1 1st

2 Good morning to the moron world

3 In before Vic?

4 Yesssssss!!!!!!!

5 Leadership and john boener do not belong in the same sentence The is a doofus climber and drunk not a leader.

6 I was told there would be burning.

7 Not foist!

8

Morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes.  ItÂ’s a rainy morning here in MA; I hope itÂ’s sunny and warm where you are.  While we wait for Vic, why not grab a cup of joe and settle back for a moment. . .

 

 

Before John Wayne, the biggest Western star was the grim-faced man of few words William S. Hart, a silent actor whose pictures – The Man From Nowhere, The Silent Man, The Testing Block and many others – are credited with establishing the character of the “good bad man,” the Western antihero who is redeemed by a noble cause or a good woman.  Hart was a stickler for realism (or as much as could be had within the confines of a movie), and hereÂ’s a story about one time things got a little too real:

 

 

During the shooting one of his movies, Hart had arranged for a scene with a knockdown brawl in a restaurant.  It would culminate with Hart knocking out an extra and a professional boxer had been hired for the scene.

 

 

Before the cameras rolled, Hart took the extra aside.  “Partner,” he told the big bruiser, “of course, you know your business, but since weÂ’ve never fought before, I want to explain how we try and work it.”  He then went on to tell the extra to pull his punches as much as he could – and Hart would do the same – but make it look like a real fight as much as possible.

 

 

“One last thing, brother,” Hart finished.  “When I judge weÂ’ve got enough for the scene, IÂ’ll swing and land on you.  IÂ’ll pull the punch as much as I can, and as I do, IÂ’ll yell ‘Go,Â’ and you go down just like you would in a real fight.”

 

 

Through all of this, the extra hadnÂ’t asked for an explanation or for cues; in fact, he hadnÂ’t said anything at all.  Figuring he was just taciturn, Hart patted him on the shoulder.  “Remember, IÂ’ll holler ‘Go,” and you hit the floor.”

 

 

“Roll camera!” the director shouted, and the fight began.  Hart quickly found the extra was taking the fight much more seriously than he wanted him to, but as the two traded crushing blows, the actor comforted himself with the thought that at least it would be a realistic scene.  Finally, he decided they had enough footage in the can; he lunged at the extra and yelled “Go!”

 

 

To his astonishment, the man kept on fighting, charging Hart like a wounded bear.  “Go!” Hart yelled again.  “GO!”  But it didnÂ’t work – Hart took a massive right to the jaw and was nearly knocked cold.  Infuriated, he leaped on the extra, delivering a storm of punches, kicks and gouges that finally brought the man down.

 

 

Hart was still pounding the manÂ’s face as the crew pulled the two apart.  Straining against the men holding him, Hart began yelling at the extra for ignoring his instructions.  “Wait a minute, Mr. Hart,” said the man who had hired the extra, pushing his way through the crowd.  “YouÂ’re all wrong.”

 

 

Then he explained.  “We forgot to tell you this man is stone deaf.  ItÂ’s not his fault.”

 

 

An abashed Hart took the extra to the hospital and paid the bill.  But he never saw the man again.

 

 

Hope you all have a wonderful day.

9 DAY 204 1,256 to go (1,331 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

10 Amnesty!  It's what's for brunch!

11 Rep. Bachmann has an eight-minute video announcing that she won't run for reelection next year. It's somethin'. Fine. Go away. Attempted pandering populist politician that didn't pan out. ..and no real fight. Never really liked her.

12 Time to make the doughnuts.

13 11 Rep. Bachmann has an eight-minute video announcing that she won't run for reelection next year. It's somethin'. Fine. Go away. Attempted pandering populist politician that didn't pan out. ..and no real fight. Never really liked her. Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at May 29, 2013 06:58 AM (JdUNu) She was hated as much by the GOP as she was by the leftists. Say what you will about her, she's a decent person with a genuine love of the country who wanted to do what was right to reverse course. Tardisil notwithstanding, I'm certainly glad she's on our side.

14 "Fine. Go away. Attempted pandering populist politician that didn't pan out.

..and no real fight."


WTF?

15 Posted by: Case at May 29, 2013 06:57 AM (tjj0w)

And it's so good and good for you!


Be sure to have a side of chain immigration!  I hear it's wonderful.

16 Iowan organizes cross-country march focused on climate change
http://t.co/5WPOcepBeX

Do you think these people ever go outside except to make asses of themselves?

17 Kan wee haz rivalooshun?

18 Its not easy when you not only have to fight the progressives but when you also have to fight your own side. The bachman hate is of a piece with the Palin hate. Good luck Mrs bachman in whatever you may wind up doing.

19 Just read the Breitbart piece about the unreleased IG report on Ichabod Goolsbee's possible accessing of Koch Industires tax info... Goodness knows what has gone on that what don't know about. I bet Romney knows a ton about the Thug In Chief and his henchmen.

20 Morning. Dayyyyyyum son, that shit done blowed the fuck up!

21 Right now pondering calling the vet.  Mama cat been getting fatter while kittens have remained same size.  Couple days ago she was wheezing and this morning find cat puke outside and Mama is not eating.

22 Crazy eyes checking out.  Now we need a 12 step program for Palin addicts...

23 Romney and the GOP leadership knew what was happening with the IRS, they chose to do nothing. It was plain for all to see that the IRS was giving out the tax information of its enemies. The federal government has been weaponized and is fully operational. Next up is the atom bomb of amnesty, its an extinction level event for the GOP and it seems like they are going to turn the key.

24 22-Crazy eyes checking out. Now we need a 12 step program for Palin addicts... Posted by: M. Murcek at May 29, 2013 07:08 AM (GJUgF) Let me guess, you loves you some sweet sweet RINO meat.

25

Right now pondering calling the vet.

 

Do it, Anna.  Better safe than sorry.

26 22 Crazy eyes checking out. Now we need a 12 step program for Palin addicts... Posted by: M. Murcek at May 29, 2013 07:08 AM (GJUgF) After completion, McCain and Graham will be your idols...

27 I like Bachmann

28 Well the good news is that Christie is as good as nominated. The MFM will call his campaign gutsy and that his concession speech ended as it began: feisty.

29 Best advice I was ever given: "Don't play the other guy's game." If the GOP game is to be democrap lite, I just have to look elsewhere, eh?

30 23 Next up is the atom bomb of amnesty, its an extinction level event for the GOP and it seems like they are going to turn the key. Posted by: kreplach at May 29, 2013 07:10 AM (74T7W) "Mein fuhrer! I can walk!!"

31 "Mein fuhrer! I can walk!!"  Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 29, 2013 07:13 AM (+98Gb)

Will our essence be preserved?

32

Romney and the GOP leadership knew what was happening with the IRS, they chose to do nothing.

 

Which, if true, should be the occasion for the final falling of the scales from "moderate" eyes.  It stains the GOP as just as much a bunch of statist quo hacks and enemies of freedom as the Democrats.  Without a massive realignment, we're entering the area where "burn it down and hang them all" will be the only option.

33 Good morning. Did you guys know there is professional ultimate frisbee?

34 Liberals fear cock-sure Anthony Weiner. I'm sending one hundred dollars to him.

35 32 Romney and the GOP leadership knew what was happening with the IRS, they chose to do nothing. Which, if true, should be the occasion for the final falling of the scales from "moderate" eyes. It stains the GOP as just as much a bunch of statist quo hacks and enemies of freedom as the Democrats. Without a massive realignment, we're entering the area where "burn it down and hang them all" will be the only option. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 29, 2013 07:14 AM (zF6Iw) One more piece of evidence indicating that the establishment GOP would rather join in with the leftists and see us destroyed by the IRS rather than see their influence diminished.

36 Backman would be a good one to run against Franken-the-Clown

37 Posted by: Baldy at May 29, 2013 07:05 AM (tyDFN)


But Ghoulsbee's intentions were noble because everyone knew how evil the Koch Brothers are by their daily actions of employing people, producing product, and not being part of the crony socialist state. It was just necessary to be sure they paid their fair share of taxes (unlike Warren Buffet).

38 Or Bachmann

39 WSJ is still asking about the IRS targeting of groups that support Israel, something that has seemed to get lost in the scandal. Yeah, that's not so smart, especially after the Jews voted something like 85% for Obama. But then, I never claimed Obama was intelligent.

40 Good morning. Did you guys know there is professional ultimate frisbee?

Yep.  Right up there with associated other X-game type events.  Used to recruit at those tournaments.

41 34 Liberals fear cock-sure Anthony Weiner. I'm sending one hundreddollars to him. Posted by: tony redenzo at May 29, 2013 07:16 AM (DUfN3) Levin said Weiner would run for president with Holder as his running mate. Hence, Weiner-Holder '16.

42 For all "cult of personality" Republicans: You are playing the other guy's game.  No, I'm not a RINO, mcshame, grahamnasty and chrissie can all go pound sand.  You need to look again at why our party is losing.  It's not the message, it's the messengers...

43 Morning all. Today, tomorrow and then I am off to Navy land for 11 days.

44 "David Freddoso has an interesting column on Speaker Boehner's leadership style...." In the immodestly (if not laughably) named "Conservative Intelligence Briefing," the author argues that, Yes, Boehner is a very weak speaker, but gosh darn it, that is just what this country needs. Kill me now....

45 "Tardisil notwithstanding, I'm certainly glad she's on our side."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 29, 2013 07:00 AM (+98Gb)

========

Her heart was in the right place, too bad she couldn't keep her mouth with it.  Amazing how a single word (and a made-up word at that) can define, and demolish, a political career.

Oh, and Good Morning!

46 Bachmann would be a good one to run against Franken-the-Clown Yes, that would be good. He might have to find three or four trunk-loads of ballots to beat her.

47 21 Right now pondering calling the vet. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 29, 2013 07:06 AM (khd7K) I'd get her checked out. Mind you, easy for me to say, I'm not paying for it. Funny you're getting up and I'm going to sleep.

48 You know,  it's a mystery to me why any conservative would even go into politics.

49
Lawyers leading the fight for gay marriage in California have been quietly preparing state officials for the possibility the U.S. Supreme Court might dismiss the case on a technicality next month without deciding the fate of Proposition 8.

The justices could decide that the sponsors of the ballot measure outlawing same-sex marriage had no legal right, or standing, to defend it in federal court. That would end the case in Washington, but it is not clear what it would mean for California.

http://tinyurl.com/q5gaepw



That would leave the breadth of the effects of the initial case to be fought over within California, but would kill any nationwide legalization from this case.

Wonder if all the "growth" you've been seeing over the last few months among politicians, Portman and so on, is because the powers that be got a heads up on the ruling and are laying the groundwork for a new round of state and federal attempts to legislate gay marriage into existence.

50 42 For all "cult of personality"Republicans: You are playing the other guy's game. No, I'm not a RINO, mcshame, grahamnasty and chrissie can all go pound sand. You need to look again at why our party is losing. It's not the message, it's the messengers... Posted by: M. Murcek at May 29, 2013 07:18 AM (GJUgF) If we're not losing because of the message, then it shouldn't matter who the messenger is. The smear campaigns and utter lies hurled at ANY of our candidates, from the GOP establishment as much as from the left, might have a wee bit to do with their defeats as well.

51 45 Her heart was in the right place, too bad she couldn't keep her mouth with it. Amazing how a single word (and a made-up word at that) can define, and demolish, a political career. Oh, and Good Morning! Posted by: Nighthawk at May 29, 2013 07:19 AM (OtQXp) Only because she has an "R" after her name.

52 Well since I am supposed to pick up car today and check in tomorrow for A-kon, she maybe taking deposits with her on top of vet bill.

But sick animals I do not leave alone.  I seriously could not believe this one woman in Dollar General yesterday.  She was taking out of her cart various tins of wet good and a bag of dry.  Commented she is support staff to a cat also.  Her cat had eight kittens five weeks ago..  One died and the other she says got lost, she went away for a couple days and left cat and kittens inside the house.  A lost kitten, possibly dead, in the house.

Eerrr....

53 Sefton, I guess you have never seen a bad commercial on TV....

54 The hate against Bachmann is creepy. Her support for the country, the Tea Party, and her willingness to expose the truth in Washington made her shine. She was another tough woman, more balls than most of the men in Congress. Like someone said above, I'm glad she's on our side. It was the resignation of DeMint that freaked me out the most.

55 Tailor made for the left to cut up.  Say it with me T O D D   A K I N...

56 I got a letter from the IRS on Saturday saying that they are increasing my refund ( and nicely so ) but it would take 4-6 weeks. It showed up yesterday. Oh so sweet since I am basically going to be away from the Office for about 30 days on Active Duty in the next 45 days. Maybe they don't know I am a hard right wing Conservative?

57
Dan Richard, chairman of the California High-speed Rail Authority, said  at a congressional hearing in Madera that the agency had reduced the risk of future cost overruns, but the project's price tag could increase in the future.

"I am not going to sit here and promise that there will not be [cost growth]," Richard said.

http://tinyurl.com/on56u44




Hey, that's great. Wait a minute.....

58 A record 40% of all households with children under the age of 18 include mothers who are either the sole or primary source of income for the family, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of data from the U.S. Census Bureau. The share was just 11% in 1960. These “breadwinner moms” are made up of two very different groups: 5.1 million (37%) are married mothers who have a higher income than their husbands, and 8.6 million (63%) are single mothers. wow

59 I wonder when someone will question Dingy Reid about his statements about Romney's tax info, under oath of course. Where did you get that 'info', Dingy?
 
Identify your source (jail time), or be proven a liar and Romney can sue your cadaverous ass into penury.

60 Adultery worked so well for Bill, and I'm sure the lez aspect will only enhance the power of promiscuity and deviance to get me elected. The hell with that closeted queen Barry; what the voters want is a full-out open pervert for President. What you got to match those qualifications for high office, clinger wingers? Lindsay? Sorry, people only like watching real lesbians. Like me and Huma. Watch this nom nom nom.

61 Weiner and NYC go hand and croch together.

62 "Only because she has an "R" after her name.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 29, 2013 07:22 AM (+98Gb) "

======

But of course!

You can get away with anything when the Ministry of Truth has your back.

Exhibit A: (still) Attorney General Eric Holder.

63 >>For all "cult of personality"Republicans: You are playing the other guy's game. No, I'm not a RINO, mcshame, grahamnasty and chrissie can all go pound sand. You need to look again at why our party is losing. It's not the message, it's the messengers... Not really. The left started a long march through the institutions of power decades ago and this is the result. The left owns the bureaucracy, they own the msm, they own the universities and much of the public school system. The unions have lost a lot of their power but they still represent a much more unified power base than anything on the right and they are wholly owned by the left. The average voter is not very engaged in politics and listens to the voices they have always listened to, been trained to listen to. The voices tell them that Michelle Bachmann is a loon but Joe Biden is a super genius and they lap it up. They are told that Obama is a light worker despite his atrocious record and Romney is an evil woman hating monster despite his amazing record and they eat that up too. Conservatives can do well in local elections in conservative districts. They don't do well in national elections. They are up against a stacked deck on the national level. Politicians on the left are no more gifted than they guys we put up. They just have a much more organized and effective machine.

64 Romney can sue your cadaverous ass into penury. Posted by: GnuBreed at May 29, 2013 07:28 AM (cHZB7) But of course Romney would not do that. To nice a guy. We have to stop nominating nice guys and pick guys or gals who will go for the jugular.

65 No one else in MN is stepping up to run against Franken.  She has the name recognition even tho, as Zakn points out,  she is absolutely hated by the lefty media.  We could do worse.  Much worse.

66 Tea Party House Caucus Leader, in for the duration? Sure, 8 years is enough. If everyone else goes home after 8 years. Well, she's not the first to self impose term limits. Meanwhile, where's the repeal of ObamaCare, the denial of funding for ObamaCare, protection of our Bill of Rights? I'd gladly keep her quirks around than suffer the likes of Boehner's idiosyncrasies (Yes, Obama. Whatever I can do for you, Obama. Whatever you say, Obama.). Would Bachmann want to stay were she to be elected House Speaker, replacing Boner? Instead, on to Switzerland with dual citizenship tax benefits? Her application after losing the GOP '12 bid for POTUS was definitely unusual, just for the timing. Being the tax lawyer in the know, it would be the norm to seek for anyone with the opportunity.

67

I wonder when someone will question Dingy Reid about his statements about Romney's tax info, under oath of course. Where did you get that 'info', Dingy?

 

Silly winger.  Probing questions are only for enemies of the state.

 

Identify your source (jail time), or be proven a liar and Romney can sue your cadaverous ass into penury.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 29, 2013 07:28 AM (cHZB7)

 

Romney was a one-punch wonder who rolled into the fetal position and begged the mean MFM to leave him alone.  Fuck him.

68 The stabber in France was also a convert. islam should be outlawed.

69 "Its not easy when you not only have to fight the progressives but when you also have to fight your own side." : kreplach Hint: if you have to fight them, they may not be as much on your side as you thought.

70 Geeze, the subject changed awful quick...

71

The hell with that closeted queen Barry; what the voters want is a full-out open pervert for President.

 

If the GOP had any balls (since we know they have no brains), Cankles' admission to rug munching would be a stake through her heart.  I can see the commercials:

 

FDR:  Governor of NY.  Secretary of the Navy.  Guided the US through WWII.

 

JFK:  Senator.  WWII veteran.  Cool hand during Cuban Missle Crisis.  Inspired the Apollo program.

 

LBJ:  Senate hard dealer.  Founder of the Great Society.

 

HRC:  Lesbian.

72 Without a massive realignment, we're entering the area where "burn it down and hang them all" will be the only option. You say that like it's a bad thing.

73 45, 51 No kidding. That idiot fearing that an island would tip over and sink illustrates the depth of intellect elected by the Left.

74 42 MMurcek Evidently jwest called out sick, so we get the substitute GOP knob polisher.

75 The Tea Party will replace Bachmann with another witch or scientologist. Should be another winning ticket!

76

From the March 20, 2010 DenverPost a great collection of 137 photos of the Iraq War. A lot of the comments suck though. Typical leftist hate.

 

Below photo 137 are two linky arrows that go to other photo collections.

 

http://tinyurl.com/y8hl64z

77 75 The Tea Party will replace Bachmann with another witch or scientologist. Should be another winning ticket! Posted by: Hunker down and L.I.B. at May 29, 2013 07:40 AM (Cs2tJ) I'm sure you'd prefer Charlie Crist or John Huntsman.

78 HRC: Lesbian. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 29, 2013 07:39 AM (zF6Iw) Wasn't Carter a lesbian also?

79 GOP sent in their anti tea party trolls this morning

80 The article cited, and the secondary article linked all tried to make the point that the Speaker and the President rarely talk. Why would a republican want to talk to Obama since his ideology is antithetical to everything the United States was founded on?

 

81 On that LegalInsurrection.com post re: the QUARTER-sized Lego GI Joe "gun on the bus" story. Mieke Crane is the mother of the 6-year-old kindergarten student who brought the gun on the bus. “I think they over-reacted totally. I totally do,” said Crane. Another student on the bus saw the toy and yelled to the driver. This is what they are doing to kids. Warping/brainwashing their minds with fear. I would have "timed out" that tattle-taler silly. http://tinyurl.com/putmjv4

82 Wasn't Carter a lesbian also?

 

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 29, 2013 07:41 AM (9Bj8R)

 

His clit was too small.

83 I think we should have "None Of The Above" on ballots.  And just leave seats empty if that gets the most votes.

84 I think we should have "None Of The Above" on ballots. And just leave seats empty if that gets the most votes. Posted by: Case at May 29, 2013 07:44 AM (o00SF) Or we Republicans could run a few empty suits....oh wait, we already do. Never mind

85 jwest: I don't share your obsessions, so I must be an eeeevil establishment operative. How sad...

86
GOP sent in their anti tea party trolls this morning
Posted by: Dale Gribble



Congressional summer interns....

87 Sorry, that was Dale Gribble I meant to call out. Bug powder got to your brain, Dale? 

88 >>This is what they are doing to kids. Warping/brainwashing their minds with fear. Exactly what I'm talking about. They've been doing this for years with kids, making them afraid or ignorant of traditional American values and signing the praises of leftist ideology. And people are shocked that a large percentage of them become good little leftists when they come of voting age? Look at Obama's base, it's young, hardcore left and ignorant. That didn't happen by accident.

89 40 Good morning. Did you guys know there is professional ultimate frisbee? Yep. Right up there with associated other X-game type events. Used to recruit at those tournaments. Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 29, 2013 07:17 AM (sbV1u) The Washington breeze has a deal for tickets on living social! Morning!

90 Congressional summer interns.... Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 29, 2013 07:46 AM (kdS6q) we'll have 'em whipped into shape come Labor Day

91 "M. Murcek"

Who the fuck is this guy and when did he show up?

92 Michele Bachmann took in 23 foster kids; much more good for humanity than any of her bitchy little critics have done. She's got a bright future whatever she chooses to do.

93

>>>Romney and the GOP leadership knew what was happening with the IRS, they chose to do nothing.

 

Conspiracy theories are fun!

 

We get it; you hate Republicans. I'm sure you can give us a ton of reasons why. No need to make up false ones.

94

On that LegalInsurrection.com post re: the QUARTER-sized Lego GI Joe "gun on the bus" story.

 

I was thinking about that story this morning.  Had that been my kid, I would have walked him into the principal's office.

 

"What did he do?"  "He brought a gun on the bus."  "Really?  Where is it?"  "Right here."  "OK, shoot off a round."  "What?"  You said it's a gun.  So shoot it."  "It's a toy gun."  "Oh, so he really didn't bring a gun on the bus."  "Yes, he did."  "No, we've established it's a toy.  It's not real.  You admit that, right?"  "Yes, but -"  "So if he brought a toy hammer on the bus, would you have given him detention?"

 

And just keep going.  Jam the idiocy right back into that propagandizing fuck's face.  And do a press conference right outside the school.  Name the assholes and shame them.  Point out that they're idiots.  Punch back twice as hard.

95 I'm not going to vote for any droolers.  That means no dems and a regrettably significant fraction of "self described" Republicans. That's bound to piss off the droolers in the general population...

96
Inside the Actors Studio host James Lipton reveals he did a "roaring trade" as a pimp in 1950s Paris

DailyMail

97 85 jwest: I don't share your obsessions, so I must be an eeeevil establishment operative. How sad... Posted by: M. Murcek at May 29, 2013 07:46 AM (GJUgF) Kind of makes me want to cry Snif

98 Michele Bachmann took in 23 foster kids; much more good for humanity than any of her bitchy little critics have done. She's got a bright future whatever she chooses to do. Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 29, 2013 07:49 AM (Y8t25) I think what she did/does with foster kids is incredible and commendable. But she does have a few screw loose. But then some of my best friends have a few screws loose and I am not sure where all mine are either

99 Eight minute video, eh? 

Must  have been lovely, it's no longer available. 

100 74 42 MMurcek
Evidently jwest called out sick, so we get the substitute GOP knob polisher.

Posted by: Dale Gribble at May 29, 2013 07:39 AM (JXtHh)

 

For those not paying attention, I'm the one who calls out assholes like MMurcek who attack TEA Party conservatives.

 

Try to get it right, people.

101 By the way, the proxie War in Syria is one of the first in recent memory where the Soviets are actually kicking our ass. thanks obama

102

Inside the Actors Studio host James Lipton reveals he did a "roaring trade" as a pimp in 1950s Paris

 

In other breaking news, sun to rise in east tomorrow.

 

First Cankles and now this.  What makes people think that confessing to sexual aberration is praiseworthy?

103 I love you calling me an asshole. Lets us all know where we stand...

104 Is McVain still behind enemy lines in Syria?

105 Hey The Pacers have tied the heat series at 2-2. Way to go. Now it is a 2 our of 3 and anything can happen. Sure hope they knock off the heat and james

106 Is McVain still behind enemy lines in Syria? Posted by: John Boehner, Weaker of the House at May 29, 2013 07:55 AM (xm1Dn) He is in bed with enemy, urh I mean the democrats.

107 Friendsh, we have nothing to fear from the rise of the Caliphate...

108 "Had that been my kid, I would have walked him into the principal's office." - MPPPP Having children in their system is neglect and abuse. Autodidactic children don't get brainwashed by the Reds. And by Reds I mean Commies, not the Redublicans. (When did they steal our blue???)

109

Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 07:50 AM (B2LxR)

 

Are you saying Romney and the GOP leadership *didn't* know?

 

That's about as troubling as if they *did* know.  Certainly if the campaign did outreach they would have heard Tea Party groups complain about what the IRS was doing to them.  Hell, Michael Steele today said he heard those complaints back when he was RNC chair.  I'd expect someone as uncurious as Steele to dismiss it (and he did), but from the GOP Standard Bearer it is unforgiveable.

110 Indiana vs San Antonio.  A NBA Finals made in ratings heaven.

111 ndiana vs San Antonio. A NBA Finals made in ratings heaven. Is there a game on?

112 NBA. So important in the larger scheme of things.

113 Rep. Bachmann has an eight-minute video announcing that she won't run for reelection next year. It's somethin'.

Fine. Go away. Attempted pandering populist politician that didn't pan out.

..and no real fight.

Never really liked her.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at May 29, 2013 06:58 AM (JdUNu)


I saw a news report referring to her being wildly popular among Republicans.  All I could do was shake my head and think that, if she was sooooooooooooo popular, why did she get her hat handed to her in the primaries?

114 Indiana vs San Antonio. A NBA Finals made in ratings heaven. Posted by: zeera at May 29, 2013 07:57 AM (3dXwx) Actually that is a ratings hell for the Network, but I'd like to see it. 2 teams I actually do NOT hate and might even have a few redeeming human beings on them

115 Appears this mornings posts are filled by Kos kids.

116 >>Are you saying Romney and the GOP leadership *didn't* know? Know what? Everyone, well everyone paying attention, heard that the Tea Party and other conservative groups were complaining about the IRS. What proof did anyone have a year ago that they were in fact targeting those groups? We now have absolute proof that they were targeting those groups and the public at large is pretty much yawning. So what exactly would you have liked Romney or the GOP leadership to have done a year ago when we didn't have a scintilla of proof?

117 Well she focused all of her attention on Iowa, and for reasons passing understanding she hired Rollins, who hates her and Sarah with the force of a hundred suns, also she kept her eye off Obamacare repeal, but that was true of most wasn't it,

118
Appears this mornings posts are filled by Kos kids.
Posted by: FakeAssPosters




Summer.  It hits all sites while the kids are on break and need to keep themselves busy.

119 Michelle Backman said she could see Russia from her house.

120 @115: I think she has situational popularity. Nearly everyone would be fine if she kept that House seat forever, much as few would complain if Chris Christie stayed as NJ Governor until he checked out. It's either of them going for higher office where things get unpopular.

121 Oooh... Zombie John Gotti, you are an asshole, according to Dale Gribble...

122 I'd prefer SA win the title, to reward their veterans and coach, but I don't mind either of the two teams in the East. I'm very magnanimous when the Pistons/Knicks/Lakers aren't involved.

123 Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 07:50 AM (B2LxR) Are you saying Romney and the GOP leadership *didn't* know? That's about as troubling as if they *did* know. ..... Posted by: @JohnTant at May 29, 2013 07:57 AM **** Look, the GOP was trying to defeat Ted Cruz and threw huge money at him for Dewhurst. We are their enemy because we oppose the system of largesse and kickbacks.

124

JackStraw at May 29, 2013 08:02 AM (g1DWB)

 

What "proof" did the IG have a year ago? 

 

I'm saying back in 2010, Tea Party groups were on the receiving end of a lot of crap, they certainly knew it, and enough of them complained to the RNC to discern a pattern.  Michael Steele didn't want to deal with it, and apparently in 2012 when the pattern was more complete, Romney didn't want to do it either. 

 

And Romney even took a pass on Fast and Furious. 

 

Wouldn't have taken much "proof" to start publicizing the questionnaires Tea Party groups were receiving back in 2010 and start calling for more investigations.  The RNC and Romney apparently didn't want to do that - assuming they were even talking to Tea Party groups at all.

125 Plus it's problematic when any house member runs for President, unless they are Dems like Kucinich, recall what happened to Dornan, Hunter got a replacement,

126 Oooh... Zombie John Gotti, you are an asshole, according to Dale Gribble...

Posted by: M. Murcek at May 29, 2013 08:05 AM (GJUgF)

Oh well.  It wouldn't be the first time I was called that.  I just can't stand people who don't realize that they are wholly unsuited for a job especially when our nation's future is involved.

127 "... two hundred million guns are loaded, Satan cries take aim! ... Over on the mountain, thunder magic spoke: 'Let the people know my wisdom, fill the land with smoke' ..."

128 Actually that is a ratings hell for the Network, but I'd like to see it. 2 teams I actually do NOT hate and might even have a few redeeming human beings on them


100 percent agree. I hope their ratings go in the tank. Tim Duncan is the epitome of class and actually would watch roughly 10 minutes of each game rather than 0 minutes if the "king" were in it. Watching Dallas and some white guy take the Heat in six a couple of years ago was a crowing achievement.

129 People who do not 100% agree with YOU are kos kids.  Great.  Yes, I can SEE your grey roots.  Your breath IS stinky in the morning.  You DO have cellulite.  You have NO idea how to do an over easy egg.  No, I'm not coming back to bed, I'm an asshole, but not an idiot...

130 Posted by: The Prophet John Fogerty at May 29, 2013 08:08 AM I always liked "Who'll Stop The Rain" It's about the MSM and their Orwellian propaganda machine

131 Michelle Backman said it was "rape, but not rape-rape."

132 For about the tenth fucking time, there were 132 inquiries made by congressmen of the IRS based on constituent complaints about this issue over 2 years. And IRS personnel lied to congress when directly questioned on this point on several occasions. The only reason we have confirmation about it at this point is because of an internal audit requested by Darrell Issa. But, yeah, conspiracy theories are fun, so knock yourselves out.

133 I was going to say "crowning" achievement but "crowing" is not too bad especially after reading all the bigoted comments about Nowitzkie.

134

>>>Posted by: @JohnTant at May 29, 2013 07:57 AM

 

You know that as far back as 2011, GOP reps -- including dreaded "Establishment" congresscritters -- were complaining about IRS targeting, right? In fact, they demanded answers from IRS, which told them there was no targeting.

 

What else did you want them and Romney to do?

135 Posted by: M. Murcek at May 29, 2013 08:10 AM (GJUgF)


I used to post with regularity with the exception of the last two years. My advice to you as a new guy is to subtly bring you game instead of coming here and shitting all over the carpet. If you can't do that then you are the troll they are comparing you to.

136

Andy at May 29, 2013 08:11 AM (li+aS)

 

I don't think it's a "conspiracy  theory" to wonder why those Congressmen didn't make a big(ger) deal of their inquiries to the voting public. 

 

Seems pretty simple to me, at least to someone who favors bare knuckle politics.  Show a questionnaire received by a targeted group.  Publicize the inquiry.  Point out the IRS response/lie  and juxtapose it against the questionnaire.

 

The mistake apparently was the GOP going  directly  to the IRS instead of making a campaign issue out of it.

137 >>And Romney even took a pass on Fast and Furious. >>Wouldn't have taken much "proof" to start publicizing the questionnaires Tea Party groups were receiving back in 2010 and start calling for more investigations. The RNC and Romney apparently didn't want to do that - assuming they were even talking to Tea Party groups at all. And? How much has Fast and Furious hurt Obama or helped any Republican? Zero. How enraged is the general public now that they know the IRS was targeting specific conservative groups? Not very much. We all saw Romney try to dig in with Obama about Benghazi during the debates and he got attacked by the frigging moderator. Did the msm go batshit when Harry Reid announced that he had proof that Romney didn't pay taxes because a friend of his had seen his returns? No, they went after Romney. Romney went after Obama hammer and tong on Obamacare, SS, illegal immigration .. every 3rd rail you can think of but you honestly believe he would have won big if he had just mentioned that there were reports that conservative groups were being unfairly targeted? Okie dokie.

138 I'd rather watch the Royals play the Mariners than any NBA game involving the Heat. LeBron was dead to me the minute he lead his teammates in the Moment of Hoodie silence of Trayvon. Asshole. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 29, 2013 08:12 AM (OWjjx) Ditto

139

Today is the 60th anniversary of New Zealander Sir Edmund Hillary and Nepalese Sherpa Tenzing Norgay reaching the summit of Mt. Everest.

 

And the HildeBeast's mommy named her after this not yet famous man. Lying cow.

140 Samuel Adams: Was lurking here and then commenting long before your beer sucked...

141 She had a point flagging Huma, who stepped down shortly after her letter in June, so she could snag the consulting gig that financed Weiner's comeback.

142

Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 08:12 AM (B2LxR)

 

See 142.  If they had enough of an inkling to write a letter to the IRS, they had enough to make a campaign issue out of it.

 

And where did I mention the "establishment" dichotomy? 

143 Samuel Adams: Was lurking here and then commenting long before your beer sucked...


You just made my point. Make sure your turds are relatively hard, easier to clean up.

144 I used to post with regularity with the exception of the last two years. My advice to you as a new guy is to subtly bring you game instead of coming here and shitting all over the carpet. If you can't do that then you are the troll they are comparing you to. Posted by: Samuel Adams at May 29, 2013 08:14 AM (cK0tU) This. Very much this.

145 Today is the 60th anniversary of New Zealander Sir Edmund Hillary I got confused about that naming thing because I was taking enemy fire at the time and Huma was rubbin' that shit in my face.

146

Its the fucking Canadian Illuminati and their domination of the world media!

 

Take off, hoser.

147

Romney went after Obama hammer and tong on Obamacare, SS, illegal immigration .. every 3rd rail you can think of but you honestly believe he would have won big if he had just mentioned that there were reports that conservative groups were being unfairly targeted?

Okie dokie.

JackStraw at May 29, 2013 08:15 AM (g1DWB)

 

Well, I'd disagree with Romney going hammer and tong on all of that, but that aside...

 

The IRS is pretty much universally reviled, even among the LIVs.  It is an  issue that has legs, even at this late date.

 

My take is that the Romney people wanted to play nice and portray Obama as a nice fella who was out of his depth, not someone who was acting maliciously.  Since the IRS actions didn't fit into that narrative, they took a pass on pursuing it.

 

But hey, if you don't think that any of this IRS stuff matters for 2014, we should just let it go since we tried to criticize Obamacare but still lost the Presidential election.....?

 

148 You just made my point. Eric Holder wants to use that one...

149 Good luck making a campaign issue out of it in 2012 when the Donks and their media allies will counter by running a clip of the IRS commissioner testifying under oath that there's no targeting.

150 "We are their enemy because we oppose the system of largesse and kickbacks." And there it is right there. The politicians who get attacked by the "statist quo" (hat tip to the commenter who gave us that one) are the ones both "sides of the aisle" are afraid of. Their lives of living large on the backs of taxpayers might receive too much exposure.

151 What do you suppose the progressives would have done if there was this burbling about the IRS targeting say environmental groups or civil rights groups? What do you suppose would be the reaction if the donks were hearing about GOP senetors writing letters.to complain about historically black churches allowing Democrats to hold campaign rallies in their churches? One side fights, one side takes it up the ass.

152 Its the fucking Canadian Illuminati and their domination of the world media! {i}

Yeah, probably these guys.


http://binged.it/13ig00h

153 >> But hey, if you don't think that any of this IRS stuff matters for 2014 It matters in 2014 because of facts that were unavailable in 2012.

154 Today is the 60th anniversary of New Zealander Sir Edmund Hillary and Nepalese Sherpa Tenzing Norgay reaching the summit of Mt. Everest.

And the HildeBeast's mommy named her after this not yet famous man. Lying cow.

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 29, 2013 08:15 AM (PBm/l)

Even though HRC was born 6 years before he climbed Everest.

155

>>> And Romney even took a pass on Fast and Furious.

First google hit for "Romney fast and furious."

http://goo.gl/U5h9k 

Presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney is ripping President Barack Obama for his transparency failures when it comes to the Operation Fast and Furious scandal and other matters.

 

Look, there's plenty to hit Romney on without just making shit up, guys.

156

Good luck making a campaign issue out of it in 2012 when the Donks and their media allies will counter by running a clip of the IRS commissioner testifying under oath that there's no targeting.

 

Andy at May 29, 2013 08:21 AM (li+aS)

 

And then you point out the guy's statement in contrast with the questionnaire sent out and then connect the dots.

 

That the media is in the tank for Obama is not news, and it's a worn-out excuse I think.

157 157 Teej,

They are stealing billions and probably more like trillions if you count the civil service racket and to what?

Pass anti-fracking bills in states like Cali that obviously have such roaring economies they don't need billions....

Let it burn

158 clip of the IRS commissioner testifying under oath that there's no targeting.

This. The GOP will not pursue criminal perjury so, they will wind up with shit all over their collective faces once again.

159 You know that as far back as 2011, GOP reps -- including dreaded "Establishment" congresscritters -- were complaining about IRS targeting, right? In fact, they demanded answers from IRS, which told them there was no targeting. What else did you want them and Romney to do? Posted by: Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 08:12 AM (B2LxR) I believe the lesson here is lie your asses off. It works. Because as we all know, if you have a criticism of your opponent, and he says, oh, that's not true, that should be the end of it.

160 Well, now that we have ironclad proof that the IRS and the Justice Dept. was engaged in widespread voter suppression and intimidation of the press the GOP in the House could announce that they are closed for business until a House approved special prosecutor is appointed and some people are fired and go to jail.

161 She was another tough woman, more balls than most of the men in Congress. Like someone said above, I'm glad she's on our side.

It was the resignation of DeMint that freaked me out the most.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 29, 2013 07:26 AM (XYSwB)

 

I agree, Bachmann has more balls than Boehner! 

With the exception of her attempted run for GOP nominee, at least we know how she stands. She always stood up for our country, instead of her best interests.

162 Boehner's greatest accomplishment as Speaker was getting Michelle Obama to hunker down into a defensive, reflexive, territorial stance over her plate of lobster and Wagyu.

163 Of course that might interfere with the amnesty train......

164 Is there an equivalent to Godwin's Law that says "when turds are mentioned, the argument is over?" I nominate MMurcek's Law for the name...

165 Hello, they had a hearing on the 'October Surprise' a fever dream of the left, in 1991, with Foley saying 'the seriousness of the charge' not any evidence  mattered.

166

 

First google hit for "Romney fast and furious."
http://goo.gl/U5h9k
Presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney is ripping President Barack Obama for his transparency failures when it comes to the Operation Fast and Furious scandal and other matters.

Look, there's plenty to hit Romney on without just making shit up, guys.

 

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 08:23 AM (B2LxR)

 

That was written 12:05 PM 07/17/2012.  And it was a criticism of a lack of transparency.  Pretty soft stuff, I think.

 

Plus I don't believe Romney even kept up with that milquetoast criticism.  He preferred to try and focus on economic issues, not evidence of Presidential malfeasance.

167 166 blaster,

yeah it worked wonders for Bush in the wake of Katrina didn't it?

"I did not personally steer the hurricane into NOLA, and I did not order FEMA to fuck over NOLA, I was not in fact jerking off to their plight..."

//GW Bush

168 And the beer still sucks and there are no good over easy eggs...

169 Boehner's leadership style Glug glug glug until he bends over. Makes it more comfortable for him.

170 Not to mention the press saying bad things about them....

171 167 Well, now that we have ironclad proof that the IRS and the Justice Dept. was engaged in widespread voter suppression and intimidation of the press the GOP in the House could announce that they are closed for business until a House approved special prosecutor is appointed and some people are fired and go to jail. The fact that this will never happen is proof positive that there is little difference between them and the donks. At least the dems are somewhat honest about their aims.

172 >> And then you point out the guy's statement in contrast with the questionnaire sent out and then connect the dots. "We're just loyal public servants looking out for the taxpayer. This is part of our normal process for vetting applications. Blah, blah, blah." Yeah. I can see how some he-said/she-said stuff about the IRS's process for approving applications for tax exempt status under section 501(c)(4) of the Internal Revenue Code would get people rushing to the polls.

173 The Dems are counting on the IRS not being an issue in 2014 by releasing all this shit in the spring of 2013. I disagree. With the exception of Federal workers, everyone hates the IRS even famous black guys. I know that most of the shit going on will go away because LIV's will go back to summer reruns and some Kardashian scrunt being a baby momma. But I don't care, the IRS scandal has legs.

174 Sam Adams is interested in the IRS alla sudden.  Tired of talking about turds...

175

>>>That was written 12:05 PM 07/17/2012. And it was a criticism of a lack of transparency. Pretty soft stuff, I think.

 

Fine, how 'bout when he brought it up in the October 16 debate:

“The greatest failure we’ve had with regards to gun violence, in some respects,” Romney said, “is what is known as ‘Fast and Furious,’ which was a program under this administration. And how it worked exactly — I think we don’t know precisely — but where thousands of automatic and AK-47-type weapons were given to people that ultimately gave them to drug lords [in Mexico].”

“They used those weapons against their own citizens and killed Americans with them. And was a program of the government.”

Look, I'm not going to do your homework for you. You claimed that Romney "took a pass" on Fast and Furious. That's false. I have demonstrated it is false. You either remembered wrong or you're just making shit up to suit your prejudices.

As I said before, there's plent of things to hit Romney over, made-up bullshit says more about the bullshitter than it does about Romney.

176 >>Well, I'd disagree with Romney going hammer and tong on all of that, but that aside... They you didn't watch the election. Romney went the NAACP and made the centerpiece of his speech taking down Obamacare. He went to Florida and Arizona to talk about reforming SS. He was absolutely the most aggressive Republican in the race when it came to illegal immigration. >>But hey, if you don't think that any of this IRS stuff matters for 2014, we should just let it go since we tried to criticize Obamacare but still lost the Presidential election.....? And yet I never said that. I've been saying here since the IG report came out that this is the one scandal that can really hurt Obama. But it won't be overnight as much as we all might want it to. We have an opponent who has lied, misled and refused to turn over documents for years. It's going to take a lot of hearings and time to get the proof that will really galvanize people who only moderately pay attention to politics, i.e. the vast majority of the voting public. So no, I don't think that if Romney or the RNC had made a big deal of complaints that certain Tea Party groups, groups thanks to the msm that are about as popular as diphtheria with the general public, that they were being targeted by the IRS when applying for tax free status was going to turn the tide. In fact, I think it might have hurt because without proof it would have allowed the msm and team Obama to point out once again how crazed the Tea Party and conservatives truly are. But you may be right, look how enraged, ENRAGED, the general public is right now about the IRS scandal.

177 Ok all, have to share the misery. Any radio talk show listeners in here - if so you may have heard this song regarding the Jersey Shore. Does it grate on you the way it does me? http://tinyurl.com/qzzwqlj (autoplay) because we're stongerrrrr than the stormmmmmm Damn it's annoying.

178 >> Because as we all know, if you have a criticism of your opponent, and he says, oh, that's not true, that should be the end of it. But it wasn't the end of it. Again, the only reason we have confirmation now is because of an internal audit requested by Issa.

179

Andy at May 29, 2013 08:29 AM (li+aS)

 

So the better strategy is to do nothing, even though there's a genuine scandal there?

 

If the GOP leadership wasn't willing to make a case to the voters then that's a problem.  Lord knows the Dems don't let a little he said she said get in the way of their narratives.....

180 Michelle Bachmann was easy on the eyes, like a sign w 9-9-9 in the sky

181 All of the Executive branch people who have  demonstrably lied  to Congress, whether under oath or not but especially if under oath,  need to to relieved of their jobs right the fuck away.

182

Bachmann? I always thought she was overrated. remember the anti-vaccine bandwaggon she hooked on to? The hiding in bushes to spy on some sort of gay rights rally? The lady had issues.

But I think that she would have won re-election in 2014 so I donÂ’t think it was motivated by fear of losing a race. IÂ’ll give her this, not enough congresscritters are able to step away after a short time in the House. If more did I think weÂ’d be better off.

183

Bachman.

 

 

NO body will ever be good enough for conservatives. We eat our own. The experiment is over.

184 * crickets *

185 EC, are you here? It looks like your request from yesterday morning will be granted. I may have also gotten a spare for BCochran and one other lucky Moron. If and when I receive them, I will need y'all to email me an address.

186

>>They you didn't watch the election. Romney went the NAACP and made the centerpiece of his speech taking down Obamacare. He went to Florida and Arizona to talk about reforming SS. He was absolutely the most aggressive Republican in the race when it came to illegal immigration. 

 

----------

 

I think yours is a subjective measure and I disagree.  I didn't see him hit nearly as hard as I think he should have on any of that.

 

>>And yet I never said that. I've been saying here since the IG report came out that this is the one scandal that can really hurt Obama. But it won't be overnight as much as we all might want it to. 

 

-----------

 

But by your standard, the IG would have taken a pass on it as well.  And I think it could have gone a long way in avoiding a 2012 loss if the GOP pushed harder for an investigation back in 2010.

187 Compare Michelle Bachmann to any of the rat-faced bitches on the Left. Pelosi, Warren, Clinton, she out classes them all, first in looks and then with her career/life choices. I hope she gets a TV show somewhere, makes millions.

188 If you want to know how the Special Forces and the military feel about Benghazi and Obama, take a look at this 50-second video !!Short and to-the-point.

http://blustream.sendvideo.net/stw/?p=nyi907f2201klkgtjiy

189 190 Cicero Kid,

I think you misspelled "republicans" bachman is an interesting case study in the inability of the GOP coalition to cover down ala Donkey coverage for Hank Johnson et al...
yes now some RINO will thump its chest and say "we are BETTER than that and the public yadda yadda" if there's room for Nanzi "pass it to let people be artists" Pelousy there was room for Ms Tardasil....

ah well fuck it... just another brick in the wall

190 AuthorLMendez: you are, according to esteemed commenters here, a turd and a kos kid.  Don't worry, you'll live...

191 Correction...
If you want to know how the Special Forces and the military feel about Benghazi and TFG, take a look at this 50-second video !!
Short and to-the-point.

http://blustream.sendvideo.net/stw/?p=nyi907f2201klkgtjiyv

192 197 M. Murkanzki,

nice hash tag sport

193 192 EC, are you here? It looks like your request from yesterday morning will be granted. I may have also gotten a spare for BCochran and one other lucky Moron. If and when I receive them, I will need y'all to email me an address. Posted by: DangerGirl @deadlyestrogen at May 29, 2013 08:36 AM (x1L8S) I'm here! Now what are we talking about?

194

"You know, it's a mystery to me why any conservative would even go into politics."

 

It goes beyond  "conservative".  Why would any normal, well-adjusted person get into politics?  What kind of maniac wishes to endure the 24/7 media rectal, the fact that  half the country hates your guts the moment you declare,  horse trading above doing the right thing, constant pandering to raise funds, etc.?

 

What kind of maniac?  Usually a malignant narcissist who doesn't care what people think about him just so long as people think about him as he's playing  games with their lives.  The kind of person who will pig out at the public trough and do literally anything to maintain his spot "because he's better and  he deserves it".

 

It is the truly rare bird who breaks that mold.

195 Syrian Islamist Rebels Vow To “Chase Down Hezbollah Even In Hell”… Sounds good to me. Via JPost: Brig.-Gen. Salim Idris, the head of the Western-backed Syrian rebel group, said on Tuesday that unless Hezbollah attacks were halted within 24 hours, the rebels would “chase down” the terrorist group. the more dead the merrier

196 I completely fail to understand why we should celebrate a weak Speaker of the House other than the fact that Boehner doesn't have the power to get his personal RINO agenda through. And I don't completely agree with this because we've already seen him do this in some instances. Also re: pork, it's been shown repeatedly that although earmarks look bad, they don't end up being nearly as damaging as really bad legislation.

Boehner has repeatedly violated the Hassert Rule and allowed legislation to pass with votes of liberal Republicans and Democrats and against the strong objections of conservatives. This kind of thing along with trying to strong-arm conservatives and messing with committee assignments sows dissension among the House and is destructive, encouraging dissension, back-stabbing and leaks.

At a time when we could use a strong, determined voice to speak out against all the scandals, to demand accountability, to represent the Republican party in front of the TV cameras and speak to why Republican & conservative values that include a less centralized all-powerful large government would benefit the American people, we have....weakness.

197 "you are, according to esteemed commenters here, a turd and a kos kid."

i'm also a vetran of ace's going back to 2008. getting sensitive over what people think of me here would be un-moron of me. if people think I'm a kos kid after I sent money to Republican groups and voted against Obama twice that's their prerogative.

198 IÂ’ll give her this, not enough congresscritters are able to step away after a short
time in the House. If more did I think weÂ’d be better off. Posted by: AuthorLMendez at May 29, 2013 08:34 AM

Bachmann spent EIGHT YEARS in the House. That anyone considers this a "short time" reveals one of the current major problems we face.

Relegating the "career politician" to Passenger Pigeon status (extinct) would go a long way toward fixing the mess. Congress would be much better off (and so would we) if fuckweasels like Reid, Bitch McCullough, Pelosi and Boner knew they'd automatically be sent to the glue factory after six years.

199 EC, are you here? It looks like your request from yesterday morning will be granted. I may have also gotten a spare for BCochran and one other lucky Moron.

If and when I receive them, I will need y'all to email me an address.



Oh my gentle Jesus!!!  WOOOOOOOT!!!

DangerGirl, you are the best!

200

Look, I'm not going to do your homework for you. You claimed that Romney "took a pass" on Fast and Furious. That's false. I have demonstrated it is false. Youeither remembered wrong or you're just making shit up to suit your prejudices.
As I said before, there's plent of things to hit Romney over, made-up bullshit says more about the bullshitter than it does about Romney.

 

Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 08:31 AM (B2LxR)

 

And again, as I said, pretty milquetoast stuff because he cast it as some unknown policy instead of direct malfeasance, and criticized Obama on hypocrisy grounds.

 

From where I sit, that's giving Obama a pass because it opens the door for Obama to claim ignorance and blame Bush, both of which Obama did. 

 

So no, I'm not making shit up.  I'm saying I don't believe Romney went after Fast and Furious in any effective way, which amounts to taking a pass on it.

 

BTW, I've not attacked you personally at all on this, and yet here you are calling me a liar/fantasist.  I think that's pretty scummy, honestly.

201 How would Reagan be perceived through today's media?

202 Boehner seems like a nice guy and I don't buy he's as in with Obama as some think but I agree he's clearly not fit for being speaker of the opposing party. I wanted him replaced back in January for this reason.

203 They went after the Tea Party, hammer and tongue, and then they fielded the Occupy team, which we thought were a joke, well it worked didn't it.

204 A very possible reason why Holder is not going to resign or be fired: Oh, everyone knows Holder should be dead meat. The Obama folks simply want the GOP to attack a black man, so as to continue the paranoia in the African-American community about white racism so as to maintain support, with the understanding that overwhelming support of blacks is a force-multiplier, because so many white idealisitc types will defer to the desires of that commnity (unthinkingly), out of a well-meaning but misguided wish to build a new mankind/society. The GOP knows this at some level, and in fact may not attack (I think they will, but only because the pressure is there) which means we continue to put into place a paradigm of supporting, at the end of the day, corruption and double-standards that will eventually lead to Orwellian tyranny in a few generations or less. It is as cynical a piece of demagougic work as ever seen in America. Let us hear no more of Nixon's "Southern strategy" and "dogwhistle" appeals, because that is exactly what is going to happen, and is happening, here (and has bern, elsewhere). The dogwhistle of "they are just racists, just haters". When one day absolutely no objective of integrity, no standards, are left, but that which pleases the politically-involved Progressive, do not be surprised. And I would suggest that when that day arrives, that you do not speak up against it, because you will be defeated in detail. A conniving, low-information voter-appealing boot on the human face, forever. That is what you will have, and what you will not be able to change or challenge except at great personal cost. Enjoy it.

205 Posted by: M. Murcek at May 29, 2013 08:38 AM (GJUgF)


No, you're the only turd here this morning. By the way troll fuckstick, since you seem to have all the answers, who is your guy to lead us away from all this dumbfuckery?

206 >>But by your standard, the IG would have taken a pass on it as well. And I think it could have gone a long way in avoiding a 2012 loss if the GOP pushed harder for an investigation back in 2010. By what standard ... what? Issa is the one who got the audit started. This is phase 1 in this type of investigation, an audit and not an investigation. All the audit does is show inconsistencies, it does not by design look for the guilty. We are now getting to the investigation phase. This is how it works. You can be pissed at the process but this is the process and there's not a damn thing Issa, Boehner, Romney or anyone else could have done about it in 2010 when the targeting started. We can disagree that it would have had a positive affect on the election, we'll never know, but we do know there was absolutely zero proof of targeting until about 2 weeks ago.

207 Bachmann's too thin to be a good candidate.

208 >>It is the truly rare bird who breaks that mold. Posted by: Jaws at May 29, 2013 08:39 AM (4I3Uo) Time to change the mold.

209
Now what are we talking about?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 29, 2013 08:39 AM (da5Wo)

Autographed glossies of Andrea Tantaros.  Otherwise known as "teh precious".

210 Ok, which one of you morons was this?



Man brings his pony in liquor store....



http://tinyurl.com/q7qkx6b

211 "Bachmann spent EIGHT YEARS in the House. That anyone considers this a "short time" reveals one of the current major problems we face."

8 years in the House is short compared to most congressmen and women

212 Bitch McCullough

Bitch McConnell, of course.

213 Let's review the candidates we have seen over the last few years.  Equal amounts of hatred have been expressed over Bachmann and Palin,  who as far as I can tell have not been any crazier than Newt or Rand Paul,  just on different issues.  

Perry was a flop because he wasn't a silver-tongued orator and stumbled in the debates.  Can was fine until Gloria Allred showed up with her usual women as victims mode.  The fact that Cain was still married to his first wife while Newt was a thrice-married type was apparently not worthy of comment.

I could go on.  Every single person in the GOP wants THEIR candidate and if they don't get THAT candidate,  they will spend the rest of their days proving,  with geometrical logic,  that THEY ARE BY GOD RIGHT AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN LISTENED TO!

I despair.  No one sees that this constant tearing down of candidates is destructive to the party AND to conservatism.

This comment will probably elicit additional snarky comments,  but I stand by it. 

214 Autographed glossies of Andrea Tantaros. Otherwise known as "teh precious". Posted by: EC at May 29, 2013 08:42 AM (GQ8sn) Holy moly. DangerGirl, if it wouldn't be a footrace to see who would kill me first (my wife or your husband), you'd be getting a big ol kiss and a drink.

215 AuthorLMendez, I'll drink with you any time in the Klingon manner. No Samuel Adams and no turds...

216

JackStraw at May 29, 2013 08:42 AM (g1DWB)

 

Didn't you suggest  that the GOP leadership couldn't be expected to make an issue out of something because the IRS guy  denied under oath that  there was goofy stuff going on?

 

So what issue would there be to insist on an investigation?

 

 

217

Obama calls tornado ravaged town by the wrong name. Can you imagine if Bush did that? O'Rourke was right, Obama is stupid.

218 Apparently Britons want their guns back:
http://tinyurl.com/pqd9k5u

219 Mendez, you're good. Just ignore the troll.

220 Behold Samuel Adams. "My two true answers to everything are quitters. Who are yours?"  I guess that is how turds argue...

221 DangerGirl, if it wouldn't be a footrace to see who would kill me first (my wife or your husband), you'd be getting a big ol kiss and a drink.

Here, here! 

Thank you, very much DG!

222 >>Didn't you suggest that the GOP leadership couldn't be expected to make an issue out of something because the IRS guy denied under oath that there was goofy stuff going on? No.

223 Well, now that we have ironclad proof that the IRS and the Justice Dept. was engaged in widespread voter suppression and intimidation of the press the GOP in the House could announce that they are closed for business until a House approved special prosecutor is appointed and some people are fired and go to jail.

 

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at May 29, 2013 08:24 AM (M8WWt)

 

But the optics!  And the loss of comity!  The NYT will say mean things about us!  People will hate us!  Obama won't bring us flowers any more!

224 BTW, I've not attacked you personally at all on this, and yet here you are calling me a liar/fantasist. I think that's pretty scummy, honestly.

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 29, 2013 08:41 AM (tVWQB)

-- That is how it rolls

225 Miss Marple I agree there's a tad too much infighting and a tad too much of the "take our ball and go home" attitude (as we saw in 2008 and 2012). But it's always healthy to not be afraid to question your own party. Had we done this more under Dubya we wouldn't be climbing out of this hole we dug ourselves in electorally from 2005-2008

226 8 years in the House is short compared to most congressmen and women
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at May 29, 2013 08:43 AM

That's my point, obviously.

The worthless Democrat POS running for Senate in MA has spent his entire friggin' so-called adult life as a "servant of the people." That's something like 37 years.

To me, that's like putting someone on Special Welfare forever. The difference, of course, is that he gets a whole hell of a lot more from taxpayers than a Section 8 voucher and EBT card.

And it needs to stop.

227 Dammit. Would you morons please return the library's only copy of "How To Win Friends And Influence People." Fucker is getting dog-eared as of late and we may need to replace.

228 Posted by: M. Murcek at May 29, 2013 08:46 AM (GJUgF)


Run along son and get me a cup of coffee on your way out.

229

>>>BTW, I've not attacked you personally at all on this, and yet here you are calling me a liar/fantasist.

 

I also said you could have a bad memory.

230 As a clarification--the "well-meaning but misguided desire to build a new mankind/society" is misguided when it does not apply objective standards of integrity evenly across the board. You just simply take a man, and his demands, as they are, no more, no less. Do not make unchallengeable saints out of mere mortal men. Do not make an entire class into your Levites of the new brotherhood, your priests of all that is good. For, as they are but men, you will have cause to regret it.

231 8 years would be a great start, but I don't believe in term limits except as passed by individual States. There is no way places like MA would ever do it, whereas a State like Texas might. Result would be not good. A Constitutional Amendment providing for term limits would be quite a battle and I'd have to really study it before deciding to lend support. If voters had any balls/brains, incumbents wouldn't be winning ten or fifteen elections in a row.

232 I have no idea what's up with the fight involving "turds" right now but I just want to be on record of not knowing what's going on and who/who isn't a troll. I left one of the ace's groups to get away from this stuff more.

233 I also said you could have a bad memory. Posted by: Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 08:48 AM (B2LxR) *snickering* Nice.

234 "If voters had any balls/brains, incumbents wouldn't be winning ten or fifteen elections in a row."

bingo

235

>>Know what? Everyone, well everyone paying attention, heard that the Tea Party and other conservative groups were complaining about the IRS. What proof did anyone have a year ago that they were in fact targeting those groups?

-----

 

>>We have an opponent who has lied, misled and refused to turn over documents for years. It's going to take a lot of hearings and time to get the proof that will really galvanize people who only moderately pay attention to politics, i.e. the vast majority of the voting public.

----

 

Well, JackStraw, that's what I'm reading from you.  If there wasn't enough proof to make a campaign issue out of it, what proof existed that was sufficient for the IG to spend resources to begin to investigate it?

 

 

236 Crazy eyes checking out. Now we need a 12 step program for Palin addicts... Posted by: M. Murcek at May 29, 2013 07:08 AM (GJUgF) The only thing wrong with Palin is that the Liberal Democrats who run the media and social circuits detested her with a blue passion from hell. Which tells me she was exactly the medicine we needed.

237 111 Indiana vs San Antonio. A An NBA Finals made in ratings heaven. Posted by: zeera at May 29, 2013 07:57 AM (3dXwx) FIFY

238 Cup of turds or cup of bad beer, sam? Either would suit you...

239 I have a feeling that these green cars just ain't ready for the big-time yet. Electric car startup Better Place liquidating after $850 million investment http://tinyurl.com/ozztgnx In 2008, Better Place partnered with Renault to build an electric car and create a system of battery swapping stations along highways, similar to gas stations. However, the concept never gained momentum, with fewer than 1,500 electric cars operating in Israel and Denmark today. 850 million investment - 1500 cars. TOO. BIG. TOO. FAIL.

240 114 For those not paying attention, I'm the one who calls out assholes like MMurcek who attack TEA Party Sarah Palin conservatives.

FIFY

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 29, 2013 08:00 AM (OWjjx)

 

I'm the one who calls out assholes like MMurcek who attack Sarah Palin, Pat Toomey, Marco Rubio and now Michelle Bachman.

 

 

 

241 TOO-TO

242 Posted by: M. Murcek at May 29, 2013 08:50 AM (GJUgF) Gabe? Andy? Bueller? All this is, is a shit-stirrrer. Can we bounce this crap?

243 "Indiana vs San Antonio. A An NBA Finals made in ratings heaven."

San Antonio will eat them alive. I'm a Heat fan but if they get past the Pacers I highly doubt they'll beat the Spurs. the Heat are clearly a good team and could end up champs again but I don't think they are as good as people hype them up to be.

244 I'm working through whether or not we should repay bambi for Iraq if/when he starts another war w/out Congressional approval....

245

Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 08:48 AM (B2LxR)

 

And the snark is unwarranted.  You don't have absolute dominion over the interpretation of events. 

 

Romney effectively took a pass on F&F by talking about it in the most milquetoast of ways.  He never pursued it the way it should have been pursued, and I believe if he didn't have at least a fair inkling of the IRS issue then  he should have.

246 I voted for Toomey, sent him money too.  Not happy about his anti-gun bullshit, but I'll vote for him again ahead of sestak, asshole that I am...

247 A cup of Shittle-Brau would be lovely this fine morn.

248 8 years would be a great start, but I don't believe in term limits except as passed by individual States. There is no way places like MA would ever do it, whereas a State like Texas might. Result would be not good. A Constitutional Amendment providing for term limits would be quite a battle and I'd have to really study it before deciding to lend support. If voters had any balls/brains, incumbents wouldn't be winning ten or fifteen elections in a row. Posted by: lincolntf at May 29, 2013 08:49 AM (ZshNr) Several amendments have lowered the competency requirements of the electorate. They were all mistakes. Electoral access should always hinge on who pays the bill.

249 Speaker Boehner's leadership style, he cups the balls.

250 "Romney effectively took a pass on FF by talking about it in the most milquetoast of ways."

I would agree with this, however keep in mind that come that foreign policy debate Romney's pollsters were telling him he was going to win a close race. Unfortunately for them they were counting on a much more balanced electorate while they were botching GOTV compared to the Obama's team superior turn out machine.

251 I could go on. Every single person in the GOP wants THEIR candidate and if they don't get THAT candidate, they will spend the rest of their days proving, with geometrical logic, that THEY ARE BY GOD RIGHT AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN LISTENED TO
**************************************************
Preach it, sister! Even in the run-up to the nomination, it's a life and death battle that never sleeps. It's really quite an unusual phenomenon to observe.

I was impressed how pretty much everyone accepted Romney once he received the nomination - eventually (either that or they disappeared off the site).  I was not a Romney person but once he was nominated and the campaign began, I really got on board and felt hopeful. Well, we all know how that turned out.

252 I think there were myriad things wrong with the Romney campaign. It was an odd thing, sometimes they displayed flashes of brilliance, but often they thought they were playing it safe. Didn't want to be seen as too critical of Obama. The audacity of Obama is that he and his crew just lie. I think that Obama is stupid yet clever - he knows that it doesn't matter that he is stupid, or that he lies. Regardless, I don't think Romney would have turned the corner with the IRS story. Really, people care now? Not so much.

253

You know what's interesting....

 

If I came here in 2010 and said that the IRS was deliberately targeting Tea Party groups, Gabe and co. would have written me off as a conspiracy theorist.

254 "Several amendments have lowered the competency requirements of the electorate. They were all mistakes. Electoral access should always hinge on who pays the bill."

Controversial comments today, but the harsh truth. People who aren't aware of how DC works and/or don't pay taxes should not be voting.

255

Gabe? Andy? Bueller?


All this is, is a shit-stirrrer. Can we bounce this crap

 

LGF in 3 -2 - 1...

256 All this is, is a shit-stirrrer. Can we bounce this crap? Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 29, 2013 08:52 AM (da5Wo) I don't recognize the name. My initial impulse was "agent provocateur."

257

AuthorLMendez at May 29, 2013 08:55 AM (yAor6)

 

Agreed, and I hope we can agree that the third debate turned out to be a disaster for Romney. 

 

 

258 If you don't like Michele Bachmann, it's whatever. But there's no need to be bitchy about it.

259

Good video

http://tinyurl.com/p7pv38t

260 >>Well, JackStraw, that's what I'm reading from you. If there wasn't enough proof to make a campaign issue out of it, what proof existed that was sufficient for the IG to spend resources to begin to investigate it? Words actually matter. You previously asked if I thought that the Repub leadership didn't make a big deal of this during the election because the head of the IRS lied. That's not what I said. I said they had no proof of anything illegal, hell not even immoral or fattening. What they had was evidence that certain conservative groups were being asked to jump through ridiculous steps to get tax free status. They did not have proof of anything else. Not even proof that liberal groups weren't also being targeted for tax free status. And thats what this is about, tax free status for the most part. And whether we like it or not the Tea Party is not popular with the general public thanks to constant negative reporting by the msm. I do not think emphasizing to the average voter that a largely unpopular group was complaining that the IRS was making it difficult for them to not pay taxes was going to be a winner. That has nothing to do with removing people from office for illegal acts. Your mileage may differ.

261 I don't recognize the name. My initial impulse was "agent provocateur." Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 29, 2013 08:57 AM (bb5+k) It's been around. Searching the hash results in a bunch of comments similar to today's.

262 I don't believe in term limits.  I think elected officials should be paid the mean salary of the people they represent.  Maybe then they'd be more connected to their constituencies.

263 #232  Well,  I wouldn't say that Bush wasn't questioned or opposed.  I seem to remember the kerfuffle over Harriet Meiers,  the immigration debate,  complaints about "No Child Left Behind,"  and complaints about medicare Part D.

I also seem to remember a lot of cowards wringing their hands over the Iraq War surge as well.

How much dissent do you want a sitting president to have to endure?  My personal opinion is that the irrational hatred for Harriet Meiers and the failure of people to understand that McCain's immigration plan was not the one W submitted was by far and away the cause of his falling support which lost us the House in 2006.  

I notice the pundits and radio talk show hosts remain gainfully employed.  THEIR reputations seem secure,  no matter hat bird-brained candidate they support nor what issue the push.

264 No, but f you like Bachmann be bitchy as hell.  Is that what you are saying?

265 I like Bachmann too. Those who don't can go rim McCain.

266 compared to the Obama's team superior turn out machine. Posted by: AuthorLMendez at May 29, 2013 08:55 AM (yAor6) Which we otherwise refer to as the News and Entertainment industries.

267 "Obama calls tornado ravaged town by the wrong name.... O'Rourke was right, Obama is stupid." : Minnfidel really? no surprise. As when he didn't know the name of various soldiers, including the one on his memorial bracelet, can't count the number of states, and the mispronunciation of corpsman, I would not discount that the stupidity is a symptom of being utterly uncaring about any of these things. What matters to him is that he's speaking, and he cares nothing about the content delivered in his droning cadence - content which he doesn't care about or believe in.

268 It was the resignation of DeMint that freaked me out the most.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 29, 2013 07:26 AM (XYSwB)

**

This^^done blowed my shit up.

Morn' ya'll

269 Marty Meehan was a classic Dem self-term limiter. He ran his first campaign on only serving 2 or 3 terms, reaffirming every year that he was a man of his word, etc. His deadline finally hit and, lo and behold, he discovered that there was "more work to do on behalf of my district" and kept right on running.

270

JackStraw at May 29, 2013 08:58 AM (g1DWB)

 

I guess where I'm coming from is that the burden is much lower for a campaign issue than it is for the IG to do something.  Framed correctly by a friendly campaign, who knows...it could have motivated more folks to turn out for Romney.  Aren't we told that he effectively lost by like 400k votes?

 

I would think a Congressperson could get ahold of approved applications for liberal groups directly from the IRS, no?  Wouldn't that be proof?

 

 

271 Bachman was a flake. Seemed to vote correctly, but still a flake.

272 If I came here in 2010 and said that the IRS was deliberately targeting Tea Party groups, Gabe and co. would have written me off as a conspiracy theorist. Posted by: @JohnTant at May 29, 2013 08:56 AM (tVWQB) "Conspiracy Theory" is what they call you when they don't want to address the point. Now after all the shit that Obama's done, who thinks he wouldn't play hanky panky with his birth certificate? Some of us realized this right from the very beginning.

273 @270 I agree with a lot you posted in that comment, especially on the radio pundits. But I can sympathize with the frustration some have with the party's leadership after 2010. The 90s GOP congress was more effective against Clinton then the post-2010 congress is w/ Obama. However i'm not someone who's going to give a high five to those who sat out elections because they weren't willing to vote for the candidate that beat their candidate in the primary.

274

It's been around. Searching the hash results in a bunch of comments similar to today's.

 

I've been around.  Conservative all my life, don't wish ill on anyone who wants to carry the brand, but wary of anyone who tarnishes it, even inadvertently.

Want to trash me because I don't say things you like?

Go For It...

275 I like this M.Mooshit guy. He's so clever.

276 As when he didn't know the name of various soldiers, including the one on his memorial bracelet, can't count the number of states, and the mispronunciation of corpsman, I would not discount that the stupidity is a symptom of being utterly uncaring about any of these things. What matters to him is that he's speaking, and he cares nothing about the content delivered in his droning cadence - content which he doesn't care about or believe in.


+1

*awards Platinum VIP Membership to MW*

277 Yeah, Bachmann was a flake. Lets see how you like the drooling socialist that is likely to replace her.

278 [IDangerGirl, if it wouldn't be a footrace to see who would kill me first (my wife or your husband), you'd be getting a big ol kiss and a drink. Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 29, 2013 08:44 AM (da5Wo)[/i] Oh I think the drink would be ok. Again, it ain't a done deal until they're in my hands but rumor has it that it's no problem at all. I'll keep y'all informed.

279 >>I would think a Congressperson could get ahold of approved applications for liberal groups directly from the IRS, no? Wouldn't that be proof? Only if you assert that no conservative groups have ever gotten 501C3 status. That isn't the case. Let's say that Romney started showing an approved application from a liberal group. Liberals would have responded by showing Karl Rove's Crossroads 501C3 approved application and screaming about the Koch brothers. Winner?

280 Controversial comments today, but the harsh truth. People who aren't aware of how DC works and/or don't pay taxes should not be voting. Posted by: AuthorLMendez at May 29, 2013 08:56 AM (yAor6) You cannot speak a whole lot of truth in today's politically correct world. England is slowly killing itself because it can't bring itself to denounce the advocates of Islam within it's borders. Requiring voters to pay taxes was a negative feedback system which resulted in system stability. Now we are stuck in a positive feedback loop which is very likely going to crash the system.

281 Oh I think the drink would be ok. Again, it ain't a done deal until they're in my hands but rumor has it that it's no problem at all. I'll keep y'all informed. Posted by: DangerGirl @deadlyestrogen at May 29, 2013 09:05 AM (jlm/B) Lol. Deal. And you've got a DM.

282 Again, it ain't a done deal until they're in my hands but rumor has it that it's no problem at all. I'll keep y'all informed.

Thanks again DG!

283 If I came here in 2010 and said that the IRS was deliberately targeting Tea Party groups, Gabe and co. would have written me off as a conspiracy theorist. Posted by: @JohnTant at May 29, 2013 08:56 AM (tVWQB) --- Its a nice site, but rewind further, like back to the founders... well, lets just say they would be banned here at AoS

284 Yeah, Bachmann was a flake. Lets see how you like the drooling socialist that is likely to replace her. Posted by: maddogg at May 29, 2013 09:04 AM (OlN4e) doesn't her district lean right a bit? I really don't know, but just guessing

285 "Yeah, Bachmann was a flake. Lets see how you like the drooling socialist that is likely to replace her."

Actually it's a red district that voted for McCain and Romney by double digits even while O won the state (won it by 10 in 08, 7 in 12). The district SHOULD stay red after she retires.

286 136 For about the tenth fucking time, there were 132 inquiries made by congressmen of the IRS based on constituent complaints about this issue over 2 years. And IRS personnel lied to congress when directly questioned on this point on several occasions. The only reason we have confirmation about it at this point is because of an internal audit requested by Darrell Issa. But, yeah, conspiracy theories are fun, so knock yourselves out. Posted by: Andy at May 29, 2013 08:11 AM (li+aS) Except you totally missed the excellent point made posted by: @JohnTant at May 29, 2013 08:06 AM (tVWQB): Wouldn't have taken much "proof" to start publicizing the questionnaires Tea Party groups were receiving back in 2010 and start calling for more investigations. Those questionnaires were positively Nixonian. If the people had heard about that kind of IRS harassment during the election season it would've created quite a buzz. But the GOP limits itself to ladyfingers while the Dems launch their strategic nukes. And to people like you -- for some reason -- that makes perfect sense.

287 Actually it's a red district that voted for McCain and Romney by double digits even while O won the state (won it by 10 in 08, 7 in 12). The district SHOULD stay red after she retires. Posted by: AuthorLMendez at May 29, 2013 09:07 AM (yAor6) Figured. thanks

288 If I came here in 2010 and said that the IRS was deliberately targeting Tea Party groups, Gabe and co. would have written me off as a conspiracy theorist. Posted by: @JohnTant at May 29, 2013 08:56 AM (tVWQB) That is probably how it would have turned out. Because that is one of the beauties of the Obama way, to do things so audacious that you would have to be crazy to think they would do it in broad daylight and think thye could get away with it. But notice the way the narrative works: first, you are crazy to think that the IRS would do that. Second, we are outraged that this happened, we will make sure that no no-name low-level staffer can ever do such an outrageous thing again. Third, the IRS is noble and was protecting our country by going after these outrageous Tea Party groups.

289 Levin said Weiner would run for president with Holder as his running mate.

Hence, Weiner-Holder '16.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 29, 2013 07:18 AM (+98Gb)

Bwaney Fwank: I don't suppose there would be a cabinet wevel spot for me? Maybe even pwess secwetawy

290 Bachmann only won by 5000 votes last election. The Leftard who almost beat her is a candidate again, so don't make any plans.

291 Gee all this talk of the IRS is a bummer. No titties and assess this AM? Or at least a few jokes

292

Let's say that Romney started showing an approved application from a liberal group. Liberals would have responded by showing Karl Rove's Crossroads 501C3 approved application and screaming about the Koch brothers.

Winner?

 

JackStraw at May 29, 2013 09:05 AM (g1DWB)

 

I'd think they  complained  about Karl Rove and the Koch brothers anyway, plus to the people we're trying to convince Karl Rove =/= Tea Party.  Heck, Karl Rove has the resources to fight an overbearing IRS, something smaller groups couldn't do.  That's another useful frame to it.  Mention that democracy is best served by grass roots groups instead of giant conglomorations of politically-connected insiders and at least there's an issue there.  Would it have been a giant vote turner?  Who knows (as you said), but I don't think we needed to turn/motivate all that many votes to win 2012 anyway.

 

 

293 Annnndddd now I'm truly excited to potentially have Tantaros' autograph in my house. I didn't know she said this: "This is ObamaÂ’s America. ItÂ’s like the Soviet Union. He said heÂ’d change the country. He said it. He said it. He said it. And a lot of people voted for him. And if you see any of those people today, punch them in the face." That's some straight up Moron stuff there.

294

Lessee... Palin is gone. Bachmann just said she is leaving.  Their fans resort to name calling.  Winners all around.

295 Politicians are just a means to an end, and those of them that aren't flaky are screamin' ape-shit nuts, truth be told.

Still take Bachmann over Nancy Pelosi, Shirley Jackson-Lee, Barbara Lee, Carolyn Maloney, Rosa deLauro, Maxine Waters, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, or Hillary.

296 "Iowan organizes cross-country march focused on climate change"

Well it should be nice and cool for them

297 Bachmann is still an attractive woman for her age.

298 "Bachmann only won by 5000 votes last election. The Leftard who almost beat her is a candidate again, so don't make any plans."

to be fair Bachmann always had closer races then she should have in that district. However a mid-term electorate is much different then a Presidential election electorate and should heavily favor the Republican in that race.

299 Bachmann only won by 5000 votes last election. The Leftard who almost beat her is a candidate again, so don't make any plans. Posted by: maddogg at May 29, 2013 09:09 AM (OlN4e) Yeah but Bachman is/was a divisive personality. I "suspect" a normal run of the mill "Conservative" might do better

300 Ordinarily, the trolls at least feign an attempt at making salient points. 


Today's batch doesn't even bother.  Skips straight to nyah-nyah. 


I think we need a new batch of trolls.  <.<  This one's just... boring. ._.

301 "Yeah, Bachmann was a flake. Lets see how you like the drooling socialist that is likely to replace her." ---- I'd hope for a Libertarian. If she's replaced by a republican, whatever, its already past the point of fixing.

302

>>>Liberals would have responded by showing Karl Rove's Crossroads 501C3 approved application and screaming about the Koch brothers.

 

Well, yeah, except that the IRS sat on Crossroads GPS' application just like they did Tea Party groups. (This, btw, destroys the current claim that IRS targeted only Tea Party groups and not so-called "GOP Establishment" groups.)

303 " I'm sending one hundreddollars to him."

Ask for an autographed picture, for your daughter

304 #280  We think the 90's Congress was effective because they stopped things or forced Clinton to sign bills (3 tries on welfare reform,  if I remember).

Yet it ultimately was a failure,  in some ways.  They managed to cement a reputation of conservatives as mean-spirited people who don't care about national parks or children. The overreach of impeachment has effectively removed that tool for us with Obama. And we lost the House eventually.

Clinton emerged from 2 full terms more popular than one would have thought,  and he shamelessly goes around the world making speeches and butting in where he should remain silent.

And Gingrich?  After he had to RESIGN his speakership due to the information about his affairs which were on-going while he was attacking Clinton,  he waltzed around making money on the rubber chicken circuit,  got a gig on Fox,  wrote a couple more books,  and married Callista. Then he ran for president and refused to get out of the race long after it was apparent he wouldn't win.

The 90's scenario cannot be repeated first of all,  because Obama is not Clinton.   Secondly,  any threats we make through the House will be immediately demonized or ignored.  (Everyone thinks Boehner has done nothing about a variety of issues and attacks him constantly,  unaware that he has passed legislation which languishes on Harry Reid's desk.)

305 That's some straight up Moron stuff there.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 29, 2013 09:10 AM (da5Wo)

It puts the lotion on the fist.

306 And ain't it passing strange that none of the Democrats' insane gorgon-women in the Congress even get 0.00000001% of the sh-t that Michele Bachmann got. And, granted, she lost me when she became Mitt Romney's stalking horse to take out Perry in the debates, but in fairness, why waste all that ammo shooting at good people who are, for the most part, on our side?

307 Doesn't agree with you = troll. Genius...

308 don't believe in term limits. I think elected officials should be paid the mean salary of the people they represent. Maybe then they'd be more connected to their constituencies.

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 29, 2013 08:59 AM (tVWQB)

 

 

Utterly useless idea.

In order to get started in politics in many places you have to be comfortably well off to begin with.  Since we've made politics a career that's the way it goes.

Consider that if I wanted to run for State Rep in my district, I'd be up against a retired lawyer worth considerably more than I am, who can draw on her other lawyer friends for help.

Ergo: I couldn't run if I wanted to, because I have to hold down a job to keep the roof over my head. (Well I'm looking for a job again, but the point remains, I can't stop looking just to bounce a prog out of the state house.)

309 The only fix would be for some house leader to SHUT. IT. DOWN. Any other talk of alternatives to that is fantasy land bullshit.

310
Bachmann only won by 5000 votes last election.
Posted by: maddogg



But that race drew extra attention and money from Team Democrat because Bachmann was running. With nondescript well meaning Republican 1207 running, the district political demographics would seem to make it a safe hold.

311 Well, yeah, except that the IRS sat on Crossroads GPS' application just like they did TeaParty groups. (This, btw, destroys the current claim that IRS targeted only Tea Party groups and not so-called "GOP Establishment" groups.) Posted by: Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 09:12 AM (B2LxR) I personally don't give a damn which groups it happened to. Groups and individuals were targeted by and harassed by the IRS based purely upon their political affiliations. That's wrong. It's criminal. It's bullshit and somebody needs to take the by God Hammer of Thor to the entire damn place.

312 Requiring voters to pay taxes was a negative feedback system which resulted in system stability. Now we are stuck in a positive feedback loop which is very likely going to crash the system.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 29, 2013 09:06 AM (bb5+k)

There's a boatload of wisdom in these two sentences.  Going to steal this paragraph for usage with a couple of folks I know. 

<_< It's gonna blow their minds, and probably a gasket or two.

313 260 John Tant,

well.....

"........"

indeed

314 I didn't know she said this: "This is ObamaÂ’s America. ItÂ’s like the Soviet Union. He said heÂ’d change the country. He said it. He said it. He said it. And a lot of people voted for him. And if you see any of those people today, punch them in the face."


That's some straight up Moron stuff there.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 29, 2013 09:10 AM (da5Wo)

Yes and yes

315

(This, btw, destroys the current claim that IRS targeted only Tea Party groups and not so-called "GOP Establishment" groups.)

 

Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 09:12 AM (B2LxR)

 

Who is claiming that?  I believe the IRS used keywords like "tea party" and "patriot" to scan for applications, but I don't think anyone ever said the targeting was limited to Tea Party groups.

 

Plus, Karl Rove is not exactly an unknown guy, so Lerner or someone was probably aware enough of him to flag his application anyway.

316

Moo moo, that you? Har

317 Yeah but Bachman is/was a divisive personality. I "suspect" a normal run of the mill "Conservative" might do better Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 29, 2013 09:11 AM (9Bj8R) I think this is the case as well, and I also think it speaks to M. Murcek's disdain for Bachman. She is strong coffee, and a lot of people simply prefer a less harsh brand. I also think much of her bad reputation is the result of how Liberal Democrats in Media go out of their way to portray her in a bad light.

318 We ended up yet again, with a candidate no one really wanted, who was good at gutting the other guy, but softpedaled against Obama, Holly Paz, went after Rove publically after she had taken down most of the Tea Party organizations,

319 "Iowan organizes cross-country march focused on climate change"

And if he were making a cross-country run to raise awareness of Jesus Christ, he would be treated as a nutjob.

320 and the GOP is minus one strong patriotic woman who's not afraid to speak her mind, again.


why am I not surprised

321

You can call somebody you disagree with a schoolyard name.  You believe you are the future of the GOP.

Gawd help us all...

322 I see Needlepenis is still here. Thus, I depart.

323 I'll always remember Bachman putting a heel to Chris Matthew's balls when she asked him if he still felt a thrill up his leg.  He was livid and she was just grinning like a Cheshire cat.  LOL! 

324

(Everyone thinks Boehner has done nothing about a variety of issues and attacks him constantly, unaware that he has passed legislation which languishes on Harry Reid's desk.)

 

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 29, 2013 09:12 AM (GoIUi)

 

Everything is optics, dear lady.  If Boehner passes legislation and Reid stifles it, does a voter know?

 

Look, I'll lay my cards on the table: I'm a Murray Chotiner / Chuck Colson conservative.  I mean, "get them by the balls first, then their hearts and minds will follow."  During one of the debates, I would have loved for Romney to stand there, saying nothing after one of the JEFs blatherings and when asked if he had a response, look right at the cokehead and say, "I'm just waiting until this  jackass  has a glass of water to wash down that incredible bunch of lies."

 

If Reid is holding up legislation, Boehner should make that his one and only message.  "You want answers?  Fuck you - go talk to that kiddie porn addict at the Majority Leader's desk."

 

But that's also why I could never make it in politics.

325 Saw my first "Hillary 2016" bumper sticker on a van on my way to work this morning. Ruined my day early.

326

Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 29, 2013 09:20 AM (zF6Iw)

 

Well, you'd have my vote.  I guess that's two.

327 Ben need some Metamucil? He's not regular today.

328 The liberals claimed the Tea Parties were all a coordinated and funded by the Koch Bros. stash of Confederate hate gold -- if that was the case, then this IRS BS would have been noticed earlier. 

329 330 I'll always remember Bachman putting a heel to Chris Matthew's balls when she asked him if he still felt a thrill up his leg. He was livid and she was just grinning like a Cheshire cat. LOL! Posted by: EC at May 29, 2013 09:20 AM (GQ8sn) I can't find an edited down clip, but I believe this has Bachmann's zinger in it. http://youtu.be/4eM1VmnEPVA

330 >>I'd think they complained about Karl Rove and the Koch brothers anyway, plus to the people we're trying to convince Karl Rove =/= Tea Party. Heck, Karl Rove has the resources to fight an overbearing IRS, something smaller groups couldn't do. That's another useful frame to it. Mention that democracy is best served by grass roots groups instead of giant conglomorations of politically-connected insiders and at least there's an issue there. Would it have been a giant vote turner? Who knows (as you said), but I don't think we needed to turn/motivate all that many votes to win 2012 anyway. We're just arguing past each other at this point. Do I think targeting of conservative groups happened and does it enrage me personally? Of course. But I didn't need to be convinced that Obama and the Dem party at large is corrupt. We are just disagreeing about the affect the evidence we had at the time would have had during the election. The election wasn't about the IRS it was about Obama. Obama could have done then what he has done now, claim he had no idea what was going on, say an investigation needs to be done to get to the bottom of it, express his outrage that groups were being targeted and the msm would have carried his water. In my mind, end of electoral issue. There was no time do to the actual investigation in 2011 or 2012. 2012 is over. I want this investigated completely because of the affect it will have on 2014 and 2016 when the true scope of what happened is known.

331 Ben need some Metamucil?

He's not regular today.



He's learning from the Head Ewok.  Expect a dump post by noon.

332

>>>Who is claiming that?

 

You don't read Breitbart?

 

 

333 @331 I've always said if someone were dumb enough to let me be in public office the media would have to have censors for me ready at all times

@332 UGH. really? these people are fucking nuts. just keep chumming along with socialism while our economy collapses.

334 You can call somebody you disagree with a schoolyard name." See post 22.

335

Addendum - when the MFM says, "How do you know Reid likes kiddie porn?" my Boehner would respond, "That's what my sources say.  Tell you what - when Reid tells you who gave him Romney's tax information, I'll tell you who has proof he's a short-eyes."

 

If we must go down, then take as many of the fuckers with us as we can.

336 Ben will be back tomorrow.

337 I can't find an edited down clip, but I believe this has Bachmann's zinger in it.


I think that was it.  She looked good too!

338 We have to stop nominating nice guys and pick guys or gals who will go for the jugular.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 29, 2013 07:30 AM (9Bj8R)

 

*****

 

I'll do it.  I always hated the way that guy tossed those flaming torches!

339

Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 09:24 AM (B2LxR)

 

No, I read AoS. 

340 Ben is...busy

341 I'll always remember Bachman putting a heel to Chris Matthew's balls when she asked him if he still felt a thrill up his leg. He was livid and she was just grinning like a Cheshire cat. LOL!

Posted by: EC at May 29, 2013 09:20 AM (GQ8sn)

Chrissy got really pissy over that. He starting flapping his arms and foaming at the mouth

342 Youdon't read Breitbart? Posted by: Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 09:24 AM (B2LxR) Only when I want to know what controversial game changing info isn't coming out on Monday....

343 The liberals claimed the Tea Parties were all a coordinated and funded by the Koch Bros. stash of Confederate hate gold -- if that was the case, then this IRS BS would have been noticed earlier. Posted by: Jean at May 29, 2013 09:23 AM (CMlD4) No one believes the liberal spiel about the Koch Brothers except liberal supporters, and *they* don't need any evidence.

344 Chrissy got really pissy over that. He starting flapping his arms and foaming at the mouth


Yup.  He got called on his asshattery and he couldn't take it.

345 Ruined my day early. Can't wait to see the first Biden 2016 sticker. Which I suspect will turn out to be "Biden 1916" or something erroneous like that.

346

Diogenes: Thanks.  I have nothing against Bachmann, "crazy eyes" comment, which I regret, notwithstanding.

We are in a fight to the death, we need the best soldiers we can get. No Akins, McDonoughs or others that sometimes say the right things and other times say stuff the left wing media machine can sharpen their teeth on.

Hugh Hewitt wrote a book: "If it's not  close, they can't cheat"

We need candidates who know: "If I don't say anything overtly stupid, they will have to slander me."

347 Chrissy got really pissy over that. He starting flapping his arms and foaming at the mouth Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 29, 2013 09:25 AM (1Jaio) I thought that was his normal behavior?

348 We need candidates who know: "If I don't say anything overtly stupid, they will have to slander me."

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Just like Romney.  Yeah, that's the ticket.

349 Stop name calling, you buncha Poopie Pants!

350 No one believes the liberal spiel about the Koch Brothers except liberal supporters, and *they* don't need any evidence.


You know what other programs the Koch's support?


Nova.   On PBS.


OMG!!! PBS IS A KOCH BROTHERS OPERATION!!!!

351 What else did you want them and Romney to do? Posted by: Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 08:12 AM (B2LxR) Make it a campaign issue. Gabe, the charge is the IRS is abusing power. You don't ask the IRS if they are abusing power and just accept their answer. Wimps do that. Idiots do that. People who are afraid to fight for what they want do that.

352 Lib Host Adam Levine Of NBC’s “The Voice” Captured By Hot Mic Saying “I Hate This Country”… The feeling is mutual, Adam. Weasel Zippers I'd like to have a talk with Levine behind the gym and the dick can leave anytime he wants

353

The election wasn't about the IRS it was about Obama. Obama could have done then what he has done now, claim he had no idea what was going on, say an investigation needs to be done to get to the bottom of it, express his outrage that groups were being targeted and the msm would have carried his water. In my mind, end of electoral issue. There was no time do to the actual investigation in 2011 or 2012.

 

JackStraw at May 29, 2013 09:24 AM (g1DWB)

 

Well, IIRC (that's for you, Gabe), the narrative of the Romney campaign was that Obama was basically  incompetent.  If Obama pleads ignorance, he just feeds that narrative, right?

 

And in that telling, an investigation starts.  Of course, it would be dragged on past November, just as Benghazi was, but in my mind an aggressive campaign could have been making all sorts of hay about it up until November.  And I don't think we would have needed to convince millions of people anyway, since the electoral math suggests a comparative few would have turned the election the other way.

354 Re the toy gun incident.

Here in Texas a few years ago there was a case where a student brought an actual gun to school and used it to shoot and wound a bully. The DA tried him as an adult.

This being Texas and not some crazy blue state - the jury found the kid not guilty by reason of self defense - since the testimony established that the school did nothing to stop the bullying. After losing the DA went bat-shit crazy predicting a collapse of society and the creation of "wild west schools". Of course all that happened was a local collapse of bullying.

Amazing how bullies are nothing but people pulling shit because they think they can get away with it - sort of like the current administration - who'd of thunk it?

355 People who are afraid to fight for what they want do that.
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There is an entire party made up of people like that.  Can't recall the name offhand.

356 Can't wait to see the first Biden 2016 sticker. Which I suspect will turn out to be "Biden 1916" or something erroneous like that.

 

Posted by: soothsayer at May 29, 2013 09:27 AM (qpM85)

 

Nah.  It'll be a "Kinnock 1982" sticker scribbled over in crayon.

357 Since when do you need proof in a political campaign?

358 No Akins, McDonoughs or others that sometimes say the right things and other times say stuff the left wing media machine can sharpen their teeth on. Hugh Hewittwrote a book: "If it's not close, they can't cheat" We need candidates who know: "If I don't say anything overtly stupid, they will have to slander me." Posted by: M. Murcek at May 29, 2013 09:27 AM (GJUgF) I agree with this assessment. Mourdock and Akins ought to have known better. They cost us at least two senate seats, and they might have cost us the Presidential election as well. They were certainly used to motivate the other side. I still cannot believe they were so stupid. The media will use the slightest comment (remember "Macaca" ) in an attempt to derail an election. The Media are our enemy, but we don't have to make their job easy.

359 Drew up.

360 If what we saw in 2012 is an good example of the proper sort of fight the GOP should put up, then we are royally fucked.

361 You know what other programs the Koch's support? Nova. On PBS. OMG!!! PBS IS A KOCH BROTHERS OPERATION!!!! Posted by: EC at May 29, 2013 09:28 AM (GQ8sn) Figures. I very much like NOVA. It's actually sensible AND educational.

362 Diogenes' Lamp: I will drink Klingon style with you too, anytime...

363 Actually Mitt Romney's campaign was Obama Is Okay, But I Can Do Better.

364

>>>Gabe, the charge is the IRS is abusing power. You don't ask the IRS if they are abusing power and just accept their answer.

 

I see. Wimps wait for evidence. Fighters just make unfounded allegations and hope the general public never asks for evidence. Got it.

365 313 - "And ain't it passing strange that none of the Democrats' insane gorgon-women in the Congress even get 0.00000001% of the sh-t that Michele Bachmann got...."

Exactly! Why do we play along with the Left's attacks on Bachmann (crazy eyes, etc.)? She had her faults (as many have mentioned up thread), but there are a lot more crazy and dumb Democrats who continue to occupy space in Congress that are treated with more respect by the MSM and the Left: Jesse Jackson Jr. (before he officially flipped out), Sheila Jackson Lee (affirmative action for naming hurricanes!), Denni Kucinich (how was he there that long?), Hank Johnson (Guam tipping over), etc. And then there are Senators like Barbara Boxer and Patty Murray. I'll take Bachmann over any of those Dem nuts and bimbos.

366 #331  Well,  good luck with getting on TV to point out Reid's  fallacies.  About the only person who will ask Boehner to come on TV is Greta.

I will grant that we should be running ads,  but since we NEVER run ads about pending legislation,  I am assuming this is something that the RNC is unwilling to do,  which is not Boehner's fault.  For all I know the RNC is prohibited from doing so.

So how come other groups aren't running those ads?  We had ads from a conservative group attacking our GOP legislature when they wouldn't go fo the full 10% income tax cut Governor Pence wanted.  Why aren't these jackwagons running ads about national stuff?

Just saying something,  over and over again,  doesn't get you publicity on thenetworks,  as surely you know by now.

Also,  I wouldn't exactly pattern myself after the early Chuck Colson,  who after all went to prison.  His later prison ministry,  however,  did a lot of good.

367 >>And in that telling, an investigation starts. Of course, it would be dragged on past November, just as Benghazi was, but in my mind an aggressive campaign could have been making all sorts of hay about it up until November. And I don't think we would have needed to convince millions of people anyway, since the electoral math suggests a comparative few would have turned the election the other way. No, it does not. Let me say this again. There was already an audit of the IRS going on by the IG. This was only done because Issa and other conservative groups demanded it. You can't start an investigation until an audit is finished and the audit was finished about 1 month ago. Here's a challenge, go find all the articles on this blog or any other conservative blog prior to the election demanding that IRS abuse of conservatives be made a campaign issue. It didn't happen. There were a few references here and there but nobody was screaming for this to be a central part of any campaign. Why? Because we didn't know then what we know now. Romney did make a very pointed response to Obama after he was accused of killing a woman and being a tax cheat telling Obama to take his Chicago gutter politics back to Chicago. And the msm leaped to his defense and hammered Obama. No they didn't. They laughed at Romney and that was that. Anyway, back to work.

368

She had her faults...

 

Why pretend she didn't? Why pretend that for any pol? Or anyone else, for that matter?

369 Gabe, the charge is the IRS is abusing power. You don't ask the IRS if they are abusing power and just accept their answer. Wimps do that. Idiots do that. People who are afraid to fight for what they want do that. Posted by: eman at May 29, 2013 09:28 AM (cQ4xo) I've noticed that truth is not an essential aspect of scoring political points. The enemy methodology is to just make the accusation and not worry about whether it is true or not. As LBJ said, It doesn't matter if it's true, what matters is that they will have to defend themselves from it.

370 I see. Wimps wait for evidence. Fighters just make unfounded allegations and hope the general public never asks for evidence. Got it. Posted by: Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 09:34 AM (B2LxR) It's a political campaign, Gabe. You fight. You make charges. You ask stinging questions. You provoke doubt and concern and outrage. You hammer your opponent.

371 Wimps wait for evidence. Fighters just make unfounded allegations

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They had evidence.  They had testimony and complaints and letters and stories.  This isn't a jury trial we are talking about - this is a political campaign.  Whiffs of scandal, rumors, questions of impropriety are suddenly off limits in political campaigns without evidence admissable in a court of law.

And they were most certainly NOT unfounded.

372 Gee, Gabe, Obama, Reid, and Pelosi made accusation after accusation after accusation and the general public never asked them for evidence. Why you keep insisting that we accept asymmetric warfare because the press lies about Republicans is beyond me. They're going to lie regardless of what we do, so you might as well use the nukes.

373 I must confess that there is a part of me that wants a candidate who will say in the debates, "What that other guy said is bullshit" and then sit down.

I think in some ways we should have gone with Trump,  but although he is Famous and says some hard truths in between the BS,  I would bet money he wouldn't do it in a campaign.

So,  if we are going to lose,  I say go with someone who will just say whatever,  like Cruz. 

I am always reminded of how disoriented the democrats got when the GOP showed up to protest the Florida recount.  They weren't used to us standing up for ourselves.

It's something to think about.  Now,  off I go to do some actual work.

374 That M. Murcek sure is a thin skinned little bitch.

375 During NBC’s hit singing show ‘The Voice’ last night, one of the show’s co-hosts Adam Levine muttered, “I hate this country” after one of his team members, country music singer Amber Carrington was “saved by America.”

His remark were captured by a hot-mic, while the cameras focused on country music star Blake Shelton.

376 Thanks, buzzion, I know where we both stand too...

377 A story: Why Eric Holder must be prosecuted if it is likely he perjured himself before Congress. Because last night I decided not to lie. Background: Last night, searching for jobs, and having just had a preliminary interview for one a few hours prior that went well (and is going to lead to a follow-on onsite interview), I found a dream job with the same company, one I had been looking for five years ago, and one that would combine operations and engineering, and allow me to make real-time decisions under stress--which is important to me, as I flatter myself that I have that ability. And in a case of serendipity, the job was closing that night, but I still had time to apply, and since my resume was already on file, and since it is an outstanding resume, exavtly what they are looking for, all I had to do was click a few times, and bang--closure after several years of wandering. Forward movement at last. I didn't apply. Because I would have had to take a physical, and while I think I am actually fully physically qualified, I have had a condition in the past which, under the current state of knowledge, is permanently disqualifying. Sort of like the age 60 rule for airline pilots. Just a blanket approach. Now, I could lie on the form, and normally I would never be found out. Ever. But that is not who I am, and so I let the dream pass, as so many dreams have passed. I still intend to pursue the dream, though I doubt I will achieve it here. Perhaps elsewhere. Most likely elsewhere. That is for the future. But today, at any rate, the dream died, because I will not lie. In this modern Leviathanic state we live in, American are daily presented with many forms from government, at levels big and small, and they all virtually have the same phrase in them--"under penalty of". Meaning I will provide the correct truthful information, or else. My signature on the form is my bond, my testimony. I must tell the truth, or be liable to consequences if society so chooses. Now, Eric Holder and Barack Obama may not like Congress. They may think it an obstruction to their grand dreams. Others may feel the same way too. But the blunt fact is that just as average Americans must face the consequences if they lie or misinform, so must Eric Holder if he has. It is "the people, in Congress, assembled", not "the people's avatar and tribune, Eric Holder". In testimony before them, Congress, that imperfect body, the only body to represent the self-sovereignty of the people as a national whole, one simply cannot treat it as politics. One must tell the truth, and if a political opponent was able to score points off of you for so doing, then the people still serve as a backstop. If your cause be good and just, they will still support you. If your cause be not good, then even so more important to gave the truth come out, and a course correction made. What treating Congressional testimony as having no more import than spin sessions after a debate means is that real and truly meaningful deliberative decision making only occurs in a handful of folks, kingly folks, oligarchic folks, folks happily running a government that has liars at the top but prosecutes liars at the bottom. This is unacceptable. My view is that I am simply not going to be loyal to a nation where I pay a personal penalty for telling the truth or refusing to lie, as I did last night, and politicians who don't do either of those two don't, and worse, prosper. And that is all there is to it.

378 Socialists create abominable pigs.

http://tinyurl.com/pzxozsf

(but we already knew that)

379 Snork.  Many here are less concerned with socialism than they are with being thread bullies. They will be surprised to be right along side the "useful idiots" going headfirst into the ditch... 

380 As an addition--my above is also a reason why I simply don't care how long our illegally resident friends stay in the shadows. There are simply too many of us who limit ourselves, who deny ourselves, because rules and standards say we must (and in fact don't get what we limited ourselves from, ever, but do see others getting those things gecause they did not limit themselves) for me to really give a shit about our friends from Mexico who decided following common American standards was not the first priority. I will contInue to be a basic rules-following-by-default kind of guy, because it is part of who I am (I.e., I do it because I believe in those rules, not because of the societal prestige that might accrue) but I'll be hanged if I love a nation that makes being such a person a synonym for "sucker".

381 Mr Yeo, an environment minister under John Major, is one of the Conservative PartyÂ’s strongest advocates of radical action to cut carbon emissions. His comments are significant as he was one of the first senior figures to urge the party to take the issue of environmental change seriously.

He insisted such action is “prudent” given the threat climate change poses to living standards worldwide. But, he said, human action is merely a “possible cause”.

Asked on Tuesday night whether it was better to take action to mitigate the effects of climate change than to prevent it in the first place, he said: “The first thing to say is it does not represent any threat to the survival of the planet. None at all. The planet has survived much bigger changes than any climate change that is happening now.

382 Re the IRS targeting pro-Israel groups, I think there's an outside chance that the scrutiny/delay has something to do with The Patriot Act and Executive Order 13224 and regulations concerning money going overseas. The WSJ quotes seem pretty second-hand. It's *possible* the bureaucrats misstated the rationale behind the scrutiny and/or the rationale was misreported. 'Hoping the Chronicle on Philanthropy, which was the org that quickly killed the IRS excuse about an uptick in 501c applications being the cause for delays, will look into this. It should be possible to see if there was a similar delay/scrutiny seen with non-profit applications for organizations with other overseas interests. I'm not making excuses for the Administration, btw, but merely reminding us that there's a lot of incompetence afoot.

383 I'm so much smarter than everyone else here and I'm totally a conservative, yep you betcha, so don't think I'm a leftard just because I'm an annoying prick.  Ooh, and speaking of pricks, I'm hungry.

384 I see. Wimps wait for evidence. Fighters just make unfounded allegations and hope the general public never asks for evidence. Got it. Posted by: Gabriel Malor at May 29, 2013 09:34 AM (B2LxR) Unintentionally Ironic Misrepresentation Of The Week.