March 08, 2013
— Gabriel Malor Happy Friday.
Sens. Paul and McCain inadvertently shared an unplanned, post-rebuke elevator ride yesterday. Awkward.
Prisoner who was put in solitary confinement for two years after being arrested for a DWI wins $15.5 million lawsuit. A nightmare story.
In part to deal with unemployed law grads, law schools are opening firms of their own.
Phyllis Schlafly is not happy about recent Republican support for gay marriage: "'We expect all Republican officials to uphold the Platform,' she wrote in a letter to RNC Chairman Reince Preibus. 'The endorsement of same-sex marriage is not acceptable.' . . . She also confirmed that she received a 'very courteous' reply to her letter from Preibus, but that the chairman did not commit one way or the other."
At the moment, there are only three Illinois Republicans who were elected in state-wide races: Sen. Mark Kirk, Comptroller Judy Baar Topinka, and State Treasurer Dan Rutherford. Kirk and Topinka are in favor of retaining Illinois GOP Chairman Pat Brady in the face of a social conservative push to oust him tomorrow for supporting gay marriage. Rutherford has been mum on the Brady question, but, notably, Rutherford was the only GOP vote for civil unions back when he was a state senator. Ousting Brady for holding the same position on marriage as the last GOP vice president is unlikely to make it easier for Republicans to get elected in Illinois.
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Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 08, 2013 02:52 AM (81ahw)
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Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2013 02:55 AM (d0Dmj)
Brady has been a phenomenally effective party chairman, raising millions and taking the IL GOP from debt to solidly in the black after years of mismanagement (not unlike the RNC, actually, which Priebus managed to turn around after the Steele years). If we have any hope of winning more elections in IL, we need more chairmen like Brady.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 08, 2013 02:57 AM (jZUEZ)
Posted by: buzzion at March 08, 2013 02:57 AM (GULKT)
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Posted by: sven10077 at March 08, 2013 02:58 AM (LRFds)
Good morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes. It was a pretty awful drive in for me, so I hope the rest of you suffering through this storm either make it to work OK or stay home snug in bed.
If you’ve read my book, The Director’s Cut: A Theda Bara Mystery (and if not, why not?), you’ll know that I’m a big fan of the silent actress, who shot to instant fame in 1915 with her portrayal of an evil, coldhearted vamp in A Fool There Was. Today’s story isn’t about her, strictly, though – it’s about her husband, the director Charles Brabin.
Bara and Brabin married in 1921, after her failed stage comeback in the dreadful play The Blue Flame. By most accounts, they had a very happy marriage. One visitor to their house recalled seeing a birthday card on the mantelpiece from Theda to Charles that read 'To my darling Mouchy-Mou - from your Wiffle Tree,' and film historian DeWitt Bodeen noted, according to Theda's biographer Eve Golden, that Charles' devotion to Theda was just as "seventeenish."
But there was at least one person who found Brabin's matrimonial devotion to be a sham – writer Frederica Sagor Maas, who told the following tale in her memoir The Shocking Miss Pilgrim:
Charles Brabin was an erstwhile Universal director now glad to serve as assistant to any director who would have him. But to Elsie Werner* he was the greatest, and they were carrying on a torrid affair. All she could talk about was Charles Brabin, how he adored her, how fascinating he found her – a woman of the world – how much they had in common – their interest and understanding of Proust. I "had to" meet him.
I met him. Several nights later, at seven o'clock, he came to dinner. He was a tall, spare man, very dapper, wearing a velour hat (jauntily askew) and carrying a gold-knobbed cane. A colorful kerchief was draped around his neck – I'm sure to hide the wrinkles. He was doused with feminine perfume – the same scent I used, and one which I never used afterward. He dyed his thinning hair red. I suspected, too, that he wore a corset. He was a man past sixty trying to look forty. Artificial all the way. A flatterer, a woman chaser, and not to be taken seriously. It was obvious he was trying to make a favorable impression on me, confirming my worst suspicions; he was not in love with Elsie.
After he left, my fluttery roommate asked excitedly, "What do you think? How do you like him? Isn't he wonderful?" I didn't have the heart to disillusion her. I knew she would find out sooner or later that her lover was a has-been whose chief claim to fame was being the husband of Theda Bara. . .
That was not the end of Charles Brabin. The next day, he came a-calling, wearing carefully selected sports clothes – natty grey tweed plus fours with a cashmere jacket, a Tyrolean hat with a wisp of a feather, white shoes, the gold-knobbed cane, and another scarf carefully tucked around his neck. He was a fast manipulator, wanting me to know he had not slept a wink for thinking of me. And he was sure, because he could feel the vibrations, that I returned the attraction.
"What about Elsie?" I asked him incredulously, knowing the line he had been feeding her. . .like the villain in a barroom melodrama, he laughed scornfully and would have twirled his mustache if he had had one.
"That silly goose!" was his reply. My hand reached out, made perfect contract with his cheek, and nearly knocked him off balance. I never told poor Elsie what had happened. I knew her well enough to know she would not have believed me. She wept for days when he did not return her calls. Exit Charles Brabin.
In other words, directors are all the same. Droit du seigneur is a nice thing, if you can get away with it.
ThatÂ’s it for me. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend, and IÂ’ll see you again with another story on Monday.
*a reader at Universal Studios.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 08, 2013 02:58 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 08, 2013 02:58 AM (81ahw)
Posted by: Old Dog at March 08, 2013 02:58 AM (tQYJH)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 08, 2013 02:59 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Baldy at March 08, 2013 02:59 AM (opS9C)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 08, 2013 02:59 AM (81ahw)
Posted by: sTevo at March 08, 2013 03:00 AM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Case at March 08, 2013 03:02 AM (QwurB)
http://tinyurl.com/c5rt8bb
I really recommend this article, as it has a detailed account of his strategy, a lot of which is repeatable by other candidates.
The best effect is that Paul changed Obama's perception by LIV's from "a guy who is cool and loves you" to "a would-be tyrant who wants the power to kill you."
Please go read this article.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 03:03 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Andy at March 08, 2013 03:05 AM (OZPoa)
Way back in the day, some of the "schools" that claimed to train people in the IT field did something similar. One of the largest of these schools, Staffmark, claimed a ridiculous success rate at finding graduates jobs. It turned out that 95% of the "graduates" either went to work for Staffmark as instructors in the very courses they had just completed or went to work for Staffmark's consulting company. The same held for almost all of these "schools."
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 08, 2013 03:06 AM (Gkhxf)
Somehow I doubt this Brady fellow has done anything of the sort in his illustrious career. But he said the soothing words Gabe wants to hear, so that makes him a champion, I guess.
For me though, I'll take Phyllis over all these Jonny-come-latelies.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2013 03:07 AM (BeSEI)
Er...you are aware that the social cons who want to oust Brady are the ones who called the meeting, right? Apparently, they have nothing better to do than worry about gay marriage. Brady's comments are months old at this point.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 08, 2013 03:07 AM (jZUEZ)
Posted by: buzzion at March 08, 2013 03:07 AM (GULKT)
Yes, she is now old, but she remains true to her convictions, which is something sorely lacking in much of the current crop of GOP.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 03:08 AM (GoIUi)
I may not climb whole hog onto the Rand Paul bandwagon, but I admire what he did.
And I think the Republican political landscape tilted, more than just a little bit the other day.
And if any of you old farts used to real Neptunuslex, it was a year ago on the fourth that he passed in a plane crash.
http://www.neptunuslex.com/
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2013 03:09 AM (iZP3p)
Too precious by half. It used to be that good fiscal stewardship was a prerequisite to electoral success. Now it's inconvenient to note it? Shameful.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 08, 2013 03:10 AM (jZUEZ)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 03:10 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Dr Foistus at March 08, 2013 03:11 AM (+kznc)
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 03:12 AM (53z96)
Posted by: OhioCoastie at March 08, 2013 03:12 AM (pKCuj)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at March 08, 2013 03:13 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Dr Foistus at March 08, 2013 03:13 AM (+kznc)
Have I said puck McShitty yet today? No, I didn't think so.
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 03:13 AM (53z96)
1. Pathetic and shameful attacks by McCain and Graham on the floor of the Senate.
2. Paul got an interview on Rush yesterday.
3. Paul was also interviewed on several networks, man of which tried to change the character of what he said or concentrate on stuff like not going to the bathroom.
4. He made Obama send him an answer.
I will be interested in seeing the polls in the next day or two. That filibuster broke through the MSM wall and reached LIV's.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 03:14 AM (GoIUi)
If there was any justice in this country MADD would have to pay this judgment. Instead the taxpayers take it in the ass again.
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 03:15 AM (53z96)
"Morons....*raises power ring* ASSEMBLE!!!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2013 03:15 AM (iZP3p)
Oh nooooes, MPPP! Doesn't Theo marry Toby? I just got to the last night at Falcetta's. 
Really enjoying it - almost done. (And just kidding about the spoiler.)
Posted by: Gem at March 08, 2013 03:16 AM (zw+pb)
Posted by: real joe at March 08, 2013 03:17 AM (PD2ad)
Will they do some pro-bono work like that DUI above
hahahahahhahaha
who am I kidding
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 03:17 AM (53z96)
Well, it's also awkward to have those two men in the same Senate, when you really think about it. McCain is a war hero whose father and grandfather both were senior admirals with a ship as their collective namesake. Paul is a space cadet whose father is a lunatic.
Benedict Arnold was a "war hero," too. As far as I'm concerned, McStain's Hero Card expired when he threw the election. That senile old fart should have a Hellfire missile shoved up his ass. And that "space cadet" certainly seems to care more about the Constitution than your precious war hero Mr Keating Five.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 08, 2013 03:18 AM (zF6Iw)
Not bad Miss Marple. Though I never like the idea of Senator for Presidential candidate idea, and he forgot the sissy senator from South Carolina joining the Arizona Senator. The overall substance is good though.
Posted by: buzzion at March 08, 2013 03:18 AM (GULKT)
Yes, she is now old, but she remains true to her convictions, which is something sorely lacking in much of the current crop of GOP.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 07:08 AM (GoIUi)
I know that she was really outspoken against that POS amendment but that was always gonna be a tough sell anyway. Amending the Constitution is not easy by design and I think there were a bunch of states that wanted no part of that garbage. And yes, the 70s were a horrible decade starting with Nixon and ending with Carter/
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 08, 2013 03:18 AM (uxP0x)
And much like I refuse to praise McCain for his father and grandfather's accomplishments, I am not going to denigrate Paul for his nut-case father, unless he proves to hold the same beliefs.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 03:18 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: fenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 03:18 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Gem at March 08, 2013 07:16 AM (zw+pb)
Thank you, Gem. I'm glad you like the book. If you'd leave a little review at Amazon, I'd appreciate it. And as far as Theo and Toby getting married - well, there's a surprise for you at the end of the book. . .
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 08, 2013 03:20 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor
Er... You are aware that we were supposed to be calling a truce on these social issues and concentrating on the needs of the country, right? As well as not chasing along behind obama when he fired up yet another distraction on social issues, right?
What happened to that? Oh yeah; you want this, so everyone else has to be dragged along for the ride.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 08, 2013 03:20 AM (PrDJQ)
Posted by: Andy at March 08, 2013 03:21 AM (OZPoa)
It's a long time until the primary. We will have to see what develops.
It would be good to see more Republicans using elements of his strategy.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 03:23 AM (GoIUi)
What an ass. The scowl and frown from McCain and his female assistant.
Much more civilized, the patience from Paul's expression.
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 08, 2013 03:24 AM (MhA4j)
Agreed!
Posted by: Elway at March 08, 2013 03:24 AM (0Enjw)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 03:24 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 07:18 AM (GoIUi)
Maybe the family insanity skips a generation.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 08, 2013 03:25 AM (uxP0x)
That shameful attack on Paul just enraged me, especially that stupid chart Graham had.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 03:25 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Andy at March 08, 2013 03:27 AM (OZPoa)
It's a long time until the primary. We will have to see what develops.
It would be good to see more Republicans using elements of his strategy.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 07:23 AM (GoIUi)
Well I definitely prefer picking a sitting governor from a red or purple state to anyone else currently.
But yeah Paul actually did something that got attention and knocked the administration back on its heels. That's something that's good and has been sorely lacking. The two shitheads that deserve to be primaried not being happy are proof of this. And honestly I'm glad that McCain and Graham do not approve because it exposes them as what they are.
Posted by: buzzion at March 08, 2013 03:27 AM (GULKT)
And as far as Theo and Toby getting married - well, there's a surprise for you at the end of the book. . .
Ooh. Now looking forward to the train commute this a.m.!
Have to go to work, but still wondering what happened with Vic and the assault rocker.
Posted by: Gem at March 08, 2013 03:27 AM (zw+pb)
1. It lit up Twitter and becake a trending topic.
2. Obamabots showed up on my daughter's Facebook page to argue that Obama SHOULD have the power to use the drones in the US. (That got my daughter incoherent with rage, and she was one I had to beg to vote for Romney.)
3. Many banks around here had it on their TV's in the lobby.
4. Paul was on all the networks being interviewed.
I want to see the polls in a day or two. Then we will know.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 03:28 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Dr.Eviler at March 08, 2013 03:29 AM (VtutD)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 07:23 AM (GoIUi)
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It would be good to see Republicans using ANY kind of strategy other than self immolation or standing around with their mouths hanging open waiting for the Democrat/MSM machine to convince every voting age idiot in America that they're an evil, greedy, corrupt, misogynistic patriarch.
Posted by: Nighthawk at March 08, 2013 03:29 AM (RSqz2)
Posted by: Captain at March 08, 2013 03:30 AM (pwTow)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 03:32 AM (g7q64)
http://tinyurl.com/c5rt8bb
This is an analysis of Paul's filibuster, and it is well worth reading. Hopefully some of the GOP in DC will read it as well.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 03:32 AM (GoIUi)
I guess "hero" ain't what it used to be.
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 07:27 AM (53z96)
I dislike McCain as much as the next guy and I wish he'd GO AWAY and take Graham with him....but this is uncalled for.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 08, 2013 03:32 AM (X6akg)
I tend to agree. Honorable? Sure. Hero? I always thought heroism was something you did, not something that happened to you.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 08, 2013 03:33 AM (OevbG)
The state (and the country) are going to hell in a handbasket, and the "leaders" of our party are having a fight about gay marriage? There are 3 dumbfuck farmers in Mattoon who care about the GOP stance on gay marriage. But, this is the subject bothering the party leaders.. Jesus H. Christ on a stick.. We deserve to keep losing Illinois.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 08, 2013 03:34 AM (UTq/I)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 08, 2013 03:35 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 08, 2013 03:35 AM (FsUAO)
>>>>>Er... You are aware that we were supposed to be calling a truce on these social issues and concentrating on the needs of the country, right? As well as not chasing along behind obama when he fired up yet another distraction on social issues, right?
What happened to that? Oh yeah; you want this, so everyone else has to be dragged along for the ride.>>>>
This^^^^^ so much this^^^
Posted by: melle1228 at March 08, 2013 03:36 AM (YBi1q)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 08, 2013 03:36 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Tami at March 08, 2013 07:32 AM (X6akg)
No, it is called for and has been for years. Just because he was shot down and went to POW camp doesn't make him a damn hero.
We had a bunch of pilots on my ship that endured the same damn thing and you never hear NOTHING about them.
Puck him
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 03:36 AM (53z96)
Worse than "nightmare" since he's been socially, emotionally and mentally damaged for life. It isn't as if being released is like waking up to realize it was just a dream.
Hell, the illegal aliens never get treated like that anywhere while awaiting deportation /aka early release stateside.
Needless to say, given fresh meat, thugs in position of authority went apeshit on their power trip of absolute cruelty, to see just how far they could go, "because I could" mentality. Certainly not to say New Mexico has the monopoly on such excessive abuses of power, or that the Democrats have the monopoly on such cruelty against humanity.
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 08, 2013 03:36 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 03:36 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 08, 2013 03:37 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at March 08, 2013 03:38 AM (qfMZe)
It hinges on an all-too-powerful federal government that sucks up all revenue like a black hole and leaves the people jobless and dependent on handouts from the political ruling class.
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 08, 2013 03:38 AM (8sCoq)
Rand picked his issue very carefully. He chose the hill he wanted his opponent to die on. Rand showed what happens when you wisely pick the right issue to defeat your opponent with
This is exactly correct. The man is showing me something.
Posted by: Beldar at March 08, 2013 03:38 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Bubba from County at March 08, 2013 03:39 AM (3VhRQ)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 08, 2013 03:40 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 08, 2013 03:40 AM (81ahw)
Posted by: Immediately back to lurking at March 08, 2013 03:41 AM (OwYtx)
Posted by: Low Info Voter at March 08, 2013 03:41 AM (Vgn84)
My comment was light, Andy. You gave the impression you have no idea who she is. Quoting Caddyshack aside, you got anything useful to say?
Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2013 03:42 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 08, 2013 03:42 AM (OevbG)
Posted by: JDTAY at March 08, 2013 03:42 AM (a0nis)
http://is.gd/zuUHAU
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 03:44 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 08, 2013 03:44 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Please... No Lemon Party movies, Hollywood. at March 08, 2013 03:45 AM (i7B17)
Whatever. That was then. This is now.
What a great guy "My Friends" McShame is in the Washingtonian back scratching circle working on behalf of global corporations that sponsor foreign developments at US taxpayer expense.
He is no friend of the US Constitution nor of working stiff Joe Q. Public taxpayers.
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 08, 2013 03:45 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Andy at March 08, 2013 03:45 AM (OZPoa)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 08, 2013 03:46 AM (FsUAO)
Caddyshack is part of the official AOS canon, I believe.
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 08, 2013 03:46 AM (8sCoq)
We had a bunch of pilots on my ship that endured the same damn thing and you never hear NOTHING about them.
Puck him
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 07:36 AM (53z96)
He was tortured....he was offered release and declined it to allow others to go free.
We hear about him because, unfortunately, he is a US Senator.
There are a lot of heroes from US wars that we hear nothing about. I'm not sure how that is relevant to this issue.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 08, 2013 03:48 AM (X6akg)
I refuse to entertain any suggestion of gay marriage until I am shown a Constitutional amendment which explicitly states that religious institutions will not be forced to marry gay couples, because I know that a certain segment of the gay community has just that object in mind.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 03:48 AM (GoIUi)
Shocking!!!!
Next up...
How expanding the size scope and reach of the federal government is really a conservative principle or how I stopped worrying and learned to love leviathan!
Posted by: General Woundwort at March 08, 2013 03:48 AM (RrD4h)
It's (Gay Marriage) ALL about Social Security retirement and Medicare insurance benefits. It's all about forcing companies to provide benefits to the spouses in same-sex relationships. It's all about money.
Posted by: Al at March 08, 2013 03:48 AM (V70Uh)
Posted by: toby928© presents at March 08, 2013 03:49 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 08, 2013 03:49 AM (l3vZN)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 03:49 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 08, 2013 03:50 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: akula51 at March 08, 2013 03:50 AM (Vgn84)
Not to mention the fact that he strapped himself into very dangerous vehicles many times, was shot off a ship, and flew that dangerous vehicle into the teeth of very tightly defended enemy positions who were trying their best to kill him, because his country asked him to.
I'm guessing his detractors don't have similar records.
Posted by: pep at March 08, 2013 03:50 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 08, 2013 03:51 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: teej at March 08, 2013 03:51 AM (M3APu)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 08, 2013 03:51 AM (uff2W)
Posted by: Bubba from County at March 08, 2013 07:39 AM (3VhRQ)
*******
That's easy to say if you know going in that the term would only be two years. But would you agree to an unspecified term of detention for 15.5 million bucks? 'Cause that's what the guy was looking at. Not knowing if or when it would end.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 08, 2013 03:51 AM (qqZuQ)
So, when conservatives preoccupy themselves with gay marriage, contorting themselves into different positions to satisfy the hectoring from MSNBC and the NYTimes, we are playing the game on THEIR field. There's no future in it.
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 08, 2013 03:52 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 08, 2013 03:52 AM (uxP0x)
I couldn't follow all of the filibuster, but did Paul come out for isolationism in it?
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 03:53 AM (GoIUi)
#6 -- marriage is the foundation for Western Civilization? Here all these years I thought it was nonsensical stuff like the theory of private property, regularised (and enforced) legal codes, yadda yadda.
Posted by: SFGoth at March 08, 2013 03:53 AM (Ig2l/)
Posted by: Al Czervik at March 08, 2013 03:53 AM (i7B17)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 07:49 AM
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His Capos Johnny Mac and Toothy Graham will knee cap any bitch that dis him.
Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at March 08, 2013 03:54 AM (+I8Mq)
#118
So we give in on gay marriage. The left will move on to some other distraction i.e., transgender rights, birth control (war on women).. That is the left strategy. When do we as the right stop giving into the left because we are afraid we are going to get painted as XYZ?
Posted by: melle1228 at March 08, 2013 03:54 AM (YBi1q)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 03:55 AM (g7q64)
That's fine, but Andy doesn't seem to know who Phyllis Schlafly is, and it appears he's getting a bit defensive about it.
Which is fine. Maybe now he'll look it up, in which case Caddyshack will have served a useful purpose once again.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2013 03:55 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 07:32 AM (GoIUi)
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A very thought-provoking article, thanks for the link MM.
Maybe some of the "new blood" in the GOP will learn the lessons the article discusses, but I'm afraid that too many of the Old Guard are satisfied to remain in the minority as long as the perks are still provided.
Posted by: Nighthawk at March 08, 2013 03:55 AM (RSqz2)
Not that I heard. Rush Limbaugh asked him point-blank if he was using this as a stalking horse for Luap Nor-style isolationism/pacifism and he said absolutely not, it's perfectly fine for the military to use drones overseas.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 08, 2013 03:56 AM (OevbG)
...same goes for Convention, and for Rule of Law.
As for individual rights, to be determined per State, which requires States Rights. The Federal Government conveniently erased those. Thank the idiotic citizenry segment who supported more erosion of constitutional integrity in order to "save" our government. Bill of Rights? Separation of Powers? Since the Patriot Act, not recognized by the majority of politicians and their cheerleaders. Spend hours splitting hairs. Get nowhere, and end up with a lousy hair cut.
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 08, 2013 03:56 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 08, 2013 03:57 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 08, 2013 03:57 AM (81ahw)
Posted by: blaster at March 08, 2013 03:57 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 03:57 AM (g7q64)
@104"....Constitutional amendment which explicitly states that religious institutions will not be forced to marry gay couples, because I know that a certain segment of the gay community has just that object in mind."
-Miss Marple
That is what they want. Anyone with half a brain can see it coming. I agree with you 100% Miss Marple.
Posted by: Case at March 08, 2013 03:58 AM (QwurB)
Posted by: Beefy Meatball at March 08, 2013 03:58 AM (i7B17)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 08, 2013 03:59 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 07:53 AM (GoIUi)
He did not. He came out for the Constitution, and against Presidents having too much power. He came out for you.
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 08, 2013 03:59 AM (8sCoq)
Isn't hypocrisy a wonderful thing!
Posted by: SFGoth at March 08, 2013 03:59 AM (Ig2l/)
Party platform should read: Smaller. less intrusive government. Period
Party platforms are a collection of gotta-have positions by one goofy group or another.. all compromises.. I'll let your "against gay marriage" plank in if you'll support my pro-coal plank. Fuck it.. that's why we lose elections.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 08, 2013 03:59 AM (UTq/I)
Posted by: Jackj at March 08, 2013 03:59 AM (z2Eab)
Posted by: Opus An Arcus at March 08, 2013 04:01 AM (NBk4c)
Schlafly put herself through law school, raised her children, and almost single-handedly took on the leftist feminists... and won.
You are a fool, and I suspect it is your intention to remain a fool your whole life.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2013 04:01 AM (BeSEI)
I'd offer one amendment. Free pudding.
Posted by: pep at March 08, 2013 04:01 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: toby928© presents at March 08, 2013 04:02 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: blaster at March 08, 2013 04:02 AM (/1U3u)
>Isn't hypocrisy a wonderful thing!
How is she a hypocrit? She had and raised six children within a marriage; one who came out as gay. No one said you have to be chained to a stove to be traditional. There is a different between being traditional and being sexist. Learn the difference.
Posted by: melle1228 at March 08, 2013 04:03 AM (YBi1q)
Our party better get it's shit together. Do you want some government worker asshole telling you who to marry.
Who cares just stop seizing my assets.
Posted by: tony redenzo at March 08, 2013 04:03 AM (TtA6H)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 08, 2013 04:03 AM (OevbG)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 08, 2013 04:03 AM (CXoSL)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:04 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Jack
..........
Oh really? HE lost them?
The rewriting of all the district boundaries by the Chicago mob in Springfield had nothing to do with that, eh?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 08, 2013 04:04 AM (UTq/I)
Posted by: real joe at March 08, 2013 04:04 AM (PD2ad)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 08, 2013 04:04 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Emdoc at March 08, 2013 04:05 AM (DhR/C)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 04:05 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 08, 2013 04:05 AM (FsUAO)
And his performance yesterday tells me his political career needs to be over.
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 08, 2013 04:07 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Emdoc at March 08, 2013 04:07 AM (DhR/C)
Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at March 08, 2013 04:07 AM (qfMZe)
Oh no! Almost an inch of snow on the ground!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2013 04:08 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: real joe at March 08, 2013 04:09 AM (PD2ad)
Posted by: Andy at March 08, 2013 07:27 AM (OZPoa)
Fixed
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 08, 2013 04:09 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Al Czervik at March 08, 2013 04:09 AM (Jls4P)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 08, 2013 04:10 AM (feFL6)
Hmmmmm.
So I'm BANNED on my cellphone for some unknown reason. Squirrels get in the server again?
Posted by: Bigby's Crossed Fingers at March 08, 2013 04:10 AM (3ZtZW)
This is where Obama hurt himself badly with regard to OCare and contraception. When he offers assurances that religious objections will be respected, nobody believes him.
Posted by: pep at March 08, 2013 04:10 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Al Czervik at March 08, 2013 04:10 AM (Jls4P)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 04:11 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: toby928© presents at March 08, 2013 04:11 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: melle1228 at March 08, 2013 04:11 AM (YBi1q)
Posted by: Al Czervik at March 08, 2013 04:11 AM (Jls4P)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 08:11 AM (GoIUi)
Hahahahahahaha.......
Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 08, 2013 04:12 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: An Observation at March 08, 2013 04:12 AM (ylhEn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:12 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Al Czervik at March 08, 2013 04:12 AM (Jls4P)
Posted by: clemenza at March 08, 2013 04:12 AM (ZQNq7)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2013 04:12 AM (ipBC8)
Posted by: Opus An Arcus at March 08, 2013 04:12 AM (NBk4c)
Posted by: Emdoc at March 08, 2013 04:12 AM (DhR/C)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 08, 2013 04:13 AM (hO8IJ)
>>>He never gave up info about his fellow soldiers while being tortured.
Wrong. He said at the Convention that he was broken under torture.
Posted by: Bigby's Crossed Fingers at March 08, 2013 04:13 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Carl Spackler at March 08, 2013 04:13 AM (Jls4P)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 08, 2013 04:13 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:14 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 08, 2013 04:15 AM (vuIm8)
You know the gyms that have "women's only" times so the Muslimas can work out without men who don't own them present?
Have you noticed the "transgender women" don't ask to work out at those times?
That's when I'll take them seriously.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 08, 2013 04:15 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Carl Spackler at March 08, 2013 04:15 AM (Jls4P)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at March 08, 2013 04:16 AM (qFpRI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:16 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Fritz at March 08, 2013 04:17 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 04:17 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Andy at March 08, 2013 04:17 AM (OZPoa)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 08, 2013 04:18 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Carl Spackler at March 08, 2013 04:18 AM (Jls4P)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 08, 2013 04:18 AM (k8qQE)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 08, 2013 04:19 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2013 04:19 AM (ipBC8)
Posted by: clemenza at March 08, 2013 04:19 AM (ZQNq7)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 08, 2013 04:19 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Carl Spackler at March 08, 2013 04:19 AM (Jls4P)
I do not understand how someone didn't get that guy released or hospitalized. I support not only the financial award, but horsewhipping all people involved.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 04:20 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: clemenza at March 08, 2013 04:21 AM (ZQNq7)
Posted by: toby928© presents at March 08, 2013 04:21 AM (QupBk)
202 @Emdoc,
One of the main reasons he didn't make flag was that he was fuckin women he wasn't married to. It has always been a big deal in the military. See: Petraeus, Gen. David.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 08, 2013 08:19 AM (JDIKC)
Marital fidelity is admirable?
That's a Drone Strike.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 08, 2013 04:21 AM (da5Wo)
Hate group.
Any others h8ers want to mouth off and make the list?
Sure.
All your fathers were hamsters and your mothers smelt of elderberries!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 08, 2013 04:21 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 08, 2013 04:22 AM (BdP+C)
Posted by: Blacksheep at March 08, 2013 04:22 AM (bS6uW)
It seems that McCain's time as a POW was the anomaly. He is a sleazy cocksucker who stepped up once in his life.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2013 04:23 AM (GsoHv)
>>>Hey as a politician I hate McCain, but his Military Record is A OK with me, no questions asked, Period.
That's cool. Frankly, I think he learned that "My Friends" shit from his torturer. Its what the shitbag said to him every morning before the shit started, I'd bet. And he can't effectively fight commies ever since that Stockholm shit took hold.
Posted by: Bigby's Crossed Fingers at March 08, 2013 04:23 AM (3ZtZW)
Angry McCain ups ante, calls Paul, Cruz 'wacko birds'... http://drudge.tw/10ghqHz
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 08, 2013 04:23 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 08, 2013 04:23 AM (1V6Pv)
Have I mentioned that less than a generation ago, anyone who suggested gays settle down with one partner for life was a "homophobe"? 'Cause that's what stupid unenlightened breeders do, and gays are smarter and better than those losers...and brave enough to have relationships without a government stamp of approval. Now if you believe what the gays themselves preached 20 years ago, you're a "H8r."
Of course, back in those dark days, you were a racist if you believed all black people were too stupid and/or incompetent to be treated the same as white people. O_o And now that's the preferred attitude.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 08, 2013 04:23 AM (hO8IJ)
http://is.gd/W0JCN4
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 08:21 AM (53z96)
Boooooooo.
68 Charger is where it's at! (Yes, I own one. Dad bought a junker for my 18th bday and we spent about 3 years getting her fixed up.)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 08, 2013 04:24 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 04:24 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Blacksheep at March 08, 2013 04:24 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 08, 2013 08:22 AM (BdP+C)
Repression can be ugly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2013 04:24 AM (GsoHv)
Forgive me if I call him a hero."
Posted by: Andy at March 08, 2013 07:45 AM (OZPoa)
Not to diminish the courage he showed in refusing release, but he did break. Everyone broke. Everyone breaks. That was one of Admiral Stockdale's strongest points of leadership in the camps - helping the prisoners recover from the shame that they felt and keeping them from sliding into the depths of depression that would kill them.
Posted by: somebody else, not me at March 08, 2013 04:25 AM (nZvGM)
Is anyone else having trouble with the refresh on this thread? I don't know if it's my computer or the TRS-80 server this thing runs on.
Posted by: jwest at March 08, 2013 04:25 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Andy at March 08, 2013 04:25 AM (OZPoa)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 08, 2013 08:24 AM (da5Wo)
That was a Hemi though. I chose it because I once saw a guy do a burnout in front of the White Castle with one.
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 04:25 AM (53z96)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 04:25 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 08, 2013 04:26 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:26 AM (9Bj8R)
We particularly enjoyed the one where you said "Fuck the Constitution, judges should be allowed to make laws if it makes gay people happy."
No, this particular issue doesn't totally impair your ability to think logically.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 08, 2013 04:26 AM (hO8IJ)
McCain heroically resisted being used for propaganda and did so in the face of brutal torture. Because of his father he was offered to be released ahead of his place in line in prisoner exchange and refused. Think of that. You are being tortured to the point of crippling you for life but you refuse to jump the line ahead of your fellow prisoners.
And all that ignores his status a fighter pilot. Tip of the spear indeed.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 08, 2013 04:27 AM (WVMUQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 04:27 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:28 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:28 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: jwest at March 08, 2013 08:25 AM (u2a4R)
Yeah, several people have mentioned it this past week. Jumps all over the place before settling down to the most recent post. Seizure inducing.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 08, 2013 04:28 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: clemenza at March 08, 2013 04:28 AM (ZQNq7)
Posted by: Case at March 08, 2013 04:28 AM (QwurB)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 08, 2013 04:29 AM (1V6Pv)
Dear South Carolina and Arizona,
How about a fucking courtesy flush already?
Sincerely,
Your state-mates in the other stalls.
Posted by: JQP at March 08, 2013 04:29 AM (GVL0g)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 08, 2013 04:29 AM (JDIKC)
>>>>actually used to be in favor of civil unions but the behavior of the
activists has convinced me they won't be happy until my priest is forced
to marry them.
If the activists were upfront about that we could have a profitable conversation and come to an agreement somewheres. eg, religious freedom says NO, so here's your consolation prize, end of story.
I mean, shit, I'd be OK if it were like common-law recognition. But no, its gotta be DRAMA
Posted by: Bigby's Crossed Fingers at March 08, 2013 04:29 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 08, 2013 04:30 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 08, 2013 04:30 AM (tOkJB)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 08, 2013 04:30 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 08, 2013 08:27 AM (WVMUQ)
Ummmm....his ability as a pilot is not really what I would use as a laudable characteristic.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 08, 2013 04:30 AM (da5Wo)
McCain, Graham and the other RINO's need to see the light or just go the fuck home for good... they're part of the problem in DC
Posted by: Mjölnir, Banhammer from the gates of Hell at March 08, 2013 04:30 AM (Jls4P)
Posted by: Blacksheep at March 08, 2013 04:31 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 08, 2013 04:31 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 08, 2013 04:31 AM (OevbG)
Posted by: clemenza at March 08, 2013 04:31 AM (ZQNq7)
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 08, 2013 04:31 AM (jNNPU)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 08:26 AM (9Bj8R)
Just historical accuracy. McCain, Stockdale and others all wrote about this.
Posted by: somebody else, not me at March 08, 2013 04:32 AM (nZvGM)
Yeah, but sorry...McCain's war experience doesn't give him an Absolute Moral Authority card.
Was his experience horrific? Yeah, sure. Just as it was for many thousands of others (or was worse, and if you want to name names there's a big black wall in the middle of DC that does so). But that doesn't mean I'm going to give him a pass for his anti-Conservative stances.
I thank him for his service. The best way he can continue to serve America is to retire.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 08, 2013 04:32 AM (tVWQB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:32 AM (9Bj8R)
>>>After you've been shot out of the sky, tortured, and held in captivity for a few years get back to me and we'll talk
Come on, that's bullshit. I was referring to his captors and what happened to him. Uncalled for, dick.
Posted by: Bigby's Crossed Fingers at March 08, 2013 04:32 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 08, 2013 04:33 AM (FsUAO)
How bout both?
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6031/6367119835_1d73312c4e_z.jpg
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 08, 2013 04:34 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 08, 2013 04:34 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:35 AM (9Bj8R)
c'mon ya gotta be jackin' me
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 08, 2013 04:35 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 08, 2013 04:35 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: George Costanza at March 08, 2013 04:36 AM (IJHzz)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:36 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 08:32 AM (9Bj8R)
His planes seemed to spend an awful lot of time on fire. And I agree actually, his military record should have nothing to do with his political one.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 08, 2013 04:36 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 04:36 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 08, 2013 04:37 AM (WVMUQ)
Posted by: Fritz at March 08, 2013 04:37 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 08, 2013 04:37 AM (+I8Mq)
Or he can be an ex-hero.
His second career as a craven asshole is longer than my life. I think it counts.
Posted by: oblig. at March 08, 2013 04:37 AM (cePv8)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:38 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 08:35 AM (9Bj8R)
100% correct.
John McCain acted honorably during his time as a POW. He is a credit to his family, the US Navy and America.
But that behavior was an anomaly. In all other things, John McCain is a cocksucking piece of shit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2013 04:38 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 08, 2013 04:38 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Bigby's Crossed Fingers at March 08, 2013 04:38 AM (3ZtZW)
Bin Laden's son-in-law in New York jail. What an ugly ape. Will he be invited to take a White House tour and maybe lunch with Hussein Obama soon?
No, they've got to let the Jooos hack his e-mail first.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 08, 2013 04:38 AM (zF6Iw)
****
There are accounts that contradict that but they are covered up.
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 08, 2013 04:39 AM (+I8Mq)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 08, 2013 04:39 AM (PBm/l)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 08:35 AM
OK, but the reverse is also true...excusing McCain because he was tortured. I'm not saying the morons are doing it, but there is at least a whiff of it in some of McCain's mainstream defenders.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 08, 2013 04:39 AM (tVWQB)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 08, 2013 04:39 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 08:35 AM (9Bj8R)
Not to be overly argumentative, but I don't think he'd have a career as a politician but for his military experience. I can't think of a single campaign he's had that it hasn't been the center piece.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 08, 2013 04:39 AM (uxP0x)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 04:40 AM (g7q64)
"the same position on marriage as the last GOP vice president is unlikely to make it easier for Republicans to get elected in Illinois."
Hmmm... how many times did the ticket Cheney was on win their statewide race in Illinois?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 08, 2013 04:41 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 08, 2013 08:38 AM (zF6Iw)
Will the zionists hack his email, then make anti-zionist statements that he will claim were not his but he refuses to denounce because ZIONISTS?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 08, 2013 04:41 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 08, 2013 04:41 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 08, 2013 04:41 AM (TnEUC)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 08, 2013 04:41 AM (eHNxr)
What I can't understand is who is handling these senators who had dinner with the JEF?
As I recommended at the time, those scheduled to have dinner should have sent their regrets and had a impromtu press conference say that they were looking forward to dining and talking with the president, but they just couldn't do it while their colleague was on the floor seeking important answers.
Had they played it that way, they would be heroes today.
Posted by: jwest at March 08, 2013 04:42 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: maddogg at March 08, 2013 04:43 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 08, 2013 04:44 AM (JDIKC)
More cars, less cats.
Posted by: Regular Moron at March 08, 2013 08:26 AM (feFL6)
That is what ultimately shut them down. It is also why Mopar underrateed their engines so much. They all did it but they were flagrant. That hemi was only rated at 425HP if I recall correctly. It was actually close to 1000.
And don't snear at that 340. In 1969 it was rated at 325 and actually pumped out at close to 350. And damn you could hear that Carter 4 BL cut in all the way across the county.
And so could the cops.
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 04:44 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 08, 2013 04:44 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 08, 2013 04:45 AM (DcbLC)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 08, 2013 08:45 AM
If only the GOP were four-square in favor of gay marriage, then Detroit would be an easy win. /Malor
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 08, 2013 04:46 AM (tVWQB)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 08, 2013 04:46 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: lincolntf at March 08, 2013 04:46 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at March 08, 2013 04:46 AM (8Kv96)
**Slowly raises hand.
Yup, exactly the same here,
like watching an old tyme slot machine.
For the last several days
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2013 04:47 AM (iZP3p)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 08, 2013 04:47 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Checker Chubby at March 08, 2013 04:47 AM (lD8ju)
Individually, if your goal in life is to remain single, or to remain childless regardless of a significant other, that's a choice and the surging trend amongst young professionals.
But since you bring up marriage so frequently, do either of you plan to have children and raise a family, whether married or not?
You being law geeks, and at least one being gay, please clarify. Given the readily available prenuptial agreements and various personal contracts (Wills, banking and property rights specifying access and division at separation/divorce or upon demise by death, hospitalization visitation rights, and Power of Attorney) that two adults can make legally today regardless of gender or sexual orientation, what constrictions between spouses does a civil union or a church gay wedding impose legally compared to the obligations between spouses to be monogamous until death in "marriage"?
No matter whatever the morality, legislating morality is what fundamentalists including Islamists are obsessed with accomplishing.
Also, when laws (immigration for example) are not enforced, what's the point in more legislation, as if "comprehensive reform" will improve the government's unwillingness to function constitutionally? Further legislation only drags the government further into our personal lives. Don't think that will "help" homosexual civil rights beyond whatever benefits gays achieved via "hate crime" prosecutions. The stupidity of labeling one violent crime "hateful" and another benevolent fries the brain. And that doesn't even address the point that given "hate crimes" on the books, enthusiastically prosecuted, the opportunistic government officials position our government to dictating politically correct thoughts. Example, DHS targets and enthusiastically prosecutes persons (conservatives, libertarians, veterans, etc.) to make a public example of those who insist on being loyal to US constitutional governance. Our civil rights are lost further in the political process mandating cultural evolution into American socialist conformity, "intentions" aside.
Given the financial ruin of America facing us, sexual orientation and abortion activist [pro and con] obsessions are stuck on stupid, insisting that these are the only thing that matters, THE political distraction right now, preventing a conservative cohesion in public outrage to effect LESS federal spending AND LOWER TAXES.
Given the frailty of human nature, it seems the media including blogs obsess on one "it" subject at a time.
The economy matters the same to US taxpaying citizenry regardless of race, color, nativity, property, creed...
Coalition, Survival
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 08, 2013 04:47 AM (MhA4j)
Admiral Stockdale seemed to think pretty highly of McCain's behavior as POW. That is enough for me.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 08, 2013 04:47 AM (WVMUQ)
They are hoping they can create a narrative about a man but they don't have much information on some of them.
I also look for Obama to try and steal the limelight.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 04:48 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:48 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 08, 2013 04:48 AM (vuIm8)
I give. How?
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 08, 2013 04:48 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Urban Achiever at March 08, 2013 04:48 AM (aLSNh)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2013 04:49 AM (GFM2b)
Yes, he specifically used those names.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 08, 2013 04:49 AM (OevbG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:49 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 08, 2013 08:48 AM
Wiki:
She died just months after she was certified for combat, when she crashed her F-14 Tomcat into the sea on final approach to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72). A formal investigation found that the cause of the crash was primarily pilot error following an engine failure.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 08, 2013 04:49 AM (tVWQB)
QUIT.BASHING.ON.GABE
He posts these morning threads using his own time and is paid the munificent salary of zero. As far as I have seen for many years I have never seen him push "gay issues". He will mention news items on that score but he does not push them.
If you do not like his stuff there is always other blogs and a thread around 9 am. But the bashing gets damn old after a while.
Gabe, I like what you do here. Fuck the bashers.
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 04:50 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 08, 2013 04:51 AM (uxP0x)
Yeah, McCain was a great POW. I read about him. He's a fucking senile asshole as a Senator. He needs to go into retirement and shut the fuck up.
If we need another POW we will call him up. We already have an ample supply of assholes.
Posted by: maddogg at March 08, 2013 04:51 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:51 AM (9Bj8R)
McCain had a rep while in the Navy of being a "man whore" and chasing alot of skirt while in... when it came time for him to be selected for flag rank, the board (made up of flag officers) probably took one look and said "NFW on this dude getting a star... grandad and dad were Sailors, but this flyboy has pissed off a lot of people while boinking their wives"
Posted by: Mjölnir, Banhammer from the gates of Hell at March 08, 2013 04:51 AM (Jls4P)
And still come away with a winning argument that it's time for him to step aside.
I don't form an opinion of a surgeon based on his performance on the college football team.
The current discussion is about McCain's CURRENT performance as a politician.
His history in the military really has fuck-all to do with this subject, either good or bad.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2013 04:51 AM (iZP3p)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 08, 2013 04:52 AM (QVBzT)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:52 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 08, 2013 04:52 AM (1V6Pv)
That IS the reason. The nation is being run by actual, and wanna be totalitarians. Its been this way for a very long time, they just feel more comfortable coming out in the open these days.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 08, 2013 04:53 AM (/gHaE)
Morning, all!
So I just got this in my email. It's a mass email sent to all the employees of my particular department in state government from our legislative office:
Hello Everyone, Could you please assist me in responding to a right to know request from the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee for the following information.
All letters, requests, phone logs, e-mails, notations of conversations and other relevant materials concerning
• John E. Sununu from 1997 to present in his capacity of NH Representative, Senator and affiliation with Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld; The Boston Scientific Corp.; ConvergEx Group; and PricewaterhouseCoopers.
• Frank C. Guinta from January 2002 to present in his capacity of Manchester Alderman, NH Representative Manchester Mayor and US Representative.
• Joseph (Jeb) E. Bradley from January 2003- present in his capacity as Representative and NH Senator.
The requestor states “I am gathering information for research purposes and not for commercial activities”
Sounds like the DNSC is already ramping up their opposition research. Jeanne Sha-fucking-heen is up for reelection to the Senate in 2016. Gotta protect her! *rolling eye*
The Sununu they reference, btw, is the younger Sununu, not the former governor.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 08, 2013 04:53 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 08, 2013 04:53 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2013 04:53 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 08:52 AM (9Bj8R)
Same number she has apparently.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 08, 2013 04:54 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 08, 2013 04:54 AM (osdNx)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2013 04:54 AM (g7q64)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:54 AM (9Bj8R)
It's (Gay Marriage) ALL about Social Security retirement and Medicare insurance benefits. It's all about forcing companies to provide benefits to the spouses in same-sex relationships. It's all about money.
Posted by: Al at March 08, 2013 07:48 AM (V70Uh)
THIS! FUCKING THIS! Why won't any politician come out (no pun intended) and just fucking say THIS? Others have notes that teh gayz CAN marry in plenty of churches. It's all about the money, money, money. Period. Fuck.
Sorry about the ALL CAPS. The helpful buttons in the comment box no workey for me lately.
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at March 08, 2013 04:54 AM (RRbuy)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 08, 2013 04:55 AM (feFL6)
Instead, we have argufied all morning about gay marriage, Phyllis Schlafly's contributions, and McCain's war record.
Time for me to get busy at something productive.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2013 04:55 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 08, 2013 04:56 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:56 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 08:54 AM (9Bj8R)
Very true, but that shit will curtail your career ASAP too. Especially if that skirt belongs to another military man. Frowned upon seriously. And seriously bad for morale.
Posted by: maddogg at March 08, 2013 04:57 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 08, 2013 04:57 AM (vuIm8)
Posted by: Regular Moron at March 08, 2013 08:55 AM (feFL6)
My brother would buy a bunch of those a Walmart and keep one in the glove box. Cheaper that way and the ones from the dealer were no better than the cheap Walmart knockoff.
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 04:57 AM (53z96)
Benedict Arnold fought with bravery, honor and diginity before he defected to the British. Fuck McCain. He is a traitor.
Good Morning!
Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 08, 2013 04:57 AM (UrENZ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 04:58 AM (9Bj8R)
Here, have some pie and fight over whether tart and sweet is good or the source of all evil.
http://tinyurl.com/b2gv78s
Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Witch...Hack Spells Available Upon Request at March 08, 2013 04:59 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 08:58 AM (9Bj8R)
I have no idea.
Posted by: maddogg at March 08, 2013 04:59 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 08:52 AM
So I can't discuss facts inre Kara Hultgreen without having been in the same situation?
Incidentally, from the same Wiki (yeah, I know):
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As is standard practice in fatal mishaps, separate Judge Advocate General (JAG) and Naval Safety Center Mishap investigations were conducted. The JAG report cited mechanical malfunction as the primary cause, and this became the official Navy position to the public.
The Mishap Investigation Report (MIR) came to a different conclusion, however, citing pilot error as the primary factor. Navy MIRs (now called Safety Investigation Reports) are rarely made public. Rumors abounded that the investigation had found pilot error to be a contributing factor, despite a Navy press release to the contrary. The privileged report was later leaked by someone with access to it.[3]
As with most approaches to a carrier landing, Hultgreen's incident was videotaped by two cameras. The tape shows an overshooting turn onto final, then apparent engine failure, followed by an audible wave-off and gear-up command from the landing signal officer. Segments shown on broadcast television concluded with the rapid sequence of aircraft stall, roll, crew ejections, and impact with the water.
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My take: The Navy was pressured politically into putting her into that cockpit before she was ready, and it almost cost the RIO his life. The political side of the Navy blamed mechanical error, but the MIR found that the mechanical error was due to Hultgreen yawing too much (which caused the failure of the one engine to begin with) and then compounding the error by hitting the burners on the remaining engine. Yeah, she messed up and I think politics put her there because someone was more concerned about her sex organs than her fitness.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 08, 2013 05:00 AM (tVWQB)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 08, 2013 05:00 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 08, 2013 05:00 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 08:58 AM (9Bj8R)
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There used to be a trite saying when I was in the Navy.
Keep your indiscretions at least 50 miles from the flag pole. I used to have married women climbing in my bedroom window while I was asleep in CA. Never touched a one of them.
Now when going up to the delta camping different story.
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 05:01 AM (53z96)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 08, 2013 05:01 AM (oxIUw)
Posted by: NativeNH at March 08, 2013 05:01 AM (eSNbV)
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at March 08, 2013 05:02 AM (RRbuy)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 08, 2013 05:02 AM (p/cQy)
Posted by: VIA, on the tiny keyboard at March 08, 2013 05:02 AM (WVeRY)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2013 05:03 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 05:03 AM (9Bj8R)
When I found out he conspired with Kerry to give Vietnam a clean bill of health on the POW accounting so Clinton could grant them trade status, my mild irritation turned into loathing.
Several sets of remains were subsequently turned over AFTER those two tools had certified there were none left to be found. The Vietnamese ran, and continue to run, the same political extortion game over remains they've been running on the French for 50+ years. When they want something, they trot out another set of remains and commence negotiating for them.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 08, 2013 05:04 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 08, 2013 05:04 AM (feFL6)
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Mama AJ
"Abstract Lattice top?" Is that what you call it when you're in a hurry to bake and eat?
Looks really tasty.
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 08, 2013 05:05 AM (PBm/l)
Posted by: Blacksheep at March 08, 2013 05:06 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2013 05:07 AM (GFM2b)
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His nick was meant to take advantage of James Garner's "Maverick" popularity. John McCain is no maverick. If he were, he would not be just another corrupt politician like most others. Mavericks purposely go against the grain, not fall predictably in line with the gang like John does. Since McCain is a perfect example of the typical Washingtonian Republican, just like Graham and so many other sell-outs including Cornyn and the Bush politicians that created the BIGGEST federal government evah, there is nothing "maverick" about McCain who succeeded in forever corrupting the term with each of his subsequent terms in office. McCain has absolutely no self discipline let alone constitutional discipline. ObamaCare isn't enough federal power grab and authoritarianism over the US citizen's human body, since McCain will require a Dr.'s appointment in order for a US citizen to get McCain's mandated prescription before buying any Vitamins, mineral supplements, tylenol, aspirin, decongestant, antihistamine, or cough suppressant. "Over the counter" = obsolete. Were McCain the ONLY senator sponsoring that bill, he'd be a maverick. But he is not alone.
AZ provides good example nationally: elections are for removal of incumbents! Each election is voter opportunity to impose term limits on assholes.
At least the new Senator won't have the seniority clout to thieve your taxes and your rights.
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 08, 2013 05:07 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Clem's House of Offal at March 08, 2013 05:07 AM (ungLo)
Should have thrown his ass out the door, in flight
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 08, 2013 05:08 AM (8sCoq)
It's what you call it when you carefully cut the strips for the lattice and they fall apart so you just throw them at the pie.
I shoulda gone into Marketing...
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 08, 2013 05:09 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Jean at March 08, 2013 05:09 AM (gKGI0)
Posted by: maddogg at March 08, 2013 05:10 AM (OlN4e)
I used to have married women climbing in my bedroom window while I was asleep in CA.
Yeah, that Grace Coolidge was a hot little tramp, wasn't she, Vic?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 08, 2013 05:11 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2013 05:11 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: maddogg at March 08, 2013 08:57 AM (OlN4e)
If you get caught or chase the wrong skirt. You really think that was the FIRST time Paetreous sinned?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2013 08:58 AM (9Bj8R)
Also have to remember it was the late 60' early 70's... there were probably board members that served under his dad and did not like what they saw in him. Selections boards are told to be "objective" in their selections for promotion (both officer and senior enlisted in the Navy), but the subjective side comes into play. The boards don't always get it right - there is a reserve CAPT that has been selected for his star that was a Aviator while on active duty; he shot down a USAF plane during a training exercise in the Med (fortunately the USAF crew ejected)... investigation showed that he screwed the pooch big time during the exercise, but was allowed to stay in and move over to another community (BTW his selection has a few on the Active and Reserve communities pissed).
Also, I've seen more than once where a flag officer seems to "loose it" and gets caught fooling around, DUI, fraternization, using government travel for their own personal use, etc... some do it when they get their star, some have a long history of doing it and never were held accountable for their actions.
Posted by: Mjölnir, Banhammer from the gates of Hell at March 08, 2013 05:12 AM (Jls4P)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 08, 2013 05:12 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 08, 2013 05:13 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Jean at March 08, 2013 05:13 AM (gKGI0)
Posted by: The Rev. Jeremiah Wright at March 08, 2013 05:15 AM (m3FdL)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 08, 2013 06:57 AM (jZUEZ)
He did such a great job that Illinois is a one party state
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2013 05:15 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 08:44 AM (53z96)
When I read this I did a quick WTF because there was no fucking way it was in the neighborhood of 1000. Then I did a search and saw a discussion where some show said they measured it at 800 which is a lot closer than I would've put it. Horsepower ratings can be all over the place, as a fellow moron and I discussed earlier; and I wouldn't believe anything unless I witnessed a dynamometer reading or had it done by somebody I trust. I've been behind the wheel of one of those beasts and the power is huge but the quarter mile times lead me to believe that the correct HP may have been in the 500s.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 08, 2013 05:16 AM (uxP0x)
Posted by: Jean at March 08, 2013 05:17 AM (gKGI0)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 08, 2013 05:21 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 08, 2013 05:26 AM (JDIKC)
I would have never expected that either.
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 05:38 AM (53z96)
Posted by: a mindful webworker at March 08, 2013 05:42 AM (0+XZq)
I would have never expected that either.
Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2013 09:38 AM (53z96)
Hmmmm, that sounds like the right way to do it. That's still a huge number.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 08, 2013 05:46 AM (uxP0x)
Same sex marriage has nothing to do with 'marriage'. It never did. I look forward to the pogroms against Christians.
Posted by: puddleglum at March 08, 2013 05:51 AM (eAL0b)
Posted by: Jean at March 08, 2013 05:58 AM (XwDPQ)
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Posted by: citizen of the LoL at March 08, 2013 07:41 AM (DBkD3)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 08, 2013 07:44 AM (0Bs6G)
Sadly, what I suspect, is that you just have to look a few states over. You know how California's population is dropping as people move out of state? Well, one of those states they seem to prefer is Colorado. And the get to Colorado and start voting for the same failed policies that left California a wreck. And when Colorado falls apart, they'll be be moving somewhere else, again not making the connection that voting like a liberal will run your sate into the ground.
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