March 19, 2013
— Gabriel Malor Happy Tuesday.
Sen. Paul will announce his plan on immigration today. Oh, excuse me, I was told yesterday that I have to use the term "illegal immigration" when I talk about this stuff because otherwise I'm letting my bias show. Well, anyway, Paul is signing on to the "pathway to citizenship" camp, though there's no indication he's part of the bipartisan reform talks currently taking place in D.C.
Jim Pethokoukis isn't that impressed with the GOP budget. But not for the reasons you might think.
California unemployment holds at 9.8 percent, the highest in America.
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Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 02:52 AM (53z96)
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 02:56 AM (XkWWK)
Good morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes. I hope you’ll forgive me the short story today, but the drive in to work took a lot out of me:
Gary Cooper began his career in silent films (check out his performance in 1927’s Wings if you ever have the chance), and, like most actors of the time, didn’t think much of talkies. But it wasn’t the actors who embraced the technology – it was audiences, and they demanded talking movies so quickly that most studios were caught flatfooted.
So it happened that in 1928, Cooper and co-star Nancy Carroll were finishing The Shopworn Angel for MGM. Fifty-nine minutes and forty-five seconds of the hour-long picture ran in silence. Then, as Cooper recalled, years later, “I studied my script containing this new thing called dialogue, until I was letter perfect.”
Came the film’s final scene – a wedding:
COOPER: “I do.”
CARROLL: “I do.”
“On those four words,” Cooper laughed, “the picture was released as a talkie.”
Hope you all have a wonderful day. Stay safe, NE morons.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 19, 2013 02:56 AM (zF6Iw)
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Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 02:57 AM (53z96)
RNC leadershipÂ’s idea: LetÂ’s make the party more like RNC leadership, less like its base
Pretty close to what I have been saying. They want to make sure they lose every State.
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Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 02:57 AM (53z96)
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Posted by: disa at March 19, 2013 02:58 AM (R+h7Q)
Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at March 19, 2013 03:02 AM (HEa5q)
We should be using "illegal migration".
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 03:02 AM (53z96)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at March 19, 2013 03:03 AM (53riN)
HuffPo OpEd on media coverage:
“Terrible reportage…”
“Official sources lied repeatedly and some of the most prestigious members of the Fourth Estate eagerly lapped it up.”
“NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, CNN, and Fox…These news sources also assiduously avoided giving much coverage…”
There are almost 1,500 words in the linked essay. ‘Benghazi’ is not one of them. There may be some grains of truth in the article, which is about the war in Iraq. But to write an article with righteous indignation over press failures to call out the Administration ten years ago and not mention that it's at least as bad now?
http://tinyurl.com/csspk2k
Posted by: MarkW at March 19, 2013 03:04 AM (NVDWF)
Sheesh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 06:53 AM (XkWWK)
It reads like it was written by a fucking flatliner and the conclusions smell like an entombed RINO.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 03:04 AM (9iA12)
Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at March 19, 2013 03:06 AM (zZJJp)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 03:06 AM (JDIKC)
One day, I will live in a world where things on my screen post to the thread as they appear right before I press the 'post' button, complete with proper spacing and carriage returns.
Today is not that day. Yesterday wasn't, either. Back in the barrel for me.
Posted by: MarkW at March 19, 2013 03:07 AM (NVDWF)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 07:06 AM (JDIKC)
So you are saying he isn't selling us out because he never bought in??? From what I had seen he was more rational than crazy dime eyes.
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 03:08 AM (53z96)
Use three hard returns after every paragraph break.
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 03:09 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Jean at March 19, 2013 03:11 AM (k8qQE)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 06:58 AM (XkWWK)
As bad as Michael Steele was, he had the sense to stay out of the fucking way of the 2010 midterms where the party, thanks to the Tea Party, made huge gains. The financial coffers were pretty fucking empty though, so Top Men said he had to go. Now the party got its collective ass kicked, particularly in races where fat fuck Rove was involved, but the party seems to not have a cash problem.
I guess it's not even necessary to pretend about being about winning.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 03:11 AM (9iA12)
Feel free to hide them. Especially on that one topic that shall remain nameless.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 19, 2013 03:12 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 03:12 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 03:12 AM (JDIKC)
Deny them benefits, prosecute people who hire them, and when stopped for various law breaking deport them. The rest will deport themselves when they figure out there is no more free lunch here.
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 03:14 AM (53z96)
Current Federal law uses the term "illegal alien"...which will be what I continue to use.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 03:14 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 03:15 AM (XkWWK)
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Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 07:14 AM (53z96)
I'm in favor of letting them attend public schools to further the goal of breaking the back of that bloated monster. It's not like they're gonna learn anything except what pathetic victims they are.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 03:16 AM (9iA12)
You know, for research purposes
Posted by: Dastardly Dan at March 19, 2013 07:04 AM (2iVM3)
The SOBs haven't even released her name, much less a picture.
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 03:17 AM (53z96)
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Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 19, 2013 03:18 AM (Jcd0S)
Good to know.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 19, 2013 07:14 AM (BeSEI)
Well, yes and no. Some actors did find the transition difficult because their voices didn't come over well, but usually because they had thick accents (Vilma Banky), regional accents (Clara Bow) or physical limitations (Marion Davies' stutter). But it wasn't a wholesale rejection of every silent star.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 19, 2013 03:19 AM (zF6Iw)
I can see how failure to use the approved language could indicate a lack of support for the correct political beliefs, comrade.
Of course, (1) that's idiotic; and (2) I don't believe that the problem is merely "illegal immigration" and not "immigration in general."
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 19, 2013 03:19 AM (jZUEZ)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 03:20 AM (9ScGj)
Just saying.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 07:16 AM (XkWWK)
There are so many natural fissures in the donk cavalcade of deadbeat identity groups that are just begging to be taken advantage of. Too bad that Top Men's favorite consultants would rather go with compassionate conservatism and other value free flights of dumbfuckery to insult people with.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 03:20 AM (9iA12)
And amnesty is defined as anything that allows illegals a pathway to citizenship, including green cards.
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 03:20 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at March 19, 2013 03:20 AM (r2PLg)
Actually no, nowhere does the Immigration and Nationality Act or any other statute use the term "illegal alien."
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 19, 2013 03:22 AM (jZUEZ)
"The SOBs haven't even released her name, much less a picture."
You think we care if it's the actual honey pot in question?
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 03:22 AM (i7B17)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 03:22 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 03:22 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 03:23 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 03:24 AM (XkWWK)
BORDER SECURITY IS THE ISSUE.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 07:12 AM (XkWWK)
What border security? When its cloudy or raining the USBP goes from catching hundreds of illegals to a few dozen in one smuggling corridor to my west. They hardly have a presence here in my valley.
So little presence that an ultralight penetrated 9 miles into our airspace, made a drop just west of me, and returned south. The Customs bird missed the drop because of clouds, and no interception was made.
Border security? We have none.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at March 19, 2013 03:25 AM (ial2b)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 03:26 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 07:22 AM (JDIKC)
Hear hear. How many people know that it means "WithOut Papers"? Too many fucking guineas on school boards must have shitcanned that bit of education.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 03:26 AM (9iA12)
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at March 19, 2013 03:26 AM (ial2b)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 03:27 AM (XkWWK)
18 USC 922(d)(5)
"(5) who, being an alien— (A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or"
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 03:28 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at March 19, 2013 07:03 AM (53riN) Hide posts from (53riN)
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Posted by: Cpl Dislike at March 19, 2013 03:29 AM (oGhdz)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 03:31 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2013 03:31 AM (g7q64)
The "immigration" debate is actully several different issues that politicians mix up for their own purposes (tho some are just dumb):
1. Border Security.
2. Enforcement of Existing Law (OK, lack there of)
3. Bureaucratic red tape nightmare for immigrants.
4. Immigration Quotas. If we want a million Mexicans, have the grapes to tell everyone else no.
5. Cheap labor for ag.
6. Melting Pot vs Balkanism.
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 03:36 AM (i7B17)
OK, Gabe, I'll bite. What's wrong with "immigration in general"?
Posted by: pep at March 19, 2013 03:36 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2013 03:36 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Opus An Arcus at March 19, 2013 03:36 AM (e0/+f)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 03:37 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 03:37 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 03:37 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 03:38 AM (XkWWK)
Gabe, seriously?
They're not illegal? No one should call a thing what it is anymore?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 03:38 AM (sbV1u)
and a horrible lawyer to boot and what is wrong with the GOP.
From the Immigration and Nationality.
(6) Illegal entrants and immigration violators.
(A) 8/ ALIENS PRESENT WITHOUT admission or parole.-
(i) In general.-An alien present in the United States without being admitted or paroled, or who arrives in the United States at any time or place other than as designated by the Attorney General, is inadmissible.
While true there is no specific language that say's illegal alien. The law talks about illegal entrants which is the same damn thing and faggots ass lawyers like Malor know this.
These are the same faggot ass lawyers who look can look you straight in the eye and say the second amendment clause "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed," does not mean what it plainly says.
Posted by: General Woundwort at March 19, 2013 03:40 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 07:37 AM (JDIKC)
Surely not; they're both pretty lib. Yes, I feel like a failure in that regard.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 03:40 AM (9iA12)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2013 03:40 AM (g7q64)
http://tinyurl.com/cshdmet
Buried in this is the information that immigration reform is being hurried because (get this) illegal immigrants were not covered in the original bill! And immigrant groups are upset! SO, to FURTHER burden everyone's insurance policies and tax bills, we must get these illegals legal so they can have insurance!
Seldom have I seen the intersection of TWO hot-button, nation-destroying issues spelled out so clearly. Someone needs to speak out loudly about this.
Jeb Bush will be right on it, I am sure.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 19, 2013 03:40 AM (GoIUi)
Oh, thank you for calling me names, while then admitting that what I said is exactly fucking true. You're a model of something or other.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 19, 2013 03:42 AM (jZUEZ)
Posted by: Bigby's OK at March 19, 2013 03:42 AM (RKtgh)
Little bit carried away there, eh chum?
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 03:43 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 03:43 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2013 03:43 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 19, 2013 03:43 AM (jZUEZ)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at March 19, 2013 03:44 AM (53riN)
Screw you, shitballs.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 19, 2013 03:44 AM (jZUEZ)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 03:45 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 03:45 AM (GQ8sn)
Words mean things you fucking idiot and illegal alien is commonly understood by most rational people as to be someone who has entered the country illegally.
It's mincing, prancing faggot ass lawyers like you that are destroying this country!
Posted by: General Woundwort at March 19, 2013 03:45 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2013 03:46 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 03:46 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Chromoly Man at March 19, 2013 03:46 AM (xw0uG)
As one of my favorite governors says, adios, mofo!
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 19, 2013 03:46 AM (jZUEZ)
That BS does them no favors making them think they're somehow "normalized".
Should they run afoul of US firearms law, they're looking at potential 10yr prison terms and $250,000 fines.
The honorable thing to do is make them fully aware of the limitations and liabilities of their situation even if it "offends" them.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 03:47 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Opus An Arcus at March 19, 2013 03:47 AM (e0/+f)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 07:43 AM (JDIKC)
The married one got hitched to somebody just like me except from India, which means he has an added bonus of hating the mooooooslims even more than I do. I was so pleased.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 03:48 AM (9iA12)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 07:45 AM (9ScGj)
Its the same shit that is bankrupting the Post Offices.
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 03:48 AM (53z96)
I'm sorry but Gabrial Malor is a loathsome odious douchebag of a lawyer and probably the worst of the worst of the COB-LOGGERS.
The only thing more surprising is that he didn't work in gay marriage somehow.
Posted by: General Woundwort at March 19, 2013 03:48 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 19, 2013 03:48 AM (jNNPU)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 03:48 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 19, 2013 07:49 AM (EgOao)
maybe CBD will give us another car this morning.
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 03:50 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 03:50 AM (XkWWK)
That's where I'm coming from.
The term "illegal alien" was perfectly fine in civil discourse right up until the left went on their project to eupehmize the English language. Problem is, no one is fooled and a decade or so later they have to euphemize the euphemism.
For the children.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 03:50 AM (sbV1u)
Note I didn't even list amnesty. Fix the other shit, and accomodating criminal squatters goes away.
Are we dumb enuff for fall for the bait and switch again? Sadly, some of us are.
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 03:50 AM (i7B17)
No, General Woundwort needs to apologize. He won't, of course. Blowhards like him never do.
Posted by: pep at March 19, 2013 03:50 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Opus An Arcus at March 19, 2013 03:51 AM (e0/+f)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 03:51 AM (JDIKC)
People who are upset with the views of a co-blogger should just absent themselves until a new thread starts.
It's too early for this vitriol.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 19, 2013 03:51 AM (GoIUi)
Someone needs to back up and apologize. This thread is getting ugly fast for no reason.
It's Circular Firing Squad Tuesday at the HQ.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 19, 2013 03:51 AM (0IhFx)
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 03:51 AM (i7B17)
And now that I look back on all of that business, I have to ask myself: why bother? It was a huge waste of time. I should have just stayed still and everything I wanted would have happened eventually.
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 03:51 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 03:52 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 03:52 AM (XkWWK)
Who was the baby with the two ettes and the 67 Pontiac?
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 03:53 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2013 03:53 AM (g7q64)
I think we all know what repairs the breach here.
.....
Boobehs.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 03:53 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 07:51 AM (JDIKC)
Oh, hey, look! You're number 1 in my book!
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 03:54 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 03:54 AM (i7B17)
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 03:54 AM (53z96)
Yeah, I know. Sometimes specific people just really need calling out. I've had it with people like him.
Posted by: pep at March 19, 2013 03:54 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 03:55 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at March 19, 2013 07:44 AM (53riN)
Thanks for the added info. I figured there had to be a reason why it was being applied exclusively to Italians/Sicilians.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 03:55 AM (9iA12)
Who sent it in?
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 03:55 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: The Generic, Award Winning Moron at March 19, 2013 03:55 AM (+I8Mq)
.....
Boobehs.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 07:53 AM (sbV1u)
Here you go Bannion. Boobs and she's a "crazy, gun nut."
http://t.co/DNTbDzMTU5
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 03:55 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2013 03:56 AM (g7q64)
To clarify.....erg always deserves it.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 03:56 AM (sbV1u)
The sudden push for immigration reform is because these people are not covered by Obamacare, and will continue to burden hospitals and clinics because they are not covered.
So, rather than realizing they screwed up in writing the law, they want to compound the screw-up with ANOTHER mess.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 19, 2013 03:56 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: sTevo at March 19, 2013 03:56 AM (EPvni)
Don't try to excuse your rudeness with concern for the country. You can be concerned and not act like a fool.
Posted by: pep at March 19, 2013 03:56 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 07:56 AM (53z96)
You mean he forgot and never followed up! Lame!
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 03:56 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 07:55 AM (GQ8sn)
CBD can't remember and she used an email that didn't include her nic here.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 03:57 AM (da5Wo)
You know....I'm generally not a fan of blondes. I just don't "get it" Don't know why.
But I'm a fan of that blonde.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 03:57 AM (sbV1u)
I'm still waiting for a response to the question you posed in a non-confrontational manner, which doesn't seem to be the right way to do it judging from results.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 03:57 AM (9iA12)
It is a tiresome trick, but yeah, technically, in a court of law his lie would be true.
In the real world, on the other hand...
Still, if it must be said, Gabe, I'm sorry some people have to resort to offensive and entirely inappropriate language while disagreeing with you. Frankly, I find it easy enough to disagree with you without needing to go that route. It strikes me as lazy when people do.
One less jerk on these threads is not a bad thing, so thanks for that.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 19, 2013 03:57 AM (BeSEI)
"Oh, excuse me, I was told yesterday that I have to use the term "illegal immigration" when I talk about this stuff because otherwise I'm letting my bias show."
Cry me a river. How is it unbiased to suggest that a fellow who sneaks into the country illegally through Arizona is morally equivalent to a Scandinavian woman who enters legally through New York with a visa and a green card? Because that's what you're doing when you conveniently skip over the "illegal" part of "illegal immigration."
Sean Bannion is right...people who omit the term "illegal" are misleading at best but (imo) being intentionally fraudulent.
Besides, Ron Paul was never really into immigration limits (he was an open borders kind of guy) and in this I just see Rand being his father's son. Not sure what your point is in trying to tweak your philosophical opponents, but I for one never considered Rand as some kind of illegal immigration hawk.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 19, 2013 03:58 AM (F3IIA)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 07:56 AM (GQ8sn)
No he actually labeled the pic later in the day.
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 03:58 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 19, 2013 03:59 AM (ZshNr)
You know the funniest part about all this? I use the term illegal alien, and I support the use of the term illegal alien, and I've even written about that here on the site. (more on that below)
I just object to the idiotic myth that the term is part of federal law, when it's not. It's a convenient shortening of several variations of "alien present in violation of the law" or "alien present in the United States illegally or unlawfully."
Anyway, here's what I wrote about the term. http://goo.gl/iSAiH
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Diversity! Justice Sotomayor Is Lauded for Using The Term "Undocumented Immigrant" in a Supreme Court Opinion
Apparently, the justices have previously used the more accurate terms "alien not lawfully present in the United States" or "illegal alien." But in her very first published decision as a Supreme Court justice, Sotomayor went with (PDF) the technically inaccurate but politically correct euphemism "undocumented immigrants."
The sloppy phrase "undocumented immigrant" is a blurry, inoffensive term. But it's generally meaningless in the context in which it is used. It doesn't mean what it says. It is both underinclusive and overbroad.
It's underinclusive for its purpose because it does not include the entire group of those we ordinarily think of as "illegal aliens." Right? That's the group that Justice Sotomayor and her fellow blurry-brained advocates want to reference when they say "illegal aliens." So they've got to at least cover that whole group.
"Undocumented immigrants" doesn't. Not for legal purposes. The group "illegal aliens" includes many aliens who come to the United States for non-immigrant purposes, but who then decide to stay either temporarily or for the longer term. These aren't "immigrants." Not in the legal sense. They may have entered on the usual B1/B2 "business or pleasure" visa. Or they may have entered on a student visa and then dropped out of school for a while or gone to a different school than the one they were authorized for.
Those admissions to the United States are not as "immigrants." For legal purposes, they are nonimmigrant aliens. Sotomayor and others are attempting to blur that distinction. They'd like it if people forgot that when that group entered the United States, they promised to leave. Sotomayor'd like them to get treatment under the laws for immigrants, not the laws for nonimmigrant status violators.
More than that, many status violators aren't immigrants even in the conversational sense. They actually intend to go back where they came from...just not quite yet. Student visa violators do that a lot (it used to be a good way to make some nice American cash before bugging out).
This blurring of the lines is a cancer for legal purposes. Judges rely on precedent to guide them in many circumstances. And now the highest court in the land is casually dropping vague euphemisms, apt for quotation and further metastization in the hands of lawyers and judges and advocates all over the country.
So it's underinclusive. But it's also overbroad. Because many of those we think of as "illegal aliens" are not actually "undocumented." Like I just wrote, many of them entered with temporary, non-immigrant visas which they later violated. They have documentation. It's just not documentation giving them lawful status. It's not like these folks are unknown. Or have no birth certificates or IDs or passports. They do.
They are in "unlawful status", as it were. But most recognize that calling them "unlawful aliens" is as inaccurate as calling them "undocumented aliens" because it carries a vastly more criminal connotation than the term "illegal aliens."
Illegal immigration advocates don't like the term "illegal alien" because (they say) "No person is illegal!" Well, whatever.
We're not talking about aliens' existence and they know it. We're talking about status. That's doubly true for the courts, which really don't care to waste time on your philosophical discussion about the whether or not people living in shadows really exist and just want to know whether aliens have entered the United States legally.
If you want to get down to it, the most correct term under the relevant law (the Immigration and Nationality Act) is "alien not lawfully present in the United States." But that's a bitch of a mouthful, so "illegal alien" is better for most purposes. It avoids the negative connotations of "unlawful alien" while capturing the entire relevant group: all aliens who are here illegally.
Extra: alexthechick says that I should mention that this case isn't an immigration case. She's right; it's a rules lawyer-ish discussion of interlocutory appeals in which the underlying case involves illegal immigrants. Justice Sotomayor's mention of undocumented immigrants is used only to describe the background.
Knowing that, the first use of the fuzzy term "undocumented immigrants" in a Supreme Court decision is noteworthy. As we have written about on, oh, several hundred occassions: words matter.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 19, 2013 03:59 AM (jZUEZ)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 03:59 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 04:00 AM (JDIKC)
I expect Gabe's blood pressure was a wee bit elevated. I hope he'll get to an answer when he's more relaxed.
Posted by: pep at March 19, 2013 04:00 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 04:00 AM (i7B17)
Ah. Then I retract my plaintive rhetorical whine above. I see your point.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:01 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at March 19, 2013 04:02 AM (53riN)
Posted by: Up and cummers #14 at March 19, 2013 04:02 AM (9sjmH)
::: shifty eyes :::
Did anyone notice?
How long was I gone?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:03 AM (sbV1u)
*Corrected for grammer and word use.*
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 04:03 AM (i7B17)
Do the enablers of criminal immigrants also call these people as "poor unfortunates living in the shadows, who deserve special treatment" ...
Millions of North Koreans crossing into the South in 1950?
Millions of North Vietnamese crossing into the South in the 1970s?
Millions of Germans crossing into Poland in 1939?
French crossing into Italy, the Germanies, Spain, Portugal, Russia in the 1780s, 1790s, 1800s & 1810s?
No we call them invasions.
Hint for the supporters of amnesty for illegal immigration ... what does the hispanic portion of the current invasion of the US call themselves?
They call themselves "Reconquerers" and their effort the "Reconquest"
The "poor, helpless people living in the shadows" know that they are at war with the USA.
Why are the enablers of the invaders silent and apparently blind to this?
Posted by: Mark E at March 19, 2013 04:03 AM (w5RwR)
Posted by: toby928© presents at March 19, 2013 04:03 AM (QupBk)
That would be the sound of Rinse Pubics(sp) hammering the final nails into the GOP coffin.
RIP
Posted by: Attila at March 19, 2013 04:04 AM (Cs2tJ)
Oh yes, we have some problems with "legal immigration" as well. The last change to the law made it favor chain migration of the families of the people already here. That along with the last amnesty round has resulted in a huge influx of the same types of people who came here illegally before, except that they are legal now. That chain migration is using up all the available billets for legal immigrants.
There is absolutely no preference given to skilled poeple coming in. In addition, we still are not blocking immigration from countries that favor terrorists and who are literally swarming with them.
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 04:04 AM (53z96)
Posted by: The Generic, Award Winning Moron at March 19, 2013 04:04 AM (+I8Mq)
Heh. There were two Catholic churches in my town and when I was working for one of them in college, I answered the phone one time and the guy said, "This is gonna sound crazy, but I really think I need an exorcist." I said, "hold on one second," and asked the priest what he wanted to do. He said, "tell 'em to call Father Bob" -- over at the other church in town -- "and that he's an expert in that." There were LOLs.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 19, 2013 04:04 AM (jZUEZ)
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 04:06 AM (i7B17)
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 19, 2013 04:06 AM (z+Xap)
It wasn't until East Coast fascists got into the giving shit away free business that people started coming here from Mexico on a permanent basis as the rule instead of the exception.
-----
Without question. And the push for voting rights for those illegals isn't from some kind of fealty to the concept of human rights as much as it is to allow the FSA recruits to keep the gravy train coming.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 19, 2013 04:07 AM (F3IIA)
Bill? Is that you? I hear Hillary plans on making a run.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 04:08 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:08 AM (yAor6)
J.J. Sefton; been driving me nuts trying to remember where I knew that name from, but it finally came to me. William Holden's character in "Stalag 17". Here's a bit of trivia about that flick; something that Billy Wilder didn't get quite right, although for him to have done so would probably have taken too long. There is a scene in the movie when a guy comes into Sefton's barracks to give the day's camp announcements ("At ease!" in that very nasal voice).
At one point he says "All the men from Texas are to meet behind the camp latrine" at a certain time. That's not quite right. What he should have said was that all men from Texas A&M University are to meet for muster at that place and time, which would have been April 21, which is San Jacinto Day in Texas (anniversary of the day when Sam Houston and the Texas Army opened a can of whipass on Santa Anna and his crew, thus winning Texas' independence from Mexico).
Every April 21st, the Aggies "muster", get together to visit and read off the names of those fellow Aggies who had passed that year. They still did this during World War II, while scattered to the four winds during that conflict.
For instance, a shipmate of my father (he served in the Navy during WW II in the South Pacific) was an Aggie, and learned that a muster was being held nearby (the Admiralty Islands), and he attended. Later he told my father it was kind of odd in that he was about the only enlisted man there (he had attended A&M for a couple of years, then enlisted in the Navy; the guy went back and completed his degree after the war). All the rest were officers, even a few admirals. Yet they still treated him as an equal, a fellow Aggie, not something an enlisted man usually encountered with naval officers, especially in those days.
Probably the most famous Aggie Muster was held on Corregidor, during the Japanese seige of that fortress. Another was held there right after the liberation of the Phillippines, by the few Aggies who had survived the fall of Corregidor, the Bataan Death March, etc.
Posted by: Cave Bear at March 19, 2013 04:08 AM (NKoXJ)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 19, 2013 04:08 AM (ZshNr)
I hear Magpul is making good on it's threat to leave CO for parts unknown. Good for them. I hope CO realizes what a clusterfuck they've made for themselves. They don't deserve Magpul.
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:09 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 19, 2013 04:09 AM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 19, 2013 04:09 AM (EgOao)
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 04:09 AM (i7B17)
Oh.
My.
My, my, my, my, my.
Is is too much to hope that that's a self-portrait?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:09 AM (sbV1u)
Allah? I kid, I kid
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:10 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 19, 2013 04:10 AM (OevbG)
in the comments and then summarily ban the people who lost their temper."
Madison Conservative also comes to mind, on that I don't kid at all
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:11 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 04:11 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 04:12 AM (9ScGj)
But it's for the children.
I need a lot more healing.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:12 AM (sbV1u)
Good rhythm, nice beat, you can dance to it.
I give it a 94.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:13 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2013 04:13 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: The Generic, Award Winning Moron at March 19, 2013 04:13 AM (+I8Mq)
A lawyer dies and arrives in hell to find his partner kissing the beautiful woman.
He asks Beelzebub "How did my partner get to do this."
Beelzebub says "Who are you to question her eternal torment?"
Posted by: sTevo at March 19, 2013 04:14 AM (EPvni)
It's the magic ratio!
I remember reading something about a study done and why men seemed to favour one body type over another. The male brain is able to precisely determine the optimum waist-to-hip ratio in an instant.
We're hardwired that way!
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:14 AM (GQ8sn)
(but please ship my order of February 17th first)
Posted by: The Generic, Award Winning Moron at March 19, 2013 08:13 AM (+I8Mq)
See link at #4
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 04:15 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 19, 2013 04:15 AM (EgOao)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 19, 2013 04:15 AM (jZUEZ)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 19, 2013 04:15 AM (U//mQ)
Posted by: The Generic, Award Winning Moron at March 19, 2013 04:15 AM (+I8Mq)
After an hour last night, I found one, count 'em ONE box of .45 ACP available online.
.223 shortage I get. But .45? Really? When all this started I could still always find .45 even if it took a few minutes. Not anymore.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:16 AM (sbV1u)
Adjustment to Immigrant Status - Procedure allowing certain aliens already in the .... in the Immigration and Nationality Act. This includes any alien illegally in the ...
www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/.../0-0-0-9025.html
(a) Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or ... FN 1 Added by § 105 of IIRIRA , applicable "to illegal entries or attempts to ... IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY ACT \ INA: ACT 275 - ENTRY OF ALIEN AT
In U.S. law, an alien is "any person not a citizen or national of the United States."[7] The U.S. Government's use of alien dates back to 1798, when it was used in the Alien and Sedition Acts.[8] U.S. law makes a clear distinction between aliens and immigrants by defining immigrants as a subset of aliens.[7] Although U.S. law provides no overarching explicit definition of the term "illegal alien," the term is used in many statute
Posted by: ette at March 19, 2013 04:16 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 04:16 AM (i7B17)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 04:17 AM (XkWWK)
Mother Theresa and a lawyer fall overboard in a storm. She's eaten immediately by sharks, the lawyer is subsequently rescued.
When asked how he survived the shark attack the lawyer responds "professional courtesy".
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 04:17 AM (/gHaE)
How much did you pay per round?
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:18 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Fritz at March 19, 2013 04:18 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 04:18 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: ette at March 19, 2013 04:19 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 04:19 AM (JDIKC)
$1.42
Yeah. IN-SANE.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:19 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 04:19 AM (i7B17)
Posted by: zsasz at March 19, 2013 04:19 AM (MMC8r)
One is a bottom-dwelling, cold blooded mud feeder.
The other is a fish
Posted by: Dastardly Dan at March 19, 2013 04:19 AM (2iVM3)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 19, 2013 08:09 AM (QTHTd)
When that idiocy reached critical mass I just stopped posting there and haven't even checked on the level of insanity for a long time. Too bad because the commenters, some of whom have migrated (legally) here, were pretty good. I didn't see any value in confronting bike boy on the way out the door since he had all the blog control. So I quietly left; and never pass up an opportunity to trash him elsewhere.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 04:20 AM (9iA12)
>>>>Why are the enablers of the invaders silent and apparently blind to this?
You ever watch nature specials about gorillas, or watch them at the zoo? There's a situation where an old silverback is getting challenged by a young rival. The silverback sits there while the rival is right over his head screaming, pounding his chest, threatening - but the silverback acts like nothing is happening and doesn't even look at the rival.
The reason is because the rival actually would kick the silverback's ass, but as long as he doesn't acknowledge the rival the fight never happens and he maintains his control of the group.
Posted by: Bigby's Orthotic Elbow at March 19, 2013 04:20 AM (3ZtZW)
I'm sure Mrs. EoJ was pleased.
Wait, don't tell me. She was running the video.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:20 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2013 04:20 AM (g7q64)
Viv-
You still here? I cannot open your link on the herding of people into urban areas. Sounds like Agenda 21 to me.
Will you share your source?
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 19, 2013 04:21 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 04:21 AM (i7B17)
Posted by: a mindful webworker at March 19, 2013 04:21 AM (izPgb)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 04:22 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2013 04:23 AM (g7q64)
$1.42
Yeah. IN-SANE.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 08:19 AM (sbV1u)
WTF? Are they made of silver for killing werewolves?
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:23 AM (GQ8sn)
CA Election Results: 08 (O wins 61% of the vote), 12 (O wins 60% of the vote)
CO Election Results: 08 (O wins 54% of the vote) 12 (O wins 51% of the vote)
I wouldn't say it's CA-East just yet but it's leaning that way
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:24 AM (yAor6)
I can't find any reasonably priced .45ACP or .40SandW. And I check on-line almost every day.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 19, 2013 04:24 AM (3Mkrp)
http://www.un.org/esa/agenda21/natlinfo/wssd/summarypublication.pdf
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 04:24 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:24 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2013 04:25 AM (g7q64)
Where?!?!?!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:25 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 19, 2013 08:10 AM (OevbG)
Everybody loves and can appreciate a good set of tits.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 04:25 AM (da5Wo)
Her mom looks like she's still in good shape too, though her surgeon fucked up the implants. They look horrible in certain poses.
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:26 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2013 04:26 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 04:26 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2013 04:26 AM (g7q64)
C'mon guys.. we have peace and harmony in the morning thread...
Well, I'm off to work.. y'all have a nice day..
At ease.. at ease..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 19, 2013 04:26 AM (UTq/I)
EC, please share with the class, or you will have to go into the barrel!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 19, 2013 04:27 AM (3Mkrp)
Use this page to troll a bunch of sites at once for the best price. You can find great deals if you check the page at the right time. Just be prepared to move fast!
http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/45acp/
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:27 AM (GQ8sn)
4And Magpul says CO can go to hell because they are going to TX.
sigh. i did send a formal invitation for them to relocate to Indiana.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 19, 2013 04:27 AM (UrENZ)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:28 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: occam at March 19, 2013 04:28 AM (GUG2O)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 04:30 AM (jCyfP)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 04:30 AM (9ScGj)
Thanks!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:31 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 04:31 AM (FsUAO)
...two hours and $500 CAN later.
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:32 AM (GQ8sn)
ever since I re-appeared on here I've been worried about him. never saw him before that so I guess he came around the 2012 campaign? dude was always angry and trying to poke someone
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:32 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 19, 2013 04:32 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 04:32 AM (i7B17)
You still here? I cannot open your link on the herding of people into urban areas. Sounds like Agenda 21 to me.
Will you share your source?
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 19, 2013 08:21 AM (Sptt
If you are talking about #15 it is from The Corner at NRO yesterday. I think the link came from Drudge. Try this
http://www.nationalreview.com/author/56399
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 04:33 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 04:33 AM (jCyfP)
Posted by: Case at March 19, 2013 04:33 AM (FKGw9)
Cause I'm thinking that's the biggest load of bullshit on this site outside a DrewM post.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 04:34 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:34 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 04:34 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 04:35 AM (FsUAO)
You know the funniest part about all this? I use the term illegal alien, and I support the use of the term illegal alien, and I've even written about that here on the site. (more on that below)
I just object to the idiotic myth that the term is part of federal law, when it's not. It's a convenient shortening of several variations of "alien present in violation of the law" or "alien present in the United States illegally or unlawfully."
Anyway, here's what I wrote about the term. http://goo.gl/iSAiH
___________________________________
Diversity! Justice Sotomayor Is Lauded for Using The Term "Undocumented Immigrant" in a Supreme Court Opinion
Apparently, the justices have previously used the more accurate terms
"alien not lawfully present in the United States" or "illegal alien."
But in her very first published decision as a Supreme Court justice, Sotomayor went with (PDF) the technically inaccurate but politically correct euphemism "undocumented immigrants."
The sloppy phrase "undocumented immigrant" is a blurry, inoffensive
term. But it's generally meaningless in the context in which it is used.
It doesn't mean what it says. It is both underinclusive and overbroad.
It's underinclusive for its purpose because it does not include the
entire group of those we ordinarily think of as "illegal aliens." Right?
That's the group that Justice Sotomayor and her fellow blurry-brained
advocates want to reference when they say "illegal aliens." So they've
got to at least cover that whole group.
"Undocumented immigrants" doesn't. Not for legal purposes. The group
"illegal aliens" includes many aliens who come to the United States for
non-immigrant purposes, but who then decide to stay either temporarily
or for the longer term. These aren't "immigrants." Not in the legal
sense. They may have entered on the usual B1/B2 "business or pleasure"
visa. Or they may have entered on a student visa and then dropped out of
school for a while or gone to a different school than the one they were
authorized for.
Those admissions to the United States are not as "immigrants." For
legal purposes, they are nonimmigrant aliens. Sotomayor and others are
attempting to blur that distinction. They'd like it if people forgot
that when that group entered the United States, they promised to leave.
Sotomayor'd like them to get treatment under the laws for immigrants,
not the laws for nonimmigrant status violators.
More than that, many status violators aren't immigrants even in the
conversational sense. They actually intend to go back where they came
from...just not quite yet. Student visa violators do that a lot (it used
to be a good way to make some nice American cash before bugging out).
This blurring of the lines is a cancer for legal purposes. Judges
rely on precedent to guide them in many circumstances. And now the
highest court in the land is casually dropping vague euphemisms, apt for
quotation and further metastization in the hands of lawyers and judges
and advocates all over the country.
So it's underinclusive. But it's also overbroad. Because many of
those we think of as "illegal aliens" are not actually "undocumented."
Like I just wrote, many of them entered with temporary, non-immigrant
visas which they later violated. They have documentation. It's just not
documentation giving them lawful status. It's not like these folks are
unknown. Or have no birth certificates or IDs or passports. They do.
They are in "unlawful status", as it were. But most recognize that
calling them "unlawful aliens" is as inaccurate as calling them
"undocumented aliens" because it carries a vastly more criminal
connotation than the term "illegal aliens."
Illegal immigration advocates don't like the term "illegal alien" because (they say) "No person is illegal!" Well, whatever.
If you want to get down to it, the most correct term under the
relevant law (the Immigration and Nationality Act) is "alien not
lawfully present in the United States." But that's a bitch of a
mouthful, so "illegal alien" is better for most purposes. It avoids the
negative connotations of "unlawful alien" while capturing the entire
relevant group: all aliens who are here illegally.
Extra: alexthechick says that I should mention that this case
isn't an immigration case. She's right; it's a rules lawyer-ish
discussion of interlocutory appeals in which the underlying case
involves illegal immigrants. Justice Sotomayor's mention of undocumented
immigrants is used only to describe the background.
Knowing that, the first use of the fuzzy term "undocumented
immigrants" in a Supreme Court decision is noteworthy. As we have
written about on, oh, several hundred occassions: words matter.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 19, 2013 07:59 AM (jZUEZ)
coughing..
That was a very nice post Gabriel I wish i had seen it, now my bing finger is broke!~
Posted by: ette at March 19, 2013 04:35 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 04:35 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 04:36 AM (FsUAO)
Well, one man's chump is another man's savvy consumer.
What was the address again?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:36 AM (sbV1u)
Well, there was a stage so maybe he was there as an art critic.
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:36 AM (GQ8sn)
Now.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 08:36 AM (sbV1u)
whine starts to heat up..
but it's dirty in there!
Do i have to clean it or hang curtains?
Posted by: ette at March 19, 2013 04:37 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: puffy at March 19, 2013 04:37 AM (+GJFM)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 19, 2013 04:37 AM (OevbG)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2013 04:37 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 04:37 AM (i7B17)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2013 04:37 AM (Cnqmv)
Good. Ette- barrel.
Posted by: Award Winning Blog Commentator Beefy Meatball at March 19, 2013 04:38 AM (i7B17)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 04:38 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:38 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 04:38 AM (FsUAO)
Take that!
Posted by: ette at March 19, 2013 04:38 AM (nqBYe)
* He left registration on overnight once and I went into my comcast account and created new email names, then loaded up on socks. Lathered, rinsed, repeated for about an hour. Handed them out to other lfgers like candy. When the end came, he was banning people but they lived on.
Posted by: Regular Moron at March 19, 2013 08:32 AM (feFL6)
That produces a *very* creepy image of that pudgy fuck and his ham-handed excuse for programming "skills" up to all hours banning plenty of innocuous accounts.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 04:39 AM (9iA12)
No, but take the power sprayer over there in the corner and disinfect it.
You're probably going to want to do that anyway.
Try not to touch anything.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:39 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 04:39 AM (9ScGj)
This.
It never pays....so don't ever try.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:40 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 19, 2013 04:40 AM (OevbG)
I'll move to the city.
If I can have a brownstone fortress like Will Smith in I Am Legend
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:42 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 04:42 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 08:38 AM (JDIKC)
That's a good way to avoid a bunch of completely unnecessary problems.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 04:42 AM (9iA12)
I like Glenn MOST times but he has been way out there at times. He's one of those I think you have to take in doses.
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:42 AM (yAor6)
270 She doesn't care if I occasionally stumble in on purpose with the boys, BCochran. She's stumbled in with me when we've been out with friends a few times for a goof. I never bullshit the wife.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 08:38 AM (JDIKC)
Just giving you a hard time. And yeah, never bullshit the wife. That's a quick way to lose half your shit.
I'm not a strip club fan. Don't much see the point. I mean, I'm gonna turn over a bunch of money to a chick who's naked and doing everything she can to turn me on (to get more money out of me) and not only do I not get sex for that money, I don't even get to touch? And if I do touch, then some steroided up bouncer kicks the shit out of me and tosses me out on my ass. Nah, I'll pass.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 04:42 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2013 04:43 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at March 19, 2013 04:43 AM (wbeNt)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 04:44 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 08:38 AM (JDIKC)
Very wise. Marriages seem to work quite well with this rule in place.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 19, 2013 04:45 AM (3Mkrp)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 04:45 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 04:45 AM (XkWWK)
So you know the barista at my morning coffee joint?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:46 AM (sbV1u)
Tell that to one woman I know who is convinced of every right-wing conspiracy theory out there. Birtherism, Breitbart was murdered, election stolen, etc all her reasonings for everything that goes wrong for us. She despises me for not buying into any of it. I welcome her hate.
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:46 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 04:46 AM (XkWWK)
Philly mayor claims that the race relations speech isn't protected by first amendment. Story in handle.
But yet that assmunch Holder says that whites are the ones who are too cowardly to have an honest discussion about race. Thanks, Mayor Nutter, for convincing me Filthadelphia doesn't need my tourist money.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 19, 2013 04:46 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 19, 2013 04:47 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 04:47 AM (9iA12)
This is EXACTLY how I feel about them. My friends think I'm nuts though.
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:47 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 04:48 AM (jCyfP)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 08:46 AM (sbV1u)
You get your coffee from a place that has a barista?
RINO.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 04:48 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 04:48 AM (XkWWK)
Money for what? He was asking for donations?
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:48 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 08:48 AM (jCyfP)
They rentin rooms by the hour? Lol.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 04:49 AM (da5Wo)
Is barista another word for Dunkin Donuts employee?
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:50 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 04:50 AM (XkWWK)
I must admit I've never given even $0.01 to ace. Any donation I've made has been to charities or GOP campaigns
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:50 AM (yAor6)
I don't even know what the question was.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 19, 2013 04:50 AM (jZUEZ)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 19, 2013 04:51 AM (feFL6)
That's not universally true; at Mons Venus in Tampa you can touch anything except the va-jay-jay.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 19, 2013 04:51 AM (OevbG)
It's a good thing ace will never go full retard once he starts getting more money from us now that he's won Blog O' The Year 2013.
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:52 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 04:52 AM (XkWWK)
Yeah. Here: http://tinyurl.com/buerkgh
Seriously, if it wasn't the best coffee I've ever had in my life...I wouldn't. Mostly because Al Gore was once spotted in there.
If liking this manna from heaven makes me a RINO...then RINO I am.
Just keep your dick beaters OFF. MY. COFFEE.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:52 AM (sbV1u)
That's not 100% true the time I was there.
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 04:52 AM (GQ8sn)
Talking Tampa strip clubs, which is the one with the "spaceship"? I hear some lurid BTS stuff happens in that "spaceship"
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:52 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 19, 2013 08:50 AM (jZUEZ)[/i[
#77
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2013 04:53 AM (9iA12)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 04:53 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 19, 2013 08:51 AM (OevbG)
And it's $40 to get in the damn door. Or it was circa 2000.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 04:54 AM (da5Wo)
Delta Hotel.
I remember being called that countless times at OSUT.
Of course, it meant "dickhead" so there's that...
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:54 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:55 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Jess1 at March 19, 2013 04:55 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 04:55 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 04:56 AM (XkWWK)
so I'm off binging stuff , (ok and getting more coffee)the subject moved on and points made were lost. and i spend the next 20 minutes trying to catch up to everything .
type slower guys, one finger will do .
Posted by: ette at March 19, 2013 04:56 AM (nqBYe)
more like MD kicked people out to VA per their taxes. VA then suffered because these (excuse me for not using a better term) retards decided they'd vote the same way even after the failed results. VA is not gone yet but it's trending that way
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 19, 2013 04:56 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2013 04:56 AM (XYSwB)
One finger?
DON'T..........MUST. NOT. COMMENT.
Arrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhh
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 04:57 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Keith Olbermann at March 19, 2013 04:58 AM (wIgpo)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 04:58 AM (XkWWK)
That right there tells you he is not serious. The ONLY way we can stop it is to first fix E-Verify to make sure it is accurate and then force employers to use it. AND punish them when they don't use it.
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 04:58 AM (53z96)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 04:59 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 19, 2013 04:59 AM (feFL6)
****
The problem with Jones is he always has to go over the top and make shit up about any subject he covers when the truth is disturbing and alarming enough.
Posted by: The Generic, Award Winning Moron at March 19, 2013 04:59 AM (+I8Mq)
http://is.gd/GCNhTx
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 06:57 AM (53z96)
I support citizenship for illegals too; back in their own goddam country.
Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2013 04:59 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 05:00 AM (FsUAO)
Yeah, I'm with BC and EoJ. I'm just not a window shopper.
If I can't have it, there's no point in looking.
However....
You haven't truly lived until you've experienced "Amateur Night" at Rick's Lounge in Fayetteville, NC with 300 drunken, screaming paratroopers.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 05:01 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 19, 2013 05:01 AM (bb5+k)
No DL. He wasn't.
His point was much more narrow. That the term "illegal alien" is nowhere to be found in Federal law.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 05:02 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 19, 2013 05:02 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 09:01 AM (sbV1u)
Soooo....did they money y'all spent cover the cost of the property damage?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 05:03 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 05:03 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 19, 2013 05:03 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 19, 2013 05:03 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 19, 2013 05:05 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 09:02 AM (sbV1u)
Which is a technical legalese point. Nowhere does it specifically use the phrase "illegal aliens", it just refers to aliens which are illegal.
"No Your Honor, I did not call you a cocksucker. I said that was a cocksucking decision you just made."
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 05:05 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 19, 2013 05:05 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 19, 2013 05:07 AM (tOkJB)
Gabe can defend himself.
Just saying, I originally thought what you thought. But I've been here for the whole thread, and that wasn't where he was going.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 05:08 AM (sbV1u)
When someone breaks into your home, you should just refer to them as unexpected guests.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2013 05:09 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 19, 2013 05:11 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at March 19, 2013 05:11 AM (zZJJp)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 05:11 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Icedog at March 19, 2013 05:12 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 05:13 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 19, 2013 05:13 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 19, 2013 05:15 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 19, 2013 09:15 AM (bb5+k)
The strongest buttress to your argument is the occupant of the White House.
Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2013 05:21 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: H. at March 19, 2013 05:23 AM (zCQAZ)
The only way I can put a shine on this turd is to hope that with a pathway to citizenship, comes a subsequent reform of entitlements.
Milton Friedman once said that illegal immigration was great, so long as it remained illegal. Once you have masses of poor people who are legal citizens, they are entitled to the same government benefits as any other citizen.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at March 19, 2013 05:27 AM (8cOY0)
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Posted by: Horrified Observer at March 19, 2013 05:59 AM (/sohm)
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