March 15, 2013
— Gabriel Malor Happy Friday!
Ohio Sen. Portman announced last night that he has had a change of heart on the issue of gay marriage, owing to his son's coming out. Portman explained, "I had a very personal experience, which is that my son came to Jane, my wife, and I and said he was gay and that it was not a choice, and that's just part of who he is and he'd been that way for as long as he could remember." Portman is the first GOP senator to support gay marriage while still in office.
In a sort of related note, the CEI-sponsored "Rainbow on the Right" panel at CPAC was standing room only last night. Jonah Goldberg -- "marriage is a conservatising institution" -- was probably my favorite speaker, with Margaret Hoover's economics-based argument for marriage equality a close second. Jimmy LaSalvia, Jen Rubin, and Liz Mair also did great jobs. The decision to invite Donal Trump to speak at CPAC seems to have impelled many to reevaluate their stance on GOProud and gay inclusion.
I will be at CPAC again today, though probably with even fewer updates than yesterday. Did you know that there are people making speeches here? A lot of speeches.
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Subtle attack on both Rand Paul, conservatives, and the Republican Party. Remember in the last several elections Fox has loved them some squishy moderate neocons.
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Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 02:52 AM (53z96)
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Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 02:57 AM (53z96)
CPAC needs to do a better job of getting their video online...their web presence stinks.
Posted by: DeusExMachina at March 15, 2013 02:57 AM (6RTwM)
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And thatÂ’s it for FRIDAY. Folks I ripped through these in a big hurry because I slept late this morning.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 02:58 AM (53z96)
Gabe the article I read the other day said their exclusion wasn't so much because they were gay as it was because they were jerks at the convention all the time.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 02:59 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 15, 2013 03:02 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Typical Lefty [/i] at March 15, 2013 03:02 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: sTevo at March 15, 2013 03:03 AM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 15, 2013 03:03 AM (RmSDf)
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There is a wifey joke in here somewhere.
Posted by: sTevo at March 15, 2013 03:04 AM (VMcEw)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 15, 2013 03:05 AM (xjpRj)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 15, 2013 03:06 AM (XkWWK)
Thanks
There is a wifey joke in here somewhere.
Posted by: sTevo at March 15, 2013 07:04 AM (VMcEw)
Let's see, rush job on wifey? But she doesn't have a Maverick
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 03:08 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 15, 2013 03:08 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 06:52 AM (53z96)
ITA about squishy FNC and that's why I'm excited about the Washington Times getting their own 24/7 cable news channel this summer! FNC not only needs competition, but conservatives need more choices.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl, still <3s Perry at March 15, 2013 03:08 AM (KL49F)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 03:10 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl, still <3s Perry at March 15, 2013 03:10 AM (KL49F)
Posted by: pep at March 15, 2013 03:11 AM (YXmuI)
Nary a word about gay marriage in their dispute though, so I guess it does not warrant mention here.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2013 03:11 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl, still <3s Perry at March 15, 2013 07:08 AM (KL49F)
I don't know if I would count on WaTi being any better than Fox. Maybe if it was WaEx there would be a chance but even that one is chancy.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 03:12 AM (53z96)
Opposing may be a bit strong, but these differences will need to be reconciled. The RINO name calling certainly won't help with that.
Posted by: pep at March 15, 2013 03:13 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: pep at March 15, 2013 07:11 AM (YXmuI)
We already have that with the DOMA.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 03:13 AM (53z96)
Posted by: mugiwara at March 15, 2013 03:14 AM (hpYnL)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 15, 2013 03:14 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 15, 2013 03:15 AM (XkWWK)
That's the only solution that makes any sense, really. When you get right down to it, marriage is a religious institution. Based on the First Amendment, the state has no business being involved in it at all.
Let everybody have civil unions, gay and straight, then anyone and everyone is free to go to whatever religious institution they choose to get married.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2013 03:16 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 15, 2013 03:18 AM (yLuBK)
Myself, I would like a news channel run by the Duck Dynasty family.
Uncle Si should definitely run the political desk.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 15, 2013 03:19 AM (0IhFx)
Agree. And since this is the likely outcome, I hope the party will get behind it and say here is our solution to the problem. We are not good at advertising our successes, but that is what we need to do constantly. The socons still might really take offense and walk, but I hope not. I'm not slamming them and I want them in the party, just noting a reality.
Posted by: pep at March 15, 2013 03:20 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 15, 2013 03:20 AM (yLuBK)
Amazing
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 03:22 AM (53z96)
Good morning, all. Thanks for the morning briefing, Gabe and Vic. And Vic, no need to apologize; thanks for everything you do.
His name is mostly forgotten now, but in the silent and early talkie days, George Arliss was a very popular star, loved for his portrayals of historical characters (Disraeli being his specialty).
In his 1931 film, The Millionaire, James Cagney has a small role as a brash life insurance salesman. Producer Daryl Zanuck had signed him for the role after seeing the swaggering, confident Cagney on Broadway, but when he watched the rushes, he was shocked; Cagney was uncomfortable in his role and seemed intimidated by the camera. Then, suddenly, assuming a scene was over, the actor curled his lip in disgust and snapped, “For God’s sake, who wrote this crappy dialogue, anyway?”
That was when Zanuck realized CagneyÂ’s forte would be as a tough, young punk. As soon as shooting on The Millionaire wrapped, Zanuck rewarded Cagney with his first big film, The Public Enemy, and the actor was on his way to screen immortality.
Enemy as well as other classics like The Roaring Twenties, Angels With Dirty Faces and, of course, White Heat solidified Cagney’s on-screen image, so much so that a crewman at Warners once told him, “Off-screen, you’re very quiet and unassuming, but when you get on there, you’re a pretty boisterous fella.”
“Yes, I guess that’s true,” Cagney admitted.
“So,” the crewman went on, “when are you acting – on-screen, or off?”
And thatÂ’s it for me. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend.
Oh – and since we spent time yesterday on Vic’s car thread talking about favorite rides – here’s one of mine: http://tinyurl.com/ccjs9nw
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 15, 2013 03:22 AM (zF6Iw)
Let everybody have civil unions, gay and straight, then anyone and everyone is free to go to whatever religious institution they choose to get married.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2013 07:16 AM (BeSEI)
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That's always made sense to me, and I really don't see where you need to change any laws to do it. Right now two people can go to any attorney (or probably even a paralegal) and draw up a partnership agreement that makes any kind of arrangement they would want, so why do we need to change the laws or write new ones?
Posted by: Nighthawk at March 15, 2013 03:23 AM (RSqz2)
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at March 15, 2013 03:24 AM (X+nFp)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 15, 2013 03:25 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: blaster at March 15, 2013 03:26 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Citation X driver at March 15, 2013 03:26 AM (2z0mM)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 03:27 AM (l86i3)
There are other things that are not just at the behest of the two participants, and that usually involve government, for example pensions and medical care. That's a big thing, because it conveys an official imprimatur to the union and commitment of resources, which is where lots of people draw a line.
Posted by: pep at March 15, 2013 03:27 AM (YXmuI)
That was CBD's car thread, I only provided the pic. We'll have to see what he has today.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 03:28 AM (53z96)
Posted by: waelse1 at March 15, 2013 03:28 AM (N6Gq/)
It's all about forcing the Catholic Church to perform marriages, and since bad faith from this government has already been shown with the ruling regarding Catholics (and other religious people) and Obamacare, I am not inclined to be receptive to the idea.
So, I have no further comment.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 15, 2013 03:29 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: sTevo at March 15, 2013 03:29 AM (YSd1Q)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2013 03:29 AM (Ae28/)
I hadn't heard that he endorsed bailing out student loans. Source? If so, then between that and immigration, a lot of folks better get used to disappointment.
Posted by: pep at March 15, 2013 03:30 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at March 15, 2013 03:30 AM (zZJJp)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 15, 2013 03:30 AM (XkWWK)
For the record, I agree with you that they will try to do that. I wish grievance groups would quit overplaying their hands. We're all worse off for it.
Posted by: pep at March 15, 2013 03:31 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: zeera at March 15, 2013 03:32 AM (Lv9bM)
Posted by: sTevo at March 15, 2013 03:32 AM (vroT8)
Posted by: General Woundwort at March 15, 2013 03:32 AM (RrD4h)
So, I have no further comment.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 15, 2013 07:29 AM (GoIUi)
Mega-dittoes, Miss Marple.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 15, 2013 03:32 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: blaster at March 15, 2013 03:32 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 15, 2013 03:33 AM (JDIKC)
ITA about squishy FNC and that's why I'm excited about the Washington Times getting their own 24/7 cable news channel this summer! FNC not only needs competition, but conservatives need more choices.
I agree with you about this. The left has, what 69,105 stations devoted to spouting its message? And now we have half a one with (theoretically) one more on the way? Yes, yes, I realize the left would consider the playing field balanced as is, but still.
Seriously, I don't work for Glenn Beck, but has everyone here at least tried to get The Blaze on their cable system? Even if you don't love/like Beck and what he does, it's another serious attempt at getting a conservative/libertarian-leaning network (one with an already decent web presence) some wider exposure. If you go to gettheblaze.com, it explains what you need to do. I subscribe, and some of the content is pretty good--far from perfect, but even the less-than-great stuff is better than what you get from most of the "major" networks these days.
Posted by: WesternActor at March 15, 2013 03:33 AM (+d4HW)
It's all about forcing the Catholic Church to perform marriages, and since bad faith from this government has already been shown with the ruling regarding Catholics (and other religious people) and Obamacare, I am not inclined to be receptive to the idea.So, I have no further comment.
Its not just the Catholic Church. Any Christian Church that won't marry homosexuals is under threat by this. Its a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: puddleglum at March 15, 2013 03:36 AM (72OBp)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2013 07:29 AM (Ae28/)
Why did Breitbart resign from the board then?
Posted by: mugiwara at March 15, 2013 03:36 AM (hpYnL)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 03:38 AM (53z96)
The problem with civil unions is government wealth redistribution benefits, among other things. There is a whole body of regulations concerning SS benefits, insurance, child support etc. Since I don't care what you do in your (supposedly) private life as long as you don't expect me to applaud you for being a really special snowflake, I think civil unions are a reasonable way to go and I view myself as a social conservative. It would take some time to sort out the legal aspects related to benefits and civil unions, so the lawyers should be good to go for years, but it beats redefining marriage and forcing churches to sanction anything but whatever definition of marraige they choose.
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 15, 2013 03:39 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Jackj at March 15, 2013 03:39 AM (t58Eh)
Posted by: waelse1 at March 15, 2013 03:39 AM (N6Gq/)
That's why it would be nice to see a Republican stance that avoids all the screaming and gnashing of teeth. Show the extremists on the other side for who they are, but as long as the LIVs can associate the Westboro Baptist Church with the whole of the R party, regardless of the absurdity of that, WE have a problem.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2013 03:39 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 15, 2013 03:40 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Jackj at March 15, 2013 03:40 AM (t58Eh)
ITA, Miss Marple.The push for marriage equality seems more about creating a tool that can be used to punish and harass any individual, business, or institution (churches, boy scouts) that doesn't fall in line with the GLBT agenda. Also, it will not end with SSM. Years ago Cass Sunstein wrote about how it would pave the way for other types of unions, such as polygamy. And then what, child brides and cousin marriages? To think the Lefty social engineers will be satisfied with just SSM is foolish.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 15, 2013 03:41 AM (0/zfR)
Now looks like I will have to rush an application through. No offices anywhere close to me either. I have to go somewhere where there is sunshine first to get to a road that will eventually get me there.
And meanwhile things will get a little tough.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 03:41 AM (53z96)
Posted by: mugiwara at March 15, 2013 07:36 AM (hpYnL)
Tammy Bruce has told them to fuck off too.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 15, 2013 03:42 AM (T1rOa)
Posted by: Jackj at March 15, 2013 03:42 AM (t58Eh)
Posted by: Bennetton at March 15, 2013 03:43 AM (2Oas0)
http://tinyurl.com/bfkfrey
I have requested information on the reporter, who repeatedly asks if the election of Pope Francis qualifies as a "free and fair" election and wants to know how the government reconciles this since the Pope is a head of state. He also starts in about theocracies.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 15, 2013 03:43 AM (GoIUi)
So, I have no further comment.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 15, 2013 07:29 AM (GoIUi)
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Sadly, I have to agree with you since this is the only explanation that makes even a slight amount of sense to me.
Posted by: Nighthawk at March 15, 2013 03:43 AM (RSqz2)
"90. Disagree. If the public saw the GOP as cavemen, then why do we control the US House with a big margin?"
_________
Probably because the MSM can't caricature that many candidates. They use their resources to maling the numerically fewer Presidential and Senatorial candidates.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at March 15, 2013 03:44 AM (Nfpnr)
Posted by: Jackj at March 15, 2013 03:45 AM (t58Eh)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2013 03:46 AM (Ae28/)
Posted by: Jackj at March 15, 2013 03:46 AM (t58Eh)
The subtext of gay marriage is the approval and acceptance (at the point of a gun if necessary) of any and all GLBTQWERTY behaviors and forcing traditional churches to perform and sanction what could (and should) be a civil union between consenting adults. If civil unions/contracts were generally recognized outside the church, this should provide a reasonable defense against this, but I expect the lawfare to continue since there is "social justice" involved.
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 15, 2013 03:46 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Bigby's Force Choke at March 15, 2013 03:47 AM (GHhDX)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 15, 2013 03:47 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Jackj at March 15, 2013 03:47 AM (t58Eh)
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 15, 2013 03:47 AM (T1rOa)
What I believe we would see, is that a lot of gay people, the real ones, not the rabid activists, don't really see much of an advantage to getting tagged with their partners' government funded benefits. Some very small few, but certainly not all.
What would more likely happen is gay people will go to their own churches, get married, and leave the state out of it. Or ask the state for protection, in allowing for hospital visits, child adoption, etc, and not being so concerned about the financial benefits.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2013 03:47 AM (BeSEI)
Portman also told CNN that he sought guidance from former Vice President Dick Cheney, whose daughter Mary is openly gay. Portman said Cheney's advice to him was simple: "Follow your heart."
Because being a Republican politician nowadays is just like being a Disney Princess.
Come to think of it......
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 15, 2013 03:47 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: otho at March 15, 2013 03:47 AM (yBF/9)
Posted by: Bruce at March 15, 2013 03:48 AM (0tWC8)
Now there is a surefire damn winner. Bush returns?
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 03:48 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 15, 2013 03:48 AM (feFL6)
Jeez, sorry about that, Vic.
In happier news, the Boston Phoenix has gone out of business. The only reason I read it was because they carried the Straight Dope column, but other than that, they were a standard lefty rag. The AM afternoon host was expressing sympathy for all the writers out of a job, even if they were moonbats, but my give-a-shit meter is pegged at zero. Enjoy your Cocoa Messiah's funemployment, you hacks.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 15, 2013 03:49 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: clemenza at March 15, 2013 03:50 AM (HMQ8k)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 15, 2013 07:47 AM (GoIUi)
I saw that yesterday and I am seriously considering it. How long did it take for you to start getting the checks (I assume you applied on line)?
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 03:50 AM (53z96)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2013 03:50 AM (g7q64)
I've always wondered WHY homosexuals want to ape religion(marriage ceremonies)which pretty much view their relationships as sin. Civil unions would seem preferable, I'd think.
I guess it is the ultimate domination game? We will not bend the knee to your gay Ba'al, however. Not all of us, anyway.
Posted by: Lizabth at March 15, 2013 03:52 AM (JZBti)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 15, 2013 03:53 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: otho at March 15, 2013 07:47 AM (yBF/9)
One of my favorite movies. If any of you morons like Cagney or Bogie, you have to see it; you spend the whole movie cheering for Bogey to get a hot lead injection.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 15, 2013 03:53 AM (zF6Iw)
There are churches which now will perform same sex marriages. And yes, most couples would go to those.
But this is not about those people. It is about providing an excuse for activists to undermine the other churches (and most particularly the Catholic Church) by forcing a confrontation.
Cardinal George of Chicago said he expects to die in his bed, his successor to die in prison, and that man's successor to die a martyr.
SO that is where I think we are heading.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 15, 2013 03:54 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Talibill at March 15, 2013 03:54 AM (WEWGu)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 03:55 AM (53z96)
Posted by: A. at March 15, 2013 03:55 AM (giqVA)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 15, 2013 03:56 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 15, 2013 07:53 AM
Hahaha.. ain't that the truth. Bogart does weasel extremely well. My fave Bogie roles are all scumbag parts. Like in "Oaklahoma Kid" as Rip McCord *guffaw*. Have you noticed how "Hang 'em High" lifts the back end of "Oaklahoma Kid"?
Posted by: otho at March 15, 2013 03:57 AM (yBF/9)
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 15, 2013 03:57 AM (eytER)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 03:57 AM (53z96)
I was sort of amazed that I didn't have to show up with a birth certificate at an office , but I didn't.
I also had the complications of having maiden name and married name income, and it caused no problems.
I actually think more people file on line, now. The bonus is you don't have to talk to any government employees.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 15, 2013 03:58 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: otho at March 15, 2013 03:59 AM (yBF/9)
Awww... that mean ol' Ted Cwuz hurt widdle DiFi's pwecious feeeewlings:
http://tinyurl.com/bynhhmc
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 15, 2013 04:00 AM (zF6Iw)
To me this is like finding out your son is a philanderer (or other similar non life threatening violation of law or morals) and now you say that cheating on your wife should be okey dokey.
Is that about what passes for convictions these days?
It seems inevitable that the gays will get their wish and that society will be the poorer. Not so much because gays can now marry but that society has been told that it can't set the laws it wants or regulate contracts between adults the way it wishes and that it will have to accept other even more extreme and repugnant couplings because the laws have been found to be unfair and unconstitutional.
I also want to hear from you all who favor this change when it turns out that gays will now demand (under the cloak of equal rights) that the Catholic Church (or any church for that matter) HAS to perform a marriage ceremony for them or face massive penalties.
Gays have already done this will secular activities. How can anyone not expect this to be the next step.
Gay marriage has NEVER been about LOVE it's been about hate and spite against the Church and it's refusal to acquiesce in the stampede to approve of that which it has fundamental reasons to not do so.
Bon Appetit to you all. What's coming up will be hard to swallow for most but we'll be stuck with it then. No take backs.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 15, 2013 04:01 AM (qyv02)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 04:02 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 15, 2013 04:02 AM (0/zfR)
That wasn't related to "jerk" behavior at CPAC (which takes place in February or March). That was because one of the GOProud founders outed Perry's pollster in the fall of 2011. It wasn't CPAC-related at all.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2013 07:46 AM
So it wasn't about jerk behavior at CPAC, but just jerk behavior in general?
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 15, 2013 04:03 AM (eytER)
Professionally, I've had to deal with many government entities, national, state, and local over the years. Social Security is one of the most efficient, with a very effective presence online.
Even in person, their buildings and offices are clean, modern, with helpful employees. It's almost scary.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2013 04:04 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2013 07:11 AM (BeSEI)
I guess we have to wait for the link dump to get non-homo news.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 15, 2013 04:04 AM (T1rOa)
Thanks, if I had known this was coming I would have applied back in Dec or Jan but they have surprised the crap out of me with only a 2 week margin.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 04:04 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 15, 2013 04:06 AM (feFL6)
http://tinyurl.com/auqjho9
Enjoy...
Posted by: CPT. Charles at March 15, 2013 04:07 AM (1GunI)
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 15, 2013 08:04 AM (T1rOa)
Good Lord Mr. Hate I had a ton on non-homo links???
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 04:07 AM (53z96)
>>>I also want to hear from you all who favor this change when it turns out that gays will now demand (under the cloak of equal rights) that the Catholic Church (or any church for that matter) HAS to perform a marriage ceremony for them or face massive penalties.
I seem to recall that not long ago the official GLBT line was something like they wanted rights but not marriage. See Slope, Slippery.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 15, 2013 04:07 AM (WVMUQ)
Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2013 04:08 AM (sdi6R)
"Sorry. my son, we don't do that here."
"My lawyers will be in touch!"
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 15, 2013 04:08 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 08:07 AM
And they are awesome. Honestly, it's getting to where I skip over Gabe's post just to read your links. Thanks for doing yeoman's work every morning for the rest of the morons.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 15, 2013 04:08 AM (eytER)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 15, 2013 04:08 AM (Sptt8)
Thanks, I went to the SS site yesterday afternoon which was shy I was absent most of the afternoon.
I will start the application this morning as soon as the link dump is up.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 04:09 AM (53z96)
If your government chooses to shred the First Amendment, it should be cause for rebellion. If you want your Church to take a stand however, you should be asking it to no longer perform the state function of marriage.
Sacrament does not equal state recognition. Start with your Church. Less bloodshed that way. Hopefully.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2013 04:09 AM (BeSEI)
Yes you did Vic, but it seems like the Cob-loggers have turned into trolls as we have started getting a steady diet of the Ghey the last few days.
It's even creeping into the Overnight thread.
Posted by: General Woundwort at March 15, 2013 04:10 AM (RrD4h)
>>>>Good Lord Mr. Hate I had a ton on non-homo links???
TECHNICAL FOUL
This is the THC thread so you're supposed to write "oodles" not "ton"
Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at March 15, 2013 04:11 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Fabulous Ohio at March 15, 2013 04:12 AM (wIgpo)
That's your Gabe. Always parsing words. Never admitting to anything that doesn't support his client's alleged innocence. Logic and reason ain't got nothing to do with it.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2013 04:12 AM (BeSEI)
They really don't get a "pass". They must show that their own programs meet the same requirements as the government mandated program.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 04:13 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 15, 2013 04:14 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2013 04:14 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at March 15, 2013 04:15 AM (CrJzY)
Sounds good to me.
Seriously, Tammy Bruce told them get lost? She must be a homophobe.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 15, 2013 04:15 AM (WVMUQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2013 04:16 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: clemenza at March 15, 2013 04:16 AM (HMQ8k)
Posted by: tumbleweed on point at March 15, 2013 04:16 AM (CZCbG)
It's possible Cheney told Portman "follow MY heart." Which was presumably flushed down the terlet, or tossed in the incinerator when Cheney got his cyborg heart.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2013 04:16 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at March 15, 2013 08:11 AM (3ZtZW)
Which thread requires the use of "metric fuck ton" as the unit of measure?
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 15, 2013 04:16 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 15, 2013 04:17 AM (0/zfR)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 04:18 AM (9Bj8R)
Given the commonality of blip-mittments amongst the gay community in general I'd be more inclined to support the inclusion of recognition under existing common-law marriage statutes than to anything else. Its about LOVE? Fine, stay together for X years and there you go, gratis. And hey, no mucking about with definitions and churches, how about that?
But no.
Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at March 15, 2013 04:19 AM (3ZtZW)
Gee, that almost sounds like they're giving us a clue!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 15, 2013 04:20 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 08:18 AM (9Bj8R)
You're are totally missing the point. Not too many people here, if any, really give a shit what they are doing in the bedroom. What most of us care about is a new preferential treatment class and forcing an agenda on institutions that find that agenda repugnant or against their religion.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 04:20 AM (53z96)
As I said earlier, they ALREADY have that with DOMA which they are trying to get the Supreme Court to kill!
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 04:21 AM (53z96)
If your child has to "come out" to you as gay
Posted by: Empire of Jeff
Thing of it is, Portman's son "came out" when he was a freshman at Yale, and at Yale Freshman Gay is like a 3 unit course.
The new orthodoxy turns possible youthful experimentation into some dramatic lifestyle decision.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 15, 2013 04:21 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 15, 2013 04:22 AM (lhyW6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 04:23 AM (9Bj8R)
This is the real point. We do not need yet another ill-defined group with special rights that supersede the inalienable rights of the rest of us. It has almost nothing to do with what people do in their bedrooms.
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 15, 2013 04:23 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 15, 2013 08:17 AM (0/zfR)
Scarborough went off the rails today about Cruz. Out of the billions of people on this planet, based on their resumes, Ted Cruz would be in the top 10 individuals qualified to comment on the constitutionality of a law.
Posted by: jwest at March 15, 2013 04:24 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 04:24 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 15, 2013 04:25 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 04:25 AM (9Bj8R)
yerp- Cause it's an orientation and you are born with it so to try it once is to have found your true self.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 15, 2013 04:26 AM (WVMUQ)
If you haven't noticed yet EVERY argument we make is a "losing argument" with the MFM. What you have there is just another "not the hill to die" on statement.
I refuse to modify my arguments and political beliefs to try to mollify the MFM. Because THAT is the real losing strategy.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 04:26 AM (53z96)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2013 08:14 AM (g7q64)
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That, and with funerals you are reasonably certain that in ten years time the person will still be dead.
Posted by: Nighthawk at March 15, 2013 04:27 AM (RSqz2)
Posted by: tumbleweed on point at March 15, 2013 04:27 AM (CZCbG)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 15, 2013 04:27 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at March 15, 2013 04:28 AM (CrJzY)
Thats an interesting turn of phrase, Nevergiveup. "Bloomberg in the kitchen".
Which rooms are still government-free? I know the first one invaded was the attic, since they grabbed all the crazy aunts out and put 'em in asylums back in the day. Then: Plumbing and electricity. Even my garden shed is subject to government rules.
Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at March 15, 2013 04:28 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Darles Chickens at March 15, 2013 04:28 AM (z4vvZ)
This a thousand times.
And I don't know about anyone else, but I'm really fucking sick and tired of talking about this every fucking day. I started out sorta of sympathetic to gays wanting to join the privileged class (it's not about equality, unmarried gays will continue to be an underclass just like unmarried straights), but after years and years of tantrums and name-calling and calls for violence, I don't give a shit.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 15, 2013 04:28 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 15, 2013 04:29 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Rin Tin-tin at March 15, 2013 04:29 AM (JQuNB)
Posted by: Jess1 at March 15, 2013 04:29 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 04:29 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 15, 2013 04:29 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 15, 2013 04:29 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 15, 2013 08:17 AM (0/zfR)
If Scarborough's congressional aide had been armed when she was in his office, she might still be alive.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 15, 2013 04:30 AM (T1rOa)
Not even the womb. Once it ages out of abortion, it becomes subject to the same federal regulations as the rest of the body.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 15, 2013 04:30 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: zsasz at March 15, 2013 04:30 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 15, 2013 04:30 AM (feFL6)
But only if they can show their own organization provides the equivalent program.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 04:30 AM (53z96)
http://www.nbc.com/the-new-normal/
I understand the idea that i am expected to accept the belief that a homosexual relationship between two consenting adults is the same as a heterosexual relationship between two consenting adults.
But that isn't really what this whole issue is about...is it.
Sort of like Gun Control really isn't about guns.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 15, 2013 04:31 AM (iZP3p)
There's not even a "right" to a marriage between a man and a woman.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 15, 2013 04:31 AM (hO8IJ)
Socon/ficon love in,eh?
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 15, 2013 04:31 AM (VQ9KL)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2013 04:31 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: tumbleweed on point at March 15, 2013 04:32 AM (CZCbG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 08:25 AM (9Bj8R)
Agreed, but this is an area of "discussion" that needs to nailed down because the MFM will ensure that it gets asked of every R candidate down to and including dog-catcher. There are no perfect answers because this is reality, but there is always a solution (even though you may not like the solution. If we don't die on the hills, then we should be prepared to die in the valleys!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 15, 2013 04:32 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 15, 2013 07:30 AM (XkWWK)
If you think West is a conservative perhaps you should get your head examined.
Posted by: Attila at March 15, 2013 04:33 AM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2013 04:33 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2013 04:33 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 04:33 AM (9Bj8R)
Because I'm a giver...
http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 15, 2013 04:34 AM (iZP3p)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 08:33 AM (9Bj8R)
We haven't tried anything but "not this hill" yet. When I say "we" I actually mean the GOP leadership.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 04:34 AM (53z96)
>>>"That, and with funerals you are reasonably certain that in ten years time the person will still be dead."
And after that Lazarus thing, the priesthood turned against that Christ dude in a big way. Plus, He refused to be a doctor and that really pissed off a lotta people, let me tell you.
Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at March 15, 2013 04:36 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 15, 2013 04:36 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 04:36 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2013 04:36 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 15, 2013 04:36 AM (feFL6)
You said a mouthful, as it were. How long can one tantrum go on?
I don't hate "gays." I don't fear "gays." They just bore the shit out of me, SWIDT. In the late 60's, yeah, I thought there was something to their fun-fun scene. They've had 45 years to impress me, and it ain't happening. It's old and weak. Find a new shocker, Angry Youth. This one is worn right down to the nubbin.
Posted by: comatus at March 15, 2013 04:36 AM (qaVK+)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 15, 2013 04:37 AM (FsUAO)
http://tinyurl.com/c7mny5y
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 15, 2013 08:35 AM (da5Wo)
Yeah surprised that didn't get any mention compared to ROB PORTMAN!!!!!
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 15, 2013 04:38 AM (T1rOa)
Out of the billions of people on this planet, based on their resumes, Ted Cruz would be in the top 10 individuals qualified to comment on the constitutionality of a law.
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But not the top nine.
Posted by: SCOTUS at March 15, 2013 04:38 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 15, 2013 04:38 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: zsasz at March 15, 2013 04:39 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 15, 2013 04:40 AM (0/zfR)
Posted by: Andrew at March 15, 2013 04:40 AM (KVvyw)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 08:36 AM (9Bj8R)
Then we need to change the GOP leadership.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 04:40 AM (53z96)
You sure you are in the right place?
Posted by: dogfish at March 15, 2013 04:40 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 04:41 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 15, 2013 04:41 AM (0/zfR)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 15, 2013 08:40 AM (0/zfR)
I'd put my fucking 5 yr old ahead of those two. Honestly, has a serious, well reasoned opinion come out of either of them since they've been on the court?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 15, 2013 04:41 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 04:41 AM (9Bj8R)
Morning all!
This might have been linked already at the HQ (even in this thread), but it really can't be discussed enough:
Sequester Do-Over: Fed Recapture 4 Illegals Released Under Budget Cuts
Washington Times: http://tinyurl.com/cfdztmq
...U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director John Morton testified to Congress that his agency released 10 “level one” offenders, and has gone out and apprehended four of them. He said the other six are nonviolent.
Oh, I see. So even though you released ten "level one" offenders, you captured four of them, so that means you should get brownie points. What, the other six? Oh, they're not that important. Yes, true, they're also level one offenders, but so what? They're NONVIOLENT.
Just FYI, a level one offender in the world of immigration is as follows:
Level I offenders: aliens convicted of"aggravated felonies," as defined in § IOI{a){43) ofthe Immigration and Nationality Act,3 or two or more crimes each punishable by more than one year. commonly referred to as "felonies" (http://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/releases/2010/civil-enforcement-priorities.pdf)
But it's okay, because the six other level one offenders don't pose any kind of real threat. Or something.
...Mr. Morton also acknowledged that overall, 2,228 immigrants were released — far more than the several hundred the agency had initially acknowledged. Of those, 629 had criminal records, though Mr. Morton said they were low-level offenders...
Oh, okay again. So besides misrepresenting the number of illegals -- not immigrants, btw; ILLEGALS -- who were released back onto American streets by a factor of ten, you also released more than six hundred with criminal records.
"Oh, it's okay. They're low-level offenders."
That's great. I'll remember that the next time one rams the back of my car and doesn't have insurance to cover the repairs. I'll be sure to send my higher premium bills to you, Mr. Morton.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 15, 2013 04:42 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: tumbleweed on point at March 15, 2013 04:43 AM (CZCbG)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 15, 2013 04:43 AM (SO2Q8)
You dirty Nativist. That's all a lie. Our brown brothers and sisters are good hard working people.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 15, 2013 04:43 AM (da5Wo)
"So what percentage of the population is gay? It must be approaching 60 or 70 percent by now, based on all of the HGTV shows."
Been in DC for the past week and I swear everybody here is gay.
Posted by: Andrew at March 15, 2013 04:43 AM (KVvyw)
“Yes, I guess that’s true,” Cagney admitted.
“So,” the crewman went on, “when are you acting – on-screen, or off?”
And thatÂ’s it for me. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 15, 2013 07:22 AM (zF6Iw)
It reminds me of a story Pat O'Brien told that he and Cagney were going into a bar (right after Angels with Dirty Faces came out) and the bouncer stopped them and the asked Cagney, well did you or didn't you? Cagney, Did I or didn't I what? Bouncer, Turn Yellow
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 15, 2013 04:43 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 04:44 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 15, 2013 04:44 AM (T1rOa)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 15, 2013 08:43 AM (da5Wo)
I know, I know. I'm a horrible racist. Oh, woe!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 15, 2013 04:45 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 04:45 AM (l86i3)
Honestly, has a serious, well reasoned opinion come out of either of them since they've been on the court?
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"I think this robe makes me look fat" - S. Sotomayor
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 15, 2013 04:46 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 15, 2013 08:43 AM (SO2Q
If there are no "absolute" rights, then the next time some regressive c*nt starts spouting off about the "right" to a good education, or the "right" to a good job, am I allowed to punch them in the mouth so hard they swallow their teeth?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 15, 2013 04:46 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 15, 2013 04:46 AM (Y1MQM)
Oh HELL no!
Posted by: The Chicken at March 15, 2013 04:47 AM (OevbG)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 15, 2013 08:45 AM (4df7R)
What you need is a good South American spouse like our friend Hector. I mean, sure, they'll pull a train with the neighbors at the drop of a hat, but what's that compared to showing how progressive and non-Nativist you are?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 15, 2013 04:47 AM (da5Wo)
NFL ( Nanny Football League )
Posted by: ET at March 15, 2013 04:47 AM (YpjaN)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 08:45 AM (l86i3)
As I always say, if I'm not called a racist in one way or another at least once a day, it means I'm doing something wrong.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 15, 2013 04:47 AM (4df7R)
I am surrounded by liberals who are educated far beyond their intellectual ability.
So, I have really tried to distill the essence of liberal goals into simple, short statements.
In the Peoples Republic of Baltimore, an explanation that takes two inhalations to verbalize is just too long and complex.
Sort of like giving a Baltimoron two shiny quarters will entertain them for hours.
If you give them a roll of quarters, they lose interest.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 15, 2013 04:47 AM (iZP3p)
You know how you should never ever Google something you don't know at the HQ? Yeah, that.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 15, 2013 04:49 AM (OevbG)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2013 04:49 AM (g7q64)
http://is.gd/gJvazr
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 06:56 AM (53z96)
That's because she's wearing his old false teeth
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 15, 2013 04:49 AM (1Jaio)
If you give them a roll of quarters, they
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 15, 2013 08:47 AM (iZP3p)
FIFA
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 15, 2013 04:49 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 15, 2013 08:47 AM (da5Wo)
Hmm... You have a point.
The question is, which country would be the best for finding myself a hubby? Maybe a gaucho. Then he could spend most of his time out taming horses or something, and be out of my hair.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 15, 2013 04:50 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Derak at March 15, 2013 04:50 AM (lkjWK)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 04:51 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 15, 2013 04:51 AM (0/zfR)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 15, 2013 04:51 AM (6j3CG)
So what percentage of the population is gay?
Posted by: Velvet Ambition
Everyone except me and thee.
And I have my doubts about thee....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 15, 2013 04:52 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 04:52 AM (l86i3)
SS is going broke as it is. Throw in a few million gays wanting spousal benefits and it crashes even sooner.
Posted by: Al at March 15, 2013 04:52 AM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 04:53 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 04:53 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 15, 2013 08:50 AM (4df7R)
Well, I'm a fan of the Brazilians....but that's a different topic.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 15, 2013 04:53 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 15, 2013 04:54 AM (Y1MQM)
As those words escaped Durbin's mouth, he should have been arrested by the sergeant-at-arms and held for a treason trial. We had enough witnesses, at last.
Posted by: comatus at March 15, 2013 04:54 AM (qaVK+)
There is no violence in Baltimore.
Unless it's roving bands of racist middle age white men roaming the streets at night in their pickup trucks looking for urban yutes.
On the other hand, even after years of lead remediation programs being in place,the leading cause of death for young urban males is lead poisoning.
Strange that.......
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 15, 2013 04:54 AM (iZP3p)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 15, 2013 04:54 AM (GFM2b)
I'm working on my food stamp collection.
Daily Caller:
During the Senate budget committee’s Thursday markup of the Senate budget resolution, Democrats prevented an effort to block funds for the Agriculture Department’s “partnership” with the Mexican government, which is aimed at promoting nutrition assistance programs among Mexican Americans, Mexican nationals and migrant communities in America.
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 15, 2013 04:54 AM (wbmaj)
Whoever is running in a primary against Mr. Portman has got my vote.
Hell, I'll probably vote for a Democrat. Why bother electing people who parrot conservative ideas then become liberals in office when you can just elect the liberals?
Posted by: egd at March 15, 2013 04:55 AM (XVGEg)
That about sums up my support for gay marriage.
Posted by: Fritz at March 15, 2013 04:55 AM (WM+rJ)
Posted by: Derak at March 15, 2013 08:50 AM (lkjWK)
Maybe Rob Portman should weigh in on that and let us know what his heart thinks about it. Maybe hold a presser about it so Malor can cover it.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 15, 2013 04:55 AM (T1rOa)
I remember that Easter one. Priests doing a procession with the Cross and Host getting pelted with blood and screamed at.
Hey, extra credit: If Catholics allow SSM do you think those marriages would become political platforms for flinging blood around becoz abortion and wymyn and teh screaming?
Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at March 15, 2013 04:55 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 04:56 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: SurferDoc at March 15, 2013 04:56 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at March 15, 2013 04:57 AM (JQuNB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 15, 2013 08:53 AM (da5Wo)
Were I a male or a lesbian, I'd want a Brazilian chick, too.
The guys, though, strike me as high maintenance. Boooooring!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 15, 2013 04:57 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 15, 2013 04:57 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 04:58 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 04:59 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 08:56 AM (l86i3)
The NFL has already gone downhill under that twat Goodell. I don't expect things to work out well for it in the future.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 15, 2013 05:00 AM (T1rOa)
Posted by: SurferDoc at March 15, 2013 05:00 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 15, 2013 05:00 AM (4df7R)
Male or lesbian, the answer to that question from my personal experience is a resounding "yes!".
Posted by: EC at March 15, 2013 05:01 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2013 05:01 AM (g7q64)
The guys, though, strike me as high maintenance. Boooooring!
By all accounts, the Brazilian chick Tom Brady is married to is both ultra high maintenance and aggressively Marxist. So there's that.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 15, 2013 05:01 AM (OevbG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 05:01 AM (9Bj8R)
This applies to the entire AFC East.
Posted by: Fritz at March 15, 2013 05:02 AM (WM+rJ)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 15, 2013 05:02 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Harold at March 15, 2013 05:02 AM (JKNLp)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2013 05:03 AM (ZshNr)
245Faggotry gets old.
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But not pedastry!
Posted by: Harry Reid at March 15, 2013 08:47 AM (SO2Q
Is there anything as sad as an old queer?
Posted by: jwest at March 15, 2013 05:03 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 15, 2013 05:03 AM (GFM2b)
266Senile old scrunt Pelosi attempts to channel G. Washington.
http://is.gd/gJvazr
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 06:56 AM (53z96)
That's because she's wearing his old false teeth
But she's wearing them in her cooter.
Posted by: Cicero Kid is NOT a termite at March 15, 2013 05:03 AM (UrENZ)
"Manufactured outrage and victimhood is their life."
Well, when one has nothing else to live for...
Posted by: Jess1 at March 15, 2013 05:04 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 15, 2013 05:04 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 05:05 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 05:05 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: SurferDoc at March 15, 2013 05:06 AM (6H6FZ)
My first Skydiving instructor told his mom when he was 22, she looked at him and said "Well, Duh."
My folks didn't know before I told them. I was 25.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2013 05:06 AM (jZUEZ)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 15, 2013 08:46 AM (SO2Q
No. It's your body that does that.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 15, 2013 05:07 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 05:07 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 15, 2013 05:07 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2013 05:07 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 15, 2013 05:08 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 15, 2013 05:08 AM (JQuNB)
Posted by: Manolo at March 15, 2013 05:09 AM (PttbO)
Giselle? Well, she's a freakin' supermodel with entitlement expectations shooting our her perfectly sculpted ass. Her husband can't throw and catch the ball at the same time ya know!
Posted by: EC at March 15, 2013 05:09 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 05:09 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 15, 2013 05:10 AM (QupBk)
http://is.gd/gJvazr
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 06:56 AM (53z96)
That's because she's wearing his old false teeth
But she's wearing them in her cooter.
Posted by: Cicero Kid is NOT a termite at March 15, 2013 09:03 AM (UrENZ)
Too far. Way, way too far.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 15, 2013 05:10 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 15, 2013 05:10 AM (wbmaj)
Just wanted to say that "End of Page" app for the iPad/iPod/iPhone is fuckin' awesome! I was using it last night on the ONT and it rocked.
Posted by: EC at March 15, 2013 05:10 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: jwest at March 15, 2013 09:03 AM (u2a4R)
On the old Joe Franklin show I saw a faded TV action star interviewed while wearing (flouncing?) a caftan and a head wrap. One of the saddest things I ever saw. I won't even write the poor bastard's name.
Posted by: SurferDoc at March 15, 2013 05:10 AM (6H6FZ)
>>>>i'm sad that portman felt he had to change his stance because of his son....
At the end of every Right in the BOR it says "unless its for the children". Its an emanation of a penumbra.
Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at March 15, 2013 05:11 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Jesse Jackson at March 15, 2013 05:11 AM (JQuNB)
In the year 2013, the Lord came unto Noah, Who was now living in America and said:
"Once again, the earth has become wicked and over-populated, and I see the end of all flesh before me."
"Build another Ark and save 2 of every living thing along with a few good humans."
He gave Noah the blueprints, saying:
"You have 6 months to build theArk before I will start the unending rain for 40 days and 40 nights."
Six months later, the Lord looked down and saw Noah weeping in his yard - but no Ark."Noah!," He roared, "I'm about to start the rain! Where is the Ark?"
"Forgive me, Lord," begged Noah, "but things have changed."
"I needed a Building Permit."
"I've been arguing with the Boat Inspector about the need for a sprinkler system."
"My homeowners association claim that I've violated the
Neighborhood by-laws by building the Ark in my back yard and exceeding the height limitations. We had to go to the local Planning Committee for a decision."
"Then the City Council and the Electricity Company demanded a shed load of money for the future costs of moving power lines and other overhead obstructions, to clear the passage for the Ark's move to the sea. I told them that the sea would be coming to us, but they would hear none of it."
"Getting the wood was another problem. There's a ban on cutting local trees in order to save the Greater Spotted Barn Owl."
"I tried to convince the environmentalists that I needed the wood to save the owls - but no go!"
"When I started gathering the animals, PETA took me to court. They insisted that I was confining wild animals against their will. They argued the accommodations were too restrictive and
it was cruel and inhumane to put so many animals in a confined space."
"Then the Environmental Protection Agency ruled that I couldn't build the Ark until they'd conducted an environmental impact study on Your proposed flood."
"I'm still trying to resolve a complaint with the Human Rights Commission on how many minorities I'm supposed to hire for my building crew."
"The Immigration Dept. Is checking the visa status of most of the people who want to work."
"The labor unions say I can't use my sons. They insist I have to hire only union workers with ark-building experience."
"To make matters worse, the IRS seized all my assets, claiming I'm trying to leave the country illegally with endangered species."
"So, forgive me, Lord, but it would take at least 10 years for me to finish this ark."
Suddenly the skies cleared, the sun began to shine and a rainbow stretched across the sky.
Noah looked up in wonder and asked, "You mean you're not going to destroy the world?"
"No," said the Lord. " The Government beat me to it."
By: Rick Wainright
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 15, 2013 05:11 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 15, 2013 05:11 AM (4OvDk)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2013 09:03 AM (ZshNr)
Now, now. Gay conservatives are small government types. They only support a government large enough to force everyone else to celebrate their "lifestyle", and no larger.
Posted by: somebody else, not me at March 15, 2013 05:11 AM (nZvGM)
Let everybody have civil unions, gay and straight, then anyone and everyone is free to go to whatever religious institution they choose to get married. This is where I'm at. It's the only thing that makes any sense at this point.
Posted by: Gem at March 15, 2013 05:12 AM (zw+pb)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 15, 2013 05:12 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: waldo truth at March 15, 2013 05:12 AM (3VhRQ)
Posted by: Jon in TX at March 15, 2013 05:13 AM (PKRPm)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2013 09:07 AM (GVxQo)
I'm pissed off that Portman felt the need to issue a "look at me" statement about it. Does it come when any legislation is pending where it might somewhat pertinent to say this? No. He might have said something in support of Ted Cruz because that's a timely matter but this is something from out of the fucking blue that's all about ROB PORTMAN and nobody else. Fuck him.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 15, 2013 05:13 AM (T1rOa)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 15, 2013 05:13 AM (wbmaj)
http://nambla.org/whatis.html
Is this like a bridge too far for the community, or kindred spirits?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 15, 2013 05:15 AM (iZP3p)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 15, 2013 05:15 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Jess1 at March 15, 2013 05:16 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: Vizzini [/i] at March 15, 2013 05:16 AM (O7Q1u)
Best "squishy" tunes:
Lola (the Kinks), Walk on the Wild Side (Lou Reed), All the Yound Dudes (Mott the Hoople)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 15, 2013 05:16 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 15, 2013 05:16 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 15, 2013 05:16 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 15, 2013 05:17 AM (OevbG)
"Gay posts around here are about as "safe and rare" as abortions."
Yeah. Reading AoS now reminds me of the Jim McGreevy bits in that JibJab video a few years back...
Posted by: Jess1 at March 15, 2013 05:19 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 15, 2013 05:19 AM (0/zfR)
Patterico's got something about Menendez and the WaPoo.
>>Tonight, I am feeling rather prescient. Tonight, the question arises: are we possibly looking at one of the most embarrassing moments in journalism in years?
I'm learning to trust him when he says "trust me".
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 15, 2013 05:19 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2013 05:20 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 15, 2013 05:20 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 15, 2013 05:20 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 15, 2013 05:21 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2013 05:21 AM (ZshNr)
I just keep looking for a sign from the gay community that there is some sort of moral line in the sand that shall not be crossed.
Sort of like "We consider the following behavior to be abnormal and abhorrent"
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 15, 2013 05:22 AM (iZP3p)
"Patterico's got something about Menendez and the WaPoo."
You're assuming the WaPo cares. They floated their story, on to the next one (which yesterday was "Global Warming is why the Snowqestor was a washout")...
Posted by: Jess1 at March 15, 2013 05:22 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 15, 2013 05:23 AM (JQuNB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 15, 2013 05:23 AM (4OvDk)
If gay people want to fall in love and get married and commit for life - I don't really care. Live your life. Be happy. (As I christian, I don't think God is OK with it - but he's not OK with a lot of things we're doing down here - living together without marriage, divorce for non-adultry reasons, remarriage afer divorce, etc)
However, the REAL problem I think is the casual way everyone approaches relationships - in and out - easy peasy. This is what is really damaging our society. Divorce is not everyone's fault - marriage takes two, but divorce really only takes one, doesn't it? Still, our casual approach to relationships is really bad for society and for freedom, ultimately.
Posted by: Lily at March 15, 2013 05:23 AM (igSv+)
Posted by: Cicero Kid is NOT a termite at March 15, 2013 05:24 AM (UrENZ)
Will Saving Private Ryan need an update?
Posted by: Fritz at March 15, 2013 05:24 AM (WM+rJ)
"Sort of like "We consider the following behavior to be abnormal and abhorrent""
You're kidding, right?
The activist, like the do gooder of CS Lewis' comment, is never satisfied.
Posted by: Jess1 at March 15, 2013 05:24 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: Jon in TX at March 15, 2013 09:13 AM (PKRPm)
H8R!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 15, 2013 05:24 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 15, 2013 05:25 AM (GFM2b)
***
That didn't work out so well for abortion, did it? Legal -->forcing taxpayers and churches to pay for it in 40 years.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 15, 2013 05:25 AM (0/zfR)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 15, 2013 09:23 AM (4OvDk)
Exactly; Portman is admitting "I just vote for stuff based on however the wind is blowing at the moment and don't really have any core values". Which is good to know for the future.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 15, 2013 05:25 AM (T1rOa)
All of us down at the Brattleboro WomanÂ’s Reproductive and Pregnancy Decision Center think that Governor Patty Murphy from Washington DC is pprobably one of the smartest leeders in the Senate. If Presdent Obama says she is smart, than she is smart unlike Bush who was a iddyot. We hope that Patty Murphy runs for presdent some day so that we don't end up with some one stooped that a Bush or Raygan again. However we are dissapointed with Presde Obama's pick for Pope. We were all hoping for a person of colar whom was also a person of alternative lifestyle from Afrrica. We are stuck with another man of non color from Europe again. Well that is all for today and I am going to enjoy this grate Southern Vermont day celebrating Presdent Obama through the blue and orangee colors with this mornings sun ripe. Yeah for Presdent and Miciahlle Obama as our leeders.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at March 15, 2013 05:25 AM (3lMGK)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at March 15, 2013 09:11 AM (nZvGM)
Now this I don't agree with.
Conservatives who identify themselves as gay tend, for the most part, to be conservative in most things. Are they pro- gay marriage? Many of them are, yes, but not all. To be a conservative is generally to be anti-big government, and the "federal" gay marriage issue is the ultimate in big government. Gay conservatives would choose more often to pursue their goals of gay marriage at the state level, as would be more appropriate.
I would far rather have a gay conservative on my side than a gay regressive. The former will generally identify as conservative first, gay second. They're as American as anyone else. The latter will always, ALWAYS be gay first and foremost, and will demand your unyielding acceptance and endorsement thereafter, and fuck what it means for the country. They're a cancer.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 15, 2013 05:25 AM (4df7R)
I guess we can run the entire party out now.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 15, 2013 09:16 AM (FsUAO)
Wait...they whole party's gay?
Posted by: Insomniac at March 15, 2013 05:25 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at March 15, 2013 05:26 AM (53riN)
350What if Portman's son instead told his father that he really enjoyed beating the living hell out of gays. Would daddy have made a statement that he now supports beating up gays because his son does it?
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What this means is that Portman was never against same-sex marriage. It was just a convienient position to take to fit in with the party. The instant that position became personally inconvienient, he dropped it like a dead hooker.
Posted by: Harry Reid at March 15, 2013 05:26 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: tgibeach at March 15, 2013 05:27 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 15, 2013 09:25 AM (4df7R)
This. Identity politics uber alles is a hallmark of "progressives," not conservatives.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 15, 2013 05:27 AM (DrWcr)
Pat Caddelll at CPAC:
Caddell called Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) "the Ambrose Burnside of American politics." Burnside was the commander of the Union's Army of the Potomac during the Civil War. He was dismissed by Lincoln for his inability to press his advantage against the enemy, his plodding and unimaginative strategies, and his inability to focus resources on the tactics needed for victory.
Then who is our Joseph Hooker? John Boehner?
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 15, 2013 05:27 AM (wbmaj)
362 "I don't know about the gay community, but hard leftists (especially in
Europe) have recently been pushing for pedophilia to be "normalized"."
Oh, no, THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN, silly.
Posted by: Lily at March 15, 2013 05:27 AM (igSv+)
Posted by: zsasz at March 15, 2013 05:28 AM (MMC8r)
381
"I'll be anxiously awaiting the first homosexual marriage in an American Mosque"
Goat-man baby!
Posted by: Bucket not needed to consumate the marriage at March 15, 2013 05:28 AM (UrENZ)
"Then who is our Joseph Hooker? John Boehner?"
Hookers & Boehners? Now this is the AoS I remember!
Posted by: Jess1 at March 15, 2013 05:28 AM (lbiWb)
Best "squishy" tunes:
Posted by: Fourth Virginia a
Well, thanks for triggering the memory of the song "Glad to be Gay" by Tom Robinson exists.
Today's earworm.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 15, 2013 05:28 AM (kdS6q)
I bet they're just sitting tight until it becomes the norm and then they'll start suing for the right to polygamous marriages, using SSM as the precedent.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 15, 2013 05:29 AM (0/zfR)
Posted by: Whatev at March 15, 2013 05:30 AM (A7Wh1)
Posted by: Jess1 at March 15, 2013 05:30 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 15, 2013 05:30 AM (4OvDk)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 15, 2013 05:30 AM (wbmaj)
Why do I wonder if something is wrong?
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 05:30 AM (53z96)
I just keep looking for a sign from the gay community that there is some sort of moral line in the sand that shall not be crossed.
Sort of like "We consider the following behavior to be abnormal and abhorrent"
----
well, that weewee in the cooter thing is pretty gross
Posted by: the community at March 15, 2013 05:31 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 15, 2013 05:31 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 15, 2013 09:29 AM (0/zfR)
That WILL NEVER HAPPEN, you silly person! The muz would never use sharia and islam to pursue a First Amendment advantage!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 15, 2013 05:31 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 15, 2013 05:31 AM (GFM2b)
Must have corduroys!
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 05:31 AM (53z96)
>>You're assuming the WaPo cares.
No, no I'm not.
But not bothering to make sure the voter ID number had the right number of digits and that the street name existed is a bigger deal than just the normal everyday lying about stuff.
I always appreciate props for ease in pointing and laughing.
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 15, 2013 05:31 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 15, 2013 05:33 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Al at March 15, 2013 05:33 AM (V70Uh)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2013 05:33 AM (GVxQo)
>>Wonder if CBD has a new car post with Moron ready?
I've waiting for the more recent pic of Vic leaning against a riding mower.
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 15, 2013 05:34 AM (SUKHu)
Hey Vic,
Re that 9th circuit case, Popehat's also written about it and I'm not so sure its such a bad decision.
The cop didn't just fib every now and then. He's pretty much a monster who absent being a cop would probably be in jail himself. It would seem he has a history of making up interview details when he doesn't get the answer they want.
On top of that, there was little to no other evidence, and the two other convicted murders deny the mom was involved.
Posted by: tsrblke at March 15, 2013 05:34 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 15, 2013 05:34 AM (FsUAO)
#402, The WaPo has been delightfully easy to point towards and laugh at for years now... the daily edition is down to what, 30 pages?
Posted by: Jess1 at March 15, 2013 05:34 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2013 09:33 AM (GVxQo)
Thanks, too bad look nothing like that now. Both the car and the build are long gone.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 05:35 AM (53z96)
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2013 05:35 AM (eEfYn)
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Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 15, 2013 05:36 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: tsrblke at March 15, 2013 09:34 AM (GaqMa)
If there is evidence that the case was bad then its a good call. Did they withhold evidence that the two killers said she had nothing to do with it?
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 05:36 AM (53z96)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 15, 2013 09:25 AM (4df7R)
Repeat that all to me in a few years when they start using the federal government to force churches to perform SSM.
Posted by: somebody else, not me at March 15, 2013 05:36 AM (nZvGM)
Posted by: Manolo at March 15, 2013 05:38 AM (PttbO)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 15, 2013 05:39 AM (FsUAO)
Sure do! I'll post it in about one hour, to give the link dump time to fester.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2013 05:39 AM (3Mkrp)
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Posted by: waldo truth at March 15, 2013 05:50 AM (3VhRQ)
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Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 09:36 AM (53z96)
I can't tell. Possibly not, but all they'd have is those two swearing under oath.
The problem (as I understand it) is that the jury was or less told to take the cops word as truth because he was a cop, and not treat it like any other testimony.
Also, the cop was ordered (presumably by his commanding officer) to record the interrogation but for some odd reason decided not to.
If I'm reading Popehat correctly the 9th circuit's ruling basically affirms that all testimony is equal and can be called into question by attacking one's credibility.
Given that, there's more than "reasonable doubt" here (since there's an complete lack of other evidence.) So even if she is guilty, our justice system can't really determine that.
Which I should add is a good thing. The alternative is the supreme court ruling just a few days back that no matter how unreliable a drug dog is, it is to be trusted because it's "trained" and "certified." That's bad law.
Posted by: tsrblke at March 15, 2013 05:56 AM (GaqMa)
We have pick our fights. ~ Nevergiveup
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Wait, what? Never give up after you pick the fight? Sometimes, the fight picks you.
Posted by: RickZ at March 15, 2013 05:56 AM (uJcuF)
Posted by: Todd Akin at March 15, 2013 06:07 AM (BBWjt)
I can crest a hill on my bicycle real fast and it is airborne. When I tell someone about it I don't call it an airplane.
If someone tells me they are married I should know what it means; there is no such thing as "gay marriage." There is no marriage "right" for homosexual couples because marriage is heterosexual. Rights granted by the State which are associated with being married may be changed to include a gay analog to marriage, that's open to debate as a political issue.
I'm tired of having the definitions of words changed for politicla reasons. that's so gay.
Posted by: P MIKE at March 15, 2013 06:10 AM (WXY9S)
Posted by: Danny, channelling Cliff Kincaid at March 15, 2013 06:22 AM (Xv3wY)
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Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 15, 2013 06:28 AM (QupBk)
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Posted by: a mindful webworker at March 15, 2013 06:51 AM (rf20m)
As soon as homosexual marriage is accepted, Muslims will demand polygamy. And THEY will have a genuine historical basis for their demands. Then NAMBLA will get their shot.
Posted by: Harold at March 15, 2013 07:06 AM (JKNLp)
Posted by: JDP at March 15, 2013 07:15 AM (8HhF2)
We've heard enough out of you for the calendar year 2013. Come back when you're a little less Westboro Baptist and a little more human in your obsessions, okay?
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 15, 2013 07:15 AM (bcLhD)
We care about what happens in our churches and our schools. We care about letting a tiny aberrant minority gettig to redefine reality or our children and our society. That's what this is all about.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 15, 2013 08:22 AM (lhyW6)
"A tiny aberrant minority." Agree. And the numbers have also been exaggerated yet repeated in the media.
It is an agenda since civil rights. If the Catholic Church ever folds to the issue then GLTransgenders will finally feel success. Other Protestant denominations are dividing---today---over the issue. To be biblically sound or politically correct? When I read a book (The Gay Gospel by Joe Dallas) regarding this unified agenda/lobby, I learned there have been books written of the gay lovers, Jonathan and David; that scripture is twisted to the point that Jesus healed a Roman centurian's lover who was ill, etc, (there is NO evidence either Jonathan, David or the Roman centurian were homosexuals). Well, I finally (recently) woke up to the mindset and brainwashing of their agenda. Until then I did not care what people did as long as they were not in the street scaring the horses. I still do not care what people do in their own homes. I do care, however, in twisting scripture to authorize and condone gay marriage. I am fine with civil unions. And, let me be clear, I have family members who are gay as well as friends. If they asked me, and they won't, I will tell them I am not ok with gay marriage.
This is a sign of our times: when it takes courage to speak out against gay marriage or be viewed as a bigot, or an old-fashioned Bible-thumper. The Bible, in plain language, does not condone sodomy, adultery, liars, thieves, or incest (to name a few sins). So, I could be cheating on my husband with my nephew, lying to him about what I am doing, while robbing liquor stores to have booze at the motel where I am meeting college nephew for a fling. That would be sinful---you don't pick a sin and say it is ok like a Bible buffet. Yet, in this planned agenda to make gay marriage ok, they argue that the word "homosexual" is not in the Bible. They are correct, but the language is clear you are not to have intercourse with the same sex as men and women in marriage. Jesus said, on the subject which is in both Testaments, that marriage is between a man and a woman. That is clear enough for me.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at March 15, 2013 07:18 AM (baL2B)
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Posted by: Danny at March 15, 2013 07:35 AM (xZCU4)
~Rush Limbaugh
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Posted by: Danny at March 15, 2013 12:13 PM (eRDE9)
It's the Gay MOVEMENT and it's more militant and vocal membership that gets on my thungas.
That and what I said earlier.
Want to be gay and experiment sexually? Fine.
Want to turn that into a protected class with special and separate rights?
No thanks. Not when there's a dozen other different sexual preference groups just waiting for the gays to set the stage for THEIR being afforded THEIR particular play pen.
NO. THANKS.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 15, 2013 12:56 PM (qyv02)
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Posted by: Libtardo at March 15, 2013 02:48 PM (WxJTH)
Calling homosexual relationships "marriage" is like calling a duck a hypotenuse.
No correlation.
Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at March 15, 2013 06:43 PM (EZl54)
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Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2013 02:52 AM (53z96)