1 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Thursday, April 04, 2013.  On this day in 1841 President William Henry Harrison died from pneumonia, one month after his inauguration.

2 CT passes its tough new gun grabbing bill.  I want to see all the gun makers leave the State now.

http://is.gd/s5EjxQ

3 What happens when the federal government hands out tax payer money to hurricane victims?   Fraud and abuse, 700 million worth.   We need to quit subsidizing this crap.  You want to live in that nice beachfront house?  Well go see an insurance company about flood insurance and donÂ’t expect me to pay for it.

http://is.gd/PxOfRT

4 Obamanite idiots are pushing CRA again because one collapse is not enough.

http://is.gd/Ii5NpE

5 Shocker!  ACLU is defending the 2nd amendment.

http://is.gd/h3KmkX

6 ICE Union hammers gang of 8 amnesty plans.

http://is.gd/I9ZaqO

7 Menendez goons attacking the FBI now.  

http://is.gd/0VcF5m

8 Meggy Mac whining that evil conservatives are driving her out of “the Party”.  Well Miss Piggy, you have to be in the Party before someone can drive you out.

http://is.gd/BSf8dl

9 The Aryan Brotherhood is not a white supremacy group as much as it is a drug running group for the Mexican Cartels.

http://is.gd/2CSiRa

10 Sequester?  What sequester?  We can hand out $1.2B to cronies of Obama in the green energy business, otherwise known as subsidy milking.  But we need to shut down those WH tours.

http://is.gd/MSUZvS

11 MA McDonalds wants a degree and two years of experience to sell burgers.  All I can say is want in one hand etc.

http://is.gd/OwQyTa

12 Thomas Sowell explains the obvious.  Democracy does not mean “free”.

http://is.gd/eC5QnP

13 The fight over teachers unions moves to Kansas now.

http://is.gd/0QhcN0

14 Kindle Daily Deals

http://is.gd/XSi3Rl



And thatÂ’s it for today.

15 Why is Lindsey Graham not being primaried?

16 And Gabe, that supposed "misuse" of taxpayer funds was made up political horseshit.

17 Why is Lindsey Graham not being primaried?

Posted by: Attila at April 04, 2013 07:02 AM (Cs2tJ)

He is.  The last I heard there were two challengers. But he can't be primaried yet because we still have a long way to the regular election.  That primary down at the beach is a "special election".

18 So the AB has become the FARC of the Mexican cartels.  Well well.

19 Gabe,

Cuccinelli wants to use the law to go after a 47-year-old man who was banging a 17-year-old.

“This case is not about sexual orientation, but using current law to protect a 17 year-old girl from a 47 year-old sexual predator.”

20 Vic, thanks. You made my day.

21 "Why is Lindsey Graham not being primaried?"

Because he is the best that the gop can do.

LOL

22 The more radical the leftist agenda becomes and the harder they push to jam it down our throats the more decent, God fearing, patriotic Americans are pushing back. So good for North and South Carolina and every other state that tells the Feds and their pervert allies in Hollywood and the left stream media to go F themselves

23 DAY 149 1,311 to go (1,386 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

24 Vic,

How many gun manufacturers are left in CT?

Remington used to be there. They had an amazing skeet field right on Long Island Sound. I used to shoot there....it was spectacular.

25 From CNN, one dead in Ft. Knox shooting yesterday.  Still looking for shooter.

http://tinyurl.com/cfyvnw5

26 I thought Remington and Winchester were both there.

27 It appears that there is still quite a few gun makers in CT


http://www.armsdealer.net/businesses/category/gun-manufacturers/connecticut

28 19 Still seems a little bit of a stretch to me after reading the article. But then I don't get how statutory rape (the other kind) is a misdemeanor there, either.

29

Thomas Friedman just declared the Arab Spring a disaster. This all happened on Hillary's watch, and Obama's lead from behind non-actions.

 

Imagine the media howling, if this had Republican fingerprints on it.

30 Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2013 07:09 AM (53z96)

I wonder what they will do?

And I wonder how much manufacturing goes on in CT. Those may be just corporate and sales offices.

31 19 -

Look, that's  just the way it is.  We're going to have to look the other way when it comes to sodomizing teenagers, because....

Ok, I'm going to have to wash my fingers out with soap just for  typing that.  I'll be back.... bad fingers...

32 Sanford was being pounded by the herd of independent thinkers on Zuckerman Data Mining Inc yesterday for something related to spending taxpayers money to settle an ethics charge.  Needless to say I didn't click on the link to discover whatever dipshit details there were; only noting that the attacks have started.  I'm not sure whether they're afraid of him of consider him particularly vulnerable.  I've already weighed in on what I think of him (negative) but if they keep this type of garbage up I could end up in his corner, as distasteful as I might currently consider that.

33 The law in VA for age of consent is weird.  The acts against nature thing is a felony but the statuary rape is a misdemeanor unless younger than 15.

34 Damn you Gabe...bad enough you mislead me with that "drooling" teaser, but then I find out it's a blind link to Huff and Puff. Why in the hell would you want to boost their hit count?

35 That's Zuckerberg Data Mining Inc.

36 Could we invade CT? They're kind of the North Korea of America anyway, aren't they?

37 CBD and Vic: Connecticut used to be a major manufacturing hub of everything from textiles to metal. Waterbury was known as Brass City for its mills that cranked out all sorts of machine parts and during the war shell casings by the millions. Sadly, no more. Perhaps never more...

38 Sanford was being pounded by the herd of independent thinkers on Zuckerman Data Mining Inc yesterday for something related to spending taxpayers money to settle an ethics charge.



They are full of shit.  He paid 70K of his own money to settle that BS "ethics" charge. 

39 Posted by: Icedog at April 04, 2013 07:17 AM (9ScGj)

It's a recipe for a peanut butter and jelly cake!

40 North Korea is threatening to nuke us and SCOAMF goes on a fundraising junket as well as an anti-2nd amendment bund rally. This man is much closer in attitude to Lil' Kim than anyone realizes.

41 I would vote for Mark Sanford over any Democrat with a smile on my face. Fuck this circular firing squad shit anymore, we really can't afford it.

42 41 I would vote for Mark Sanford over any Democrat with a smile on my face. Fuck this circular firing squad shit anymore, we really can't afford it. Posted by: Mr. Pink aka a man without a political party at April 04, 2013 07:20 AM (++kZl) THIS. THIS. 1,000X THIS.

43 Thomas Friedman just declared the Arab Spring a disaster. This all happened on Hillary's watch, and Obama's lead from behind non-actions.

Imagine the media howling, if this had Republican fingerprints on it.

Posted by: tony redenzo at April 04, 2013 07:12 AM (1MsBy)

Yeah but if Flathead is weighing in against it that must be causing some furrowed brows among the nitbrains that read that fucking imbecile.  Plus it probably means the ChiComs are yanking his strings in that direction.

44 Sean Bannion is planning a get-together in the NoVA/DC region sometime in June. If you're interested in that, you can contact him at novadcmoronmeetup [at] gmail. I'm aware of another meetup being planned for NYC next week, you can email CBD at nynjmeet [at] optimum [dot] net for info on that. Damn East Coasters.

45 Circular firing squad? Really? Has anyone told boehner or rove about this thought?

46 The Simpsons as Akira.
http://www.ufunk.net/illustration/bartkira/

47
Meghan McCain ‏@MeghanMcCain

I don't understand what you gain by cannibalizing me out of the party? What do you gain? Seriously, why am I not good enough for my party?




"Cannibalizing me out"? An odd turn of phrase.

Must be an an Albany expression.

48

Good morning, fellow Morons.  ItÂ’s another cold, chilly morning here in the godforsaken wasteland of Massachusetts, but at least I get to pull the Harley out of storage on Saturday, so IÂ’ve got that going for me.

 

Thanks for the morning briefing, Gabe and Vic.   TodayÂ’s story concerns Mel Blanc, Bugs Bunny and Clark Gable:

 

 

Blanc (born Melvin Jerome Blank in 190 , of course needs no introduction to fans of classic radio or Warner Brothers animation.  My story takes place in 1961, after Blanc was involved in a head-on automobile accident on “Dead ManÂ’s Curve” on Sunset Boulevard.  The crash left Blanc with a triple skull fracture as well as broken legs and fractured pelvis and put him in a coma for three weeks.

 

 

Never a robustly healthy man, doctors became increasingly worried as Blanc failed to respond to treatment, and warned his family that the Man of a Thousand Voices might not survive.  BlancÂ’s son Noel (who, uncredited, ghosted several WB characters for his father during this time) took up a vigil at his bedside, reading newspapers to him and chatting simply about the family, but Blanc didnÂ’t respond.

 

 

Finally, in desperation, Noel approached his fatherÂ’s bedside one morning.  “How are you, Bugs?” he asked.  To his astonishment, Blanc appeared to hear him, and, with great difficulty, managed to whisper, “Ehh. . .whatÂ’s up, doc?”

 

 

From that point on, Noel would carefully call out the names of his fatherÂ’s characters.  Slowly, but with increasing confidence, Blanc would begin answering in the voices of Porky Pig, Foghorn Leghorn, Daffy Duck and all the others until he finally emerged from his coma.

 

 

And Clark Gable?  Well, the next time 1934Â’s It Happened One Night shows up on TCM, watch it.  When Gable and Claudette Colbert are stranded at the side of the road waiting for a car to give them a lift, Gable chews on a carrot as he trades wisecracks with Colbert.  And, slowly, the realization will come to you – Gable is doing Bugs Bunny before Bugs was created.  And thatÂ’s because animator Cal Dalton based BugsÂ’ wisecracking attitude on Gable.

 

 

HereÂ’s Colbert showing off a luscious set of gams in Night:

 

 

http://tinyurl.com/clthbk9

 

 

And hereÂ’s Speechless, a drawing by animator Darrell Van Citters on the occasion of BlancÂ’s death in 1989:

 

 

http://tinyurl.com/d5w5hb4

 

 

Hope you all have a wonderful day.

 

49 Colt is based in Connecticut...with about 900 employees. eople in the state. Sturm, Ruger & Company and Mossberg & Sons also based in CT. The state can say goodbye to more than 2000 jobs.

50 Those "ethics" charges were largely the work of the corrupt SC GOP leadership at the time.   It was then largely controlled by the NW Graham faction who hated Sanford because he was a libertarian Republican who really did believe in small government.


They don't like Haley either although their influence is on the wan now.

51 45 Circular firing squad? Really? Has anyone told boehner or rove about this thought? Posted by: GMB who hasn't posted in ages at April 04, 2013 07:22 AM (kPe9l) I would vote for any Democrat over either of them, because honestly WTF is the difference except with those two shitstains any negatives stain the R brand. So its like the worst of both worlds.

52 "Cannibalizing me out"? An odd turn of phrase.

Must be an an Albany expression.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 04, 2013 07:23 AM (kdS6q)

She's as ignorant and self-absorbed as her POS father.

53 Thanks for the story about Mel Blanc and the linkage to It Happened One Night MPPPP.

54
She's as ignorant and self-absorbed as her POS father.
Posted by: Captain Hate



Speaking of which:

John McCain ‏@SenJohnMcCain
USS John S. McCain deployed to coast off #Korean Peninsula


Kvelling because a ship named after your ring-knocking daddy may have a ringside view of The Second Korean War is just creepy.

55 48 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2013 07:23 AM (zF6Iw) I remember when Mel Blanc died, Warners placed a double-page spread in all the trades showing the cast of characters, heads bowed, gathered around a lone microphone in a spotlight. The caption read "Speechless." What an amazingly gifted man.

56 I remember the 'Speechless' toon. A sad day for cartoon lovers everywhere.

57 Outstanding story MPPPP! Bugs has always been my favorite toon. I have all his cartoons on VHS in storage somewhere...even the now banned episodes. Bugs was one seriously racist rabbit.

58 The militant atheists and their fagtivist allies have been wiping the floor with Freedom of Religion here in NC. Every month a new school or community announces that they're removing or replacing a Christian symbol (to avoid liability or to be "sensitive"). Flags that have flown over memorials for decades are now rotated so that an atheist can place the symbol of his choice on the spot for a week or two a year (they actually draw lots to see which weeks). If those NC lawmakers in the story seem a little nuts to you, that's because sometimes you have to be crazy to beat crazy.

59 G'mornin Rons.

60 Ace rule 42,must post any artwork discussed


http://is.gd/1xXBvl

61 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2013 07:31 AM (tqLft)

MPPPP linked to the photo......

http://tinyurl.com/d5w5hb4

62 Morning Sean.  Looks like the today is like any other day, someone has called in the MLRS on their own position.

63 "fagtivist" Ah, a new word to add to my vocabulary. I like it!

64 Good morning! I'm not going to make the DC moron meetup. I'm not ready to let you guys out of your boxes yet.

65 Morning all. So how many of these new state gun laws will end up in front of the Supreme Court?

66 Morning Sean. Looks like the today is like any other day, someone has called in the MLRS on their own position.Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 04, 2013 07:36 AM (44H6Y)

I'm going to have to look into having those warheads loaded with WP.  Maybe some entrepreneur has created the ordnance equivalent of "Pimp My Ride" 

It would make pretty pictures.

Oh and....moar coffee!!

67 Hilary is being trotted out there as the candidate for 2016. After 8 years of this fucking disaster, if she gets elected, we really can kiss this country goodbye, because after her, even if we had 100 years of Reagans in every elective office in the land, nothing could bring us back from the dead. I'm already shuddering at the prospect.

68 I'm not going to make the DC moron meetup. I'm not ready to let you guys out of your boxes yet. Posted by: Elizabethe at April 04, 2013 07:38 AM (qPCAa)

Awwwww....you're no fun!

You could come and you and I could sit in the Social Anxiety Corner and watch BC entertain us all.

69 "I'm already shuddering at the prospect."

Start sharpening your knives and loading the magazines.

70 69 Start sharpening your knives and loading the magazines. Posted by: GMB who hasn't posted in ages at April 04, 2013 07:40 AM (kPe9l) Well, magazines will become scarce or nonexistent as the guns are fired. So sayeth the numbskull from Colorado.

71 That is 'wery intrestin'' it seems the UK and Russian branches of Cypriot banks that had gone into lock down in Cyprus were open for business.  So a lot of the money that should have stayed in the country to get a haircut in fact fled to other countries.

72 Hilary is being trotted out there as the candidate for 2016.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2013 07:39 AM (tqLft)

Does that mean they've got her off the sauce and on a treadmill?

73 "Well, magazines will become scarce or nonexistent as the guns are fired."

The only person that can disarm you is yourself.

74 Colt is based in Connecticut...with about 900 employees. eople in the state. Sturm, Ruger & Company and Mossberg & Sons also based in CT. The state can say goodbye to more than 2000 jobs. Not counting sLes tax, income tax, lost sales to suppliers, trucking, etc. Tons of downstream activities.

75 Start sharpening your knives and loading the magazines. Silly man, magazines aren't loadable. I know because some genius Rep from Colorado said so!

76 Aaww I think Elizabethe is afraid she will be stuck bailing the rest of you Morons out of jail.  Sean will be found over in Annapolis passed out at the feet of the goat statue at the Naval Academy.  BCochran, probably under a table at a pub in DC proper.

77 After 8 years of this fucking disaster, if she gets elected, we really can kiss this country goodbye, because after her, even if we had 100 years of Reagans in every elective office in the land, nothing could bring us back from the dead.

I'm already shuddering at the prospect. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2013 07:39 AM

I'm glad you think there will be anything left for anyone else to destroy after Choom Boy finishes looting, dismantling and giving away the country. I'm not so optimistic.

78 The fight over teachers unions moves to Kansas now.


Good thing Topeka ain't Madison. Actually for now this is going over pretty good with the exception of the loudmouth union fuckhead here in Wichita who is raising a stink.

79 77 I'm glad you think there will be anything left for anyone else to destroy after Choom Boy finishes looting, dismantling and giving away the country. I'm not so optimistic. Posted by: MrScribbler at April 04, 2013 07:44 AM (qignd) It's whatever happens to be left. And I have no illusions that there will be much.

80 "Cannibalizing me out"? An odd turn of phrase.

Must be an an Albany expression.


Must be what she calls cunninlingis.

81 When I saw Mel Blanc in your story line MP, I thought, Oh don't ruin "Mel Blanc for me"**  but I couldn't resist reading. Thanks for the entertaining.



** Imaging Mel Blanc grinningly blurting out Looney Tunes tag lines while working over a drugged actress.

82 Touching story about Mel Blanc, I always thought Loony Toons were the best. I have to ride the Hog to work today. At the moment it is a balmy 28 degrees out there.

83 This business with the "Aryan Brotherhood" is just a media red herring, thrown out there to cover up that the most likely culprit in the killings of two northeast Texas DAs are the Mexican (undocumented Democrats, but I repeat myself) drug cartels.  Which, I might add, are the only groups with a history of knocking off government officials (and sometimes their families) who rouse their ire. 

84 Until the militant athiests start bringing all their retarded "demands" to the mosques around the country they should be ignored. C'mon let's see how much you really believe in your position.

85 Mr.Scribbler and J.J. Sefton, would that be called 'Looting the Rubble' as opposed to 'Bouncing the Rubble'???

86 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 04, 2013 07:42 AM (44H6Y) The banker barons always get their share first and off the top.

87 Crimes against nature law in VA? I may or may not of violated part of that with my wife the other day.

88 One of my favorite Mel Blanc bits was Private Snafu (as opposed to Generalissimo SCOAMF). I remember a documentary about Armed Forces Radio and a bit between Blanc and Lucille Ball... Announcer: "And here, Private Snafu is wooing his girlfriend" Snafu: "Besame moo, moo, moo-- Lucy: "Well, are you gonna kiss me or give me a quart of milk?!"

89 Aaww I think Elizabethe is afraid she will be stuck bailing the rest of you Morons out of jail. Sean will be found over in Annapolis passed out at the feet of the goat statue at the Naval Academy. BCochran, probably under a table at a pub in DC proper.  Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 04, 2013 07:44 AM

Not likely for me.  That's only happened to me once, when I caught a gentle prodding in the ribs from a cop with a nightstick as I lay asleep in an alley gutter in Aggieville in Manhattan, Kansas.

"Wake up, Lieutenant"

"How do you know I am a Lieutenant?"

"Who ELSE would be doing this?"

Evidently, I was not the first.  But it was the last for me.

90 Must read. NRO.com "After Obama". VDH predicts ACA will go the way of DOMA, or outright ignored.

91 David Brin was a prophet when he talked about the war against the bankers in Europe.  He was wrong through where the culprit banks were though.  He said Switzerland but it seems what will be nuked is Brussels.

92 Regading the whole Ben Howe - John Nolte - Dana Loesch thing:

1. I agree with Nolte.
2. Red State thinks they are the experts on everything, and usually do nothing but screw things up
3. Anyone notice Dana Loesch is writing on Red State and not Breitbart?

This appears to be one of those factional feuds which some conservatives allow to be showcased by the Left.  Buzzfeed is NOT our friend, and anyone who posts an article there is doing so either because they WANT to cause a public kerfuffle OR they are as dumb as a box of rocks.

93 We can hand out invest $1.2B to cronies of Obama in the green energy business, otherwise known as subsidy milking. But we need to shut down those WH tours except for those taxpayers that have $500,000 to contribute to the King. http://is.gd/MSUZvS Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2013 06:58 AM (53z96)

94 This business with the "Aryan Brotherhood" is just a media red herring, thrown out there to cover up that the most likely culprit in the killings of two northeast Texas DAs are the Mexican (undocumented Democrats, but I repeat myself) drug cartels. Which, I might add, are the only groups with a history of knocking off government officials (and sometimes their families) who rouse their ire.

Posted by: Cave Bear at April 04, 2013 07:47 AM (NKoXJ)

My bullshit detectors have been pegged since the first syllable of "Aryan Brotherhood".  It sounds exactly like a Law and Order script; life imitating propaganda posing as art.

95 Levin's show from last night is worth a listen. Levin and a doctor get into the details of Obamacare and he explains the truly insidious nature (as if we didn't know) of this nightmare. Last part of hour 2 into hour 3. This is frightening. Thank you Justice Roberts and the 52%

96 You could come and you and I could sit in the Social Anxiety Corner and watch BC entertain us all.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 04, 2013 07:39 AM (sbV1u)

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

97 From the sidebar on the hiring of tens of thousands of translators to help with the big health care giveaway, but calling them "navigators". Is this going to be one of those things where we have to start calling all translators by the new name, or is it just this particular thing. I don't want to accidentally call someone a translator, only to have some school kid give me a dirty look for not respecting the civil rights of the translator (navigator?).

98 Good morning Mr Adams. I saw your comment re my finding work a few days ago. Sadly it was well after you made it. Thank you sir. And... GO SHOCKERS!!! Gotta go. Love each other fellow babies.

99 I understand Mark Sanford is an "admitted adulterer." I get that what he did was immoral, inappropriate and wrong. However, are we going to drop that lead-in every time we mention his name anytime soon, or just wait until he loses his election to yet another flaming lib? This CNN story summarizes the problem nicely: http://tinyurl.com/ckggoal The left damn sure doesn't hold itself to any moral purity standard, and on this particular issue I'm surprised God doesn't just strike their hypocritical asses down with lightning. I personally don't think we should help out opponents wins using such issues. The stakes are too high right now.

100

#81: ** Imaging Mel Blanc grinningly blurting out Looney Tunes tag lines while working over a drugged actress.

 

"Th-th-th-that's all, folks!"

101 Posted by: Captain Hate at April 04, 2013 07:53 AM (/1wLO) But but "Aryan Brotherhood" sounds so scary and evil, not at all like the friendly mellifluous tones of "muslim brotherhood".

102 Isn't the vessel named after McCain's father?

103 Buzzfeed is NOT our friend, and anyone who posts an article there is doing so either because they WANT to cause a public kerfuffle OR they are as dumb as a box of rocks.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 04, 2013 07:52 AM (GoIUi)

This is the second day in a row Gabe has linked Buzzfeed.

104 "help out opponents wins" = help our opponents win Edit. Function.

105 102 Isn't the vessel named after McCain's father? Posted by: Baldy at April 04, 2013 07:56 AM (opS9C) Yes. He was an admiral during WW2.

106 Miss Marple.  With these squabbles I get this deja vu feeling. OH wait its not deja vu, it has happened before.

Its like watching that aquarium full of fish.  And sprinkling the dry flake fish food into the water.  And the fish rise to feed.  This circular firing squad stuff has, I fear, become Pavlovian.  Toss a bit of this chum out and watch people who should be allied against the progressive-socialists instead turn on each other.

Instead of worrying over what has happened may I make a modest proposal?  Like when Montgomery took command of 8th Army and the staff he inherited was always paralyzed by the fear of what Rommel would do next.  What he said to them was lets start doing things to Rommel.  In other words go on the offense and roll them back.

107 Schillary...never an attractive woman...looks like a bag of ass. Have you seen her lately? Three more years isn't going to help. I think our superficial electorate, which allows Dems to get elected in the first place, won't be able to pull the lever for a Helen Thomas look-alike. Delicious irony.

108 You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny? Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 04, 2013 07:54 AM

Joe Pesci funny.

109 Joe Pesci funny.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 04, 2013 07:57 AM (sbV1u)

Ain't nothing funny about a psycho with a pen.

110 The Marines aren't being flexible enough. Time for a new Commandant: http://tinyurl.com/cwomnt9 (Instapundit link)

111 Ain't nothing funny about a psycho with a pen. Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 04, 2013 07:58 AM (da5Wo)

Pen?  I'll bring paper so you can sit in the corner and draw pictures.

112 107 I think our superficial electorate, which allows Dems to get elected in the first place, won't be able to pull the lever for a Helen Thomas look-alike. Delicious irony. Posted by: Icedog at April 04, 2013 07:57 AM (9ScGj) My gut tells me Cory Booker might throw his hat in the ring. That's not an endorsement; merely an observation.

113 #99

The adultery isn't the problem for most people. It's the lunatic behavior that exposed the adultery that raised questions about his competency as an adult. If someone had done a movie about Sanford's behavior ten years earlier it would have been considered wild fantasy. Who would believe a person capable of such could be in high office?

114 http://youtu.be/A3OW51MQjuc

115

And Gabe, did you even read the article you linked to about Cuccinelli?:

-------------------------------------

“This case is not about sexual orientation, but using current law to protect a 17 year-old girl from a 47 year-old sexual predator,” Cuccinelli spokeswoman Caroline Gibson said in a statement. “We agree with the dissenting opinion that the petitioner was not entitled to federal habeas corpus relief and the full court should have the opportunity to decide this matter. The attorney general is committed to protecting Virginia’s children from predators who attempt to exploit them and rob them of their childhood.”

Cuccinelli agrees with the dissenting judge, Albert Diaz, who was appointed to the 4th Circuit by President Obama in 2009, who argued for deference to the Virginia Court of Appeals.

In Virginia, sex with a minor who is 15 or older can be a misdemeanor but not a felony. (MacDonald was also convicted of the misdemeanor of contributing to the delinquency of a minor and is not challenging that decision.)

Before the 4th CircuitÂ’s ruling, Virginia courts had found that Lawrence did not apply to minors, meaning that teenagers engaging in consensual sexual activity could be at risk of prosecution.

-------------------------------

 

So, taking the start that Lawrence did not apply to minors, a view that a judge appointed by Obama concurred with, is not an outlandish social viewpoint. Sure, the Washington Post (spit), NYT, etc. will brand it that way, but that doesn't excuse a supposedly conservative blogger from likewise behavior. Hmm, two days in a row you mischaracterize something like this. It's almost as if you have an agenda or something.

116 My gut tells me Cory Booker might throw his hat in the ring. That's not an endorsement; merely an observation. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2013 07:59 AM (tqLft) Not sure what Hilarity's core constituency is these days except for CPUSA & feminazis, but Booker has a chance to exploit a special class membership.

117 From the "After Obama" VDH article on NRO....

"ObamaÂ’s economic record will be dispassionately acknowledged to be similar to that of Jimmy Carter. But, unlike Carter, Obama will remain a mythical figure in liberal circles."

Because, repeat after me now.....he's black.

Incompetence lionized as legend. 

Yeah, but we're the racists.  Uh huh.  Riiiiiight.

118 You mustn't go near a wait-a-bit tree, they grab you!

119 "start" should be "stand". Damn early morning.

120 Getting back to the Virginia case, the  reason the case is in court is BECAUSE a 47 year old is challenging his conviction.  Of having sex with a minor.  State law has always interpreted the Lawrence decision as applying to adults ONLY.  So the AG is trying to ensure that it does not create an opportunity for adults to prey on teenagers.

And Gabe has a problem with it, not because it's being enforced on married couples or gay couples or any other adult couples and triples and whatever other number of people who want to engage in  any number of other acts.  No, it's because it COULD be interpreted that way.  But it's not.   The state is using the law to go after adults who are sodomizing teenagers...

Read the simple minded nitwit comments on that  Wapo  article, Gabe.  Those are your comrades.   Go rebrand with them. 

121

Meghan McCain þ@MeghanMcCain

I don't understand what you gain by cannibalizing me out of the party? What do you gain? Seriously, why am I not good enough for my party?

 

Perhaps because you're an addlepated twit who couldn't spell "Reagan" if we spotted you the R, E, G and N and let you pick a vowel?  Perhaps because the only reason anyone listens to the drooling fucknuttery vomting out your spermhole is because of   the two big milk jugs on your chest?  Perhaps because without the last name "McCain" you'd be advertising on Kos for bargain-basement rim jobs ("you've tried the best, now try the rest!")?

 

"My party" is a gang-bang, Megs.  Call me when you're hosting.  "Republican party?"  Not so much.

122 The WWII Admiral McCain was the senator's grandpa. The senator's daddy was the Vietnam era Admiral McCain.

123 And in north Mississippi we have Camp McCain because that is where the McCains's have their roots.

124 Perhaps because you're an addlepated twit who couldn't spell "Reagan" if we spotted you the R, E, G and N and let you pick a vowel? Perhaps because the only reason anyone listens to the drooling fucknuttery vomting out your spermhole is because of the two big milk jugs on your chest? Perhaps because without the last name "McCain" you'd be advertising on Kos for bargain-basement rim jobs ("you've tried the best, now try the rest!")?

"My party" is a gang-bang, Megs. Call me when you're hosting. "Republican party?" Not so much.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2013 08:03 AM (zF6Iw)

With Moron glasses on....

125 Thanks to several of you for the clarification on Cuccinnelli. I was about to scrape his bumper sticker off my Prius based on Gabe's comments.

126 "Incompetence lionized as legend." Just wait until all the official naming of federal buildings, landmarks and streets starts...

127 115 -

The biggest problem I have with Gabe is   there don't seem to be any lines he won't cross in service of the gay agenda. 

128 The adultery isn't the problem for most people. It's the lunatic behavior that exposed the adultery that raised questions about his competency as an adult. If someone had done a movie about Sanford's behavior ten years earlier it would have been considered wild fantasy. Who would believe a person capable of such could be in high office?

Posted by: epobirs at April 04, 2013 08:00 AM (kcfmt)

Not to pile on, because item #1 is to defeat that dipshit Colbert's sister, but Sanford running this quickly after humiliating his wife shows a jawdropping contempt for what he expects the electorate to accept imo.  I would expect a "normal" human being with a functioning sense of right and wrong to at least spend some time, like around a decade, immersing himself in a low to moderate exposure undertaking to get back in peoples' good graces.  But maybe a lack of a sense of right and wrong is what it takes to succeed in today's politics.

Enough of that; just beat Colbert's sister like she owes you money.

129 Meghan McCain during the final puzzle on Wheel of Fortune: "Okay, give me a Z, an X, a Q, another Q, the number 3, and for the vowel, the Batman symbol."

130 Meghan McCain ✔ @MeghanMcCain I don't understand what you gain by cannibalizing me out of the party? What do you gain? Seriously, why am I not good enough for my party?

131 Now that gay marriage and gays in the military have been hashed over, there has to be a new " Eleventy!!!! We're being oppressed" issue or people might start ignoring the LGBTQ'ers and go on with their lives. Queen's got to have her drama.

132 BurtTC you did not see the memo yesterday morning?  Gabriel is one of the lizard people running this country.  A Sleestack. 

133 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2013 08:03 AM (zF6Iw)

There is nothing about Meggie McCain that a ball gag and a bottle of bourbon couldn't fix.

134 Posted by: Icedog at April 04, 2013 08:06 AM (9ScGj) How will Sharpeton react when every[/] MLK Blvd is renamed Obama Blvd?

135 122 The WWII Admiral McCain was the senator's grandpa. The senator's daddy was the Vietnam era Admiral McCain. Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at April 04, 2013 08:04 AM (gh4OI) Ah, ha. Thanks for the clarification. The illiterate spawn must be the product of a recessive gene or sumpin...

136 When I saw Mel Blanc in your story line MP, I thought, Oh don't ruin "Mel Blanc for me"** but I couldn't resist reading. Thanks for the entertaining.

Yeah, I almost scrolled past it, thinking, 'Respect the cartoons!'

And I second MP's recommendation of 'It Happened One Night.' There's some amusing bits of dialogue in that movie.

137 Morning all. It's gonna be a long long long season for us Yankee Fans.

138 9 The Aryan Brotherhood is not a white supremacy group

The "press" shoving more up ours. Ya'll ever here of a "black supremacist" prison gang, or a "Mexican supremacist"(whatever the f#$@ that would be). Yeah, neither has the msm. You have to be white to be supremacist. And evil.
effinshit. 

139 There is nothing about Meggie McCain that a ball gag and a bottle of bourbon and some lube couldn't fix.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 04, 2013 08:07 AM (0zDXv)

Fixed.

140 - "Top news stories yesterday were (1) South Carolina's Mark Sanford . . . won the SC1 GOP primary; (2) North Carolina Republicans are trying to pass a nullification law . . . ; and (3) Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is fighting to uphold the state's 'Crimes Against Nature' law . . . How's that rebranding going?" Hell, that's nothing. Just wait until 2015, when the GOP primary field takes shape. In addition to Paul it's not outside the realm of possibilities that Palin, Bachmann, DeMint and Santorum all will toss their hats into the ring. In which event that primary cycle would become the biggest political farce in history, making the last one by comparison appear sentient and rational. Even one of those potential candidates would have a similar albeit perhaps not as grave of an effect. Palin alone would be a train wreck of epic proportions. Instantly in the foregoing events the primary cycle will devolve into a shrill pissing match about abortion, evolution vs. creationism, vaccines, gay marriage, euthanasia, contraception, etc. Meanwhile the actual electorate will start looking towards Hillary as their best bet. The Dems might win the '16 Prez election in essence by default.

141

142 Tell em Gabe, keep the filthy wingnuts away from us. That 17 year old girl can just blow her rape whistle.

143 The Marines aren't being flexible enough. Time for a new Commandant:

The Marine CorpsÂ’ commandant, Gen. Jim Amos, said heÂ’s aware of concerns from infantrymen, and wants to ensure standards are not lowered because of the policy change.


What's the action on when that will change. 2-1?

144 CBD, the ball gag for her and the bourbon for you to work up the nerve?

145 People don't listen to Meg-meg because of her tits. They listen to her because she's an embarrassment to Republicans and undermines them continuously just like her old man.

146 Just wait until all the official naming of federal buildings, landmarks and streets starts... Posted by: Icedog at April 04, 2013 08:06 AM (9ScGj)

What do you mean "wait"??

http://tinyurl.com/cyepd36

http://tinyurl.com/dxhdz6k

147

She's gonna be Senator Meghan McCain, I tells you. Rove is turning the party towards all of her positions and she'll be hailed in 10 years or so as just as Mavericky as her dear old dad by the MSM, the GOP will throw her money, and LIVs will bring her over the top.

148 Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2013 08:08 AM (9Bj8R)

They need to fire Girardi.

149 There is nothing about Meggie McCain that a ball gag and a bottle of bourbon and some lube couldn't fix. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 04, 2013 08:07 AM (0zDXv) Fixed. Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 04, 2013 08:09 AM (da5Wo) Don't forget the head bag

150 Morning all. It's gonna be a long long long season for us Yankee Fans. Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2013 08:08 AM (9Bj8R)

Karma.

It's a bitch.

151 They need to fire Girardi. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 04, 2013 08:10 AM (0zDXv) if George was still with us.....

152 What do you mean "wait"??

http://tinyurl.com/cyepd36

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 04, 2013 08:10 AM (sbV1u)

Upper Marlboro? Really? That's a bit surprising.

153 "Cannibalizing me out"? An odd turn of phrase. Must be an an Albany expression. They teach you that shit at Columbia. Mostly late at night. In the all female residence hall. "Canabalize me! mmmmm..."

154 126 "Incompetence lionized as legend." Just wait until all the official naming of federal buildings, landmarks and streets starts... That fucking building, that fucking street, that fucking landmark...

155 >>>How's that rebranding going?

Fellas, you can dress this pig up any way you want to, but I ain't falling for it, no sir.

156 Upper Marlboro? Really? That's a bit surprising. Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 04, 2013 08:12 AM (da5Wo)

I guess it's been a while since you've been there.

157

Oh, as long as Priuses were sorta brought up, something has been bothering me.

 

I've never even sat in a Prius so I don't know. Is the visibility really bad in those cars or are the people who drive them really that retarded? I actually dread driving anywhere near one.

158 Why? What happened to the $228M Yankees now?

159

Returning late to the Bugs discussion.  The Citters Speechless I linked to was the first.  Then Warner Brothers did a much larger version with many (though not all) of the characters Blanc voiced.  That's the one J.J. remembered, and one you could buy through the Warner Brothers mall stores, when they existed. 

 

I couldn't find a link to the second, but I am a bit rushed this morning.  I'm sure it's out there on the web.

160 What's the action on when that will change. 2-1? Posted by: Samuel Adams at April 04, 2013 08:09 AM (ZOf1l) The PC language will be that "Marine Corps standards are being raised to ensure that potential female officer candidates get a fair shake in the IOC."

161 From the sidebar on the hiring of tens of thousands of translators to help with the big health care giveaway, but calling them "navigators". Navigators. Yeah. Because "gimme" is too hard to understand. We're talking about LiV's. NOT a group known for their attention to detail.

162 I guess it's been a while since you've been there.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 04, 2013 08:13 AM (sbV1u)

Been out of the area for 6 1/2 years.

163 I would imagine a Moron meet-up would be something like this music video.

http://youtu.be/PSTHMxBttlU

164 157 A friend of mine has one and has driven me to a couple of sporting events in it. I noticed no visibility issue and was surprised at the leg room inside.

165 The PC language will be that "Marine Corps standards are being raised to ensure that potential female officer candidates get a fair shake in the IOC." Because a muzzie opponent gives a shit.

166 Gabe has an agenda? Color me shocked. As for the whole Ben Howe kerfluffle, I can't be bothered to care. I have more important things to worry about like how I'm ever going to be able to afford these Obamacare taxes. I make under 35K a year, husband is self employed, my w2 says the company pays over 12K a year for my health ins and they're going to expect me to find the money to pay a shitload of taxes on that? Thanks you fucking government fucks.

167 BC, did you get the attachment I sent to you?

168 @ 9 Vic

Nazis allied with Mexicans, you clowns have jumped the shark. Obama's spanking has rattled your collective brains!

169 Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 04, 2013 08:10 AM (sbV1u) Thanks for making me even more depressed... "Barack Obama Elementary School...a Green Initiative School" The jokes write themselves...

170 Been out of the area for 6 1/2 years. Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 04, 2013 08:14 AM (da5Wo)

It doesn't surprise me at all.

The naming thing....not that you've been out of the area.  ;-)

171
A job opening at a Winchendon Massachusetts McDonald's restaurant for a full-time cashier requires one to two years experience and a bachelor's degree. "Get a weekly paycheck with a side order of food, folks and fun," offered McDonalds.

Washingtonexaminer

172 Is that first nullification link bad, or is it just that my stupid phone hates it?

173 Because a muzzie opponent gives a shit. Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2013 08:15 AM (DngYb)

I wonder if Marine IOC will have a special block of instruction for female candidates on "Genital Mutilation In Case of Capture"

174 @ 140 Tsar Nicholas II

Obama is gonna help the Democrats kick some Republican ass in 2016. You guys got nothing to match the organization he has and what Mrs. Clinton will bring o the table.

175 Tru, yeah, I did.



So I read the Virginia article. Really? So we've got a 47 year old who's allegedly abusing/molesting a teenage girl and the best the prosecution can come up with is this?


Then they're fucking doing it wrong.


It should be no business of the govt who's giving out hummers and who's taking it in the squeakhole.

176 Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 04, 2013 08:19 AM (sbV1u) Do female officers get "rape" whistles for combat use?

177 Posted by: Virginia SoCon at April 04, 2013 08:01 AM (+/C3g) So protecting a bad law is going to win us votes and a solid rebranding. Got it!

178 #157

According to South Park, drivers of the Pious are enchanted with the smell of their own farts, so they often take their eyes off the road as their heads dive down to take a deep whiff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMTkedIUX8U

179 I saw mentions of Brian Banks yesterday, but never read the story. Just did. Being imprisoned for a crime you didn't commit must be a special kind of hell.

180 So protecting a bad law is going to win us votes and a solid rebranding. Got it! Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 04, 2013 08:20 AM (FsUAO) If only we were Democrats, then we could do this with impunity and win accolades from the press!

181 164 So they're all just assholes and can't drive? OK good to know.

182 45 years ago today. MLK shot dead

183 If a conservatives want to make a film about the stellar accomplishments of the redistributive state, they need look no further for a setting than Detroit.

184 I wonder if Marine IOC will have a special block of instruction for female candidates on "Genital Mutilation In Case of Capture" Titled "How To Just Say No & Mean It".

185 Anna Puma- PITH HELMETS FOR EVERYONE!





I would imagine more Star Wars Cantina Scene.

186
The PC language will be that "Marine Corps standards are being raised to ensure that potential female officer candidates get a fair shake in the IOC."
Posted by: Hrothgar



Completely unrelated, I'm sure:

For only the second time in history women were allowed to compete in the demanding Marine Infantry Officer Course this week - and for the second time none have passed.

The two female officers made it through the first few days of the course, but neither passed Thursday's grueling obstacle course, military officials said.

http://tinyurl.com/c2hwz8u

187

If it's a bad law, then lobby the legislature to repeal it. Otherwise, it's the AG's job to defend the laws of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

 

Or do you agree with administrations only defending the laws that it agrees with? See DOMA.

188

178 I don't know about that. All I know is some of the most egregious driving I've ever been subjected to has been at the hands of Prius drivers.

 

Crap like sailing in to cut me off from 2 lanes away and then stopping, not at the light or to turn but because they apparently didn't see me and want to roll down the window and stare at me? They are fucking freaks.

189 I skip most of the media because of the slant, or bias, they impose on their "reporting" of the facts. I guess I just gotta start skipping posts from Gabe too.

190

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 04, 2013 08:20 AM (da5Wo)

 

Prosecutors sometimes get the short end of the stick as it were.

VA clearly handed them a remarkably stupid law when it comes to statutory rape, so he's got to find something to lock the guy for.

Remember, they went after Capone on Tax evasion.

191 Yo ACE - I did check out 'LQQker'..........as expected kind of a 'B' movie-ish production - but worth watching.

(them modles sure do need some meat loaf & taters though IMHO)

192

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 04, 2013 08:20 AM

 

 

The practical alternative then is to make statutory rape a felony in VA.  I don't see that going over all too well from the Malor types.

 

Even trying to make this a branding issue misses the mark.  Cuccinelli has been very stalwart in defending laws that he doesn't actually agree with.  Bans on campus carry spring to mind.  IOW he's doing the job he was elected to do, unlike the Democrats with their invoking of "prosecutorial discretion" to deep-six things like, oh, Black Panthers and their voter intimidation...

 

 

193 *models* even - SHEESH

194 @182 Truman North

A great man who help give people like me civil rights. It's a shame your party wants to put me in the back of the bus again.

195 Not to be another guy to pile on Gabe (*snicker*), since he doesn't seem to be here to defend himself, but why does he have the keys to the joint? He's been outed (*snicker*) several times for 'misleading' posts and seems to have very few fans around here. Just asking...

196 168 @ 9 Vic Nazis allied with Mexicans, you clowns have jumped the shark. Obama's spanking has rattled your collective brains! Posted by: Kraze at April 04, 2013 08:17 AM (Dblg7) Ever hear of the Zimmermann letter? And no, that's not a Trayvon reference.

197 Speaking of Reagan and Chi-town thuggery, Reagan's boyhood home is no more.

http://tinyurl.com/cgcu7mk

198 Prosecutors sometimes get the short end of the stick as it were.
VA clearly handed them a remarkably stupid law when it comes to statutory rape, so he's got to find something to lock the guy for.
Remember, they went after Capone on Tax evasion.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 04, 2013 08:26 AM (GaqMa)

If you have someone that's molesting a teenager and the best you can do is to prosecute under that law, you are failing at life and your job.

199 Not to be another guy to pile on Gabe (*snicker*), since he doesn't seem to be here to defend himself, but why does he have the keys to the joint? He's been outed (*snicker*) several times for 'misleading' posts and seems to have very few fans around here.

Just asking...

Posted by: Icedog at April 04, 2013 08:27 AM (9ScGj)

 

 

It's ace's house and ace thinks he ads something.  There's probably a joke in there about the affirmative action hire, but I'm too lazy to make it.

200
Also:

Of the 110 students who began the course to become ground combat leaders at the beginning of this week, 96 are still enrolled.

As well as the two women, 12 men also failed to complete the obstacle course entirely or could not complete it in the allotted time, reports NBCNews.




10% failure rate for men, 100% failure for the women.  Obviously the sexist and/or racist standards must be changed.

201 159 I couldn't find a link to the second, but I am a bit rushed this morning. I'm sure it's out there on the web. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2013 08:13 AM (zF6Iw) I know I saw them in both the Hollywood Reporter and Variety at the time of his death.

202

A great REPUBLICAN who help give people like me civil rights. It's a shame your party wants to put me in the back of the bus again.

 

FIFY

203 189 I skip most of the media because of the slant, or bias, they impose on their "reporting" of the facts. I guess I just gotta start skipping posts from Gabe too. Posted by: akula51 at April 04, 2013 08:26 AM (Vgn84) THREAD WINNER

204 Ever hear of the Zimmermann letter? And no, that's not a Trayvon reference. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2013 08:27 AM (tqLft) remember they no longer teach history in the schools anymore unless it is about the evil white man stealing the red man's land

205 Ever hear of the Zimmermann letter? And no, that's not a Trayvon reference.  Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2013 08:27 AM (tqLft)

That was WWI.  No Nazis then.

But it's cool since no resident Libtard troll knows anything about history anyway.

206 Do female officers get "rape" whistles for combat use? Again, if rape is about power & dominance & NOT sex, as the lib'ruls have claimed since the 70's, HOW is peeing on your attacker going to affect his libido? It's really hard keeping these excuses straight without a scorecard.

207 200 10% failure rate for men, 100% failure for the women. Obviously the sexist and/or racist standards must be changed. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 04, 2013 08:29 AM (kdS6q) The leftists will cry that the test was engineered that way, when in fact real life and practical experience dictate otherwise.

208 Any WAPO article about the Virginia GOP should be taken with a huge grain of salt, or disregarded entirely.  The comments section in any WAPO article will make you despair for your fellow man.

209

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 04, 2013 08:28 AM (da5Wo)

 

 

What other law would you drum up?  For some god unknown reason, at age 15 statutory becomes a misdemeanor in VA and they've got the guy on contributing to the delinquency of a minor.  But assuming the 17 year old gave whatever the fuck passes for "consent" in VA, there's not much else you can do sadly.  (Keep in mind, in something less than 365 days they'd have precisely 0 to charge the creep with.)

210 J.J. Sefton the Zimmeran telegram was WWI.  The Kaiser trying to talk Mexico into declaring war against the US.  The Brits did a bang up job of torpedoing that idea and getting the US involved in WWI.

Typo, if Global Warming had been true then everyone would have needed pith helmets by now. 

211 TFG now with more genius!! “We’re not proposing a gun registration system, we’re proposing background checks for criminals,” Obama said, urging gun owners to “get the facts.” Does that make a fricking bit of sense to anyone???

212 200 10% failure rate for men, 100% failure for the women. Obviously the sexist and/or racist standards must be changed. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 04, 2013 08:29 AM (kdS6q) The leftists will cry that the test was engineered that way, when in fact real life and practical experience dictate otherwise. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2013 08:30 AM (tqLft) I doubt I could pass that test today. of course I am 50 fuckin 8

213 MLK was a Christian from the South who preached individual dignity and opposed the Democrat establishment. He'd be as hated by the Left today as he was then. Only being dead makes him valuable to them.

214 Anything which disproves Republican racism is proof of Republican racism. -Sacraments of the Left, page 1.

215 205 That was WWI. No Nazis then. But it's cool since no resident Libtard troll knows anything about history anyway. Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 04, 2013 08:29 AM (sbV1u) True. The krauts were just nationalists then. The national-socialist thing came a decadelater.

216 Just asking...

Posted by: Icedog at April 04, 2013 08:27 AM (9ScGj)

Although I disagree with Gabe on just about everything, he's done some outstanding work to intercede when some morons have issued not so thinly veiled cries for help.

217 10% failure rate for men, 100% failure for the women. Obviously the sexist and/or racist standards must be changed. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 04, 2013 08:29 AM (kdS6q)

This is really the point.

Sure, some women can make it.  But damn few.  Damn few.  Should we have to change the ENTIRE infrastructure of the Armed Forces to accommodate the, oh, maybe 2% of women who can make it?  (And 2% is being extraordinarily generous based on some studies of previous efforts I've read.)  Should we also ignore the sexual dynamic which would be greatly magnified in combat?

If you're a libtard the answer is "yes."

These are also the same people who thought Obamacare would reduce health care costs...

218 True. The krauts were just nationalists then. The national-socialist thing came a decadelater. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2013 08:32 AM (tqLft) yeah the Kaiser was a real sweetheart. Salt of the earth

219 A great man who help give people like me civil rights. It's a shame your party wants to put me in the back of the bus again. You can sit anywhere on the bus you like. However, while you're here, you'll have to move to the back of the blog.

220 How a member of the Hyde Park Historical Society felt about saving Reagan's boyhood home.

“Break the walls, floors, ceiling and fixtures of the Reagan family apartment into small fragments and sell them on the Internet for between $100 and $1,000 a chip, depending on the size,” Frances Vaandervort, a board member of the Hyde Park Historical Society, said in a letter to the university’s newspaper.

“This should raise many thousands of dollars for the university, rather like selling fragments of the True Cross.”

221 They gon' put y'all in chains!

222 213 MLK was a Christian from the South who preached individual dignity and opposed the Democrat establishment. He'd be as hated by the Left today as he was then. Only being dead makes him valuable to them. Posted by: Lincolntf at April 04, 2013 08:31 AM (ZshNr) Something that has always made my blood boil was the way Jackie Robinson was treated shortly before his death by the black militants. It was as bad if not worse than what he endured on the ball field in 1947. Sell-out, Uncle Tom, house ni88er (sound familiar?). And that vile piece of shit bigot Spike Lee has the unmitigated temerity to wear his baseball jersey. Despicable.

223

You know, you morons disappoint me.  Well, not you, typo dyanmofo and Virginia SoCon, since you both went right to the sex-crazed  Mel Blanc (which, since I told the Joe Friday sex story, must be expected).

 

But come on!  No love for Claudette Colbert and her long, firm legs?  If I had those waiting in a bed for me - well, let's keep things PG-13 and say I'd be spending an hour just on those cute little feet and heels alone.

 

**shakes head**

 

brb.  bunk.

224 It was LBJ's welfare that destroyed the black family in less than a decade, but its Republicans that are the racists.

225 A great man who help give people like me civil rights. It's a shame your party wants to put me in the back of the bus again. Posted by: Kraze at April 04, 2013 08:27 AM (Dblg7)

You're going to have to quote the specific policies that do that.

Show your work.

226

>>>MLK was a Christian from the South who preached individual dignity and opposed the Democrat establishment. He'd be as hated by the Left today as he was then. Only being dead makes him valuable to them.

 

These days they would just assassinate him in the media though, so I guess that's progress.

227 Democrats are the people who want to abridge civil rights now, just as they were then.

228 223 "...(which, since I told the Joe Friday sex story, must be expected). " Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2013 08:35 AM (zF6Iw) Just the ass, ma'am.

229 DoD has already stated (paraphrasing), if an equal percentage of women are not passing a test or skill, the service will have to PROVE why it has to be so hard. Failing that, it must be lowered for the ladies.

230

What other law would you drum up? For some god unknown reason, at age 15 statutory becomes a misdemeanor in VA and they've got the guy on contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 04, 2013 08:30 AM

 

The reasoning is that VA didn't want to make an 18 year old a felon for having sex with his 16 year old girlfriend.  And it's actually a reasonable argument on its own merits (however, I suspect most fathers have alternative Hidden Law remedies in those situations...).

 

 

231 What other law would you drum up? For some god unknown reason, at age 15 statutory becomes a misdemeanor in VA and they've got the guy on contributing to the delinquency of a minor. But assuming the 17 year old gave whatever the fuck passes for "consent" in VA, there's not much else you can do sadly. (Keep in mind, in something less than 365 days they'd have precisely 0 to charge the creep with.)

Posted by: tsrblke at April 04, 2013 08:30 AM (GaqMa)

If she gave consent, why are we involved at all?

232 226 These days they would just assassinate him in the media though, so I guess that's progress. Posted by: Bigby's Fisting uh.. Fist at April 04, 2013 08:36 AM (3ZtZW) Jesse Jackson was standing right next to him. Oh the humanity...

233 @ 208 correction: any article by WAPO should be discarded. The entire paper is fish wrap. Nothing more. NYT is right there too.

234 Icedog, well gender norming of the PT has already done that.

235 11 MA McDonalds wants a degree and two years of experience to sell burgers. All I can say is want in one hand etc. http://is.gd/OwQyTa Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2013 06:58 AM (53z96) I know what will fix that - raising minimum wage and 'legalizing' 11-25 million new illegals. Need a masters to wipe down the tables.

236 No...The Dem Machine would have swallowed MLK before the end of the Carter Administration. Like our pinhead troll, there were too many people ready to abandon their new-won independence for a government check and vote-slavery.

237 Show your work.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 04, 2013 08:36 AM (sbV1u)

You're going to have to explain that last word to him. No point of reference.

238

They teach you that shit at Columbia.
Mostly late at night. In the all female residence hall. "Canabalize me! mmmmm..."

 

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 04, 2013 08:12 AM (3h5Y+)[/i[

 

Why did Helen Keller masturbate with one hand?

So she could moan with the other.

239 Morning, Horde. 

240 Or do you agree with administrations only defending the laws that it agrees with? See DOMA. Posted by: Virginia SoCon at April 04, 2013 08:24 AM (+/C3g) So you're arguing the DA should go after all cases that involve oral sex and sodomy? Are you fucking kidding?

241 cedog, well gender norming of the PT has already done that. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 04, 2013 08:38 AM (fGI92) yeah but thanks G-D for age norming!!!! My scores keep getting better on the PRTs and it's not because I am in better shape

242 Meghan McCain deserves an emoticon of respect, you guys. Seriously.

243 BCochran, at what age do you think a girl can consent to a relationship with a 47 year old man? I guess I'm wondering where you draw the line between okay and not okay. It's evident that you think 17 is old enough.

244 Icedog, well gender norming of the PT has already done that.  Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 04, 2013 08:38 AM (fGI92)

^^^^^THIS

I remember being excited about turning 40 because it meant my PT requirements then became the same as a 20-year old woman.  Which is to say....easy.

Annnnnd there will not NO comments from you Cochran.

245

>>>Democrats are the people who want to abridge civil rights now, just as they were then.

 

THIS X 1000

246 MPPP brought the Helen Keller jokes I see.

Q. Why is Helen Keller's leg yellow?
A. Her dog is blind also.

247 Jesse Jackson was standing right next to him. Oh the humanity...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2013 08:37 AM (tqLft)

MLK used to be very critical of Shakedown Jackson on just about everything that has come to characterize his noxious persona.

248 The reasoning is that VA didn't want to make an 18 year old a felon for having sex with his 16 year old girlfriend. And it's actually a reasonable argument on its own merits (however, I suspect most fathers have alternative Hidden Law remedies in those situations...).

Posted by: @JohnTant at April 04, 2013 08:37 AM (tVWQB)

 

I agree that's a reasonable argument, but VA's application of it is moronic.

Most states deal with that in a much more sane way.  I've seen several variants that include "unless both parties are under 18" or "unless both parties are within X years of age of each other."

I even saw one that required a pre-existing relationship be shown.

There are tools in the law to handle that, why VA decided to be lazy on this one I have no idea.  You could exempt young kids "in love" up to a reasonable age and still prosecute this guy, but VA opted for the shorter version of the law.

249 "Okay, give me a Z, an X, a Q, another Q, the number 3, and for the vowel, the Batman symbol." Posted by: Truman North at April 04, 2013 08:07 AM (I2LwF) LOL! Reminds me of ZANJERO, a word used to start a Scrabble game at the end of The Gossage—Vardebedian Papers, a short story by Woody Allen of a chess-by-mail game between two guys that goes hilariously off the rails. The

250 243 BCochran, at what age do you think a girl can consent to a relationship with a 47 year old man? I guess I'm wondering where you draw the line between okay and not okay. It's evident that you think 17 is old enough. Posted by: Virginia SoCon at April 04, 2013 08:40 AM (+/C3g) Know what's funny? You just did a complete 180 when it came to the law. Oral sex laws must be enforced! It's the law! 17 is age of consent, but I think it should be higher! Prosecute him!

251

MPPPP,

Anything on Jane Russell ?

Thanks

252 Meghan McCain deserves an emoticon of respect, you guys. Seriously. Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at April 04, 2013 08:40 AM (dLOlG)

Is there an emoticon with 40DDs?

253 HoboJerky: what a great way to get the legislature to change the law! Overwhelm the courts with cases involving blowjobs. They would have that shit changed within the month, retroactively

254
243 BCochran, at what age do you think a girl can consent to a relationship with a 47 year old man? I guess I'm wondering where you draw the line between okay and not okay. It's evident that you think 17 is old enough.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at April 04, 2013 08:40 AM (+/C3g)

What if it was 35 and 17? Her consent ok then? 25 and 17? I bet that no one here would argue about her consent if the guy was 19 and she was 17. Why does his age invalidate her consent?

255 But come on! No love for Claudette Colbert and her long, firm legs? If I had those waiting in a bed for me - well, let's keep things PG-13 and say I'd be spending an hour just on those cute little feet and heels alone.

Ha! Gable got her using a child's tin horn and a blanket on a string.

There's the usual moron joke in there I know.

256 So you're arguing the DA should go after all cases that involve oral sex and sodomy?

Are you fucking kidding?

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 04, 2013 08:39 AM (FsUAO)

 

No, there's a difference between prosecutorial discretion and throwing the law out via court. If the constitutionality of a law is challenged in court, it is the AG's job to defend it.

257 243 Whatever age it is (I think 17 is a reasonable age of consent, honestly) it should be the same for all sex acts.

258 The Kaiser trying to talk Mexico into declaring war against the US. Mexico still remembered The Alamo & the Mexican-American War. Going 0 & 2 tends to have a sobering effect on one's memory.

259 253 HoboJerky: what a great way to get the legislature to change the law! Overwhelm the courts with cases involving blowjobs. They would have that shit changed within the month, retroactively Posted by: Truman North at April 04, 2013 08:42 AM (I2LwF) The DA would normally never go after it, which is what they've done for years and years. Old laws on the books no one will repeal.

260 Should we have to change the ENTIRE infrastructure of the Armed Forces to accommodate the, oh, maybe 2% of women who can make it? Isn't this the general Way of the Liberal? Restrict the masses/enact laws that prop up the minority?

261 That can't be right. Fucking Romo (the choker) is now the highest paid NFL player? Fuck me runnin'.

262 @222 Spike Lee has no priciples. He would wear a rainbow colored burqa if he thought it would get his pic in the paper. His pic on the newspaper is all that matters.

263 If she gave consent, why are we involved at all?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 04, 2013 08:37 AM (da5Wo)

 

 

Uhhh because she's 17 and can't actually legally consent.

It's just that because VA wrote a miserably stupid law, her "consent" would knock it down to a misdemeanor.

264 16 was always the "illegal" line in my mind. Don't know if that was the actual law, but I was the same age so didn't sweat it much. There's a big difference between 17 and 16 and 47 & 16, I know, but a legal difference, I don't know.

265 Why did Helen Keller masturbate with one hand?
So she could moan with the other.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2013 08:39 AM (zF6Iw)

How did Helen Keller's parents punish her? 
Rearranging the furniture.

Why did Helen Keller's dog kill itself?
You would too if your name was Bleerrghhhaarlll

266 We should raise the age of majority to 26 since that's how long we can stay on Mom's health plan. Including consent and voting. See how well that goes over.

267 @261 same reason that BHO made president. "unexplained phenomena"

268 So 'Kraze' was a one hit wonder? So cute when they do that.

269 We should raise the age of majority to 26 since that's how long we can stay on Mom's health plan. Including consent and voting.

See how well that goes over.

Posted by: Truman North at April 04, 2013 08:44 AM (I2LwF)

 

 

I actually like this idea!

You can consent when you have your own healthcare .

270 Uhhh because she's 17 and can't actually legally consent.It's just that because VA wrote a miserably stupid law, her "consent" would knock it down to a misdemeanor. Posted by: tsrblke at April 04, 2013 08:43 AM (GaqMa) 17 is old enough for 39 states' consent. That's probably why it's a misdemeanor.

271 @ 204 J.J. Sefton
Zimmerman letter was WWI, Germany was not Nazi yet. You Republithugs are so ignorant. AB hates non whites.

272 Limahl - Neverending Story
http://youtu.be/MccmHwA-c4U

And colour me gone and away as I madly scribble purple prose.

273 I propose a moron meet-up in my neck of the woods. How about Rouses Point, NY? We can tour the border, check out the security?

274 Yeah, the lower PT requirements for getting old are nice, but you don't get shit for your waist. How many folks, regardless of fitness, can wear the same pants at 40 that they wore at 19?

275 So 'Kraze' was a one hit wonder? He was in yesterday, too. Screamed 'racist,' had no substance, I think got TB'd. Too bad. He'd be completely tauntable.

276 The only reason MegaAss is still calling hersef a Rethuglican is because the minute she switches she's all done as a useful tool to the left. She becomes just another tubby blond dumbass. And the Demotards have shiploads of those already.

277 Jesse Jackson was standing right next to him. Oh the humanity]/s] wind drift... Fixed.

278 In a staggering case of affirmative action gone wild, officials in a major U.S. city are actually recruiting minorities to be lifeguards at public pools even if they’re not good swimmers. It’s all in the name of diversity. You can’t make this stuff up. It’s a real-life story out of Phoenix, the capitol of Arizona and the nation’s sixth-largest city. It has more than 1.4 million residents and, among its official mottos is “value and respect” of diversity. This means “more than gender and race,” according to the city’s official website. It also encompasses “uniqueness and individuality” and embracing differences. “We put this belief into action to provide effective services to our diverse community.” Evidently officials are willing to compromise those “effective services” at 29 public swimming pools spread throughout the city. To diversify the lifeguard force, Phoenix will spend thousands of dollars to recruit minorities even if they’re not strong swimmers, according to an official quoted in a news report. Blacks, Latinos and Asians who may not necessarily qualify can still get hired, says the city official who adds that “we will work with you in your swimming abilities.” Liberalism run wild

279 Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 04, 2013 08:43 AM (fwARV) Damn. TFG isn't even out of bed and we're already going to hell. Happy Thursday! Shit, he isn't even close to getting out of bed. 10:25 am PT || Delivers remarks at a DNC fundraiser; private residence, Atherton, California 12:25 pm PT || Delivers remarks at a DNC fundraiser; private residence, Atherton, California 1:40 pm PT|| Departs San Francisco 9:30 pm || Arrives White House

280

 

281 A forty-seven year old man messing with a 17-year-old didn't used to be a situation that needed laws written about it. Because there used to be fathers with bats.

282 So 'Kraze' was a one hit wonder? So cute when they do that. Posted by: RWC at April 04, 2013 08:46 AM (fWAjv)

They get confused once the message strays from their Axelrod assigned talking points.  Mind-lock ensues.

The inability to structure a logical argument is a Democrat trait.  Once he posted, he did his job and he went off to get his check for $10 and a free pack a cigarettes.

283 The Texas GOP party plank ALWAYS has an anti sodomy plank. They hates the Gheys something fierce down there. In fact you can always get a reduced sentence for killing one if you say he was hitting on you and you over reacted

284 The inability to structure a logical argument is a Democrat trait. Once he posted, he did his job and he went off to get his check for $10 and a free pack a cigarettes.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 04, 2013 08:49 AM (sbV1u)

If he's anywhere in NY, the cigs are worth more than the check.

285 Zimmerman letter was WWI, Germany was not Nazi yet. You Republithugs are so ignorant. AB hates non whites. Posted by: Kraze at April 04, 2013 08:46 AM (Dblg7) Zimmerman was a white hispanic who shot St. Trayvon of Skittlebrau.

286 Morning, Horde.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 04, 2013 08:39 AM (fwARV)

Morning!  You and MWR make a play date yet?

287 271 @ 204 J.J. Sefton Zimmerman letter was WWI, Germany was not Nazi yet. You Republithugs are so ignorant. AB hates non whites. Posted by: Kraze at April 04, 2013 08:46 AM (Dblg7) Germany and Mexico have always had an historic affinity, both in racial theory and nationalism. The Germans, even pre-Nazi, viewed Mayan-Mixtec culture as naturally allied to Germanic peoples. You must have skipped class to smoke choom and throw bricks.

288 251 MPPPP, Anything on Jane Russell ? Thanks Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 04, 2013 08:41 AM (R8hU ßhe had big announcement.s

289 MPPPP,
Anything on Jane Russell ?
Thanks

 

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 04, 2013 08:41 AM (R8hU

 

I've got a couple of stories around.  One, right off the top of my head, was after Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, when Russell and Marilyn Monroe were putting their handprints in the cement in front of Grauman's Chinese Theater.  Monroe whispered, "This is all wrong.  We should be making cement prints of my ass and your -" and she pointed to Russell's chest.

 

Here they are:

 

http://tinyurl.com/blt3vrt

 

And here's something I love: Jane and Bob Hope singing "Am I In Love?" from 1952's  Son of Paleface:

 

http://tinyurl.com/cp2taav

290 If Helen Keller was really bad, her folks would stomp on her books with golf shoes.

Hit the tip jar, I'm here... well, in perpetuity, really. 

291 And Gabe, that supposed "misuse" of taxpayer funds was made up political horseshit.

Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2013 07:02 AM (53z96)

Um, no. He used taxpayer money to fund his trips to visit his mistress. After he got caught he paid some of that money back. That's misuse of taxpayer funds in my book.

Thanks to several of you for the clarification on Cuccinnelli. I was about to scrape his bumper sticker off my Prius based on Gabe's comments.

Yeah, see, thing is, VA didn't try to convict the guy on statutory rape, which it could have, and which statute is undeniably constitutional. Instead, VA tried to convict the guy under the "Crimes Against Nature" statute, which has obvious problems.

Now, why would Cuccinelli do that? Well, for starters, it's a felony to give or get a blowjob in Virginia. A felony for anyone to give or get a blowjob in Virginia, with no age limitations at all. On the other hand, statutory rape of a 15 through 17 year old is merely a misdemeanor. Cuccinelli is essentially defending a bad law because he thinks the guy in question should be guilty of a felony and Virginia lawmakers, in their wisdom, think that stat rape for this victim's age bracket should only be a misdemeanor.

I don't think it's very conservative to use unconstitutional laws to procure heavier sentences against criminals than what the legislature intended. They could have gone after this guy for stat rape. Instead they chose this. Now they have to defend this ridiculous law, which, as I said in the post and here, has no age limitation in it at all. 

292 How's that rebranding going? Very well, unless you are a chickenhawk looking for a twinkie: One judge dissented, agreeing with a lower court that the Supreme Court’s ruling in Lawrence v. Texas on sodomy laws applied only to consenting adults. The case in question involved a teenage girl and a 47-year-old man, William Scott MacDonald, who was convicted of soliciting a minor to commit a felony. A clerk told the Washington Blade that a petition was filed on Cuccinelli’s behalf asking for the full 15-judge court to reconsider the panel’s decision. LGBT advocates have expressed disappointment, saying the law is unconstitutional and anti-gay. “This case is not about sexual orientation, but using current law to protect a 17 year-old girl from a 47 year-old sexual predator,” Cuccinelli spokeswoman Caroline Gibson said in a statement. “We agree with the dissenting opinion that the petitioner was not entitled to federal habeas corpus relief and the full court should have the opportunity to decide this matter. The attorney general is committed to protecting Virginia’s children from predators who attempt to exploit them and rob them of their childhood.”

293 Monroe whispered, "This is all wrong. We should be making cement prints of my ass and your -" and she pointed to Russell's chest.


She could put out eyes at 20 yards with those things.

294 Because there used to be fathers with bats. Posted by: zsasz at April 04, 2013 08:48 AM (MMC8r) In Vic's day, the father would have horsewhipped this scoundrel in the public square.

295

Because there used to be fathers with bats.

Posted by: zsasz at April 04, 2013 08:48 AM (MMC8r)

 

In Vic's day, the father would have horsewhipped this scoundrel in the public square.

 

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 04, 2013 08:55 AM (Cnqmv)

 

In Vic's day, they would have just waited for King Solomon to come by and cut the fellow in two.

296 I just called some of my homies and they are laughing at this idea of Mexicans controlling Nazis. This fool should have actually interviewed real street people that would tell him the truth.

297 Not to be another guy to pile on Gabe (*snicker*), since he doesn't seem to be here to defend himself, but why does he have the keys to the joint? He's been outed (*snicker*) several times for 'misleading' posts


Go ahead and name 'em, champ. That you disagree with me doesn't mean I've mislead you. It means you simply disagree with me.

298 Morning! You and MWR make a play date yet?

Posted by: EC at April 04, 2013 08:50 AM (GQ8sn)

No, not yet.  It may be in my interests to let it be.  Pissing off gingers who have the backing of the Horde isn't really high on my people-priority list. 

299 Oh look!  The troll is back!

He's the guy who thinks its racist to treat everyone the same regardless of race, creed, or color.

300 And, seriously, about this Cuccinelli thing, you guys really think the Crimes Against Nature law is okay?

Or you simply think it's okay in the limited circumstance that it's used when the dude is 47 and the chick is 17?

Odds that the lawyers prosecuting this guy had never had a BJ in their life?

301 Why are Republican's pushing for the evolved CISPA?

http://tinyurl.com/cb9xn6q

302 @ 300 Gabriel Malor

You are cool with a 47 year old dude getting head from a 17 year old? Do you have a daughter? I am no fan of Republcians but Cuccinelli is right here.

303

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at April 04, 2013 09:01 AM

 

I would say if you have a problem with the law, you might want to find a better "victim" than some 47 year old predator who likes to troll the high schools for a little strange.

 

Or, you know, get your Delegate to introduce a repeal.

304 @292 Waldo

I despise Republicans as racist assholes, but salute Cuccinelli trying to protect kids. Pedophilia is wrong and I wish more on my side would take this serious. This is one area Republicans are good in.

305 --A short stage play by Gabriel Malor.--

Me: It's a law against blowjobs.

You: This is about a child predator!

Me: The law says nothing about the age of the parties.

You: We don't care what the law says, only what it'll do.

Me: You are not a conservative.

--fin--

306 @ 303 @JohnTant

Pedophiles should be castrated.

307  You are cool with a 47 year old dude getting head from a 17 year old?

Of course not. That's why we have stat rape laws.

308 302 You realize that he's not being prosecuted for statutory rape, right? And that VA law is so fucked up that a 47 year old could impregnate a 15 year old and face a lesser charge than this guy is getting? Eeesh, just make stat. rape a felony and stick to it, with reasonable things like Romeo and Juliet policies (don't prosecute if the adult is less than three years older than the teen).

309 And, seriously, about this Cuccinelli thing, you guys really think the Crimes Against Nature law is okay?

Or you simply think it's okay in the limited circumstance that it's used when the dude is 47 and the chick is 17?

Odds that the lawyers prosecuting this guy had never had a BJ in their life?

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at April 04, 2013 09:01 AM (jZUEZ)

 

 

Well prosecutors don't make the laws, they just have to try to get something resembling justice with the laws on that books.

In that regard, I feel bad for the prosecutors, who likely felt "misdemeanor" wasn't harsh enough (and it's a moronically crafted law, IMHO.)

So unless I'm applying ill will to the prosecutors (Which I'm not) then they did what they had to.  Leave it to the legislature to change the law. (Or ballot initiative.)

 

By the way whoever said "Gabe doesn't come around." I would remind you, you're wrong, he tussles more than most (except maybe Ace.) with us Plebes.

310 You realize that he's not being prosecuted for statutory rape, right? And that VA law is so fucked up that a 47 year old could impregnate a 15 year old and face a lesser charge than this guy is getting? Eeesh, just make stat. rape a felony and stick to it, with reasonable things like Romeo and Juliet policies (don't prosecute if the adult is less than three years older than the teen).

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 04, 2013 09:09 AM (wZHcE)

 

You don't even need a policy for that.  You can write it into the stinking law.  It's been done! In many states!

311 The Brits did a bang up job of torpedoing that idea and getting the US involved in WWI.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 04, 2013 08:30 AM (fGI92)

And then blamed US for WW2 AND the rise of Communism because if we had not gotten involved in WW1 Britain would have been forced to accept German terms, thus would not have released the Bolsheviks, Versailles would never have happened, and we would have had peace in our times, blah blah blah (which is why I'm not a big Churchill fan. He was a bastard, but he was a Limey bastard and everything he did was for King and country. We would be wise to remember that foreigners do what they do for their own reasons).

Good morning roonz and roonettez! Gotta mow the lawn today before it rains, feeling lazy and don't want to do it.

312

Gabe,

 

Who was the prosecuting attorney in that case? Cuccinelli or one of his charges? Or was this a local DA decision? Unless it was the AG's office that prosecuted the guy, it wasn't a VA official who made that call. It would be a county prosecutor.

 

I know you and all of the fiscons here hate Cuccinelli and think he's an embarassment. But if you look at what he has done in office and not what the MSM thinks, I think he's a pretty good example of what we would want in an AG. For example, he expressed legal objectives to the transportation deal in VA, despite it being pushed through by the sainted Governor McDonnell, because of the tax increases included in it.

313 I despise Republicans as racist assholes...

Posted by: Kraze at April 04, 2013 09:07 AM (Dblg7)

Liberals always say they are open to new ideas and are then stunned when someone has a different idea. 

Those who are 'different,' must then, by definition, be racists. 

How has the banhammer not found Kraze yet?

314

I despise Republicans as racist assholes

 

Well, since you're such an authority, perhaps you could point us to any Republican senator who served as a KKK Grand Kleagle?  And do let us know the last time a Republican called Colin Powell a "house ni**er."  Or when a nationally syndicated conservative cartoonist described Condoleeza Rice as "brown sugar."

And as always, show examples.  Simply screaming RACISSS!  is not sufficient.

 

but salute Cuccinelli trying to protect kids. Pedophilia is wrong and I wish more on my side would take this serious. This is one area Republicans are good in.

 

You are aware that Democrats contribute money to NAMBLA overwhelmingly, aren't you?  And that pedophile Roman Polanski continues to be lionized by Hollywood which - the last time I checked - was not exactly a conservative hotbed?

 

Go back to Kos, little troll.

Posted by: Kraze at April 04, 2013 09:07 AM (Dblg7)

315

Of course not. That's why we have stat rape laws.

 

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at April 04, 2013 09:07 AM

 

And encode a difference for a 21 year old man having sex with a 17 year old vs a 47 year old man doing the same thing? 

 

Do you believe there is anything wrong when a 47 year old predator has sex with a minor, even a 17 year old minor?  Should the 47 year old not face a felony conviction for what he did?  Law aside...what's your preferred solution to this issue?

 

It's easy to snark at Cuccinelli, especially if you have a vested interest in the law in question, but others are right: he has to play the cards he's dealt and I don't think society is all that forgiving of the facts we have in this situation. 

 

 

316 **You are cool with a 47 year old dude getting head from a 17 year old? Do you have a daughter? I am no fan of Republcians but Cuccinelli is right here.*** I'm okay with it. 17 is plenty old enough to consent to sex. So what if you find it distasteful? We used to marry off kids much younger. Extending their childhood has not benefited society. See McCain, Meghan.

317 **You are cool with a 47 year old dude getting head from a 17 year old? Do you have a daughter? I am no fan of Republcians but Cuccinelli is right here.*** I'm okay with it. 17 is plenty old enough to consent to sex. So what if you find it distasteful? We used to marry off kids much younger. Extending their childhood has not benefited society. See McCain, Meghan.

318 313 The cards Cucinelli were dealt say that having sex with 17 year olds is not a felony, and he should have played those damn cards.

319

Apparently EoJ is doubly OK with it.

I'm really not.  But not much I can do about it I guess.

But I do think we're really lacking far to many facts to figure this out.

320 I'm sick of people claiming to be fiscal conservatives when all they do is use it to rail against So Cons. Seriously, it always comes down to gay gay gay gay gay drugs gay gay...

321 Thanks, MPPPP for the Wonderful story about the priceless Mel Brooks. http://mindfulwebworks.com/urantiana/ubcomix/04/channelling.jpg Mel Brooks punchline in a cartoon about channeling.

322 Good morning morons.  Little known fact: According to Gabriel Malor, rocket scientist or lawyer, William Henry Harrison did not believe in marriage.

323 Sorry, didn't realize we were discussing blowjobs. One of Virginia's most violated law if my experience is any indication. Glad I'm not in that fucked-up state anymore.

324 The state appeals court, however, turned him down and noted that MacDonald had convictions for violating Virginia’s anti-sodomy provision — twice each with two young women who were 16 and 17 years old. http://goo.gl/W0Fuu He's Scott Ritter's hero.

325 Hey, Kraze, I'm a black Republican.

326 The girl did not consent: The ruling stemmed from the 2005 conviction of William Scott MacDonald, then 47, for contributing to the delinquency of a minor and for the criminal solicitation of a 17-year-old girl to commit sodomy. The girl refused and reported the incident to police after MacDonald claimed she had sexually assaulted him. Looks like he panicked because he knew he had the two prior convictions and concocted this story that she sexually assaulted him. This guy is an asshole and a serial one at that. It was worth more than a misdemeanor.

327 Hey, Kraze, I'm a black Republican.

Posted by: zsasz at April 04, 2013 09:26 AM (MMC8r)

Do you hate yourself?

328 I love "It Happened One Night". I have watched it many, many times. Thanks for the stories, MPPPP.

329 Hey, hey, Waldo. We can't go introducing facts into this case! It will weaken the argument that us socons are repressed perverts who want to know what everyone is doing in the bedroom, jacuzzi, kitchen, etc.

330 James Buchanan didn't of himself anyway. On the other hand if you google "Has there ever been a gay US President?" you get a wiki answer with a picture of......Barack Obama.

331 Wait. She refused. So did he first accept that refusal, or did he attempt to force her? If the latter, then could nt they just prosecute for sexual assault, a felony on it's own? If it's the former, then...they're trying to give him a felony because he *asked* for a bj?

332 MacDonald was forty-seven years old at the time of the events giving rise to his state court convictions.3 On the evening of September 23, 2004, MacDonald telephoned seventeen-year-old Amanda Johnson, a young woman he had met through a mutual acquaintance. MacDonald and Johnson arranged to meet that night at a Home Depot parking lot in Colonial Heights. When they arrived at the parking lot, MacDonald got into the backseat of JohnsonÂ’s vehicle and they drove to the nearby home of JohnsonÂ’s grandmother. Johnson went into her grandmotherÂ’s residence to retrieve a book, and when she returned to the vehicle MacDonald asked her to "suck his dick." J.A. 51. MacDonald also suggested that they have sex in a shed in JohnsonÂ’s grandmotherÂ’s yard. Johnson declined both proposals, however, and she drove MacDonald back to the Home Depot parking lot. Nearly three months later, in December 2004, MacDonald filed a report with the Colonial Heights police maintaining that Johnson had abducted and sexually assaulted him. Mac- Donald thereafter met with and was interviewed by Detective Stephanie Early. MacDonald advised Early that, sometime in September, Johnson had paged him and asked that he meet her in the Home Depot parking lot. MacDonald stated that, once they met, he got into JohnsonÂ’s car and she drove them away. When MacDonald asked Johnson where she was going, she did not respond. MacDonald told her, "his has got to stop, lose my number, IÂ’m married, donÂ’t call me anymore." J.A. 59. MacDonald also advised Detective Early that he and Johnson stopped at a location on Canterbury Lane in Colonial Heights, and "at that point Ms. Johnson forcibly removed his penis from his pants and performed oral sex against his will." Id. MacDonald acknowledged that he knew Johnson was only seventeen years old. Soon thereafter, Detective Early met with and interviewed Johnson, who gave a sharply conflicting account of what had occurred. Crediting JohnsonÂ’s version of the events, Early secured three arrest warrants for MacDonald, charging: (1) the felony criminal solicitation offense; (2) the misdemeanor offense of contributing to the delinquency of a minor; and (3) the misdemeanor offense of "knowingly giv[ing] a false report as to the commission of a crime to the Police with the intent to mislead," in violation of Virginia Code section 18.2- 461. See J.A. 4-6. MacDonald was arrested on January 25, 2005. He was prosecuted in the Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court of Colonial Heights on the false police report charge, and in the circuit court on the other two charges. http://goo.gl/0Vc2J

333 #258

Mexico attacking the US would have been a disaster for the nation of Mexico but a huge boon for the people of Mexico. Just imagine if they got us pissed off enough for a repeat of the Mexican-American War. It ends with us pushing the southern border a lot further south and the Mex government getting a pile of cash.

Better yet, we could have taken territory all the way down to the narrow part at Oaxaca. Make them all citizens in a US that hadn't been corrupted by welfare yet. Image how much better off the average citizen of those Really Deep South states would be.

Preferably, people would attack us until we'd conquered and retroactively bought everything down to Panama. Let Canada know we're watching them and if the maple doesn't keep flowing the kid gloves are off. Secure the continent. Sure, a few million casualties would occur along the way but the benefits to the survivors would be great.

334

Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is fighting to uphold the state's "Crimes Against Nature" law, which makes it unlawful for adults of either sex to have oral or anal sex. How's that rebranding going?

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could you possibly be any more dishonest, gabe?

Because that isn't what the story is about and that isn't what Cuccinelli is doing.

 

335

Posted by: Waldo at April 04, 2013 09:40 AM

 

Whatta guy.

 

And Cuccinelli is somehow the problem here?!

336

Go ahead and name 'em, champ. That you disagree with me doesn't mean I've mislead you. It means you simply disagree with me.

 

Posted by: Gabriel Malor

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Uh, you pretending that an adult having sex with a minor is the same as "unlawful for adults of either sex to have oral or anal sex" is clearly misleading.

At this point, you're nothing more than a silly hack.

337

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 04, 2013 08:59 AM (fwARV)

 

In light of new information, I highly recommend you don't go on your date with MWR in Virginia.

 

Does anyone know if Maryland is sodomy friendly?

338 Wow. So the guy is insane, and horrible, but he didn't actually have any oral sex with the victim. She was the victim of a different crime, making a false (insanely false) police report.

339 He pled guilty to the filing of a false police report accusing her of rape-rape. The issue appears to be more one of whether Lawrence v. Texas applies to minors. I think the local DA was correct in filing a felony against this asshhole. The Gay Mafia just glommed onto it because they thought they could make points.

340 Hmm, Cuccinelli is bad for doing his job, but Obama's justice dept. was bad for NOT defending DOMA? I see a mismatch of principle here, regardless of what one thinks of the laws in question.

341 Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 04, 2013 08:59 AM (fwARV)

In light of new information, I highly recommend you don't go on your date with MWR in Virginia. 

Does anyone know if Maryland is sodomy friendly?

Posted by: jwest at April 04, 2013 09:46 AM (u2a4R)

Civil disobedience and all that. 

342 "at that point Ms. Johnson forcibly removed his penis from his pants and performed oral sex against his will." Yeah, hate it when that happens.

343 If Virginians don't want 47-year-olds getting, not even that, requesting blow jobs from 17-year-olds, when it would be a finger wagging offense if the penis in question was a lot younger, they're going to need some new laws that actually live up to that intent, rather than trying to bend law to do something that isn't its intent.

Sleazy as this Johnson guy might be, the lengths the state is going to put him away is really ridiculous. The more details that are revealed the more silly this whole case becomes. There was no sex of any sort, unless proposing a blow job be performed counts as the act itself. The map is not the territory.

344 338 Wow. So the guy is insane, and horrible, but he didn't actually have any oral sex with the victim. She was the victim of a different crime, making a false (insanely false) police report. He's sane. Solicitation of a crime is a crime. He was found guilty of solicitation and contributing to the delinquency of a minor and pled guilty to the filing of a false report.

345 People actually read what Gabe posts? I just click on comments, ctrl-f, "poppins" every morning.

346 I guess its one of those actual slippery slope arguments.  They couldn't get Capone on all of his murders so they got him on tax evasion.  I guess the strategy is in the same vain for trying to get McDonald.

347 Eh, I'm not arguing that he's legally insane. But yeah he's a dumbass if he thought that he was going to gain anything by claiming a 17 year old raped.him. And I get that soliciting a crime is a crime. But it's clear that the prosecutor is really stretching by trying to charge a felony.

348

a 47 year old man who solicits a minor for sex acts and then lies to police and accuses her of crimes in order to pre-emptively silence her deserves to be in a little trouble with the law for attempted solicitation and false report.  Yes the law is not perfect.  But there is such a thing as prosecutorial discretion. 

 

 

The description of the case as sex acts between consenting adults was misleading.  It undermines the credibility

349 #344

Which crime? The sex with a 17-year-old part is only a misdemeanor in Virginia. They dragged in a plainly archaic law that would never have been invoked if the girl was a year older at the time.

What this really comes down to is that Virginia has some ill-designed laws and the prosecutor should cut his losses to instead use the case as an argument for updating those laws. Because if they're seriously going to put someone in jail over a hypothetical blow job it isn't just the gays who should be worked up over this. Unless extremely selective prosecution has become acceptable, millions of adult Virginians should be facing prosecution as well.

350 he falsely accused her of felonies, kidnapping and sexual assault, in order to cover up his misdemeanor.  That is worth prosecuting, doncha think?

351 Ah, the abducted by 17-year-old girl who forces oral sex on me defense. It's gotten me more than once.

352 ever heard of "its not the crime, its the cover up?"  His cover up was to falsely accuse her of serious felonies

353 Hell, if asking a 17 year old for a bj, while parked in a car is a felony, then they might need to arrest damn near every 18-20 year old male in the state. Even the unsuccessful ones.

354 347 Eh, I'm not arguing that he's legally insane. But yeah he's a dumbass if he thought that he was going to gain anything by claiming a 17 year old raped.him. And I get that soliciting a crime is a crime. But it's clear that the prosecutor is really stretching by trying to charge a felony. As I mentioned, he has prior convictions and I believe he was still on probation for them. I think he filed the false police report because he thought she was going to or was going to go to the police. By claiming to be a "victim" he thought he could avoid additional charges or having his probation revoked. I see no stretch by the prosecutor. If four recent misdemeanor convictions did not alter his behavior, than upping it to a felony might. Plus, the fact that he filed a false police report, too, makes a felony filing well deserved. Dumbass? No. He has a compulsive personality disorder. I doubt that he will ever change. He's married, too.

355 falsely accusing someone of sexual assault and kidnapping maybe a felony

356 352 No one objects to his being prosecuted for the false rape report. Not even McDonald himself, since he plead guilty. It's just clear that Cuccinelli is using an unsympathetic guy to push his particular anti-sodomy agenda, and it's ugly.

357 355 If that's a felony (and maybe it should be, VA is weird), then they don't need to twist sodomy into the mix.

358

by all means, lets swallow whole the Washington Post's description of the facts of the case, especially since their story relies heavily on LGBT advocates. 

 

 

359 Forty-seven-year-old MacDonald and seventeen-year-old A.J. were introduced through a mutual acquaintance. They met in a parking lot in Colonial Heights late one evening. MacDonald rode with A.J. from there to her grandmother's house to retrieve a personal item. When she returned to her car, MacDonald asked her "to suck his dick." He then pointed to a shed in the backyard and suggested they go back there to "have sex." A.J. said she was tired and wanted to take him back to his truck. When they returned to the parking lot, MacDonald pushed her up against the hood of her car and starting kissing and groping her. She pushed him away and went home. WILLIAM SCOTT MacDONALD v. COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA Record No. 1939-05-2. In the Court of Appeals of Virginia, Richmond. January 9, 2007.

360 By all means let's swallow whole.... ---- I see what you did there.

361 by the way, WaPo reporter on the story is Rachel Weiner.  Funny

362 so, in sum, I am not swallowing whole Weiner's report that this case is all about sodomy. 

363 362 Cute. The prosecution isn't all about sodomy, which is good because none occurred. One part if the prosecution---cuccinelli's insisting on adding a ridiculous felony charge to the reasonable charges against McDonald---kind of is all about sodomy and who super-duper against it Cuccinelli is.

364

In this appeal, we consider a constitutional challenge to Code § 18.2-361 prohibiting sodomy.

I. Facts

The facts of this case are not in dispute.   William S. McDonald (“McDonald”), a man who was 45 to 47 years old during the years when the subject events took place, engaged in private, sexual intercourse and oral sodomy with a 16-year-old female, L.F., on two occasions.   McDonald also had private, sexual intercourse and engaged in oral sodomy with a different female, A.J., who was 17 years of age at the time.   In a non-jury trial, McDonald was found guilty of one count of contributing to the delinquency of a minor under Code § 18.2-371 and four counts of sodomy under Code § 18.2-361. Only the sodomy convictions are before this Court on appeal.

 

WaPo didn't see fit to report that

365

McDonald contends that the contributing to the delinquency of a minor statute refers only to sexual intercourse and penalizes such acts as a misdemeanor for an adult to commit such acts upon children aged fifteen, sixteen, or seventeen.   Because the statute does not mention sodomy, McDonald argues that the contributing statute does not apply to acts of sodomy.   He further infers from the carnal knowledge statute that because prosecution under its provisions includes both sexual intercourse and specified forms of sodomy, that this “puts the age of consent for sexual activity in Virginia at 15 years old.”   McDonald is incorrect for two reasons:  (1) the sodomy statute stands alone and without age restrictions concerning consent in this case, and (2) the real issue in this case is the victims' legal status as minors.

 First, the fact that separate statutes may overlap in their proscription of specific conduct does not detract from their independent enforcement except when double jeopardy concerns are implicated.  “[W]hen an act violates more than one criminal statute, the Government may prosecute under either so long as it does not discriminate against any class of defendants.”   United States v. Batchelder, 442 U.S. 114, 123-24, 99 S.Ct. 2198, 60 L.Ed.2d 755 (1979);  see also Muhammad v. Commonwealth, 269 Va. 451, 501-02, 619 S.E.2d 16, 45 (2005).  “Whether to prosecute and what charge to file or bring before a grand jury are decisions that generally rest in the prosecutor's discretion.”  Batchelder, 442 U.S. at 124, 99 S.Ct. 2198.   McDonald raises no double jeopardy issues.   Furthermore, there is no basis for engrafting provisions or perceived implications from the carnal knowledge statute and the laws governing the crime of contributing to the delinquency of a minor into the sodomy statute.   Such matters are for legislative consideration, and here the provisions are simply different.

Second, the real issue is the legal status of the victims as minors.   Determining the age of majority is the province of the General Assembly.   Mack v. Mack, 217 Va. 534, 537, 229 S.E.2d 895, 897 (1976) (holding “minority is a legal status subject to change by the legislature”).   The Code is quite specific concerning the dividing line between minors and adults.   Code § 1-203 (“ ‘AdultÂ’ means a person 18 years of age or more.”), Code § 1-204 (“For the purposes of all laws of the Commonwealth including common law, case law, and the acts of the General Assembly, unless an exception is specifically provided in this Code, a person shall be an adult, shall be of full age, and shall reach the age of majority when he becomes 18 years of age.”), Code § 1-207 (“ ‘Child,Â’ ‘juvenile,Â’ ‘minor,Â’ ‘infant,Â’ or any combination thereof means a person less than 18 years of age.”).

The sodomy statute has no express age of consent;  however, it must be applied in a constitutional manner in conformity with Lawrence and Martin.   The Court in Lawrence was explicit in its declaration of the scope of its opinion:  “The present case does not involve minors.”  539 U.S. at 578, 123 S.Ct. 2472.   We were equally explicit in our opinion in Martin:  “It is important to note that this case does not involve minors, non-consensual activity, prostitution, or public activity․ Our holding, like that of the Supreme Court in Lawrence, addresses only private, consensual conduct between adults and the respective statutes' impact on such conduct.”   269 Va. at 42-43, 607 S.E.2d at 371.

 

 

 

 

366 It was in the story WaPo linked. And anyway, it's a different case, with the same defendant.

367 I will climb in the barrel for the lack of spacing.  It was there when I copied it.  The law is imperfect, but this is not a case of gay hate.  It is a case of predator hate.

368

a prosecutor should consider the record of a defendant when making charging decisions. 

369 Cute. The prosecution isn't all about sodomy, which is good because none occurred. One part if the prosecution---cuccinelli's insisting on adding a ridiculous felony charge to the reasonable charges against McDonald---kind of is all about sodomy and who super-duper against it Cuccinelli is.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 04, 2013 10:21 AM (m0XvK)

 

Cuccinelli was not the prosecutor. The man was convicted in 2005. Cuccinelli was in the VA Senate at that time. He was not a prosecutor. So, do not blame him for the original charge. Again, you hate the man so much that you ascribe things to him that he did not do. Cuccinelli, as AG, is defending the laws of the Commonwealth of Virginia. That is what he is supposed to do.

 

370 No, thunderb is correct. The WaPo did NOT mention this guy's prior convictions for similar behavior.

371 There was nothing wrong with the charging in this case. And I agree that Lawrence v Texas should not be extended to minors.

372 I think calling this a case of sodomy between consenting adults was a lie.  She did not consent and was not an adult, and the defendant is a predator. 

373 372 I think calling this a case of sodomy between consenting adults was a lie. She did not consent and was not an adult, and the defendant is a predator. Posted by: thunderb Well, get use to it because you will hear it repeatedly described as such -- worse by our own side.

374 No one said it was a case between adults, only that the law says it can be a crime between adults. And, Waldo, the WaPo linked to a story about his previous convictions. Click the blue letters. We'll have to agree to disagree about how Lawrence should apply to teens. I take the view that sodomy should be treated no differently from other sex---if sex between adults and tenth-graders is a misdemeanor in VA, that should go for all flavors of sex. It's silly to say that a _____ year old is capable of consenting to vaginal sex but not to oral sex, as though oral sex requires some sort of special maturity or poses additional risks over vaginal sex.

375 It would be easier to take the LGBT advocates cries of discrimination more seriously if they stopped advocating for NAMBLA type positions

376 BTW Gabe said it was between adults, and absent an age in the sodomy law, that's McDonald's position as well.

377 So WaPo not mentioning ALL the facts in the case, like the perp's history, in the body of the story is not misleading? And pretending the AG charged this case is not misleading? And describing it as a case between consenting adults is not misleading?

378 And, Waldo, the WaPo linked to a story about his previous convictions. Click the blue letters. Where? I have no "blue letters." There are what appear to be five links in the article but none that indicate that it will direct you to the actual facts of the case. The facts of the case are important. Why aren't they all put out up front in the actual article? To do otherwise is unacceptable and typical lefty bullshit.

379 It would be just as accurate to claim McDonald and LGBT advocates are fighting for sodomy with minors. Would you find that fair?

380 This isn't a case of gay hate and liars piss me off.

381 URI campus on lockdown... gun free zone, etc... http://tiverton.patch.com/articles/uri-campus-on-lockdown-report-of-man-with-gun-5a6c658a