Regarding yesterday's post suggesting that being nasty isn't going to win the GOP any votes, if you think that depicting Sen. Rubio, who is not Mexican, in a sombrero against a Mexican flag background isn't a problem, well... there's really a great explanation for why you were surprised we lost in November. As I wrote way, way, way back in November when folks were probably too shell-shocked to actually read it, the GOP doesn't have a policy problem. It has a messaging one.

And as was pointed out yesterday, Gabe, the "Sarah Palin is a Cunt" T-shirts and calls for her to be gang-raped certainly didn't hurt the Dems.  So explain to me why Democrat voters aren't offended by that, but potential Republican voters will have the creeping whim-whams over a goddamn button!

And frankly, I don't give a fuck about offending Mexicans.  They offend me by breaking the law with utter impunity  and  demanding complete amnesty as well as declaring sovereign portions of US territory as their own.

Now, with that off my chest. . .hello, ‘rons and ‘ronettes.

Although Hollywood producers were deeply involved in nearly every phase of a movie – costumes, settings, dialogue, plot construction – very few had any real understanding of music, and composers found working in Tinseltown very difficult.  One producer asked Max Steiner (Gone With the Wind, Now Voyager) for more music in a scene:  “Six more yards – something we can chop off and make it fit.”  MGMÂ’s Irving Thalberg, after hearing Arnold SchönbergÂ’s atypical Verkläte Nacht, invited the composer to write the score for The Good Earth, but was put off by the composerÂ’s demand, “I will write the music and then you will make a motion picture to correspond to it.” 

And of course Sam Goldwyn, as unique in this area as in every other phase of his life, once enthused over Cole PorterÂ’s “Night and Day,” telling his associates that his new musical picture “needs something like ‘Night and Day.’”  Naturally, came the night Goldwyn was attending a party and someone played “Night and Day” on the phonograph.  “What tune is that?” asked Goldwyn.

Which leads me to todayÂ’s story.  For a film composer, what is worse than a producer with no taste in music is one who thinks he has taste in music.  The composer David Raksin (The Bad and the Beautiful, The Secret Life of Walter Mitty) once had a conference with a bright new director.  He didnÂ’t want any of that typical Hollywood music in his picture, he insisted.  He wanted “something different, really powerful – like Wozzeck .”  Raksin was overjoyed to hear the name of Alban BergÂ’s opera coming from the mouth of the man heÂ’d be working with.  Finally, he thought, after years of fighting with musical illiterates, he would be collaborating with a director who was musically sophisticated.

Raksin invited the director to his farm for dinner so the two could discuss the movie away from the distractions of the studio.  Once there, the two, drinks in hand and phonograph playing, began talking about the picture.  Raksin remembered thinking that this was the way movies ought to be – he liked the script, admired the director and couldnÂ’t wait to begin discussing the score.

But during their chat, the director frowned.  He looked around the room, an irritable look on his face, his eyes finally coming to rest on the phonograph.  “WhatÂ’s that crap youÂ’re playing?” he sneered.

“That crap,” Raksin said quietly, realizing he had another tough job ahead, “is Wozzeck .”

Hope you all have a wonderful day.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 17, 2013 07:09 AM (kdS6q)

Sanford had been a solid conservative governor for 8 years.  Even more conservative than Haley.  I guess there really is something in the water in DC or Sanford has fallen prey to the RNC bosses.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2013 07:11 AM (SSj/B)

How about Wofford?  Its kind of pricey but since we are seeking a wealthy donor that wouldn't matter AND it is the most conservative college I know.  It is also highly rated.

Gabe, I don't disagree there is a messaging problem. But you're comparing the actions of a sitting senator with a street demonstration. The Left flings tampons and carries huge puppets of slavering demonBush and pays no price. That's the problem, and unilaterally disarming has gotten us exactly nothing so far.

It may be the proper way to attract swing voters, but we have dick to show for it to date.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 17, 2013 07:18 AM (+98Gb)

Grassley has been very vocal in going after Holder and his criminal empire.  I give him kudos for that.  Its his voting record I have a problem with. Of course a lot of Morons will excuse him for that because Iowa is a Blue State.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking heavily at July 17, 2013 07:27 AM (hO8IJ)

How about the first paragraph???

Posted by: NCKate at July 17, 2013 07:31 AM (FSbfx)

It is not really "conservative" but it is the "most conservative" college I know of.  But beware, it is VERY pricey.  Unless they are providing a substantial aid package it will cost you an arm and a leg.

Neat rhetorical trick there.

Be sure to check out Gabe's new ebook,

Killing Starwmen for Fun and Profit: How Washington Taught Me How to Win My Stupid Arguments

Posted by: Thunderb at July 17, 2013 07:33 AM (TZNeT)

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I do.  There is a name for that bigger threat: white liberals.

Ugh, completed thoughts, how do those work?  Continuing from 122, although I disagree a great deal with Gabe, he brings legit news of interest every day, and he handles the criticism and sometimes outright meanness brought by some members of the horde better than most would.

So I say thank you, Gabe, for your work here.  But I'd love it if you're views would trend a little harder to the right.

Posted by: Jean at July 17, 2013 07:43 AM (CMlD4)

I did not include The Citadel in the mix because it is a military college and besides, I am not familiar with their curriculum nor do I personally know anyone from there.  As for Anderson, I never heard of them.

I am familiar with Wofford, Clemson, and USC.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 17, 2013 07:38 AM (+98Gb)

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Monty?

Again: stuff it.

Those of us surprised by the November outcome failed to realize JUST HOW EFFECTIVE THE KILL ROMNEY CAMPAIGN WAS in conjunction with a media that actively buries negative stories about the "preezy."

The GOP does need a lecture about nastiness:  start doing it.  That failing is 100% responsible for why Obama is underwater on every single policy issue but remains PERSONALLY LIKEABLE.  And that's what wins elections.

And comparing a Senator's opposition to a t-shirt worn by some average Joe on the street is weak stuff, my friend.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at July 17, 2013 07:31 AM (HEa5q)

Bob Dole has pills to make Bob's Dole hard!

Blerg.

I "slept" on the couch with one sick kid on the other end of the couch and another sick kid on the loveseat.

Since they don't go to school and get germs there, they pick them up at summer camp. That way I feel like I'm wasting my money by having them go to 2-3 days of a week-long camp.

This is the third time these two have been sick this summer.

At least we can all agree TFG is a uniquely shitty human being, full of contempt for this fellow man and the rule of law, burdened  by his twisted vision and ego.

If Saul Alinsky had a son, he'd look like TFG.

endeavor to persevere at July 17, 2013 07:59 AM (zZJJp)

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I look at it a a case of someone afraid that the Left will call it "racist" and so they  either want to preempt the call or don't want the Left to have the opportunity to do so.

What's missing in that handwringing is the fact that the Left calls most everything racist.  When you accept the Left's formulation on what is or isn't racist, you pretty much have to go exactly where Gabe is going with his fainting about a stupid button.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff

Yup.  But I think he mostly just likes the "attention" he gets in the blowback.  So, I'm thinking, don't give him any.

Posted by: Vic at July 17, 2013 07:38 AM (lZvxr)

Pick MWR or AtC.  You'd have Wolf Blitzer shitting his pants.

I don't understand how it is racist to depict Rubio in a sombrero. It is a symbol of how his amnesty policy makes him a stooge for Mexico.

Because we live in a society where people have been taught to LOOK EVERYWHERE for some reason to be offended and pissed off.  90% of the reason we as a country are so divided is because of this brain washing.

I've been around long enough to remember that when the GOP...a quite conservative GOP, mind you...handed the Dems  resounding electoral defeat in 1994, the Dems were consoling themselves with talk about how their policies weren't the problem...it was the messaging.

I laughed at them then, and I'm laughing at the Establishment GOP now  for saying it. 

The GOP has been running meek, soft-spine candidates at the national level since 1988.  It isn't the messaging - it's the ceding of  core governing philosophy to the Democrats.

Did I ever tell you about the time I almost dated Annie Sprinkle...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 17, 2013 07:49 AM (+98Gb)

Yeesh!  J.J. there's no way that's kosher!

I only have the evidence that is in front of me.  Photos, analyses, and videos, so my analysis of the Cheney bid is somewhat light on facts.

Based on what I've seen, however; I'd do her.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 17, 2013 08:00 AM (+98Gb)

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Oh! For this I carried you around for 9 months? This is the thanks I get?  All the meals I cooked for you with my own two hands.  All the times I changed your poopy diapers, and it was normal poop, it was like you were Linda Blair in the Exorcist.  And all the times I convinced your father not to give you up for adoption.... I can't believe you would do this to me.

One of the most perceptive bloggers you have never heard of explains Liz's candidacy in no nonsense terms:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/l799d9c

Posted by: Thunderb at July 17, 2013 07:47 AM (TZNeT)

I don't mind criticism.  Both Gabe and Ace have made good points as to the deficiencies of the GOP, and even if I don't agree, I can see where they're coming from.  What ticks me off about Gabe's posts, yesterday and today, is that he can't show - or won't discuss - correlation and causation.  If, as he posits, our 'mean spirited' attitude is turning off immigrants and sending them to the GOP, then he ought also to be able to point out where the sheer hatred directed at Sarah Palin - a freaking vice presidential candidate, FFS - turned off women and sent them to the GOP.

But he doesn't.  Which, to me, means either that the Democrats can be loathsome and pay no price while the GOP has to police every word from every member, or that anger, nastiness and hatred wins.  But you'd never know what Gabe thinks, other than a finger-wagging.

You know the classes. And you know why. Posted by: BurtTC

Again, yup.  It is a hell of a lot easier to blame someone else for your problems than it is to take a long, cold look in the mirror and say "How have I, ME, MY, fucked up my life.

And what burns my ass the most is THIS is where the Dems really beat us.......they have convinced the populace that everyone else is to blame for shit they do to themselves.

Its hilarious that Gabe is trying to claim that the GOP's problem isn't policy but messaging, when he is attempting to defend a policy that has become a problem.

And its kind of stupid to be so offended by a drawing that you wouldn't even give a second glance to were it to be a political cartoon on an editorial page.  You could just have easily stuck McCain on those instead, but its Rubio that is the one being the biggest spokesman for the attempt at political suicide so he's the one that gets the focus.

Oh, look - here's Calvin Coolidge, being nasty and un-PC to the Indians:

http://tinyurl.com/l2xp64m

What's funny about Gabe kvetching about Liz Cheney is his faux-wonderment about why she's not running in Virginia.

As if he would support such a right-wing extremist running for office in a purple state.

>>>For all of Washington Post's efforts

It is interesting that the MSM tries to control the populace through ignoring stories, and when they do cover them, nobody notices now.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 17, 2013 08:18 AM (T4UGA)

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The only way the NRA analogy works is if Wayne LaPierre were out there selling something that was slightly less gun-grabby than what the Brady Bunch is pushing.

The NRA is unapologetic about it's stances.  You can't say the same about the GOP.

You know who understands this really well? Sen. Paul. He opposed the Gang of 8 bill and he did it without making an ass of himself. It is entirely possible to do, the question is whether we have the will to do it.

Really?   The GOP's "messaging" is to the right?   Oh, sure it is, if you happen to be a fucking commie. 

And I fail to    see how    speaking out in favor of     conservative policies    and ideology    -- and I'm not talking about walking around holding protests, I'm talking about   SAYING THINGS OUT LOUD,   which the fucking   'Pubbies are too g-ddamn scared to do    -- is akin to "making an ass" of oneself.     But   please do enlighten me.   I am simply AGOG.

I'm sorry Gabe.  I want outrage. 

And exclamation points.

I see Jimmy Carter is blaming the prosecution for setting the evidence bar so high in the Zimmerman case.

He's not dead yet?   WTF, Grim Reaper.   Get on the fucking ball, wouldya?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 17, 2013 08:30 AM (fwARV)

Indeed.   Because the Telepathic ESP Method has always been SUCH a winner.

Posted by: Blue Dog Democrats at July 17, 2013 08:30 AM (6T8Ay)

And how many of you still exist?  Eh?  Fairly certain you've been hunted to extinction.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 17, 2013 08:28 AM (fLpzA)

You should read that NRO article I linked to above about Corey's history.  She has been doing that shit for a long time.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 17, 2013 08:31 AM (bXdYS)

If Rubeio is the Notorious V.A.G., what would Juan McShame be?   Let alone Miss Lindsay. 

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 17, 2013 08:33 AM (ZshNr)

Nice!

I guess South of the Border in SC will just have to change . . . well everything. Because Gabe said so.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 17, 2013 08:28 AM (BAS5M)

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 17, 2013 08:30 AM (9Xc5j)

Yep.  Stopped in on my way back from Charleston.  What a  tacky place.  And not tacky, fun, tacky depressing.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2013 08:28 AM (OevbG)

Yep, what the Democrats do is they run guys that claim to be conservative/moderate, but once in can always be counted on to vote with Pelosi/Reid/Obama when its really important.  What the GOP gets is candidates that claim to be moderate but once in can always be counted on to vote with Pelosi/Reid/Obama when its really important.

the creeping whim-whams

Just FYI, MP4, I am so stealing that.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 17, 2013 08:32 AM (4df7R)

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Yeah. Pretty sure they are all yellow dogs now.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 17, 2013 08:30 AM (9Xc5j)

Yes

Posted by: Death on a Horse Named Binky at July 17, 2013 08:35 AM (/PCJa)

Oh FFS.   Look, he's not Rincewind, okay?      Can't you   just, like, drop it?  

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 17, 2013 08:36 AM (6T8Ay)

*accepts tea*  Thank you, Senor Bannion.

I can't help it.   It's too damn hot outside too damn early in the morning and it    gets my temper up.  

*kicks back with a cup of Yorkshire Gold*

Gosh, you people are nice to me today!  Actually makes me feel like working.

For all you kids in the audience, here's the closest SFW pic I could find of Annie Sprinkle:

http://tinyurl.com/q376xas

The immediate counter is: "Sure. As long as you admit to holding no values or morals at all, no one can ever call you a hypocrite."

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 17, 2013 08:38 AM (fwARV)

The only reason they end up sputtering is because you used words with more than one syllable     and   they don't understand what you    said.

Stopped by SOTB last month on a family trip back to the east coast.  Have driven by it dozens of times in my life, first time to stop.

Gobsmacked, in a good way.  Got some trinkets and ice cream.  Ice  cream cones served up  by two young, pretty, charming and ever-so-pleasant girls.

Don't know why SOTB located their fireworks  store  right next to their gas pumps.  It's like inviting Irwin B. Allen to make a movie there.

Granted, it's important -- vital -- to get your point across to The Masses, but first you have to have a point to make.

^^THIS^^

Times, like, infinity.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 17, 2013 ............I think I would go with J lame and Biige Teef. Bu I'll have to think on it. Rubio to me is now the notorious VAG

Re: the X-47B

No, it's not easy to cut humans out of the process - but it's worth it, at least in this case.

They'll make it work.  They'll fix it.

As expensive as hardware is, it's still cheaper than a human life.  I'd rather have a $100M pile of carbon fiber and flaming debris than have a highly trained pilot captured.

Technology marches on.  The drones will get better.  They'll get smaller.  Their sensors will become ever-better.

I know, there's no romance to it... but it is what it is.

>>>>Funny, you never see a Democrat running as Liberal and then voting Conservative. You do see a lot of Democrats running as Conservative (or at least: "Moderate") and then voting Liberal.

And even the LIV voters commonly and openly say that any Dem candidate mouthing the moderate or conservative line is "just saying that stuff to get elected". IOW, their candidates are *reliable* liberal votes in all cases.

Hmm. Seems all they gotta do is get vetted by the Party. Isn't that curious?

Granted, it's important -- vital -- to get your point across to The Masses, but first you have to have a point to make.

And it's hard to say your point is "freedom!" , when you spend every waking moment bribing the FSA and feeding Leviathan.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 17, 2013 08:44 AM (XIxXP)

At least the original Stucky's had those great pecan logs.  But alas, they are all gone now.  I think there may be one left open.

Burn it down.

Salt the earth where it stood.

I really need to get that embroidered on a pillow.    And the reverse side can read:

WHAT IS BEST IN LIFE:

To crush your enemies

See them driven before you

And to hear the lamentation of their women.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 17, 2013 08:43 AM (fwARV)

By    three this afternoon I can say with certainty that it will be hotter than Satan's ballsack after he's just run a marathon wearing a brimstone jockstrap.

*mic drop*

Posted by: Vic at July 17, 2013 07:38 AM (lZvxr)"

I am getting to the point that I wonder if the Muslim strategy of credible death threats combined with bribes is the only way to change the constant media denigration of Republicans and conservatives.  The primary problem with that is that Christians, unlike Muslims and atheist leftists, have a strong religious stricture against political murder.  The secondary problem that assassins are usually caught and punished could be gotten around by recruiting people with terminal diseases do place the bombs or pull the triggers but that does not get past the fundamental disadvantage that Christians have in this type of contest. 

The reason that lefties get mad rather than scared by Arnold Breivek is that they know there are not a lot more like him out there.  The reason lefties urge caution and understanding of Islam and Muslim killers is that they know there are plenty more where the last ones came from and, besides, Muslim investors are likely investors in their movies and television projects.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 08:46 AM ..............I like it. Juan McClit?

Posted by: Mainah at July 17, 2013 08:50 AM (659DL)

I find myself wondering how many stupid, stupid    vaginas are going to buy that     shitty magazine because they'll be all,  "Oooh, who's this dishy guy    on the cover?   Is that the lead singer of (insult shitty band)?"    And they won't even bother to read the words or anything. 

Posted by: GMan at July 17, 2013 08:48 AM (sxq57)

Yes, its a Southern thing to still allow the sale of fireworks.  But hey, those little gas station stores also sell beer.  Is that a "Southern thing"?

Like Obama himself, Samantha Power is a committed leftist ideologue.  Evil, incompetent, foul-minded and willing to disgrace every historical aspect of America, she will be nothing more than a funnel of anti-American hate when she is posted to New York.

The good news is that no one gives a shit about the U.N., including our enemies and frenemies.  Hardly anyone pays any attention at all to it's pronouncements, and it's mostly a tax-free income gig for Americans working there.  So, which is better: Samantha Power at the White House running the NSC or in New York replacing Ambassador Susan "Dumb Shit" Rice?  Hard to say, really, but I kind of incline towards putting her in NYC, out of harms way.

Posted by: Vic at July 17, 2013 08:46 AM (lZvxr)

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Mmmmmmmmm. Stuckey's log. I haven't had one in over 20 years. Damn you for reminding me of how good we used to have it.

Posted by: Vic at July 17, 2013 08:50 AM (lZvxr)

I'm pretty sure they also don't use votes for cloture.  So yay you voted against stupid fucking liberal agenda bill #248.  Good for you.  Too bad you were one of the deciding votes that even allowed the bill to come up.  So your vote to vote on it is the reason it passed even if you didn't actually vote in favor of the bill.

As we continue mixing the frivolous with the serious –

I would never run for office.  But if I did, my platform would be a variant of the old wiccan slogan, “do what thou wilt, an it harm none.”  I offer you freedom.  Freedom to run your life in your own way, without intervention from government regulation or taxes.  I offer you freedom to do what you want.  I offer you the freedom to take responsibility for your own actions.

But that freedom must be coupled with responsibility.  I give you the freedom to start a business and to make it as easy for you as I can.  I do not give you the freedom to dump toxic waste in the river.  I give you the freedom to ride without a helmet.  I do not give you freedom to lay claim to anotherÂ’s money in order to rescue you from that decision.

And thereÂ’d be a lot more in that vein, especially in a discussion of freedom as it applies to state and federal taxes (IÂ’m a consumption tax man, myself).  And no doubt the Horde can come up with a better summation than I can off the cuff.  But that would be my platform.  It used to be the GOPÂ’s.  It ought to be again.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 17, 2013 08:39 AM (9Xc5j)

Just how fast were you going when you hit that speedbump?

GOPs "messaging problem" is that they always talk about what the Dems want to talk about.

Its simple. The Dems do not have the GOPs best interests in mind and will lead the conversation towards subjects intended to embarass them politically.

They don't give a shit about Mexicans. They don't give a shit. They already have those votes through illegal voting and adding in 11 million second-class citizens won't make them care any more about them.

Amnesty, should it come about, is just gravy. The point is to get the GOP to publicly talk about it all as if it matters, as if they're reaching for a solution.

So it all can be framed as racist and troubling in the mid-terms.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 17, 2013 08:52 AM (fwARV)

*makes note that Nearsider finds mic drops alluring*

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 17, 2013 08:49 AM (XIxXP)

-- They will still vote 95% + democrat

"You know who understands this really well? Sen. Paul. He opposed the Gang of 8 bill and he did it without making an ass of himself. It is entirely possible to do, the question is whether we have the will to do it."

The message to Hispanics who are here legally and who are, in many cases, American citizens (as have their families been for generations) has to be that illegal immigration hurts them too.  Jobs and wages - this is the key.

So being Dem Lite and backstabbing the base for the last 10 years or more is a "messaging" problem? WTF. Really? I can tell you Gabe that I am almost done with the GOP completely. When there's no or little difference it's not worth the effort. It's not that they just haven't explained themselves well enough mmmkay. Jeez wake up.

don't get is that "messaging" is only really effective when you have a good product.     Granted, it's important -- vital -- to get your point across to The Masses, but first you have to have a point to make.

100% correct.

The R's have a platform that they sell to US (thats tough, like selling water to a guy in the desert), but run away from like chickens with their heads cut off when it comes time to "sell" to the general population.

That is what is SO DAMN frustrating......we have "Coke", but they end up selling "Sam's Choice"

The only joy I take is in asking my mom if she believes she raised a racist son. After all, she's stated - dozens of times - the only reason someone could possibly oppose Obama is because he's black(ish). She simply can not fathom anyone disagreeing with any policy of TFGs.

My response to that   is generally,   "The only thing about    Obammy that I DON'T hate is    the color of his skin."

Posted by: buzzion at July 17, 2013 08:54 AM (LI48c)

Yeah that is another major problem.

And as was pointed out yesterday, Gabe, the "Sarah Palin is a Cunt" T-shirts and calls for her to be gang-raped certainly didn't hurt the Dems. So explain to me why Democrat voters aren't offended by that, but potential Republican voterswill have the creeping whim-whams over a goddamn button!

And frankly, I don't give a fuck about offending Mexicans. They offend me by breaking the law with utter impunity and demanding complete amnesty as well as declaring sovereign portions of US territory as their own.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 17, 2013 07:06 AM (zF6Iw)

Worth repeating.  Nothing to add.  As the Piano Man said, I love you just the way you are.

 The income tax can not logically coexist with the constitution. And it has been this way since 1913.

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This

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 17, 2013 08:57 AM (xywpL)

The last taxi?  Or the last line   line of China white?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 17, 2013 08:56 AM (4df7R)

Oh, it's more than just your mic he wants to see drop. . .

Posted by: Vic at July 17, 2013 07:00 AM (lZvxr)

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Harpootlian is a public menace.  Scumbaggery is his usual stock in trade.  How the fuck do South Carolinians tolerate this POS?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2013 08:59 AM ................I don't think anyone expects or is asking for 100%  Stabbing us in the back continually on the major issues is not nit picking.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 09:03 AM (/PCJa)

My take exactly.  I have three red line issues:

1. Gun Control

2. Amnesty

3. Taxes

I would like to add following the Constitution as written but almost none of them would meet that one.

Posted by: RobM1981 at July 17, 2013 08:43 AM (oeqMh)"

Back when I was working in that industry, I knew a guy who's contention was that we were doing pilot training all wrong.  He recommended that Air Force ROTC put flight simulators in High Schools so that starting at 13 or 14 or so kids would start learning how to fly while they were still developing the neural pathways that last for life.  He felt that instead of pilots being college graduates in their 20s and 30s, pilots should be 16 to 18 years old, maybe as old as 20, because young men that age have better reflexes and already believe they are immortal.  He also thought that every Air Force O club ought to have a very realistic flight simulator set up as a video game but with realistic cockpit which displayed the score on a very large LED display outside so that pilots, who are a very competitive bunch, would spend all their money training themselves to become very good.  This would not only improve their skills but lower training costs.

Posted by: MTF at July 17, 2013 09:04 AM (B5y+v)

They generally don't.  He is no longer the chair of the Dem Party and he holds no office.  You notice that he did this through the courts.

Malor, you're right in the middle of a type of soft, quishy anti-Americanism.  Rubio in a Mexican hat has nothing to do with him being Cuban,  it has to do with him representing the interests of Mexican citizens, not American citizens. 

I see nothing wrong or RAAAACIST at all with an American citizen pointing out how Rubio has aligned himself with Mexican citizens against American citizens. 

Now go and get your fucking shinebox, you're dismissed.

"I have to prove I'm NOT racist by voting for this black guy who is otherwise totally unqualified."

This is something I don't get.   I mean, we have secret ballots for a reason.   I don't generally tell anyone who I    voted for,  though my tendency for spitting   on the yard signs of Demonrat candidates and wiggling my ass in the general direction of their supporters    while quoting   "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"    tends to give   away my political proclivities. 

If someone so BADLY wants to prove their non-racist bona fides, go volunteer somewhere.   Work with black kids.   Coach their sports teams, read books to the   little ones, help the adults find good jobs.    Or, you know, turn to the jackass on the subway who's going on and on about the "ni**a" problem and tell him/her to shut their fucking    racist    mouth and go get their shinebox.    Don't vote for a    taupe Temptation   with zero experience    in    anything resembling a 9 to 5 job     who talks like a fag and whose shit's all retarded     just because    it     makes you FEEL good.   That is so fucking g-ddamn bloody STUPID.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 09:03 AM (/PCJa)

You know I've recently seen the "Pro-choice Republicans get a pass a lot of time."  Well you know what if the Pro-choice Republicans were standing down in Texas with the "Hail Satan!" crowd they wouldn't be getting a pass.  That is what Rubio and Ryan are doing with Amnesty.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 17, 2013 09:04 AM (fwARV)

Aaaaand THERE'S the    Snoop Dogg song.     I'll be humming that all day   now.  

Posted by: mugiwara at July 17, 2013 09:10 AM (D5hxK)

Oooooh.

Promise?

Gabe sure likes to suck up to the imaginary Hispanic GOP voters.

I guess creepy ass crackers are the only people allowed to be made fun of.

Maybe if we "moderate" our message, we can get the Unicorn vote too.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 17, 2013 09:08 AM (4df7R)

Oh to be a lucky supporter of the Donks when MWR  is around... And here I needed to get some work done today, thanks.

Posted by: Vic at July 1

A wise, wise man you are.  It is just so hard to ignore those annoying little gnats that try to get into your eyes/nose, though.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 09:14 AM (LRFds)

Hey Sven, is that dog-whistle for sombrero you racist?  You will have to stop at South of The Border for a 4 hour visit on your way back to SC.

Posted by: @AuthorLMendez at July 17, 2013 09:12 AM (yAor6)

You should really go back to just having all your comments be quoting other people and going "+1" afterwards.  You were far more coherent and intelligent then.

Posted by: Nighthawk at July 17, 2013 09:08 AM (OtQXp)

OK, I've told this story before, but I'll quickly recap it:  the gas station scene in It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World, where  Jonathan Winters destroyed Ray and IrwinÂ’s service station, was shot on land owned by songwriter Jimmy Van Heusen.  On Friday, he was driving to the airport, saw the station and figured his agent had rented out the spot.  On Monday, driving home, he went past the wrecked set and called his agent in a panic, thinking the place had blown up and he was going to be sued.

Posted by: Thunderb at July 17, 2013 09:11 AM (TZNeT)

They've been giving us the "just the tip" bullshit for so many years that at this point       I    think   I should start charging by the hour.     

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 17, 2013 09:18 AM (DoZD+)

Nancy Grace is a leftist hag.   Therefore, racist.  

Posted by: GMan at July 17, 2013 09:21 AM (sxq57)

If they follow State code for the gas pumps and buildings there will be no problem.  I don't recall any place like that within a 25 mile radius of where I live that has had a problem.  Or a firework place at all that has had a problem.

While some of us worry about sombrero politics and idiot prosecutors, my favorite Democrat tries hard to get the public to focus on TFG's total FAILURE to do anything positive to help the economy, thereby condemning the low-skilled, middle-aged, and unlucky to a vicious unemployment so desperate it has no visible end or improvement in sight:

http://on.wsj.com/1aKAruG

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 17, 2013 09:23 AM (VtjlW)

*slides tea to AtC*   Migraine still, my queen?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 17, 2013 09:18 AM (xywpL)

I'll see your B-52s and raise you the Leningrad Cowboys with the Red Army Choir:  Sweet Home Alabama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKD7g56DNN0

Posted by: GMan at July 17, 2013 09:21 AM (sxq57)

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They   are    on the same    side of the     flammability     spectrum, so it    should work out fine.  If they were selling gasoline or fireworks in close proximity to flamethrowers, I might see a potential problem.

You should really go back to just having all your comments be quoting other people and going "+1" afterwards. You were far more coherent and intelligent then.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 17, 2013 09:25 AM (C6MOI)

I laughed.  A LOT.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at July 17, 2013 09:25 AM (r+7wo)

+1

Malor is "the Other" as would be said by Thomas Roberts.  He is much more in tune to stuff like this.

Posted by: logprof at July 17, 2013 09:34 AM (3VBXw)

Rubio's got that down.  Its just that he lied to us.

Posted by: buzzion at July 17, 2013 09:39 AM (LI48c)

--Yeah, *SIGH*.  When can we get someone who lies, then moves/"evolves" in the *conservative* direction?

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 08:50 AM (LRFds)"

Thanks.

I am not advocating the position, just like I don't advocate the idea that Texas acquire nuclear weapons and secede, but I am trying to point out what I see as insurmountable problems with that approach.  I really don't know if there is any way that things can ever get better again and every conceivable path that I see to the future has catastrophic implications.

The basic flaw in Gabe's premise that the GOP needs better messaging is that the gate keepers who allow messages to get out to the general population are all rabid partisans for the other side and they will stop any message that might benefit us and substitute damaging messages even if they have to make them up from whole cloth.  The game is rigged.  I don't see any way to make them stop cheating.

Posted by: GMan at July 17, 2013 09:21 AM (sxq57)"

I don't know if it is still around but there used to be a place in Yolo County, California named "Gun and Grog".  Half of the place was a liquor store and the other half sold guns.  This was back when Jerry Brown was Governor the first time.

That's a good take down of the vile Nancy Grace, but two things:

1) She's mainstream?

2) She has an audience?

Both are news to me. I think she's pissed about Zimmerman because she didn't get to repeatedly scream "GUILTY!" into the camera once the verdict was announced. In this respect, she's the prosecutorial equivalent of that soccer guy who screams "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!"

We need to get vicious and mean, go for their collective throat with our collective teeth.

How does this translate  into more votes?  That's not snark, but a serious question.

Posted by: CJ at July 17, 2013 10:38 AM (9KqcB)

We (and by 'we' I mean our elected representatives and candidates) need to stop cooperating with an MSM which is obviously playing for the other team. Singling out NBC for a source boycott would be a good start; that is, a refusal by prominent GOP politicians and pundits to appear on NBC news programs, or grant interviews, or otherwise answer questions from any NBC reporters, and with that refusal, a detailed explanation as to why. Cold War-era Pravda was never so much in the tank for Breznhev as the MSM has been for Obama. If just a few name-brand Republican politicians would call them out for blatant bias, it would, for once, put those bastards on the defensive.

We could engage in the politics of personal destruction that we've always been accused of doing but have (to my knowledge) never done. Steal their handbook and use Alinsky's tactics against them. The Democrats employ armies of Internet operatives to disrupt and discredit Tea Partiers and conservatives. Identify those operatives by name and go after them. Make it personal. Ridicule, for example, is a powerful weapon but only if properly employed.

As an aside, did anyone watching Republican campaign ad spots during the last cycle notice just how awful they were? How clumsy and amateurish? I could do a better job with a Powerpoint clip art library and a 10-year-old copy of Windows MovieMaker. Those highly paid media consultants employed by the GOP are obvious frauds. Get rid of them, all of them.

I guess what I'm saying is make it a fight and stop pretending we're dealing with traditional Democrats, where a certain decorum must be observed. What and who we are dealing with are hardcore Marxist socialists who believe in things like abortion up to and including the ninth-month moment of birth, who hate individual freedom, who hate the traditional family, who boo God at the mention of His name. If we can't fight those people using the genuinely amazing tools at our disposal, we don't deserve to win.

." As I wrote way, way, way back in November when folks were probably too shell-shocked to actually read it, the GOP doesn't have a policy problem. It has a messaging one"

Umm..... wrong... the GOP has a huge policy problem, because it is a Big Government anti small Guy Party.... just like everyone else in DC.

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Despatches) at July 17, 2013 11:31 AM (v6/DQ)

Your logic doesn't follow. Like many who consistently advocate strong, hawkish defense policies, Dick Cheney thinks peace through strength is a better deterrent to conflict than peace through appeasement, isolationism, or dismarment. Personally, I think historical evidence upholds that view. The 'chickenhawk' accusation against Cheney is one usually employed by the Left to discredit conservative politicians who advocate a strong, assertive foreign policy. No, Dick Cheney didn't serve in Vietnam. Neither, for that matter, did Bill Clinton, who initiated a completely worthless war against Serbia, but I don't recall anyone calling Clinton a chickenhawk.

You also wrote, regarding Liz Cheney, 'Second, it is a stone fact that her child will never, ever, be the first out of the helicopter, LCAC, or APC.' No, it isn't a fact. She has five children, three girls and two boys, with the four older children attending school. Unless you're psychic, I don't know how you would know with certainty what any of them will or won't do when they're adults. By the way, being first out of an APC would be some trick since the Army no longer uses APCs.

An infantry veteran myself, as well as the father of a son currently serving as an infantryman in Afghanistan,  I like and admire Dick Cheney (pbuh) and his daughter, Liz.  So no, you don't speak for veterans or the parents of sons and daughters who serve.  Further, that'warmonger' remark gives you away as a Paulian libertarian since that's one of their favorite pejoratives. Anything a Ron Paul true believer says about national defense or foreign policy can usually be safely dismissed out of hand as pure batshit craziness.

Nevergiveup said: "Not so sure about that. They better do a better job of encrypting the software so our enemies can't steal the damn thing in mid air. But time will tell. Drones have their uses, but I doubt they will ever replace humans, at least not for the better"

Hey,

I agree that it's not romantic, or even noble, but I have a hard time seeing airspace as anything but technical these days.  Unless Low Observability really can stay a step ahead of the countermeasures, then the attrition rate is going to be way too high.

It's a lot easier to make a drone stealthy than it is a manned aircraft.  You know that.  A drone can also be put through maneuvers that would kill a crew - maneuvers that are very useful when evading a threat.

We're not there yet - on this I agree.  But if they can ever get the F-35 running right, it's probably the last manned Air Dominance platform unless someone comes up with a real leap in "stealth." 

Don't forget, a drone doesn't have to be fully autonomous.  There are already plenty of drones that use human uplink/downlink for various things.  Keeping "human experience" in the cockpit won't require keeping an actual human there.  A hybrid command - where the computers handle what they do best, while the humans interject their "wisdom" as needed - will almost certainly happen.