July 05, 2013

Top Headline Comments 7-5-13
— Gabriel Malor

Happy Friday.

The Daily Beast has a noteworthy post on the coup in Egypt. Oh, and whether it even is a coup is a pretty important question.

Washington Redskins fullback Eric Kettani, an officer in the Navy Reserve, has been getting hate mail on account of his situation.

Justice Ginsburg says she's not interested in quitting the high court, no matter how much liberals push her on it.

There's a real live Third Amendment case going on right now, after police officers arrested a Nevada family for refusing to let the police department use the family home as a base for a domestic violence investigation of the neighbors.

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1 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Friday, July 05, 2013.  On this day in 1687 Sir Isaac Newton published Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica.  This work established his principles of motion and universal gravitation.  It is regarded as one of the most important works of science in history.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

2 Fox says Tea Party groups are shifting their fight now from IRS spying to the Amnesty Bill.

http://tinyurl.com/od8kpvn

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

3 The French publicly dressed down the American ambassador at a July 4th garden party over the US spying.  Folks this is unheard of in diplomatic circles, especially between two nominal allies.  Of course with Obama his allies are all in the Middle East.

http://tinyurl.com/myugzaf

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

4 The Muzzie Brotherhood in Egypt plans on protesting the removal of their dictator today.

http://tinyurl.com/og2su75

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

5 OK man ambushes would be burglar who broke out a window; hog ties him on the front lawn, calls police, and calmly goes to work.   The would be burglar was on drugs at the time.

http://tinyurl.com/py95do3

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

6 Ginsberg says she will not retire under pressure from Obamanites who want him to get another pick.

http://tinyurl.com/q73obmj

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

7 Muzzies in ME take credit for AZ fires.  AZ says it was lightning. I think I will go with AZ.

http://tinyurl.com/l7kmmvl

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

8 The Turkish Muzzie dictator and Obama friend not happy with Morsi ouster either.

http://tinyurl.com/l7p82uj

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

9 Broken down has been singer says US would have universal healthcare if we had lost the revolution.

http://tinyurl.com/kfx392v

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

10 DAY 241 1,220 to go (1,293 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2013 02:54 AM (+98Gb)

11 ObamaÂ’s make it hurt sequester campaign still cancelled Camp LeJeun fireworks even though fireworks company offered to do it for free.  And then he went to play some more golf in between million dollar trips to Africa.

http://tinyurl.com/k32kwkf

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

12 St TravonÂ’s mother will testify against Zimmerman.  What material evidence can she possibly give?  It is a sign of how much this is a legal lynching that the judge allows this blatant attempt to sway the jury with emotional BS that has nothing to do with the case.

http://tinyurl.com/l8e486j

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

13 Despite delaying the business implementation of Obamacare Obama has started the federal money flowing to it to make it even harder to get rid of.

http://tinyurl.com/mz6qwqe

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

14 The Kindle Daily Deals

http://tinyurl.com/l4m7wvr




And thatÂ’s it for today.  Not much out there, and what little there is is kinda ho-hum.   But guess what is on the weather agenda for as far as predictions can be.  If you said more rain, and then more rain you would be accurate.  I am sick of rain.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:55 AM (lZvxr)

15 On this day July 5th, 1943, the German Wehrmacht launched Operation Citadel, the attack on the Kursk salient. It would become the largest tank battle in history, and the last offensive the Germans mounted in the East.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2013 02:55 AM (+98Gb)

16 Gabe that Henderson police abuse case has a lot more going down than just the 3rd amendment.  In fact, it is such agregious police malfeasance that I am surprised only a local rag is covering it.


If it is true then not only do some cops need to be fired, but they need to go to jail as well.  But if it goes like it normally does, they will continue to be on the force and the only ones held accountable will be the taxpayers of Henderson.



Maybe if the affected family sues hard enough they will bankrupt the city and the entire government will be fired.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 02:58 AM (lZvxr)

17 9 Broken down has been singer says US would have universal healthcare if we had lost the revolution. http://tinyurl.com/kfx392v Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 06:54 AM (lZvxr) And we'd still have slavery, since the Brits only abolished slavery in their own country but not in any of their overseas possessions. What a stupid, bloated gas-bag.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2013 03:00 AM (+98Gb)

18 Obama has started the federal money flowing to it to make it even harder to get rid of --- Like a case of herpes, obamacare, that.

Posted by: sTevo at July 05, 2013 03:00 AM (Tssnh)

19 12 St TravonÂ’s mother will testify against Zimmerman. What material evidence can she possibly give? It is a sign of how much this is a legal lynching that the judge allows this blatant attempt to sway the jury with emotional BS that has nothing to do with the case. I wondered too. Maybe she will vouch for Trayvon's character and thereby open the door to evidence of what a little thug he actually was.

Posted by: real joe at July 05, 2013 03:00 AM (PD2ad)

20 My give-a-shit meter twitched when I read the Midler piece... but I think it was from my laughing at that fool.

Posted by: Bayou City at July 05, 2013 03:02 AM (9ppEA)

21 13 Despite delaying the business implementation of Obamacare Obama has started the federal money flowing to it to make it even harder to get rid of. http://tinyurl.com/mz6qwqe Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 06:54 AM (lZvxr) John "Agent Orange" Boehner to shut the purse strings any day now. Any day now...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2013 03:02 AM (+98Gb)

22 I used to be a "law and order" type of person and almost automatically sided with the cops.  When I lived in CA I was friends with a lot of the OPD personnel.



But I have been seeing too many cases like this one in Henderson over the past few years.  I blame the stupid war on drugs that has not only made the Mexican drug lords wealthy beyond averice, but it has turned the  US into a Gestapo police State.


AND.WE.ARE.STILL.LOSING.THE.WAR

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 03:05 AM (lZvxr)

23 I think "Agent Orange" can be added to the AoSHQ Stylebook now. People can just use it and everyone will know your talking about a boner.

Posted by: Bayou City at July 05, 2013 03:05 AM (9ppEA)

24 26 days in a coma and they still won't pull the plug. What the hell is wrong with this family? Now every piece of dirty linen is coming out. Apparently, in the Mandela clan, nobody kept it in their pants: http://goo.gl/5KYGY

Posted by: waldo at July 05, 2013 03:05 AM (iv7WQ)

25 I used to be a "law and order" type of person and almost automatically sided with the cops. When I lived in CA I was friends with a lot of the OPD personnel.


That's me Vic but lately I would buy almost any charge against the police now. Their natural isolation and the gang of blue reaction that comes from it has been reenforced as they have been militarized.

A toxic combination.


Posted by: Rip van winkin at the 80s at July 05, 2013 03:08 AM (WVMUQ)

26 I hope everyone had a great fourth.  I now I did and I still have a few hamburgers and hotdogs left over even after pigging out to the max.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 03:08 AM (lZvxr)

27 19>> One can only hope that the mother, testifying for the prosecution becomes the coup de grace for the defense. If Zimmerman goes to jail it will set precedence and we will all be in deep, deep poo.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 05, 2013 03:11 AM (57bzg)

28 Bette Middler-what a dumbass. We already have healthcare.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 05, 2013 03:12 AM (lxc0s)

29 That's the other thing we have screwed up on this stupid war on drugs.  We have turned the local police department into shock troops, sometimes even with armored assault vehicles.  And they are doing this even in little hick towns.


Posse comitatus has become meaningless.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 03:12 AM (lZvxr)

30 St TravonÂ’s mother will testify against Zimmerman. What material evidence can she possibly give? It is a sign of how much this is a legal lynching that the judge allows this blatant attempt to sway the jury with emotional BS that has nothing to do with the case.

http://tinyurl.com/l8e486j

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 06:54 AM (lZvxr)


It can turn out to be OK for the defense.  If she plays up the St. Trayvon angle, it cold allow the defense to ask about her knowledge of his school discipline history and drug use.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at July 05, 2013 03:15 AM (1hekh)

31 Drudge cracked me up this morning with the "Bro Overthrow" headline. You know that has to piss off TFG.

Posted by: Bayou City at July 05, 2013 03:16 AM (9ppEA)

32 Let it burn

Posted by: Ender at July 05, 2013 03:16 AM (7PjX7)

33 24 There's probably some U.N. kickback scheme that only applies to him & the money stops once he shits the bed.

Posted by: s at July 05, 2013 03:16 AM (fyXGK)

34 Drudge cracked me up this morning with the "Bro Overthrow" headline. You know that has to piss off TFG.

Posted by: Bayou City at July 05, 2013 07:16 AM (9ppEA)



He is already acting like he is pissed off. He has "warned" them about cleaning house and getting rid of all the Muzzie terrorists that Morsi appointed.  Like the one down at Giza who was ousted by the local residents.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 03:17 AM (lZvxr)

35 @5  That guy who tied up the burglar better be glad he lives in Oklahoma.  If it was California or one of those other puss states the police would arrest him.  How dare he assault the crook and, you know, act like a man.

Posted by: Case at July 05, 2013 03:18 AM (9mWut)

36 Good on Ginsberg, we don't need to give Obama the chance to put another Sotomeyer or Kagan on the court.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 05, 2013 03:18 AM (lxc0s)

37 Lets hope that Scalia and Thomas can hold out as well.  They are no spring chickens. Scalia is 77 and Thomas is 65.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 03:23 AM (lZvxr)

38 Vatican news:

Pope John Paul II and Pope John XXIII cleared for sainthood.

Pope Francis has released his first encylical, "Lumen Fidei," (The Light of Faith).  In the introduction he says that Pope Benedict had been working on it and he added to it,  making it,  I believe,  the only encyclical done by two popes.

I wonder who wrote this line:

" The explanation of the connection between faith and certainty put forward by the philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein is well known."

That sort of made me chuckle.

Posted by: Miss Marple at July 05, 2013 03:23 AM (GoIUi)

39 I wondered too. Maybe she will vouch for Trayvon's character and thereby open the door to evidence of what a little thug he actually was. Posted by: real joe
.........
yeah.. that's what I was thinking.  She can add no evidence, so she can only testify about his behavior.

The defense should be able to bring out the real Trayvon..

"Why did you tell Trayvon he had to go live with his father?" etc. etc..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 05, 2013 03:25 AM (UTq/I)

40 Well paste eaters, I have to go to work. As always, I have enjoyed your company and banter. You all have a good time and save some scotch and a cigar for me when I get home.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 05, 2013 03:26 AM (57bzg)

41 St Treyvon's mama can vouch for his slim jim habit.

Posted by: sTevo at July 05, 2013 03:27 AM (dlAh+)

42 Have a good day, COJ.  I took a vacation day to make a long weekend.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 05, 2013 03:27 AM (UTq/I)

43

Mornin', y'all.  Everybody  still have all their fingers and other  bodily   appurtences   after last night's festivities?  Good.

 

Back to being screwed we go.

 

SNAFU.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 03:27 AM (0HooB)

44 Here's a few concepts that might help in the writing of a new Egyptian constitution:

- Separation of Powers (so no one person can 'dictate' terms to a nation)
- Checks and Balances. (so no one branch can coerce the others)
- A mechanism for recall (Impeachment)

Posted by: gastorgrab at July 05, 2013 03:27 AM (FX38i)

45 Good on Ginsberg, we don't need to give Obama the chance to put another Sotomeyer or Kagan on the court.

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Don't count your chickens.  If she lives long enough to see Barky's term out, she'll vacate just before he leaves so he can install another wise communist.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 05, 2013 03:30 AM (ovWeo)

46 Who needs a method for recall when you have a properly functioning military?

Posted by: sTevo at July 05, 2013 03:31 AM (Tssnh)

47 I am willing to wager some decent cash money that the cops involved in that Nevada case not only think they did nothing wrong, they are utterly butthurt that the two, not one but two, sets of people involved refused to respect their authoritah.


Still can't believe the cops didn't kill the dog.   That must have been an oversight on their part.


Here's a mindthought for you.   Say the neighbor let his house be used.   Say the bad guy (not the cop bad guys the other one) found out later.   Say the guy then went all stabby stabby on the neighbor for being involved.   Think the cops would believe they had any culpability for that?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 05, 2013 03:32 AM (Gk3SS)

48 43 Mornin', y'all. Everybody still have all their fingers and other bodily appurtences after last night's festivities? Good. Back to being screwed we go. SNAFU. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 07:27 AM (0HooB) 20 years ago, I punctured an eardrum, lost a significant mount of hearing in one ear and have tinnitus thanks to a 3" shell that exploded in the launch tube. Very lucky not to have been maimed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2013 03:32 AM (+98Gb)

49 44 Here's a few concepts that might help in the writing of a new Egyptian constitution: - Separation of Powers (so no one person can 'dictate' terms to a nation) - Checks and Balances. (so no one branch can coerce the others) - A mechanism for recall (Impeachment) Posted by: gastorgrab at July 05, 2013 07:27 AM (FX38i) ABOLITION OF ISLAM.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2013 03:33 AM (+98Gb)

50 There's a real live Third Amendment case going on right now ***** Punks with a badge that bunch. Vote in another city council and fire that chief.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at July 05, 2013 03:35 AM (MhA4j)

51 Here's a mindthought for you. Say the neighbor let his house be used. Say the bad guy (not the cop bad guys the other one) found out later. Say the guy then went all stabby stabby on the neighbor for being involved. Think the cops would believe they had any culpability for that?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 05, 2013 07:32 AM (Gk3SS)



If I remember correctly the neighbors that they wanted to watch had only been "accused" of a domestic disturbance by other neighbors. So the extremes that the cops went to were totally uncalled for.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 03:36 AM (lZvxr)

52 Morning. I don't understand how the judge let Trayvon's parents stay in the courtroom, if the mom was going to testify, but forbid GZ parents from being in the courtroom because they might be called to testify by the state? Can anyone explain that one to me?

Posted by: spypeach at July 05, 2013 03:37 AM (0n1+D)

53

Damn, JJ. I'm sorry you were injured.

 

I was watching H2 last night and their series on The Revolution (mostly populated by Leftards, IMO) and  wondered how many misfires and backfires they had in   battle.  IIRC, that was before Eli Whitney developed the concept of interchangeable parts and tightened up manufacturing tolerances for firearms.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 03:38 AM (0HooB)

54 Can anyone explain that one to me?

Posted by: spypeach at July 05, 2013 07:37 AM (0n1+D)



When you understand that "The State" is out to get Zimmerman and this is not a trial for justice it will all come together for you.


It is a legal lynching. Everyone, including the judge, on the side of the State should be disbarred.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 03:39 AM (lZvxr)

55 Lets hope that Scalia and Thomas can hold out as well. They are no spring chickens. Scalia is 77 and Thomas is 65.
Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 07:23 AM (lZvxr)


Old old joke:   No one lives longer than Supreme Court justices and the widows of rich men.  



Re:  the Henderson CF - It's unclear as to whether there was some type of ongoing hostage type situation or what exactly it was that was going on at the neighbor's house.   None of which justifies what happened and I'm finding it difficult to come up with scenarios that would justify the cops' actions at all.   If either home owner had a firearm, we would be discussing deaths right now, of that I am certain.  

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 05, 2013 03:40 AM (Gk3SS)

56 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 07:38 AM (0HooB)



Those old black powder muskets were pretty reliable in those aspects so I don't suppose there were many.  And the colonials were experts with them.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 03:41 AM (lZvxr)

57 It is a legal lynching. Everyone, including the judge, on the side of the State should be disbarred.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 07:39 AM (lZvxr)


When he is convicted, his lawyers will need to rent a semi to haul all the evidence of legal malfeasance in the trial to the appeals court.


Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at July 05, 2013 03:42 AM (1hekh)

58 Don't count your chickens. If she lives long enough to see Barky's term out, she'll vacate just before he leaves so he can install another wise communist.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 05, 2013 07:30 AM (ovWeo)

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The closer it is to the next President, the better. Congress can stonewall for a while, but 3+ years?

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 05, 2013 03:42 AM (lxc0s)

59 Damn, the sun has come out!

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 03:43 AM (lZvxr)

60
Rep. Chuck Fleischmann (R-Tenn.) and his wife donated a combined $605 to President Barack Obama's inaugural committee in January. Fleischmann donated $300, and his wife, Brenda, contributed $305.

The donations, according to a Fleischmann aide, were made "in the spirit of democracy," and covered the cost of tickets to a "bipartisan" inaugural event.

Huffpo




Big tent!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2013 03:44 AM (kdS6q)

61 The closer it is to the next President, the better. Congress can stonewall for a while, but 3+ years?

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 05, 2013 07:42 AM (lxc0s)



It has been common practice to stonewall any nominations when the President gets to 6 months left status.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 03:44 AM (lZvxr)

62 Can anyone explain that one to me? Posted by: spypeach at July 05, 2013 07:37 AM (0n1+D) The judge is corrupt and partial. Good mornin rons. Nice job per usual Vic.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 03:44 AM (XIxXP)

63

Damn, the sun has come out!

 

Here too. It rained all weekend   up until Wednesday  and some yesterday.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 03:47 AM (0HooB)

64 When you understand that "The State" is out to get Zimmerman and this is not a trial for justice it will all come together for you. It is a legal lynching. Everyone, including the judge, on the side of the State should be disbarred. Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 07:39 AM (lZvxr) I get that, but it just seems like such an obvious case of judge misconduct that it would be cause for a mistrial or appeal if convicted. It's just so damn blatant, even more so than all the other stupid shit she's done.

Posted by: spypeach at July 05, 2013 03:47 AM (0n1+D)

65 54 Can anyone explain that one to me? Posted by: spypeach at July 05, 2013 07:37 AM (0n1+D) When you understand that "The State" is out to get Zimmerman and this is not a trial for justice it will all come together for you. It is a legal lynching. Everyone, including the judge, on the side of the State should be disbarred. Posted by: Vic Nope- guillotined. Tumbrels. Mobs of offal-throwing peasants. ( That's us.... ) Heads- held up for display. May the eyelids twitch....

Posted by: backhoe at July 05, 2013 03:47 AM (ULH4o)

66 Re: the Henderson CF - It's unclear as to whether there was some type of ongoing hostage type situation or what exactly it was that was going on at the neighbor's house. None of which justifies what happened and I'm finding it difficult to come up with scenarios that would justify the cops' actions at all. If either home owner had a firearm, we would be discussing deaths right now, of that I am certain.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 05, 2013 07:40 AM (Gk3SS)

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re: Guns and a dead owner: I'm certain of that too.

Don't they have unmarked cars? Or fake plumber or a/c repair-man vans? Clear abuse of power as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 05, 2013 03:47 AM (lxc0s)

67 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2013 07:44 AM (kdS6q)



His ACU ratings run between 88 and 90 over the past two years so I suspect he is a RINO who is gaming the system.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 03:48 AM (lZvxr)

68 So a 3rd Amendment case brings the number of the Bill of Rights amendments that have not been violated to, umm, let me check my math.... zero?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 05, 2013 03:49 AM (qyfb5)

69 Big tent!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2013 07:44 AM (kdS6q)


Bipartisanship!  Republicans see it as agreeing with the Dem policies sometimes.  Dems see it as allowing the Republicans to agree with their policies.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at July 05, 2013 03:49 AM (1hekh)

70 I can't believe Rubio thinks he can get away with lying straight to the voters face. Fuck him.

Posted by: waldo at July 05, 2013 03:50 AM (iv7WQ)

71 Morning all. Kettani is doing NOTHING wrong.
A) no matter what he could be recalled to Active Duty at any time
B) good for him

I support what he is doing 100%

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2013 03:50 AM (gXLJL)

72 It is a legal lynching. Everyone, including the judge, on the side of the State should be disbarred.
Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 07:39 AM

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that Traytable's mother could appropriately testify during GZ's sentencing hearing, but not during the trial. She has no material knowledge to add.

Since the judge has made her biases clear, I'm surprised the prosecution hasn't called Fitty Cent and Al Sharpton to give their views.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 05, 2013 03:50 AM (/RIVS)

73 If I remember correctly the neighbors that they wanted to watch had only been "accused" of a domestic disturbance by other neighbors. So the extremes that the cops went to were totally uncalled for.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 07:36 AM (lZvxr)

Why didn't those Nevada cops use the residence of the neighbors who called in the abuse in the first place?  They must have had a pretty good view of things, right?

Posted by: big sarge at July 05, 2013 03:51 AM (j1nfd)

74

Since the judge has made her biases clear, I'm surprised the prosecution hasn't called Fitty Cent and Al Sharpton to give their views.

 

Convict we Much!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 03:52 AM (0HooB)

75 How is trayvon's mother allowed to testify after sitting in the courtroom for the last 2 weeks???? What the fuck?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2013 03:52 AM (gXLJL)

76

Inre the Mitchells/3A case, I note that the charges against both sets of folks were dropped.  Makes me think that the police trumped up charges that they knew wouldn't hold up, but gave them a way to go Stasi on them long enough to get their way.

 

In the meantime, if you are a LEO and you are looking to investigate someone for domestic violence on the QT, I'd think planning on battering down the door of an adjacent house and shooting pepper rounds all over the place would be pretty bad planning.  Or did they think the person they were ostensibly investigating wouldn't notice the police frog-marching their neighbor out the door...?

Posted by: @JohnTant at July 05, 2013 03:52 AM (eytER)

77 There is so much misconduct going on in that trial that even if convicted by an overly biased jury it should be easy for Zimmerman to get a mistrial declaration from any appeals court.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 03:53 AM (lZvxr)

78
RE: The Fleischmann donation

Records show Fleischmann was the only Tennessean in Congress to give at least $200 to the president's second-term kickoff. Even the State's two congressional Democrats aren't listed in the report naming inaugural donors..

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2013 03:54 AM (kdS6q)

79 A good one by Pat Condell: http://goo.gl/biqdZ The UK has once again shown they are against free speech unless you are a muslim hate preacher. They have banned Spencer and Geller from entering the country.

Posted by: waldo at July 05, 2013 03:54 AM (iv7WQ)

80 I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that Traytable's mother could appropriately testify during GZ's sentencing hearing, but not during the trial. She has no material knowledge to add.

Since the judge has made her biases clear, I'm surprised the prosecution hasn't called Fitty Cent and Al Sharpton to give their views.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 05, 2013 07:50 AM (/RIVS)

 

Supposedly St. Trayvon's Mother will testify the scream on the 911 recording is Trayvon's.  It is my understanding the Father said the voice was not Trayvon's and then later changed his story.  Experts have already stated no one can determine who was screaming.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at July 05, 2013 03:54 AM (GgPam)

81

I  hope that trial goes past Saturday. I have a gig up in Sanford then and am just a bit apprehensive.  The club is just  down the street from the courthouse.

 

I like my ass. I've had  it ever since I was little.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 03:55 AM (0HooB)

82 RE: The Fleischmann donation

Records show Fleischmann was the only Tennessean in Congress to give at least $200 to the president's second-term kickoff. Even the State's two congressional Democrats aren't listed in the report naming inaugural donors..

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2013 07:54 AM (kdS6q)

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*Facepalm.*

If the idiot had money to burn, why not give it to a charity?  Wounded Warriors would certainly appreciate the help.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 05, 2013 03:55 AM (lxc0s)

83 >>>>I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that Traytable's mother could appropriately testify during GZ's sentencing hearing, but not during the trial. She has no material knowledge to add.<<<<<

She is there to tell the jury that it is is her little Trademark hollering for help on the 911 call. The defense will object and it will be sustained but she will still get it out there for the jury. And who is going to press the grieving mother on cross examination?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at July 05, 2013 03:56 AM (Nl4r1)

84 Isn't Zimmerman married? Have his wife testify that the screams on the tape are his.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 05, 2013 03:57 AM (lxc0s)

85 Ammo dump beat me....

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at July 05, 2013 03:57 AM (Nl4r1)

86

As for the Zimmerman thing, I also cannot think of a legal basis to have TW's mother "testify."  She wasn't there.  She has no personal knowledge of the defendant.  What can she offer that is relevant?

 

I'm starting to think that, maybe, the Judge and the Prosecution are intentionally throwing these kinds of things into the mix.  If Zimmerman gets acquitted, they can (credibly) say the deck was stacked and they did everything they could to throw him in jail.  If he gets convicted, presumably the threatened riots won't happen but there's a path for Z to get the conviction overturned based on the conduct of the Judge and the Prosecution...and gives the Powers That Be a face-saving way out of this.

 

However, either way it makes a mockery of the concept of a dispassionate legal system.  This never should have made it to trial.

Posted by: @JohnTant at July 05, 2013 03:58 AM (eytER)

87 Hearing GZ's voice on tape it definitely sounds like him screaming. Plus, he was the one who was being attacked and would be screaming. It's always a hoot to see what the trayvonites are spinning. Seriously, low IQs.

Posted by: waldo at July 05, 2013 03:58 AM (iv7WQ)

88 77 There is so much misconduct going on in that trial that even if convicted by an overly biased jury it should be easy for Zimmerman to get a mistrial declaration from any appeals court. Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 07:53 AM (lZvxr) There has been uninformed speculation from the peanut gallery that the State may be going overboard to try for an "acquittal by rabid zeal," so they can both keep the conviction from happening and claim to be on the side of the Angel Martin. Presumably so they can get riots (as a Crisis Which Will Not Be Let Go To Waste) and not be the particular target of the riots themselves. Personally I think the **** stirring by the MFM is almost more offensive than the grotesque abuse by the court. Almost.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 05, 2013 03:58 AM (qyfb5)

89 She is a voice witness.

Posted by: waldo at July 05, 2013 03:59 AM (iv7WQ)

90 Horrifying as the Henderson, Nevada case is, it's really pretty weak as a Third Amendment claim.

Civilian cops are not "Soldiers", no matter how much they like to dress up and play Army men.  The "quartering" element is probably lacking too.  They weren't looking to sleep, bathe, eat and keep their toothbrushes and footlockers there which are all the things that go into being "quartered".

But the guy probably has a decent temporary "taking" claim under the Fifth Amendment.  The cops definitely took his house for a public purpose and did it without due process or paying just compensation.


Posted by: Leichendeiner at July 05, 2013 03:59 AM (u3N3z)

91 Morning all. Kettani is doing NOTHING wrong.
A) no matter what he could be recalled to Active Duty at any time
B) good for him

I support what he is doing 100%

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2013 07:50 AM (gXLJL)


I see it from a slightly different angle.  When you go to a military academy (I am a graduate of West Point), you agree to spending a total of 8 years in the military with a minimum of 5 of those being on active duty.  In exchange, you get one of the finest educations in the world.  When I attended a million years ago, it was estimated to be worth about $250,000.  Through the years, the Navy (and the Air Force to a lesser extent) have been notorious for waiving the rules for athletes with a chance to be pro athletes.  They view it as good publicity for the Navy.


Fifty years ago, Roger Staubach attended Annapolis and won the Heisman trophy.  He went on to serve his full term (at the time 4 years), part of which was in Vietnam, before going on to the NFL.  He used his leave time to work out with the Cowboys and spent his free time working out on his own.  He had the same dream this guy did, but he lived up to his commitment first.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at July 05, 2013 04:00 AM (1hekh)

92 I hope that trial goes past Saturday. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 07:55 AM (0HooB) It will. Defense hasn't had their turn at bat yet.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 05, 2013 04:00 AM (qyfb5)

93

Horrifying as the Henderson, Nevada case is, it's really pretty weak as a Third Amendment claim.

Civilian cops are not "Soldiers", no matter how much they like to dress up and play Army men. The "quartering" element is probably lacking too. They weren't looking to sleep, bathe, eat and keep their toothbrushes and footlockers there which are all the things that go into being "quartered".

 

Leichendeiner at July 05, 2013 07:59 AM (u3N3z)

 

Well, if burning a flag is free speech, I say a police officer demanding the free use of your home  so as to effect surveillance on someone  is quartering. 

 

I think you touch on something interesting though...I don't know that the 3A was ever incorporated. 

 

I tend to agree that throwing the 3A in there is probably the well-known legal tactic of throwing a bunch of stuff against the wall to see what sticks. 

 

Posted by: @JohnTant at July 05, 2013 04:03 AM (eytER)

94

Morning.

 

(In case you hadn't noticed.)

 

Time for the back to school sales to start.

 

School starts up here on August 8.

 

Not in this house.

 

Mama don't homeschool during her birthday week.

 

Field trips and a volcano in the backyard, maybe.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 04:04 AM (SUKHu)

95 85 Ammo dump beat me....

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at July 05, 2013 07:57 AM (Nl4r1)

 

 

Your honor, I was no where near "the guy that moves pianos for a living..." on the date in question.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at July 05, 2013 04:05 AM (GgPam)

96 Heh, Piano movers have naturally lumpy heads......

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at July 05, 2013 04:06 AM (Nl4r1)

97 I know legal scholars have stated that the 3rd pretty much applies to federally-activatable troops like the National Guard and of course main armed forces (ENgblom, Valenzuela, Jones), but I prefer to get my information from more reliable sources, like rumors and small children.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 05, 2013 04:07 AM (qyfb5)

98 The phrenologist said so....

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at July 05, 2013 04:07 AM (Nl4r1)

99 And now, I , crazed lunatic, will try to sleep.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 05, 2013 04:08 AM (qyfb5)

100 96 Heh, Piano movers have naturally lumpy heads......

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at July 05, 2013 08:06 AM (Nl4r1)

 

 

What's this "broken nose" thing all about?

Posted by: Medical Examiner at July 05, 2013 04:08 AM (GgPam)

101 This would be the mother who was miles away at the time, correct? I hope the defense gets the opportunity to ask her about her lawyer and PR firm stirring the pot for her waste-case son.

Posted by: zsasz at July 05, 2013 04:10 AM (MMC8r)

102 School starts on August 8th? When does it break for the year?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2013 04:10 AM (lILpY)

103 Morning everyone.

The wapo is blaming Obama's decision to delay the business mandate on.....you guessed it, Republicans.

I don't link to the Wapoopoo tribe, but you can find the story linked at Lucianne.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 05, 2013 04:11 AM (0IhFx)

104 Anybody else notice the Henderson cops apparently searched "their" new home, and ate and drank stuff that belonged to their victims?

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at July 05, 2013 04:11 AM (Yx4EH)

105 Right before Memorial Day.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 04:11 AM (SUKHu)

106 Maybe if the affected family sues hard enough they will bankrupt the city and the entire government will be fired.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 06:58 AM (lZvxr)


Good to know their taxpayer dollars are funding the police union to ensure that the police won't be personally responsible for any of the lawsuits results.  In a "fair" justice system, these "cops" would go to jail and be bankrupted.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 04:13 AM (Cnqmv)

107 ZJG Army does it too. They let a guy go to the combine a couple years back, he warms the bench for the Lions, so lots of good recruiting material there. Kettani is under a program that is not technically a waiver ( just like the Lion). It is an official service program. Can't really be mad at him for participating In a program legally available to him. I graduated a million years ago, too.

Posted by: blaster at July 05, 2013 04:13 AM (c28BI)

108 Bizarre! I assumed the kid was getting hate mail from REDSKIN fans because of his Naval duties, not the other way around!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 05, 2013 04:14 AM (wtvvX)

109 >> Despite delaying the business implementation of Obamacare Obama has started the federal money flowing to it to make it even harder to get rid of.
 
The spice money must flow.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 05, 2013 04:14 AM (cHZB7)

110

Link in name to something Stacy McCain wrote a couple days ago.

 

>>But the success of the conservative movement during the Reagan era and beyond made it a popular thing — both for Republican office-seekers and for various sorts of political functionaries — to identify themselves as “conservatives,” to claim to speak for conservatism, and to assert that their particular ideas were True Conservatism.

 

>>This influx of opportunists has not only confused the public as to what “conservative” means, but it has erected an organizational infrastructure of the movement staffed by careerists more interested in their own advancement within this hierarchy — “The Ziggurat of Ambition,” as I’ve called it — than in conservatism itself.

 

 

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 04:15 AM (SUKHu)

111 Mornin' all. It's just me and three other people in the office today.

Posted by: Mainah at July 05, 2013 04:15 AM (659DL)

112 “The Ziggurat of Ambition,” as I’ve called it — than in conservatism itself. Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 08:15 AM (SUKHu) Sounds like Rubio.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 04:16 AM (XIxXP)

113 #93

If it brings national attention on the case, it won't matter if that part is dismissed.

There has to be more to this than what has been revealed thus far. This is amazingly over the top behavior for cops looking at a domestic violence situation involving strangers. Either there is some relation between the cops and the person they wanted under observation or bigger stakes are involved. This seems more like the behavior of a rival gang than some overzealous pursuit of arresting a wife beater. As worthy a goal that may be, utterly brutalizing a complete innocent, and his dog no less, makes you wonder what the real stakes were. That a PD in a city bordering on a major location like Las Vegas didn't have proper means at their disposal for conducting observation beggars belief.

Posted by: epobirs at July 05, 2013 04:18 AM (kcfmt)

114 This is why we don't shoot randomly into the air:

http://tinyurl.com/koeeosk

SFW

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 05, 2013 04:18 AM (0IhFx)

115 I think Rubio is a conservative. His initial talk about immigration was well founded but he trusted the Dems too much - rookie mistake - and now he's gone full on politician and is lying about what he is doing. Kind of a shame.

Posted by: blaster at July 05, 2013 04:18 AM (c28BI)

116 Screw jail time for those NV cops. They deserve much worse.

Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands at July 05, 2013 04:19 AM (3ZtZW)

117 Morning guys. Up at 5:00 a.m. because the kid was checking his AP exam scores and running around the house after like a maniac 17 year old boy.

Posted by: NCKate at July 05, 2013 04:20 AM (rAyKe)

118 Horrifying as the Henderson, Nevada case is, it's really pretty weak as a Third Amendment claim. Civilian cops are not "Soldiers", no matter how much they like to dress up and play Army men. The "quartering" element is probably lacking too. They weren't looking to sleep, bathe, eat and keep their toothbrushes and footlockers there which are all the things that go into being "quartered". But the guy probably has a decent temporary "taking" claim under the Fifth Amendment. The cops definitely took his house for a public purpose and did it without due process or paying just compensation. Posted by: Leichendeiner at July 05, 2013 07:59 AM (u3N3z) Oh I think it's a weak claim as well but it is at least arguable. There are allegations that they left a fridge door open and food out and there's an allegation that they drank water. As far as sleeping, there was no indication to the two sets of people as to how long it was that the cops were going to be staying in their homes. Note also the claims that the cupboards were open and the cops went rummaging around. Good thing no one was on prescription pain killers and/or that the cops didn't find them because I bet some illegal narcotics possession claims would have been added. This is why the whole oh surveillance doesn't matter if you've done nothing wrong argument is so naive as to call into question people's ability to breathe without flash cards. If a LEO wants to arrest you, you're getting arrested. Note that once again it was obstruction aka rude to a cop and/or not letting a cop do what s/he wants. Where was it that the cop shot the dog so that it wouldn't bark while they were tromping all over people's backyards to get to where they were going? That still infuriates me.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 05, 2013 04:21 AM (VtjlW)

119

Iowahawk posted a link on Twitter to a Guardian article about "Mongolian neo-Nazi environmentalism".

 

No, really.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 04:22 AM (SUKHu)

120

But the success of the conservative movement during the Reagan era and beyond made it a popular thing — both for Republican office-seekers and for various sorts of political functionaries — to identify themselves as “conservatives,” to claim to speak for conservatism, and to assert that their particular ideas were True Conservatism.

 

All the while doing nothing to advance the cause of conservatism by actually, you know, reducing the size, cost,  and intrusiveness of government.

 

By their actions,  you will know them. However, these days, I like to hope that the ruse is up. A legitimate  question for any candidate is, "Please  outline the  concrete  steps  you've taken to  emsmallenfy gubmint."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 04:22 AM (0HooB)

121 The Kettani thing.  YouTube has the entire 1961 Packers/Giants Championship game on it. Watch the introductions as the players take the field, I would guess there was a half dozen or more players that were on special leave from the military so they could play, Paul Horning being one of them. This is nothing new. If the military feels it's good PR and has issue no with it, why should we care?

Posted by: lowandslow at July 05, 2013 04:23 AM (Fz2C7)

122 So... Madonna's chainmail niqab. Fabulous! I do believe that she is trolling.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 05, 2013 04:25 AM (kmlM7)

123 Iowahawk posted a link on Twitter to a Guardian article about "Mongolian neo-Nazi environmentalism". No, really. Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 08:22 AM (SUKHu)
That's the White Swastika or some such people, right? The hilarious thing is that the inner circle of the Nazi higherups really did have some pretty funky naturalism beliefs. Remember, Hitler was a vegetarian. Do you want to be like Hitler? No? Then eat the tasty tasty animal.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 05, 2013 04:26 AM (VtjlW)

124

>>>Note also the claims that the cupboards were open and the cops went rummaging around. Good thing no one was on prescription pain killers and/or that the cops didn't find them because I bet some illegal narcotics possession claims would have been added.

 

Yeah, I'm shocked they were that honest, and not gratuitously cruel to the dog. Obviously, these are some of the good cops I keep hearing about.

Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands at July 05, 2013 04:26 AM (3ZtZW)

125 What can't Madonna do? She amazing.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 04:26 AM (XIxXP)

126

BB, you gotta figure they are the people who wanted to get hired by the Democrats, but didn't get the job.

 

So even if they wanted to advance conservative ideas...

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 04:26 AM (SUKHu)

127 If the military feels it's good PR and has issue no with it, why should we care?

Posted by: lowandslow at July 05, 2013 08:23 AM (Fz2C7)


No problem giving special privileges to a military officer when there are still many many officers (and troops) definitely in harms way, including some of the same men and women he graduated with.  Definitely PC thinking at the JCS level.   Sure works for me!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 04:27 AM (Cnqmv)

128 Vic@ 77 Appeals? FL? Remember 2000?

Posted by: real joe at July 05, 2013 04:27 AM (PswvT)

129

So VAWA is really all about Violence towards innocent neighbors. Guy shoulda done what Biden suggested and shot through the door.

Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands at July 05, 2013 04:29 AM (3ZtZW)

130 It's a miracle that Isaac Newton wasn't burned at the stake. He was a secret alchemist, a heretic, and pervy.

Posted by: waldo at July 05, 2013 04:30 AM (iv7WQ)

131 I see Insty's being wonderfully bitchy about the Henderson case: "To be fair, though, our political class seems increasingly enthusiastic about the Fifth Amendment." So bitchy I wish I said it. Random mindthought I had on my way into work this morning, and I totally want credit for remembering I had to work today, what if a proposition/referendum state passes a proposition/referendum that says that state officials must defend any citizen passed proposition/referendum that is challenged? Would anyone have standing to challenge that? Would anyone have standing to defend a challenge to that if it is the state itself challenging it? These are the things I ponder for fun, people. I really need to watch more pr0n.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 05, 2013 04:31 AM (VtjlW)

132 The Navy did the exact same thing for David Robinson so he could play in the NBA. This is not new.

Posted by: Thunderb at July 05, 2013 04:32 AM (Q2BAl)

133 Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 05, 2013 08:31 AM (VtjlW)


Who has standing to claim standing?

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 04:33 AM (Cnqmv)

134 The Navy did the exact same thing for David Robinson so he could play in the NBA. This is not new. Posted by: Thunderb at July 05, 2013 08:32 AM (Q2BAl) OMG thank you! I could not remember who it was and it was driving me nuts.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 05, 2013 04:33 AM (VtjlW)

135 It's a miracle that Isaac Newton wasn't burned at the stake. He was a secret alchemist, a heretic, and pervy.

Posted by: waldo at July 05, 2013 08:30 AM (iv7WQ)


Alchemy was common back then and I don't think he was very "secret" about it.  Technically he wasn't a heretic.  Never heard anything about being a "perv".

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 04:34 AM (lZvxr)

136 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 04:34 AM (/PCJa)

137 King Charles lowers the hammer on "Global Warming Folly": http://tinyurl.com/pupg8ua

Posted by: Mr Pee Pee at July 05, 2013 04:34 AM (cZfZW)

138 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 04:34 AM (/PCJa)

139 They are jumping the Sharknado, and the film won't air for a week, yet.

Posted by: president clark at July 05, 2013 04:34 AM (Jsiw/)

140 59 Damn, the sun has come out!

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 07:43 AM (lZvxr)


That seems to happen in the morning!

Posted by: Killerdog at July 05, 2013 04:35 AM (Oi60j)

141 Posted by: waldo at July 05, 2013 08:30 AM (iv7WQ)

Never heard anything about being a "perv".

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 08:34 AM (lZvxr)


Me neither.  Any links?

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 04:35 AM (Cnqmv)

142 There's a real live Third Amendment case going on right now O_o Well, we were wondering how soon it would be before they shattered that one, too. I just kind of thought we were joking.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 04:35 AM (/PCJa)

143 I liked this tweet from Iowahawk: BREAKING: State Department says Egyptian military overthrow spontaneous reaction to 'White House Down' movie

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2013 04:35 AM (lILpY)

144

Who has standing to claim standing?

 

Harrumph!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 04:36 AM (0HooB)

145

>>>>Damn, the sun has come out!

 

TOMORROW

Posted by: Annie at July 05, 2013 04:36 AM (3ZtZW)

146 "No problem giving special privileges to a military officer when there are still many many officers (and troops) definitely in harms way, including some of the same men and women he graduated with."

He's a Naval Officer, he ain't going to leading some convoy or raids in the middle of Afghanistan anyways. I doubt less then 2% of Naval Officers have been in "harms way" in the last five years. More then likely he was just going to be shuffling paperwork.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 05, 2013 04:37 AM (Fz2C7)

147 12 St TravonÂ’s mother will testify against Zimmerman. What material evidence can she possibly give? It is a sign of how much this is a legal lynching that the judge allows this blatant attempt to sway the jury with emotional BS that has nothing to do with the case. The jury hopefully understands that Mama St. Skittles HAS to say that was Tray-Tray's voice yelling "help." She can't say otherwise, so she has to lie her ass off. The father can't testify since he already told police he wasn't sure it was Tra-Tray.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at July 05, 2013 04:37 AM (7ObY1)

148 Who has standing to claim standing? Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 08:33 AM (Cnqmv) That's exactly my point. I barely even skimmed the opinion so this is even more talking out my ass than usual but Our Betters may have just created a scenario where there is no one to claim standing on either side of an issue. Now, I'm sure that some rationale would be found to give someone fighting said referendum standing but there is at least the possibility that no one does on either side at the moment, given the scenario I outlined.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 05, 2013 04:37 AM (VtjlW)

149 Posted by: Mr Pee Pee at July 05, 2013 08:34 AM (cZfZW)


Chas misses the point. 


A disarmed and bankrupted citizenry, huddled in the dark at night, shivering in the cold during the winter, and succumbing to heat exhaustion during the summer, are much more docile.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 04:38 AM (Cnqmv)

150 That seems to happen in the morning!

Posted by: Killerdog at July 05, 2013 08:35 AM (Oi60j)



Not so much around here lately.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 04:38 AM (lZvxr)

151 It's a miracle that Isaac Newton wasn't burned at the stake. He was a secret alchemist, a heretic, and pervy. For a little historical accuracy in your morning: Alchemy was seen as "the cool" science back then. Think of it as the "Quantum Physics" of its period. Indeed, Newton was an alchemist (not secret at all- he got paid for it), and was ALSO one of the people who set us on the path to proving that Alchemy will never work. As for heretic... um, how? Nothing he said was heretical, that I know of, and he was as observant as custom demanded. Pervy? Yeah, add me to the list of people wanting some proof on that one.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 04:38 AM (/PCJa)

152 http://htz.li/12puRot

Haaretz article about jihadis attacking Egyptian army in the Sinai.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 04:39 AM (PzMYS)

153

I really should pay more attention to local news:

 

http://tinyurl.com/lqjns5m

 

Link to S'port Times with appearances by Lee Greenwood and Gov. Jindal.

 

>>“The federal government is treating prayer as if it is something you can catch, as if it’s contagious,” Jindal said. “There are many things I worry about when it comes to my three children, but never have I worried they were getting too much prayer.”

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 04:41 AM (SUKHu)

154 Haaretz article about jihadis attacking Egyptian army in the Sinai.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 08:39 AM (PzMYS)


Maybe we SHOULD give weapons to thee Egyptian Army!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 04:41 AM (Cnqmv)

155 The jury hopefully understands that Mama St. Skittles HAS to say that was Tray-Tray's voice yelling "help." She can't say otherwise, so she has to lie her ass off. I'm surprised that the Prosecution *wants* to call her. I mean, really, if there's anyone who can "open the door" to Trayvon's thugish past, it's mommie-dearest; who had gotten so fed up with her son that she sent him to stay with his father and his father's girlfriend, rather than to keep trying to get him sorted out.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 04:41 AM (/PCJa)

156 Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 08:41 AM (SUKHu)

Comments like this are why I added Jindal to my twitter follow group.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 04:42 AM (Cnqmv)

157 I was wondering how the Persecution team was going to screw up more after the Skype spam.  Looks like they found a way to dig that hole deeper.  Soon they will hit water table and drown like the rats they are.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 04:43 AM (PzMYS)

158 On Snowden: He should have chosen the Falklands.

Posted by: Helmholtz Watson at July 05, 2013 04:43 AM (OlCv6)

159 26 days in a coma and they still won't pull the plug. What the hell is wrong with this family? Now every piece of dirty linen is coming out. Apparently, in the Mandela clan, nobody kept it in their pants: http://goo.gl/5KYGY Decades ago, after apartheid became a big issue, my brother rented a video and caught the strangest movie trailer in his life. He surmises some Bircher (or the like) recorded it at the end of the tape. Anyways, it was scary-evil-true. The trailer opened with a close up of the Reverend Desmond Tutu inciting his followers from behind a podium. Then the camera zoomed out, showing the backdrop for Tutu was a huge red hammer and sickle communist flag. It then zoomed out a little further and in the foreground some teenager, screaming in agony, had a blazing motorcycle tire filled with gasoline pulled down around his elbows. Most of the crowd was focused on Tutu; the necklacing and assorted other other acts of violence going on were a mere sideshow. These were the moral, righteous people who, according to the worldwide media, who must rule South Africa in order to end apartheid.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 05, 2013 04:43 AM (tOkJB)

160 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 08:41 AM (/PCJa)


Mama T knows the state will never actually prosecute her for perjury, so it looks to me as though she is still a wild card.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 04:43 AM (Cnqmv)

161 From the linked Cabbage-Smasher article: Global temperatures have been flat for 16 years... Is that true? Are we "officially" at 16 years without warming? Because, if so, that just disproved any (significant) anthropological component in climate- per a climate scientist (article linked here at the HQ recently).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 04:44 AM (/PCJa)

162 Alchemy was common back then and I don't think he was very "secret" about it. Technically he wasn't a heretic. Never heard anything about being a "perv". Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 08:34 AM (lZvxr) Alchemy was illegal, his beliefs contradicted church doctrines, and he was gay.

Posted by: waldo at July 05, 2013 04:44 AM (iv7WQ)

163 really should pay more attention to local news: http://tinyurl.com/lqjns5m Link to S'port Times with appearances by Lee Greenwood and Gov. Jindal. *rocks* Can't sleep. Lemon test will eat me. *rocks*

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 05, 2013 04:44 AM (VtjlW)

164 I believe Newton come to be a non Trinitarian -views which he kept secret. That would out him outside Orthodox thought. However, he regularly read and wrote about the Bible and prophecy and believed in God.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2013 04:45 AM (lILpY)

165 Mama T knows the state will never actually prosecute her for perjury, so it looks to me as though she is still a wild card. I don't think Mama T is really that smart. I'm pretty sure she'll "open [her] mouth and remove all doubt" as it were.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 04:45 AM (/PCJa)

166 Alchemy was illegal, his beliefs contradicted church doctrines, and he was gay. No it wasn't, no they didn't, and link.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 04:46 AM (/PCJa)

167

From my link in #153:

 

>>[Sheriff] Whittington said he received a letter from the Department of JusticeÂ’s Civil Rights Division stating that if he would sign a letter pledging that no prayers or mention of God would be allowed at the meetings, funding would be restored. Whittington withdrew his application for funding, refusing to sign any such letter and instead would use other departmental funds to pay for the program.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 04:46 AM (SUKHu)

168 Me neither. Any links? Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 08:35 AM (Cnqmv) Try google. I watched an overly long BBC documentary on him. He was really quite creepy - but not a creepy ass cracka!

Posted by: waldo at July 05, 2013 04:46 AM (iv7WQ)

169 Haaretz article about jihadis attacking Egyptian army in the Sinai. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 08:39 AM (PzMYS) Good morning AP, Yep, the muzztards love getting power but giving it up? Not likely. I think we have an Iraq situation going on here. A perpetual cycle of violence by bussed in outsiders accomplishing nothing but destroying any opportunity at a peaceful existance. Bombings, shootings etc. Notice most of the people killed during the protests were women. Shot by snipers just like that Iranian Girl. Nada or something like that.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 04:46 AM (XIxXP)

170 149 Posted by: Mr Pee Pee at July 05, 2013 08:34 AM (cZfZW) Chas misses the point. A disarmed and bankrupted citizenry, huddled in the dark at night, shivering in the cold during the winter, and succumbing to heat exhaustion during the summer, are much more docile. Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 08:38 AM (Cnqmv) Hmmm...this is a Step. Obama threw down the gauntlet against AGW skepticism with his disgusting "flat-earthers" crack. For someone with the standing of Krauthammer to take him on directly in the Op Ed pages of the Washington Post is...dreamy. War against coal? Bring it on.

Posted by: Mr Pee Pee at July 05, 2013 04:47 AM (cZfZW)

171 Do we think a secondary motive of the Zimmerman trial is a back door assault on Florida's gun laws?

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 05, 2013 04:48 AM (8sCoq)

172 Hmm, the price of ground beef up 11% in a month. Hey, I know, Lets turn our food to useless fuel to appease Gaia.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 04:48 AM (XIxXP)

173 Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 08:46 AM (SUKHu) War against Christianity.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 04:48 AM (/PCJa)

174

>>*rocks* Can't sleep. Lemon test will eat me. *rocks*

 

Shakes fist at AtC for making me google stuff and LEARN something before breakfast.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 04:48 AM (SUKHu)

175 >War against coal? Bring it on.


I only wish the House Republicans would wage a war against 0bama

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 05, 2013 04:49 AM (8sCoq)

176 I mean, they're the opposition party. OPPOSE ALREADY

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 05, 2013 04:49 AM (8sCoq)

177

>>>Alchemy was illegal, his beliefs contradicted church doctrines...

 

 

Lighten up, Francis.

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2013 04:49 AM (z+Vap)

178 Is that true? Are we "officially" at 16 years without warming? Because, if so, that just disproved any (significant) anthropological component in climate- per a climate scientist (article linked here at the HQ recently).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 08:44 AM (/PCJa)



No its not true.  Temperatures  (raw) have actually been declining since 1998.  They (NOAA) can only maintain they are stable after "adjusting" them and calling it "standardization" or some other bullshit.



And that is why I didn't link that Krautman article.  His major point was the public doesn't give a shit and that temps were stable and AGW was still a definite possibility. 



In fact AGW has always been a lie.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 04:50 AM (lZvxr)

179 Is it too much to hope for that she tells the defense lawyer, "that's retarded, SIR" I'm still pissed that this is even being allowed. Scares the crap out of me how easy it is to be railroaded if you're on the wrong side of race politics.

Posted by: spypeach at July 05, 2013 04:50 AM (0n1+D)

180 I only wish the House Republicans would wage a war against 0bama Posted by: Jones in CO at July 05, 2013 08:49 AM (8sCoq) I've said it before and i'll say it again, it's like half of them are being threatened or blackmailed.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 04:50 AM (XIxXP)

181 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 08:46 AM (XIxXP)

muz and libs are all OK when the right dictator for life gets elected, and that is always a state of affairs that cannot conceivably be reversed.


It is quite different when the wrong]/u] dictator (or moderate) gets elected!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 04:50 AM (Cnqmv)

182 It also helps that Newton wasn't the attention-seeking sort and wasn't especially famous outside of intellectual circles. A core group who could appreciate his work were in awe of his cognitive powers but in his lifetime he was probably more famous to the general public for his work on the coinage.

I recall reading that Newton spoke in Parliament exactly once, to request a window be opened.

Posted by: epobirs at July 05, 2013 04:50 AM (kcfmt)

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 04:50 AM (Cnqmv)

184 Firstly, The Daily Beast is not a credible source, and I don't know why anyone would think they were.

Secondly "But what has just taken place in Egypt doesn't really fit any existing language or political template."

It was a military coup. The generals using the force of the army, 'arrested' the leaders of a political party who had taken control of the government. There is no other word for it.

Evey word written in that Daily Beast propaganda after that first sentence is fluff.


Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 05, 2013 04:50 AM (5liao)

185 Do we think a secondary motive of the Zimmerman trial is a back door assault on Florida's gun laws? No. Florida is quite happy with its gun laws, and none of them are "on trial" here. The closest anyone has come to that is saying that Z felt "empowered" by the Stand Your Ground law, but that's been thoroughly debunked. I think this is pure race-baiting along with a little "bread and circuses" to keep the black community in line "See? Only The Government can protect you!"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 04:51 AM (/PCJa)

186

>> For someone with the standing of Krauthammer to take him on

 

 

That's just mean.

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2013 04:51 AM (z+Vap)

187 Alchemy was illegal, his beliefs contradicted church doctrines, and he was gay.

Posted by: waldo at July 05, 2013 08:44 AM (iv7WQ)



Ah all that evil in one person.  I guess that is why the buried him in Westminster Cathedral.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 04:51 AM (lZvxr)

188 I don't think there's any proof Newton was gay. He's used as figurehead for people pushing an agenda such as the people who assert Lincoln was gay. People in earlier centuries related to each other differently than we do today. An example of this is the romantic sounding language that Emily Dickinson wrote to her sister-in-law. Does that mean she was gay? No, it probably means means that language between Victorian women tended to be more flowery and overtly affectionate than we'd expect between two straight women. Newton was an odd man. It's more likely he might have had Asbergers than that he was gay, the Asbergers making it more difficult to have any close relationships.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2013 04:51 AM (lILpY)

189 The pro-Morsi forces, re pro-MB, are calling for 'peaceful' demonstrations.

This is supposed to be a live stream on Egyptian events.  So far seen only commercials.  http://www.livestream.com/ONtvegLIVE

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 04:51 AM (PzMYS)

190 What kind of "domestic disturbance" requires SWAT deployment, the establishment of an incident command center and the occupation of a building as a "lookout"? This is the response a city takes when Dzerkoff runs over his brother Tammy and holes up in a boat, not a "possible domestic disturbance." And is this a civil case? Why wasn't a criminal complaint pursued?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 05, 2013 04:52 AM (JDIKC)

191 True, Hthrogar, eg; Honduras, for an example. for now the Kingdom and the Emirates, notably Doha back the Al Asissi/Mansour regime.

Posted by: president clark at July 05, 2013 04:53 AM (Jsiw/)

192 Beautiful    morning    here    on    Nantucket!  TGIF... isn't  that  what  you  serfs  say?

Posted by: John Kerry at July 05, 2013 04:53 AM (c4IyR)

193 No its not true. Temperatures (raw) have actually been declining since 1998. They (NOAA) can only maintain they are stable after "adjusting" them and calling it "standardization" or some other bullshit. My point was that even the climate "scientists" (or, at least, some of them) have admitted that their entire theory is falsified if we get to 16 years with no warming. If we've made that mark, we need to hold them to it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 04:53 AM (/PCJa)

194 @Sandmonkey 6m

@JeffreyGoldberg @Ibishblog @shadihamid Obama has lost all of his goodwill & credibility. People here officially hate him, not the US.

السيد مانكي السيد مانكي ‏@Sandmonkey 7m

@JeffreyGoldberg @Ibishblog @shadihamid 4) Don't mention aid 4 a while; 5) work on bilateral trade agreements, 6) Kerry instead of Obama

السيد مانكي السيد مانكي ‏@Sandmonkey 9m

@JeffreyGoldberg @Ibishblog @shadihamid 1) remove patterson , 2) replace her with a "riccardoni" 3) legitimize Trans gov with official visit

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 04:53 AM (PzMYS)

195 Beautiful morning here on Nantucket! TGIF... isn't that what you serfs say? Posted by: John Kerry at July 05, 2013 08:53 AM (c4IyR) I wish we had a moron fleet. We could put that tub on the bottom.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 04:54 AM (XIxXP)

196 >I think this is pure race-baiting along with a little "bread and circuses" to keep the black community in line "See? Only The Government can protect you!"


I might be wrong, but initially, local police/authorities were disinclined to bring charges against Zimmerman, right? So the pressure to prosecute was ginned up somewhere else...?

1600 PA Ave NW?

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 05, 2013 04:54 AM (8sCoq)

197 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 05, 2013 08:52 AM (JDIKC)


What's the point of all the heavy weapons training, SWAT training, and armored vehicles if we can't roll them out for something serious!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 04:55 AM (Cnqmv)

198 >I wish we had a moron fleet. We could put that tub on the bottom.



RRRRRRAMMING SPEED!!!!

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 05, 2013 04:55 AM (8sCoq)

199 Well, folks, thanks to all this rain the weeds in my yard are a foot deep and I need to knock them down before it starts raining again.


But first the rain will blow me and I will make a run to the liquor store.

Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 04:55 AM (lZvxr)

200
Alchemy was illegal, his beliefs contradicted church doctrines, and he was gay.
Posted by: waldo

Quite extraordinary claims.  You must have quite extraordinary proof.

I watched an overly long BBC documentary on him.
Posted by: waldo

....or perhaps not.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2013 04:55 AM (kdS6q)

201 Shakes fist at AtC for making me google stuff and LEARN something before breakfast. Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 08:48 AM (SUKHu) I warn people about googling stuff and I warn people. Quick! Hide! It's going to eat you too!

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 05, 2013 04:55 AM (VtjlW)

202 But first the rain will blow me and I will make a run to the liquor store. Posted by: Vic at July 05, 2013 08:55 AM (lZvxr) Have a great day Vic.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 04:56 AM (XIxXP)

203 OSP.  Hard boiled egg mortars.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 04:56 AM (PzMYS)

204 203 OSP. Hard boiled egg mortars. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 08:56 AM (PzMYS) Let em get good and rotten.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 04:57 AM (XIxXP)

205 Hey AlextheChick, McDonalds in Japan.  McNuggets with wasabi sauce.
http://youtu.be/mZ7842lYvCY

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 04:57 AM (PzMYS)

206 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 08:53 AM (PzMYS) Suddenly I have a great deal of warmth and brotherly love for the Egyptian people. Posted by: Jones in CO at July 05, 2013 08:54 AM (8sCoq) I don't know that the WH was (directly) involved at all. There were a few things going on. Sharpton heard that some black thug had been shot by a "hiemy" named Zimmerman, and started talking about "White on black crime!!!!11!!!!!Eleventy!" Teh Won's poll numbers weren't looking so hot, so the Media wanted to energize the black vote. Controversy made in Electoral Heaven.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 04:58 AM (/PCJa)

207 Well no, because by that circumstance the events of February 2011, were a coup, against Mubarak, but it illustrates Hrthogar's axiom.

Posted by: president clark at July 05, 2013 04:58 AM (Jsiw/)

208 Traytables momma is up.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 04:58 AM (XIxXP)

209 Morning all......


I missed the prosecutor's questioning of Trayvon's mother.  Defense is doing cross now.  Mark O'Mara started by saying 'I'm sorry for your loss.'  Prosecution objected....'not a question'.  Sustained.....'ask a question.'

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 05, 2013 04:58 AM (X6akg)

210 And in Alexandria pro-Morsi protestors are heading to Sidi Gaber.

You can thank Islam for the final destruction of the Library of Alexandria.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 04:59 AM (PzMYS)

211 #193

What they've admitted is that their models are fatally flawed under those circumstances, not the theory itself. This weaseling will simply mean a lot more money is needed to fund the development of better models. The gravy train rolls on.

I wouldn't mind so much if the scam was to hide some useful research and development they don't want known to the public. (The standby joke being the Stargate project.) But it appears that this is just a scam to lead comfortable lives while researching an area that otherwise would support far fewer full time participants.

Posted by: epobirs at July 05, 2013 04:59 AM (kcfmt)

212

>>I warn people about googling stuff and I warn people.

 

I still haven't recovered from the last time I wondered about something posted here with the word "lemon" in it.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 04:59 AM (SUKHu)

213 Quite extraordinary claims. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2013 08:55 AM (kdS6q) Nope. And you and the other lazy asses can go to google and with minimum search skills can find it discussed ad nauseum.

Posted by: waldo at July 05, 2013 05:00 AM (iv7WQ)

214 Prosecution objected....'not a question'. Sustained.....'ask a question.' The fu? Though, I'm wondering if that actually hurts the prosecution, here. I don't know about women, but I'm pretty sure I'd be a little non-plussed if someone got scolded for offering sympathy.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:00 AM (/PCJa)

215 So is it normal for the SoS to continue vacationing (in Nantucket, 'natch) when something like the coup in Egypt is happening? I hope Ann Patterson and the remaining US diplomats are getting out, or have a well-protected embassy, because the protesters really aren't pleased with her siding with the Muslim Brotherhood. Wouldn't count on Kerry or TFG coming to her rescue if things got dicey.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2013 05:00 AM (2mSdf)

216 I still haven't recovered from the last time I wondered about something posted here with the word "lemon" in it. Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 08:59 AM (SUKHu) I stopped after human catapillar.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 05:00 AM (XIxXP)

217

I might be wrong, but initially, local police/authorities were disinclined to bring charges against Zimmerman, right? So the pressure to prosecute was ginned up somewhere else...?

 

One of the Horde had a good link last week to some of the malfeasance behind this show trial. It involved Sheila Jackson  Lee, IIRC, and our own John "For teh Pipple" Morgan, TFG bundler.

 

Momentum keeps me from finding it right now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 05:01 AM (0HooB)

218

Brain bleach.

 

The breakfast of champion morons.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 05:01 AM (SUKHu)

219 >> For someone with the standing of Krauthammer to take him on


That's just mean.

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2013 08:51 AM (z+Vap)

-----------

 

Jawdroppingly bad taste sir.

Posted by: Zombie Roger Ebert at July 05, 2013 05:02 AM (mV8sg)

220 Nope. And you and the other lazy asses can go to google and with minimum search skills can find it discussed ad nauseum. 1- You're the one making the assertions, you prove them. 2- "discussed ad nauseum" doesn't mean a thing. I can find "Aliens abducted me!!!!" "discussed ad nauseum" on the internet. So you go find some legitimate sources and come back. Or, you know, you could stop defending some (frankly) silly claims. Either/or.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:02 AM (/PCJa)

221 So is it normal for the SoS to continue vacationing (in Nantucket, 'natch) when something like the coup in Egypt is happening?

There once was a SCOAMF in Nantucket?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer and a cheeseburger at July 05, 2013 05:02 AM (/kI1Q)

222 Who's life was Botox in a bucket

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:03 AM (PzMYS)

223 Hey AlextheChick, McDonalds in Japan. McNuggets with wasabi sauce. http://youtu.be/mZ7842lYvCY Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 08:57 AM (PzMYS) That sounds really good, actually, though everyone knows that Wendy's has the best nuggets. In random news, I'm drafting up some minutes from a corporate meeting and if you read the minutes, it sounds all nice and calm and professional and run per Robert's Rules of Order. Let's just say the actual meeting itself was a bit, er, messier. Shall we say. Don't go into business with family. Don't ever ever do it. Yes, BC, I'm staring and pointing at you.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 05, 2013 05:03 AM (VtjlW)

224 Re: the 3rd Amendment case from Vegas, the police in this country have lost their damn minds. Seriously, they demand to set up camp in the house of a completely uninvolved neighbor to watch someone else they suspect of a crime, and then when he says no they batter down his door, call him an "asshole" and demand that he lie down and crawl toward them, and then shoot pepper spray at his person and do the same to his cowering dog?!? Are you fucking kidding me? And not one of these asswipes was so much as investigated for improper behavior much less disciplined? I'm going to guess this problem runs right to the top of the department. Fuck lawsuits, the feds should be putting these morons behind bars for a decade or two. You obviously can't count on Holder's abusive crew to do the right thing, though. Christ, what are we, in the Soviet Union now?

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 05, 2013 05:03 AM (bS6uW)

225 Okay that live stream is now showing a street intersection with people.  Still no idea what is going on.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:04 AM (PzMYS)

226 Momentum keeps me from finding it right now. See, folks? That right there is an excellent mixing of the memes (or, at least, threads of discussion). A snark so subtle you could almost believe it was accidental. I applaud you, sir. (just roll with it, BB)

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:04 AM (/PCJa)

227 Someone is expecting trouble I think.  Not very cricket of them.

https://twitter.com/KhaledIMostafa/status/353136837247770625/photo/1

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:05 AM (PzMYS)

228 While on his yacht he sat

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 05:05 AM (0HooB)

229 That sounds really good, actually, though everyone knows that Wendy's has the best nuggets. Chick-fil-A. H8R. Besides, CfA Polynesian Sauce is better than any other sauce for nuggets.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:05 AM (/PCJa)

230 So you go find some legitimate sources and come back. Or, you know, you could stop defending some (frankly) silly claims. Either/or. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 09:02 AM (/PCJa) Not silly. It's funny how you and others have your panties in knots over it. It also does not make the assertions any less true. You're like little kids with your fingers in your ears yelling I can't hear you. You've already made me miss mama trayvon's testimony.

Posted by: waldo at July 05, 2013 05:07 AM (iv7WQ)

231
Nope. And you and the other lazy asses can go to google and with minimum search skills can find it discussed ad nauseum.
Posted by: waldo




Or -- I could have minored in the History of Science in college and spent a semester studying Newton's Principia and other works, abet in translation from the original Latin.

Oh wait, I did.

Care for the short version of my term paper on Newton's views on an interventionist God and his Theory of Atomic Collisions?

Nope? Busy too googling are we?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2013 05:07 AM (kdS6q)

232 That video now streaming is the Rabaa sit-in.

And the guys with the sticks are of course the MB.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:08 AM (PzMYS)

233 Baby daddy roulette, the first three minutes spent on who fathered who.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 05:08 AM (XIxXP)

234 However, he regularly read and wrote about the Bible and prophecy and believed in God. Then he must have been anti-science, just like Gregor Mendel.

Posted by: zsasz at July 05, 2013 05:08 AM (MMC8r)

235 Nope. And you and the other lazy asses can go to google and with minimum search skills can find it discussed ad nauseum. Where's Waldo? You can find him trying to stick out of the crowd by being unnecessarily rude.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2013 05:08 AM (lILpY)

236 Trayvon's brother, who is 22, is now testifying.  He's an IT major.  He speaks very clearly....go figure.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 05, 2013 05:08 AM (X6akg)

237 If the crap that went down in Henderson had happened to me or mine I'm afraid I'd be in jail now facing some sort of homicide related charges. I'm in a very stressful situation right now and that would have probably made me snap.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 05, 2013 05:09 AM (tOkJB)

238 Tami so using the Biden yardstick - he is clean and articulate?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:10 AM (PzMYS)

239 132 The Navy did the exact same thing for David Robinson so he could play in the NBA. This is not new. Posted by: Thunderb at July 05, 2013 08:32 AM (Q2BAl) Actually they did it only because David had signed up to be a fighter pilot, but while at Annapolis, he grew too tall to fit in a cockpit so that contract had to be revised. A couple of years before that, the Navy wouldn't do it for Napoleon McCallum.

Posted by: baldilocks at July 05, 2013 05:10 AM (cTgyY)

240 Trayvon's brother, who is 22, is now testifying. He's an IT major. He speaks very clearly....go figure. Posted by: Tami at July 05, 2013 09:08 AM (X6akg) No gold in the grill, he could be normal.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 05:10 AM (XIxXP)

241 Trayvon's brother, who is 22, is now testifying. He's an IT major. He speaks very clearly....go figure. Again- what is up with this F'n show trial? Well, okay, to ask is to answer. But, really, is this what we've come to? The facts don't back up the prosecution's case (indeed, the actual facts all served to prove Zimmerman was telling the God's Honest Truth the whole time), so now we're going to parade a bunch of "witnesses" who didn't "witness" anything materially related to the case? Seriously?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:11 AM (/PCJa)

242 Damn. Before I remembered Kerry was SecState, I read SoS as Sack of Shit.

Posted by: Invictus at July 05, 2013 05:11 AM (OQpzc)

243 Sandmonkey's Twitter feed
https://twitter.com/Sandmonkey

And citizen journalists Twitter feed
https://twitter.com/Ana_Mubasher

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:12 AM (PzMYS)

244
Where's Waldo? You can find him trying to stick out of the crowd by being unnecessarily rude.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke




Is he the high school kid that's been hanging out here lately, or is that someone else?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2013 05:12 AM (kdS6q)

245 238 Tami so using the Biden yardstick - he is clean and articulate?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 09:10 AM (PzMYS)



Appears so....

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 05, 2013 05:12 AM (X6akg)

246 And he said with a spat

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 05:12 AM (0HooB)

247 Muslim Brotherhood plans "Friday of Rage" protests in Egypt. Gee, why does that sound familiar? Oh yeah, the OWS movement, backed by a garb-bag of 60's radicals, started their movement off with several "Day of Rage" protests, and these same radicals (Code Pink, etc.) are also friendly w/Hamas, etc.

Political Misfits pegged the "Day of Rage" silliness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZkdvA2W5MI

Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2013 05:12 AM (2mSdf)

248 Before I remembered Kerry was SecState, I read SoS as Sack of Shit. They're interchangeable in this case.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:13 AM (/PCJa)

249 "A coup? I'll go windsurfing. Fuck it."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 05:13 AM (0HooB)

250 And he said with a spat Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 09:12 AM (0HooB) This is so much easier than the senate.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 05:13 AM (XIxXP)

251 I know the defense has to be careful with his family members, but they really need to hit these people harder. GZ life is on the line. Take the gloves off in my opinion.

Posted by: spypeach at July 05, 2013 05:14 AM (0n1+D)

252 Again- what is up with this F'n show trial?

Well, okay, to ask is to answer. But, really, is this what we've come to? The facts don't back up the prosecution's case (indeed, the actual facts all served to prove Zimmerman was telling the God's Honest Truth the whole time), so now we're going to parade a bunch of "witnesses" who didn't "witness" anything materially related to the case? Seriously?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 09:11 AM (/PCJa)


The whole questioning of the family members has to do with whose voice is screaming on the tape.  Mom said it was Trayvon....brother says at first he couldn't tell....but then the family's lawyer told him what to say.  I may have made up that last part.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 05, 2013 05:14 AM (X6akg)

253 They are now chanting at the sit-in.  Also 4:15pm.  So soon the mosques will issue their hate orders for the weekend.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:14 AM (PzMYS)

254 Should we make one of those douche-y slide shows with us holding signs telling Egypt "Sorry"?

Posted by: fluffy at July 05, 2013 05:14 AM (z9HTb)

255 AGW has always been a scam that can be easily put to bed with four simple questions.

What is the optimal global temperature?

At what time in earths history was this optimal global temperature?

How much does Co2 production have to be cut back in order to return us to this optimum global temperature?

How long do we have to cut back Co2 production in order to achieve this optimum temperature?

These are very basic, germane questions the fact that no one has bothered to demand these answers before we upend our whole way of life speaks volumes.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 05, 2013 05:15 AM (zOP5o)

256 Copernicus was a bowfucker. I read it on the internet. The. Internet. QED. That's Latin for "totally true."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 05, 2013 05:15 AM (8BU84)

257 >>Should we make one of those douche-y slide shows with us holding signs telling Egypt "Sorry"?

Don't forget the head-tilt of concern!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2013 05:15 AM (2mSdf)

258 So the unemployment rate stays at 7.6% as we add 195K jobs (of which 75K are either waiters or bartenders), while 17K net more become unemployed and the discouraged/underemployed rate rises from 13.8 to 14.3%. Naturally the Adminstration's reaction is to add another year of small business indecision by covering its ass delaying Obamacare implementation. Obama is a fucking genius ....

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 05, 2013 05:16 AM (bS6uW)

259 It's possible Waldo is a high school kid, although I don't think that a high school kid would use a moniker related to a cartoon figure from childrens' books or care about whether Newton was gay. Just a partial troll trying to get a rise out of people. Meh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2013 05:16 AM (lILpY)

260 Should we make one of those douche-y slide shows with us holding signs telling Egypt "Sorry"? Posted by: fluffy at July 05, 2013 09:14 AM (z9HTb) I like a leaflette drop telling them to calm the fuck down, with a little picture of a mushroom coud over mecca.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 05:16 AM (XIxXP)

261

Well, okay, to ask is to answer. But, really, is this what we've come to? The facts don't back up the prosecution's case (indeed, the actual facts all served to prove Zimmerman was telling the God's Honest Truth the whole time), so now we're going to parade a bunch of "witnesses" who didn't "witness" anything materially related to the case? Seriously?

 

I hope  the Defense brings up this little point  when it's their turn.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 05:16 AM (0HooB)

262 Oops!   Spilled  a  bit   of  bloody  mary  on  Mrs.  Heinz - Kerry.  I  lurched.

Posted by: John Kerry at July 05, 2013 05:17 AM (c4IyR)

263
Copernicus was a bowfucker. I read it on the internet.
The. Internet. QED. That's Latin for "totally true."
Posted by: Empire of Jeff





Galileo?  Into feet.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2013 05:17 AM (kdS6q)

264

It can't be a coup if the military simply joined a popular uprising.

 

The Mamluks played Zero like a fiddle. If he pisses them off, well there is some really oil rich land just to their east in Libya. And they have all those new shiny tanks and planes...

Posted by: Invictus at July 05, 2013 05:17 AM (OQpzc)

265 I know the defense has to be careful with his family members, but they really need to hit these people harder. GZ life is on the line. Take the gloves off in my opinion. I can't watch, so I don't know what's going on (except by comments here). That said, I would be very hesitant to "take the gloves off" with the vic's family- especially if they're not saying anything materially relevant. Do just enough to prove they weren't there and have no clue what happened, and then move on. But, in addition to not being able to watch, I'm also not a lawyer and certainly not a trial lawyer, so take that for what its worth. (probably "a buck-oh-five.")

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:17 AM (/PCJa)

266 240 Trayvon's brother, who is 22, is now testifying. He's an IT major. He speaks very clearly....go figure. Posted by: Tami at July 05, 2013 09:08 AM (X6akg) No gold in the grill, he could be normal. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 09:10 AM (XIxXP) He wouldn't be the first person to have a wayward younger sibling.

Posted by: baldilocks at July 05, 2013 05:17 AM (zGxXs)

267 Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2013 09:12 AM (2mSdf) Wonder if the MSM will refer to the Muslim Bros. "vague but legitimate" grievances. Besides having all their leaders arrested that is ....

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 05, 2013 05:18 AM (bS6uW)

268 maybe Kerry's yacht has a Situation Room

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 05, 2013 05:18 AM (8sCoq)

269 Re: the 3rd Amendment case from Vegas, the police in this country have lost their damn minds. Seriously, they demand to set up camp in the house of a completely uninvolved neighbor to watch someone else they suspect of a crime, and then when he says no they batter down his door, call him an "asshole" and demand that he lie down and crawl toward them, and then shoot pepper spray at his person and do the same to his cowering dog?!? Are you fucking kidding me? And not one of these asswipes was so much as investigated for improper behavior much less disciplined? I'm going to guess this problem runs right to the top of the department. Fuck lawsuits, the feds should be putting these morons behind bars for a decade or two. You obviously can't count on Holder's abusive crew to do the right thing, though. Christ, what are we, in the Soviet Union now? Posted by: Blacksheep at July 05, 2013 09:03 AM (bS6uW) And then the cops went down to his parents' house and hauled them out, threw the father in cuffs because reasons so far as I can tell and nearly caused the mother to have serious health issues not to mention hauling her bodily out of the house. From what I can gather from that article, it was two separate houses where this occurred and there was some kind of mobile command center set up. Again, I think the Third Amendment claim is weak but it is at least a colorable claim. I would like to know what the hell happened with the situation the cops were there to investigate. Did the man/woman who was getting the crap beat out of them actually get any help, assuming that there was something going on and it wasn't just a neighbor overreacting.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 05, 2013 05:18 AM (VtjlW)

270 so take that for what its worth. (probably "a buck-oh-five.")

Four more pennies, and I can get an illegal-in-NYC Coke at McDonalds. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer and a cheeseburger at July 05, 2013 05:19 AM (/kI1Q)

271 He wouldn't be the first person to have a wayward younger sibling. Posted by: baldilocks at July 05, 2013 09:17 AM (zGxXs) Sounds like he's telling the truth which has the judge and prosecution trying to figure a way to shut the defense up, again,

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 05:19 AM (XIxXP)

272 I don't care for John Kerry, but i don't know that we can blame him for being on vacation, He's entitled to a vacation, which may have been scheduled before he became SOS, and no doubt he has a Smartphone he can be contacted on about developments.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2013 05:19 AM (lILpY)

273 The victim family impact statements are supposed to come after a guilty verdict...  my this Persecution team is a bunch of sharp styluses...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:20 AM (PzMYS)

274 Four more pennies, and I can get an illegal-in-NYC Coke at McDonalds. My sales-tax rate is better than your sales-tax rate. Nanny-nanny-boo-boo. It costs me $1.08.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:20 AM (/PCJa)

275 I don't care for John Kerry, but i don't know that we can blame him for being on vacation, He's entitled to a vacation, which may have been scheduled before he became SOS, and no doubt he has a Smartphone he can be contacted on about developments. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2013 09:19 AM (lILpY) Let that hot ginger spokesperson handle it. Her face doesn't look like it was made by a second grader out of clay.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 05:21 AM (XIxXP)

276 >I don't care for John Kerry, but i don't know that we can blame him for being on vacation,


I can blame him for anything I want. He's a vain lying opportunistic piece of shit.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 05, 2013 05:22 AM (8sCoq)

277 I think from the proseuctions POV family impact statements would be helpful coming now. Anything to put in the mind of the jury about "poor litlle Trayvon."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2013 05:22 AM (lILpY)

278 FenelonSpoke.  Kerry was in Israel and Gaza trying to perform CPR on that Mid-East peace process when Egypt started to spiral downwards.  Instead of sticking around he then flew off to Asia after the military gave the ultimatum and accomplished much of nothing in Asia.  And now he is on his yacht. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:22 AM (PzMYS)

279 The victim family impact statements are supposed to come after a guilty verdict... my this Persecution team is a bunch of sharp styluses... Well, you see the problem. Actually, if the Prosecution is asking about the 911 tape, I guess that's at least semi legit; but I wouldn't put a lot of stock in it, if I were a juror. Of course they say it's Martin- 1) they've just suffered a painful loss and they want it to "make sense." 2) they've been well coached.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:22 AM (/PCJa)

280 Val  Jarret  says  my   being   on   a   yacht   is   'bad  optics'.  Will   have   to   ask   Barry  and   Joe   what   that   means.

Posted by: John Kerry at July 05, 2013 05:23 AM (c4IyR)

281

Her face doesn't look like it was made by a second grader out of clay.

 

Good thing I didn't have a   mouthful of coffee when I read that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 05:23 AM (0HooB)

282 They're going to take a brief recess because...."the locksmiths are here".  WTF did I miss?

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 05, 2013 05:23 AM (X6akg)

283 They're going to take a brief recess because...."the locksmiths are here". WTF did I miss? Judge locked her keys in her car?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:24 AM (/PCJa)

284 They're going to take a brief recess because...."the locksmiths are here". WTF did I miss? Posted by: Tami at July 05, 2013 09:23 AM (X6akg) The lock is broke on the evidence room.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 05:24 AM (XIxXP)

285 He may be that, but he can't be going to Egypt and it's not like he's actually on an island without any means of communication

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2013 05:24 AM (lILpY)

286 Locksmiths?  Has St. Trayvon's family be caught in off-limit areas?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:24 AM (PzMYS)

287 I wonder if a lawyer has ever lost it and punched a judge in the face, just curious.

Posted by: spypeach at July 05, 2013 05:24 AM (0n1+D)

288 The lock is broke on the evidence room. Real, or snark?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:24 AM (/PCJa)

289 And this morning I saw at my Bing homepage that "Kerry Washington" was a hot story. "Great," I say, "Ordinary People are interested in that slacker asshole!" and hit the link for Bing links about this breaking story only to discover that it's about an athlete and a model (IIRC) getting married.
8=^(

Posted by: andycanuck at July 05, 2013 05:25 AM (9+vDU)

290 I wonder if a lawyer has ever lost it and punched a judge in the face, just curious. Posted by: spypeach at July 05, 2013 09:24 AM (0n1+D) Oh i'm sure of it. I would have already went over the bench.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 05:25 AM (XIxXP)

291 I wonder if a lawyer has ever lost it and punched a judge in the face, just curious. Well, considering we used to have fights on the Senate floor, I'm going to go with "yes" just on probability grounds.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:25 AM (/PCJa)

292 The lock is broke on the evidence room. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 09:24 AM (XIxXP) Seriously? Seriously? Because that is pretty much the perfect summary of this entire trial.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 05, 2013 05:25 AM (VtjlW)

293 josh stacher ‏@jstacher 5m

RT @sharifkouddous: Troops open fire at MB demonstration at officer's club. Follow @BowenBBC who reports at least one bloodied body.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:26 AM (PzMYS)

294 Real, or snark? Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 09:24 AM (/PCJa) Cereal, they can't get in.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 05:26 AM (XIxXP)

295

Judge locked her keys in her car?

 

Did you  hear the one about the guitar player who locked his keys in his car?

 

It took them two hours to get the drummer out.

 

*rimshot*  I'm here all week. Try the veal  and tip   your waitress.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 05:26 AM (0HooB)

296 272 I don't care for John Kerry, but i don't know that we can blame him for being on vacation, He's entitled to a vacation, which may have been scheduled before he became SOS No. He has been on vacation since 1984. If he had this scheduled beforehand, he should have cancelled it upon his confirmation. Secretary of State in these interesting times should be prepared to burn the candle at both ends and the middle for four years.

Posted by: fluffy at July 05, 2013 05:26 AM (z9HTb)

297 Wait a minute.  The evidence room door lock is broke?  What just happened to the chain of custody?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:26 AM (PzMYS)

298

>>Yes, BC, I'm staring and pointing at you.

 

Probably be easier if you just tell us when you aren't.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 05, 2013 05:26 AM (SUKHu)

299 RT @sharifkouddous: Troops open fire at MB demonstration at officer's club. Follow @BowenBBC who reports at least one bloodied body. And that warmth and brotherly affection I have for the Egyptian people just keeps growing. At least, assuming the "bloodied body" is a member of the MB.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:26 AM (/PCJa)

300 I think Kerry was a very poor choice for SOS but as it was an entirely politically motivated pick, I'm not surprised he's a poor choice. Obama's picks are either crooks or incompetent or both. I just don't expect him to be right in the middle of a revolution in Egypt

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2013 05:27 AM (lILpY)

301 He wouldn't be the first person to have a wayward younger sibling.

Posted by: baldilocks at July 05, 2013 09:17 AM (zGxXs)



My comment was comparing his (the brother's) to Miss Jeantel's command of spoken English.  Not that siblings can't be complete opposites....I know that well.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 05, 2013 05:27 AM (X6akg)

302 Wait a minute. The evidence room door lock is broke? What just happened to the chain of custody? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 09:26 AM (PzMYS) It's fine, they can't get it open.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 05:27 AM (XIxXP)

303 Cereal, they can't get in. What the...? Seriously, what does that do to things like chain-of-custody? How did it "break?" Evidence of a break-in attempt?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:28 AM (/PCJa)

304 *rimshot* I'm here all week. Try the veal and tip your waitress.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 09:26 AM (0HooB)

 

I'd rather try the waitress.

Posted by: Invictus at July 05, 2013 05:28 AM (OQpzc)

305 The lock is broke on the evidence room. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 05, 2013 09:24 AM (XIxXP) Oh, good grief. Why doesn't the defense move for a mistrial right now?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2013 05:28 AM (lILpY)

306 It's fine, they can't get it open. But why can't they get it open? If they can't get it open because someone broke in (and then closed the door behind them) that's a problem.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:29 AM (/PCJa)

307 @Sandmonkey 1m

Reports that the MB demonstrators killed two presidential guardsmen. I am going down to defend my neighborhood.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:29 AM (PzMYS)

308 They need those Skittles NOW!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 05:29 AM (0HooB)

309 I'd rather try the waitress. But how do you tip the veal?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:29 AM (/PCJa)

310 Did Muslim Brotherhood learn 'Day of Rage' Egypt Protest Tactics From Obama Allies Bill Ayers and Code Pink?

http://tinyurl.com/kry2h58

Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2013 05:29 AM (2mSdf)

311 John Kerry on a yacht in Nantucket bay.

Before the event, Obama said that a military coup in Egypt would threaten the continuation of US aid to the military.

After the event Obama said that it wasn't a coup
but the US will review it's aid to Egypt.
So...
...just as soon as government experts complete that review, and it gets published in the NYTimes, Then Obama will know what to do. . . if he ever finds the time to read the papers. But, as always, Obama is fighting the government for us, to see that the right things get done.

So I guess we're waiting on media reporters to cultivate their highly placed sources inside the government who have knowledge of the situation but are not authorized to speak to the media.



Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 05, 2013 05:30 AM (5liao)

312 Reports that the MB demonstrators killed two presidential guardsmen. I am going down to defend my neighborhood. The MB need to be put down like dogs.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:30 AM (/PCJa)

313 My point was that even the climate "scientists" (or, at least, some of them) have admitted that their entire theory is falsified if we get to 16 years with no warming. If we've made that mark, we need to hold them to it. A few days ago there was an article linked to here about that. Some scientist said that 2% of the global warming models allowed for a 15 year hiatus in increasing temperatures so We're still not out of the woods yet. He also said, however, that zero models allowed for a 20 year stop in rising temperatures, so we have five more years to find out if the models are correct. Although the guy was pulling the eternal environmentalist trick of moving the goalposts at least he said there was a limit as to how far they could be moved.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 05, 2013 05:30 AM (tOkJB)

314

These are very basic, germane questions the fact that no one has bothered to demand these answers before we upend our whole way of life speaks volumes.

 

The damn germans got nuttin' to do with it.

Posted by: Sheriff Buford T. Justice at July 05, 2013 05:30 AM (BAS5M)

315 BTW, we're going to hit aphelion in about 45 minutes.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer and a cheeseburger at July 05, 2013 05:31 AM (/kI1Q)

316 Agence France-Presse ‏@AFP 11m

#BREAKING At least 3 dead in gunfight between Egypt army, demos: AFP

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:31 AM (PzMYS)

317 Abolition of slavery
Under increasing pressure from the British abolitionist movement, the British government enacted the Slave Trade Act in 1807 which abolished the slave trade in the empire. In 1808, Sierra Leone was designated an official British colony for freed slaves.[81] The Slavery Abolition Act passed in 1833 abolished slavery in the British Empire on 1 August 1834 (with the exception of St. Helena, Ceylon and the territories administered by the East India Company, though these exclusions were later repealed). Under the Act, slaves were granted full emancipation after a period of 4 to 6 years of "apprenticeship".[82]

Different non-Wiki source with more-detailed information relating to Jamaica but I'm guessing similar for all the British colonies with slavery:
jamaica-guide.info/past.and.present/history/slavery.emancipation/

And from the colony that went on to become Ontario (founded by Loyalists after the American Revolution)...
1793 Lieutenant Governor John Graves Simcoe passes anti-slavery legislation. The Upper Canada Act Against Slaves allows slave owners to keep slaves but any slave who crosses into Canada will be free and the children of slaves will be free at age 25

1819 Declaration by Attorney General of Upper Canada, John Beverley Robinson, that Blacks residing in Canada be free and protected by British law

Posted by: andycanuck at July 05, 2013 05:31 AM (9+vDU)

318 He also said, however, that zero models allowed for a 20 year stop in rising temperatures, so we have five more years to find out if the models are correct. Ah, that was it. So 20 years is the magic number. I wonder if God loves me enough to let that happen? Please, God? I'll (try to) be good. I promise.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 05:32 AM (/PCJa)

319

BTW, we're going to hit aphelion in about 45 minutes.

 

If we honk, will it move out of the  way?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 05, 2013 05:33 AM (0HooB)

320 Now someone is saying the two dead are not presidential guard but are MB.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:33 AM (PzMYS)

321 But how do you tip the veal?
By the back legs---their horns are too small to do it from the front.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 05, 2013 05:34 AM (9+vDU)

322 The Upper Canada Act Against Slaves allows slave owners to keep slaves but any slave who crosses into Canada will be free and the children of slaves will be free at age 25 ----------------- Ain't THAT a bitch!

Posted by: Preexisting Canadian slaves at July 05, 2013 05:36 AM (8BU84)

323 Newell post

Posted by: Sheriff Buford T. Justice at July 05, 2013 05:36 AM (BAS5M)

324 Boston Herald has John Kerry, focused like a laser on tumultuous world events from an open-air Situation Room on the strategic island fortress called Nantucket

http://is.gd/qMOWVD

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 05, 2013 05:37 AM (8sCoq)

325 News of the off-beat. 

92 year old Iraqi farmer re-marries.  Bride is 70 years his junior.  His ceremony also included two of his grandsons getting married.

http://tinyurl.com/mrmw6x3

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 05, 2013 05:38 AM (PzMYS)

326 "U.S. troops deployed to Kandahar Airfield in Afghanistan this week held the first Lesbian, Gay, Bi-Sexual, Transgender Pride event to be observed in a deployed environment.
The Pentagon also held a LGBT Pride Month ceremony on Tuesday, one day before the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act, which defined marriage as between a heterosexual couple."

Remind me again, what is our mission in Afghanistan and at the DoD?
Didn't think it had anything to do with validating the lifestyles of our allies.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2013 05:39 AM (2mSdf)

327 That John Kerry, he's sharp as a bowling ball. http://tinyurl.com/l6cywgo

Posted by: fluffy at July 05, 2013 05:40 AM (z9HTb)

328 The Moslem Brotherhood killed one Egyptian Prime Minister back in 1949, they don't need any such lessons,

Posted by: president clark at July 05, 2013 05:42 AM (Jsiw/)

329 Yes, #322, but J.J. seems to believe slavery was never abolished in the Empire; and they were all free by 1819.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 05, 2013 05:42 AM (9+vDU)

330 (Free in Upper Canada/Ontario that is.)

Posted by: andycanuck at July 05, 2013 05:43 AM (9+vDU)

331 Remember, Hitler was a vegetarian. Do you want to be like Hitler? No? Then eat the tasty tasty animal.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 05, 2013 08:26 AM (VtjlW)



I am soooo stealing that for use on my veggie-terrorizing sister-in-law!!

Posted by: VelvetElvis at July 05, 2013 05:46 AM (hleDf)

332 (probably "a buck-oh-five.")

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 05, 2013 09:17 AM (/PCJa)

 

The price of freedom!

Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2013 05:47 AM (DrWcr)

333 Adolf was an ex-smoker too, Velvet Elvis, so he was a real Nazi about people not smoking in his presence.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 05, 2013 05:50 AM (9+vDU)

334 So their assertion is that St. Skittles was shrieking for help while pounding Zimmerman's head into the pavement?

Posted by: zsasz at July 05, 2013 05:51 AM (MMC8r)

335 If the 3rd Amendment applies to the states via the 14th (and I'm surmising), it may be that in this day and age, the police are the functional state equivalent of the military.  I know we have the N.G., but that's formalistic reasoning.  Moreover, there's probably some kind of tie-in with the posse comitatus act.  Still, it's weak, but mirthful.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2013 06:18 AM (la7vt)

336 So their assertion is that St. Skittles was shrieking for help while pounding Zimmerman's head into the pavement?

Posted by: zsasz at July 05, 2013 09:51 AM (MMC8r)


Yes, St Tray was screaming for help because this sleazy ass white hispanic  cracka was pounding his own head into the concrete so as to set a case against the helpless youth.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2013 06:29 AM (Cnqmv)

337 Pic of the Day: Compare and Contrast Obama: Egypt v Benghazi

http://tinyurl.com/k848hmy

Posted by: Predictable History at July 05, 2013 06:31 AM (taozn)

338 I just finished reading the story on the 3rd Amendment case. If the plaintiff's assertions are true, then I'm absolutely flabergasted and appalled. I've always been a strong supporter of law enforcement but if this is true, then this was outrageous and inexcusable conduct. Every single officer involved, including the chief, should be fired.

Posted by: So Cal Jim at July 05, 2013 07:58 AM (UsjbC)

339

Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2013 10:18 AM (la7vt)

 

I think it would fall more under the category of the State Seizing property without just compensation... or due process...

 

Note that it does not say that the State must seize property PERMANENTLY for those prohibitions to be in effect...

 

But hey.... that's just that Pesky Highest Law in the Land thing... and is trumped by the Police State.

Posted by: John Spartan at July 05, 2013 08:16 AM (lZBBB)

340 Maybe the Henderson Police only need a waiver from our King to seize what they need. This now seems an accepted work-around for our other "laws".

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at July 05, 2013 08:59 AM (SzAZ7)

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