118 #89. We have one young guy who is always making snarly remarks about being offended by "religious overtones" in this or that. I just want to say, "We get it already, you are a devout Atheist. Now stop hammering me with Your Religion Of Pointedly Having No Religion."

 

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 26, 2013 08:21 AM (T0vPW)

 

So say it.  Or, to borrow from the Newhart thread, ask him, "if you're so sure there's no God, why do you care whether other people believe in one?"

 

Punch back twice as hard, as a certain dog-eating crackhead once blathered.

119 MPPPP,

I spent a good chunk of 2004 goofing on Kerry with the Thirsty Thurston accent. "Just order the damned chili, Lovey! We have shrimp and champagne in the Airstream...."

120 Punch back twice as hard, as a certain dog-eating crackhead once blathered.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 26, 2013 08:25 AM (zF6Iw)

Amen.

121 I am sick to death of the atheists, homos and other miscreant hyphenated grievance groups. America as founded, established and through its history is a G-d fearing nation. Tolerance is one thing. Acceptance is quite another and trying to destroy the social fabric of society is NOT a civil rights movement. It's retribution. Now fuck off, atheists and the rest and worship your emptiness in the quiet of your momma's basement.

122 BTW, I want it added to the AoS Stylebook that, in addition to "Searchlight Strangler" and "Hairy Reid," the appellation of "Webelo Whisperer" be added to the Senate's less-than-distinguished member.

123 Good morning!  Time to work off the 12,000 carbs and calories consumed yesterday.

124 No snark here Sherry McE.  I have not heard this name in...33+ years.

Admiral Grace Hopper developed the first compiler for computer programs.
Time to look up bio on Wiki (yes, you can flame away!)

125 Yet, the left has rewritten history to make it seem as if they were the victims. It galls me every time I hear "Nazism was a rightwing movement," but almost everyone accepts that uncritically.

126 Morning all. As far as the attacks on Israel are concerned: When the terrorist scum see weakness in Washington DC, all hell breaks loose and that is what we are seeing now.

127 115 Well, we have a republic, not a democracy, despite the progressives best efforts to make it otherwise. Levin's liberty amendments is a good place to start, but I fear even that effort may be too late. Posted by: Anthony L. at December 26, 2013 08:24 AM (34n6F) Agreed, but waiting for a collapse of giving up is not an option. Article V is the only, Constitutional way left available. Must be attempted.

128 So, which is going to "implode" first, Obamacare or our country?

129 "A republic, madam -

if you can keep it"

130 this is a republic and is not a democracy. There is a difference. I have to go eat something. I have been trying to gain weight, I know most are doing the opposite. I hope everyone has a nice day if you have it off or if you have to work. I do not trust the NSA, at least with SCOAMF as CIC. I think he had something on Roberts & has something on Boehner, as I said in an earlier comment, there should be special prosecutors for several of his scandals. Our Embassy in Kabul was attacked yesterday, and IÂ’m sure itÂ’s because they knew nothing would happen because the JEF did nothing about Benghazi! Benghazi wasnÂ’t the embassy, it was something else, but it was attacked and our ambassador & three others were killed and nothing was done except to put a man that made a video in jail for doing something against his parole rules!

131 >>Obama's shadow war on Christianity continues apace. Shadow? Ha! http://tinyurl.com/mthobev >>Sheriff Whittington received notice from the DOJ requesting that Whittington sign a letter agreeing to remove God and the voluntary prayer from the program, or forego the $15,000 in federal funding for that program, as well as another $15,000 for the Bossier Youth Diversion program. Of course, since then: >>The community refused to give in and give up on this program, so it rallied behind it's [sic] "Young Marines" and donated triple the amount of the loss of federal funds

132 We never did get to the bottom of that WmF Buckley accent, did we? Hmm .... does he call it a water fountain or a bubbler?

133 #118. He's sort of a good kid. He's from Utah, so I suspect he is recovering from the more fervent and outre aspects of some sects of hyper-Mormonism. Time will deal with him. I just say a prayer for him and go on. Additionally, I have zero desire to deal with HR and re-education. My temper would fail me and it would not be pretty.

134

Since it's a slow morning, here's a story off the top of my head:

 

When John Wayne was asked to speak at Harvard, one of the snotty students asked him, "Do you see yourself as some avatar of American values?"

 

Wayne replied, "Well, not being  a Harvard man, I don't look at myself any more often than necessary."

 

OK, so it's not much of a story.  Here's a picture - Ann-Margret is lonely:

 

http://tinyurl.com/mf5cvyu

 

135 While Roberts' sudden reversal is suspicious, Boehner and the rest of the GOP are part of the Leviathan. I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but SCOAMF doesn't need the NSA to dig for dirt on people (see his first campaign for IL. state senate).

136 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

137 128 So, which is going to "implode" first, Obamacare or our country? I'm going with Obamacare. A report I read last night seems telling to me. Everyone agreed that New Mexico had one of the best-functioning ACA exchange sites. 291 people obtained coverage by the absolutely firm deadline. Essentially no one wants this shit.

138 Happy Boxing Day Whatever that is.

139 Yes, JJ, I agree about Article 5. Tempting as it is, I have never been fully in the LIB camp. Deep down, I know that we must use all legal avenues provided to us by the founders within the framework of the Constitution.

I pray it works.

140 I love being one of the only people at work.

This morning, one of our contractors came into my office and commented on the fact that I'm wearing jeans on a Thursday.

"It's the day after Christmas, and I knew nobody would be here.  You're lucky I'm even wearing pants."

141 It galls me every time I hear "Nazism was a rightwing movement," but almost everyone accepts that uncritically. Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 26, 2013 08:28 AM (JQuNB) They like to call themselves premature antifascists. After the Molotov Ribbontrop pact they were pro fascists. That loud mouth trade unionist, Harry Bridges, shilled like crazy for stalin and then for nazi germany. Now there is evidence that he was a soviet spy. As a member of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade, I have to wonder how many of his fellow Americans he shot because they realized they had been tricked and just wanted to go home. Yet Bridges is honored all over in California.

142 I'm going with Obamacare. A report I read last night seems telling to me. Everyone agreed that New Mexico had one of the best-functioning ACA exchange sites. My wife and I were talking about this yesterday. I would not be surprised to start hearing Democrat calls for repeal by June. That's not a prediction- I just wouldn't be surprised.

143 I wear mens sweatshirts & sherpa lined mock necks in my house. They are much warmer than womenÂ’s. I know a menÂ’s small fits me. A womenÂ’s small is sometimes too tight & I donÂ’t even weigh 100 pounds. IÂ’m trying to get up to 100 pounds. Four more to go.

144 Magnitude 22 earthquake hits Montana!  Posted on December 26, 2013 by Art Stone   

While I was enjoying Christmas at my nieceÂ’s house, I noticed that my phone alerted me at 9:55 am (ET) that a magnitude 22 earthquake had hit in Montana at 10:50:39 (ET) on the 24th near Polson Montana

http://preview.tinyurl.com/m3y9qwn

145 So, what happens when Obamacare "implodes?" It's still the law of the land (risible, considering SCOAMF's imperial decrees every few days), and the market that was there before 3/10/10 is in ruins. I don't see Preezy Schickelgruber admitting that this law -and his entire political wold view - are a mistake and suddenly embracing Milton Friedman style reforms.

146 The 61st annual reenactment of Washington's crossing of the Delaware River "America: We will kill you in your sleep on Christmas."

147 Happy Boxing Day

Whatever that is.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 08:37 AM (PYAXX)

 

There's a Sandy Fluke joke in there somewhere, but I'm too lazy to make it.

148 144 Magnitude 22 earthquake hits Montana! Posted on December 26, 2013 by Art Stone While I was enjoying Christmas at my nieceÂ’s house, I noticed that my phone alerted me at 9:55 am (ET) that a magnitude 22 earthquake had hit in Montana at 10:50:39 (ET) on the 24th near Polson Montana http://preview.tinyurl.com/m3y9qwn Posted by: Baldy at December 26, 2013 08:39 AM (2bql3) Magnitude 22????? That's like "Space 1999" scale.

149 Carol, why are you so thin? Have you been ill? If so, I will pray for your continued recovery.

150 Somebody forgot a decimal point! But why sent out an alert for a 2.2 EQ?

151 @148 I would expect Pangaea to be reformed after a magnitude 22.

152 So, what happens when Obamacare "implodes?" A good question. My real (and rather cynical) prediction is single payer (I'll explain why in a minute). The other option, of course, is repeal (which would have to be lead by Democrats) and a return to the old market- which would take some time, but not terribly much, really. Now, I wouldn't be surprised by repeal, but then I think Dems would move to implement single payer, and here's why. 1) That was the point of ObamaCare in the first place. 2) It's what they really want anyway. 3) They are not shy about using media coverage and "get in their faces" tactics to make it seem like their minority is really a majority- which means they can sway public opinion. 4) Republicans haven't really fought any expansion of the State in a couple generations, and current leadership makes me rather pessimistic that they'd suddenly start.

153 9 Glenn Greenwald never met a terrorist he didn't like. http://tinyurl.com/p8g9wdd Posted by: Vic at December 26, 2013 06:57 AM (T2V/1) ========================== Dershowitz is slowly becoming a righty, I think, or at least a Scoop Jackson Democrat (which makes him a raging right winger in these times). I'd love to hear his reaction to the Iran "deal" President ESPN keeps begging the mullahs for.

154 2 Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday, December 26, 2013. Today is the first day of the BS made up holiday, Kwanza which was created out of thin air by a criminal psychotic who tortured one of his girl friends because he thought she was ratting him out to the cops and was trying to poison him. None of the blacks that I worked with before I retired celebrated this phony holiday.

Posted by: Vic at December 26, 2013 06:55 AM (T2V/1)

Yep! I don't know anyone who celebrates it.

To be fair, Christmas is also a bogus holiday, made up by Constantine. Everything about it is pagan except for the name of Jesus, who was probably born in September of 2 B.C.

155 Kwanzaa gets mentions to make white liberals feel good about themselves.

156 Once more unto the breach... Concerning the topic of representative's pay, people are slowly coming around to the realization that the system is rigged right now to discourage average people from seeking office in favor of millionaires. Punative plans that would cut elected official's pay to a dollar only enhance the private club atmosphere in congress, as those with the money couldn't care less about the small salary. If any progress is going to be made, we need to get over the paycheck envy and make a compensation package that will attract a wide variety of competent people and give them a serious incentive to make hard choices. On a per-person basis, congressmen are responsible of spending hundreds of billions each year, so I have no problem justifying a base salary of 500K with a matching bonus if congress passes a budget on time that limits spending to 18% of GDP. I would even toss in private jet travel and a housing allowance just for good measure. When private industry has trouble attracting the right quality candidates for jobs, they try to set a level of pay and perks that will get the job done. It's time we trust in the market and stop relying on bargain-basement legislators to straighten things out.

157 Barry wasn't rich before being chosen, he was very well connected. Strange how communists have such big bucks.

158 EB has gone downhill in the past few years, along with so many other clothes stores, Ann Taylor has too.

--

This is so true.  Even the higher end clothing lines have considerably cheapened their clothing.  So many things have become practically disposable.  Where 'em a time or two and they start falling apart.  Material is so thin on sweaters and tops, it doesn't hold up to one wash.  It's infuriating.

Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.  I'm still surrounded by a living room floor full of presents I have to find places for today.  Spent all day cooking yesterday and the food was fantastic, starting with my homemade yeast cinnamon rolls in the morning.  Need to pull 'em out of the fridge and reheat the leftovers right about now. 

Mr. Black is finally recovered from his horrific bout of vomiting and diarrhea.  I thought he had food poisoning, but we heard a local report from the health department yesterday that the Asheville and surrounding areas are experiencing an outbreat of "norovirus," so now I'm thinking that's what he had.  There's a nasty, nasty case of stomach flu out there, so be sure to wash your hands.

159 You aren't going to reform Congress with a payscale. The honeypot for being in government is the power, not the money. Decrease the power. If you want cleaner, less corrupt government, make it smaller.

160 156>> "When private industry has trouble attracting the right quality candidates for jobs, they try to set a level of pay and perks that will get the job done." When private industry has trouble with employees that abuse their position and take advantage of company resources and privileges to advance their own positions (monetarily and politically), private industry shit cans them and typically demands some form of restitution.

161

Punative plans that would cut elected official's pay to a dollar only enhance the private club atmosphere in congress, as those with the money couldn't care less about the small salary. If any progress is going to be made, we need to get over the paycheck envy and make a compensation package that will attract a wide variety of competent people and give them a serious incentive to make hard choices.

 

"Paycheck envy,"   my  fat ass.  Sheila Jackson "where's the Mars flag?" Lee isn't even worth a dollar a year.  You want progress?  These people need to be treated like the swine they are.   No lobbying after you leave Congress.  Throw their asses in PMITA prison for insier trading.  No flying, driving or riding anywhere on the public dime.  No "special deals" for your husband's company.  I could go on, but you get the picture.

 

Public service is supposed to be service.  It is supposed to be a hardship.  I do not want a permanent governing class

162 "Decrease the power. If you want cleaner, less corrupt government, make it smaller." Couldn't agree more, which is why I support the Fair Tax Plan.

163 When private industry has trouble with employees that abuse their position and take advantage of company resources and privileges to advance their own positions (monetarily and politically), private industry shit cans them and typically demands some form of restitution.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 26, 2013 08:53 AM (60Vyp)

...And then makes sure things like that can't happen again.

164 To be fair, Christmas is also a bogus holiday, made up by Constantine. Everything about it is pagan except for the name of Jesus, who was probably born in September of 2 B.C. My preacher actually did a sermon series on several modern holidays (Easter, Halloween, & Christmas mostly) and pointed out that, historically, what was going on was, if not explicitly stated, well known. The Church was taking pagan holidays and attempting to, if you will, infiltrate pagan culture by associating them with Christian meaning- Easter falls very close to the various Vernal festivals (at least that one we know is more-or-less accurate date-wise), Halloween (well, really All Saints Day on Nov 1) is right there by Samhain, and Christmas is right there with the Yule festivals. But it's not the cynical interpretation of "Uh... yeah! We have a holiday then, too!" but more in the spirit of Paul speaking at Athens- "I see you have an alter to an unknown god- let me tell you about Him..."

165 This year, I saw Nothing on the various local news outlets about Kwanza. First time I can remember no little puff pieces about how to celebrate Kwanza.

166 I guess a magnitude 22.0 earthquake would  be like Jerry Nadler & Barbara Mikulski cannon-balling into the neighbor's pool.

167 How long until they blame the earthquake in Montana on the fracking in North Dakota?

168 "If I am asked, What do you propose to substitute for universal suffrage? Practically, What have you to recommend? I answer at once, Nothing. The whole current of thought and feeling, the whole stream of human affairs, is setting with irresistible force in that direction. The old ways of living, many of which were just as bad in their time as any of our devices can be in ours, are breaking down all over Europe, and are floating this way and that like haycocks in a flood...  The waters are out and no human force can turn them back...

but I do not see why as we go with the stream we need sing Hallelujah to the river god."

J. F. Stephen, 1874

169 Term limits; 2 for senators and 3 for congress. No one who is in congress or who has served in congress in the past is eligible for re-election after the date of the amendment that installs term limits for congress. And no special retirement fund...pay into S.S. and invest in the market(s) like everyone else.

170 obamacare is going to go down in history as one of the biggest tax increases of all time.

171 I'll bet that for a million a year, someone would run against Sheila Jackson Lee. We get to fire representatives every two years. Even Sheila would think twice about voting for something that would cancel her bonus.

172 “You can’t simply take a bunch of data, apply an algorithm and use whatever pops out of a black box to judge teachers, students and our schools,” Randi Weingarten Just getting around to reading the articles. You're right, Ms. Weingarten, but the Teachers' unions won't let us use test scores and graduation rates. Teacher evaluations assume that both the teacher and the students are extroverts (among other not-necessarily-accurate assumptions), so even if the formulas were 100% spot on there would be errors. Graduation rates and test scores, however, are hard metrics that can be reviewed and tabulated against. You don't like *that* either. No, what you really want is no accountability. Which is why my kid is in private school. And yours, too, probably.

173 Here's something. Check the fuckin' balls on this guy.


http://tinyurl.com/l7pacbu



Dear Vets, I know I just broke one off in yo azz, but please send me money...and I thought he was supposed to be one of the good ones, once upon a time. Fuck this Ryan guy.

174 Happy Two Turtle Doves Day. Am I late? I am living on the edge baby! Wild & dangerous! Got dressed today with no long johns. Woo! . . . . My legs are cold....

175 "Term limits; 2 for senators and 3 for congress. No one who is in congress or who has served in congress in the past is eligible for re-election after the date of the amendment that installs term limits for congress." Term limits sound good until you really think about them. First, it punishes good people by throwing them out for no reason. Second, it creates a stealth power structure just under the surface composed of career legislative aides. These people wouldn't be as visible or accountable, but would hold incredible power. No, term limits are not a good idea.

176 Second, it creates a stealth power structure just under the surface composed of career legislative aides. Rotating figuerheads in a corrupt structure. Plus you'd have people getting in to office knowing they only had two terms to cash in.

177 172>> Until you remove the yoots who are there because they have to be, from the students who are there because they want to learn, you will always have "tainted" results. Kids and their parents are responsible every bit as much for poor progression rates and under performing adults as teachers unions and school bureaucrats.

178 Merry Second Day of Christmas, Ron/Ettes, and good morning, two turtle doves and a partridge in a pear tree. Homemade American APPLE PIE* for all Little Red Hens, citizens and legal immigrants of good will and hard work. 23. I'd vote for that to be, MP4. 24. ...so long as "they" let him get away with it. Hm... only so long as "we" let "them" let "him" get away with authoritarianism, which btw bankrupts each of us eventually, and the nation already, completing the "only if" circle ... So the US is debtors prison? Only if we let them take us there, only if our taxes make it so (as is the case, paving our own Road to Serfdom). Rather, #23 -- demand refund from all those Washingtonians (whether elected or lobbying consultants) who DID the screwtape spending. Confiscate THEIR glut and throw THEM in prison // only if they let us... *Prager: Christmas IS as American as Apple Pie! quote: According to Fox News, Weinstein’s Military Religious Freedom Foundation “said they were alerted by an undisclosed number of Airmen who said they were emotionally troubled by the sight of [the nativity scene].” That sentence should be reworded. Those who claim to be emotionally troubled by the sight of a nativity scene are not emotionally troubled by the sight of a nativity scene. They are emotionally troubled. -- Dennis Prager So? When the sight of a father, mother and baby attempting to rest, given permission by the owner, in the humblest "homeless" circumstances emotionally troubles any person, but an Airman or their lawyers in particular, go figure who is unstable in the mind and heart. Perpetual redeployment. Even IF the anti-Christ posture were true, wonder if the Airmen have been ordered on too many airstrikes, orders targeting civilian families in response to what political deceit? Indigenous Christians being slaughtered, genocide, having no refuge but the Good Will of personal relations, coexistence for thousands of years, made rubble by all political sides of terrorists and interventionist governments warring to delete all encumbrances in conquest to bloody own us all. That humble family in the Nativity Scene were PAYING THEIR TAXES. Regardless, as the point remains to RAISE TAXES perpetually (Obama Sr. 100% "income" is taken in taxes in order to dish out what people "deserve" to be permitted according to the authoritarians) until the people lose all in order to feed the Solomon Beast its annual 666 gold tribute. Christmas as a National Holiday, DEMANDED day off by the Happy Holiday Leftists who refuse to allow mention of Jesus' name unless to curse. No Charity, no Salvation Army, send the family who pay their taxes on time to the poor house debtor prison to rot in the 21st Century "affordable care" concentration camps that Uncle Sam can't manage without bankrupting and usurping/ruining the prior balanced system in order to destabilize all good life, and force imbalance, and perpetuate grief to the full extent of Federal Policy which, btw, trumps the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Rule of Law, and your Inalienable Rights. If you let them. If it is permitted by The People. Christmas celebrates Grace and Love. Not simply a poor family paying their taxes and participating legitimately in the mandated/legal census. And being intolerant, the Leftists won't have any Grace, claiming they are emotionally distraught by such, all the while forcing THEIR Policy to trump Law. Or far worse. Given the latest comprehensive legislative reform package that became Law, while never having been written except by perpetual revisionism, LITERAL revisionism from day to day, hour to hour, nothing set in stone. Congress voted to create the mutant Beast created in Obama's image to eat us alive. Democrat bitches bore it and Republican bastards keep it alive, shared socialist values. Among the human sacrifices, the target is any family still intact. So who is surprised that a family of faith, going far out of their way to not simply pay their taxes and in order to participate in the required census, return to their tribal-hereditary hometown*, but also suffering intense hardship simply to abide by the law, causes those with "bleeding hearts" (euphemism for heartless) to feel public humiliation, guilt and shame, "emotionally distraught" caught telling citizens that there is "No Room In The Inn" of the USA for citizens, governmental politicians and bureaucrats having given Policy preference to migrant illegal aliens -- to displace and destabilize everyone except the untouchables who scoff at any who dare speak out. *There is no such thing as one's place of origin since "1984". There is no such word as hereditary or inherit since the "family" is no longer "relevant". THIS IS WHY the Nativity Scene will not be tolerated by Statists without undergoing total perpetual mutant revisionism, to usurp The Holy Family, every family. Only if you allow such. God bless us, everyone. http://tinyurl.com/m4mrokt

179 MPPPP is correct, it is public service, our Founding Fathers did not intend for them to be a congressman, then senator & stay until they die. If Ted K had any honor he would have stepped down after Chappaquidick, but he lied, then he should have stepped down when he was diagnosed with the brain tumor. Byrd, I believe, never retired, but I might have him confused with another ancient senator.

180 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2013 09:02 AM (yh0zB) Seriously... who thought "I know, we'll cut a deal with Democrats and not even pretend to listen to our constituents (because what they want is hard and scary), and then we'll be universally loved by everyone!"

181
http://tinyurl.com/l7pacbu
Fuck this Ryan guy.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde




Situationally fiscally conservative....

182 "Term limits sound good until you really think about them."

The more I think about them, the better they sound.

"First, it punishes good people by throwing them out for no reason. "

By "good", I assume you mean someone adept at pulling the levers of power?

FFS, really?

183 Weinstein's an asshole.

184 "If Ted K had any honor he would have stepped down after Chappaquidick..." Ted Kennedy was what the people of his state wanted. That's how our country works.

185 Charles Babbage's birthday. Thanks, Charlie! What would the intrawebz be today, without you?

186 Posted by: Anthony L. at December 26, 2013 09:10 AM (34n6F) To add on to that and address the other "argument": Career legislative aids? Really? As though a congressman's (or senator's) staff is inherited? No, they hire people- with interviews and everything (well, except the jobs that are handed out as patronage- but that's part of what we're trying to fight). So if someone hires legislative aids who aren't actually writing legislation that voters like, that's on them and they'll get fired. Eventually someone will get the hint.

187 Ryan's despicable actions in this pseudo budget deal clearly mark him as a member in good standing of the RINO GOPe wing of the fake opposition party. He will be the next amnesty champion as well. The war to create an opposition part with integrity is long overdue. Sadly, I think I know who will win!

188 175>> "Term limits sound good until you really think about them." *Pulls beard...hmmmmmm* No, gotta disagree with your rationale. We already have a "a stealth power structure just under the surface composed of career legislative aides [and lobbyists]". The actual execution of power and responsibility lies with the congressman who casts the vote. I see no problems refreshing the collective population of congress at the expense of 'good people' considering that it is a privilege to serve and it is better to limit the potential for (or the continuance of) near inevitable corruption.

189 "... Those ambulatory buttplugs..." Realizahatetion - the masterful turn of phrase when reading a comment that lets you know it's Cappy Hate.

190 I will say that Chief Master Sergeant Wooten's reply was a bit longer and a lot less profane than mine would have been.

191 So... today through Sunday are all going to suck. We're trying to get our house ready to sell (or, better, rent), so we need new floors. In the public areas we're putting laminate (Lumber Liquidators is your friend), and we're having new carpet installed in the bedrooms. We were going to do the laminate this weekend (basically starting tonight when I get home, tomorrow, and then all day Saturday and Sunday) and the carpet was going to be installed sometime next week or the week after. EXCEPT... the carpet came in early, so the contractor is going to install it tomorrow. So instead of being able to take the stuff out of my living-room and get that done and THEN take the stuff out of the bedrooms and get those done, I basically have to have my whole house empty all at once. Oh, and instead of having several days to pack up the bedroom stuff carefully and store it so it's easily accessible, I basically have time to throw it in boxes and hope I can Tetris my way into making it all fit in my garage...

192 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 26, 2013 09:16 AM (60Vyp Continued exposure to virtually unlimited power is like continued exposure to radiation. Eventually you will get sick! Term limits is the only practical solution!

193 Seriously... who thought "I know, we'll cut a deal with Democrats and not even pretend to listen to our constituents (because what they want is hard and scary), and then we'll be universally loved by everyone!"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 09:09 AM (PYAXX)

OK, I know it was a form letter and all, but how f'n tone deaf do you gotta be to beg money from a retired military guy right after you stick a bone in his ass?

194 OK, I know it was a form letter and all, but how f'n tone deaf do you gotta be to beg money from a retired military guy right after you stick a bone in his ass? To quote one of the finest minds in the Republican Party: "That's real retarded... sir."

195 Step 1: Collude with Democrats Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit!

196

Term limits; 2 for senators and 3 for congress. No one who is in congress or who has served in congress in the past is eligible for re-election after the date of the amendment that installs term limits for congress.

 

No one who is in congress or or who has served in congress in the past may join or be employed in any capacity whatsoever with a business or entity that has contracts or dealings with the federal government.

197 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2013 09:20 AM (yh0zB) You know, if the VAG Party had good IT, they never would have sent him that email. They'd know who the veterans on their lists were, and those people would have been excluded from that letter. They might have gotten a *different* one, but they wouldn't have gotten that one.

198 79 autocorrect is killing me. Limbs = libs and cracking = fracking.[/b[
Is that Cockney rhyming slang, guv'nah?

199 Avoiding the barrel on Boxing Day... priceless.

200 "Am curious about the horde's opinion of John Bolton's take on NSA spying. He seems to be all for it because the spies at NSA are honorable people that wouldn't abuse the power. A few years ago I may have agreed but not anymore. Sorry John, I can't go there with you on this."

Bolton is thinking of a bureaucracy peopled with men like himself. But it isn't - at least not at the top: the JEF and his cronies in the Senate have seen to that.

However, the JEF may, without intending it, have done us a service. I hate being forced to live in an electronic panopticon: jail is jail, even if the jailers are honorable. The JEF's stocking the top tiers of the bureaucracy with people who are anything but honorable makes it easier to reject the entire enterprise.

201 ...feeeed meeeeee...

202 We have a VAG Party in Canada too. It's called the "Liberal Party of Canada". (VAG is pronounced vaj, isn't it?)

203 No one who is in congress or or who has served in congress in the past may join or be employed in any capacity whatsoever with a business or entity that has contracts or dealings with the federal government. That sounds good, but it's a lot harder than you think. For instance, it would mean no one who had worked in government could work for Dell, IBM, or HP, among others. And it wouldn't hurt any of those companies' ability to lobby for contracts and even law changes. I think we should go a different rout- Lobbyists must not only be "registered" but Licensed- and anyone who has held an elected position cannot be a lobbyist for that level of government for 20 years. Penalty for "practicing without a license" would be roughly equivalent to practicing medicine without a license. Even that is pie-in-the-sky and not actually workable. But I think it's closer than a blanket ban.

204 Help me, Spock. Help me.

205 Penalty for "practicing without a license" would be roughly equivalent to practicing medicine without a license.
You get to open a PP-approved abortion clinic?

206

Term limits sound good until you really think about them.

 

I have given them thought.  They are a blunt weapon, but the rot is too deep for surgical excision.

 

First, it punishes good people by throwing them out for no reason.

 

"Good people" do not look on congressional service as a lifetime sinecure.  There's your reason.

 

Second, it creates a stealth power structure just under the surface composed of career legislative aides. These people wouldn't be as visible or accountable, but would hold incredible power.

 

Term limit their asses, too.  When their congressroach gets tossed out, so do they.  Or scrap the snivel service exam and go back to the spoils system.  Nobody but the garbagemen get to spend their lives in DC.

 

No, term limits are not a good idea.

 

With the scum we have in congress, I'll take any weapon to Preston Brooks their worthless asses.

207 #205 Doh!
I guess the holiday yesterday took more out of me than I thought for the holiday today.

208 "Am curious about the horde's opinion of John Bolton's take on NSA spying. He seems to be all for it because the spies at NSA are honorable people that wouldn't abuse the power. A few years ago I may have agreed but not anymore. Sorry John, I can't go there with you on this." Bolton is thinking of a bureaucracy peopled with men like himself. But it isn't - at least not at the top: the JEF and his cronies in the Senate have seen to that. However, the JEF may, without intending it, have done us a service. I hate being forced to live in an electronic panopticon: jail is jail, even if the jailers are honorable. The JEF's stocking the top tiers of the bureaucracy with people who are anything but honorable makes it easier to reject the entire enterprise. Posted by: Brown Line at December 26, 2013 09:25 AM (VrNoa) I think he is worried about the same thing I am. Last time the liberals had at our security apparatuses, it was the Senate's "Church Commission and Hearings" named after it's chairman Frank Church. They decimated our intelligence community and that probably leads directly to 9/11. Sure maybe the NSA has to be reigned in some, but to be honest, I am still not so sure what they did or are doing. So in this case, my advice: Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it!

209 Am curious about the horde's opinion of John Bolton's take on NSA spying I disagree with his take- I think it's based on assumptions which simply are not valid. But he looks at the world through a National Security lens. Everything else comes after National Security in his world- including civil rights. Which is not to say he opposes civil rights or is purposefully antagonistic to the 4th Amendment, simply that he thinks those -"however good they may be"- are secondary to National Security.

210 OK, it was a long night capped off by freezing rain for the drive home, so I'm off to get some shut-eye. At least I won't have to work tonight.

Later roonz and roonettez. Fear no evil.

211

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 09:27 AM (PYAXX)

 

Good points, Allen.  I just want to make sure that someone like the Webelo Whisperer can't lose an election and then get on the board of Smooth Boy Bungholes of Provincetown Co., smirking that his "connections" in DC will get lots of money for the company.

212 You get to open a PP-approved abortion clinic? Something like that... I am still not so sure what they did or are doing. By their own admission, they're intercepting all of your electronic communications without a warrant.

213 There are honorable people in all branches of government, but it is insane to expect that all government officials are honorable, especially with a lawless regime appointing unaccountable TOP.MEN to positions of real power, all the while protected by secrecy laws that are too secret for citizens to know about. Bolton has lost sight of Lord Acton's cautionary note.

214 GGE, I would have about the same eloquence as you, "Fuck this Ryan guy." I want to punt all these bastards in their tiny little balls. (Smaller balls and smaller brains than Party Murray and he is one of the GOP stars, let that sink in gopers) And they want us to line up for Tom Tillis. The establishment gop is as much my enemy as the democrat and if Tom is their friend than fuck him right along with them (and a punt for his balls also)

215 Anyone try the long/latitude coordinates that rdbrewer posted in the sidebar of the home page?

Uneducated guess here...  Oakland or anywhere in NoCal.

216

Greetings from Sydney on a nice warm early Friday morning  -spent Thursday reclining on the couch watching the Test cricket - so nice not having to go to work for a few weeks

 

I did that dialect quiz - wildly irrelevant of course because I'm an Aussie however I know now that I come from close to New York City, Los Angeles and Jersey City!

 

Reading panzernashorn's comment, I was struck by that strange complaint about a nativity scene - seriously??

 

One of the shopping centres I like happens to be in the middle of a high Muslim population - and this shopping centre has had a nativity scene each year as long as I've been going there

 

This year I was most surprised to see the nativity scene all spruced up and surrounded by pretty lights, Christmas trees and a designated viewing platform - first time I've seen people standing around the display

 

 

 

 

217 Not all of your e-communications, AllenG. We're letting the ones with subject lines including "nude Ewoks" go.

218 Congress is full of Rent Seekers fed by rules and regulations conjured up by legions of attorneys both elected and selected. The problem that we face is that both the Marxocrats and the RINOs run for office for Public Service alright, but it ain't the taxpaying public that's getting serviced. The TEA Party is the only group that addresses this set of problems head on, and for that the Ruling Class has identified them as a threat to be marginalized by any and all means. The GOP as it is now constituted is not only incapable of forming reliable opposition to the statist Marxocrats it is discreetly aligned with them and helping drive the resistance to the reforms put forward by TEA Partiers, while denigrating and undermining the TP as well. There is ZERO hope of any meaningful reversal without a thorough gutting of the GOP.

219 Posted by: aussie at December 26, 2013 09:35 AM (guXLk) Question from an uneducated, jingoistic American- Do y'all use evergreens (pines, firs, etc.) for your Christmas Trees? Are the Yule/Winter Solstice flavors still there? I've never actually thought about it before, re: our South-of-the-Equator friends.

220 Uneducated guess here... Oakland or anywhere in NoCal.
I haven't checked but I think it's hinted at that it's a site from Breaking Bad in the New Mexico desert.

221 "Am curious about the horde's opinion of John Bolton's take on NSA spying" I think that if 'The Stache' saw a few top level bureaucrats tossed in the slammer for 10-15 years with their pensions revoked, and a lot more mid-level NSA people exposed and jailed for enabling the top level guys, "The Stache" would reconsider his position.

222 Apparently programming code can be complicated. Who knew? The Palestinians are getting restless. --- Palis getting restless? I guess it is a day ending in Y. As far as that computer code goes, my job involves creating, building, and repairing modules for a large system which is extremely complicated. I attempt to test how I can in the lower testing environments, to make sure the basic rules work, but I'm completely honest with my bosses and the testers that there's no way to know how well this stuff works until we put it into our copy of the production environment and give control to people who weren't involved in its creation / alteration. Good testing involves creating test cases out there to hit most, if not all, of the potential paths caused by case statements, if statements, etc. Great testing involves running it against a bunch of real data to see what turns out right and what didn't, then figure out a fix and try it again.

223 I haven't checked but I think it's hinted at that it's a site from Breaking Bad in the New Mexico desert. If you were Bugs Bunny, you'd have to be travelling from the NW to make your famous turn.

224 @220 It's the White residence.

225 So we got a Christmas Day dump, but not one for Boxing Day? What's up with that?

226 ...I'm of 2 minds about that legislators salary. It assures only very well to do and connected people are able to actually serve....

I'm of the opinion that they should be forced live off of only what they can steal.

227 I'm pleased to read that you're having a good Boxing Day, Aussie. I've got nothing planned for today other than shovelling snow as I'm not in the mood for the Boxing Day madness in the shopping malls no matter how good the deals. (But maybe next week.) So I've got snow worries, mate!

And on the dialect quiz, NYC was one of my likely locations too so I guess in NYC proper (and not in all the suburbs) they tend to speak standard Queen's English so it's closest to our shared heritage. Beauty, eh?

228 220 Uneducated guess here... Oakland or anywhere in NoCal.
I haven't checked but I think it's hinted at that it's a site from Breaking Bad in the New Mexico desert.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2013 09:38 AM (f6z8e)

It's someone's house in Albuquerque, NM.

229 I thought it might have been where Walter buried the money but it's the house. Fine.

230 It's the location for Kookamonga Cucamonga? What a maroon I am!

231 Andrea Tantaros and Kim Guilfoyle both received honorable mentions at tthe Celebrity Legs Best Legs of 2013 page. Gretchen Carlson too.

232

219 Allen G etc

 

Yes we can buy real pine trees - there are plantations of them just for Christmas  sales plus the good old reliable fake ones

All the Christmas stuff is here - as in going shopping during a heatwave and hearing Let it Snow and wishing that it would do just that...

 

One of the differences because it's summer (even though it rained and was a bit cool on Christmas Day in Sydney) is that many people opt for cold stuff for Christmas lunch/ dinner

 

Cold ham, turkey, pork, salads, seafood , but a lot of people still insist on having a hot Christmas pudding with brandy sauce for dessert

 

Of course, we also can have Christmas in July when it's winter - it's a big thing Down Under 

233 175 No, term limits are not a good idea. Posted by: jwest Just another reminder that we need term limits, and NOW.

234

Back to work after a relaxing Christmas day.   One of the gifts I received was  fifty $2.00 scratch off tickets ( for those who don't do math , that's a $100 gift) .   Out of the fifty, only nine tickets were winners  for a total  of $33.00.  

 

I will admit I did get at least $67.00 worth of anticipation of a big payoff,  so it was a great gift.  

235 The Buffalo News (NY Slimes wannabees and worthless propagandists for The Regime) is reporting that the NYS 404Care exchange website is a resounding success. According to them, the site is downright fabulous and beloved by all.

236

OT to NDH:  thank you very much for the Christmas update on Mr. Harrison--he must have received thousands of greetings and thanks, and no doubt will be getting more for the coming days.

 

Wondering if that can be a regular part of your Open Blogger contributions, to highlight a vet now and then who turns out to be unable to make their honor flight?  I would send a card or note, and it's a very small thing to do that makes some difference.

 

Not trying to lay extra on you, just enjoyed having the opportunity to say thanks and send some cheer, and quite willing to do it again on a regular basis.  Maybe links to groups that already organize that, repeated for plain old morons like me?

--------------------------------

Copied that lovely photo from last night's ONT onto my facebook page, with Jesus and the moneychangers.  Thinking of a New Year's post to my peeps there to draw some battle lines:  "I don't hate or fear your differences.  I don't applaud them and give you money for them, nor will I any longer stand still for being piously harangued about them, not because I'm a racist/homophobe/anti-science H8R, but because YOU are a strident whiny intolerant obnoxious a$$hole.  Now get the **** out of my face before I flip your table and start chasing you with a whip.  Have a nice day."

 

That feels about right. 

237 I'm ready for the Repub civil war; the sooner the better. Let's get it on.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 26, 2013 07:24 AM

Either today or tomorrow I'm headed to the registrars office to change to the Constitution Party ... that should stop all the calls begging for money to elect the Fat-Man and Jeb.

238 All the Christmas stuff is here - as in going shopping during a heatwave and hearing Let it Snow Not so much this year, but that happens in Texas sometimes. Cold ... seafood Cold... seafood? Beyond sushi (which I'll eat, but it's not my favorite) I would never have thought of that as "a thing."

239 If I were to support any kind of term limit, it would be something different than what everyone is describing. Each congressional district would randomly pick 3 people each term from the voter rolls. Voters would pick one for that 2 year cycle. Once someone has served, they could never be picked again. Same with the senate. Statewide, pick three at random and vote for the best one. 1 term only then go away.

240 I won $2 on my $2 scratch N win too, polynikes! Woohoo!!!

241

As simply as I can say it, since I'm not feeling very pithy today:

 

Anything that decreases the power of the State over citizens is to be applauded.

 

Anything that increases the power of the State over citizens is to be resisted.

242 and anyone who has held an elected position cannot be a lobbyist for that level of government for 20 years.
Posted by: AllenG



There are already a stack of regulations on executive branch, and I believe military, folks moving into lobbyist jobs when they retire.

Doesn't really do much, since instead of becoming a "lobbyist" they go to work for a "think tank", "public advocacy group", "university lecturer" or a dozen other ways to pretend constantly harping on an issue isn't lobbying.

243 Fat-Man and Jeb It sounds like a sit-com. Actually, it would make a netter sitcom that a Presidential ticket. Throw in Crack Mayor as the wacky neighbor and I'm there...

244 The problem isn't the code, it's the silly metrics they are attempting to use to evaluate teachers so they can give the unions more money. Test scores - simple and difficult to fudge, and therefore not acceptable to unions and apparatchiks. "Cognitive process" and "critical thinking" (Not real critical thinking, but what the Progs call critical thinking)  metrics - nice & fuzzy, and almost impossible to deconstruct, since they are all BS  - perfect for artificially raising scores and therefore union compensation.

This is all an attempt to get around the NCLB standards, which actually required schools systems to improve before they got more money. can't have that.

I noticed that the teacher that got fired for being "ineffictive" turned out to actually have been "Marginally Effective", and was given back pay and their job back. In any real business, if someone who was rated marginally effective was let go (by accident or otherwise), they wouldn't be scrambling to hire them back, what with the chances being that that the replacement would have been better.

245 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 26, 2013 09:54 AM (kdS6q) The difference, where it exists, is mostly in *how* you can spend your time and money. But, yes, I knew from the beginning that it wouldn't work. Here's the issue- the only way (the only one- period) to stop the massive corruption in Government is for the World to end. When Jesus returns, we won't have corruption in government anymore. Until then, the only defense against a corrupt government is to have a government so small and weak that its corruption can't harm us (yet, as a smart man once noted, big and strong enough that it can keep us from purposefully harming each other).

246

227 andycanuck

 

Hi there to a fellow Commonwealth citizen!

Yes it was a very lazy Boxing Day - I just love watching cricket and the start of the Sydney to Hobart yacht race on this day

 

As for Boxing Day sales, I saw vision of the madness in the city - hordes of people just racing in to shops when the doors opened - I'm sure plenty of those very keen people were just there to get there faces on TV news

 

Shovelling snow - as much as I like to see snow you can keep that activity - I'm happy to swat flies and spray spiders right now!

 

 

247

Fat-Man and Jeb

It sounds like a sit-com. Actually, it would make a netter sitcom that a Presidential ticket.

Throw in Crack Mayor as the wacky neighbor and I'm there...

 

Nancy Pelosi  and Harry Reid as the next door neighbors, like the Ropers.  Except Harry's always visiting his "nephews" while a horny, drunk Nancy keeps hitting on Fat Man.

248 Ben up

249 Boxing Day is supposed to be about distributing clothes and other necessaries to the poor; not having a major shopping day.

250 In any real business, if someone who was rated marginally effective was let go (by accident or otherwise), they wouldn't be scrambling to hire them back, what with the chances being that that the replacement would have been better. Not necessarily true. Remember that teachers are contract employees (that is to say- they have contracts which detail when & why they can be fired; they're not "at will" employees). So, just like any other contract employee, if they're fired "on accident" you would have to at least offer them their job back- though they could elect not to take it for a variety of reasons. So them rehiring the teacher and giving back-pay wasn't just (or even necessarily) about them being in the Teachers' Union, but about the employer (in this case, the School District) being in breach of contract.

251

238 AllenG

 

Cold seafood that is popular for Christmas meals - prawns, oysters, lobster meat, smoked salmon..

 

Another Christmas concept borrowed from the cold Northern Hemisphere - my snowman earrings I wear at Christmas and my daughter has ones with Santa somehow hanging off snowflakes !

 

 

 

 

252 AllenG, most real businesses would hunker down after the 'mistake', and hope you don't notice and sue. Not scramble to hire you back and provide back pay and apologies.

253 The old dead thread it ain't what it used to be. If the crowds are cleared out, fewer to be bothered by my own-horn tootin'... We know how they got there, but how did Mary and Joseph & newborn get out of the barn? New revelation in cartoon form Moving on Up Day 5 of Journey to Bethlehem http://mindfulwebworks.com/doodles/moving-on-up Start at Day 1: http://mindfulwebworks.com/doodles/packing-for-three-actually

254 AllenG, most real businesses would hunker down after the 'mistake', and hope you don't notice and sue. Only if there was hope that you wouldn't notice and sue. And that *is* where the union comes in- making sure things like that are noticed and suits filed.

255 Sounds like a cool way to celebrate Christmas. Unless someone falls off a boat into the Delaware, in which case it will be a really cold way to celebrate Christmas.

256 "Friends and Comrades" -- a phrase from Obama's chat with troops in Hawaii.

257 #243 "Crack mayor" is a fiscal con who has limited tax increases to the (imaginary) 1.5% inflation rate, cut spending by half a billion, ended or lowered city fees and brought city unions to heel, making him the best mayor I've known in Toronto in my adult life.

The leftist media especially the 9th-grade-level-written NYT wannabe, the Toronto Star, that was pissed off that their candidate, a married gay "ex" coke-head who lost $1-billion through incompetence trying to put the province's medical records onto a single database when he was a Liberal cabinet minister (where he was knows as Furious George by underlings over his violent temper) lost in a landslide to the not-quite-our-class-dear, overweight Rob Ford so they've been after him and his family since the day after the election.

BTW, the married gay mayoral candidate stage-managed finalization of the adoption of a black kid for the day of the election that, ha-ha, he lost; and recently his 'husband' went missing for half a day and was found wandering in a stupor (to coin a phrase) in a section of the city known for its crack houses---a story the MFM has shown surprisingly little interest in investigating. A MFM that has also been ignoring a Liberal mayor charged with massive corruption; the lesbian Liberal premier (the province's "prime minister") who is currently in a billion-dollar-plus scandal; and a Liberal former deputy minister of education for Ontario and close friend to the lesbian premier and the federal Liberal Party's leader, Justin Trudeau, who has been arrested for kiddie pr0n possession and creation.

258 #243 "Crack mayor" is a fiscal con who has limited tax increases to the (imaginary) 1.5% inflation rate, cut spending by half a billion, ended or lowered city fees and brought city unions to heel, making him the best mayor I've known in Toronto in my adult life.

The leftist media especially the 9th-grade-level-written NYT wannabe, the Toronto Star, that was pissed off that their candidate, a married gay "ex" coke-head who lost $1-billion through incompetence trying to put the province's medical records onto a single database when he was a Liberal cabinet minister (where he was knows as Furious George by underlings over his violent temper) lost in a landslide to the not-quite-our-class-dear, overweight Rob Ford so they've been after him and his family since the day after the election.

BTW, the married gay mayoral candidate stage-managed finalization of the adoption of a black kid for the day of the election that, ha-ha, he lost; and recently his 'husband' went missing for half a day and was found wandering in a stupor (to coin a phrase) in a section of the city known for its crack houses---a story the MFM has shown surprisingly little interest in investigating. A MFM that has also been ignoring a Liberal mayor charged with massive corruption; the lesbian Liberal premier (the province's "prime minister") who is currently in a billion-dollar-plus scandal; and a Liberal former deputy minister of education for Ontario and close friend to the lesbian premier and the federal Liberal Party's leader, Justin Trudeau, who has been arrested for kiddie pr0n possession and creation.

259 #243 "Crack mayor" is a fiscal con who has limited tax increases to the (imaginary) 1.5% inflation rate, cut spending by half a billion, ended or lowered city fees and brought city unions to heel, making him the best mayor I've known in Toronto in my adult life.

The leftist media especially the 9th-grade-level-written NYT wannabe, the Toronto Star, that was pissed off that their candidate, a married gay "ex" coke-head who lost $1-billion through incompetence trying to put the province's medical records onto a single database when he was a Liberal cabinet minister (where he was knows as Furious George by underlings over his violent temper) lost in a landslide to the not-quite-our-class-dear, overweight Rob Ford so they've been after him and his family since the day after the election.

BTW, the married gay mayoral candidate stage-managed finalization of the adoption of a black kid for the day of the election that, ha-ha, he lost; and recently his 'husband' went missing for half a day and was found wandering in a stupor (to coin a phrase) in a section of the city known for its crack houses---a story the MFM has shown surprisingly little interest in investigating. A MFM that has also been ignoring a Liberal mayor charged with massive corruption; the lesbian Liberal premier (the province's "prime minister") who is currently in a billion-dollar-plus scandal; and a Liberal former deputy minister of education for Ontario and close friend to the lesbian premier and the federal Liberal Party's leader, Justin Trudeau, who has been arrested for kiddie pr0n possession and creation.

260 Sherry, I would never set out to offend the legion of very fine programmers who happen to be women, but Ada Lovelace never saw any of her programs realized, so she never got to experience the joy of debugging them. That whole challenge associated with debugging programs was a surprise to everybody. I find Maurice Wilkes's quote* to be particularly apropos. So, I don't recognize Ada Lovelace to be the first programmer. Whether or not Grace Hopper wrote the first compiler is a matter of debate. Various schemes were used to partially automate the process of programming and there a number of systems that were created that were nearly compilers of the sort we use today. The first compiler for a programming language that we recognize today as a full compiler was the 1957 FORTRAN I compiler written by a team led by John Backus. In fact, the history of computers is rife with devices and techniques that are real close to what we use today, but aren't quite the same thing. The first computers had hard-wired functionality, kind of like what some people are doing with FPGA's today. However, someone had to configure the plugboards that set the functionality. That's programming, of a sort, just not the kind of thing we usually call programming today. The first stored-program computer, where the computer program and the data it manipulated were viewed as basically the same thing, was built in 1949 by Dr Wilkes. The "feminist programming language" schtick hearkens back to the joke languages of the 1980's. I don't know if you remember VALGOL, SLOBOL, and Tenne-C. *"It was on one of my journeys between the EDSAC room and the punching equipment that 'hesitating at the angles of stairs' the realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."

261 Vic, you may say "don't do the crime". But you need to understand that it is young men that are having their lives ruined by this. My stepson's terrible crime was throwing a doughnut at a cop. (Thankfully he didn't hit him or he would have been charged with assault). Then he got a couple of speeding tickets, lost his license and they just kept tacking on more in fines. He's 24 now and still can't get this mess cleared up. If he gets a job, he loses it when they check his record. He's trying to start a small business, but it's hard to do when you can't drive. Is this mess his fault? Absolutely. If he was from a rich family, he's have done no jail time and have a clean record. I don't see how they can expect anyone to pay fines if they can't work. You should spend a little time down at the local jail (or just read the jail roster). There are a lot of folks in jail for trivial violations, just because they can't pay the fines. Do you really want your tax dollars spent to jail someone for "illegal camping"?

262 Comment 224 is right. The article is a hit piece. Notice it dances giving any information and only gives conclusions. Maybe they should fire some administrators to fix the problems. They could then use the salaries they are no longer paying to give teachers bonuses.

263 Sorry, comment 244 not 224.

264 Jobseeker meteor reactions: Ahhh... say, how fast do we get fully vested in those company 401K contributions again?

265 Ahhhh... say, how fast do we get on the healthcare plan again?!!