December 11, 2013

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— Gabriel Malor

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The Obama Admin used to say 7 million Obamacare sign-ups would mean success. Now they're saying they just made that number up . . . because there's no freakin' way they're getting to 7 million sign-ups.

New poll (PDF): most (54%) say Obamacare is having a negative impact on the countryÂ’s health care system.

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1 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Wednesday, December 11, 2013.  On this day in 1997 Housing secretary Henry Cisneros was indicted for conspiracy, obstructing justice, and false statements to the FBI.  He later pled guilty to 27 counts of conspiracy, obstructing justice, and making false statements to the FBI (in his background investigation).   Clinton subsequently pardoned him because it was just a political witch hunt by Republicans.


On to the news, there are 8 pp worth today.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:49 AM (T2V/1)

2 Ya think?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 02:50 AM (LSDdO)

3 This was the first item on the news agenda on this date in 2012.  It is even more applicable now since it starts next month.  Yes, a new "fee" or tax as Roberts would call it for Obamacare.  And it is another "hidden" tax.  Of course it is not applicable to people in the FSA and illegals who get their Obamacare FREE.  Being in the FSA evidently is a "pre-existing condition".


http://is.gd/8Yd7Pm

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:50 AM (T2V/1)

4
Ha! School today for the kids.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at December 11, 2013 02:50 AM (0IhFx)

5 DAY 402 1,059 to go (1,130 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, McAuliffe's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 02:50 AM (olDqf)

6 Yes, Hairy Reid is a crooked asshole.  Here is some more "crony corruption" as Dirty Hairy uses his Senate office to push visa applications for a Casino.  I am sure Michael Corleone also asked him to pay for the "Gaming License".  But I am certain Senate Republicans will demand an "ethics investigation". <snark>  Of course, as usual, even if one occurred they would find no wrongdoing.


http://tinyurl.com/qazorzp

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:50 AM (T2V/1)

7 Obama's having a negative impact on the whole freaking country and the world to boot!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 02:50 AM (LSDdO)

8 A real worthwhile group is taking care of a problem very few people even knew existed, including me.  Here they are burying 10 unclaimed veterans in SC but this is a nationwide organization.  I find it unfathomable that we have cremated bodies of veterans laying around in funeral homes and corner's offices that have never been buried.  Since they are a tax-exempt non-profit and not liberal Obama supporters I am sure the IRS is auditing the shit out of them.


http://tinyurl.com/navopkf

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:50 AM (T2V/1)

9 Sometimes miracles do happen.  That Nevada family who were lost in the mountains during the massive blizzard that just came through have been found alive.  This time Darwin did not win.


http://tinyurl.com/prqkg5t

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:51 AM (T2V/1)

10 Using their newfound nuclear option, Senate Democrats approved Obama's radical liberal to the DC court of appeals.  This is the court that rules on federal rules and regulations and it gives Democrats a 5-4 majority.  Counting the liberal Republicans on that bench they already had everything they needed.  All I can say is Republicans; you had better remember this shit if you take back the Senate.


BTW, that was a 56 – 38 vote so at least 3 RINOs had to vote for this scrunt and 4 more not vote at all. (note I haven't gone out an tried to find out who those were because I am sure they are the same old RINO/DIABLO crew that always stab us in the back and they make it hard to track down the names of back stabbers in Congress.


http://tinyurl.com/mbtfj5f

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:51 AM (T2V/1)

11 In NJ the Fat Man would have "Ralphie" arrested and convicted of a felony for his new "Red Rider" BB Gun.   Other States have made BB guns illegal but not as stupid as NJ.  Damn NJ Morons, why are you still living in this stupid State?


http://tinyurl.com/lltrp8h

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:51 AM (T2V/1)

12 More info on the research into the lost colony of Roanoke.  (this started last year)


http://tinyurl.com/nhtzljl

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:51 AM (T2V/1)

13 Here is a summary of the proposed budget deal that was reached yesterday.  It is a pure sham.  But look at the bright side.  It means the total collapse will come even sooner.  The treasury will just have to print more money.  That $80B a month they are printing now to fund the deficit will go even higher, and so will your grocery bills.  


Of course by 2015 EVERYONE (except the FSA, congress, illegals, and the unions) will be on Obamacide and paying $15,000 a year per family member for "insurance" with a $10,000 deductible you will not be afford anything but fish heads (offal) and rice anyway.  And don't count on Boner 'n company getting rid of this law.


http://tinyurl.com/pycty4c

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

14 A narrow ruling by the NY Supreme Court blocks CO from forcing a Fox news reporter from revealing her sources in a murder trial in CO.  I am not sure I agree with this ruling because, as they say in the article, the "crime" took place in CO so the NY court should not have jurisdiction.  And if I am not mistaken, a ruling by the US Supreme court long ago said there was no "right" to hide sources.  (but I am working from memory there and don't know if it applies to State cases or federal only).


http://tinyurl.com/pbnmd2k

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

15 Another liberal Democrap wins Ed Markey's old seat in another special election.  This was expected as this district continued to elect Ed Markey who was so far left he was bug-fk crazy.  But hey, he is a Senator now so the whole country gets to eat his turds now.


http://tinyurl.com/otfxpnw

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

16 Chris Creosote was probably beaten up on a daily basis as a kid. Explains his attitude.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 02:52 AM (olDqf)

17 Two terrorists are convicted in a CT federal court (plead guilty) of aiding and abetting terrorists with intent to kill US citizens.  What is odd about this case is they were naturalized British citizens and were extradited here.


http://tinyurl.com/p4kfraf

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

18 Yet another reason to add to the mega-list of why we need to get out of the UN.


http://tinyurl.com/o6b9yhg

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

19 Now here is a SOB who should be publicly flogged and then put away for 99 years w/o parole.


http://tinyurl.com/pk692mw

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

20 Yet another "banking rule" goes into effect to prevent another banking collapse such as 2008.


Called the Volcker rule and named after former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, who helped craft the reform, the regulations ban banks whose deposits are backed by the government from trading for their own profits, a practice known as proprietary trading.


The rules also limit banks’ ability to invest in hedge funds and private equity ventures because those entities generally take on more risk – and reap bigger profits -- than traditional investment vehicles.


No mention of what actually caused the "crisis" because it is still going on today.


http://tinyurl.com/ox8ukld

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

21 In before Vic!

Posted by: EC at December 11, 2013 02:54 AM (doBIb)

22 A Brit paper says conservatives in the House are working to kill that sell-out budget bill.


http://tinyurl.com/lmynxzv

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

23 Damn!!!!

Posted by: EC at December 11, 2013 02:54 AM (doBIb)

24 And a big fuck you to Paul Ryan. Total sell-out. He was on Levin last night, and from what I understand, Levin was not impressed, to say the least. Can't wait to hear it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 02:54 AM (olDqf)

25 I don't know what it is but it seems like this is becoming common now as a woman drives over the sidewalk into a Starbucks and injures a bunch of people.  The TSA has regulated the shit out of everything that does nothing, including spying on you with black boxes in the car.  How about requiring commercial buildings to have some type of barrier to prevent low speed vehicles from penetrating the establishment?


http://tinyurl.com/nlnjfye

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

26 So. Can we all agree that Paul Ryan is a lying spend weasel just like the rest of 'em in Congress?

Which means that that entire Republican ticket for 2012 would have resulted in a net zero improvement over what we have now.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 02:54 AM (LSDdO)

27 WAR ON CHRISTMAS:  Shaw AF base (SC) officials take down a nativity scene after a complaint by a BS liberal group who advocate for religious freedom for service members (or so their name says).  Orwellian Newspeak has now become the common mode for all of these liberal groups of assholes.


http://tinyurl.com/lycjt2x

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

28 Colon Powell opens his fat mouth and once again demonstrates that he is, and always has been, a Democrat.


http://tinyurl.com/n9dvfyo

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

29 We need a national conversation on hatchets.


http://tinyurl.com/q9q7xa6

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

30 We also need a national conversation on swords.

http://tinyurl.com/pd9nnwn

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

31 More evidence of an oncoming ice age.  Chicago has the coldest night in nearly 20 years.  One wonders if Al Bore was visiting.


http://tinyurl.com/obakf6u

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

32 Nth Fekking cold today. When's glowball warmening start?

Posted by: RolandTHTG at December 11, 2013 02:56 AM (qyoyx)

33 The Satan worshipers who want that OK monument want to make it interactive for kids.  I am beginning to wonder what their ultimate motive is here.  It appears they actually want to be denied the permission so they can engage in lawfare.


http://tinyurl.com/oghgkj4

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

34 I don't know about y'all, but I'm praying for the Second Coming.

Posted by: RushBabe at December 11, 2013 02:56 AM (hrIP5)

35 Unbelievable!  McConehead says he is a big fan of the Tea Party <sic>.


http://tinyurl.com/klowlr3

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

36 A "former illegal" who was using a fake SSN is suing because CA corrections will not hire him as a corrections officer.  (one wonders how he was "naturalized").  We will see a lot more of this kind of shit when those 20 to 30 million illegals are amnestied and made citizens after we are sold out again.  IIANM using a phony SSN is a felony so I can see why he is prohibited from working as a prison guard.


http://tinyurl.com/l47slr8

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

37 More on that TX student who was killed by a rent-a-cop that I posted on yesterday.  The cop claims he took his baton away from him and began beating him over the head with it.


http://tinyurl.com/m7tvydd


However, audio gives some story, but there is no video.


While the camera on the police cruiser was out, audio was still working which captured Carter warning Redus 56 times to stop resisting arrest, 14 times to place his hands behind his back and three times that he was under arrest. The incident is still under investigation.


http://tinyurl.com/lh6v9dj

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:57 AM (T2V/1)

38 Will the budget sellout clear the way for an amnesty deal in early 2014?   Amnesty pushers think it will.


http://tinyurl.com/n8labdu

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:57 AM (T2V/1)

39 Morning Vic. You get up this early every day? I discovered it's like, all dark n shit this time of day.....

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 02:57 AM (YEQ2h)

40 Didn't they sell this bs by claiming there were 30-45 million uninsured? If so, why would a mere 7 million be considered a success?

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 02:57 AM (h4eud)

41 SC's star defensive end is stopped for doing 110 mph on I-77.  (They had this story yesterday but I didn't post it).  Today they have released a dash video from the patrol car showing the state trooper exceeding 140 mph in traffic to catch him.  Here is the story and the video.  My question is "who is stupider, Clowney or the cop"?  


A related question is will he get to play in the bowl game?  Something else that doesn't seem kosher is he is told he can pay the fine or appear in court.  I thought when you hit speeds of that nature you had to go to jail and post bond. Did they give him a "football hero break"?


http://tinyurl.com/mcr33d4

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:57 AM (T2V/1)

42 SC PSC is holding a comment meeting for a report on changing the laws in SC for the use of solar power.  This is being pushed by an Eco-Nazi group in the State who will fill the report with a pack of lies.  I am sure a bunch of "regular" citizens will show up for this during a weekday at 9:30 in the morning.  There are two comments on this article, both from eco-Nazis.  This is how those bastards get crap through. I do hope some of the utilities send people to fight this stupid shit.


http://tinyurl.com/lggf7ub

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:58 AM (T2V/1)

43 WOW!  WaTi calls Clinton and Rice liars on Benghazi.  We also know that Clinton lied to Congress during testimony (a felony).  I am flabbergasted that WaTi is running this story.



http://tinyurl.com/l24aemb

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:58 AM (T2V/1)

44 Two RINOs praise Obama for bringing more political assholes for Obamacide.   One of them is an aid to pig nose Waxman which tells you all you need to know about him.


http://tinyurl.com/mrswan6

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:58 AM (T2V/1)

45 Did being an advocate for mass abortions help the Democrat in the VA gov race?  A study here says no, it hurt him.  I say it was shitty RNC policy, a third Party fake libertarian financed by the Democrats, and most of all, the mass of FSA around Washington.


http://tinyurl.com/khqz6gd

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:59 AM (T2V/1)

46 IBD has charts showing how phony Obama's call for more wealth redistribution is.  And note, this does not include all the transfer payments to the FSA who do not work.  Be sure to read this to provide argument material for the holidays when your liberal in-laws come to visit.


http://tinyurl.com/k625gr8

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:59 AM (T2V/1)

47 Kindle Daily Deals


What can the Morons tell me about Stanislov Lem?


http://tinyurl.com/kmk36sh


That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 02:59 AM (T2V/1)

48 The reasoning for the NY verdict is that CO was subpoenaing the reporter to come to CO and testify.

NY said NO. Because they wanted to make her testify something that was protected in NY for NY residents.

Like France won't extradite murderers facing the death penalty.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 02:59 AM (LSDdO)

49 48 Like France won't extradite murderers facing the death penalty. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 06:59 AM (LSDdO) Is that vermin Ira Einhorn still alive? Leftist professor (redundant, I know) who butchered his girlfriend in Philly in '77 then fled to France.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 03:03 AM (olDqf)

50 I'm writing my name in for all offices this year.

Come. Join me in my selfish dervish of flagellation at the polls.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 03:04 AM (LSDdO)

51 Einhorn is behind bars. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_Einhorn

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 03:04 AM (olDqf)

52 24  He was on Levin last night, and from what I understand, Levin was not impressed, to say the least. Can't wait to hear it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 06:54 AM (olDqf)


There was a video out there but I figured everyone had already seen it or read clippings.  And it is tough to get my computer to do most of these videos.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:04 AM (T2V/1)

53 GOP picks up state House seat in KY. The dam is breaking for the old Southern Dems

Posted by: Myron at December 11, 2013 03:05 AM (/J//Q)

54 14 A narrow ruling by the NY Supreme Court blocks CO from forcing a Fox news reporter from revealing her sources in a murder trial in CO. I am not sure I agree with this ruling because, as they say in the article, the "crime" took place in CO so the NY court should not have jurisdiction. And if I am not mistaken, a ruling by the US Supreme court long ago said there was no "right" to hide sources. (but I am working from memory there and don't know if it applies to State cases or federal only). http://tinyurl.com/pbnmd2k Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2013 06:52 AM (T2V/1) The crime was revealing the contents of the notebook Holmes sent to his psych. Seems like they are trying to protect the doctor and the university -- not the murderer. There's no federal shield law but I heard they were trying to enact one. Personally, the msm are so unscrupulous I don't believe they need any additional rights.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 03:05 AM (h4eud)

55 26  Which means that that entire Republican ticket for 2012 would have resulted in a net zero improvement over what we have now.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 06:54 AM (LSDdO)



Hey, but they were "electable moderates".

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:05 AM (T2V/1)

56 50 I'm writing my name in for all offices this year. Come. Join me in my selfish dervish of flagellation at the polls. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 07:04 AM (LSDdO) Buddy of mine has done that for quite a while and it's gotten to the point that his name appears in poll results. Wild.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 03:05 AM (olDqf)

57 I thought they finally arrested him and deported him or something.

they had to agree he wouldn't get the death penalty I think.

He's still in jail.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 03:06 AM (LSDdO)

58 52 There was a video out there but I figured everyone had already seen it or read clippings. And it is tough to get my computer to do most of these videos. Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2013 07:04 AM (T2V/1) Listening to the audio rewind on Levin's site.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 03:06 AM (olDqf)

59 BOHICA. Fuck it all. Good morning.

Posted by: RWC at December 11, 2013 03:06 AM (lOiQu)

60 45. Vic, it was about $$$$. If Cucc had any, he would have won. The Chamber of Commerce and Rove were too busy pushing amnesty, to help him

Posted by: Myron at December 11, 2013 03:07 AM (/J//Q)

61 39 Morning Vic. You get up this early every day? I discovered it's like, all dark n shit this time of day.....

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 06:57 AM (YEQ2h)



Hell I got up at 01:30 and started this stuff.  Took me almost 4 hours.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:07 AM (T2V/1)

62 I used to grieve for my Motherland. Now? I just stand there, head on a swivel, scanning from one side to the other, waiting for the bad shit to start the crumble-ing. Ijust hope i'll be ready to not only help myself but those nearest me. Fuck.

Posted by: fastfreefall at December 11, 2013 03:07 AM (dS5nN)

63  good read but dont do tinyurl not sure how it works

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at December 11, 2013 03:07 AM (VCoi8)

64 Paul Ryan is a huge bummer to me. Have friends who live in his Wisconsin district, and they say he is veering left because he is in a swing seat.

Posted by: Myron at December 11, 2013 03:08 AM (/J//Q)

65 I have to laugh at bohica.

It sounds innocuous. Almost fun even.

Then you look it up and realize; "oh no. That's not good".


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 03:08 AM (LSDdO)

66 49 48 Like France won't extradite murderers facing the death penalty. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 06:59 AM (LSDdO) Is that vermin Ira Einhorn still alive? Leftist professor (redundant, I know) who butchered his girlfriend in Philly in '77 then fled to France. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 07:03 AM (olDqf) Except Einhorn never faced the death penalty. The fwench were just being a bunch of dicks.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 03:09 AM (h4eud)

67 48 The reasoning for the NY verdict is that CO was subpoenaing the reporter to come to CO and testify.

NY said NO. Because they wanted to make her testify something that was protected in NY for NY residents.

Like France won't extradite murderers facing the death penalty.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 06:59 AM (LSDdO)


Yes, I figured that, but it still stands that since the "breach of source" occurred in CO, the NY court should not have had jurisdiction.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:09 AM (T2V/1)

68 65 I have to laugh at bohica. It sounds innocuous. Almost fun even. Then you look it up and realize; "oh no. That's not good". Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 07:08 AM (LSDdO) To paraphrase Sigmund Freud, sometimes a Bohica is just a cigar.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 03:11 AM (olDqf)

69 Does anybody here have any candidate in mind for the Presidency in 2016 that is worth a shit, and electable? I mean this as an honest question. I'm reallllly pessimistic about the whole thing right now. I have the feeling we are outnumbered and outlawyered. My tendency currently is to find the most conservative candidate and push them hard.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 03:12 AM (YEQ2h)

70 63 good read but dont do tinyurl not sure how it works

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at December 11, 2013 07:07 AM (VCoi


If you are using FF all you have to do is highlight it and "right clip" to open in a new window.  If using IE block copy it, open a new window and past it in the address bar.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:12 AM (T2V/1)

71 I'm putting in my bet for the United States Death Pool date of July 1, 2015.

We'll manage to limp along for one year more or so but then things will just have piled up too high and the entire economy world wide but mostly here will finally collapse.

My further prediction is 6 months to become stable again and 18 months before any progress is made.

During that time all social niceties will be in "flux", yeah that's the word I'm looking for.

FSA will find out what REAL poverty is all about.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 03:13 AM (LSDdO)

72 More info on the research into the lost colony of Roanoke. The global warming scammers hate to admit it but hurricanes and the Outer Banks can make a whole lot of people disappear without a trace. Even before the first SUV rolled off the production line.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at December 11, 2013 03:14 AM (/KGrg)

73 This Paul Ryan deal has totally pissed me off, and makes me feel a little stupid for my enthusiasm for him in 2012.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 03:14 AM (YEQ2h)

74 This is the time of year for nostalgia and reflection on days gone by, so anybody else long for the days when we were not a Banana Republic run by a dictator and his ugly, angry wife?  A dictator who is so inept that were this a movie, it would be a farce.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Weary and Wary at December 11, 2013 03:14 AM (kXoT0)

75 69 Does anybody here have any candidate in mind for the Presidency in 2016 that is worth a shit, and electable? I mean this as an honest question. I'm reallllly pessimistic about the whole thing right now. I have the feeling we are outnumbered and outlawyered. My tendency currently is to find the most conservative candidate and push them hard.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 07:12 AM (YEQ2h)


I want us to run a damn real conservative one time.  We have lost every time when we run these middle of the road shitheads.  The exception to that is Bush and people "thought" he would be a conservative.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:14 AM (T2V/1)

76 Most of the money will go into a fund administered by the Health and Human Services Department.

A slush fund by any other name is still a slush fund.

Posted by: Gomer Abams at December 11, 2013 03:15 AM (7xCUI)

77 "More evidence of an oncoming ice age. Chicago has the coldest night in nearly 20 years. One wonders if Al Bore was visiting."


Ummm...yeah about that, We're going to call it "Global Weather Confusion" from here on out.

It's a bad thing m'kay?

XOX
Big Al

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2013 03:16 AM (f1yG5)

78 Bush might not have been too bad if it weren't for 9-11.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 03:16 AM (LSDdO)

79 69. We will be fine. Obama was a abberation. Hillary has no charisma and is almost 70. Obamacare will crush the rats in 2014, and Obama will not be able to get anything done as a duck for 2 years.

Posted by: Myron at December 11, 2013 03:16 AM (/J//Q)

80 78 Bush might not have been too bad if it weren't for 9-11.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 07:16 AM (LSDdO)


Admittedly he would have been better if he had not had half a dozen RINOs like McShitty in the Senate making backdoor deals with the Democlods.



But he did cross the aisle and go with Ted the Swimmer on several socialist bills.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:18 AM (T2V/1)

81 our biggest problem right now, is the wimps in GOP leadership.

John Boehner should be blasting Reid every day about nuking the filibuster, but here we have pussy Paul Ryan caving to the rats.

Pathetic

Posted by: Myron at December 11, 2013 03:18 AM (/J//Q)

82 Ok, but the fucking government keeps growing and growing and growing, even under our Republican "allies". Not too trusting of them.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 03:19 AM (YEQ2h)

83 I like how they broke the time line right there cause in around '83 or so it was like -32 in Chi town and the chill factor was like -64. (windy city and all that you know).

I was there. I know.

This isn't out of the norm. It's a system that has cycles hundreds of years long and some even say more because there might be influences by where we are in our orbit within the galaxy.

Settled science my big fat red pattoot.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 03:19 AM (LSDdO)

84 Vic. John Roberts was Bush's worst move.

Posted by: Myron at December 11, 2013 03:19 AM (/J//Q)

85 79 69. We will be fine. Obama was a abberation. Hillary has no charisma and is almost 70. Obamacare will crush the rats in 2014, and Obama will not be able to get anything done as a duck for 2 years.

Posted by: Myron at December 11, 2013 07:16 AM (/J//Q)



Don't count on it.  Never underestimate the power of the commies to cheat and energize the FSA.  And at the same time the Republicans to run another wimpy POS "moderate" while driving the base to abandon the Party because the push some shit like amnesty while running a POS moderate.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:20 AM (T2V/1)

86 Keith Ellison (M)-onkey, demands SCOAMF unilaterally raise the minimum wage.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 03:22 AM (olDqf)

87 84 Vic. John Roberts was Bush's worst move. Posted by: Myron at December 11, 2013 07:19 AM (/J//Q) Roberts was very conservative until the obamacare bullshit. I think the Catholic social justice bs got to him -- probably through his wife.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 03:22 AM (h4eud)

88 And we here in SC are having Chicago weather this morning.  It is 23° out there now.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:23 AM (T2V/1)

89 86Keith Ellison (M)-onkey, demands SCOAMF unilaterally raise the minimum wage.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 07:22 AM (olDqf)



That would be too easy for thousands of small businesses to get standing on.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:24 AM (T2V/1)

90 Good Morning,

Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2013 03:24 AM (z4WKX)

91 My bad, it was Jan 1985 -21 and a chill of -60 (winds of 25 mph)

but 1983 was no picnic either -25 in december no record of wind chill but that may be the one I'm thinking of.

I remember we had a blizzard and nothing was moving.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 03:25 AM (LSDdO)

92 good morning Carol

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:25 AM (T2V/1)

93 No need to worry about 2016 politics just yet.

2014 will see the destruction of health care providers, insurers, and desperate people who have lost their insurance, which will take the economy down with it.

Yellen will use the power of the Fed to paper over the destruction.  For anything beyond October 2014 Consult the Magic Eight Ball website online.

Posted by: Gomer Abams at December 11, 2013 03:25 AM (7xCUI)

94 I wonder if in 2017 we will be forced to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the russian revolution.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 03:25 AM (h4eud)

95 And it's worth noting that Einhorn's lawyer, who go his bail reduced, was Arlen Specter, who was a dickbag even then.

Posted by: --- at December 11, 2013 03:25 AM (MMC8r)

96 Greetings and salutations, pixel people. It appears we're more screwed than yesterday but not as screwed as we'll be tomorrow. SNAFU, y'all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 11, 2013 03:26 AM (0HooB)

97 The Satan worshipers who want that OK monument want to make it interactive for kids. I am beginning to wonder what their ultimate motive is here. It appears they actually want to be denied the permission so they can engage in lawfare. http://tinyurl.com/oghgkj4 Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2013 06:56 AM (T2V/1) I think about 90% of things like this are for the purpose of lawfare. If the governing body was to say yes, the idiots get their way. If a court says yes, the legal system has validated their beliefs and says that the public has to honor them. That's the ultimate goal.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 11, 2013 03:26 AM (QR7wx)

98 We were having wind chills of -60° when I was there in 1970.  And some drunk asshole ripped the barracks door off the hinges and it took them 3 days to fix it.


I slept about 10 feet from that door.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:26 AM (T2V/1)

99 Snarlin' Arlen was and always will be a dickbag. (is he alive still?)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 03:26 AM (LSDdO)

100 Senate votes 56-38 to confirm Patricia Millat to the DC circuit. Now the DC Circuit is majority leftist. And several Republicans voted to confirm. Packing the courts like Reggie packs SCOAMF's fudge. And there goes the judiciaryÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 03:26 AM (olDqf)

101 50 -

How dare you?  As my buddy DrewM would say, what right do you have to punish those people in office by daring to challenge them? 

I am a little disappointed in Gabe though.  I would have thought he might be gloating  a bit this morning, since Drew is again challenging him for Biggest Boogerhead  amongst  the Cobs. 


Posted by: BurtTC at December 11, 2013 03:27 AM (BeSEI)

102 "I am flabbergasted that WaTi is running this story."

?.   Have they been silent on Benghazi or are you confusing the Post and the Times?

Posted by: lowandslow at December 11, 2013 03:28 AM (IV4od)

103 89 That would be too easy for thousands of small businesses to get standing on. Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2013 07:24 AM (T2V/1) See my post at 100. The courts are well on their way to being a rubber stamp for the Leviathan, if it ain't already.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 03:28 AM (olDqf)

104 99 Snarlin' Arlen was and always will be a dickbag. (is he alive still?)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 07:26 AM (LSDdO)


No he died this year I think.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:28 AM (T2V/1)

105 Don't count on it. Never underestimate the power of the commies to cheat and energize the FSA.  Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2013 07:20 AM (T2V/1)

Anybody in the Horde who lives in a Blue or Purple state, take the simple step of getting on your local election board.  It is our fault, if we let them cheat.
Decades ago, Oklahoma massively reformed our voting process and over time, our state has gone from being a Democratic stronghold to a Conservative Republican one.  Oklahoma Congressman Carl Albert (D) served 30 years and was Speaker of the House for 6 years.  When the vote is honest, the people who deserve to be in office get elected and the the ones who need firing get fired. 

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Weary and Wary at December 11, 2013 03:28 AM (kXoT0)

106 Like France won't extradite murderers facing the death penalty. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 06:59 AM (LSDdO) We promise we won't give him the death penalty if you return him. Oops. We had our fingers crossed.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 11, 2013 03:29 AM (QR7wx)

107 Only enough time for the old in-out this morning. Work beckons. Merry Christmas to teh Horde. Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 11, 2013 03:29 AM (0HooB)

108 102  Have they been silent on Benghazi or are you confusing the Post and the Times?

Posted by: lowandslow at December 11, 2013 07:28 AM (IV4od)



WaTi is left of center, just not as bad as WaPo.  They normally don't print stories calling the Obamanites liars.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:30 AM (T2V/1)

109 Snarling Arlen died Oct. 2012.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Weary and Wary at December 11, 2013 03:31 AM (kXoT0)

110 Anybody watch SOA? You knew it was coming but I didn't think it would happen that way.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 03:31 AM (h4eud)

111 70 63
good read but dont do tinyurl not sure how it works


Posted by: jimmytheclaw at December 11, 2013 07:07 AM (VCoi

If you are using FF all you have to do is highlight it and "right clip" to open in a new window. If using IE block copy it, open a new window and past it in the address bar.

wanted to post a link but was too long

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at December 11, 2013 03:33 AM (VCoi8)

112 " This time Darwin did not win."

Or Darwin did win.  Apparently they were fit to survive.


Posted by: Jimbo at December 11, 2013 03:33 AM (V70Uh)

113 Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 07:14 AM (YEQ2h) That makes us a majority! Ryan is full of it.

Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2013 03:34 AM (z4WKX)

114 Current temperature here in SE Pa is 16 degrees, and the price of home heating oil is twice was it was when Obama was elected. Thank you, free shit army.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at December 11, 2013 03:34 AM (/KGrg)

115 wanted to post a link but was too long

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at December 11, 2013 07:33 AM (VCoi


Oh, you want to make a tinyurl.  Just open the tinyurl site and copy the link you want to shorten and paste it in the blank for making a short one then click on the button.  It's easy.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:35 AM (T2V/1)

116 Jimmytheclaw Tiny URL dot com us pretty self explanatory. Copy the long link. Paste into a window. Click "make tiny url" And it gives you a short URL to copy, then paste into your comment. Very easy.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 11, 2013 03:36 AM (nttL5)

117 112 Or Darwin did win. Apparently they were fit to survive.
Posted by: Jimbo at December 11, 2013 07:33 AM (V70Uh)


That was based on my "remark" from yesterday where I said he had to know that blizzard was coming and chose to take his family up in the remote mountains anyway.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:36 AM (T2V/1)

118 34 Maranatha ? I can relate to your feelings I am praying the Divine Mercy Chaplet of St Faustina: http://www.praydivinemercy.com/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 03:37 AM (BC6cY)

119 Regarding Einhorn, there was no special circumstance that would have made the murder a capital crime. Also, at the time of the crime, PA did not have the death penalty on the books so he could not have been charged even if they did have a special circ. Yet, there was constant whining by the euroweenies and the american left about poor Ira and the hell with the young woman rotting in the trunk. The idiots who hid him for all those years are despicable. I think he married a scandi while in hiding.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 03:38 AM (h4eud)

120 73 This Paul Ryan deal has totally pissed me off, and makes me feel a little stupid for my enthusiasm for him in 2012. Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 07:14 AM (YEQ2h) It's not that I was enthusiastic for Mitt-Eddie Munster, it's that I was desperate to excise the SCOAMF cancer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 03:38 AM (olDqf)

121 JJ's observation about the confirmation of the latest Communists to the Federal court system is just another nail in our coffins. They own the courts which means the game is truly rigged 24/7. The control these bastards will increasingly have is growing faster and faster now. Sorry for being so pessimistic today, all. This fucking stunt of Paul Ryan has gotten to me... Feel like a fool for being a fan.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 03:39 AM (YEQ2h)

122 MSM doing it's best to cover for Obama's 'selfie'. But Bush got his picture taken too!!!!!

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at December 11, 2013 03:40 AM (/KGrg)

123 Current temperature here in SE Pa is 16 degrees, and the price of home heating oil is twice was it was when Obama was elected. Thank you, free shit army. Posted by: Regular Moron at December 11, 2013 07:34 AM (/KGrg) ItÂ’s warmer here within six miles of Boston, but I canÂ’t buy anything all winter unless it is a necessity to pay my oil bill. TFG will never okay the Keystone Pipeline.

Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2013 03:40 AM (z4WKX)

124 Oh yeah re: Rep. Grayson (D) someone want to 'splain to me how someone making (what 185K?) has the cash to invest 18 million?

All those f*ckers in Congress who's net worth is over 1 mill should be kicked out.

Forget term limits how about net worth limits?

They don't have skin in the game anymore and especially with all the exemptions that Congress grants itself.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 03:41 AM (LSDdO)

125 TFG will never okay the Keystone Pipeline.

Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2013 07:40 AM (z4WKX)


The problem this time isn't supply and demand.  The problem this time is worthless money and federal regulations. All brought about by the SOB in the WH.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:42 AM (T2V/1)

126 Th Satanic group in Oklahoma wants a display of the literary/historic Satan. They clearly don't like Christianity. Most of the Satanist groups don't believe in God-much less Satan. It's a little dress up and often with orgies to stick a finger in the eye of people roots. I knew a guy who was a Satanist. He resented his background and wanted to shock both his parents and his in laws. These people have already given themselves to the being they don't believe in.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 03:43 AM (BC6cY)

127

110: "Anybody watch SOA? You knew it was coming but I didn't think it would happen that way"

 

Clay or Tara?

Posted by: Azenogoth at December 11, 2013 03:43 AM (Kh+vp)

128 The commies control the media, control education, control municipal government, and control the courts, control regulatory agencies. Yeah, we're fucked. Our ace in the hole, however, they will eventually run out of our money.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 03:44 AM (h4eud)

129 Did all you Morons watch that video of the cop doing > 140 mph in traffic?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:44 AM (T2V/1)

130 116 Jimmytheclaw

Tiny URL dot com us pretty self explanatory.
Copy the long link. Paste into a window. Click "make tiny url"
And it gives you a short URL to copy, then paste into your comment.

Very easy

http://tinyurl.com/k7hybgc

cool heres alook at tfg agenda

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at December 11, 2013 03:44 AM (VCoi8)

131 128  Our ace in the hole, however, they will eventually run out of our money.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 07:44 AM (h4eud)



We ran out of money long ago.  They are simply going Weimar now.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:45 AM (T2V/1)

132

>>I am beginning to wonder what their ultimate motive is here. It appears they actually want to be denied the permission so they can engage in lawfare.
.

.

.Come on Vic, that's the way those kinds of things are handled these days.  Don't use the slow legislative process, go judge shopping and win quickly!

Posted by: Registered voter at December 11, 2013 03:45 AM (nUbHY)

133 127 110: "Anybody watch SOA? You knew it was coming but I didn't think it would happen that way" Clay or Tara? Posted by: Azenogoth at December 11, 2013 07:43 AM (Kh+vp) Shhh! No spoilers, otherwise someone will whine.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 03:46 AM (h4eud)

134 131  Posted by: jimmytheclaw at December 11, 2013 07:44 AM (VCoi



Hell, he has been doing that for the past 5 years anyway.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:46 AM (T2V/1)

135 you know what this blog needs? a sign language interpreter .......

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at December 11, 2013 03:47 AM (u8GsB)

136

Morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes.  Thanks for the morning briefing, Vic.  Today, a couple of quick quips from the master of droll comedy, W.C. Fields, both of which the Horde will appreciate:

 

 

Whenever the federal excise tax on liquor went up, Fields would lament, “The cost of living has gone up another dollar a quart!”

 

 

Another story has Harpo Marx visiting FieldsÂ’ house at 2015 DeMille Drive*.  At one point in the tour, Fields took Marx to the attic, which was packed stem to stern with hundreds of crates of booze.  “Bill,” Harpo asked, “donÂ’t you know ProhibitionÂ’s over?”

 

 

Fields gave Harpo a sideling look.  “You never can tell, my boy.  It may come back.”

 

 

Oh, what the heck – letÂ’s have another story.  Apologies if IÂ’ve told it before.

 

 

Fields and Mae West are forever linked as comic partners in the minds of classic movie lovers, even though they only made one movie together – 1940s My Little Chickadee.**  Both argued over lines and characterizations throughout the film, and ended the shoot with a hearty dislike of each other.

 

 

West, as it happens, was – as even so sympathetic a biographer as Simon Louvish admits – as essentially selfish woman whose only efforts were directed towards the creation and maintenance of the character “Mae West.”  She disliked being thought of as merely a plush-figured double-entendre actress, and was offended when she thought people were belittling her talents. 

 

 

Once, at a dinner party hosted by Roddy MacDowell, soprano Beverly Sills asked West who had dubbed her in the aria “My Heart at Thy Sweet Voice”*** during an opera scene in 1935s GoinÂ’ To Town.  “What do yÂ’mean, who dubbed it?” West cried.  “I sang it myself.  After all, IÂ’ve got a trained voice.”

 

 

“I wasnÂ’t aware,” Sills responded, hoping to drop the subject.  “How wonderful!”

 

 

But West wasnÂ’t finished.  “Do yÂ’know that aria?” she demanded.  “I think I used to,” Sills mumbled, wanting only to get away.  “I donÂ’t anymore.”

 

 

“Well, IÂ’ll tell you one thing about it,” West lectured the Met diva.  “It ainÂ’t easy!”

 

 

And here’s a picture of W.C. Fields examining Mae West’s “symmetrical digits” in My Little Chickadee:

 

 

http://tinyurl.com/nhxzbsj

 

Hope you all have a wonderful day.

 

*C.B. himself was the only other occupant of the street, living at number 2000.

 

 

**actresses Elsie Cavana and Alison Skipworth were usually the featured female players in FieldsÂ’ films.

 

 

***“Mon cœur s’ouvre à ta voix” from the opera Samson and Delilah by Camille Saint-Saëns.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2013 03:48 AM (zF6Iw)

137 Posted by: Registered voter at December 11, 2013 07:45 AM (nUbHY) Yep. They want the other monument taken down. So they're all for "history" as long as it isn't the history of how long the monument in OK has been there.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 03:48 AM (BC6cY)

138 69 Rick Perry (big maybe, but if he is off painkillers it is possible) Scott Walker Rand Paul Ted Cruz With O'Care I think even with cheating dems lose

Posted by: Dandolo at December 11, 2013 03:49 AM (0XBx+)

139 Posted by: Azenogoth at December 11, 2013 07:43 AM (Kh+vp) When Jax goes on and on about doing everything for his family and his sons I don't think he means Tara and the little blond boys. Why wouldn't he just give her a divorce? Why would you want your kids to be around junkies, criminals, murderers, whores and pimps? Probably because he's afraid of his mommy.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 03:49 AM (h4eud)

140 Am I late or are you all early? Hi. "New poll: most (54%) say Obamacare is having a negative impact on the countryÂ’s health care system." 46% of poll respondents remain abysmally ill-informed. See? Sometimes I do read the posts!

Posted by: Clove Candycigars, the mindful webworker at December 11, 2013 03:51 AM (i5xnd)

141 Wait..7 million sign ups for Obama's government man dated insurance?

But weren't there 30 million uninsured? So if Obama is going to be a success, don't they have to get those 30 million people covered?  So does that mean 23 million go on Medicaid?

Ok, so good so far, but what about those people who lose their insurance? They stay uninsured?

Ok so Obama says 30 mil uninsured can't get 'care' which is a lie right from the beginning, but now those 30 mil are insured and 30 million other people who were insured are now uninsured because that would be fair.

Progress!

Posted by: Hay Seus Bafflementi at December 11, 2013 03:51 AM (Onfqs)

142 137  Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2013 07:48 AM (zF6Iw)



And to think HBO is casting that scrunt Bette Midler to play her in a bio flick.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:51 AM (T2V/1)

143 130 Did all you Morena watch that video of the cop doing > 140 mph in traffic? No. I missed that. Did he have a decent reason. Someone's rights need violating?

Posted by: shredded chi at December 11, 2013 03:51 AM (nttL5)

144 144 No. I missed that. Did he have a decent reason. Someone's rights need violating?

Posted by: shredded chi at December 11, 2013 07:51 AM (nttL5)



See post 41

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 03:53 AM (T2V/1)

145 So. Mitch McConnell; Lying douche or Mendacious shit sandwich?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 03:55 AM (LSDdO)

146 I think Rick Perry isnÂ’t running for governor again to take the time to get ready to run for president. I like him, he has one of those infectious smiles that makes me want to smile. In addition to his back surgery, he was, I believe the only one in 2011 that had a real job and he had to deal with the wildfires in TX. Plus that turd Rove went out of his way to badmouth him on FNC. The Bushes & PerryÂ’s have had a long running feud. Rove just wonÂ’t let it go. I only hope FNC will get rid of Rove,heÂ’s inconsequential now & has been for years. They should have gotten rid of him after his tantrum on election night 2012.

Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2013 03:56 AM (z4WKX)

147 146 So. Mitch McConnell; Lying douche or Mendacious shit sandwich?""......"............. LOL

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 03:58 AM (YEQ2h)

148 Does anybody here have any candidate in mind for the Presidency in 2016 that is worth a shit, and electable? I mean this as an honest question. I'm reallllly pessimistic about the whole thing right now. I have the feeling we are outnumbered and outlawyered. My tendency currently is to find the most conservative candidate and push them hard.

 

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 07:12 AM (YEQ2h)

 

Right at the moment?  Cruz, Gowdy or Paul.  However, the problem is this - unless (and it's a big unless) the GOP nominee, if elected, doesn't immediately seize the Obama example and push through a shitload of EOs and runarounds past Congress to smash Leviathan (as well as ignoring, marginalizing and dismissing the screams of the hypocrites on the left) - then holding the Oval Office counts for nothing. 

 

Obama has set the example of a dictatorial presdent who can ignore the Constitution, and the left is happy with it.  I say we do the same thing and shove it down their throats until they choke and die.  That also means putting the RINOs on fucking notice that they'll get their asses handed to them if they obstruct the actions in any way.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2013 03:58 AM (zF6Iw)

149 56 I didn't know you were a friend of Pat Paulsen.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 11, 2013 03:58 AM (Zswg6)

150 The pope is Time's POTY.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 11, 2013 03:59 AM (h+C/x)

151 Whenever I have a competent vehicle for it, I'll deliberately drive into impending weather on whatever pretense of a mission. I'd have a hard time forgiving the guy for cutting doughnuts in the snow though, at the edge of a dropoff, 20 miles from Burning Man. I preach the old gospel: it's enough of a thrill just to motor along in the wild, like driving a mule train, keeping between the telegraph poles (the Latin verb for "to do" or "to go" -- it's the source of "act" -- also means to drive a mule). No reason to get all fancy with nobody even watching. But do they listen? No-o-o.

Also, that fucking game-playing device in its gay little holster will not save your ass anywhere west of the big river. Carry a map. Jesus Christ, people.

Looks like most of what he did after that was sensible though. And how about that Civil Air Patrol? Citizens don't get no solider than those guys. God bless 'em.  

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 11, 2013 03:59 AM (xq1UY)

152 "Buddy of mine has done that for quite a while and it's gotten to the point that his name appears in poll results.

Wild."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 07:05 AM (olDqf)

At least he knows his ballot was counted. I've been writing in a friends name for Soil and Water commission for years for this reason.

re Levin: He gave Ryan crap for $2.3 billion / year in savings. Called it Mickey Mouse more than once. Ryan just paraphrased Boner for an excuse.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 11, 2013 04:00 AM (gHDMy)

153 So Ace was right...Pope Francis is Time's person on the year. Give that man a cookie!

And lo, a shit was not given.

Posted by: Stu-22 at December 11, 2013 04:00 AM (k4bdL)

154 They only put up the Pope because he's a socialist radical and say bad stuff about capitalism plus I think he's a couple beads shy of a rosary.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 04:00 AM (LSDdO)

155 And thanks Vic. Lotta work today. Must've been up about the time Ace was turning in.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 11, 2013 04:01 AM (gHDMy)

156 150  Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2013 07:58 AM (zF6Iw)


The first thing he could do all on his own is roll back EVERY regulation that was approved during the Obamanite regime.  He could do that on his own just like Obama did.  That would do the most to improving the economy.


Then he could start firing people.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 04:01 AM (T2V/1)

157 Carol, I liked Perry too, even tho a lot of my fellow Horders didn't. I'm just having some trust issues about the Pubbies ----- sort of like the trust issues Harry Reid's scout troop has.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 04:01 AM (YEQ2h)

158 Yes, a new "fee" or tax as Roberts would call it for Obamacare.

Isn't it waived for unions?

My employer is picking it up, but they also took away 56 hours of paid holidays, so I think they more than made up their $63.  Bastards.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 11, 2013 04:02 AM (hO8IJ)

159 So Ace was prescient. :^) His article yesterday was excellent. I wonder how much of "Times" article by the devoted Roman Catholics (sarc) will explain how Pope Francis wants to get rid of RC dogma. LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 04:02 AM (BC6cY)

160 The pope is now a lefty icon. I wonder why he wasn't spewing all his social justice crap between 1976 and 1983?

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 04:02 AM (h4eud)

161 157 And thanks Vic. Lotta work today. Must've been up about the time Ace was turning in.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 11, 2013 08:01 AM (gHDMy)


Like I said, started at 01:30 (cats woke me up)

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 04:03 AM (T2V/1)

162 Clowney was a pre season favorite to be the number one draft pick, but then he didn't play a full season, and now his future employers know that he might wrap himself around a tree or kill someone with his car, that can't help his stock.

Posted by: Godzilla at December 11, 2013 04:03 AM (ZshNr)

163 Just heard Paul Ryan on Levin from last night. His plan is to prevent the Titanic from sinking by bailing the water with a Dixie CupÂ… while the rest of the crew pees on the deck. Totally useless.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 04:03 AM (olDqf)

164 Er...Paul Ryan "negotiates" a budget deal with sub-idiot disgrace Patty Murray (D-Derp)? That's enough to make a man drink. Screw it. DOOM! SMOD!

Posted by: Stu-22 at December 11, 2013 04:03 AM (k4bdL)

165 The first person here that brings up "electability" in '16 is gonna get a jolt thru their usb port from me.

That goes for the cobs too.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 04:04 AM (LSDdO)

166 160  Isn't it waived for unions?

My employer is picking it up, but they also took away 56 hours of paid holidays, so I think they more than made up their $63. Bastards.

Posted by: HeatherRadish� at December 11, 2013 08:02 AM (hO8IJ)


I haven't seen anything that said they were waiving that one.  They have waived the "penalty" for Cadillac plans and non-compliance though.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 04:05 AM (T2V/1)

167 45. Vic, it was about $$$$. If Cucc had any, he would have won. The Chamber of Commerce and Rove were too busy pushing amnesty, to help him

Posted by: Myron at December 11, 2013 07:07 AM (/J//Q)


The RNC stood idly by while McAuliffe's lie and smear advertising campaign ran 24/7 for MONTHS prior to the election.   Cucc didn't have the bucks to spend to respond until very close to the election, and by then the LiV /FSA contingent had been thoroughly indoctrinated into how evil Cucc really was.  Having an army of worthless federal employees in Northern VA didn't help either.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2013 04:05 AM (o3MSL)

168 Perry for 2016, at least at this early date. If Scott Walker decides to join in, I'd go for it. Too early to run for Cruz and Paul. They would have to leave their Senate terms unfinished, and look what that did for Palin. Perry is set up the best out of all of them. But we'll run McCain again, on the advice of the media.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 11, 2013 04:06 AM (i2Lsf)

169 As for the Media, the man of the year is a Progressive, not from the US, preaches Liberation Theology of a sort, and can be construed as not Polar Bear white. So, what's not to like?

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 04:06 AM (YEQ2h)

170 MPPPP, I love Ted Cruz, he has balls that most of the rest lack! I was thinking more of a governor as a candidate but I would support Ted in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2013 04:07 AM (z4WKX)

171 170  But we'll run McCain again, on the advice of the media.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 11, 2013 08:06 AM (i2Lsf)


Right now the media is all in the bag for the Fat Man Who Ate NJ.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 04:07 AM (T2V/1)

172 they also took away 56 hours of paid holidays Ah, I ah think, at a certain point ah you've had enough paid vacation.

Posted by: The Precedent [/i] at December 11, 2013 04:07 AM (/KGrg)

173 So, everybody has to send obammy another $5.25 a month because why? It may see paltry but they will just nickle and dime people to death. People on fixed incomes or underemployed -- they are getting by but all this free shit will drive them into poverty. I hope they loved the idea of affordable insurance that they can't afford to use.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 04:07 AM (h4eud)

174

And to think HBO is casting that scrunt Bette Midler to play her in a bio flick.


 

Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2013 07:51 AM (T2V/1)

 

If it's any consolation, Vic, it'll suffer the fate of most bios and die the death of a thousand dogs.  In any event, the casting of Midler is somewhat appropriate - underground rumor for years was that West was a drag queen (which she obviously wasn't), so casting Midler is, I think, poetic justice.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2013 04:07 AM (zF6Iw)

175 I don't know what to make of Pope Francis because I don't believe a word of the press coverage.  Perhaps it's cognitive dissonance on my part.  If he's a commie, then do I have to find another Church?  Who would I then go to?  The gay Anglicans?

For now, I am biding my time.  The truth will out.

Posted by: Jimbo at December 11, 2013 04:08 AM (V70Uh)

176 I can only hope Perry will run again.  But the GOP wants Christie.  And the MFM wants Christie until he runs against the Donk, then they will stab Christie in the back.  Well, you guys know how it works, same old song and dance.

Posted by: Case at December 11, 2013 04:08 AM (9mWut)

177 So. Mitch McConnell; Lying douche or Mendacious shit sandwich?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 07:55 AM (LSDdO)


Choices, choices, choices.


Do I have to pick just one?

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2013 04:08 AM (o3MSL)

178 Find a church that still says Latin Mass.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 04:09 AM (LSDdO)

179 I have mixed feelings about the budget deal. Sure it's awful in every way, but OTOH, the only thing that could possibly halt Obama's crashing poll numbers is another shutdown. Passing this deal would eliminate the only card he has to play. He'll just be ranting about the minimum wage until 2014

Posted by: Jose at December 11, 2013 04:09 AM (zc/sw)

180 Having heard Ryan on Levin last night I'm a bit more charitable toward him than I was before I heard him.  First of all, it's pretty fucking obvious that Top Men want to avoid a shutdown and are willing to eat a fairly large turd sammich to do just that.  I don't think that a shutdown will be a big fucking deal to voters who are already irate over 404Care but I know that isn't a sentiment that every moron shares with me.  Anyway with those as his marching orders and knowing that there won't be any progress toward a balanced budget as long as Gaylord Focker is in office (which he stated near the end of the Levin interview) I think he probably got the best deal he thought he could get.  He admitted the savings are "Mickey Mouse" so he's not trumpeting it as some magic panacea.  I think Levin considers him honest but naive.  I gave him credit for coming on the show knowing that he would get blasted.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 11, 2013 04:09 AM (4ChnR)

181 Carol for a Gov how about Nikki Haley?  Then it will be Niki vs Cankles who everyone on the other side is pushing.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 04:09 AM (T2V/1)

182 In the POTY discussion, it was posited that Francis has never twerked. There's a rumor about that, while a student, Bergoglio worked as a bar bouncer (indeed, Buenos Aires being a Catholic city, some say a brothel). So, bold assertion.

At least Truman really could play the piano.

Also, goes further in accounting for his take on "capitalism."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 11, 2013 04:10 AM (xq1UY)

183 The pope is now a lefty icon. I wonder why he wasn't spewing all his social justice crap between 1976 and 1983 1978 and 2005?

FIFY

Hint:  JPII

Posted by: Jimbo at December 11, 2013 04:10 AM (V70Uh)

184 I haven't seen anything that said they were waiving that one. They have waived the "penalty" for Cadillac plans and non-compliance though.

Hrm, hard to tell.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303309504579182061106839366

I expect them to waive it and just not release that information to the public.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 11, 2013 04:11 AM (hO8IJ)

185 The pope is Time's POTY.

 

Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 11, 2013 07:59 AM (h+C/x)

 

Of course he is.

 

But it's Time.  Let's face it, Highlights for Children has more political gravitas than that collection  of pre-sliced bum fodder.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2013 04:12 AM (zF6Iw)

186 Christie, McCain, what's the difference? Even Romney was too far right for the media to support, even in the initial part of his candidacy.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 11, 2013 04:13 AM (i2Lsf)

187 Posted by: Case at December 11, 2013 08:08 AM (9mWut)

I can guarantee that when (not if) the MFM turns on Chrispie Cream, it'll be because of his "health" and "Appearance".

Some of them may even have the balls to say HE'S FAT!!.
But that's where they'll stick the knife first. Right in that Fatback. Or Jowls.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 04:13 AM (LSDdO)

188 I love all the Latin at mass, especially Latin hymns. That said I thought I would love the Latin Mass, until I went. Beautiful, once. NOt something I would want every time I go to Mass. Love a good homily too much.

Posted by: Dandolo at December 11, 2013 04:13 AM (0XBx+)

189 Don't believe a damn thing the MFM said bout the people blaming Republicans for that phony shutdown.


Their only evidence of that was a shit poll from a liberal polling outfit.  Later polls by more responsible people blamed both equally.


But the "people" still do not know there was NO government shutdown.,

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 04:13 AM (T2V/1)

190 No, he's not really a Progressive. The media takes things out of context. Does he have some concerns about the poor and critiques of capitalism? Yes, that is too expected of someone from Argentina. No progressive would talk about Christianity in the way he does: http://www.catholicbible101.com/popefrancisquotes.htm Caveat; I am not saying I endorse everything in this article as I think people who aren't RC are part of the "true" Church, but the author has a good handle on how the media regards Pope Francis.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 04:14 AM (BC6cY)

191 156 -

It's an interesting thing though.  I'm as critical of this Pope as anybody, because it IS his job to be the rock.  And if he's out there saying "ssshh, don't talk about dogma and rules," he's not doing his job the right way.

However, I think there are lefties who really expect him to come out and declare things like abortion, contraception and gay marriage to be A-OK with the "new and improved" Catholic Church, and that just ain't gonna happen. 

Wait to see their reaction when it becomes obvious to them. 

Posted by: BurtTC at December 11, 2013 04:14 AM (BeSEI)

192 Einhorn. A fellow Fightin' Quaker. The house where he killed Holly Maddux is about 10 blocks from me. Sunlight from a clear blue sky reflects off the snow and fills our house with a golden glow. I do not want to walk ten blocks in 26 degrees. Snow again pn Saturday/

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at December 11, 2013 04:14 AM (a5ljo)

193 188  Even Romney was too far right for the media to support, even in the initial part of his candidacy.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 11, 2013 08:13 AM (i2Lsf)


It doesn't matter who the Republicans run, the MFM will lie about them and trash them at every opportunity.  That is the thing we can never get across to these "moderate electability" purists.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 04:15 AM (T2V/1)

194 Aaaaand...the JEF's poll numbers are springing back to pre-404Care roll-out territory. LIV's...they never fail to sink to new levels.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 11, 2013 04:16 AM (7ObY1)

195 I can only hope Perry will run again. But the GOP wants Christie. And the MFM wants Christie until he runs against the Donk, then they will stab Christie in the back. Well, you guys know how it works, same old song and dance.

Posted by: Case at December 11, 2013 08:08 AM (9mWut)



First of all, there is no way in Hell I want Fat Fuck as a President, so don't act like I do.  Having said that, as a candidate he'd be a damn sight better than a warm turd like Romney, who was a terrible campaigner both in strategy and execution.  As was McCain.  I hate Fat Fuck because he's a lib but as a candidate he wouldn't be shy about getting in somebody's face if they came up with a snarky comment rather than just puss out like Saint Willard the Twat.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 11, 2013 04:16 AM (4ChnR)

196 He admitted the savings are "Mickey Mouse" so he's not trumpeting it as some magic panacea. Since there are no savings, but a net increase in spending, it's more "Bad Japanese Tentacle Porn Anime." I'm done arguing about budget stuff, just as I tired of arguing about Obamacare and the bailouts. Bad policies are bad policies. End.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 11, 2013 04:17 AM (659DL)

197 So, everybody has to send obammy another $5.25 a month because why?

You pay it all up front or no insurance.

Hey, that tank of gas was just going to make the baby Gaia cry, you don't really need to drive to work this week, do you?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 11, 2013 04:17 AM (hO8IJ)

198

I don't know what to make of Pope Francis because I don't believe a word of the press coverage. Perhaps it's cognitive dissonance on my part. If he's a commie, then do I have to find another Church? Who would I then go to? The gay Anglicans?


For now, I am biding my time. The truth will out.

 

Posted by: Jimbo at December 11, 2013 08:08 AM (V70Uh)

 

Look at it this way: the Church didn't stop being the Mystical Bride of Christ when Alexander VI was Pope, so it won't cease being the True Church with Francis.  If he is a commie - and I don't think he's full-bore red, just pink from having been steeped in Argentine crony capitalilsm - then ignore him and do your best to fight against litugical changes.

 

Just my 2 cents.  Fenelon will no doubt have better advice.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2013 04:18 AM (zF6Iw)

199 197 Posted by: Captain Hate at December 11, 2013 08:16 AM (4ChnR)


Yeah, but what good would it do if he got elected?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 04:18 AM (T2V/1)

200 @178 Case "I can only hope Perry will run again. But the GOP wants Christie. And the MFM wants Christie..." You have nothing to fear with a Christie Presidency.

Posted by: John McCain at December 11, 2013 04:18 AM (xMZ57)

201 By then you won't have a full time job to have to drive to anyway.

Don't worry. Be happy.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 04:18 AM (LSDdO)

202 Fenelon, I greatly respect your commentary, but on the subject of Francis, I suppose we'll just have to disagree. Eh, on the other hand to quote a hero of Obama's, "the Pope, how many divisions does he have?"

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 04:19 AM (YEQ2h)

203 >>Didn't they sell this bs by claiming there were 30-45 million uninsured? If so, why would a mere 7 million be considered a success?

Because it was never about health insurance, it's about control. And *that* part is going as planned.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2013 04:19 AM (JRmiD)

204 Vic, Cankles is overrated. I think her expiration date is long past. I do not think the electorate is ready for another first now, we have the first “black” president. I do not think we are ready for a first woman. It’s nothing against Nikki but I think the reasonable people will win out this time and elect a republican man after the TFGcare disaster. I will stay home rather than vote for Christie. He should change to dem & run against Hillary as Rush suggests.

Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2013 04:21 AM (z4WKX)

205 I just became a grandmother recently and since the news of my granddaughter's arrival in this world, I have had difficulty sleeping due to the fact that she will grow up in such a fucked up world that it literally brings me to tears. And trying to sleep with a stuffed-up nose is the pits. I'd like to believe that the upcoming elections will change something. But I don't. I hope there's a special level of Hell for every single one of these fucks that have "made good into evil, and evil into good."

Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 11, 2013 04:21 AM (h+C/x)

206 Yeah, but what good would it do if he got elected?

Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2013 08:18 AM (T2V/1)



It would do no good; if the Repubs control everything it would be more GWB budget busting dogshit.  Rove would be so happy he'd start talking about a "permanent Repuke majority" again.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 11, 2013 04:22 AM (4ChnR)

207 Just heard Levin interview the state rep from Indiana about the Mt. Vernon Assembly. Reps from 30 states were there and they laid out the way forward for an Article V convention. Good!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 04:22 AM (olDqf)

208

>>Cankles is overrated. I think her expiration date is long past.
.

.

.Americans are a shallow people and we don't vote for ugly, She would be 70 when she was sworn in and she looks like hell right now, just sayin....

Posted by: Registered voter at December 11, 2013 04:23 AM (nUbHY)

209 Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 11, 2013 08:21 AM (h+C/x)

For what it's worth, every parent, every grandparent has felt this way since the beginning of the human race. And here in the USofA we've managed better than most so do what you can, prepare for the worst and hope for the best.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 04:24 AM (LSDdO)

210 Yeah.  I am not going anywhere.  My opposition to "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" comes from my Conscience screaming "This is WRONG!" 

Last time I checked, I must listen and obey my Conscience.

Posted by: Jimbo at December 11, 2013 04:26 AM (V70Uh)

211 206  Posted by Carol


The Democrats and the MFM have sure anointed her though.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 04:26 AM (T2V/1)

212 Because it was never about health insurance, it's about control. And *that* part is going as planned.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2013 08:19 AM (JRmiD)


I'd say "control" with a not so hidden wealth redistribution element in it to ensure the destruction of the middle class, and yes that is proceeding apace!



The "citizens" will soon be begging for a strong President to step in and solve the healthcare Obamacare crisis with a unified government program with equal treatment for all that prevents the Republicans from denying medical care to the poor.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2013 04:26 AM (o3MSL)

213 6 Yes, Hairy Reid is a crooked asshole. Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2013 06:50 AM (T2V/1) I always liked that about him!

Posted by: Barney Fwank at December 11, 2013 04:27 AM (DrC22)

214 "...in around '83 or so it was like -32 in Chi town and the chill factor was like -64. (windy city and all that you know). I was there. I know." -Bitter Yup. My fam was there. Fourteen fun winters. Hissing radiators mean comfort. Don't have that out here in natural gas land.

Posted by: Clove Candycigars, the mindful webworker at December 11, 2013 04:28 AM (Jh9QN)

215 The sign interpreter at the Mandela memorial service was a fake.
They allowed this guy stand next to all of those foreign leaders just gesticulating gibberish. Unreal.
Tell me again about those top men in the Secret Service?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/k6jm8jm

Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2013 04:28 AM (JRmiD)

216 @207 SMFH I feel for you. My sister told me after watching the election results last year, she climbed into bed and cried. Not for herself, but her children who will be paying for this insanity their whole lives. All you can do is arm your loved ones with the word of G-d, learn, stock pile and wait. This won't go on forever. The young are getting a nasty taste of socialism now and they will not forget it in the future.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 11, 2013 04:28 AM (xMZ57)

217 214  Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2013 08:26 AM (o3MSL)

Or as Colon Powell (link above) said "single payer".



Which has been the target all along.  Nationalize the Health Care industry.  Hell, Venezuela is a bunch of pikers. They will nationalize an industry larger that than the total GDP of South America.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 04:29 AM (T2V/1)

218 MPPP-Your comments sound fine. :^) I don't actually have an advice. This is what Scripture says: "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it." I find debates about the role of Peter and the "true" church unproductive because people get angry and it sounds like an unfortunate rerun of the Reformation. I try to stay out of those discussions here . For Christian Jesus Christ is THE Rock. Do I think Christ wants unity? Yes. I think unity is achieved when we realize all Christians are our brothers and sisters in Christ and when put focus on Jesus and the the new covenant in His blood. It's when we proclaim a suffering Messiah who died and rose again and lives in the Holy Spirit so that our lives might be transformed in love. This is much preferable than when we go on and on about how are particular church is the best. I can understand that people believe their church is the best, but it doesn't make for unity and I think that division is of the flesh and the devil. The faithful believers in Christ-the church-will not be prevailed against ultimately. That mystic church will always last. Will it be it be persecuted and attacked? Undeniably.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 04:29 AM (BC6cY)

219 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 08:22 AM (olDqf)

Still have seen no list of attendees. From what I've heard, I think they are trying to keep it somewhat low-key.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 11, 2013 04:30 AM (gHDMy)

220 We can't run a "real conservative" because Akin. As for the alleged Ryan "sellout", if Castle had won in 2010 this wouldn't be happening, teatards . Uh, I mean, fellow conservatives!

Posted by: Rino Fucktard at December 11, 2013 04:30 AM (JXtHh)

221 does this page make my post look fat?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 11, 2013 04:31 AM (7ObY1)

222 New poll (PDF): most (54%) say Obamacare is having a negative impact on the countryÂ’s health care system.

--

I could be wrong, but isn't this just about the same % of people who have been against Obamacare before/during and after the law passed?  I would've expected this to be much higher by now. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 11, 2013 04:32 AM (XB5Ak)

223 >>Americans are a shallow people and we don't vote for ugly, She would be 70 when she was sworn in and she looks like hell right now, just sayin....

True.
What I fear is the power of the public school and media brain-washing. They've been singing Hillary's praises since 1992 - that's 20 years of people being told what a smart and ground-breaking woman she is. Depending on who she runs against, the LIVs might just shrug and say, "It's time for a woman."
Which is exactly why Hillary's first unofficial 2016 campaign efforts centered on being ready for a woman - remember those "Obey"-like Hillary face t-shirts with the word "Ready"?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2013 04:33 AM (JRmiD)

224 Americans are a shallow people and we don't vote for ugly, She would be 70 when she was sworn in and she looks like hell right now, just sayin.... Posted by: Registered voter at December 11, 2013 08:23 AM (nUbHY) I think she will stroke out before then. Chelsea better pop one out, soon. I don't think her marriage is going to last long, either.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 04:33 AM (h4eud)

225 Capt. Hate, When I say GOP I'm talking about the big wigs in the party who make the rules and give the support and money, not the rank and file.  As soon as Iowa and NH vote seems like only the frontrunner has a chance.  The GOP gives the guy they want the upper hand while many of the rank and file are months away from voting.  So unless you are one of those big wigs I was not slamming you, if you are, then I was.

Posted by: Case at December 11, 2013 04:34 AM (jhRZ+)

226 Can I correct the Christine bull? The GOP establishment wants Christie, just like they wanted McCain & Romney & what good did that do for us? Nothing! GOP Establishment can jump off a bridge. I got a call asking for $275 from RNC Saturday. I told him off. I forgot to post it here until after I posted on the ONT that I was going to sleep. I turned this back on to post it. I posted it @ 3:05 am Sunday morning. My brother is still in the hospital with breathing problems. TheyÂ’ve done tests and today they are going to look at his lungs with a camera. He didnÂ’t go to the hospital Friday morning with pneumonia but has gotten it since heÂ’s been in the hospital. The only reason I answered the phone Saturday with the unknown caller is that is how it shows even though I have my brotherÂ’s number in at the rehab and current hospital number programmed. GOP got his butt kicked by me.

Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2013 04:35 AM (z4WKX)

227 Thanks y'all. Just having a bit of an old-fashioned rage/pity party. A trip to the range later should help immensely.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 11, 2013 04:37 AM (h+C/x)

228 Carol, I'm not a doctor but I have heard of walking pneumonia so it might be that your brother had something similar.

That said, hospitals are not good places to be as you can acquire stuff you didn't have when you came in. I know personally this is true.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 04:38 AM (LSDdO)

229 @226 Dr. Jesse Pinkman "Chelsea better pop one out, soon. I don't think her marriage is going to last long, either." Chelsea has such a promising career in media-- she should stick with it. /sarc Hitlery also has alot of baggage under the rug which will seep out into the lime light before the general election.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 11, 2013 04:39 AM (xMZ57)

230 Grayson either violated margin restrictions or, by transferring the risk of loss on his stock positions that had tax gains embedded, failed to make capital gains tax payments when due. Those might sound like technical violations but as Al Capone learned, tax violations can send you to jail. Investigate his ass!

Posted by: MTF at December 11, 2013 04:39 AM (qCtp4)

231 The "negative impact on healthcare" number will skyrocket come January. Zerocare isn't in full effect yet.

Posted by: Libtardo at December 11, 2013 04:39 AM (WxJTH)

232 74 This is the time of year for nostalgia and reflection on days gone by, so anybody else long for the days when we were not a Banana Republic run by a dictator and his ugly, angry wife? A dictator who is so inept that were this a movie, it would be a farce. - Forget it, Jake. It's Obamacare.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 11, 2013 04:39 AM (ee9LE)

233 One more thing and then I'll shut up-about that anyway. The brothers and sisters in Christ who are suffering dying every day in the Mideast because of their faith are IMO, just as much of the "true Church" (and I don't think all of them are RC) as people who lovingly champion the RCC. Pastor Adedini in Iran is an evangelical Christian. He is being tortured . He\ writes letters that sound much like those of Paul from Prison. I pray that he is released, but I don't believe he will be rejected because of his not being RC. Jesus is going to reject someone who loves him so much?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 04:40 AM (BC6cY)

234 Chelsea has such a promising career in media-- she should stick with it.
/sarc
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 11, 2013 08:39 AM (xMZ57)

Why sarc? She's doing better than some who're getting paid big bucks. (not that that means they're worth a tinker's fart)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 04:41 AM (LSDdO)

235

Good morning, all!   What fresh Hell greets us this morning as it slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?

 

So I scored an 8 on that color/hue test from last night's ONT.  I have no idea how good or bad that is.  But it was fun!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 11, 2013 04:41 AM (4df7R)

236 Oh, for Pete's sake:

"Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell defended himself Tuesday against a narrative that says he is opposed to the tea party movement.

“I’m a big fan of the tea party movement,” McConnell told Fox News’s Neil Cavuto, when asked about his criticism of the Senate Conservatives Fund, a tea party group which is backing a Republican primary challenge against him in Kentucky. “I think it’s been extremely important in helping us regain the House and do well in the Senate in 2010. There is one particular organization that I was talking about, which I think has been counterproductive.”

Oh sure, I'm convinced, Mitch. All of that recent talk about Tea Party bullies needing a punch in the nose was just playful teasing, right?


Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2013 04:42 AM (JRmiD)

237 They don't even try to hide that they're lying anymore.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 04:43 AM (LSDdO)

238


“I’m a big fan of the tea party movement,” McConnell told Fox News’s
Neil Cavuto, when asked about his criticism of the Senate Conservatives
Fund, a tea party group which is backing a Republican primary challenge
against him in Kentucky. “I think it’s been extremely important in
helping us regain the House and do well in the Senate in 2010. There is
one particular organization that I was talking about, which I think has
been counterproductive.”

---------------

 

Shorter:  "I'm happy for those Teabaggers to vote for the GOP, as long as I don't actually have to cater to them."

Posted by: @JohnTant at December 11, 2013 04:43 AM (PFy0L)

239

>>The "negative impact on healthcare" number will skyrocket come January. Zerocare isn't in full effect yet.

.

.

.It will really hit when people are still paying out of pocket for their shiny new Health Insurance through the end of next summer.  Right before the election and they will remember that.

Posted by: Registered voter at December 11, 2013 04:44 AM (nUbHY)

240 @229 SMFH "A trip to the range later should help immensely." Indeed. I like your prescription for curing the blues.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 11, 2013 04:44 AM (xMZ57)

241 So the GOP is going after the FSA zombie vote in Detroit... I'm sure that will work out gangbusters.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 11, 2013 04:44 AM (h+C/x)

242 Hitlery also has a lot of baggage under the rug which will seep out into the lime light before the general election.


Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 11, 2013 08:39 AM (xMZ57)


I fear your naivete is showing.  What ever seeps out (and there is plenty there to seep) will be overshadowed  by a triumphal chorus from the media about the Nation's need for a seasoned accomplished leader like Shrillary.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2013 04:45 AM (o3MSL)

243 Clowns
Cars
Duh!1
Duh Moocher
All of DC
All the "watchdog press...."
Some ass'y required.
Idjits, all....

Posted by: backhoe at December 11, 2013 04:47 AM (ULH4o)

244 Of course, he won't Fenelon, take your pick, Roman, Joel, Acts, it's not about the denomination, it's about the faith therein

Posted by: jeff pelt at December 11, 2013 04:47 AM (8sqvd)

245

So - oldest son is at the age where he is getting into riflecraft.  He has a bb gun (sorry, Krispy Kreme, but we live like Americans out here) and we're getting serious about shooting. 

 

Thing is, he's left handed and I'm a righty.  As such I'm having trouble teaching him proper technique, and he has trouble shooting right handed. 


Any Moron advice?  He's pretty good left-handed but he could improve with better technique.  OTOH he struggles right-handed, however is it something he could improve if he works on it more?

Posted by: @JohnTant at December 11, 2013 04:48 AM (PFy0L)

246 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 08:38 AM (LSDdO) Thanks Bitter Clinger, but my brother has almost died several times from strep infections that started on March 30. HeÂ’s a quadriplegic because of the infection now. I wonÂ’t bore you with it but quite a few here know that heÂ’s been very sick. HeÂ’ll never be normal again & will have to spend the rest of his life in a nursing home.

Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2013 04:48 AM (z4WKX)

247 Fenelon, I'm a Calvinist Presbyterian by flavor, but for my part I don't much care about denominational differences. I'm a Christian, not a particularly good one. Example - the Bible says to submit to our rulers, but I sure as hell will not submit to Obama and the Democrats. So much of what they do is plain evil. Liberal Christianity is part of our problem, and in most cases I don't call them brothers in Christ. Screw them, they are beyond the pale. We have to fight evil, and sometimes that means right here right now.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 04:48 AM (YEQ2h)

248 It's been more than three days. Shouldn't Mandela have arisen by now?

Posted by: --- at December 11, 2013 04:49 AM (MMC8r)

249

Hitlery also has alot of baggage under the rug which will seep out into the lime light before the general election.

 

Ha, ha!  Not if we can help it, rube!

 

-  your loyal MFM

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2013 04:49 AM (zF6Iw)

250 Posted by: @JohnTant at December 11, 2013 08:43 AM (PFy0L)

I'm all in favor of Teabaggers that toe the RINO establishment line.  It's those pesky ones with principles, integrity and an understanding of the Constitution that I have a problem with, especially when they speak out in public and disrupt my sweet low maintenance Senate job.

Posted by: "Bitch" McConnell at December 11, 2013 04:50 AM (o3MSL)

251 Did anyone see any Obama selfie mentions last night in the MSM? Jon Stewart, Leno, anywhere? It's a great story for making fun of his narcissism and his lightweight presence everywhere he goes.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 11, 2013 04:50 AM (ZshNr)

252 @236 Bitter Clinger "She's doing better than some who're getting paid big bucks. (not that that means they're worth a tinker's fart)" You mean nepotism had nothing to do with it? Between her rug munching mom and philandering father, she should sit tight and stay out of the public sphere. She will inherit enough money soon enough.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 11, 2013 04:50 AM (xMZ57)

253 Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2013 07:56 AM (z4WKX)

Ditto to your whole post

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 11, 2013 04:51 AM (KL49F)

254 “I’m a big fan of the tea party movement (about as much as I am of Cancer and strangulated hemorrhoids),” McConnell told Fox News’s Neil Cavuto, when asked about his criticism of the Senate Conservatives Fund, a tea party group which is backing a Republican primary challenge against him in Kentucky. “I think it’s been extremely important in helping us (screw over conservatives) regain the House (so the weeper can keep sending ridiculous spending bills up here)and do well in the Senate in 2010 (keeping my turtle faced ass in the leadership position which is all I give a f*ck about). There is one particular organization that I was talking about, which I think has been counterproductive (that mean they're trying to run and actual conservative against me and I plan to use every dirty trick and political favor I can call in to screw them regardless of the impact on the overall election).”

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 04:51 AM (LSDdO)

255 I fear your naivete is showing. What ever seeps out (and there is plenty there to seep) will be overshadowed by a triumphal chorus from the media about the Nation's need for a seasoned accomplished leader like Shrillary. Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2013 08:45 AM (o3MSL) Sadly, I agree. And add in the full-on MFM hatefest for the GOP nominee. After racist rocks, Fido on the roof and binders full of women, nothing is off the table for the American Pravda.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 11, 2013 04:52 AM (7ObY1)

256 Did anyone see any Obama selfie mentions last night in the MSM? Jon Stewart, Leno, anywhere? It's a great story for making fun of his narcissism and his lightweight presence everywhere he goes.

 

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 11, 2013 08:50 AM (ZshNr)

 

Not me, but I'm in bed by then.  But it seems that, according to a post somewhere above, the MFM narrative is, "so what?  Bush had his picture taken, too, teabag racists!"

 

I'm at the point now where any conservative who doesn't end his speeches by calling for the MFM to be tarred and feathered is a damned dirty RINO.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2013 04:52 AM (zF6Iw)

257 Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 11, 2013 08:50 AM (xMZ57)

Oh not. nepotism is the only reason she got there but there's some people who got there who can't even do as well as she is.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 11, 2013 04:53 AM (LSDdO)

258 Carol, I'm truly sorry for your troubles. I'm glad you're here. I know the Horde carries me some days.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 04:53 AM (YEQ2h)

259

If this is true, then fuck the PoPo.    Killing dogs has become indiscriminate it seems, and then to kill a sweet little parakeet...  

 

I would NOT be responsible for my actions.

 

 

NYPD Beat Family and Killed Pet Parakeet in Own Home, Lawsuit Says

DNAInfo New York: http://tinyurl.com/numlfhk

 


ST. GEORGE — A Staten Island woman has sued the city claiming police entered her St. George home without a warrant, beat her family and killed her beloved pet parakeet, according to court documents.

 

 

Last year, Evelyn Lugo's bird, Tito, was thrown from his cage after it was knocked off a dresser as cops came into her Corson Avenue home, the Daily News first reported.

 

 

The officers then stepped on the bird intentionally, killing it, court documents say.

 

 

Officers also beat two of Lugo's sons, her daughter and a family friend, the lawsuit claims.

 

 

According to court documents, police entered Lugo's home on Sept. 2, 2012, as her family was celebrating Labor Day.

 

 

Police stopped and questioned her son Edwin Avellanet as he was outside throwing out garbage and asked for identification, the lawsuit says. When he refused to show any, officers allegedly grabbed his right arm and Avellanet broke free and ran into the building.

 

 

Officers broke windows of the home, and when Lugo opened the front door she was thrown outside by police, court papers say...

 

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 11, 2013 04:54 AM (4df7R)

260 232 Grayson either violated margin restrictions or, by transferring the risk of loss on his stock positions that had tax gains embedded, failed to make capital gains tax payments when due. Those might sound like technical violations but as Al Capone learned, tax violations can send you to jail. Investigate his ass! Posted by: MTF at December 11, 2013 08:39 AM (qCtp4) Holder and the IRS will get right on itÂ… ...and stuff it down Sandy Burger's pants.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2013 04:54 AM (olDqf)

261 I'm in bed then, too. Maybe SNL will give it a whirl. Selfies at a funeral is just too rich to pass up, especially with the mental cat fight going on around him.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 11, 2013 04:54 AM (ZshNr)

262 McConnell "loves" us when he's not threatening to "punch" us "in the nose"... with fans like these, who needs enemies?

McConnell needs to be defeated. I'm pulling for Matt Bevin to pull off a primary victory.

Speaking of RINOs who need to be defeated: Rep. Steve Stockman announced he's challenging Cornyn! Woohoo! Cornyn voted for cloture for Ocare (which was a vote for Ocare itself as we all know), supports amnesty, AND he teamed up with McConnell in Sept. to block Cruz. Texas deserves so much better and Stockman is a great conservative.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 11, 2013 04:54 AM (KL49F)

263 @244 Hrothgar Her time was 2008 and she blew it. If she couldn't beat a nobody like JEF, what makes you think she will be ramped up to fight in 2016? And as others have mentioned, she is going down hill health wise and there are 3 more miserable years to go.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 11, 2013 04:54 AM (xMZ57)

264

>>Any Moron advice? He's pretty good left-handed but he could improve with better technique. OTOH he struggles right-handed, however is it something he could improve if he works on it more?

.

.

.Do not force him to shoot right handed.  I am a lefty and have been forced to do almost everything  right handed during my 57 years and it sucks big time.  I recommend you let him try to improve on his own and in the meantime try to find a lefty shooter to help him along. 

Posted by: Registered voter at December 11, 2013 04:55 AM (nUbHY)

265 There is no health care system, only Zuul!

Posted by: Dana Barrett at December 11, 2013 04:55 AM (RFeQD)

266 We have nothing to fear with the MFM as Present in the White House.

Posted by: John McCain (I'm getting older and stupider) at December 11, 2013 04:55 AM (LSDdO)

267 most (54%) say Obamacare is having a negative impact on the countryÂ’s health care system.





Only 54%? The stupid must be strong with those who don't

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2013 04:55 AM (1Jaio)

268 Posted by: Lincolntf at December 11, 2013 08:50 AM (ZshNr)

I saw the Obama selfie pic and thought so this is what the Founders fought and bled to accomplish--the elevation of an immature mediocre AA hire with no real accomplishments to the Presidency of these United States.


I no longer have the energy to weep for my country.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2013 04:55 AM (o3MSL)

269 The organization that buries unclaimed vets has a website: http://www.miap.us/



Looks like a pretty good organization, I'll send them a few bucks.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 11, 2013 04:56 AM (yh0zB)

270 He's pretty good left-handed but he could improve with better technique. OTOH he struggles right-handed, however is it something he could improve if he works on it more? I don't know if it works the same with rifles, but when I was teaching my wife how to throw darts, I threw left handed. It taught me how to pay attention to what I was doing. Since your son is younger, he will learn better by imitation. So maybe try shooting left handed, so he can see the proper form. You know the form, and will be able to translate it to the opposite side. He will be able to imitate you better, and will have better form. That will make getting better a lot easier. He will have a better base to work from. Of course, that's just my opinion, and I could be wrong. Now who wants pie?

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 11, 2013 04:56 AM (i2Lsf)

271 Sign language interpreter at Nelson Mandela's memorial 'was a fake who made up his own hand gestures'




The whole damn thing is full of fakes and phonies, so this guy should fit right in

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2013 04:56 AM (1Jaio)

272 The funniest part of Obama's "selfie" was that  jealous glare Michelle gave the Dutch PM... and then she made Barry switch seats so he wouldn't be next to said blonde anymore. LOL!!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 11, 2013 04:57 AM (KL49F)

273 Re - shooting advice. Immediately check which eye is dominant. This is often ambiguous. Whatever eye is dominant, shoot that way. I.e. Left eye dominant, shoot leftie, and so forth.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 04:58 AM (YEQ2h)

274 fresh post

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 11, 2013 04:58 AM (UVadJ)

275 I see that quite a few of the media, at least on Fox have lost their health insurance. They admit it. IÂ’m sure that the other MFM jerks have lost theirs too & itÂ’s going to hurt them financially when their policies are canceled because they donÂ’t have maternity & other junk they donÂ’t need. They may have been in love with the SCOAMF but I believe the root of most evils are money and/or religious extremists. All those so-called journalists have got to be burned by TFGcare!

Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2013 04:59 AM (z4WKX)

276 Just heard an ad for The Villages. Do they only start to advertise after the first snowfall in the Northeast?

Posted by: Fox2! at December 11, 2013 04:59 AM (XFTOV)

277

I shouldn't laugh at this, and yet   I do.   It just fits so perfectly with the rest of the farce that was Mandela's memorial service yesterday.  

 

Police: Archbishop Desmond Tutu's home robbed same day he attended memorial for Nelson Mandela

 

The Republic (Columbus, OH): http://tinyurl.com/n6v7fgz

 

 

JOHANNESBURG — Police in South Africa say retired Archbishop Desmond Tutu's home was robbed while he was away to attend a memorial honoring Nelson Mandela...

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 11, 2013 05:00 AM (4df7R)

278 Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 11, 2013 08:54 AM (xMZ57)

The very existence of the Obama presidency is proof that a government can be run (not necessarily well or legally) with "handlers" doing all the real work.  So long as Hillary is not on a breathing tube 24/7, she will do just fine as a Potemkin President.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2013 05:00 AM (o3MSL)

279 "Will it be it be persecuted and attacked?"

And this is where we will cease being Lutheran or Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox or Presbyterian or broad American evangelical.

The true church, not hemmed in by denominations, will stand in the face of persecution.

Posted by: Lizabth at December 11, 2013 05:00 AM (JZBti)

280 Obama will not be able to get anything done as a duck for 2 years.

--

All he really needs to cement our total transformation is to get amnesty.  And, apparently the stupid, stupid GOP is ready to hand it to him on a silver platter.  It is the death knell for America.  And it's likely coming. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 11, 2013 05:00 AM (XB5Ak)

281 IÂ’m glad new post is up. IÂ’m going to get ready to go to work. I wish I could stay home all winter.

Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2013 05:00 AM (z4WKX)

282 Tubal, There seems to be debate in theological circles about how much we are to submit to the Government You might appreciate the POV of this gentleman: http://www.creationliberty.com/articles/romans13.php Scripture says we are supposed to pray for our leaders (and not the "God smite them now with a heavy hand and send them to hell) "types of prayers ;^) so that we might live in peace. So I pray for the conversion of the people in Government who profess Christianity to a real belief in Jesus Christ, that they are healed and filled with the Holy Spirit and exhibit the Fruit of the Spirit. Would Obama do what he's doing if he were exhibiting the Fruit of the Spirit? No. I'm not sure what you mean by fighting? Protesting injustices or hand to hand combat? For me, my true citizenship is in heaven. I love the U.S. but it is not the Kingdom of God and never will be. I hope that if I can called to give up my life for my faith I can do that. As far as the use of carnal weapons I leave that to the conscience of the individual.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 05:01 AM (BC6cY)

283 Posted by: Lizabth at December 11, 2013 09:00 AM (JZBti) Very true Lizzy. When Christians are attacked. the state will go against all of them. It won't matter what your denomination is. If you aren't part of the church of the state they will bring power against people. Deitrich Bonhoeffer was weal aware of this

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 05:04 AM (BC6cY)

284 @247 Southpaws are weirdos. I'm left handed but there are a few things-shooting, guitar-that I can't even comprehend trying to do left handed. Initially, it never even occurred to me try them left handed. Guitar especially feels like I'm trying to remotely control another persons body.

Posted by: Chico Esquela at December 11, 2013 05:04 AM (PuX55)

285 >>You mean nepotism had nothing to do with it? Between her rug munching mom and philandering father, she should sit tight and stay out of the public sphere. She will inherit enough money soon enough.

Au contraire! Chelsea has recently felt the call of public service and decided to get more involved. She's now working for the Clinton Global Initiative. Get the feeling they're grooming her. Lord, save us!

Oh, and did you see that she sat in the front row at the Mandela memorial while Jimmy Carter was relegated to a seat rows behind her?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/kobh2km

Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2013 05:05 AM (JRmiD)

286 250 It's been more than three days. Shouldn't Mandela have arisen by now? Posted by: --- at December 11, 2013 08:49 AM (MMC8r) Maybe they plan to do him Lenin style! http://goo.gl/PHFWbB Lenin never really recovered after he was shot in 1918. He was gaunt and frail. Yet, after the embalming, he's a little fatty.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 05:05 AM (h4eud)

287 @280 Hrothgar JEF is proof a goat can be elected POTUS. The handlers behind the curtain do what they want. I almost have a sense of pity for JEF-- he is a fool and everyone knows it, but he is caged in the post he has. No one meaningful respects him. He is a laughing stock and there is nothing he can do about it.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 11, 2013 05:06 AM (xMZ57)

288 Thanks for the response Fenelon. I was thinking of history and how much fighting on earth that was necessary to preserve the faith. I know that we are agents of God, and sometimes instruments. I have a sneaking suspicion I am more of an instrument, but if that is what it is, so be it. I want God's will, regardless.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 05:06 AM (YEQ2h)

289 new one

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 05:07 AM (T2V/1)

290 Au contraire! Chelsea has recently felt the call of public service and decided to get more involved. She's now working for the Clinton Global Initiative. Get the feeling they're grooming her. Lord, save us! Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2013 09:05 AM (JRmiD) A couple of months ago there was a scathing attack by lefty organizations on the so called Clinton Family Foundation. Since then nothing... Apparently, they spend donations like crazy and do almost nothing. Money has disappeared.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 05:09 AM (h4eud)

291 @287 Lizzy "She's now working for the Clinton Global Initiative." She is collecting a hefty check while sitting on the Board while mom and dad get a tax write off. Not real work in any sense.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 11, 2013 05:09 AM (xMZ57)

292 Thanks, folks!  He's right eye dominant and left handed, which really sucks for him. 

Posted by: @JohnTant at December 11, 2013 05:10 AM (PFy0L)

293 Today's assignment class:  Compare and contrast Dietrich Bonhoeffer with Betsy Ten Boom.


Posted by: Jimbo at December 11, 2013 05:10 AM (V70Uh)

294 >>She is collecting a hefty check while sitting on the Board while mom and dad get a tax write off. Not real work in any sense.

Yep. But no doubt she'll start collecting awards and honors just like her mom, networking with her daddy's friends and donors, etc...

Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2013 05:11 AM (JRmiD)

295 295 Today's assignment class: Compare and contrast Dietrich Bonhoeffer with Betsy Ten Boom. LOL!!!!

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2013 05:12 AM (YEQ2h)

296 She will just be another illegal conduuit for campaign contributions from fat cats.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 05:12 AM (T2V/1)

297 A couple of months ago there was a scathing attack by lefty organizations on the so called Clinton Family Foundation. Since then nothing...

Apparently, they spend donations like crazy and do almost nothing. Money has disappeared.

--

Let us imagine, shall we, if this had been Romney and family. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 11, 2013 05:13 AM (XB5Ak)

298 And the best weapon, IMO, in the battle against powers and principalities is to put on the Full armor of God in a deliberate way every day. I mean that figuratively, not dressing up in Roman military gear. :^) I mean thinking, "I am not putting on the breastplate" (God's approval because he sent his son to die for us) I am now putting the sword (the spirit) the word of God, etc and PRAY. Peace be with you, brother.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 05:14 AM (BC6cY)

299 @ Lizzy Me thinks she stuck her toe in the water and came up cold. Clintons have made a lot of enemies. @298 Vic Bingo.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 11, 2013 05:15 AM (xMZ57)

300 Arrrrrgh Meant "I am NOW putting on...." Darn typos.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 05:15 AM (BC6cY)

301 And to submit oneself to God daily.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 05:17 AM (BC6cY)

302 Posted by: Jimbo at December 11, 2013 09:10 AM (V70Uh) LOL. i doubt they're giving that exam at Dartmouth. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 05:18 AM (BC6cY)

303 Both very admirable Christians, IMO.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2013 05:19 AM (BC6cY)

304 296 >>She is collecting a hefty check while sitting on the Board while mom and dad get a tax write off. Not real work in any sense. Yep. But no doubt she'll start collecting awards and honors just like her mom, networking with her daddy's friends and donors, etc... Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2013 09:11 AM (JRmiD) She already has. Her and both her parents get appointed to sit on the boards of corporations where they get paid handsomely for doing nothing. Hillary was on the board of directors of Walmart for years while her cronies attacked it. It's a scam and just another way of funneling money to leftys.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 05:36 AM (h4eud)

305 Thanks, folks! He's right eye dominant and left handed, which really sucks for him.

Then he has to shoot righty.  The mechanics can be learned, seeing straight out of the 'wrong' eye cannot.

Posted by: toby928© powernaps at December 11, 2013 05:38 AM (evdj2)

306 It's a scam and just another way of funneling money bribes to lefty po;iticians.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 11, 2013 09:36 AM (h4eud)



FTFY

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 05:43 AM (T2V/1)

307 shit

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 05:44 AM (T2V/1)

308 saved by the kill code in name

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 11, 2013 05:44 AM (T2V/1)

309 He's right eye dominant and left handed, which really sucks for him. I'm with toby928 on this one. I was going to ask which eye is dominant and let that inform what you decide. Another thing: If he's really clumsy shooting right-handed, space practice onto different days and don't let him be discouraged by how badly he does at first. There's something about sleeping on new muscle & motor control that smooths them out. I apologize in advance if you already knew this. I've known this almost all of my life, and I was a little surprised to discover peers who were never taught this.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 11, 2013 05:53 AM (V3kRK)

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