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— Gabriel Malor

Happy Tuesday.

Gosh, why does the GOP have such trouble attracting new voters? Could it be the gleeful nastiness that so many like to display? Here's some photos from yesterday's anti-Gang of 8 "March for Jobs" that, to put it mildly, make it harder to sell Republicanism. These folks did us no favors. Nor did this woman, whom I'm sure has a plan to help the GOP shift Ohio back into the red column. And, of course, these old racist buttons from last year made another appearance.

Sen. Cruz, among other GOP leaders, spoke at the march. But, then, he's not up for reelection until 2018. What about politicians who have to appeal to voters now?

Meet CA-31's GOP Rep. Gary Miller. Rep. Miller used to represent CA-41, a safe GOP seat in Orange County, but moved over to CA-31 after redistricting.

He got lucky in 2012 because, under California's new "top two" primary system, his opponent was a Republican -- the Democrats having split the primary three ways. But Miller's not depending on that to get him reelected next year. He knows he has to be competitive in this majority-Latino district in San Bernardino. Which is why he has retracted his former statements suggesting that 12-20 million illegals be deported (from back when he was in a safe red district and could say things like that without getting the stuffing beat out of him on Election Day) and now says that he's "evolved" on the issue.

I highlight this example because it comes down to a question of whether the GOP is ready to simply give up CA-31 and similar "purple" districts. Do we want to take back the Senate? Do we ever want to take back the White House? Let me suggest that getting nasty, like the marchers did yesterday, is not a viable path to majority.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 03:01 AM | Comments (493)
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1 DAY 252 1,209 to go (1,282 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:01 AM (+98Gb)

2 No way! First?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 16, 2013 03:03 AM (57bzg)

3 Foist?

Posted by: Dale Gribble at July 16, 2013 03:03 AM (NlCgY)

4 Damn you J.J.!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 16, 2013 03:03 AM (57bzg)

5 Drat

Posted by: Dale Gribble at July 16, 2013 03:03 AM (+kznc)

6 Good Morning Morons. Today is Tuesday, July 16, 2013. On this day in 1790, in a compromise deal worked out at Thomas JeffersonÂ’s diner table, Washington DC was established as the nationÂ’s capital. So what did the North get out of the deal? They got the nation as a whole assuming all the other StateÂ’s war debts after VA had already paid off its debts. VA and MD got cheated.

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:03 AM (lZvxr)

7 CA officials want to know why 150 women prisoners were sterilized w/o State approval (note they did have the inmateÂ’s approval).

http://tinyurl.com/ov5axph

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:04 AM (lZvxr)

8 Senate Majority Leader Harry Â“PederastÂ” Reid issued an ultimatum to Republicans on Monday to confirm at least seven presidential appointees or face a controversial rule change that could drain their power.

If I am not mistaken it still takes 67 votes in the Senate to do a rule change in mid cycle. Supposedly this Â“nuclear optionÂ” bypasses that by using a loop-hole to get around the normal rules. The big block he is worried about is Choom KingÂ’s NLRB members who are radical labor lawyers far from the mid-stream. Not mentioned is Obama has had far fewer nominees blocked than Bush. And as usual, McShitty and Corker are getting ready to sell us out.

http://tinyurl.com/nejtjsc

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:04 AM (lZvxr)

9 PA teen saves 5 year old girl. Hailed as hero.

http://tinyurl.com/l8zf6ft

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:04 AM (lZvxr)

10 OH man who was beaten by the 6 teens last year has died. Not mentioned in this story is the fact that he was white and they were black. They claimed they were bored and looking for something to do. Police are looking at upping the charges now and have called for an autopsy. In SC this would have been charged as a Â“lynchingÂ” and they would not have to look at Â“uppingÂ” the charges. And if it had been 6 whites beating a black man it most assuredly would have been called a Â“hate crimeÂ”.

http://tinyurl.com/ol8qk76

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:04 AM (lZvxr)

11 Al Â“BrawlyÂ” Sharpton plans to stir up trouble in 100 cities. What I donÂ’t understand is why these cities do not block his trouble making shit (well I do understand but it has no logic). One wonders if some Â“innocent bystanderÂ” is injured through the resulting riots if they can sue this race-bating shithead.

http://tinyurl.com/pa9mmrt

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:05 AM (lZvxr)

12 In response to Moe Lane from the ONT, elections now have virtually ZERO effect. We have no effective/willing opposition party to the commies and the bureaucracy now rules over us through regulations that have the weight of law. The only Republican administration that was even moderately successful at forestalling this to a small degree was Ronald Reagan's. Sorry, Moe. We can elect Republicans from now to the end of time but it will be meaningless if they can't abolish whole departments and entitlement programs, let alone have the will to do so.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:05 AM (+98Gb)

13 Evidently there has already been a Â“lynchingÂ” of a white Hispanic by a group of blacks in Baltimore.

http://tinyurl.com/mtuohtp

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:05 AM (lZvxr)

14 Dept of treasure has admitted that tax records of political candidates and donors were accessed improperly by officials. Corrupt AG Holder will not prosecute and so far has refused to answer congressional questions despite a criminal contempt charge. One wonders why the DC federal court has not indicted him yet?

http://tinyurl.com/pc77rt5

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:05 AM (lZvxr)

15 Nth

Posted by: RolandTHTG at July 16, 2013 03:05 AM (qyoyx)

16 Mexico has captured the head of the Zetas cartel.

http://tinyurl.com/q9gjfm5

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:05 AM (lZvxr)

17 Yes Gabe, only mushy centrism gets Republicans elected.

Posted by: Dale Gribble at July 16, 2013 03:06 AM (+kznc)

18 Looks like Detroit is headed for Chapter 9 bankruptcy. All us bondholders will take it in the shorts. Yes I did say Â“usÂ”. If you have paid any federal taxes in the past decade then you are a bondholder.

http://tinyurl.com/pw69hbc

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:06 AM (lZvxr)

19 Another Jumpy the dog in the making? http://www.jokeroo.com/videos/dogs/dog-used-chair.html

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2013 03:06 AM (SSj/B)

20 Well, why in the hell should these people care about the GOP winning power, if the GOP is going to use this power in anti-american ways? Just so RINOs can get their slice of the corruption pie? The GOP had all the time it needed to get the budget balanced and reform all kinds of things. they didn't bother. The reason they didn't bother is because conservatives were foolishly loyal and the GOP played politics with that in mind. Now the conservatives recognize that either the GOP has to make a hard turn to the right, or the GOP needs to die and be replaced with a relevant political party. What do I care if the party that nominates a guy like Mitt Romney has little power? I really don't see why such a principle-free organization matters.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 03:06 AM (0a/7L)

21 Even the government says MoochÂ’s school lunch program is a disaster. What I want to know is who elected her to any office?

http://tinyurl.com/oyxr8wk

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:06 AM (lZvxr)

22 The real Travon that you will never see in the MFM.

http://tinyurl.com/qfbwywr

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:06 AM (lZvxr)

23 Extensive 6 month poll puts the lie to the RNCÂ’s Hispanic Â“outreachÂ”. And piss on Ratshit Rubio too.

http://tinyurl.com/q67faxg

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:07 AM (lZvxr)

24 John Fund on FLÂ’s attempted Zimmerman lynching.

http://tinyurl.com/nutll8c

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:07 AM (lZvxr)

25 Orrin Hatch blasts the UN Human Disability rights treaty, and Heritage blasts the abysmal record of other countries in following these BS treaties. It seems that we are the only ones expected to follow these treaties. What they actually are in the US is lawyer empowerment tools.

http://tinyurl.com/lk6kt6a

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:07 AM (lZvxr)

26 Kindle Daily Deals

http://tinyurl.com/moltezg

And thatÂ’s it for today.

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:08 AM (lZvxr)

27 11 Al Â“BrawlyÂ” Sharpton plans to stir up trouble in 100 cities. What I donÂ’t understand is why these cities do not block his trouble making shit (well I do understand but it has no logic). One wonders if some Â“innocent bystanderÂ” is injured through the resulting riots if they can sue this race-bating shithead. http://tinyurl.com/pa9mmrt Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 07:05 AM (lZvxr) Al Sharpton incited the death of several people over the course of his criminal existence. Look up Freddie's Fashion Mart and Yankel Rosenbaum. David Dinkins was culpable in the latter for allowing the Crown Heights riot which was, in effect, a city-sanctioned pogrom.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:08 AM (+98Gb)

28 "Let me suggest that getting nasty, like the marchers did yesterday, is not a viable path to majority." I agree that being 'nasty' like the marchers isn't going to win very many votes, and certainly not enough to turn California red. That being said, showing a little spine and calling a spade a spade if you will, should make us contenders. If only the GOP had a spine.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 16, 2013 03:08 AM (57bzg)

29 Vic: Your keyboard is producing weird characters?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:09 AM (+98Gb)

30 Boy with mental retardation helps homeless pets. http://tinyurl.com/qxx4ujy

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2013 03:09 AM (SSj/B)

31 Gee Gabe, jumping on the amnesty Buss? As I said, piss on Ratshit Rubio

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:09 AM (lZvxr)

32 Now the conservatives recognize that either the GOP has to make a hard turn to the right, or the GOP needs to die and be replaced with a relevant political party. Option A will not happen. Ask Gabe. Therefore bring on option B.

Posted by: Dale Gribble at July 16, 2013 03:09 AM (+kznc)

33 28 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 16, 2013 07:08 AM (57bzg) Any GOP's response should be as polite, forthright, honest and BRAVE as the 6 jurors. No more, no less.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:10 AM (+98Gb)

34 I can't access Gabe's links to the "nastiness." Somebody care to put me some knowledge so I know whether he's talking out his ass again?

Posted by: Ellen DeGeneris at July 16, 2013 03:10 AM (zF6Iw)

35 And Gabe, Republicans have never picked up any sizable portion of the Hispanic vote, and History has shown it will never pick them up. They have gone democrat even after Republicans caved for the last amnesty.

Bringing in another 30 million Democrat voters is not a way to WIN Republican voters/.

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:11 AM (lZvxr)

Morning, Â‘rons and Â‘ronettes.

As I was walking into work this morning, I passed the hospital TVs tuned to CNN (I know, I know). One of the Zimmerman jurors was being interviewed. It says a lot, both about the Â‘black communityÂ’ and about that rabble-rousing tinpot Il Douche in the White House that she was hidden in order to keep her anonymity. Nice rule of law weÂ’ve got here, huh?

(of course, now that IÂ’ve seen last nightÂ’s threads, I see Drew already addressed this. Still, my point stands.)

Anyway, on to Hollywood: Like Sam Goldwyn, whose malapropisms have become legend, whether he really said them Â– Â“Gentlemen, include me outÂ” or they were the creation of a publicist Â– Â“I want to make a movie about the Russian secret police; you know, the G.O.P.Â” Â– Columbia chief Harry Cohn is also the protagonist of stories that seem to good to be true. Here are a couple:

For an oration in a film about big business, a Columbia screenwriter decided to crib from SpartacusÂ’ oration to his gladiators at the arena in Capua. When Cohn read the script, he called the writer on the carpet. Â“What is this shit?Â” he yelled. The writer began explaining the historical background of the speech, but Cohn wanted to hear nothing about it. Â“I donÂ’t want any of that crap. I want a speech that every person in the audience will recognize immediately.Â”

Â“You mean like HamletÂ’s soliloquy?Â” the writer suggested.

Â“No, goddammit!Â” Cohn screamed, Â“I mean something like Â‘To be or not to be!Â’Â”

Another time, itÂ’s said, Cohn heard that The Iliad, by somebody named Homer, would make a great movie. He called his writers together and said, Â“Boys, I want a one-page treatment of it by tomorrow.Â” So a team of Columbia screenwriters worked through the night, fueled by coffee and fear. The next morning, shaken and bleary-eyed, they handed Cohn a one-page synopsis.

Cohn read it. He gave his writers a doubtful look. Â“There are an awful lot of Greeks in it.Â”

And thatÂ’s it for me. Hope you all have a wonderful day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 03:11 AM (zF6Iw)

37 Let me suggest that getting nasty, like the marchers did yesterday, is not a viable path to majority.

--Because it has been such an abject failure for Democrats.

Posted by: logprof at July 16, 2013 03:11 AM (3VBXw)

38 So if nasty politics doesn't win perhaps you could explain how liberals do it every damn day and win.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 16, 2013 03:12 AM (g1DWB)

39 Whats up with all the Euro symbols ?

Posted by: McCool at July 16, 2013 03:12 AM (cbP6j)

40 Screw the GOP...Viva Mexico!

Posted by: BignJames at July 16, 2013 03:12 AM (Sg0G/)

41 Well, this is the site that uses Dondi as a caricature of Rubio, so I guess we all should be throwing dirty looks at a mirror.

Posted by: FART at July 16, 2013 03:13 AM (i14bS)

42 Why isn't there a hue and cry for Al Sharpton to be shit canned? Is there no one who will call him a race baiting hate monger to his face on TV?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 16, 2013 03:13 AM (57bzg)

43 Could it be the gleeful nastiness that so many like to display?

We could be here all fucking day and night posting nothing but videos of Democrats being "gleefully nasty" during their campaigns, and during their gloating about their electoral victories, then while they're throwing their quorum tantrums and tampons and racial witch hunts.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking heavily at July 16, 2013 03:13 AM (hO8IJ)

44 "...And, of course, these old racist buttons from last year made another appearance..." Gabe, please explain how a button showing Rubio's face that says "Marco Rubio, Amnesty Man" is racist. I think you're losing it, pal.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:13 AM (+98Gb)

45 Pray for "allegedly" Reverend Al Sharpton (thanks Mark Steyn for the "allegedly" description). He is severely lacking in the fruit of the Spirit.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2013 03:14 AM (SSj/B)

46 So if nasty politics doesn't win perhaps you could explain how liberals do it every damn day and win. Posted by: JackStraw

They have a very different agenda.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2013 03:14 AM (USJNU)

47 Because it has been such an abject failure for Democrats.

*gives you the finger while you're speaking*
Now go out there and punish my enemies!

...and scene.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking heavily at July 16, 2013 03:15 AM (hO8IJ)

48
Not mentioned is Obama has had far fewer nominees blocked than Bush.

Does anyone have a link to the actual numbers? I've tried searching...but I'm drawing a blank.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 16, 2013 03:15 AM (0IhFx)

49 42 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 16, 2013 07:13 AM (57bzg) I used to belong to the Reebok Sports Club in NY and one day I found myself face to face (clothed!) with Sharpton in the locker. All by ourselves. The temptation to, er, "discuss" things with him was overwhelming.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:15 AM (+98Gb)

50 @41
Thanks for the name. I've been trying to remember it since it first appeared.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2013 03:15 AM (USJNU)

51 _{I would love to have seen a panel discussion with Goldwyn, Yogi Berra, Casey Stengel and Groucho Marx.}

Posted by: real joe at July 16, 2013 03:16 AM (3/h0M)

52 GOOD MORNING, VIC!!!!

Posted by: Adriane ... at July 16, 2013 03:16 AM (Wk9TK)

53 Evidently something has happened to Pixy because I have done noting with my keyboard and all the posts have been filtered through notepad to insure any stray ansi characters are stripped.

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:16 AM (lZvxr)

54 >>They have a very different agenda. Indeed. But that doesn't explain how we are going to attract voters by being Pollyanna while Dems are busy kicking us in the balls, calling us racist, homophobos who hate women. I guess I'll just have to keep waiting for a real explanation as to how this sweetness campaign is a winner for us.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 16, 2013 03:17 AM (g1DWB)

55 And BTW, I hardly think T-shits mocking traitor Rubio is are nasty.

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:18 AM (lZvxr)

56 51 I would love to have seen a panel discussion with Goldwyn, Yogi Berra, Casey Stengel and Groucho Marx. Posted by: real joe at July 16, 2013 07:16 AM (3/h0M) I used to work for someone who's dad was a partner of legendary agent Lew Wasserman (MCA). He told me that when he was a kid, he would watch his dad play cards with Lew, Groucho and George Burns. When they wanted no one to overhear them, they switched to Yiddish. He laments not having a movie camera to record what undoubtedly would have been priceless humor and history!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:19 AM (+98Gb)

57 Does anyone have a link to the actual numbers? I've tried searching...but I'm drawing a blank.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 16, 2013 07:15 AM (0IhFx)

I posted a link in the morning news several weeks (maybe a month) ago. Bush had quite a few more blocked than Obama has had at this same time frame.

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:19 AM (lZvxr)

58 "--Because it has been such an abject failure for Democrats." Because someone needs to be the adult in the room; because if we degenerate to their level, then fuck it. We may as well just initiate the 2nd Civil War.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 16, 2013 03:19 AM (57bzg)

59 @54
I agree that that approach is completely wrong and will not work. I'm just saying I have no interest in being judged by the same behavioral and ethical standards as the left.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2013 03:20 AM (USJNU)

60 What politics in the US has become
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/horror-movie-happy-meal-2.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 03:20 AM (QbyMe)

61 The temptation to, er, "discuss" things with him was overwhelming

Apparently not really. I mean, he's still breathing, and you're not in prison...

Posted by: GMan at July 16, 2013 03:20 AM (sxq57)

62 I don't think they were being nasty or racist. Rubio was a sellout and a traitor. The crowd didn't use any racial slurs that I could see. I saw no urine, feces or tampons.

Posted by: Jmel at July 16, 2013 03:21 AM (cfFqn)

Gabe, please explain how a button showing Rubio's face that says "Marco Rubio, Amnesty Man" is racist.
I think you're losing it, pal.

Losing it? If that button is racist, then Gabe's taunt of "I told you so" about gay marriage is fucking hate speech.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 03:22 AM (zF6Iw)

64 Good Morning Adriane!

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:22 AM (lZvxr)

65 36 Cohn read it. He gave his writers a doubtful look. Â“There are an awful lot of Greeks in it.Â” And thatÂ’s it for me. Hope you all have a wonderful day. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 07:11 AM (zF6Iw) It was the treatment for "Diner." Good morning, Mary P!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:22 AM (+98Gb)

66 I'd have to say that the photo of Rubio with big ears and the Amnesty ass shirt were quite inappppriate and but I can't say that I think the button of Rubio was racist, Gabe. As far as gleeful nastiness. I've been a recipient of it from tolerant loving leftists who told me repeatedly on political forums that they hope my kid died in front of me in agony and them proceeded to tell me that they loved me This was all because I didn't agree with them on politics. I find some of the comments here unfortunate. but it's nothing compared to what I been subjected to by leftists

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2013 03:22 AM (SSj/B)

67 "GOP die" sounds good to me. Seriously, what good are they?

Posted by: White guy who tans so heavily he can at July 16, 2013 03:23 AM (ULH4o)

68 61 The temptation to, er, "discuss" things with him was overwhelming Apparently not really. I mean, he's still breathing, and you're not in prison... Posted by: GMan at July 16, 2013 07:20 AM (sxq57) I said it was overwhelming. I didn't say I gave into it! And besides, I couldn't be absolutely sure I'd get away with... "it."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:23 AM (+98Gb)

69 JJ your posts have "symbols" in them now.

Pixy is eating itself.

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:24 AM (lZvxr)

70 66 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2013 07:22 AM (SSj/B) THIS!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:24 AM (+98Gb)

71 So, should I read this as the beatings will continue until morale improves?

Posted by: Boone at July 16, 2013 03:24 AM (tIyK2)

72 58 "--Because it has been such an abject failure for Democrats."

Because someone needs to be the adult in the room; because if we degenerate to their level, then fuck it. We may as well just initiate the 2nd Civil War.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 16, 2013 07:19 AM (57bzg)

--I love ya, but for how many generations can one be the sole adult in a room?

Posted by: logprof at July 16, 2013 03:25 AM (3VBXw)

73 Ok, why don't we just get it over with and declare the Republican Party the New American Tories: just as socialist as the Democrats, but better!

Either we have real principles or we don't. If we have to become a carbon copy of the Democrats to win a few elections here or there, then it is over for conservatism already.

Just as well; I can think of other things to do on Tuesday evenings than cast a futile vote every couple years.

Posted by: Jeff P at July 16, 2013 03:25 AM (+SXXg)

74 69 JJ your posts have "symbols" in them now. Pixy is eating itself. Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 07:24 AM (lZvxr) Pixy-dusted. Helluva drug!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:25 AM (+98Gb)

75 Sure, the protestors are idiots. There's not much you can do about that. There will always be idiots. There will always be haters. What the GOP did in nominating Romney was not only embrace taking a position well to the left of the 1990s democrat party on virtually all positions, given Romney's progressive record, but also supported a guy who repeatedly employed illegal aliens for lawn care, and rather pathetically lied about not being aware of it (since he kept doing it through the exact same company with some people who were obviously illegal). The GOP shows such insincerity on illegal immigrants, with many talking about securing the border while actually hoping to employ these people under exploitative terms. That's sanctioning lawlessness. I don't think the GOP can ever be rid of bozos with silly slogans, and no other political party can either. There will always be nuts. But they can have higher standards than to nominate flip flopping liars.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 03:25 AM (0a/7L)

76 >>I agree that that approach is completely wrong and will not work. I'm just saying I have no interest in being judged by the same behavioral and ethical standards as the left. Nor do I. Nor do I wish to be judged by Gabe's standard of what is nasty and what isn't. I didn't see anything in the images he posted which come close to the level of racism. Harsh politics, sure. This ain't bean bag. I agree with von Clausewitz, politics is war by other means, and we are losing because we keep bringing a knife to a gun fight. Worse, we listen to people like Gabe who want us to bring a rubber knife. When people on our side start making paper mache heads of Obama with dripping fangs or throw tampons at their side I might get upset. Until then, not so much.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 16, 2013 03:25 AM (g1DWB)

77 yes, lets push the absurd narrative that the GOP is the party of lunatics, nastiness, and deception. Hell Gabe, why not tell us how we have to try harder since we all hate the poor and minorities too? What good is being nice if one guy in a T-shirt causes a coblogger of the 2008 winner of the conservative blog of the year to start bitching? I say we go full bull goose loon nasty for a change.

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at July 16, 2013 03:26 AM (zZJJp)

78 Seems to me Gabe, that the problem with the Republican Party is people who are too quick to criticize us while they give the side that encourages riots, looks the other way and constantly and continuously lies and race-baits a pass. But we have to be perfect, huh? Maybe it's time, past time, we got in the streets and fought back. But that would take balls. Something too many Republicans lack. Some would rather sit back and toss criticisms at their own side.

Posted by: Uncle Rick at July 16, 2013 03:27 AM (ZbB1q)

79 I'd like to like Gabe but he makes it irtually impossible. The GOP will never get a sizeable portion of the hispanic vote. We have 30+ years of solid data that shows that gop presidential candidates have on average recieved 30% of the latino vote. As the hispanic population of california has grown democrat control of the state has grown to the point where they hold complete and irrevicable control of that state. California used to be a republican strong hold it is now a democrat fortress with 55 electoral votes and wielding tremendous political influence. And there is nothing wrong with any of those buttons or shirts. Anyone pushing to regularize 11-30 million foreign nationals is an agent of that country and seeks to destroy the USA. Marco rubio and anyone pushing this is my enemy and should be branded a traitor.

Posted by: kreplach at July 16, 2013 03:27 AM (LnQr8)

80 So you DO subscribe to the fantasy that Republicans CAN appeal to big government hispanic liberals AND that Republicans can garner enough of the hispanic vote to make a difference. Oh and also not turn off the vastly more important white vote in the process. Good luck with that

Posted by: deadrody at July 16, 2013 03:27 AM (osIoP)

81 KCAL reporters mostly uninjured at the mostly peaceful protests.
http://tinyurl.com/msqe2g4

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 03:27 AM (QbyMe)

82 "Nasty"? "Racist"? Come on Gabe, let's all put our big girl panties on and untwist the pampers. That shit was mild. And yes, by all means, let's continue to compromise and evolve and move to the middle. Because that's worked so fucking well for the GOP.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 03:28 AM (da5Wo)

83 I have said this before, but fine tuning the GOP message is a waste of time unless and until the voting process is cleaned up and fraud is eliminated. Foreigners who observe our elections are amazed at the complete absence of any kind of voter ID. There is a reason the Dems fight tooth and nail against integrity in the voting process.

Posted by: real joe at July 16, 2013 03:29 AM (3/h0M)

84 The following comment was a preplanned one, and is not really in response to Malor's comments:

We of the classic liberal/classic republicanism brand are told we are too white, must expand, must respect. And yet, when seemingly the top two priorities of the two "groups of color" we must "respect" the most are the following:

--Lynch George Zimmerman despite what the law indicates may be done
--Bless illegals, no matter what

then we have a problem, because it shows what I always knew--that in "respect", what we are truly being told is to give in to demands that have no basis in propriety, that have no real justification, other than brute force electoral strength--in demands that have no true righteousness to them.

I am afraid I am just not interested in winning these wonderful voters if what they ask for is a "sphere of influence" within the law, where on any issue that even marginally touches upon their race, they have the veto (regardless whether the veto will be based on principal or crassness). Well, sorry, no. I'd rather the United States end. It is supposed to be a commonweal, not a protection racket or the Kingdoms of Mongo.

Here is my true belief--we will get through the next thirty years just fine if everyone is brought to believe the Experiment is always just a series of incidents away from ending--and if lovers of liberty are ready to make that so. If you would have domestic peace, prepare for domestic war.

Posted by: T. at July 16, 2013 03:29 AM (97B01)

85 76 "...and we are losing because we keep bringing a knife to a gun fight. Worse, we listen to people like Gabe who want us to bring a rubber knife." Posted by: JackStraw at July 16, 2013 07:25 AM (g1DWB) I laughed. (then I cried). So true.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:29 AM (+98Gb)

86 This site discusses Bush vs Obama numbers

http://tinyurl.com/lsobtgf

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 03:30 AM (lZvxr)

You seem to have a great grasp on how not to win, Gabe.

Give us a winning strategy in 100 words, or less, that doesn't sound like the bullshit we heard during the last presidential election, because that was not a winning strategy. QED.

Posted by: Invictus at July 16, 2013 03:30 AM (OQpzc)

88 People have a tendency to get "nasty" when they are repeatedly lied to, ignored and treated like they are stupid. There's only so much pushing one can take before they strike back.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 16, 2013 03:30 AM (LP0Fj)

89 That shirt and buttons was it?

Pffft, that's nothing.

Posted by: RarestRX at July 16, 2013 03:31 AM (OlAq3)

90 >>People have a tendency to get "nasty" when they are repeatedly lied to, ignored and treated like they are stupid. There's only so much pushing one can take before they strike back. Are you talking politics or how some of the co-bloggers talk to us?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 16, 2013 03:32 AM (g1DWB)

91 84 "...Well, sorry, no. I'd rather the United States end. It is supposed to be a commonweal, not a protection racket or the Kingdoms of Mongo." Posted by: T. at July 16, 2013 07:29 AM (97B01) Damn, you commenters are en fuego. Kingdom of Mongo. Priceless. Ruled by Queen Jenteal, no doubt. Seriously, your post is dead on.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:32 AM (+98Gb)

92 Go back to your country club Gabe. Be sure to close the gate.

Posted by: Queequeg The Harpooner at July 16, 2013 03:32 AM (ghdYL)

93 I simply cannot understand why some have such enormous difficulty in calling bad policy "bad policy."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 16, 2013 03:33 AM (5tpzF)

94 Al Â“BrawlyÂ” Sharpton plans to stir up trouble in 100 cities. What I donÂ’t understand is why these cities do not block his trouble making shit (well I do understand but it has no logic). One wonders if some Â“innocent bystanderÂ” is injured through the resulting riots if they can sue this race-bating shithead.

http://tinyurl.com/pa9mmrt
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 07:05 AM (lZvxr)

Yesterday, an incident here just proves that it doesn't matter the facts. The usual suspects will be out in force protesting. Two white officers were out patrolling and saw an SUV that matched the description of one reported stolen. They stopped to investigate, and a black man got out of the vehicle. It appeared to the officers that he was carrying a weapon. They ordered him to come to their vehicle, and he fled. During the chase, he dropped the weapon. He grabbed it and turned toward one of the officers, and the officer shot and killed him. There were protests of the shooting.

What does that say about the issue?

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at July 16, 2013 03:33 AM (Gkhxf)

95 Gosh, why does the GOP have such trouble attracting new voters? Their problem hasn't been attracting new voters, it's been alienating the old ones.

Posted by: BuddyPC at July 16, 2013 03:33 AM (bYQ1a)

96 That's killing us, but crowds chanting 'Hail Satan' don't hurt the Dems? Malor to the fainting couch.

Posted by: zsasz at July 16, 2013 03:34 AM (MMC8r)

97 94 Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at July 16, 2013 07:33 AM (Gkhxf) I only saw a headline at some MFM outlet which said something to the effect of "Protest Over Cops Shooting Unarmed Black Man." When the facts come it, it makes a world of difference. But the MFM is not in the business of letting the facts come out.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:36 AM (+98Gb)

98 88 People have a tendency to get "nasty" when they are repeatedly lied to, ignored and treated like they are stupid. There's only so much pushing one can take before they strike back.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 16, 2013 07:30 AM (LP0Fj)

--Yes, like being told I'm a stale racist despite being married to a Mexican. And being told I'm Christianist despite being agnostic. And being told I'm a hick despite holding a [non-"Studies"] doctoral degree from a well-regarded university.

Posted by: logprof at July 16, 2013 03:36 AM (3VBXw)

99 95 95 Gosh, why does the GOP have such trouble attracting new voters? Their problem hasn't been attracting new voters, it's been alienating the old ones. Posted by: BuddyPC at July 16, 2013 07:33 AM (bYQ1a) THIS. THIS. THIS. 1000x THIS.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:37 AM (+98Gb)

100 Let me suggest that getting nasty, like the marchers did yesterday, is not a viable path to majority.

Sure as fuck seems to have worked for the Democrats.

I'm not solely being snarky there. Calling those on the other side sexual slurs, claiming that anyone who is a conservative is stupid and evil and, to use a term I hate, utterly otherizing the opposition sure as fuck seems to have worked for the Democrats.

Playing by the rules only works when both sides agree there are rules. When one side doesn't and the other does? Well here we are.

Or, to sum up, the Cult of Nice is no less wholly pathetic when applied to politics than when applied to life.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 16, 2013 03:37 AM (Gk3SS)

101 Isn't gay marriage unpopular among minority groups in Cali , maybe GOP should pander to that?

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at July 16, 2013 03:37 AM (AWmfW)

102 Gabe, concern troll? GOPs problem is the selling out. Always with the selling out.

Posted by: Regular Joe is amazed at July 16, 2013 03:38 AM (hemD9)

103 Oooooh, Gabe, were those nasty old marchers mean to widdle Baby Marco? Did hims run crying to him's mommy?

Jeebus.

If we're going to focus all dissent on being nice so we don't upset the tender sensibilities of the Democrats, we might as well pack it in now. We'll be even bigger losers than we already are.

As times get worse -- thank your little palsy-walsies on the left for that, Gabe -- we are getting closer to the point where some pretty nasty action is inevitable. Now is not the time to take the Ed Morrissey approach. In fact, never is the time to adopt the squishy-but-nice tactics of Poppin' Fresh.

I don't want or need to understand America-haters. I don't care about being nice to them. And I don't care if they think I'm being all hurtful and stuff about them. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 16, 2013 03:38 AM (/RIVS)

104 The ones who argue that to win new voters compromises need to be made are they ones hoping the alligator eats them last. Appeasement never works. Either stand for something up front or go home.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 03:39 AM (QbyMe)

105 101 Isn't gay marriage unpopular among minority groups in Cali , maybe GOP should pander to that? Posted by: Temper Tantrum at July 16, 2013 07:37 AM (AWmfW) BANG!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:39 AM (+98Gb)

106 Not to mention that there is nothing racist nor nasty about those buttons. Pulling it out of your ass again, disingenuousGabe.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 16, 2013 03:39 AM (B2fm1)

107 Logprof, why do you insist on bucking the narrative?

Posted by: real joe at July 16, 2013 03:39 AM (3/h0M)

108 >> So if nasty politics doesn't win perhaps you could explain how liberals do it every damn day and win. Same thought I had as I was reading this. Plus, the media's going to call us racists no matter what. Since we can't control what t-shirts or buttons a few people wear, instead of tilting at this particular windmill, maybe our candidates should just get better at deflecting the charge.

Posted by: Andy at July 16, 2013 03:40 AM (li+aS)

109 Actually Romney's position on amnesty and illegals in the primary was far to the right over everything. If you recall dude turned super amnesty hawk in order to flog Rick Perry with the in state school tuition thing. Now I don't believe that was his real position but I don't know what the fuck Romney real positions are and that might be why he lost.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at July 16, 2013 03:40 AM (HEa5q)

110

That's killing us, but crowds chanting 'Hail Satan' don't hurt the Dems?

Yes, you see, because the "Hail Satan!" crowd are only a few, and even if they were there, they are infiltrators. Whereas one woman with an "Amnesty Rubio" button is indicative of the irredeemably racist nature of the entire GOP.

Malor to the fainting couch.

Posted by: zsasz at July 16, 2013 07:34 AM (MMC8r)

Sold at all good "Maverick McCain" furniture stores.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 03:40 AM (zF6Iw)

111 Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 07:06 AM (0a/7L) - This. Also, the GOP and Rubio in particular continues to be all for mass immigration, which means destruction for the right-wing base, which is 90% white, and a permanent leftist majority on every issue, not just some issues. A party with that commitment is no representation at all. It has to be destroyed and replaced with a party that will represent the interests of the base. Three key issues: 1. End mass immigration, legal and illegal. 2. End affirmative action; let whites have an equal shot at education and jobs. 3. Explicitly say white identity and white interests are as valid as any other. If a party doesn't agree on those three issues, you might as well stay home. Because even if your top issue is something else, like abortion, the deficit or defense, a party that continues to support demographic, economic and cultural destruction for whites will eventually lose on your main issue too. If the utter futility of the forty years since Roe v. Wade has taught us anything, it's that supporting phonies as "the lesser evil" while they continue to let leftists import most of a million extra voters a year is hopeless. You cannot let your own throats be cut while focusing on "the higher cause" - which is what idealistic whites have been doing. That just leaves the cause defenseless.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 16, 2013 03:41 AM (hZKDR)

112 I thought this was the place to go when it was time to "start slitting throats"? Has the blog had a makeover?

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at July 16, 2013 03:41 AM (zZJJp)

113 Isn't gay marriage unpopular among minority groups in Cali , maybe GOP should pander to that? Thread winner.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 16, 2013 03:41 AM (OevbG)

114 107 Logprof, why do you insist on bucking the narrative?

Posted by: real joe at July 16, 2013 07:39 AM (3/h0M)

--Because the narrator is a shithead like Morgan Freeman.

Posted by: logprof at July 16, 2013 03:42 AM (3VBXw)

115 Seems to me we've been taking the advice of the tepid Establishment Right for awhile now, with very poor results. Milquetoast sellout candidates aren't what the GOP needs to survive. We know the path we must take. It's simple, but not easy. No, easy is to just parrot liberals and be content to live off of their electoral table scraps. But that is the path to ruin.

Posted by: @johntant at July 16, 2013 03:42 AM (F19vU)

116 Politicians are the subject of parody in newspaper cartoons every day. But now it's racist when a couple of conservative voters do it? You're full of shit.

Posted by: waldo at July 16, 2013 03:42 AM (cjFRv)

117 Are you talking politics or how some of the co-bloggers talk to us? Posted by: JackStraw at July 16, 2013 07:32 AM (g1DWB) Politics, but now that you mention it...yes.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 16, 2013 03:43 AM (B2fm1)

118 Somebody who follows twitter might let me know whether Gabe ever answers any of these criticisms or just dismisses us as creepy-ass crackas.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 03:43 AM (zF6Iw)

119
Isn't gay marriage unpopular among minority groups in Cali , maybe GOP should pander to that?
Posted by: Temper Tantrum

Sorry. In that case the Republican version of the "Vanguard of the Proletariat" rule is suddenly invoked.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2013 03:43 AM (kdS6q)

120 112 I thought this was the place to go when it was time to "start slitting throats"? Has the blog had a makeover? Posted by: endeavor to persevere at July 16, 2013 07:41 AM (zZJJp) I assume you mean metaphorically, no?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:44 AM (+98Gb)

121 Or, to sum up, the Cult of Nice is no less wholly pathetic when applied to politics than when applied to life. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 16, 2013 07:37 AM (Gk3SS) There are people who believe in being Nice all the time?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 03:45 AM (da5Wo)

122 118 Somebody who follows twitter might let me know whether Gabe ever answers any of these criticisms or just dismisses us as creepy-ass crackas. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 07:43 AM (zF6Iw) He needs Twitter to respond to attacks on things he just posted here?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:45 AM (+98Gb)

123 Has the blog had a makeover?

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at July 16, 2013 07:41 AM (zZJJp)

--Nope, I'm still overweight.

Posted by: logprof at July 16, 2013 03:45 AM (3VBXw)

124 >>Now I don't believe that was his real position but I don't know what the fuck Romney real positions are and that might be why he lost. Take a look at his record as governor of MA to get an idea. Fought against in state tuition for illegals, fought against sanctuary cities, was one of the first governors in the country to sign up to have the state police to work with ICE. He was always anti-illegals, he didn't just come up with that position during the presidential election. One of the reasons he lost is because he got tagged by the Boston Globe as a flip flopper because he became more conservative when he became governor on abortion and conservatives just took the phrase and ran with it. Too bad more people didn't look at his actual record.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 16, 2013 03:45 AM (g1DWB)

125 Hey MPPP here is a movie that should be funny to watch - Dracula's Dog.

http://youtu.be/KHYQDmhIx2I

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 03:45 AM (QbyMe)

126 We don't need this government. The lib client-base does.

Posted by: Regular Joe is amazed at July 16, 2013 03:46 AM (hemD9)

127
Somebody who follows twitter might let me know whether Gabe ever answers any of these criticisms or just dismisses us as creepy-ass crackas.
Posted by: Mary Poppins

Creepy-ass crackas and worse. He's uses his inside voice here.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2013 03:46 AM (kdS6q)

128 121 There are people who believe in being Nice all the time? Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 07:45 AM (da5Wo) Bill Daniels. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nice

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:46 AM (+98Gb)

129 Because importing another 11 million democrats is going to work so well.

Posted by: SDN at July 16, 2013 03:46 AM (9QWym)

130 Posting while blond
...cheerleader
...all optimistic, cheerful, and happy
..with big ...hair

Ya, winning philosophy.
It could work, why not? It's not like anything else is working.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 16, 2013 03:46 AM (etwBI)

131 I only saw a headline at some MFM outlet which said something to the effect of "Protest Over Cops Shooting Unarmed Black Man."

When the facts come it, it makes a world of difference. But the MFM is not in the business of letting the facts come out.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 07:36 AM (+98Gb)

http://tinyurl.com/l8xnmv7

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at July 16, 2013 03:46 AM (Gkhxf)

132 If the blond cheerleader in question is Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 03:47 AM (QbyMe)

133 I've always voted for the GOP candidate in presidential elections. Four now. I've volunteered in three. I couldn't stomach Romney's pompous supporters, so I only voted for him, but I really deeply regret it. That vote didn't help this country a bit. It probably harmed it by reinforcing this idea that the GOP should be like Romney, Mccain, Graham, Murkowski, etc. I won't do it again. The GOP has lost me as a member and volunteer and voter. I will only vote for candidates that I support, with no regard to their partisanship and really only a look at a very short list of issues I care about. I assert that the GOP has shed more voters like me than it has gained voters who want green cards. Those guys are democrats, idiots. The GOP had its long chance to balance the budget and left this country in a huge mess. All it has to offer in its defense is that the democrats are scary.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 03:47 AM (0a/7L)

134

Is Rubio wearing a sombrero in the button?

I don't like that.

Be as nasty to him as you want for his votes, but no, not with an ethnic stereotype prop.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 16, 2013 03:47 AM (SUKHu)

135 124 Posted by: JackStraw at July 16, 2013 07:45 AM (g1DWB) So, okay. But please "splain me his state-run health care for Mass.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:48 AM (+98Gb)

136 Bill Daniels. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nice Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 07:46 AM (+98Gb) Rons, I think I've found our next Republican candidate for POTUS.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 03:48 AM (da5Wo)

137 Gabe doesn't give a shit if we have a GOP Senate or if we put one in the White House. This is just Gabe's way of saying he's better then us. I can hear the same shit on MSNBC 24/7. Hell I think ace even wrote a piece on not to long ago, Gabe must have missed it.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 16, 2013 03:49 AM (Fz2C7)

138

He needs Twitter to respond to attacks on things he just posted here?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 07:45 AM (+98Gb)

I've been told that's where he generally responds when the Horde ruffles his feathers.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 03:49 AM (zF6Iw)

139 Malor really needs to stick to a neutral presentation of mostly irrelevant news.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2013 03:49 AM (4XER9)

140 134 Is Rubio wearing a sombrero in the button? I don't like that. Be as nasty to him as you want for his votes, but no, not with an ethnic stereotype prop. Posted by: Mama AJ at July 16, 2013 07:47 AM (SUKHu) Didn't even notice it at first (like a SCOAMF halo). But is him being depicted wearing a traditional hat of Mexico racist? I distinctly remember a president going there and putting one on for a photo-op. Rather weak sauce, Mama AJ.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:50 AM (+98Gb)

141 Do we want to take back the Senate? Do we ever want to take back the White House?

Does it even matter? *We* (meaning you) had the White House, the Senate, and the House from 2003-2007. What conservative, small-government legislation was passed in that time? What conservative small government legislation has been passed since 1996?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 16, 2013 03:50 AM (QXlbZ)

142 Because importing another 11 million democrats is going to work so well.

Posted by: SDN at July 16, 2013 07:46 AM (9QWym)

Be closer to 40 million with extended families and such.

Posted by: Invictus at July 16, 2013 03:51 AM (OQpzc)

143 141 Do we want to take back the Senate? Do we ever want to take back the White House? Does it even matter? *We* (meaning you) had the White House, the Senate, and the House from 2003-2007. What conservative, small-government legislation was passed in that time? What conservative small government legislation has been passed since 1996? Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 16, 2013 07:50 AM (QXlbZ) See my post far up-thread. It was in response to Moe Lane's be-of-good-cheer/we'll win the next election cycle and things will get better drivel from last night's ONT.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:51 AM (+98Gb)

144 Watching some of the MFM shows last night and the fact that the jurors were NOT BLAAAAACCCCCKKKKK seem to be a recurring theme in the "sumptins gottta be done" crowd. Why doesn't the GOP bring up the issue that this crowd does not think that 6 women can provide a fair verdict? Blast the race baiters as sexists. Go after them and turn it all around to their fault!

Posted by: Bruce at July 16, 2013 03:52 AM (7Waan)

145 136 Rons, I think I've found our next Republican candidate for POTUS. Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 07:48 AM (da5Wo) I look forward to Maxwell Smart being appointed CIA chief (Chief!!! - I just made a funny!)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:53 AM (+98Gb)

146

Nastiness has worked just fine for the Democrats... and continues to work for them.

Part of the GOP's problem is it's lack of nastiness, it's unwillingness to paint opponents as liars and enemies of "regular Americans."

There's two parts to an electoral equation: make them like you and make them distrust/dislike/hate the other guy. The Democrats get this (Kill Romney) The GOP doesn't. Our elected officials save their ire for conservatives and tea partiers.

In short: stuff it, Malor. (Respectfully.)

P.S. Rubio is an amnesty shill. He IS a sellout. He IS a liar.

Posted by: SamInVA at July 16, 2013 03:53 AM (Q52VH)

147 " Do we want to take back the Senate? Do we ever want to take back the White House?" What do you mean, "we"?

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at July 16, 2013 03:54 AM (zIrfB)

148 Yes Gabe, only mushy centrism gets Republicans elected.

It's true. Just look at President Romney and Senator Scott Brown.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 16, 2013 03:54 AM (QXlbZ)

149

I'm not saying it's a huge deal. It's really, really really minor crap.

But why go there?

Esp. since he's not actually Mexican.

Can't see how it's the least bit helpful.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 16, 2013 03:54 AM (SUKHu)

150 @44

err..... because sombreros ---- hats!! I meant hats!!! Please don't ban me for my racist treatment of hats!!!

Anyway, hats are racist.

Everybody knows that.

Posted by: Troll Feeder at July 16, 2013 03:54 AM (fITNi)

151 I just looked at it again. It is a sombrero. I thought it was just a tan background. I'm with Mama AJ. That is wrong.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2013 03:54 AM (SSj/B)

152 Have I got the cure for what ails ya!

Posted by: Marco Boobio at July 16, 2013 03:54 AM (3VBXw)

153 144 Posted by: Bruce at July 16, 2013 07:52 AM (7Waan) The stupidest idiocy came out of the cake hole of Jesse Jackson when he spewed that Zimmerman was not judged by a jury of his peers because they were all women. This man is a cancer on America. He and Sharpton.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:54 AM (+98Gb)

154 Somebody who follows twitter might let me know whether Gabe ever answers any of these criticisms or just dismisses us as creepy-ass crackas When he deigns to answer criticisms, it's usually the absolute worst ones that are easily dismissed by snark. He's pretty much unreadable on every level.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2013 03:54 AM (4XER9)

155
Japanese salon launches anti-ageing beauty treatment that involves letting live SNAILS crawl across your face

Snail mucus is said to contain hyularonic acid, protein and antioxidants
The new facial was invented by Tokyo's Clinical Salon and costs Â£161
Named the Celebrity Escargot Course, it also includes a massage and mask

DailyMail
https://tinyurl.com/pywtjdp

Pics at the link

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2013 03:54 AM (kdS6q)

156 126 We don't need this government. The lib client-base does. A-men

Posted by: Dale Gribble at July 16, 2013 03:55 AM (o5EA8)

157 " Take a look at his record as governor of MA to get an idea. Fought against in state tuition for illegals, fought against sanctuary cities, was one of the first governors in the country to sign up to have the state police to work with ICE. He was always anti-illegals, he didn't just come up with that position during the presidential election. " Lies. Romney was a huge supporter of sanctuary cities and then paid lip service to ending them. Like everything with Romney, you have to pay attention to what he actually did. Did he end sanctuary cities in his state? Hell no. He gave an order in the closing days of his administration (Dec 13 when he left office January 4). Romney's order was simply something he left to Gov Patrick to enforce, and of course it was rescinded. Romney did nothing but the same thing Romney always did: flip flop at the last second in the most cynical way, hoping his dishonest supporters would be able to fool dumbasses. Romney had sanctuary cities in his state for years and that was 100% his responsibility and record, just like his illegal alien lawn care crew, hired repeatedly from the same guy while pretending he had no idea. Perhaps the greatest example of Romney's dishonesty is his opposition to a national Romneycare style mandate. For about two years he explained that he only supported a state level mandate. He had his own book edited to 'clarify' that this was always what he meant. Then his USA Today column turned up showing that a national health care mandate styled on Romneycare was his own suggestion to President Obama. You just can't trust anything Romney says, and that the GOP nominated Romney shows that it has shifted far too far to the left to be the solution to this country's problems.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 03:55 AM (0a/7L)

158 So do the patrons get to dine on their escargot afterwards? Geez.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 03:57 AM (QbyMe)

159 Let me suggest that getting nasty, like the marchers did yesterday calling the base "racist" on the flimsiest of pretenses, is not a viable path to majority.

FIFY

Posted by: @JohnTant at July 16, 2013 03:58 AM (tVWQB)

160 Conservative/libertarian/republican families better get going having babies. If they don't get away from having one or two trophy babies the kids raised under expectation of government care are going to so overwhelm in numbers that we will lose elections permanently. Get married, have babies, stay married.

Posted by: Timwi at July 16, 2013 03:58 AM (pdhxN)

161 This man is a cancer on America. He and Sharpton. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 07:54 AM (+98Gb) I would LOVE to ask them what pulpit they preach from on Sunday mornings. What congregation they lead. How come, in all the years I've heard them on tv, I've never heard either one of them ever talk about salvation through Jesus Christ. I hear that's kind of a big deal to pastors/reverends.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 03:58 AM (da5Wo)

162 Threads like these make me feel really good about abandoning the Republican Party. No, wait - threads like these make me feel really good about confirming that the Republican Party abandoned me. That's much, much more accurate.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at July 16, 2013 03:58 AM (Vgn84)

163 149 I'm not saying it's a huge deal. It's really, really really minor crap. But why go there? Esp. since he's not actually Mexican. Can't see how it's the least bit helpful. Posted by: Mama AJ at July 16, 2013 07:54 AM (SUKHu) I understand your point, and since I am a member of tribe, am particularly sensitive to things racially insensitive. But I think your concern illustrates the dangers of PC and how it stifles dissent. Depicting Rubio as a drunken Frito Bandito pistolero or some such would be bad. But showing him in a sombrero and saying he's Amnesty Man is hardly hateful racist imagery. It visually makes a point though admittedly amateurish in execution. But racist? No.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 03:58 AM (+98Gb)

164

>>I thought it was just a tan background

I only noticed it because I was staring at a close up of it, squinting, trying to figure out what was wrong with it, and thinking about the other link with a sombrero in it!

So I'd guess most people wouldn't notice it at all.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 16, 2013 03:58 AM (SUKHu)

165 We can elect Republicans from now to the end of time but it will be meaningless if they can't abolish whole departments and entitlement programs, let alone have the will to do so. Abolish?? It's sad that a victory would be to quit adding them.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2013 03:59 AM (4XER9)

166 So... I sorta made a promise not to pick on Gabe anymore.

Some days are harder than others, is all I'm saying.

Viva la Mark Ruby!!! Can I say that, or is it racist?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 16, 2013 03:59 AM (BeSEI)

167 161 I would LOVE to ask them what pulpit they preach from on Sunday mornings. What congregation they lead. How come, in all the years I've heard them on tv, I've never heard either one of them ever talk about salvation through Jesus Christ. I hear that's kind of a big deal to pastors/reverends. Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 07:58 AM (da5Wo) It's on the South Side of Chicago (the baddest part of town). Reverernd Wrong's holy roller joint.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:00 AM (+98Gb)

168 Gabriel Malor: "Let me suggest that getting nasty, like the marchers did yesterday, is not a viable path to majority." - Betraying your supporters and conniving in their genocide by mass immigration and forced integration is not a viable path to gaining a lasting legislative majority, or to exercising power usefully. A party that favors the destruction of its supporters will run out of supporters, when they walk or (if they do not walk) when they are destroyed. For the base to walk out is better than for it to be destroyed. There cannot be endless loyalty up while there is no loyalty down.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 16, 2013 04:00 AM (hZKDR)

169 Â“Write from the soul, not from some notion about what you think the marketplace wants.The market is fickle; the soul is eternal'.Â” - Jeffrey Carver

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 04:01 AM (QbyMe)

170 So if showing Rubio in a sombrero is wrong, maybe we should photoshop his face on the yellow CAUTION sign with the illegal aliens running across the highway.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:01 AM (+98Gb)

171 nastiness wouldn't work for the Dems if they didn't have a strangle hold on the media. Well it wouldn't work as much.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at July 16, 2013 04:02 AM (HEa5q)

172

It must be sweeps week on the blogosphere; always some stupid shit like this to drive commenters nuts. If there's a post on circumcision or Gardisil later today you'll know I'm right.

Until some of these stupid kids of yours are scared or hungry for the first time in their pampered lives, they will vote Democrat. It's cool! There is no way the GOP gets any votes from the Dem coalition of stupid kids, rich white folks who are embarrassed about their trust fund money, and lazy-ass underclass couch taters.

Let it burn. And the GOP can jump off a bridge with McCain and Graham under each arm.

Posted by: Extra Testicles at July 16, 2013 04:02 AM (nTfyI)

173 Is it too late to make money with my line of 'creepy-ass cracka' memorabilia? I think it would be hi-larious to see a bumper sticker that says "Proud parents of a creepy-ass cracka".

Posted by: model_1066 at July 16, 2013 04:02 AM (FWbJg)

174 Re: Zimmerman Acquittal Unrest

Don't call it looting. It's "undocumented shopping."

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 16, 2013 04:02 AM (QXlbZ)

175 169 Â“Write from the soul, not from some notion about what you think the marketplace wants.The market is fickle; the soul is eternal'.Â” - Jeffrey Carver Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 08:01 AM (QbyMe) *screws eyes shut in concentration* *thinks really really hard* Tequila and tittehs. Yup, that's it. That's what I want.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:02 AM (da5Wo)

176

Malor is exhibiting the hypersensitivity that make life harder to live.

We must always avert our gaze from inconvenient truths and stay within the politically correct Narrative of charity towards the people in the shadows.

Is it so hard to own up to the fact that the Republican Cuban from Florida is shilling for policies that benefit Mexican citizens and America hating Democrats at the expense of Americans?

Posted by: Bill Gates at July 16, 2013 04:02 AM (dSE0q)

177 I was not aware that "being the adult in the room" meant letting brats tear up all the shit, doing nothing about it, trying not to offend the brats, and constantly bitching out anyone but the brats who tries to do anything. You Learn Something new Every Day. Or, alternatively, not. Yeah, there's a "deserves to lose" going on here, sadly, a lot of everyday folk just trying to live their lives lose when the "adult in the room" is a fucking wuss. Is anything serious going to be done about media personalities slandering, libeling, inciting to riot? Of course not. So they will keep doing it. That's how we got where we are today. Imma let y'all throw shit at each other while the left laughs. Peace out.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 16, 2013 04:03 AM (yoh1c)

178

"getting nasty is not a viable path to majority"

ROTFLMAO. Majority, majority! WTF! The GOP is as dead as Trayvon.

What a maroon. Germans re-elect Angela 9/22 and then the doors come off, the wheels, the axles, the paint,..

Posted by: gary gulrud at July 16, 2013 04:03 AM (uv0Aw)

179 >>So, okay. But please "splain me his state-run health care for Mass. Well I don't want to open old wounds but I will one more time. First came EMTALA. For those who aren't familiar with that law take a few minutes and read up. It was signed into law by Reagan, yes that Reagan, and forced states to treat any patient who showed up at any hospital (read virtually every hospital) that received federal funds for any reason. The kicker, there would be zero federal dollars to support this new and exciting law. Given that hospitals are one of MA's biggest industries this rapidly became a budget buster and was sending taxes through the roof. Second, you really need to understand the politics of MA. To say it is the most liberal state in the union is a vast understatement. The year before Romney was elected there was a state referendum that was heavily financed by the unions and the liberal to institute a single payer plan in MA. Yes, the first single payer plan in the state. It lost by something like 51-49%. As soon as the vote was over the liberals and unions vowed to bring it up again and again with more resources until it passed. Given that they controlled the legislature with over 80% of the vote this seemed like more than a safe bet. Third came Romney's election. Romney was forced to either come up with some solution short of the single payer or accept that the liberals and the unions would get voters they needed to get their single payer. I know this may sound like a stretch to some who don't live in MA but now that you have some experience with a government led by Obama, Reid and Pelosi perhaps you realize this was not a far fetched idea, it was going to happen. So Romney worked with the Heritage Foundation and used a plan they developed and was endorsed by guys like Newt Gingrich as a compromise. When you cut through all the noise it is not Obamacare. First, it is a state level plan, you know, federalism. Second, it only required that people who could afford insurance had to buy it rather than sucking off the rest of us who were paying for them with our taxes. Third, it had none of the odious provisions that Obamacare had for womyn's health. Yes, some of that was stuffed back in their subsequently by the legislature and Obama clone Deval Patrick but there is only so much one guy can do against a legislature and a populace that is overwhelmingly liberal. Note, I had health insurance in MA before and after Romney's plan. Nothing changed in my coverage and contra DrewM who loves to say that Romney's plan made MA health insurance some of the most expensive in the country, ah, no, it was already some of the most expensive long before Romney because MA. In fact, the cost of health insurance has risen slower in MA since Romney's plan than the rest of the country. Now them's the facts. Perfect? Nope. Anyone got a better idea that would have 1) passed in MA and is 2) better than single payer I'm all ears.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 16, 2013 04:03 AM (g1DWB)

180 176 Posted by: Bill Gates at July 16, 2013 08:02 AM (dSE0q) If they're in the shadows, I'll eat Marco's sombrero.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:03 AM (+98Gb)

181 The Dems character of us is that of a heartless bastard pushing little old ladies off a cliff, hell they use it in national TV spots. But a sombrero on one of our own, depicting where his loyalty lies, well we just can't have that.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 16, 2013 04:04 AM (Fz2C7)

182 So wait - CAC actually stands for creepy-assed cracka? It's all starting to make sense.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at July 16, 2013 04:04 AM (Vgn84)

183 In March 2006 Romney actually campaigned FOR amnesty. In January 2008 he opposed amnesty (polls shifted a lot between then, as many will recall). The same thing happened with Obamacare. Romney's initial instinct was pretty much what the democrats want, but then he would see that this is a bad position to take as a candidate and he would deny he ever held that position. "Not Â‘Moving Them OutÂ’ In 2006, Romney said regarding undocumented immigrants in this country: Â“WeÂ’re not going to go through a process of tracking them all down and moving them out.Â” Â“We should have those individuals who are here illegally begin a process-- particularly those that are unable to be here without government support or those who are involved in crime --or beginning a process of registering for a citizenship, applying for citizenship and then carrying out the process necessary to get there citizenship" Anyone saying Romney has a good record on Amnesty is a fool or a liar. Take note of who they are so you know who to take with a grain of salt in 2016 (probably when they urge us to support 'conservatives' like Rubio, Christie, Jeb).

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 04:04 AM (0a/7L)

184

J.J., you could say it's racial and not necessarily racist.

I still think that's not a great place to go.

>>So if showing Rubio in a sombrero is wrong, maybe we should photoshop his face on the yellow CAUTION sign with the illegal aliens running across the highway.

Are the illegals wearing sombreros???

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 16, 2013 04:05 AM (SUKHu)

185 Tequila Tittahs by BCochran. The next 50 Shades.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 04:05 AM (QbyMe)

186 Ace of Spades: We Don't Just Have Trolls in the Comments - We Have Them on the Front Page. All I need is for Andy to write a post about the need for stricter background checks in the wake of the Trayvon Martin trial and I'm activating the Death Blossom. Fuck it. Everybody dies.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 16, 2013 04:06 AM (JDIKC)

187 185 Tequila Tittahs by BCochran. The next 50 Shades. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 08:05 AM (QbyMe) I should trademark that shit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:06 AM (da5Wo)

188 Ah, nothing quite like starting my day with a classic Gabe Malor "adding 20-million new dirt-poor, bottom-of-the-economic-ladder Democrat Primary Voters to the electorate guarantees GOP success and if we don't do it WE'RE DOOMED!" missive. How refreshingly predictable. As if "voting GOP" brings us even the tiniest bit closer to limited, constitutional government in any case. Let it burn.

Posted by: DocJ at July 16, 2013 04:06 AM (qCk/f)

189

Part of the GOP's problem is it's lack of nastiness, it's unwillingness to paint opponents as liars and enemies of "regular Americans."

Exactly. The left is a party built on the blood of murdered babies. A party that had, as its longest serving Senator, a Klansman. A party whose current SoS engaged in actual treason. But we're supposed to sweep that all under the rug because we're "better than them."

Fuck that.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 04:06 AM (zF6Iw)

190 Why was Romney urging Obama to pass a national health care mandate after he left office, if the only reason he supported Romneycare was 'the politics of MA'? Because he's a progressive. The GOP nominated a progressive. And the sad thing is I do not think we were actually fooled. I think the GOP largely supports a pretty progressive ideology now. It's democrats vs socialists, basically.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 04:07 AM (0a/7L)

191 144 Watching some of the MFM shows last night and the fact that the jurors were NOT BLAAAAACCCCCKKKKK seem to be a recurring theme in the "sumptins gottta be done" crowd. Why doesn't the GOP bring up the issue that this crowd does not think that 6 women can provide a fair verdict? Blast the race baiters as sexists. Go after them and turn it all around to their fault!

Posted by: Bruce at July 16, 2013 07:52 AM (7Waan)

Wouldn't be nice to fight back.

Posted by: GOP at July 16, 2013 04:08 AM (AWmfW)

192 What I have seen from the Republican Party so far in the past year leads me to believe that they will never change. They are not going to change their shitty squish outlook at the national level and consequently they are not going to change the primary system.

I said at the end of the last election disaster that I have voted for my last squish and that if the Republicans did not change the primary system which favors squishes they could kiss my ass goodbye.

Well RNC, pucker up.

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 04:08 AM (lZvxr)

193

Oh, question for you creepy ass grinos on another subject (you're welcome).

In considering possible candidates for prez...

Has Gov. Jindal said or done anything you disagree with?

Not asking if you luuuv him or anything, just if he's taken stands you dislike.

(and if anyone mentions that one little speech during which he was wooden, I'll scream)

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 16, 2013 04:08 AM (SUKHu)

194 Maybe Romney will run again in 2016! LOL. He would probably win the nomination again if he did.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 04:09 AM (0a/7L)

195 184 Posted by: Mama AJ at July 16, 2013 08:05 AM (SUKHu) Mama, it's a visual symbol that means Mexico. If someone sees that and thinks it's racist, that's in their mind. They are projecting what they think the person who created the image "really" means. And that is a great explanation of liberal thought, BTW. (pats self on back)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:09 AM (+98Gb)

196 Now them's the facts. Perfect? Nope. Anyone got a better idea that would have 1) passed in MA and is 2) better than single payer I'm all ears. This is an example of what I consider the wrong course for Conservatives/Republicans, taking the fundamentally flawed plans of the Left and striving to make them almost work, at the price of your soul. If the people of MA are that far left, they should get what they want, pure leftism, good and hard. The conservatives should just leave the state.

Posted by: toby928© at July 16, 2013 04:09 AM (QupBk)

197 Or perhaps St. Tequila's Miraculous Tittahs.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 04:09 AM (QbyMe)

198 Arrrrrgh!!

Posted by: Pre-emptive Mama AJ at July 16, 2013 04:09 AM (SUKHu)

199 160 Conservative/libertarian/republican families better get going having babies. If they don't get away from having one or two trophy babies the kids raised under expectation of government care are going to so overwhelm in numbers that we will lose elections permanently. Get married, have babies, stay married. - White women cannot bear more babies than the whole of the non-white world being allowed to pour into white countries. Pro lifers used to believe in inevitable victory, because pro-life families would out-breed pro-abort families. That theory cannot work in the face of mass immigration. The left doesn't have to out-breed the right. It can win forever as it is doing, by this combination: 1. Importing a permanent majority while breaking up conservative culture and neighborhoods through the forced integration of the imported masses. 2. "Stealing" conservative-bred kids through leftist education (starting with the TV as educator). 3. Beating the right even when it is theoretically in power, due to sellout "right-wing" politicians that don't do anything for their supporters.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 16, 2013 04:09 AM (hZKDR)

200 Honestly, one day you will give up being patently dishonest to support your personal whims.

The people you've cited do not represent a majority of GOP voters. They're outliers. But feel free, as most liberals do, to disingenuously represent them as such.

And what's the allusion here? The GOP should simply give-up or fold on intellectual discussions about substantive policy issues which have a serious affect on out country because...a certain demographic does not find them favorable?

I am a little sick of the sophistry and implied prejudices. We have a very serious immigration issue which requires some very thoughtful remedies.

Quite frankly, Rubio (to name one) was patently dishonest about the entire bill he pushed which would not only make the situation worse, but ultimately represented the type of foolish, pathos based legislating a majority of this country hate. And while I don't agree with the way those few people expressed their feelings, I certainly understand the passion.

Get off your high-horse.

Posted by: Marcus at July 16, 2013 04:10 AM (GGCsk)

201 JackStraw @ 179 - that's come weapons grade brilliant summary there, amigo!

Posted by: DocJ at July 16, 2013 04:10 AM (qCk/f)

202 Lets stop playing nice and worrying about attracting new Republican voters, lets solidify our base and work to split the Dims base.

Posted by: Jean at July 16, 2013 04:10 AM (CMlD4)

203 Anyone else think that both of the Bush ex POTUSs should have blown of Jugears recent photo ops and foolish thousand pointy heads bullshit?

.......especially with all of the shite that Mr Big MomBritches is involved in of late.

That GOP that gave us those 2 turds needs to go away FAST.

And if those Rubio pics are racist then the race card is officially running on fumes.

Posted by: ontherocks at July 16, 2013 04:11 AM (IdDrM)

204 I am not sure why Ace lets Gabe concern troll us like this but that is exactly what he is doing. Click through the links and see for yourself if you can find anything half as offensive as what you see at most political rallies. Basically they are just taking Rubio to task for putting the interests of foreigners before his own constituents and before his oath. Very, very mild stuff.

Gabe is kind of like the heel in professional wrestling who is brought in to stir up the crowd in a ridiculous and over the top fashion. It works for a bit but then it gets old. If I wanted to read things that are the logical equivalent of gibberish and full of double standards I would subscribe to Rachel Jeantel's Twitter feed entitled, "That's raaaacist, you Cracka!"

BTW, I went by Althouse's blog for the first time since the election and saw she had turned off comments. I gave her up because she has some very ugly views on race so it doesn't bother me any, but I found it interesting. I notice Insty did not link to her for a long time but recently started doing that again. I guess her volume fell off when her own content had to carry the blog. You have to e-mail comments to her husband now and he publishes the ones he likes. Typical left-wing idea of how things should be run.

Posted by: Thatch at July 16, 2013 04:11 AM (qYvEa)

205 rushes to hit the Death Blossom button before EOJ

Posted by: Beefy at July 16, 2013 04:11 AM (i7B17)

206

Dang, we should have found ways to get along and sell out to King George & the British! What was wrong with us?

Posted by: Your Founding Fathers, principled non-sellouts at July 16, 2013 04:12 AM (zFUKI)

207 Shit like this Trayvon mess is going to continue until white people stop running in fear every time some race baiter starts throwing RAAAAACIST! around. They need to stand their ground and call it what it is, bullshit.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at July 16, 2013 04:12 AM (HEa5q)

208

Or perhaps St. Tequila's Miraculous Tittahs.

How about The Sisterhood of the Traveling Tequila Tittehs?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 04:12 AM (zF6Iw)

209
All I need is for Andy to write a post about the need for stricter background checks in the wake of the Trayvon Martin trial and I'm activating the Death Blossom.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff

So hoping Drew reposts his poor Trayvon blouse-rending cri from his blog over here today.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2013 04:12 AM (kdS6q)

210 I'm slightly amused at the fact that this blog not only has troll commenters, but troll cobloggers as well. Award-winning, indeed.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 16, 2013 04:12 AM (EYfcP)

211 Death Blossom? Really? Sounds like something that happens when you eat too much Taco Bell.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:12 AM (da5Wo)

212 " If the people of MA are that far left, they should get what they want, pure leftism, good and hard. The conservatives should just leave the state. Posted by: toby928Â© at July 16, 2013 08:09 AM (QupBk)" They did. Romney is a self described Progressive. It's not his fault for supporting what he believes, and it's not his fault for being nominated. And if the GOP is full of progressives (which it is), then there's nothing wrong with it supporting someone who has championed essentially socialist policies for most of his political career. The only annoying part is the lying about his views to cynically con a few extra voters, but that's what politicians do. The problem is that the entire country has shifted to the left, culturally and morally, to the point where we are actually voting for people who force you to buy health insurance via government coercion. These people are tyrants of the left, and the GOP is supporting them for President? Romney was far from the only one who was OK with this. Newt and others were as well.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 04:13 AM (0a/7L)

213 186 Ace of Spades: We Don't Just Have Trolls in the Comments - We Have Them on the Front Page.

All I need is for Andy to write a post about the need for stricter background checks in the wake of the Trayvon Martin trial and I'm activating the Death Blossom.

Fuck it. Everybody dies.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 16, 2013 08:06 AM (JDIKC)

--Sorry to my fellow Americans, but honestly I wish Teh Burn would ignite The Burning Times faster so my wife would jump off her American Dream Phantasy and go all-in with me.

Posted by: logprof at July 16, 2013 04:13 AM (3VBXw)

214 186 Fuck it. Everybody dies. I appreciate that we read this same "post" through a very thin veneer of human shit. I mean, fuck. I just had a reverse Suzanna Martinez moment if I gotta support bullshit like any of this to call myself a "Republican".

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at July 16, 2013 04:13 AM (Vgn84)

215 Has Gov. Jindal said or done anything you disagree with? Posted by: Mama AJ at July 16, 2013 08:08 AM

Leaving aside that "one little speech where he was wooden" (the Republican "response" to Choom Boy's first SotU, by the way, so it doesn't exactly qualify as "little"), I'm not aware of Jindal actually doing anything at all.

Of course I don't live in LA, so he would have had to do something pretty special -- or pretty bad -- to attract attention here at the other end of the country.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 16, 2013 04:14 AM (/RIVS)

216 208 Or perhaps St. Tequila's Miraculous Tittahs. ------------------------------ How about The Sisterhood of the Traveling Tequila Tittehs? Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 08:12 AM (zF6Iw) TittehGeddon starring Tila Tequila

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:15 AM (da5Wo)

217 TROLL: Do we want to take back the Senate? Do we ever want to take back the White House? Let me suggest that getting nasty, like the marchers did yesterday, is not a viable path to majority. I guess there's no just reason to be a part of the above 'we'. AT ALL.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at July 16, 2013 04:16 AM (Vgn84)

218 Apparently, I'm nowhere as sensitive to "gleeful nastiness" and "rascist" buttons and t-shirts as Gabe is. I fail to see what he is on about.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 16, 2013 04:16 AM (BAS5M)

219

Hmmm....racist? I fail to see how questioning a Senator's loyalty to America is racist especially since he is in league with Reid and Obama.

The "nastiness" is crass, but not racist.

FWIW, I believe there must be reform, but painting people who question any reform as racist is just as irresponsible.

We already have too many people with no allegiance to this country within our borders. I call them "Liberals".

Posted by: West Town at July 16, 2013 04:16 AM (ZpHS7)

220 BTW, I went by Althouse's blog for the first time since the election and saw she had turned off comments. I gave her up because she has some very ugly views on race so it doesn't bother me any, but I found it interesting. I notice Insty did not link to her for a long time but recently started doing that again. I guess her volume fell off when her own content had to carry the blog. You have to e-mail comments to her husband now and he publishes the ones he likes. Typical left-wing idea of how things should be run.

Posted by: Thatch at July 16, 2013 08:11 AM (qYvEa)

Althouse had a lot of great commenters , now she went full little green football.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at July 16, 2013 04:17 AM (AWmfW)

221

>>Of course I don't live in LA, so he would have had to do something pretty special -- or pretty bad -- to attract attention here at the other end of the country.

Well, Walker and Perry have both made statements about amnesty that have dissed some gruntles.

I don't think Jindal has...which gives me hope...

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 16, 2013 04:17 AM (SUKHu)

222 TittehGeddon starring Tila Tequila

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 08:15 AM (da5Wo)

TITTEHNADO!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 04:17 AM (zF6Iw)

223 216 TittehGeddon starring Tila Tequila Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 08:15 AM (da5Wo) Titteh-NADO! Bigger, Badder, Boobier! With the aureola of doom.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:17 AM (+98Gb)

224 So hoping Drew reposts his poor Trayvon blouse-rending cri from his blog over here today. If he does, it will be a cropdusting post just like Malor's. Not enough balls to duke it out in the comments.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2013 04:17 AM (4XER9)

225 Uncontrolled immigration has made it harder for Republicans to get elected, therefore the GOP needs even more uncontrolled immigration. I like this kind of logic!

Posted by: Fox Butterworth at July 16, 2013 04:17 AM (29vnO)

226 Morning all. So all them Rino Republicans in the Senate who kissed up to reid and the dems....great job. They are going to fuck you anyway by removing the filibuster for some Presidential Nominations. You fuck heads. Hey any former or present Seabees here?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2013 04:18 AM (9Xc5j)

227 "Could it be the gleeful nastiness that so many like to display?" No. If gleeful nastiness caused voters to stop voting, establishing a nice third party would be easy, and no one would vote Democrat. Evidence is to the contrary. Hate and contempt (do I really need to give examples?) wins votes.

Posted by: ErisGuy at July 16, 2013 04:18 AM (wqv11)

228 The GOP is run much like our country is run. We put ourselves at a disadvantage with the competition. We go to war with rules, we over tax, we put stiff environmental on ourselves. Too many stupid rules and laws. Can't be on a level playing field because we are stepping on our own dicks.

Posted by: Case at July 16, 2013 04:18 AM (o00SF)

229 Pretty ironic that those that are honoring Trayvon, the yute with pics of piles of stolen jewely and burglar tools, show solidarity by looting a Walmart.

Posted by: ontherocks at July 16, 2013 04:18 AM (IdDrM)

230 207 Shit like this Trayvon mess is going to continue until white people stop running in fear every time some race baiter starts throwing RAAAAACIST! around. They need to stand their ground and call it what it is, bullshit. - And call out the "anti-racists" as anti-white. Which they are.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 16, 2013 04:18 AM (hZKDR)

231 222 TITTEHNADO! Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 08:17 AM (zF6Iw) DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:18 AM (+98Gb)

232

Even some good conservatives don't understand the Zimmerman case was not about SYG.

I quickly cleared that up for a few yesterday.

Posted by: Marybeth at July 16, 2013 04:19 AM (zFUKI)

233 209 All I need is for Andy to write a post about the need for stricter background checks in the wake of the Trayvon Martin trial and I'm activating the Death Blossom. Posted by: Empire of Jeff Is that like one of those Blooming Onions Ooooo...I like those.

Posted by: waldo at July 16, 2013 04:19 AM (cjFRv)

234 TittehLanche A band of Playboy model assassins take out their targets by smothering them with their breasts. Starring Corey....shit...which one is still alive?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:19 AM (da5Wo)

235 >> All I need is for Andy to write a post about the need for stricter background checks in the wake of the Trayvon Martin trial and I'm activating the Death Blossom. Hahahaha. I should do that as a gag post just to get the spittle flying.

Posted by: Andy at July 16, 2013 04:20 AM (li+aS)

236 Don't tell me -- the linked button is "racist" because it makes Gabe all butthurt in a way he doesn't like.

Posted by: Ace's Anus at July 16, 2013 04:21 AM (wWrHp)

237 Racist? No, Gabe. Not even close.

It's difficult for me to read your posts (specifically including your "I told you so" diatribe) in good faith when you publish stuff like this. I'm on your team with getting the state completely out of marriage (go ahead, purists, denounce away) but the condescension with which you write won't win you any friends or the GOP any votes.

For a guy lecturing 'his' party on how best to win votes, you don't seem to have grasped the idea that looking down the bridge of your nose and denouncing voters with whom you disagree as racist (who else does that?) isn't the best way to go about doing it.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 04:21 AM (fwARV)

238 Damn those old white racists picking on St. Marco. The Republican party should get hip to the demographic changes in the USA and begin seriously pandering to illegal aliens. Screw the millions of American citizens who are without jobs or have only part time work. Secure borders are racist.

Amnesty will not be enough, either. Republicans need to see and raise the bet on every Democrat proposal for more free shit for more non-citizens.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 16, 2013 04:21 AM (ymovd)

239 234 TittehLanche A band of Playboy model assassins take out their targets by smothering them with their breasts. Starring Corey....shit...which one is still alive? Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 08:19 AM (da5Wo) The Jewish one. Zimmerman.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:21 AM (+98Gb)

240 : ontherocks at July 16, 2013 08:11 AM (IdDrM)

The Bush ex presidents where paraded in front of the news media to show how old and decrepit they were, and by extension how old white decrepit the GOP is, and how young and virile Obama is.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 16, 2013 04:21 AM (etwBI)

241 204 I am not sure why Ace lets Gabe concern troll us like this but that is exactly what he is doing. You actually read the content here?

Posted by: RWC at July 16, 2013 04:21 AM (fWAjv)

242 220 BTW, I went by Althouse's blog for the first time
since the election and saw she had turned off comments. I gave her up
because she has some very ugly views on race so it doesn't bother me
any, but I found it interesting. I notice Insty did not link to her for a
long time but recently started doing that again. I guess her volume
fell off when her own content had to carry the blog. You have to e-mail
comments to her husband now and he publishes the ones he likes. Typical
left-wing idea of how things should be run.

Posted by: Thatch at July 16, 2013 08:11 AM (qYvEa)

Althouse had a lot of great commenters , now she went full little green football.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at July 16, 2013 08:17 AM (AWmfW)

You got a problem with that, friend-o?

Posted by: Cahrlse Jhnosno at July 16, 2013 04:22 AM (3VBXw)

243

106 Not to mention that there is nothing racist nor nasty about those buttons. Pulling it out of your ass again, disingenuousGabe.

This. I realize Gabe isn't worried about illegal aliens stealing his job, but those of us left in the blue collar world are. Fuck that sellout, back stabbing piece of crap Rubio.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at July 16, 2013 04:22 AM (Yx4EH)

244 225 Uncontrolled immigration has made it harder for Republicans to get elected, thereforethe GOPneeds even more uncontrolled immigration. I like this kind of logic! - The Republican establishment wants someone who thinks like you to be President. They also think anyone to the right of them should sacrifice his or her interests for the common good of the Republican Party, while they the establishment don't play good losers sacrificing for the cause but undermine and purge with zeal.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 16, 2013 04:22 AM (hZKDR)

245 Althouse had a lot of great commenters , now she went full little green football. Posted by: Temper Tantrum at July 16, 2013 08:17 AM (AWmfW) Hell, the commenters were the only reason to go to Althouse. It's not like she ever really added anything insightful to her posts. And when she did, she usually got blasted. I left when she got away from the near no-holds-barred comments policy. It's a shame to hear she's got a stranglehold on the comments now...but not surprising.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2013 04:22 AM (4XER9)

246 Gabe is suffering from garbage envy.

Posted by: Beefy at July 16, 2013 04:22 AM (i7B17)

247 The Jewish one. Zimmerman. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 08:21 AM (+98Gb) Ah. Well, at least the movie would be well funded. Are there Orthodox tittehs? Any special steps necessary?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:22 AM (da5Wo)

248 OOH, lots of hand wringing going on here today.
This is not a struggle between Republicans and Democrats, as they are one and the same; or left versus right, as they are one and the same. It is a struggle between the center and the extreme.
We are the common enemy.

Posted by: Artruen at July 16, 2013 04:23 AM (fDGF1)

249 Tittehlanche: How I Learned to Love the Motorboating of Death.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 04:23 AM (QbyMe)

250 @209 Gabe = Xur?

Posted by: Gran at July 16, 2013 04:23 AM (mw0FO)

251 Test

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at July 16, 2013 04:23 AM (QH36x)

252 247 Ah. Well, at least the movie would be well funded. Are there Orthodox tittehs? Any special steps necessary? Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 08:22 AM (da5Wo) Two piece bathing suits to separate the meat from the dairy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:23 AM (+98Gb)

253 247 Ah. Well, at least the movie would be well funded. Are there Orthodox tittehs? Any special steps necessary? Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 08:22 AM (da5Wo) Two piece bathing suits to separate the meat from the dairy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:23 AM (+98Gb)

254 Maybe we have problems attracting new voters because of the simpering cuntwhistles who declare us all "anti-civil rights" whenever they don't get their cookie. Nah, that can't be it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 16, 2013 04:24 AM (ZshNr)

255 Maybe those "marchers" aren't for reals.

Posted by: Sarahw at July 16, 2013 04:24 AM (LYwCh)

256 Fifth grade math: Extremist Doing fifth grade math about healthcare: Ageist or something. Pointing out bad policy: Nasty Killing a live baby is killing a live baby: Misogynist Defending six thousand years of the definition of marriage: Homophobe And the grandaddy of them all: If you hold the chief executive accountable for the safety of the employees of his branch of the government you are...all together now....RACIST I'm tired of the idea that we have to elastic on every belief. That's why the leftards cannot be consistent on anything.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 16, 2013 04:25 AM (659DL)

257 " Republicans need to see and raise the bet on every Democrat proposal for more free shit for more non-citizens. Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 16, 2013 08:21 AM (ymovd)" What liberals tell College Republicans in political science class is that the smartest way to position yourself is just to the right of the democrats. That way, you get all the conservatives and as many moderates as possible. What the charts they show them do not calculate is the price of proving you have no principles as a political party. With no principles, and no core, there is no leadership, no courage, and no vision. So there's no future and no one with heart really wants to support the party. The people who the GOP is short changing actually do matter, so screwing them in hopes of picking up some people on the leftmost front is very stupid. That's why Romney was crushed by Obama, the weakest presidential candidate in American history, with a terrible record. Sincerity and leadership go hand in hand.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 04:25 AM (0a/7L)

258 254 Posted by: Lincolntf at July 16, 2013 08:24 AM (ZshNr) Wasn't he the bass player for the Who? John Cuntwhistle?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:25 AM (+98Gb)

259 253 Getting troll busted for no reason Posted by: Y-not on the phone at July 16, 2013 08:24 AM (QH36x) Hide posts from (QH36x) You've picked up a troll IP on your phone. Soothie has that happen to him all the time. Or THE TROLL IS COMMENTING FROM YOUR HOUSE! GET OUT!

Posted by: toby928© at July 16, 2013 04:26 AM (QupBk)

260 Morning all. So all them Rino Republicans in the Senate who kissed up to reid and the dems....great job. They are going to fuck you anyway by removing the filibuster for some Presidential Nominations. You fuck heads. Hey any former or present Seabees here? Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2013 08:18 AM (9Xc5j) Right now it would be to remove the 60-vote threshold for cloture on non-judicial nominations (it would change to 51). Not that this would keep Reid from sooner or later getting rid of it for all nominations, then motions to proceed, then to end debate on legislation. As Vic mentioned above, it takes 67 to change the rules in the middle of a Congress. So they're going to break the rules to change the rules.

Posted by: Vendette at July 16, 2013 04:26 AM (yrR4Z)

261 Could someone tell troll buster it's nailing the wrong person? Y-not

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at July 16, 2013 04:26 AM (QH36x)

262 coÃ±o Marco

Posted by: blanker at July 16, 2013 04:26 AM (qQk+U)

263 Heh JJ, now I have to go listen The Who, or it'll be in the back of my head all day.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 16, 2013 04:26 AM (ZshNr)

264

A band of Playboy model assassins take out their targets by smothering them with their breasts.

Nice, but it's been done: Deadly Weapons - 1974, starring Chesty Morgan as an ad exectutive who tracks down the mobsters who killed her boyfriend, smothering them to death with her breasts.

Double Agent 73 - also 1974, also with Chesty Morgan as a secret agent with a camera implanted in her left breast. She coats them with poison to kill one man who, thinking she's his girlfriend, motorboats her.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 04:26 AM (zF6Iw)

265 260 Could someone tell troll buster it's nailing the wrong person? Y-not Posted by: Y-not on the phone at July 16, 2013 08:26 AM (QH36x) Hide posts from (QH36x)

Posted by: toby928© at July 16, 2013 04:27 AM (QupBk)

266 There are people who believe in being Nice all the time? Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 07:45 AM (da5Wo) Sort of. The Cult of Nice is the proposition that the most important thing to do is to make sure that no one is upset or offended in any way and that any criticism, however mild, is presented in the most ingratiating manner possible. It's placing in primary position the goal of everyone get along all the time even if that means that no one gets to have any opinions on anything ever. As you can well imagine, I have no patience for the Cult of Nice. Why? Because it's not really about being nice or being polite or being adult enough to comprehend that people disagree and to move on. It's about suppressing dissenting views. For example, I used to belong to some online writing groups where my political beliefs were in the minority, to put it mildly. Almost invariably, someone would make some snotty comment about the reich wing or the like. When I would respond, I was the one in the wrong for upsetting the community and injecting strife into the discussion. It's just not nice, you see. Pointing out that I was pushing back engendered the response that the other person may have been wrong but there was no reason why I couldn't let it roll off my back. It's about allowing those who are nasty to get away with it. Now, there's nothing wrong with being polite. I agree wholeheartedly that public political discussion can use far more politeness. But once one side throws common decency out the window, it's a fool's game not to engage at least somewhat. I'll repeat, when the other side stops telling me that I am not really a woman, that I am not really queer, that I am a cretin, that I am a racist, that I am subhuman, that I do not exist, then I will listen to propositions regarding raising the level of discourse. But until then? You shove me, I will shove back. If you don't like it? Then don't push me first.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 16, 2013 04:27 AM (VtjlW)

267 People have a tendency to get "nasty" when they are repeatedly lied to, ignored and treated like they are stupid. There's only so much pushing one can take before they strike back.

==

This is a great point. Rubio was the straw that broke the camel's back for a lot of people. His stance and teaming up with the odious pr*ck, Schumer, did it for me. It really brought home the reality that I can't trust even those I trusted in the GOP. We've been the "adults in the room," but this country is now full of children. I'm sick and tired of being called names, sick and tired of seeing liberals act like insane lunatics while I'm supposed to sit calmly and watch them froth and take over my country. I don't advocate for throwing feces and acting in kind. But there comes a point where we have to start fighting back. And if that means coming out of our comfort zones, within reason, so be it. We're losing this country. Somebody better start doing something.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2013 04:27 AM (NjuQa)

268 Y-not is trapped in the Phantom Zone.

Posted by: toby928© at July 16, 2013 04:28 AM (QupBk)

269 Y-not, contact Andy on twitter (@AndyM1911) and tell him. He seems to be the one that gets results the fastest.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 16, 2013 04:28 AM (X6akg)

270 Ooh "simpering cuntwhistles." I like that. Good one.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 16, 2013 04:28 AM (pUAXu)

271 If the Donks get their 20 million new voters we won't need to worry about the GOP. This will be a one party country. And the Donks will be able to go full-ass commie.

Posted by: Case at July 16, 2013 04:28 AM (o00SF)

272 The problem with the "lesser of two evils" game that the GOP likes to play is that you, occasionally, have to give the base a candidate, or they begin to figure out the game, and it's been a long time since Reagan held office.

Posted by: DFCtomm at July 16, 2013 04:28 AM (8JUmX)

273 We send our regards.

Posted by: Rand and Marco Lannister at July 16, 2013 04:28 AM (mw0FO)

274 All of you pups who never saw The Last Starfighter... Get off my lawn. Seriously, though - we have a cob-logger who applauds the overturning of a state's constitutional amendment by an unelected panel of judges, who also favors importing tens of millions of illegal aliens, who will ensure a permanent Democrat-controlled government... IS IT APPROPRIATE TO QUESTION GABE'S CONSERVATISM, YET?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 16, 2013 04:28 AM (JDIKC)

275 Nice, but it's been done: Deadly Weapons - 1974, starring Chesty Morgan as an ad exectutive who tracks down the mobsters who killed her boyfriend, smothering them to death with her breasts. Double Agent 73 - also 1974, also with Chesty Morgan as a secret agent with a camera implanted in her left breast. She coats them with poison to kill one man who, thinking she's his girlfriend, motorboats her. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 08:26 AM (zF6Iw) Very nice, but see, I'm talking about a team of assassins. Their preferred method is to lure the victim in with promises of orgiastic pleasure, then, in the midst of such actions, smother him.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:28 AM (da5Wo)

276 259 Posted by: Vendette at July 16, 2013 08:26 AM (yrR4Z) Then end-game is to make the Senate a plaything of the Executive branch, if it isn't already. They are really trying to destroy every legitimate vestige of our government before 2014. If this is not revolution-worthy, I don't know what is. I'm game if a few million of you out there are too.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:28 AM (+98Gb)

277 And in funner real life news, a panel of our drop ceiling in the lab has caved in. Seems we have a nasty roof leak. Yay.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 16, 2013 04:29 AM (pUAXu)

278 The Vampire Titteh Diaries of Tequila Flats.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 04:29 AM (QbyMe)

279 274 Help me too, Mr. Wizard ! Posted by: blanker at July 16, 2013 08:29 AM (qQk+U) Hide posts from (qQk+U)

Posted by: toby928© at July 16, 2013 04:29 AM (QupBk)

280 Artruen - haven't seen that handle in forever. Welcome back!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 16, 2013 04:30 AM (JDIKC)

281 Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 16, 2013 08:27 AM (VtjlW) Sounds a lot like Drew's views on Zimmerman. The Cult of Nice is still trying to find some blame to lay at the feet of someone who was getting his head bashed in on the street.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2013 04:30 AM (4XER9)

282 >>"Not Â‘Moving Them OutÂ’ In 2006, Romney said regarding undocumented immigrants in this country: Â“WeÂ’re not going to go through a process of tracking them all down and moving them out.Â” Â“We should have those individuals who are here illegally begin a process-- particularly those that are unable to be here without government support or those who are involved in crime --or beginning a process of registering for a citizenship, applying for citizenship and then carrying out the process necessary to get there citizenship" This is one reason why its kind of pointless to argue politics on blogs. Nothing changed in Romney's call for a path to citizenship. Go home, go to the back of the line and reapply. People pick out one partial soundbite and think they've found a gotcha. Dumb. But by all means lets hold Perry to the same standard. We can forget his candidacy right now without having to twist soundbites.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 16, 2013 04:30 AM (g1DWB)

283 For those of us old enough to remember...every single mainstream analysis of Ronald Reagan said he was too extreme. There is a lesson to be learned for those who are willing. (PLEASE SIT THE HELL DOWN MR. SANTORUM. RONALDUS MAGNUS WAS LIKEABLE.)

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 16, 2013 04:30 AM (659DL)

284 275 The Vampire Titteh Diaries of Tequila Flats. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 08:29 AM (QbyMe) Quick! Suck out the poison!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:30 AM (+98Gb)

285 Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 16, 2013 08:27 AM (VtjlW) Hmmm....hmmm...yes...nice...be nice........ What's that? Oh, I'm sorry, I was calibrating the webcam. Nice boots btw.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:30 AM (da5Wo)

286 What pisses me off is it's intellectually dishonest.

We can agree to disagree on the issues. That's fine and the essence of good argumentation. Provided it is fact based, the conclusions are intellectually substantive and ultimately devoid of personal bias.

But extrapolating select situations and making broad assertions contrary to fact is both mendacious and foolish. It's not even entertaining and no, it won't keep me coming back. Quite the contrary.

I don't always agree with Ace. But one can usually determine how his conclusions were derived. He generally walks through the thought process. If there is doubt, he'll pose a question. Perhaps even engage someone in the comments.

But this is pure tripe, bordering on propaganda. I get enough of that in the media. It's actually ignoratio elenchi.

Posted by: Marcus at July 16, 2013 04:31 AM (GGCsk)

287 Wait, so Gabe says some protest some Repubs had yesterday that nobody noticed is hurting us? So, what about the racist mobs screaming, looting and calling for violence the past couple days that are 99% Democrat? Is all the crazed Democrat anti-Zimmerman, anti-white, anti-American nutjobbery gonna hurt them?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 16, 2013 04:32 AM (ZPrif)

288 "Let me suggest that getting nasty, like the marchers did yesterday, is not a viable path to majority. "

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 07:01 AM

First, to pretend that the vast majority of illegals are some undefined ethnic group is stupid. The problem isn't Canadiens or Poles...it's the porous Southern border and millions of Hispanics.

Second, the era of gentleness is over. That some Republicans are belatedly recognizing it is a good thing, because the Dems have known it for a generation.

I would argue that getting nasty is EXACTLY the path to majority.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2013 04:32 AM (gqgiP)

289 Ann Althouse now has her own "Downfall" http://goo.gl/Sc1BG

Posted by: waldo at July 16, 2013 04:32 AM (cjFRv)

290 283 It's actually ignoratio elenchi. Posted by: Marcus at July 16, 2013 08:31 AM (GGCsk) Cursing with a Mexican dialect is racist.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:32 AM (+98Gb)

291 Then end-game is to make the Senate a plaything of the Executive branch, if it isn't already. They are really trying to destroy every legitimate vestige of our government before 2014. If this is not revolution-worthy, I don't know what is. I'm game if a few million of you out there are too. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 08:28 AM (+98Gb) It's also to make it run more like the House. A number of the senators who are backing this are former House members who have never experienced life in the minority in the Senate, when you learn really fast to love things like 60 votes for cloture.

Posted by: Vendette at July 16, 2013 04:32 AM (yrR4Z)

292 You shove me, I will shove back. If you don't like it? Then don't push me first.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 16, 2013 08:27 AM (VtjlW)

It's truly too bad that you and I are both vaginatarians. Your words are melodious aphrodisiacs...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 04:33 AM (fwARV)

293 275 The Vampire Titteh Diaries of Tequila Flats. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 08:29 AM (QbyMe) TV idea: Top Tits - 16 female contestants compete to determine who has the Top Tits

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:33 AM (da5Wo)

294 285 I would argue that getting nasty is EXACTLY the path to majority. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2013 08:32 AM (gqgiP) Robert Bork from the afterlife phoned. He wants to say... THIS.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:33 AM (+98Gb)

295 You know, Gabe, we could have avoided fighting the nazis and Japanese Imperialists by simply adopting their policies. Right? Would have saved us WW 2.

Posted by: maddogg at July 16, 2013 04:33 AM (OlN4e)

296

(PLEASE SIT THE HELL DOWN MR. SANTORUM. RONALDUS MAGNUS WAS LIKEABLE.)

But the GOP also had Lee Atwater, a man who wasn't afraid to kick Democrats in the balls. Now we have pallid homunculi like Rove who only look to make sure their pasty, flabby, pockmarked asses never have to miss a Georgetown soiree.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 04:34 AM (zF6Iw)

297 <i>Hell, the commenters were the only reason to go to Althouse. It's not like she ever really added anything insightful to her posts. And when she did, she usually got blasted.

I left when she got away from the near no-holds-barred comments policy. It's a shame to hear she's got a stranglehold on the comments now...but not surprising.</i>
<b>Posted by: Burn the Witch</b>

Ironically, she used to open comments when she would guest-post for Insty.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 16, 2013 04:34 AM (ymovd)

298 Nice boots btw.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 08:30 AM (da5Wo)

~~And that lovely fringe of lace is~~ How dare you invade her privacy like that!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2013 04:34 AM (gqgiP)

299 It's truly too bad that you and I are both vaginatarians. Your words are melodious aphrodisiacs... Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 08:33 AM (fwARV) That's actually not technically accurate.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:34 AM (da5Wo)

300 I am beyond tired of being sneered at by this or that self appointed member of the intelligentsia. I have three degrees in Computer Science, including a Masters, so I am neither dumb nor uneducated. Hell, I can even do math, although it's much easier right now during sandals' season. We have a whole class of people who believe whatever the media tells them. I saw a well spoken successful Black man and his geeky bespectacled son practicality in tears last night on the Scott Smelley evening news because now thanks to the heinous Zimmerman acquittal, Whites can now murder Black teenagers at will. You want to worry about buttons and GOP protesters being big meany pants, go the hell ahead...get back to me when they are pooping on cops cars and raping the women amongst them undet the benign eyes of the media.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 16, 2013 04:34 AM (rHyVV)

301 The problem isn't Canadiens or Poles... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2013 08:32 AM (gqgiP) Blasted Quebecois hockey players sneaking in through Vermont!

Posted by: Vendette at July 16, 2013 04:35 AM (yrR4Z)

302 290 TV idea: Top Tits - 16 female contestants compete to determine who has the Top Tits Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 08:33 AM (da5Wo) SNL did it in 1978. "Battle of the T & A Stars."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:35 AM (+98Gb)

303 The Democrats win by handing out free shit and demonizing their opponents. Hell, they even demonize their opponents' offering free shit. Who hasn't heard a liberal whine about "unfunded prescription drug benefit"? And yet they win.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2013 04:35 AM (4XER9)

304 IS IT APPROPRIATE TO QUESTION GABE'S CONSERVATISM, YET?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 16, 2013 08:28 AM (JDIKC)

Now that gay marriage is essentially a done deal, I expect all the GOProud types to stop even pretending on any issue except, maybe, taxes.

I need Monty's Doom posts to have something to read in the AM.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at July 16, 2013 04:35 AM (29vnO)

305 As usual, you need to click the links, because Gabe is misrepresenting what they actually say.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 16, 2013 04:35 AM (4T5lL)

306 Then end-game is to make the Senate a plaything of the Executive branch, if it isn't already. Again, there was a time when the Congress jealously defended its constitutional turf. Robert Byrd was an opportunist hack, but he was always on guard for the Senate. The Watergate Select Committee was created via a unanimous Senate resolution. And on and on. Harry Reid might as well be on the White House payroll.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 16, 2013 04:36 AM (659DL)

307 SNL did it in 1978. "Battle of the T & A Stars." Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 08:35 AM (+98Gb) I promise that Moron Horde Productions could do it far, far better.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:36 AM (da5Wo)

308 Trayvon Martin Friend: ItÂ’s Spelled Â“CrackaÂ” And ItÂ’s Not RacistÂ… According to Rachel Jeantel you can add an Â“aÂ” to the end of any word to make it non-racist. The nu anglish i'z ges

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2013 04:36 AM (9Xc5j)

309 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 08:33 AM (+98Gb)

He was a great man.

Ever read his essay on the martini?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2013 04:36 AM (gqgiP)

310 The Democrats screaming anti-white shit since the GZ acquittal would seem to be acting in a not-nice way with the burning and punching and threatening racial violence -- is that gonna cost them the majority?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 16, 2013 04:36 AM (ZPrif)

311

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 08:33 AM (fwARV)

Poor MWR. Like the summer rain, Nearsider's infatuation was quick and ephemeral.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 04:37 AM (zF6Iw)

312 300 Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2013 08:35 AM (4XER9) They win by offering free shit because the people who love getting free shit do not comprehend that it ISN'T free. Crack that nut and you win the cookies.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:37 AM (+98Gb)

313 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 16, 2013 08:35 AM (4T5lL)

#1 is a bit tacky, but not over the line. #2 and #3 are fine.

But I knew that before I clicked. Gabe is hyperventilating.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2013 04:37 AM (gqgiP)

314

"Let me suggest that getting nasty, like the marchers did yesterday, is not a viable path to majority."

But venting the spleen is so much fun! And it establishes my authenticity!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at July 16, 2013 04:37 AM (hLRSq)

315 306 He was a great man. Ever read his essay on the martini? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2013 08:36 AM (gqgiP) Will have to check that out, as well as his last book.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:38 AM (+98Gb)

316 GOProud never had anything to do with bringing a conservative message to the LGBTQ'ers, it was all about bringing the gay message to conservatives. A more useless PAC has never existed. Don't need you, don't want to hear you, get the fuck out.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 16, 2013 04:38 AM (ZshNr)

317 Yesterday I overheard 2 women talking about St. Trayvon. One was white, the other white-ish. The gist of the conversation was "I didn't really follow the trial and don't really know much about the facts of the case. But damn it I'm so pissed that Zimmerman was acquitted". This country is fucked beyond repair.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 16, 2013 04:39 AM (T4UGA)

318 Poor MWR. Like the summer rain, Nearsider's infatuation was quick and ephemeral. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 08:37 AM (zF6Iw) Naw, apparently all she needs to do is show up in VA and acquire a Louisville Slugger from me. At least that's the sense I got yesterday.

Posted by: Vendette at July 16, 2013 04:39 AM (yrR4Z)

319

Tell you what, Gabe.

You just go ahead and vote wherever your heart leads. We'll do the same.

Posted by: Bigby's Golf-Clapping Hands at July 16, 2013 04:39 AM (3ZtZW)

320 I'm activating the Death Blossom.

Nice "The Last Starfighter" reference.

Posted by: GMan at July 16, 2013 04:39 AM (sxq57)

321 I shook some maracas after drinking a few margaritas the other night. Guess I'm a racist.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 16, 2013 04:39 AM (1EJ2w)

322 305 Trayvon Martin Friend: ItÂ’s Spelled Â“CrackaÂ” And ItÂ’s Not RacistÂ… According to Rachel Jeantel you can add an Â“aÂ” to the end of any word to make it non-racist. The nu anglish i'z ges Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2013 08:36 AM (9Xc5j) That makes everything sound Italo-American, in an offensive, Mrs. Manicotti sort of way. Ba fangoul.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:39 AM (+98Gb)

323

Hope like hell Allen West runs against that little prick Rubio.

And I may have just the campaign material for him.

Remember that pic of Crist hugging Obama here in Ft Myers? Rubio used that ruthlessly and you just KNOW he got tons of mileage out of it.

West needs to hoist him on his own petard - with pics of Rubio and Schumer laughing together.

Don't know if it will be as effective, although every time I saw those pics my blood got boiling.

Posted by: Marybeth at July 16, 2013 04:39 AM (zFUKI)

324 >> Could someone tell troll buster it's nailing the wrong person? Done. We only believe in nailing the right people around here.

Posted by: Andy at July 16, 2013 04:40 AM (li+aS)

325 If a sombrero is racist, how about depictions of Stars and Stripes which are recognizably American? I bet I could find some progressive that thinks that is racist, so is this the new set of proposed politeness rules we will be required to abide by?

Posted by: kurtilator at July 16, 2013 04:40 AM (juh4Z)

326 That's actually not technically accurate.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 08:34 AM (da5Wo)

Doesn't matter.

The word "vaginatarian" is now in the vernacular, and we are all better for it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2013 04:40 AM (gqgiP)

327 314 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 16, 2013 08:39 AM (T4UGA) You're about the 10th person that has recanted that exact experience to me. So we are fucked by that order of magnitude.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:41 AM (+98Gb)

328 I was barely aware some Repubs had a protest yesterday. I was aware of all Democrats on TV having a fucking hissy fit over St. Skittles and threatening mob violence against white people. Which party is the nasty party?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 16, 2013 04:41 AM (ZPrif)

329 Poor MWR. Like the summer rain, Nearsider's infatuation was quick and ephemeral.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 08:37 AM (zF6Iw)

Hey now. Just because you're on a diet doesn't mean you can't look at the menu.

Naw, apparently all she needs to do is show up in VA and acquire a Louisville Slugger from me. At least that's the sense I got yesterday.

Posted by: Vendette at July 16, 2013 08:39 AM (yrR4Z)

Yes, please.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 04:42 AM (fwARV)

330 @20. This. Period. Re the OP, condescending and poorly interpreted.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 16, 2013 04:42 AM (X/+QT)

331 YGBFKM

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at July 16, 2013 04:43 AM (XvrTA)

332 313 GOProud never had anything to do with bringing a conservative message to the LGBTQ'ers, it was all about bringing the gay message to conservatives. A more useless PAC has never existed. Don't need you, don't want to hear you, get the fuck out. Posted by: Lincolntf at July 16, 2013 08:38 AM (ZshNr) What about a pro 2nd amendment PAC to join the Dems? Destroy them from within. yeah, sure.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:43 AM (+98Gb)

333 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 08:38 AM (+98Gb)

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/176729/judge-bork-martinis/kathryn-jean-lopez

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2013 04:43 AM (gqgiP)

334

Gabe, tell me again about those polite and civil and respectful t-shirts the left proudly wore referring to Sarah Palin?

Oh, yeah.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 16, 2013 04:43 AM (BAS5M)

335 Why don't Trayvon Martin's parents call for an end to the violence? Oh yeah, they are profiteering from it.

Posted by: IpoopBlood at July 16, 2013 04:43 AM (sykiw)

336 The word "vaginatarian" is now in the vernacular, and we are all better for it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2013 08:40 AM (gqgiP)

I'm glad to see my work is appreciated :-)

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 04:43 AM (fwARV)

337 Testing

Posted by: blanker at July 16, 2013 04:43 AM (qQk+U)

338 Someone get Vic some fiber STAT.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at July 16, 2013 04:43 AM (Vgn84)

339 "Dumb. But by all means lets hold Perry to the same standard. We can forget his candidacy right now without having to twist soundbites. Posted by: JackStraw at July 16, 2013 08:30 AM (g1DWB)" Perry isn't that great. Granted, he's a hell of a lot better than Romney. Smarter, more successful as governor by a massive margin, and much more honest, better on immigration and the government mandate, but also better on gun rights and much better on fiscal leadership. Still, he kinda falls short. Sanctuary cities are a great example, but there are a few others. The GOP could do better, but it is very unlikely to. The reason it won't support Perry is because he is essentially 95% conservative with less than five bona fide screw ups over the last decade + of executive leadership. The GOP is not conservative. It nominated a progressive, Romney, so the GOP is progressive. The whole country is progressive. The real focus for conservatives is either secession for sane states like Texas or figuring out a way to turn the culture around so that conservatism can make a come back. Romney isn't being held to any sort of unfair standard... it's not his fault he loves socialist policies. he didn't force us to nominate him.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 04:44 AM (0a/7L)

340 318 I shook some maracas after drinking a few margaritas the other night. Guess I'm a racist. Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 16, 2013 08:39 AM (1EJ2w) Oh dear Lord. Did anyone get pics? Video? Tell me, where they nice? A handful?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:44 AM (da5Wo)

341 "GOProud never had anything to do with bringing a conservative message to the LGBTQ'ers, it was all about bringing the gay message to conservatives." Reminds me of when Gabe posted links to GOProud's platforms and over half of them were worded fiscally conservative but centered on Getting Shit For Teh Gheys. He would follow it up with "See? Those are conservative principles! They're on our side!!" GOProud has since updated its platforms to sound less pandering, but the sentiment is still there.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2013 04:45 AM (4XER9)

342 Hola, you're an idiot.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 16, 2013 04:45 AM (ZshNr)

343 Romney didn't even want to run for President. What a freaking tool to put his family through hell and not want it enough to fight for it.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 04:45 AM (0a/7L)

344

I remember reading some examples of political writing in the 18th-19th centuries. If Gabe is this upset over a button, than what passed for political discourse in a time more contemporary to the Founding would have positively given him the vapors.

Posted by: @JohnTant at July 16, 2013 04:46 AM (eytER)

345 The Vicious Vodka Vaginatarians????

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 04:47 AM (QbyMe)

346 Yep, remember how McCain said Obama was a nice man we had nothing to fear from -- and the Dems responded by saying McCain was a senile, racist warmonger and Palin was an evil retarded cunt? I remember it. I don't remember the Democrats losing due to "nastiness" in 2008. Or 2012.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 16, 2013 04:47 AM (ZPrif)

347 Done. We only believe in nailing the right people around here.

Posted by: Andy at July 16, 2013 08:40 AM (li+aS)

That's just what they tell you!

Posted by: Jesus at July 16, 2013 04:48 AM (AWmfW)

348 "Hola, you're an idiot. Posted by: Lincolntf at July 16, 2013 08:45 AM (ZshNr)" Nah, you just have your feelings hurt because your precious Romney is accurately called out. I see this a lot from Obama and Romney fans, who see politics as some kind of opportunity to fawn over a politician. Don't get sensitive. None of these politicians are worth getting so upset over. It's pathetic. And you know it's pathetic... that's why you didn't say 'hey, Hola, this is the point where you were wrong'. Instead, you just said 'leave Romney alone you stupidhead'. Trust me... I do not want praise from progressives and am not staying up at night wondering if you like me.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 04:48 AM (0a/7L)

349
to stop even pretending on any issue except, maybe, taxes.
Posted by: somebody else, not me

Not even taxes nowadays. Recall from the most recent tax bill how Team Republican when all-in on how refusing to raise taxes on the upper brackets was wrong/evil/racist/sexist and what not.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2013 04:48 AM (kdS6q)

350

Gabe, tell me again about those polite and civil and respectful t-shirts the left proudly wore referring to Sarah Palin?

Breeders and hicks with funny accents aren't deserving of Gabe's notice.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 04:49 AM (zF6Iw)

351 Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 08:44 AM (0a/7L)

As I recall Perry fought the sanctuary city bill in TX tooth and nail and was overruled by the State legislature.

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 04:49 AM (lZvxr)

352 335 Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 08:44 AM (0a/7L) No one - NO ONE - is perfect as a candidate. There will be some baggage, policy disagreements and worse Tardisil moments and flip-flops (the latter are worse by far). That said, we have to fight for the best candidate possible. Perry has got blemishes for sure. But he was better by far than Romney and would have got the nod had it not been for his pain-killer addled debate performances. The establishment is against us. We have to overcome their money, their primary schedules and everything else to get who WE want. Let's do it this time, whoever the candidates may be.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:49 AM (+98Gb)

353 You can usually tell when someone is losing the argument - they scream "Racist!" While I may understand your uncomfortable feelings with the t-shirt and the button, what is wrong with the sign the woman is holding from Ohio? She juxtaposed ole-jug ears with Rubio. Liberals have watered down the meaning and importance of words in order to sway public opinion. I guess our side is doing it now too.

Posted by: DrEviler at July 16, 2013 04:49 AM (VtutD)

354 Is Gabe fucking serious? The people who are doing us no favors are the "Gang of 8" and the people who are pushing amnesty. This stuff is shedding voters for the rest of the party.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 04:49 AM (bb5+k)

355 Do we have a moby/troll amongst us this morning?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:50 AM (da5Wo)

356 Looks like O'Mara and West reached out to Mas Ayoob to be an expert witness. No wonder he has been silent on the case. In fact, I donÂ’t take expert witness cases until IÂ’ve seen all the evidence, and the prosecution was extremely slow in providing that. I wound up not being involved. However, having been retained by one of the defendantÂ’s lawyers and consulted with another, I felt bound by confidentiality and did not think it would be professional to comment directly on the matter from then on.

Posted by: RWC at July 16, 2013 04:50 AM (fWAjv)

357 335
"Perry isn't that great. Granted, he's a hell of a lot better than Romney. Smarter, more successful as governor by a massive margin, and much more honest, better on immigration and the government mandate, but also better on gun rights and much better on fiscal leadership."

*****

If you're completely schooled on the reasons the TEA party got started in Texas, in Austin, and the cronyism and corruption of Perry Inc. you will spit on that son of a bitch if he walks by. Billions in missing public monies. Texas voted for Cruz by double digits over a Perry/Dewhurst machine that cheated by ten points. .

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at July 16, 2013 04:50 AM (VWfCN)

358 Courting New York Muslims, Democrat candidates raced to guarantee Muslim votes. Â“The Muslim community is on the political map in New York,Â” Quinn said. Â“The days of ignoring the interests and the significance of this community, those days are over.Â” Liu, who has repeatedly visited Muslim groups, followed. Â“Assalamu Alaikum,Â” he said, offering the customary Arabic greeting. Â“With a lot of hard work, inshallah, we will win this election and we will change this city.Â” Yet, the warm messages were not enough to break the ice with American Muslims, targeted be police surveillance over the past two years. The community was already aggrieved when Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg vetoed a Council recommendation to add two Muslim holidays to the school calendar. In an appeal for support, Quinn said she would close schools for those holidays. Â“So if you get elected, we can count on that?Â” Naji Almontaser, an American citizen born in Yemen, asked. Â“Oh, absolutely. Absolutely,Â” she responded. Someone should tell this ignorant gay twit quinn that ramadan lasts a full month. And the bitch wants to close schools? Stupid whoring scrunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2013 04:50 AM (9Xc5j)

359 341 The Vicious Vodka Vaginatarians???? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 08:47 AM (QbyMe) Give me exactly those words, but spelled with the letter "M" and it goes in my daily countdown!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:51 AM (+98Gb)

360
Liberals have watered down the meaning and importance of words in order to sway public opinion. I guess our side is doing it now too.

Posted by: DrEviler at July 16, 2013 08:49 AM (VtutD)

No. Still just the liberals.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 04:51 AM (fwARV)

361 The side screaming "racist" may be losing the argument in your eyes -- but they aren't losing the elections, so it seems to be working.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 16, 2013 04:51 AM (ZPrif)

362 Yep, remember how McCain said Obama was a nice man we had nothing to fear from -- and the Dems responded by saying McCain was a senile, racist warmonger and Palin was an evil retarded cunt?

I remember it. I don't remember the Democrats losing due to "nastiness" in 2008. Or 2012.

--

Bingo.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2013 04:52 AM (NjuQa)

363 354 Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2013 08:50 AM (9Xc5j) Don't gripe. If it keeps their spawn out of our schools, our kids won't have to bow down to their crap.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:52 AM (+98Gb)

364 "Gabe, tell me again about those polite and civil and respectful t-shirts the left proudly wore referring to Sarah Palin?" Hell, the left can write books about assassinating a Republican president, give it a great review in their flagship Paper of Record, but some old guy at a rally we didn't even know about is turning away all those voters that were on the cusp of voting GOP. Gabe is completely aware of the vitriol and hatred publicly expressed by leftards who are much higher profile than this Old Dude At A Rally, so I'm guessing there were some other sentiments expressed there that were aimed at an exponentially smaller demographic.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2013 04:52 AM (4XER9)

365 What do I care if the party that nominates a guy like Mitt Romney has little power? I really don't see why such a principle-free organization matters. Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 07:06 AM (0a/7L) This.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 04:53 AM (bb5+k)

366 People in the republican nest are way to eager to settle for corrupt politicos.
"He was better than Romney..."
bullshit
Enough already.

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at July 16, 2013 04:53 AM (VWfCN)

367 I see this a lot from Obama and Romney fans, who see politics as some kind of opportunity to fawn over a politician. Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 08:48 AM (0a/7L) That's the problem with the horde. The constant bootlicking they give politicians. Politicians can do no wrong they say. It's a daily occurence. SMH

Posted by: RWC at July 16, 2013 04:53 AM (fWAjv)

368 " Ironically, she used to open comments when she would guest-post for Insty. Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 16, 2013 08:34 AM (ymovd)" What amuses me about Althouse is that her comments were a much bigger part of her life than they are for pretty much any other blogger I know of. She even married one of her commenters. but if she doesn't want to have a comment section that's cool. Popular comment sections are either like this blog's where you have degenerate level jokes like 'beavis, i said cuntwhistle, huhu huhuhuh', or you wind up endlessly policing the threads of a million issues. Personally, I would prefer the former approach as no normal person has enough time for the latter, but I think not having a comment section at all works fine too. Her blogging on its own is kinda lame when it doesn't provoke a threadwar, though.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 04:53 AM (0a/7L)

369 This is what too much tequila will do at a party...
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/the-unclouded-mind-Xue-Wang-01.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 04:54 AM (QbyMe)

370 Democrats calling us misogynist, racist, xenophobic homophobes = VICIOUS LIES Republicans calling the Left traitorous, Communist, anti-freedom backstabbers = VICIOUS TRUTHS

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:54 AM (+98Gb)

371 I am not sure how to put an 'M' on any of that J.J. Sefton....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 04:55 AM (QbyMe)

372 Time to pee then to the gym. Later, kids.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:55 AM (+98Gb)

373 I agree with Gabe. While the buttons aren't all that bad, the MSM will twist them to be worse than Hitler. We all know this is how it works. And yes there is a double standard. And yes the Dems/Libs are 1000X worse. But it doesn't matter. We have to be 1000X more caeful with the shit we say. It's unfair, it's life.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 16, 2013 04:55 AM (T4UGA)

374 Â“With a lot of hard work, inshallah, we will win this election and we will change this city.Â”

--

Hmm. NYC and muslims changing the city. There's some kind of irony there. Let me see if I can put my finger on it....

/changing times

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2013 04:55 AM (NjuQa)

375 So our side has to be 100% nice, down to random old dudes at a rally -- and their side can have elected Democrats scream slurs at us in the NYT? That's how we are gonna --- win elections? Sounds like bringing skittles to a gun fight.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 16, 2013 04:55 AM (ZPrif)

376

>>ve me exactly those words, but spelled with the letter "M" and it goes in my daily countdown!

Just put "VVV" in there and tell people that if they turn the monitor upside down, the W looks like an M.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 16, 2013 04:56 AM (SUKHu)

377 "That's the problem with the horde. The constant bootlicking they give politicians. Politicians can do no wrong they say. It's a daily occurence. SMH Posted by: RWC at July 16, 2013 08:53 AM (fWAjv)" LOL. What the real problem is is that many will pick politicians they will bootlick, like Palin or Romney or Perry, and then freak out when they are accurately characterized for their fuck ups. Only a person with no character would pretend to take this to mean that the commenters bootlick all politicians as a class. It should be embarrassing for a so-called conservative to emulate the adoration Obama fans have for their politician.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 04:56 AM (0a/7L)

378 This site just gets stupider and more useless. Like the GOP and it's coterie of concern trolls on their long death march migration leftwards. Being a winging pussy hoping that a few stray idiots (who have been told since 2005 that you are virtually a nazi) might like you better if you just chuck a few more of those old GOP platform planks into the swamp, is not being the adult in the room. It's just being someone unconvincingly pretending to the be adult in the room. Can't you be a clueless, embarrassingly gullible failure without continuously blaming people who already turned their backs on you and gave up on you, for the cumulative consequences of your own much repeated fuck ups?

Posted by: Cakefinger at July 16, 2013 04:56 AM (OsCtd)

379 Do we have a moby/troll amongst us this morning?

We do almost every morning. His name is Gabe.

Posted by: GMan at July 16, 2013 04:56 AM (sxq57)

380 lizz winstead is correct: Hiring Rachel Jeantel as a regular on The View would be awesome!

Posted by: waldo at July 16, 2013 04:56 AM (cjFRv)

381 365 This is what too much tequila will do at a party... http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/the-unclouded-mind-Xue-Wang-01.jpg Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 08:54 AM No, THIS is what too much tequila will do at a party. http://tinyurl.com/mpbfvtb NSFW

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 04:56 AM (da5Wo)

382 367 I am not sure how to put an 'M' on any of that J.J. Sefton.... Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 08:55 AM (QbyMe) I was funnin' you. ;-{ ) (Is my Frito Bandito 'stache racist?)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:56 AM (+98Gb)

383 Democrats calling us misogynist, racist, xenophobic homophobes = VICIOUS LIES Republicans calling the Left traitorous, Communist, anti-freedom backstabbers = VICIOUS TRUTHS Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 08:54 AM (+98Gb) But when they control all media, it's only what THEY say, which matters.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 04:57 AM (bb5+k)

384

Speaking of Althouse, has anyone ever seen Gabe and Garage Mahal in the same room?

Posted by: Extra Testicles at July 16, 2013 04:57 AM (nTfyI)

385 Suffered through Maddow last night...the Madcow insists that all the hate after the verdict came from the right. All of it. These people are like the ghosts in The Sixth Sense...they only see what they want to see. Madcow clearly needs to add Twitchy (for starters) to her reading list. Suffered through Piers Morgan for the Jeantel interview. Is it me or does she keep calling Don West "Don Weston?" She's so marble-mouthed, it's hard to tell. Jeantel sure does say "mind you" a lot though. That I could understand.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at July 16, 2013 04:57 AM (7ObY1)

386 Hmm. NYC and muslims changing the city. There's some kind of irony there. Let me see if I can put my finger on it....

Seems to me that Muslisms already changed the city. The removed some buildings...

Posted by: GMan at July 16, 2013 04:58 AM (sxq57)

387 My immediate impression after clicking on the links was that Gabe was being sarcastic. The general opinion here is that he wasn't. Really?

Posted by: Starlj at July 16, 2013 04:58 AM (HUoKY)

388 377 Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 08:56 AM (da5Wo) Second from left has a wicked bod. The one on the extreme left will screw your lights out!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 04:58 AM (+98Gb)

389 I don't know who this Hola is. But everything he writes comes off like a total prick.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 16, 2013 04:58 AM (ZPrif)

390 hat's the problem with the horde. The constant bootlicking they give politicians. Politicians can do no wrong they say. It's a daily occurence.

I believe all politicians are scum, or at minimum, some class of weasel.
It's baked into the position.

Posted by: RolandTHTG at July 16, 2013 04:58 AM (QM5S2)

391 We have to be 1000X more caeful with the shit we say. It's unfair, it's life. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 16, 2013 08:55 AM (T4UGA) No, we have to ATTACK AND DESTROY THE MEDIA WEAPON WHICH IS BEING USED AGAINST US. Thinking you can stop them from twisting your words by being careful is delusional idiocy.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 04:58 AM (bb5+k)

392 379 But when they control all media, it's only what THEY say, which matters. - Which is why Instapundit's idea that the right should campaign on repealing the Hollywood tax cuts is correct.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 16, 2013 04:58 AM (hZKDR)

393 38 So if nasty politics doesn't win perhaps you could explain how liberals do it every damn day and win.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 16, 2013 07:12 AM (g1DWB)

Because they own the media, they own the news and they own the education system. We don't.

Posted by: Heralder at July 16, 2013 04:59 AM (+xmn4)

394 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 16, 2013 08:55 AM (T4UGA)

--

Completely disagree. Nothing we do or say will change the spew coming from the MSM. Only when we forcefully start calling them out and telling them flat out what disingenuous liars they are will others start to...maybe...take notice. This cowering in the MSM shadows thing has got to stop.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2013 04:59 AM (NjuQa)

395 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 16, 2013 08:55 AM (T4UGA) Bullshit. If the GOP "cleans up its act", the Dems and the Media (BIRM) will just fabricate it. Also, the tactic you support has only resulted in failure. Don't be like the GOP and ignore results.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2013 04:59 AM (4XER9)

396 Andy, What happened to the weekly podcast roundtable, where the rest of you were talked over by Gabe for 43 of 45 minutes?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 16, 2013 04:59 AM (BXtvT)

397 It's truly too bad that you and I are bothvaginatarians. Your words are melodious aphrodisiacs... Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 08:33 AM (fwARV) Now, now, now, that is not precisely true. I am omnivorous.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 16, 2013 04:59 AM (VtjlW)

398 383 My immediate impression after clicking on the links was that Gabe was being sarcastic. The general opinion hereis that he wasn't. Really? Posted by: Starlj at July 16, 2013 08:58 AM (HUoKY) You new here?

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 16, 2013 04:59 AM (X6akg)

399 Completely disagree. Nothing we do or say will change the spew coming from the MSM. Only when we forcefully start calling them out and telling them flat out what disingenuous liars they are will others start to...maybe...take notice. This cowering in the MSM shadows thing has got to stop. Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2013 08:59 AM (NjuQa) __________________ They two are not mutually exclusive. You can fight the MSM while not saying stupid shit (or wearing stupid buttons to rallies).

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 16, 2013 05:00 AM (T4UGA)

400

But Gabe is the only coblogger here who correctly called the 2012 White House race. The only one of about 12. Remember ? Oh, how certain the rest all were.

So I listen to him with half an ear.

Posted by: Extra Testicles at July 16, 2013 05:00 AM (nTfyI)

401 387 No, we have to ATTACK AND DESTROY THE MEDIA WEAPON WHICH IS BEING USED AGAINST US. - Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts! For starters. And if the "right-wing" party would never do that, it has to be replaced with a party that will.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 16, 2013 05:00 AM (hZKDR)

402 Suffered through Piers Morgan for the Jeantel interview. Is it me or does she keep calling Don West "Don Weston?" She's so marble-mouthed, it's hard to tell. Jeantel sure does say "mind you" a lot though. That I could understand.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at July 16, 2013 08:57 AM (7ObY1)

I really appreciated her explaining the difference between 'ni--a' and 'ni--er.' That was helpful.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 05:00 AM (fwARV)

403 Just an idle thought, but I seem to recall some measure of "nastiness" being levelled at opponents of gay "marriage" at various rallies. Did Malor ever call them out, or, for that matter, even go looking for it?

Posted by: @JohnTant at July 16, 2013 05:00 AM (eytER)

404 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 08:58 AM (+98Gb)

This is the kind of trenchant analysis that makes AOSHQ the best political blog on the internet.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2013 05:01 AM (gqgiP)

405 "That said, we have to fight for the best candidate possible. Perry has got blemishes for sure. But he was better by far than Romney and would have got the nod had it not been for his pain-killer addled debate performances. The establishment is against us. We have to overcome their money, their primary schedules and everything else to get who WE want. Let's do it this time, whoever the candidates may be. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 08:49 AM (+98Gb)" I mean no disrespect... I identify with where you are coming from and was recently right there. But no. I will not support a candidate who lacks principles and won't fight tooth and nail balance the budget. If the GOP manages to nominate a conservative, I will fight for him, but if they don't, I will not. Romney was the last one and the GOP has lost me as a partisan. And yeah, Perry is not that bad in some ways. You have to admit he fumbled the ball a lot and would have been torn up by Obama, right? I would be thrilled if the GOP nominated someone that conservative, but the sophists in the GOP will pretend he's somehow less conservative than Romney. Same thing will happen in 2016. The conservatives will be torn apart by the progressive Republicans... I don't see how that would work if the entire country hadn't shifted enormously to the left over the past 40 years.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 05:02 AM (0a/7L)

406 Now, now, now, that is not precisely true. I am omnivorous.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 16, 2013 08:59 AM (VtjlW)

I'll concede the point, but my logic was still sound. Plus, I got to slip 'vaginatarian' into the conversation.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 05:02 AM (fwARV)

407 Second from left has a wicked bod. The one on the extreme left will screw your lights out! Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2013 08:58 AM (+98Gb) I'm saying all four can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch and flutter their tongue faster than a hummingbird's wings. And after a couple tequila shooters, won't mind either/both.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 05:02 AM (da5Wo)

408 Did Malor ever call them out, or, for that matter, even go looking for it?

Are you kidding? He was too busy getting fitted for his assless chaps.

Posted by: GMan at July 16, 2013 05:02 AM (sxq57)

409 The real tragedy of St Trayvon is they never got around to do the Flipper remake of a boy and his Manatee.

Meanwhile the black kid that actually is a hero after rescuing the kidnapped little girl might get his 15 minutes if he's lucky.

You can't stir sheeple up and herd them into the streets with a story like that.

Too bad his parents aren't financially rewarded like the divorced couple currently reaping grievance booty when the only thing that they had in common was a live thug son that neither wanted.

Posted by: ontherocks at July 16, 2013 05:03 AM (IdDrM)

410 While the buttons aren't all that bad, the MSM will twist them to be worse than Hitler. Oh FFS, the buttons could have a photo of Rubio's petting a lamb and the media would twist them to be worse than Hitler. The media and simpering GOP cuntwhistles (thanks Linc) are the problem, not the goddamn buttons.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at July 16, 2013 05:03 AM (rSIYI)

411 Looks like BCochran is fully recovered from his bday illness.

Bazinga, Bazonga, bazookas!

LOL J.J. Sefton - VViolent VVodka VVaginiatarians?? Can thank Mama AJ for the suggestion.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 05:03 AM (QbyMe)

412 My immediate impression after clicking on the links was that Gabe was being sarcastic. The general opinion hereis that he wasn't. Really? Posted by: Starlj at July 16, 2013 08:58 AM (HUoKY) When it comes to stupid things being said by people ostensibly on our side, my sarcasm meter has been broken for a long time. I can simply no longer tell the difference when people are pushing stupidity or pretending to push stupidity.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 05:03 AM (bb5+k)

413 And after a couple tequila shooters, won't mind either/both.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 09:02 AM (da5Wo)

After?????

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 05:03 AM (fwARV)

414 Ok, the Garage Mahal = Gabe comment made me laugh.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2013 05:04 AM (4XER9)

415

>>ve me exactly those words, but spelled with the letter "M" and it goes in my daily countdown!

The Malignant Mind-Altering Beverage Muffdivers.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 05:04 AM (zF6Iw)

416

394 You new here?

I've been reading for years, generally prefer to lurk, but this has me genuinely confused. Those pictures were extremely mild, especially in light of what we've been seeing in Texas lately. I can't believe he wasn't being snarky. But I'll reconsider. You guys are pretty sharp. Maybe I'm just a little dull this morning.

Posted by: Starlj at July 16, 2013 05:04 AM (HUoKY)

417 Hey Gabe, quick question: at what point are you going to get sick of your boss, your government coworkers, and your dates calling your family and classmates and friends back home racist, homophobic, inbred Nazi Bible-beating hicks? Or do you just not care as long as the money is good and you're getting some?

Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at July 16, 2013 05:05 AM (Hi24w)

418 Poor MWR. Like the summer rain, Nearsider's infatuation was quick and ephemeral.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2013 08:37 AM (zF6Iw)

I am heartbroken. Truly heartbroken. Along comes a shiny new object, and in a shot I have been abandoned.

*woe*

Speaking of, Nearsider? I sent you an email.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 16, 2013 05:05 AM (4df7R)

419 After????? Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 09:03 AM (fwARV) Well, before you might actually have to encourage and talk them into it. After, they've be volunteering. "O..M..G....do you know what would be sooooo fun and hot right now???"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 05:05 AM (da5Wo)

420 It's truly too bad that you and I are bothvaginatarians. Your words are melodious aphrodisiacs... Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 08:33 AM (fwARV) Now, now, now, that is not precisely true. I am omnivorous. Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 16, 2013 08:59 AM (VtjlW) ------------------ And now I'm going to beat my dick like a White Hispanic.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 16, 2013 05:05 AM (BXtvT)

421

>>Suffered through Piers Morgan for the Jeantel interview.

Did she explain whether she meant "creepy-ass cracker" or "creepy ass-cracker"?

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 16, 2013 05:06 AM (SUKHu)

422 Oh kami!! EoJ is going full Trayvon on Willie....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 16, 2013 05:06 AM (QbyMe)

423 "Oh FFS, the buttons could have a photo of Rubio's petting a lamb and the media would twist them to be worse than Hitler. " ++++++++++++++++ You really don't see how button showing Rubio wearing a green/red/white sombrero cam be construed as racist? Come on.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 16, 2013 05:06 AM (T4UGA)

424 Speaking of, Nearsider? I sent you an email.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 16, 2013 09:05 AM (4df7R)

Why, yes. Yes you did. :-)

I do hope things improve for you at the work place. Your morning sounds horribly frustrating.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 05:07 AM (fwARV)

425 And now I'm going to beat my dick like ~~a White Hispanic~~ it owes me money. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 16, 2013 09:05 AM (BXtvT) My personal fav. But +10 for the topical reference.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 05:07 AM (da5Wo)

426 And now I'm going to beat my dick like a White Hispanic.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 16, 2013 09:05 AM (BXtvT)

*sidles up to EoJ* How YOU doin'?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 16, 2013 05:07 AM (4df7R)

427 Which is why Instapundit's idea that the right should campaign on repealing the Hollywood tax cuts is correct. Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 16, 2013 08:58 AM (hZKDR) I have long been in favor of doing this, and going even further. I believe we should have long ago been using the power of government to hurt and damage our left wing media people. Repeal their tax cuts, tax their royalties, cut their copyright durations, and anything else we can think of to both reduce their influence and make them think worse of government riding people's asses.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 05:07 AM (bb5+k)

428 They two are not mutually exclusive. You can fight the MSM while not saying stupid shit (or wearing stupid buttons to rallies).

--

And if we don't wear stupid buttons to rallies? They'd make it up. We've seen it repeatedly. It doesn't matter. So we fight back and slam them with whatever we have. Proof of their violence, proof of their intolerance, etc. We constantly and relentlessly speak out about what they partake in. We don't crouch down in the corner hoping they'll be nice to us. We effing fight.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2013 05:08 AM (NjuQa)

429 Well, before you might actually have to encourage and talk them into it. After, they've be volunteering.

"O..M..G....do you know what would be sooooo fun and hot right now???"

osted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 09:05 AM (da5Wo)

Girls like that? No way, man. They'd convince you that you were doing them a favor by letting them.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 05:08 AM (fwARV)

430 417 Did she explain whether she meant "creepy-ass cracker" or "creepy ass-cracker"? - It's creepy-ass cracka, cracka. Also she corrected everybody on the n-word, but since white people still aren't allowed to say it who cares.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 16, 2013 05:08 AM (hZKDR)

431 I do hope things improve for you at the work place. Your morning sounds horribly frustrating.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 09:07 AM (fwARV)

You have no. Fucking. Idea.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 16, 2013 05:08 AM (4df7R)

432 News dump up.

Posted by: @JohnTant at July 16, 2013 05:08 AM (eytER)

433 Because they own the media, they own the news and they own the education system. We don't. Posted by: Heralder at July 16, 2013 08:59 AM (+xmn4) And we should have, long ago, started working to remedy this situation. Glenn Reynolds doing PJMedia, and Glenn Beck doing "Blaze" are about the only efforts of which I know being made in this area. It's long past time we should have bought media access and fired all the liberal bastards working there.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 05:09 AM (bb5+k)

434 Republicans are constantly playing catch up because:

1. The Democrats own the news media lock stock and barrel.

2. The Democrats own the entertainment industry almost totally.

3. The Democrats own the print news media lock stock and barrel but thankfully it is in decline.

4. The Democrats own the government bureaucrats almost totally.

So what do the Republicans own?

A footstool at the RNC used to kiss the Democrats ass with and a couple of semi-conservative newsletters like NRO.

Conservatives have a couple of blogs.

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 05:09 AM (lZvxr)

435 You have no. Fucking. Idea.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 16, 2013 09:08 AM (4df7R)

It sounds awful. :-(

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 05:09 AM (fwARV)

436 OMG. People making fun of Rubio. A button with a Mexican flag background. Quelle horreur! Sorry Gabe. We could organize campaigns to bus people here from Mexico, drop the pro-life platform, work for social justice, and organize Free Shit For The Hood days and we'd maybe, maybe, get 2% of the LIV vote to switch. The GoP is that demonized by the media. Plus, 40% of the base would stay home. There are two options. One, a little common sense populism and relentlessly staying unified on message. Demonize the core Democratic constituencies and poke fun at Dem hypocrisy . Do all that cool shit Breitbart did so well. Explain to blue collar workers that 15 million new legal Mexicans are going to do them dry wagewise. The other option, LiB.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at July 16, 2013 05:09 AM (ZWvOb)

437 Girls like that? No way, man. They'd convince you that you were doing them a favor by letting them. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 09:08 AM (fwARV) *shrugs* The road traveled isn't the point. The destination is.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 05:09 AM (da5Wo)

438

Did she explain whether she meant "creepy-ass cracker" or "creepy ass-cracker"?
-

It's like "Eats Shoots and Leaves" for the illiterate set.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 16, 2013 05:09 AM (4df7R)

439 And I was expecting to see an actual racist sign. Silly me. So Rubio, when discussing amnesty, mentions Hispanics almost exclusively, a lot of whom come from Mexico. Therefore a button in Spanish with Ribios face and the Mexican flag is racist. Got it. /s

Posted by: Chique d'afrique at July 16, 2013 05:10 AM (r+7wo)

440 Figures new post up right after posting.

Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2013 05:10 AM (lZvxr)

441 Fresh dump up.

Posted by: johnd01 at July 16, 2013 05:10 AM (ukNFU)

442 The more I hear from that jeantel interview I see there is very little hope for America. There will always be this violent, anti-intillectual, ignorant sub class. G-D help us all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2013 05:11 AM (9Xc5j)

443 It sounds awful. :-(

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 09:09 AM (fwARV)

Terrible. You know how it is. And no way to vent my frustration that's not going to get me fired.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 16, 2013 05:11 AM (4df7R)

444 423 Which is why Instapundit's idea that the right should campaign on repealing the Hollywood tax cuts is correct. - I have long been in favor of doing this, and going even further. I believe we should have long ago been using the power of government to hurt and damage our left wing media people. Repeal their tax cuts, tax their royalties, cut their copyright durations, and anything else we can think of to both reduce their influence and make them think worse of government riding people's asses. - Diogenes' Lamp shines bright and true.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 16, 2013 05:11 AM (hZKDR)

445 There will always be this violent, anti-intillectual, ignorant sub class.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2013 09:11 AM (9Xc5j)

For me, it isn't so much that the sub-class exists, it's that that sub-class CELEBRATES their violence and ignorance.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 05:12 AM (fwARV)

446 This cowering in the MSM shadows thing has got to stop. Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2013 08:59 AM (NjuQa) It cost George HW Bush the election, and gave us Clinton, it cost Bob Dole the election and gave us Clinton, it cost John McCain the election and gave us Stupid ass, and it cost Mitt Romney the election and gave us Stupid ass II. It is long past time that we took a sledgehammer to Liberal control of the media. The first thing you do is to STOP COOPERATING WITH THEM! Call them out every single time.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 05:12 AM (bb5+k)

447 I'll concede the point, but my logic was still sound. Plus, I got to slip 'vaginatarian' into the conversation. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at July 16, 2013 09:02 AM (fwARV) True, true. Bad MWR's workplace, bad! *smacks it on nose with rolled up newspaper*

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 16, 2013 05:12 AM (VtjlW)

448 Do I understand that the author of this thread thinks Republicans should continue with the Mr Niceguy approach to the Democrats Scorched Earth approach that has been so successful in the past (ex: Mitt Romney)? I am for getting nasty.

Posted by: AnnaS at July 16, 2013 05:12 AM (5zvOr)

449 Bad MWR's workplace, bad! *smacks it on nose with rolled up newspaper* Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 16, 2013 09:12 AM (VtjlW) Channeling your inner Brit Hume this morning?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 16, 2013 05:13 AM (da5Wo)

450 I pondered commenting about 377 several times, then remembered wifey peruses comments here occasionally. 377 > 365. I'll leave it at that.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at July 16, 2013 05:14 AM (Vgn84)

451 Bullshit. If the GOP "cleans up its act", the Dems and the Media (BIRM) will just fabricate it. Also, the tactic you support has only resulted in failure. Don't be like the GOP and ignore results. Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2013 08:59 AM (4XER9) I see many of us are on the same page. To be fair to Mr. Moo Moo, I think he's pretty much referring to what Akins and Murdouck did. On those two cases, I agree with him. They should have known better than to say such a stupid, easily twistable thing.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 05:14 AM (bb5+k)

452 You really don't see how button showing Rubio wearing a green/red/white sombrero cam be construed as racist? Come on.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 16, 2013 09:06 AM (T4UGA)

--What "race" wears a big-ass sombrero ("big-ass" modifier necessary since "sombrero" just means "hat")?

Posted by: V at July 16, 2013 05:15 AM (3VBXw)

453 And yeah, Perry is not that bad in some ways. You have to admit he fumbled the ball a lot and would have been torn up by Obama, right? Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 09:02 AM (0a/7L) If Perry had said "Hello", the media would have reported it as a foolish gaff, and Obama's response ("Hello") would have been called "Brilliant." It's partisan propaganda. They call the game in their favor every time.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 05:17 AM (bb5+k)

454 " Call them out every single time. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 09:12 AM (" Yep. Newt's redeeming feature was that he always did this. Imagine if a principled conservative did. Not a dumbass like Bachmann, but someone like Scott Walker just calling the media out on every false premise and loaded BS question. 'You guys are campaigning for the democrat right now' should be a theme in just about every response to just about ever MSM comment or question.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 05:19 AM (0a/7L)

455 Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 09:09 AM (bb5+k)

I agree, but it'll take time, even generations.

Posted by: Heralder at July 16, 2013 05:21 AM (+xmn4)

456 "It's partisan propaganda. They call the game in their favor every time. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 09:17 AM (bb5+k)" Perhaps if Perry handled that bias more aggressively and convincingly he would have overcome his flaws, but I think he was a little too slow on his feet for that. It's stupid that the skillset you need to navigate the media is what really matters, not the skills you need to lead a state prosperously. Honestly the core solution in my view is a cultural realization of how morally bankrupt it is to leave our kids in this much debt. That's my one big thing. Shifting the culture will take a miracle.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 05:22 AM (0a/7L)

457 I find the Rubio Amnesty Ass shirts hilarious and well deserved!

There needs to be one of McAsshole too.

Posted by: TexBob at July 16, 2013 05:23 AM (6S4Ai)

458 It's stupid that the skillset you need to navigate the media is what really matters, not the skills you need to lead a state prosperously. Honestly the core solution in my view is a cultural realization of how morally bankrupt it is to leave our kids in this much debt. That's my one big thing. Shifting the culture will take a miracle. Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 09:22 AM (0a/7L) It is an unfortunate side effect of the fact that elections are popularity contests, not expressions of competence.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 16, 2013 05:25 AM (bb5+k)

459 @ 179 The problem with the whole "Romney was cornered and had no choice and his successors added all that bad crap" narrative, is, Romney says the opposite-- it is a great success and a model for the country.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at July 16, 2013 05:25 AM (zIrfB)

460 "The problem with the whole "Romney was cornered and had no choice and his successors added all that bad crap" narrative, is, Romney says the opposite-- it is a great success and a model for the country. Posted by: Chris_Balsz at July 16, 2013 09:25 AM (zIrfB)" Exactly. No one ever believed that Romney was forced into the progressive stuff he always finds his way to, but if they did, they would have to acknowledge that Romney supported a ton of it, indeed the worst of it, after he was out of the Governor's office and on his 5-6 year presidential campaign. I never hear an answer as to why Romney supported Romneycare being nationalized. For a while, before the campaign heated up and proof came out, Romney's supporters actually denied he did this at all. Now it's more like 'la la la I can't hear you'. I held my tongue until the general election because I wanted Obama to lose, but really, the worst thing about that election was that the GOP was totally neutered as a force for conservative reform. The GOP nominated Hillary Clinton, basically.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 05:33 AM (0a/7L)

461 456 The GOP nominated Hillary Clinton, basically. - Hillary Clinton made more of a pitch for working class white votes in the primary than Romney did in the general. Of course she would would have sold out all those supporters after getting elected. But Romney would have too, as Ryan is making clear.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 16, 2013 05:40 AM (hZKDR)

462 Physician heal thyself indeed! When a couple of months ago I took to task OregonMuse and other commenters for their bigoted statements against Hinduism(admittedly in a rather harsh manner) ,I was chastised for overreacting and asked to disprove those particular claims My first instinct was to respond by asking the poster to disprove that he didnt rape his son but I refrained! Then I was ridiculed about my musing about abandoning the Republican party because of this lot's hardon for Churchill and their excusing his gloating over the deaths of 5million Indians during WWII(through famines which he partially engineered) Now what do you expect? That minorities would come running towards you with open arms in a open lily field with "Why do birds suddenly appear" ringing in the background? With such conservatives, Im not surprised you have managed to lose blacks,Cubans,Koreans and Indians to the Democrats but Im surprised you hung on to them in the first place There is no end to the treachery,deciet,lies,demogoguery and underhanded tactics of the Democrats who will do anything included create bloody Civil wars(hot in 1861 and cold since 2003) to rupture white electorate and use minorities as pawns in their devious agenda. Similary there is no end to the obliviousness, defensiveness and cluelessness to the varying religious and racial minorities by the Republicans. The party has been hijacked by revolting invade the world invite the world (TM Sailer) neocon types in a bizarre alliance with the most revolting of Christian fundamentalists(if you doubt it just read WorldNetDaily or watch CBN for two minutes-these are not fringe outlets) Take a clue out of the Conservative party in Canada who distance themselves from neocolonists and their apologists as well as hyper Christian loons while at the same time propagating bourgeios values and business friendly policies.They have a strong pull among minorities

Posted by: Dr Van Nostrand at July 16, 2013 05:44 AM (s9AkV)

463

271 All of you pups who never saw The Last Starfighter...

Get off my lawn.

Yolanda, Babay!

Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2013 05:47 AM (LI48c)

464 " When a couple of months ago I took to task OregonMuse" My man, you gotta let it go when you have a beef with another commenter. two months is too long to care about that kind of thing. Trust me, it's not it. And World Net Daily is a fringe outlet in my opinion. However, I agree with your larger point that the democrats are ruthless in their quest for more power. Their abuses of the IRS, ATF, and DOJ are pretty amazing. The country is not going to come back from that for a generation or more.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 05:50 AM (0a/7L)

465 My man, you gotta let it go when you have a beef with another commenter. two months is too long to care about that kind of thing. Trust me, it's not it. " Hola. You are right in that regard.Anyway I have patched things with OM over email The issue still remains -both the Republican elite and electorate are tone deaf to what minorities may percieve as offensive. As with many things- its not done out of malice but ignorance/incompetence WND carries columns by Prager and Sowell. Hardly fringe!

Posted by: Dr Van Nostrand at July 16, 2013 05:55 AM (s9AkV)

466 Good to hear you're a mature adult. These days they are a rare commodity online. Anyway, only a fool would put anything past the democrats in power at this point. We live in interesting times, at least.

Posted by: Hola at July 16, 2013 05:57 AM (0a/7L)

467 I'll never figure out why some Republicans seem determined to race the Democrats to the bottom. The Republican establishment is too timid and lacking gumption to win even that race.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 16, 2013 06:00 AM (ymovd)

468 Posted by: Dr Van Nostrand at July 16, 2013 09:44 AM (s9AkV) ---- I agree completely. The biggest problems I have in convincing people to vote for conservative topics is getting them over the fact that they personally have either seen or heard several times something they consider racist, sexist, etc., come from major conservative speakers, politicians, activists. That is, they might end up agreeing with me and seeing my point, but at the end of the day they will utterly refuse to vote for the "party of Akin" or the same as those people protesting amnesty with the Mexican flag paraphernalia. I know, I know, I know, you can match and exceed this stuff 1 for 1 with democrats and liberal activists. And the double standard is total bullshit. But those are the rules of the game, and railing against them isn't going to help. I'm not saying stop making signs or whatnot, but rather be smarter about what your "cutesy" attention-getting protest imagery might look like to someone who may not agree with you 100% but whom you're trying to persuade to come over to your side, be like you, think like you, and ultimately vote like you.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 16, 2013 06:14 AM (Y5I9o)

469

"Gosh, why does the GOP have such trouble attracting new voters?"

I guess your right. Two people with racist gear and a lady with a cartoonish, poster of Rubio completely undermine a protest. Are you sure it's not really the gray hair and wrinkled, white skin that drives away voters?

Posted by: Wendy at July 16, 2013 06:16 AM (KydDZ)

470 It doesn't do much good to win elections if you lose the country.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at July 16, 2013 06:23 AM (5YUSx)

471 "Gosh, why does the GOP have such trouble attracting new voters? Could it be the gleeful nastiness that so many like to display?" Where is the racism in the button? Are you aware MEXICAN is a NATIONALITY, not a RACE? You're acting just like the Democrats: Don't like someone's viewpoint or words? Call them racist. That word has no impact on us anymore. I've seen MUCH nastier stuff from the dems. How about 'hail satan'? Doesn't seem to stop them from attracting voters. Do you know why? Because people want their free shit more than they want to live free.

Posted by: blindside at July 16, 2013 06:24 AM (x7g7t)

472 Do you really think the GOP is losing because of conservatives' racism? Could it be the people who are voting for Dems are stupid and want free stuff? Or is saying that, "racist?"

Posted by: Baldy at July 16, 2013 06:24 AM (tyDFN)

473 I guess your right. Two people with racist gear and a lady with acartoonish, poster of Rubio completely undermine a protest.Are you sure it's not really thegray hair and wrinkled, white skin that drives awayvoters? Posted by: Wendy at July 16, 2013 10:16 AM (KydDZ) --- You're missing the point. This is a media war in which we are fighting a major uphill battle against rules of imagery and propaganda that are against us. If you don't think those kinds of pictures undermine our case (yes, yes, I know it's totally irrational and illogical), then what net benefit do we receive from cutesy, cartoonish protest signs? How do those things make our protests stronger and more effective?

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 16, 2013 06:26 AM (Y5I9o)

474

"How do those things make our protests stronger and more effective? "

You get a national party that actually organizes the protests and makes the trinkets and writes the chants. (And by the way, I'm not missing the point.)

Posted by: Wendy at July 16, 2013 06:31 AM (KydDZ)

475 Blindside and Baldy, No, no, no. No one here is calling anyone racist. But there are a LOT of people out there who interpret that imagery differently, often in a wrong and dumb way, but in politics their votes count just as much and yours and mine. For example, yes, nationality and race are not the same. But for LOTS of Mexicans their national symbols DO have strong racial overtones in a way that the US flag does not. Maybe it shouldn't be that way, maybe that's awful and irrational. But regardless, that's what lots of people actually think. So if you're trying to persuade them, maybe it's worthwhile to consider that. Or maybe you'd prefer to condescendingly huff and puff all by yourself in a corner because other people don't know as much as you about what their own lives mean? And then who's being like the Democrats? Also, the free-shit angle is only part of the problem. I don't believe that most current free-shitters actually started out like that. I do, however, think that conservative negligence of the importance of PR and rhetoric have made the Democrats' case much MUCH easier to make on the grounds of identity politics. Look at the millstone we have around our necks because of Todd Akin. I'm certain there are tons of voting people who are completely turned off to any non-free-shit message associated with the GOP merely because of that asshole's idiot comments about pregnancy. Again, it's totally irrational and dumb, but....if you want to win large numbers of votes, you at least need to avoid turning people off.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 16, 2013 06:39 AM (Y5I9o)

476 You get a national party that actually organizes the protests and makes the trinkets and writes the chants. (And by the way, I'm not missing the point.) Posted by: Wendy at July 16, 2013 10:31 AM (KydDZ) --- Ok, so by saying that you want the protests to be more organized and message/imagery-controlled, are you agreeing that the " Two people with racist gear and a lady with acartoonish, poster of Rubio" actually do end up having a negative effect on how conservatives are perceived by a significant number of voters?

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 16, 2013 06:44 AM (Y5I9o)

477 Let me suggest that getting nasty, like the marchers did yesterday, is not a viable path to majority. Posted by Gabriel Malor at 07:01 AM Comments Let me suggest that there's nothing wrong with getting nasty in politics but it's important to be selective about targets, what you're being nasty about. Racial bigotry is blatant idiocy, but expressing indignation and contempt is perfectly justified and correct when direct against, say, radical feminists advocating obvious infanticide or Muslim groups such as CAIR who absolutely refuse to condemn Islamic terrorism or members of the press who have abdicated their responsibilities and serve as the agitprop arm of the Obama Administration. Such people deserve nastiness--and maybe even a strongly worded letter. But yes, you're right, it's usually more advantageous to say what you're for rather than what you're against; otherwise you come across as bitter and petulant--a loser, in short. Winners don't whine. Reagan knew this. All good leaders know this.

Posted by: troyriser at July 16, 2013 06:46 AM (vtiE6)

478

"Look at the millstone we have around our necks because of Todd Akin."

So women in vagina costumes and people with jars of feces are winning votes for the Democratic party?

Posted by: Wendy at July 16, 2013 06:46 AM (KydDZ)

479 Here I expected images of old white people stomping on Mexicans and and demanding the w-words get deported immediately. A mostly peaceful mob burned up with the white rage throwing busboys off of roofs. No, just some caricatures of the worst traitor in TEA Party history. You are as lame as Rubio, Malor.

Posted by: Motionview at July 16, 2013 06:55 AM (6Tbb5)

480 Piss off Gabe. Drama Queen. Rubio is a cunt of the first order, and people do not like it.

Posted by: nip at July 16, 2013 06:55 AM (lGVXf)

481 So we are just supposed to roll over and be sold out again, Gabe?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 16, 2013 07:02 AM (ujg0T)

482

"Two people with racist gear and a lady with acartoonish, poster of Rubio" actually do end up having a negative effect on how conservatives are perceived by a significant number of voters?"

Is that a question or a statement? You are making a mountain out of a mow hill over three individuals.

Posted by: Wendy at July 16, 2013 07:17 AM (KydDZ)

483 Those protesters aren't buff and virile looking, like that dreamy Tom Roberts on MSNBC. I simply quiver when he says outrageous nonsense.

Posted by: ejo at July 16, 2013 07:32 AM (GXvSO)

484 474 "Look at the millstone we have around our necks because of Todd Akin." So women in vagina costumes and people withjars of fecesare winning votes forthe Democratic party? Posted by: Wendy at July 16, 2013 10:46 AM (KydDZ) ---- Again, you're missing the point. Because of the biased culture we have, any perceived-conservative misstep is going to be blared out 1000 times more than intended liberal malice (cf. Deen vs. Baldwin, even though Deen supported Obama). Also, Akin was running to be a representative, so it's pretty easy to say that anything he says is, well...representative. Protesters, however, can be dismissed. You know the "mostly peaceful" narrative. Liberals benefit from that, but conservatives don't. I know it's a double standard. What I'm saying is that if we don't recognize that and play smart about it, then we're the dumb ones. I'm NOT saying don't speak out; I'm NOT saying don't make signs; I AM saying that if you're protesting the immigration bill, drop the Mexican flag imagery---it's already frickin' obvious to everyone in this country that the main immigration problem comes from Mexican illegals...we don't need to point that out, and thereby serve up imagery that is simply and easily twisted into a picture of "people who don't like Mexicans".

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 16, 2013 07:35 AM (Y5I9o)

485 Is that a question or a statement? You are making a mountain out of a mow hill over three individuals. Posted by: Wendy at July 16, 2013 11:17 AM (KydDZ) --- I'm starting to think that you aren't really reading my comments...my full statement was one question: by saying that you want the protests to be more organized and message/imagery-controlled, are you agreeing that the " Two people with racist gear and a lady with acartoonish, poster of Rubio" actually do end up having a negative effect on how conservatives are perceived by a significant number of voters?

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 16, 2013 07:37 AM (Y5I9o)

486 @JeremiadBullfrog: If perception is reality -- you're a racist. Period.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at July 16, 2013 07:38 AM (zIrfB)

487 If perception is reality -- you're a racist. Period. Posted by: Chris_Balsz at July 16, 2013 11:38 AM (zIrfB) --- Exactly! But my point is that the Democrats' strategy is to hammer into low-info voters a very specific kind of perception that molds low-info voter preconceptions about conservatives and their ideas. So it's like they're winning the argument before we even open our mouths because they've already convinced the low-info voters about the meaning of the things we say and do. E.g., "You KNOW they're only against immigration because of racism because look at how they assume that all illegal immigrants are Mexicans--the pictures prove it!" I'm NOT saying this is a good argument--it's quite crap. But it is EFFECTIVE. And what I see here is a lot of (justified) anger over its effectiveness, but very little constructive discussion about how we can negate this strategy.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 16, 2013 07:50 AM (Y5I9o)

488 First step, stop asking whether we should censor ourselves. We shouldn't. "

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at July 16, 2013 08:23 AM (zIrfB)

489 First step, stop asking whether we should censor ourselves. We shouldn't. " Posted by: Chris_Balsz at July 16, 2013 12:23 PM (zIrfB) ----- Right. And wouldn't it be wonderful if everyone would just automatically understand that you're not racist? I mean, that's the most reasonable, open-minded option, no? Make no assumptions? Wouldn't it just be wonderful if no one made any assumptions and the political discourse of our country were rational and even-handed? But it's not. So if you want results, if you want to convince someone who's already got a few asinine preconceptions about you, if you want to win votes, you need to speak their language and not demand like some kind of self-centered adolescent that the rest of the world interpret you only in the manner than you intend. But if you want to whine about self-censorship, which is basically a fully asinine liberal claim about not wanting to suffer the consequences of other people's free choice to interpret your actions as they want, then I'm sure the Democrats will be happy to support you in your grand display of freedom as they use your words and actions to gin up the votes to eventually deny that freedom to you with the full force of law. I mean, self-censorship is a strong word. Are you seriously saying that it's a major infringement of freedom of speech to make the strategic suggestion that we drop the Mexican flag imagery from immigration bill protests?

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 16, 2013 09:21 AM (Y5I9o)

490 "Are you seriously saying that it's a major infringement of freedom of speech to make the strategic suggestion that we drop the Mexican flag imagery from immigration bill protests? Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 16, 2013 01:21 PM (Y5I9o)" Yes. You are pretending that some factions of the GOP are too toxic to be allowed to be heard -- not their fault! But they must be silenced for the good of all! Lesser evil! Lesser evil! I mean I read the comments. The party has been hijacked by revolting invade the world invite the world (TM Sailer) neocon types in a bizarre alliance with the most revolting of Christian fundamentalists(if you doubt it just read WorldNetDaily or watch CBN for two minutes-these are not fringe outlets) Take a clue out of the Conservative party in Canada who distance themselves from neocolonists and their apologists as well as hyper Christian loons while at the same time propagating bourgeios values and business friendly policies.They have a strong pull among minorities Posted by: Dr Van Nostrand at July 16, 2013 09:44 AM (s9AkV)" To which you wrote: "I agree completely. The biggest problems I have in convincing people to vote for conservative topics is getting them over the fact that they personally have either seen or heard several times something they consider racist, sexist, etc., come from major conservative speakers, politicians, activists. " And you want these people to shut up. Falsely imagining that Jeremiah Bullfrog is still fresh enough to be heard. As I said, you, too, are perceived as a bigot; if you imagine you can be salvaged from "reality", so can those others - but, you don't want to. Why oh why would we associate the Mexican flag with illegal aliens? Could it be that their government facilitates illegal aliens and has demanded amnesty from the floor of our Congress?

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at July 16, 2013 02:57 PM (TbVAj)

491 "Right. And wouldn't it be wonderful if everyone would just automatically understand that you're not racist?" No stupid, the press will call you racist without ANY justification. They will manufacture it from nothing. They will call it code words and dog whistles. The press will do this no matter how much you generously bitch at protesters on their behalf, or how much you filter yourself down to milquetoast nothingness. They will call you racist because it makes you flinch and upbrade their enemies in your smug, self important, futile quest to appear blameless in the face of a campaign of repetition of libels. Since you are too dumb to understand what is going on you are too dumb to have any authority regarding what to do about it. You are essentially wondering why the ventriloquist lets the dummy say those awful awful things. You don't get it.

Posted by: Cakefinger at July 16, 2013 03:14 PM (OsCtd)

492 Cakefinger, let me see if I have this right.

Because leftists and their allied media will paint conservatives, no matter what we do or say, as ignorant irrational bigots whose political positions are based solely on our nasty tribalistic antipathy toward anyone who isn't a white evangelical Protestant, conservatives should just come right out & publicly confirm that vile accusation against conservatives and do so in such a way that there will be no doubt left in the public's mind that the left was right to stereotype us that way?

I'm just trying to understand the logic advanced by you & others here which holds that actively corroborating leftist smears against conservatives somehow hurts leftists & helps to advance the cause of conservatism in the eyes of those we've all been trying to persuade so the conservative agenda might be allowed to prevail.

Doesn't crap like this ugly caricature conflating all Hispanics - even Americans of Cuban ancestry - with the quintessential KKK-style image of a lazy Mexican on a donkey give leftists more credibility?

Doesn't it & our knee-jerk defense of it make the left righteous truth-tellers whose word is more accurate & reliable than ours in the eyes of everybody else and doesn't it make conservative positions more suspect & more unattractive to all those we've been trying to persuade of the rational merit of those positions?

That specific imagery has an ignominious past & is absolutely 100% weapons-grade toxic, as every good Stormfronter knows, but I guess the prime takeaway message for the voting public that conservatives believe all dark-skinned people with vowel-y last names are all the same ethnic menace to America no matter what continent they or their parents happened to have been born on is sooooo much more important than the now-subordinated message that Rubio's bill is an unmitigated disaster for all Americans, right?

The people turning themselves into pretzels here in order to defend the indefensible are actually defending LEFTISTS against genuine conservatives objecting to self-sabotaging garbage like this & are actively helping to discredit the conservative position on the Senate bill by promulgating the conclusion that our opposition to it is borne of nothing more than raw ethnic bigotry rather than arrived at through solid deliberative reasoning based on sound moral principles.

But oh yeah, let's exact revenge upon the leftists for smearing us by proving to the world they were absolutely right on the money about us & our bigoted opposition to the Senate bill. That'll show 'em, you betcha.

Posted by: Recidivist Lurker at July 17, 2013 05:55 AM (4tWSk)

493 Aaargh, jeez. 'Scuse all the typos & skipped words above. I've got so much steam coming out of my ears about this moby with the tee shirt & pins seeking to discredit conservative's substantive opposition to the bill, I can barely see the screen.

Posted by: Recidivist Lurker at July 17, 2013 06:15 AM (4tWSk)

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