July 08, 2013

Top Headline Comments 7-8-13
— Gabriel Malor

Happy Monday.

It's looking a lot like pilot error. NTSB isn't saying for sure yet, but there's no reported or observed mechanical failure and the pilot only had 43 hours of flying time on the 777. "The plane was travelling 'significantly below' its intended speed and its crew tried to abort the landing just seconds before it hit the seawall in front of the runway."

Cash-strapped cities are seeing Obamacare as way to unload retiree health costs on the U.S. taxpayer.

Islamists attempted to storm the army barracks where former president Morsi is being held. Some people are dead (the number keeps changing), and the Muslim Brotherhood is calling for an uprising. The Muslim Brotherhood, as is classic for this type of thing, claims that they were engaged merely in peaceful prayer when they were shot at by the army.

Eliot Spitzer is running for NYC comptroller . . . against his former madam. What is it with these people? Is there seriously nothing else the Spitzers and Weiners of the world can do except run for office?

Animated sequel Despicable Me 2 beat the stuffing out of Gore Verbinski's the Lone Ranger at the box office this weekend. The masked vigilante's $48.9 million haul doesn't seem so bad except that the film cost over $250 million to make, not including promoting costs.

The Hill joins the chorus of Beltway media outlets noting that Obama has to turn things around or his second term is gonna be a big fat failure. National Journal's Josh Kraushaar had perhaps the best of these pieces so far, "Obama's Crisis of Competence."

Speaker Boehner continues to rake in big bucks for the GOP.

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1 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Monday, July 08, 2013.  On this day in 1889 the first issue of the WSJ was published.

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 02:50 AM (lZvxr)

2 Pilot who crashed the plane at SFO had little experience with the aircraft and had never landed one at SFO before.

http://tinyurl.com/kfaul88

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 02:50 AM (lZvxr)

3 DAY 244 1,217 to go (1,290 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 02:50 AM (+98Gb)

4 Coroner thinks one of the teenage girls killed at that crash was struck by an emergency vehicle.

http://tinyurl.com/lx5l5sw

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 02:50 AM (lZvxr)

5 Chicago had a nice 4th.

http://tinyurl.com/lvkrfux

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 02:51 AM (lZvxr)

6 Obama to illegally deploy a host of new CO2 regulations this month, unauthorized by Congress.  One wonders what would happen if these plants told him to shove them up their ass.

http://tinyurl.com/lm2kcx3

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 02:51 AM (lZvxr)

7 US removes embassy official who traded Visas for sex and money.

http://tinyurl.com/loodlfq

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 02:51 AM (lZvxr)

8 Jim Carrey is sorry he was an asshole.

http://tinyurl.com/ljmjy7n

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 02:51 AM (lZvxr)

9 UN warns that open Mexico border is a pathway for drug lords to the US.  No shit, talk to the choom king.

http://tinyurl.com/k3bkky5

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

10 Republican congressman from Idaho says amnesty bill will be the death of the Republican Party.  IÂ’m glad we have at least one guy who “gets it”.

http://tinyurl.com/lu7txg9

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

11 2 Pilot who crashed the plane at SFO had little experience with the aircraft and had never landed one at SFO before. http://tinyurl.com/kfaul88 Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 06:50 AM (lZvxr) At some point, inexperienced pilots have to get behind that control column and get rated. I would think that there would be a command pilot in the seat next to his, so that's what I'm curious about. You'd think at least the instructor would be paying attention, especially on final approach.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 02:52 AM (+98Gb)

12 ABC thinks Zimmerman will walk.

http://tinyurl.com/lfkhdwq

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

13 Ben Laden files removed from the military and sent the CIA where they can be shielded better.

http://tinyurl.com/lof5bw4

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

14 Kindle Daily Deal

http://tinyurl.com/kowckqa

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

15 6 Obama to illegally deploy a host of new CO2 regulations this month, unauthorized by Congress. One wonders what would happen if these plants told him to shove them up their ass. http://tinyurl.com/lm2kcx3 Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 06:51 AM (lZvxr) If we're going to imitate the Soviets, can't we at least have bureaucrats who will take bribes. "Nice plant, very well run. CO2 well within limits." (Cha-ching!)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 02:54 AM (+98Gb)

16 I have to say the check pilot needs his wings revoked.  What was he really doing while Mr. 43 Hrs was trying to land the plane?  Obviously not monitoring the situation.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 02:54 AM (WGVAJ)

17 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 06:52 AM (+98Gb)


His copilot was experienced with the aircraft AND SFO landings.  One wonders WTF he was doing?

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 02:55 AM (lZvxr)

18 The Muslim Brotherhood, as is classic for this type of thing, claims that they were engaged merely in peaceful prayer when they were shot at by the army. "Please allah, let me get my hands on him" does not count as prayer.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2013 02:56 AM (vWV3A)

19 Check out picture #9.  George W. Bush's 2009 Ford F-150 sold at a charity auction for $300,000.  The proceeds went to Fisher House Foundation.

http://tinyurl.com/kq8385a

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 02:57 AM (WGVAJ)

20 Well it has been awhile since I gave any report from behind enemy lines over at space battles. The main topic over there is about if they are going to let the Republican Party exist in its current form or not. They have charts and stuff showing the demographic shift and the rise of the millennials. Any suggestions on how to point out their error?

Posted by: southdakotaboy at July 08, 2013 02:57 AM (Baypg)

21 It was a wdding, we were firing our guns in joy, the dog made me do it infidels!

//Muslim Brotherhood Monologues

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 02:58 AM (LRFds)

22 17 His copilot was experienced with the aircraft AND SFO landings. One wonders WTF he was doing? Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 06:55 AM (lZvxr) Exactly. The aircraft has a warning system that shakes the control column to alert the pilot that the aircraft is in danger of stalling. In any event, yes, what the fuck was the instructor doing, especially on final approach.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 02:59 AM (+98Gb)

23 Jim Carrey is sorry he was is an asshole. Fixed.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2013 02:59 AM (vWV3A)

24 #18 That copilot was probably thinking of the cocktails is the pilots lounge. Or already drinking them. ....

Posted by: SAT Rose at July 08, 2013 03:00 AM (ZE10R)

25 They have charts and stuff showing the demographic shift and the rise of the millennials.

Any suggestions on how to point out their error?

Posted by: southdakotaboy at July 08, 2013 06:57 AM (Baypg)


A lot of people have already pointed out that they and the leadership are full of shit. That includes the Idaho rep at #10

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 03:00 AM (lZvxr)

26 To be truly precise and accurate - Jim Carrey is just a sorry arse.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:00 AM (WGVAJ)

27 His copilot was experienced with the aircraft AND SFO landings. One wonders WTF he was doing? Fapping.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2013 03:00 AM (vWV3A)

28 20--Repubes are already dead as a national political party. Just a roving band of consultants and NE libs looking for a new base.

Posted by: Dale Gribble at July 08, 2013 03:01 AM (+kznc)

29 15 JJ Sefton,

http://tinyurl.com/4v26eep

Krugman Classics "Your Money is not yours."


Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 03:02 AM (LRFds)

30 I just watched the original Despicable Me this weekend. I really enjoyed it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 08, 2013 03:05 AM (jjvz+)

31 Posted over at NRO on the Corner: My colleagues Steven Camarota and Karen Zeigler have published a report showing that all the net growth in employment among the working-age (ages 16–65) over the last decade went to immigrants (legal and illegal). Since 2000 the total number of immigrants employed is up by 5.3 million, while native-born employment is down 1.3 million. And this is despite the fact that immigrants accounted for only one-third of the growth in the working-age population. That means the U.S.-born working-age population increased by 16.4 million from the first quarter of 2000 to the first quarter of 2013, but the number of them working declined. So natives accounted for two-thirds of the growth in potential workers, but none of the growth in actual workers. ============== That's a great economic growth model we've got going...

Posted by: Jay in PA at July 08, 2013 03:05 AM (WSgyE)

32 29 15 JJ Sefton, http://tinyurl.com/4v26eep Krugman Classics "Your Money is not yours." Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 07:02 AM (LRFds) Ferret-faced irrelevant know-nothing published in an irrelevant rag no one reads.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 03:06 AM (+98Gb)

33 New London is in the new again.  The 2d US Circuit Court of Appeals in New York ruled in favor of New London for not hiring a man who scored a 33 on the police test.  Their reasoning for rejecting him?  They figured a too smart cop could get bored so only interviewed those who scored between 20 and 27.

http://tinyurl.com/k5gdd67

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:06 AM (WGVAJ)

34 8 Jim Carrey is sorry he was an asshole. http://tinyurl.com/ljmjy7n .... The condescending prick

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 08, 2013 03:06 AM (jjvz+)

35 31 Jay in PA,

Like I said in the glowing embers of the ONT, we're on pace to be back to full employment in 2018 or so.

53% of workers make sub 30,000....

Heckuva job Barky.....


Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 03:07 AM (LRFds)

36 Thurston's wife is in critical condition. (Over at AOL-Puff Ho)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 03:07 AM (+98Gb)

37 33 Anna Puma,

Yeah....thank God we have government intervention in hiring practices eh?

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 03:08 AM (LRFds)

38 ABC thinks Zimmerman will walk. Posted by: Vic ABC is just getting out there early to raise the tension. Gotta have race riots as the basis to implement the Affirmative Akshun Presnit's new policies. The civil trial will be the pone that does Zimmerman in. That poor guy is gonna be broke and penniless before this is over if he isn't already.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 08, 2013 03:09 AM (57bzg)

39 53% of workers make sub 30,000.... ... I don't know how they do it if a single income family.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 08, 2013 03:10 AM (jjvz+)

40 Shave scruffy beard + gradeschool facepaint + dead bird on head = authentic injun

Serious, you guys.

Posted by: Captain Jack Sparrow at July 08, 2013 03:11 AM (G9Mmf)

41 38 Crotchety Old Jarhead,

"I have my civil rights gambit before the civil trial."

//Eric "My People" Holder

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 03:11 AM (LRFds)

42 "Ferret-faced irrelevant know-nothing published in an irrelevant rag no one reads." Yes, but he's a pretty reliable indicator of what the left thinks and how they're going to act.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 08, 2013 03:12 AM (57bzg)

43 38 The civil trial will be the pone that does Zimmerman in. That poor guy is gonna be broke and penniless before this is over if he isn't already. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 08, 2013 07:09 AM (57bzg) Hopefully, Zimmerman will sue the shit out of NBC, ABC the National Action Network, Rainbow-PUSH and 40 Acres + Mule.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 03:12 AM (+98Gb)

44 42 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 08, 2013 07:12 AM (57bzg) This is true. Know your enemy, or enema in this case.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 03:13 AM (+98Gb)

45 40 Shave scruffy beard + gradeschool facepaint + dead bird on head = authentic injun Serious, you guys. .... Depp is a talented actor but he fell into a Tim Burton type of trap and now all characters are the same. I loved him in Don Juan de Marco.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 08, 2013 03:14 AM (jjvz+)

46 FTSB: A Mongolian Neo-Nazi Environmentalist The damn fascists have the best uniforms.

Posted by: toby928© at July 08, 2013 03:14 AM (QupBk)

47 Or know your obstructed BM?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:14 AM (WGVAJ)

48 sven10077@sven10077 - Everywhere the left rules, inequality grows and the middle class basically disappears. I've been saying for years that the left's version of economic achievement is....Mexico. You have the super-rich (them) with a bunch of poor servants. Oh, and a corrupt government too. That's a measure of success too.

Posted by: Jay in PA at July 08, 2013 03:14 AM (WSgyE)

49 I have to say the check pilot needs his wings revoked. What was he really doing while Mr. 43 Hrs was trying to land the plane? Obviously not monitoring the situation.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 06:54 AM (WGVAJ)



I can't wait for that Morning Joe asshole Mike Barnicle to defend him like he did the greatest pilot evarrrrr JFK Junior.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 08, 2013 03:15 AM (gKVL5)

50 Hopefully, Zimmerman will sue the shit out of NBC, ABC the National Action Network, Rainbow-PUSH and 40 Acres + Mule I believe his attorney did file suit against NBC and CNN. Of course the other downside for Zimmerman is that for the rest of his life he'll be looking over his shoulder either in prison or in the World.

Posted by: Daybrother at July 08, 2013 03:16 AM (PdKpD)

51
Your overwrought tweet of the day:

kateyrich ‏@kateyrich

An America in which White House Down is not a hit is an America I truly no longer understand.

Editor in Chief
Cinemablend.com

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 08, 2013 03:17 AM (kdS6q)

52 Thurston's wife is in critical condition.

(Over at AOL-Puff Ho)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 07:07 AM (+98Gb)



She probably stroked out at that ignorant asshole being on his yacht (which her money surely bought) instead of doing his fucking job.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 08, 2013 03:18 AM (gKVL5)

53 Sounds like Katey Rich is a typical ultra rich tool with no idea of the struggles the working person has to go through.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:19 AM (WGVAJ)

54

Spitzers and Weiners of the world can do except run for office?


No. No there isn't. Which explains much actually.

Posted by: puddleglum at July 08, 2013 03:19 AM (e3XSL)

55 43 He should sue the state of FL.

Posted by: Socialist States of America at July 08, 2013 03:19 AM (o5EA8)

56 So did Lurch cook and serve to her some fish?  Perhaps he caught it off the yacht?  Or does he only prepare it if the cook is on vacation and it comes out of a can that reads Chicken of the Sea?

Siriusly may she make a full recovery.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:20 AM (WGVAJ)

57 An America in which White House Down is not a hit is an America I truly no longer understand.

Editor in Chief
Cinemablend.com

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 08, 2013 07:17 AM (kdS6q)



I hope the twitter universe gave that fuckhead the slattering he so obviously deserves.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 08, 2013 03:21 AM (gKVL5)

58 From Legal Insurrection over the weekend:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/ we-had-to-pass-the-obamacare-in-order-to-muddle-through-it/

and there is a click-through to the Washington Post.

Apparently, the Friday evening dump (which I had predicted) was the news that verification of individuals' income and eligibility for subsidies in the Obamacare health insurance exchanges will be delayed until 2015. Thus, in 2014 it will be the honor system. Nope, no chance that anyone will take advantage of that, is there?

Posted by: Virginia SoCon once again! at July 08, 2013 03:21 AM (8XUBZ)

59 Oh, yes, remove the space in my link in order for it to work. Pixy wouldn't accept the post otherwise.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon once again! at July 08, 2013 03:21 AM (8XUBZ)

60
Douglas Dayton, who founded US big-box retailer Target has died aged 88. Douglas Dayton's father founded the Minneapolis department store Dayton's in the 1940s. The chain began to expand in the 1960s.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 08, 2013 03:22 AM (kdS6q)

61 He should sue the state of FL. He should OWN the state of FL.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2013 03:22 AM (vWV3A)

62 57 Captain Hate,

Dear Liberal Blabbogenzia we get that he's your boyfriend but we're just not that into him, and frankly he's just not that into you.

//America

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 03:23 AM (LRFds)

63 C5 Galaxy crash landing at Dover
animation with actual pilot conversations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI5xTmmPbsY

They did the same thing.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 08, 2013 03:23 AM (1l4BE)

64 "I have my civil rights gambit before the civil trial." //Eric "My People" Holder I think it the Zimmerman fiasco will go like this: Zimmerman's acquitted, and there is rioting. Zero moves to enact some immediate restrictions restrictions at the local level pertaining to gathering and speaking out against the government. Maybe even a little gun confiscation during the LEO action as well for just good measure as they did in Boston. you know, for the good of the public Nothing significant but something precedent setting. Zimmerman goes to civil trial. IF he settles there will be continued angst and rabble rousing against the 'man'. IF he's acquitted, full on, Mac-Daddy riots. Zero enact martial law and his previous 'insignificant' restrictions gathering and speaking out against the government, and gun confiscation suddenly become justified as reasonable....by his supporters. I hope I am wrong.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 08, 2013 03:24 AM (57bzg)

65 So will Gov. Mark Dayton now retreat from the governor's office and cower in a cabin in the woods.  Fearing someone is out to get him?  Like he did after 9/11?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:24 AM (WGVAJ)

66 so Kerry = Thurston, Theresa = lovey ?

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2013 03:25 AM (8sCoq)

67

He should OWN the state of FL.

 

And use  St. Trayvon's house  for toxic waste storage.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 08, 2013 03:27 AM (zF6Iw)

68 Weekly Standard blog (via Drudge): 'The White House Doesn't See a Path' to Passing Immigration; Paul Ryan's 'Gone Silent' Here's hoping. Keep up the pressure on the House GOP to kill the Senate bill and not bring up anything else.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 03:27 AM (+98Gb)

69 66 Jones in CO,

Oh dear lord, we Howells are old money dear boy and louts who martry for cash such as those cads Jean-Francois and Terrrrezzza Heinz who marry for it are simply not our kind...

//Thurston Howell III esq

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 03:27 AM (LRFds)

70 Here's hoping. Keep up the pressure on the House GOP to kill the Senate bill and not bring up anything else. Shut it down until mid-term elections.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2013 03:28 AM (vWV3A)

71 So did Lurch cook and serve to her some fish? Perhaps he caught it off the yacht? Or does he only prepare it if the cook is on vacation and it comes out of a can that reads Chicken of the Sea?

Siriusly may she make a full recovery.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 07:20 AM (WGVAJ)



Maybe the botox shifted in Lurch's humongous jaw and she thought some genetic mutation had crawled out of the sea.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 08, 2013 03:28 AM (gKVL5)

72 Oh dear lord, we Howells are old money IOW. not smart enough to make it on their own. Inbreeding is such a bitch.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2013 03:30 AM (vWV3A)

73 64 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 08, 2013 07:24 AM (57bzg) Bring it on. Every legal gun owner in the state of Florida should prepare for the possibility of riots and have some sort of plan of action. If a mob sees a group of armed citizens ready to defend their homes and businesses they might think twice. Of course, Holder and SCOAMF can't have any of that, can they?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 03:31 AM (+98Gb)

74 Skandia we don't know if the 777 did the same thing.  That C-5 crew got lost in reading the checklist and seem impatient to land.  So they tuned out ATC and even critical instruments.

A few years ago someone belly landed a C-17 at Bagram.  They had managed to forget to lower the landing gear.
http://youtu.be/AupPdRVJioY

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:31 AM (WGVAJ)

75 I see Time-Warner at roadrunner is still pushing Hillary for 2016.  Evidently her perjury and incompetence as already been flushed down the memory hole.

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 03:32 AM (lZvxr)

76 I see Time-Warner at roadrunner is still pushing Hillary for 2016. Evidently her perjury and incompetence as already been flushed down the memory hole.

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 07:32 AM (lZvxr)



Not to mention her lesbian scissor pal aide Huma's Mooooooooslim brotherhood ties.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 08, 2013 03:34 AM (gKVL5)

77 Teraaazzzaa Heinz Kerry has been rumored to be a very heavy drinker with the usual prescription pill issues as well.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 08, 2013 03:34 AM (6fg3O)

78 Inside the cockpit view of a Turkish Airbus A300 landing at Bagram and suffering a main gear collapse.

http://youtu.be/qYDMor6kUNk

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:35 AM (WGVAJ)

79

Siriusly may she make a full recovery.

........................................

 

 

Isn't she the one that went to Wendys for a photo-op and didn't even know what a bowl of chili was?

Posted by: Molly k. at July 08, 2013 03:36 AM (5D7FQ)

80 If Zimmerman is acquitted based on a self defense argument, can there even be a civil trial? I thought Florida law prevented such things.

Posted by: @johntant at July 08, 2013 03:36 AM (kuV54)

81

Bring it on. Every legal gun owner in the state of Florida should prepare for the possibility of riots and have some sort of plan of action. If a mob sees a group of armed citizens ready to defend their homes and businesses they might think twice.

 

Every sheriff or police chief should announce that anyone - white or black or plaid - who decides to smash and grab as justice for Trayvon will have their heads ventilated.  And be ready to back that up with deadly force.  It's long past time the thug community got told in no uncertain terms that the rest of us are sick of being cowed into submission because of the threat of a riot.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 08, 2013 03:37 AM (zF6Iw)

82 Eliot Spitzer is running for NYC comptroller . . . against his former madam. What is it with these people? Is there seriously nothing else the Spitzers and Weiners of the world can do except run for office?


No.


Serious you guys, no.  I find it fascinating in a train wreck kind of way that the people who yammer on and on about the military industrial complex seems to be utterly unaware that they are cogs in the machine of the consultant think tank public office complex.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 08, 2013 03:37 AM (Gk3SS)

83 The needle on my "BinLadenAin'tReallyDead-O-Meter" just swung hard to the right. This world is just full of WTF these days.

Posted by: Gem at July 08, 2013 03:37 AM (CrTou)

84 There is one plus if the madam gets elected.  At least the madam knows how to keep the books in the black.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:40 AM (WGVAJ)

85 82 AlexTheChick,

Folk forget Ike warned of the Science/Academic/Political complex as well in the same speech.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 03:40 AM (LRFds)

86 #83  Yep.   Either that or the documents show records of how many times they had to ask before they did an end run around Obama and shot him anyway.

I hate not trusting anyone.  It wears me out trying to think of what people are up to.  And they are up to a lot!

Good morning,  all.

Posted by: Miss Marple at July 08, 2013 03:40 AM (GoIUi)

87 National Journal's Josh Kraushaar had perhaps the best of these pieces so far, "Obama's Crisis of Competence." This is like Biden suffering a crisis of intelligence or John Kerry losing his looks.

Posted by: zsasz at July 08, 2013 03:41 AM (MMC8r)

88 Someone should ask Biden to take that police IQ test.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:41 AM (WGVAJ)

89 Scary landings volume two, so there is a volume one somewhere
 (mostly cross wind, or landing gear failure)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSgRfw44x6I
In the previous threads, the guys who do this kind of thing were talking about doing these types of landings.
 

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 08, 2013 03:42 AM (1l4BE)

90 81 MP4,

Municipalities that allow punitive actions against riots will go a long way towards establishing the groundwork needed for recovery.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 03:42 AM (LRFds)

91 This architecture makes me think of Lang's Metropolis.  Or is Andromeda Strain?  Or perhaps Monster X on the alien planet? 
http://www.ufunk.net/photos/subway-nick-frank/

It seems to numb my mind while crushing my soul.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:43 AM (WGVAJ)

92 Certified dimwit Jake Tapper blames lack of fireworks on the sequester; gets slattered by gazillions of tweets telling him what a clueless jackhole he is.  But remember, he's somebody who deep down inside is really really somebody we can trust.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 08, 2013 03:44 AM (gKVL5)

93 Signs the Apocalypse may have already occurred:

Brad Thor (Brad Thor!) coming up next on Fox'n'Friends.

Posted by: comatus at July 08, 2013 03:45 AM (JNUY4)

94
Conservative advocacy group American Action Network will unveil a new television ad Monday titled “Surge,” highlighting the provisions in the so-called border surge plan included in the Senate legislation that passed last month.

The ad touts Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush as “conservative leaders” who back the border surge, and it calls the measure the “tough border security America needs.”

“The conservative border surge plan is tough, enforceable, takes away discretion from the Obama administration, and that would finally secure the border,” Dan Conston, the group’s communications director, said in a statement to be released later Monday. “We hope Americans call their congressperson and tell them to support the conservative plan to secure the border.”

Politico

As conservative as a shrimp taco is kosher......

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 08, 2013 03:45 AM (kdS6q)

95 Maybe there is some hope for humanity.

http://www.ufunk.net/photoblog/bacon-bikini-girl/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:46 AM (WGVAJ)

96 But remember, he's somebody who deep down inside is really really somebody we can trust ..... Celebrity Journalist Jake Tapper? Pshaw!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 08, 2013 03:46 AM (jjvz+)

97 92 Captain Hate,

being in the top 10% of intellectual and ethical powerhouses in the media is like being the world's biggest flea....

"yeah"

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 03:47 AM (LRFds)

98 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 08, 2013 07:45 AM (kdS6q)


That is a Soros funded group.  They are about as conservative as the CBC.

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 03:49 AM (lZvxr)

99 Hey, a Constitutional Convention might be a good idea. TFG is enforcing laws never passed by Congress and ignoring laws duly passed and signed. The founders presumed integrity in the President, which was obviously a big mistake as we now know, but we can make it explicit that the executive must enforce all laws and cannot pass his own. The Obama Amendment.

Posted by: Randy Barnett at July 08, 2013 03:49 AM (+GpbP)

100

93 Signs the Apocalypse may have already occurred:

Brad Thor (Brad Thor!) coming up next on Fox'n'Friends.

.......................................

 

 

Old news...........he was on fb last night asking his fans which cufflinks he should wear tomorrow for his appearance on fox and friends. I didn't vote so I'm not going to turn the tv on to check.....There was a nice little set that looked like grenades so maybe those won.

Posted by: Molly k. at July 08, 2013 03:50 AM (5D7FQ)

101 http://tinyurl.com/mcyvn8f

Of course it just had to be...

TSA groped, interrogated and searched families of survivors....

Salute TSA without you fine people the jails would have more serial assaulters.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 03:51 AM (LRFds)

102 One day must watch this movie - The Devil Rides Out or The Devil's Bride.  Has Christopher Lee in it.  Along with Charles Gray - Blofeld from Diamonds Are Forever.

http://youtu.be/ZlFdPObbrmo

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:53 AM (WGVAJ)

103 Pilot who crashed the plane at SFO had little experience with the aircraft and had never landed one at SFO before. Obama will now call for regulations making it illegal for a pilot to land a plane at an airport unless he has landed there before. You heard me.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 08, 2013 03:54 AM (QXlbZ)

104 I'm trying to figure out what that Bomber in the sidebar story about Jimmy Ward was doing on that bombing run in the first place. Clearly it wasn't carrying any bombs due to the fact that all available space in the bomb bay was occupied by the man's testicles.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 08, 2013 03:55 AM (U37Ux)

105 "What is it with these people?" Uh ... you musta fergot David Vitter. Amended question: What's up with PEOPLE? Suggested answer: Jesus Fracking Crispy Crackers, folks, it's just fucking SEX for cryin' out loud. Get a friggin' grip.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at July 08, 2013 03:55 AM (w45V0)

106 81 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 08, 2013 07:37 AM (zF6Iw) Totally agree. It's just that I fear that the politicians are out to lynch Zimmerman and will not do what you suggest, which is correct and necessary. It's up to an armed citizenry to be prepared.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 03:56 AM (+98Gb)

107 94 As conservative as a shrimp taco is kosher...... Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 08, 2013 07:45 AM (kdS6q) They're NOT? Uh oh...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 03:57 AM (+98Gb)

108 *bangs head into keyboard*

RMS Queen Elizabeth II is now owned by a Dubai company will be used as a floating hotel somewhere in Asia.

http://news.yahoo.com/qe2-ocean-liner-luxury-hotel-asia-under-owners-120600541.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 03:57 AM (WGVAJ)

109 103 Gregory of Yarddale,

It's job security for pilots...of course they'll be 108 year olds flying...

"change that works for you"

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 03:57 AM (LRFds)

110 If you cost $250 million to make, and you  are released over the 5-day Independence Day weekend, hauling in $48.9 million is very very bad. 

To be tripled up by a cartoon sequel only adds to the carnage.

I'm actively rooting for the death of the big Hollywood blockbuster concept, so I don't mind at all. 

I did see World War Z over the weekend.  Big budget.  They should have made a smaller budget movie, or made something closer to the book.  That would have been nice.  Instead, we got Brad Pitt's serious face for two hours, and  gaggles of  cgi "zombies" that may or may not have been zombies. 

Posted by: BurtTC at July 08, 2013 03:57 AM (BeSEI)

111 he was on fb last night asking his fans which cufflinks he should wear tomorrow for his appearance on fox and friends. I didn't vote so I'm not going to turn the tv on to check.....There was a nice little set that looked like grenades so maybe those won. Posted by: Molly k. at July 08, 2013 07:50 AM (5D7FQ) Grenades won.....just saw it. Morning all....

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 08, 2013 03:58 AM (X6akg)

112 WW2 Tweets from 1941 ‏@RealTimeWWII Greek island of Santorini has had no bread for 30 days; 1 Greek refugee reports: "Children, cats, dogs & horses are dying of starvation."

Posted by: toby928© at July 08, 2013 03:59 AM (QupBk)

113 FYI the average daily high for June here was 90.8°.  That was slightly warmer than last year, but cooler than the three years previous to that.


In short, long term cooling.

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 04:00 AM (lZvxr)

114 Morning Tami, how is your Monday?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 04:01 AM (WGVAJ)

115 If I had the connections and funding, I'd love to make a movie about Detroit. There's so much rot and corruption there, and so emblematic of our national decline. It would start with the murder of a prostitute who as it turns out would be connected to a corrupt hip-hop mayor. There would also be a sleazy and corrupt council-woman who tries to use her fading charms to seduce the cop who is investigating the murder. And the cop would end up being framed for a spree killing and there would be a media feeding frenzy as he was hunted down.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 08, 2013 04:02 AM (QXlbZ)

116 A real problem is that our politicians don't fear middle class, armed civil disobedience the way they used to. 

Posted by: Jean at July 08, 2013 04:03 AM (CMlD4)

117 109 Posted by: BurtTC at July 08, 2013 07:57 AM (BeSEI) The rule of thumb is that a film has to make about 3 times its budget just to break even.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 04:03 AM (+98Gb)

118 Speaker Boehner continues to rake in big bucks for the GOP. Assuming you want more Epic Fail I guess that's nice....

Posted by: backhoe at July 08, 2013 04:05 AM (ULH4o)

119 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 08:03 AM (+98Gb)


Under Hollywood accounting rules no movie ever makes any money.

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 04:05 AM (lZvxr)

120 113 Morning Tami, how is your Monday? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 08:01 AM (WGVAJ) So far, not bad. How 'bout you?

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 08, 2013 04:06 AM (X6akg)

121
Brazil referee decapitated after stabbing player

Football spectators in northern Brazil decapitated a referee after he fatally stabbed a player for refusing to leave the pitch, officials say.

BBC




And on free bobble-head night too.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 08, 2013 04:06 AM (kdS6q)

122 Should get busy.  Grocery shopping to do and tackle the dread bills.  Monday.  Plus write and write some more.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 04:07 AM (WGVAJ)

123 It would start with the murder of a prostitute who as it turns out would be connected to a corrupt hip-hop mayor. There would also be a sleazy and corrupt council-woman who tries to use her fading charms to seduce the cop who is investigating the murder. And the cop would end up being framed for a spree killing and there would be a media feeding frenzy as he was hunted down.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 08, 2013 08:02 AM (QXlbZ)



If anybody wrote a script about Kwame's political life, it would be rejected as too implausible for anybody to believe.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 08, 2013 04:07 AM (gKVL5)

124 118 Under Hollywood accounting rules no movie ever makes any money. Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 08:05 AM (lZvxr) Yes, of course. I was speaking hypothetically!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 04:07 AM (+98Gb)

125

pilot had over 10,000 hours in other aircraft like the 747

 

sound like a case where a senior pilot changes aircraft and because of his seniority other crew are reluctant to correct him lest he lose face or they appear disrespectful

 

you see this on occasion with Asian and African pilots

 

I denounce myself

Posted by: thunderb at July 08, 2013 04:07 AM (zOTsN)

126 TSA groped, interrogated and searched families of survivors....

It's the almost daily fresh insults to American dignity that keep me motivated to expatriate.  The USA is #1 in government sponsored ass rape if nothing else.

Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at July 08, 2013 04:08 AM (epxV4)

127 these declarations that immigration reform is dead, don't believe it.   Progs never quit, just playing possum

Posted by: thunderb at July 08, 2013 04:09 AM (zOTsN)

128 114 Gregory of Yarddale,

There's a potential for a satire of the film Threads portraying moonbat governance as the equivalent of a Nuclear Exchange I'd think....

http://youtu.be/_MCbTvoNrAg

Threads 1984

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 04:10 AM (LRFds)

129

and the failure of Obamacare being decried now even by progs?  Doesn't matter.  Its all a push to single payer

 

Obamacare is unworkable, lets have single payer.  Progs never ever quit

Posted by: thunderb at July 08, 2013 04:11 AM (zOTsN)

130 124 Posted by: thunderb at July 08, 2013 08:07 AM (zOTsN) This is actually a very common cause of accidents. Junior pilots often are intimidated by seniors, and will remain silent lest they risk bad ratings, etc. Also, the more experience one has, the more arrogant and less safety conscious one becomes. That was one of the major factors in the 1977 Tenerife disaster. It's why a lot of very experienced woodworkers often have a finger or two missing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 04:12 AM (+98Gb)

131 126 these declarations that immigration reform is dead, don't believe it. Progs never quit, just playing possum Posted by: thunderb at July 08, 2013 08:09 AM (zOTsN) Absolutely true. Even if it fails this time around, it is not dead. It's dormant. If the left ever gave up, they would have quit 100 years ago.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 08, 2013 04:13 AM (+98Gb)

132

I'm in a lousy mood today.  Here's a little essay to depress you, too:  Before-It's-Deleted Of the Day

 

http://tinyurl.com/luuav8e


 

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 08, 2013 04:13 AM (zF6Iw)

133

Taking my little baby girl to overnight camp this morning.

 

I'm cool. I'm totally cool.

 

Ish.

 

(for values of "little baby" up to 10 yrs. old)

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 08, 2013 04:14 AM (SUKHu)

134 >>>>It's why a lot of very experienced woodworkers often have a finger or two missing.<<<<<

They then go on to teach shop in high school.....

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at July 08, 2013 04:14 AM (Nl4r1)

135

lots of aircraft accidents happen when the General decides to take a final flight or two

 

Hubby calls Piper Cub airplanes doctor killers, because they think they are too smart to crash

 

it really doesn't help when there is a cultural imperative to not correct an elder or someone with seniority like in Asia and Africa

 

again, I denounce myself

Posted by: thunderb at July 08, 2013 04:14 AM (zOTsN)

136

Was  ambling around  the interwebs  after reading the story of the  SF Asian Air crash.  Guess what  other aircrash is back in the news again?

 

TWA 800 - the 17th anniversary is  July 17.  A new documentary to be released on July 17.


Posted by: Count de Monet at July 08, 2013 04:16 AM (BAS5M)

137 http://tinyurl.com/mcyvn8f

Of course it just had to be...

TSA groped, interrogated and searched families of survivors....

Salute TSA without you fine people the jails would have more serial assaulters.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 07:51 AM (LRFds)



I couldn't find any mention in the article of any "groping".  I'm as anti those fucksticks as you can get but some of my experiences have been ok imo.  In the chaos that surrounded that crash from that dogshit airline which no airport in their right mind would contract with after their horrible safety record, there are still security standards which have to be maintained.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 08, 2013 04:17 AM (gKVL5)

138 Speaking of not trusting anyone, wtf? http://atfp.co/1a4kADr If the first time was both history and farce, what's the second time?

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 08, 2013 04:18 AM (VtjlW)

139 #92  Tapper is as thin-skinned as TFG.  He will spend all morning blocking people who criticize him.

I know at least 3 people whom he has blocked,  including me,  mild-mannered Midwestern grandma. 

He's playing the role of "tough but fair reporter",  and you aren't allowed to question it.

Posted by: Miss Marple at July 08, 2013 04:19 AM (GoIUi)

140 Miss Marple I adore you but I never think of "mild" when I think of you.  Mr Tapper just realized he was engaging in a battle of wits and was unarmed

Posted by: thunderb at July 08, 2013 04:21 AM (zOTsN)

141 Out of altitude, out of airspeed and 1, 300 feet short is no way to land a plane, son.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 08, 2013 04:21 AM (++Xuv)

142 If anybody wrote a script about Kwame's political life, it would be rejected as too implausible for anybody to believe.

Posted by: Captain Hate

 

Heh.  I recently said  the same thing about Al Gore.  Crusading environmental activist makes hundreds of millions denouncing the evils of fossil fuels, while living in multiple mansions, flying private jets around the world, and selling his television station to an Arab network  backed and funded by an oil rich petro-state.

 

Too hackneyed and unbelievable.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at July 08, 2013 04:22 AM (NF2Bf)

143 Miss Marple could make Jake Tap Out and cry within seconds without even breaking a sweat.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 08, 2013 04:22 AM (gKVL5)

144 Late to the party.

6 Obama to illegally deploy a host of new CO2 regulations this month, unauthorized by Congress. One wonders what would happen if these plants told him to shove them up their ass.

Or Duke Power of the Carolinas could ask for their 3rd rate hike since 2009. Nice pic of Obama voters in tiny. They don't get it.

http://tinyurl.com/kbepzwo

Posted by: Golfman in NC at July 08, 2013 04:22 AM (MRYTR)

145 I was at an outdoor concert/fireworks show at Antietam Battlefield this weekend. The "sequester" was blamed three times by the MC as the reason there would be no cannonfire during the 1812 overture.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 08, 2013 04:23 AM (QXlbZ)

146 Watch me skip this sucker!

Posted by: Korean Pilot at July 08, 2013 04:24 AM (MMC8r)

147 Heh. I recently said the same thing about Al Gore. Crusading environmental activist makes hundreds of millions denouncing the evils of fossil fuels, while living in multiple mansions, flying private jets around the world, and selling his television station to an Arabnetwork backed and funded by an oil rich petro-state.

Too hackneyed and unbelievable.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at July 08, 2013 08:22 AM (NF2Bf)



You left out the part of him dumb as a plank when it comes to science, judging by the grades in the small number of courses he took in college.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 08, 2013 04:25 AM (gKVL5)

148

what

 

no mention of release of the shakras?

 

 

come on people

Posted by: thunderb at July 08, 2013 04:26 AM (zOTsN)

149 you are not the morons I thought you were

Posted by: thunderb at July 08, 2013 04:27 AM (zOTsN)

150 Sgt Ward was flying Vickers Wellingtons when he won the VC. And when he was killed.

Posted by: Fox 2! at July 08, 2013 04:27 AM (XFTOV)

151

Eliot Spitzer is running for NYC comptroller . . . against his former madam. What is it with these people?    Is there seriously nothing else the Spitzers and Weiners of the world can do except run for office?

 

 

Nope.  They are talentless, useless sacks of meat.  So of course they're   only qualified for politics.

 

 

It's looking a lot like pilot error. NTSB isn't saying for sure yet, but there's no reported or observed mechanical failure and the pilot only had 43 hours of flying time on the 777.

 

 

I know nothing about what it takes to become a pilot on a commercial airliner, but I always assumed it    would require closer to 100 hours, at the very least.  A nice, large, triple digit number.    I don't know that it would make much difference, but    it would be    enough of a sop to keep the ignorant    passengers like me from fussing.     I can't be alone in thinking 43 hours is awfully short for such a sizeable aircraft.   

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 08, 2013 04:28 AM (4df7R)

152

Picky, picky.  It was only a rough draft!

 

Crusading environmental activist Pervy envirotard makes hundreds of millions denouncing the evils of fossil fuels, while living in multiple mansions, flying private jets around the world, and selling his television station to an Arabnetwork backed and funded by an oil rich petro-state.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at July 08, 2013 04:29 AM (NF2Bf)

153

Me thinks Ms Heinz Kerry is a lush and that's what led to her seizure, and why they are not discussing it at all.  Which makes me wonder who the girlfriend is, cause I am sure he has one.

Posted by: thunderb at July 08, 2013 04:30 AM (zOTsN)

154

Snort:

 

>>@DanRiehl
Just for the record, I'm not opposed to a two party system, I've just stopped assuming we have one.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 08, 2013 04:30 AM (SUKHu)

155

Animated sequel Despicable Me 2 beat the stuffing out of Gore Verbinski's the Lone Ranger at the box office this weekend. The masked vigilante's $48.9 million haul doesn't seem so bad except that the film cost over $250 million to make, not including promoting costs.

 

 

Nothing about the "Lone Ranger" trailers or posters that I've seen have given me any idea A) what the hell the plot is    or   B) whether or not they stayed true to the Good Guy in the White Hat     archetype that was the Lone Ranger's governing idiom.     Not to mention having Johnny Depp slathered head to toe in black and white body paint    might SOUND alluring, but it doesn't really work like that.

 

Odds that Hollywood abandons its "tent pole films starring guaranteed-returns A-list celebrities" model    of filmmaking?    Still holding steady at zero.   They don't care about the domestic market.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 08, 2013 04:32 AM (4df7R)

156 Yes, I no longer think he's a fool, but a knave, Pappa Manbearpig, got his sinecure through Armand Hammer, the great grandfather of the star of the Ishtar level 'Lone Ranger' crackup.

Posted by: Ted Stryker at July 08, 2013 04:32 AM (VYGs9)

157 Cash-strapped cities are seeing Obamacare as way to unload retiree health costs on the U.S. taxpayer.

Keep in mind that companies like GM were very early supporters of anything like ObamaCare, as they sought to offload their retirees to anything that was legal.

Posted by: Randolf Scott at July 08, 2013 04:33 AM (e8kgV)

158

The Hill joins the chorus of Beltway media outlets noting that Obama has to turn things around or his second term is gonna be a big fat failure. National Journal's Josh Kraushaar had perhaps the best of these pieces so far, "Obama's Crisis of Competence."

 

 

In related news,      American media outlets begin to emerge from     the   cryogenic stasis      under which they've     slept since approximately 2007.    Too bad it's too fucking late   to mean a damn thing.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 08, 2013 04:35 AM (4df7R)

159 *single payer lurks* single payer lurks *single payer lurks*

Posted by: thunderb at July 08, 2013 04:36 AM (zOTsN)

160 Jake Tapper sounds like a vaudeville hoofer.

Posted by: ontherocks at July 08, 2013 04:36 AM (igdOA)

161 pssssttt * they want Obamacare to fail so they get single payer, pass it on*

Posted by: thunderb at July 08, 2013 04:36 AM (zOTsN)

162

Islamists attempted to storm the army barracks where former president Morsi is being held. Some people are dead (the number keeps changing), and the Muslim Brotherhood is calling for an uprising. The Muslim Brotherhood, as is classic for this type of thing, claims that they were engaged merely in peaceful prayer when they were shot at by the army.

 

 

Of course they were.    Don't you reichwingers know that Islam is the     religion of PEACE?  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 08, 2013 04:37 AM (4df7R)

163 @DanRiehl Just for the record, I'm not opposed to a two party system, I've just stopped assuming we have one.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 08, 2013 08:30 AM (SUKHu)



There should be at least three independent prosecutors right now; not that the chinless scrotum face with a dirty Sanchez would approve them since one would be aimed at him.  Instead we have endless hearings which don't solve a fucking thing.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 08, 2013 04:38 AM (gKVL5)

164 Among the most prized and frequently claimed — yet least often demonstrated — virtues in establishment Washington is political independence. Politicians in both the Democratic and Republican parties routinely insist that they are independent. There are even two senators who call themselves “Independent” but both caucus with Senate Democrats and almost never vote contrary to the wishes of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. The truth is there is only one genuinely independent political force in Washington these days, the Tea Party, a fact that is abundantly demonstrated by the future prospects for the recently passed immigration reform bill in the Senate.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at July 08, 2013 04:39 AM (e8kgV)

165 I can't be alone in thinking 43 hours is awfully short for such a sizeable aircraft. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 08, 2013 08:28 AM

Ten thousand hours in a 777 cockpit wouldn't make up for two minutes of brain fade.

Granted, there are differences between the control layouts of, say, a 747, 777 and a DC-3. That was true with all the light aircraft in which I had some flying time, too.

But a competent pilot could fly any damn one of them, especially on a relatively calm CAVU day. This was not a situation where the pilot had to respond to some catastrophic issue. All he had to do was fly the damned plane.

I was surprised to hear Sullenberger say the NTSB would have to investigate the shutdown of the airport's landing-assist system, as if that might have been a major factor. If the pilot can't land an airplane all by his lonesome under average conditions he should not be in the left seat.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 08, 2013 04:39 AM (/RIVS)

166

>>In related news, American media outlets begin to emerge from the cryogenic stasis under which they've slept since approximately 2007. 

 

I can't give them that much credit.

 

Their goal now is to get Hillary elected. Because we need her EXPERIENCE.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 08, 2013 04:40 AM (SUKHu)

167 I was at an outdoor concert/fireworks show at Antietam Battlefield this weekend. The "sequester" was blamed three times by the MC as the reason there would be no cannonfire during the 1812 overture.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 08, 2013 08:23 AM (QXlbZ).

.

.

I call BS.  I know at least one Civil War reenacting unit that does that stuff for free.  Heck they even bring their own powder.

Posted by: Johnnyreb at July 08, 2013 04:41 AM (6McTJ)

168 120   Brazil referee decapitated after stabbing player

Football spectators in northern Brazil decapitated a referee after he fatally stabbed a player for refusing to leave the pitch, officials say.
BBC

And on free bobble-head night too.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 08, 2013 08:06 AM (kdS6q)


Stuff like this is why I laugh when people claim that there's been progress in human civilization. What there is of intelligence doesn't breed fast enough to make a dent in the overall human population. The stupid and deranged breed faster.

Posted by: dissent555 at July 08, 2013 04:41 AM (yR6A1)

169 he had 10,000 hours in a 747.  That's why the crew was reluctant to correct him I'll bet

Posted by: thunderb at July 08, 2013 04:41 AM (zOTsN)

170 Sorry I meant Heaven's Gate level crackup, since Reid resembles the hero of that Cimino ego trip,

Posted by: Ted Stryker at July 08, 2013 04:42 AM (VYGs9)

171 Anybody know why there was no gun thread this weekend?

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at July 08, 2013 04:42 AM (31Nrp)

172 Their goal now is to get Hillary elected. Because we need her EXPERIENCE.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 08, 2013 08:40 AM (SUKHu)

 

 

*spit!*  

 

 

That clumsy whore couldn't find her ass with both hands, a flashlight, a GPS and a professional spelunker.   But I'm preaching to the choir, I know.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 08, 2013 04:43 AM (4df7R)

173

So,

Cities will push retirees onto federally subsidized plans to balance their books.

More book balancing at the expense of the federal government.  I like that many states have Balanced Budget rules, but until the federal government also has one, it's pretty F'ing meaningless.

And why is it, despite our talking about the FSA, every democrat created program seems to be an even bigger wealth transfer from the young to the old. (which is probably even stupider than rich to poor.)

Posted by: tsrblke at July 08, 2013 04:43 AM (GaqMa)

174 The truth is there is only one genuinely independent political force in Washington these days, the Tea Party, Yep.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at July 08, 2013 04:44 AM (JQuNB)

175 Their goal now is to get Hillary elected. Because we need her EXPERIENCE.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 08, 2013 08:40 AM (SUKHu)



The only experience that bloated dust elephant had during the last 4 years was international happy hour to the point of falling down drunk with her Moooooslim Brotherhood linked scissors pal.  There's not one item of success she can point to as far as improving relations with a single country.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 08, 2013 04:44 AM (gKVL5)

176 FDNY ‏@FDNY 13m

MAN ALL HANDS 349 W 4 ST, MULTIPLE DWELLING FIRE IN THE COCKLOFT, UNDER CONTROL

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2013 04:44 AM (8sCoq)

177 48 hours of nonstop coverage of a pilot who had 43 hours flight time.

Posted by: RWC at July 08, 2013 04:44 AM (fWAjv)

178 170 Anybody know why there was no gun thread this weekend? Sequester got it.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at July 08, 2013 04:45 AM (JQuNB)

179 sorry I just thought 'cockloft' was a funny word

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2013 04:46 AM (8sCoq)

180 Chakras?  We want Sharknado with even more electrolytes!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 08, 2013 04:46 AM (WGVAJ)

181 It's Conquistador Coffee level of success, out there Captain.

Posted by: Ted Stryker at July 08, 2013 04:46 AM (VYGs9)

182
McCain calls Morsi ouster a coup dÂ’etat, urges blocking aid




Boy, John is really into The Jihardy Boys lately.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 08, 2013 04:47 AM (kdS6q)

183 170 Anybody know why there was no gun thread this weekend? Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at July 08, 2013 08:42 AM (31Nrp) Why do you NEED a gun thread?

Posted by: RWC at July 08, 2013 04:47 AM (fWAjv)

184 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 08, 2013 04:48 AM (/PCJa)

185 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 08, 2013 04:48 AM (/PCJa)

186 So when FNC tweets 'watch new video of crash' what they really mean is 'watch new video of plane on the runway with smoke coming out of it'

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2013 04:48 AM (8sCoq)

187 I'm not a fan of Slate, however, Insty has a link to a great article there about the militarization of US law enforcement. It was written by Radly Balko, perhaps the foremost expert on the subject. It's a really good read, considering the source: http://tinyurl.com/n46he3d Hint: if the cops ever come to your house hide your dog in the closet. Cops love shooting them, pretext or not.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 08, 2013 04:48 AM (tOkJB)

188 Has the Zimmerman lynching trial restarted yet?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 08, 2013 04:48 AM (/PCJa)

189 Anybody know why there was no gun thread this weekend?

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at July 08, 2013 08:42 AM (31Nrp)

 

We didn't like its tone.

Posted by: The NSA at July 08, 2013 04:50 AM (GaqMa)

190 McRINO is more passionate about Morsi that he was about his own dipshit run for President.  That fucking simpleton is more of a flatliner than his whore daughter.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 08, 2013 04:50 AM (gKVL5)

191 Hillary is not going to run.  Remember the little accident she had awhile back?  That was a stroke, not a little fall from being dehydrated.  She is done and she knows it.  Ever notice that pretty much after that incident she has been avoiding television and cameras? 

Posted by: Johnnyreb at July 08, 2013 04:50 AM (6McTJ)

192

AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 08, 2013 08:48 AM (/PCJa)

 

at 9:00 am EST.

Posted by: @JohnTant at July 08, 2013 04:50 AM (eytER)

193 "Gentlemen, gentlemen, we must protect our phoney-bologna jobs!!"

Posted by: Your Politicians (I - indistinguishable ) at July 08, 2013 04:51 AM (U838B)

194 harrumph

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2013 04:51 AM (8sCoq)

195

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 08, 2013 08:47 AM (kdS6q)

 

There's probably a legitimate consistency argument that we should follow our own rules (which probably say we should cut off aid in this case)

Granted I'd have liked to see the aid cut off a while ago .

Posted by: tsrblke at July 08, 2013 04:52 AM (GaqMa)

196

>>>>I know at least one Civil War reenacting unit that does that stuff for free. Heck they even bring their own powder.

 

But the .gov agencies are buying up all the cannonballs, prompting many to speculate they'll be using ordnance against hapless suburbanites in short order

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at July 08, 2013 04:52 AM (3ZtZW)

197 170 Anybody know why there was no gun thread this weekend? Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at July 08, 2013 08:42 AM (31Nrp) Probably because I sent my first "gun of the week" suggestion in.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 08, 2013 04:53 AM (tOkJB)

198

>>The only experience that bloated dust elephant had during the last 4 years was international happy hour to the point of falling down drunk with her Moooooslim Brotherhood linked scissors pal. There's not one item of success she can point to as far as improving relations with a single country.

 

Soon we will hear about how we need her to fix Obamacare because of her EXPERIENCE with health care reform from the 90's.

 

(From libs who were 12 during her stunning failure back then)

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 08, 2013 04:53 AM (SUKHu)

199
47% of babies studied have flat spots on heads

An education campaign launched in 1992 to have healthy babies sleep on their backs is credited with a 50% decrease in the infant mortality rate in the U.S. from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome.

But along with the decline has come greater awareness of a condition called positional plagiocephaly, in which an infant's head is flattened or misshapen, from too much time in the back position in the first months of life.

USA Today




Umm -- can't you just even them out with a little bondo or something?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 08, 2013 04:53 AM (kdS6q)

200 President Jones in CO wouldn't send a fucking nickel to any Middle Eastern state except Israel.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2013 04:53 AM (8sCoq)

201 Hillary is not going to run. Remember the little accident she had awhile back? That was a stroke, not a little fall from being dehydrated. She is done and she knows it. Ever notice that pretty much after that incident shehas beenavoiding television and cameras? We're talking about a party which will elect dead people. A mere stroke is nothing. Beyond that- avoiding the media could, just as logically, be a way of creating distance between herself and TFG without actually having to come out and say negative things about him.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 08, 2013 04:54 AM (/PCJa)

202

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 08, 2013 08:53 AM (kdS6q)

 

Good Golly, when it's time to have kiddos I need to make sure I don't let my wife read any major news source, or we'll end up having to keep the kids in plastic bubble wrap.

"Do this, no that, no that, this!"

Posted by: tsrblke at July 08, 2013 04:56 AM (GaqMa)

203 I read a study of airline crashes involving Asian pilots where it was found that one of the contributing factors was the Oriental social rank structure. You don't criticize or correct your superior. Period. I read the flight recorder transcript of one of these crashes and you could see where the co-pilot sees what is going wrong and tries to tactfully and meekly suggest action to his captain, who was a blowhard and totally lost as to what his situation was. Supposedly, they brought in American pilots to train that out of them, but that kind of cultural inertia is hard to overcome. I'll be interested to see if the right-seater noticed what was happening. Hard to believe they were both oblivious.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 08, 2013 04:57 AM (++Xuv)

204

McRINO is more passionate about Morsi that he was about his own dipshit run for President. That fucking simpleton is more of a flatliner than his whore daughter.

 

The fact that that ambulatory shitstain didn't get his ass spelunked in PMITA fed lockup after the Keating Five should have been a hint that the addled old motherfucker will only leave the Senate feet first.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 08, 2013 04:58 AM (zF6Iw)

205 This always happens, the left always forces sanctions against Batista, Somoza, et al, the 'freezing out' of Zapata's successors in Honduras.

Posted by: Ted Stryker at July 08, 2013 04:58 AM (VYGs9)

206 196 Ed Anger,

http://tinyurl.com/kctvzdl

I tried a one post gun thread last night....

I'm going to make a replica Colt 608 Air Crew Survival Rifle I think...

Probably make it 16" b/c I don't want to deal with the SBR rules.

Happy hunting

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 04:59 AM (LRFds)

207 Well, dung; the news is bad news. Except for johnnyreb's speculation that HR Clinton maybe had a stroke. I smiled at that. Drink or shoot black powder pistol? Which should it be today?

Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 08, 2013 05:00 AM (U838B)

208

"Ambulatory shitstain."

 

MP4, you have a gift for rhetoric...I think I need to add that one to my repertoire. 

Posted by: @JohnTant at July 08, 2013 05:00 AM (PFy0L)

209 Hint: if the cops ever come to your house hide your dog in the closet. Cops love shooting them, pretext or not. Posted by: Ed Anger at July 08, 2013 08:48 AM (tOkJB) As Insty has said, what is it with cops and dogs? I'm currently stuck on those poor girls who got swarmed upon for the crime of being sorority girls who went to the grocery store. Why on earth did one of the agents draw his weapon and why the hell are ABC agents staking out that hotbed of crime, Harris Teetter, doing armed in the first place?
While I do give credit to the DA who listened to the 911 tape and basically said wtf I'm not prosecuting that are you people high, I would dearly love to know why the agents were cleared of any wrong doing in the first place. It will be interesting to see what happens now that the case is being reviewed again.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 08, 2013 05:00 AM (VtjlW)

210 > I read a study of airline crashes involving Asian pilots where it was found that one of the contributing factors was the Oriental social rank structure.

You don't criticize or correct your superior. Period.



I have read similar articles about why Arab armies perform so poorly in the field. Because of their culture, they cannot embrace a command structure that leads to success. They cannot comprehend delegating authority, admitting fault, or seeking out contrary points of view.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2013 05:01 AM (8sCoq)

211 200 Allen G,

If she's functionally brain dead that is a feature not a bug.  It enables the Ogabe gang to run her as a "conservative democrat" to keep unions on the plantation and Val Jar to still run things.  Scarier than a functional Clinton gang actually.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 05:01 AM (LRFds)

212 >Why on earth did one of the agents draw his weapon and why the hell are ABC agents staking out that hotbed of crime, Harris Teetter, doing armed in the first place?


because demon rum leads to dancing

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2013 05:02 AM (8sCoq)

213 I read the flight recorder transcript of one of these crashes and you could see where the co-pilot sees what is going wrong and tries to tactfully and meekly suggest action to his captain, who was a blowhard and totally lost as to what his situation was. Reminds me of the article linked a while back where a Russian(?) General was yelling at the recorded cockpit warning not to tell him how to fly a plane. It will be interesting to see what happens now that the case is being reviewed again. Are any of the girls in some protected "victim" group? No? Then the officers will be cleared of wrongdoing (again).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 08, 2013 05:03 AM (/PCJa)

214 Captain Hate,

You caught me I assumed b/c it alluded to "searching" that the TSA worked groping in.

It seemed a safe bet, but I stand corrected and should have said "likely groping"...

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 08, 2013 05:03 AM (LRFds)

215 Are any of the girls in some protected "victim" group? No? Then the officers will be cleared of wrongdoing (again). Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 08, 2013 09:03 AM (/PCJa) Ahhh but see I believe they will be found guilty of embarrassing the higher ups which is the true crime here. Thus someone will get a suspension with pay and then be moved quietly to an office on the other side of the hall. In random thoughts, does anyone know what happened to that NJ couple cited for having a bird feeder in their yard? A quick bing search found the initial articles but no follow ups.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 08, 2013 05:05 AM (VtjlW)

216 I imagine Captain Hate milking timber rattler venom for his morning tonic cocktail.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 08, 2013 05:05 AM (U838B)

217 You don't criticize or correct your superior. Period. Actually, this is true in much of the world. The Brits only picked up that kind of "polite insubordination" from us after a World War or two. I remember it being said that the Axis particularly hated American troops, because a) American troops had no problem targeting officers and b) You could kill the American Officers and the troops would keep trying to reach their objective. Those were (I'm told) 180 degrees off the way the rest of the world did it. We don't so much have a "line of command" as a "Oh, fine, if you insist" of command.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 08, 2013 05:07 AM (/PCJa)

218 dump up

Posted by: Vic at July 08, 2013 05:08 AM (lZvxr)

219 So last night on Fox Radio News at midnight they were trotting out Bush43 to shill for the new amnesty bill. It was pathetic.

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at July 08, 2013 05:08 AM (VWfCN)

220 "Coroner thinks one of the teenage girls killed at that crash was struck by an emergency vehicle."

This is Commiefornia we're talking about. A public sector organization in Commiefornia. You can be sure that the drivers of that vehicle were selected for reasons other than operational competence. Ticking the right box on the "diversity" mix is what matters here. Actual ability to perform the job hired for does not matter at all.

Those of you who don't live here would do well to remember that before booking travel to or through Commiefornia.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 08, 2013 05:10 AM (gqT4g)

221 198 47% of babies studied have flat spots on heads ... The Adena people of Ohio liked to use boards to make their little babies grow up to be coneheads. It's a cultural thing, so who are we to judge the head flatteners?

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 08, 2013 05:12 AM (tOkJB)

222 If and I do mean if Zimmerman is acquitted Holder and Zero will  take him into protective custody as a "material witness" and he will join Nakoula in the federal gulag as a political prisoner - bank on that.

Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] . An Observation at July 08, 2013 05:12 AM (ylhEn)

223

From the Obamacare article in Bloomberg: "The clinic, which serves patients who speak more than 50 different languages, illustrates a challenge Washington state will face as it launches its new health insurance exchange as part of the federal Affordable Care Act. "

 

 

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That must be an extremely small clientele.

 

 

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 08, 2013 05:13 AM (pxDth)

224 "So last night on Fox Radio News at midnight they were trotting out Bush43 to shill for the new amnesty bill. It was pathetic."

Hey, when I'm trying to plot the long-term competitive future for *my* political party, the guy I always turn to is someone on whose watch the party suffered its biggest losses in voter affiliation in thirty years.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 08, 2013 05:13 AM (gqT4g)

225 Actually, this is true in much of the world. The Brits only picked up that kind of "polite insubordination" from us after a World War or two.

I remember it being said that the Axis particularly hated American troops, because a) American troops had no problem targeting officers and b) You could kill the American Officers and the troops would keep trying to reach their objective. Those were (I'm told) 180 degrees off the way the rest of the world did it.

We don't so much have a "line of command" as a "Oh, fine, if you insist" of command.


The American army has such a thing as a "Battlefield Commission" ( see Murphy, Audie) the rest of the world - not so much. Americans have always been an enterprising bunch - even in the military. Somebody has to lead in combat - so an American will do what is required.

Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] . An Observation at July 08, 2013 05:19 AM (ylhEn)

226 "I remember it being said that the Axis particularly hated American troops, because a) American troops had no problem targeting officers and b) You could kill the American Officers and the troops would keep trying to reach their objective. Those were (I'm told) 180 degrees off the way the rest of the world did it."

The Wehrmacht actually were the first major army to routinely plan to handle combat losses of officers, something that started long before WWII. Subordinates were trained from the very first day to be able to smoothly step in to command. And they did.

German officers also overwhelmingly thought the American army to be poorly officered and incompetently led. What they disliked about fighting Americans was the absolutely unending flow of U.S. material and weapons that they just could do nothing about. It's tough to beat an enemy when that enemy will routinely soak up losses at a rate of 7 or 8 to 1 (as was common in American v. German armor battles) and still be able to sustain the fight.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 08, 2013 05:23 AM (gqT4g)

227

It's tough to beat an enemy when that enemy will routinely soak up losses at a rate of 7 or 8 to 1 (as was common in American v. German armor battles) and still be able to sustain the fight.

 

It's like playing Missle Command.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 08, 2013 05:31 AM (BAS5M)

228 178 sorry I just thought 'cockloft' was a funny word Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2013 08:46 AM (8sCoq) A "cockloft" is the shared open space above connected buildings such as stores or some urban dwellings A fire in the cockloft is bad news since it can quickly spread to multiple businesses/dwellings But the word itself is kinda funny I admit

Posted by: Nighthawk at July 08, 2013 05:41 AM (0qalu)

229 #208

When I was ten years old, I was home alone and heard a noise. I didn't know that some kid on the other side of some idiot conflict had claimed my older brother had a gun and somebody had called the police. I stepped out of my room to find a Ventura County Sheriff's deputy at the other end of the hall doing the full Hogan's Alley pose, ready to shoot me.

He had me come into the living room and my sister's dog, a smallish Great Dane, was in the back yard and becoming very upset. I went to try to calm the dog and the Deputy Jackass threatened to shoot him if I didn't succeed.

I suppose I could have developed a very negative attitude about cops in general. Ventura County certainly wasn't hiring the cream of the crop back then.

Posted by: epobirs at July 08, 2013 05:45 AM (kcfmt)

230 "NTSB isn't saying for sure yet, but there's no reported or observed mechanical failure and..."

Well, the South Korean authorities seem to think there might have been. They're supposedly ordering inspections of 777s belonging to Korean Air and Asiana, for whatever that's worth. Looks a lot like ass-covering to me...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at July 08, 2013 07:49 AM (vd7A8)

231 Empire of Jeff : This! How could all the instruments giving air speed be wrong - someone wasn't paying attention...

Posted by: Rob in Katy at July 08, 2013 11:45 AM (gdGJ1)

232 What's the second-worst thing a pilot can have on his record?
Answer- A pilot-error caused accident.
Worst?
A pilot-error caused accident and be dead.
Well, maybe not. There's always that big policy payoff going to your widow.

Posted by: EROWMER at July 08, 2013 01:34 PM (OONaw)

233

Train crash in Quebec...transporting oil by rail...instead of Keystone (or other) pipe:

"Montreal Maine & Atlantic is one of many North American railroads that have vastly stepped up shipments of crude oil as pipelines from North Dakota and from oil-producing regions in Western Canada fill to capacity, and the accident is bound to raise concern about the practice of transporting oil by rail."

Posted by: JCW at July 10, 2013 07:36 AM (45NJs)

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