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May 30, 2013

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— Gabriel Malor

Happy Thursday.

NRO's indispensable Daniel Foster writes about Sen. McConnell's behind-the-scenes efforts to foil Obama's liberal plan.

Mayor Bloomberg -- and one of his gun-grabbing lobbyists -- got a ricin-tainted letter in the mail. Several police officers who intervened became ill.

The AP, in addition to the NYTimes, said "no fuckin' way" (paraphrase) to the AG's offer to give them an off-the-record chat about the DOJ's secret warrants targeting journalists.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 02:38 AM | Comments (297)
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1 Mornin' all. That ricin is awfully convenient.

Posted by: RWC at May 30, 2013 02:40 AM (Wl/Ht)

2 Where is all this damn ricin coming from, anyway?

Posted by: Viridian at May 30, 2013 02:41 AM (5ypJ8)

3 Oh, my god. I get comment TWO and my point is still sniped.

Posted by: Viridian at May 30, 2013 02:41 AM (5ypJ8)

4 Lanny Davis this morning is shopping the Holder meant only prosecution on Rosen line.

Posted by: blaster at May 30, 2013 02:41 AM (N5ZQC)

5 Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday, May 30, 2013. On this day in 1431 Joan of Arc was burned at the stake as a heretic.

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:45 AM (lZvxr)

6 More Tea Party Groups sue IRS and Obamanites. Discovery here could be great.

http://is.gd/zJg2Af

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:45 AM (lZvxr)

7 Yet another Obama lie.

http://is.gd/KZIXxR

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:45 AM (lZvxr)

8 Another Â“what if BushÂ” episode. And the NYT is not happy.

http://is.gd/VmUz40

http://is.gd/RhuNe1

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:46 AM (lZvxr)

9 CA joins the ranks of States who want to give driverÂ’s licenses to illegals. More Democrat voters on the way.

http://is.gd/r602Hk

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:46 AM (lZvxr)

10 HowÂ’s that fat man working out NJ? NJ criminals collecting millions in illegal benefits.

http://is.gd/zW6wnY

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:46 AM (lZvxr)

11 House Republicans are Â“concernedÂ”. Gee they just figured out that Holder is a liar.

http://is.gd/B9H0AG

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:46 AM (lZvxr)

12 US now has 11M people collecting SSDI. But not to worry, it is the baby boomers who are bankrupting social security.

http://is.gd/zUhTI0

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:47 AM (lZvxr)

13 How does Harry the alleged pederast keep getting elected? How about illegal campaign contributions?

http://is.gd/VITx7v

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:47 AM (lZvxr)

14 Obama is happy with the IRSÂ…Â…..and chickens.

http://is.gd/cisgFZ

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:47 AM (lZvxr)

15 IRS felonies are starting to point to Obama.

http://is.gd/6TZqpY

http://is.gd/fHWrAN

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:47 AM (lZvxr)

16 Does America deserve the IRS? 53% do.

http://is.gd/Gk3gze

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:48 AM (lZvxr)

17 McShitty pukes out another lie and gets called on it.

http://is.gd/15rKw1

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:48 AM (lZvxr)

18 Pro-life groups are terrorists now? I want to see some assholes go to jail over this.

http://is.gd/sgD7oU

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:48 AM (lZvxr)

19 UK AGW czar admits he was a liar.

http://is.gd/34k0eW

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:49 AM (lZvxr)

20 Pharaoh Obama-II says he will assume absolute power to get what he wants.

http://is.gd/MplzaF

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:49 AM (lZvxr)

21 Recall that German family who were denied asylum? Looks like they are getting congressional support. But I would not count on it.

http://is.gd/pZRwxu

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:49 AM (lZvxr)

22 Milky Loads is off the reservation again.

http://is.gd/l5AGvQ

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:49 AM (lZvxr)

23 Ed Markey Â– Communist Â‘n Chief.

http://is.gd/l5AGvQ

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:50 AM (lZvxr)

24 State Department will not comply with House subpoena? Issa should send federal marshals.

http://is.gd/wWWnOI

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:50 AM (lZvxr)

25 WH denies Holder is a liar.

http://is.gd/k3fD4s

But the press is not buying that shit.

http://is.gd/li4gAC

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:51 AM (lZvxr)

26 This kind of shit is why we canÂ’t get anything done here.

http://is.gd/0n6D0G

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:51 AM (lZvxr)

27 As I said:

COLUMBIA, SC Â— An unlikely coalition of Senate Democrats and Republicans on Wednesday dealt a potential death blow to a bill aimed at strengthening the stateÂ’s ethics laws Â— Gov. Nikki HaleyÂ’s highest priority for the year.

http://is.gd/BKk0zN

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:51 AM (lZvxr)

28 MADD has the SC Supreme Court in their pockets.

http://is.gd/a7qSjk

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

29 Lindsey Graham campaigning upstate in his home territory. One wonders if they will run out of ballots in Myrtle Beach again.

http://is.gd/QB4pga

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

30 Obama nominates a Â“RepublicanÂ” (RINO) as FBI director. But it is bipartisan because he was under Bush.

http://is.gd/RRBSlE

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

31 Ted Cruz on the amnesty bill. Why is it that we donÂ’t here about this on the MFM or Fox?

http://is.gd/VhYE1a

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

32 RI RINO finally admits he is a Democrat.

http://is.gd/r0x91m

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

33 Is this the reason Lerner took the 5th? I donÂ’t think so. I think she was protecting Obama which means her taking the 5th was perjury.

http://is.gd/iAIsDK

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

34 John Fund on Chicago corruption and Obama.

http://is.gd/YEO04T

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

35 Heritage attacks the pork bill known as Â“the farm billÂ”.

http://is.gd/qrIqAk

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

Morning, Â‘rons and Â‘ronettes. Thanks for the morning briefing, Gabe and Vic.

I think my last two stories were a little boring, so hereÂ’s a short Marilyn Monroe one. Personally, I donÂ’t believe itÂ’s true, since it shows MM as an almost inconceivably dumb blonde. But thereÂ’s just the outside chance that it might be true, since the one thing MM could do better than almost any other actress was know exactly what to say to get a man interested:

While shooting 1954Â’s River of No Return, Robert Mitchum noticed that, between takes, Monroe would go off to a quiet corner and read a very thick book. One day he followed her, to find that she was poring through a dictionary of Freudian terms.

Why on earth was she reading that, Mitchum asked? Â“I feel one should know how to discuss oneself,Â” was the rather pompous answer. Â“So how far have you gotten?Â” Mitchell went on. Monroe handed the book over, and he saw that she had begun a chapter titled Â“Anal Eroticism.Â” Â“ThatÂ’s charming,Â” the actor responded drily, handing the book back. Â“How often do you think that will come up in a discussion?Â”

Monroe ignored his crack and went back to her reading. After a while, she looked up and said, Â“WhatÂ’s Â‘eroticismÂ’?Â” A lopsided grin creased MitchumÂ’s face as he explained.

A minute or so later, Monroe looked up from the book again, and in her baby-doll voice asked, Â“WhatÂ’s Â‘analÂ’?Â”

And there you are. Hope you all have a wonderful day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 30, 2013 02:54 AM (zF6Iw)

37 Kindle Daily Deals

http://is.gd/9yi86Z

And that's it for today

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

38 *crickets*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 30, 2013 02:57 AM (GQ72I)

39 Morning all. I almost starting to hate McCain as much as obama and McCain should know better

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 02:57 AM (9Bj8R)

That sidebar about McConnell's super-secret plan for the long game doesn't sound so secret anymore (unless that headline was t-e-h sarcasm).

Dang autocorrect.

Posted by: RushBabe at May 30, 2013 02:58 AM (qkZxk)

41 US now has 11M people collecting SSDI. But not to worry, it is the baby boomers who are bankrupting social security ---------- Which number is largest: 11 million or 76 million? Are you saying that if there were not a single person on SSDI, then Social Security would be solvent? Generational flame war: ACTIVATE!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 02:58 AM (JDIKC)

42 McRINO Claims Radical Islamists Make Up Only A Small Fraction Of Rebel Forces In SyriaÂ… And I bet it was hard being held by those liliputians as a POW all them years also you senile bastard

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 02:58 AM (9Bj8R)

43 "NRO's indispensable Daniel Foster writes about Sen. McConnell's behind-the-scenes efforts to foil Obama's liberal plan"

Not to be confused with his behind-the-scenes effort to help Obama pass amnesty.

Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at May 30, 2013 02:59 AM (gZIOq)

Â“WhatÂ’s Â‘analÂ’?Â”

Proof positive she wasn't moron material.

Posted by: RushBabe at May 30, 2013 02:59 AM (qkZxk)

45 27 Vic,

and in SC's case it probably means an "unlikely" coalition of former democrats & democrats....

ah to be headed "home"

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 30, 2013 03:01 AM (LRFds)

46 Yankees making the mets look like the 27 Yankess

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 03:01 AM (9Bj8R)

47 @44 au contraire; she wouldn't have to ask a moron twice.

Ewwww.

Posted by: comatus at May 30, 2013 03:02 AM (JNUY4)

48 ah to be headed "home"

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 30, 2013 07:01 AM (LRFds)

The Republican SC legislature is made up of former "Democrats". And they still side with the Democrats. They hate Haley.

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 03:03 AM (lZvxr)

49 48 Vic,

yup led from the Shadows by John McCain's man wife...

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 30, 2013 03:05 AM (LRFds)

50 Damn, when did our country become a Mel Brooks script?

Posted by: Case at May 30, 2013 03:07 AM (jhRZ+)

51 US now has 11M people collecting SSDI. But not to worry, it is the baby boomers who are bankrupting social security.

Huh?

Of the 11M there are probably 4M who should be unceremoniously dumped. Stipulated.

How about the 75M retirees who will take more from the system than they ever put in? Those are the facts. It's the math baby, and it's a bitch.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 30, 2013 03:07 AM (sbV1u)

52 Which number is largest: 11 million or 76 million?

RAYCISS.

Look, Vic, I'm sorry your parents and grandparents took 13% of your earnings your whole life, but taking it out on your kids and grandkids is asinine.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking beer at May 30, 2013 03:08 AM (hO8IJ)

53 Figures...EoJ beat me to the point.

I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 30, 2013 03:08 AM (sbV1u)

54 Mayor Bloomberg -- and one of his gun-grabbing lobbyists -- got a ricin-tainted letter in the mail. Several police officers who intervened became ill. Sounds like the real deal if people got ill.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 30, 2013 03:09 AM (U2UQk)

55 Yeah, cut off SS to the old folks. Let 'em shiver in the dark with a can of tender vittles and a dirty spoon. There's a bunch of 10 year old kids with cystic fibrosis that need 500,000 dollar lung transplants.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 30, 2013 03:12 AM (U2UQk)

56 Morning, all. It was a fun night of power coming back on, power going back out. I gave up and went to bed. Of course the power came back on in the middle of the night, every light in the house came on and all the electronics and appliances had to make some noise which woke me up. So, I may be a little grumpypants today.

Posted by: DangerGirl @deadlyestrogen at May 30, 2013 03:12 AM (4cA6A)

57 Mayor Bloomberg -- and one of his gun-grabbing lobbyists -- got a ricin-tainted letter in the mail. Several police officers who intervened became ill. Sounds like the real deal if people got ill. Posted by: Regular Moron at May 30, 2013 07:09 AM (U2UQk) Maybe, or maybe psychosomatic and the Cops have great sick leave benefits

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 03:13 AM (9Bj8R)

58 If you think the ricin letters are a cynical ploy by Eric Holder's Chicago mafia raise your hand.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 30, 2013 03:13 AM (4706v)

59 Ohio Woman Who Voted 6 Times For Obama Convicted Of Felony Voter Fraud

http://t.co/VCsKyKmjib

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking beer at May 30, 2013 03:13 AM (hO8IJ)

60 RAYCISS ----------- I get that a lot.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 03:13 AM (JDIKC)

61 Yeah, cut off SS to the old folks. Let 'em shiver in the dark with a can of tender vittles and a dirty spoon. There's a bunch of 10 year old kids with cystic fibrosis that need 500,000 dollar lung transplants.

Nice strawman. Got the blueprints for it? I might wanna build one later.

No one is advocating that.

But adjusting the eligibility age upward a few years for guys like me (< 55) would go a long way toward making SS more sustainable.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 30, 2013 03:14 AM (sbV1u)

62 Is it "poke Vic with a stick" day again already?

Also, is Dan Foster someone we like now, or hate? I get so confused.

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2013 03:15 AM (YXmuI)

63 Whatever happened to calling Lerner back to inform her she waived her 5th amendment rights and get her on camera taking the 5th and over? In fact why isn't the GOP pressing this for all its worth? Why isn't the GOP doing anything in general about anything? I mean we hauled athlete after athlete before congress to testify about drugs in sport, this IRS scandal is infinately more important and they have questioned a total of two material malefactors and that's it, all quiet on the western front. Where the hell is boener?

Posted by: kreplach at May 30, 2013 03:15 AM (4T5lL)

64 Oh, we used to dream of a can of tender vittles and a dirty spoon! There were a hundred and fifty of us sitting in a shoe box in the middle of the road. The best we could manage was to share a popsicle stick that the dog had licked clean just before biting mother and dad and giving them rabies.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 30, 2013 03:15 AM (zF6Iw)

65 55- Old folks as a group are not poor.

The majority of the wealth in the country resides with those who have lived long enough to accumulate it.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 30, 2013 03:16 AM (WVMUQ)

66 There's a bunch of 10 year old kids with cystic fibrosis that need 500,000 dollar lung transplants.

There's not 74 million of them.

And they didn't steal your wages.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking beer at May 30, 2013 03:16 AM (hO8IJ)

67 The majority of the wealth in the country resides with those who have lived long enough to accumulate it.

Hey! Stop with the actual facts already!

We're arguing with emotion here!

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 30, 2013 03:16 AM (sbV1u)

68 On this day in 1431 Joan of Arc was burned at the stake as a heretic.

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 06:45 AM (lZvxr)

If this isn't a metaphor for something, I don't know what is.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 30, 2013 03:17 AM (Gkhxf)

69 http://is.gd/r602Hk Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 06:46 AM

Would be more accurate to say that California wants to make giving driver's licenses to illegals OFFICIAL, Vic.

Anyone who has ever spent five minutes in a CA DMV knows the truth. The state might as well automatically hand D/Ls out at border "checkpoints." Right alongside Section 8 vouchers, welfare cards and ballots for the next election.

Posted by: MrScribbler at May 30, 2013 03:17 AM (mHrip)

70 Damn, when did our country become a Mel Brooks script? If the sheriff wants to shoot himself, let him.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 30, 2013 03:18 AM (h1D+w)

In fact why isn't the GOP pressing this for all its worth?

Why isn't the GOP doing anything in general about anything?

I mean we hauled athlete after athlete before congress to testify about drugs in sport, this IRS scandal is infinately more important and they have questioned a total of two material malefactors and that's it, all quiet on the western front.

Where the hell is boener?

Posted by: kreplach at May 30, 2013 07:15 AM (4T5lL)

We had a discussion about this on one of yesterday's threads. IIRC, Gabe felt that, while the abuse may have been reported, there was nothing Romney could do because the Dems would like and then point to their lies as truth. Others of us (myself included) believe nothing was done and nothing is being done because the GOP is as much a bunch of corrupt statists as the Dems and ought to be swinging from tree branches right alongside them.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 30, 2013 03:19 AM (zF6Iw)

72 Damn, when did our country become a Mel Brooks script?

It's good to be the king.

Posted by: King Barack I - Lion of Hyde Park, Keeper of the Holy Sites of Punahou and Harvard at May 30, 2013 03:19 AM (sbV1u)

73 FML continues, btw.

Posted by: blaster at May 30, 2013 03:19 AM (N5ZQC)

shazzam!

All you have to do is live long enough and you will be wealthy. Is this a great country or what?/

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 30, 2013 03:20 AM (R8hU8)

75 Hope to catch up this evening once I am in Dallas for Project A-kon.

TPH, silly otaku, of course I will be snapping pictures of cosplayers.

Daft Punk, Interstellar 5555, Leiji Matsumoto original animation, One More Time. http://youtu.be/FGBhQbmPwH8

Jya ne minna!!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 30, 2013 03:20 AM (khd7K)

76 Sounds like the real deal if people got ill. Who knew that two little letters were so big? IF. Name names or it didn't happen. Yeah, it's a bitch when you lose trust.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 30, 2013 03:21 AM (h1D+w)

77 TPH, silly otaku, of course I will be snapping pictures of cosplayers.

Will there be gingers?

:::: please say yes, please say yes, please say yes ::::

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 30, 2013 03:22 AM (sbV1u)

78 Yeah, cut off SS to the old folks. Let 'em shiver in the dark with a can of tender vittles and a dirty spoon. -------------- Okay.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 03:22 AM (JDIKC)

79 Old folks as a group are not poor.

Yes, but we have to tax the young workers who can't afford a down-payment on a their first home MORE so people with a second home in FL or AZ can get free shit.

Because that's what's fair. And redistributing wealth from the productive to the unproductive is what conservativism is all abort.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking beer at May 30, 2013 03:23 AM (hO8IJ)

80 Well Sean if there are good cosplayers of Onohime and Lina Inverse perhaps.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 30, 2013 03:23 AM (khd7K)

81 Maybe, or maybe psychosomatic and the Cops have great sick leave benefits

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 07:13 AM (9Bj8R)

========

I wouldn't put it past Mayor Napoleon to "encourage" some of his security detail to burn off some excess sick leave in order to make a story for the press.

Good Morning!

Posted by: Nighthawk at May 30, 2013 03:24 AM (OtQXp)

82 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 07:22 AM (JDIKC)

Couldn't find the downside, could you?

Hey, c'mon down to NoVAMoMee, we're looking for more entertainment. Ontario/DCA.....2 hours by air.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 30, 2013 03:24 AM (sbV1u)

None of the people on the gun/salt/BigGulp grabbers staff got sick from handling the letters, just the cops. Sounds like a disability payday ploy to me. NYPD is famous for those.

And it sounds like someone ground up castor beans into a paste and sent it. Since ricin is naturally present in castor beans...you get the picture.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at May 30, 2013 03:25 AM (ial2b)

84 Â Damn, when did our country become a Mel Brooks script? Sire, the peasants are revolting.

Posted by: shredded chi at May 30, 2013 03:26 AM (2UrMT)

I wish we could dump McCain on the beaches of Vietnam tied up and with a ball gag and a sign on him that says:

"You caused this man's stupidity, so now it's YOUR turn to suffer his wrath."

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 30, 2013 03:26 AM (PBm/l)

86 I wouldn't put it past Mayor Napoleon to "encourage" some of his security detail to burn off some excess sick leave in order to make a story for the press. As I said, it's a bitch when you lose trust.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 30, 2013 03:27 AM (h1D+w)

87 And they didn't steal your wages. I'm sure you have your retirement plan all set up, fully funded right now. Yeah, I thought so.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 30, 2013 03:27 AM (U2UQk)

88 Hey, c'mon down to NoVAMoMee, we're looking for more entertainment. Ontario/DCA.....2 hours by air. --------------- I'm trying, but it's not looking likely. Weekends are tough right now.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 03:27 AM (JDIKC)

89 Sire, the peasants are revolting. Yes, they are. Very.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 30, 2013 03:28 AM (h1D+w)

Sire, the peasants are revolting.

You said it. They stink on ice!

Posted by: Obligatory Mel Brooks Comeback at May 30, 2013 03:30 AM (zF6Iw)

91 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the number of non-elderly adults will grow by 11% between now and 2040, while the number of adults 65 and up will skyrocket by 93%. "What that means is the ratio of non-elderly adults to elderly adults is going to go from 4.7 to 1 today to 2.7 to 1 by 2040," Duggan says. "

http://tinyurl.com/c3wllvn

Someone else said it better though....

http://tinyurl.com/djslqf

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 30, 2013 03:30 AM (sbV1u)

92 So McConnell is some kind of a Let It Burn double agent? "I'm pushing amnesty and other items on the Liberal Wish List because Serious You Guys I'm getting all kinds of inside info. "

Posted by: @johntant at May 30, 2013 03:30 AM (AEyBs)

93 Yes, but we have to tax the young workers who can't afford a down-payment on a their first home MORE so people with a second home in FL or AZ can get free shit.

Been years now but 60 minutes interviewed some oldsters justifying payouts and the guy who struck me was the one who wouldn't consider means testing; "I payed in and it PAYS MY GOLF FEES".

I stroked out and died.

I got better.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 30, 2013 03:30 AM (WVMUQ)

94 But adjusting the eligibility age upward a few years for guys like me (< 55) would go a long way toward making SS more sustainable.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 30, 2013 07:14 AM (sbV1u)

We have done that twice already. And the average age at death once SS age is reached has only gone up by 5 years since 1930.

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 03:31 AM (lZvxr)

95 Sire, the peasants are revolting. Posted by: shredded chi at May 30, 2013 07:26 AM (2UrMT) Send for the piss boy!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 03:31 AM (9Bj8R)

96 I'm sure you have your retirement plan all set up, fully funded right now. Yeah, I thought so. ----------------- Is retirement a basic human right? I don't plan to retire until I'm forced to by old age and diminished capacity. Besides, someone has to pay for your Tender Vittles.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 03:31 AM (JDIKC)

97 Why do I get the feeling this ricin incident is just like that fat liberal college chick who faked getting the "I want to rape you" letter from the "Republican"?

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 30, 2013 03:32 AM (WSgyE)

98 I wouldn't need Socialist Security some 25 years down the line if .gov wasn't nicking my pay for 15% for the boomers that destroyed this country .

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 30, 2013 03:34 AM (4706v)

99 Damn, when did our country become a Mel Brooks script?

Posted by: Case at May 30, 2013 07:07 AM (jhRZ+)

-----------

When the president got near.

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 30, 2013 03:34 AM (mV8sg)

100 ---->I'm sure you have your retirement plan all set up, fully funded right now. Yeah, I thought so.

So if you don't plan for something the government should step in to make you whole, right?

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 30, 2013 03:35 AM (WVMUQ)

101 I'm sure you have your retirement plan all set up, fully funded right now. Yeah, I thought so

That'd be a lot easier to do without my wages being stolen (and let's be honest, I'm *never* going to see that money again), wouldn't it?

Posted by: GMan at May 30, 2013 03:36 AM (sxq57)

102 "I love them!"
http://youtu.be/dk47saogI8o

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 30, 2013 03:36 AM (khd7K)

103 We have done that twice already. And the average age at death once SS age is reached has only gone up by 5 years since 1930. Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 07:31 AM (lZvxr)

Oh, well we've done that twice already so we couldn't possibly do it again. Similarly, we couldn't possibly consider chained CPI and means testing for those under 55. Too horrifying to contemplate. Because - and I think we all know this - whenever you change something for the younger set, and completely exempt the older set, it's the same thing as picking their pockets of the latter group.

You're right, by all means, let's just let the sheer demographic weight of the Boomer generation drive us all off the cliff. That way long after the Boomers are gone everyone else can eat shit. Carry on.

(According to the rules of logic, strawman arguments can be completely refuted by strawman arguments.)

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 30, 2013 03:37 AM (sbV1u)

104 So if you don't plan for something the government should step in to make you whole, right? Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 30, 2013 07:35 AM (WVMUQ)

Yes!

Posted by: Free Shit Army at May 30, 2013 03:37 AM (sbV1u)

105 Louisiana postmark, eh? Wonder where, exactly?

Mayor Berline B. Sonnier
Basile, LA

Mayor Melvin 'Kip' Holden
Baton Rouge, LA

Mayor Ron Roberts
DeRidder, LA

Mayor Robert Grafton
Elizabeth, LA

Mayor Provino Mosca
Harahan, LA

Mayor Katherine T. Freeman
Logansport, LA

Mayor Mitchell J. Landrieu
New Orleans, LA

Mayor Rodney A. Grogan
Patterson, LA

Mayor Cedric B. Glover
Shreveport, LA

Mayor Cecil LaVergne
Sunset, LA

Posted by: Ken at May 30, 2013 03:38 AM (fFh95)

106 Oh, we used to dream of a can of tender vittles and a dirty spoon! There were a hundred and fifty of us sitting in a shoe box in the middle of the road. The best we could manage was to share a popsicle stick that the dog had licked clean just before biting mother and dad and giving them rabies.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 30, 2013 07:15 AM (zF6Iw)

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Luxury!

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 30, 2013 03:38 AM (mV8sg)

107 Been years now but 60 minutes interviewed some oldsters justifying payouts and the guy who struck me was the one who wouldn't consider means testing; "I payed in and it PAYS MY GOLF FEES"....

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 30, 2013 07:30 AM (WVMUQ)

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This "I payed in" shit is one of my pet peeves. When I hear that I want to grab whoever said it by the lapels and tell them: No, you didn't "pay in" to anything, you paid A TAX! And the government has no obligation to pay you back for any taxes you have paid. If you disagree with that there's a whole boatload of people in a government agency called "the IRS" (you may have heard of them, they've been in the news recently) who can set you straight.

Posted by: Nighthawk at May 30, 2013 03:39 AM (OtQXp)

108 It's too nice a day to get involved in a half-hearted flame war over SS. I got screwed twice, because as an employer for decade, after decade, after decade I had to match the employees SS 'contribution'. Within 3 days of every payday deliver that money to the bank. So, I leave you this... ♫ it's a world of laughter, a world or tears its a world of hopes, its a world of fear there's so much that we share that its time we're aware its a small world after all CHORUS: its a small world after all its a small world after all its a small world after all its a small, small world There is just one moon and one golden sun And a smile means friendship to everyone. Though the mountains divide And the oceans are wide It's a small small world ♫

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 30, 2013 03:39 AM (U2UQk)

109 "Obama's LIBERAL plan"? He's liberal huh? Good Lord, take me now.

Posted by: John Boehner, Weaker of the House at May 30, 2013 03:40 AM (u6nf+)

110

Remember Scooter Libby. A fuzzy memory of a years-earlier conversation got him convicted of lying to FBI Agents.

That is why you shouldn't talk to the police (without a lawyer): http://preview.tinyurl.com/o5g4krw

Posted by: Die Trying at May 30, 2013 03:40 AM (w7J/R)

111 Social security is, was and shall always be a ponzi scheme. As long as the inputs exceed the outputs you can keep the game going, we are well past that point and heading deeper towards calamity. Couple that with the fact that the money is treated as general governmental funds and not placed into a lock box and that at any time the government can change the formula for how it gets doled out and it amounts to little more than theft. Let me keep my money and I'll worry about my own retirement. And you can worry about yours.

Posted by: kreplach at May 30, 2013 03:40 AM (+NYjg)

112 Vic, we need to get you a lifetime supply of Pepto-Bismol. Don't know how you do it every morning. At least with your comments we have a choice on whether to click on each one. You sir, are a steely eyed missile man. Thanks for doing it.

Posted by: RWC at May 30, 2013 03:41 AM (Y1Iw7)

113 Since when is ANYTHING the Attorney General of the United States of America has to say off-the-record? He should be jailed at the mere suggestion that he be allowed such a luxury.

Posted by: Fritz at May 30, 2013 03:41 AM (UzPAd)

114 If I may interject: WE ARE BROKE. THERE IS NO MONEY. YOU GET - NOTHING.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 03:43 AM (JDIKC)

115

So if you don't plan for something the government should step in to make you whole, right? Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 30, 2013 07:35 AM (WVMUQ)

Did somebody say hole?

Posted by: Sandy Fluke at May 30, 2013 03:43 AM (zF6Iw)

116 You said it. They stink on ice! Posted by:Â Obligatory Mel Brooks ComebackÂ at Impressive google fu skills, or good memory. Regardless, i'm impressed.

Posted by: shredded chi at May 30, 2013 03:43 AM (2UrMT)

117 (According to the rules of logic, strawman arguments can be completely refuted by strawman arguments.)

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 30, 2013 07:37 AM (sbV1u)

It is already means tested. And your solution will be just like the last two solutions. Congress will simply spend it on bread and circuses. So how's your strawman working?

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 03:43 AM (lZvxr)

118 Morning!

Tamara Holder says she'd rather be a MILF than a fat loser.

http://tinyurl.com/nn4v474

One problem...Holder is not a MILF nor is she someone I'd want to fuck.

Posted by: EC at May 30, 2013 03:43 AM (GQ8sn)

119 Since when is ANYTHING the Attorney General of the United States of America has to say off-the-record? He should be jailed at the mere suggestion that he be allowed such a luxury. Posted by: Fritz at May 30, 2013 07:41 AM (UzPAd) IRS: About that Tax Return of yours? Taxpayer: Well off the record of course, yeah I pretty much made that all up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 03:44 AM (9Bj8R)

120 Let me keep my money and I'll worry about my own retirement.

And you can worry about yours. Posted by: kreplach

The bottom line question is are we as a nation willing to let starve those foolish old people who didn't save for retirement? If the answer is no, we'll always have to have some form of SS, which for many is just welfare because they didn't pay in nearly enough to cover their costs. Folks like me, though, would have been much better off being allowed to keep the money in a private account.

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2013 03:44 AM (YXmuI)

121 I have a retirement plan: I am going to work till I drop dead

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 03:45 AM (9Bj8R)

122 "Effective" is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Mitch. He has frozen Obama's agenda like Han Solo in Carbonite.

Let's see if he can stop amnesty that originated in his own party.

Posted by: Valiant at May 30, 2013 03:46 AM (aFxlY)

123 Congress will simply spend it on bread and circuses. So how's your strawman working? Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 07:43 AM (lZvxr)

Much, MUCH better than yours.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 30, 2013 03:46 AM (sbV1u)

124 WE ARE BROKE. THERE IS NO MONEY. YOU GET - NOTHING.

There is always money. It may not be worth anything, but pretty pieces of paper will still be in abundance.

Posted by: Weimar at May 30, 2013 03:46 AM (YXmuI)

125 I agree something must be done about SSI. I'm like Sean B. <55. Between my employers and me approx 15% of my wages have gone to SSI. Progressively change the age over the next 20 years. It will add some years to the system. Currently I would have to collect for about 12-15 years to equal what I and my employers have paid in. Doesn't count the potential interest accumulation. Don't give the old people shit cause the politicians screwed up the program. Compare to the 19 year-old I talked to the other day getting SSDI. Hurt in DD car wreck. Yeah. He was driving. There is a problem here folks.

Posted by: Golfman In NC at May 30, 2013 03:46 AM (/djtm)

126 Social security is, was and shall always be a ponzi scheme...

Posted by: kreplach at May 30, 2013 07:40 AM (+NYjg)
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The only difference between Ponzi and FDR is that Ponzi didn't have the means to compel the suckers to participate in his scheme.

Posted by: Nighthawk at May 30, 2013 03:46 AM (OtQXp)

127 Folks like me, though, would have been much better off being allowed to keep the money in a private account. Posted by: pep at May 30, 2013 07:44 AM (YXmuI)

Well, what makes this country truly great is jamming everyone into a cookie cutter solution whether they like it or not - or whether they need it or not.

Doesn't government do everything better than people?

Sh-yeah!

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 30, 2013 03:47 AM (sbV1u)

128 Pep-- The problem is your statement leaves out the solution- Charity.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 30, 2013 03:47 AM (WVMUQ)

129 One problem...Holder is not a MILF nor is she someone I'd want to fuck. That's all right more for me.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson at May 30, 2013 03:49 AM (N5ZQC)

130 One problem...Holder is not a MILF nor is she someone I'd want to fuck.

I would.

But only with a SawzAll

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 30, 2013 03:49 AM (sbV1u)

131 WE ARE BROKE. THERE IS NO MONEY. YOU GET - NOTHING. If I may interject, math is the problem. The IRS calculates that it only collects 83% of what it is owed. Look at the budget shortfall, do some math, and tell me that collecting 100% would not *fix* that huge freaking problem. But we can't fix that problem because people are gonna lie, cheat, and steal if they believe taxes are too high. If taxes were lower people would voluntarily pay them instead of stiffing Uncle Sam. Politicians and leftist NEVER EVER see that as a possibility.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 30, 2013 03:49 AM (U2UQk)

132 @129
Well, I suspect we disagree on the ability of private charity to cover such an enormous cost. Personally, I doubt it could, and if I am correct, what then?

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2013 03:50 AM (YXmuI)

133 Maybe the government should just write a check to those that have paid into S.S. all of their lives. Pay them back exactly what they paid in, with a little interest. And after everyone has been paid back, they can stop collecting "S.S". from everyone, and instead change it to "someone has to pay for all these new citizens" Tax.

Posted by: spypeach at May 30, 2013 03:50 AM (6xG9/)

134 If taxes were lower people would voluntarily pay them instead of stiffing Uncle Sam. Politicians and leftist NEVER EVER see that as a possibility.

THIS.

If taxes were lower people would voluntarily pay them instead of stiffing Uncle Sam. Politicians and leftist NEVER EVER see that as a possibility. And you're right, it would solve a big chunk (but not all) of the problem.

But...

NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 30, 2013 03:51 AM (sbV1u)

135 I'm 43. I told my dad SS was a fucking scam when I was 12, to which he replied "Yep and you can thank that that syphilitic, socialist,gimp-legged,son of a bitch Roosevelt for your. golden years poverty ." My moron credentials run deep......

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 30, 2013 03:51 AM (MIrKL)

136

The bottom line question is are we as a nation willing to let starve those foolish old people who didn't save for retirement?

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2013 07:44 AM (YXmuI)

The USA is a rich enough country that it could provide a safety net for those who, by foolishness or bad circumstances, cannot support themselves in retirement. However, the nation's wealth is now being so wildly wasted in so many ways that the safety net is leaking.

Posted by: Die Trying at May 30, 2013 03:52 AM (w7J/R)

137 @121 Let them eat cake or dog food quite frankly I don't care. If the money was put into a lock box with the sole purpose of funding retirement then I might feel differently but its not, its a tax that the government uses for general funding and writes nice big IOUs. Which means I'm being robbed up front and my proginy are being robbed down the line. Its a scam and should be abolished.

Posted by: kreplach at May 30, 2013 03:52 AM (49lPc)

138 Maybe the government should just write a check to those that have paid into S.S. all of their lives. Pay them back exactly what they paid in, with a little interest.

I'd take that deal in a New York second, which is precisely why it will never happen.

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2013 03:52 AM (YXmuI)

139 Sire, the peasants are revolting. Posted by: shredded chi at May 30, 2013 07:26 AM (2UrMT) Send for the piss boy! Where is Count De Money??

Posted by: rickb223 at May 30, 2013 03:52 AM (h1D+w)

140 The USA is a rich enough country that it could provide a safety net for those who, by foolishness or bad circumstances, cannot support themselves in retirement.

That is exactly what SS was originally intended to be.

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2013 03:53 AM (YXmuI)

141 I'd take that deal in a New York second, which is precisely why it will never happen. Posted by: pep at May 30, 2013 07:52 AM (YXmuI) I think a lot of people would, but you're right it will never happen.

Posted by: spypeach at May 30, 2013 03:54 AM (6xG9/)

142 Sir knight? I've just pissed in my pants... and nobody can do anything about it.

Posted by: Major Obama at May 30, 2013 03:55 AM (VWfCN)

143 WE ARE BROKE. THERE IS NO MONEY. YOU GET - NOTHING. FINE. YOU NO LONGER GET TO TAKE IT EVERY TWO WEEKS. You want a "hot" shooting war, there it is.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 30, 2013 03:56 AM (h1D+w)

144 You know what happens when Social Security goes "bankrupt" anyway?

They start taking it out of general revenue funds. Old people aren't going to be left in the street, dying of a lack of Viagra pills.

The left is good at playing on emotions like that though. Stop me if you heard that before. If you want to have a fight along chronological lines, you'll have to change shirts, because you are playing for the other team now.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2013 03:56 AM (BeSEI)

145 The question remains.... what poor son of a bitch is the ricin letter bullshit going to be hung on?

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at May 30, 2013 03:57 AM (VWfCN)

146 One problem...Holder is not a MILF nor is she someone I'd want to fuck.

Posted by: EC at May 30, 2013 07:43 AM (GQ8sn)

I looked at her picture. Are we sure that's not Barky in drag?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 30, 2013 04:00 AM (zF6Iw)

147 If I may interject, math is the problem. The IRS calculates that it only collects 83% of what it is owed. Look at the budget shortfall, do some math, and tell me that collecting 100% would not *fix* that huge freaking problem. -------------- So the problem isnt that SS has been raided and there is nothing but a file cabinet full of IOUs. It's that we aren't taxed enough. Never a spending problem in sight. It's always a revenue problem. Gotcha. "Ask IRS if 105% tax rate is possible." "IRS reports 105% possible but not recommended." "Take us to 105%."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 04:00 AM (JDIKC)

148 The question remains.... what poor son of a bitch is the ricin letter bullshit going to be hung on?

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at May 30, 2013 07:57 AM (VWfCN)

Thank you for volunteering, comrade! Bullet in head will be quick and merciful.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 30, 2013 04:01 AM (zF6Iw)

149 Fuck the media. They're only up in arms because this scandal concerns their personal interests. They've been doing to conservatives what Obama did the AP and what the IRS did to taxpayers for as long as I've been alive. The hypocritical manner in which our institutional government, the media, academicians and unionists have become basically one large interdependent cesspool should be the real story here.

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 30, 2013 04:02 AM (bS6uW)

150 I've told my kids that my retirement plans depend on which of them has the nicest basement close to a golf course . Which frankly is the way it should be.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 30, 2013 04:03 AM (xLYvy)

151 So the ricin letters had a "pink, oily substance" on them and maybe sickened a couple cops for 24 hours. I half-suspect a false flag bean farmer somewhere of whipping up ricin-lite for use by patsies. How hard is it to grow/buy castor beans?

Posted by: lincolntf at May 30, 2013 04:04 AM (ZshNr)

152 Nevergiveup: I brought this story up on the ONT last night. Then I thought you might get a chuckle over it. It has to do with all of the crazy coding (which includes 'injuries sustained from a turtle') for Obamacare: A buddy of mine taunted a big snapping turtle with the toe of his shoe once. He could've lost a toe. But he also gave himself a root canal with a cordless drill. After a week or so it festered up and he had to see a real dentist to get it fixed. I wonder if Obamacare has a code for a case of botched bathroom endodontic therapy.

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 30, 2013 04:04 AM (tOkJB)

153

One problem...Holder is not a MILF nor is she someone I'd want to fuck.

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Agreed.....I find no allure in Jesse Jackson's sloppy seconds.

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 30, 2013 04:04 AM (eytER)

154 The IRS can't get out from behind their desks once and a while and see where the missing 17% of revenue has disappeared to. They're too busy worrying about some Tea Party or Patriot Group. I see the fraud and tax evasion nearly every day. Neighbor just got new siding on his house last week. Not one of the workers spoke English. I buy produce for next to peanuts. Cash only business. Everyone speaks Spanish, except the clerks, who have broken English. I estimated annual sales at something like 90 million dollars for that place. Neighbors all use lawn service, paying cash to people with broken english. I could go on and on and on.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 30, 2013 04:05 AM (U2UQk)

155 I suspect that " only collecting 87%" estimate is a built in part of their Union's official position no matter what the real number is.

Posted by: lincolntf at May 30, 2013 04:07 AM (ZshNr)

156 Let me just say this about the ricin letters. It's wrong. No one deserves to be threatened or harmed and I don't condone it. But my fear is that there are a lot of unstable, and really pissed of people in this country right now, people who feel like they are being treated like subjects without a voice. I think it should come as no surprise that a few of these unstable people might start acting out on their frustration in order to get their voices heard. Again I'm not condoning violence at all, just saying that it's not surprising that this kind of shit is happening, I think it's more surprising that it hasn't happened more.

Posted by: spypeach at May 30, 2013 04:07 AM (6xG9/)

157 The fact is the biggest fiscal crises we face in this country are about maintaining payments to people who are no longer contributing, whether pension, social security, or, I suppose, welfare and disability. We relieve more and more people from the burden of producing and then burden the producing with producing for them.

Posted by: zsasz at May 30, 2013 04:08 AM (MMC8r)

158

Regular Moron at May 30, 2013 08:05 AM (U2UQk)

Yes, I am sure there is lots of tax evasion going on. Thing is, for the IRS to collect on that marginal 17%, you'd have to grant so many new powers to the IRS that we may as well put a hammer and sickle on our flag.

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 30, 2013 04:08 AM (eytER)

159 But he also gave himself a root canal with a cordless drill. After a week or so it festered up and he had to see a real dentist to get it fixed. I wonder if Obamacare has a code for a case of botched bathroom endodontic therapy. Posted by: Ed Anger at May 30, 2013 08:04 AM (tOkJB) I've never seen that, but I have seen some crazy shit. People can be inventive

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 04:09 AM (9Bj8R)

160 >>>I see the fraud and tax evasion nearly every day.

Not to worry, my friend. Our esteemed government has assured us we will make up the difference with back taxes from amnestied citizens.

Posted by: Fritz at May 30, 2013 04:09 AM (UzPAd)

161 How hard is it to grow/buy castor beans? How sensitive is the test? Would castor oil spritzed on talcum powder trigger it?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 30, 2013 04:10 AM (h1D+w)

162 Mexico defends its borders with troops, they have guns with bullets and everything. What other country just lets people walk in? This country is a joke.

Posted by: Case at May 30, 2013 04:11 AM (jhRZ+)

163 I guess I should have better termed it as: I wonder if Obamacare has a code for a case of complications from bathroom endodontic therapy.

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 30, 2013 04:12 AM (tOkJB)

164 So the problem isnt that SS has been raided and there is nothing but a file cabinet full of IOUs. It's that we aren't taxed enough. Never a spending problem in sight. It's always a revenue problem. I'd like to see where I said that taxes need to be higher. That's right, I never did. I said that tax evasion is rampant, because taxes are already too high and we have something like 11 to 30 million people in this country who breaking *another* law and stiffing the US Treasury is no big deal. They are taking a paying job away from a US citizen who would be paying taxes, and creating cash only businesses left and right. It's not rocket science to figure out that is a huge part of the budget deficit.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 30, 2013 04:12 AM (U2UQk)

165 Regular Moron, that's because the underground economy is the only one that's functional. I've seen barter increase tenfold in the last few years. Call it Adam Smith's pimp hand.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 30, 2013 04:12 AM (xLYvy)

166 "Maybe the government should just write a check to those that have paid
into S.S. all of their lives. Pay them back exactly what they paid in,
with a little interest."

I'd take that deal right now, with the same penalty for early withdrawal that applies to other retirement accounts. I'll even do it if it comes with requirement that I transfer it to a "qualified plan".

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2013 04:13 AM (CMlD4)

167 It didn't storm here last night. I brought the cushions in for nothing.

Posted by: I take back everything I said about this shitty blog at May 30, 2013 04:13 AM (9sjmH)

168 Good morning!

I see that today the Boomers are the punching bag of the day. Like we did the Social Security Law writing back in the 30's. No, that was MY grandparents' generation. Oh, well, then we Boomers were responsible for taking the money out of the fund, right? Oh, wait, that was people who were my parents generation in Congress.

I guess the REAL problem is that we Boomers are actually alive. Well, excuse me all to hell.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 04:15 AM (GoIUi)

169 Where is Count De Money??

Posted by: rickb223 at May 30, 2013 07:52 AM (h1D+w)

Just getting here. And it's De Mo-Nay, De Mo-Nay!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 30, 2013 04:16 AM (BAS5M)

170 Mexico defends its borders with troops, they have guns with bullets and LANDMINES!

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2013 04:17 AM (CMlD4)

171 Regarding Holder's meeting: Having just gone to Fox's website, I like the way they cover it--no chest thumping about whether they are or are not going to attend, just that they were invited. No trite pieties about the glories of journalism.

Those are folks you can trust, because they just aren't that into themselves, not convinced they are embarked on some holy mission.

Posted by: Ahab at May 30, 2013 04:17 AM (Hfjmb)

172 Marple I don't blame the Boomers on an individual basis. Except for disco. That's all you.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 30, 2013 04:18 AM (xLYvy)

173 As a follow-on to the NYT and AP drawing the line on the "off-the-record" press briefings, has anyone - particularly those two organizations - published a list of the <s> whores </s> journolists that attended the off-he-record Benghazi briefing.

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2013 04:19 AM (CMlD4)

174 >>>I guess the REAL problem is that we Boomers are actually alive. Well, excuse me all to hell.

That's a meatball begging to be hit out of the park. What's the count?

Posted by: Fritz at May 30, 2013 04:19 AM (UzPAd)

175 "Maybe the government should just write a check to those that have paid into S.S. all of their lives. Pay them back exactly what they paid in, with a little interest." I'd take that deal right now, with the same penalty for early withdrawal that applies to other retirement accounts. I'll even do it if it comes with requirement that I transfer it to a "qualified plan". Ditto. With one caveat. Not another fucking dime is removed from my paycheck for SS. EVER.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 30, 2013 04:20 AM (h1D+w)

176 164 I wonder if Obamacare has a code for a case of complications from bathroom endodontic therapy. Posted by: Ed Anger at May 30, 2013 08:12 AM (tOkJB) I remember SCTV once had a skit about do-it-yourself dentistry. It was sick but funny. Liquor was involved.

Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2013 04:20 AM (sdi6R)

177

Retirement.

My plan is to become a complete burden on society.

Posted by: Case at May 30, 2013 04:21 AM (jhRZ+)

178 All I ever hear is "if only these problems (which will never be solved) were solved, then there would be ample money for everything." No. Undeniably, they are bad things, but Fraud, SSDI and uncollected tax receipts from illegal immigrants do not add up to a 1.6 trillion dollar budget deficit. And that's last year's number. As we go forward, it gets worse. Unless we cut spending. There is not enough money to pay for all the votes Democrats need to buy without raising taxes.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 04:21 AM (JDIKC)

179

Who scheduled a thunderstorm this early in the morning??

(glares vaguely around the thread)

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 30, 2013 04:21 AM (SUKHu)

180 I remember SCTV once had a skit about do-it-yourself dentistry. It was sick but funny. Liquor was involved. Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2013 08:20 AM (sdi6R) Liquor is always involved

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 04:22 AM (9Bj8R)

181 #173 HA! Don't blame me for disco. I hated those damn Bee Gees. I was more of a Jimi Hendrix type in my younger days. And by the time disco came out I had 2 kids and was not out clubbing or whatever they called it.

Personally, I always believed disco was a sign of despair during the Carter years, much like leisure suits and hot pants were. Also flock and foil wallpaper and shag Carpet.

The 70's, no bad taste item was too loathesome to inflict on the American people. We saw a complete collapse in taste.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 04:22 AM (GoIUi)

182 "Maybe the government should just write a check to those that have paid

into S.S. all of their lives. Pay them back exactly what they paid in, with a little interest."

I'd take that deal right now, with the same penalty for early withdrawal that applies to other retirement accounts. I'll even do it if it comes with requirement that I transfer it to a "qualified plan".

Ditto. With one caveat. Not another fucking dime is removed from my paycheck for SS. EVER. Posted by: rickb223

Absolutely, I opt the fuck out. If I screw up, and my kids abandon me -- let me die cold on the street.

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2013 04:22 AM (CMlD4)

183

I place part of the blame on the Benghazi deaths on McCain & Grahamnesty. They wanted us to help the Libyan rebels, they were "heroes" to quote McCain. I have spent two days outside in my garden all day and was at work until midnight last night. I haven't seen that much news except email on my iPhone.

Crazy McCain wants to arms the Syrian rebels. That's not going to turn out well because we know AQ is in with the rebels.

What a crazy week. I was out in my rose garden Tuesday and at one point had to put on Sherpa lined sweatshirt jacket. Today it's going to be near 90.

Thanks Vic for the links. Of course TFG is full of lies. I wonder if any of the press are going to boycott Holder's off the record chat? I would love it if they went and then reported on it, especially if he admits he was wrong.

It's early and I was up very late. I must be dreaming with comment above.

Posted by: CarolT at May 30, 2013 04:24 AM (z4WKX)

184 http://preview.tinyurl.com/p3z32xd Lerner leaning on Republicans a pattern. Next: Vicious sociopath Garrison Keillor appointed to ACA Death Panel. http://preview.tinyurl.com/yarrawl

Posted by: Cretin, a high-grade moron at May 30, 2013 04:25 AM (R64dl)

185 Undeniably, they are bad things, but Fraud, SSDI and uncollected tax receipts from illegal immigrants do not add up to a 1.6 trillion dollar budget deficit. It's not that bad. WASHINGTON (AP) - A new government estimate says the budget deficit for the current year will come in well below what was projected just a few months ago. The Congressional Budget Office study predicts a 2013 budget deficit of $642 billion, more than $200 billion below its February estimate. CBO says higher tax revenues and better-than-expected bailout repayments by mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are the key reasons for the improved outlook. The deficit picture is expected to continue to improve next year and beyond, with the 2015 deficit now projected at $378 billion, just 2.1 percent of the economy.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 30, 2013 04:26 AM (U2UQk)

186 I had a gf in the Nineties whose mother and father were big partiers in the Seventies. They had a beautiful contemporary house and had never changed the decor of the huge "party room" downstairs. Shag, foil, day-glo, mirror balls, stuff I've never seen before or since. It was like going to a Disco museum.

Posted by: lincolntf at May 30, 2013 04:26 AM (ZshNr)

187 162 How hard is it to grow/buy castor beans? How sensitive is the test? Would castor oil spritzed on talcum powder trigger it? Posted by: rickb223 at May 30, 2013 08:10 AM (h1D+w) Getting the seeds a few packs at a time is no problem, however, unless you're a seed dealer, I'm sure a bulk order would get Big Sis watching you. From what I've read extracting the ricin isn't terribly difficult. You first need a press to squeeze the oil out of the bean. IIRC, the ricin itself is then extracted using alcohol. The problem is when it comes time to concentrate it. Any screw-up and you're dead. As for your question about castor oil, I dunno, but field tests are notoriously iffy. Lab test, OTOH, can measure parts per trillion. So grinding up half a seed (an insignificant dose) and adding that to some talcum powder might be enough to cause an unfounded panic. Did I say "unfounded panic"? What politician would want to start something like that?

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 30, 2013 04:28 AM (tOkJB)

188 Regular Moron - watch the man behind the curtain, that's the operating cash deficit, not future obligations and debt repayment. Failure to make bank on locked in future obligations needs to be counted against that number.

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2013 04:28 AM (CMlD4)

189 >>>Complete collapse in taste. We took your legacy straight into the 80s. But we were both better than the tattoo and ear lobe mangling generation that wears jeans with fucking holes to funerals.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 30, 2013 04:28 AM (xLYvy)

190 The fact is the biggest fiscal crises we face in this country are about maintaining payments to people who are no longer contributing, whether pension, social security, or, I suppose, welfare and disability. We relieve more and more people from the burden of producing and then burden the producing with producing for them.
***********
This.
I know so many people on SSDI, welfare, Section 8 housing, etc. and other benefits that it's mind-boggling to contemplate. And I live a middle-class lifestyle. There are many people on my street on benefits of various kinds; when I moved in to the neighborhood 20 years ago, everyone worked. And I don't think it's just a function of unemployment. It's become a lifestyle.

I have an entire branch of my family that live at the Jersey shore - 7 adults with adult children who live on benefits. Granted, they grew up poor, doing seasonal work during the summer tourist season but they were very hard workers. But once they discovered the benefits lifestyle, they succumbed and their children have done the same. Several of them have businesses on the side - eBay, flea markets, babysitting, etc. But they avail themselves of every single benefit possible.

And if anyone has seen the form for benefits recently, in most states it's been revised: if you apply for one benefit, like food stamps, all you have to do is check off that you want help with heating oil, phones, medicaid, housing, etc. and Bob's your uncle.

Posted by: jeannebodine at May 30, 2013 04:30 AM (LBBS3)

191 #187 When I was in my 40's I worked with a large furniture store's decorator doing complete room re-do's. I was in charge of going to homes and interviewing the clients.

It was amazing the rooms I saw that were frozen in time. People don't realize that rooms get dated, so they keep the same styles and colors for decades.

My favorite was a living room from the mid sixties, with "modern" furniture in electric blue and kelly green prints and a big glass hanging ball lamp in blue and green. It was pristine, had never been used because it was the "good" room.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 04:32 AM (GoIUi)

192 Checking my records I find that I and my employers have paid in $234,000. Yes, I will take a check for that except that Obama has already spent all of it plus some. I will have to collect SS for 11 years in order to break even. I will be long dead by then.

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 04:32 AM (lZvxr)

193 The house we're in now was heavily steeped in the residual debris of the 1970s. The basement had a shag-carpeted bar, wood paneling, foil and flocked wallpaper. And a spot on the wall where I'm sure they would hang the screen for stag movies. Upstairs had wallpaper in every room and hanging swag lamps. Pink bathroom. And this was in about 2005.

Posted by: zsasz at May 30, 2013 04:33 AM (MMC8r)

194 I had a gf in the Nineties whose mother and father were big partiers in the Seventies. They had a beautiful contemporary house and had never changed the decor of the huge "party room" downstairs. Shag, foil, day-glo, mirror balls, stuff I've never seen before or since. It was like going to a Disco museum. Posted by: lincolntf at May 30, 2013 08:26 AM (ZshNr) When I was in high school, I was friends with two kids whose dad was a big shot lawyer, and had a big house with a basement done in darkwood and red plaid carpeting that must have been the style in the mid-seventies when they bought the house; spent a few nights there as a teenager. About a decade ago, my sister and her husband bought the house. The red plaid carpet is still there to this day.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 30, 2013 04:34 AM (QXlbZ)

195 Drudge just bitch slapped Politico.

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2013 04:35 AM (CMlD4)

196 Just confirmed, Regular Moron. You're partially right. $1.1 trillion dollar deficit last year. That's four straight years of trillion plus dollar deficits. And next year it's going to be 378 billion because the CBO says so? GIGO.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 04:35 AM (JDIKC)

197 Also, saw Star Trek: Into Darkness yesterday. I think the Half in the Bag Review was far too bitchy. True, it is an action movie, not a Star Trek movie, and there are some WTF plotholes, but it's an entertaining ride.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 30, 2013 04:36 AM (QXlbZ)

198 #190 Those ear gauges are horrifying. There was a kid in front of me at the post office one day that had huge ones, along with tattoos all over his neck and legs (he was wearing shorts) and piercings everywhere and purple hair.

Probably goes home and bitches that he can't get a job anywhere.

I always wonder if these types have some sort of mental illness which convinces them they are made more attractive by doing all that stuff, or if they hate themselves so much that they are into self-mutilation.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 04:36 AM (GoIUi)

199 @185 I used to think that once they had completed their plans the only AHR (Authorized Human Reproduction) would be by Politically Correct Lesbians. Now I'm pretty sure the technology will require that the only new humans will be clones of Teh One, President Michael Jackson. There'll be Exalted Barkies to golf, and drone Barkies to serve Cosmos.

Posted by: Cretin, a high-grade moron at May 30, 2013 04:36 AM (R64dl)

200 The CBO is full of sh*t. Always has been.

Posted by: Case at May 30, 2013 04:37 AM (jhRZ+)

201 " worked with a large furniture store's decorator doing complete room re-do's."

I know a guy who did that, he made a mint on the side reselling art-deco stuff he was pulling out of old houses.

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2013 04:38 AM (CMlD4)

202

"Yeah, cut off SS to the old folks. Let 'em shiver in the dark with a can of tender vittles and a dirty spoon. There's a bunch of 10 year old kids with cystic fibrosis that need 500,000 dollar lung transplants."

Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to present to you the Mentality By Which We Are Fucked. C'mon folks, give him a big hand!

Posted by: Jaws at May 30, 2013 04:38 AM (4I3Uo)

203 I always wonder if these types have some sort of mental illness which convinces them they are made more attractive by doing all that stuff, or if they hate themselves so much that they are into self-mutilation. I honestly think such people are bored.

Posted by: zsasz at May 30, 2013 04:38 AM (MMC8r)

204 As for your question about castor oil, I dunno, but field tests are notoriously iffy. Lab test, OTOH, can measure parts per trillion. So grinding up half a seed (an insignificant dose) and adding that to some talcum powder might be enough to cause an unfounded panic. Ed, thanks. That was my question. We never hear that the ricin found was "87% weapons grade pure" or "5% You need a bowel movement" junk.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 30, 2013 04:39 AM (h1D+w)

205

Greetin's and salutin's, y'all.

What fresh new hell awaits us this fine day? What difference does it make?

SNAFU.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 30, 2013 04:39 AM (0HooB)

206 #202 Alas, I was not allowed to do any of that stuff. If I had all the 70's accessories I saw back in the 80's and 90's, I could sell it on eBay for a fortune, because now it is collectible, especially the orange and green glass!

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 04:39 AM (GoIUi)

207 Either way Jaws, the burning is coming

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2013 04:40 AM (CMlD4)

208 My ex-gf's mother still lives at the house. Now divorced, I bet she's kept it the same way. When I first met her, she pretended to be mortified at the outdatedness, but she loved showing it to people, talking about her glory days. Highlight: : One night both Cher and the guy who played Carmine on Laverne and Shirley came over for a party.

Posted by: lincolntf at May 30, 2013 04:40 AM (ZshNr)

209 Checking my records I find that I and my employers have paid in $234,000. Yes, I will take a check for that except that Obama has already spent all of it plus some. I will have to collect SS for 11 years in order to break even. I will be long dead by then. Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 08:32 AM (lZvxr) It's a shame really that they couldn't just do it, I think it would be cheaper in the long run to pay everyone back, then to continue to pay for those who haven't put one red cent into the system.

Posted by: spypeach at May 30, 2013 04:41 AM (6xG9/)

210

It is time to dismantle the IRS, they have lost all credibility. We should have a fair or flat tax. If we abolish the IRS we could probably afford Social Security for all Boomers.

IRS workers get two weeks severance and nothing else. IF they do not like it, go bitch to Lerner.

Posted by: CarolT at May 30, 2013 04:41 AM (z4WKX)

211 Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 08:32 AM (lZvxr)

Extrapolate that $234k with some modest interest.

You will have to collect for about 75 years to break even.

Don't you feel better now?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2013 04:42 AM (O6Tmi)

212 One night both Cher and the guy who played Carmine on Laverne and Shirley came over for a party. Do you think confused Muslims ever travel to Eddie Mekka?

Posted by: zsasz at May 30, 2013 04:42 AM (MMC8r)

213 Don't you feel better now?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2013 08:42 AM (O6Tmi)

Yeah, I think I will vomit.

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 04:43 AM (lZvxr)

214 I always wonder if these types have some sort of mental illness .... they hate themselves so much that they are into self-mutilation. Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 08:36 AM **** I read a tin foil hatter book in the seventies that predicted the "Cult of Death". Sociopathic behavior marked by selfish disassociation with human suffering, indifference to basic human rights like the promotion of abortion etc. Self Mutilation was a marker in the proliferation of the cult.

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at May 30, 2013 04:44 AM (VWfCN)

215
is Dan Foster someone we like now, or hate?
Posted by: pep

Depends on the "we" you're talking about. Foster was a "conservative" leading the charge at NRO to get GOProud in CPAC, advocating Gays as natural conservatives and so on. See: http://tinyurl.com/at8y6v6

National Review *shrugs*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 30, 2013 04:45 AM (kdS6q)

216 George W. tried to reform SS early into his first term. The Donks pitched a fit.

Posted by: Case at May 30, 2013 04:45 AM (jhRZ+)

217 Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 08:36 AM (GoIUi)

Mommy and Daddy didn't use the dreaded "NO" word enough.

These little fucksticks with the "Look at me, I am special" body mutilations have an incredibly inflated sense of self.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2013 04:45 AM (O6Tmi)

218 The AP, in addition to the NYTimes, said "no fuckin' way" (paraphrase) Politico replied: "Yum, yum gimme some" (paraphrase)

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 30, 2013 04:46 AM (7ObY1)

219 Why can't GOP Senators like Graham and McCain and McConnell be universally awful? It'd be so, so much easier to replace 'em if they didn't have those little tiny pinpoints of conservatism among all the D.C.-insider pustulence...

Mew

Posted by: acat at May 30, 2013 04:47 AM (gGEmy)

220 Yeah, I think I will vomit.

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 08:43 AM (lZvxr)

When I first started paying attention to retirement saving, my first assumption was to ignore SS payments.

Bourbon helps too.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2013 04:47 AM (O6Tmi)

221 George W. tried to reform SS early into his first term. The Donks pitched a fit.

Posted by: Case at May 30, 2013 08:45 AM (jhRZ+)

Yes, Bwarney Fwank said nothing wrong with Fwannie and Fweddy or SS.

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 04:47 AM (lZvxr)

222 What if an organization went in with a recorder to the meeting with Holder, taped it all, and then reported it? What could LEGALLY be done? Off-the-record is a gentlemen's agreement, not a binding contract. I'm sure the government would try to blackball whatever organization did it, but what if it was a major media outlet, such as the NYT?

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron used to be Virginia SoCon at May 30, 2013 04:47 AM (+/C3g)

223 Thanks Vic! Your commentary made

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 30, 2013 04:48 AM (qPCAa)

224 When I first started paying attention to retirement saving, my first assumption was to ignore SS payments.

Bourbon helps too.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2013 08:47 AM (O6Tmi)

I retired in 2005. I just got my first SS payment this month.

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 04:49 AM (lZvxr)

225 #218 Yeah, probably true with some of them. Others are old enough to be on their own.

I once remember when my son thought he would get an earring. I told him if I saw it on him I would yank it right out of his ear. (Early 80's.)

I kept my mouth shut about the mullet haircut, however. It grew out and wasn't permanent.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 04:49 AM (GoIUi)

226 Hey, c'mon down to NoVAMoMee, we're looking for more entertainment. Ontario/DCA.....2 hours by air. Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 30, 2013 07:24 AM (sbV1u) Wait, EoJ is Canadian?

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 30, 2013 04:50 AM (qPCAa)

227 Pharaoh Obama-II says he will assume absolute power to get what he wants.

http://is.gd/MplzaF

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 06:49 AM (lZvxr)

Â“WeÂ’ve got a politics thatÂ’s stuck right now,Â” he said, according to a pool report. Â“The reason itÂ’s stuck is because people spend more time thinking about the next election than they do the next generation.Â”

That is rich coming from that asshole. Loading up trillions of dollars of debt is looking out for the next generation. And fuck him for coming to Chicago during rush hour traffic. Every time he comes to Chicago to fund raise it's always during rush hour traffic.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2013 04:50 AM (1Jaio)

228 Posted by: Harrison Bergeron used to be Virginia SoCon at May 30, 2013 08:47 AM (+/C3g)

I asked that yesterday, but didn't get an answer.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2013 04:51 AM (O6Tmi)

229 Harrison, could you imagine the bitch storm if Fox did it.

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2013 04:51 AM (CMlD4)

230
How hard is it to grow/buy castor beans?
Posted by: lincolntf

Growing is easy. Back in the hood had a patch of 'em growing thru the fence between houses that just sort of triffided into existence.

Vicious, twisted, ugly sucker.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 30, 2013 04:52 AM (kdS6q)

231 Wait, EoJ is Canadian? ----------- No. I live and work there.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 04:52 AM (NfGzw)

232 When I first started paying attention to retirement saving, my first assumption was to ignore SS payments. The phrase "squirrel meat" features prominently in my retirement planning.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 30, 2013 04:52 AM (QXlbZ)

233 I just got my first SS payment this month.

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 08:49 AM (lZvxr)

Vic's buying!

Pappy Van Winkle 23 year old for everyone!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2013 04:53 AM (O6Tmi)

234 John Stossel had a short segment on Fox & Friends this morning asking the man on the street what they would cut from the federal budget.(This was after he showed them the current income and outgo of the Feds and a comparable budget if the Fed were a singular American household). Of course, none of the New York city folk had any idea what they would cut, although they agreed something needed cut.(eyeroll). Stossel, during discussion on the curvy couch, revealed that he had gone to the benefit.gov website and he personally qualified for 55 different government benefits, despite having a quite well paying job at Fox that includes health insurance. He added that he knew at least 55 programs that could be cut.....

Posted by: Jen at May 30, 2013 04:53 AM (avKc4)

235

WASHINGTON (AP) Â— A plan by Attorney General Eric Holder to hold meetings with news organizations about guidelines governing investigations that involve reporters has run into snags over the terms of discussions.

The Justice Department wants the meetings to be off the record. The Associated Press issued a statement saying it wants any meeting to be on the record, meaning it could be the subject of news stories. And The New York Times said it won't attend because of the department's off-the-record ground rules.

Ethical issues from the NY Slimes and AP? Someone check the temperature in hell

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2013 04:53 AM (1Jaio)

236 Breaking: Jobless claims jump 10,000 to 354,000. Estimate was 340,000.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 04:54 AM (GoIUi)

237 No. I live and work there.

Best of both worlds, solid currency, decent leadership, gravy on your fries, and an American passport.

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2013 04:54 AM (CMlD4)

238 No. I live and work there. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 08:52 AM (NfGzw) Okay, whew. I thought my Canack-dar was on the fritz.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 30, 2013 04:54 AM (qPCAa)

239 Wait, EoJ is Canadian?

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 30, 2013 08:50 AM (qPCAa)

No, he's there because Canada won't extradite him.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2013 04:54 AM (O6Tmi)

240 George W. tried to reform SS early into his first term. The Donks pitched a fit. Pitched a fit? They blocked it in every way possible, then in the most disgusting display ever at a State of the Union address, the Dems all stood up and gave *themselves* a standing fucking ovation when GWB mentioned his effort. It took the effort of every bone in my body not to rip a lamp off the table and throw it through the TV screen. I hate those bastids.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 30, 2013 04:54 AM (U2UQk)

241 I have the Weather Channel (all globull warming all the time) on with the sound off. Not only did the assholes start talking about 'outer space weather' some time back, today they started talking about 'weather that changed history'. Didn't moochel say she and brak had to change our history? Something in outer space does indeed change our weather. It's called the SUN! And weather does change history, like when it didn't rain like hell in Arkansas, I didn't load up my kayak and drive. These sorry sonofbitches should be ashamed of themselves. But they ain't. They are all liars.

Posted by: EROWMER at May 30, 2013 04:55 AM (kxlCQ)

242 The Big Ragoo!

Posted by: lincolntf at May 30, 2013 04:55 AM (ZshNr)

243 Parts per trillion? Well maybe. It's possible instrumentation has taken that kind of jump in the last 6 years. Or you could start with a monster sample size and concentrate the bejeebers out of it before analysis. ppb was the standard by GCMS with an ion trap detector when I was checking for gasoline fractions in ground water a few years back. Damn I miss the lab work.

Posted by: teej at May 30, 2013 04:56 AM (+jNI+)

244

George W. ~~tried to reform SS early into his first term.~~ existed. The Donks pitched a fit.

FIFY. But a President Poppins would have countered by sending each Dem a box of super absorbent Pampers with a note reading "change your diapers, crybabies."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 30, 2013 04:56 AM (zF6Iw)

245 McShitty pukes out another lie and gets called on it.

http://is.gd/15rKw1

Posted by: Vic at May 3, 2013 06:48 AM (lZvxr)

Thank you, Vic for link about McCain. I read it in an email yesterday but do not know where. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at May 30, 2013 04:57 AM (z4WKX)

246 Breaking: Jobless claims jump 10,000 to 354,000. Estimate was 340,000.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 08:54 AM (GoIUi)

How unexpected

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2013 04:57 AM (1Jaio)

247 #236 Stuff like the press revolt over that meeting tells me that there is more scandal than we are aware of, perhaps Benghazi.

Washington is full of gossip and I am sure reporters have heard things. I can't help but think that they are trying to separate themselves from their creation as quickly as possible.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 04:57 AM (GoIUi)

248 My favorite was a living room from the mid sixties, with "modern" furniture in electric blue and kelly green prints and a big glass hanging ball lamp in blue and green. It was pristine, had never been used because it was the "good" room. Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 08:32 AM (GoIUi) Sounds wonderful. When I worked on the road I loved getting stuck in motels built before the Interstates and still frozen in time -- somewhere in the late '50s/early '60s. They were always a great visit to my childhood years. And did I ever tell the horde I absolutely love the old boomerang Formica pattern? They brought it back briefly in the '70s or '80s but you can tell the early vintage stuff. It's pretty rare to see nowadays.

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 30, 2013 04:57 AM (tOkJB)

249 then in the most disgusting display ever at a State of the Union address, the Dems all stood up and gave *themselves* a standing fucking ovation when GWB mentioned his effort. Just to add to that, every time Senile Ol' John McCain talks about the 'decorum' of the Senate (when berating a Republican), I think of that moment and spit.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 30, 2013 04:59 AM (U2UQk)

250 >>> 217 George W. tried to reform SS early into his first term. The Donks pitched a fit. Second term

Posted by: fluffy at May 30, 2013 04:59 AM (z9HTb)

251 Obama: Â“I DonÂ’t Have Much Patience For People Who Deny Climate ChangeÂ”Â… Now he is an expert scientist also. what an arrogant fuck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 04:59 AM (9Bj8R)

252

CBD, I thought I remembered someone asking that. I wasn't sure if there had been an answer.

Jean, it would be just desserts for Fox to do something like that, but then Holder and DOJ could swing the argument back to "Faux News not a legitimate news organization that plays by the rules..." and the rest of the MSM might agree to play that tune. I want it to be ABC, CNN, AP, Washington Post, NYT, etc., both to head off the Fox News angle and to show that they truly are fed up with the situation. I still think there are a number of organizations out there who are still on the fence about the administration right now. I want to see one tell the White House to fuck off.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron used to be Virginia SoCon at May 30, 2013 04:59 AM (+/C3g)

253

"I think it should come as no surprise that a few of these unstable people might start acting out on their frustration in order to get their voices heard. Again I'm not condoning violence at all, just saying that it's not surprising that this kind of shit is happening, I think it's more surprising that it hasn't happened more. "

The American Revolution was launched and fought by unstable people? Hoodathunkit?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 30, 2013 04:59 AM (jz0+s)

254 There's more on Benghazi coming. I also suspect the list of reporters spied on is a lot longer. Then their is the IRS, those 118 White House visit generated some paper.

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2013 04:59 AM (CMlD4)

255 I remember SCTV once had a skit about do-it-yourself dentistry. It was sick but funny. Liquor was involved. Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2013 08:20 AM (sdi6R) In this case it was drugs: He was hanging out at a place that the personal physician of the world's champion kick boxer used to visit. When doc visited he passed out all sorts of drugs. My buddy had a toothache and drank half a bottle something the doctor had left. It made him numb from the waist up, so he took advantage of the situation. Used a Black & Decker drill in the bathroom mirror of a trailer.

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 30, 2013 05:00 AM (tOkJB)

256 LIB

Posted by: Hunker down and L.I.B. at May 30, 2013 05:00 AM (Cs2tJ)

257 Just a warning: I've found too many errors in Foster's columns. I can hardly call him indispensable. In fact, I've stopped reading him; he's just unreliable.

Posted by: George LeS at May 30, 2013 05:01 AM (C4s3i)

258 #249 I love that pattern as a nostalgic reminder of my childhood, although my taste is more to the traditional style of Queen Anne cherry and such.

My business is all about spotting those remnants of the 50's and 60's when I am hitting auctions and garage sales.

And now I must get myself to work, as I slept in this morning and have a lot of things to photograph.

Everyone have a great day! I will catch up with you guys this afternoon.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 05:01 AM (GoIUi)

259 Pappy Van Winkle 23 year old for everyone!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2013 08:53 AM (O6Tmi)

More like cheap R'nR

Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2013 05:01 AM (lZvxr)

260 James Comey, the guy who appointed Fitz, presented by Chuck Schumer during Asst AG confirmation.

nuff said

Posted by: John Kerry at May 30, 2013 05:01 AM (e8kgV)

261

State Dept hasn't decided if they are going to comply with subpoena on Benghazi talking points. WTF would happen if I did not comply with a subpoena? Jail?

Jail State Dept. Employees who fail to comply!

Posted by: CarolT at May 30, 2013 05:02 AM (z4WKX)

262

"More like cheap R'nR"

Set em' up Joe!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 30, 2013 05:04 AM (jz0+s)

263 Aren't they changing how they calculate economic growth next quarter? Be prepared for stories about how great the economy is going with no mention that it's a bogus change...

Posted by: zsasz at May 30, 2013 05:05 AM (ms33I)

264 Any of you ever actually SEEN a senior citizen that was reduced to eating dog food? I HAVE. I was about 10 years old and my Mother stopped by an elderly friend's house to see if she needed anything from the store. Mrs. P was a widow, Polish, who could not read English and so did not drive. She was a "brittle" diabetic and my Mother worried about her. Her little house was free and clear, so she had that. This was before Medicare. Her husband was a Teamster. He had been a Teamster since he was 8 years old sweeping up behind the teams of horses in Chicago. But, the never to be sufficiently damned or reviled Teamsters screwed him out of a pension he spent 75 years earning. He died a broken man after spending a lot of their savings on attorneys, leaving her with nothing but Social Security and no health insurance because that was lost with the pension. Now, you have the setup to the rest of the story. My Mom, my two sisters and I are there at Mrs. P's little house. She is sitting at her kitchen table and her feet ate swollen to 3 times their size. My Mom is telling her that she will fix her something to eat so she can take her insulin. Mrs. P starts crying and says, "No, it's too much bother." Mom goes to the kitchen cabinet, opens it, and there are only a few cans of dog food in there, she walks over to the refrigerator and it is empty. Mrs. P does not have a dog. Now my Mom sits down with Mrs P and cries with her, my sisters and I are crying. From then on, my parents bought Mrs. P her groceries. So, you will pardon me if I don't find the Alpo and Tender Vittles jokes very damn funny.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at May 30, 2013 05:05 AM (IHyzL)

265

A new system for retirement...

At birth, the government loans each person $100,000 at .5% interest in a self-directed (parents) account that can be invested with any approved firm. At 21 the loan matures and the $111,000 is repaid.

The balance carries forward with additional contributions by the individual. At 65, assuming a 5% return, the person has a 1.6 million.

The $100,000 loans don't impact the U.S. balance sheet because it's a wash between cash out and debt entry.

Posted by: jwest at May 30, 2013 05:05 AM (u2a4R)

266 I still think there are a number of organizations out there who are still on the fence about the administration right now. I want to see one tell the White House to fuck off.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron used to be Virginia SoCon at May 30, 2013 08:59 AM (+/C3g

ME TOO!

Posted by: CarolT at May 30, 2013 05:05 AM (z4WKX)

267

Aren't they changing how they calculate economic growth next quarter?

The dartboard is larger this year.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 30, 2013 05:06 AM (0HooB)

268 LOL. You guys are way too worried about the size and cost of caring for the Boomer generation. Don't worry. We'll take good care of them.

Posted by: Kathy Sebillius at May 30, 2013 05:09 AM (GVL0g)

269 Did I miss the mocking of McConnell?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 30, 2013 05:09 AM (CVCbH)

270 So, the GOP's choice was reduced to a ridiculous criteria, whereas the Democratic counterpart was not restricted in any way, that is 'losing more slowly' in my book, Whereas Von Spakowsky was blocked with a campaign of slander and innuendo, because he stood up for legal votings, and he would
have broker the logjam that Lerner put in,

Posted by: Dolphins Amalgated Local 220 at May 30, 2013 05:10 AM (Jsiw/)

271 Obama: Â“I DonÂ’t Have Much Patience For People Who Deny Climate ChangeÂ”Â…

Now he is an expert scientist also. what an arrogant fuck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 08:59 AM (9Bj8R)

He doesn't have patience for anyone who stands in his way of creating a workers' utopia. I thought Slick Willie was an arrogant jagoff but Barry surpasses him

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2013 05:10 AM (1Jaio)

272 There is a Reuters story out there this morning that describes current federal spending as 'austerity'. You can not ridicule that which is beyond parody.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at May 30, 2013 05:10 AM (epxV4)

273 Obama: Â“I DonÂ’t Have Much Patience For People Who Deny Climate ChangeÂ”

And I don't have much patience for blowhard Marxist pols who are supremely unqualified to lecture me about climate change.

Hey Barry, is flipping temperature reconstructions upside-down in order to get the trend you're looking for "science"?

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 30, 2013 05:13 AM (irlNU)

274 Dem Rep. Bobby Rush Slams GOP Sen. Mark KirkÂ’s Plan To Curb Gang Violence As A Â“White Boy SolutionÂ”Â… Once a Black Panther, always a Black Panther. Via Politico: Rep. Bobby Rush (D-Ill.) on Wednesday called Sen. Mark KirkÂ’s proposal to arrest Chicago gang members en masse to deal with the cityÂ’s crime problems an Â“upper-middle-class, elitist white boy solution to a problem he knows nothing about,Â” according to a report. RushÂ’s comments came in a phone interview with the Chicago Sun-Times. Kirk, a Republican, had suggested the federal government spend $30 million to battle gangs and use part of that money to Â“crush a major urban gangÂ” like the Gangster Disciples, the largest gang in the Chicago area. Â“ItÂ’s a sensational, headline-grabbing, empty, simplistic, unworkable approach,Â” Rush told the paper, adding that the $30 million would be better spent on job training and creation. Â“I am really very upset with Mark,Â” Rush said, adding that KirkÂ’s approach was an Â“upper-middle-class, elitist white boy solution to a problem he knows nothing about.Â” If I were to comment on this, I'd probably get into trouble

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 05:13 AM (9Bj8R)

275 270 Did I miss the mocking of McConnell? Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 30, 2013 09:09 AM (CVCbH) No, we've been waiting for you.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 30, 2013 05:14 AM (qPCAa)

276 199 #190 Those ear gauges are horrifying. They're called ear spools. And yes, they're very unattractive. Unless, that is, you're a member of some aboriginal groups.

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 30, 2013 05:15 AM (tOkJB)

277 Actual quote from a climate "scientist":

The ability to pick and choose which samples to use is an advantage unique to dendroclimatology.

I know you've never taken so much as a basic stats class in your choom-hazed life, Barky, but does that even sound like science to you?

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 30, 2013 05:16 AM (irlNU)

278 Â“I am really very upset with Mark,Â” Rush said, adding that KirkÂ’s approach was an Â“upper-middle-class, elitist white boy solution to a problem he knows nothing about.Â”

If I were to comment on this, I'd probably get into trouble

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 30, 2013 09:13 AM (9Bj8R)

Knowing Kirk he dropped his panties and bent over for Bobby. 3 people were killed and 6 more wounded yesterday in Chicago. Let's hear Bobby's solution.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2013 05:17 AM (1Jaio)

279 276 No, we've been waiting for you. Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 30, 2013 09:14 AM (qPCAa) Outstanding. Where shall we begin?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 30, 2013 05:18 AM (CVCbH)

280 278 Actual quote from a climate "scientist": The ability to pick and choose which samples to use is an advantage unique to dendroclimatology. Posted by: Waterhouse at May 30, 2013 09:16 AM (irlNU) WOW! Jaw dropping.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 30, 2013 05:18 AM (qPCAa)

281 So, you will pardon me if I don't find the Alpo and Tender Vittles jokes very damn funny. You're pardoned for my part. But there's a saying; Hard cases make bad law. Pretty much any law you want can be based on some real event. The problem becomes that the exception leads to the rule.

Posted by: toby928 at May 30, 2013 05:18 AM (evdj2)

282 So, you will pardon me if I don't find the Alpo and Tender Vittles jokes very damn funny. -------- Beans, rice and canned vegetables are cheaper than Alpo. So pardon me if I continue to make those jokes.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 05:19 AM (NfGzw)

283

If you like the generational theft that is Social Security, you're going to love the straight up robbery that is the upcoming effort to "nationalize" 401k's and IRA's.

Posted by: Jaws at May 30, 2013 05:20 AM (4I3Uo)

284 The poor you will always have with you. --Stuff Jesus said, Vol I, Chapter 26

Posted by: toby928 at May 30, 2013 05:21 AM (evdj2)

285 In fact, I've stopped reading him; he's just unreliable.
Posted by: George LeS at May 30, 2013 09:01 AM

Regarding any of the Pundits of teh Interwebz as "indispensable" is a joke of monstrous proportions. Of course they make mistakes -- instead of beating feet to get a real story, they rely on quoting each other and publishing "facts" they glean from various websites, which in turn gather their info from still more websites. Poppin' Fresh is a particularly egregious example of link-spreadage which, combined with his unparalleled quest for "fairness," totals up to a whole mess of nothing..

Teh Gabester lost me when he wrote about Bitch McConnell trying to "foil" Choom Boy's "liberal plan." Sounds too much like the click-this spam email I get from too many "conservative" groups.

Posted by: MrScribbler at May 30, 2013 05:21 AM (mHrip)

286 Pappy Van Winkle 23 year old for everyone!

I hate reading about exciting adult beverages on here and then clicking over to the LCBO site to find out that, naturally, they don't carry that item.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 30, 2013 05:24 AM (irlNU)

287 283 Beans, rice and canned vegetables are cheaper than Alpo. So pardon me if I continue to make those jokes. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2013 09:19 AM (NfGzw) Heartless bastard. Btw, why couldn't she read English?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 30, 2013 05:24 AM (CVCbH)

288

OK, new topic. I don't know which is the most soul-curdling element of this video: the woman, the exercise, the music or the pants. Actually, it's the pants. The very, very inappropriately snug pants.

http://tinyurl.com/o3lvqk3

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 30, 2013 05:25 AM (zF6Iw)

289 249 And did I ever tell the horde I absolutely love the old boomerang Formica pattern? They brought it back briefly in the '70s or '80s but you can tell the early vintage stuff. It's pretty rare to see nowadays. Posted by: Ed Anger at May 30, 2013 08:57 AM (tOkJB) My kitchen countertops. Original from the 50s. No way in hell would I have them redone.

Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2013 05:25 AM (zoehZ)

290 Beans, rice and canned vegetables are cheaper than Alpo. I've never understood the 'dog food' cliche, considering that. Dog food's about the price of a pack of hotdogs, as well, if it's about the meat.

Posted by: zsasz at May 30, 2013 05:28 AM (MMC8r)

291 The very, very inappropriately snug pants. Damn you. That was not the camel toe I was looking for. I'd guess the last time that camel got used was with the Donner Party in 1846.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 30, 2013 05:29 AM (U2UQk)

292 #288, She was Polish, came over from Poland as an adult after WWI. I don't know much about diabetes or the best diet for it, but, I do know she wound up in a very bad spot through no fault of her own. I may be a lady, but, in my mind, I spit on the ground and curse the Teamsters for their greed and corruption.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at May 30, 2013 05:42 AM (IHyzL)

293 #293 I believe you and also think that younger people are forgetting that at one time dog food WAS cheaper, before this nation became so nutty on pets (and I have a dog, so I am not a pet-hater).

My FIL was also stiffed by the Teamsters after working from age 49 to 75 at a grocery warehouse. The only reason he eentually got his check was that my brother-in-law contacted the Missouri senator who had contacts with the Teamsters and threatened to go public if something wasn't done.

Checks finally started coming about a year after he retired.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 30, 2013 05:53 AM (GoIUi)

294 I'm completely in favor of going with a "means testing" model. In fact, that's pretty well what has happened my whole working life. Back when I started working some 45 years ago, my Social Security (and/or canada Pension) tax was based on my income. As I worked my ass off and progressed up that ladder, I quickly got to the level where I was paying in the maximum amount.
I think, therefore, that means testing would be perfect ... thos of us that have paid in the maximum get a SS (or CP) pension based on the maximum amount, while Dick Ditchdigger who graduated from a "do you want fries with that" job to one washing dishes gets somewhat less than minimum amount.
Sorry ... after watching the rampant abuse of the so-called safety net, I'm all out of the milk of human kindness for strangers. My pay stubs have been showing Federal Taxes Withheld, State Taxes Withheld, and two different FICA taxes ... and one of those FICA taxes was listed specifically for my eventual SS benefits.
If I've actually become successful enough to be able to spend my SS benefits on golf fees ... WTF business is that of anyones? My yearly glossy brochures from the SSA telling me how much my monthly benefits would be NEVER specified that I had to use them for dogfood and dirty spoons. And while we're talking "fair" ... why is it fair to give someone who lived like a grasshopper the gains from the frugal person who lived like an ant ... hello, even Aesop knew better than that shit!

Posted by: GoldWingNut at May 30, 2013 05:55 AM (hXFm2)

295

So the reason SS is becoming insolvent is "the Boomers did it and I gotta pay, wah, wah". I'm a Boomer, almost 60, and I didn't vote for any of this shit. Neither did most of the Boomers I know. But from what I've seen here and elsewhere, a whole of of you Gen X/Y/Z/Millenial cockholsters sure did.

And let's not forget the real reason SS is running out of money now. The fact is the goddam Democrats started robbing the SS fund back in the 1960s to pay for their assorted socialist programs, botched wars and the like. and it has never stopped. But even after the Repubs took control of the Congress in '94, AFAIK they didn't stop it either. If they had simply left the SS fund alone there would have been enough money to cover the Boomers and whomever else. But no, they needed the money to buy those Commiecrat votes.

Social Security was NEVER meant to be the end-all and be-all of someone's retirement. It was just a supplement, a bit of extra walking around money for the elderly, and that's all. Anyone who thinks this was supposed to be an actual retirement pension is an idiot. Assuming I live long enough to retire at 65, I have a pension (pensions, actually), and SS might supplement that by a grand or so a month. Oops, forgot. That's BEFORE taxes. Oh yes, Uncle Sugar taxes SS as income, just like your pension, annuity or what-have-you retirement income as well, if any.

I could go on, but what's the point. Bottom line is that it's never as simple as some people would have you think...

Posted by: Cave Bear at May 30, 2013 06:20 AM (NKoXJ)

296 Stop collectivizing things that should be left to individuals. Retirement, healthcare, aid to the poor. Just stop it. There is no middle ground. Just stop it.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2013 06:28 AM (cQ4xo)

297 Posted by: jwest at May 30, 2013 09:05 AM (u2a4R) How about the government minds its own fucking business and stays out of mine?

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2013 06:33 AM (cQ4xo)

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