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March 01, 2013

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— Gabriel Malor

Happy Friday.

In light of the Woodward drama, Mike Riggs over at Reason recalls some of the Obama Administration's more ham-fisted attempts to pressure reporters for purposes of image management.

Christian Heinze has a characteristically insightful post on the GOP 2016 field. Read it and weep.

Sec. Napolitano says the sudden pre-sequestration release of aliens from ICE detention facilities took her as much by surprise as it did everyone else. This tendency to genuinely plead ignorance, by the way, is one of the true scandals of the Obama Administration.

The Obama folks have normalized a style of management wherein political appointees give vague directives and then get to plead ignorance when those vague policies are translated into dangerous and idiotic decisions by safely anonymous underlings. Of course Sec. Napolitano has no idea what's going on in her own detention facilities; she doesn't want to know. That's the scandal. Of course AG Holder didn't know his subordinates were selling guns to Mexican cartels; he didn't want to know. That's the scandal. Of course Sec. Clinton had no idea her own diplomats were begging for help because of Benghazi's security nightmare; she didn't want to know. That's the scandal.

Illinois GOP party chairman Pat Brady came out in in favor of gay marriage. And now gay marriage opponents want to oust him. This is a guy that got the IL GOP out of debt. He's raised $8 million for the party in a blue state. He's cut IL GOP administrative costs by 70% while upgrading their data center. Oh, and he did it all as a volunteer. But, please, let's get rid of effective Republicans for holding the same position on marriage as the last Republican vice president; that's a smart move.

And for a bit of Friday fun, here's Men's Health's latest list: "20 Habits That Make You Fat." Looks like I'll be saying "Adios" to my fat friends.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 02:50 AM | Comments (479)
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1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Friday, March 01, 2013. On this day in 1790 Congress authorized the first census. In those days we still followed the Constitution, which had just gone into effect, and the only thing the census did was count noses in a house for the purposes of representation in the House and the number of electors. Now, thanks to plentiful bribes they count everything so it can go into a database for people to target you in selling shit and campaigning for office.

Also on this day in 2012 Breitbart died. RIP BB we miss you.

http://is.gd/begrhu

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:51 AM (53z96)

2 Sometimes I wonder about Fox. They have reported several times that the Â“cutsÂ” are not really cuts, but here they are continuing the Â“cutÂ” hype. It reads like a press release from Obama. One thing I have noted, night shift and weekends contain the most liberal Obama ass kissing so maybe thatÂ’s it.

http://is.gd/aI9OXu

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:51 AM (53z96)

3 Note to Â“Mountain Men roughing it in the deep dark in Western NC and other places: DonÂ’t go on the Non-History channel showing your location and activities. A self-styled Â“Mountain ManÂ” who runs a camp and school for roughing it in the mountains of Western NC is being shutdown by county authorities because his buildings do not meet code. Yes, it seems they have building codes even in the deep wilderness. There is no freedom anywhere anymore. Authorities were alerted to his nefarious buildings when he appeared on the History Channel.

http://is.gd/aScrJx

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:52 AM (53z96)

4 Fox says Â“prominentÂ” conservatives line up in support of striking down CAÂ’s proposition 8. I canÂ’t watch the video without going around my elbow using a different browser but the only list I could find of these conservatives included a bunch of nobodies from CA that I had never heard of. Morons who can watch Fox imbedded videos look at this and see if there are any names that are (1) actual conservatives and (2) Prominent.

http://is.gd/Iq67L5

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:52 AM (53z96)

5 Fugly Napolitano now says she had nothing to do with the release of the illegals. Then I submit that she is either a liar or an incompetent boob. But hell, thatÂ’s everybody in the administration.

http://is.gd/ZqTZlU

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:52 AM (53z96)

6 MI governor may declare a Â“financial emergencyÂ” for Detroit. Looks to me like he is looking for ways to get even more federal money to bail out this broken down shit hole. If you really want to see how stupid the criminals running this city are look at this statement.

The financial review team's report given to Snyder said the accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2012, would have topped $900 million if Detroit leaders in recent years had not issued bonds to pay some of its bills.

They issued bonds pay bills which I assume are daily operating expenses. How are these bonds not Â“debtÂ”. All they did was trade the type of debt it is. And one wonders who bought these bonds. No sane investment manager would touch Detroit bonds. How much would you like to bet that those bonds were bought by the federal government just like they had been buying CAÂ’s worthless bonds? Note also that the authorized program for the feds buying city and State bonds expired over a year ago and has not been reauthorized. Also note that it is illegal here in SC to issue bonds for anything but capital expenses. I assume that most States that value fiscal prudence also have that.

http://is.gd/6baqk2

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:52 AM (53z96)

7 Morning all.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 02:53 AM (9Bj8R)

8 Is the History Channel going to make history and not only show some history but also give the bible and religion a fair shake? Ordinarily I would say not a chance but Roma Downey and her producer husband are doing this mini-series so there is a chance.

In a 10-part miniseries, airing on The History Channel beginning March 3, the couple told Fox they aimed to retell the stories of the Bible in a way that appeals to a young audience.

As they said, first show Mar 3 (this Sunday) at 8 pm

http://is.gd/m3sfdE

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:53 AM (53z96)

9 VA man arrested for following Biden advice of shooting shotgun through door.

http://is.gd/wrIkIF

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:53 AM (53z96)

10 CA Morons probably already know this but the already highest gas prices in the nation are about to go up some more. The socialist legislature has just voted to raise taxes again, this time on gas by another 3.5 cents/gallon.

http://is.gd/4wlL02

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:53 AM (53z96)

11 CO is trying to figure out how to tax pot now. Something I said would be very difficult given that the shit is so easy to grow.

http://is.gd/piUtQU

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:53 AM (53z96)

12 Another Soros buying up media outlets? This time gun magazines and outlets with the intention of shutting them down.

http://is.gd/Rss8Bv

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:54 AM (53z96)

13 Fugly Napolitano now says she had nothing to do with the release of the illegals. Then I submit that she is either a liar or an incompetent boob. But hell, thatÂ’s everybody in the administration. http://is.gd/ZqTZlU Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 06:52 AM (53z96) Nobody in this administration ever knos notin.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 02:54 AM (9Bj8R)

14 Matt Lewis at DC says Woodward Â“trolledÂ” us and there was no threat. Perhaps he should get some calls screaming at him for half and hour and saying Â“he will regret thisÂ” and see if he thinks it is a threat then. I have been becoming disenchanted with DC lately anyway and it seems that they are helping that along.

http://is.gd/ZefAuS

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:54 AM (53z96)

15 ICE says reports of director resigning due to illegals being let go are misleading and inaccurate. So Obama denies everything, Fugly denies everything, and I guess nobody will be held accountable. Hey maybe Issa will hold another hearing and blather with no action. Meanwhile the most lawless administration since Grant continues on its merry way.

http://is.gd/whMmfP

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:54 AM (53z96)

16 Yeah Uncle Jan knows the border is secure senor just ask her, but she has no f***ing idea what ICE is up to?

F***ing retards all of 'em

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 02:54 AM (LRFds)

17 There will be a 7 min worthless meeting with Obama today by Â“Congressional LeadersÂ” after the rest of congress has left town. Why did Republicans agree to go to this just so Obama can get some more press? Well they think they will get bad press if they didnÂ’t. Look stupids, you are going to get bad press no matter what you do. DonÂ’t feed the troll in the WH.

http://is.gd/g8KPGc

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:55 AM (53z96)

18 "Mr. Woodward, that's your accountant on line 2, returning your call on your upcoming audit".

Posted by: tony redenzo at March 01, 2013 02:55 AM (0KgIG)

19 A new study! I know you can hardly wait. So here it comesÂ…..

School administrators outnumber teachers! Is there anyone that didnÂ’t already know that?

http://is.gd/yu6dE5

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:55 AM (53z96)

20 ObamaÂ’s illegal NLRB has two lawyers working for it that are still getting paid by the unions. Why are not all of these fools in jail for ethics violations and contempt of court? I know, useless question. We need another hearing from Issa.

http://is.gd/Lk26j9

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:55 AM (53z96)

21 Then I submit that she is either a liar or an incompetent boob. Incompetent scrunt.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 01, 2013 02:55 AM (d0Dmj)

22 Yet another Â“green jobsÂ” solar company fat on government largess is about to go under. The business of any company that is subsidized is to get subsidies. That is the way it is, that is the way it has always been.

http://is.gd/gjaA1A

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:56 AM (53z96)

23 NOAA is now barring GAO and IGs from its meetings. This is clearly illegal but since the congress will do nothing to rein in this lawless administration even the government auditors have no authority. We saw that when the IG in CA was fired for blowing the whistle on crony corruption.

http://is.gd/8G0VVP

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:56 AM (53z96)

24 Interesting chart from IBD on Â“wage recessionÂ”. Keep in mind that these numbers in the comparison between 2001 and now are government numbers. It is probably much much worse than depicted here because you canÂ’t trust anything coming out of this administration.

http://is.gd/pM5411

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:56 AM (53z96)

25 ObamaÂ’s non-plan for avoiding sequester. It was so stupid even the press could not white-wash it so they just avoided mentioning it at all.

http://is.gd/TgJhMt

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:56 AM (53z96)

26 The Kindle Daily Deals

Note they have Terry GoodkindÂ’s first novel in the Sword of Truth series for $1.99. Previously it was free so I donÂ’t see how it is a Â“dealÂ”. The second book in the series is still free.

http://is.gd/qwN2Gp

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:57 AM (53z96)

27 Any word on Chavez yet?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2013 02:57 AM (coJww)

28 I will steal your souls stupid humans and sequester will not stop me.

http://is.gd/XgYTuK

And thatÂ’s it for Friday, March 01, 2013.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:57 AM (53z96)

29 so Gabe I am sorta at a loss here...

no seriously I respect the IL GOP honcho's performance but do you think maybe had he decided not to alienate the hardcore GOP in blue IL that had some ideological basis for not crossing over he might not be under fire?

Is this issue so vital it is worth alienating your caucus? Why are gays allowed their magical issue but we are supposed to stifle the pro-lifers? If the answer is the PR game the gays have benefited from donkey agitation on then when do other factions get to be the pretty pony?

If the goal is a world where being gay or an ally of the gays doesn't matter you'll have no bigger ally than me, if the goal is the GOP becoming GLAAD you'll have a rough time finding a bigger foe.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 02:58 AM (LRFds)

30 In light of the Woodward drama, Mike Riggs over at Reason recalls some of the Obama Administration's more ham-fisted attempts to pressure reporters for purposes of image management.

So Valerie "slum queen" Jarret T'd off on the ACLU. Why have we not seen this plastered all over the MFM?

I know, another useless question.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 02:59 AM (53z96)

31 Detroit the payday loans store of American cities.

Posted by: tony redenzo at March 01, 2013 02:59 AM (0KgIG)

32 2 Vic,

There's not a lot to worry about, they enjoy waving their wang in our face Vic. Fox's commentariat may lean right "sorta" but their news division is strictly moonbat.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 02:59 AM (LRFds)

33 Nobody in this administration ever knos notin. This isn't the Obama Administration. This is the Schultz Administration. The Sgt. Schultz Administration.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 01, 2013 03:00 AM (d0Dmj)

34 Henze, putting that up that 'Stay Puff Marshmallow' man, so early in the morning, disrupts my chi, as that character in 'Swordfish' put it.

Posted by: archie goodwin at March 01, 2013 03:00 AM (Jsiw/)

35 I never heard of Christian Heinze and looking at his blog I see he is a GOP leadership candidate.

Guess what, he can kiss my ass.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 03:01 AM (53z96)

36 Wow, I find myself visiting Ace before Drudge.

Posted by: tony redenzo at March 01, 2013 03:02 AM (0KgIG)

37 The Obama folks have normalized a style of management wherein political appointees......

I don't believe that, they are lying out their ass. In a sane world with justice everyone of these SOBs would be in jail and Obama would have been impeached no later than his second year in office.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 03:02 AM (53z96)

38 25 Vic,

I sorta imagine that John Boehner left town saying something like....

Yeah, yeah doom apocalypse oh no eleventy the kids the kids...look Brack I screwed the caucus once today already for the chicks...I'm getting drunk and going home...you keep on keeping on.

//Mirror Universe John Boner

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 03:03 AM (LRFds)

39 37 Vic,

I agree that is their excuse matrix not their management matrix.

Barky is a micromanaging asshole I assure you.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 03:04 AM (LRFds)

40 "Christian Heinze has a characteristically insightful post on the GOP 2016 field. Read it and weep." Seems to be a bad link. I'll try a search.

Posted by: backhoe at March 01, 2013 03:04 AM (ULH4o)

41 OK- here we go:

"Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!"

Or not...

Good morning Morons!

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 01, 2013 03:06 AM (RSqz2)

42 Is Rodman an American spy in N. Korea?

Posted by: tony redenzo at March 01, 2013 03:06 AM (0KgIG)

43 14 Vic,

Matt Lewis is the smug looking cockholster that was as useless as dogshit during the campaign yes?

Him saying there was no threat means there was...that's just how he rolls...

like a cube.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 03:07 AM (LRFds)

44 Good mornin rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 03:08 AM (l86i3)

45 Sven, Boner hasn't left town. He will be at the meeting with his pants down bent over a table waiting for Jarret's strap-on to service him while he cries and wants a cig.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 03:09 AM (53z96)

46 Illinois Republicans have about as much relevance as an ice cream truck in Antarctica, so I can't imagine getting worked up about it.

But then I'm not a one-issue guy, so.....

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2013 03:10 AM (BeSEI)

47 Beware the Ides of March!

Posted by: Case at March 01, 2013 03:11 AM (GxTMf)

48 41 Nighthawk,

it's the magic of numbers and the human mind...

took a coworker and his galpal out the other night, she's a nice enough kid and the wife and boy wanted some bison but she is as most disengaged college critters are these days agnostic/borderline liberal...

so the seuester came up she wanted to show she knew what was going on in the world I guess which is funny because he is apolitical....

"it sucks these deep cuts are hitting" so I asked her how much deficit spending there was last year...

"uh about a trillion?'

right dearie now work with me here....what portion of a trillion is 87 billion?

"uh less than 10%"

Yes now for it to be a 'cut" do you think Federal Spending as a whole should go up or down for the FY?

"Down"

yeah so given that this "horrid extinction level event cut is less than 1/80th of likely spending why are we sacrificing goats to the actuary gods again?

They *can* be taught but they need talked to

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 03:12 AM (LRFds)

49 Message to the GOP from the base....

WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE! STOP PUSHING IT!

And Christian Heinze looks like a total puff!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at March 01, 2013 03:13 AM (RrD4h)

50 45 Vic,

Vic I know he'll be at the Jimmy John's Photo-op version 2.0 but I'm pretty sure he likes a dive bar there in Arundel Mills unless I miss my guess....

"yeah bark...yeah yeah....I'm going to Jillians"

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 03:13 AM (LRFds)

51 44 OSP,

Guten Morgen mein fruend....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 03:13 AM (LRFds)

52 Anyone else notice that the Republicans who come out in favor of gay marriage to get 20 seconds of praise are often among the first to turn on conservatives when it's an issue that actually matters for another shot of that media adoration?

Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 03:13 AM (hpYnL)

53 :::They *can* be taught but they need talked to::: How were the tits?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 01, 2013 03:14 AM (JDIKC)

54 Anyone else notice that the Republicans who come out in favor of gay marriage to get 20 seconds of praise are often among the first to turn on conservatives when it's an issue that actually matters for another shot of that media adoration?

Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 07:13 AM (hpYnL)

Did you watch that Fox video I linked and see who these "prominent Republicans" were? I can't watch it.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 03:15 AM (53z96)

55 52 Mugiwara,

indeed....sort of what I said less elegantly...

yeah look wow the Gay Marriage guys are the prettty snow flake and I as a gunowner have to tolerate the GOP trying to nibble at my already existing liberty....?

*flush*

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 03:15 AM (LRFds)

56 53 EoJ,

eh not to my liking but I'm not in the market jeff....

how are you?

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 03:15 AM (LRFds)

57 And on the AGW front its 29Â° here on March 1, and not much warm weather at all as far out as they are predicting.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 03:17 AM (53z96)

58 Anyone else notice that the Republicans who come out in favor of gay marriage to get 20 seconds of praise are often among the first to turn on conservatives when it's an issue that actually matters for another shot of that media adoration? Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 07:13 AM (hpYnL) yep, I noticed that. Most of us don't want Gay marraige. But hey, those party invites keep right on a commin.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 03:17 AM (l86i3)

59 Hey, Skydiving from a B-17. Been there, done that. It costs $400. The Mrs. bout lost her shit. She got over it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 03:18 AM (l86i3)

60 Is Rodman an American spy in N. Korea?

Posted by: tony redenzo at March 01, 2013 07:06 AM (0KgIG)

Smart diplomacy!!

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 03:18 AM (AnRMP)

61 Pat Brady did some nice surgery, but left a forceps inside the patient. His bad.

Posted by: eman at March 01, 2013 03:18 AM (o3GHm)

62 The sequester got the poor bastard in FL via a sinkhole under his bedroom.

Posted by: NCKate at March 01, 2013 03:19 AM (4FeFx)

63 Is Rodman an American spy in N. Korea? He's actually far too intelligent to be part of anything in this Admin.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 03:19 AM (l86i3)

64 58 OSP,

we probably need to open up a distillery, "Moron Spirits" of course with that name the donks will think we have ted kennedy's ghost handy...

get some nice drug lords as non-attributable assets, set up a pipeline of slavic horizontal refreshment engineers....

I mean I have been BY a DC party before and to be frank I've had more fun from the looks of it on post...

unless of course the high is from screwing taxpayers...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 03:19 AM (LRFds)

65 There are two things that make you fat; eating too many calories and not offsetting those calories with exercise.

That problem is exacerbated as you get older.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 03:19 AM (53z96)

66 yep, I noticed that. Most of us don't want Gay marraige. But hey, those party invites keep right on a commin. Mine must have been lost by the post office.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 01, 2013 03:20 AM (d0Dmj)

67 unless of course the high is from screwing taxpayers... Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:19 AM (LRFds) They don't take pictures in the BDSM hooker and blow room.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 03:20 AM (l86i3)

68 I'm fine, Sven. No snow last night, so no shoveling this morning. Booyah.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 01, 2013 03:21 AM (JDIKC)

69 "We're so well-educated - but we're useless" http://tinyurl.com/b8mysto Robinson's main claim is that our current education system dislocates people from their natural talents. I would like to go a step further and propose that besides our talents, the system deprives us of what used to be passed from generation to generation Â– a working knowledge of basic life skills.

Posted by: Waiting for the Burning at March 01, 2013 03:21 AM (DFGPG)

70 Good morning everyone. It was dark this morning when I woke up. Damn sequestration.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 01, 2013 03:21 AM (Lo5Rt)

71 DAY 117 1,343to go (1,418 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 03:21 AM (48jWE)

72 I'm fine, Sven. No snow last night, so no shoveling this morning. Booyah. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 01, 2013 07:21 AM (JDIKC) That's good cardiovascular exercise. They pay big bucks for that in the city.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 03:22 AM (l86i3)

73 Is Rodman an American spy in N. Korea? Posted by: tony redenzo at March 01, 2013 07:06 AM (0KgIG) yeah, he blends

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 03:22 AM (9Bj8R)

74 66 rickb223,

Mine too....

I mean for the love of God had they settled on civil unions it'd have been done 18 years ago.

They keep swearing they are not trying to ram "celebration" down people's throat but oddly that is what all their damn activism is aimed at it seems.

Look if the gay groups would come out tomorrow swearing in blood to leave churches alone I would play the part of the county Clerk in blues brothers signing and stamping their damn dream but for some reason these same pretty ponies get real silent when that comes up....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 03:22 AM (LRFds)

75 70 Danger Girl,

well we are cutting 1/80th the sun's power....

look for it to get warmer...that's how AGW rolls somehow....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 03:23 AM (LRFds)

76 They *can* be taught but they need talked to

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:12 AM (LRFds)
=========

I think that once you get basic arithmetic into them the lights start to go on. At least that's what is happening with our little Nightingale- she graduated college 2 years ago with a head full of mush, but after working her tail off to make expenses in the "real world" she's become quite the conservative.

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 01, 2013 03:23 AM (RSqz2)

77 :::There are two things that make you fat; eating too many calories and not offsetting those calories with exercise::: There are people that believe caloric intake and exercise level have nothing to do with weight gain or inability to lose weight. They're called "fat people."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 01, 2013 03:24 AM (JDIKC)

78 Look if the gay groups would come out tomorrow swearing in blood to leave churches alone I would play the part of the county Clerk in blues brothers signing and stamping their damn dream but for some reason these same pretty ponies get real silent when that comes up.... Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:22 AM (LRFds) Yeah, but like all lefty programs, it's incrementalism.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 03:24 AM (l86i3)

79 They *can* be taught but they need talked to Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:12 AM (LRFds) reality is gonna do some talkin' soon enough

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at March 01, 2013 03:25 AM (XvrTA)

80 The Harvard Crimson published an editorial urging conservatives not to apply to Harvard if they intend to criticize the university down the line for political points. The editorial, titled Â“Warning: Do Not Enroll,Â” denigrates famous conservatives who graduated from Harvard and later sharply Â— and perhaps hypocritically Â— complained about the universityÂ’s liberal ideology, including former presidential candidate Mitt Romney, Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz, and Fox News commentator Bill OÂ’Reilly. Â“If we could have spoken to these three men, we would have told them never to come to Cambridge,Â” wrote the staff of the Crimson. Â“We at The Crimson urge anyone who plans on one day scoring political points by maligning Harvard to neither apply, enroll, nor graduate from this fine institution.Â” ut the Crimson editorial may inadvertently support some conservativesÂ’ assertions about the liberal campusÂ’ hostility toward conservatives. Â“Harvard liberals sure are an accepting bunch,Â” wrote Nathan Harden, editor of The College Fix. Â“I wonder where anyone ever got the idea that Harvard was hopelessly biased?Â” - See more at: http://weaselzippers.us/#sthash.RTN6gCy3.dpuf

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 03:26 AM (9Bj8R)

81 #74 Exactly. This is all about forcing churches, particularly the Catholic Church, to marry gay couples.

Just as there was another way to give women fre birth control without forcing Catholics to do so, this push for gay marriage is about forcing the Church to acquiesce.

It would be amusing if Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana becomes the pope. He is very conservative and would cause a disruption in the Narrative about Catholics.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 01, 2013 03:28 AM (GoIUi)

82 79 ghostofhallelujah,

and then we'll be snickering at 1/80th....

King Math is a laugh riot

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 03:28 AM (LRFds)

83 Look if the gay groups would come out tomorrow swearing in blood to leave churches alone I would play the part of the county Clerk in blues brothers signing and stamping their damn dream but for some reason these same pretty ponies get real silent when that comes up....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:22 AM (LRFds)

Yeah, but like all lefty programs, it's incrementalism.

You want to shut all of this talk about "marriage" down in a heartbeat?
Make one register legally as the guy. That way, in divorce court, everyone knows who is going to get SCREWED before he walks through the door.
If they "fair" and all that.

Posted by: rickb223 - May God bless Texas at March 01, 2013 03:28 AM (d0Dmj)

84 Morons who can watch Fox imbedded videos look at this and see if there are any names that are (1) actual conservatives and (2) Prominent.

First of all, that stupid Fox link smelled like a dog's ass and made me sit through a fucking ad once the POS loaded into my browser. Second, Megyn was interviewing that whore Nicolle "I will torpedo Sarah Palin at any cost" Wallace, who was one of the supporters and is obviously none of the above when it comes to prominent and conservative. I didn't even recognize most of those anonymous RINOs except for that asswipe Huntsman, who should go to his friends in Peking and peddle that garbage in Mandarin to see how that works, and Ted Olsen, who lost his fucking mind after his wife was killed in the Pentagon 9/11 flight.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 03:29 AM (AnRMP)

85 What is the threshold for legal marriage? What step is going too far? I think advocates of gay marriage are oblidged to answer those questions.

Posted by: eman at March 01, 2013 03:29 AM (o3GHm)

86 I think that once you get basic arithmetic into them the lights start to go on. At least that's what is happening with our little Nightingale- she graduated college 2 years ago with a head full of mush, but after working her tail off to make expenses in the "real world" she's become quite the conservative.

Reality, like life, is a bitch.

Posted by: rickb223 - May God bless Texas at March 01, 2013 03:30 AM (d0Dmj)

87 Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 07:29 AM (AnRMP)

IOW the whole thing is a lie. That's about what I figured.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 03:31 AM (53z96)

88 It's going to be a really long four years. I wonder if a Hillary! administration will be as ruthless and lawless as this one. The one agency that has had a scandal in almost every Administration, HUD, has seemingly been managed OK this time. Maybe that's because the secretary is not an Obama/Jarrett crony, he is a guy who worked for Giuliani in New York. Too bad we can't make him like CEO of the whole government.

Posted by: rockmom at March 01, 2013 03:31 AM (Ea7Up)

89 and then we'll be snickering at 1/80th.... King Math is a laugh riot Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:28 AM (LRFds) way things are going, soon they'll just have to outlaw all teaching of economics cuz even the Masters of Deceit can't lie their way through that one.

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at March 01, 2013 03:32 AM (XvrTA)

90 The 2016 post is pretty good. I'm a Rand booster but I don't expect him to get nominated. I just like the idea of libertarian ideas getting a seat at the table, especially when it comes to foreign policy.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 03:32 AM (FsUAO)

91 I'll just add before I hit the road, I don't really care about gay marriage, if two guys want to have a pretend ceremony for their pretend marriage, let them. I don't quite grasp why it's so damn important to use politics to force me into validating their delusions though.

Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 03:34 AM (hpYnL)

92 CO is trying to figure out how to tax pot now. Something I said would be very difficult given that the shit is so easy to grow.

http://is.gd/piUtQU

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 06:53 AM

Yeah. They don't call it "weed" because it's hard to grow anywhere there's sunlight.

Posted by: otho at March 01, 2013 03:34 AM (yBF/9)

93 Posted by: rockmom at March 01, 2013 07:31 AM (Ea7Up)

I would not count on that. I suspect that their cheating is just hidden in the march by all the other corruption.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 03:34 AM (53z96)

94 "Illinois GOP party chairman Pat Brady came out in in favor of gay marriage. And now gay marriage opponents want to oust him. This is a guy that got the IL GOP out of debt. He's raised $8 million for the party in a blue state. He's cut IL GOP administrative costs by 70% while upgrading their data center. Oh, and he did it all as a volunteer."
***

Plus, under his leadership, there are no Republicans holding any statewide offices and, I'm pretty sure, the Democrats hold a supermajority in the state legislature. So he's got that going for him too.

Posted by: Cancelled the Cable at March 01, 2013 03:35 AM (u3N3z)

95 We need another hearing from Issa. Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 06:55 AM

No, Vic, we don't need any more hearing from Sheriff Issa, thank you.

That worthless stumblebum has had "hearings" on every damn thing there is (and has given himself non-stop pats on the back while whining incessantly like a gut-shot loon about it), and the net result is....

Nothing.

He's our own Maxine Waters, using up valuable air and saying stupid shit and getting nothing done.

If someone other than an entrenched Republican eunuch actually looked into the shit pulled by the Choom Boy regime, there would be headlines (even from the Obama-sucking MFM) and impeachment/arrests, but we're too busy gossiping about ghey marriage and being "fair" for that.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 01, 2013 03:36 AM (cFhY4)

96 Yeah, but like all lefty programs, it's incrementalism.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 07:24 AM (l86i3)
=========

Yes, but in this case it's like they're trying to incrementally convince me that there is such a thing as non-alcoholic Scotch.

All they've succeeded in doing is mildly annoy me and bore me half to death.

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 01, 2013 03:37 AM (RSqz2)

97 I submit that she is either a liar or an incompetent boob.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 06:52 AM (53z96)

The first doesn't preclude the other!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 03:38 AM (GsoHv)

98 No, Vic, we don't need any more hearing from Sheriff Issa, thank you.

I guess I should have added the mandatory <snark> tag.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 03:40 AM (53z96)

99 So as I have said before I have a Bar Mitzvah and a Wedding on Saturday. The Wedding is the son of friends of ours and our older daughters. They are liberal. The Bar Mitzvah parents are conservative but it's a reformed Temple so that's probably a liberal crowd. I am not sure how I am going to make thru the day without punching someone out?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 03:41 AM (9Bj8R)

100 Make one register legally as the guy.

Posted by: rickb223 - May God bless Texas at March 01, 2013 07:28 AM (d0Dmj)

So what about normal marriages like the Obama's, in which the woman wears the strap-on?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 03:41 AM (GsoHv)

101 Christian Heinze has a characteristically insightful post on the GOP 2016 field. Read it and weep.

Why should I weep? That list, except for that fat tub of shit leading it, is a lot better than the traveling clown car posse we had last year. I'm not sure what perspective Heinze brings to it because he says the party would "hate" Rice or Jebby, which I would but the country clubbers would be happy with at least one of them if not both; yet leads the whole list of with Jersey "Slim". I detect a lack of consistency.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 03:42 AM (AnRMP)

102 As soon as I saw the Fat Asshole I killed the link

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 03:43 AM (53z96)

103 You want to shut all of this talk about "marriage" down in a heartbeat?
Make one register legally as the guy. That way, in divorce court, everyone knows who is going to get SCREWED before he walks through the door.
If they "fair" and all that.

Posted by: rickb223 - May God bless Texas at March 01, 2013 07:28 AM (d0Dmj)
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Now there's an idea for a real blockbuster of a new TV show:

"Gay Divorce Court"

The ratings will be thru the roof!

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 01, 2013 03:43 AM (RSqz2)

104 Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 07:41 AM (9Bj8R)

1. Bloody Mary for breakfast.
2. Flask for the synagogue.
3. Try not to punch anyone in the mouth...you'll cut up your hands on their teeth.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 03:44 AM (GsoHv)

105 Now there's an idea for a real blockbuster of a new TV show: "Gay Divorce Court" The ratings will be thru the roof! Posted by: Nighthawk at March 01, 2013 07:43 AM (RSqz2) Should be a real cat fight

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 03:44 AM (9Bj8R)

106 I guess I should have added the mandatory <snark> tag.
Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 07:40 AM

Damn skippy, Vic.

I shoulda known you wouldn't fall for the shit being peddled by Our Betters in the Conservative Media. But everyone seems to be heavily into the "compromise and get along" bag these days, and my sense of irony (not to mention humor) has been burned out.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 01, 2013 03:44 AM (cFhY4)

107 I guess I should have added the mandatory tag. Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 07:40 AM (53z96) I think we all knew what you meant

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at March 01, 2013 03:45 AM (XvrTA)

108

O/T, but this should post after the magical 100 mark. Just saw over at ThisAin'tHell that the poser-smasher Jonn Lilyea may have ALS.

Also O/T, OSP, read your book and loved it. Is there any way I could communicate with you via email. I posted a review on Amazon, but I have some other thoughts I'd like to share with you.

Posted by: lilredhen at March 01, 2013 03:45 AM (eytER)

109 1. Bloody Mary for breakfast. 2. Flask for the synagogue. 3. Try not to punch anyone in the mouth...you'll cut up your hands on their teeth. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 07:44 AM (GsoHv) Good ideas. And they are both at the same place. Rochleigh Country Club or something like that. I think the BM is Temple Sinai in Tenafly

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 03:46 AM (9Bj8R)

110 After gay marriage is the law of the land, no adoption agency will be able to favor a hetero couple over a gay one in placing a child. Catholic Church charities have been driven out of the adoption field in Massachusetts for precisely that reason.

Not good. Not right. All factors being equal -- the health of the relationship, economic stability, etc., -- a hetero marriage is the superior environment for raising children. The children of course have no say in the matter.

And everyone knows it. But our political class will never admit it.

Posted by: Hable at March 01, 2013 03:47 AM (u3N3z)

111 #109 Nevergiveup, you can pretend you are a spy behind enemy lines, gathering information. I find this mental tool useful when dealing with certain family members.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 01, 2013 03:47 AM (GoIUi)

112 I'm for traditional marriage...you know where the woman is the beard.

Posted by: Let me snort some rails off your ass at March 01, 2013 03:49 AM (Xf6HL)

113 - "Christian Heinze has a characteristically insightful post on the GOP 2016 field. Read it and weep." It's not an insightful piece. In various parts it's not even sentient. Sorry, Chief, but when Rand Paul is listed in the "needs to run" category "insightful" no longer is in the building. The other point about that article, albeit it does contain salient and non-dissonant material, is that somehow it missed the giant neon screaming elephant in the room: The horrible demographics of the GOP's national primary selectorate. Even assuming the key players run and the fringe riff raff elements don't run there still are the harsh demographic realities of the putative "base." Then there are the related problems of the early contests and their particularly-detached demographics: Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina. You almost could not script three worse states to have disproportionate influence on a national primary process. A low-density white state where the one major industry is taxpayer subsidized. A tiny all-white state where the government is the 3rd largest employer. A Deep South state with a very disproportionate number of evangelicals. A train wreck. The cold hard truth is that no matter who runs the '16 GOP primary season nearly instantly will devolve into a pissing match over divisive and unsolvable social issues: abortion, evolution vs. creationism, gay marriage, contraception. Simultaneously the contenders will have to lurch way too far to the right on immigration issues. The prospects are bleak. Having a cocooned and largely-irrational primary base with too much time on its hands is a recipe for perpetual political disasters.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at March 01, 2013 03:49 AM (r2PLg)

114 Nevergiveup, you can pretend you are a spy behind enemy lines, gathering information. I find this mental tool useful when dealing with certain family members. Posted by: Miss Marple at March 01, 2013 07:47 AM (GoIUi) If my wife didn't threaten to kill me, I'd shake things up. But instead i usually have a few drinks and take long walks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 03:50 AM (9Bj8R)

115

>>36Wow, I find myself visiting Ace before Drudge.

Well, naturally!

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 01, 2013 03:51 AM (XBUdh)

116

>>Why are gays allowed their magical issue but we are supposed to stifle the pro-lifers?

"Stifle the pro-lifers"? What the hell are you talking about?

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 01, 2013 03:52 AM (XBUdh)

117

" But, please, let's get rid of effective Republicans for holding the same position on marriage as the last Republican vice president"

There it is, I knew I was missing one. Damned things keep running around.

Posted by: Strawman Storage Company at March 01, 2013 03:52 AM (VrVBw)

118 Gabriel and other same sex marriage proponents, It doesn't really matter if a state or individual is doing well financially if its sexual ethics suck, literally and figuratively. Count the generations of a nation surviving with loose sexual ethics and we are on the clock.

Posted by: Gw mclintock at March 01, 2013 03:53 AM (fw3bb)

119

So I drove past a fire station on my way to work this morning. The shift was out there washing their fire trucks.

I then saw two police cars on the road.

I thought we wouldn't have any of those because of sequestration?!?

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 01, 2013 03:54 AM (eytER)

120 Count the generations of a nation surviving with loose sexual ethics and we are on the clock. Posted by: Gw mclintock at March 01, 2013 07:53 AM (fw3bb) Not sure if i agree with that exactly. How do you describe loose sexual ethics? I mean people have been doing it since the dawn of time?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 03:54 AM (9Bj8R)

121 :::110 After gay marriage is the law of the land, no adoption agency will be able to favor a hetero couple over a gay one in placing a child. Catholic Church charities have been driven out of the adoption field in Massachusetts for precisely that reason. Not good. Not right. All factors being equal -- the health of the relationship, economic stability, etc., -- a hetero marriage is the superior environment for raising children. The children of course have no say in the matter. And everyone knows it. But our political class will never admit it. Posted by: Hable at March 01, 2013 07:47 AM (u3N3z)::: Well said. Lurk less. Post more.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 01, 2013 03:54 AM (JDIKC)

122 I then saw two police cars on the road. I thought we wouldn't have any of those because of sequestration?!? Posted by: @JohnTant at March 01, 2013 07:54 AM (eytER) Yeah but ya notice they did not have enough petty cash to be buying donuts at DD? Am I right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 03:55 AM (9Bj8R)

123 BM is Temple Sinai in Tenafly

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 07:46 AM (9Bj8R)

Oh, let me guess.

They ramble incessantly about "social justice" and "inclusiveness," have a woman rabbi, and lots of women wear tallitot and kipot. The sermon is invariably about something other than Judaism or Israel, and there is an undertone of contempt for the strength of Israel and its fight against Islam.

Fuck it.

Hit someone.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 03:55 AM (GsoHv)

124 99 So as I have said before I have a Bar Mitzvah and a Wedding on Saturday. The Wedding is the son of friends of ours and our older daughters. They are liberal. The Bar Mitzvah parents are conservative but it's a reformed Temple so that's probably a liberal crowd. I am not sure how I am going to make thru the day without punching someone out? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 07:41 AM (9Bj8R) A - avoid conversations at all cost except with the immediate family and to wish mazel tov. B - if you have to "debate" a lib, always take the position that is as far to the LEFT of theirs as possible. Shuts them up every time and makes them see their hypocrisy if they try and argue against it. C - bring Tupperware and raid as much of the cocktail hors d'oeuvres as possible.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 03:55 AM (48jWE)

125

CO is trying to figure out how to tax pot now. Something I said would be very difficult given that the shit is so easy to grow.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 06:53 AM

For years people have been illegally keeping/growing marijuana under threat of CRIMINAL prosecution. What makes the CO legislature think those same people are gladly going to report their stash under threat of CIVIL prosecution?!

That's what made the whole "legalize and tax" argument preposterous to me.

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 01, 2013 03:57 AM (eytER)

126 Well, I did get to see our local news covering the Transgendered 6 year old boy, who believes he's a girl.
Thank god he didn't tell his parents he was a pony, or he'd be sleeping in a barn in the back yard.
Mustn't let reality intrude on our made up universe.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2013 03:57 AM (FFq98)

127 Fuck it. Hit someone. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 07:55 AM (GsoHv) Will you bail me out? C - bring Tupperware and raid as much of the cocktail hors d'oeuvres as possible. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 07:55 AM (48jWE) That's not really classy. What I do is bring ziplock bags and put them inside my pants and pockets!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 03:58 AM (9Bj8R)

128 110 -

Exactly. Real damage being done to real people, all so we can indulge some narcissists who insist upon society validating their fragile egos.

I would call it perverse, but that would likely be misinterpreted by the sensitive crowd.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2013 03:58 AM (BeSEI)

129 116 Gabe,

uh Gabe seriously?

Look I joined in on pin the tail on SoCon despite my sympathizing with SoCon much more than the Krispy Kaukus because I understood how toxic he was but the pro-life GOP is constantly being told, "well uh society has moved on we need to x and y and z."

My gun owning class is being told by Krispy Kaukus "sensible measures that respect the 2d amendment *are* going to happen." The thing is somehow the FABULOUS faction is never told....

"hey what *else* is happening this week that might, you know be a little more important to focus on?"

Gabe the portion of the party that is hard pro life is a lot higher than the portion that is hard pro gay marriage, well unless maybe the passive-aggressive donkey aiding theatrical games have finally broken through and a bare majority of the party just wants it to go the hell away.

hats off, it's done wonders Act-Up....

no really way to get accepted and show you "just want equality."

Here's hoping when FABULOUS! democrat leaning gay owned small businesses screw me over I can sue for discrimination too.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 03:58 AM (LRFds)

130 Hi, Andrew! Hard to believe it's been a year.

Posted by: Andy at March 01, 2013 04:01 AM (OZPoa)

131 126 -

I couldn't read that one. I think I reached my limit.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2013 04:01 AM (BeSEI)

132 C - bring Tupperware and raid as much of the cocktail hors d'oeuvres as possible.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 07:55 AM (48jWE)

That's not really classy. What I do is bring ziplock bags and put them inside my pants and pockets!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 07:58 AM (9Bj8R)

Don't forget to be "Mr. Helpful" and take the cool gifts to YOUR car just before leaving.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at March 01, 2013 04:01 AM (YYyqq)

133 113 The prospects are bleak. Having a cocooned and largely-irrational primary base with too much time on its hands is a recipe for perpetual political disasters. Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at March 01, 2013 07:49 AM (r2PLg) Well, most of the primary problems would be solved if the RNC refused to have people like Stephanopoulos "moderating" our debates. It's our primary - why can't we have people like Brett Baier, Britt Hume or Mark Fucking Levin moderate the damned things? At the very least, I wish the candidates would have a unified front and tell a Dem operative moderator to go fuck him/herself whenever they derogate and lie about us.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 04:01 AM (48jWE)

134 127 That's not really classy. What I do is bring ziplock bags and put them inside my pants and pockets! Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 07:58 AM (9Bj8R) You'll smush the egg rolls.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 04:02 AM (48jWE)

135 I'm a pro-life libertarian. It's not my fault other libertarians don't understand that a culture of death serves the devil and will not survive. We got rid of slavery(mostly). We can get rid of abortion too.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 04:02 AM (FsUAO)

136 Not sure if i agree with that exactly. How do you describe loose sexual ethics? I mean people have been doing it since the dawn of time? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 07:54 AM (9Bj8R) Has it been condoned by the God, the state or the individual? Sure, human nature is what it is, but celebration and acceptance is my reference. No more than that. A society will not survive when it's sexual ethics are "eff it, anything and everything"

Posted by: Gw mclintock at March 01, 2013 04:03 AM (fw3bb)

137 http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/27/obamas-losing-help/ Obama is losing the sequester debate. HELP!!!!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 04:04 AM (FsUAO)

138 125 John Tant,

same old story and same old song and dance...

"just pass the damn law..."

that's all the tax argument ever was and now magically they will have to recriminalize the private growing of an ostensibly legal on the state level plant....

and Stoner Nation will not support the GOP nor get off the couch about anything but their pet cause I'd wager.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 04:05 AM (LRFds)

139

This is a guy that got the IL GOP out of debt. He's raised $8 million for the party in a blue state. He's cut IL GOP administrative costs by 70% while upgrading their data center.

That's not being an effective Republican. That's being an effective ADMINISTRATOR.

I'm sure there is at least one person in Illinois who could do that without caving in to a liberal wish list item.

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 01, 2013 04:05 AM (eytER)

140 #133 I fail to see why the GOP needs ANY network coverage of their debates. Do a live stream and then run replays on YouTube. Have the candidates draw questions out of a fishbowl, questions that have been submitted by actual GOP registered voters.

As far as the general election debates, refuse to participate unless we get a moderator and questioners who are balanced. And take every opportunity to say why.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 01, 2013 04:06 AM (GoIUi)

141

Andrew's mom passed away yesterday, just a day shy of his passing:

http://bit.ly/Y94fI0

Posted by: RushBabe at March 01, 2013 04:06 AM (tQHzJ)

142 As to the social issues, it's not that they should not be spoken of, it's that we need candidates who can articulate WHY they are important to us and WHY the left are G-dless heathen fucks. Yes, personally, I'd like to avoid them because they are a distraction to the low info voter - especially when we allow the MFM and debate moderators to frame the questions and the debate in the first place. But if they are going to raise the issues, our candidates have got to be able to articulate a cogent and intelligent response in 30 seconds or less. End of rant.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 04:06 AM (48jWE)

143 God, I can't believe it's been a year since they killed Andrew off.

Posted by: Truman North at March 01, 2013 04:07 AM (I2LwF)

144 RIP to Arlene Breitbart. Take care of that great kid of yours.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 04:08 AM (48jWE)

145 133 J.J. That'e exactly what I was saying last year. There are any number of conservative talk radio hosts who would make excellent debate moderators, and I daresay they would be fairer than the liberal ones. Could you picture Dennis Prager asking "gotcha" questions?

Posted by: rickl at March 01, 2013 04:08 AM (sdi6R)

146 Then there are the related problems of the early contests and their particularly-detached demographics: Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina. You almost could not script three worse states to have disproportionate influence on a national primary process. A low-density white state where the one major industry is taxpayer subsidized. A tin

The RNC is useless until they tell these three states to go fuck themselves and get to the back of the line. In fact they should sell toilet paper made from the Iowa constitution where it purportedly states that those corn fed cocksuckers get to go first; why should I or anybody else be bound by that? Any state that repeatedly elects that lying pile of shit, Tom Harken, should be severely beaten on the head by a party which purportedly is in favor of limited government (don't laugh too hard on that).

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 04:09 AM (AnRMP)

147

@8 - Vic, from the reviews so far, the Burnett/Downey collaboration on The Bible is getting rave reviews. This clip puts everything going on in some major perspective. The wimmins may need a tissue. (I did.)

http://bit.ly/Z2avPG

Posted by: RushBabe at March 01, 2013 04:09 AM (tQHzJ)

148

"A society will not survive when it's sexual ethics are "eff it,.."

Goodby Canada!

Posted by: Case at March 01, 2013 04:10 AM (GxTMf)

149 Folks, I'm going to call it a day for today. Y'all be nice and keep the flames down to sun level temps.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 04:10 AM (53z96)

150 oops new post to me, have to check it first.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 04:11 AM (53z96)

151 JJ, I concur w that statement at 142

Posted by: Gw mclintock at March 01, 2013 04:11 AM (fw3bb)

152 145 133 J.J. That'e exactly what I was saying last year. There are any number of conservative talk radio hosts who would make excellent debate moderators, and I daresay they would be fairer than the liberal ones. Could you picture Dennis Prager asking "gotcha" questions? Posted by: rickl at March 01, 2013 08:08 AM (sdi6R) See my post at 142. The RNC will never do this, sadly. So we need candidates who can speak off the cuff and prevent us from being Alinsky-ed and Lackoff-ed. When Newt pimp-slapped Juan Williams, that was the highlight of the whole damn primary season - and the perfect example of what has to be done.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 04:12 AM (48jWE)

153 Fugly Napolitano now says she had nothing to do with the release of the illegals. Then I submit that she is either a liar or an incompetent boob. But hell, thatÂ’s everybody in the administration.

http://is.gd/ZqTZlU

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 06:52 AM (53z96)

This excuse would lead to cries of "failure of leadership" if there was an "R" behind the President's name.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 01, 2013 04:12 AM (Gkhxf)

154 SpaceX is preparing to launch their Falcon 9 rocket carrying the Dragon spacecraft on a resupply mission to the ISS. Liftoff is scheduled for 10:10 am EST. NASA TV coverage begins at 8:30: http://www.nasa.gov/home/index.html The SpaceX webcast begins at 9:30: http://www.spacex.com/webcast/

Posted by: rickl at March 01, 2013 04:13 AM (sdi6R)

155

It's going to be a really long four years. I wonder if a Hillary! administration will be as ruthless and lawless as this one.

Vince Foster unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 01, 2013 04:14 AM (fwARV)

156 Posted by: RushBabe at March 01, 2013 08:09 AM (tQHzJ)

Some of the men may need some tissues as well. But I have to go now.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2013 04:15 AM (53z96)

157 Okay never mind...Federal Bath Tub Boy totally realigned my contrarian cannon...

"about those feds"

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 04:15 AM (LRFds)

158 A - avoid conversations at all cost except with the immediate family and to wish mazel tov.

B - if you have to "debate" a lib, always take the position that is as far to the LEFT of theirs as possible. Shuts them up every time and makes them see their hypocrisy if they try and argue against it.

C - bring Tupperware and raid as much of the cocktail hors d'oeuvres as possible.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 07:55 AM (48jWE)

Doing B is my absolute favorite! I LOVE staking out positions to the left of liberals and having them explain to me why my ideas can't possibly work.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 01, 2013 04:16 AM (fwARV)

159 So what about normal marriages like the Obama's, in which the woman wears the strap-on? Family court & the judge don't give a shit. Skeeter is male. The wookie could be a convicted crack whore & she is still getting the kids, house & 1/2 of his retirement.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 01, 2013 04:16 AM (/i5F8)

160 so how am I supposed to feel about Breanna "willing to undermine national security over gay marriage" Manning?

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 04:17 AM (LRFds)

161 Eating when emotional... Never had that happen.

Posted by: sTevo at March 01, 2013 04:18 AM (L7std)

162 59 Hey, Skydiving from a B-17. Been there, done that. It costs $400. The Mrs. bout lost her shit. She got over it. OSP- Me too, but I was single, independently-owned and operated, so I suffered nothing but a good time!

Posted by: LittleMs.Inopulent at March 01, 2013 04:19 AM (qH52N)

163 158 Doing B is my absolute favorite! I LOVE staking out positions to the left of liberals and having them explain to me why my ideas can't possibly work. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 01, 2013 08:16 AM (fwARV) I call it mental jiu-jitsu. Whenever someone complains I order veal, I tell them if we could just harvest the calf before birth, it wouldn't be a problem as it would only be a tissue mass... Heads explode.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 04:22 AM (48jWE)

164 Preager -- Hell Levin

Posted by: Jean at March 01, 2013 04:23 AM (UnMRd)

165 Former Twatter compadre James Pethokoukis arguing on "why I learned to stop fearing the bomb and love the sequester or Dr. StrangeMath!'

Well okay that is my summary of it, but I finally arrived at the same point he's at even if my goals are different.

http://www.aei-ideas.org/author/jpethokoukis/

James P is a good economics thinker, wonder if anyone is ever gonna get around to pointing out that having a mobile operational force is a lot easier if we are not trying to run the globe, near space, and cyberspace all at once while playing whack-a-mole with Jihadi Jim and acting as bullsh*t R+D for "green diesel"......?

All this theatricality on budgets and DADT is sorta obfuscating the fact we need a national conversation on why the US military needs control of the seas and air and the high cost of low risk war.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 04:23 AM (LRFds)

166 I'm sure Vic will mention it but tomorrow is Texas Independence Day. Tradition is to raise a glass at noon and toast those patriots. The siege of the Alamo had already begun. It fell on March 6th.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 01, 2013 04:23 AM (xiaOm)

167 I call it mental jiu-jitsu. Whenever someone complains I order veal, I tell them if we could just harvest the calf before birth, it wouldn't be a problem as it would only be a tissue mass...

Heads explode.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 08:22 AM (48jWE)

Genius. I will order veal every chance I get just HOPING for an opportunity to use that one.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 01, 2013 04:23 AM (fwARV)

168 Nobody gets out Alive!!!! In these times of Tyranny, you going to spend your dime on Ammo? Now do not do down too the troff buffet, but certainly. try to live as best you can. My brother in law ate pine nuts and tofu, I drank Scotch and occasionally smoke a Ashton..he died jogging 20 years ago...

Posted by: Clemenza at March 01, 2013 04:24 AM (x59Gv)

169 I call it mental jiu-jitsu. Whenever someone complains I order veal, I tell them if we could just harvest the calf before birth, it wouldn't be a problem as it would only be a tissue mass... Heads explode. So stolen!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 01, 2013 04:24 AM (/i5F8)

170 we need a national conversation on why the US military needs control of the seas and air and the high cost of low risk war.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 08:23 AM (LRFds)

Maintaining control of the seas is much easier than wresting control back when you have to.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 01, 2013 04:24 AM (fwARV)

171 167 Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 01, 2013 08:23 AM (fwARV) Even better, order veal and say that it's not really a fully formed cow until it's 2 years old. If they protest, you can say "so, you're disagreeing with the president's own science advisor?" Heh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 04:27 AM (48jWE)

172 If the government wants same sex people married, let the government do the marriage.

Posted by: Case at March 01, 2013 04:27 AM (GxTMf)

173 The long national nightmare of Black History Month is over!

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 04:28 AM (AnRMP)

174

"Hollywood Power Couple" Penned Op-Ed on why the Bible should be taught in school. It's a sad day, isn't it? When I was in college in the early '80s, "The Bible as Literature" was one of the English classes to fill up immediately. Everyone said it was "interesting."

This Blaze piece includes the couple's argument and a longer look at the new 10-hour series. Downey recently pointed out in an interview that The 10 Commandements film is 50 years old and the special FX are hokey. Heck, if that's what would appeal to some apathetic folks, tell them to watch for that reason alone. The Great Flood, Goliath falling to David's slingshot and Sodom and Gomorrah being pelted with fireballs in the clip here.

http://bit.ly/15VQykc

Posted by: RushBabe at March 01, 2013 04:28 AM (tQHzJ)

175 Also O/T, OSP, read your book and loved it. Is there any way I could communicate with you via email. I posted a review on Amazon, but I have some other thoughts I'd like to share with you. Posted by: lilredhen at March 01, 2013 07:45 AM (eytER) Amylynnbraxton@gmail.com.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 04:28 AM (l86i3)

176 170 washington nearsider,

quite...

add in that gearing our entire force to absolutely placing collateral minimization and force protection as job 1+2 undermines mission capability...

the "nice" thing is that for the first time in our republic's history I sincerely feel there is a good chance what I just typed on the matter exceeds the concern of more than half our senior leadership and the political class doesn't care.

I am running out of answers.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 04:28 AM (LRFds)

177 Dont fear wingnuts, Gabe is right. I can save you from fhe stigma of being uncool.

Posted by: Gay Marriage at March 01, 2013 04:30 AM (VrVBw)

178 The long national nightmare of Black History Month is over!

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 08:28 AM (AnRMP)

Hah! And y'all thought there was no good news out there today! Good catch, Cap'n!

Posted by: RushBabe at March 01, 2013 04:30 AM (tQHzJ)

179 @ 173 I sure hope you had the Joy of jumping in on the Sheela Jackson Lee and Maxine Waters smack down yesterday..funny how un PC the real world of AOS commenters..

Posted by: Clemenza at March 01, 2013 04:32 AM (x59Gv)

180 Blog broke? Test

Posted by: Truman North at March 01, 2013 04:35 AM (I2LwF)

181 179 @ 173 I sure hope you had the Joy of jumping in on the Sheela Jackson Lee and Maxine Waters smack down yesterday..funny how un PC the real world of AOS commenters.. Posted by: Clemenza at March 01, 2013 08:32 AM (x59Gv) Sorry I missed it! What post was it in?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 04:36 AM (48jWE)

182 gahhh ... just read the post & first 25 comments & y'know what? I think I'll go back to reading about boobies on the ONT!

Posted by: a mindful webworker at March 01, 2013 04:37 AM (KmZtw)

183 The long national nightmare of Black History Month is over! Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 08:28 AM (AnRMP) I just read not to long ago that whites are the minority in London. Maybe they will have a White history month.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 04:37 AM (l86i3)

184 I am running out of answers.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 08:28 AM (LRFds)

Scary part - we all are.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 01, 2013 04:37 AM (fwARV)

185 1 hour 23 minutes until Boehner lets us know if he spit or swallowed. Me, well, I think he is going to need his stomach pumped.

Posted by: RWC at March 01, 2013 04:37 AM (fWAjv)

186 Me, well, I think he is going to need his stomach pumped. Posted by: RWC at March 01, 2013 08:37 AM (fWAjv) And an enema, I'm sure his ass is full too.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 04:38 AM (l86i3)

187 It takes discipline (and I am FAR from good at it) but the key to defeating a liberal in an argument is that you have to be able to understand and argue their side of the issue as effectively as possible. Once you can master that, and have the cojones to confront them in any situation you are in, it's over.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 04:39 AM (48jWE)

188

"Maybe they will have a White history month."

Only if they are gay.

Posted by: Case at March 01, 2013 04:39 AM (GxTMf)

189 We must cater to the gay mafia. And we must allow a group who's head worked as a lobbyist for planned parenthood and thinks those opposed to gay marriage are "nasty bigots" attend CPAC. Our intellectual impartial unbiased superior Gabe tells us so.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 04:39 AM (GULKT)

190 Me, well, I think he is going to need his stomach pumped.
Posted by: RWC at March 01, 2013 08:37 AM (fWAjv)

And an enema, I'm sure his ass is full too.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 08:38 AM (l86i3)

It's sad that we talk about our leaders this way; and even sadder that they deserve every fucking bit of it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 04:40 AM (AnRMP)

191 Nevergiveup, try this... Keep a running total of how many times you can say to one of the Liberals, "Why bless your littlr heart, you truly are a SPECIAL little snowflake!"

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wilde Wrepublican Wench at March 01, 2013 04:40 AM (MWfH9)

192 Of course Sec. Napolitano has no idea what's going on in her own detention facilities; she doesn't want to know. That's the scandal. Of course AG Holder didn't know his subordinates were selling guns to Mexican cartels; he didn't want to know. That's the scandal. Of course Sec. Clinton had no idea her own diplomats were begging for help because of Benghazi's security nightmare; she didn't want to know. That's the scandal. Somehow Bush was responsible for everything, everywhere on Earth according to the left, and certainly anything within his Administration -- he was the CEO after all ! In contrast, Obama and his crew aren't responsible for anything ever, even fuckups occurring right under their noses in departments and job duties they are immediately in charge of. Because, black Democrat, so quit suggesting he ever should be held accountable !

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 01, 2013 04:41 AM (bS6uW)

193

Morning, all! Happy March 1st! Hopefully we won't all be dead from Sequestermageddon come tomorrow!

This tendency to genuinely plead ignorance, by the way, is one of the true scandals of the Obama Administration.

This is one of the things that makes me truly sick when I think of this tyrannical idiot in the Oval Office. The buck, apparently, never stops at his desk, nor the desks of his appointees. They've apparently moved the buck down to land on the desk of some Administrator IV.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 04:41 AM (4df7R)

194 ::::173 The long national nightmare of Black History Month is over! Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 08:28 AM (AnRMP):::: I didn't learn a damn thing all month. On purpose. The beauty of that strategy is it can be used to either defy OR support Black History Month.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 01, 2013 04:42 AM (JDIKC)

195 For some reason I was expecting Sequestragemmon to be much more dramatic.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 01, 2013 04:42 AM (bS6uW)

196 Illinois GOP party chairman Pat Brady came out in in favor of gay marriage.

Yeah he's done a great job. So great that the Republican Party doesn't exist in Illinois. It's a doormat for the Democrats.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2013 04:42 AM (1Jaio)

197 In honor of sequestration I have dutifully taken the day off.

Posted by: Talibill at March 01, 2013 04:43 AM (qk/nQ)

198 This is one of the things that makes me truly sick when I think of this tyrannical idiot in the Oval Office. The buck, apparently, never stops at his desk, nor the desks of his appointees. They've apparently moved the buck down to land on the desk of some Administrator IV. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 01, 2013 08:41 AM (4df7R) "Profiles In Courage"? I think not

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 04:44 AM (9Bj8R)

199 "How am I supposed to pay for those ? ThereÂ’s only so much I can do" - Janet Napolitano 2/25/13

How is it that earlier this week, Napolitano lamented - no, threatened - the need to release detained immigrants and furlough border patrol agents because of sequestration. And now she denies all knowledge and blames a career ICE official?
Ridiculous!

http://tinyurl.com/cv82mxg

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2013 04:44 AM (is6Me)

200 "Maybe they will have a White history month." I keep waiting for fat, old, rich white guy day at work but it hasn't rolled around yet.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 01, 2013 04:44 AM (bS6uW)

201 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 01, 2013 08:42 AM (JDIKC)

So, shovel any character this morning?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 04:44 AM (da5Wo)

202

173 The long national nightmare of Black History Month is over!
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 08:28 AM (AnRMP

Isn't March a "History Month," too? Is it Women's History Month? Something stupid like that. Anyway, count me out of it. History's history, regardless of who participated in it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 04:44 AM (4df7R)

203 I see El-Reuters is reporting the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds are cancelling shows due to the Sequester. And IMHO it makes good fiscal sense to do so.
Of course, anyone who reads CDR Salamander's blog knew this about thirty days ago.

And we still insist on buying expensive Bio-fuel for the fleet, instead of cheaper conventional liquid dinosaurs

It's not about reducing cost, but about inflicting the maximum pain to the average tax paying American.

If only we gave the President what he wants, he wouldn't have to hurt us for our own good.
We truly don't deserve him.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2013 04:45 AM (FFq98)

204 ::::I keep waiting for fat, old, rich white guy day at work but it hasn't rolled around yet.:::: If they ever institute one, I'm going dressed as Daddy Warbucks.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 01, 2013 04:46 AM (JDIKC)

205 So, Janet Napolitano did not receive the email telling her to fall on her sword?

Posted by: burt at March 01, 2013 04:46 AM (/QJXp)

206 And we must allow a group who's head worked as a lobbyist for planned parenthood and thinks those opposed to gay marriage are "nasty bigots" attend CPAC.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 08:39 AM (GULKT)

Iirc, they can still attend but can't be a sponsor. I don't see what the big fucking deal is about that.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 04:46 AM (AnRMP)

207 Worried about the federal government imposing overly-restrictive new gun laws? One Pennsylvania county is saying, Â“Not in our backyard!Â” Susquehanna County commissioners have passed a resolution to fully protect the Second Amendment from any federal laws infringing upon it, as reported by The Times-Tribune. The resolution states that that Â“any federal act, bill, law, rule or executive order that in any way infringes on our Second Amendment rights by attempting to reduce the private ownership of any firearm, magazine or ammunition shall be unenforceable in Susquehanna County.Â” - See more at: http://weaselzippers.us/#sthash.Gq8S4SrR.dpuf Susquehanna, Slowly I turn

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 04:46 AM (9Bj8R)

208 RE: The Obama Regime's attitude toward the Press. Didn't they also lock a reporter in a closet at a (Biden) fundraiser? That is a crime- holding someone against their will.

Posted by: Baldy at March 01, 2013 04:47 AM (opS9C)

209

How is it that earlier this week, Napolitano lamented - no, threatened - the need to release detained immigrants and furlough border patrol agents because of sequestration. And now she denies all knowledge and blames a career ICE official?

It's called Regressive Amnesia. Anything they've said in the past is forgotten as soon as they've said it, and anyone who remembers them saying such things is lying. Yes, even if there are written and recorded accounts. Doesn't matter. ALL LIES.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 04:47 AM (4df7R)

210 In the Middle East, back in the 80s or 90s, veal was on the menu at a hotel Resturant. The limited English skills of the Paki or Indian staff had translated it as "Baby Cow".

Posted by: Jean at March 01, 2013 04:47 AM (DcbLC)

211 thank you for posting that (((((rushbabe)))))).....

Posted by: phoenixgirl member of WAVAWA at March 01, 2013 04:47 AM (GVxQo)

212 :::So, shovel any character this morning?:::: No, yesterday at noon was my last character-building session. I have GOT to be a better person than all of you, by now.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 01, 2013 04:47 AM (JDIKC)

213 196 TQM,

One can respect that he righted the financial ship, step one of retaking the blue hellholes is having the means to campaign. That said celebrating the frugality by hopping on a pogo stick in a minefield...

Illinois is an economic basketcase, what national argument going on and coming to a head today pertinent to Illinois state conditions is more important than gay marriage....?

yeah exactly...let's not talk about that let's break out the SHOWTUNES!

One...singular sensnation...

dad dad dad dad da

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 04:48 AM (LRFds)

214 RE: The Obama Regime's attitude toward the Press. Didn't they also lock a reporter in a closet at a (Biden) fundraiser? That is a crime- holding someone against their will.

Posted by: Baldy at March 01, 2013 08:47 AM (opS9C)

That's right! Yes, they sent him to the closet while the party went on.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 04:48 AM (4df7R)

215 No, yesterday at noon was my last character-building session. I have GOT to be a better person than all of you, by now.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 01, 2013 08:47 AM (JDIKC)

I dunno, you had a lot of ground to make up. I mean, none of us tried to run over protestors with our F-150.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 04:49 AM (da5Wo)

216 208 baldy,

Imagine Slo Joe patting the newsie on the shoulder...

"now uh Ralph here has no hard feelings right Ralph?'

uh actually my name is Bob sir....

"right Ralph now go tell a good story son..."

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 04:49 AM (LRFds)

217 The Obama Regime's attitude toward the Press. Didn't they also lock a reporter in a closet at a (Biden) fundraiser? That is a crime- holding someone against their will. Posted by: Baldy at March 01, 2013 08:47 AM (opS9C) That's right! Yes, they sent him to the closet while the party went on. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 01, 2013 08:48 AM (4df7R) And the punk went? Nobody puts baby in the closet

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 04:49 AM (9Bj8R)

218 I dunno, you had a lot of ground to make up. I mean, none of us tried to run over protestors with our F-150.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 08:49 AM (da5Wo)

Hey! Speak for yourself, Cochran.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 04:50 AM (4df7R)

219 Iirc, they can still attend but can't be a sponsor. I don't see what the big fucking deal is about that.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 08:46 AM (AnRMP)

Because if they can't then we're nasty backwards bigots that hate homosexuals and want them thrown into camps Duh!

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 04:50 AM (GULKT)

220 Dear Friends of Gay Marriage:

Start making your arguments better. Half of the hate and discontent is because you can't--you claim the other side is not acting on rational basis, and then the only arguments you offer seem to be half-baked themselves, based on your own emotional feelings.

You are never going to convince any non-Western society at the rate you are going.

The Obama administration, by the way, is wrong in its actions before the Court. I don't have time for a long argument, but it simply is this--liberals have got to stop shoving things through via the Court on Constitutional grounds and then refuse to ever admit any other possibility of the Constitution checking them. Take the king's coin, do the king's bidding.

Posted by: T. at March 01, 2013 04:50 AM (uTHB9)

221 173 The long national nightmare of Black History Month is over! Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 08:28 AM (AnRMP

Isn't March a "History Month," too? Is it Women's History Month? Something stupid like that. Anyway, count me out of it. History's history, regardless of who participated in it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 01, 2013 08:44 AM (4df7R)

I think every month is a history month now, except for whitey

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2013 04:50 AM (1Jaio)

222 Re: It's called Regressive Amnesia.

I get that Napolitano claims this, but how on earth can the press not call her out on this - it's only been 3 flippin' days!?!?
I know, I know, they're just boot-licker stenographers...but, still.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2013 04:50 AM (is6Me)

223 215 BC1981,

ONLY because I had restraint enough to not take the detour when visiting Ft Hood back in '06 to visit Saint Cindy aka the B*tch in the ditch...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 04:50 AM (LRFds)

224 218 MWR,

hear hear now take the 5th...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 04:51 AM (LRFds)

225 Gabe, thanks for posting the link to 20 habits that make you fat. Good info.

Posted by: maddogg at March 01, 2013 04:52 AM (OlN4e)

226
218 I dunno, you had a lot of ground to make up. I mean, none of us tried to run over protestors with our F-150.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 08:49 AM (da5Wo)

-----------------------------

Hey! Speak for yourself, Cochran.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 01, 2013 08:50 AM (4df7R)

Well, in all honestly, it's mostly because I haven't come across any protestors recently. That and I hear that libtard blood is corrosive. I like my truck.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 04:52 AM (da5Wo)

227 Traffic was extra light coming into DC today. and the butthurt on WTOP was extra strong. Great start to the day.

Posted by: DCPensFan at March 01, 2013 04:52 AM (ma/2m)

228 :::218 I dunno, you had a lot of ground to make up. I mean, none of us tried to run over protestors with our F-150. Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 08:49 AM (da5Wo) ::: Yeah, but still, it was a lot of snow. I should be good.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 01, 2013 04:53 AM (JDIKC)

229 The press is Barry's bitch. They've whored themselves to him time and time again and now they want respect from him. It's laughable. Actually most of them are attacking Woodward so they seem to be content in the role of the hooker who gets smacked around by her pimp yet she defends the pimp

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2013 04:53 AM (1Jaio)

230 On Fox in The Morning all the staff and Hosts brought their dogs into work. Nice. Of course that would never work at CNN or MSNBC since then we would not know who the female hosts were and who were the dogs?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 04:53 AM (9Bj8R)

231 And the punk went? Nobody puts baby in the closet

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 08:49 AM (9Bj8R)

He did! It was Scott Powers from the Orlando Sentinel. He took a photo while he was inside the closet, which you can see here: http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2011/03/waiting-for-joe-and-bill.html

And a bit of a longer write-up by Fox News here: http://tiny.cc/6us9sw

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 04:53 AM (4df7R)

232 Why do you pathetic right-wingers insist on this racist hate for our President and his policies?

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 01, 2013 04:54 AM (jCQ+I)

233 Anybody remember when Bush was powerful enough to control hurricanes?

And Obumbles can't even control his cabinet.

Bush was smart enough to pull off 9-11.
Obama had no idea we were starting a catch and release program for illegal aliens.

Of course, I gotta give Skeeter credit for one thing.
Ain't no-one can snag a fly out of mid-air like he can.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2013 04:54 AM (FFq98)

234 Oh look, here's Gabe with another installment of "give the radical queers what they want and they're sure to love us."

Give me a fucking break. There is no evidence whatsoever that the queer marriage issue costs Republican's votes. All it does is give those who hate anything conservative another reason to hate conservatives.

Capitulate on that and they'll just find another thing they'll portray as just as bad so they can keep hating us.

Anyway, keep this up Gabe. I'm sure you're a nice guy. But, you're not honest when it comes to this issue. You're Andrew Sullivan the more you keep on this phony, malicious issue.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 01, 2013 04:54 AM (VjL9S)

235 I think every month is a history month now, except for whitey

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2013 08:50 AM (1Jaio)

EVERY SINGLE DAY is apparently White History Month, if you listen the retards on the left. It numbs the brain.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 04:55 AM (4df7R)

236 RE: Detroit
" The team found that "no satisfactory plan exists to resolve a serious financial problem" in the city, leaving Snyder to mull over whether to appoint a manager."
Hot News Flash. There is still no satisfactory plan to resolve the serious financial problem. The only change is who writes the checks. The Detroit political structure remains in place, the Detroit politicians who caused the problem remain in place. The only change is the signature on the checks, now signed by the State. Same arithmetic, same bills, same problems, no solution.

What should be done is bankruptcy, and new management.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 01, 2013 04:55 AM (v1dFx)

237 http://tinyurl.com/c68s59n

Nanny Bloomberg's *other* job as owner of the "Asshole Times" admits that incomes have fallen the most in 20 years...

AWESOME Job America you f****** retards....you reelected the d***head who did this...

*salute*

I'll just use one finger okay?

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 04:56 AM (LRFds)

238 Well, in all honestly, it's mostly because I haven't come across any protestors recently. That and I hear that libtard blood is corrosive. I like my truck.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 08:52 AM (da5Wo)

That's very true. They also have acidic saliva and caustic vomit, so you're looking at a three-pronged continuum of vehicular damage.

And to be honest, I don't own an F-150. I own but a tiny Hyundai Accent. But I like to PRETEND it's a big, bad truck when I see idiots with protest signs in front of our Capitol building here in Concord. *revs engine*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 04:58 AM (4df7R)

239 Yeah, but still, it was a lot of snow. I should be good.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 01, 2013 08:53 AM (JDIKC)

SSG Gibbons disagrees. He says his ribs still hurt.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 04:58 AM (da5Wo)

240 227 Traffic was extra light coming into DC today. and the butthurt on WTOP was extra strong. Great start to the day. Posted by: DCPensFan at March 01, 2013 08:52 AM (ma/2m) WTOP isn't flaming liberal, but they are 100% inside the beltway

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 04:58 AM (FsUAO)

241 @ 234 that works about as well as trying to bring Latino's into the former GOP , now the ISAC Party..

Posted by: Clemenza at March 01, 2013 04:58 AM (x59Gv)

242 One additional thing:

There is indeed in America an unequal treatment of citizens, buttressed by arguments that such inequality is for the public good, enabled by a majority trying to control the actions of a minority, with frequent animus against the minority apparent, where the motivating reason for action against the minority does in fact seem to be based largely upon emotion, or at least an emotionally-based belief system, and that does result in substantial loss to that minority.

But enough about progressive income taxation.

Posted by: T. at March 01, 2013 04:58 AM (hUOZC)

243 WASHINGTON Â— After months of resisting an expansion of the Violence Against Women Act, House Republicans raised the white flag Thursday on extending domestic violence protections to gays, lesbians and transsexuals. ???? OK, but who is NOT protected? And protected from what?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 04:59 AM (9Bj8R)

244 236 Skandia Recluse,

If a billionaire would start by buying up all the distressed property he could leverage, and then gave free one way bus tickets to New Jersey, New York, California, and Washington State to the remaining citizens with 500-1000 bucks spending money and bulldozed the town to the ground everyone would be better off...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 04:59 AM (LRFds)

245 Thanks - MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit ----- sven - LOL.

Posted by: Baldy at March 01, 2013 05:00 AM (opS9C)

246

Obama had no idea we were starting a catch and release program for illegal aliens.

Hopefully before they released them ICE did the smart thing and tagged their ears.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 05:00 AM (4df7R)

247 @ 242 that was a lesson learned by some from the Emperor of Japan..

Posted by: Clemenza at March 01, 2013 05:00 AM (x59Gv)

248 If Christian Heinze really believes the media's "love" of Chris Christie would last five minutes past his declaration for the GOP nomination, he ought to find another line of work.

Posted by: Ken at March 01, 2013 05:01 AM (fFh95)

249
236 RE: Detroit
" The team found that "no satisfactory plan exists to resolve a serious
financial problem" in the city, leaving Snyder to mull over whether to
appoint a manager."
Hot News Flash. There is still no satisfactory plan to resolve the serious financial problem. The only change is who writes the checks. The Detroit political structure remains in place, the Detroit politicians who caused the problem remain in place. The only change is the signature on the checks, now signed by the State. Same arithmetic, same bills, same problems, no solution.

What should be done is bankruptcy, and new management.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 01, 2013 08:55 AM (v1dFx)

6 months from now at Gov. Snyder's press conference: I'm pleased to announce that Omni Consumer Products was successful in their bid for taking over the management of Detroit....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 05:01 AM (da5Wo)

250 When does VAWA actually go into effect.
Got some people I want to inflict violence on while it's still legal.

Without this Act, it's legal to beat up women.....right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2013 05:01 AM (FFq98)

251 245 baldy,

always ready to be a ray of sunshine...

although seriously the last thing I'd ever want to do is wreck the dawn patrol's day...

If I ever wake up too snarly don't hesitate to put me outside to chase squirrels...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:02 AM (LRFds)

252 A Deep South state with a very disproportionate number of evangelicals. A train wreck.

--

If SC was so evangelical, above everything else, we would've voted Santorum over Gingrich.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 01, 2013 05:02 AM (ATdet)

253 RE: Green Jobs,

This is money laundering and fraud. Fabricate a business plan using fraudulent accounting. Submit proposal for federal grant money. Powerful politician used power of office to grant large sums of money directly from US Treasury. Company receiving grant money pays off business cronies, and money filters back to powerful politician who authorized the federal grant. Powerful politician loots US Treasury indirectly by having money change hands several times so that his fingerprints aren't on the money directly.

It's corruption of the worst kind. Everybody shrugs, who's gonna stop it?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 01, 2013 05:03 AM (v1dFx)

254 WASHINGTON Â— After months of resisting an expansion of the Violence Against Women Act, House Republicans raised the white flag Thursday on extending domestic violence protections to gays, lesbians and transsexuals.

???? OK, but who is NOT protected? And protected from what?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 08:59 AM (9Bj8R)

The Republicans ought to change their name to the French Party in honor of all of the surrendering they do

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2013 05:03 AM (1Jaio)

255 6 months from now at Gov. Snyder's press conference: I'm pleased to announce that Omni Consumer Products was successful in their bid for taking over the management of Detroit....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 09:01 AM (da5Wo)

Having ED-209's on the streets there would likely be an improvement. Hell it certainly couldn't be worse.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 05:03 AM (GULKT)

256 Without this Act, it's legal to beat up women.....right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2013 09:01 AM (FFq9

Technically it was a reauthorization, so the bones of VAWA have been on the books for a while. This reauthorization, however, expanded the definitions to include gays, lesbians, and transsexuals. So if you've got any of those you'd like to beat up, have at it while it's still legal!... or something!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 05:03 AM (4df7R)

257 Fugly Napolitano now says she had nothing to do with the release of the illegals Hmmm. I'm sensing a patern. Holder - I didn't know about arming murderers. HiLIARy - I didn't know muslims would kill our ambassador if we left him unguarded. Jim Napolitano - I didn't know we released criminals to go back killing. And of course SCOAMF - I didn't know they didn't know.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 01, 2013 05:04 AM (UU0OF)

258 I know nothing

Posted by: Sec Napolitano at March 01, 2013 05:04 AM (e8kgV)

259 "Stifle the pro-lifers"? What the hell are you talking about? Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 01, 2013 07:52 AM (XBUdh)" Are you really this clueless?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 01, 2013 05:05 AM (yCvxi)

260 @ 253 Tom Clancy posting as Skandia Recluse!!!! That has been going on in earnest Since LBJ...

Posted by: Clemenza at March 01, 2013 05:05 AM (x59Gv)

261 And of course SCOAMF - I didn't know they didn't know.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262Â© at March 01, 2013 09:04 AM (UU0OF)

More like, "I didn't know that they didn't know, because I didn't know either."

All this "I had no idea!"-ing is ridiculous. After a while someone has to start asking, "So, do you actually know anything that happens under your purview? Or do you just not give a shit? Because either way, you're unfit for the job."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 05:07 AM (4df7R)

262 >>>All factors being equal -- the health of the relationship, economic stability, etc., -- a hetero marriage is the superior environment for raising children.

Is that what gay marriage is about? Raising children?

Posted by: Fritz at March 01, 2013 05:07 AM (WM+rJ)

263 Victory for WH: we are talking about what they said to Woodward, not what he said about Barky displaying "a madness".

Posted by: sherlock at March 01, 2013 05:08 AM (R8gzo)

264 "but they are 100% inside the beltway" that's true. but they rotate Gregory, Todd, and Schieffer for their political news. and it's round after round of "why won't somebody do something." today they had man-on-the street interviews with federal workers* regarding furloughs. welcome to the club guys. nobody interviewed my coworkers when the firm let 50 people go one day in 2009. *(former fed myself)

Posted by: DCPensFan at March 01, 2013 05:08 AM (ma/2m)

265 Mooch Says She DoesnÂ’t Care About People Who Criticized Her For Crashing The OscarsÂ… - See more at: http://weaselzippers.us/#sthash.JlEIGWuo.dpuf But enough about that, is it vacation time yet?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 05:09 AM (9Bj8R)

266 253 Skandia recluse,

who can stop it?

I'm gonna tell you what we're facing in schools right now, and why it will only get worse.

My son is an 8th grader, Monday he comes home the usual 'how was day boy?' Good dad routine so an hour later we're driving south to go get wife from the base....

"Dad I'm sorta mad."

Why is that son?

"well we talked about energy today in social studies and what do you think the most popular was between solar, wind, nuclear, or fossil fuels?"

Solar son.

"it's worse than that it was a split between solar and wind despite the teacher admitting that it could never match current consumption to even 50%, 2 nuclear, and i was the only one who pointed out fossil fuels are due a boom are already the most efficient cost to KW wise and can be used to foster and fund research into integrating the other choices or moving nuclear towards fusion."

Well son what reason did any of the solar/wind kids give for voting for it anyway?"

"One girl Nancy says she wants to save the polar bear who was drowning, and the guys say they want the world to not face global warming disasters."

*silence*

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:09 AM (LRFds)

267 Hi A.B. Really miss you down here.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 01, 2013 05:09 AM (p/cQy)

268 Is that what gay marriage is about? Raising children?

Posted by: Fritz at March 01, 2013 09:07 AM (WM+rJ)

Gay couples sued in states like Massachusetts to get equal consideration for adoption. They won and the result was that Catholic organizations no longer do adoptions

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 05:10 AM (GULKT)

269 So I see Spain's unemployment rate is a scintillating 26.2%. Gosh, I sure wish we could be more like Europe!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 05:11 AM (4df7R)

270 MWR

"So if you've got any of those you'd like to beat up, have at it while it's still legal!... or something!"

Maybe I should just stick to assaulting straight white males with a baseball bat.
That's still good, right?

And if I smack a straight white male, who used to be a white female lesbian, who has since had an addadicktome and retains a preference for women, I'm still good too, right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2013 05:11 AM (FFq98)

271 259 Burn the Witch,

No he is not.

I respect Gabe's intellect, I value his thoughts on several legal topics, but on this issue he is while not as odious as Andrew Sullivan definitely closer to Andrew's neighborhood than mine.

To my shame, because I knew that social liberal "fiscal conservative" would crucify us harder than even the media I jumped on the "Nail Akin" wagon hard.

Not wanting to tear open that wound, but the idea or the notion that the pro-life wing is not put upon is "funny."

That said we have bigger more unifying(in theory) fish to fry right now.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:12 AM (LRFds)

272 59 Hey, Skydiving from a B-17. Been there, done that. It costs $400. The Mrs. bout lost her shit. She got over it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 07:18 AM (l86i3)

That sounds like the way to go. Jumping out of a B-17 would be like the movies, just step outside the door.

When I went through it, we had to make 5 static line jumps to do a freefall. We were all jammed into a tiny little plane with only a pilot's seat - everyone else had to squat.

To jump, you had to reach out and grab a greasy strut, then step on to a little metal step. This is happening as the plane is doing 90 or 100 miles an hour. If you don't think it's hard, wind the Prius up to 100 and stick your arm out the window.

On top of that, your mind is making mental calculations the whole time figuring the pressure of the wind against your body and how close you were to the tail surfaces that you were sure you would hit when you let go.

All in all a good time.

Posted by: jwest at March 01, 2013 05:14 AM (u2a4R)

273 #268 - It was Catholic Charities, a Boston adoption agency that specialized in hard to place kids. But remember: same-sex marriage if for the children, you guys!
http://tinyurl.com/rk72m

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2013 05:14 AM (is6Me)

274 The Republicans ought to change their name to the French Party in honor of all of the surrendering they do

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2013 09:03 AM (1Jaio)

Please let's show some elite RINO class and call it the Vichy Party!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 01, 2013 05:14 AM (Cnqmv)

275 Sven, my kid had to bring in pictures of recyclables. I printed out some glowing nuclear fuel rods. He told the class they could be recycled into bombs to kill communists and Muslims. School hasn't called yet.

Posted by: Jean at March 01, 2013 05:14 AM (gKGI0)

276 Illinois GOP party chairman Pat Brady came out in in favor of gay marriage. And now gay marriage opponents want to oust him. OH NOES!!! THEY WANT TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS!!!

Posted by: Ace's Anus at March 01, 2013 05:15 AM (ZJ/un)

277 Morning all.....Hi Andrew!!!

Groupon fired their co-founder CEO today. Here's the first part of his statement:

After four and a half intense and wonderful years as CEO of Groupon, I've decided that I'd like to spend more time with my family. Just kidding Â— I was fired today.

Lol!

Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 01, 2013 05:15 AM (X6akg)

278 275 Jean,

Hello fellow child of the cold war...

welcome home.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:15 AM (LRFds)

279 Humm..I hang with fat friends to make me look thinner...Fatter than I Friends, that is.

Posted by: Paladin at March 01, 2013 05:16 AM (4kpbt)

280 >>>Gay couples sued in states like Massachusetts to get equal consideration for adoption. They won and the result was that Catholic organizations no longer do adoptions

Well, I would think that adoption is the only reason gays would want to marry. At the same time, orphans should be given a choice in the matter as well, - simply because having two daddies could prove to be a lifelong traumatic experience.

Posted by: Fritz at March 01, 2013 05:16 AM (WM+rJ)

281 Posted by: Jean at March 01, 2013 09:14 AM (gKGI0)

Kudos to you. I think your kids will turn out fine!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 01, 2013 05:17 AM (Cnqmv)

282 Read the 2016 field piece. I think we have to be resigned to whomever the R establishment wants to run. We can dream of a Rand Paul or a Rubio but I honestly wonder if what the people want even matters any more.

All I know is that if whoever gets into power does not put people from this administration into prison nothing will change in the future. The next Obama will be totally unfettered (not that this one is much).

Posted by: dandalo at March 01, 2013 05:17 AM (GAJm6)

283 279 Paladin,

That would be Mike Huckadoodle and Krispy kreme yes?

the comedy team of Hardy and Hardy

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:17 AM (LRFds)

284
275 Sven, my kid had to bring in pictures of recyclables. I printed out some glowing nuclear fuel rods. He told the class they could be recycled into bombs to kill communists and Muslims. School hasn't called yet.

Posted by: Jean at March 01, 2013 09:14 AM (gKGI0)

My kid had to do a President's day project. A poster of favorite President. I was all over that. Reagan, of course. Printed out pics of him in front of a flag, wearing a cowboy hat, riding a horse and with Nancy.

The wife, however, wouldn't let me give the poster the subtitle of "Ronaldus Maximus". I was pretty disappointed about that.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 05:19 AM (da5Wo)

285 simply because having two daddies could prove to be a lifelong traumatic experience.

Posted by: Fritz at March 01, 2013 09:16 AM (WM+rJ)

C'mon now, centuries of experience have shown us that every culture, every civilization, every form of government, every religion, every set of laws is equal and we shouldn't judge!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 01, 2013 05:19 AM (Cnqmv)

286 So I see Spain's unemployment rate is a scintillating 26.2%. Gosh, I sure wish we could be more like Europe! Give it a year.

Posted by: zsasz at March 01, 2013 05:20 AM (MMC8r)

287

Maybe I should just stick to assaulting straight white males with a baseball bat.
That's still good, right?

Oh, absolutely. In fact I'd say it's actively encouraged! Visit your closest N.O.W. office to get a free bat.

And if I smack a straight white male, who used to be a white female lesbian, who has since had an addadicktome and retains a preference for women, I'm still good too, right?

Well, that's a bit more difficult. Would this individual count as a transsexual/transgendered person? If so, were you aware of their trans-ness BEFORE the bat attack? If the answer to either of those is yes, you could easily be up shit creek without a paddle.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 05:20 AM (4df7R)

288 I've already taken them to the diocese over Kwanzaa and they are looking for more cash, so I'm probably clear right now.

Posted by: Jean at March 01, 2013 05:20 AM (gKGI0)

289 He told the class they could be recycled into bombs to kill communists and Muslims.

Posted by: Jean at March 01, 2013 09:14 AM (gKGI0)

Marvelous!

Buy that kid a beer!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 05:20 AM (GsoHv)

290 Fugly Napolitano now says she had nothing to do with the release of the illegals

Hmmm. I'm sensing a patern.
Holder - I didn't know about arming murderers.
HiLIARy - I didn't know muslims would kill our ambassador if we left him unguarded.
Jim Napolitano - I didn't know we released criminals to go back killing.
And of course SCOAMF - I didn't know they didn't know.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262Â© at March 01, 2013 09:04 AM (UU0OF)

Sgt. Schultz ought to apply for a job with this administration

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2013 05:20 AM (1Jaio)

291 http://tinyurl.com/czag3lb

Investors.com points out that Giggles calls 1 trillion in new taxes...swear to God "spending cuts"....

fucking assholes....

Dear God break this nation up, we'll pay you a ransom in shale garnered oil assholes....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:20 AM (LRFds)

292 Sven, my kid had to bring in pictures of recyclables. I printed out some glowing nuclear fuel rods. He told the class they could be recycled into bombs to kill communists and Muslims. School hasn't called yet.

Posted by: Jean at March 01, 2013 09:14 AM (gKGI0)

THAT.

IS.

AWESOME.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 05:20 AM (4df7R)

293

wind the Prius up to 100...

JWest

***

I don't have a Prius. I'm a male.

I do hunt them, however.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 01, 2013 05:22 AM (uhftQ)

294 " All factors being equal -- the health of the relationship, economic stability, etc., -- a hetero marriage is the superior environment for raising children." Heh. Decades ago, CompuServe Issues forum, I got serious blowback when I suggested, not just het pair, but "all else equal," the actual bio parents are best for the kids. Pro-adopts argued, ignoring the "all else equal" aspect. In practice, all is rarely equal, and in some cases, a kid might be better off with caring, respectful group gay parents than a brutal, drunken pair of bio het parents. A female Olympic weight-lifter may have more upper-torso strength than most men, too but she doesn't change the average significantly. My 2c for today. Since I'm sitting here writing all serious you guys, with my usual timing, I figure the horde has moved on to the next thread, right?....

Posted by: a mindful webworker at March 01, 2013 05:22 AM (sItLn)

295 292 MWR,

That's like my son in the 5th grade telling his class on "career day" when asked what his mom did....

"Human resources work for the people that kill terrorists."

teacher was not amused, and likely less so when I explained to her that I am rather honest with my son about what my wife does.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:22 AM (LRFds)

296 How exactly do you prosecute someone for hitting a gay person, how do you prove they were "gay", how do they prove the plaintiff knew? With all the metrosexual guys running around in tight jeans, who can tell? Are gays going to have to keep a video record of their fetish exploits in case they get mugged?

Posted by: Jean at March 01, 2013 05:23 AM (VHfsw)

297 I'm tired of these assholes trying to buck the party platform. Fuck them. They are just like Bradly Manning. Trying to force the rest of the nation to follow their own personal conversions. You aren't there to expound on your personal epiphany.

Beyond that, they have a completely fucked up sense of priorities. "Gay Marriage" should not be on anyone's radar screen. We have Debt problems and Fascist problems. "Gay Marriage" ought to be number 73 on anyone's list of important issues facing the nation.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 05:23 AM (bb5+k)

298 That's like my son in the 5th grade telling his class on "career day" when asked what his mom did....

"Human resources work for the people that kill terrorists."

teacher was not amused, and likely less so when I explained to her that I am rather honest with my son about what my wife does.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 09:22 AM (LRFds)

That is pure awesomeness. Sounds like you're raising the boy right!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 01, 2013 05:23 AM (DrWcr)

299 269 So I see Spain's unemployment rate is a scintillating 26.2%. Gosh, I sure wish we could be more like Europe!

Well now if they had the JEFs accountants calculating the unemployment rate they would be sub 8%.

Posted by: ET at March 01, 2013 05:23 AM (YpjaN)

300 I don't have a Prius. I'm a male.
I do hunt them, however.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 01, 2013 09:22 AM (uhftQ)

Does a Prius have enough calories to support a killer whale's activity level? Or is it just ruffage?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 05:24 AM (4df7R)

301 CO will find out pretty quick that taxing weed will be just about as easy as enforcing a $5 tomato tax.

Posted by: Whatev at March 01, 2013 05:24 AM (A7Wh1)

302 All in all a good time. Posted by: jwest at March 01, 2013 09:14 AM (u2a4R) Never did static line. I went accelerated free fall. I was a Coach and a Tandem master, logged almost 1000 jumps, compared to my friends that wasn't much.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 05:24 AM (l86i3)

303 An F-150 is a half-ton.
Girl truck.

Posted by: comatus at March 01, 2013 05:24 AM (qaVK+)

304 by the way as a prior preparer on taxes let me give y'all a heads up...

the trades are saying IRS is seeing the LOWEST amount of revenue seen after paying out credits and withholdings over the tax liability EVER as a percentage in modern times.....

Helluva an economy there barry....

Remember during the campaign when they released that fucking 7.8% UE3 claim?

yeah I have the sneaking suspicion they cooked the books as hard as my mom cooked our roasts...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:25 AM (LRFds)

305

[i"Human resources work for the people that kill terrorists."
[/i]

I LOVE IT. lol! Good kid!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 05:26 AM (4df7R)

306 I guess it is a good thing the Dems didn't think to call it the Killing Puppies Sequester Act, or the pubs would have rolled over on that as well.

Posted by: Invictus at March 01, 2013 05:26 AM (OQpzc)

307 Well, that's a bit more difficult. Would this individual count as a transsexual/transgendered person? If so, were you aware of their trans-ness BEFORE the bat attack? If the answer to either of those is yes, you could easily be up shit creek without a paddle.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 01, 2013 09:20 AM (4df7R)

In a sane world, "Transgender" ought to result in instant acknowledgement that someone is suffering from a serious mental illness. Thinking that one's biology is wrong is no different from thinking you are a chicken or Napoleon.

If you've got a "y" chromosome, you are male. Get over it.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 05:26 AM (bb5+k)

308 Remember during the campaign when they released that fucking 7.8% UE3 claim?

yeah I have the sneaking suspicion they cooked the books as hard as my mom cooked our roasts...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 09:25 AM (LRFds)

I never believed that crap for a second. The Chicago Nazi thugs are in charge of collecting that data. A person would have to be a fool to think that they wouldn't manipulate it the way they manipulate elections and attempt to manipulate everything else.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 05:28 AM (bb5+k)

309 the trades are saying IRS is seeing the LOWEST amount of revenue seen after paying out credits and withholdings over the tax liability EVER as a percentage in modern times.....
================
there's an "unexpectedly" in there some where, I'm sure.

BTW: "Enjoy the Decline" is a hell of a book.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 01, 2013 05:29 AM (VjL9S)

310 I'm stunned I haven't gotten a call from my daughter's school. (She's in Kindergarten btw.)

Two of the more notable incidents:

1) First time they had some sort of snack/special occasion thing in her class, they pass out the food and suddenly she jumps up on her chair and yells "Wait!!! No one eat! We haven't said the blessing yet!" She then folded her hands, closed her eyes and said the blessing we always say over our meals.

2) Week before election the teacher informs them that there will be a school wide vote and they need to talk to their parents and decide who to vote for. (Why the fuck are kindergarteners voting?) The teacher then goes on to inform the 5 years olds about how she's voting for Obama and why. (The fuck, bitch???) Up goes my little girl's hand immediately. "Yes Brittany?" "Well I'm voting for Mitt Romney." "Why?" "Because he believes in Jesus and knows how to make money. Obama doesn't."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 05:30 AM (da5Wo)

311 How exactly do you prosecute someone for hitting a gay person, how do you prove they were "gay", how do they prove the plaintiff knew? With all the metrosexual guys running around in tight jeans, who can tell? Are gays going to have to keep a video record of their fetish exploits in case they get mugged? Posted by: Jean at March 01, 2013 09:23 AM (VHfsw) Well since there is not such thing as muslim terrorism, what else do the police have to do?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 05:30 AM (9Bj8R)

312

So I see Bammy's Kenyan half brother (jiminy Christmas, how many does he have?) is running for governor of the county of Siaya.

Link to story at the AP: http://tiny.cc/0ju9sw

This is my favorite quote from the article:

Malik Obama - a half-brother of Barack Obama - is running for a governor's position in the country's nationwide elections on Monday, though he said he's not sure what impact his relationship to the American president has on his campaign.

Blood relative to the Preezy of the United Steezy? Yeah, whatevs. No big deal.

I bet that chafes Bammy's ass something fierce. "What do you mean it might not mean anything? I'm important! I'm the President! WHY WON'T EVERYONE LOVE ME!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 05:30 AM (4df7R)

313 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 09:24 AM (l86i3)

Our 18-year-old wants to skydive.

Any advice?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 05:30 AM (GsoHv)

314 Sex change operations were initially done with the acknowledgement that it was merely a physical procedure to reduce some of the magnitude of what were, truly, deep emotional and mental issues. Now it's become some touchstone of victim liberation.

Posted by: zsasz at March 01, 2013 05:30 AM (MMC8r)

315 Up goes my little girl's hand immediately. "Yes Brittany?" "Well I'm voting for Mitt Romney." "Why?" "Because he believes in Jesus and knows how to make money. Obama doesn't."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 09:30 AM (da5Wo)

AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME. Give that girl a gold star!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 05:32 AM (4df7R)

316 "Thinking that one's biology is wrong is no different from thinking you are a chicken or Napoleon."

South Park did a hilarious episode on this - where a character believed he was a dolphin and was surgically altered to become one.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2013 05:32 AM (is6Me)

317 308 Diogenes Lamp,

I have the sneaking suspicion that at best they won using cooked books and at worst used the combination of cooked books and spigot cities to STEAL the damn thing.

I think Bambi was legit freaking out the last week prior to Christie's blowjob.

Of course my blessed GOP refuses to investigate and the goddamned media?

Yeah they tried to trace every single vote in Florida but by golly they can't take a hard hard look at voting patterns in the inner cities?

The game is rigged and we don't have the will to force our politicians to fight the damn thing and if necessary compete on the new battlefield.

As others have pointed out upthread and I was pointing out with my picque at Gabe this morning....Gay marriage is fucking issue 73 or 55 or 96 or whatever there's bigger damned fish to fry.

SoCon had to give up a lot of his pet anxieties in '12 and it is probably time for the FABULOUS wing to take one for the team too....

we are bleeding out.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:33 AM (LRFds)

318 AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME. Give that girl a gold star!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 01, 2013 09:32 AM (4df7R)

Once I got done laughing, she got a big hug. And extra dessert at dinner.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 05:33 AM (da5Wo)

319 bcochran

Posted by: phoenixgirl member of WAVAWA at March 01, 2013 05:33 AM (GVxQo)

320 This is a guy that got the IL GOP out of debt. He's raised $8 million for the party in a blue state. He's cut IL GOP administrative costs by 70% while upgrading their data center. Oh, and he did it all as a volunteer. But, please, let's get rid of effective Republicans for holding the same position on marriage as the last Republican vice president; that's a smart move.

Posted by Gabriel Malor

As much as arguing that Bradly Manning was an effective soldier. Misses the point entirely. When I go to war, I am less interested in knowing that my fellow soldier is a damn fine shot, or that he can march forever with 150 pounds on his back. My primary interest in him is knowing whether or not he is on my side and that I can trust him.

It does me no good to be in the ranks with damn fine soldiers who also happen to work for the enemy. Capiche?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 05:34 AM (bb5+k)

321 This is interesting. It's an article by Father Oko of the Catholic Church about the "lavender mafia", homosexual priests that blocked the investigation into the sex abuse scandals. http://is.gd/l52zNP

Posted by: notsothoreau at March 01, 2013 05:34 AM (Lqy/e)

322

Alteratively, we could ask why, if Brady is such an effective governour, would he jeopardise all that by needlessly involving himself in a hot button issue that is sure to fracture his own Party and only help the Democrats through said fracture?

Face it - Brady was presented with schmuck bait, and he took it like a schmuck.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at March 01, 2013 05:35 AM (YYJjz)

323 #21 taking dietary advice from Eat this Not That

Posted by: runninrebel at March 01, 2013 05:35 AM (sL+oi)

324 2) Week before election the teacher informs them that there will be a school wide vote and they need to talk to their parents and decide who to vote for. (Why the fuck are kindergarteners voting?) The teacher then goes on to inform the 5 years olds about how she's voting for Obama and why. (The fuck, bitch???) Up goes my little girl's hand immediately. "Yes Brittany?" "Well I'm voting for Mitt Romney." "Why?" "Because he believes in Jesus and knows how to make money. Obama doesn't."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 09:30 AM (da5Wo)

Good for your little girl! But WTF do teachers have to do this?! Especially with kindergarteners. And WTF does the teacher have to interject who SHE'S voting for?! No coercion there...nosireee. Completely unbiased.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 01, 2013 05:35 AM (X6akg)

325

Biden Advises Shooting Shotgun Through Door; Virginia Beach Man Arrested For Doing Just That

Link to US News: http://tiny.cc/hru9sw

Vice President Joe Biden told Field & Stream magazine in an interview published Monday, "[if] you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door."

Coincidentally, a 22-year-old man in Virginia Beach, Va., was charged Monday with reckless handling of a firearm after doing just that a couple days earlier.

Local TV station WAVY 10 reports that the man observed two masked men leaning into his bedroom window. The men allegedly had weapons and told him to close his bedroom door. He stepped outside of his bedroom and did as instructed, then fired his shotgun through the closed door and then several more times at the window.

According to the news report there were no injuries and the suspects were not apprehended by police...

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 05:36 AM (4df7R)

326 It does me no good to be in the ranks with damn fine soldiers who also happen to work for the enemy. Capiche?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 09:34 AM (bb5+k)

Sure it does. Short range makes for an easier shot.

Posted by: maddogg at March 01, 2013 05:36 AM (OlN4e)

327 Our 18-year-old wants to skydive.

Any advice?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 09:30 AM (GsoHv)

Wear a parachute.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 01, 2013 05:37 AM (DrWcr)

328 232 Why do you pathetic right-wingers insist on this racist hate for our President and his policies? Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 01, 2013 08:54 AM (jCQ+I) So, tell me, please differentiate for me what a legitimate criticism of the president would be and a racist one. Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 05:37 AM (48jWE)

329 Sex change operations were initially done with the acknowledgement that it was merely a physical procedure to reduce some of the magnitude of what were, truly, deep emotional and mental issues.

Now it's become some touchstone of victim liberation.

Posted by: zsasz at March 01, 2013 09:30 AM (MMC8r)

At what point does society have an obligation to tell a crazy person that they are crazy? Why should society participate in this charade? It doesn't help either the individual, or the society.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 05:37 AM (bb5+k)

330 http://tinyurl.com/ckpxhzv vacuuming and laundry the new INSANITY?

Posted by: phoenixgirl member of WAVAWA at March 01, 2013 05:38 AM (GVxQo)

331 You've got to give Obama Sr. credit for at least one thing; he sure knew how to pick fertile women.

Posted by: Fritz at March 01, 2013 05:38 AM (WM+rJ)

332 324 Tami,

They've been doing it since I was in school as well.

Basically I suspect they have been trying to program us since the '30s...

the difference between the current kids and prior generations was the inherent wisdom that my decidedly unintellectual cousin once expressed to me about my strange political rage at 16...

"sven I don't know enough to know what i don't know about it...let me get back to my welding."

That was wise for most teens and 20 somethings.....think back on how many did legit research into the issues.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:38 AM (LRFds)

333
Our 18-year-old wants to skydive.

Any advice?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 09:30 AM (GsoHv)

(You) Drink heavily while he's doing it.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 05:38 AM (bb5+k)

334 316 "Thinking that one's biology is wrong is no different from thinking you are a chicken or Napoleon."

South Park did a hilarious episode on this - where a character believed he was a dolphin and was surgically altered to become one.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2013 09:32 AM (is6Me)

You mean I'm not really a woman? I'm just a man with a mutilated penis?

Posted by: Mrs. Garrison at March 01, 2013 05:39 AM (GULKT)

335 275 Sven, my kid had to bring in pictures of recyclables. I printed out some glowing nuclear fuel rods. He told the class they could be recycled into bombs to kill communists and Muslims. School hasn't called yet. Love to hear the next generation is be raised properly.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 01, 2013 05:39 AM (ubk1s)

336 Remember during the campaign when they released that fucking 7.8% UE3 claim?

yeah I have the sneaking suspicion they cooked the books as hard as my mom cooked our roasts...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 09:25 AM (LRFds)

They didn't need to cook the books on the official unemployment rate - by design it falls if people give up looking for work and thus exit the labor force rather than continuing to seek work and thus counting as unemployed. Of course, since the U-3 measure was first created in 1948 there had never been a prolonged period of low employment until Obama, so this aspect of the U-3 rate hadn't created that much distortion from reality until the last few years. Holding the labor force participation constant from January 2009, the U-3 rate would be 10.9% for January 2013.

Posted by: DKCZ at March 01, 2013 05:40 AM (9/bcB)

337

Our 18-year-old wants to skydive.

Any advice?

get a huge insurance policy on him, then volunteer to pack his chute

Posted by: navycopjoe at March 01, 2013 05:40 AM (3r8Vz)

338 South Park did a hilarious episode on this - where a character believed he was a dolphin and was surgically altered to become one.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2013 09:32 AM (is6Me)

I don't watch it, but I have to admit (from what I hear of it) that South Park is an equal opportunity skewerer. They WILL go after Liberal sacred cows too.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 05:40 AM (bb5+k)

339

"CHICAGO Â• Taxes on cigarettes sold in Cook County are going up by one dollar a pack.

Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle says the tax, which takes effect Friday, is expected to generate more than $25 million annually for the Cook County Health and Hospitals System."

oh , I'm sure that will be the case ....

Posted by: ET at March 01, 2013 05:40 AM (YpjaN)

340 333 Our 18-year-old wants to skydive. Any advice? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 09:30 AM (GsoHv) Well, it's safer than muff diving.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 05:40 AM (48jWE)

341 Our 18-year-old wants to skydive. Any advice? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 09:30 AM (GsoHv) A) join the Marines first B) over my dead body

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 05:40 AM (9Bj8R)

342 335 Foghorn leghorn,

my only fear is I am raising him and if they win total control en perpetual via 10,000 guys named Juan I have raised a social pariah

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:40 AM (LRFds)

343 "Because he believes in Jesus and knows how to make money. Obama doesn't." That's the funniest thing I've read all week (and I saw Iowahawks Twitter reports live from the sequester). You da man, BC!

Posted by: Ian S. at March 01, 2013 05:41 AM (OevbG)

344 we are bleeding out.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 09:33 AM (LRFds)

Didn't Reagan say something about pale pink pastels inspire no one?

Bit of irony in that, eh?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 05:42 AM (bb5+k)

345 I once heard the guys who write Southpark say they didn't like conservatives, but they really, really hated liberals.

Posted by: maddogg at March 01, 2013 05:42 AM (OlN4e)

346 If I'm not mistaken, CBD's 18 year old is a she.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 01, 2013 05:42 AM (X6akg)

347 Obama gives specific targeted Executive Orders aimed at destroying the Constitution and doesn't want to know that they're doing that; there is the scandal... Oh wait, he is a Constitutional scholar - he knows exactly what he is doing - never mind.

Posted by: An Observation at March 01, 2013 05:42 AM (ylhEn)

348 I don't watch it, but I have to admit (from what I hear of it) that South Park is an equal opportunity skewerer. They WILL go after Liberal sacred cows too.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 09:40 AM (bb5+k)

A little South Park goes a long way, but they definitely aren't afraid to hammer both sides of pretty much any political, social or cultural issue.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 05:43 AM (4df7R)

349 Does a Prius have enough calories to support a killer whale's activity level? Or is it just ruffage?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit

***

They are little more than fiber, BUT if there are those sandal wearing long seals inside, they can.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 01, 2013 05:43 AM (uhftQ)

350 232 Why do you pathetic right-wingers insist on this racist hate for our President and his policies?
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 01, 2013 08:54 AM (jCQ+I)

So, tell me, please differentiate for me what a legitimate criticism of the president would be and a racist one. Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 09:37 AM (48jWE)

There is none. We're just supposed to be sycophantic, servile prols in awe of his majesty and feel damn lucky he's gracious enough to be our prezzy. You know, be just like the MFM

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2013 05:43 AM (1Jaio)

351 Alteratively, we could ask why, if Brady is such an effective governour, would he jeopardise all that by needlessly involving himself in a hot button issue that is sure to fracture his own Party and only help the Democrats through said fracture?

Face it - Brady was presented with schmuck bait, and he took it like a schmuck.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at March 01, 2013 09:35 AM (YYJjz)

Exactly. Jumping on an issue which is specifically calculated to piss off a huge chunk of your base is smart how?

You think you are going to make an announcement and everyone is just going to salute your opinion? Fuck you.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 05:44 AM (bb5+k)

352 I once heard the guys who write Southpark say they didn't like conservatives, but they really, really hated liberals.

Posted by: maddogg

***

They are libertarians by their own admission.

And yes, they make fun of everything regardless of politics.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 01, 2013 05:44 AM (uhftQ)

353 336 DKCZ,

yeah James P and i were pointing that out so hard and fast we were probably acting as a gyroscope for Earth...

UE3 falling was mostly U6 backfill which of course the Ogabe Dumpling gang spun as 'well duh dumbass retirements"

er "yeah".....

Hell James P went to the trouble to make a very nice academic level study and initital analysis of labor participation rates as you just intoned....

and guess what Tapper (the great white hope) shrugged and Reince Preibus and Team Romney blew off the data and kept acknowledging "the economy is mostly okay sorta but I can do better"....

no Mitt the economy is a stagflationary joke with anemic employment growth and by Jesus you should have sworn to try to right the damn ship....

anyway water under the bridge....

my best advice is keep an eye on the sweet spot where your reserve cash grabs the best gain right before hyperinflation hits....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:45 AM (LRFds)

354
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 09:34 AM (bb5+k) Sure it does. Short range makes for an easier shot.

Posted by: maddogg at March 01, 2013 09:36 AM (OlN4e)

The problem is, you have to know they're the enemy. Traitors have a habit of hiding their true intentions.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 05:45 AM (bb5+k)

355 345 I once heard the guys who write Southpark say they didn't like conservatives, but they really, really hated liberals.

Posted by: maddogg at March 01, 2013 09:42 AM (OlN4e)

Yep they said that. They were also on Penn Jillette's podcast talking about Bush one time and they were talking about how they are critical of him. But they were critical of the actual policies and that liberals were just critical because its not "their guy."

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 05:46 AM (GULKT)

356 The problem is, you have to know they're the enemy. Traitors have a habit of hiding their true intentions.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 09:45 AM (bb5+k)

Notable exception: da Zero

Posted by: maddogg at March 01, 2013 05:47 AM (OlN4e)

357 what's so bad about horse meat?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 01, 2013 05:47 AM (gtTDa)

358 @ 201

Jeff has sequestered his snow shovel for a period of time.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 01, 2013 05:47 AM (SAMxH)

359 Dont fear wingnuts, Gabe is right. I can save you from fhe stigma of being uncool. Posted by: Gay Marriage You say "stigma of being uncool" like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 01, 2013 05:49 AM (GFM2b)

360 357 what's so bad about horse meat?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 01, 2013 09:47 AM (gtTDa)

Horses are prettier than cows.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 05:49 AM (da5Wo)

361 what's so bad about horse meat? Posted by: soothsayer at March 01, 2013 09:47 AM (gtTDa) I don't know. What so bad about cannibalism?

Posted by: Mr. ED at March 01, 2013 05:49 AM (9Bj8R)

362

Yes, the Illinois GOP is doing terrific.

Posted by: ejo at March 01, 2013 05:49 AM (GXvSO)

363 I'm sick of hearing from the gays. And I'm sick of fake conservatives giving them a louder voice. I don't agree with their lifestyle, period, and I will never agree to embracing it. This whole issue is about them forcing everybody else to "approve" of them. Well, I don't, and I never will. No amount of harassing me will change my mind. What I would be for is doing away with the state-level institution of marriage altogether. Marriage should be a church ceremony and nothing more. I would be 100% for a benign "civil contract" that doesn't have the word "marriage" in it anywhere. And then anybody can go into a civil contract with anybody for any damn reason.

Posted by: Andrew at March 01, 2013 05:50 AM (HS3dy)

364

Gay marriage = Gay adoption. Are you saying you're sweet on gay males adopting - and dressing young children in studded leather neck collars to bring them to Pride events?

Posted by: Markon at March 01, 2013 05:50 AM (9oZ1/)

365
So, tell me, please differentiate for me what a legitimate criticism of the president would be and a racist one. Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2013 09:37 AM (48jWE)

A point I try to make is that refusing to acknowledge that someone is screwing things up is itself racist. It is using a different standard for a Black person than you would use for a White person.

People nowadays have no problems with racism. So long as it favors the minority. It's still racism. People need to get over it and treat people the same regardless of their race.

Carter was a collossal fool, and I have written reams about what a shit-stain he was on the Presidency. Clinton was a lying sack of shit, and I have likewise written reams about what a turd burger he was. Refraining from criticizing Barack Obama because he is black would be giving in to the worst form of racism. "The Soft Bigotry of low expectations."

We have standards. He doesn't get a pass because he's black.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 05:50 AM (bb5+k)

366 8th grade, public school in MA, mid 1980's. Ms. McGourty, a toad like woman who happened to be my homeroom teacher, took a kind of poll regarding Ronald Reagan and nuclear disarmament. The gist of it was, "Do you think Reagan will start a nuclear war and what is the best way to stop him?". I spent that day haranguing my classmates into writing all sorts of pro-Reagan responses to her little query. The next day when we passed them in she was aghast. It quickly became clear that I had blown her little plan to discuss the evils of Reagan. Long story short, she was pissed and started calling me all sorts of names, I fired back and we argued for the whole period. She gave me an F-minus in Conduct on my next report card. My parents thought it was hilarious.

Posted by: lincolntf at March 01, 2013 05:51 AM (ZshNr)

367 So does DHS have Janis Kaprinski running detention facilities?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4519199.stm

I could see how it would be easy to confuse her with Janet.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 01, 2013 05:51 AM (U5rMc)

368 I have (to my knowledge) never eaten horse, but my dog says it's great. We should empty the open lands of wild horses (invasive species) and feed our K-9's well.

Posted by: maddogg at March 01, 2013 05:51 AM (OlN4e)

369 The paper of record in my fair city, The Seattle Times actually reported an unintended consequence of the Seattle ban on plastic grocery bags (they charge 5 cents for a paper bag). In addition to salmonella and other such food born bacterial diseases, banning plastic bags has resulted in a huge increase in shoplifting! Who'd a thunk that people can easily steal produce and such in their nice, big reusable shopping bags. There's also been an increase in cart and basket loss--people are stealing those too because if they don't have a reusable bag with them, they need something to carry their groceries home with them. Who would have thunk that banning plastic bags could result in huge money and property losses! Stupid Libtards!

Posted by: runningrn at March 01, 2013 05:51 AM (Ag5D2)

370 "Horses are prettier than cows."

Moo!

Posted by: Elsie at March 01, 2013 05:51 AM (HjPtV)

371 There are no legitimate criticisms of our stellar President, unless progressives make any. When will you reich wingers understand that, you clueless dolts?

Posted by: Mary'sisterfromMontpelier at March 01, 2013 05:52 AM (Uhg6n)

372 320 It does me no good to be in the ranks with damn fine soldiers who also happen to work for the enemy. Capiche?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 09:34 AM (bb5+k)

Nicely worded. I'm having a hard time understanding conservatives giving up our beliefs for votes. Seems to me that only leads to creating a one party system does it not? Or are we to "come out of the closet" so to speak after we get the votes we need to get a win?

Posted by: Talibill at March 01, 2013 05:52 AM (qk/nQ)

373 "CHICAGO Â•Taxes on cigarettes sold in Cook County are going up by one dollar a pack.

Posted by: ET at March 01, 2013 09:40 AM

Neighborhood gangs take over cigarette distribution business in Cook County adding cigarettes to their inventory of smuggled products, begin taking orders for future delivery of assault weapons, begin trading futures/options on firearms for delivery in Cook County. .

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 01, 2013 05:52 AM (v1dFx)

374 The polls are corrupt by Chicago thugs Eh...That is catchy as I read today that a poll taken in SAn Francisco said repeal of Gay Marriage Ban Law here in Mexifornia is favored 68%. Right ;;By the by Has boehner swallowed yet or are they using regulated condoms?

Posted by: Clemenza at March 01, 2013 05:52 AM (x59Gv)

375 http://tinyurl.com/cnorofu

AP-EU UE hits all time high...Italy blamed....

yeah about that "healthiest pony in the glue factory"....

"neigh"

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:52 AM (LRFds)

376 I do not know if I ever eat horse. I probably did, not knowingly. But I've eaten deer, rabbit, snake, and many other mammals. If cooked right, they all seem to taste fine.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 05:53 AM (9Bj8R)

377 @ 370 the Navy is here..

Posted by: Clemenza at March 01, 2013 05:53 AM (x59Gv)

378 I'm with Carolla on this: they can have gay marriage if they agree to STFU already.

Posted by: runninrebel at March 01, 2013 05:54 AM (sL+oi)

379

"CHICAGO Â•Taxes on cigarettes sold in Cook County are going up by one dollar a pack.

It's also a 'racist' tax increase, because it creates a black market for smokes in Chi-town.

Posted by: Roy at March 01, 2013 05:54 AM (VndSC)

380 376I do not know if I ever eat horse. I probably did, not knowingly. But I've eaten deer, rabbit, snake, and many other mammals. If cooked right, they all seem to taste fine.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 09:53 AM (9Bj8R)

Soft shell river turtle ain't bad either. Taste a lot like frog legs.

Posted by: maddogg at March 01, 2013 05:55 AM (OlN4e)

381 366 LincolnTF,

Heh nice...I got heat for being a hard little cold warrior a few times...

I got sent to the office for laughing during the class showing of the day after....

Teacher hopped on me asking how I could laugh at it and I was giggling it's too nice and started explaining the killzones and die off timelines....

Principal laughed told me to look cowed and let me read Newspapers for an hour.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:55 AM (LRFds)

382 Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 09:53 AM (9Bj8R)

I ate horse in France, and while it's not great, it was okay.

What's the big deal?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 05:56 AM (GsoHv)

383 The problem is, you have to know they're the enemy. Traitors have a habit of hiding their true intentions. However, once identified, you curbstomp their head. Q for the horde: If hanging someone is the preferred method of the death penalty, & a quick & painless death as possible is the desired outcome, why don't you drop them from 60 feet with a 50 foot rope? Seems like popping off their head like a zit would be pretty quick & painless.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 01, 2013 05:56 AM (GFM2b)

384 368 I have (to my knowledge) never eaten horse, but my dog says it's great. We should empty the open lands of wild horses (invasive species) and feed our K-9's well.

Posted by: maddogg at March 01, 2013 09:51 AM (OlN4e)

So you're saying that you were never one of the kids that ate paste or tried the glue too

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 05:56 AM (GULKT)

385 The gay marriage opponents are stupid. They ought to advocate allowing gay marriage and outlawing gay divorce. (That may violate the cruel and unusual punishment clause however.)

Posted by: Roy at March 01, 2013 05:56 AM (VndSC)

386 "CHICAGO Â•Taxes on cigarettes sold in Cook County are going up by one dollar a pack. Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle says the tax, which takes effect Friday, is expected to generate more than $25 million annually
for the Cook County Health and Hospitals System."

oh , I'm sure that will be the case ....

Posted by: ET at March 01, 2013 09:40 AM (YpjaN)

Because no one will go outside of Crook County to stock up on cigarettes.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2013 05:57 AM (1Jaio)

387 They'll never STFU. Look at the gays in the military thing, it took about half a second after the repeal of DDDT for Lefty darling Sandra Fluke to start bemoaning the lack of trannies in uniform. They're fighting a culture war whether our side participates or not.

Posted by: lincolntf at March 01, 2013 05:57 AM (ZshNr)

388 378 runninrebel,

They'd have had it 18 years ago if they'd have agreed to give up the church hunting license they're seeking....

I mean for the love of God yes, yes I guess yes just accept you are "equal" for God's sakes and not "special"....

thing is there are FAR bigger fish to fry RIGHT now...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:57 AM (LRFds)

389 "But I've eaten deer..."

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 09:53 AM (9Bj8R)

Bambi!

Murderer!

Posted by: PETA at March 01, 2013 05:57 AM (GsoHv)

390 So you're saying that you were never one of the kids that ate paste or tried the glue too

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 09:56 AM (GULKT)

Never had to. I had an ample supply of boogers.

Posted by: maddogg at March 01, 2013 05:57 AM (OlN4e)

391

Posted by: DKCZ at March 01, 2013 09:40 AM (9/bcB)

I regard that as cooking the books, but in the same manner as baseline budgeting.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 05:58 AM (bb5+k)

392 325 Biden Advises Shooting Shotgun Through Door; Virginia Beach Man Arrested For Doing Just That A guy in DE was just arrested for firing a shotgun in his backyard. I had to check to make sure it wasn't Biden. It wasn't. The dude is much better looking than Sheriff Joe.

Posted by: runningrn at March 01, 2013 05:58 AM (Ag5D2)

393 Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 09:45 AM (LRFds)
Yeah, the refusal to argue that the economy was stagnant (at best) was one of many perplexing failures of the Romney campaign.

Posted by: DKCZ at March 01, 2013 05:58 AM (9/bcB)

394 391 DiogenesLamp,

the economy has been being graded on a curve HARD since LBJ at least......

it's insane.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 05:59 AM (LRFds)

395 cook county will make up a ton of cash from the money spent from sports fans during the cubs world series win in october

Posted by: navycopjoe at March 01, 2013 05:59 AM (3r8Vz)

396 Posted by: rickb223 at March 01, 2013 09:56 AM (GFM2b)

I have a humane method you should consider!

Posted by: Doctor Joseph-Ignace Guillotin at March 01, 2013 05:59 AM (Cnqmv)

397 So you're saying that you were never one of the kids that ate paste or tried the glue too Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 09:56 AM (GULKT) Actually I don't think I did.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 06:00 AM (9Bj8R)

398 I once heard the guys who write Southpark say they didn't like conservatives, but they really, really hated liberals.

Posted by: maddogg at March 01, 2013 09:42 AM (OlN4e)

Libertarians are conservatives who haven't quite grown up yet.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:00 AM (bb5+k)

399 I never believed that crap for a second. The Chicago Nazi thugs are in charge of collecting that data. A person would have to be a fool to think that they wouldn't manipulate it the way they manipulate elections and attempt to manipulate everything else.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 09:28 AM (bb5+k)

Like excluding food and fuel costs from the consumer price index? Why don't our fearless repuke betters try picking some low hanging fruit like this for an easy fucking win? I swear that ever since that whining pile of shit, Boehner, has been put in charge of the House, the party of stoopid became mental flatliners.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2013 06:00 AM (AnRMP)

400 People nowadays have no problems with racism. So long as it favors the minority. It's still racism. People need to get over it and treat people the same regardless of their race. How is it racism for a white to criticize a half white presidentin'?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 01, 2013 06:00 AM (GFM2b)

401 Because no one will go outside of Crook County to stock up on cigarettes. Cigarette taxes have done more for the Native American population to lift them out of poverty than any gubamint funded program.

Posted by: runningrn at March 01, 2013 06:01 AM (Ag5D2)

402 When we first moved to Portland, in the 70s, there was a shop in town that sold horsemeat. Ground horse pretty much tastes like hamburger, except that it has a slightly sweeter taste. If you use it in spaghetti, no one will comment on it. Horse steak is a bit tough and we didn't care for it. I don't see any reason for horsemeat to be a big deal, as long as you know what you are eating.

Posted by: notsothoreau at March 01, 2013 06:01 AM (Lqy/e)

403 Less than 10 minutes until the SpaceX launch (fingers crossed)!

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 01, 2013 06:01 AM (vBSha)

404 If I'm not mistaken, CBD's 18 year old is a she.

Posted by: Tami at March 01, 2013 09:42 AM (X6akg)

Mea Culpa. In English, the general rule is to use the masculine gender if gender is unknown. The point is still the same.

(you) Drink heavily during.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:01 AM (bb5+k)

405 How is it racism for a white to criticize a half white presidentin'?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 01, 2013 10:00 AM (GFM2b)

Because SHUT UP, that's how.

/typical lib

Posted by: Insomniac at March 01, 2013 06:01 AM (DrWcr)

406 5 Fugly Napolitano now says she had nothing to do with the release of the illegals. Then I submit that she is either a liar or an incompetent boob.

This morning on my drive into work in Albuquerque the local news announce the pending release this weekend of illegal aliens due to sequester. So, I guess I'll go with liar.

Posted by: dblwmy at March 01, 2013 06:01 AM (+Q+Cv)

407 Another Soros buying up media outlets? This time gun magazines and outlets with the intention of shutting them down. http://is.gd/Rss8Bv Posted by: Vic A complaint I've had my entire life. Republicans have been bitching about the media at least since the days of FDR. (The meme of the GOP candidate being a dolt, while the Dem is a towering intellectual dates to Eisenhower v. Stevenson.) So, why haven't they bought media outlets? Aren't most of the super-rich supposed to be Republicans, at least historically? Why don't we own the New York Times? Why don't we own some Hollywood studios?

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at March 01, 2013 06:02 AM (MSrqi)

408 Nood Drew.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 01, 2013 06:02 AM (X6akg)

409 It's so true that this administration has mastered the art of the plausible denial. I hope we don't let up on the Bengahazi nightmare if for no other reason than to taint Hillary for 2016. She will not be any better than Obama.

Posted by: SpasticToad at March 01, 2013 06:03 AM (Zewfw)

410 >>> Nood Drew. nah

Posted by: soothsayer at March 01, 2013 06:04 AM (NNTrd)

411 what's so bad about horse meat?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 01, 2013 09:47 AM (gtTDa)

It's a bit like eating dog. Yes, it's another source of meat like any other, and there are cultures all over the world that have no problem eating it, but humans have a special affinity for dogs and cats and horses that they don't necessarily associate with livestock. Many Westerners see a dog or a cat or a horse and perceive it more as a pet than an animal. You can eat sheep, for example, but if you had a PET sheep and had to eat it, it would probably make you sick to your stomach to do it.

Or guinea pigs. Here in the States, guinea pigs are pets. In parts of South America, they're dinner. If you'd just eaten a good meal in a Peruvian cafe and asked the waitstaff what cuy was exactly, when they told you, "Guinea pig" and you weren't prepared for the answer you could easily lose everything you'd just scarfed down your hungry maw.

Then there's the issue of food contamination. There is a certain level of health inspection involved in processing beef or pork and other meats, and those animals are generally expected to be healthy before going to the slaughterhouse. But who's verifying the health and sanitation of horses and horsemeat preparation?

But for the most part it's an issue of cultural preference. I think most people wouldn't care if OTHERS ate horse, so long as they can be sure that the food they themselves are eating does NOT contain horse. When you have all this cross contamination going on, that's when people get squeamish. It'd be like finding out the McDonald's hamburger you had yesterday was 2/3 beef, 1/3 Secretariat.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:04 AM (4df7R)

412 How is it racism for a white to criticize a half white presidentin'?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 01, 2013 10:00 AM (GFM2b)

Ever heard of the one drop theory? It can be used either way!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 01, 2013 06:04 AM (Cnqmv)

413
What I would be for is doing away with the state-level institution of marriage altogether. Marriage should be a church ceremony and nothing more. I would be 100% for a benign "civil contract" that doesn't have the word "marriage" in it anywhere. And then anybody can go into a civil contract with anybody for any damn reason.

Posted by: Andrew at March 01, 2013 09:50 AM (HS3dy)

I think compromising with people that have serious mental illness is a dumb idea. Pretending that what they do is normal is detrimental for society. If your social customs are not going to be rooted in reality, when ARE you going to say "No" ?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:06 AM (bb5+k)

414 Thanks for all of the great advice about skydiving.

I realized that the odds were astronomical that I would get any useful advice, although I also knew that it would be amusing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2013 06:06 AM (GsoHv)

415 "Gay marriage = Gay adoption. Are you saying you're sweet on gay males adopting - and dressing young children in studded leatherneck collarsto bring them to Pride events?" Gay Marriage = Gay Everything. And this is what the "secular" conservatives like ace don't get. The gay lifestyle is at its core rooted very simply in selfishness, an extreme brand of selfishness. While some find their way to the conservative movement because they are selfishly attracted to things like lower taxes, these people are few and far between. The vast majority of conservatives are here for selfless reasons. People who are inherently selfish almost always find their way to the Democrat party. Just as with amnesty, supporting the gays is a loser. Long-term it will increase the liberal to conservative ratio.

Posted by: Andrew at March 01, 2013 06:08 AM (HS3dy)

416 Posted by: lincolntf at March 01, 2013 09:51 AM (ZshNr)

Good for you. I made it a point to confront any objectionable claims by my instructors as well. Oddly enough, most of them took it well. Apparently they figured out that I knew what I was talking about.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:08 AM (bb5+k)

417 It's so true that this administration has mastered the art of the plausible denial. I hope we don't let up on the Bengahazi nightmare if for no other reason than to taint Hillary for 2016. She will not be any better than Obama. Posted by: SpasticToad They haven't mastered anything. Their denials might be completely implausible, but no one in the MSM ever challenges them. One hates to constantly play the "If a Republican were President..." card, but we all know it's true. If Nixon had been a Democrat, no one would have given a shit about five guys breaking into a hotel room to bug a phone. And the bias has only risen 1000x today.

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at March 01, 2013 06:09 AM (MSrqi)

418

Horses are prettier than cows.

AGREED!

Posted by: Zombie Andrew Mendoza at March 01, 2013 06:10 AM (5iuEW)

419 418
Horses are prettier than cows.

AGREED!

Posted by: Zombie Andrew Mendoza at March 01, 2013 10:10 AM (5iuEW)

Definitely!

Posted by: Catherine the Great at March 01, 2013 06:11 AM (GULKT)

420 There's nothing wrong with horse meat, but you've got to label it as such. (And of course Westerners wouldn't buy it. Just a cultural thing.)

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at March 01, 2013 06:11 AM (MSrqi)

421 I'm having a hard time understanding conservatives giving up our beliefs for votes. Seems to me that only leads to creatinga one party system does it not? Or are we to "come out of the closet" so to speak after we get the votes we need to get a win?

Posted by: Talibill at March 01, 2013 09:52 AM (qk/nQ)

Agreed. I have long argued that our positions are not whimsical. They have real world consequences which are determined by natural law. The Majority of voters cannot remake natural law, and changing reality base positions to pander to voters is just idiocy.

If the majority of people have become so stupid, we should just let them suffer the consequences of their foolishness. Changing our positions just to win votes is not going to prevent a reckoning when the foolish policy choices manifest themselves.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:12 AM (bb5+k)

422 "I think compromising with people that have serious mental illness is a dumb idea. Pretending that what they do is normal is detrimental for society. If your social customs are not going to be rooted in reality, when ARE you going to say "No" ?" I totally agree with you. But I do also recognize that the moral winds are tilted against us. Because I'm not willing to compromise on marriage at all, I see removing marriage from the state as the only way to save it. But this path, as with other issues like a flat tax, is a pipe dream. The gays would not be interested in this path because their goal isn't to be married in the traditional sense, their goal is to be recognized.

Posted by: Andrew at March 01, 2013 06:13 AM (HS3dy)

423 I'm with Carolla on this: they can have gay marriage if they agree to STFU already.

Posted by: runninrebel at March 01, 2013 09:54 AM (sL+oi)

They can't have anything. You cede an inch, and they will keep demanding another. There is no end to the demands, therefore I would give them nothing.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:14 AM (bb5+k)

424 "Or are we to "come out of the closet" so to speak after we get the votes we need to get a win? " Bear in mind who wrote this post... if I'm not mistaken Gabriel Malor is an out and proud homosexual activist. Didn't he come out against ChicFilA during that debacle right on this very blog?

Posted by: Andrew at March 01, 2013 06:15 AM (HS3dy)

425 South Park - Dolphinoplasty: http://tinyurl.com/crcqkn3

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2013 06:16 AM (is6Me)

426 They'll never STFU. Look at the gays in the military thing, it took about half a second after the repeal of DDDT for Lefty darling Sandra Fluke to start bemoaning the lack of trannies in uniform. They're fighting a culture war whether our side participates or not.

Posted by: lincolntf at March 01, 2013 09:57 AM (ZshNr)

Agreed. The Neville Chamberlain tactic will achieve the Neville Chamberlain result. Why is this so difficult for folk to grasp?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:16 AM (bb5+k)

427 Top ten list of guaranteed loss arguments for GOP. numbers 1 through 10: Anything, whatsoever, to do with social issues. Gay marriage, immigration, ... Gabe comments "Illinois GOP party chairman Pat Brady came out in in favor of gay marriage. And now gay marriage opponents want to oust him. This is a guy that got the IL GOP out of debt. He's raised $8 million for the party in a blue state. He's cut IL GOP administrative costs by 70% while upgrading their data center. Oh, and he did it all as a volunteer." and his summary? "But, please, let's get rid of effective Republicans for holding the same position on marriage as the last Republican vice president; that's a smart move." I have to say I agree with Gabe on this. This is a losing proposition. If you are opposed to gay marriage then marry a straight person. This is a losing proposition, and only someone who actually wants to lose would be banging this particular drum. I am sorry, but this pretty much sums up most socons. This game is over, this ship has sailed. Pining for the fjords is not a winning strategy. Get over it, and move on.

Posted by: Joe in MI at March 01, 2013 06:16 AM (3R8wQ)

428 Woodward should be eaten.

Posted by: David Plouffe at March 01, 2013 06:18 AM (ypzqs)

429 @ 370 the Navy is here..

Posted by: Clemenza at March 01, 2013 09:53 AM (x59Gv)

Heh. Layers ...

Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2013 06:19 AM (HjPtV)

430 427 Joe in MI,

Joe did I miss Dick Cheney signing off EVERY speech on EVERYTHING with "let my daughter get married?"

There are MUCH MUCH bigger fish to fry.

While yes the IL GOP guy may have done a lot of good work he probably does not need to be engaging in ANY punditry or loud advocacy that harms that fragile caucus.

That was not an act of tactical, operational, or strategic genius that will put his name by Sun Tzu okay?

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 06:20 AM (LRFds)

431 Inappropriate provinces of government: passenger trains parcel and post delivery education marriage Appropriate: national defense adjudication of trespass & contractual dispute umm... Most "conservatives" are 65% or more liberalized. Like arguing for prayer in schools instead of getting govt out of the school business, they've already won. When you let govt define marriage one way, you give govt the power to define it the other way, when it has no business defining marriage. True equality-mindedness is required, no race or gender prefs or hatey crimes or any law or reg that treats individuals as a class or order. How far is the common voter from such libertarian principle?

Posted by: a mindful webworker at March 01, 2013 06:20 AM (KmZtw)

432

Opposition to Gay marriage is a horribly bigoted and wrong idea! Why only backwards socially conservative states like California would ever define marriage as being between one man and one woman.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 06:21 AM (GULKT)

433
So, why haven't they bought media outlets? Aren't most of the super-rich supposed to be Republicans, at least historically? Why don't we own the New York Times? Why don't we own some Hollywood studios?

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at March 01, 2013 10:02 AM (MSrqi)

I can only postulate a few theories. Most of the people who want to work in these environments are leftists, and I believe that it is the brain wiring that makes people aspire towards these vocations. Leftists are imaginative and good at fantasy beliefs, so they do well in fiction and play-acting.

Conservatives tend to be more "nuts and bolts" sort of people, and not so interested in intangibles. Conservatives in Media is not a natural fit. For Liberals it is. I think we can do it, but we have to work harder at it than would Liberals.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:22 AM (bb5+k)

434

Posted by: Joe in MI at March 01, 2013 10:16 AM (3R8wQ)

Yeah its a losing propostition since Gay Marriage was voted down 37 out of 39 times.

And Gabe's embrace of Brady's lowering of the GOPs debt in Illinois convinently leaves out how gay marriage will do nothing but increase the national debt or liabilities.

Posted by: polynikes at March 01, 2013 06:22 AM (m2CN7)

435 So, I'm a Republican voter. Besides the fact that my candidate of choice is going to screw me over once he gets a warm fuzzy from his first backslap, handshake and wink and join the rest of the crooks on the hill in the great game of wealth-redistribution bingo, I'm supposed to "get over it" when it comes to torching my values as well? Let it burn.

Posted by: Ed Snyder at March 01, 2013 06:22 AM (F3KAf)

436 I totally agree with you. But I do also recognize that the moral winds are tilted against us. Because I'm not willing to compromise on marriage at all, I see removing marriage from the state as the only way to save it. But this path, as with other issues like a flat tax, is a pipe dream. The gays would not be interested in this path because their goal isn't to be married in the traditional sense, their goal is to be recognized.

Posted by: Andrew at March 01, 2013 10:13 AM (HS3dy)

There is going to be a burning. You are just trying to delay it. I say the sooner we get it over with, the sooner we can rebuild.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:24 AM (bb5+k)

437 In the early days of the Republic, control of the media was as important as it is today. The Alien and Sedition Act was the stick, and government subsidies, via public notices contracts, were the carrots. Each party/political faction had its pet publishers.

Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2013 06:29 AM (HjPtV)

438
I have to say I agree with Gabe on this. This is a losing proposition. If you are opposed to gay marriage then marry a straight person.

Posted by: Joe in MI at March 01, 2013 10:16 AM (3R8wQ)

This argument is as fallacious as saying if you are opposed to cannibalism, don't eat anyone, or if you are opposed to murder, don't murder anyone.

"Gay Marriage" is a threat to society because it normalizes the abnormal.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:29 AM (bb5+k)

439 Any old-timers wish to correct me, but I recall a time many years ago when this site's commenters were not 75% so-cons, maybe the other way around. (Nothing wrong with that, but I am just noticing this vibe, maybe its just me.) Anyways, the obvious solution to "gay marriage" is to remove the government from the marrying business, and simply offer civil unions for all people who wish them. Your local church can perform marriages. Notice how this cedes power BACK to the churches and preserves the term marriage? This is the best hope I can see for so-cons to be able to cooperate with non so-cons in the party. Now, my guess is some so-cons will agree with this in theory, but many, many will not agree - preferring the state put the harsh on the gheys. Thus, losing libertarian leaners and non-so-cons of all stripes. Look, I am an atheist/agnostic and pro-choice-ish and ok withgay marriage. I am willing to vote for Mormon's or Baptists and pro-life candidates. I don't demand they be run out of town on the rails...but it sure seems so-cons want to do that to pro-gay marriage types in our party. No one is "alienating" you. I don't get "alienated" when I hear Ryan give his pro-life positions. Its not "alienating." Why don't you folks stop demanding the state act on your preferences and instead work the culture? I think that has worked in the pro-life field. But seriously, two dudes "marrying" probably hurts marriage as much as Newt Gingrich divorcing like crazy.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 06:33 AM (dZQh7)

440 "This argument is as fallacious as saying if you are opposed to cannibalism, don't eat anyone, or if you are opposed to murder, don't murder anyone." Someone is harmed in those cases. A better example "If you are opposed to chewing tobacco, 32 oz. drinks, or playstation 4, then don't buy those products."

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 06:35 AM (dZQh7)

441 BTW if the winds are shifting so much on this issue, why all the dissenters here? And why do otherwise good reliable blogs such as this one have to give time and space to someone whose only agenda is "all gay all day"?

Posted by: Ed Snyder at March 01, 2013 06:35 AM (F3KAf)

442 " I see removing marriage from the state as the only way to save it." LOL, has anyone tried this? No. States with libs want the state to be bigger and control marriage for their aims. States with so-cons want the state to be bigger and control marriage for their aims. Thus no one has tried this. So-cons would scream if their precious marriage wasn't done by the state. Its funny, for people who love their church, they seem to want state bureaucrats to give their church's activities the stamp of approval. Way back when gay marriage was a conservative position, we could have run with this and been the party of progress. Nope. And now, if we tried that, we would get the "if I can't play by my rules, I'm taking my ball home"

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 06:39 AM (dZQh7)

443

Well first off this site has never been in favor of gay marriage. It has always been overwhelmingly negative towards it.

And also you would not have to be worried about there not being many social conservatives opposing the return of marriage to the church. It would be the gay marriage advocates that would be overwhelmingly opposed to that. Not all those "nasty bigot" social conservatives you just despise.

And you don't feel alienated because the pro-life position is the position of the party and you know that going in. That you seem bewildered that people in the party that hold the positions of the party are unhappy with those that are attempting to change the positions does not speak highly of your intelligence.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 06:40 AM (GULKT)

444 "why all the dissenters here?" I don't know why you guys are here at all. This is a blog that jokes about Valu-rite and trannies. We are disrupting your values right there. You need to head on back to the church BBS and trade recipes for white bread pie.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 06:42 AM (dZQh7)

445

And Newt Gingrich isn't going to sue Catholic organizations that do not want any part of his next marriage. The same cannot be said for gay groups./

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 06:43 AM (GULKT)

446 Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 10:33 AM (dZQh7)

Another attempt to compromise with the Gay Nazis. I recall when we used to demand our representatives stand on principle even when we were going to lose a vote.

I would rather lose. The coward dies a thousand deaths, the brave? Only once.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:43 AM (bb5+k)

447 "And also you would not have to be worried about there not being many social conservatives opposing the return of marriage to the church. It would be the gay marriage advocates that would be overwhelmingly opposed to that. Not all those "nasty bigot" social conservatives you just despise. " So, why don't we see any so-cons activists and candidates running on a platform that allows civil unions for all people, and marriages in the church of your choice. I only see libertarians advocate this. Akin and Mourdouch didn't mention this plank, or maybe I could support them. p.s This blog is run by a guy who is not a so-con. Maybe you should reflect on that before claiming that this is a so-con website.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 06:46 AM (dZQh7)

448 Someone is harmed in those cases.

A better example "If you are opposed to chewing tobacco, 32 oz. drinks, or playstation 4, then don't buy those products."

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 10:35 AM (dZQh7)

Libertarians fail to realize that someone is harmed whenever their ideas are attempted. The cause and effect is just too far separated for them to realize the connection.

Gay Marriage is just a political tool to push normalization for Homosexual activity. If you will research it, you will discover it will not remain tamed inside of any boundaries. Check out Zombietime's experience with the homosexual movement in San Fransisco. If you think your compromise with these people will solve anything, you simply don't understand the nature of what you are dealing with.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:47 AM (bb5+k)

449 Yes, removing the power of the state back to the churches is "giving in" to the Gay Nazis. Fine. Do it your way. You are losing and will lose, and then the state will make your churches bow down. And I will laugh and laugh and laugh, and then cry, that because you were so short-sighted you gave your enemy the rope to hang you.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 06:49 AM (dZQh7)

450 Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 10:39 AM (dZQh7)

This nation is in the process of burning. This issue is but a symptom of it. It is going to burn regardless, and economics will be the primary ignition source.

The notion that social dynamics do not have an impact on economics is naive. Adam Smith and Edmund Burke were not only contemporaries and countrymen, they were also very good friends. Their theories dovetail with each other by design.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:50 AM (bb5+k)

451

I didn't claim this was a socon site you pathetic little fuckhead. I said that it has never been in favor of gay marriage. The commenters here have always been opposed to it. The fact that you are unaware of this speaks of your ignorance and idiocy.

And Akin and Murdoch were raked over the coals for abortion. Gay marriage was never brought up concerning them so why you mention them is retarded. Its also interesting that you demand they support your special little binky to get your support, but you are baffled by those who want the party to actually support the party positions.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 06:51 AM (GULKT)

452 "Libertarians fail to realize that someone is harmed whenever their ideas are attempted. The cause and effect is just too far separated for them to realize the connection." Same argument used to ban large drinks. Drinking cokes leads to societal obesity. Yawn. "Gay Marriage is just a political tool to push normalization for Homosexual activity. If you will research it, you will discover it will not remain tamed inside of any boundaries. Check out Zombietime's experience with the homosexual movement in San Fransisco. If you think your compromise with these people will solve anything, you simply don't understand the nature of what you are dealing with." I live in California. The crazy gay stuff is contained to SF. Fayetteville, AR is the gay capital of the south...do they have this stuff? No. By the way, SF has crazies of the non-gay kind too. It seems to attract them.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 06:51 AM (dZQh7)

453 Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 10:42 AM (dZQh7)

The operative word is "jokes". Jokes are not the same as actual policy positions.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:52 AM (bb5+k)

454 "I said that it has never been in favor of gay marriage. The commenters here have always been opposed to it. The fact that you are unaware of this speaks of your ignorance and idiocy. " Show me your stats to prove that. Oh, that's right, you don't have any stats. You just made that up.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 06:52 AM (dZQh7)

455
p.s This blog is run by a guy who is not a so-con. Maybe you should reflect on that before claiming that this is a so-con website.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 10:46 AM (dZQh7)

He's in New York City. Of course he's not a SoCon. However, the actual muscle in the party is.

Libertarians got 1-2% of the vote last election cycle. Not much of a coalition to work with.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 06:54 AM (bb5+k)

456 p.s This blog is run by a guy who is not a so-con. Maybe you should reflect on that before claiming that this is a so-con website.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 10:46 AM (dZQh7)

PS the Republican party believes that marriage is between a man and a woman. Maybe you should reflect on that before you start wondering why Republicans don't care for those who seek to redefine it.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 06:55 AM (GULKT)

457

"Fine. Do it your way. You are losing and will lose, and then the state will make your churches bow down. And I will laugh and laugh and laugh, and then cry, that because you were so short-sighted you gave your enemy the rope to hang you."

Really not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that the state will go after churches who don't conform and accept the gays? That is precisely what we absolutely aren't willing to accept. The day that comes is the day I start shooting people.

Posted by: Andrew at March 01, 2013 06:56 AM (HS3dy)

458 Show me your stats to prove that. Oh, that's right, you don't have any stats. You just made that up.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 10:52 AM (dZQh7)

Go find a single thread on this site that talks about gay marriage where the supporters outnumber those opposed.

Oh that's right you can't. Because you don't have a fucking clue. And a thread like that does not exist.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 06:57 AM (GULKT)

459 A big thanks to DiogenesLamp for giving a voice to common moral sense, and for sexypig for giving one to public restroom perverts and child molesters everywhere.

Posted by: Ed Snyder at March 01, 2013 06:58 AM (F3KAf)

460 OK, well, if this site is pure so-con 100% of the time, then its time for me to leave. I think Ace needs to post something about this so that us non-believers can understand this is a Christian only website. Maybe replace the pirate stuff with crosses and Jesus.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 06:59 AM (dZQh7)

461 Need a kleenex? For your tears, I mean.

Posted by: Ed Snyder at March 01, 2013 07:01 AM (F3KAf)

462 >>>>>460 OK, well, if this site is pure so-con 100% of the time, then its time for me to leave. I think Ace needs to post something about this so that us non-believers can understand this is a Christian only website. Maybe replace the pirate stuff with crosses and Jesus. Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 10:59 AM (dZQh7) Were you born this fucking retarded or dd you have to work at it

Posted by: Buzzion at March 01, 2013 07:02 AM (LEXwV)

463 Why would I want to weep when I read Heinze's article? That's a hell of a stronger and more attractive field than the Democrats can gin up. It's also missing a few possible candidates, like Perry and Cruz and of course X the unknown. But who's the Democrat frontrunner? The brain and Benghazi-damaged grandma with her Mrs Magoo glasses? The lunatic-is-in-my-brain grandpa VP? The give-me-your-guns-or-else Mafia don in the New York statehouse? Or the Cherokee commissar of stock market crashes? You think the Obama machine will cart the inmates of halfway houses and mental institutions to polling stations to elect any of them? You think any of them will get 98% of the black and 70% of the Hispanic vote? I don't. What's to weep about? What candidate is more ideologically pure AND stands any chance of actually winning?

Posted by: Kegger at March 01, 2013 07:05 AM (k6JIo)

464 No, his idea of work is to throw a hysterical, effeminate, hissy fit at anyone who disagrees with him. Yet another reason why homosexuals will have no cred with me ever.

Posted by: Ed Snyder at March 01, 2013 07:05 AM (F3KAf)

465
Fine. Do it your way. You are losing and will lose, and then the state will make your churches bow down. And I will laugh and laugh and laugh, and then cry, that because you were so short-sighted you gave your enemy the rope to hang you.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 10:49 AM (dZQh7)

I know that is your perception of what is happening, but what I see is the disintegration of the entire system with various social issues being merely symptoms of the larger problem.

The public mindset has been manipulated over decades by the power of Leftists in the media. You naively think that getting rid of some policy position objectionable to the Liberals is going to win.

They will simply pick another, and make that the new intolerable condition.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 07:10 AM (bb5+k)

466 "I live in California. The crazy gay stuff is contained to SF. Fayetteville, AR is the gay capital of the south...do they have this stuff? No. "

The South won't put up with that shit.

By the way, SF has crazies of the non-gay kind too. It seems to attract them.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 10:51 AM (dZQh7)

You may not realize it, but it all goes together. There is a bigger picture that many people just can't see. It helps to study history.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 07:12 AM (bb5+k)

467 >>>You may not realize it, but it all goes together. There is a bigger picture that many people just can't see. It helps to study history.

Your study of history has availed you little given that you seemed to have learned either nothing or (alternately) the wrong set of lessons from it.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 01, 2013 07:19 AM (bcLhD)

468 460 SexyPig,

I notice you have not taken the middle way of getting widened support for it by demanding protections for Churches and believers from LawFare....

why?

I support putting the issue to bed, but I want the majority opinion of the coalition at least shown respect.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:22 AM (LRFds)

469 OK, well, if this site is pure so-con 100% of the time, then its time for me to leave. I think Ace needs to post something about this so that us non-believers can understand this is a Christian only website. Maybe replace the pirate stuff with crosses and Jesus.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 10:59 AM (dZQh7)

And now who is talking about taking their football and going home?

It is not a Religious issue for me. There are very good secular reasons for not normalizing what is, in reality, a perverted behavior. There are also good tactical reasons for not doing so. Homosexual behavior is in fact a threat to society. Did you miss the entire AIDS epidemic from the 1980s?

Are you aware that the Homosexual community constitutes the largest repository of dangerous sexually transmitted diseases? They still aren't permitted to donate blood for this very reason. I could go on and on, but I think you aren't really interested in discussing the base line facts of this issue because you consider this issue an impediment to winning politically.

Not much point in discussing the reality with someone who feels this way.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 07:24 AM (bb5+k)

470 465 DiogenesLamp,

Yup...witness Safndy Fluck and TGs...

the military is an organization that has to have razor sharp focus on mission oriented solutions and encourages sublimation of individual identity to the whole to promote unit cohesiveness.....so now that it has to weather integrating homosexuals and Bisexuals into a dynamic social environment under great pressure at times....it is the perfect time to try to force the introduction of people so individualistic they make a spectacle of themselves.

The funny thing is this forces me away from my moderation on the topic with concern to civilians.

The comic sop my son perused has a TG clerk that is sometimes a bit outspoken but I was friendly to and maintained my patronage of the shop I am so bogoted...

of course my son asked some questions and got answers....the pretty snowflake being pretty in that environ is a social pressure but not beyond trying to bear....

my son dreams of being a Coastie Crash Diver or a door gunner in the US Army....

pretty snowflakes without their gameface on there can get him killed if he gets his dream...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:28 AM (LRFds)

471
Your study of history has availed you little given that you seemed to have learned either nothing or (alternately) the wrong set of lessons from it.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 01, 2013 11:19 AM (bcLhD)

And what lesson do you think I should have learned from history? That a temporary modern fad will defeat several thousand years of human history?

That's not a bet I would take.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 01, 2013 07:28 AM (bb5+k)

472 Pat Brady as IL GOP Chairman, got his butt kicked state wide in the 2012 elections. Who cares if he raised $$$$. GOP and Brady got thier but kicked in a bad economy also

Before the November vote the IL Senate was 35-24 Dem. After 40-19 Dem and a super majority.

Dems led the State House 64-54, now 71-47 Dem Super M.

GOP lost 5 US House Seats to go with that.

How the Hell did Pat Brady do a great Job, Gabriel ?????

Posted by: Jackj at March 01, 2013 07:39 AM (4WesI)

473 How the Hell did Pat Brady do a great Job, Gabriel ?????

Posted by: Jackj at March 01, 2013 11:39 AM (4WesI)

Because he supports gay marriage. Duh. That trumps actual results every day.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2013 07:40 AM (GULKT)

474 472 jackJ,

if nothing else he had the chance to have had organized the state GOP to be ready to capitalize on the likely implosion of IL finances...

"luckily" he took the chance to throw a grenade in his nice newly organized tent...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:53 AM (LRFds)

475 Fine. Do it your way. You are losing and will lose, and then the state will make your churches bow down. And I will laugh and laugh and laugh, and then cry, that because you were so short-sighted you gave your enemy the rope to hang you.

Posted by: sexypig at March 01, 2013 10:49 AM (dZQh7)

Or if you were smart, you would recognize that the whole point of gay marriage as the Obama Party is running it now is to make churches bow down, and oppose it accordingly.

Pat Brady is an imbecile. His own state of Illinois contains the best example so far of the point of gay marriage, aka idiot Alderman Joe Moreno banning Chik-Fil-A from operating because of their CEO's views on gay marriage, and he comes out in support of it? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at March 01, 2013 08:27 AM (lUkFQ)

476 The whole of Gay Marriage has nothing to do with freedom and equality, it is all about destroying the Church.

Plain and simple

Posted by: Jackj at March 01, 2013 08:38 AM (4WesI)

477

What's really troubling - though academic, at this point, given the general collapse in standards, self-respect, and common sense in civic affairs - is that smart folks like Gabe who are non-idiotic on most issues indulge in the same sort of ridiculous non-reasoning approach on their pet issue that actually is at the root of our general troubles.

Marriage is the oldest existing human institution, that probably predates the "state" itself. If a culture wants to define marriage a certain way - and all of them have always done it essentially the same way (BTW, plural marriage cultures have a very boring and practical basis - back before the comparative plenty of modern economies, that is - for that variation: widows and their children would starve without a husband) - then that's what marriage is.

Equality under the law is entirely separate - and if you don't get that, then you're probably someone who doesn't guffaw and laugh at the idea of "hate crimes" or affirmative action, or any of the other absurd and indefensible atrocities that are direct and complete contradictions of the whole logic and spirit of our legal system. With civil unions or whatever they're called, what remains to satisfy the equal justice under law requirement?

There should be no "marriage penalty", or the reverse, or anything else, in the tax system. So there should be no need to play games with what marriage is to satisfy unexamined emotionally-charged shallow concepts of equity - just fix the tax code. The culture's definition of marriage has nothing to do with it.

The "gay marriage" absurdity nicely encapsulates the collapsed standards of our time. A "feel good" issue for many, a strictly self-serving narcissistic drama for most directly affected, all depending on a lack of logic or seriousness in applying legal philosophies, doused with a huge amount of arrogance and sometimes thuggishness. A culture defines things like marriage. The catastrophe of the judiciary's outrageous usurpation of power and authority in American society is no where more evident than in this cultural question that is being pushed on an uninterested and unwilling country by lawfare and the same pop culture/"education"/Leviathan mentality that is cretinizing and impoverishing us in every other arena.

Posted by: non-purist at March 01, 2013 08:46 AM (afQnV)

478 I ain't votin' for any pro-same-sex "marriage" people. Or any pro-abortion people. Or donating to them, or talking them up, or hanging out with them, or doing anything else for them.

Just not gonna do it. If that means sitting out 2016, then I'll sit out 2016.

Posted by: J. Moses Browning at March 01, 2013 12:44 PM (Y3JgK)

479 Even assuming the key players run and the fringe riff raff elements don't run there still are the harsh demographic realities of the putative "base." Then there are the related problems of the early contests and their particularly-detached demographics: Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bork bork Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at March 01, 2013 07:49 AM (r2PLg)

Eat me.

Posted by: Shit at March 02, 2013 09:43 AM (ZZg4j)

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