Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 27, 2013 06:56 AM (tqLft)

She will not have to because under Chapter 7 even tax liabilities (with a few exceptions) are forgiven.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 27, 2013 06:56 AM (tqLft)

There is already president for that. RR started enforcing the BS LOST even though we never ratified it.

17Indian Tribes want a bailout too. Hey folks, if you canÂ’t make money with a casino you need to pack it up and get a real job. And why in the 21st century are we still maintaining this farce of Indian reservations anyway?

John Stossel did a great piece one time about freeloaders, it compared a tribe in NC (i think) who didn't get govt handouts vs other tribes that do. I was amazing. Having grown up on or near a reservation in my younger years I have seen first hand what damage is being done. It's a shame

OK - Ed Anger asked for a Jack Webb story and I've got one.  It's not a very nice one, but Webb in many ways wasn't a very nice fellow.

 
Jack Webb was born in Los Angeles in 1920, a desperately poor child who suffered so badly from asthma that his mother often had to carry him up to their third-floor apartment.  A shy, withdrawn child, his condition prevented him from playing with other children, so he found refuge in his imagination, reading pulp fiction (especially hard-boiled police stories) and collecting little trinkets and souvenirs he fished from the trash.

 
One of Webb's neighbors had been a horn player and taught young Jack to play.  Later in life, Webb would amass an extensive jazz collection and would even direct and star in a jazz film, Pete Kelly's Blues, which also starred Andy Devine, Peggy Lee, Jayne Mansfield, Lee Marvin and Ella Fitzgerald.  Webb would go on to marry the sultry singer Julie London, but their marriage (in 1945, when Webb was beginning a career as a radio announcer) would end in divorce in 1953, London citing Webb's physical brutality as the motivating factor.

 
Which brings us to the story, courtesy of the poor man's Jayne Mansfield (who herself was the poor man's Marilyn Monroe), B-movie queen Mamie Van Doren.  On a date, she said, Webb spiked her drink.  "The next thing I knew, I was naked, lying spread-eagled on a four-poster bed, my arms and legs tied to each bedpost.  As the fog in my brain lifted, I looked up and saw Sergeant Joe Friday having sex with me with a wild look in his eyes."

 
Sorry to be so brief, but it's another one of those days.  See you all tomorrow.

Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2013 06:52 AM (53z96)

NDH and I talked about this on twitter yesterday. Rick Scott is making some noise about it. I think it's too much mealy mouthed politician speak on his part ("it's offensive, intolerant even"), but he did speak up about it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 27, 2013 07:15 AM (da5Wo)

How popular is Scott?  He was Tea Party, no?  I can't imagine the way he caved to the race hustlers on Saint Trayvon and appointed that publicity mongering skeezer to fuck things up instead of telling them to fuck off and let the system work the way it was designed, has many people impressed with him.

"So if you take a college class now "

"College" now equal to "middle school babysitting", btw.

Note the absence of such "classes" in subjects such as Geology, Trig, Calc., etc...

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2013 07:23 AM (VkF8y)

He's getting absolutely murdered in the polls....by Charlie Crist.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 27, 2013 07:29 AM (da5Wo)

Just fucking wonderful.  Has Scott done any other dumbass things to make him indistinguishable from a commiecrat?

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 27, 2013 07:36 AM (Cnqmv)

Any state that willfully elects Alan Grayson to anything deserves to be shat upon continually and copiously.

The White House is telling Sens. Paul, Cruz, and Lee not to filibuster
gun control legislation because it's unwelcoming to the families of kids
killed by gun violence.

If Paul, Cruz and Lee had any balls, they'd tell the dog-eating cokehead that his presence in the White House is unwelcoming to the families of border agents and Mexicans killed by Fast and Furious gun violence.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2013 07:34 AM (VkF8y)

The Martin case was the first screw up. I will say, in his defense, that the jackass prosecutor was generally regarded as a no nonsense, tough on crime prosecutor. She obv lost her fucking mind on the Martin case and I think that caught a lot of people off guard.

And of course the O-care cave fucked him. It's less about what he's done, and more about the Left harping and pounding about him nonstop. Like PurpAv said, they've successfully demonized him.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2013 07:38 AM (VkF8y)

You do realize that he's elected by a small portion of the state right? A thing called a district? And that the rest of us don't get a choice?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 27, 2013 07:39 AM (da5Wo)

I heard that too but when you set the stage by letting yourself get rolled by the likes of Shakedown Jackson and Profit We Much, you're pretty much rolling out the red carpet for dumbfuck behavior.  He has only himself to blame imo.

I am thinking one strong puff and the whole house will collapse.[[i/]

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 27, 2013 07:40 AM (Cnqmv)[/i]

Whenever I heard people complaining about the health care system, I'd tell them that we had the best fucking system in the world and that screwing around with it in the way they were shilling for was gonna permanently break it.  They looked at me like I didn't know WTF I was talking about.

If we'd had anything approaching a fair election, Romney wins big. Instead we had bus after bus of Somalians w/ the same birth date here in Columbus, rampant fraud in Hamilton & Cuyahoga counties. 9 or 10 districts in Cleveland where Romney didn't get ONE single vote. Of course they found people, after the fact, who claimed they voted for Romney in those districts...where did those votes go?

Shh, shh!  Nasty questions like that make Baby Boehner cry.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 27, 2013 07:41 AM (da5Wo)

Yes but Hollowpoint keeps banging the point that a bipartisan commission redistricted Allen West out of his seat and into a much more donk district so I'm assuming that Jeb Bush and Rove's catamites have made the state party pretty fucking worthless.  I'd welcome a more optimistic read on things.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2013 07:46 AM (VkF8y)

If I had to guess as to his thinking, always a dangerous thing to do, he prob thought "Here, I'll put the tough as nails prosecutor in charge. That way, if/when this thing is dismissed, no one can claim we soft pedaled it."

Aaaannnndddd then she lost her ever loving fucking mind. I'd be stunned if she's not disciplined by the Florida State Bar. Some of the shit she's pulled could get her disbarred.

According to his IMDB bio Webb was an interesting character, so I figured there had to be at least one good story about him.

Sorry it couldn't be a better story, Ed.  I, too, find Webb fascinating, especially the early Dragnets in B&W.  I do wonder if working with Erich von Stroheim on Sunset Boulevard rubbed off on him, since he was as fanatical about getting the LAPD right as Von was getting details right in his movies.

Webb even went so far as to have all the telephones on set contain actual LAPD extensions, even though no-one would ever see them.  And the set was dressed by the same suppliers who sold equipment to the cops.

Sorry about your dad.  Prayers your way.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2013 07:55 AM (VkF8y)

I don't know what that's about. My guess? West pissed somebody off big time. I've never heard an explanation for that debacle. But there's an R as Gov (other than the O-care shitsandwich he's been fairly reliable) and a pretty comfortably R Legislature. Florida is a bit of a microcosm for the rest of the country. Most of the state is red, but the high population areas are hard blue.

OT, but does anyone else have to complete mandated sexual harassment training through their employer?

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I had to, way back when I worked for the Feds and in the wake of the Anita Hill thing.  The video they showed was particularly stupid.  A group of us were in the back of the room critiquing the technique of the "harassers."

Funny thing...one of the things dumped on by the video was some older guy calling a young woman "honey."  This was in an office where the Office Manager was a sweet 60-year-old southern woman who called *everyone* "honey" or "hon."  We got some mileage out of that one.

Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2013 08:01 AM (53z96)

And if you like that plan, I'm sure you can keep it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 27, 2013 07:56 AM (da5Wo)

I'll agree that everybody was shocked by her behavior and nobody saw it coming.  However one person's efforts to keep himself from being killed has now had his life turned into a Kafkaesque nightmare which will probably only be relieved when he takes his last breath.  My sympathy supply is tapped out for anybody else in this disaster.

Posted by: Molly K. at March 27, 2013 08:08 AM (HiU6Y)

I'm trying very hard to not think horrible things about you.

I'm trying very hard to not think horrible things about you.

The new ACH stipulates what will be covered and how much so your plan is gong away.

Wonderful. Just wonderful. BC I do have a good thing right now and feel sorry for those who have to pay out the nose for basic coverage. I do know that having been there 17 years lowers my cost quite a bit

How much does your employer pay in addition to what you pay?

I would have to look but I'm pretty sure it's in the area of around $400. In fact it's time for me to go there right now. You have me curious so I will do some digging.

http://tinyurl.com/bvlqrx3

Posted by: Molly K. at March 27, 2013 08:13 AM (HiU6Y)

I pay entirely out of pocket. Family of four. Medical only, no dental, no vision. Last year my monthly premium went from $1250 to $1500, this year it went from $1500 to $1700.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 08:18 AM (sbV1u)

Good morning Sergeant at Arms! I'm actually in a good mood so far today. This is the latest into the morning I've gotten without the shit hitting the fan in last 8 days.

"8Government and liberal college scientists say OK earthquake caused by pumping waste water underground. I throw the bullshit flag"

But sequestering CO2 into the ground would be safe. Right. I got it.

Liberalism is a mental disorder. Hold two opposing ideas in teh head at the same time.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 08:20 AM (sbV1u)

Wait a sec, you're paying $5k a month for health insurance???

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 08:21 AM (sbV1u)

Yeah, cause we didn't build that. Fuck, now my bp is rising.

Stress level? Buahahaha. I got here at 6am yesterday morning, left at 445pm and took work home with me. Spent about an hour working at home.

One kinda cool thing, I got to show the fam exactly what it is I do for a living. (At least in part.) The elder kiddo always asks. I showed the wife what I was doing (it was actually a moderately sized and very simple project) and her response "The fuck?? Better you than me."

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 08:24 AM (sbV1u)

*hands over thermos full of coffee*

No worries. Lol.

Posted by: Truman North at March 27, 2013 08:21 AM (I2LwF)

After the November vote, I contacted the state party asking them what they were going to do about challenging some of the Cleveland wards that were 100% for the JEF.  I pointed out that I was aware that they would be overwhelmingly for the JEF but no opposing votes was impossible for me to believe; that at least one neighborhood person who loved to be a contrarian or somebody who made a mistake in voting is bound to happen.  They said that unless I had specific knowledge about fraud they weren't doing a fucking thing.  I've pretty much given up on the party after that.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 08:28 AM (sbV1u)

I'd prefer you not. I mean, who the fuck would head up the Artillery Division?

"Some of these folks have very high catastrophic plans that don't pay for anything unless you get hit by a bus," she said. "They're really mortgage protection, not health insurance."

Insurance. Look it up, scrunt!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 08:31 AM (sbV1u)

Really? You think I ca......oh. Oh, I see what you did there. That's hurtful.

Posted by: Jean at March 27, 2013 08:37 AM (EYbqR)

I hate to do it, but I must. That comes up to $1970.

But I get your point, which is the same as mine....."FUCK ME"

Posted by: Truman North at March 27, 2013 08:39 AM (I2LwF)

I can understand the desire not to look like the the donk fuckheads in 2004 that, when they lost Ohio went all ZOMGWTFBBQ!!11!! and started screaming about eeeeeeeeeeeeeevil Diebold machines.  I'd take a self-mandated dirt nap before I'd ever do that.  But I'm talking about specific precincts that vote in a way that runs contrary to any previous experience with somewhat large groups of people.

Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2013 06:51 AM (53z96)

I love how they say it was "probably" caused by it. Just like a blizzard was probably caused by global warming. they just make stuff up to promote the agenda

You're giggling, Mary, but this is actually the serious, no-bulbs hitting position of the cobloggers here.



Vote fraud is a myth. That is actually what they are thing to tell us.

Posted by: Truman North at March 27, 2013 08:21 AM (I2LwF)

Giggling so I don't scream, Truman.  The consistent, repeated blowing off of chances to nail the Dems by the GOP never ceases to astonish me, but it only feeds my conviction that they aren't interested in governing so much as in plundering.

As a thought experiment - replace Boehner and McConnell with Ace and you.  Replace just about the entire GOP House and Senate with cob-loggers and commenters here.  Does anyone doubt that we could slice the hammer so hard that every time JEF farted, we'd have him up on impeachment charges?  What they hell are we paying these clowns for if not to actually be an opposition party?

Fuckit.  I need another cup of tea.  And some bacon.  Lots of greasy, fatty bacon.

I'd prefer you not. I mean, who the fuck would head up the Artillery Division? Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 27, 2013 08:29 AM (da5Wo)

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 08:31 AM (sbV1u)

There's always a place for you in the cavalry, Sean.

Posted by: Molly K. at March 27, 2013 08:08 AM (HiU6Y)

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Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2013 08:44 AM (1iC71)

I think one or two countries in South America do; including Brazil it is considering it.  At least that's what I saw on some MFM entertainment show posing as the news, so it might be total garbage as far as being factual.

The White House is telling Sens. Paul, Cruz, and Lee not to filibuster gun control legislation because it's unwelcoming to the families of kids killed by gun violence. Um, okay?

I say this as a person who generally likes children   and wouldn't wish any harm to    befall    them,   and who certainly doesn't want any family to feel the pain of losing a child for any reason.

But that said, fuck the children.   This isn't about them.     For every child killed   or wounded by gun violence, how many are there who were saved    from harm   because someone used a gun properly?   You can't count that number, because those are the statistics that don't make it into the news because they aren't accompanied by pictures of bloody children and wailing mothers.  

This isn't about protecting children, or women,   or families, or any other bullshit the regressives try to peddle.   This is about power and control and an attempt to    work   around    and effectively neuter the second amendment,   because   anti-gun   nanny staters don't have the balls to try for an actual repeal.        If you stitched their scrotums together, you wouldn't have enough    ball    sac to hold    half a Sweet-Tart.   

Next time the Dimmies   accuse Repubbies of    wanting to "slash" the budget, we should protest   that their rhetoric is unwelcoming to the families of   victims of   knife violence.    Next time the Dimmies accuse Repubbies of wanting to "kill grandma," we should say their rhetoric is unwelcoming to the    families    of   victims of elder abuse.      Next time the Dimmies accuse Repubbies of wanting to "starve the poor," we should say their rhetoric is unwelcoming to the families of homeless people.     And next time some fuckhead, sacless Dimmie accuses a Repubbie of encouraging a virtual "lynch mob" against a particular special interest group, we should     say   that their rhetoric is unwelcoming to the families of dead people who were    genuinely lynched during the Civil Rights Era, and    who,   btw, were lynched by fucking DEMOCRATS.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2013 08:44 AM (1iC71)

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About 1/2 of W. Europe, Canada, South Africa, Argentina, some Brazilian states.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2013 08:57 AM (no95k)

The UK government robbed Whittle on his invention , did they say that on the show?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2013 09:06 AM (no95k)

Otherwise they're liable to turn fascist   on you.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 27, 2013 08:59 AM (4df7R)

That was pure poetry. Bravo!

Oh btw MWR, do you request your union's political contributions to be refunded to you? The brief two week period during which requests must be submitted will be soon upon us.

280 Truman North

Stop with the BS that the Republicans lost becasue of fraud. Republicans lost becasuse a majority of voters hate your Party. The GOP spent years demonizing Hispanics, Gays, Single Women and young people. Now the chickens have come to roost and you can't deal with the Frankenstien you created.

Try winning elections on ideas, not on fear and be more inclusive.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:17 AM (udRDY)

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So you're debunking one myth by perpetuating another myth. Idiot says what?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 27, 2013 09:10 AM (SO2Q

It comes via UPS, along with a piece of Marco Rubio's trash lovingly. . .uhh. . .laminated by the Head Ewok.

321 Yoshi, Aggrieved

Too many Republicans are in denial that the American people reject them. They invent conspiracy theories to justify the 2012 loss.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:17 AM (udRDY)

Coming from the party that created, "ZOMG!  The Rethuglicans are gonna put y'alls back in chains!" and "Romney wants to spotweld your lady parts shut!" you've got balls to slam us about "fear."

Now get back down to the basement, fuckstick.  Your aunt's suppurating vulvar boils won't drain themselves.

Posted by: mugiwara at March 27, 2013 09:13 AM (W7ffl)

Here in NH we actually have the opportunity to tell our purple-shirted shock troops that we don't want them using our dues for political purposes.   Now, I'm sure they do it anyway,   because all unions are criminal organizations IMO.  But you have no idea how hard or fast I checked that box when I had to.  Like a Moron on Kate Upton, that's how hard and fast I hit that.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:23 AM (udRDY)

Says the dipshit mouthbreather perpetuating more conspiracy theories.

What a tool.

Is this Reality Jerk?

329 AuthorLMendez

Democrats maybe unpopular, but Republicans are despised. The Party's hatred and looking down on segments of the voting public has bit them in the ass.

Bachmann vindicated in Tardisil flap?

http://bit.ly/10dJaKY

344 AuthorLMendez

That is an utter and complete lie.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2013 09:24 AM (VkF8y)

Sanford hasn't "won" yet.  Unlike MO, SC doesn't allow a winner with less than 50% of the vote.  There will be a Republican run-off coming up on Apr 2.

In any case I doubt in Rove had anything to do with any of these campaigns.

Posted by: Jean at March 27, 2013 09:26 AM (bR2AR)

Wow, there's some grade A blame the victim for her asshole husband chasing cooter all across the globe.  Are they transplanted Kennedy fans?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 27, 2013 08:53 AM (mw4uh)

Good argument, but what I don't understand is why an international market for catastrophic health insurance hasn't developed to get around the "benefits-based" requirements of state laws.  Are hospitals and doctors forbidden from accepting payment from such entities?

338  Mary Poppins'

Republicans have demonized Blacks, Hispanics, Single Mothers and young people for the last 20 years. Deny it all you want but it is the truth.

Aren't there a ton of laws on age discrimination? Didn't the dems have countless lawsuits on this stuff?

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Life insurance also gets more expensive. Makes perfect sense, higher risk = higher premiums

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:28 AM (udRDY)

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Totally. That's why the GOP won the House. Dude, you're beyond an imbecile.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 27, 2013 09:26 AM (4df7R)

That's nice, they do their damndest to fuck us here in NY. Are you sure the locals aren't kicking any up to the national level union? I have to file the request with both, and I get a check back from both, the AFSCME one is always larger.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:31 AM (udRDY)

We want to put y'all back in CHAINS!!!!!!!

Man I knew Sibelius was stupid, but until I read that Yahoo article I didn't realize exactly how stupid she was.

I could do a better job in HHS than that moron.  "It's not health insurance it's Mortgage insurance"

Well no shit Sherlock, and for many people it works perfectly fine.  (And where it doesn't work you usually have a problem of people not planning properly.  Sadly, the progs are going to use this to push even harder for an elimination of high deductible plans, which is exactly what we need right now.)

I'd be curious to see a few things about that report though (or followups on it).

1) What happens if a state doesn't expand Medicaid

2) What is projected to happen to any employer based insurance that remains around

3) What caused the 3 states to go down.

I'm intrigued by 3 mostly.  There are about 3-4 other studies I've read which seem to preclude the idea that an increase in the insurance pool could decrease the per capita payouts, no matter how you slice it. Yet 3 states are projected to go down.

As for why you can't bring per capita expenditures down, the answer to that is as always Friedman's "The 4 ways you spend money" combined with a few other psychological quirks.

If I have insurance, I'm going to start utilizing medicine more than if I don't have it, even if I'm not sick.  Insured people use the ER at a higher rate than the uninsured for less urgent conditions (because it's $100 copay not a potentially $10,000 bill.)  Insured people or more likely to take pharmaceuticals, etc.

Now we can argue back and forth whether these are good or bad things (and for certain things there's no clear cut answer) and how to change it where it needs to be changed, but what we can't argue about is whether it's going to be cheaper.  It won't.  Full stop.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 27, 2013 09:30 AM (UypUQ)

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I think the reason is people would be reluctant to buy insurance from a non-regulated, foreign company. If they don't pay, you have no recourse in US courts.

Are not any of you Conservatives angry that Fox News, Talk Radio and Blogs lied to you about the 2012 election? They told you Romney had this won and to not believe the polls. People who tried to warn you the polls were accurate, were silenced.

Are you not tired of the Conservative Establishment lying to you?

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:35 AM (udRDY)

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Your concern is duly noted.

362Like a Moron on Kate Upton,

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So you got the form blind stinking drunk and then tied it up, and finished with it in 35 seconds followe by weeping?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 27, 2013 09:34 AM (mw4uh)

I'm also fairly certain that they couldn't sell insurance on the up and up in most states, seeing as it's still be classified as "insurance."

373  AuthorLMendez

I am a Libertarian, not a Conservative. I live in the reality based universe and not a bubble created by Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and blogs.

If you want to believe your own propaganda go ahead. When Hillary crushed you in 2016, maybe you will wake up.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:35 AM (udRDY)

Why by golly, you're right!! We've been fooled all along and we're so grateful for straightening us out. Gosh you're just so smarts. Now trot on back to Think Progress

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 27, 2013 08:05 AM (hO8IJ)

What's the penalty to those companies that break this law?

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:37 AM (udRDY)

________________

And let me guess you've voted Republican for the past 40 years but in 2012 you switched. Am I close?

364  Mr. Moo Moo

Republicans lost 8 seats in the house. They were saved by redistricting.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:37 AM (udRDY)

2016 is past tense dear boy? Your English is as bad as your politics. And why would a Libertarian be gleeful of Hilldabeast crushing us?

Republicans have demonized Blacks, Hispanics, Single
Mothers and young people for the last 20 years. Deny it all you want
but it is the truth.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:31 AM (udRDY)

"When George Bush was elected, it was like my brother was lynched all over again!"

Go back to bed, little child.  Grown-ups are talking.

395 Mr. Moo Moo

I switched in 2011 when it became clear the Tea party, which was about fiscal responsibility was hijacked by Socons and Bigots.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:39 AM (udRDY)

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Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:41 AM (udRDY).

Alex, I'd like cliches for $500

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:41 AM (udRDY)

_____________________

So you're a libertarian that voted for the guy who increased spending by 5 trillion.

1st rule of lying....make the lie somewhat believable

406 Mary Poppins

When you get your butts kicked by Hillary in 2016, what will your excuse be then?

I switched in 2011 when it became clear the Tea party, which was about fiscal responsibility was hijacked by Socons and Bigots.

That's gold, Jerry!  Comedy GOLD!

419  Mr. Moo Moo

I voted for Gary Johnson.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:43 AM (udRDY)

Is she going to be the Libertarian candidate? Is she going to run on a platform of fiscal responsibility or silly leftist emotional non issues?

I hope some type of High Deductible plan remains in existence.  The wife and I are seriously discussing moving to one.  If our health insurance premiums go up by much more we'll be priced out.

We stayed out of them thusfar because while we were on different plans and my insurance was paid for by my job the CDHD plans really didn't make much sense the cost wasn't much lower and even with the medical account contributions the effective deductible (the gap between the medical account and the deductible) was more or less equivalent to the regular plans.

Plus if you're in that child-bearing period of your life it just seems not bright to choose like that.

But cost drives.

She's got some friends at work who are on it even some who have kids, so we plan on asking them how the math shakes out (as it were.)

406 Mary Poppins
When you get your butts kicked by Hillary in 2016, what will your excuse be then?

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched, little one.

And if Cankles does win?  I'll say the same thing I said the day after your Indonesian Idiot won:  "Is this what you want?  Fine with me.  Choke on it good and hard."

420 Blacksheep

I do not watch MSNBC, which is Marxist propaganda. The problem with Conservatives is that you are so one dimensional. You think if someone opposes you, they must be on the Left. Has it ever occured to you, that there are others on the Right who despise both the Marxists and Conservatives?

440 AuthorLMendez

Listen oldman I rather vote for a party that gets 1% of the vote that believes in economic and personal freedom for all Americans regardless of race than a party based on racial resentment and hate.

General Petraeus, just go the fuck away--and stay there. 

447 AuthorLMendez

I would call you a bigot to your face. What are you goping to do, hit me with your wlaking cane old man?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at March 27, 2013 09:42 AM (VtjlW)

30 seconds? That seems optimistic.

Posted by: The Generic, Award Winning Moron at March 27, 2013 09:44 AM (+I8Mq)

I saw her on the idiot box recently and she looked *really* bad, just twitching away and making these little hungry-cat mewing sounds.  I don't think I heard anything like a complete sentence or even a comprehensible fragment of one.

453  Snarky the Bear

Hillary is so thorougly going to destroy this evil incarnation of the Republican Party that I am going to sit back and laugh. The GOP will be so decimated that it will allow Libertarians and Fiscons to take over the Party. We will give the Socons and Bigots the boot and create a Center-Right Party that is inclusive and fights for all Americans.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 09:52 AM (sbV1u)

Dude, electricity is expensive. Here, try this rubber hose as a behavior modifyer.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 09:52 AM (LRFds)

Yeah it really does; thanks for pointing that out.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:50 AM (udRDY)

Well you can't argue with logic or spelling like that

466Guy Mohawk

Republicans have used Blacks and Hispanics as boogeymen to scare White voters into voting for them. So spare me your concern troll for Blacks.

Democrats treat Blacks like slaves and Republicans use them as a boogeyman. Both parties are disgusting.

Hillary is so thorougly going to destroy this evil incarnation of the Republican Party that I am going to sit back and laugh. The GOP will be so decimated that it will allow Libertarians and Fiscons to take over the Party. We will give the Socons and Bigots the boot and create a Center-Right Party that is inclusive and fights for all Americans.

Fine with me.  I'm not a Republican.

Now fess up - you're Mary Cloggenstein's SPED little brother, aren't you?

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:53 AM (udRDY)

Decimate. We're going to lose one out of ten? Funny how the Libertarian is creaming his panties over Hillary

464 AuthorLMendez

Yes you did blow my mind and I apologize for my nastiness towards you. My Serb temper gets the better of me. My wife is Mexican and I grew up in a mostly Hispanic area. I love the Hispanic culture and people.

Let me ask you, how can you vote for the Republican party when many of its members would throw you in a death camp if they coul? Do you not see the hate directed towards your cultural group on Conservative blogs?

Again I apologize for my nastiness.

Posted by: Typical In-Need-of-Meds Leftard at March 27, 2013 10:00 AM (sbV1u)

27%?!?!?!?! Pardon me while I go jerk off.

497  GR at March

The Tea Party was originally a Fiscon-Libertarian movement than the Socons/Bigots hijacked. The true Tea Partiers will stay in the new GOP after Hillary takes out the trash.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 10:01 AM (TVbdM)

Damn. How did he know about our Mexican death camps? All right who told him? It was supposed to be our BIG secret

::::Let me ask you, how can you vote for the Republican party when many of its members would throw you in a death camp if they coul?::::

Because he'll be on the Protected Rolls while you and yours will be  on the pointy side of the barbed wire fence, fucker.

509  sven10077

Mexico was not built on Immigration, America was. So spare me the starwman. I have seen your comments and you hate Hispanics. Luckily, people like you are dying off and will be relics in the enxt 10 years.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 10:01 AM (TVbdM)

There we go. Confirmation of Hector.

Hey Hector, just a heads up, no matter what she says, getting ass fucked by the trashman every week is not a Mexican cultural eccentricity.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 10:04 AM (TVbdM)

That might come as news to the Spaniards. Or maybe the native population just started speaking Spanish on its own. And do you know who we hate more than any other racial or ethnic group? Who we really can't stand? Serbs

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 10:04 AM (TVbdM)

--So that's why every Mexican has Amerind surnames, right?

My fantasy headline of the day:  "MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell dies of self-inflicted gunshot wound.  Family reports history of chronic depression."  Family members say they didn't know he owned a gun.   

::::That might come as news to the Spaniards. Or maybe the native population just started speaking Spanish on its own. And do you know who we hate more than any other racial or ethnic group? Who we really can't stand? Serbs:::

I work with a few Croatians, and they have some choice things to say about Serbs.

Incidentally, who was it in the former Yugoslavia  that was committing genocide against Croatians and Albanians?  Republicans?  No, that wasn't it. 

Oh, yes - that's right.  SERBS.

Project much,  you mass-murdering cock enthusiast?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 27, 2013 10:10 AM (yAor6)

I wish you wouldn't be so nice to him

514  AuthorLMendez

I apologized and you tell me to fuck off. Did your mother not raise you with manners? Look I am sorry I acted like an ass towards you.

"I see no hate for Hispanics. I have my disagreements on the tone we use "

That tone is based on hate and fear. If they did not hate your people, the Republicans would not use hateful tone. I have seen people on this blog and others call for throwing Hispanics in camps and sterilizing them. Ann Coulter insults Hispanics routinely and she is a Conservative hero.

Read up on the rhetoric the Nazis used on Jews and Slavs. Compare it to how Republicans talk about Hispanics. They do not just hate illegals, they hate all Hispanics. But do not worry, when Libertarians and Fiscons take over the GOP, Hispanics like all Americans will be welcomed and treated with respect.

Tell us about how you proposed to your Mexican wife, Get with Reality.

Was it  in a romantic  spot?  Did you get down on one knee and hold out the ring you cut from the finger  of a dead Croat that you murdered?

550  logprof

My people did the west a favor by fighting Al Qaeda, but your Slavophobia led you to help the Muslims. Then they rammed planes into American building on 9/11.

Nice friends you made!

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 10:11 AM (TVbdM)

--Or that Serbs used against Bosniaks.

564 : Empire of Jeff

No I proposed over the body of a dead Al Qaeda terrorist.

570 logprof

The Bosniaks who were allied with Al Qaeda. Nice friends you got there. How are the Twin Towers nowadays?

You Muslim lovers make me laugh. You are such suckers.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 10:14 AM (TVbdM)

--Bosniaks are ethnically Slavs as well.  So because we never know when another 9/11 may occur, we should give monsters like Milosevic and Karadzic just what they want?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 27, 2013 10:10 AM (CJjw5)

And lit the fuse that started the First World War. At the time an English paper wrote, "If it were physically possible for Serbia to be towed out to sea and sunk there, the air of Europe would at once seem cleaner"

:::"I have seen people on this blog and others call for throwing Hispanics in camps and sterilizing them.":::

I've seen mass graves in Serbia  filled with dead Kosovo Albanians.

Curious,  all this hypothetical talk of Republican death camps.  Perhaps before pointing out the imaginary death camp in your neighbor's eye, you might attend to the mass grave of murdered Albanians in thine own, bitch.

578 : Empire of Jeff

Dead Muslim terorists. Hey you love Al Qaeda so much, go join them in Syria!

576logprof

Bosniaks sold their souls to Islam. They collaborated with Al Qaeda and got what they desrved.

585  naturalfake

Croats were not innocent. Read up on what they did in WWII and get back to me.

 Empire of Jeff
No I proposed over the body of a dead Al Qaeda terrorist.<<<

Thank you for your honesty.  I applaud you for your thriftiness,  as well - new diamond rings are terribly expensive.  Much cheaper to borrow a  pair of bolt cutters from your buddy and lop your victim's ring finger off, as  well.

This is just a minor quibble,  but would that mean your wife is wearing a "conflict diamond"?

577 TheQuietMan

I am glad you are an admitted Al Qaeda supporter.

593 : Empire of Jeff

You hate Mexicans and I hate Muslims. Who attacked us on 9/11?

Go suck Al Qaeda and Saudi Arabia's cock. You Conservatives are Muslim lackies.

600  logprof

We fought Al Qaeda and then they rammed planes into the Twin Towers. Nice people you support. I bet you are itching to help them in Syria as well.

How do you sleep at night knowing you are a traitor and a Muslim appeaser?

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 10:21 AM (TVbdM)

Pointing out that Serbia was behind the killing of Archduke Franz Ferdinand which set off WWI is supporting Al Queda? Who knew?

595 Thorvald

My family is from Banja Luka in the free part of Bosnia. I am proud my people killed Muslim terrorists.

604  Thorvald

I have no problems with Croats, they are my brothers. I feel it was a mistake we fought each other. Serbs and Croats should of united and sent the Bosniak traitors along with their Al Qaeda terror buddies into hell.

607 Guy Mohawk

You are the one Serb bashing and expressing support for Al Qaeda.

I don't hate Mexicans.  Where did you get that idea, amigo?

And I suppose the Croats and Bosnians you murdered were all Al Qaeda as well.

I guess it doesn't matter, because CROATIA  WHOOPED THAT ASS, SON.  Nothing worse than being a mass murderer.  Except  for being an  ineffectual mass murderer.

Suck  on your absolute  failure as both an individual  and a member of a murderous cocksucking ethnic group.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 27, 2013 10:25 AM (1Jaio)

--It's the same logic that concludes that being against amnesty means you hate Blacks and are a Socon.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 10:24 AM (TVbdM) ::::

I have a machine on my nightstand that simulates the sound  of the ocean.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 10:24 AM (TVbdM)

--WTF logic is that?  Russia sold nuclear tech to Iran.  So you support Achmedinejad then?

:::I've decided to censor "Get with Reality" JUST LIKE CHARLES JOHNSON.*::::

If I buy you a scrunchie  from your Amazon  store to  hold back your ponytail, will you still get credit for it? 

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 10:34 AM (TVbdM)

--It's your boy Barky going berserk arming terrorists right now.  Let's not pretend that shit has popular support in the USA.

How about apologizing for the Serbs, Serb terrorists, and Russians precipitating World War I?

Posted by: ace at March 27, 2013 10:29 AM (LCRYB)

You mean we can't hector Hector any more?

People like "Get with Reality" always demand the same thing, for us to abandon all our lifelong held principles in order to secure political success. Let me tell you something sonny, there is more to life than winning elections. Obama, Hillary, et al may indeed continue the left's march through this nation's insitutions and culture for some time but their victories will be pyrrhic, tearing apart the very fabric of the society they seek to transform. You don't like hearing criticism of the young, illegal immigration, the militant gay movement, etc? Too bad. Get with reality.

613  logprof

Obama is not my boy. Its your party supporting him in arning Islamic terrorists.

Posted by: Get with Reality at March 27, 2013 09:35 AM (udRDY)

I'm  tired  of  that  greasy  old  whore  you  call  mom  peddling  her  disease  ass  in  my  town.

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 27, 2013 10:41 AM (MhA4j)

--I'm not sure what your point is.  Yes, I know that the ancient Macedonians like Phillip were Hellenic peoples, and that the modern Macedonians are Slavs.  I was merely making the point that from my experiences over there that Macedonia is just a more attractive country and people than Serbia.