December 27, 2013

Top Headline Comments 12-27-13
— Gabriel Malor

FRIIIIIIDAAAAAAY!

Ken White aka @Popehat on speech and outrage.

Obama's Top 10 Constitutional Violations of 2013.

The academic boycott of Israel continues to go not-so-well for the idiot group that proposed it.

How Obamacare Costs Michigan: among other things, "when Jan. 1 arrives there will actually be less people who have health care coverage than there were when Obamacare was passed." He means "fewer," but you get the point.

Have a great weekend.

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Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 27, 2013 02:51 AM (LSDdO)

2 Second?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 27, 2013 02:52 AM (JpC1K)

3 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Friday, December 27, 2013.  On this day in 1932 Radio City Music Hall opened in NYC.  One wonders if the Rockettes were the opening act?  (actually it was Ray Bolger, Doc Rockwell and Martha Graham.)

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

4 Obama is enjoying another vacation in HI where his BS healthcare exchange is a massive failure.


http://tinyurl.com/pj8qdpx

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

5 And the botched rollout in MD has created an intra-party feud among the Democrats and is helping the Republicans in the upcoming elections.  But I wouldn't count any chickens there, it is MD.


http://tinyurl.com/q2rdrmv

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

6 People in the NE are without power due to an ice storm and it will be days before they get it back.  The picture illustrates why you lose power during these things.  We talked about how this can be prevented yesterday.


http://tinyurl.com/nejuqbp

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

7 Idiot commie Senator from CN wants UPS to give refunds to people who Christmas packages were late.  Piss on him.  If you wait to the last minute to mail shit at Christmas it will be late.  It always has and it always will be.


http://tinyurl.com/pdkf3sc

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

8 The first federal hate crime charges on the "knock out game" have been charged against a white man who broke an elderly black man's jaw.  Where are the hate crime charges for the hundreds of "knock out game attacks" by blacks on white people, including ones that have resulted in deaths?   This is why I hate "hate crime" laws.  And it is also not supposed to be filed by the feds unless local authorities are not adequately prosecuting the case.  There is no indication of that here.  Of course we are talking about the corrupt DOJ here.


http://tinyurl.com/njcbwro

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

9 Fox is pushing the Fat Man for 2016.  They always find some RINO to push in the early stages.  As I have said previously, it is far to early for these polls to be anything more than a name recognition contest.


http://tinyurl.com/pc7c6ou

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

10 Remember the "Cadillac health plan tax"?   Well, in 2014 all health plans will be taxed to pay for Obamacide for those people in the FSA who get it free.


http://tinyurl.com/lkmnh58

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

11 in at 10

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 27, 2013 02:54 AM (KlVdw)

12 The Daily Caller reviews the worst police misconduct cases of 2013.


http://tinyurl.com/pnt2enx

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

13 Missed it by that much

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 27, 2013 02:54 AM (KlVdw)

14 Another fake anti-gay attack is foiled by police.


http://tinyurl.com/oforvbg

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

15 The WH flies 7 bills to HI instead of using the auto-pen for Obama to do a photo-op for propaganda.


http://tinyurl.com/ouyx8sp

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

16 Syrian terrorists supported by Obama attack a hospital.


http://tinyurl.com/pvkg9zt

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

17 The Chamber of Commerce plans to spend $50M supporting establishment Republican Party members against conservative challengers in the primaries.  So if you have been giving money to the chamber of commerce, quit.


http://tinyurl.com/mjxgu7m

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

18 Is this a temporary aberration or are people really going to Detroit to "tour the ruins"?


http://tinyurl.com/obb26zc

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

19 The "fix" is in.  Federal appeals court in Utah refuses stay while Utah appeals judges decision to invalidate their gay marriage law based on one of the stupidest decisions I have ever heard.


http://tinyurl.com/pvrbdtc

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

20 Nikki Haley's husband gave her a Baretta PX4 for Christmas.  Of course The State doesn't like that.


http://tinyurl.com/oyawkhc

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

21 Pajama Boy


http://news.investors.com/photopopup.aspx?id=684326

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

22 Obama did have one of his very rare moments back in 2008 when he actually told the truth.  He said your energy bills were going to go through the roof because of his energy policies.  Well, they are.


http://tinyurl.com/mscsyvq

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

23 Kindle Daily Deals


http://tinyurl.com/pfeytwx


That's it for today folks. I will be leaving in a little while to go down and pick up drugs.  I haven't taken my Plavix in two weeks now because of colonoscopy and being out.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:57 AM (T2V/1)

24 Did Obama do anything besides take vacations that was not unconstitutional?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 02:58 AM (T2V/1)

25

Take that Plavix Vic!!  Thanks for the headlines, as usual!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 27, 2013 02:59 AM (b2cFu)

26 Obamacare.  The "tax" that keeps on giving.

Posted by: Case at December 27, 2013 03:00 AM (wf3Kt)

27 It's a beautiful day in the global neighborhood! Sing it! ... what time do the bars open around here?

Posted by: and irresolute at December 27, 2013 03:02 AM (RqHWH)

28 Plavix.

When I see the commercial I think of Professor Frink from the Simpsons.

Hoyvin Glavin!

Posted by: Bruce at December 27, 2013 03:02 AM (nZ561)

29 DAY 418 1,043 to go (1,114 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, McAuliffe's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:03 AM (olDqf)

30 27 It's a beautiful day in the global neighborhood! Sing it! ... what time do the bars open around here?

Posted by: and irresolute at December 27, 2013 07:02 AM (RqHWH)



As soon as I get back from the drug store.  But no porch rocker today.  Its 32° out this morning.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 03:03 AM (T2V/1)

31 Morning!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 27, 2013 03:04 AM (b/lt+)

32 Didn't Fox try and push John Kuntsman last time?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:04 AM (olDqf)

33 People in the NE are without power due to an ice storm and it will be days before they get it back. The picture illustrates why you lose power during these things. We talked about how this can be prevented yesterday.
http://tinyurl.com/nejuqbp Posted by: Vic
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Bury the cables?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 27, 2013 03:04 AM (b/lt+)

34 What they won't mention about the NE ice storm blackouts?

The majority of the problem is that the electrical grid infrastructure in the NE is over loaded out of date and badly in need of repairs.

This has been brought about over the years by NIMBY and eco freaks fighting tooth and nail every upgrade and add on that the electric companies have tried to bring in.

As a result in CT in Stamford a large and fairly modern city in one of the richest counties in the US has more than it's share of blackouts and brown outs due to equipment failure.

And as each year goes by the potential cost of upgrading the equipment rises exponentially.

I live there 18 yrs and at least twice a year we would lose power.

I've been in PA now for 7 yrs and only had one power loss when a lightning strike occurred a block away and blew out a transformer and the top of the pole.

People don't understand that if there isn't extra capacity, then when part of the grid fails, it goes out. With extra capacity, usually rerouting can be done and either there is no outage or the outage is short lived.

(this one here was because it was so close that there was not rerouting possible.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 27, 2013 03:05 AM (LSDdO)

35 3 Posted by: Vic at December 27, 2013 06:52 AM (T2V/1) As is our wont, we had "White Christmas" on the tube throughout the last few days. Vera-Ellen started her career as a Rockette as a teenager, but was fired after two weeks for "being to individualistic." Her career on screen was not as appreciated as Ginger Rogers, Eleanor Powell or Anne Miller, but she was arguably the best overall female dancer of that era. Tragic end for her as well. And she was a staunch Republican to boot.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:08 AM (olDqf)

36 33  Bury the cables?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 27, 2013 07:04 AM (b/lt+)



Too expensive unless doing it in new neighborhoods. Tree trimming will prevent it.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 03:09 AM (T2V/1)

37 Obama is enjoying another vacation in HI where his BS healthcare exchange is a massive failure. http://tinyurl.com/pj8qdpx Posted by: Vic at December 27, 2013 06:52 AM (T2V/1) But as the news pointed out, this isn't a fun vacation. He signed two whole bills since he's been there.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 27, 2013 03:10 AM (nj9sX)

38 35  Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 07:08 AM (olDqf)


You did notice in that movie every dress she wore had a high collar so it would not show her anorexia.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 03:11 AM (T2V/1)

39 Greetings from Phnom Penh. Gonna take the teen thunder children to the museum of the Cambodian genocide at the killing fields tomorrow and show them the end result of communism and what happens when you surrender control to central planners. 2 million dead. Pol pot was never tried, he was not killed. He died of natural causes in 1998.

Posted by: Thunderb at December 27, 2013 03:11 AM (wOZV/)

40 Posted by: Vic at December 27, 2013 07:09 AM (T2V/1)

Tree trimming, more substations for rerouting when lines go down, lines restrung with stronger wire.

Also they have stymied a new high voltage feeder line into the NE for over 15 years because of emf concerns, property values and prices and of course the environment.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 27, 2013 03:11 AM (LSDdO)

41 But as the news pointed out, this isn't a fun vacation. He signed two whole bills since he's been there.
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti

I just hope he can hang on until his next vacation. He must be plumb tuckered out!

Posted by: Bruce at December 27, 2013 03:11 AM (nZ561)

42 Burying utility cables would be a major expense. No doubt it would jack up your rates for quite some time to come. But, it's not a bad idea for communities to consider if they are situated in areas that are prone to downed lines in winter. Of course, the EPA and the enviro-tyrants will scream bloody murder and the rest of the Fed will insist on taking a cut.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:12 AM (olDqf)

43 Idiot commie Senator from CN wants UPS to give refunds to people who Christmas packages were late. Piss on him. If you wait to the last minute to mail shit at Christmas it will be late. It always has and it always will be. http://tinyurl.com/pdkf3sc Posted by: Vic at December 27, 2013 06:53 AM (T2V/1) I haven't had a single problem with UPS recently at home or work. Hell, I ordered a new pressure washer Sunday, and it was delivered yesterday right on time.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 27, 2013 03:12 AM (nj9sX)

44 It's 25 degrees here in Alabama.  And some ship is caught in ice near Antarctica.  I thought all that ice was suppose to have melted?  I'm sure the Global Warming scientists said so a few years ago. 

Posted by: Case at December 27, 2013 03:13 AM (wf3Kt)

45 the delays probably mostly happen in high density areas.

too many to deliver with too much traffic.

It's not a job I would want.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 27, 2013 03:13 AM (LSDdO)

46 This weekend can't come fast enough

Posted by: billypaintbrush at December 27, 2013 03:14 AM (9/iF+)

47 38 You did notice in that movie every dress she wore had a high collar so it would not show her anorexia. Posted by: Vic at December 27, 2013 07:11 AM (T2V/1) Yup. She was much more attractive in "On the Town" only a few years earlier. Sad. And then her only child died of Crib Death which really was the bitter end for her.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:14 AM (olDqf)

48 40  Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 27, 2013 07:11 AM (LSDdO)



You can't make a line strong enough to keep it from going down when a tree or a big limb falls on it.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 03:15 AM (T2V/1)

49 You did notice in that movie every dress she wore had a high collar so it would not show her anorexia.

Posted by: Vic at December 27, 2013 07:11 AM (T2V/1)

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My wife pointed out her anorexia to me a couple of years back and now I can't "un-see" it whenever the movie is on.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 27, 2013 03:15 AM (KlVdw)

50 Too expensive unless doing it in new neighborhoods. Tree trimming will prevent it.
Posted by: Vic
.............
Yeah.  They do that here where there are still poles.  My neighborhood has no poles.. all buried.  But the feeds into the neighborhood are on polls, and the way they trim the trees is sometimes comical.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 27, 2013 03:15 AM (b/lt+)

51 The Chamber of Commerce plans to spend $50M supporting establishment Republican Party members against conservative challengers in the primaries. So if you have been giving money to the chamber of commerce, quit.


http://tinyurl.com/mjxgu7m

Posted by: Vic at December 27, 2013 06:55 AM (T2V/1)



The CoC has become a microcosm of the Republican party where the crony capitalists are overruling the small bidness types.  I've heard they're already getting some pushback.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 27, 2013 03:15 AM (8Cg4b)

52 49 My wife pointed out her anorexia to me a couple of years back and now I can't "un-see" itwhenever the movie is on. Posted by: Darth Randall at December 27, 2013 07:15 AM (KlVdw) I have that problem now with Rock Hudson. Cannot watch the movie "Giant" any more. Anyway, just watch her legs when she dances. What an amazing talent.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:17 AM (olDqf)

53 You can't make a line strong enough to keep it from going down when a tree or a big limb falls on it.
Posted by: Vic

Maybe if we were to present it as a green initiative, we could get some Obamabucks to do the research.

Top. Men.

Posted by: Bruce at December 27, 2013 03:17 AM (nZ561)

54 I scanned through the freebie HD movies on the cable pay-per-view last night (Cox), found the 1984 Red Dawn and started watching it. When my wife came home, she asked me what I was watching. When I told her, she said, "I never saw that." I do not think I've watched it in its entirety since it was in the movie theaters. My wife watched it with me, and it scared the shit out of her. In case you haven't seen it in a while, these things were freaky: 1. The description of the world situation at the beginning of the movie 2. The Nicaraguan colonel's order to grab the 4473s out of the sporting goods store 3. The propaganda at the drive-in movie theater reeducation camp is about what you'd expect from the MSM 3a. The soviet soldier's then-hilarious translation of the Arapaho National Forest sign is probably being taught earnestly in more than one university in this country 4. Powers Boothe's description of how the soviets sent advance agents across the southern border as illegals who then infiltrated key military bases and communication/transportation centers

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 27, 2013 03:17 AM (V3kRK)

55 Someone (Carol?) mentioned the other day that there is a civil war brewing with the GOP. Well, it's here. The question is who has more money; the Krony Kapitalists' millions, or the rest of us put together? The other "X" factor will be tuning out the inevitable propaganda from not just the MFM but the so-called "conservative pundits" like Will, Kraut, Rubin, Parker who will all want to push Kris Kreosote or Jeb on us. And tell Schmukabee to go away!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:20 AM (olDqf)

56 18>> Is this a temporary aberration or are people really going to Detroit to "tour the ruins"? The ruins of Detroit ought to be preserved and photographed, filmed and web-cam'd for everyone to see. It is prima facia evidence of the consequences of liberalism and cronyism.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 03:22 AM (60Vyp)

57 Yeah. They do that here where there are still poles. My neighborhood has no poles.. all buried. But the feeds into the neighborhood are on polls, and the way they trim the trees is sometimes comical. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 27, 2013 07:15 AM (b/lt+) They were trimming the lines in front of my house one day. The line from the pole to my weatherhead runs through a tree. I asked them if they could quickly top the tree, and I would haul off the branches. they wouldn't have had to move the truck. They could just swing the bucket. They said no. They then proceeded to load up and sit on the side of the street for 45 minutes before leaving. Postscript: About 5 months later, that tree rubbed through the insulation and caused the line to break. The power company had to come out and trim the tree and fix the line.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 27, 2013 03:25 AM (nj9sX)

58 9 Fox is pushing the Fat Man for 2016.

Gonna need a couple of locomotives for that job. Morning all, thanks for the news as always Vic.

I will not, under any circumstances, vote for fat man in 2016.

Posted by: Anthony L. at December 27, 2013 03:26 AM (34n6F)

59 Morning all. Paid my bills till Monday and I have a few more patients and then I am off all weekend. And the notice came out from Big Navy, I put on my new rank 01JAN14. Now I got to find a tailor

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2013 03:26 AM (t3UFN)

60 56 18>> Is this a temporary aberration or are people really going to Detroit to "tour the ruins"? The ruins of Detroit ought to be preserved and photographed, filmed and web-cam'd for everyone to see. It is prima facia evidence of the consequences of liberalism and cronyism. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 07:22 AM (60Vyp) Think of Detroit as it is now. A Great Lakes port, proximity to the iron ore fields, on the Canadian border with access to their oil via Keystone. If only we could declare it a free-enterprise zone with zero income taxes for a period of 15 years (and then cap it at a max flat 10% thereafter), and a non-federal regulatory zone and invite people to come, clean it up, rebuild it and bring manufacturing back. BOOM. If only, if only, if onlyÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:27 AM (olDqf)

61 The other "X" factor will be tuning out the inevitable propaganda from not just the MFM but the so-called "conservative pundits" like Will, Kraut, Rubin, Parker who will all want to push Kris Kreosote or Jeb on us.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 07:20 AM (olDqf)



Guaranteed that if you put Fat Fuck or Jebby in the White House we'll never get 404Care repealed.  Hell, with Ryan going full tilt RINO I think it's less than 50/50 it'll ever get done with full Repuke control of everything.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 27, 2013 03:27 AM (8Cg4b)

62 60>> CONGRATS!! *Salutes*

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 03:28 AM (60Vyp)

63 57 "Â…about the persecution of Christians during the reign of the emperor Nero." Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 07:24 AM (zF6Iw) Substitute Zero for Nero and it's 2013 AD.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:28 AM (olDqf)

64

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 07:08 AM (olDqf)

 

I love White Christmas; it's one of my favorite movies.  Fred Astaire was originally supposed to play the comic Phil Davis - the movie was supposed to be part of an unofficial trilogy consisting of Holiday Inn, Blue Skies and Christmas, but Astaire turned the script down (he also believed he was too old for the role) and it was offered to Donald O'Connor, who had to drop out before shooting began because of serious illness.

 

And if you watch Vera-Ellen, notice that she never wears any clothes that reveal her neck.  That's because she was an anorexic, and the studio had to hide the disease's ravages.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 03:30 AM (zF6Iw)

65

I have a nephew who is a UPS manager. While working for UPS is never fun at Christmastime, it was especially bad this year, because they were short-staffed. An ice storm in Texas really threw things off and managers from UPS facilities all over the country were sent to Texas to work as deliverymen for a few weeks. The bad weather in much of the country meant that many more people did their shopping online and UPS wasn't prepared for it. My nephew says everyone has been busting tail nonstop since Thanksgiving. The things I ordered online though Amazon Prime came in 2 days without a glitch - but I didn't wait until the last minute to order them.

 

I did not know that if a UPS driver ever gets into an accident while making deliveries and it is his fault, he's fired.It doesn't matter how long he's been with the company. UPS works its' employees very hard - but also compensates them very well.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 27, 2013 03:31 AM (R3gO3)

66 Fox and Friends does a supportive piece on keeping teenagers prisoners of state schools by denying them drivers privileges if they try to leave state custody before turning 18. How about letting them work?

Posted by: tmitsss at December 27, 2013 03:32 AM (Pa9vP)

67 I see Vera-Ellen's anorexia was mentioned.  That's what I get for commenting without reading.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 03:32 AM (zF6Iw)

68 Substitute Zero for Nero and it's 2013 AD.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 07:28 AM (olDqf)

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Where's our Claudette Colbert?

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 27, 2013 03:34 AM (KlVdw)

69 And if you watch Vera-Ellen, notice that she never wears any clothes that reveal her neck. That's because she was an anorexic, and the studio had to hide the disease's ravages.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

What does anorexia do to the neck?


Posted by: Bruce at December 27, 2013 03:34 AM (nZ561)

70 65 And if you watch Vera-Ellen, notice that she never wears any clothes that reveal her neck. That's because she was an anorexic, and the studio had to hide the disease's ravages. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 07:30 AM (zF6Iw) Yeah, we were talking about that earlier when Vic mentioned the Rockettes (Vera-Ellen started there when she was a teen). But those legs! Wow! Probably, or at least arguably, the best female dancer of the entire era, but overshadowed by Anne Miller and Ginger Rogers and Eleanor Powell (machine-gun tapper!).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:34 AM (olDqf)

71 62>> J.J. I have sometimes wondered if the lack of government in the area could be leveraged to make recolonization of the area profitable. To wit; there is a whole lot of cheap property with infrastructure in place to provide water and electric distribution, sewerage and roads. The amount of salvageable materials is plentiful. Wildlife control and predator (animal and human) abatement might be a challenge, but not insurmountable with organized effort and sufficient firepower.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 03:35 AM (60Vyp)

72 69 Where's our Claudette Colbert? Posted by: Darth Randall at December 27, 2013 07:34 AM (KlVdw) Meh. We'll get Stephen, and like it!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:35 AM (olDqf)

73 44 It's 25 degrees here in Alabama. And some ship is caught in ice near Antarctica. I thought all that ice was suppose to have melted? Posted by: Case at December 27, 2013 07:13 AM (wf3Kt) Silly, it's summer in Antarctica, that's why it's so cold. Jeez you knuckledragging red state boobs know nothing.

Posted by: center of the earth is millions of degrees at December 27, 2013 03:36 AM (T8H6k)

74 I did not know that if a UPS driver ever gets into an accident while making deliveries and it is his fault, he's fired.It doesn't matter how long he's been with the company. UPS works its' employees very hard - but also compensates them very well.
Posted by: Donna V.

This time of the year, I work extra hard to keep the driveway and sidewalk clear so the delivery drivers don't have to wade through snow on top of the driving with idiots they normally do.

Posted by: Bruce at December 27, 2013 03:36 AM (nZ561)

75 What does anorexia do to the neck?


Posted by: Bruce at December 27, 2013 07:34 AM (nZ561)



Upper chest and neck appear very bony. Basically people who suffer from this starve to death.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 03:38 AM (T2V/1)

76 72 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 07:35 AM (60Vyp) Well, once you start fixing the broken windows and defending yourself, the rest takes care of itself. It will also take a lot of cult deprogramming to retrain the youth of undetermined skin pigmentation to shake off the shackles of phony perpetual disenfranchisement and embrace Americanism. But it's all there. Forget about oil. Detroit - free of government and leftist influence - is a gold mine that can power America back for at least 100 years.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:38 AM (olDqf)

77 What does anorexia do to the neck?


Posted by: Bruce at December 27, 2013 07:34 AM (nZ561)

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No doubt it was very sunken in with the tendons popping out. Just look at her waist in any scene in the movie. There are a couple of shots with Danny Kaye's hand pressed up against her back and it is as large as her waist.

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Meh. We'll get Stephen, and like it!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 07:35 AM (olDqf

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I will not like it. I can't stand that tool.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 27, 2013 03:39 AM (KlVdw)

78 72  Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 07:35 AM (60Vyp)



From what I have been reading the idiots still have not learned their lesson.  Taxes are still through the roof, it's just that you get nothing for all those taxes.  They don't even run the street lights any more, much less the cops and fire fighters.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 03:40 AM (T2V/1)

79 "Obama's Top 10 Constitutional Violations of 2013"

Let that sink in for a minute. We truly live in Bizarro world.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 27, 2013 03:40 AM (gHDMy)

80 Mmmmm.   Claudette Colbert.   Mmmmm.  


I'm going to have to tape a note up at work to remind myself that it's Friday and not Monday.

Here's to hoping I actually do get some work done at work and that I don't strangle the one client who has been asked about thing X repeatedly over the last three years, including several times by me, and who insisted that nope thing X was not true and who revealed at 4:30 p.m. on Monday that okay yeah sure fine thing X is totally true.   Arrrrgggghhh.  

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at December 27, 2013 03:41 AM (Gk3SS)

81 78 Posted by: Darth Randall at December 27, 2013 07:39 AM (KlVdw) When you look at Rosemary Clooney in that film, she looks like Kate Smith compared to Vera-Ellen. (yes, I know Rosie ballooned up, but that was much later). The latter is almost the same proportions as a life-sized Barbie Doll! She had the smallest waist of any actress.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:41 AM (olDqf)

82 It is said that her waist size was only 17 inches.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 03:43 AM (T2V/1)

83 80 "Obama's Top 10 Constitutional Violations of 2013" Let that sink in for a minute. We truly live in Bizarro world. Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 27, 2013 07:40 AM (gHDMy) How many are on the list after 10?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:43 AM (olDqf)

84 79 72 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 07:35 AM (60Vyp)

All of those taxes are paying retired city employees to sit on their asses. I understand about obligations and deals made, but what confuses me is people who will happily enslave their children so they don't have to be inconvenienced.

Posted by: Anthony L. at December 27, 2013 03:44 AM (34n6F)

85 83 It is said that her waist size was only 17 inches. Posted by: Vic at December 27, 2013 07:43 AM (T2V/1) True. And she maintained that size almost her whole life. What a waste. (no pun)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:44 AM (olDqf)

86 When you look at Rosemary Clooney in that film, she looks like Kate Smith compared to Vera-Ellen. (yes, I know Rosie ballooned up, but that was much later).

The latter is almost the same proportions as a life-sized Barbie Doll! She had the smallest waist of any actress.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 07:41 AM (olDqf)

---------

 

Yep, it's sad because like you said, Vera-Ellen was a heck of a good dancer.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 27, 2013 03:44 AM (KlVdw)

87

Rosemary Clooney recalled that, although Vera-Ellen was polite to her, the two weren't close during the filming of White Christmas, mainly because Clooney couldn't dance.  But the film was the start of her lifelong friendship with Bing Crosby, who had suggested her for the part of Betty Haynes.  It's uncertai whether Crosby had heard Clooney sing or had merely seen her, but suggested to Paramount that she would make a good partner.

 

The two would later record an album together, with arrangements by the great Billy May - Fancy Meeting You Here.  I highly recommend it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 03:45 AM (zF6Iw)

88 80 "Obama's Top 10 Constitutional Violations of 2013"

Let that sink in for a minute. We truly live in Bizarro world.
Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 27, 2013 07:40 AM (gHDMy)


How many are on the list after 10?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 07:43 AM (olDqf)



That Forbes website is as annoying as Steve Forbes' dickhole mannerisms but there's plenty of good stuff there if you're willing to endure it.  The writer said that there were many many others, mostly related to 404Care.  We are truly in a post Constitutional time with a gutless Congress hiding in the corner.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 27, 2013 03:47 AM (8Cg4b)

89 Hi horde, my name is traye and I have an addiction. Yesterday was a full day of just daddy traye and little two year old traye, no mommy no daycare just us. He learned how to hold a pen properly and count backwards from ten, I think if we had week together I could get him to integrals and derivatives. I am 45, and never knew I would ever be so dedicated to other person. Greatest thing. AoS is ten years old, why you morons not say fatherhood is greatest thing ever.

Posted by: traye at December 27, 2013 03:48 AM (T8H6k)

90 Well I am heading out folks.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 27, 2013 03:48 AM (T2V/1)

91 88 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 07:45 AM (zF6Iw) Yeah, the camera tends to focus mostly on Vera than Rosie in the dance sequences for sure. But she could pull it off when she had to in wider shots. And Danny Kaye. Just an overall talent and he more than held his own with Vera when they danced.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:49 AM (olDqf)

92

(yes, I know Rosie ballooned up, but that was much later).

 

And don't forget her mental crackup after her  affair with Nelson Riddle and  divorce from Jose Ferrer.  You can tell the difference in the timbre of her voice pre- and post-Ferrer.  I prefer her early period, with Rosie Solves the Swinging Riddle my favorite album

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 03:49 AM (zF6Iw)

93 Detroit is a unique opportunity to showcase what a true free market could do. You would need to find a way to excise the colony from the vestiges of whatever city/county government authority remains.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 03:50 AM (60Vyp)

94 Johannes Kepler ("I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses.") The anti-SCOAMF.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:51 AM (olDqf)

95 I read a comments thread about the Robertson kerfuffle at Althouse last night and it reminded me of why I find Althouse so grating. She claims to want a "dialog" but then becomes annoyed with her commentators if they disagree with her POV. They're misreading her, they don't understand what she wrote, etc...It doesn't seem to dawn on her that maybe her commentators understand her completely and disagree with her. Many of the conservative ones are brighter and more interesting than she is. They are the only reason, really, to spend any time at that blog.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 27, 2013 03:51 AM (R3gO3)

96 94 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 07:49 AM (zF6Iw) Like listening to Billie Holiday sing "G-d Bless the Child" and then listen to her on "You've Changed." Gevalt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:53 AM (olDqf)

97 oops - got my Knoplfers confused - I think David left the band before that song was recorded. Oh well.

Posted by: Gran at December 27, 2013 03:53 AM (mw0FO)

98

One of the most famous of all Dietrich pictures - as the cabaret dancer Lola-Lola in The Blue Angel:

 

http://tinyurl.com/lvmwe8k


 

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 03:53 AM (zF6Iw)

99 Idiot commie Senator from CN wants UPS to give refunds to people who Christmas packages were late. Piss on him. If you wait to the last minute to mail shit at Christmas it will be late. It always has and it always will be.

http://tinyurl.com/pdkf3sc

Posted by: Vic at December 27, 2013 06:53 AM (T2V/1)

I haven't had a single problem with UPS recently at home or work. Hell, I ordered a new pressure washer Sunday, and it was delivered yesterday right on time.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 27, 2013 07:12 AM (nj9sX)


I saw a story yesterday about UPS delivering packages on Christmas Day. Did Senator Busy Body mention that? Nevermind that those who paid UPS for their service don't need his help. They're perfectly able to take it up with UPS on their own.

Posted by: Retread at December 27, 2013 03:53 AM (cHwk5)

100 Althouse voted for obama. All you need to know. (Oh no, you misunderstand, I only voted for him to make the democrats own foreign policy) Um hmm!!

Posted by: traye at December 27, 2013 03:54 AM (T8H6k)

101

I read a comments thread about the Robertson kerfuffle at Althouse last night and it reminded me of why I find Althouse so grating.

 

She's a classic passive-aggressive type.  Utterly insufferable.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 03:55 AM (zF6Iw)

102 101 Posted by: Retread at December 27, 2013 07:53 AM (cHwk5) Who, Dick "Weed" Blumenthal?! Oh, fuck him. How about the USPS which just raised it's stamp prices to 49 cents? Incompetent, inept, wasteful, uncaring, bloated and nearly obsolescent is no way to go through life - if it's the private sector.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 03:57 AM (olDqf)

103 And I agree about her commenters. Some really informed conservative ones there, (not like here where we just foam at the mouth) and some dim bulb progressives (but aren't they all).

Posted by: traye at December 27, 2013 03:57 AM (T8H6k)

104 Is this thing on?

Posted by: traye at December 27, 2013 04:01 AM (T8H6k)

105 The best thing about talking to myself is I already know all the answers.

Posted by: traye at December 27, 2013 04:02 AM (T8H6k)

106 Zombie apocalypse?? It's been six minutes. I am going to board up.

Posted by: traye at December 27, 2013 04:03 AM (T8H6k)

107 Go awaye traye

Posted by: Okaye? at December 27, 2013 04:04 AM (bS6uW)

108 There's a particular scene in White Christmas that always cracks me up.  Danny Kaye and Vera-Ellen  are discussing  the fact that her older sister won't get involved with any man  because she feels the need to protect her younger sister.

So the comely Ms. Ellen (or however you would  write her name) very strongly starts to suggest that she and Mr. Kaye hook up, so as to give her sister  the freedom to pursue her relationship with Mr. Crosby.

Well, Mr. Kaye is having none of that!  He behaves like someone who has no idea  what to do with a woman... which of course he didn't. 

What I'm wondering is, since I'm  sure it was an open secret that Mr. Kaye was gay,  did they have a ball with that scene, or was it an open joke at his expense?  I mean, I'm sure the audience was unaware of it, and since  it was played for laughs, I guess it works.

For me though, I'm watching it and thinking "lady, you're wasting your time!" 

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2013 04:04 AM (BeSEI)

109 @107 Very well, answer me these questions three! What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color?

Posted by: The Bridgekeeper at December 27, 2013 04:05 AM (mw0FO)

110 I waited too late to order stuff so my kids had to settle for a bucket of sand and some twigs I picked up in yhe back yard and wrapped as presents. I am soooo mad at Amazon and UPS. Oh, wait a minute. That didn't happen. When I realized that delivery tolerances were tight and it's freakin' Christmas I got in my personal internal combustion machine and drive to places where humans would sell me objects. Christmas was saved!

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at December 27, 2013 04:07 AM (1xUj/)

111 Idiot commie Senator from CN wants UPS to give refunds to people who Christmas packages were late. How about the same terms for the USPS? Yeah, didn't think so.

Posted by: --- at December 27, 2013 04:09 AM (MMC8r)

112 Oh, wait a minute. That didn't happen. When I realized that delivery tolerances were tight and it's freakin' Christmas I got in my personal internal combustion machine and drive to places where humans would sell me objects.

Christmas was saved!

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at December 27, 2013 08:07 AM (1xUj/)

---------

 

That's just crazy talk.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 27, 2013 04:10 AM (KlVdw)

113 113 -

Christmas is like elections: people tend to get the results they deserve.

For me, I can't stand being around all the 52%ers you find in shopping malls and other assorted places this time of year, so I order everything online.  Here's the thing though, I DO IT SEVERAL DAYS IN ADVANCE!

Thus, Christmas is hassle and worry free.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2013 04:11 AM (BeSEI)

114 114 Posted by: --- at December 27, 2013 08:09 AM (MMC8r) See me at #104.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 04:11 AM (olDqf)

115 The world seems like a quieter, better place when Obama is gone.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 27, 2013 04:12 AM (bS6uW)

116 Anyone here still shave with a straight razor? I need a recommendation for a place that could hone one and replace a cracked scale.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 04:12 AM (60Vyp)

117

**mulls over tea and molasses cookies**

 

Another day just like yesterday.  No one in the office and barely enough work to justify coming in.  Looks like I'll be taking an early and long lunch . . .

 

C'mon, Horde, entertain me!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 04:13 AM (zF6Iw)

118 Morning all. I really hope I can talk a cob into putting up a disaster prep thread on a weekend or two. I'm trying to be more prepared for stuff, but there's always more to think about. Like getting a gas powered chainsaw since any storm that would take down branches would probably take out the power. (most of the neighborhood has buried cables--I looked for that!!!!--but behind our house has 'em on poles. And it's only a couple dozen houses at most, so they fix other problems first. Took 30 hours to get power back during the worst storm. Across the street, at least 12 hours sooner.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2013 04:14 AM (SUKHu)

119 Speaking of Olds 455s our 1976 GMC motorhome has one. Tornado front wheel drivetrain. It's pretty funny to see it smoking the front tires off the line.

Posted by: freaked at December 27, 2013 04:15 AM (lwGXq)

120 111 Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2013 08:04 AM (BeSEI) Not sure if Danny was a bust-out homo (married and had kids) but certainly bi. That said, it's hard to picture Laurence Olivier boning him when he had Vivien LeighÂ… or at least John Gielgud. But Kaye played it fay all the way. (see the routine where he and Bing lip-synch to "Sisters").

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 04:15 AM (olDqf)

121 120 C'mon, Horde, entertain me! Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 08:13 AM (zF6Iw) You want I should imitate Tommy DeSimone?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 04:16 AM (olDqf)

122 >>I waited too late to order stuff so my kids had to settle for a bucket of sand and some twigs I picked up in yhe back yard and wrapped as presents. I am soooo mad at Amazon and UPS. LOL. I ordered one thing last minute and paid for the quickness...didn't work. I imported soft pretzels from Philly for my guy. Kinda hard to hide them and keep them either fresh or frozen, so yeh, I waited. Both packages arrived Thursday, not Tuesday. But if I'd ordered the pretzels sooner, they would have spent the weekend in transit.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2013 04:18 AM (SUKHu)

123 Chive on MP3

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 04:19 AM (60Vyp)

124

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 08:15 AM (olDqf)

 

Remember the old saying, "don't fuck crazy?"  Leigh was bust-out crazy.

 

And speaking of bust outs - Suzanne Pleshette:

 

http://tinyurl.com/qhc9dy6


 

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 04:20 AM (zF6Iw)

125 >>I imported soft pretzels from Philly for my guy. Kinda hard to hide them and keep them either fresh or frozen, so yeh, I waited. What? If I'd ordered them earlier: I could have hidden them, but then they wouldn't have been as fresh. Or I could have frozen them, but then they wouldn't have been hidden. Clearly, I need a bigger freezer for the hiding of things.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2013 04:20 AM (SUKHu)

126

Obama's Top 10 Constitutional Violations of 2013 last week.


fixed

Posted by: crisis du jour at December 27, 2013 04:22 AM (J1eJz)

127 I wouldn't go deciding that some deceased actor was homosexual or not depending on posthumous rumor and/or supposed effeminacy. See: Tony Randall, or Jonathan Harris...

Posted by: --- at December 27, 2013 04:22 AM (MMC8r)

128 129 If you hate me now, just wait until 2016! Posted by: The Portly Politician from Passaic at December 27, 2013 08:20 AM (ymdAS) CHRIS CHRISTIE ANNOUNCES HE WILL RUN IN 2016! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXH_12QWWg8

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 04:24 AM (olDqf)

129 Good morning. My wife lost a diamond out of her engagement ring yesterday. Not that big a deal to me, except The ring was from the 1920s and belonged to my grandmother. She is really upset.Anybody know how much little diamonds go for?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at December 27, 2013 04:24 AM (rSuZe)

130 127 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 08:20 AM (zF6Iw) She became good friends with Steve McQueen after they did "Nevada Smith."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 04:26 AM (olDqf)

131 Anybody know how much little diamonds go for? Anywhere from practically free to an assload. Were you spared the four-c's education since your wife has your grandmother's ring?

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 27, 2013 04:27 AM (V3kRK)

132 133 She is really upset.Anybody know how much little diamonds go for? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at December 27, 2013 08:24 AM (rSuZe) Speaking of Laurence OlivierÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 04:27 AM (olDqf)

133 Oh brother. How did I get the first spot in the parking garage?? Slowwwwww day ahead.

Posted by: RWC at December 27, 2013 04:27 AM (fWAjv)

134 I did not know that if a UPS driver ever gets into an accident while making deliveries and it is his fault, he's fired.It doesn't matter how long he's been with the company. UPS works its' employees very hard - but also compensates them very well. Posted by: Donna V. at December 27, 2013 07:31 AM (R3gO3) Something I learned recently was that the FedEx Ground guys don't work for FedEx. When FedEx got into the ground business, they bought RPS. RPS always had contracted drivers, so FedEx stayed with it. The drivers like it because they can bid on as many routes as they think they can handle. The more you are willing to do, the more you get paid. Hey. That sounds like capitalism.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 27, 2013 04:27 AM (nj9sX)

135 Anybody know how much little diamonds go for? Depends a lot on where you get them, at least according to the radio ads for one of the local pawn/jewelers shops....

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 27, 2013 04:28 AM (N3yqm)

136 "The ring was from the 1920s and belonged to my grandmother. She is really upset. Anybody know how much little diamonds go for?" It's cute how you think that you'll even have a choice on what to spend. You'll spend whatever it takes if you know what's good for you.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 04:28 AM (60Vyp)

137 Kris Kreosote is the physical embodiment of the Federal government. Bloated, corrupt and self-inflatingÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 04:29 AM (olDqf)

138 Good Morning. I learn something almost every day here. I did not know that Vera Ellen was an anorexic & had a 17 inch waist.

Posted by: Carol at December 27, 2013 04:30 AM (z4WKX)

139 When Jesus was asked by his mom, there was wine. It wasn't the cheap stuff. They say it was fine. We know that his wine met the quality test, For the host of the feast Declared it the best. Happy 3rd Day of Christmas If you think wishing Merry Christmas upsets the enemy, try keeping it up 'til Jan 6 - when even true believers will punch you for it.

Posted by: mindful webworker - got French Hens? at December 27, 2013 04:30 AM (izPgb)

140 133 -

Calculate how many more years you plan on staying with this woman, then put four zeros  behind that. 

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2013 04:30 AM (BeSEI)

141

"The ring was from the 1920s and
belonged to my grandmother. She is really upset. Anybody know how much little diamonds go for?"

 

Well, the first thing is to take it to a jeweler and have the carat size determined.  Once that's done, you can begin shopping around for price.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 04:30 AM (zF6Iw)

142 142 Good Morning. I learn something almost every day here. I did not know that Vera Ellen was an anorexic & had a 17 inch waist. Posted by: Carol at December 27, 2013 08:30 AM (z4WKX) You's wants ejukayshin? You's comes here!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 04:31 AM (olDqf)

143 oops - got my Knoplfers confused - I think David left the band before that song was recorded. Oh well. Posted by: Gran at December 27, 2013 07:53 AM (mw0FO) I think he left between Communique and that EP.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 27, 2013 04:31 AM (nj9sX)

144

"You'll spend whatever it takes if you know what's good for you."

Ain't that the truth.

If you have a homeowners insurance policy it may help you out.

Posted by: Case at December 27, 2013 04:33 AM (wf3Kt)

145 Well, my coffee has reached the Sgt. Yemana/.50 cents a slice stage, so I better get to work. Web copy re-write. It's a paying gig so I can't really screw around too much. Later kids. Will check in at the dump.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2013 04:34 AM (olDqf)

146 I hope that TFGCare obliterates the JEFÂ’s ratings for the rest of his presidency. It would please me if he had 4% of the peopleÂ’s trust and is the lowest rated president in history. We know heÂ’s exceeded Jimmy Carter as far as bad ones in recent times. Who used to be the worst one? He should be made to pay for his overstepping the Constitution but we have a Congress with no balls.

Posted by: Carol at December 27, 2013 04:35 AM (z4WKX)

147

>>What they won't mention about the NE ice storm blackouts?

The majority of the problem is that the electrical grid infrastructure in the NE is over loaded out of date and badly in need of repairs.

This has been brought about over the years by NIMBY and eco freaks fighting tooth and nail every upgrade and add on that the electric companies have tried to bring in.

As a result in CT in Stamford a large and fairly modern city in one of the richest counties in the US has more than it's share of blackouts and brown outs due to equipment failure.

And as each year goes by the potential cost of upgrading the equipment rises exponentially.

I live there 18 yrs and at least twice a year we would lose power.
.

.

.We lived in Connecticut for 15 years and power outages were extremely common.  Often times we would get a black out for an hour or so during the day for no apparent reason.  We wouldn't know about them until we got home from work and the clocks on the stove and microwave were blinking.  Very odd and about a weekly occurrence during the summer months.

Posted by: Registered Voter at December 27, 2013 04:35 AM (nUbHY)

148 ...are people really going to Detroit to "tour the ruins"? http://tinyurl.com/obb26zc... -Vic Make it real. Interactive. Organize tour hijackings.

Posted by: mindful webworker - got French Hens? at December 27, 2013 04:36 AM (5SlKF)

149 The world seems like a quieter, better place when Obama is gone. Posted by: Blacksheep

It's like when  your whiny dumbasshit do nothing boss takes a vacation. Stuff gets done the way it's supposed to, and in record time

Posted by: Bruce at December 27, 2013 04:36 AM (nZ561)

150 *dances for MP4's amusement* Good morning. My wife lost a diamond out of her engagement ring yesterday. Not that big a deal to me, except The ring was from the 1920s and belonged to my grandmother. She is really upset.Anybody know how much little diamonds go for? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at December 27, 2013 08:24 AM (rSuZe) How little? Having been through this issue with a ring of my own, I will bet that the setting is coming loose so that will have to be fixed or it will just keep happening. So setting getting fixed and a new chip could be $80. Could be $800. If you don't know a good jeweler, ask around. You should be able to find someone who will do it for a reasonable amount of money. Horde! My day just got a whole lot better since in the bottom of my purse I just found the $20 that I was certain I had lost. It's a Saturnalia miracle!

Posted by: alexthechick - Become a STOMPY charter member today! at December 27, 2013 04:36 AM (VtjlW)

151 144 -

Sorry,  that was supposed to be "put three zeros behind it."

Four, what am I, Mr. Moneypants? 

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2013 04:37 AM (BeSEI)

152 There is no proof that Kay was gay or bi. If anything, he was a raging hetereo. http://goo.gl/cwCNAK Seriously, this gay shit gets old.

Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at December 27, 2013 04:37 AM (Qev5V)

153 Very odd and about a weekly occurrence during the summer months. If it happened on really hot days, that sounds like rolling blackouts.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 27, 2013 04:38 AM (V3kRK)

154 Israel announces settlement homes; Palestinians irate ??? When aren't the palis Irate?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2013 04:39 AM (t3UFN)

155 1,114 to Inauguration Day 2017 o joy Lord! Have Mercy! Save us!

Posted by: mindful webworker - got French Hens? at December 27, 2013 04:40 AM (5SlKF)

156 Egyptian police arrested dozens more Muslim Brotherhood supporters and deployed across Cairo before Friday prayers, as the government anticipated further protests from the Islamist movement despite having clamped down on dissent. Security sources said 32 Brotherhood supporters were held in a second wave of arrests since Wednesday, when the government designated the group a terrorist organization. (Reuters) Remember these are obama's bestest friends. Any comment from the White House or State?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2013 04:40 AM (t3UFN)

157 Now now people. My wife is very practical. She suggested replacing it with a cubic zircreonium or now The ring was appraised at about eight or nine hundred several years ago, so I know it's not going to be that much. Each diamond is about to millimeters across the top. This is up there with when the chicken tore off my wedding ring.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at December 27, 2013 04:41 AM (vBJXz)

158 Posted by: Mary PoppinsÂ’ Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 08:13 AM (zF6Iw) Morning, MPPPP, more than half our office is out but IÂ’m extremely busy. I wish I could stay home today. I canÂ’t. I have fallen asleep while reading here every night this week. I donÂ’t know if itÂ’s from still being slightly sick or if itÂ’s from high blood pressure pills. I suddenly developed HBP early this month. I only take one pill a day and when I go to sleep. But since I havenÂ’t gone to sleep one night this week, but fell asleep. I end up taking it when I wake upon the middle of the might in pain.

Posted by: Carol at December 27, 2013 04:41 AM (z4WKX)

159 The Comcast tech will be at my home in a few minutes to install the 100mps service upgrade. Pretty quick download for being in the sticks.

Posted by: jwest at December 27, 2013 04:43 AM (u2a4R)

160

There is no proof that Kay was gay or bi. If anything, he was a raging hetereo.

http://goo.gl/cwCNAK

Seriously, this gay shit gets old.

 

Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at December 27, 2013 08:37 AM (Qev5V)

 

Yes, it does.  Obviously, the acting art has a higher percentage of gays than other endeavors, but unless the actor's sexuality is an absolute - Rock Hudson's gayness or Lilyan Tashman's lesbianism - then scepticism is always warranted, especially if an author promises "new, shocking revelations."

 

I can't tell you how many people I've met who take Kenneth Anger's Hollywood Babylon books as gospel truth.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 04:43 AM (zF6Iw)

161 157 Very odd and about a weekly occurrence during the summer months. If it happened on really hot days, that sounds like rolling blackouts. If it happened in Hanoi, that sounds like rolling thunder.

Posted by: Gran at December 27, 2013 04:44 AM (mw0FO)

162 When aren't the palis Irate?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2013 08:39 AM (t3UFN)

WHEN WE BATHE IN THE BLOOD OF ZIONIST BABIES!

Posted by: Irate Palis at December 27, 2013 04:44 AM (QFxY5)

163

Thank you for the dance, Imperial One.  Worthy of an Orion slave girl.

 

Carol, I'm sorry you're sick.  **pours hot cup of tea through USB port**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 04:45 AM (zF6Iw)

164 This is up there with when the chicken tore off my wedding ring.

 

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at December 27, 2013 08:41 AM (vBJXz)

 

After what I've been through, you're lucky that's all I tore off.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 27, 2013 04:46 AM (zF6Iw)

165 ah Gabe those fewer covered will have better inferior coverage than the old substandard inferior coverage they had....


here at Crazy Barry's Used Catastrophic Barn we sell Catastrophic Plans at Comprehensive prices!

Posted by: sven10077 at December 27, 2013 04:47 AM (9jfyN)

166 Ah man I missed the Chicken window.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2013 04:48 AM (SUKHu)

167 Posted by: sven10077 at December 27, 2013 08:47 AM (9jfyN)

And you know what you want, but Crazy Barry knows what you need]/u]!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 27, 2013 04:49 AM (o3MSL)

168

>>If it happened on really hot days, that sounds like rolling blackouts.

If it happened in Hanoi, that sounds like rolling thunder.
.

.

.Unless they were getting cute, they were not supposed to do rolling blackouts.  They could only do them for businesses that had signed on to an agreement for that to get a reduction in their fees. 

 

They were just random from what I remember, not tied to any particular hot days or stretch of days.  IMO just a sign of the grid getting extremely old and not maintained.  We found that out quick when we had tropical storms hit twice in back to back years in 2011 and 2012.  Power was out over a week both times.

Posted by: Registered Voter at December 27, 2013 04:49 AM (nUbHY)

169 I saw Blood Of Zionist Babies open for Roger Waters at Wembley in '07.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 27, 2013 04:50 AM (zF6Iw)

170 Whoops.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 04:50 AM (zF6Iw)

171 17 The Chamber of Commerce plans to spend $50M supporting establishment Republican Party members against conservative challengers in the primaries. So if you have been giving money to the chamber of commerce, quit.


http://tinyurl.com/mjxgu7m Posted by: Vic

Back when I had stores and businesses I regarded the CC as "the enemy." Why? Because they solicited competitors to me to locate in my area. Fat cats, all. Certainly no friends of small, local stores.

Posted by: backhoe at December 27, 2013 04:51 AM (ULH4o)

172 WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has told Vista volunteers and other AmeriCorps workers that their government-provided health coverage does not measure up to the standards of the new health care law, and that they may be subject to financial penalties unless they obtain insurance elsewhere.

The notice has surprised and worried workers in AmeriCorps, the federal community service program that is often described as a domestic version of the Peace Corps.

... damn those purveyors of sub-standard insurance benefits

Posted by: Dr. Josef Mengele at December 27, 2013 04:52 AM (e8kgV)

173 I wouldn't go deciding that some deceased actor was homosexual or not depending on posthumous rumor and/or supposed effeminacy. See: Tony Randall, or Jonathan Harris...

Posted by: --- at December 27, 2013 08:22 AM (MMC8r)

-------------

You know Jonathan Harris wasn't gay?

 

Jonathan Harris: "Oh the pain, oh the PAIINNNNNN."

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 27, 2013 04:52 AM (Zswg6)

174 Certainly no friends of small, local stores.

Posted by: backhoe at December 27, 2013 08:51 AM (ULH4o)


Just like politicians, COC knows small mom and pop operations will never pony up big bucks contributions, and citizens never contribute to them so...

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 27, 2013 04:54 AM (o3MSL)

175 >>They were just random from what I remember, not tied to any particular hot days or stretch of days. IMO just a sign of the grid getting extremely old and not maintained. We found that out quick when we had tropical storms hit twice in back to back years in 2011 and 2012. Power was out over a week both times. I live in RI and the problem is getting pretty acute. I was considering getting a permanent generator and spoke to my electrician in November about scheduling a time he could come give me a quote. He said he couldn't even get to my place for a quote until late January and no way he could do an install until the spring. My electrician is the locally certified Generac company. In 2012 he said they did less than 300 generators and in 2013 they did over 2000. The electrical grid in this country is a huge, mostly ignored problem.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2013 04:56 AM (g1DWB)

176 "There is no proof that Kay was gay or bi. If anything, he was a raging hetereo. http://goo.gl/cwCNAK Seriously, this gay shit gets old." FWIW, you don't gain much, if any credibility using Wikipedia as a source.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 04:56 AM (60Vyp)

177 Carol, I'm sorry you're sick. **pours hot cup of tea through USB port** Offer to run the Obamacare website coming in 3...2...1...

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 27, 2013 04:56 AM (659DL)

178 Greetin's and salutations, pixel people. Woke up feeling like shit this morning, called in to work. Am currently drinking coffee with Frangelico and Reddi Whip (for purely medicinal purposes, you understand.) A Happy and Merry Post Christmas Day to everyone.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 27, 2013 04:56 AM (0HooB)

179 The bad-weather power outages in New England are mostly due to the fact that we have TREES. I realize that's hard for some to understand...

Posted by: Caliban at December 27, 2013 04:57 AM (DrC22)

180 Now that Barky's 404Care has eliminated all those nasty old substandard inferior health insurance plans, I wonder why our streets were not stacked with the sick, dying, and dead for decades before he came on the scene to save us?

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 27, 2013 04:57 AM (o3MSL)

181 Johannes Kepler ("I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses.")

--

I much prefer the thoughtless approval of the masses to the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man.    -- Barack Obama

(Yeah, it was obvious but I just had to state it.)

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 27, 2013 04:57 AM (Oa7B2)

182 The electrical grid in this country is a huge, mostly ignored problem. If one had been inclined to do actual stimulus spending...

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 27, 2013 04:57 AM (659DL)

183 You know why Jonathan Harris wasn't gay?

Jonathan Harris: "Oh the pain, oh the PAIINNNNNN."

 

 

Fixed that for me.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 27, 2013 04:59 AM (Zswg6)

184 184 Hrothgar at December 27, 2013 08:57 AM (o3MSL)

B/C we used ERs as primary care facilities driving up costs so Crazy Barry is not going to allow the uninsured to use ERs!

Crazy Barry will control costs by controlling YOU comrade.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 27, 2013 04:59 AM (9jfyN)

185 The electrical grid in this country is a huge, mostly ignored problem.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2013 08:56 AM (g1DWB)


Soon the US will have an electrical distribution system worthy of Iraq, Zimbabwe, or Venezuela.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 27, 2013 04:59 AM (o3MSL)

186 I can't stay but vis s vis Popehat's article I think it is naive to say companies like A&E make decisions based on market principles or that the market decides if decisions are good. Our govt today, and this Administration in particular, interferes with the market so much that companies make decisions with the understanding that Big Brother is watching snd waiting to reward or punished. So imho that's why Robertson's defenders are reacting the way they are and why invoking the First Amendment is not complete bullshit (or sloppy thinking). Free speech IS under attack in this country. All you have to do is look at the IRS scandal. Popehat cones off as chiding and naive. I think he's sick of the brouhaha and/or embarrassed by it and wanted to tell socons to stfu in a way that appeared logical. But his logical argument ignores reality.

Posted by: Y-not waiting for the Truce at December 27, 2013 04:59 AM (zDsvJ)

187 186 Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 27, 2013 08:57 AM (659DL)

The Horde could do the "Thirteen Days of Infrastructure Doom!" starting on New Years....

here's one... "land lines"

Posted by: sven10077 at December 27, 2013 05:00 AM (9jfyN)

188 180 "There is no proof that Kay was gay or bi. If anything, he was a raging hetereo.

http://goo.gl/cwCNAK

Seriously, this gay shit gets old."

FWIW, you don't gain much, if any credibility using Wikipedia as a source. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

Agreed. Wiki is notoriously biased. OTOH they do give a lot of links to follow. I will use them as a "first read," but unless I get multiple confirmations of their info from other sources do not take them seriously.

Posted by: backhoe at December 27, 2013 05:00 AM (ULH4o)

189 Crazy Barry will control costs by controlling YOU comrade.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 27, 2013 08:59 AM (9jfyN)


And this time it will work, because finally the ones we have been waiting for are in charge!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 27, 2013 05:00 AM (o3MSL)

190

>>The bad-weather power outages in New England are mostly due to the fact that we have TREES. I realize that's hard for some to understand...

.

.

.Uh, we have trees here in Kentucky and we do not have the power outages I experienced in Connecticut.  And it should be worse as we get ice storms instead of the snow that most of New England gets.

Posted by: Registered Voter at December 27, 2013 05:01 AM (nUbHY)

191 Posted by: Y-not waiting for the Truce at December 27, 2013 08:59 AM (zDsvJ)

Nice little network you have there, it would be a shame if it ran afoul of an arbitrary regulation.

Posted by: Hrothgar FCC Commisioner at December 27, 2013 05:02 AM (o3MSL)

192 Right, right...

Trees are such a unique feature of New England...

you know Louisiana is at least honest that their grid sucks and that is why wind and rain can cause outages let alone Trees

A Charlie Brown Electrical Grid one supposes.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 27, 2013 05:03 AM (9jfyN)

193 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 27, 2013 08:56 AM (659DL) Thank you, I was sick last week and through this weekend. IÂ’m better but extremely tired. I donÂ’t know if IÂ’m tired from HBP pill or itÂ’s leftover from being sick. IÂ’m not sick now. I have fallen asleep reading ONT every night this week. One night it was after 7 pm.

Posted by: Carol at December 27, 2013 05:05 AM (z4WKX)

194 192>> Heh! A college professor I had told me she wouldn't even bother to read a paper if it had Wikipedia listed as a reference.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 05:06 AM (60Vyp)

195 A Charlie Brown Electrical Grid one supposes.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 27, 2013 09:03 AM (9jfyN)

 

Perhaps the dildo usage is what causes the blackouts.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 05:07 AM (zF6Iw)

196

Perhaps the dildo usage is what causes the blackouts.

 

Word.

Posted by: Hillary 'The Rod' Clinton at December 27, 2013 05:08 AM (BrQrN)

197 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 09:07 AM (zF6Iw)

I am a dildo! Not a vibrator!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2013 05:09 AM (QFxY5)

198 The huge storms that knock out power in Vermont, Maine, etc. used to be (probably still are) the source of major migratory employment for utility guys. The lines go through, across some of the most uninhabited places in the region. We got used to hearing all sorts of accents whenever the crews would show up to work. The Cape got slammed a couple years ago and they all showed up down there, trying in vain to order grits and sweet tea at the donut shop.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 27, 2013 05:09 AM (ECZYG)

199 Michelle Obama Industries presents-

The Devastator 5000 Happy Toy/Wall Remover use it as a jackhammer or a joystick

Posted by: sven10077 at December 27, 2013 05:10 AM (9jfyN)

200 Apropos of pretty much nothing, my new job has an office chair that, with a good launch, will nearly reach escape velocity. And it spins rather well, not that I'll be doing much of either as part of my duties. It's nice to know that the potential is there nonetheless. One must maintain a certain amount of decorum.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 27, 2013 05:11 AM (0HooB)

201 Every time I hear the name Wikipedia I picture some freak behind the bushes at a playground slammin' ham in nothin but a raincoat. It'a like with Twitter, these geniuses couldn't come up with a better name than that? Jeebus

Posted by: ontherocks at December 27, 2013 05:11 AM (6CUON)

202 198 192>> Heh! A college professor I had told me she wouldn't even bother to read a paper if it had Wikipedia listed as a reference.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

My late Mom- the old Sarge- always said "consider the source...."
It's funny how when you were young you thought your folks were "full of stuff" with their advice....
Then you grow up and get older-- and see how right they were about most everything they told you about....

Posted by: backhoe at December 27, 2013 05:12 AM (ULH4o)

203 205 ontherocks at December 27, 2013 09:11 AM (6CUON)

You should thank God for the typo it was originally twatter

Posted by: sven10077 at December 27, 2013 05:12 AM (9jfyN)

204 Just Googled Vera-Ellen and had forgotten she was in "On the Town." Can't stand that musical, Sinatra notwithstanding. Gay composer pens prancy score about hetero horndog sailors. Yay! Just like Aaron Copeland and his fay attempt to market himself as an "American" stylist, you know, muscular and all. Or Sondheim writing songs about "pretty" women. Hey, Stephen--guys don't really talk like that! Post-war New York: don't go there.

Posted by: Caliban at December 27, 2013 05:13 AM (DrC22)

205 The older your kids get, the wiser you become.

Posted by: Heywood Jablowme at December 27, 2013 05:14 AM (jsWA8)

206

You should thank God for the typo it was originally twatter

 

Actually, there were copyright issues

Posted by: Hairy Twatter and the Sorceror's Bone at December 27, 2013 05:14 AM (BrQrN)

207 Yo people in the boxes Uggggh I have training today at the office for the sony open players How about pick them up Take their money Get them out of the damn car Easy peasy

Posted by: Navypopojoe at December 27, 2013 05:14 AM (08XBV)

208 Newd

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 27, 2013 05:14 AM (0HooB)

209

[i[My late Mom- the old Sarge- always said "consider the source...."
It's funny how when you were young you thought your folks were "full of stuff" with their advice....
Then you grow up and get older-- and see how right they were about most everything they told you about....

Posted by: backhoe at December 27, 2013 09:12 AM (ULH4o)[/i]

 

 

 

"When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years."

 --  Mark Twain

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 27, 2013 05:15 AM (zF6Iw)

210 #90. You are so lucky, traye! Sorry we didn't mention it before. There is nothing, NOTHING! that can take the place of a loving Dad. You will have the most influence in his life, and you will teach him how to live and behave like a gentleman. God bless you for realizing what a gift you have been given. There is nothing sweeter than a little boy, but ya gotta have patience!

Posted by: 'Ette, in training but the bar is too damn high! at December 27, 2013 05:16 AM (zvxqj)

211 took me almost an hour to catch up to my own first comment of the day. :: starts reading faster... ::

Posted by: mindful webworker - got French Hens? at December 27, 2013 05:19 AM (izPgb)

212 Well it's daylight here and I gotta get something useful done so I can watch football tomorrow at the cigar shop. They rent lockers there so you can keep your favorite booze on hand, and their fresh stuff comes in today. Try not to wreck the place.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 05:21 AM (60Vyp)

213 You know Jonathan Harris wasn't gay? The 64-year marriage kind of clinched it for me, but you'd be surprised at how many people insist he was.

Posted by: --- at December 27, 2013 05:21 AM (MMC8r)

214 Too expensive unless doing it in new neighborhoods. Tree trimming will prevent it.

Posted by: Vic at December 27, 2013 07:09 AM (T2V/1)



Tree Trimming is sacrilege in CT...  When I go back for Christmas, I'm amazed at how overgrown it is, compared to 90's when I left and even more so than when I was a kid in the 70's.  Look up the old pictures from the 30's, and it is shocking.   Farmland has returned to forest.


The ecoturds have been blocking the highway from Hartford to Providence since the early 70's.  Finally the Feds gave up, changed what parts had been built from I-84 to I-384, and renamed I-86 from Hartford to the Mass-pike in Sturbridge to I-84....

Posted by: phreshone at December 27, 2013 05:29 AM (Pr6hk)

215 Regarding wiki, you weigh their assertions and check for them to be sourced and then check the sources. The wiki can be a wealth of info or not...

Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at December 27, 2013 05:31 AM (Qev5V)

216 198 192>> Heh! A college professor I had told me she wouldn't even bother to read a paper if it had Wikipedia listed as a reference. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2013 09:06 AM (60Vyp) No, one should cite the references within the wiki article. This reminds me of something I recently read. Back in the 40s or 50s they had hearings regarding the number of commies in education. Some of the testimony concerned a student having a paper returned by the stalinist prof, because the student cited a "Trotskyist."

Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at December 27, 2013 05:38 AM (Qev5V)

217 Most of the Northeast had no forest in the 19th century. It had all been cut down for heating fuel. Vast parts of CT and Mass were abandoned after the year of No Summer. In colonial times 95% of CT was under cultivation. It was the coming of the automobile to the cities, which put the hay farms out of business, that caused brush growth, reforestation, and the recovery of the white-tailed deer. Other people's financial devastation looks romantic in a Currier & Ives print.

I speak from experience. My grandfather's family "homesteaded" (read "squatted") an abandoned tract in NW CT. He left the hay farm to work as a hardwood lumberjack in Maine. The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 27, 2013 05:46 AM (xq1UY)

218 Piers Morgan getting hit with balls in an apparent wacka-doodle sport of some kind.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ePx61TkXKY

Posted by: ASK21 at December 27, 2013 06:17 AM (hppbQ)

219 MamaAJ,

I'd recommend a yahoogroup called PrepJr. They have some excellent information in the group files and can answer any prep question you might have. Yes, many of the group are Mormons, but anyone can join.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 27, 2013 07:58 AM (Lqy/e)

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