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June 25, 2013

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— Gabriel Malor

Happy Tuesday.

Survey finds 76% of Americans living paycheck to paycheck.

The President, still in search of a topic change, will today give a speech about global warming. He's going to sidestep Congress and crack down on power plants via the EPA.

The IRS reported yesterday that an IRS investigation has cleared the IRS of intentionally targeting conservatives because, IRS says, it also had progressive groups on its BOLO list. Of course, observes David Freddoso, that's garbage that ignores the difference between 501 c(3)s and 501 c(4)s. There's no evidence that liberal groups faced harassment like conservative ones.

Yesterday, the Supreme Court issued six decisions, including a disappointing punt on the issue of affirmative action in college admissions. Five decisions remain in the term and the high court will issue at least one and possibly all of them this morning at 10am.

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1 Good morning!

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 02:49 AM (GoIUi)

2 Good Morning Morons. Today is Tuesday, June 25, 2013. On this day in 1876 George Armstrong Custer and 268 of his men met their fate in Montana at a place called Little Big Horn. In short, he was stupid.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:49 AM (lZvxr)

3 Silicon Valley has lobbied a lot for the amnesty Bill that passed the Senate (with less than 70 votes). It must have some shit in it for High Tech workers that we have not heard about. This kind of shit pisses me off as well. Right now there is high unemployment in this area and they want cheap labor coming in. Piss on these people.

http://tinyurl.com/nkswegr

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:50 AM (lZvxr)

4 To be or not to be.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 25, 2013 02:50 AM (qyoyx)

5 Back in Oct 2011 King Obama signed an executive order to crack down on whistleblowers. Remember when these were heroes when the Evil Buuuush was President. Now they are Â“insider threatsÂ”. The order applies to ALL government agencies regardless of security status. So that tells you what they are really after.

http://tinyurl.com/ovj6hxv

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:50 AM (lZvxr)

6 The chickenshit Supremes sent the AA case back to the lower court. I figured they would blow it off but I didnÂ’t figure this. The question is, why did they agree to even hear the case. Most likely the 4 wanted to hear it and thatÂ’s all it takes to get it on the docket. But the 4 liberals were violently opposed to doing anything about the unconstitutional and illegal AA bullshit so there was no way they would be able to settle the case. Yes, if we had 2 new judges appointed by someone other than Obama we may have gotten rid of AA.

http://tinyurl.com/pejjk2t

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:50 AM (lZvxr)

7 DAY 231 1,230 to go (1,303 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 02:50 AM (+98Gb)

8 Also, I forgot yesterday to thank MPPP for the drinks and BCochran and Sean Bannion for organizing the meetup. Very fun.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 25, 2013 02:50 AM (jZUEZ)

9 A new Â“studyÂ” says 3rd hand smoke is dangerous now. The second hand study was such a farce a judge threw it out of court, but it is still being touted. Why donÂ’t these Nazis go ahead and make cigarettes illegal? This at the same time States across the country make smoking dope legal. But who says politics and politicians have to be rational.

http://tinyurl.com/oczmkdj

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:50 AM (lZvxr)

10 Muley warns Russia over Snowden. WhatÂ’s he going to do, send them a strongly worded letter? He canÂ’t send the alphabets over to review their phone records.

http://tinyurl.com/okyx2hx

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:51 AM (lZvxr)

11 IRS also screened liberal groups according to documents they gave Democrats. I donÂ’t believe it, not while shitforbrains has been in office.

http://tinyurl.com/ms3282v

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:51 AM (lZvxr)

12 Victor Davis Hanson in Levin last night during the first segment. Very well worth a listen.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 02:51 AM (+98Gb)

13 All you NJ Morons need to get you some Deepwoods Off. The Asian Tiger Skeeter is coming for you.

http://tinyurl.com/ned6foy

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:51 AM (lZvxr)

14 Elderly disabled man fined for putting up a bird feeder and for having a bunch of truly asshole neighbors, but mostly for having asshole neighbors. This is why stupid laws should not be tolerated, even if they are not enforced.

http://tinyurl.com/mlg782k

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:51 AM (lZvxr)

15 Illegals get a get out of jail free card with the amnesty bill passed yesterday. Lets hope the House squashes it, but I have no confidence in that. We should all change our name to Â“GonzalesÂ”.

http://tinyurl.com/nv4ctvu

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

16 How about this stupid statement:

Even hundreds of millions of dollars in agriculture subsidies could not stop 62 Republicans from revolting against House leadership and defeating the farm bill.

Why is it there when one paragraph later in a quote from one of the 62 who pissed on Boner says that it was the 80% that was food stamps.

http://tinyurl.com/nqflsc3

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

17 2 Good Morning Morons. Today is Tuesday, June 25, 2013. On this day in 1876 George Armstrong Custer and 268 of his men met their fate in Montana at a place called Little Big Horn. In short, he was stupid. If Custer were alive today, he'd be a GOP consultant.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 25, 2013 02:52 AM (uhAkr)

18 I guess Muley need to talk to the Taulleybahn some more.

http://tinyurl.com/ognu5bj

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

19 Issa subpoenas 4 State Department officials with direct knowledge of Benghazi. Why? He already has proof that Â“what difference does it makeÂ” Clinton lied to them. He needs to issue a criminal contempt citation, not more subpoenas.

http://tinyurl.com/obpnmf8

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

20 The Â“MustacheÂ” is considering 2016. Hell, why not?

http://tinyurl.com/oqcwrzl

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

21 All those Syrian rebels we are supporting? They want another Islamic theocracy. Anther big win for Â“smart diplomacyÂ”.

http://tinyurl.com/py42obt

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

22 Politico wants Obama to intimidate opponents. Just WTF do they think he is doing now?

http://tinyurl.com/qdwdtd2

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

23 Snowden intentionally hired on with the CIA in order to expose classified information. And it wasnÂ’t just to reveal spying on American citizens in the US. He is, in fact, a traitor regardless of any good he has done. So start the flames.

http://tinyurl.com/pjwuuuq

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

24 Palin, in a tight shirt, attacks the amnesty bill

http://tinyurl.com/l2e3wbd

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

25 Paul Ryan, Â“worst thing about congress is people who lie to your faceÂ”. You mean like you?

http://tinyurl.com/plhmy55

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

26 Love John Bolton for his foreign policy chops. Whether or not he is a corporatist RINO when it comes to domestic policy is the unknown factor. So far for me it's Cruz and Gowdy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 02:54 AM (+98Gb)

27 Byron York says Ratshit Rubio may be in for political trouble due to his flip flop on amnesty. No shit, but not for the Â“flip-flopÂ” but because for a lot of conservatives amnesty is a make or break issue. I have 3 issues (beside simply following the Constitution which none of them do) that are make or break. Gun control, taxes, and amnesty. He has shit on any ambitions of ever getting my vote. In fact, most of the Republican Party is shitting on my vote.

http://tinyurl.com/p49g7y2

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

28 Republicans seeking to end the ethanol mandate. WILL.NOT.HAPPEN while the Dems control the Senate and WH. As the political pundits on Fox noted Saturday, the Republicans should be hammering the Dems relentlessly over all the scandals going on, yet they are silent. Instead they are trying to pass bills that have zero chance of making it to OshitforbrainsÂ’ desk and even if it did it would be vetoed. Yes, the Party of stupid.

http://tinyurl.com/p8opztv

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:55 AM (lZvxr)

29 The Lakota and Cheyenne were not in favor of immigration it seems.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 25, 2013 02:55 AM (qyoyx)

30 Here's another "On This Day" tidbit from an earlier era: 1798 - Congress approves the Alien Act empowering the president to order non-US citizens to depart the country.

At the surrender at Yorktown at the end of the Revolution, the British played a tune called, "The World Turned Upside Down." Time to play it again, I think.

Posted by: Retread at June 25, 2013 02:55 AM (Oz+LZ)

31 Heritage looks at 10 major problems with the Â“amended amnesty billÂ”.

http://tinyurl.com/kaybv7g

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:55 AM (lZvxr)

32 And here's one for you;

Filming 1957 Gunsmoke episode. That's when it was good before PC took hold and Miss Kitty began to look like a hag.

Note the hills in the background. I guess they didn't expect most peple to know that Kansas is flat, not so with LA.

http://www.shorpy.com/node/15519?size=_original#caption

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:55 AM (lZvxr)

33 Kindle Daily Deals

http://tinyurl.com/p9mlhfj

And thatÂ’s it for today.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:56 AM (lZvxr)

34 31 Heritage looks at 10 major problems with the Â“amended amnesty billÂ”. http://tinyurl.com/kaybv7g Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 06:55 AM (lZvxr) I would defy anyone to find one minor thing in it that's good. Even the punctuation is evil.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 02:56 AM (+98Gb)

Asian Tiger Skeeter is coming for you.

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And this is why we need to control our borders.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 25, 2013 02:56 AM (mV8sg)

36 He's going to sidestep Congress and crack down on power plants via the EPA.

If we had a real congress he would be impeached. Hell, he would have been impeached long ago.

Hopefully one of the utilities will grow some balls and sue. Congress sure as hell is going to do nothing.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 02:57 AM (lZvxr)

37 Even hundreds of millions of dollars in agriculture subsidies could not stop 62 Republicans from revolting against House leadership and defeating the farm bill.

Why is it there when one paragraph later in a quote from one of the 62 who pissed on Boner says that it was the 80% that was food stamps.

http://tinyurl.com/nqflsc3

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 06:52 AM (lZvxr)

How fucking pathetic is it that Republicans are expected to be attracted to something because of subsidies? Does anybody understand a single thing about conservatism and we're spending too much money?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 02:58 AM (9Mux3)

38 We don't need those Gattling guns, they'll just slow us down!

Posted by: George Custer at June 25, 2013 02:58 AM (v0R70)

39 Tell you what, when the rebuilding time comes, we have to rethink this idea of delegating all of the most serious Qs to a group of 9 octogenarian lefties in black robes. The Founders got that one wrong, seriously wrong.

Posted by: Dale Gribble at June 25, 2013 02:58 AM (+kznc)

40 If Custer were alive today, he'd be a GOP consultant.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 25, 2013 06:52 AM (uhAkr)

There is no doubt that he was GOP then.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:00 AM (lZvxr)

41 Everything is a disappointing punt, innit?

Posted by: The littl shyning man at June 25, 2013 03:01 AM (PH+2B)

42 #9 is perfectly rational. Tobacco companies historically supported Republicans and dope growers support Democrats.

Posted by: Boone at June 25, 2013 03:01 AM (tIyK2)

43 The graft that Schumer doled out yesterday to the 15 traitors makes what Landrieux and Ben Nelson got for O-care look like chump change. And Schumer threatened to unleash riots if the House votes this down.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:01 AM (+98Gb)

44 14 Elderly disabled man fined for putting up a bird feeder and for having a bunch of truly asshole neighbors, but mostly for having asshole neighbors. This is why stupid laws should not be tolerated, even if they are not enforced. "Local government" is where asshole neighbors go to make the rest of us as miserable as they are.

Posted by: Dale Gribble at June 25, 2013 03:02 AM (+kznc)

45 #26 I have always voted with foreign policy as my #1 priority. Until Obama, I always figured any domestic screw-ups could be rapaired. Now, I am not so sure.

Bolton could at least explain what's wrong with current foreign policy. That would be good, I think.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 03:02 AM (GoIUi)

46 Paul Ryan, Â“worst thing about congress is people who lie to your faceÂ”. You mean like you?

http://tinyurl.com/plhmy55

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 06:54 AM (lZvxr)

Still waiting on those cuts in spending you promised in 2010, Paulie.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 03:02 AM (9Mux3)

47 So far for me it's Cruz and Gowdy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 06:54 AM (+98Gb)

The bad thing about it being Cruz and Gowdy is removing then from a place they are needed. It needs to be a conservative governor who is either going out of office or who is in a strong red State where another Republican is guaranteed electable.

Nikki Haley comes to mind but she still has a lot of term left.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:03 AM (lZvxr)

48 45 #26 I have always voted with foreign policy as my #1 priority. Until Obama, I always figured any domestic screw-ups could be rapaired. Now, I am not so sure. Bolton could at least explain what's wrong with current foreign policy. That would be good, I think. Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 07:02 AM (GoIUi) The Chi-Coms and mongoloid Russkies are wasting their money building up their militaries. They have an ally in the White House and Congress.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:04 AM (+98Gb)

49 If Custer were alive today, he'd be a GOP consultant.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 25, 2013 06:52 AM (uhAkr)

There is no doubt that he was GOP then.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 07:00 AM (lZvxr)

Little Big Horn is a good representation of Rove's "permanent Republican majority" and how it was realized in 2006.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 03:05 AM (9Mux3)

50 #44 Yes, and I note that the quote about the "nuisance" bird feeder came from the town environmental officer.

Pro-tip: Do not everlive in a town that has an environmental officer. It's a sure sign that your neighbors will be off the asshole variety.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 03:05 AM (GoIUi)

51 WUWT dissects the Presidents Climate Plan: http://tinyurl.com/kvoue27

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 03:05 AM (CMlD4)

52 Keep the pressure on your Senators, folks, particularly those Republicans who voted "Yes". Call again. The vote yesterday was to end debate-not on the bill itself.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 03:06 AM (KkzyL)

53 47 Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 07:03 AM (lZvxr) I love them for their smarts, leadership and so far, their integrity. We need a slew of them to run in the next few cycles. At least with a majority of them, we can oust Boehner and the RINO's so our people cannot be corrupted.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:06 AM (+98Gb)

54 The Founders got that one wrong, seriously wrong.

Posted by: Dale Gribble at June 25, 2013 06:58 AM (+kznc)

Read the Federalist Papers. They seriously though the court was the weakest branch. Little did they know that Adams was waiting in the wings to sabotage them and nobody would do anything about it. Jefferson tried but was blocked at every turn.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:06 AM (lZvxr)

55 Lame Cherry take on the immigration vote Upon inquiry, a call was made by the Jinn to Mormon Hatch of Utah. The call was conducted directly a the Jinn hates Hatch. The content was simple in Hatch frequents on a monthly basis an apartment in DC run by a burb brothel which uses under age girls. Hatch hooks up with a regular there in the 16 to 17 year old range. Cialis is involved. It was this information which moved Hatch to vote for the border buster overthrow of America. It was not necessary, but as stated the Jinn detests Hatch. That part is fascinating as a demonic entity exhibiting what would seem base human nature in just doing something because it could. Hatch to save his twilight reputation did the affirmative vote. It was the girl thing which has him as Ted Kennedy's best bud which never made any sense, unless of course buds of a bush pollinate together. There are others being blackmailed in this vote too on both the democratic and republican sides.

Posted by: Bob Dole at June 25, 2013 03:06 AM (G6kli)

56 If Custer were alive today, he'd be a GOP consultant. He'd have Boner's job.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 03:07 AM (KvM9d)

57 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 07:01 AM (+98Gb)

I don't recall SC getting anything for Graham's turncoating. Hell they knew he was a cheap whore and would blow them for free.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:08 AM (lZvxr)

58 52 Keep the pressure on your Senators, folks, particularly those Republicans who voted "Yes". Call again. The vote yesterday was to end debate-not on the bill itself. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 07:06 AM (KkzyL) To pass in the Senate, do they need 60 or just a simple majority?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:09 AM (+98Gb)

59 "Local government" is where asshole neighbors go to make the rest of us as miserable as they are.

Posted by: Dale Gribble at June 25, 2013 07:02 AM (+kznc)

What that elderly man should do (if its not too late) is go around town and catalog all the other homes with bird feeders. The tell the city council t drop the charges or he would sue for violation of the 14th amendment.

The courts have ruled on this long ago. Laws unequally enforced are unconstitutional.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:10 AM (lZvxr)

60 The Â“MustacheÂ” is considering 2016. Hell, why not?

http://tinyurl.com/oqcwrzl

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 06:53 AM (lZvxr)
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That'll drive the party "leadership" to their Fainting Couches for sure.

'Morning all!

Posted by: Nighthawk at June 25, 2013 03:10 AM (OtQXp)

61 56 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 07:01 AM (+98Gb) I don't recall SC getting anything for Graham's turncoating. Hell they knew he was a cheap whore and would blow them for free. Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 07:08 AM (lZvxr) Any large agribusiness or other concerns in SC that use slave labor? I imagine Goober gets his lucre under the table somewhere.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:11 AM (+98Gb)

62 59 That'll drive the party "leadership" to their Fainting Couches for sure. 'Morning all! Posted by: Nighthawk at June 25, 2013 07:10 AM (OtQXp) Anyone know where Bolton stands on fiscal policy and the Constitution in general?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:11 AM (+98Gb)

63 Sefton- This is a note from someone at "Hot Air" And a helpful note on "Hot Air": All they need to pass it now is 51. There are 53 dems. It doesnÂ’t matter if every republican votes against it now. The cloture vote is the one that mattered. xblade on June 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM No, they still need 60. Cruz said on a teleconference after the vote that he thinks thereÂ’s 20 or so still on the fence. 27 voted no. Lee was on a plane and Enzi was probably a no. Throw in one of the GA senators that didnÂ’t vote. YouÂ’ve got 30. You need 10 more to get to 40 which kills it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 03:14 AM (KkzyL)

64 And Schumer threatened to unleash riots if the House votes this down. Wonder what they'd do if we threatened armed hunting parties if they didn't? How much more illegal would that be considered vs. inciting riots? It's past time to call their bluff. You want to riot? Fine. Do it. Hunting season is open. No daily limit. No bag limit.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 03:15 AM (KvM9d)

65 62 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 07:14 AM (KkzyL) Maybe Hatch and Wicker will sober up. The others are a lost cause, I fear.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:15 AM (+98Gb)

66 To pass in the Senate, do they need 60 or just a simple majority?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 07:09 AM (+98Gb)

The way the "news" was describing it yesterday that vote was a "test vote" to see if they could get cloture. They still have another 60 vote real cloture vote to go but you can see it is a done deal.

Once they get the real cloture vote then it goes to simple majority. In effect, the cloture vote is the vote to pass the bill.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:17 AM (lZvxr)

67 Nothing else happened eh? Obama cars... Of course SC got nothing... As much as farming SC enjoys amigo grande in myrtle beach... Gotta have underpaid maids amigo I'll be on the road.... The McCain gang are a bunch of whores.....cheap whores who only ask to get a hit at the crack pipe. Gonna have ice cream for breakfast and ponder why our gagglefuck of GOP senators can't get it through their fucking heads making Schumer and Choom happy ain't their goddamned job

Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 03:17 AM (NFAtT)

68 Gotta have underpaid maids amigo Gets expensive flying down to the Dominican Republic for hookers.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 03:19 AM (KvM9d)

69 Vic They need sixty, and there's always a chance someone could be moved over by pressure, otherwise we might as well sit on our hands in the corner and cry and let the Dons do whatever they want.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 03:19 AM (KkzyL)

70 63 Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 07:15 AM (KvM9d) I'm as pissed as you are. I wish we had the unlimited resources of time and money to round up and bus a few hundred thousand people to Capitol Hill. Unfortunately, most of us have, what's the word? "Responsibilites." Plus the rent-a-mobs are welfare queens, illegals, hippies, cop-car shitters who get paid by Democrats (our tax dollars at work) and have the time to cause unrest. If we actually did organize EN MASSE they would shit their pants well before they could a police car and run. Please G-d, one day soon.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:19 AM (+98Gb)

71 The vote yesterday was to end debate-not on the bill itself. Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Was this meant to be a Custer's Last Stand reference? Its over in the Senate, all that remains is counting coup. Maybe collecting a few scalps - lets review the list of Republicans who can be primaried.

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 03:20 AM (CMlD4)

72 I'm calling my other Senator again and he voted to end debate. I called the other one too but he's part of the gang of 8.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 03:20 AM (KkzyL)

73 Any large agribusiness or other concerns in SC that use slave labor? I imagine Goober gets his lucre under the table somewhere.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 07:11 AM (+98Gb)

LOL, AAMOF a few years ago some kind of a farm in mid-State had imported a bunch of cheap labor (legally). A young woman was brought along with them and the migrants had her locked up in a shed being used as a sex slave for the laborers. SC got wind of it and moved in. Charged them with operating slave labor and prostitution. Some migrants went up the river.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:20 AM (lZvxr)

74 The Mustache is largely unknown on domestic policy. He will have a lot of edumacating to do.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:21 AM (lZvxr)

75 FenelonSpoke, before this thread gets going, I want to thank you for what you wrote at the end of the ONT. Wise words. I always appreciate your posts.

Posted by: LadyS at June 25, 2013 03:21 AM (e+N9Q)

76 You guys can do what you want, of course. I will continue to call my Senator until the vote is taken and then move on to the House and then I'll take about primaries.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 03:21 AM (KkzyL)

A new Â“studyÂ” says 3rd hand smoke is dangerous now.

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So i assume that those of us with only 2 hands are safe.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 25, 2013 03:22 AM (SO2Q8)

78 72 Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 07:20 AM (lZvxr) Wow, I used the term "slave labor" figuratively.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:22 AM (+98Gb)

79 And Schumer threatened to unleash riots if the House votes this down.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 07:15 AM (KvM9d)

That oily fuck needs to be called out for his constant appeal to deadbeats to raise hell over passing his dogshit bills which can't stand scrutiny of just how fucking bad they are.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 03:22 AM (9Mux3)

80 Thanks for your kind words, LadyS.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 03:22 AM (KkzyL)

81 Unfortunately, most of us have, what's the word? "Responsibilites." Yeah. Speaking of that, shower time. Then on the road to that thing that pays for the welfare queens to "do their thang". Be back in a bit y'all.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 03:22 AM (KvM9d)

82 Paul Ryan like Rubio is a fraud. If he was serious why doesn't he attack the nearly billion dollar payola California was given to implement obamacare. Over 1/2 of which is going directly into the pockets of democrat front groups. With the exception of a precious few they are all outright crooks and charletans.

Posted by: kreplach at June 25, 2013 03:22 AM (u5ozF)

83 45 Miss Marple, I've always voted Foreign Policy first and been a hawk who favors "big military"..now I'm not so sure. Obama uses the military to empower Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood and apparently no one cares that he never goes to Congress or the UN. Nobody notices the double and triple standards of the media on it. Snowden a traitor? Yeah he ain't alone.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 03:23 AM (NFAtT)

84 75 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 07:21 AM (KkzyL) My senators are Gillbrand and Schumer. Can I call the fence-sitters or do they only take calls from constituents?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:23 AM (+98Gb)

85 They need sixty, and there's always a chance someone could be moved over by pressure, otherwise we might as well sit on our hands in the corner and cry and let the Dons do whatever they want. Posted by: FenelonSpoke

They needed sixty, the next vote is majority only - 51

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 03:23 AM (CMlD4)

86 Can I call the fence-sitters or do they only take calls from constituents?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Constituents, surely you jest. Contributors - maybe

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 03:24 AM (CMlD4)

87 We should all change our name to Â“GonzalesÂ”.

I used to work with a guy named Gonzales...pale as I am (which is really fucking pale...), figured there was a Spaniard somewhere more than five generations back. Said he'd get all kinds of job interviews, they'd love the phone screen and bring him on-site, and as soon as the HR wench looked at him the interview would be over.

Still loved him some SCOAMF, though.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, grumpier than usual at June 25, 2013 03:25 AM (hO8IJ)

88 78 Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 07:22 AM (9Mux3) Many years ago, I happened to pass Schumer walking by himself on a very quiet street in Brooklyn Heights. The temptation was tremendous.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:25 AM (+98Gb)

Asian Tiger Skeeter is coming for you.

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Speading dieseases that American skeeters won't

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 25, 2013 03:25 AM (SO2Q8)

90 Hi, Jean. How are the skeeters over your way?

Posted by: LadyS at June 25, 2013 03:25 AM (e+N9Q)

91 Wow, I used the term "slave labor" figuratively.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 07:22 AM (+98Gb)

SC doesn't have a lot of illegals because it is an "illegal unfriendly" State. They can't collect welfare here or food stamps.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:25 AM (lZvxr)

92 They needed sixty, the next vote is majority only - 51

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 07:23 AM (CMlD4)

That isn't the way the news described it yesterday.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:26 AM (lZvxr)

93 morning!

As far as Silicon Valley lobbying a lot for the amnesty Bill..

As I've been saying, the dirty little secret of this bill is that 40% of illegals are visa overstays.. a lot of them were here on high tech H-1B visas and never went home.. and many more just came to visit and never left. They are well educated and just waiting for their chance to take our high tech jobs.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2013 03:26 AM (UTq/I)

----

The Headline i want to see

"Walker Runs, wins race"

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 25, 2013 03:27 AM (SO2Q8)

95 90 Vic, Not "a lot" but the ones it has are used in a very organized way. Plenty on the gran strand Vic. Hope you weathered the storms okay.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 03:27 AM (NFAtT)

96 Then fact is they take calls from anyone in their area. What they sometimes don't do is receive e-mails outside of their areas. I have never called a Senator from another state.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 03:28 AM (KkzyL)

97 93 The Headline i want to see "Walker Runs, wins race" Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 25, 2013 07:27 AM (SO2Q

Scott Walker has been quiet for a while. Hope he's keeping his powder dry. Good man by all indications.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:29 AM (+98Gb)

If Custer were alive today, he'd be a GOP consultant.

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Now there was a man who knew how to find a hill to die on....

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 25, 2013 03:29 AM (SO2Q8)

99 Does Walker really have what it takes?

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 25, 2013 03:29 AM (X4HxX)

100 97 If Custer were alive today, he'd be a GOP consultant. --- Now there was a man who knew how to find a hill to die on.... Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 25, 2013 07:29 AM (SO2Q

I think the hill found him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:30 AM (+98Gb)

101 84 Jean, Correct the last gasp stop is cloture. It passed, the GOP had 2 chances to stop it. Filibuster putting it to the question and the clotures. It was never gonna get stopped with half our caucus working for the other team.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 03:30 AM (NFAtT)

102 "The vote -- which was technically a vote to shut down debate on the amendment -- needed 60 senators to proceed. That it attracted 67 senators effectively demonstrates the entire bill likely has more than enough votes to pass the chamber."

The Horker amendment, full of pork and flash, was the 'Pubs white flag in the Senate. It's the beard they need to say they wanted stronger border enforcement, without actually having stronger border enforcement - which would piss off the Chamber and agri-business donors. They will shut down debate on the whole bill by 62-38 if we are lucky, probably 65-35.

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 03:32 AM (CMlD4)

103 98 Does Walker really have what it takes? Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 25, 2013 07:29 AM (X4HxX) A Republican governor from the birthplace of American progressivism beats them twice and defangs the unions. I'd say that would qualify for "what it takes," at least in my book.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:32 AM (+98Gb)

104 Many years ago, I happened to pass Schumer walking by himself on a very quiet street in Brooklyn Heights.

The temptation was tremendous.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 07:25 AM (+98Gb)

The pictures of Schmucky Sleaze with the gang of 8 were pretty telling. He looked like a fucking ghoul as that imbecile Rubio did his bidding like a puppet. McCain looked like somebody who'd suffered a stroke from the weird not-in-contact-with-reality look on his face. McQueeg has never been remotely close to what you'd call "intelligent"; that's a documented fact. And the vanity of that egomaniacal cocksucker would never allow him to admit he'd suffered a petit or grand mal. So who knows what goes on in his empty head, other than it's not good for the country.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 03:32 AM (9Mux3)

105 Hi, Jean. How are the skeeters over your way? Posted by: LadyS

Not bad, compared to last year. The lake is still cold.

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 03:33 AM (CMlD4)

106 Hope you weathered the storms okay.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 07:27 AM (NFAtT)

Mostly lightning, thunder, and wind. I didn't lose anything.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:34 AM (lZvxr)

107 102 JJ Sefton, Walker has what it takes in spades. He had a revolving door riot going on in Madison and held firm. The GOP at the state level is mostly okay and meeting the people's needs and desires it is the Senate GOP and some congress critters that need tuning up. If the national GOP is so removed from we their voters it needs punished hard. They do not fear losing Conservatives votes at all..... Am losing my fear of losng their seats....

Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 03:36 AM (NFAtT)

108 From what I understand there will be a real cloture vote later this week (this was billed as a "test" vote). After that vote, which they now know will pass, they will vote on the actual bill and that will only need 51.

It then goes to the House. Conservatives are calling on Boner to not bring it to floor. He can do that if he doesn't break down in the fit of tears. The problem if he brings it to the floor and they vote it down, there is still a pathway in a joint House/Senate conference to iron out a "compromise".

The only way to truly kill it is not even bring it to a vote.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:39 AM (lZvxr)

109 The only way to truly kill it is not even bring it to a vote.
Posted by: Vic

Put in a top level kicker that links legalization to the black unemployment rate, send it back to Senate. Just to watch it die.

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 03:41 AM (CMlD4)

110 106 Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 07:36 AM (NFAtT) I think that Walker could do it. Aside from fighting the Democrat money machine (Soros and the US Treasury) we have to fight the Republican money machine; the corporatists who will benefit from cheap labor depressing the wage scale. They are turning from capitalism to fascism (economic), figuring it's better to be in bed with the government. They will help stifle competition in return for allegiance to the progressive cause.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:41 AM (+98Gb)

111 107 Vic, Which Reid does CONSTANTLY to House legislation and is "okay" with media and punditry.... I hate the McCain gang maybe more than Schumer et al

Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 03:42 AM (NFAtT)

112 There is not a snowballs chance in hell that boener does not bring the shamnesty bill to the floor. He works for the democrats he does not work for our interests.

Posted by: kreplach at June 25, 2013 03:43 AM (qad38)

113 I'm calling for 500,000 people to show up on Capitol Hill tomorrow. Be there. Ahora, er, Aloha.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:43 AM (+98Gb)

114 What the words "progressive" and "occupy" triggered at the IRS is different than what the words "tea party", "patriot", "Constitution", et al did. We already know lefty groups had their tax-exempt statuses expedited; what we're finding out is it was key words that triggered said expediting.

Posted by: steveegg at June 25, 2013 03:44 AM (o44nj)

115 111 There is not a snowballs chance in hell that boener does not bring the shamnesty bill to the floor. He works for the democrats he does not work for our interests. Posted by: kreplach at June 25, 2013 07:43 AM (qad3

I don't even fear you're right; I know you're right.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:44 AM (+98Gb)

116 113 What the words "progressive" and "occupy" triggered at the IRS is different than what the words "tea party", "patriot", "Constitution", et al did. We already know lefty groups had their tax-exempt statuses expedited; what we're finding out is it was key words that triggered said expediting. Posted by: steveegg at June 25, 2013 07:44 AM (o44nj) So we should all register Democrat, click on Daily Kos and Dem Underground, and start 501-c3's with the word "Progressive" in it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:45 AM (+98Gb)

117 >>>Put in a top level kicker that links legalization to the black unemployment rate, send it back to Senate. Just to watch it die.

Yup. Been saying for a while now that instead of pandering to illegals Rep. should look at Black Americans and say "we want jobs for you".

Posted by: rip van winkin at the 80s at June 25, 2013 03:45 AM (WVMUQ)

118 112 JJ Sefton, If you're serious I'll go. It's on my way arguably. I mean it adds 2 hours maybe 4 to my trip. We need a bus fleet. The right wing needs to get organized, but I think 2012 blew a lot of people's hearts out.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 03:46 AM (NFAtT)

119 I'm calling for 500,000 people to show up on Capitol Hill tomorrow. Armed. They want a riot? Bring it bitchez.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 03:46 AM (KvM9d)

120 115 JJ Sefton, Hardly a joke. Citizens and workers for economic Progress

Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 03:47 AM (NFAtT)

121 Yes, choosing a governor with executive experience, like Walker, is always superior than snagging some random turd in the Senate like McRINO and Dole. St Willard of the Latter Days had executive experience, he was just as bad of a campaigner as his dipshit father had been who got rolled by Nixon after some daft statement of how we were "brainwashed" into getting into Viet Nam. That type of insane shit appeals to Top Men but not many others.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 03:48 AM (9Mux3)

122 118 I'm calling for 500,000 people to show up on Capitol Hill tomorrow. Armed. They want a riot? Bring it bitchez. Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 07:46 AM (KvM9d) Bring your legs too. Sheesh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:48 AM (+98Gb)

123 This is going to be entertaining, watching Boris dominate Zero. Schoolyard bully, but a smart one, does his alpha male thing to the skinny chump.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at June 25, 2013 03:48 AM (PH+2B)

124 119 115 JJ Sefton, Hardly a joke. Citizens and workers for economic Progress Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 07:47 AM (NFAtT) Who says I was joking? I mean it. Flood the zone, baby.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:48 AM (+98Gb)

125 As I've been saying, the dirty little secret of this bill is that 40% of illegals are visa overstays.. a lot of them were here on high tech H-1B visas and never went home.. and many more just came to visit and never left. They are well educated and just waiting for their chance to take our high tech jobs. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2013 07:26 AM (UTq/I) taking our jerbs!

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 25, 2013 03:49 AM (X4HxX)

126 @114 I've seen nothing in this mans deeds and actions that would lead me to believe otherwise. The progressives and statists smell victory their long march may finally deliver the coup de grace to America they have been dreaming of. Amnesty is the end of America as we have known it.

Posted by: kreplach at June 25, 2013 03:49 AM (hjRtO)

127 117 Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 07:46 AM (NFAtT) Well, I am being serious. I don't have the chops to get half a million behind me. YET!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:49 AM (+98Gb)

128 I disagree with you guys on that feeder thing. Mainly because I live in a boro/town - pretty busy - and have tons of retired neighbors like this who put out food - and this was just food, out, not a normal bird feeder !!!! They put out food (like this, not a bird feeder!!!) and all KINDS of critters come from everywhere - deer, raccoons, we even had a freaking coyote! in West Chester PA!!! Sorry these oldsters are a well-intentioned but stooooopid MENACE. I don't care about my garden so much, but I care about my car and my wiring and my garbage and my attic and my garage and myself not getting bitten and . . .

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 25, 2013 03:50 AM (2up3Q)

129 We also need conservative activist lawyers to engage in lawfare to the point of barritry... Anyway I'm saddling up..... The house passes this the conservatives need to punish the GOP IMHO like the "moderate" wing did in gifting us with 2006 and 2008....

Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 03:51 AM (NFAtT)

130 Put in a top level kicker that links legalization to the black unemployment rate, send it back to Senate. Just to watch it die.

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 07:41 AM (CMlD4)

The Senate would strike that part in a late night vote unreported by the MFM.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:51 AM (lZvxr)

131 WW2 Tweets from 1941 ‏@RealTimeWWII 18m Germans in Lithuania find dead Jews hung from trees; 1 local explains: "Hitler hates the Jews anyway- so we killed them & took their stuff."

Posted by: toby928© presents at June 25, 2013 03:51 AM (QupBk)

132 How about this for a non-profit? "Progressive Conservatives for Free-market Justice"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:52 AM (+98Gb)

133 130 WW2 Tweets from 1941 ‏@RealTimeWWII 18m Germans in Lithuania find dead Jews hung from trees; 1 local explains: "Hitler hates the Jews anyway- so we killed them & took their stuff." Posted by: toby928Â© presents at June 25, 2013 07:51 AM (QupBk) Considering I had relatives who suffered that fate in that country, I'm not exactly thrilled with the Twitter thing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:53 AM (+98Gb)

134 BlackOrchid - Ive got coyote, deer, beaver ... inside the Beltway. His little pile of feed inst the culprit. But it does make a nice bait site if you have a decent air gun or some subsonic .22lr laying around.

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 03:54 AM (CMlD4)

135

Jr. and Willie took care of Custer. The smartass.

So the IRS cleared itself after investigating itself. wow. They took a page from Holders playbook.

Our government sucks, they really do. I love my country but the people running it are scrunts.

Posted by: Case at June 25, 2013 03:54 AM (tjj0w)

136

When we were a real country. http://stg.do/ZRVc

Posted by: Ammo Dump at June 25, 2013 03:55 AM (GgPam)

137 133 Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 07:54 AM (CMlD4) Beltway Beaver; is that like Monica Lewinsky?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 03:55 AM (+98Gb)

138

So we should all register Democrat, click on Daily Kos and Dem Underground, and start 501-c3's with the word "Progressive" in it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 07:45 AM (+98Gb)

Pretty much worked for one of the Franklin Center's affiliates.

Posted by: steveegg at June 25, 2013 03:55 AM (o44nj)

139 Cream or Sugar? "Ms. GuzmanÂ’s transgression was in violation of the NYPD police forceÂ’s 'English-only' workplace rule." The policy is legitimate. Communication from the switchboard requires English. (Given the socialists' emphasis on the collective, you'd think the assimilation into English would have their undivided support. Rather, "the collective" is merely a "nice" reference to herding cattle, sheep and swine into corrals for sheering and slaughter.) What caught my eye in the Drudge linked NYPD article was the police spokesman's explanation, a proponent of the "One Voice" meme propagandized by the initiation of Obama's administration. "We must speak in One Voice." The rest? Words. Just words. Distinction: language v. voice.

Posted by: panzernashorn at June 25, 2013 03:56 AM (MhA4j)

140 Please do not even talk about bringing guns to an immigration rally. That is just what Obama and the Dems want-any excuse to crack down further on conservatives. If Schumer wants to cal for riots-then let him. It's on him and no doubt some people would be silly enough on their side to show up waving Mexican flags which wouldn't make for good optics.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 03:56 AM (KkzyL)

141 76% is a misrepresentation I am sure because a bunch of these folk are living welfare check to welfare check, or some other sort of public assistance.

Posted by: sTevo at June 25, 2013 03:57 AM (2F32t)

142 I disagree with you guys on that feeder thing. Mainly because I live in a boro/town - pretty busy - and have tons of retired neighbors like this who put out food - and this was just food, out, not a normal bird feeder !!!!

Not so says the news article. It described it as a "wire wreath style feeder". That doesn't attract anything but birds.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 03:57 AM (lZvxr)

143 Have there been any Rove sightings after the shamnesty vote or has he been hospitalized after spooging so much his balls turned inside out?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 03:57 AM (9Mux3)

144 The Senate would strike that part in a late night vote unreported by the MFM.
Posted by: Vic

Then it dies. The key is Boehner not endorsing a conference. Markup and pass a House bill - debate the ever loving shit out of it. Screw the President's and Reid's artificial timelines - punish them for every bullshit kickback. Then - no conference - you want it Chucky- eat it.

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 03:58 AM (CMlD4)

145 I think that Walker could do it. Aside from fighting the Democrat money machine (Soros and the US Treasury) we have to fight the Republican money machine; the corporatists who will benefit from cheap labor depressing the wage scale.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 07:41 AM (+98Gb)

Walker is probably one of the corporatists. He's pro-amnesty.

Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at June 25, 2013 03:58 AM (g3soT)

146 Well, I am being serious. I don't have the chops to get half a million behind me. YET! Yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 03:59 AM (KvM9d)

147 >>>116 >>>Put in a top level kicker that links legalization to the black unemployment rate, send it back to Senate. Just to watch it die. The democrat party still hates blacks?!? Who knew?

Posted by: Anthony L. at June 25, 2013 03:59 AM (bl6Iq)

148 Reposting a Twitter comment from the odious David Plouffe. I put this at the end of the ONT but thought people might have missed it:

"Scandals" falling apart. Immigration moving apace. Big leadership moment on climate tomorrow. POTUS steady throughout. DC CW off again.

This was tweeted yesterday. Note how he makes a big deal about Obama being steady. I think the opposite is true, unless they have decided to heavily medicate him. It might be a good idea to see how he seems today.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 04:00 AM (GoIUi)

149 143 Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 07:58 AM (CMlD4) I think you are assuming John Boehner is going to actually grow a notochord with a brain and conscience attached. They'll pass a fig leaf bill then when it goes to conference for reconciliation, anything Schumer hates will be stripped out and, voila! Doom.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:01 AM (+98Gb)

150 it's special election day here on MA (last Saturday my city voted over 80% for a casino) prediction for today's election: Markey: 58% Gomez: 41%

Posted by: soothsayer, malicious communicator at June 25, 2013 04:01 AM (LVtr+)

151 Walker is probably one of the corporatists. He's pro-amnesty.

Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at June 25, 2013 07:58 AM (g3soT)

That's not a deal breaker for me considering how he's on the right side of a lot of other things. The entire picture for me is certainly a lot fucking better than what I looked at in 2008 and 2012.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 04:01 AM (9Mux3)

152 145 Well, I am being serious. I don't have the chops to get half a million behind me. YET! Yet. Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 07:59 AM (KvM9d) I'll be ruler and you can be my co-ruler! We'll run amok. If that's too strenuous we can walk amok!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:02 AM (+98Gb)

153 149 it's special election day here on MA (last Saturday my city voted over 80% for a casino) prediction for today's election: Markey: 58% Gomez: 41% Posted by: soothsayer, malicious communicator at June 25, 2013 08:01 AM (LVtr+) Does it really matter?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:02 AM (+98Gb)

154 we (and every other state) need a casino like we need a hole in the head

Posted by: soothsayer, malicious communicator at June 25, 2013 04:03 AM (LPRBM)

155 Distinction: language v. voice.-- things Choamsky said

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 04:04 AM (CMlD4)

156 147 Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 08:00 AM (GoIUi) SCOAMF is in Africa on our 100 million dollars. He is not very well liked there so hopefully he gets booed loudly somewhere.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:04 AM (+98Gb)

157 Ugggh So I changed out the tires from the lincoln ls to the new fusion Got a low air pressure light Apparently there is a device inside the tire which by law has to be there Now I have to go to ford to have them switched Shit

Posted by: Navycopjoe at June 25, 2013 04:05 AM (BKR67)

158 #155 He's going to give the climate change speech from Africa?

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 04:05 AM (GoIUi)

159 I think it's amusing how he doesn't want to visit Kenya.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 04:05 AM (KkzyL)

160

How about this for a non-profit?

"Progressive Conservatives for Free-market Justice for Trayvon!"

That should seal the deal.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at June 25, 2013 04:06 AM (BrQrN)

161 #158 And the last stop on his trip is Dar Es Salaam, which means The Abode or House of Peace in Arabic.

Rather ironic, that.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 04:07 AM (GoIUi)

162 157 #155 He's going to give the climate change speech from Africa? Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 08:05 AM (GoIUi) Unless he flew back already? I'm confused. I thought he was in the Dark continent? In any case, he will announce sidestepping Congress (as if he needs to) and ordering the EPA to destroy our energy supply and power generation industries. Resist. If owned a coal powered plant I would tell him to fuck off; I'm ignoring the EPA regulations. Molon labe.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:08 AM (+98Gb)

163 I admire Walker for the stands he has taken, but he is not Presidential material. Bottom line is, he's not a very likable candidate. And Wisconsin has not done that well economically under him.. they are near the bottom nationally.. lower than my commie-run state of Illinois, if you can believe it.

Let's face it, a winning GOP presidential candidate doesn't exist yet... maybe Cruz.. we'll have to wait and see.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2013 04:08 AM (UTq/I)

164 EO transparent crackdown on whistle blowers "The order applies to ALL government agencies regardless of security status." -- Vic You saw the timely editorial by Mark Steyn regarding the hordes of governmental and contracted non-governmental employees given security status clearance regardless of "secure" personnel background checks. To date, the gubmint's CYA "national security" top secret classification has been applied across the board to inconsequential data that would, unless reclassified, require too many to count IT related personnel burying shit. Currently, more hordes of IT contract labor are required to manage the data from ALL internet and telephone communications. In short, "Brazil!" FUBAR. Dept. of Information http://tinyurl.com/pknbeob

Posted by: panzernashorn at June 25, 2013 04:10 AM (MhA4j)

165 #161 J.J.. Sefton, I looked it up. He doesn't leave for Africa until Wednesday. So he's going to throw the climate bomb and then beat feet out of town.

I trust some British reporters will be following the trip and can give us the real scoop. I used to have some African papers bookmarked. I am going to see if I can find them so I can follow the trip from their point of view.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 04:10 AM (GoIUi)

166 "Progressive Organization for Organizing Unorganized Immigrants"

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at June 25, 2013 04:10 AM (VWfCN)

167 And the last stop on his trip is Dar Es Salaam, which means The Abode or House of Peace in Arabic.

Rather ironic, that.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 08:07 AM (GoIUi)

There's very little regarding Islam that isn't rife with irony. Or hypocrisy.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 04:11 AM (9Mux3)

168 162 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2013 08:08 AM (UTq/I) Walker. Hmmm. Cruz. Love him. Rand. Might be the contender. At least against Krispy Kreme and Jebba the Hump.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:11 AM (+98Gb)

169 If we elect Cruz President, cna he appoint himself to the SCOTUS late in his second term?

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 04:11 AM (CMlD4)

170 98 Does Walker really have what it takes?

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 25, 2013 07:29 AM (X4HxX)

I like Scott Walker and I think he is definitely one of the GOP leaders who probably "really has what it takes." I just worry about the levels of union money in this country that will be used to attack him if he runs for President? It could be even more substantial than we've seen used against any previous GOP presidential candidate. Or the attacks on him not having a college degree? Or the attacks, like occurred during the recall election last year, related to the supposedly illegitimate child he was accused of having during his college years? Plus, whatever happened to those accusations of ethics violations by him during his time as governor? I forgot what the resolution was regarding those.

I know, there is no perfect GOP candidate and the Left will find a way to attack anyone who is the GOP candidate, but he really will be ripe for the standard attacks from the Left about Republicans being anti-working person (i.e., unions), anti-education, and a fraud when it comes to family values and ethics. Walker's no "shrinking violet" and has some exemplary leadership abilities so perhaps he could weather the attacks from the Left, but it certainly won't be easy. Then again, it won't be easy for any GOP candidate in 2016.

Posted by: Slappy at June 25, 2013 04:11 AM (LTbLf)

171 I am off to do my morning errands.

Have a great day, everyone! I will catch up with you later.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 25, 2013 04:12 AM (GoIUi)

172 I'll be ruler and you can be my co-ruler! We'll run amok. If that's too strenuous we can walk amok! Sven as co-ruler. I want Sgt. at Arms. Discipline bitchez!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 04:13 AM (KvM9d)

173 "Progressive Organization for Documenting Undocumented People in the Shadows"

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at June 25, 2013 04:13 AM (BrQrN)

174 I'll be ruler and you can be my co-ruler! We'll run amok. If that's too strenuous we can walk amok!

Sven as co-ruler. I want Sgt. at Arms.
Discipline bitchez! Posted by: rickb223

You know there can be only one.

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 04:14 AM (CMlD4)

175 "GAIA" Great American Independence Advocates

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:14 AM (+98Gb)

176 Association of Organized Organizations And Such As

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at June 25, 2013 04:14 AM (VWfCN)

177 Free cars and segways in the immigration bill. Awesome!

Posted by: RWC at June 25, 2013 04:14 AM (8FeS+)

178 I'll be ruler and you can be my co-ruler! We'll run amok.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 08:02 AM (+98Gb)

I ran a mok but business was slow.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at June 25, 2013 04:14 AM (GgPam)

179 173 Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 08:14 AM (CMlD4) Disappointed no one got my Woody Allen "Casino Royale" reference. :-(

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:15 AM (+98Gb)

180 162 I admire Walker for the stands he has taken, but he is not Presidential material. Bottom line is, he's not a very likable candidate. And Wisconsin has not done that well economically under him.. they are near the bottom nationally.. lower than my commie-run state of Illinois, if you can believe it.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2013 08:08 AM (UTq/I)

I think that concern is overrated. Perry didn't exactly benefit from a strong state economy when he ran in 2012. Or how about Clinton in '92? Arkansas was a disaster in pretty much every economic metric under him as governor but somehow Clinton was able to win the election on the economy.

Posted by: Slappy at June 25, 2013 04:15 AM (LTbLf)

181 I forgot what the resolution was regarding those.

The "accusations" were just that. Baseless accusations. The investigations into wrongdoing by some of the people in his office during his time as Milwaukee County executive was actually *initiated* by Walker when he found out what was going on. The liberals here tried like hell to get something...anything...to stick to Walker himself and could not do it.

Posted by: GMan at June 25, 2013 04:15 AM (sxq57)

182 National Institute Championing Everything Associated Single Servers

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at June 25, 2013 04:16 AM (VWfCN)

183 Hi, folks- For people here that pray, I ask for some for for this morning. I have to go into a meeting that I really don't want to be at. that I will need strength to get through and it's rather a long trip so if you could pray for that too I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 04:16 AM (KkzyL)

184 So with Amnesty, do I have to change my emoticon from: :-) to :- ∫ )

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:16 AM (+98Gb)

185 ...ponder why our gagglefuck of GOP senators can't get it through their fucking heads making Schumer and Choom happy ain't their goddamned job

Posted by: sven10077 at June 25, 2013 07:17 AM

Well put. I'm stealing that one.

Thanks for the headlines Vic.

Posted by: gonzalez in NC at June 25, 2013 04:16 AM (MRYTR)

186 they are near the bottom nationally.. lower than my commie-run state of Illinois, if you can believe it.

I realize I'm responding to a troll, but...are you nuts? Yeah, there's a reason that your idiot state is a member of the legion of the boned, and WI isn't.

Posted by: GMan at June 25, 2013 04:16 AM (sxq57)

187 Arkansas was a disaster in pretty much every economic metric under him as governor but somehow Clinton was able to win the election on the economy.

Posted by: Slappy at June 25, 2013 08:15 AM (LTbLf)

Running against an economic Svengali like Poppy "Read my lips" Bush can overrule any concerns.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 04:17 AM (9Mux3)

188 Also, I forgot yesterday to thank MPPP for the drinks and BCochran and Sean Bannion for organizing the meetup. Very fun.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 25, 2013 06:50 AM (jZUEZ)

You're welcome, Gabe. Still keeping radio silence, else I'll go off into banning territory like Judge Roy near the end of the ONT.

Here's a quick quip - silent actress Kathryn Perry, whom I mentioned to you as gossiping about Billie Burke's lesbian amours, was also catty about fellow actress Viola Dana, saying that "she laid everything in Hollywood except the linoleum."

And here's Dana so you can judge for yourselves:

http://tinyurl.com/pvw2je5

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2013 04:17 AM (zF6Iw)

189 OCCUPY Organized Conservative Christians to Upset Progressive Yahoos.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:17 AM (+98Gb)

190 The Founders got that one wrong, seriously wrong.

Posted by: Dale Gribble at June 25, 2013 06:58 AM (+kznc)

The Founders missed a key criterion for public service because not many people in the 1770's doddered into their nineties with an attendant and a drool cup and would have a party that maintained that they were intellectually functional. They also thought that elected officials might have at least a small element of pride and be members of a community that would not hesitate to call them out in public.

The most critical Amendment that they missed was to establish term limits for every freaking federal public office for position of power, appointed or elected.

Also a la Gabe above, belated thanks to MPPP for the drink at the meetup, and thanks to Sean and Mrs B for the hard work required to set it up. Good time, good times!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 25, 2013 04:18 AM (Cnqmv)

191 SOLII - Sons of Liberty II

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 04:18 AM (CMlD4)

192 187 And here's Dana so you can judge for yourselves: http://tinyurl.com/pvw2je5 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2013 08:17 AM (zF6Iw) She's got Karl Malden's nose! Hey MPPPP!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:18 AM (+98Gb)

193 I just worry about the levels of union money in this country that will be used to attack him if he runs for President? It could be even more substantial than we've seen used against any previous GOP presidential candidate.

The unions have been going all out to attack Republicans and support Democrats for the last 50 to 75 years. The only reason they cut back slightly in the last election is because they are growing broke.

They can't attack Republicans any harder than they have been. One thing we do need to do is quit worrying about what pressure groups will attack out candidates. That is what gets the lackluster milquetoast candidates nominated and the Democrats winning.

We need a conservative firebrand. Unfortunately I don't think that Walker is that anyway. We need a Gowdy clone.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 04:19 AM (lZvxr)

194 Distinction: language v. voice.-- things Choamsky said Posted by: Jean I couldn't say. Though I've read pro/con and wiki Chomsky references, I don't recall reading Chomsky. But given the redefinition of words into nonsense, playing the opposite game, language has been dissolving into mere sounds, leaving the voice babbling. Grunt. If that was his observation as well, there'd be a common perspective.

Posted by: panzernashorn at June 25, 2013 04:19 AM (MhA4j)

195 Should have read:

The most critical Amendment that the Founders missed was to establish term limits for every freaking federal public office or position of power, appointed, elected, or employed (bureaucrat)!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 25, 2013 04:20 AM (Cnqmv)

196 Also a la Gabe above, belated thanks to MPPP for the drink at the meetup, and thanks to Sean and Mrs B for the hard work required to set it up. Good time, good times! Posted by: Hrothgar at June 25, 2013 08:18 AM (Cnqmv)\ Yes, thank you for the round!!! Helped make the evening even more memorable.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 25, 2013 04:21 AM (X4HxX)

197 190 SOLII - Sons of Liberty II Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 08:18 AM (CMlD4) SOLYNDRA Sons of Libertarian Youth Negating Democratic Repulsive Assholes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:21 AM (+98Gb)

198 >>Or how about Clinton in '92? Arkansas was a disaster in pretty much every economic metric under him as governor but somehow Clinton was able to win the election on the economy. Ross Perot. Take him out of the equation and no Billy Jeff.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2013 04:22 AM (g1DWB)

199 180 I forgot what the resolution was regarding those.

The "accusations" were just that. Baseless accusations. The investigations into wrongdoing by some of the people in his office during his time as Milwaukee County executive was actually *initiated* by Walker when he found out what was going on. The liberals here tried like hell to get something...anything...to stick to Walker himself and could not do it.

Posted by: GMan at June 25, 2013 08:15 AM (sxq57)

Yeah, I knew they went nowhere and I remember his response and the response of his supporters in Wisconsin but I didn't know if investigations of the alleged "ethics violations" were still ongoing.

Unless something comes out about Walker we've never heard, I would have no problem voting for him as POTUS but I do think that it would be an uphill battle. Although it was due to the feckless Romney/Ryan campaign, I would certainly have a little more faith if he had helped deliver Wisconsin for them in 2012. I know, Ryan, who is from Wisconsin, deserves blame for that, too.

Posted by: Slappy at June 25, 2013 04:22 AM (LTbLf)

200 The most critical Amendment that the Founders missed was to establish term limits for every freaking federal public office or position of power, appointed, elected, or employed (bureaucrat)! Posted by: Hrothgar at June 25, 2013 08:20 AM (Cnqmv) I don't know how helpful that would be, honestly. The Karl Roves would still be lerking around and possibly even more powerful.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 25, 2013 04:22 AM (X4HxX)

201 The most critical Amendment that the Founders missed was to establish term
limits for every freaking federal public office or position of power,
appointed, elected, or employed (bureaucrat)!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 25, 2013 08:20 AM (Cnqmv)

I don't think the founders imagined that the current slough of grifters who use elected office as a career wouldn't be given the bum's rush by an educated electorate. They were also caught up in the high regard for freedom at the time which is now just a vague memory.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 04:23 AM (9Mux3)

202 I didn't know if investigations of the alleged "ethics violations" were still ongoing.

They are not.

Posted by: GMan at June 25, 2013 04:24 AM (sxq57)

203 You know there can be only one. Just call me William Clarke Quantrill.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 04:24 AM (KvM9d)

204 Regarding the ObamaCars item in the sidebar, it's not to give the "youths" cars - it's to funnel money to projects such as the Californica mid-speed train between Nowhereville and Empty Acres, and Tom "Milk Carton" Barrett's mini-choo-choo that connects the essentially-unused train/bus depot and the lower east side via "Lawyers' Row" and no other downtown attraction.

Posted by: steveegg at June 25, 2013 04:24 AM (o44nj)

205 Have there been any Rove sightings after the shamnesty vote or has he been hospitalized after spooging so much his balls turned inside out? Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 07:57 AM (9Mux3) Prolapse testicals? Hmm. Good mornin rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 25, 2013 04:24 AM (XIxXP)

206 Called both my senators yesterday. Both staffers said neither had made up their mind on the vote. At 3PM.
Burr's staff seemed to not really care. I asked how the calls were leaning. They didn't want to share that info. ????
Lady at Hagan's office was really polite and professional. She said phone calls were overwhelmingly opposed. Regular mail was overwhelmingly in support.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at June 25, 2013 04:24 AM (MRYTR)

207

He's taking five C-5's and a 747 on vacation, yet he's lecturing me on Carbon footprint? And he's going to bypass the Congress?

I sure am glad that we have a man of iron - John Boehner - to stop him. I have complete faith in Baby Wetsalot...

Posted by: RobM1981 at June 25, 2013 04:24 AM (V1z4W)

208 197 Ross Perot. Take him out of the equation and no Billy Jeff. Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2013 08:22 AM (g1DWB) A second term of Bush 1. I wonder what that would have looked like. The government would have grown and we would not have regained the House. Newt was a short-lived victory, but he was great for a few years.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:26 AM (+98Gb)

209 186

Running against an economic Svengali like Poppy "Read my lips" Bush can overrule any concerns.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 08:17 AM (9Mux3)

Plus, you had all the womanizing crap, too, which should've derailed him. The Gennifer Flowers situation would have been enough to destroy any previous presidential candidate but the Baby Boomers who supported him in droves wanted someone from their generation as President so they ignored it (and in some instances liked the fact that he was a scumbag who banged anything as governor). And the idiots in Generation X liked a guy who answered questions about the type of underwear he wore. That election was the beginning of the country taking the idiotic path it has for the past 20 years.

Posted by: Slappy at June 25, 2013 04:26 AM (LTbLf)

210 Random unrelated factoid:

The Department of Commerce Office of Inspector General just purchased 9,000 hollowpoint rounds.

Dude... we're Commerce...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 25, 2013 04:27 AM (fwARV)

211 209 Random unrelated factoid: The Department of Commerce Office of Inspector General just purchased 9,000 hollowpoint rounds. Dude... we're Commerce... Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 25, 2013 08:27 AM (fwARV) Only 9,000? Hmmm....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:27 AM (+98Gb)

212

Plus, whatever happened to those accusations of ethics violations by him during his time as governor? I forgot what the resolution was regarding those.

The John Doe was quietly closed when the 2-year-long witchhunt couldn't get more on the political side than an aide who did political work for a candidate for lieutenant governor wihle working in then-Milwaukee County Executive Walker's office and a donor who bundled a few thousand more than he was allowed to who was reported to the DA by Walker's campaign.

Posted by: steveegg at June 25, 2013 04:28 AM (o44nj)

213 197

Ross Perot. Take him out of the equation and no Billy Jeff.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2013 08:22 AM (g1DWB)

That certainly didn't help, as it took some of the focus off of Clinton and resulted in Bush being attacked by two other candidates all the time, neither of whom ever really attacked each other. It would have been difficult for a good candidate with a strong record -- which certainly didn't describe George H.W. Bush -- to win in that situation.

Posted by: Slappy at June 25, 2013 04:29 AM (LTbLf)

214 As expected, Russia tells Muley to pack sand.

http://tinyurl.com/puspf5w

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 04:29 AM (lZvxr)

215 Meanwhile, the Brits having tried a lax immigration policy and found it wanting:

India warns over UK plan to make visitors pay Â£3,000 bond

The British government says the problem of so-called "overstayers" is one of the biggest challenges facing the immigration system and they want to target visitors from certain countries who present the greatest risk.

Although it has yet to be confirmed, it has been reported that visitors from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Ghana and Nigeria will be required to deposit Â£3,000 ($4,600) for a six-month visa, to be forfeited if they don't leave when they should.

via the frickin BBC, cna you imagine the NPR running this story

http://tinyurl.com/pgyt6ul

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 04:30 AM (CMlD4)

216 >>A second term of Bush 1. I wonder what that would have looked like. The government would have grown and we would not have regained the House. Newt was a short-lived victory, but he was great for a few years. We most likely wouldn't have had a 9/11 or the financial crisis of 2008 either. Bush I had issues as they all do but he was a strong supporter of intelligence gathering and the military unlike Clinton who gutted both to balance his budgets and not have to be involved with the messy business of dealing with nasty people, aka spies. And no CRA with idiots like Deval Patrick and Jamie Gorelick leading the charge. Someday historians will really take a hard unbiased look at Clinton's actual record instead of tongue bathing him and his fat assed wife and it won't be pretty.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2013 04:30 AM (g1DWB)

217 Posted by: steveegg at June 25, 2013 08:28 AM (o44nj)

Any guesses as to who the dems are going to try to run against Walker next gov. race? I haven't heard of anyone coming forward yet...

Posted by: GMan at June 25, 2013 04:31 AM (sxq57)

218 Morning all. 3 more days and I am out of my Office for a few glorious weeks in SC. I can't wait to flee the North East and all the Liberals

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 04:32 AM (9Bj8R)

219 We most likely wouldn't have had a 9/11 or the financial crisis of 2008 either. No Waco, no Ruby Ridge, no OKC bombing, and.... ....no Hillary.

Posted by: zsasz at June 25, 2013 04:32 AM (MMC8r)

220

Does it really matter?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 08:02 AM (+98Gb)

No, it doesn't. Gomez is a turncoat POS who was a bundler for the dog-eating cokehead, begged Deval "Mini-Me" Patrick for a job and now swears he's a "new kind" of Republican, which is Dem-speak for "Obama's chew toy." There is no way that having that asshole in the Senate will be any different than having Markey stink up the joint. Massachusetts is an asshole state filled with Obama-fellating clowns who deserve the living-from-paycheck-to-paychek lifestyle. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2013 04:32 AM (zF6Iw)

221 And a number of people who save for years and live fairly modestly but when they get downsized, and only could get a job in which they were underemployed because they were over 55 they went through their savings after the 4th year. I have a friend who says you should save for 3 years of being unemployed and I know a number of people in that position so I don't judge them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 04:33 AM (KkzyL)

222 Someday historians will really take a hard unbiased look at Clinton's actual record instead of tongue bathing him and his fat assed wife and it won't be pretty.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2013 08:30 AM (g1DWB)

I would not hold my breath waiting for that. They are still tongue bathing FDR who was undoubtedly the worst President in History.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 04:33 AM (lZvxr)

223 Morning all. 3 more days and I am out of my Office for a few glorious weeks in SC. I can't wait to flee the North East and all the Liberals

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 08:32 AM (9Bj8R)

I presume you will be somewhere down around Charleston?

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 04:34 AM (lZvxr)

224 MOSCOW (AP) Â— Russia's foreign minister bluntly rejected U.S. demands to extradite National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden, saying Tuesday that Snowden hasn't crossed the Russian border.

Hey Barry, Russia says fuck you very much. Time to hit the ~~reset~~ overpriced button again

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2013 04:34 AM (1Jaio)

225 Custer was much more a Delta guy, more like Otter then Blutarski but still.

Posted by: Almirnte Marcus at June 25, 2013 04:35 AM (Jsiw/)

226 Watching the Military Channel with Messican Top 40 blaring through the chimney. The roofers are replacing my storm-damaged roof. Oh, well. It's just for today.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2013 04:35 AM (0125T)

227 So, yes, some people don't live below their means and are wasteful but I don't think allthe folks living paycheck to paycheck are necessarily bad people. I also know people who have had a major illness take away money making ability and it makes it hard. You hear these kinds of stories when you work at a food pantry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 04:36 AM (KkzyL)

228 nevergiveup that is wonderful! i hope you have a great time!

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at June 25, 2013 04:36 AM (8JJ6O)

229 That election was the beginning of the country taking the idiotic path it has for the past 20 years.

Posted by: Slappy at June 25, 2013 08:26 AM (LTbLf)

This. Slick was pure trash who shit all over security concerns and we're still living with the fallout from it. Without Slick there's no JEF as people became comfortable with having human garbage representing the country.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 04:36 AM (9Mux3)

230 Obamacars? Why not? In CA they are always trying to give illegals driver's licenses and also subsidized car insurance.

Posted by: Here Come Da' Judge at June 25, 2013 04:37 AM (RZwdH)

231 Russia's foreign minister bluntly rejected U.S. demands to extradite National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden, saying Tuesday that Snowden hasn't crossed the Russian border. If I read that one too much, my head will explode.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 25, 2013 04:37 AM (659DL)

232 That election was the beginning of the country taking the idiotic path it has for the past 20 years.

Posted by: Slappy at June 25, 2013 08:26 AM (LTbLf)

This. Slick was pure trash who shit all over security concerns and we're still living with the fallout from it. Without Slick there's no JEF as people became comfortable with having human garbage representing the country.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 08:36 AM (9Mux3)

I second and third that.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2013 04:37 AM (1Jaio)

233 Clinton lowered the bar. Remember "Character is not an issue?"

Posted by: zsasz at June 25, 2013 04:39 AM (MMC8r)

234 If I read that one too much, my head will explode. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 25, 2013 08:37 AM (659DL) So, are we even sure Snowden was in Hong Kong this whole time? What if he's still in the US or something crazy? This is a Techie Catch Me If You Can

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 25, 2013 04:39 AM (X4HxX)

235 Gomez is a turncoat POS who was a bundler for the dog-eating cokehead, begged Deval "Mini-Me" Patrick for a job and now swears he's a "new kind" of Republican, which is Dem-speak for "Obama's chew toy." There is no way that having that asshole in the Senate will be any different than having Markey stink up the joint. Massachusetts is an asshole state filled with Obama-fellating clowns who deserve the living-from-paycheck-to-paychek lifestyle. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2013 08:32 AM (zF6Iw)

When I saw Gomez on FNS every Repuke red flag got triggered. I went from being reflexively for anybody against Anti Biz Markey to wanting to throw both of 'em in a wood chipper.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 04:39 AM (9Mux3)

236 NVG I love charleston, bluffton, savannah area! Enjoy!

Posted by: Thunderb at June 25, 2013 04:39 AM (nH8jP)

237 221 And a number of people who save for years and live fairly modestly but when they get downsized, and only could get a job in which they were underemployed because they were over 55 they went through their savings after the 4th year. I have a friend who says you should save for 3 years of being unemployed and I know a number of people in that position so I don't judge them. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 08:33 AM (KkzyL) Yep. Plus, the cost of everything has skyrocketed. You never hear about that in obama america. I attribute it to the cost of fuel which drives up the prices on everything. Also, local governments have increased the prices for licenses, penalties, everything to recoup what they aren't making.

Posted by: Here Come Da' Judge at June 25, 2013 04:40 AM (RZwdH)

238 I presume you will be somewhere down around Charleston? Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 08:34 AM (lZvxr) Not far Parris Island. I intend to visit Charleston and eat my way thru the city

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 04:41 AM (9Bj8R)

239 I presume you will be somewhere down around Charleston? Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 08:34 AM (lZvxr) Not far Parris Island. I intend to visit Charleston and eat my way thru the city Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 08:41 AM (9Bj8R) Hey Vic, any suggestions where to stay, if I stay overnight?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 04:41 AM (9Bj8R)

240

Any guesses as to who the dems are going to try to run against Walker next gov. race? I haven't heard of anyone coming forward yet...

Posted by: GMan at June 25, 2013 08:31 AM (sxq57)

An expendible pawn. Russ el-Feingold took himself out of the running by taking an ambassador-level position in Africa created for him, and telegenic Congressman Ron Kind pretty much made up his mind to stay in Congress.

I'm praying it's Chris "Sticky Fingers" Larson so he couldn't continue to be my state senator in the most-gerrymandered district in the state (connects Oak Creek to Milwaukee's East Side and the UWM campus via the Jones Island Wastewater Management Plant).

Posted by: steveegg at June 25, 2013 04:42 AM (o44nj)

241 Russia's foreign minister said Tuesday that American demands for the extradition of NSA leaker Edward Snowden were "ungrounded and unacceptable," ratcheting up the stand-off between the two countries over the globetrotting fugitive. Sergey Lavrov also said that the Russian government had played no role in Snowden's effort to evade prosecution in the United States, and added that Snowden had not crossed into Russian territory. Russia has such a quant way of saying fuck you to obama

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 04:43 AM (9Bj8R)

242 NGU! Have a great time. Truly a beautiful area of the country. Hope to move there one day in the not too distant future.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:44 AM (+98Gb)

243 Taliban say they attacked Afghan presidential palace Series of explosions rocks secure area of Afghan capital early Tuesday in attack outside presidential palace Reuters Published: 06.25.13, 07:31 / Israel News The Taliban claimed responsibility on Tuesday for an early morning attack on the presidential palace and nearby government and other buildings as fighting raged in the area. "Today at 6:30 am a number of martyrs attacked the presidential palace, Defense Ministry and the Ariana Hotel," Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said in a text message. Related stories: Taliban say they attacked Afghan presidential palace US, Taliban to start talks in Qatar office CIA paid millions to Afghan president's office Gunmen attacked the Afghan presidential palace early on Tuesday, with explosions and gunfire shaking the city center. hey obama, how are them peace talks going?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 04:44 AM (9Bj8R)

244 Someday historians will really take a hard unbiased look at Clinton's actual record instead of tongue bathing him and his fat assed wife and it won't be pretty.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2013 08:30 AM (g1DWB)

Someday could take a long-ass time to get here

Posted by: Historians who love to metaphorically gobble FDR's cock and balls at June 25, 2013 04:45 AM (Q9qpj)

245 Have a great time. Truly a beautiful area of the country. Hope to move there one day in the not too distant future. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 08:44 AM (+98Gb) It is. I love Beaufort

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 04:45 AM (9Bj8R)

246 Yes, it's very expensive on all kinds of items and I hear heartbreaking stories from people who come to the food pantry and no, not all are bs'ing. It takes them a long time sometimes to show up and to say anything. Going from a job were you support your family to a place where you cannot hits people pride heavily.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2013 04:45 AM (KkzyL)

247 Lavrov is like General Gogol of the Bond films, 'laughing at the superior intellect' of the likes of John Kerry, I know I crossed genres/

Posted by: Almirnte Marcus at June 25, 2013 04:45 AM (Jsiw/)

248 Nevergiveup: We stayed at Planter's Inn in Charleston. A bit pricey but it was great. And you must have the coconut cake at Peninsula Grill.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:45 AM (+98Gb)

249 So, are we even sure Snowden was in Hong Kong this whole time? What if he's still in the US or something crazy? This is a Techie Catch Me If You Can Techie Waldo.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 04:45 AM (KvM9d)

250 DeMint was right. Congress is hopeless. LIB

Posted by: Mil-Dot at June 25, 2013 04:46 AM (Cs2tJ)

251

MOSCOW (AP) Â— Russia's foreign minister bluntly rejected U.S. demands to extradite National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden, saying Tuesday that Snowden hasn't crossed the Russian border.

Hey Barry, Russia says fuck you very much. Time to hit the ~~reset~~ overpriced button again

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2013 08:34 AM (1Jaio)

Then I suppose ol' Pootie Poot wouldn't mind a snatch/assassination team going onto the stateless ground to grab/kill Snowden. Oh wait, Putin thinks liquidating Snowden is HIS job.

Posted by: steveegg at June 25, 2013 04:46 AM (o44nj)

252 Seems like Putin ate Barky's lunch, stole his lunch money, and rimmed his sippy cup.

Oh what a mighty, respected and fearless leader our Jugears McFuckstick is.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 25, 2013 04:46 AM (ct8kX)

253 Yep. Plus, the cost of everything has skyrocketed. You never hear about that in obama america. I attribute it to the cost of fuel which drives up the prices on everything. Also, local governments have increased the prices for licenses, penalties, everything to recoup what they aren't making.

Posted by: Here Come Da' Judge at June 25, 2013 08:40 AM (RZwdH)

Things are far worse economically than the MFM is letting on. The job market is grim and not getting better.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2013 04:46 AM (1Jaio)

254 " The only reason they [unions v. GOP] cut back slightly in the last election is because they are growing broke. " And the realization from the rank and file that their union leaders have fucked the membership. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that the hordes of the immigrating labor force is arriving to displace the "incumbent" employed union membership. And on that count, the GOP will NEVER get support from the Americans that Country Club assholes keep fucking, "Because I Could." Tit.Tat. Spare the trickle down propaganda, and skip the 1% pays 80% of the nation's tax burden lies. I've argued that labor laws have made unions redundant. But corrupt government forces choose which laws to ignore. And at the other end, officials actually succeed in prosecuting/convicting based on PC policy, laws be damned. Irony, exposed again by socialist policy. Whether liberal-100% taxation Marxist or the "we're better" veiled neoconservative big-gov authoritarian, the more "helpful" means more harm done. I'm not convinced that corrupt unions have done more harm to America than our corrupt Congress, Judicial with Executive Branches, and "shared values" corrupt crony capitalists running both major political parties. All the incumbent "leadership" are bought and paid for by global corporatist interests, which exploit mercilessly. What last irony, if the union membership finally resist their globalist overlords, and prove to be heroes in the end. Remember Lech Wałęsa.

Posted by: panzernashorn at June 25, 2013 04:46 AM (MhA4j)

255 Maryland Tea Party Group Banned From Public Event With Dem Rep. Chris Van Hollen After Dem Officials Accuse Them Of Having Â“Violent TendenciesÂ”Â… Remind me again, how many violent tea party rallies have there been? ???? Sick fucking democrats

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 04:46 AM (9Bj8R)

256 NGU! Oops! We only did day trips to Beaufort. There was a B&B on the main drag near Magnolia Grill, but I would bet they're booked solid.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:46 AM (+98Gb)

257 Also, local governments have increased the prices for licenses, penalties, everything to recoup what they aren't making. Partly my fault. The fuckers are no longer getting cigarette taxes from me. For the last 14 months.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 04:47 AM (KvM9d)

258 Also, local governments have increased the prices for licenses, penalties, everything to recoup what they aren't making.

Posted by: Here Come Da' Judge at June 25, 2013 08:40 AM (RZwdH)

I was out in WV a few weeks back, and I received a citation for having an open beer at a boat ramp (who knew?)

The fine was $20. The total cost was close to $250 once all the other fees were added in.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 25, 2013 04:47 AM (fwARV)

259 Russia has such a quant way of saying fuck you to obama

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 08:43 AM (9Bj8R)

Is it wrong of me to be very very happy when that happens? I hate the IOC with the heat of an exploding supernova but when they turned down the JEF's lame plea for Shitcargo hosting the games (which was all about him) I was ecstatic for the rest of the day.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 04:48 AM (9Mux3)

260 OK, rant off. Now I've got meetings. See you all around. And nevergiveup, when you're in Charleston, you have to have dinner at Magnolia's.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2013 04:48 AM (zF6Iw)

261

I can attest to the living paycheck to paycheck thing. Before I retired from civil service most of the people who worked for me were putting ZERO dollars into their TSP (401K). They were giving up the free match the government will give them if they contribute. I chatted with most of them about it and explained how they were cheating themselves. Most said they simply could not afford to contribute. Granted these were GS 5-6 people who don't make a ton of money, but they were so extended that they couldn't put 5% pre tax into savings.

Posted by: Johnnyreb at June 25, 2013 04:48 AM (6McTJ)

262 259 Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 08:48 AM (9Mux3) The enema of my enema, inshallah.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 04:49 AM (+98Gb)

263 We only did day trips to Beaufort. There was a B&B on the main drag near Magnolia Grill, but I would bet they're booked solid. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 08:46 AM (+98Gb) No I am covered in Beaufort. Parris Island is only 10-15 minutes down the road.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 04:49 AM (9Bj8R)

264 Well done rick223!

Posted by: Thunderb at June 25, 2013 04:49 AM (nH8jP)

265 Can somebody please fix the fucking spaces?

Posted by: steveegg at June 25, 2013 04:50 AM (o44nj)

266 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2013 08:48 AM (zF6Iw)

Hey - I've been rude.

Thanks for the drink at the MoMee!

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 25, 2013 04:51 AM (fwARV)

267 Nude one up!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 25, 2013 04:51 AM (ct8kX)

268 Bamacar, Bamapho, Obamacare, The animating contest of Freedom.

One of these things is not like the others.

Posted by: rouch and lick the hand that feeds you at June 25, 2013 04:51 AM (9auGS)

269 I just don't get it.....what is it about DC that turns people into complete traitors?? I mean is it the amount of time spent there?....is it in the water? exactly what is it? I would have jumped through hoops of fire to have a Rubio/Ryan ticket for the last presidential election. I am such a punk for thinking that would have been awesome.

Posted by: kawfytawk at June 25, 2013 04:53 AM (qdzWt)

270 they were so extended that they couldn't put 5% pre tax into savings.

Posted by: Johnnyreb at June 25, 2013 08:48 AM (6McTJ)

I wasn't able to contribute until about a month ago when I (finally)chisled myself out of the trouble I got myself into as a stupid kid.

PS: Credit cards are the FUCKING DEVIL and you will NEVER rid yourself of their shackly shackles. I really wish I knew that when I was 18.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 25, 2013 04:55 AM (fwARV)

271 Oh what a mighty, respected and fearless leader our Jugears McFuckstick is. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice 'RESET!' overcharged for a dysfunctional translation made in Red China button. Best presidential gift to Russia, evah. /as if Dumbo were the worst saboteur on his USS Lost Cause administration, recall Hillary's record "backing" her '16 potus bid. "What we've got here, is failure to commun'cate." http://tinyurl.com/a6sx7vy

Posted by: panzernashorn at June 25, 2013 04:57 AM (MhA4j)

272 269 money. power. corrupts. absolutely.

Posted by: panzernashorn at June 25, 2013 04:58 AM (MhA4j)

273 255 The "violent tendencies" stem from the hate crime criminal street politics thugs, aka Democrats. They knew their own bloodthirsty constituency would attack the conservatives. "It was for their own good" the conservative voice was gagged, constitutional rights be damned in Maryland.

Posted by: panzernashorn at June 25, 2013 05:02 AM (MhA4j)

274 Fenelon why do you think Jesus told his followers to sell their cloaks and buy swords?

Posted by: DAve at June 25, 2013 05:02 AM (albkL)

275 272 You're right, of course. I know we are to pray for our leaders....and sad to say, I haven't been on top of that lately because I have had such negative feelings towards them.

Posted by: kawfytawk at June 25, 2013 05:04 AM (qdzWt)

276 Hey Vic, any suggestions where to stay, if I stay overnight?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 08:41 AM (9Bj8R)

I stayed here the last time I was there when wifey was in the hospital

http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/chsmc-charleston-marriott/

It is a good location for visiting places in Old Charleston and is a fairly nice place, but a little pricey now that it is under new "management".

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 05:08 AM (lZvxr)

277 Jan Brewer: This Gang of Eight bill is a victory for Arizona

Allahpenis

Posted by: Mil-Dot at June 25, 2013 05:15 AM (Cs2tJ)

278 Is it the Arizona heat that cooks these assholes brains? or what??

Posted by: Mil-Dot at June 25, 2013 05:16 AM (Cs2tJ)

279 277 Jan Brewer: This Gang of Eight bill is a victory for Arizona The NSA must have found something on this woman

Posted by: kawfytawk at June 25, 2013 05:19 AM (qdzWt)

280 76%, you say? Well it would be 99% (see what i did there?) but I have freed the missing 23% to live on government payments! That's why they aren't living paycheck-to-paycheck-- they aren't getting a paycheck!! Hahaha- how to make a Democrat in two easy lessons: 1) make them nemployed, and 2) start them on a federal money I.V.

Posted by: President For Life Obama at June 25, 2013 05:20 AM (+GpbP)

281 What irritates me about farming subsidies is that in my adult life (graduated from HS in 1980), and having lived in 4 different communiities, 4 different churches and 3 states, I've known perhaps ONE farmer that I would consider poor. Their kids drive better vehicles that we ever have.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 25, 2013 05:27 AM (DoZD+)

282 274. Rather, remember Matthew 5 ...And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. From Matthew 26 ..."Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. 275. Be careful what you pray for. The same could apply to whom/what you pray. "Thy will be done" covers the works of Jesus Christ. I can't help asking for the American Spirit of Liberty to ignite again in our hearts and minds. Granted, everyone wants their OWN liberty. Our society shares in common with Jesus' day abusive authoritarians and the promotion of empire. Today's Ivy League elitists emulate the abusive, self-righteous scribes/Pharisee conceit, to create and impose laws on those people most heavily burdened in life, the poor, laws which the lawmakers themselves absolutely ignore except to prosecute upstarts for harboring a flicker of hope. "Because I Could" Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 Â“All this I will give you,Â” he said, Â“if you will bow down and worship me.Â” Matthew 4:8

Posted by: panzernashorn at June 25, 2013 05:31 AM (MhA4j)

283 I used to work with a guy named Gonzales...pale as I am (which is really fucking pale...), figured there was a Spaniard somewhere more than five generations back. Said he'd get all kinds of job interviews, they'd love the phone screen and bring him on-site, and as soon as the HR wench looked at him the interview would be over.

Still loved him some SCOAMF, though.

My sister used to date a guy named Sanchez. Blonde and pale as a Scandinavian. Said his people came straight here from the Balearic Islands, which neither the Romans nor the Arabs ever conquered.

Posted by: joncelli at June 25, 2013 05:35 AM (RD7QR)

284 It's a minor thing, given that Congress is once again ass-raping us all and then having us clean them up orally, but . . .

Bird Feeder Guy sounds like a 77-year-old, disabled, asshole.

"the wire wreath-style feeder filled with peanuts is drawing ducks, deer, geese, squirrels, chipmunks and groundhogs to the neighborhood. The animals are damaging neighbors' gardens"

If this is actually true, then he's putting out an "attractive nuisance" that's fouling the neighborhood for all of its residents, just so Bird Feeder Guy can get his jollies watching Bambi, Chip and Dale come by to much on his peanuts. That would be fine if that was all that was happening. But apparently, that's not all that's happening.

The general rule for a liberal, civil society is "you can do whatever you want, as long as you don't harm anyone else in the doing."

The second part of the clause is usually neglected (see: amnesty). It's the part of the equation that separates classical-liberalism/libertarianism from anarchism.

There's actual harm going on here, and it's quite possibly being caused by Bird Feeder Guy's bird feeder. On the way to Bird Feeder Guy's feeder, Bambi, Chip and Dale are stopping by to munch down on the neighbor's petunias and other shrubbery. That's actual harm, folks.

From the sparse info in the article, this doesn't look to me to be a bullshit, second-hand-smoke-type, "I'm personally deeply offended by your gauche and uncivilized habits and demeanor, so I'm calling The Man on you" situation.

Posted by: filbert at June 25, 2013 05:38 AM (7vimm)

285 Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 08:44 AM (9Bj8R)

"This war, like all wars, must end."

Too bad Obama pissed away American blood and treasure for a fair "non-victory" for us, and a clear win for good old-fashioned ME corruption, and another islamic state rooting for the caliphate.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 25, 2013 05:41 AM (Cnqmv)

286 281 Same here. Biggest property owners with the largest homes back in the 1960s, nicest clothes, cars, boats, pools. I don't think, though, that my Boomer generation carried on with the parent's farming. From my community back home, no one that I know of still farms. The parents sold their land to developers. All of Maricopa County's fertile earth has been paved over, and overrun, first by snowbirds, now illegal aliens. pfft Granted, prior to FDR's unprecedented 1st 100 Days comprehensive legislative passage of socialism, during the Great Depression and Dust Bowl tragedies, there were poor farmers. True enough, they survived subsistence livings with food, unless they were part of the Dust Bowl drought region. But they were often "dirt poor" without new clothes or plumbing, electricity in homes. The subsidy legislation was sold as if compassionate, revealing so long ago exactly what deceit is. Propaganda's gone overboard, selling slavery to globalist "investment" industry, and failing the rule of law: Too big to fail is too big to jail. FDR certainly knew how to sugar coat bullshit. The agribusiness corporatists certainly had their poor* rocky soil Yankee farmer poster boy to propagandize in order to secure national congressional votes for subsidies back in the day. *Jonah Goldberg relates in his Fascism book.

Posted by: panzernashorn at June 25, 2013 05:50 AM (MhA4j)

287 285. Yep, Mr. 'I'm Not Interested In Victory' President. Wahhabi ain't hot peas for snackin', either. Unless we're referencing our own neck on the Caliphate's butcher board.

Posted by: panzernashorn at June 25, 2013 05:53 AM (MhA4j)

288 How disappointing. Where's Gabe's daily hate on Ed Snowden?

Posted by: Michael at June 25, 2013 07:02 AM (Y/HG5)

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