelius will make the announcement in a speech at the Rosalynn Carter Symposium on Mental Health Policy in Atlanta, spokesman Mark Weber said. The move will greatly increase access to mental health care and services for Americans. The Mental Health Parity Law of 2008 was signed by President George W. Bush.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 08, 2013 05:02 AM (bCEmE)

370 You have to get the base to vote for you in the primary, and that's tough to do when you call them stupid.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 07:21 AM (JpC1K)

 

 

I didn't see him calling these people stupid; what I read is that people with hidden agendas were misleading the people.  In other words, they were being betrayed.*

 

 

*McConnell is a politician with his own agenda also.  I don't trust him any further than I trust any politician

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 08, 2013 05:02 AM (hLRSq)

371 343 "After finishing the Firefly series this summer...." -Lincolntf I tried this summer, too. I got through the 2nd appearance of that girl, you know, that gets mentioned here often, her. I found I watched each episode with lots of pausing at cringeworthy or contrived turns, and that just kept increasing. Kept meaning to get back to it. But then we started watching Dr Whos, and there's only so many hours in the day for silly crap. Besides AoSHQ, I mean. There's always time for AoSHQ silly crap. uh, I mean... Posted by: mindful webworker - fewer hours left every day at November 08, 2013 08:49 AM (fWgl --- You referred to Doctor Who as "silly crap". We may have words. I'm testing a knitting pattern for a designer. It's called "Come along, Pond". Good morning, Horde. Sure is bright out there.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 08, 2013 05:02 AM (N/cFh)

372 YAY!! We're finally getting rid of those so-cons!

I lol'd.

OTOH, I've noticed a lot of the "big box churches"--the ones that send out fliers about their rock concerts and yoga classes and *shudder* "fish fries" on Saturdays that serve pork tenderloins and chicken strips--aren't any more politically or socially conservative than the Episcopalians.  "Jesus said stuff about the poor so more food stamps!" 

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 08, 2013 05:02 AM (ZKzrr)

373 360 Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 08:56 AM (z4WKX)



I'll let everyone know.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 05:02 AM (zZbNF)

374 The press is celebrating the job numbers.  Instead of the horrible 120,000 number they got an anemic 200,000 number.  This doesn't even keep up with population growth.  We really are living in Orwellian times. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 08, 2013 05:03 AM (32Ze2)

375 Always check your meds Vic. CVS just gave me a wrong dosage today. Bad mistake to make.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2013 05:03 AM (2ti2X)

376 The move will greatly increase access to mental health care and services for Americans. The Mental Health Parity Law of 2008 was signed by President George W. Bush. That's just groovy because a lot more people are going to need mental health svs, when Obamacare is on full blast. These people are clueless.......clueless

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 05:03 AM (23Kgq)

377

As for single payer.. I've just needed a specialised scan to rule out a pulmonary embolism

 

I was ready to pay but it was covered by Medicare (our single payer system)

 

We don't have the UK NHS horror stories Down Under either

 

 

Posted by: aussie at November 08, 2013 05:04 AM (KskPv)

378 In honor of Billy Graham's 95th birthday




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu2E2FUcIiE

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 05:04 AM (P6QsQ)

379 I didn't see him calling these people stupid; what I read is that people with hidden agendas were misleading the people. In other words, they were being betrayed.* osted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 08, 2013 09:02 AM (hLRSq)

See, I saw that as him saying that the tea party folks aren't smart enough to figure that out.  Instead, they need someone like Mitch McConnell to figure it out for them.

That's about the equivalent of calling them "stupid".  YMMV

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 05:04 AM (JpC1K)

380 364 I am hoping that this Obamacide program turns the tide. Maybe it will be the straw that breaks the progressive camel's back.

No one, I don't care who you are, likes people dicking around with their doctors and their insurance coverage.

This cuts across party lines. I think the Dems have really stepped in it here.

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 08:58 AM (P6QsQ)



LOL, I like that term because there is no "care" in Obamacare.  Can I steal it?

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 05:04 AM (zZbNF)

381 It's been stated several times on this thread ready, but the fix appears to be in in the Virginia Attorney General's race. If you live in Virginia, you need to contact your local Republican officials and officeholder, if there is one, and absolutely raise hell about this. We can't roll over this time. I am anxiously awaiting the explanation by Fairfax as to why these votes were not counted on Election Day. In 25 years of being involved in elections here, I can't ever remember this many ballots being discovered and counted during a canvass.

Posted by: Czar Peter at November 08, 2013 05:05 AM (1YeHW)

382 LOL, I like that term because there is no "care" in Obamacare. Can I steal it?

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 09:04 AM (zZbNF)


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Absolutely!!

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 05:06 AM (P6QsQ)

383 That's just groovy because a lot more people are going to need mental health svs, when Obamacare is on full blast. These people are clueless.......clueless Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 09:03 AM (23Kgq) Yeah, that was my thought too....followed by 'You have GOT to be kidding me!'

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 08, 2013 05:06 AM (bCEmE)

384 365 Also, Bankruptcy does not take 14 days. It takes months YEARS to lose a house, or get your car repoed.

Is Obama posting here now?

Posted by: nip at November 08, 2013 08:58 AM (jI23+)


ftfy

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 05:06 AM (zZbNF)

385

Vic

 

I do wish you and your wife well - what a worry for the both of you

 

Sickening really

Posted by: aussie at November 08, 2013 05:06 AM (KskPv)

386 It's almost like they're having some big joke at our expense. You're losing your insurance. You can't afford Obamcare but look....mental health services will be greatly increased.....hahahahaha, They're all sitting around the table laughing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 05:06 AM (23Kgq)

387 However I just cannot fathom how your dear Leader has been allowed to smash through "reforms" that obviously hurt so many people

Tyrants gotta tyrate.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 08, 2013 05:07 AM (ZKzrr)

388 obama: great man, great President,

Posted by: Iran at November 08, 2013 05:07 AM (t3UFN)

389 I fucking HATE standard time. I get to drive to work in the daylight so I can drive home in the dark. Thats just fucked up.

Posted by: maddogg at November 08, 2013 05:07 AM (xWW96)

390 YAY!! We're finally getting rid of those so-cons! I lol'd. OTOH, I've noticed a lot of the "big box churches"--the ones that send out fliers about their rock concerts and yoga classes and *shudder* "fish fries" on Saturdays that serve pork tenderloins and chicken strips--aren't any more politically or socially conservative than the Episcopalians. "Jesus said stuff about the poor so more food stamps!" Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 08, 2013 09:02 AM (ZKzrr) WTF, a fish fry that serves stuff other than fish? That's just. *eyetwitch at the stupid* Here's a question because I'm too lazy to look myself. What are the actual numbers on the decline of participation by evangelicals? Was the percentage of participation off because of greater participation by other groups? Whenever I see numbers like that, what springs to mind instantly is the Dilbert cartoon where PHB has an urgent meeting to discover why it is that 40% of all sick days are taken on Monday and Friday and the intern kid laughs and then says "Oh. You're serious."

Posted by: alexthechick - Up the highway not across the road at November 08, 2013 05:07 AM (VtjlW)

391 Oh Bibi is hot under the collar, but he will not have the guts to strike

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2013 05:08 AM (t3UFN)

392 One of my signs outside said "The Affordable Care act is neither."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 05:08 AM (23Kgq)

393 However I just cannot fathom how your dear Leader has been allowed to smash through "reforms" that obviously hurt so many people

BTW we have single payer Down Under plus the option of private health insurance



Posted by: aussie at November 08, 2013 08:59 AM (KskPv)



The Democrats crammed it through when they had control of all three branches and a super-majority in the Senate.


They did not even read the bill.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 05:08 AM (zZbNF)

394 The nest of school books around 'my' chair is growing. Is it December yet? And when it is, I need to figure out what I want to do when I graduate my AA in the spring. I don't want to be subjected to progressives professors telling me how the world works when I've been a functioning adult member of society for 25 years and know they're wrong. That cuts out social "science" and probably (sadly) history. Hard science isn't my friend but I love biology -which requires chemistry. Je suis perdu.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 08, 2013 05:08 AM (N/cFh)

395 Off to the post office. Gotta mail a certified birth certificate for a college application the boy filled out. Funny how illegals go to college and all.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2013 05:08 AM (2ti2X)

396 How is "mental health coverage" a big announcement??  That's been in the list of services that must be included from the outset. It's not anything new that would warrant a press conference.

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 05:08 AM (P6QsQ)

397 I've been whingeing about the need to impeach Choom Boy since, well, February 2009 or thereabouts. People -- from Poppin' Fresh to Ace to all the self-appointed Political Mavens on various HQ threads -- have told me it would be Bad Optics and would piss off Hairy Reid or some such shit to do that.

Is THIS enough?

http://thebea.st/18bGuC9

President Historic First© has been actively aiding the Iranians, without Congressional approval or any public notice. IIRC, sanctions were a matter of law. Law means nothing to the treasonous fuckweasel. Clearly Israel means nothing to him either.

Our Muzzie Overlord goes on his meery way. He should be out of the White House and in a cell, along with Lurch.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 08, 2013 05:09 AM (kaGpp)

398 It seems all the euroweenies and leftard fools in Israel have a tad of buyer's remorse over the Zero. I feel generous, fuck them with a backhoe.

Posted by: maddogg at November 08, 2013 05:09 AM (xWW96)

399 i believe virginia says more about 2016 than NJ does.

Posted by: Bigby's Thumb at November 08, 2013 05:09 AM (LOCID)

400 397 How is "mental health coverage" a big announcement?? That's been in the list of services that must be included from the outset. It's not anything new that would warrant a press conference. Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 09:08 AM (P6QsQ) LOOK SQUIRREL!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 08, 2013 05:10 AM (bCEmE)

401 370 Posted by: Tami at November 08, 2013 09:02 AM (bCEmE)



So nothing more that a pat on the back for another worthless government mandate that will be nothing but fraud and abuse.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 05:10 AM (zZbNF)

402 Your health insurance system is quite a puzzle for someone like me in another country to understand I've learnt a bit about how health insurance was added to wages when you had some kind of freeze on pay increases many years ago Perhaps I can help a little. Healthy employees are infinitely more desirable to an employer then sick ones. So employer paid insurance benefited both. As the economy improved under Reagan, Reagan, Bush, and still improved despite Clinton, it became more the norm to cover both the employee and his entire family. It added very little to the cost for the employer to do so, and insurance companies actually prefer to spread the risk across a larger base. Employers also realized that employees stayed with a company, and became more valuable, and had to consider the benefits 'package' before leaving one job for another. Some employees would still jump ship and go without insurance in order to earn more pay per hour. That was their choice. But employers could not be expected to cover everyone in the country, and as taxes on business increased to feed an ever bigger monster in DC, benefits began to be trimmed back. A very stupid politician by the name of Obama promised something to garner votes and succeeded. But his program is a failure of unprecedented dimensions.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 08, 2013 05:10 AM (U2UQk)

403 Okay, can't escape here this easily no sirree bob

John Cox on ACA - Mordor is calling
http://www.johncoxart.com/2013/11/meanwhile_in_mordor.html

Or perhaps 'friends countrymen'
http://www.johncoxart.com/2013/11/taking_the_heat.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 05:10 AM (arQna)

404 Exclusive: Obama’s Secret Iran Détente by Eli Lake, Josh Rogin Nov 8, 2013 5:45 AM EST Long before a nuclear deal was in reach, the U.S. was quietly lifting some of the financial pressure on Iran, according to a Daily Beast investigation. How the sanctions were softened. I fear for the future of Israel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2013 05:11 AM (t3UFN)

405 In honor of Billy Graham's 95th birthday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu2E2FUcIiE Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 09:04 AM (P6QsQ) Did you watch that last night? My Alabama Granny loved billy Graham. I used to make fun of him behind her back. RIP Granny, you were right, I'm sorry.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 08, 2013 05:11 AM (XIxXP)

406 376 Always check your meds Vic. CVS just gave me a wrong dosage today. Bad mistake to make.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2013 09:03 AM (2ti2X)


I do.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 05:11 AM (zZbNF)

407 The Democrats crammed it through when they had control of all three branches and a super-majority in the Senate. They did not even read the bill. Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 09:08 AM (zZbNF) They couldn't have read the bill because, IIRC, it wasn't finished being typed up when the vote occurred.

Posted by: alexthechick - Up the highway not across the road at November 08, 2013 05:11 AM (VtjlW)

408 It's probably been mentioned, but the Avik Roy piece won't come up as the server ain't serving. ---------------- One thing that I would like to see the GOP do now is lower the boom on Jugears' Benghazi lies with some new hearings/testimony/evidence. Now that we have this lying prick down, it's time to finish him in the eyes of the uninformed fucking dopes that til now haven't gotten it.

Posted by: ontherocks at November 08, 2013 05:11 AM (XfYgW)

409 "I don't know how many of these Rinos were working on his campaign, but NRO and Gabe found one. Good job, guys." Was it really beyond their imagination to point out Cuccinelli was running for a STATE office, that he never votes on FEDERAL funding?

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at November 08, 2013 05:12 AM (r3krh)

410 Your health insurance system is quite a puzzle for someone like me in another country to understand

Throughout history we were not socialists.

Until now.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 05:12 AM (JpC1K)

411 Our Muzzie Overlord goes on his meery way. He should be out of the White House and in a cell, along with Lurch. Posted by: MrScribbler at November 08, 2013 09:09 AM (kaGpp) IÂ’m with you Mr. Scribbler, impeach the SCOAMF.

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 05:12 AM (z4WKX)

412 How is "mental health coverage" a big announcement?? That's been in the list of services that must be included from the outset. It's not anything new that would warrant a press conference. Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 09:08 AM (P6QsQ) You'll find out when they put you in that "Hospital" for people who need mental re-education.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2013 05:12 AM (t3UFN)

413 Â….or IRS Â…..or Fast and Furious Â…..or Solyndra

Posted by: ontherocks at November 08, 2013 05:13 AM (XfYgW)

414 OTOH, I've noticed a lot of the "big box churches"--the ones that send out fliers about their rock concerts and yoga classes and *shudder* "fish fries" on Saturdays that serve pork tenderloins and chicken strips--aren't any more politically or socially conservative than the Episcopalians. "Jesus said stuff about the poor so more food stamps!"

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 08, 2013 09:02 AM (ZKzrr)

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There is a sentiment in some pockets of current evangelicalism to steer clear of politics of any stripe.  Some of the thinking is this ( I am probably putting it badly) - that in order for people to come to church and hear the Gospel, they should not have to be Republican.


Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 05:14 AM (P6QsQ)

415 You'll find out when they put you in that "Hospital" for people who need mental re-education.  Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2013 09:12 AM (t3UFN)


How am I going to recognize the Horde in the Political Psych Ward?

Quick, remind me of the password again!

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 05:14 AM (JpC1K)

416

Vic

 

"The Democrats crammed it through when they had control of all three branches and a super-majority in the Senate.
They did not even read the bill."

 

I do recall Nancy Pelosi bragging about that - disgusting

 

People like you and your wife are the innocent victims in this power game

 

Posted by: aussie at November 08, 2013 05:14 AM (KskPv)

417 How is "mental health coverage" a big announcement?? That's been in the list of services that must be included from the outset. It's not anything new that would warrant a press conference.

--

It's a shiny objects diversion from the suckage of Obamacide.  Whatever comes out of that hag's mouth won't deflect from their abject failure and it won't temper the anger that is being unleased, and will continue to be unleashed, as the near 85% of us with private insurance have the rug yanked from under us. 

We're like the anal probe guy and the gov't is the police.  We said no, they rammed it up our butts anyway and sent us the bill. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 08, 2013 05:14 AM (XB5Ak)

418 There is a sentiment in some pockets of current evangelicalism to steer clear of politics of any stripe. Some of the thinking is this ( I am probably putting it badly) - that in order for people to come to church and hear the Gospel, they should not have to be Republican. Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 09:14 AM (P6QsQ) That's all well and good until you change the Gospel to fit the people.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 08, 2013 05:15 AM (XIxXP)

419 ---------------- One thing that I would like to see the GOP do now is lower the boom on Jugears' Benghazi lies with some new hearings/testimony/evidence. Now that we have this lying prick down, it's time to finish him in the eyes of the uninformed fucking dopes that til now haven't gotten it. Posted by: ontherocks at November 08, 2013 09:11 AM (XfYgW) TFG has something on Boehner, because he refuses to appoint a special prosecutor. I wonder what it is? We should finish him off. I wrote 20+ minutes ago that I have to get ready for work. Have a nice day, or try your best to have one. Horde. Carol Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 05:15 AM (z4WKX)

420 That's all well and good until you change the Gospel to fit the people. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 08, 2013 09:15 AM (XIxXP)


Which is generally the problem with those churches.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 05:16 AM (JpC1K)

421 How am I going to recognize the Horde in the Political Psych Ward? Quick, remind me of the password again! Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 09:14 AM (JpC1K) Swordfish

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2013 05:16 AM (t3UFN)

422 Please do. ESPECIALLY if you're thinking about being an officer. USAR might be a better move than ARNG, just depends on what you're looking for. Oh, and I would kill to swear in a member of the Moron Horde. Jus' sayin' Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 08:51 AM (JpC1K) Sent. Haha, I bet you would!

Posted by: Mainah at November 08, 2013 05:17 AM (659DL)

423 Safe to say this girl likes catshttp://youtu.be/mTTwcCVajAc

Posted by: UWP at November 08, 2013 05:17 AM (fdXMW)

424 Swordfish Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2013 09:16 AM (t3UFN) That's easy, the sign of the fish with a pointy nose.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 08, 2013 05:17 AM (XIxXP)

425 OSP and Sean, I get the feeling that those who go to church to feel good will be spat out like lukewarm water.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 05:18 AM (arQna)

426 As I recall they wanted to impeach RR for sending a few arms to Iran and using the money to finance the fight against the communists in Nicaragua.


Press will be silent on this.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 05:18 AM (zZbNF)

427 And I really need to run away from here.  Chengi is a brutal place, the quicker I plow through this the better I will be.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 05:19 AM (arQna)

428 Gee Juan Williams is one stupid person

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2013 05:19 AM (t3UFN)

429 And I really need to run away from here. Chengi is a brutal place, the quicker I plow through this the better I will be. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 09:19 AM (arQna) Hi AP.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 08, 2013 05:19 AM (XIxXP)

430 429 Gee Juan Williams is one stupid person Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2013 09:19 AM (t3UFN) I've renamed the mute button to Juan button.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 08, 2013 05:20 AM (bCEmE)

431

403 Schrödinger's cat

 

Thanks and I can understand the reasoning

 

We have not had that option here - of course big companies do offer perks such as health insurance payment but it's not the norm for employees

 

Single payer plus private insurance if you wish to pay extra - that is the option for everyone here  other than those in the stratosphere of top execs

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted by: aussie at November 08, 2013 05:20 AM (KskPv)

432 I really think if that's Sebellius' announcement people should just point at her, laugh and say "Obama lied. Insurance died". I suppose these kinds of announcement gatherings are closed so the people there will we selected folks who will nod and applaud graciously.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 05:20 AM (23Kgq)

433 have your plan ready when the put you in the camp or hospital.....have fun with it.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 05:20 AM (8JJ6O)

434 Imagine the MSM shitstorm that comes down when an AIDS patient has his medical records leak through the unsecured healthcare.gov system.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at November 08, 2013 05:20 AM (a5ljo)

435 OSP and Sean, I get the feeling that those who go to church to feel good will be spat out like lukewarm water. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 09:18 AM (arQna)

I don't think feeling good in church is wrong.

I think, like OSP said, twisting things around to make the Gospel more to one's liking is the problem.  Actual Christians know that it's not all about them.

I don't think services need to be a miserable experience.  But if it takes the lack of any kind of dress code, lattes, a rock band, and a laser light show to get you into the service, then your faith is probably an inch deep anyway.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 05:21 AM (JpC1K)

436 I've created a monkey with six-asses!

Posted by: K. Sebelius at November 08, 2013 05:21 AM (ZshNr)

437 We need some Monty DOOM to cheer us up this morning.

Posted by: chango butt at November 08, 2013 05:21 AM (qQk+U)

438 Imagine the MSM shitstorm that comes down when an AIDS patient has his medical records leak through the unsecured healthcare.gov system. Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at November 08, 2013 09:20 AM (a5ljo) Yes, old andy cooper will be upset, no more bathhouse bingo.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 08, 2013 05:22 AM (XIxXP)

439 429 Gee Juan Williams is one stupid person Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2013 09:19 AM (t3UFN) i refuse to listen to him....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 05:22 AM (8JJ6O)

440 We need some Monty DOOM to cheer us up this morning.

Posted by: chango butt at November 08, 2013 05:22 AM (qQk+U)

441 Years ago, I told an aerobic class at the YMCA. There was a man saying how he could handle chemo but he was back on radiation and it really knocked the hell out of him. Right, old man, you're more than twice my age and getting radiation treatments and I'm the one gasping for air unable to speak. lol

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 08, 2013 05:22 AM (3brsw)

442 Additionally, I think some evangelicals are trying to un-hook that automatic link in peoples' minds that

evangelical =  Republican



Which is true.  Those two are separate things.  Who was the pundit the other day who gave her account of coming to faith in Christ?  Kirsten Powers?  She said one of the impediments to her willingness to listen to the Gospel was the terror that she might have to become a Republican.



Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 05:22 AM (P6QsQ)

443 Vic: If you try to turn off NoScript from the Firefox Add-ons page it will give you an option to just block scripts (and a bunch of other attack venues) instead of turning off NoScript altogether. If you click that option you'll be able to play most videos but NoScript will still stop most threats. The best thing is that you don't even have to restart your browser after switching between settings. NoScript got so complex and intrusive I turned it off entirely for a while. I'm glad I tried the intermediate option. It makes NoScript behave like the earlier versions of it. Try it, you'll like it.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 08, 2013 05:22 AM (tOkJB)

444 I've created a monkey with six-asses!  Posted by: K. Sebelius at November 08, 2013 09:21 AM (ZshNr)


Excellent, my Queen!  I need to hire more Navigators!

Posted by: Marilyn Taverner[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 05:23 AM (JpC1K)

445 WTF, a fish fry that serves stuff other than fish? That's just. *eyetwitch at the stupid*

I've recently given up attempting to understand Indiana. I'm just going to float through it.


Employers also realized that employees stayed with a company, and became more valuable, and had to consider the benefits 'package' before leaving one job for another.

And now, contra that Pelosi scrunt, employees are even more stuck in their jobs than they were before Obamacare, because all the reasonable alternatives to employer coverage have been outlawed.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 08, 2013 05:23 AM (ZKzrr)

446 juan williams ruins every program he's on.....fox should never have saved him from npr....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 05:23 AM (8JJ6O)

447 we should all become navigators.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 05:24 AM (8JJ6O)

448 But if it takes the lack of any kind of dress code, lattes, a rock band, and a laser light show to get you into the service, then your faith is probably an inch deep anyway.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 09:21 AM (JpC1K)


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I go to one of those churches.  We meet in a movie theater.  Our aim is to SPECIFICALLY minister to people who's faith is an inch deep. 


And help to make that  deeper. 

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 05:24 AM (P6QsQ)

449
The big 'announcement' from Sebelius?

So they're going to continue smearing lip stick on that pig? (Obamacare, not Sebelius)

When the employer mandate gets close, and tens of millions are forced from their acceptable plans into Obamacare compliant crap, I would hope it opens up some eyes. The committed left will forever sing King Putt's praises, but I don't think they enjoy the numbers to prevent a wholesale dem electoral slaughter in '14, and maybe '16.

Meanwhile, I'll just sit back, and continue watching this slow-mo trainwreck unfold.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 08, 2013 05:24 AM (0IhFx)

450 And now, contra that Pelosi scrunt, employees are even more stuck in their jobs than they were before Obamacare, because all the reasonable alternatives to employer coverage have been outlawed. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 08, 2013 09:23 AM (ZKzrr) Not to mention that everyone is now being forced back into very geographic specific HMOs so you can't even move from one side of the state to the other.

Posted by: alexthechick - Up the highway not across the road at November 08, 2013 05:25 AM (VtjlW)

451 we should all become navigators..... Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 09:24 AM (8JJ6O) I tried, Nope.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 08, 2013 05:25 AM (XIxXP)

452 The Democrats don't need the Gospels. They have their toasted Jesus right here, standing up in front of a teleprompter uttering his "truths" to them every day.

Posted by: maddogg at November 08, 2013 05:25 AM (xWW96)

453 "...the lack of any kind of dress code..."

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 09:21 AM (JpC1K)

My pet peeve.

Put on some nice clothes, tell your strumpet daughter to cover her tits, and your idiot son to pull his pants up.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2013 05:25 AM (oJ5Fd)

454 I go to one of those churches. We meet in a movie theater. Our aim is to SPECIFICALLY minister to people who's faith is an inch deep. And help to make that deeper. Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 09:24 AM (P6QsQ) did you see the liberal punk lutheran lady minister article? i'm happy she's reaching the "outsiders"

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 05:26 AM (8JJ6O)

455 Clearly the website was rayciiissst, and victimized poor BuhRock

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at November 08, 2013 05:26 AM (XvrTA)

456 Put on some nice clothes, tell your strumpet daughter to cover her tits, and your idiot son to pull his pants up. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2013 09:25 AM (oJ5Fd) No kidding, that doesn't fly at the Lutheran Church. The Pastor would come down from the pulpit to address it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 08, 2013 05:27 AM (XIxXP)

457 I go to one of those churches. We meet in a movie theater. Our aim is to SPECIFICALLY minister to people who's faith is an inch deep.

Well then, you made my point.

You're doing God's work, no doubt.

But I've been to 3 of those churches while I wandered around in the wilderness over 20 years, and I've never really seen it work - for me, or anyone I knew.  That external stuff made it too easy to fall away.  Hopefully, your mileage will vary.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 05:27 AM (JpC1K)

458

411 Sean Bannion

 

The introduction of universal health insurance also caused massive upheavals here in OZ

 

However we are really a tiny country compared to your place- I'm sure that helped

 

I do remember lots of doctors being really p*ssed off about it and leaving the system

 

 

Posted by: aussie at November 08, 2013 05:27 AM (KskPv)

459 "...the lack of any kind of dress code..."

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 09:21 AM (JpC1K)

My pet peeve.

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At our church we post the dress code: "Wear something."

We will welcome you in rags, if rags is what you have.  And believe me when I say, for some it is exactly that.


Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 05:28 AM (P6QsQ)

460 mama winger http://tinyurl.com/knfsll4

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 05:28 AM (8JJ6O)

461 All these horror stories...heart breaking that good, hardworking people have to go through this. My wife is a diabetic and her mom, age 67 is having serious back issues after an accident last year, she may need surgery. What will be covered or worse what won't be covered? Will they just allow meds to ease pain? Who make these decisions? Some jag-off bureaucrat? Its hard enough dealing with insurance companies and doctors and pharmacies now add a layer of government scum to the mix. My sense is you'll have a lot of people with less means and strength simply, sadly falling by the wayside. And its what they want, the globalist, eco-nazis can't wait for us to die.

**spit**

Posted by: dananjcon at November 08, 2013 05:28 AM (wmU4G)

462 tell your strumpet daughter to cover her tits,

Woah, woah, let's not go crazy here.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 08, 2013 05:29 AM (QAEJK)

463 Sean, guess should have used more words to further describe the thought process. My bad.  What I meant is those churches who only exist to make those in the pulpits feel good without challenging them to really follow.  Cafeteria Catholics included.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 05:29 AM (arQna)

464 My pet peeve. Put on some nice clothes, tell your strumpet daughter to cover her tits, and your idiot son to pull his pants up. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2013 09:25 AM (oJ5Fd) A Jewish friend of mine in the other part of my internets life used to share her horror stories of what people wore to synagogue on the High Holy Days.

Posted by: alexthechick - Up the highway not across the road at November 08, 2013 05:30 AM (VtjlW)

465 I go to one of those churches. We meet in a movie theater. Our aim is to SPECIFICALLY minister to people who's faith is an inch deep.

Well then, you made my point.

You're doing God's work, no doubt.

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It is not the church I would choose to go to if I were going to church for myself, that's true.  I prefer a much more traditional orthodox style of worship.  But I've come to realize that as an older established Christian it's not about me anymore, it's about the mission field.

Church is a hospital for sinners, not a country club for saints.

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 05:31 AM (P6QsQ)

466 Church is a hospital for sinners, not a country club for saints. Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 09:31 AM (P6QsQ) OOOO, I like that

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 08, 2013 05:31 AM (XIxXP)

467 Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 08, 2013 09:28 AM (8JJ6O)

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Ya, I saw that article.  I have a really hard time with the foul mouthed thing. 

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 05:32 AM (P6QsQ)

468 Church is a hospital for sinners, not a country club for saints.

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 09:31 AM (P6QsQ)

 

 

 

 

Jesus spent some time explaining that he wasn't there for the righteous.

Posted by: maddogg at November 08, 2013 05:32 AM (xWW96)

469 Posted by: Ed Anger at November 08, 2013 09:22 AM (tOkJB)


I do turn off noscript for playing videos, but I have NEVER been able to get a Fox video to play with this computer, even when using IE and none of those blocking programs.


I can get other videos to play though. Here's the other rub now too.  ABC did something to their web site so that their news comes up in some kind of a box. I can't get that to load either even with noscript turned off. (I can get it on IE though)

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 05:32 AM (zZbNF)

470
Barry the Honest: Look proles I'm sorry you lost your insurance. Not my fault. It's the big evil capitalistic insurance companies who are oppressing you. But have no fear single payer will fix everything.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2013 05:33 AM (1Jaio)

471

The other thing with our single payer system

 

My Medicare card will get me treatment anywhere in OZ - I'm astounded that treatment in the US will be limited by Obamacare to specific local hospitals

 

Just astounding!

Posted by: aussie at November 08, 2013 05:33 AM (KskPv)

472 We will welcome you in rags, if rags is what you have. And believe me when I say, for some it is exactly that.  Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 09:28 AM (P6QsQ)

We have the same.  And no one cares, or has anything to say about it.

But to whom much has been given, much is asked.

And when the AVERAGE salary in my parish is $110K, and you show up in workout shorts, running shoes and a t-shirt on your way home from a run.  I might just think you're not exactly giving God your best that day.

St. Therese of Lisieux had a program called, "The Little Way."  The bottom line is that you do everything, no matter how small, with love, and a focus on God.  For our friend William, who literally is in rags every Sunday in the pew, he is doing it all with love.  It's everything he has.  Most weeks it's a major obstacle for him just to get to the Church.  For the spoiled brats of ambassadors, attorneys, and lobbyists in the parish, they are not.

I think I know who's got less to answer for with God.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 05:34 AM (JpC1K)

473

 Additionally, I think some evangelicals are trying to un-hook that automatic link in peoples' minds that

evangelical = Republican


Any evangelical that thinks its okay to embrace a  pro choice concregant is not an evangelical.   If  you want  a religious movement that is a big tent  acceptance of Democrat values,  start your own movement. 

 

 

Posted by: polynikes at November 08, 2013 05:34 AM (m2CN7)

474

Re: 248  "If you have a gov job of any kind you are the problem. No exceptions. Don't get all butt hurt, admit it and move on.
Counter-economics is the future."

 

As someone who gave up 20 years on active duty as well as a few body parts, and on behalf of greater men than me who gave more- You may suck our collective (and demonstrably larger than yours) dick.

 

End message.

Posted by: Azenogoth at November 08, 2013 05:34 AM (OJn3e)

475 Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 09:28 AM (P6QsQ)

The act of dressing specifically for the service is the beginning of that service. It focuses the mind, and sets the event apart from the rest of the day.

And even in the absence of faith, it shows respect for those around you.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2013 05:34 AM (oJ5Fd)

476 Well folks, I am off to visit the parents for the weekend.  Have a good one!

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 05:34 AM (P6QsQ)

477 Well crap. I wear running tights and a running jacket to every 8:00 a.m. mass at my Anglican Church because by 8:50 I'm running miles on the greenway next to it.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2013 05:35 AM (2ti2X)

478 444 And now, contra that Pelosi scrunt, employees are even more stuck in their jobs than they were before Obamacare, because all the reasonable alternatives to employer coverage have been outlawed.

Posted by: HeatherRadish� needs a beer at November 08, 2013 09:23 AM (ZKzrr)


According to the way the law is written it doesn't matter whether they stay with their company or not. It appears that company provided insurance will go away in the US.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 05:35 AM (zZbNF)

479 My bad. What I meant is those churches who only exist to make those in the pulpits feel good without challenging them to really follow. Cafeteria Catholics included.  Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 09:29 AM (arQna)

Amen.

ESPECIALLY, Cafeteria Catholics. 

But I'm a filthy Papist, so you knew I'd say that.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/s][/i][/u][/b] at November 08, 2013 05:35 AM (JpC1K)

480

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 08, 2013 09:34 AM (JpC1K)

 

If everyone is poor,  who will help them?

Posted by: polynikes at November 08, 2013 05:36 AM (m2CN7)

481  I wear running tights and a running jacket to every 8:00 a.m. mass at my Anglican Church because by 8:50 I'm running miles on the greenway next to it.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2013 09:35 AM (2ti2X)

Pics or it didn't happen.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 08, 2013 05:36 AM (fwARV)

482 "And I'm sure you'll feel justified when Democrats maintain and expand their hold on both power and the federal government. It doesn't matter if it leads to less freedom for us and greater misery, debt, and waste for the nation as a whole. I mean, at least you stuck it to the nasty RINO establishment types, amirite?

Oh, but Mike Castle stayed home and wouldn't support Christine O'Donnell publicly (and other, similar cases)! Well, so the hell what? If Mike Castle jumped off a bridge, would you follow him out of spite? You are judged based on YOUR actions -- what makes it immature and whiny when he does it, and a marvelously principled stand when you do it?

If my district nominates nothing but Todd Akin-esque candidates all down the ticket next cycle, I will privately bitch about having to vote for them. But I still will, even if I don't think they're a good candidate, as long as I think they're the best candidate in the field. Because that's what we should be concerned with. No protest votes, no staying home, because having someone that agrees with me 70%-80% of the time as my representative is far better than having someone who agrees with me 0-20% of the time.

Enough of this. I'm going to work.

Posted by: Demosthenes at November 08, 2013 08:32 AM (c5AtG)"




Until now, I have loyally held my nose and voted for the GOP nominee, even when my guy lost.  Heck, I have rung door bells and worked phones in GOTV efforts.  I have worked ballot security as a poll watcher in precincts with a history of vote fraud where I was the only Republican, the only white person, and everybody who came into the room that day hated me.



No more.  The one word answer to your argument to bend over the desk and take one more for the team is, "Cuccinelli".  I have been a team player.  I am willing to be a team player again if the people who run the party demonstrate that they are willing to give more than lip service to the idea of party loyalty.  When the Chris Christiys and Mike Castles are out there raising money for the Sharon Angles and Christie O'Donnels instead of making snide jokes at their expense to the press, that would be an indication that their party is worth supporting or at least rejoining.  Next year is another election.  Let's see how much teamwork the moderate wing of the Republican Party demonstrates.  From past experience, my prediction is none at all.  I am not willing to try all that hard when some of the team members keep deliberately throwing the game out of spite, ideological opposition to my beliefs or because they are paid off.



Think of me as the one member of the Washington Generals who didn't know that my team wasn't ever going to win the game when he finally learns the truth.  I have other things that I can do with my time besides playing an elaborate game of three card monty.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at November 08, 2013 05:37 AM (BcCwi)

483 That was beautiful tribute to Ruth Graham and a wonderful singer; Thanks. I like that song, "Give me Jesus". you did part of my job today, OSP-Thanks. :^) That song makes me think of the phrase from the Lord's Prayer. When I think of "our daily bread" of course it involves our material sustenance but I think of it primarily as "Give me the bread of life=Jesus."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 05:37 AM (23Kgq)

484 "...the lack of any kind of dress code..."

I'm pretty sure I was the first teenager in the history of the LCMS whose mother yelled at her for not wearing too little makeup to church instead of too much. God knows what I look like, having knit me into a hideous freak in the womb and whatnot.

Can't get phoenixgirl's link to display anything here at work, I'll have to look at it later.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 08, 2013 05:38 AM (ZKzrr)

485 I've been unemployed for over 2 years, live in PA, and I sent Ken Cuccinelli $20 in May and another $20 in August.

Cuccinelli was the first AG in the country to file suit against Obamacare vs. Chris Christie who wouldn't join the other 26 Republican Governors in their suit against the law. And he never stopped fighting Obamacare. I don't feel I wasted my money.

The RNC and their "special" candidates will never see another dime from me nor will I ever man another phone bank, knock on doors or drive seniors to the polls. Who is going to do grunt work for the GOP, now that they have decided they don't need their grassroot? Oh, well, too bad.

In the end, I lost my insurance and if I can get a new policy in place by the 1st of the year, which is looking increasingly doubtful, I'm looking at paying 4x more in deductible & out-of-pocket costs. But I will always remember the people who fought tooth and nail against the Obamination - people like Ken Cuccinelli, Ted Cruz...and NOT Chris Christie who wouldn't even sign his name onto to a suit with the other Republican governors.

Posted by: jeannebodine at November 08, 2013 05:38 AM (2LJqa)

486 dump up

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 05:40 AM (zZbNF)

487 *waves to OSP*

And tonight's Mega Million cash option is $63 million.  Road trip for tickets?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 05:40 AM (arQna)

488 That was beautiful tribute to Ruth Graham and a wonderful singer; Thanks.

-----------



Fenelon -  I love Fernando Ortega .  He is superb.  He has many many videos on You Tube, and several CDs out as well.  He is an Anglican evangelical, and has a wonderful music ministry.  I think you will enjoy him.  He does a lot of traditional Christian hymns, often with modern variations that are just marvelous.  One of my favorites is his "Crown Him with Many Crowns." Vince Gill is on that track.

Posted by: mama winger at November 08, 2013 05:42 AM (P6QsQ)

489 According to the way the law is written it doesn't matter whether they stay with their company or not. It appears that company provided insurance will go away in the US.

But not until January 2015.  Yay, another year of overtime in Indiana. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 08, 2013 05:42 AM (ZKzrr)

490 On the subject of dressing for church:  I stopped wearing a jacket and tie because people kept assuming I was an usher.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at November 08, 2013 05:45 AM (BcCwi)

491 *waves to OSP* And tonight's Mega Million cash option is $63 million. Road trip for tickets? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 09:40 AM (arQna) I don't buy till it's over 100. But hey, good luck.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 08, 2013 05:45 AM (XIxXP)

492 Thanks very much. mama. I had heard the name but hadn't heard his stuff. I will look for it and post it for some of my morning hymns if I can.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2013 05:47 AM (23Kgq)

493 According to the way the law is written it doesn't matter whether they stay with their company or not. The insurance provider I used *always* permitted the employee to continue the coverage after leaving the job. But the former employee had to pay the premium. True story, guy gives notice. Goes to work for another company. He's gonna make three dollars an hour more, but no insurance coverage. He tosses the insurance letter in the trash, because it's gonna eat up all of his three dollar an hour 'raise'. He proceeds to inseminate his wife. Six months later he's banging on my door looking for his old job back. Then, after getting rehired, behind my back he's bitchin' that somehow *I'm* to blame because now he has to pay for his wife's maternity/delivery out of pocket. That ex-employee is the type that politicians pander to. The kind who will not ever except personal responsibility for their actions. Instead, it's the big bad corporations that make zillions of dollars in profits. * bangs head on desk *

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 08, 2013 05:52 AM (U2UQk)

494 488  But not until January 2015. Yay, another year of overtime in Indiana.

Posted by: HeatherRadish� needs a beer at November 08, 2013 09:42 AM (ZKzrr)


The company mandate goes into effect Jan 1 next year.  The law is written to cause your insurance to be dropped if ANYTHING in your policy has been dropped since the law went into effect. Anything includes changes in copay, rates paid by insured, etc.


That changes every year.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 05:56 AM (zZbNF)

495 "426 OSP and Sean, I get the feeling that those who go to church to feel good will be spat out like lukewarm water.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 08, 2013 09:18 AM (arQna)"



I don't presume to know how He will judge us.  I hope He is extremely merciful and grades on a curve because I am a real asshole and completely unworthy of what I hope will be my ultimate future.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at November 08, 2013 05:59 AM (BcCwi)

496 The company mandate goes into effect Jan 1 next year.

Yes, that's what I said.  2014 is covered.  2015 is when we all lose our employer-sponsored insurance. 

In the meantime, everyone who wants health insurance and has it through work is stuck--no going into consulting or anything--because all the reasonable alternatives to employer insurance were outlawed.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 08, 2013 06:03 AM (ZKzrr)

497 How is 2014 covered?

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 06:07 AM (zZbNF)

498 My employer coverage is good through 2014. 2015 I have no clue what happens.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2013 06:10 AM (2ti2X)

499 yeah so Epistemology...ie the construct of the mind that allows learning...

ie the Operating System..

There's a reason Boot Camp and AIT instructors talk about having to recalibrate the kids' thinking...

"whatever"

Sean I don't hate civil servants I am bothered that as a class they don't tend to see that their jobs can destroy the private sectors' jobs and that is mostly in a slice of the offices not all.

I am glad you weathered the bad mostly unhurt.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 06:10 AM (9jfyN)

500 Carol T,

I know things are rough for you I hope they improve.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 08, 2013 06:11 AM (9jfyN)

501 Where are y'all seeing that the "grandfathering" rule for employers doesn't go into effect until 2015? 



I'm serious as a second heart attack here.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 06:11 AM (zZbNF)

502 I know a guy with a degree in philosophy, he details cars. So you could say he gets to actually use his degree when he waxes philosophical. I groaned out loud.

Posted by: toby928© has a dirty joke at November 08, 2013 06:17 AM (QupBk)

503 We're having our open enrollment period right now. My rates have gone up for next year but no much more than usual. I'm assuming that means that 2014 is covered for us. but this time next year we'll be getting OUR cancellation notices, and that's when the nuke goes off.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 08, 2013 06:26 AM (YmPwQ)

504 I am going to have to drive into town to check for my drug refills.  Web Site has locked me out and nobody at the store is answering the phone. bbl

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2013 06:31 AM (zZbNF)

505 If you think Evangelicals are going to water the Message down to make someone feel better, you are high. Enough denomiations like the United Methodists have done so and are losing members. Pro choice comgregations arent Christian btw.

Posted by: Earl Turner at November 08, 2013 06:49 AM (wcb4h)

506 I don't doubt the government shutdown cost us in early ballots in Virginia (all so Cruz could get his name out there for the 2016 primary) but Cuccinelli was fatally flawed to begin with and was losing before the shutdown.

Republicans started winning on the issue when they let ObamaCare play out, ObamaCare's support actually increased during the shutdown and Republicans polled lower than at any point in history.  And what exactly was our prize for that stunt?  Anyone who though the law was going to be repealed was an idiot.

A mainstream, conservative Republican should have destroyed McAuliffe, it was like running against the personification of Solyndra and Enron.  The War on Women stuff worked because Cuccinelli liked to engage on those issues when wooing primary voters.  He played a dangerous game his entire career flirting with the crazies and it finally caught up with him.

Virginia needs to scarp the convention nonsense and stick with a closed, Republican primary where a broad coalition of conservatives chooses the nominee.


Posted by: McAdams at November 08, 2013 06:54 AM (EMaqJ)

507

Vic writes, "On this day in 1923 Adolf Hitler attempted, and failed, to seize control of the German government in the Beer Hall Putsch. Just imagine how the world would have been different if The Germans had locked him up for life or executed him for treason. FDR probably would have only served 2 terms and would not have been able to pack the court. "For the want of nail" is applicable here."

 

Seriously? Your main thoughts about Hitler have to do with how his absence would have affected AMERICAN ELECTORAL POLITICS? As in, the problem with Hitler is that he allowed a Democrat to be reelected?

 

WTF?

 

 

Posted by: d@d.d at November 08, 2013 07:09 AM (ITgxX)

508 So, you're saying Vic endorsed the Holocaust. Now who's the nut?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 08, 2013 07:20 AM (Y92Nd)

509 "I don't doubt the government shutdown cost us in early ballots in Virginia (all so Cruz could get his name out there for the 2016 primary) but Cuccinelli was fatally flawed to begin with and was losing before the shutdown." Anyone remember anyone excited about his campaign? At some point, we heard the tea party SHOULD BE excited about this race, and the libertarian candidate was a spoiler. That told us Cuccinelli would lose long before it happened and the establishment was blamed. Personally, I think they should have invested more in his race. They spent three times as much on McDonnell, who although popular was a drag on the ticket, because he could not stump for the candidate, much like Gore and Clinton in 2000. Republicans have lost too many races in VA, which is nearly blue. And the party just conceded it basically.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 08, 2013 07:27 AM (Y92Nd)

510 "They have their toasted Jesus right here..." That right there is funny! I don't care who you are.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 08, 2013 07:34 AM (Y92Nd)

511 TFG has something on Boehner, because he refuses to appoint a special prosecutor. I wonder what it is?

We should finish him off.

I wrote 20+ minutes ago that I have to get ready for work.

Posted by: CarolT at November 08, 2013 09:15 AM (z4WKX)

Unfortunately that's not the way it works.  First, we don't have "special prosecutors" anymore; the law authorizing those expired in 1983.  A new law was put in place that allowed "independent counsels" to be appointed by a special panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, but that law then expired in 1999 and the function was subsumed back into the DoJ under its Regulation 28 CFR Part 600.

Now, the ONLY person who can request an "independent counsel" is the Attorney General or, if he recuses himself, the Deputy Attorney General.

Posted by: HTL at November 08, 2013 07:58 AM (DV75s)

512 Odd that Gabe didn't link Domenech's piece today as "must read." Really weird. It's like Gabe has an agenda or something.

Posted by: Rich at November 08, 2013 12:10 PM (3nUrQ)

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