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May 21, 2013

Top Headline Comments 5-21-13
— Gabriel Malor

Happy Tuesday.

On IRS scandal, 56 percent think it's a deliberate attempt to harass conservative organizations. (The other 44 percent are apparently dumber than dirt.) 45 percent suspect a cover-up, while 42 percent instead see full transparency.

The White House's claim that the GOP "doctored" the Benghazi emails gets three Pinocchios. Ain't nobody got time fo dat.

Labor unions are starting to freak out about Obamacare. Apparently, they thought they'd be getting more favorable treatment than they're getting.

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1 DAY 196 1,264 to go (1,339 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2013 02:52 AM (+98Gb)

2 Good Morning Morons. Today is Tuesday, May 21, 2013. ON this day in 1927 Charles Lindbergh touched down at Le Bourget Field in Paris, completing the world's first solo nonstop flight across the Atlantic Ocean.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:52 AM (53z96)

3 Toll from yesterdayÂ’s tornadoes: 51 Dead, at least 20 children and hundreds injured. Massive damage.

http://is.gd/POcq0R

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:52 AM (53z96)

4 ObamaÂ’s claims of ignorance a lie? Of course they are.

http://is.gd/x61PFD

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:52 AM (53z96)

5 Bacon restaurant in SF shutdown because neighbors complained that it smelled like bacon. Some people are real retards.

http://is.gd/s8n4Iq

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:53 AM (53z96)

6 RIP Ray Manzarek at 74. He and Jim Morrison founded the Doors. He died from cancer.

http://is.gd/HOQEwc

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:53 AM (53z96)

7 Chinese hackers (military) gained access to a database containing names of surveillance targets. If this was classified sensitive information, why in the hell was it tied to the damn Internet?

http://is.gd/7Z4yVy

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:53 AM (53z96)

8 Immigration Union comes out opposed to Gang of 8 Amnesty Bill now. They call the bill dangerous and say Obama will simply rubber-stamp the applicants. Gee, no shit?

http://is.gd/CoNEnV

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:53 AM (53z96)

9 Utah Republican congressman says Obama may face impeachment over the Benghazi affair. I think he has his wires crossed. No laws were broken in Benghazi. There may be some instances of perjury and lies to congress, particularly from Hillary but nothing tracing back to Obama. Benghazi was simply gross incompetence, both before, and after the attack, which resulted in deaths of 4 Americans including an Ambassador. It was then followed by a massive cover-up and scape-goating affair. The IRS and other agency harassment of conservative groups is much more troubling and includes multiple felonies.

http://is.gd/Q8mRKy

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:54 AM (53z96)

10 Allies of Obama are now saying he should appoint a Special Prosecutor over the IRS affair. WILL.NOT.HAPPEN until he is forced to do so by congress. He is in that episode up to his scrawny shit filled neck.

http://is.gd/uiXUd3

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:54 AM (53z96)

11 This truly is tyranny staring us straight in the face. Every fucking day, these bastards attempt - and seemingly get away with - more and more crimes against the people. Judgement day's a'coming, people. This is not going to end well. And as time passes, every time I write that it becomes less and less sarcastic and more and more real.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2013 02:54 AM (+98Gb)

12 Insomnia. May not get up early enough to wave a sign at the IRS, will try. I think it's time for a little "frog marching." I tell a lie, it's time for a lot. Fumigate the Federal Government, it's filled with pests that carry diseases likely lethal.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 21, 2013 02:54 AM (qyfb5)

13 To repeat a phony quote from days of yore Â“Have they no shame?Â”. In the case of Demo-commies the answer is no.

While many Americans were tuned into news coverage of the massive damage from tornadoes ravaging the state of Oklahoma, Rhode Island Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse took to the Senate floor to rail against his Republican colleagues for denying the theory of anthropogenic global warming.

This kind of shit calls for us to send a silver-headed gutta-percha cane to the OK congress delegation to apply proper decorum to this worthless SOB.

(BTW I have already searched Amazon to find one for Trey Gowdy but they are not to be had there. Besides, I am worried about the price)

http://is.gd/DGM1EH

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:54 AM (53z96)

14 The IRS also went after conservative college interns.

http://is.gd/lvlBcG

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:55 AM (53z96)

15 Huge outpouring of conservatives sign letter opposing Gang of 8 amnesty bill.

http://is.gd/LxJ8mc

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:55 AM (53z96)

16 Chucky Shitforbrains caught asking if Republican RINO members get to vote no on an amendment that would prevent the illegals from getting EIC (tax welfare). The amendment failed because the Democrats love giving out welfare using other peopleÂ’s money.

http://is.gd/4gzQbf

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:55 AM (53z96)

17 The Obama charity which was fast tracked for approval by the IRS appears to be fraudulent. Listed addresses are fake and the only thing they have done is build Islamic stuff like a madrassas.

http://is.gd/wowqif

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:55 AM (53z96)

18 Loius Learner also targeted conservative groups costing them hundreds of thousands of dollars when she was head of the FEC. IOW she has a long history of committing politically inspired felonies.

http://is.gd/sqRQlU

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:56 AM (53z96)

19 45% of the criminal illegals would get amnesty under the gang of 8 POS.

http://is.gd/XarzAA

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:56 AM (53z96)

20 6 RIP Ray Manzarek at 74. He and Jim Morrison founded the Doors. He died from cancer. http://is.gd/HOQEwc Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 06:53 AM (53z96) I actually got to know him as an acquaintance when I lived in LA. Used to shoot hoops with him at the gym. Nice guy. Sorry to hear he has passed. Well, as the song goes "no one hear gets out alive. RIP, Ray.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2013 02:56 AM (+98Gb)

21 Illegals perform jobs that Americans just wonÂ’t do. Illegal Rapes 12 year old girl and forces her to have an abortion at Planned Parenthood. He gets plea-bargain to 6 years and Â“must leave the countryÂ”. Most likely he will get out of prison, stay here, and then get amnesty. And he will probably never get added to the sex offender lists.

http://is.gd/fOkC30

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:56 AM (53z96)

22 Outlaw DOJ leaked documents to smear Fast and Furious whistleblower. Another felony. Where are the charges?

http://is.gd/RnmPtr

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:57 AM (53z96)

23 WaPoÂ’s Eugene Robinson attacks Obama over Â“mistakesÂ” in going after reporters. He is one of the most partisan columnists in print on the left side. Amazing how things change when your own ox is gored eh? But it shows how much Obama and his gang of lawless thugs have screwed up. He is losing the left.

And BTW Eugene if you are reading this. These were not Â“mistakesÂ”. It was intentional felonious behavior.

http://is.gd/Dnzdns

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:57 AM (53z96)

24 Arch criminal Holder has prosecuted more leakers under WWI espionage acts than ALL other AGs combined. And they all complained about Nixon? WaEx thinks there has been a LOT of news blocked in this most Â“transparentÂ” administration ever.

http://is.gd/fLdtYV

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:57 AM (53z96)

42 percent instead see full transparency

Also dumber than dirt. Though you may want to lump these dumbfucks in with that 44 percent group.

Posted by: puddleglum at May 21, 2013 02:57 AM (VuS9i)

26 The word of today is Â“GOP OverreachÂ”. The MFM can not defend Obama so they attack the GOP for not being silent while criminals in the WH run amuck. Even as Obama shits on the press a lot of them still canÂ’t help but felate him. It must be the Â“abused wife syndromeÂ”.

http://is.gd/3aSuVZ

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:58 AM (53z96)

27 Lawmakers to hold classified hearing on the Benghazi security failures (separate from the cover-up).

http://is.gd/omv7Jv

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:58 AM (53z96)

28 IRS went after 83 year old grandmother. Republicans need to roll her out at the next hearing just like the Obamanites always do.

http://is.gd/mRjmbU

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:58 AM (53z96)

29 VDH thinks Obama won the election based on two things, Candy Crowley partisanship during the debates and all the illegal activity to squash conservative groups and hide embarrassing mistakes made by Obama.

http://is.gd/82UAGL

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:58 AM (53z96)

30 Issa warns Hillary that she should be prepared to come back. The question is, will he put her under oath this time. We know she lied before but she was not under oath (still a crime though).

http://is.gd/h5yzYw

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:59 AM (53z96)

31 NRO looks at the phony unemployment rate.

http://is.gd/OvMgDo

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:59 AM (53z96)

32 My thoughts on the IRS In Japan, when a bear attacks a human -- no matter the circumstances and no matter how minor the injuries -- the bear is hunted down and killed. People are organized, traps are set, guns are loaded. For even if the human wandered thoughtlessly onto the bear while foraging and tried to take the chestnuts or sansai (mountain vegetables) the bear was about to eat, even if the bear only swiped a hand and walked off, the bear has now had a taste of the forbidden knowledge. He now knows that he is more powerful than the humans and some day, maybe years later after a hard winter with no food in the mountains, out of desperation he may try to use that knowledge again. Once the bear *smells* human blood, it must be destroyed.

Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at May 21, 2013 02:59 AM (zZJJp)

33 IBD: 5 questions about the IRS ~~scandal~~ felonies that need to be answered. These are the same questions we have been asking and someone else needs to ask them and get answers from the IRS and the WH. That somebody should be a Special Prosecutor.

http://is.gd/2FdEvK

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 02:59 AM (53z96)

34 ObamaÂ’s secretary of labor nominee shook the banks down for $600M in Pigford-like payments for minorities using BS data. Ah, the power of government. This man should be in jail for extortion and the banks should initiate a class-action suit against him personally. My question for the banks is why do they always roll over for these SOBs?

http://is.gd/1Q8Ue3

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 03:00 AM (53z96)

35 Kindle Daily Deals

And people, I am sick of werewolves, vampires, and other crap being lumped in with SF. It is not SF.

http://is.gd/NmcbYv

And thatÂ’s it for Tuesday.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 03:00 AM (53z96)

36 All these scandals must require heads to roll,and serious jail-time. If not, it's the end of representative democracy and it means that voting no longer means anything at all.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 21, 2013 03:03 AM (P7hip)

37 Half the country doesn't care. They think conservatives should be living in fenced in camps.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 21, 2013 03:06 AM (ZSnCv)

38 perhaps a better way to say it is, 53 percent think there's a cover-up, 47 percent want free shit

Posted by: mallfly at May 21, 2013 03:06 AM (jDjlM)

39 Ethanol rapes Gaia.
http://t.co/DhEso0WoMA

Across the Midwest, farmers are planting crops on almost any scrap of available land to take advantage of consistently high corn and soybean prices. Growers are knocking down old barns, tearing out fencerows and digging up land that had once been preserved for wildlife. Some are even suspected of tearing into pioneer cemeteries.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 03:07 AM (hO8IJ)

40 ObamaFo!

http://youtu.be/zZ6t5PIfobA

They Call O Machete!

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 21, 2013 03:07 AM (LRFds)

41 someone is happy they're getting cake!

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 21, 2013 03:08 AM (LRFds)

42 That National Journal article actually has a LaRouchie working his voodoo in the comments.

Posted by: zsasz at May 21, 2013 03:08 AM (MMC8r)

Morning, Â‘rons and Â‘ronettes.

No movie story today; instead, IÂ’m going to repeat a story I heard on the morning news concerning the Oklahoma tornado* -

It seems a woman was being interviewed by CBS and was crying that she had survived, but her dog was lost. As she was talking to the reporter, she saw something moving in the wreckage. . .her dog. Â“God answered my prayer,Â” she gasped as the two reunited.

I know IÂ’m going to be, in various measures, pissed off, despairing and completely nihilistic today. But I will try to remember that story when I need cheering.

And hereÂ’s a picture of an American Eskimo dog, which is what I have: http://tinyurl.com/6tozl7l

Hope you all have a wonderful day.

*which, according to the loathsome Sheldon Whitehouse, the GOP is responsible for. Why someone like Ted Cruz doesnÂ’t man up, go on the Senate floor and Preston Brooks Democrat scum like this, I do not know. Perhaps if a few had their heads kicked in, the rest would think twice about opening their filthy yaps.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 21, 2013 03:09 AM (zF6Iw)

44 And thatÂ’s it for Tuesday. All heartwarming stuff. I need a car pic... How 'bout a 340 Duster? http://www.plymouthduster.org/Dusters20.jpg

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 21, 2013 03:09 AM (U2UQk)

45 Even as Obama shits on the press a lot of them still canÂ’t help but felate him. It must be the Â“abused wife syndromeÂ”.

http://is.gd/3aSuVZ

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 06:58 AM (53z96)

They were all the ugly dumbasses of their classes so they're more than happy to have anybody pay attention to them, even that desperate senile fuck McCain. Now they're holding out hope for a "shield law" so they can be even bigger partisan goofs and not suffer one iota for it. Those ignorant cocksuckers deserve nothing more than the rest of us have.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2013 03:10 AM (aaFao)

46 32 Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at May 21, 2013 06:59 AM (zZJJp) So, who's the bear and who are the humans in your parable?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2013 03:11 AM (+98Gb)

47 My question for the banks is why do they always roll over for these SOBs? Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 07:00 AM (53z96) In Soviet Russia, everybody rolls over for the KGB.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 21, 2013 03:11 AM (qyfb5)

48 Good morning!

Vic, there is a silver horse's head gutta percha cane for sale on eBay. It's from the UK and is currently priced a $76 plus you would have to pay shipping.

It might be too European looking for giving to Gowdy, however.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 03:11 AM (GoIUi)

49 We are all over the tragedy in Oklahoma including Live Video and How to Help.... http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2013/05/oklahoma-tornado-live-coverage-and-live.html Live Updates and More: http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2013/05/oklahoma-tornadoes-live-updates-and-more.html

Posted by: Steve at May 21, 2013 03:12 AM (ju1m6)

50 Progressive America: "We bureaucratically waterboard our opponents who exert their rights, but god forbid you try do the real thing to those trying to kill others. That's tyranny."

Posted by: T. at May 21, 2013 03:12 AM (eOdMc)

51 Built-in 44% stupidity. That's the new permanent reality. So in any national election, the Dems need pick up only 6.1% more for victory! Glory days!

Posted by: Marc Alberts at May 21, 2013 03:12 AM (ZdAo1)

52 Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 07:11 AM (GoIUi)

LOL, I was hoping to get buy with less than that. Perhaps I will have to abandon the idea of "silver".

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 03:14 AM (53z96)

53 *which, according to the loathsome Sheldon Whitehouse, the GOP is responsible for. The idiot needs to look at a geographic map of the USA. Locate Rocky Mountains in 'C' pattern, deflecting cold Canadian air into tornado alley. Locate Gulf of Mexico, bringing warm moist air into tornado alley. Even 'Native Americans' had a name for that part of the country. "Big Wind country" iirc. Long before the first SUV fired up.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 21, 2013 03:14 AM (U2UQk)

54 I love "Preston Brooks" as a verb.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 03:14 AM (hO8IJ)

55 29 -

VDH is wrong. Obama won because there are too many idiots in this country. And contrary to what Gabe and some others would have you believe, they cross all sorts of demographic lines.

The common thread is: government giveaways. We know this. We want to pretend it's something else, I guess because other "problems" seem easier to overcome.

Nope. We're a nation of idiots.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 21, 2013 03:15 AM (BeSEI)

56 @39 Yep. We used to be a rather pretty land, here in NW IL, but the farm-boys in their greed have been tearing up anything that inhibits their lust for the slightest little bit more acreage. Trees are our main loss, here. Huge stands, just gone.

We're noticing the soil is changing, too. Used to be a deep, dark black where we live. Now it's a browny-orange color. The farm-boys have to use very heavy injected cow-poo treatments, which they never did before. It stinks out here now, and it's a barren plain, with nothing but corn shoots for miles, and miles, and miles.

Posted by: Lizabth at May 21, 2013 03:15 AM (JZBti)

57 buy = by

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 03:15 AM (53z96)

58 WARNING: The JFG will address the nation about the tornadoes in about 3 hours, according to Fox. I am hopeful he will be able to get through this without uttering snark about Oklahoma Republicans.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 03:15 AM (GoIUi)

59 So, who's the bear and who are the humans in your parable? Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2013 07:11 AM (+98Gb) Not sure if you are being glib,... but the IRS (the bear) must be destroyed. Gov. must be, and must be treated as, a slave to the people. God gave *US* the rights, not a bunch of politicians and bureaucrats. Gov. must be hobbled and fettered and whipped regularly. But it is too late for the the IRS -- that needs to be shot through the head.

Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at May 21, 2013 03:16 AM (zZJJp)

60 While many Americans were tuned into news coverage of the massive damage from tornadoes ravaging the state of Oklahoma, Rhode Island Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse took to the Senate floor to rail against his Republican colleagues for denying the theory of anthropogenic global warming.

What is it about the nation's smallest state that they elect clueless soaks like Patches Kennedy and this fucking turd who believes that the magical compound CO2 is responsible for all the evils of the world. Maybe it's the nation's smallest IQ state.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2013 03:16 AM (aaFao)

61 Posted by: BurtTC at May 21, 2013 07:15 AM (BeSEI)

I was doubtful of his analysis as well. I still blame the FSA and shitty Republican lackluster candidate.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 03:17 AM (53z96)

62 The piece at the Daily Caller this morning IRS targeted conservative college interns adds to the creepy and disturbing; and fuels the anger. The IRS requested, in an audit, the names of the conservative Leadership InstituteÂ’s 2008 interns, as well as specific information about their internship work and where the interns were employed in 2012, according to a document request the IRS sent to the Leadership Institute, dated February 14, 2012. The IRS requested: Â“Copies of applications for internships and summer programs; to include: lists of those selected for internships and students in 2008. Â– In regards to such internships, please provide information regarding where the interns physically worked and how the placement was arranged. Â– After completing internships and courses, where were the students and interns employed?Â” WTF We always talking about turning the tables, using the liberal's tactics, for example, training our own. This is a prime example, and this is what the liberal goons do. It's going to take some pretty heavy cleansing and extermination to bring this country back around. Screw the Gang of 8 -- they are only making EVERYTHING worse. http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/20/irs-targeted-conservative-college-interns/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 03:21 AM (XYSwB)

63 But it is too late for the the IRS -- that needs to be shot through the head.

Posted by: Endeavor

It's "Old Yeller" time...without the tears

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2013 03:22 AM (1aiPM)

64 Marple, I have just been appointed Admiral of the Turkish Navy. Could you dip into your rucksack and come up with the appropriate rank insignia?

Yeah, I thought so.

It is a pleasure to work with true professionals.

Posted by: Patton at May 21, 2013 03:22 AM (JNUY4)

65 VDH is wrong. Obama won because there are too many idiots in this country. And contrary to what Gabe and some others would have you believe, they cross all sorts of demographic lines. -------------------------------- Here here! Did you know that voters with post-grad degrees went overwhelmingly for Obama in 2012? Idiots and losers. The new electoral powerhouse! Oh, and single ladies making under $50K! The only swinging-dick-sugar-daddy these man-haters will spread for is an elderly gentlemen named Uncle Sam.

Posted by: Marc Alberts at May 21, 2013 03:22 AM (gC30A)

66 Liberals disdain religion because it points out, in stark contrast, the difference between good and evil. It also serves to comfort one in tough times that they will be able to provide for themselves. Being alone in a big world, being responsible for yourself is a scary prospect, and often is not easy to do. It is much easier to allow someone else take the reins and take care of you. We are seeing the product of years of progressive encroachment on the ideas of self reliance and faith in onself and ones God. That is very difficult to overcome, if not impossible.

Posted by: Anthony L. at May 21, 2013 03:23 AM (bl6Iq)

67 "Apparently, they thought they'd be getting more favorable treatment than they're getting."

Why would they think that? With TFG safely re-elected their usefulness is at an end.

Posted by: Nighthawk at May 21, 2013 03:23 AM (OtQXp)

68 Toll from yesterdayÂ’s tornadoes: 51 Dead, at least 20 children and hundreds injured. Massive damage. http://is.gd/POcq0R Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 06:52 AM (53z96) All I can think of are the parents of those children. All of the questions and guilt they will carry. The pure pain of losing a child.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 03:24 AM (XYSwB)

69 Why hasn't congress named a special prosecuter to investigate the IRS targeting conservative groups? Why hasn't congress empanelled a select committe, issued subpeonas? I want these bastards put under oath, put under direct questioning and see how far up this goes, because you know these "low-level" staffers where following direct orders from congressmen and the president. This goes right to the highest levels of power. They have weaponized the government against us and the GOP leadership is asleep at the wheel! Someone kick boeners tanning bed!

Posted by: kreplach at May 21, 2013 03:24 AM (74T7W)

70 WARNING: The JFG will address the nation about the tornadoes in about 3 hours

The same JEF who promised his election would heal the Erf and stop the seas from rising?

but the farm-boys in their greed have been tearing up anything that inhibits their lust for the slightest little bit more acreage.

Median farm household incomes are something like 50% higher than median non-farm household incomes; I'm kind of losing sight of the need for that particular federal wealth transfer (particularly when I can look at the subsidy lists for my hometown and recognize half the names as 90-year-old women who retired from farming when I was kid and people my age who've moved to a big city but their folks kept them on the gravy train).

Any Moron Economists have time to enlighten me?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 03:24 AM (hO8IJ)

71 My only reform suggestion for government agencies, if we cannot get abolishment, is to REQUIRE all federal agencies hire from 2 labor pools, Republican and democrat. Each party would provide a list of names and hiring would have to come from each pool in equal numbers.

The second reform would be to remove the employee unions, since obviously the union leadership is exerting illegal influence on employees.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 03:24 AM (GoIUi)

72 morning! Have we determined if any Oklahoma morons were affected by the tornadoes? I believe "wheatie" said her hubby was right in the path yesterday in one of the afternoon threads. prayers to all the affected.. what a monster tornado it was.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 21, 2013 03:25 AM (UTq/I)

73 My reform suggestion would be outright abolition.

Posted by: Anthony L. at May 21, 2013 03:26 AM (bl6Iq)

74 All I can think of are the parents of those children. All of the questions and guilt they will carry. The pure pain of losing a child.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 07:24 AM (XYSwB)

I had to turn off the TV yesterday. Couldn't take it anymore.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 03:26 AM (53z96)

75 Screw the Gang of 8 -- they are only making EVERYTHING worse. Funded by the Facebook founder. Who would like nothing better then to bring a couple hundred thousand Indian (dot not feather) programmers into the country and pay them half of what an American would work for. Their productivity would be half, too. But that's math, and math is hard.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 21, 2013 03:27 AM (U2UQk)

76 Toll from yesterdayÂ’s tornadoes: 51 Dead, at least 20 children and hundreds injured. Massive damage. http://is.gd/POcq0R Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 06:52 AM (53z96) This should have been delayed, and changed to another date due to the tragedy in OK, imho.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 03:27 AM (XYSwB)

77 The long list of predictable news won't depress me today as it usually does. Instead I'm going to celebrate with the survivors of yesterday's chaos, and sympathize with those who have lost family members.

I'm going to celebrate the many, many individuals who are out there in the neighborhoods helping neighbors, picking up debris, showing their children how to live life the right way, feeding family and friends, taking care of business without being ordered to by those sick few who think only they know what is the best way to handle disaster.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 21, 2013 03:28 AM (aLwsp)

78 Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 21, 2013 07:28 AM (aLwsp) THIS!!! This is what will eventually save the republic.

Posted by: Anthony L. at May 21, 2013 03:30 AM (bl6Iq)

79 Nope. We're a nation of idiots.

No, they (not we) have just been transformed into soma-narcotized bundles of appetites. Now where have I heard that before?

Posted by: pep at May 21, 2013 03:32 AM (YXmuI)

80 The Obama charity which was fast tracked for approval by the IRS appears to be fraudulent. Listed addresses are fake and the only thing they have done is build Islamic stuff like a madrassas. Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 06:55 AM (53z96)

Heh. I drive my that UPS Store everyday on the way home.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 21, 2013 03:32 AM (sbV1u)

81 Union dunce: "We just want to keep what we already have and what we bought at tremendous cost.Â” Yeah, that ain't how it works, dude.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at May 21, 2013 03:33 AM (JQuNB)

82 Prayers to the afflicted in OK.

I have never lived in a tornado prone area. I would have thought the schools were the safest, best built structures--or is it that nothing would've withstood the force of the tornado that struck?

Posted by: Dish of Red at May 21, 2013 03:34 AM (Dmq63)

83 The incandescent light bulb in CA that had been burning non-stop for over a hundred years? It's dead.

http://www.centennialbulb.org/cam.htm

Attention historians of 2513: If you need a starting date for the Second Dark Ages, today's a pretty good pick.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 03:34 AM (hO8IJ)

84 SiL is stationed at Tinker AFB in OKC. Daughter and grand-daughter were about 1.5 miles from the tornado in Moore. Got a text from her @2PM yesterday. "Its here". No word for over an hour. They're OK. Wife and I were a wreck.

Posted by: someoldguy at May 21, 2013 03:35 AM (fR7g6)

85 My father, who served in the Army from before Pearl Harbor until after the war ended, had a complete fear of tornadoes.

When he was a boy growing up on a ranch in Texas during the 1920's, they drove by a town that was completely wiped out by a tornado, which of course in those days appeared without any sort of warning. He never got over it.

Consequently, he always insisted we have home with basements, which all of his children do.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 03:35 AM (GoIUi)

86 Each party would provide a list of names and hiring would have to come from each pool in equal numbers.

Unpossible. How would you explain the immediate divergence in productivity?

Posted by: pep at May 21, 2013 03:35 AM (YXmuI)

87 So I just thought of something. I keep hearing pro-amnesty ads on the radio from that fake front group "Americans For A Conservative Direction" or something like that. In reality it's Mark Zuckerberg's money, so hardly "conservative." I wonder if they have non-profit tax-exempt status, and if so how hard it was to get it. If they do, it adds another dimension to this thing and helps prove the delays/denials are politically motivated. Next thought - what practical recourse do we have against all of this? The political system rests on good faith, but it is apparent that good faith was abandoned quite some time ago.

Posted by: @johntant at May 21, 2013 03:36 AM (CQCaZ)

88 RE: #17 excerpt from the piece: Despite raising more than $250,000, the alleged charity doesnÂ’t seem to have done much. Its website claims the organization has built a madrassa and was building an imamÂ’s house as well as some Â“proposed latrines,Â” but there is no other evidence that the nonprofit was working to Â“mitigate social-shortcomings in areas of education and literacy, health and well-being, poverty, and lack of community infrastructure in such basic needs such as water, electricity, shelter and sustenance,Â” as the site says. Alton Ray Baysden, a former Department of State employee and registered Republican who helped to start the foundation, declined to comment before seeing copies of this reporterÂ’s passport and government ID, along with a description of the articleÂ’s Â“motivationÂ” and Â“slant.Â” Repeated phone calls to the Barack H. Foundation went to the organizationÂ’s voicemail and were not returned. wth? Thank God there are people like this author out there actually investigating. Anything connected to JEF is corrupt and illegal. The lowest of life forms are all connected to the SCoaMF.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 03:36 AM (XYSwB)

89 What is it about the nation's smallest state that they elect clueless soaks like Patches Kennedy and this fucking turd who believes that the magical compound CO2 is responsible for all the evils of the world. Maybe it's the nation's smallest IQ state. Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2013 07:16 AM (aaFao)

Oh behalf of Providence College, and specifically the History Department, of which I am an alumnus, I apologize for Patrick Kennedy and Janeane Garofalo.

It makes me question my own education....

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 21, 2013 03:37 AM (sbV1u)

90 I have never lived in a tornado prone area. I would have thought the schools were the safest, best built structures--or is it that nothing would've withstood the force of the tornado that struck?
Posted by: Dish

I had heard these were F4 and F5 tornados. Most things could be built to withstand on of these to come by in the area, but not take a direct hit.

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2013 03:38 AM (1aiPM)

91 "Arch criminal Holder has prosecuted more leakers under WWI espionage acts than ALL other AGs combined. And they all complained about Nixon? WaEx thinks there has been a LOT of news blocked in this most Â“transparentÂ” administration ever.

http://is.gd/fLdtYV

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 06:57 AM (53z96)
===========

The 'Stache brought up a good point on this yesterday: Who were the people prosecuted and what were they prosecuted for? I'm pretty sure that if some member of the media is willing to risk being charged with "Conspiracy to Commit Journalism" they would find out that these prosecutions were politically motivated and had little, if anything, to do with national security.

It really irritates me that these crooks are misusing the law. The Espionage Act? Really? That requires passing national security information to a foreign power- what journalist has done that? If a government insider does it then fine, but here's a newsflash for you Steadman: journalists, especially American journalists, are NOT a "foreign power".

Posted by: Nighthawk at May 21, 2013 03:39 AM (OtQXp)

92 Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 07:34 AM (hO8IJ)

What a sham. I used to live not far from that place. And didn't even know it was there until I moved to here in SC.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 03:39 AM (53z96)

93 None of these pols want to face the fact that the globe isn't warming.

In a few years they're going to be facing a wall of colder temperatures with 'IDIOT' written on it, and they'll insist they never advocated any such thing.

Posted by: zsasz at May 21, 2013 03:40 AM (MMC8r)

94 It must be the Â“abused wife syndromeÂ”. http://is.gd/3aSuVZ Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 06:58 AM (53z96) After all this time, I would say Stockholm Syndrome.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 03:40 AM (XYSwB)

95 Chesapeake Energy, evil oil company headquartered in OKC donated $1,000,000 and is organizing its employees to aid in cleanup. Contrast that with grinding up eagles in your green windmills. Tornado in Moore was on the ground for 40 minutes, it was a mile wide, and estimates say that 30 square miles of devastation will remain in its wake just in Moore.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at May 21, 2013 03:40 AM (rklUu)

96 My plan would be the 2-10-20. 2% national sales tax. 10% tax rate for incoms up to 35k 20% tax rate for income above 35k Get rid of most if not all deductions. With this plan you could file your taxes on the back of a napkin and fire at least 1/2 of the IRS.

Posted by: kreplach at May 21, 2013 03:41 AM (CofEF)

97 @32 So the Japanese exercise their right to disarm bears?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 21, 2013 03:41 AM (pxDth)

98 26 The word of today is Â“GOP OverreachÂ”. The MFM can not defend Obama so they attack the GOP for not being silent while criminals in the WH run amuck. Even as Obama shits on the press a lot of them still canÂ’t help but felate him. It must be the Â“abused wife syndromeÂ”.

http://is.gd/3aSuVZ

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 06:58 AM (53z96)

He works hard and he's been very tense. If we're all just quiet around him he won't get upset with us. Besides, the sex is great.

Posted by: The MSM at May 21, 2013 03:43 AM (phVWq)

99 I had heard these were F4 and F5 tornados. Most things could be built to withstand on of these to come by in the area, but not take a direct hit.

I was reading about historical tornadoes last night; a hundred years ago the death toll would have been about ten times higher. We've come a long way; sadly we will never be perfect. (Particularly if we keep shutting down the heavy industries that produce the building materials to "save the planet" *cough cough*)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 03:44 AM (hO8IJ)

100 It makes me question my own education....

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 21, 2013 07:37 AM (sbV1u)

As a fellow alumnus of Steny *hawwwwrrrkkk* Hoyer *spit*, we all have our education crosses to bear...

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2013 03:44 AM (aaFao)

101 #90 Understood, but I guess I thought that all schools in tornado prone areas would have underground shelters.

I've had an irrational fear of tornados (and flying monkeys) since I saw the "Wizard of Oz" as a child... today, maybe not so irrational.

Posted by: Dish of Red at May 21, 2013 03:45 AM (Dmq63)

102 IRS went after 83 year old grandmother. Republicans need to roll her out at the next hearing just like the Obamanites always do. http://is.gd/mRjmbU Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 06:58 AM (53z96) She sounds like a typical Tea Party supporter. A good citizen. Amazing. Did the IRS go after the "Coffee Party" delinquents? nah...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 03:45 AM (XYSwB)

103 I had heard these were F4 and F5 tornados. Most things could be built to withstand on of these to come by in the area, but not take a direct hit.

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2013 07:38 AM (1aiPM)

We had buildings built to withstand them and even exterior tanks that would take the wind, but probably not the missile hazards.

But that kind of construction is incredibly expensive.

One other point on the Fujita(?) scale. It is classified based on damage done and the official classification can not be made until after the fact and someone official inspects damage.

It is a piss-poor rating system.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 03:46 AM (53z96)

104 I would have thought the schools were the safest, best built structures--or is it that nothing would've withstood the force of the tornado that struck? It's early in the reporting process, and much to discover, but I specifically heard a law enforcement or fireman refer to children drowning. Not an exact quote but as in 'we recovered three children's bodies which drowned and there's more in there'. Made me go 'wtf'.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 21, 2013 03:47 AM (U2UQk)

105 All I can think of are the parents of those children. All of the questions and guilt they will carry. The pure pain of losing a child.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 07:24 AM (XYSwB)

Later today, we are in for a round of similar, but decidedly gentler, weather from the same system. I have to wonder how many parents are keeping their children home today because they themselves are scared.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 21, 2013 03:48 AM (Gkhxf)

106 Posted by: kreplach at May 21, 2013 07:41 AM (CofEF)

That is way too high; way way too high.

I say 10% flat tax on all income regardless of source, no deductions no floors. And limit federal spending to revenues collected the year before except in case of a declared war.

The federal government immediately commence selling off land in the West to pay down national debt.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 03:49 AM (53z96)

107 59 Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at May 21, 2013 07:16 AM (zZJJp) Not being glib at all. I think perhaps in an altered reality, the American people can be considered the bear. We just want to be left alone, but once we've tasted the blood of truth - i.e. all the corruption and the MFM suppression of truth, it is we who the govt./leftists must destroy because we now know too much and will endanger them. It kind of cuts both ways to my way of thinking, but your point is certainly taken, and I wholeheartedly concur.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2013 03:50 AM (+98Gb)

108

All of this talk about some politically motivated IRS scandal must stop.

Sincerely yours,

Union affiliated IRS agent

PS: We are watching.

Posted by: Drider at May 21, 2013 03:52 AM (Af9rx)

109 96 My plan would be the 2-10-20. 2% national sales tax. 10% tax rate for incoms up to 35k 20% tax rate for income above 35k Get rid of most if not all deductions. With this plan you could file your taxes on the back of a napkin and fire at least 1/2 of the IRS. Posted by: kreplach at May 21, 2013 07:41 AM (CofEF) But, but, but... fairness! And social justice! And redistribution! And goniffing!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2013 03:52 AM (+98Gb)

110 Kan wee hazz nashinell tacks revalooshin???!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2013 03:52 AM (+98Gb)

111 Oh, one other thing I thought would be obvious but I didn't say it. Get rid of ALL credits as well.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 03:53 AM (53z96)

112 As a fellow alumnus of Steny *hawwwwrrrkkk* Hoyer *spit*, we all have our education crosses to bear...
Posted by: Captain Hate

Jon Stewart is my fellow alum. OTOH, so is Bob Gates.

Posted by: pep at May 21, 2013 03:54 AM (YXmuI)

113 Vic comes throught this morning better than a lousy leftist newspaper editor ever could. What say we crowd-source $660 million and buy him the LAT?

Posted by: MTF at May 21, 2013 03:54 AM (66zNN)

114 What is it about the nation's smallest state that they elect clueless soaks like Patches Kennedy and this fucking turd who believes that the magical compound CO2 is responsible for all the evils of the world. Maybe it's the nation's smallest IQ state. Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2013 07:16 AM (aaFao)

I don't think they are clueless. I think the things they do are calculated. They know the media and their colleagues on the same side of the aisle will never criticize them, so they say things like this hoping to get to at least one voter. This is all about politics. They play by different rules than we do. We are civilized. They are opportunistic.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 21, 2013 03:54 AM (Gkhxf)

115 Vic, I agree. All tax credits and varying rates must go away.

For too long the tax code has been used by politicians for social engineering.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 03:55 AM (GoIUi)

116 Posted by: MTF at May 21, 2013 07:54 AM (66zNN)

Oh no; I would have to move back to CA and even worse, to LA! No deal.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 03:55 AM (53z96)

117 Here's a comment about the seven children who died of drowning... 'Firstly, those poor children did not drown in a swimming pool, but a "pool of water". The roof collapsed on them and the water mains broke.' Daily Mail link http://preview.tinyurl.com/kjm8wl6

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 21, 2013 03:56 AM (U2UQk)

118 I had heard these were F4 and F5 tornados. Most things could be built to withstand on of these to come by in the area, but not take a direct hit.

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2013 07:38 AM (1aiPM)

Our school district has a FEMA-approved tornado safe room. However beyond EF-3, you are on your own. You could probably build one that could withstand more, but it would be prohibitively expensive. This one holds 1000 people and cost $2 million.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 21, 2013 03:57 AM (Gkhxf)

119

Vic comes throught this morning better than a lousy leftist newspaper editor ever could. What say we crowd-source $660 million and buy him the LAT?

I'd kick $1000 in in a heartbeat if it were possible.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 21, 2013 03:57 AM (zF6Iw)

120 @106 I too would like to have a single tax rate but I think the 2 rates are a good compromise from the current 7. Every bracket would see a massive tax break except for the bottom. I definately like the suggestion that the federal government sell its land holdings to pay off the debt.

Posted by: kreplach at May 21, 2013 03:57 AM (74T7W)

121 Damn I could have gone all day w/o reading that.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 03:57 AM (53z96)

122 The children who drowned were in the basement, the building collapsed on them, and with torrential rain and broken water pipes, the water got too deep. As for storm shelters in schools, Oklahoma is just like every where else, some schools are older and need to be retrofitted with shelters. Usually a basement is the best place to be during a tornado, but, this time it went horribly and tragically wrong.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at May 21, 2013 03:57 AM (rklUu)

123

This kind of shit calls for us to send a silver-headed gutta-percha cane to the OK congress delegation to apply proper decorum to this worthless SOB.

(BTW I have already searched Amazon to find one for Trey Gowdy but they are not to be had there. Besides, I am worried about the price)

A cane made from American White Ash will do just nicely, thank you very much!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 21, 2013 03:58 AM (jz0+s)

124 Violate either the Migratory Bird Treaty Act or the Eagle Protection Act, and you could get fined up to $250,000 or get two years imprisonment. Not a single wind farm operator has yet been prosecuted for killing birds.

http://t.co/xWOvtVDgeV

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 03:58 AM (hO8IJ)

125

Fast and Furious @ Breitbart Re: Dodson the atf whistlblower.

(Burke U.S Attorney)In addition to BurkeÂ’s involvement in leaking the document, emails the IG uncovered show senior officials at the Department of Justice discussed smearing Dodson.

One of those was Tracy Schmaler, the Director of the DepartmentÂ’s Office of Public Affairs, who resigned her position at the DOJ after emails uncovered through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request showed that

{she worked with leftwing advocacy group Media Matters for America to smear whistleblowers and members of Congress}

and the media who sought to investigate DOJ scandals under Attorney General Eric Holde

Posted by: willow at May 21, 2013 03:58 AM (nqBYe)

126

I don't think they are clueless. I think the things they do are calculated. They know the media and their colleagues on the same side of the aisle will never criticize them

Neither will their "colleagues" on the other side of the aisle. All because of precious *spit* "comity.

so they say things like this hoping to get to at least one voter. This is all about politics. They play by different rules than we do. We are civilized. They are opportunistic.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 21, 2013 07:54 AM (Gkhxf)

And being civilized has got us marginalized, attacked, investigated and daamn near criminalized. I'm sick and tired of being civilized. I want blood.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 21, 2013 03:59 AM (zF6Iw)

127 116 Posted by: MTF at May 21, 2013 07:54 AM (66zNN) Oh no; I would have to move back to CA and even worse, to LA! No deal. Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 07:55 AM (53z96) Yup, LA it would have to be, but you get a video as part of the deal at no extra cost that the President will pay you millions not to show anyone else. Did I say "millions"? I meant "many millions".

Posted by: MTF at May 21, 2013 03:59 AM (66zNN)

128 A cane made from American White Ash will do just nicely, thank you very much!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 21, 2013 07:58 AM (jz0+s)

There is historical significance to the gutta-percha cane. Most politicians would immediately recognize it.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 03:59 AM (53z96)

129 fixin italians.

Posted by: [/s][/b]jwb7605 ([i][u]Let it Burn[/u][/i]) at May 21, 2013 04:00 AM (Qxe/p)

130 I was reading about historical tornadoes last night; a hundred years ago the death toll would have been about ten times higher. We've come a long way; sadly we will never be perfect. (Particularly if we keep shutting down the heavy industries that produce the building materials to "save the planet" *cough cough*)

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 07:44 AM (hO8IJ)

Our school shelter was delayed by over 6 months because a certain administration ordered that all pre-fab concrete materials (such as are used in its construction) be diverted to stimulus projects in the year before the election. I'm sure it was just a coincidence.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 21, 2013 04:00 AM (Gkhxf)

131 Poppins ----> BARREL!

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 04:00 AM (GoIUi)

132 I really love coming here when I get to work. A little bit of hate, a little bit of politics, a little bit of news.

Oh. And the 'ettes.

But mostly the 'ettes.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at May 21, 2013 04:00 AM (fwARV)

133

thought I closed that tag. Time for tea.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 21, 2013 04:00 AM (zF6Iw)

134 71 >> My only reform suggestion for government agencies, if we cannot get abolishment, is to REQUIRE all federal agencies hire from 2 labor pools, Republican and democrat. Each party would provide a list of names and hiring would have to come from each pool in equal numbers.

Wow Mrs. Marple, what a great suggestion! I mean that too. Sure, I want the IRS and EPA and Dept. of Ed completely abolished, but there are some essential gubmint functions that are needed. How better to ensure even handed treatment than to make sure both sides are equally represented in number.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 21, 2013 04:00 AM (ccXZP)

135

Posted by: Anthony L. at May 21, 2013 04:00 AM (bl6Iq)

136 ♪♫Zing Boom Tararrel♪♫

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 04:00 AM (hO8IJ)

137 #122 Oh dear God, I hadn't heard anything about drownings. Water mains, rain...

Posted by: Dish of Red at May 21, 2013 04:01 AM (Dmq63)

138 barrel

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 04:01 AM (53z96)

139 I'm sure it was just a coincidence.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 21, 2013 08:00 AM (Gkhxf)

It was irrelavent

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 04:02 AM (53z96)

140 You know, if we ever got really mean, the democrats would be terrified.

When those GOP voters started banging on the doors of that room where they were going to do their secret recount down in Florida in 2000, they did not know what to do.

They had never seen demonstrators with matching shoes and handbags, or coats and ties.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 04:02 AM (GoIUi)

141 http://t.co/xWOvtVDgeV Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 07:58 AM (hO8IJ) yup I saw a clip where a bird was sliced by one of those wind machines. It was sick. I never got the image out of my head.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 04:02 AM (XYSwB)

142 Mary Poppin's tea? No , No time for barrel, hands over the scrub brush.

Posted by: willow at May 21, 2013 04:03 AM (nqBYe)

143

"I would have thought the schools were the safest, best built structures--or is it that nothing would've withstood the force of the tornado that struck?"

I believe schools (and other public buildings) are exempt from most building codes. Schools are the epicenter of corruption when it comes to substandard materials and building practices, due to the lack of accountablity.

Posted by: jwest at May 21, 2013 04:04 AM (u2a4R)

144 140 You know, if we ever got really mean, the democrats would be terrified. When those GOP voters started banging on the doors of that room where they were going to do their secret recount down in Florida in 2000, they did not know what to do. They had never seen demonstrators with matching shoes and handbags, or coats and ties. Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 08:02 AM (GoIUi) Remember when the senior citizens marched on DC in the late 90's and pounded on Dan Rostenkowski's car? Good times.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2013 04:05 AM (+98Gb)

145

Another natural disaster gets Obama's ass out of a sling?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:05 AM (wbmaj)

146 Just out of curiosity, I wonder what the average application pendency for the various Occupy groups was? To paraphrase the Shrill One, what difference at this point does it make, our President is not only spying on his own citizens, but lying about being a moron to cover it up. And the bad emporer train continues to pick up steam ....

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 21, 2013 04:05 AM (bS6uW)

147 #1 Does bipolar count?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:06 AM (wbmaj)

148 They had never seen demonstrators with matching shoes and handbags, or coats and ties.

Snuck right up on 'em...no advance warning stench.

I hope we get some good protests today.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 04:06 AM (hO8IJ)

149 #143 No, schools are not exempt from building codes, except perhaps in deep blue cities.

My father used to work as a construction superintendent for a builder who did schools, and they had to follow code on everything. Plus there are also requirements above and beyond.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 04:06 AM (GoIUi)

150 I believe schools (and other public buildings) are exempt from most building codes. Schools are the epicenter of corruption when it comes to substandard materials and building practices, due to the lack of accountablity.

Posted by: jwest at May 21, 2013 08:04 AM (u2a4R)

There may be places where that's true but not here. We have to adhere to all codes no matter how silly.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 21, 2013 04:06 AM (Gkhxf)

151 I believe schools (and other public buildings) are exempt from most building codes. *** Really?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 21, 2013 04:06 AM (pxDth)

152 To quote Casey Kasem: "Okay, I want a g-ddamn concerted effort to be made."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2013 04:07 AM (+98Gb)

153 You know, if we ever got really mean, the democrats would be terrified. Hell, look how terrified they were (and still are) of the Tea Party? Remember how hard the media tried to suppress and lie about the sheer number of those that marched on that famous day? Decent, clean and civil folks walked over Washington and scared the sh*t out of both the GOP and the Democrats. Hence, the JEF tries to shut them down with all of his illegal force.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 04:07 AM (XYSwB)

154 There is another story out saying a DOJ Attorney General in Arozona retaliated against the "Fast and Furious" whistleblower. It came from an internal investigation, apparently. What this and the IRS IG report shows is that even in the face of enormous Progressive group-think, that internal affairs units can work to bring to light malfeasance, and thus there is potential that a more robust expansion of the concept, with greater independence and less ability for other branches to interfere and prevent oversight, might have merit if it can be prevented from being as biased as the "news" media are.

Posted by: T. at May 21, 2013 04:07 AM (zMzEL)

155 147 #1 Does bipolar count? Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 08:06 AM (wbmaj) No. It doesn't start with an "M."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2013 04:07 AM (+98Gb)

156 #Okay. I'll go with maniacal.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:08 AM (wbmaj)

157 No, schools are not exempt from building codes, except perhaps in deep blue cities. Besides, what sick workers would purposely build a defunct building that houses children?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 04:08 AM (XYSwB)

158 Bacon Rest? I smell Muslim complaining.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 21, 2013 04:09 AM (wR+pz)

159

Haven't checked in for a bit, so it may have already been covered, but is everyone OK from the tornadoes?

/prayers

Posted by: Bigby's Hearty Handshake at May 21, 2013 04:09 AM (3ZtZW)

160 At our house we have started referring to the current administration as "Dork Dynasty"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 21, 2013 04:09 AM (pxDth)

161 I hope we get some good protests today.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 08:06 AM (hO8IJ)

=========

The protesters should all show up wearing Richard Nixon masks.

Posted by: Nighthawk at May 21, 2013 04:09 AM (OtQXp)

162 Tornadoes= Hurricane Sandy II?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:09 AM (wbmaj)

163 Wow. Radio says tornado was 2 miles wide and on the ground for 40 minutes.

Posted by: zsasz at May 21, 2013 04:10 AM (MMC8r)

164 Chris Christie and Obama to tour ravaged areas of Oklahoma-arm in arm.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:10 AM (wbmaj)

165 Regarding what jwest said, I did some contract work for the DoD in the old fed building in Cleveland and it was a fucking HVAC nightmare which OSHA would've shut down if it existed in the private sector.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2013 04:10 AM (aaFao)

166 Have there been reports of looting? I didn't think so.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:10 AM (wbmaj)

167 Remember when those wimpy, preppy GOP monitors chanted "Let us in" during the Bush / Gore recount? You'd have thought we'd physically struck them or something the way they overreacted ... the GOP wimps were like, "hey, we really need to talk to you and be a part f this process," and the Demonrats were all, "stop it, you're hurting my wrist!" Pre-teen chicks having a slap fight bring more to a dust up than the political class.

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 21, 2013 04:11 AM (bS6uW)

168 More whistleblowers will emerge shortly in the escalating Benghazi scandal, according to two former U.S. diplomats who spoke with PJ Media Monday afternoon. These whistleblowers, colleagues of the former diplomats, are currently securing legal counsel because they work in areas not fully protected by the Whistleblower law. According to the diplomats, what these whistleblowers will say will be at least as explosive as what we have already learned about the scandal, including details about what really transpired in Benghazi that are potentially devastating to both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. awesome drudge link to pj media

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 04:11 AM (XYSwB)

169 on the Union tip. The idiot Union that I'm in was SHOCKED JUST FUCKING SHOCKED about the "gold plated" tax thing and were very upset during our recent contract negotiations. fucking retards

Posted by: Zakn at May 21, 2013 04:11 AM (zyaZ1)

170 Obama to fly into Oklahoma in 3...2...1

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:11 AM (wbmaj)

171 Obama will announce that tornado victims will have 60-day stay on their audits.

Media will applaud.

Posted by: zsasz at May 21, 2013 04:11 AM (MMC8r)

172 #161 The protests at the IRS should be re-scheduled. It is going to be all-tornado today on TV and they will get no coverage except "insensitive given the tragedy" comments.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 04:12 AM (GoIUi)

173 Chris Christie and Obama to tour ravaged areas of Oklahoma-arm in arm. Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 08:10 AM (wbmaj) SCoaMF Uses Christie as Anchor Against High Winds

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 04:12 AM (XYSwB)

174 Besides, what sick workers would purposely build a defunct building that houses children?

China.
http://is.gd/sYB1Ue

We're better than that over here, even though that makes jwest and SCOAMF sad.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 04:12 AM (hO8IJ)

175 Me: Obama seeks shelter from scandals by talkikng about tornadoes.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:12 AM (wbmaj)

176

"I believe schools (and other public buildings) are exempt from most building codes."

Federal projects are exempt:

"...federal projects are exempt from local land use regulations and building permit requirements. The concept of federal exemption from state and local regulations is based on the supremacy clause of the U.S. Constitution."

There was something I remember about schools being exempt too, due to something along the same lines. Not positive, but I'll look deeper later on.

Posted by: jwest at May 21, 2013 04:13 AM (u2a4R)

177 Were the tornadoes caused by global warming or the sequester?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:13 AM (wbmaj)

178 Oh, and piss on Lizz Winstead.

Posted by: zsasz at May 21, 2013 04:13 AM (MMC8r)

179 I believe schools (and other public buildings) are
exempt from most building codes. Schools are the epicenter of corruption
when it comes to substandard materials and building practices, due to
the lack of accountablity.

Federal buildings are legally exempt from state building codes, but there are national codes they follow. They still try to meet the regional codes that impact safety. I highly doubt that schools of all things are not subject to building codes. There is plenty of corruption in the bidding process though.

Posted by: no good deed at May 21, 2013 04:13 AM (mjR67)

180 If it needs repeating, I shall do so again: jwest is a troll. You can't take anything he says at face value.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 21, 2013 04:14 AM (BeSEI)

181 Illegal alien felons freed by ICE tdue to sequester cuts o help with Oklahoma re-building effort.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:14 AM (wbmaj)

182

>>Were the tornadoes caused by global warming or the sequester?

Political overreach. They're already irrelevant.

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 21, 2013 04:15 AM (bS6uW)

183 #180 And jwest is a piece of shit.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:15 AM (wbmaj)

184 #182 They happened a long time ago.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:15 AM (wbmaj)

185 Were the GOP tornadoes caused by global warming or the sequester?

Refer to your stylebook, please.

Posted by: AP at May 21, 2013 04:15 AM (MMC8r)

186 Oklahoma to distraught Oklahoma residents: "There, there."

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:16 AM (wbmaj)

187 re the unions starting to hate OCare -- DAve had a post the other night in the ONT wherein he said that he received a letter/e,ail from his CA teachers union asking members to call/write their congresscritters demanding the repeal of OCare.

I dunno if that is BS or not; I sure would love to see a copy of that letter.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 21, 2013 04:16 AM (ccXZP)

188 Vic, I have to agree about Amazon's scifi section. I am not sure that whoever edits it knows the difference of sct fi and horror.

Posted by: FCF at May 21, 2013 04:17 AM (Khja4)

189 #186 Take two: Obama to distraught Oklahoma residents: "There, there." Whew.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:17 AM (wbmaj)

190 Do read the PJM piece. It's juicy. http://tinyurl.com/kyppowy And, very sad. The former diplomat who spoke with PJ Media regarded the whole enterprise as totally amateurish and likened it to the Mike Nichols film Charlie WilsonÂ’s War about a clueless congressman who supplies Stingers to the Afghan guerrillas. Â“ItÂ’s as if Hillary and the others just watched that movie and said Â‘Hey, letÂ’s do that!Â’Â” the diplomat said.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 04:17 AM (XYSwB)

191 Even in SC school must be built to commercial code standards+ and we are not even a "code State".

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 04:17 AM (53z96)

192 I think the protests should go on. Some people will say the protesters are insensitive regardless. I think protests should be planned every month will huge ones around the 4th of July because there will always be something that Obama will try to use as a distraction. The tornadoes in OK are a tragedy and I pray for the families and for the responders. I hope people give to charitable organization, but it is possible to be concerned about OK and also concerned about the IRS overreach

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 21, 2013 04:17 AM (pthep)

193 * crickets *

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 21, 2013 04:17 AM (GQ72I)

194

I hope we get some good protests today.

**pokes head out of barrel**

I hope any provocateurs are identified as such, forced in the face of the MFM and then given a Teamster-style beatdown. Otherwise, it's the whole John Conyers mess all over again.

**drops back into barrel** My eyes! The goggles - they do nothing!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 21, 2013 04:18 AM (zF6Iw)

195 Besides, what sick workers would purposely build a defunct building that houses children? Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 08:08 AM (XYSwB) Once upon a time I lived near a nuclear power plant. The plant took several extra years to go online because there was a labor dispute in the middle of construction and it turned out that workers were intentionally sabotaging portions of the containment building. Yeah. Our school district has a FEMA-approved tornado safe room. However beyond EF-3, you are on your own. You could probably build one that could withstand more, but it would be prohibitively expensive. This one holds 1000 people and cost $2 million. Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 21, 2013 07:57 AM (Gkhxf) I don't even pretend to be a structural engineer online but it's always been my impression that once you get into the F4 and F5 range, there's not really anything that can be built to withstand that. Nature is always, always, always going to win. In further cheerful news, it's going to be horrifying when New Madrid finally goes off again and all those lovely old brick buildings in Nashville and the environs come crashing down. I know that the newer buildings are being built to earthquake standards but the old ones weren't. Same thing up in the Cascadia area. Blessed Mother Gaia views us as ants that she will wipe off the face of the planet at her whim. Well. Aren't I a ray of sunshine?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 21, 2013 04:18 AM (VtjlW)

196

Question to Hillary: Do you know how many were killed in Oklahoma?

Hillary: (rising feigned anger): What difference does it make?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:19 AM (wbmaj)

197 It sounds like the IRS protests are already starting here in DC (14th and Constitution).

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at May 21, 2013 04:19 AM (fwARV)

198 'Mornin. What fresh hell will this day bring?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 21, 2013 04:19 AM (BAS5M)

199 Al Gore to go on Al Jazerra to blame tornadoes on global warming (fuck it, I will not use "climate change"), in 3...2...1...

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:20 AM (wbmaj)

200 166 >> Have there been reports of looting? I didn't think so.

Yes, there were reports of looters at the medical center. Probably druggies hoping to score some hospital grade pharmaceuticals.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 21, 2013 04:20 AM (ccXZP)

201 I remember my daughter getting pissed at me when I referred to the area she moved to as 'tornado alley'. It's in the corner of it. She didn't stay pissed long. At a neighborhood get-together every one of her neighbors had a story to tell about a tornado sometime in their life. She began to take the threat seriously. Last year an EF1 touched down within a mile of her, a quick hit and run, which took the second story off a solitary home, then disappeared. Her weather radio and local sirens never made a peep.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 21, 2013 04:20 AM (U2UQk)

202 Goddammit, I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express again last night and I still can't spel.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:21 AM (wbmaj)

203 172 #161 The protests at the IRS should be re-scheduled. It is going to be all-tornado today on TV and they will get no coverage except "insensitive given the tragedy" comments. Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 08:12 AM (GoIUi) My local newspaper online has been pretty much ignoring the scandals. I've been posting lots of links to news stories in the comments. The lefties are howling. I'm intolerant, radical, racist, teathug, teabilly, teabagger, fascist, and Nazi, among others. It's actually a lot of fun.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at May 21, 2013 04:21 AM (JQuNB)

204 Good morning Morons & Moronettes. Hug your kids a little longer today.

Posted by: Big Old Fat Guy at May 21, 2013 04:21 AM (Je/il)

205 #200 I heard they were bussed in from New Orleans.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:22 AM (wbmaj)

206 I don't even pretend to be a structural engineer online but it's always been my impression that once you get into the F4 and F5 range, there's not really anything that can be built to withstand that. Nature is always, always, always going to win.

As I said, ours was built to take that but it is horrendously expensive (one of the things that drives up the cost of building a plant)

But the winds themselves are not the hazard in heavy concrete structures. It is the wind driven missile hazards. A telephone pole coming in at 100 mph does some serious shit.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 04:22 AM (53z96)

207 No wonder Shrillary resigned.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 04:22 AM (XYSwB)

208 Gutta Percha is a Brazilian wood. I think a near-death beating with something domestic is fitting! Plus, you assume our congress critters know anything' about history, Vic!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 21, 2013 04:22 AM (jz0+s)

209 It sounds like the IRS protests are already starting here in DC (14th and Constitution). Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at May 21, 2013 08:19 AM (fwARV) Really? Hmmm. I'm by 18th and G. Maybe I'll wander by the White House and see if anything is going on.

Posted by: Mainah at May 21, 2013 04:22 AM (659DL)

210 Do read the PJM piece. It's juicy.

http://tinyurl.com/kyppowy

And, very sad.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 08:17 AM (XYSwB)

Every time I read this kind of piece, I automatically discount any revelations by 75% of what they claim. Not that long ago, Beck supposedly had "the goods" on Obama over one of these scandals. You see how that went.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 21, 2013 04:22 AM (Gkhxf)

211 Haley Barbour on Fox saying they will have to have a special prosecutor. He said that the administration will resist and resist, but eventually they are going to have to do it.

I, of course, do not think Holder will ever appoint one. He wouldn't do it even if there was a threat of impeachment of him. This is a Chicago mob, and they are not going to do one thing to give an investigation a chance.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 04:22 AM (GoIUi)

212 IRS Scandal: 42 percent instead see full transparency. That's the new, improved transparency. Revisionism's latest. Not so "new". Yes, the scandal is obvious, so that's transparent governance. Deal with it, buck up. Predictable, "getting what you deserve" -- unconstitutional governance. It's what authoritarians do best. All in the name of "efficiency; it's for your own good, for the children." Transparent Corruption. It's what fuels global corporatism. As for efficiency? Not in domestic governance; only efficient in corruption. It's hog wild piracy. This opposite game, a perpetual exercise in futility, quit being boring a long time ago. Our politicians represent Insanity, spawned by those who force corruption against integrity, the highest bidders being global corporatists. US Constitution? Wilson with his League of Beasts gone UN made it abundantly clear. OUTMODED. No. Garbage is outmoded. Clear off the rubbish. Gangrene requires surgical amputation before the blood poisoning kills the entire body. The prototype is still there, intact beneath the layers of constriction. The Constitution yet functions in the hearts and the minds of American patriots and those who press for Liberty around the world. Idea determines form. The US Constitution and Bill of Rights require no conversion into the swill of corruption in order to be tolerable. Authoritarians deceive for power to abuse propagandizing to "keep us safe". As if we're safe from THAT governance. Rather, We The People demand simplicity, balance and integrity, that we are ALL equal under the Supreme Law of the Land. TOP DOWN PROSECUTION: Timing is crucial. Amputate the gangrene immediately. The IRS is outmoded. That is transparently OBVIOUS. The entire IRS bureaucracy is completely outdated, and a rotting cancer with festered, tumors erupting throughout our nation, infestation instructed and enabled by the very top officials. There is no policy implemented without specific authorization and directive from the top. To say otherwise requires a willing suspension of logic. (To require a "willing suspension of disbelief" is to force one to swallow anything, sucker. "I refuse to disbelieve a lie.") This "developed" nation does not require the old fashioned bean counting data entry IRS employees. Misery loves company, and that job sucks the life right out of you. The administrators are obligated, willingly and enthusiastically, to the worst abusers of human rights, bent on destroying constitutional governance, in favor of authoritarianism that makes their positions all the more "comfortable" as taskmasters of the taxpaying serfs. Never collect from corporatist owners and board members, each owing billions of dollars in unpaid taxes. It's so much easier to kick over the defenseless anthills when you can destroy opposition without bearing detrimental consequences yourself. Meanwhile, enjoy the applause from the corporatists sucking our dry bones drier yet. Ash to ash, dust to dust. On to fresh meat, each generation.

Posted by: Transparent Corporatist Feudalism at May 21, 2013 04:22 AM (MhA4j)

213 165 Regarding what jwest said, I did some contract work for the DoD in the old fed building in Cleveland and it was a fucking HVAC nightmare which OSHA would've shut down if it existed in the private sector. Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2013 08:10 AM (aaFao) Ugh. You reminded me. I worked in a government building where you couldn't open windows. They would idle diesel machinery next to the building's air intakes, for hours sometimes. It was like working in a gas chamber.

Posted by: real joe at May 21, 2013 04:23 AM (PD2ad)

214 My local newspaper online has been pretty much ignoring the scandals. I've been posting lots of links to news stories in the comments. The lefties are howling. I'm intolerant, radical, racist, teathug, teabilly, teabagger, fascist, and Nazi, among others. It's actually a lot of fun. Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at May 21, 2013 08:21 AM (JQuNB) hehe keep it up

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 04:23 AM (XYSwB)

215 Jay Carney: If it weren't for the sequester cuts, NOAA could have done a better job warning Oklahoma residents of the danger caused by huge tornadoes. Republicans have blood on their hands.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:23 AM (wbmaj)

216 Kreplach let me tell you about 9-9-9

Posted by: Herman Cain at May 21, 2013 04:24 AM (VrVBw)

217 Every time I read this kind of piece, I automatically discount any revelations by 75% of what they claim. Not that long ago, Beck supposedly had "the goods" on Obama over one of these scandals. You see how that went. Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 21, 2013 08:22 AM (Gkhxf) Beck's initial claim parallels what these diplomats are saying. Yea, they are securing lawyers before speaking. We shall see -- something PJM claims as well. At this point it is all heresay, but they sound like legit sources. Time will tell.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 04:25 AM (XYSwB)

218 Charlie Wilson was mentioned above. He was the congressman in my dad's district. Dad referred to him as "Charlie-boy, *hic* " every time and just shook his head.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at May 21, 2013 04:25 AM (ZXAKQ)

219 This part parallels what Beck was saying: StevensÂ’ mission in Benghazi, they will say, was to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department, not by the CIA. Such a mission would usually be a CIA effort, but the intelligence agency had opposed the idea because of the high risk involved in arming Â“insurgentsÂ” with powerful weapons that endanger civilian aircraft. Hillary Clinton still wanted to proceed because, in part, as one of the diplomats said, she wanted Â“to overthrow Gaddafi on the cheap.Â” This left Stevens in the position of having to clean up the scandalous enterprise when it became clear that the Â“insurgentsÂ” actually were al-Qaeda Â– indeed, in the view of one of the diplomats, the same group that attacked the consulate and ended up killing Stevens.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 04:26 AM (XYSwB)

220

Alinskyite lesson for the day:

Sequester cuts=limited tornado warnings=death and destruction=Republicans.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:26 AM (wbmaj)

221 211 which is why Holder must be impeached sooner than later. The catalytic avalanche of evidence...

Posted by: Transparent Corporatist Feudalism at May 21, 2013 04:26 AM (MhA4j)

222 Really? Hmmm. I'm by 18th and G. Maybe I'll wander by the White House and see if anything is going on.

Posted by: Mainah at May 21, 2013 08:22 AM (659DL)

I think it's going to be a the IRS building. There are a ton of cops at 14th and Const. and people have just been laying on their car horns.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at May 21, 2013 04:27 AM (fwARV)

223 The former diplomat who spoke with PJ Media regarded the whole enterprise as totally amateurish and likened it to the Mike Nichols film Charlie WilsonÂ’s War about a clueless congressman who supplies Stingers to the Afghan guerrillas. Â“ItÂ’s as if Hillary and the others just watched that movie and said Â‘Hey, letÂ’s do that!Â’Â” the diplomat said.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 08:17 AM (XYSwB)

But but but but....FALSIFIED EMAILS!!!11!1

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2013 04:27 AM (aaFao)

224 Well. Aren't I a ray of sunshine?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 21, 2013 08:18 AM (VtjlW)

Meh. It's part of your charm.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at May 21, 2013 04:28 AM (fwARV)

225 It's like Fast and Furious on steroids.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 04:28 AM (XYSwB)

226 Fourth Virginia Please don't make stuff up without indicating it is sarcasm.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 21, 2013 04:29 AM (U2UQk)

227 Will Obama bring Gabby Giffords along when he tours Oklahoma? I mean why let a good natural disaster go to waste when you can be pushing your radical gun control policies at the same time.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:30 AM (wbmaj)

228 >> Gutta Percha is a Brazilian wood.

It usually refers to a hard natural rubber made from latex sap from the same named tree.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 21, 2013 04:30 AM (ccXZP)

229 225 with many more bureau scandals to come

Posted by: Transparent Corporatist Feudalism at May 21, 2013 04:30 AM (MhA4j)

230 Gutta Percha is a Brazilian wood. I think a near-death beating with something domestic is fitting! Plus, you assume our congress critters know anything' about history, Vic! Oak or hickory works just fine when combined with a Buford T. Pusser attitude.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2013 04:31 AM (d0Dmj)

231 All the people outside my building just got onto several busses and drove somewhere...

False alarm on the protests?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at May 21, 2013 04:31 AM (fwARV)

232 Re: the sub-human asshole Sheldon Whitehouse

No need to get all fancy with an expensive cane. A good stout length of hickory would do.

Posted by: Stu-22 at May 21, 2013 04:31 AM (k4bdL)

233 #226 Going forward, please assume all of my stuff is made up--it is. It is all sarcasm. I take the truth and twist it to my own ends. Just to make a point.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 04:31 AM (wbmaj)

234 Rules for taxation: Government can not tax your income. Government can not know how much wealth you have. Government can not know what your income is. Government can not know where your income comes from. Start with these rules, if you don't, you will end up right where we are now.

Posted by: eman at May 21, 2013 04:32 AM (SXsuy)

235 Will Obama bring Gabby Giffords along when he tours Oklahoma? I mean why let a good natural disaster go to waste when you can be pushing your radical gun control policies at the same time.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 21, 2013 08:30 AM (wbmaj)

Saint Gabby's dickhole husband must be pretty fucking jealous of all the attention these damn children are taking away from what is rightfully his. I expect a household "accident" to happen soon.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2013 04:33 AM (aaFao)

236

>>>'Mornin. What fresh hell will this day bring?

Protests. At last.

I think everybody is accounted for WRT the tornadoes, too.

Also, hey, baby is now off the canula and out of the box, might be home in 2 weeks.

So not so bad.

Posted by: Bigby's Hearty Handshake at May 21, 2013 04:33 AM (3ZtZW)

237 I have five canes I made from bois d'arc (Osage orange) that I would donate to the cause. Harder than a preacher's dick.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at May 21, 2013 04:34 AM (ZXAKQ)

238 Oak or hickory works just fine when combined with a Buford T. Pusser attitude.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2013 08:31 AM (d0Dmj)

Nothin' like a good piece of hickory.

Posted by: Preacher at May 21, 2013 04:34 AM (BAS5M)

239 Shorter Sheldon Whitehouse: If I mix CH2 with NH4 and boil the atoms in osmotic fog, I should get speckled nitrogen! Anyone who saw the 1940s Donald Duck comic strip from which this came - or used Morrison and Boyd's organic chemistry textbook - knows his nephews' response: He's talking chemical talk! But he knows nothing about chemicals! Any Member of Congress who speaks upon a scientific subject who is not a scientist himself (or herself) should have their idiotic remarks (BIRM) stricken from the record.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars[/b][/i][/s] at May 21, 2013 04:34 AM (u6nf+)

240 As I said, ours was built to take that but it is horrendously expensive (one of the things that drives up the cost of building a plant) But the winds themselves are not the hazard in heavy concrete structures. It is the wind driven missile hazards. A telephone pole coming in at 100 mph does some serious shit. Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 08:22 AM (53z96) I remember watching some show about the construction of nuclear plants and it was amazing the standards to which they were built.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 21, 2013 04:35 AM (VtjlW)

241 @211 Congress could name a special prosecuter that does not have to come from holder. The IRS was created by congress it follows rules and regulations drafted and passed by Congress. It well within congress power to investigate IRS. The question is if these retards have the intestinal fortitude to do it. Will someone find out what bar boener is passed out in and wake him the fuck up!!

Posted by: kreplach at May 21, 2013 04:36 AM (+NYjg)

242 @216 I would train Herman Caine for Obama right about now.

Posted by: kreplach at May 21, 2013 04:37 AM (+NYjg)

243 Morning!

Anyone see that Daily Show scrunt's tweet? Yeah, probably shouldn't unless you want to spend the day planning a homicide.

Posted by: EC at May 21, 2013 04:37 AM (GQ8sn)

244 Last year an EF1 touched down within a mile of her, a quick hit and run, which took the second story off a solitary home, then disappeared. Her weather radio and local sirens never made a peep. Posted by: Regular Moron

I have had this type thing happen twice in the 20 years I have lived here. Some people also call them wind shears. Whatever they are, the 2 times it happened, they came about midnite. The first time it snapped a red oak tree off at the base. Tree was about 100 ft. tall. No rot in the tree at all.
Like you said, no warning, no sirens, BAM, it's here.
I guess that's why we can't understand the yahoos that want to ride out a hurricane.

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2013 04:40 AM (1aiPM)

245 But but but but....FALSIFIED EMAILS!!!11!1 Posted by: Captain Hate Applicable particularly to targeted conservatives being prosecuted as enemies of the state for endorsing Constitutional Governance. And of course, a FOX investigative journalist would be the selected ass/tail surveilled and pinned to a White House leak. No one else would dare to ask a question and follow up for publication on record. Blindfolded justice or simply gag and noose on the Bill of Rights?

Posted by: "Because I Could" at May 21, 2013 04:42 AM (MhA4j)

246 Pray the Obamunists don't win this, and if they do, that it won't take something like this to out-last them: http://preview.tinyurl.com/my4pr3e

Posted by: (testing) Thorvald, IP addy or nic? at May 21, 2013 04:45 AM (M7gmT)

247 And of course, a FOX investigative journalist would be the selected ass/tail surveilled and pinned to a White House leak.

Of course they picked FOX. They're already the black sheep. It's easier to peel them off from the rest of the herd and provide a lesson to the rest of the press corps that they'd better watch their shit.

Posted by: zsasz at May 21, 2013 04:45 AM (MMC8r)

248 Boehner, and the Republican leadership, needs some motivation. Perhaps a session with Matt Foley, Motivational Speaker?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 21, 2013 04:45 AM (BAS5M)

249 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 21, 2013 04:46 AM (/PCJa)

250 I remember watching some show about the construction of nuclear plants and it was amazing the standards to which they were built. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 21, 2013 08:35 AM (VtjlW) And I'm sure by "watching some show" you don't mean "casing"....right?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 04:46 AM (da5Wo)

251 On the IRS:

Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 21, 2013 04:46 AM (/PCJa)

252 Also, hey, baby is now off the canula and out of the box, might be home in 2 weeks.
So not so bad.

Posted by: Bigby's Hearty Handshake at May 21, 2013 08:33 AM (3ZtZW)

That's great news! Glad he's doing better.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 21, 2013 04:47 AM (BAS5M)

253 On a happy note- that execrable "C-SCOPE" curriculum is officially dead in Texas.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 21, 2013 04:47 AM (/PCJa)

254

The lefties are howling. I'm intolerant, radical, racist, teathug, teabilly, teabagger, fascist, and Nazi, among others. It's actually a lot of fun.

You sir, are a great American.

When those GOP voters started banging on the doors of that room where they were going to do their secret recount down in Florida in 2000, they did not know what to do.

They had never seen demonstrators with matching shoes and handbags, or coats and ties.

Kate McMillan (smalldeadanimals dot com):

"Not showing up to riot is a failed conservative policy."

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at May 21, 2013 04:47 AM (BrQrN)

255 fml

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 21, 2013 04:47 AM (BAS5M)

256 BARREL

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 04:47 AM (da5Wo)

257 ahem

Barrel

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 21, 2013 04:47 AM (sbV1u)

258 Posted by: Count de Monet at May 21, 2013 08:47 AM (BAS5M)

You.

Barrel.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 21, 2013 04:48 AM (/PCJa)

259 Wow! Barrel is crowded this morning.

Morning all....

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 21, 2013 04:48 AM (X6akg)

260 Polls show that most Americans don't care about D.C. scandals. They care about the economy which WAS what the GOP was most concerned about before it got better.

Posted by: occam at May 21, 2013 04:48 AM (BrkDN)

261 I'm going in. Someone hold my phone.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 21, 2013 04:49 AM (BAS5M)

262 Parsing... parsing... just waitin' on that blue dress, Barry. http://preview.tinyurl.com/n5ay9tj

Posted by: (testing) Thorvald, IP addy or nic? at May 21, 2013 04:49 AM (M7gmT)

263 They care about the economy which WAS what the GOP was most concerned about before it got better.

Posted by: occam

The Tard is strong in this one.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at May 21, 2013 04:49 AM (BrQrN)

264 So all the hoopla at the end of the day yesterday (in my neck of the woods) amounted to a whole lot of nuthin'. Wind, but that's it.

They're saying today is a better chance for thunder-storms, some severe. Yay.

OK Morons, I'll say it again: shout if you need help, we'll come runnin'.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 21, 2013 04:50 AM (/PCJa)

265 Someone's definition of "better" needs some work.

Okay, off to get coffee.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 21, 2013 04:50 AM (/PCJa)

266 Prayers up for those in the Oklahoma devastation.

Posted by: (testing) Thorvald, IP addy or nic? at May 21, 2013 04:51 AM (M7gmT)

267 Gutta Percha is a Brazilian wood

Incorrect

Gutta-percha (Palaquium) is a genus of tropical trees native to Southeast Asia and northern Australasia, from Taiwan south to the Malay Peninsula and east to the Solomon Islands. The same term is used to refer to an inelastic natural latex produced from the sap of these trees, particularly from the species Palaquium gutta

However, when traveling in Rio de Janiero, Kate Upton creates Brazilian wood.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 21, 2013 04:51 AM (sbV1u)

268 260 Polls show that most Americans don't care about D.C. scandals. They care about the economy which WAS what the GOP was most concerned about before it got better. Posted by: occam at May 21, 2013 08:48 AM (BrkDN) You funee!

Posted by: Margaret Cho at May 21, 2013 04:51 AM (JQuNB)

269 I'm going in. Someone hold my phone. Posted by: Count de Monet at May 21, 2013 08:49 AM (BAS5M)

Can you powerwash it while you're in there? Tobacco Road left it a mess last night.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 21, 2013 04:52 AM (sbV1u)

270 BTW, the nuclear codes to not use the Fujita scale for design criteria. It starts with the 100 year event and works up from there. In our case we were designed for a 300 mph tornado which corresponds roughly to the wind speed estimate of an F-5. I don't recall the design missile hazard but I believe it did involve a telephone pole accelerated to some speed. (working from memory here and it has been a long time)

If the location is in an area which never sees tornadoes they may not have to build to that heavy a design. We have tornadoes.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 04:52 AM (53z96)

271 "I guess that's why we can't understand the yahoos that want to ride out a hurricane."

Especially, given that hurricanes can generate small tornadoes along their bands

Posted by: Jean at May 21, 2013 04:52 AM (CMlD4)

272 Gutta-percha (Palaquium) is a genus of tropical trees native to Southeast Asia and northern Australasia, from Taiwan south to the Malay Peninsula and east to the Solomon Islands. The same term is used to refer to an inelastic natural latex produced from the sap of these trees, particularly from the species Palaquium gutta Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 21, 2013 08:51 AM (sbV1u) Be honest, you just made all that shit up, didn't you?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 04:53 AM (da5Wo)

273 Be honest, you just made all that shit up, didn't you? Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 08:53 AM (da5Wo)

Not at all, my good man. Not at all.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 21, 2013 04:53 AM (sbV1u)

274 Any Member of Congress who speaks upon a scientific subject who is not a scientist himself (or herself) should have their idiotic remarks (BIRM) stricken from the record. They (Member of Congress) are the modern day equivalent of 'flat earthers'. A flat earth would not rotate once every 24 hours, would not tilt on it's axis, would be evenly heated by the sun. But we don't have that, instead we have a planet which seeks to stabilize itself. With tragic consequences at times. Wind speed on Mars? 200 mph has been observed. Neptune and Jupiter have winds in the 800 to 1000 mph range. Not one SUV has been sighted on any of those planets.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 21, 2013 04:53 AM (U2UQk)

275 which WAS what the GOP was most concerned about before it got better.

Posted by: occam at May 21, 2013 08:48 AM (BrkDN)

When did it "get better"?

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 04:53 AM (53z96)

276 Be honest, you just made all that shit up, didn't you?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 08:53 AM (da5Wo)

Check for an earpiece.

Posted by: EC at May 21, 2013 04:54 AM (GQ8sn)

277 "I think I'll go for a walk."

Posted by: The Economy at May 21, 2013 04:54 AM (BAS5M)

278 Utah Republican congressman says Obama may face impeachment over the Benghazi affair. I think he has his wires crossed. No laws were broken in Benghazi. There may be some instances of perjury and lies to congress, particularly from Hillary but nothing tracing back to Obama.

Vic a military commander can be relieved for failing to protect troops under fire - or for willfully abandoning civilians to the enemy in time of war when he had resources available to attempt to protect them. That applies to the Commander in Chief also.

Did Obama have military resources available? OF COURSE HE DID. There was a destroyer with cruise missiles less than 200 miles away. If the frigging ex-Navy seals were able to get there - active US military assets could have gotten there too if CiC gutsy call had ordered them in. Simply buzzing the area with a C130 - which was in Tripoli - would have scattered Allah's holy warriors like lit up cockroaches on a kitchen floor.

If absolutely nothing else was available - which I don't believe for one second and neither should you - he could have ordered the observation drone crashed onto the mortar site that was being lazed. However the claim that the drone was unarmed is another administration lie. Do you think the CIA - or the military is going to have an unarmed drone in a hot spot like Libya? Some active weapon linked up to the laser indicator on the ground. Unarmed drones don't do that. I want to hear the drone pilot testify.

The impeachable offense is the stand down order issued for political reasons - and that order starts at the 4 star general level and the only places it could have come from were the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the CiC.

Sorry Vic you are dead wrong about Benghazi not being an impeachable offense - it certainly is.

Posted by: [/i]An Observation at May 21, 2013 04:54 AM (ylhEn)

279 Gentlemen, I do believe we have a quorum. Is there pressing business? Shall we wait for the Dildo?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 04:55 AM (da5Wo)

280 Per Drudge, the death toll is now up to 91 in OK.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 21, 2013 04:55 AM (ccXZP)

281 I don't want to go on the cart.

Posted by: The Economy at May 21, 2013 04:56 AM (BAS5M)

282 Steve Miller testifies before Senate Finance Committee this morning at 10:00 am (C-Span-3). Should be interesting. I read that Douglas Shulman is testifying today, too. Anyone know when and whether it is going to be streamed?

Posted by: USA at May 21, 2013 04:56 AM (VIaw0)

283 We've have moved from fellatiophilia to coprophilia.

Posted by: The MSM at May 21, 2013 04:56 AM (Zv1QB)

284 which WAS what the GOP was most concerned about before it got better.

U-6 rate is 13.9%.

Not sure how that qualifies as "better" since it's an uptick from the month before. But I guess the community-based reality needs something to lie about.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 21, 2013 04:56 AM (sbV1u)

285 Especially, given that hurricanes can generate small tornadoes along their bands

Posted by: Jean at May 21, 2013 08:52 AM (CMlD4)

Or not so small. During Hugo I had one come through my backyard. Took shingles from my rood and destroyed the fence around my pool. Neighbor not so lucky. Twisted off a pine tree at it's base and put it through the roof of his house above the kitchen.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 04:57 AM (53z96)

286 I feel happy. I feel happy.

Posted by: The Economy at May 21, 2013 04:57 AM (BAS5M)

287 Is there pressing business? Shall we wait for the Dildo? Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 08:55 AM (da5Wo)

Do you care to revise your remarks in light of their obvious tone?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 21, 2013 04:57 AM (sbV1u)

288 U-6 rate is 13.9%.

Not sure how that qualifies as "better" since it's an uptick from the month before. But I guess the community-based reality needs something to lie about.
Posted by: Sean Bannion

Maybe they projected it to be 13.95?

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2013 04:58 AM (1aiPM)

289 Be honest, you just made all that shit up, didn't you?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 08:53 AM (da5Wo)

Gutta-percha is old-style fishing line made from the intestines of perch. They also use it to wind around fancy fishing rods.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 21, 2013 04:58 AM (O6Tmi)

290 Do you care to revise your remarks in light of their obvious tone? Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 21, 2013 08:57 AM (sbV1u) Eh, I've said worse.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 04:58 AM (da5Wo)

291 Here's how much better 'employment' is, Troll.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

Posted by: zsasz at May 21, 2013 04:58 AM (MMC8r)

292

>>>Took shingles from my rood

Hadda lookit up. A rood is a cross or crucifix, especially a large one in a church

Srsly?

Posted by: Bigby's Hearty Handshake at May 21, 2013 04:59 AM (3ZtZW)

293 Gutta-percha is old-style fishing line made from the intestines of perch. They also use it to wind around fancy fishing rods. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 21, 2013 08:58 AM (O6Tmi) I knew Bannion made that shit up. It was totally unbelievable.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 04:59 AM (da5Wo)

294 30 Issa warns Hillary that she should be prepared to come back. The question is, will he put her under oath this time. We know she lied before but she was not under oath (still a crime though).

Haha. You're kidding us right?

Posted by: Chuck Schumer's Republican's at May 21, 2013 05:00 AM (Cs2tJ)

295 Shall we wait for the Dildo?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 08:55 AM (da5Wo)

http://tinyurl.com/ljojcej

NSFW [sort of]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 21, 2013 05:00 AM (O6Tmi)

296 Steve Miller testifies before Senate Finance Committee this morning at 10:00 am (C-Span-3). Should be interesting. I read that Douglas Shulman is testifying today, too. Anyone know when and whether it is going to be streamed? Posted by: USA at May 21, 2013 08:56 AM (VIaw0) They're going to be at the same hearing (Senate Finance), so C-Span3 is the place to go. It'll also be streamed on C-Span's website.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at May 21, 2013 05:00 AM (uL0u2)

297 Maybe they projected it to be 13.95? posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2013 08:58 AM (1aiPM)

In that case, I must have won the Powerball this week.

Because I projected I'd spend $10, and I actually spent nothing.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 21, 2013 05:00 AM (sbV1u)

298 Or not so small. I think with HC Andrew (Cat 5) they had near constant wind speeds of 120 mph plus, with some tornadoes calculated at ~300 mph. Whole areas were wiped clean, no debris to be found. Which iirc became an area of contention between some homeowners and their insurance companies.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 21, 2013 05:01 AM (U2UQk)

299 Apparently, they thought they'd be getting more favorable treatment than they're getting. If only there had been some group of Americans who had tried to warn everyone of the consequences of passing a major bill in order to find out what's in it. If only...

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 21, 2013 05:02 AM (7ObY1)

300 Sorry Vic you are dead wrong about Benghazi not being an impeachable offense - it certainly is.

Posted by: An Observation at May 21, 2013 08:54 AM (ylhEn)

Since impeachment is a political process, technically anything is an impeachable offense. Andrew Johnson was impeached because he was doing his best to implement policies that Lincoln wanted and the radical Republican congress wanted no part of it.

He violated no laws at all.

My point is that although Benghazi is bad, indeed very bad, it is not the thing we should be looking for to start an impeachment process.

If they do draw up articles of impeachment I would include it in the list under gross incompetence and coverup, but I would but the IRS and other departments up at the top. I would also include a lot of the shit from the first term like selective enforcement of the law, or non-enforcement.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 05:02 AM (53z96)

301 Because I projected I'd spend $10, and I actually spent nothing. Posted by: Sean Bannion

Then what is it if you buy something you don't need for $10 instead of $20 because it's on sale?

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2013 05:03 AM (1aiPM)

302 In the old days, golf balls were made out of gutta-percha, too.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 21, 2013 05:03 AM (zF6Iw)

303 Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at May 21, 2013 09:00 AM (uL0u2) Thanks!

Posted by: USA at May 21, 2013 05:04 AM (VIaw0)

304

Morning, all!

My prayers are with everyone affected by the devastating OK tornadoes yesterday. I sincerely hope that all of our Okie 'rons and 'ettes and their loved ones are safe and sound.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorirst) Party Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at May 21, 2013 05:04 AM (4df7R)

305

>>>If only there had been some group of Americans who had tried to warn everyone of the consequences of passing a major bill in order to find out what's in it. If only...

It would have to be a large group, with some sort of credibility with the public and a means to make themselves heard.

Posted by: Bigby's Hearty Handshake at May 21, 2013 05:04 AM (3ZtZW)

306 @markknoller

Oklahoma Medical Examiner now puts death toll in Moore at 24, not 51. Says some victims double-counted.

Is it really that hard to count people in the morgue?

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 21, 2013 05:05 AM (X6akg)

307 Wait, are we playing Balderdash in the comments?

My word is "thwang."

Begin.

Sorry Vic you are dead wrong about Benghazi not being an impeachable offense - it certainly is.

To add to this: no "crime" is necessary for Impeachment. "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" means (basically) "Conduct unbecoming." Now, normally it means conduct so bad that some law must have been violated, but that's not a strict requirement.

That said, (Military morons correct me) dereliction of duty *is* a crime in the Military (of which the President is a member by virtue of being the Commander-in-Chief).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 21, 2013 05:05 AM (/PCJa)

308 Sharyl Atkinsson was on local Philly radio show a few minutes ago and said there is evidence that her computer, private communication has been compromised. I believe she said it dates back to 2011. She says she was working on Fast & Furious, failed green energy projects from the Obama administration before the Benghazi investigation. She said at the end of interview that she was taken by surprise about the question about her security being breached and that she isn't ready to go into it in detail yet.

The host is Chris Stigall from WPHT 1210 CBS Philly and he usually puts his more important interviews up on podcast shortly after they take place. Hopefully he will put this one up.
Link to Stigall's podcast page:

http://tinyurl.com/cfgr6cy

I didn't hear the whole interview unfortunately and it was a fairly long interview. This host has interviewed Sharyl in the past.

Posted by: jeannebodine at May 21, 2013 05:05 AM (LBBS3)

309 Then what is it if you buy something you don't need for $10 instead of $20 because it's on sale? Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2013 09:03 AM (1aiPM) So you've met my FIL?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 05:05 AM (da5Wo)

310 Damn, that lack of timely tornado warnings meme makes me mad. We get the information in a timely manner. As I posted earlier 90% of the world's weather equipment gets invented or improved at OU. KOTV in Tulsa has two weather helicopters with Doppler radar on them. No other city in the world has that. Our meteorologists are the best in the business. But, with all that said, if an F5 tornado drops on you and you are properly sheltered, you are dead.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at May 21, 2013 05:05 AM (rklUu)

311 The barrel is made of gutta-percha?

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 21, 2013 05:06 AM (SUKHu)

312 >>>If only there had been some group of Americans who had tried to warn everyone of the consequences of passing a major bill in order to find out what's in it. If only...

Fu(k you. I got me the big hammer. This damn thing is passing

XOX
Nancy

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2013 05:06 AM (1aiPM)

313 Regarding the IRS being a creation of the US Congress, and as if the IRS confines itself to limited powers invested by congress, and as if Congress would hold ANY accountable for ANY corruption, particularly the IRS (given the ample corruption and tax evasion per member of congress)... Here's something you haven't likely heard of or read. It's a case from Idaho that will shake you. Diversified Metal Products vs. The United States IRS, et al. CV-93-405E-EJE

Posted by: IRS SCANDAL at May 21, 2013 05:06 AM (MhA4j)

314

>>>In the old days, golf balls were made out of gutta-percha, too.

And covered with lead paint! Mmmm-mmm! they tasted just like cotton candy

/wheresmyhelmet - o there it is

Posted by: Bigby's Hearty Handshake at May 21, 2013 05:06 AM (3ZtZW)

315 Then what is it if you buy something you don't need for $10 instead of $20 because it's on sale?

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2013 09:03 AM (1aiPM)

Women?

*ducks*

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at May 21, 2013 05:07 AM (fwARV)

316 My prayers are with everyone affected by the devastating OK tornadoes yesterday. I sincerely hope that all of our Okie 'rons and 'ettes and their loved ones are safe and sound. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorirst) Party Hobbit at May 21, 2013 09:04 AM (4df7R) Morning MWR. Excellent point. I saw them here and there last night, but have we got confirmation that Sherry, Soona and Wheatie are ok? Their fams?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 05:07 AM (da5Wo)

317

>>>>My word is "thwang."

The sound of True Love

Posted by: Bigby's Hearty Handshake at May 21, 2013 05:07 AM (3ZtZW)

318 Is it really that hard to count people in the morgue?

Well, it's unlikely the State ME was doing it herself. So there were probably several MEs all doing it and, yes, things can get double-counted that way.

Of course, that doesn't excuse it: you double, then tripple, check those numbers before you even breathe an "estimate."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 21, 2013 05:08 AM (/PCJa)

319

"Anyone see that Daily Show scrunt's tweet? Yeah, probably shouldn't unless you want to spend the day planning a homicide."

A painfully unfunny scrunt of a comedienne has to resort to shock tactics in an effort to remain relevant? Wow. That's sooooooo different.

The afforementioned bag of fail was on Adam Carolla's podcast a couple weeks ago, mostly to protest AC's statement that the Left spun up to mean that he thought women weren't as funny as men. You could tell 2 minutes into the show that AC was tired of her shit and was just dying to tell the scrunt that she was proving his original point of there not being many funny female comics AND her own exaggeration of that point that females just weren't funny.

Oh, and she can go fuck herself with a chainsaw for that OK tweet too.

Posted by: Jaws at May 21, 2013 05:08 AM (4I3Uo)

320 A gutta percha is a bird that sits on the edge of your rain spouts.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 21, 2013 05:09 AM (pxDth)

321 "thwang"

The sound of a Kardashian thong breaking.

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2013 05:10 AM (1aiPM)

322 A gutta percha is a bird that sits on the edge of your rain spouts.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 21, 2013 09:09 AM (pxDth)

LOL good one

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 05:10 AM (53z96)

323 dump up

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 05:11 AM (53z96)

324
Oh, and she can go fuck herself with a chainsaw for that OK tweet too.

Posted by: Jaws at May 21, 2013 09:08 AM (4I3Uo)

So what you're saying is the best response to her is to say "Shut up and only read what the male writers give you in you script."

Posted by: buzzion at May 21, 2013 05:11 AM (LI48c)

325 Boehner, and the Republican leadership, needs some motivation. Perhaps a session with Matt Foley, Motivational Speaker? Posted by: Count de Monet at May 21, 2013 08:45 AM (BAS5M) Perhaps they could read the Constitution.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 05:12 AM (XYSwB)

326
My point is that although Benghazi is bad, indeed very bad, it is not the thing we should be looking for to start an impeachment process.

Benghazi had a body count - sorry, it needs to be number one on the list - to make sure the sorry sack of shit liberals in the world understand just how horrible Obama's actions were. The rest of the impeachable offenses are mere prison time felonies - Benghazi is potentially a capital crime - dereliction of duty and cowardice in the face of the enemy during time of war.

Posted by: [/i]An Observation at May 21, 2013 05:12 AM (ylhEn)

327 320 A gutta percha is a bird that sits on the edge of your rain spouts. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 21, 2013 09:09 AM (pxDth) I thought a gutta percha was the move Hannibal Lecter pulled in Hannibal?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 05:13 AM (da5Wo)

328 A gutta percha is what happens the ladder falls away just as you reach in to pull the leaves out of the downspout.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 21, 2013 05:13 AM (U2UQk)

329 Shall we wait for the Dildo?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 08:55 AM (da5Wo)

http://tinyurl.com/ljojcej

NSFW [sort of]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 21, 2013 09:00 AM (O6Tmi)

Dammit, I'm always at work when we do these sort of things.

Posted by: EC at May 21, 2013 05:17 AM (GQ8sn)

330 hey care about the economy which WAS what the GOP was most concerned about before it got better. Posted by: occam lulz 11.2% unemployment is good times to occam good times

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2013 05:18 AM (XYSwB)

331 A gutta percha is a bird that sits on the edge of your rain spouts.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 21, 2013 09:09 AM (pxDth)

OK, Seamus, you asked for it:

What do you use to keep a parrot on its perch?

Polly-Grip!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 21, 2013 05:18 AM (zF6Iw)

332 Then what is it if you buy something you don't need for $10 instead of $20 because it's on sale? Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2013 09:03 AM (1aiPM)

It's a "Saturday" for my wife.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 21, 2013 05:18 AM (sbV1u)

333 Vic, "During Hugo I had one come through my backyard." I was specifically thinking about Hugo. Afterwards we (Citadel kids) had a variety of clean up tasks; one of which was walking these snaking,winding tornado cuts thru the piney swamps north of Charleston looking for bodies or important debris. Found car parts, boat stuff, teleco and electrical wire randomly wrapped around trees, etc.

Posted by: Jean at May 21, 2013 05:18 AM (CMlD4)

334 310. What does an F5 do to a flat-top earth's surface concrete underground bunker, NOT attached to a structure sticking above ground? Our city councils think they can attract tourism or more suburban sprawl if they spend our rising municipal taxes on city structures that provide no shelter from recurring tornadoes. Let's build a recreation center and a concert hall? Sure, but why not architecturally design the structures for the winds to blow over and around, bermed domed buildings. Same with school buildings. Meanwhile, save a load of expenses on central air heating and cooling, being naturally insulated.

Posted by: ample warning at May 21, 2013 05:18 AM (MhA4j)

335 Comments down?

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2013 05:19 AM (53z96)

336 Anybody else having issues with loading the site? Or is that just me?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 21, 2013 05:19 AM (da5Wo)

337 Re storm shelters: Many morons can build their own storm shelters or safe rooms and save thousands over the cost of commercial installations. FEMA's recommendations are based on research from Texas Tech, developed over many years. Walls consisting of a sandwich of 3/4" plywood and 16ga sheet steel seem quite doable to me. "Taking Shelter from the Storm: Building a Safe Room in Your House:" http://gohsep.la.gov/factsheets/StormSafeRoom.pdf

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at May 21, 2013 05:24 AM (JQuNB)

338 Boehner, and the Republican leadership, needs some motivation.

Just read Tip ONiels' book, and emulate in the opposite direction, troop lead the administration via Appropriations. Make them beg for every penny, every month. (Then end withholding)

Posted by: Jean at May 21, 2013 05:24 AM (CMlD4)

339 Yeah, the page is suddenly loading slowly.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at May 21, 2013 05:29 AM (uL0u2)

340 Lizz Winstead, Daily News dump, adds insult to injury. So she asked if there are any charities that Oklahoma residents prefer. NOT that she's making any financial donation herself. But she'll pass the buck.

Posted by: waiting to load up at May 21, 2013 05:36 AM (MhA4j)

341 comments are down/loading extremely slow.

Posted by: buzzion at May 21, 2013 05:41 AM (LI48c)

342 Sorry, backup was running and slowing down the database. I've stopped the backup while I check on that, because it shouldn't be causing that sort of problem.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 21, 2013 05:51 AM (2yngH)

343 "71 My only reform suggestion for government agencies, if we cannot get abolishment, is to REQUIRE all federal agencies hire from 2 labor pools, Republican and democrat. Each party would provide a list of names and hiring would have to come from each pool in equal numbers.

The second reform would be to remove the employee unions, since obviously the union leadership is exerting illegal influence on employees.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 21, 2013 07:24 AM (GoIUi)"

A much simpler solution is to repeal the civil service laws as a failed experiment like Prohibition. It is pretty obvious that the people who work at the IRS are neither civil nor servile.

This provides a huge incentive for better government service. Were they rude and uncooperative at the VA or the DMV? Well, if you vote for the other party in the next election that asshole will be out of a job. That serves as an enormous incentive to politicians to lean heavily on the bureaucrats and for the bureaucrats to police their own.

While we may not be able to remove all civil service laws in one stroke, one thing that can be done is to push the level of "at the pleasure of the President" jobs down another layer into the hierarchy. I believe we have an asymmetric advantage here. Yes, most low level government workers are Democrats but Democrats are always looking for patronage jobs for their cronies and their cronies' relatives.

Remember the White House Travel Office scandal when the Clintons were looking for more jobs to place campaign workers to reward them for their service? They trumped up some charges against long term civil servants in order to fire them. Something similar will happen every time Democrats take office. They will fire everybody they can, regardless of competence, and put in party hacks. This puts a ceiling on how high civil servants can rise in the system. However, Republicans generally have fewer party hacks who need to be rewarded so 1) government positions can be eliminated after the "at pleasure" hacks are fired 2) competent civil servants can be promoted to these supervisory positions but they will know that they will be fired when the next Democrat comes to power.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at May 21, 2013 05:52 AM (31Nrp)

344 A much simpler solution is to repeal the civil service laws as a failed experiment like Prohibition. ...and the War on Drugs.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 21, 2013 05:56 AM (7ObY1)

345 >>The rest of the impeachable offenses are mere prison time felonies - Benghazi is potentially a capital crime - dereliction of duty and cowardice in the face of the enemy during time of war. I don't disagree that Benghazi needs to stay on the front burner but the IRS scandal is far worse in my opinion. Benghazi is an example of incompetence, betrayal, cowardice and attempt to cover up for a failed policy to protect politicians. Heinous but really not unprecedented. Using the IRS as a weapon against targeted people is the worst example I can think of of government officials using the awesome power of the federal government to punish average citizens for nothing more than exercising their first and most important right, free speech. It is an attack at the heart of our republic and our freedom. Nixon used the IRS to target other politicians and enemies. It was the 2nd article of impeachment against him and that alone would have been enough to toss him from office. What the Obama administration did was far broader in scope and much worse. I don't the average person truly understands just how evil what they did truly is. We need to make sure they do or everything else will only escalate.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 21, 2013 05:57 AM (g1DWB)

346 In that case, I must have won the Powerball this week.

Because I projected I'd spend $10, and I actually spent nothing.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 21, 2013 09:00 AM (sbV1u)

Under Obamanomics, you actually lost $600 million less the $10 you didn't spend. It's time for an investigation of the lottery!

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 21, 2013 05:59 AM (Gkhxf)

347 Here's something you haven't likely heard of or read. It's a case from Idaho that will shake you.

Diversified Metal Products
vs.
The United States IRS, et al.
CV-93-405E-EJE

Posted by: IRS SCANDAL at May 21, 2013 09:06 AM (MhA4j)

You really should do research before posting crazy conspiracy stuff on here. There are these amazing things called "search engines". You might try one some time.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 21, 2013 06:09 AM (Gkhxf)

348 Gave a little something to MercuryOne.org, wish it could have been more, but I'm really tapped out this week. 100% goes to the Oklahoma tornado victims. Beck got there quite early with his trailers full of food and is feeding people at a church in Moore.

Posted by: Jaimo at May 21, 2013 06:27 AM (9U1OG)

349 54 I love "Preston Brooks" as a verb.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 21, 2013 07:14 AM (hO8IJ)

Heh. Refreshed my memory on the name. Liked this little tidbit here:

"When Burlingame denounced Brooks as a coward on the floor of the House, Brooks challenged him to a duel, and Burlingame accepted the challenge. Burlingame, as the challenged party, specified rifles as the weapons, and to get around American anti-dueling laws he named the Navy Yard on the Canadian side of Niagara Falls as the site. Brooks, reportedly dismayed by both Burlingame's unexpectedly enthusiastic acceptance and his reputation as a crack shot, neglected to show up, instead citing unspecified risks to his safety if he was to cross "hostile country" (the Northern states) to reach Canada. He was subsequently mocked as a coward by Northerners for the rest of his life.[17]"

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 21, 2013 06:59 AM (A4irB)

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