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August 14, 2013

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— Gabriel Malor

Happy Wednesday.

Regarding Sen. Cruz's eligibility, both Ace and Allah gave pragmatic, policy reasons why he'd be considered constitutionally eligible. I vastly prefer Drew's short and sweet examination of whether he'd be legally eligible, which (spoiler) he is.

Speaking of birthers, it occurs to me that one reason GOP Congressmen would avoid town halls is to avoid embarrassing viral videos where they get confronted by birthers. This has happened twice in the past two weeks.

Also, recall that Congressfolk are generally motivated by one thing: getting reelected. If town halls make it harder for them to get reelected then of course they're going to avoid town halls. And that's what's really going on here. You don't hold a town hall to win voters. It's not your average voter that attends anyway. And, despite the rosy view of 2009, the town halls that made news were the Democratic and squishy town halls, where tea party activists embarrassed incumbents right out of office. The town halls were a vehicle, not to empower Congressmen, but to attack them. Of course Congressfolk are avoiding them now.

Just look back at the article that Ace cited to see who is demanding town halls. A "conservative grass-roots volunteer." And "Matt Kibbe, the president of FreedomWorks." From Pennsylvania, "a Tea Party group." These people aren't pushing for town halls because they like their representatives. They're pushing for town halls to make a scene. Good for them. But I don't see why their representatives would agree to that. Particularly when these activists have come right out and stated their motives.

In case you missed it, National Review has a solid piece on how the House leadership is shutting down the shutdown talk.

Also, both Ed and Guy are writing about the delay tactic as opposed to the defund demands, something I talked about in our last podcast. Though this is a debate of tactics, it is predictably being portrayed as a debate of principles. Which, keep on keeping on that dream of Obama signing repeal of his signature legislation, I guess. Gosh, wouldn't that be more likely if we took back the Senate, though, wouldn't it?

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1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Wednesday, August 14, 2013. On this day in 1935 the SS tax became law. When the law was being debated: "one Senator asked Secretary of Labor Frances Perkins, "Isn't this socialism?" She said that it was not, but he continued, "Isn't this a teeny-weeny bit of socialism?

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

2 Egypt didn't have anything to do so they raided a Morsi camp. McShitty hardest hit.

http://tinyurl.com/oqsku35

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

3 AFL-CIO admits someone flushed the toilet and they are circling.

http://tinyurl.com/n6mzmrz

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

4 In honor of the Congress critters
http://youtu.be/AjPau5QYtYs

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 02:54 AM (2+EWn)

5 I am glad I am not in the Indian Navy.

http://tinyurl.com/o584ga5

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

6 Filthy Filner banned from Hooters. Too bad you turd, no tatas for you.

http://tinyurl.com/k8u29el

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2013 02:55 AM (lZvxr)

7 Sign of the times; Rodeo clowns must now go to "sensitivity training". Gee where was all of this horseshit when Bush was around? Of course we could get a racist organization to investigate.

http://tinyurl.com/k2j2z74

http://tinyurl.com/m9dqj5a

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2013 02:55 AM (lZvxr)

8 More evidence of an oncoming ice age. Horseshit looking asshole hardest hit.

http://tinyurl.com/kz3vnkl

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2013 02:55 AM (lZvxr)

9 Ratshit Rubio: Hey if Republicans don't rush to grant amnesty the Democrats will beat us to it.

http://tinyurl.com/laz3yro

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2013 02:56 AM (lZvxr)

10 Vic, well the first problem is. It just returned from being fixed in Russia.

"Dmitri!! Did you remember the vodka in the battery room?"

"Opps?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 02:56 AM (2+EWn)

11 What if we gave a stupid rally and nobody came?

http://tinyurl.com/keoetr8

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2013 02:56 AM (lZvxr)

12 Meanwhile Mcshitty says "if they want a fence, lets tear it down".

http://tinyurl.com/mqlsvdr

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2013 02:57 AM (lZvxr)

13 The Filthy Filner trend moves to NYC. Ladies, don't drink beer at Yankee Stadium.

http://tinyurl.com/koqjmvq

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2013 02:57 AM (lZvxr)

14 Kindle Daily Deals

http://tinyurl.com/p4ugppb

That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2013 02:57 AM (lZvxr)

15 25 minute video of the Japanese tsunami from two years ago. How deceptive it all is as the water slowly returns. Then the speed and amount of water rapidly increases. Then its over the retaining wall and flooding into a park and parking lot that it proceeded to turn into a whirlpool of cars and debris.

http://tinyurl.com/kcs7d8g

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 03:01 AM (2+EWn)

16 DAY 280 1,181 to go (1,254 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2013 03:01 AM (+98Gb)

17 I guess I'm lucky. My rep had a town hall meeting Monday which went well and was pretty productive. Though, I do admit he's one of the good ones who is here in the community a lot, always interacting with us and it feels like he actually listens and cares about what we want. That seems to be rare these days.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 14, 2013 03:03 AM (gaOtJ)

18 Morning all, Vic, JJ. New day, new outrage.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 03:03 AM (pHivF)

19 So let me see if I understand Gabe correctly. If constituents are demanding to see their reps because they fear that they may be squishes, and the reps fear their constituents because they know that they are squishes, then the reps are perfectly justified in dodging town hall meetings because they are to be respected or something? Is that about the size of it? Gevalt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2013 03:04 AM (+98Gb)

20 Even Canada no longer has respect for the United States. They have issued a $2 CDN commemorative coin depicting the defeat of USS Chesapeake by HMS Shannon during the War of 1812.

http://tinyurl.com/mx58zb8

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 03:04 AM (2+EWn)

21 I wonder if Gerry Nadler or Gary Ackerman are having town halls. Heh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2013 03:06 AM (+98Gb)

22 My Congress Critter Jim Bridenstine has meetings and ice cream socials and invites me to them by email so the NSA is fully looped into his nefarious actions. But the poor lad, freshman that he is, keeps voting like a Conservative, not a Republican. His first vote was to not confirm Boner as speaker.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 03:08 AM (kXoT0)

23 CNBC just reported that a UPS cargo plane, an airbus 300 crashed and I think she said at airport in alabama. They said they'd keep audience posted as more info comes in.

Posted by: caustic at August 14, 2013 03:08 AM (/b8+5)

24 In addition, when it comes to Town Halls, I think Congressfolk have to remember, "you give respect, you get respect in return." If the people you represent are feeling like you ignore them, or are treating them like fools, then don't be surprised when they show up a little pissed off. I have a feeling there are a lot of people across the board out there who feel neglected and abused by Congress. As Ms AtC says, they need to be reminded that they work for us.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 14, 2013 03:09 AM (gaOtJ)

25 I did not need the Daily Mail to tell me something I observe every single day.

http://tinyurl.com/kjaxgv8

On the other hand, I feel so.....so....validated

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 03:09 AM (6T8Ay)

26 Is that about the size of it?

Gevalt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2013 07:04 AM (+98Gb)

-- Wouldn't want to make them uncomfortable

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 14, 2013 03:10 AM (R8hU8)

27 ChemJeff talks of having a secret volcano lair for his mad scientist lab. Trust the Chinese to create a lair with all the modern conveniences.

Meet Professor Zhang who demolished over six years his rooftop penthouse and transformed it into a mountaintop retreat with gardens.
http://now.msn.com/mountain-palace-constructed-on-beijing-rooftop?ocid=ansnowex

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 03:10 AM (2+EWn)

28 Da du du du Gabe supporting the RINO position 365 days a year and 3666 when needed....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:10 AM (A4hKL)

These people aren't pushing for town halls because they like their representatives. They're pushing for town halls to make a scene. Good for them. But I don't see why their representatives would agree to that. Particularly when these activists have come right out and stated their motives.

Jesus fucking tapdancing beer-swilling Christ on a crutch. Has it ever occurred to you, Gabe, that these "activists" (clever way of dismissing them, I must admit) are "pushing for town halls to make a scene" because the low life cocksuckers who call themselves representatives will not respond, will not meet and will not explain themselves to the goddamn people who put them in office in the first place?!? How the fuck else are they to get these assholes' attention if not by making a scene? With outright violence? Because peaceful redress sure as shit isn't working right now.

Fuck this. There's no story today. I repeat MWRs post from one of yesterday's threads on the worthless DC cockholsters:

*sigh*

Fuck everything. I hate everybody right now, and I've got to find something to punch that's not going to break my g-ddamned hand because I do too much fucking typing to deal with a cast.

I'm out.

Peace.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 14, 2013 03:10 AM (zF6Iw)

30 3 Vic,

AFL- E I O E I EI O is a lot like Barack Obama....a necessary evil best flushed and expelled as soon as possible to get the toxins out.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:12 AM (A4hKL)

31 Yup, MPPP.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 14, 2013 03:12 AM (gaOtJ)

32 If the people you represent are feeling like you ignore them, or are treating them like fools, then don't be surprised when they show up a little pissed off. I have a feeling there are a lot of people across the board out there who feel neglected and abused by Congress. As Ms AtC says, they need to be reminded that they work for us. Show up with some rope. About 3 foot. Just for symbolism.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 03:12 AM (pHivF)

33 Heard some interesting news this morning on 610 AM in Colimbus, apologies if already covered here--remember all those horrible government furloughs? They're happening, uh, not so much. Many of those fed employees are still getting 100% of their government salary.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at August 14, 2013 03:13 AM (d7H2D)

34 Gabe making excuses for the ruling class not interacting with the unwashed? It must be a day ending in 'y' Btw thanks to Golfman for the Mercury rec.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 14, 2013 03:13 AM (ySHbj)

35 Obviously representatives would prefer to avoid unpleasant and risky encounters. Too bad. Their job is not simply to work to keep their job. Their job is to work to deserve to keep their job. They are our employees. Yeah, they don't want to visit the boss's office where they might get an earful. Boo fucking hoo.

Posted by: eman at August 14, 2013 03:13 AM (AO9UG)

36 9 Vic,

I notice that the inverse has NEVER happened once...

not a single time in my life has the democrat party had to cave on any of their views lest "the GOP do it anyway"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:13 AM (A4hKL)

37 God damn do i hate birthers.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at August 14, 2013 03:14 AM (HEa5q)

38 19 JJ Sefton,

You translated from the closeted donk pretty effectively JJ....you may have a second career yet.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:14 AM (A4hKL)

39 Even Canada no longer has respect for the United States. They have issued a $2 CDN commemorative coin depicting the defeat of USS Chesapeake by HMS Shannon during the War of 1812.

http://tinyurl.com/mx58zb8
Posted by: Anna Puma

We should burn Windsor for that

Posted by: Fenian Bastard at August 14, 2013 03:15 AM (CMlD4)

40 I was under the impression that my senators never have town halls as we never hear anything about them if they do. Everyone assumes anything townhalley would occur upstate. NY daily news has an article. They apparently do talk but they don't want to talk about healthcare. http://tinyurl.com/lf3sn77

Posted by: caustic at August 14, 2013 03:15 AM (/b8+5)

41 Jesus fucking tapdancing beer-swilling Christ on a crutch. Has it ever occurred to you, Gabe, that these "activists" (clever way of dismissing them, I must admit) are "pushing for town halls to make a scene" because the low life cocksuckers who call themselves representatives will not respond, will not meet and will not explain themselves to the goddamn people who put them in office in the first place?!? How the fuck else are they to get these assholes' attention if not by making a scene? With outright violence? Because peaceful redress sure as shit isn't working right now.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 14, 2013 07:10 AM (zF6Iw)

This times a bazillion and if I get banned so be it...but birthers and other verifiers who confront their reps regarding a lot of Obama's hidden and murky past are obstreperous nutjobs, but activists who confronted their reps on DOMA, DADT, and gay marriage are courageous heroes? Have I got that right?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 03:16 AM (kXoT0)

42 Have I got that right?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 07:16 AM (kXoT0

-- Yes

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 14, 2013 03:17 AM (R8hU8)

43 Hey, no burning Windsor! It'll disrupt the supply of Canadian whiskey

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at August 14, 2013 03:18 AM (d7H2D)

44 They found enough waste to cover most of the sequestration pain ... imagine that the bureaucracy survives.

Posted by: Fenian Bastard at August 14, 2013 03:18 AM (CMlD4)

45 So let me see if I understand Gabe correctly. If constituents are demanding to see their reps because they fear that they may be squishes, and the reps fear their constituents because they know that they are squishes, then the reps are perfectly justified in dodging town hall meetings because they are to be respected or something?

Is that about the size of it?

Gevalt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2013 07:04 AM (+98Gb)

---------------

Most commonly known as the "asking for it" defense. They wouldn't have to lie to us if we didn't insist on asking them questions.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 14, 2013 03:18 AM (Zswg6)

46 Gabe: But I don't see why their representatives would agree to that.

Maybe because their fucking job isn't to get re-elected but to represent their constituents. And doing that means listening to them once in a while. And if they can't be assed to do that, then what good are they? Look folks, democracy (and lets just go with that pedants and not go into the whole republic thing) isn't the right choice because there's some cosmic Sid Meier out there that set up the rules such that it's the objective truth, it's so the citizen has some buy in to the game. And without that the government doesn't have the consent of the people and then we start talking about tyranny, tree of liberty, and all that fun stuff. So how's about the politicians fucking choke back their disdain, hold their noses, and damn well deal with the citizens of their districts? Because the tar and feathers are looking better and better every day.

Or nooses. Either or.

Posted by: J. Random Dude at August 14, 2013 03:18 AM (72afg)

47 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 14, 2013 07:10 AM (zF6Iw)

What MP4 said. Spot on.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at August 14, 2013 03:19 AM (MnSla)

48 41 Sherry McEvil,

You've grasped the hidden message....

I figure in 6 montrhs the REAL Republicans will be explaining that "Stoned with Wendy" means we need to cave on abortion....

one of the joys of my life will be wiping the smug off the RINO enablers face with a straight ticket D vote....

you want to empower democrat policy RINO dumnpling gang let's cut out the middle man.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:20 AM (A4hKL)

49 I guess Sean now you want to requisition enough Metallic Blue Pearl to paint your commuter AFV?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 03:20 AM (2+EWn)

50 We swear - we know the rules regarding whiskey -- pillage first, then burn

Posted by: Fenian Bastard at August 14, 2013 03:21 AM (CMlD4)

51 And without that the government doesn't have the consent of the people and then we start talking about tyranny, tree of liberty, and all that fun stuff. So how's about the politicians fucking choke back their disdain, hold their noses, and damn well deal with the citizens of their districts? Because the tar and feathers are looking better and better every day. Or nooses. Either or. Sounds about like what it is going to come to.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 03:21 AM (pHivF)

52 Not just that, Sherry, but I get the feeling that any "activist" (AKA angry citizen) that questions their sacred Rep in a meanie voice at Town Halls regarding the failure of the GOP would get the stink eye.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 14, 2013 03:21 AM (jlm/B)

53 38 19 JJ Sefton, You translated from the closeted donk pretty effectively JJ....you may have a second career yet. Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 07:14 AM (A4hKL) Maybe Ace will promote me?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2013 03:21 AM (+98Gb)

54 39 Fenian Bastard,

We should probably learn to read a map eh?

I suspect that explains Detroit.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:21 AM (A4hKL)

55 I notice that the inverse has NEVER happened once... not a single time in my life has the democrat party had to cave on any of their views lest "the GOP do it anyway" Does Clinton signing and then taking credit for welfare reform count? Or was that more just Bubba choosing between Dem policy and his own personal power?

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at August 14, 2013 03:22 AM (HEa5q)

56 Anthony Weiner's wife, Huma Abedin, scheduled to be a notable no-show when the top Democratic candidates debate Tuesday evening WeinerÂ’s campaign has told debate organizers that Abedin will not be attending the debate, which will be held at the WABC/Channel 7 studios and broadcast live at 7 p.m.

The spouses of the other four candidates will attend, their campaigns told debate organizers.

http://tinyurl.com/ksbnw8e

Posted by: caustic at August 14, 2013 03:23 AM (/b8+5)

57 45 Darth Randall,

"We wouldn't need to classify the tax reform negotiations for 50 years if you cockucking voters weren't so bothered by our trying to eliminate every middle class deduction in one fell swoop..."

//Corey Congresscritter

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:23 AM (A4hKL)

58 RS if you are lurking out there this morning I just sent you some pics.

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2013 03:24 AM (lZvxr)

59 I guess Sean now you want to requisition enough Metallic Blue Pearl to paint your commuter AFV? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 07:20 AM (2+EWn)

Now, really....would that too much to ask?

I'm all out of 25mm HEI-T, I gotta have something

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 03:24 AM (6T8Ay)

60 Today is the tenth anniversary of the power outage in the east and Midwest caused by the third rate utility where I wasted 19.5 years. When Mrs H got home from work she asked "do you think this was caused by terrorists?" To which I replied "Fuck no; it was probably those assholes at CEI". The next morning, when reports of the cause were coming in, I thought "please God, I don't ask for much".

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 14, 2013 03:25 AM (ySHbj)

61 "Gosh, wouldn't that be more likely if we took back the Senate, though, wouldn't it?" Approximately 0% more likely. The excuse would become that they don't have enough votes to break a filibuster, so they can't defund it, and even if they could pass something out of the Senate, it would be vetoed anyway.

Posted by: Boone at August 14, 2013 03:26 AM (tIyK2)

62 55 Vote Lord Humungus,

That was Beijing Bill admitting the writing was on the wall...

in a way that AMIGO GRANDE! is in no way shape or form....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:27 AM (A4hKL)

63 There are two tried and true methods of getting a Congress critter's attention:

1. Cash, and promise of more cash
2. A viable, well-funded potential primary candidate

I would love to see a Conservative organization dedicated to finding and vetting viable candidates in RINO districts, esp. those that don't need to be RINOs. Just target 50 squishes.

Posted by: Fenian Bastard at August 14, 2013 03:27 AM (CMlD4)

64 The race-baiters need to go to "sensitivity training". Maybe they can learn not to call everything under the sun racist. They bully people and call them names. Sounds like they have the problem. Until they admit they have the problem and will seek out some help, to hell with 'em.

Posted by: Case at August 14, 2013 03:27 AM (jhRZ+)

65 Well Sean, you could weld some I-beam to the front of the glacis just like those hedgerow clippers of the French bocage....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 03:27 AM (2+EWn)

66 Sorry, a few more minutes with that Fenian sock on, and I would be pouring Jamesons in my oatmeal

Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2013 03:27 AM (CMlD4)

67 The beauty of the "defund" tactic is that it doesn't require Obama's signature. So there's that.

Posted by: @johntant at August 14, 2013 03:28 AM (BjUie)

68 Even Canada no longer has respect for the United States.

Not exactly an escalation from their Bieber attack.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is never drinking again at August 14, 2013 03:28 AM (hO8IJ)

69 one of the joys of my life will be wiping the smug off the RINO enablers face with a straight ticket D vote.... Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 07:20 AM (A4hKL)

I don't have to do that. My Congress Critter and both my Senators (Coburn and Inhofe) are worth my vote, but, the top of the ticket--that is a toss up. It's Oklahoma and it will go for the Republican.

Any nonsense that anyone wants to spout about the people that we send to DC being above the questions and the demands of the great unwashed is just so very much twaddle. It is their job to discuss and yes, defend the life and death questions that they voted upon during their time in DC. People by the hundreds of thousands are losing their grip on the middle class and guess what, there is no room for them in the underclasses--those are all full up with the LIV/FSA folks and any jobs there might be are filled by illegals. IMHO, Reps and Senators are just d@mn lucky that they are not met by a mob of pitchfork wielding folks with a tumbril and a guillotine.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 03:28 AM (kXoT0)

70 55 I notice that the inverse has NEVER happened once... not a single time in my life has the democrat party had to cave on any of their views lest "the GOP do it anyway" Does Clinton signing and then taking credit for welfare reform count? Or was that more just Bubba choosing between Dem policy and his own personal power? Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at August 14, 2013 07:22 AM (HEa5q) No. Clinton vetoed it twice then signed it when he saw the tsunami coming. The claim Democrats never do this better fits acts of legislation pushed by one party. The GOP wants what the Democrats want, they just are pretending otherwise.

Posted by: eman at August 14, 2013 03:28 AM (AO9UG)

71 Ah, yes . . . another message from Olympus. Thanks for the encouraging information about why the political class won't meet with us commoners. Now that I know firsthand from a Republican operative like Gabe that reps are using their skills at 3D chess to escape scrutiny from the people who feel the effects of their decisions, I feel so much better. I still prefer Ace's take, though. I wonder which establishment Republican Gabe works for. From his authoritative tone, I would guess it is a pol who is close to the top of the Repub food chain. My immediate guess is Mitch McConnell. We should put up a survey or something. To Gabe and other operatives who post on these boards to "manage" public opinion: please know that many of us are repulsed at your attempts at "messaging" and we relish the inevitable destruction of the Republican party.

Posted by: Turkey O Tooley at August 14, 2013 03:29 AM (Zd5Sb)

72 61 Boone,

The Planets are not in the jockstrap of Acquarius, and forcing Ogabe to wreck it will make the unicorns Cry....

//Senate Majority Leader Juan Queeg 2015...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:29 AM (A4hKL)

73 Well Sean, you could weld some I-beam to the front of the glacis just like those hedgerow clippers of the French bocage.... Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 07:27 AM (2+EWn)

Oooh. Yes. Traffic does get a little thick around here.

Then again...I do like things that go all 'splodey.

....

Sepaking of which, I was at the Lima Tank Plant last week. Like a kid in a candy store I was...

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 03:30 AM (6T8Ay)

74 If congressmen want to avoid viral videos of birthers, the way to do it is to reject their wrong assertions, not to concede even an inch of credibility to their claims. Trying to be nice to them by saying that "it's too late to do anything about that, unfortunately" or "it's unclear" or any assertion that leaves a single breath in the birthers' claims are what makes the videos viralable.

Posted by: MeHome at August 14, 2013 03:30 AM (fIkHQ)

75 Jerry Doyle on Town Halls, when you contact your Congressman with the invitation, include the message that the meeting's agenda includes finding his/her replacement on the coming primary ballot. Those congress critters who ignore invites to avoid feeling uncomfortable "suddenly" find reason to attend, anyway.

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 14, 2013 03:30 AM (MhA4j)

76 So let me see if I understand Gabe correctly. If constituents are demanding to see their reps because they fear that they may be squishes, and the reps fear their constituents because they know that they are squishes, then the reps are perfectly justified in dodging town hall meetings because they are to be respected or something?

With a side of "You guys are embarrassing me in front of cute progg boys, so shut up and go away."

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is never drinking again at August 14, 2013 03:30 AM (hO8IJ)

77 Sorry, a few more minutes with that Fenian sock on, and I would be pouring Jamesons in my oatmeal You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 03:30 AM (pHivF)

78 To Gabe and other operatives who post on these boards to "manage" public opinion: please know that many of us are repulsed at your attempts at "messaging" and we relish the inevitable destruction of the Republican party. As a still registered R, I reserve the right of pitchfork, torch, & rope.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 03:32 AM (pHivF)

79 Sorry, a few more minutes with that Fenian sock on, and I would be pouring Jamesons in my oatmeal

You say that like it's a bad thing. Posted by: rickb223

I'm sitting here thinking it might work with a few raisins and walnuts maybe?

Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2013 03:33 AM (CMlD4)

80 Jean, the Jamesons flavoured oatmeal might have helped your day go more smoothly. Well after you run some vile ruffians through the heart with your rapier...

Heather, its more of a cumulative effect. First the Beiber then the Loonie.

Sean, they allow you to take one on a test drive?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 03:33 AM (2+EWn)

81 Yeah Slick might be an unindicted sexual predator and human garbage but he's smart enough to jettison donk "principles" when he can read the writing on the wall.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 14, 2013 03:33 AM (ySHbj)

82 Sean, I'll have to figure out a way to get you on the list for my next trip to NTS.

Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2013 03:34 AM (CMlD4)

83 I'm sitting here thinking it might work with a few raisins and walnuts maybe?

Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2013 07:33 AM (CMlD4)

And brown sugar...mmm, scurries off to pantry to get the oatmeal, raisins, walnuts, and Jamesons.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 03:34 AM (kXoT0)

84 Shower time, bbl.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 03:35 AM (pHivF)

85 CNN: Cruz is eligible -- video (about 3 minutes) here: http://tinyurl.com/mymr6xq

Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2013 03:35 AM (jDjlM)

86 Heather, its more of a cumulative effect. First the Beiber then the Loonie.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 07:33 AM (2+EWn)

As God is my witness, someone needs to pay for Howie Mandel slithering across the border. Just how precious to you have to be to shave your whole head and then leave a d@mn soul patch?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 03:36 AM (kXoT0)

87 Drunk before noon on spiked oatmeal. Winning.

Posted by: eman at August 14, 2013 03:36 AM (AO9UG)

88 mallfly - well if CNN says it true ...

Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2013 03:37 AM (CMlD4)

89 But I don't see why their representatives would agree to that. Particularly when these activists have come right out and stated their motives.

Because they work for the voters and the voters are demanding a performance review.   Motives? Motives?   You mean the motivation of being a part of what is ostensibly a representative democracy?   That motivation?   Those. Monsters.

For fuck's sake, this is not difficult and you damn well know that, Gabe. I do not give one tiny rat's fart what the Congressthing's motivation is. It is not the Congressthing's job to get reelected.   Its job is to represent the voters.   If it refuses to be held accountable to the people who it is supposed to represent?   Fuck you, goodbye.

If a Republican representative cannot stand up to Freedom Works then there's no way in hell said representative will stand up to the Democrats.   That is a very valuable piece of information in determining if that person deserves to remain in office.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 14, 2013 03:37 AM (Gk3SS)

90 What. He's not eligible, and neither is Obama. Both parents must be citizens at the time of birth. The issue is divided loyalty. That is why the clause exists in the first place. It's not a subjective question, it's a law. A natural born citizen requires both parents to be citizens at the time of birth. A "natural born citizen" has a specific and very literal meaning, which was included in the Constitution for a very specific reason.

Posted by: Rip at August 14, 2013 03:37 AM (xffto)

91 Sean, I'll have to figure out a way to get you on the list for my next trip to NTS. Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2013 07:34 AM (CMlD4)

Sold!

And....and....and....did I tell you that the Lima Tank Plant has the largest friction stir welder in the world? Did I? Did I?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 03:37 AM (JpC1K)

92 Drunk before noon on spiked oatmeal.

Winning. Posted by: eman at August 14, 2013 07:36 AM (AO9UG)

If you don't have time to construct the oatmeal, there is always beer and cheerios.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 03:37 AM (kXoT0)

93 87 Eman,

Justify it as "trying to understand our elected and unelected DC overlord class"...

"I was not drunk driving occifer I was "operant condition learning"...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:37 AM (A4hKL)

94 Tar and feathers should be all the motivation that congress needs.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at August 14, 2013 03:37 AM (HEa5q)

95 Time to switch from TEA to TAF. Taxed Enough Already to Tar And Feathers.

Posted by: tmitsss at August 14, 2013 03:38 AM (Pa9vP)

96 That said, I'm kinda sympathetic to "all that shit was settled six years ago, can we talk about something else now?!"

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is never drinking again at August 14, 2013 03:38 AM (hO8IJ)

97 eman, again is that a bad thing? Its Wednesday. I think not.

All the talk of clowns finally blew up my sub-conscious last night. How else to explain being jarred out of sleep because it seems I am reading a story and this character says How did I get hung like a Mexican clown car?

The Jamesons is looking real good after that.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 03:39 AM (2+EWn)

98 Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 07:29 AM (A4hKL) I swear, if they put as much effort into accomplishing something as they do giving reasons why they can't, we'd see some real movement.

Posted by: Boone at August 14, 2013 03:39 AM (tIyK2)

99 89 AlexTheChick,

Pretty much bang on...

one of the things I detest the most in this Media Fellatory State we live in now is the residual impact on the lower tiers of DC power....

they figure if they can get the media shine on them in the same way they can be unaccountable too...

not a problem....

Plan B it shall be.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:40 AM (A4hKL)

100 Sean - that's NTS in Nevada for explody things, not NTS for tracks. I figure your good either way.

Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2013 03:42 AM (CMlD4)

101 Is that about the size of it? Gevalt. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2013 07:04 AM (+98Gb) Did he say he *likes* the fact, or that it's understandable given our political system. Big difference.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at August 14, 2013 03:42 AM (X4HxX)

102 On refusing to fund ObamaCare, the House holds the purse strings, with or without the Senate. No? No one's holding their breath waiting for Obama to repeal his own monster. There's no reason the House can't perpetually refuse funding ObamaCare, every session. Should a fiscal conservative win '16 Potus, the repeal of the monster becomes feasible. The Congressional Caucus of Physicians certainly had their analysis prior to the "Affordable" gotta pass it before you can read it bill's "vote" and potus signature. But what is the point of ANY new bill/law which only strengthens the insurance industry to abuse consumers/patients with the power over life and over price fixing? The insurance/investment globalists have far too much influence and most certainly do NOT have the best interest of policy holders at heart v. PROFITS. I'm not blaming hospitals or physicians, mere "middle men" where the treatments occur, the place/circumstances that patients/voters MEANT to address by involving government to "help". But by joining in with the insurance-industry/government, physicians and hospitals are caught between the rock and hard spot in a much tighter fix. Bad move.

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 14, 2013 03:42 AM (MhA4j)

103 Posted by: Rip at August 14, 2013 07:37 AM (xffto) I know the birthers have their own special definition of "natural born citizen" so what are you guys up to now, Three generations and you have to show Grand Pa's ticket for the boat ride over?

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at August 14, 2013 03:42 AM (HEa5q)

104 75 I like that.

Posted by: BornLib at August 14, 2013 03:42 AM (zpNwC)

105 I did not need the Daily Mail to tell me something I observe every single day.

http://tinyurl.com/kjaxgv8

On the other hand, I feel so.....so....validated

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 07:09 AM (6T8Ay)

Huh. Since that was a Daily Mail link, I just assumed that link would be to something proving that tits are awesome.

Because, you know, they are and the Daily Mail, bless it, feels the need to reinforce that continuously.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 14, 2013 03:43 AM (Gk3SS)

106 Moron meet up at the NTS. Well there used to be an NTS...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 03:43 AM (2+EWn)

107 97 eman, again is that a bad thing? Its Wednesday. I think not. All the talk of clowns finally blew up my sub-conscious last night. How else to explain being jarred out of sleep because it seems I am reading a story and this character says How did I get hung like a Mexican clown car? The Jamesons is looking real good after that. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 07:39 AM (2+EWn) I have to admit on second thought it sounds like a pretty good thing. Interesting dream you had. You might need a double oatmeal with a beer chaser.

Posted by: eman at August 14, 2013 03:43 AM (AO9UG)

108 101 HoboJerky,

Given Gabe's body of work I'm gonna go with a little from column a a little from column B...

like I said wiping the smug off RINO's face is gonna be a joy.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:43 AM (A4hKL)

109 Sean - that's NTS in Nevada for explody things, not NTS for tracks. I figure your good either way. Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2013 07:42 AM (CMlD4)

Yeah, I'm good either way.

I actually might be out at NAWS-China Lake pretty soon too.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 03:44 AM (JpC1K)

110 rickb: I get the pitchforks and rope thing, but not the registered R thing. You don't owe them anything--they owe you, buddy. But to each his own. Then again to apply said rope and pitchfork, you kind-of need your rep to make an appearance or two. Gabe kind-of confirmed that the pols are in "Protect"-mode. Nah, I'll just let operatives like Gabe and the chuckleheads at HotAir waste their time with their attempts at manipulation and "messaging" only to be shocked, SHOCKED at the irrelevance of the party they speak for.

Posted by: Turkey O Tooley at August 14, 2013 03:45 AM (Zd5Sb)

111 Huh. Since that was a Daily Mail link, I just assumed that link would be to something proving that tits are awesome. Because, you know, they are and the Daily Mail, bless it, feels the need to reinforce that continuously. Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 14, 2013 07:43 AM (Gk3SS)

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 03:45 AM (JpC1K)

112 Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at August 14, 2013 07:42 AM (HEa5q) Oh really? What is your definition of a natural born citizen, what is the source, and why was it included as a necessary component for POTUS? But I already know you can't answer any of the questions.

Posted by: Rip at August 14, 2013 03:46 AM (xffto)

113 MASK Obama acts stupidly like a thin skinned plastic mannequin. No grace. No humor. "Rodeo Clown banned for life, rodeo association leaders resign." Democrats demand judicial inquisition and prosecution for WHAT CRIME? Impersonating a clown. The mask doesn't even look exactly like O.

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 14, 2013 03:46 AM (MhA4j)

114 Morning! Another day of intense global warming here in the midwest.. high of 72 today in mid-August!

I sure am enjoying it, though.. and low humidity to boot!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 14, 2013 03:47 AM (UTq/I)

115 That said, I'm kinda sympathetic to "all that shit was settled six years ago, can we talk about something else now?!"

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ is never drinking again at August 14, 2013 07:38 AM (hO8IJ)

Agreed, but, it just steams my little cockles to be told that some folks' activism is acceptable, while others is not. DOMA was settled law until Obmama said don't defend it from the relentless suits against it. I just don't like it when my "betters" want to tell me which hill to die upon.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 03:47 AM (kXoT0)

116 Good Morning rons. I see another fun filled day has begun. Thank you gabe for your insight as to why politicians shouldn't have to put up with our shit. Good job as usual Vic.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 03:47 AM (XIxXP)

117 Well the Mega Millions rolled over but changes are in the wind my friend to make it harder to win.

Toward that end, Mega Millions starting jackpot will increase to $15 million from $12 million with a minimum $5 million increase each time the jackpot rolls. Odds of winning the jackpot will get longer from 1 in 175.7 million to 1 in 258.9 million. Also, the annuity payment option for the jackpot prize will go from 26 equal installments to 30 graduated installments.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 03:48 AM (2+EWn)

118 101 Is that about the size of it? Gevalt. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2013 07:04 AM (+98Gb) Did he say he *likes* the fact, or that it's understandable given our political system. Big difference. Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at August 14, 2013 07:42 AM (X4HxX) Seriously? Gabe's tone and message were pretty clear. Read it again.

Posted by: eman at August 14, 2013 03:50 AM (AO9UG)

119 go from 26 equal installments to 30 graduated installments. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 07:48 AM (2+EWn) And by graduated you mean less on the front end right? I buy Powerball and mega tickets when it gets over 100mil. Yesterday I was at a store where a gentleman of modest means easily plopped down $50 on assorted lottery tiks. I couldn't help but think if he just knew a little math he would understand what a fools game it is.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 03:51 AM (XIxXP)

120 The Rube: "My Amnesty Bill sucks and Obama won't enforce it, but we should pass it anyway because... something."

http://youtu.be/vsnxCjkjAr0

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 14, 2013 03:51 AM (QXlbZ)

121 Democrats demand judicial inquisition and prosecution for WHAT CRIME? Impersonating a clown. The mask doesn't even look exactly like O. Posted by: panzernashorn at August 14, 2013 07:46 AM (MhA4j) Yep, looks like a well tanned Dick Nixon!

Posted by: Al Shapton at August 14, 2013 03:52 AM (WiLcs)

122 "Odds of winning the jackpot will get longer from 1 in 175.7 million to 1 in 258.9 million." So for a dollar I have better odds of winning millions than the birthers do of proving Obama or Ted Cruz can't be president. Fun times.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at August 14, 2013 03:52 AM (HEa5q)

123 118 Eman,

Look when you have COBlogger Mystery Guest trying to portray Ed "Poppin' Fresh" Morrisey as some sort of Pilsbury TRON or John fuckin' Wayne you get the score...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:53 AM (A4hKL)

124 it just steams my little cockles to be told that some folks' activism is acceptable, while others is not.

Oh yeah. It's asinine to declare all conservative activists whackjobs and insist all conservatives sit down and shut up because a tiny subset of them are mentally ill, even if you're not embracing the (majority of the movement, as far as I can tell) subset of mentally-ill progg activists as "mainstream America."

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is never drinking again at August 14, 2013 03:53 AM (hO8IJ)

125 Howie Carr worth a read this morning. For once.

http://bit.ly/16aIT13

A welcome change from the state's breathless adoration of Choom Boy, raised to an even higher pitch because he deigned to grace us with His Presence.

Well, at least the rich preppies on the Cape can pretend to be hangin' with President Historic FirstÂ©.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 14, 2013 03:54 AM (kaGpp)

126

Posted by: Global Warming Rally Atendee at August 14, 2013 03:54 AM (Aif/5)

127 OSP if I was blessed enough to win I would take the cash option. Its already enough of a fool's game to play. But to also believe the money will be managed to grow, annual zaps by the IRS on income from winnings, and we will live for the 30 years to collect it all... pass.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 03:55 AM (2+EWn)

128 I couldn't help but think if he just knew a little math he would understand what a fools game it is.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 07:51 AM (XIxXP)

-- Your odds of winning or only slightly worse if you don't play

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 14, 2013 03:56 AM (R8hU8)

129 124 Heather Radish,

You have to remember that Gabe in particular buys into the notion that undoing the definition of marriage that all cultures have pretty much managed to come up with throughout well ALL RECORDED FUCKING HISTORY is the most heroic thing well gosh "ever"....

one day you wake up and discover that things like wanting "national borders" is radical fucking lunatic fringe silly talk and wanting to have a nation where you can marry livestock is "mainstream"...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 03:56 AM (A4hKL)

130 Natural born citizen: both parents US citizens, and born in America (territories, military installations and property included). It is the constitutional requirement to protect the nation from a president with divided loyalties. Blind-minded Alinsky-ridicule v. constitutional integrity does our nation no good. I'm addressing idjits who promote fabricated false definitions to "natural born citizen" in order to ridicule and reject it, delete it from the constitutional body. Hardly in a surgically precise manner, either. Removing the deadbolt on the Oval Office door does Constitutional Governance no favor. Precaution? We don't need no stinkin' precautionary measure! whatever

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 14, 2013 03:57 AM (MhA4j)

131 UPS Plane Crashes Near Birmingham, AL, Airport

http://tinyurl.com/lxyhtfl

Posted by: caustic at August 14, 2013 03:57 AM (/b8+5)

132 Speaking of whackjobs, here's a Der Spiegel piece on "young" Greeks (some of whom are older than me, and I'm old) "doing the work the government should do" like giving out free healthcare and bullying people who don't recycle.

http://t.co/GurVRVf9M3

You start thinking maybe they get it...then you realize they don't.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is never drinking again at August 14, 2013 03:58 AM (hO8IJ)

133 OSP if I was blessed enough to win I would take the cash option. Its already enough of a fool's game to play. But to also believe the money will be managed to grow, annual zaps by the IRS on income from winnings, and we will live for the 30 years to collect it all... pass. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 07:55 AM (2+EWn) I would have to take the lump sum because I know me and no one has ever survived very long driving that fast, flying that low, drinking that much good booze while doing that much blow surrounded by that many dangerous russian hookers.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 03:58 AM (XIxXP)

134 Panzernashorn:
The insurance/investment globalists have far too much influence and most certainly do NOT have the best interest of policy holders at heart v. PROFITS.

Gee.. no shit, Sherlock. It's a business. Insurance is the business of risk... gambling if you will. But since they are "the house", they get to make up the rules. So insurers of all kinds have always made the rules in their favor... deductible, co-pays, pre-existing conditions, yearly caps, etc.

But sometimes insurers still lose. Take 2005 for instance with all the hurricanes. The big guys got fucked big-time on payouts, and some even got out of the homeowner's insurance business. Others jacked up rates on their other products.

I'm not blaming hospitals or physicians, mere "middle men" where the treatments occur, the place/circumstances that patients/voters MEANT to address by involving government to "help". But by joining in with the insurance-industry/government, physicians and hospitals are caught between the rock and hard spot in a much tighter fix. Bad move.

Insurers are taking a big risk getting involved with Obamacare. No more pre-existing conditions. They must accept all applicants. No more being able to charge much higher rates for elderly sick people. So, they will need to sign up a whole shitload of young people who don't have the money for a full-service health policy. If that demographic decides to pay the fines, the insurers are fucked again.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 14, 2013 03:58 AM (UTq/I)

135 Yeah they're avoiding townhalls because of birthers. I'm sure that's what all their offices are constantly getting phone calls about demanding answers from them. Passing amnesty? Stopping Obamacare? No definitely not. I'm sure they haven't heard a peep about those things. Its birthers on the phone 24/7.

Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2013 03:58 AM (LI48c)

136 Today's celebrity birthdays: Doc Holliday (He's your huckleberry) Alice Ghostley (quarter miles) Social Security (neither) Lynne Cheney (go get 'em!) David Crosby (spherical hippie) Steve Martin (http://youtu.be/5bcO1svqh_Q ) Antonio Fargas (sold the Bull) Susan Saint James (where?) Gary Larson (distant perimeter) James Horner (repetitive) Magic Johnson (still here) Susan Olsen (Thindy) Brannon Braga (bad Trek) Halle Berry (expecting at 47!) Catherine Bell (nom nom nom) The Rocky Horror Picture Show (warped) Tim Tebow (strength)

Posted by: Gran at August 14, 2013 03:58 AM (mw0FO)

137 Can Lady GaGa turn into a greater freak and alien?

Wait, don't answer that.

She makes Annie look positively demure.
http://youtu.be/qeMFqkcPYcg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 03:59 AM (2+EWn)

138 Morning all. The Military in Egypt are cracking down on McCain and obama's friends the muslim brotherhood. Pity

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2013 03:59 AM (9Xc5j)

139 112 Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at August 14, 2013 07:42 AM (HEa5q) Oh really? What is your definition of a natural born citizen, what is the source, and why was it included as a necessary component for POTUS? But I already know you can't answer any of the questions. Posted by: Rip at August 14, 2013 07:46 AM (xffto) --------------------- Watching a monkey fuck a football is amusing, in small doses. We got enough of this bullshit yesterday from Diogenes' Lamp.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 14, 2013 04:00 AM (JDIKC)

140 No proof of intelligibility offered now could undo the 2008 or 2012 elections. The issue should be pushed for the sake of future elections, but other than that the shipped has sailed.

Posted by: eman at August 14, 2013 04:01 AM (AO9UG)

141 Must take youngen to school, BRB.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 04:01 AM (XIxXP)

142 one day you wake up and discover that things like wanting "national borders" is radical fucking lunatic fringe silly talk and wanting to have a nation where you can marry livestock is "mainstream"...

Hey, that livestock law is the only way I'm ever going to stop being my mother's greatest failure. O_O

Alright, I gotta go to work so the federal government can confiscate the fruits of my labor to give it to progg groups to agitate against me. I'll try not to embarrass anyone by pointing out how HORRIBLY FUCKING WRONG that is.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is never drinking again at August 14, 2013 04:01 AM (hO8IJ)

143 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 14, 2013 08:00 AM (JDIKC) Oh so you are just making shit up whole cloth then? Ok thanks.

Posted by: Rip at August 14, 2013 04:01 AM (xffto)

144

You mean people that are demanding the townhalls are those that are pissed that the Republicans in Congress are just doing whatever the fuck they want and not listening to their constituents and don't want that exposed. Yeah damn those activists.

But then you probably don't think the people have the Standing to demand that their Representatives actually represent them.

Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2013 04:01 AM (LI48c)

145 I would have to take the lump sum because I know me and no one has ever survived very long driving that fast, flying that low, drinking that much good booze while doing that much blow surrounded by that many dangerous russian hookers.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 07:58 AM (XIxXP)

I was buying your fantasy demise until you got to dangerous Russian hookers, the estimable Mrs. OSP would shoot all of you the minute one of their feet cleared the end of HER driveway.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 04:02 AM (kXoT0)

146 139 Empire of Jeff,

I missed a monkey fucking a football here yesterday?

Goddamn it...AoSHQ miss a day...miss a lot.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 04:03 AM (A4hKL)

147 Insurers are taking a big risk getting involved with Obamacare. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 14, 2013 07:58 AM (UTq/I)

Jerry, the law did not give them a choice. I know, I work in IT for the biggest carrier in Illinois.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 04:04 AM (kXoT0)

148 Good morning.

So, they don't want to do town halls because of the possibility of embarrassing video clips. This just proves what I have said about a bunch of them: they are cowards.

So what's stopping them from doing 3 hours on a local talk radio show, answering caller's questions or listening to complaints? My congressman talks to a local guy once a week and could easily do 3 hours. Of course, he's also got a couple of town halls scheduled, and is pretty conservative.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 04:04 AM (GoIUi)

149 Well I should toddle off also.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2013 04:04 AM (2+EWn)

150 142 Heather Radish,

Ma'am you keep on keeping on...and I'll keep trying to avoid needing to be sedated here to live from day to day...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 04:05 AM (A4hKL)

151 To make it simple for the mentally challenged ones, we can just turn this into a simple logical thought experiment. Obviously, the NBC clause exists to prevent a POTUS from having divided loyalties, between the United States and another country. Therefore, if one were to have a parent that was a citizen of another country, he or she may be influenced in such a way that divides loyalty. One way to prevent divided loyalty is to require both parents to be citizens at the time of birth. Not just ONE parent, but BOTH parents.

Posted by: Rip at August 14, 2013 04:05 AM (xffto)

152 Interesting though that Coulter says take a look at the eligibility thing http://minx.cc/?post=342467 and levin says no to chrispy
Mark Levin: I Will Do Everything I Can To Make Sure Christie Is Not The Nominee http://tinyurl.com/llex3pk

via drudge: CNN: Is Cruz Eligible To Run For President?
http://tinyurl.com/ktrsavn
Natural-born citizen?

Posted by: caustic at August 14, 2013 04:06 AM (/b8+5)

153 So, they don't want to do town halls because of the possibility of embarrassing video clips. This just proves what I have said about a bunch of them: they are cowards. Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 08:04 AM (GoIUi)

Yup, they only want to talk to the right folks about the right stuff.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 04:06 AM (kXoT0)

154 Jerry, the law did not give them a choice. I know, I work in IT for the biggest carrier in Illinois.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil
.............
Of course they have a choice!

Their first choice was to back Obama thinking this was a good deal for them. I believe they chose poorly.

The second choice, now, is whether to stay in the healthcare insurance business at all. Some markets will lose money. I predict there will be some states with no one willing to insure under the guidelines of ACA.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 14, 2013 04:08 AM (UTq/I)

155 Yup, they only want to talk to the right folks about the right stuff.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 08:06 AM (kXoT0)

....and go to the right cocktail parties and social events.

Posted by: caustic at August 14, 2013 04:08 AM (/b8+5)

156 Time to switch from TEA to TAF. Taxed Enough Already to Tar And Feathers. Where our motto is, "We don't vote you out. We run you out!"

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 04:09 AM (p9JxP)

157 I would really appreciate a hug.

Posted by: Sensitive Rodeo Clown at August 14, 2013 04:09 AM (3ZtZW)

158 After I read what the pres ate yesterday, all that fried food, I wondered if an antacid company would send him a case of product as a pr stunt.

Posted by: caustic at August 14, 2013 04:11 AM (/b8+5)

159 Posted by: caustic at August 14, 2013 08:06 AM (/b8+5)

I guess summer is slow down at the glory-hole.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 04:11 AM (gqgiP)

160 So I'm banned from Hooters apparently. Doesn't matter since all of their SD restaurants have been rezoned residential as of this morning. The idea here is, basically, Don't Fuck With Filner.

Posted by: Bob Filner at August 14, 2013 04:11 AM (kyAWi)

161 Good morning, everybody. I have only read the first 50 or so comments. Maybe I missed something, but, regarding why some Congress folk not going to town halls, my reading was, Gabe was just presenting their view, not excusing them. I know Gabe's rep. I know people are concerned about him.

Still this looks like one time of attacking the messenger. But as I say, maybe I missed something. Haha. What a way to start the day.

Posted by: mindful webworker, surely uncertain at August 14, 2013 04:11 AM (13IVx)

162 Hmm, maybe the Congress Critters need to have a questionaire to discern which voters can approach their exalted personages?

1. Are you a reactionary who insists that I vote the Constitution and the good of my constituency rather than voting for the good of my DC social life? (That will clear out about 75% of the riffraff.)

2. Are you a middle class person or small business owner struggling in this economy? (That will clear out the rest.)

The Congress Critter can now talk to his/her adoring staff and the high value donors who own his/her @ss.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 04:11 AM (kXoT0)

163 Mark Levin: I Will Do Everything I Can To Make Sure Christie Is Not The Nominee
Posted by: caustic
...........
Mark Levin is a blowhard... with not a very big audience. And what audience he has, are not the types to vote for Christie anyway.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 14, 2013 04:11 AM (UTq/I)

164 157 Sensitive Rodeo Clown,

Yeah pretty much...much as I am desperately trying to like Longmire I have to admit that the new and improved EMO Wyoming takes some getting used to...maybe that is the hidden agenda behind Searchlight Stalker's Cowboy Poetry]/i] Initiatives?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 04:12 AM (A4hKL)

165 I did not need the Daily Mail to tell me something I observe every single day.
http://tinyurl.com/kjaxgv8
On the other hand, I feel so.....so....validated
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 07:09 AM (6T8Ay)

BMW drivers are obnoxious, but I don't know whether Nissan drivers are worse.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 14, 2013 04:12 AM (QXlbZ)

166

"Yup, they only want to talk to the right folks about the right stuff."

You mean the big donors who wants cheap labor.

Posted by: Case at August 14, 2013 04:15 AM (9mWut)

167 Hmmm. I turned on CNN to see if they had Egypt news and golly-gee, here they are talking about birthers.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 04:16 AM (GoIUi)

168 163 Chi-Town Jerry,

I am not a Mark Levin listener with any regularity, I find his delivery of his thoughts to be only slightly more pleasurable than being boiled in tallow and wax...

Nominate Joisey "Gun Control, Open Borders, and Ground Zero Mosque" Buddah for the GOP nominee making it a hattrick of fucking retard softy nominations in a row I am voting SMOD '16....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 04:16 AM (A4hKL)

169 BMW drivers are obnoxious, but I don't know whether Nissan drivers are worse

Depends on where you live, I suppose.

The worst drivers around here are behind the wheels of Buicks, Toyotas and Ford F-150s.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 14, 2013 04:17 AM (kaGpp)

170 By the way, the dead LA bank hostage-taker was named Fuaed Abdo Ahmed.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 04:17 AM (GoIUi)

171 The second choice, now, is whether to stay in the healthcare insurance business at all. Some markets will lose money. I predict there will be some states with no one willing to insure under the guidelines of ACA.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 14, 2013 08:08 AM (UTq/I)

They absolutely do not have that choice. They have the right to go out of business. They have thousands of expert staff and hundreds upon hundreds of millions invested in being a health insurance provider. The home/auto/life insurance business space is saturated. My firm is not publicly traded, but, if it were, it is the size of Coca Cola. Corporations that large just can't change overnight. If someone said tomorrow to Coca Cola, because the laws are now very difficult for you, don't make ANY more beverages, do something else with your time and money, how would that work? Sure, they have some subsidary businesses, we do too, but, their main product stream, their reason for being, is to produce soft drinks, bottle them, and sell them at a profit.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 04:18 AM (kXoT0)

172

Was watching some movie with a funk soundtrack last night and noticed the 4mo was kinda groovin to it, so I got on youtube and played Rubberband Man and Rollercoaster of Love for him to see if it were so. I think he sort of likes the horns and the repetitiveness of the bass lines. But its kind of cool since its not all swearing and violence, plus: Funk Baby

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 04:18 AM (3ZtZW)

173 Jack Germond has died. Age 85.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 04:18 AM (GoIUi)

174 Gabe going way off the track once again, this time woth the townhalls. First of all, the report says tea party groups and ither similar words, and somehow, from that, Gabe figures that these people are there to only make a scene. Neat trick. If you are Tea Party, you only want to upstage your congressman, I guess. And even if tht was the case, what do you think the point of a townhall is, Gabe? To let our overlord give a campaign speech while we, the serfs, might be lucky enough to ask a softball question?

Posted by: Rich at August 14, 2013 04:19 AM (iB/ZF)

175 Mark Levin knows more about the Constitution and history of the country than economic retards who badmouth him here. By far.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 14, 2013 04:19 AM (ySHbj)

176 167 Miss Marple,

You can pretty much tell how bad the news is based on how retarded the Ogabe fellatory wing of the media has to get to knock his "smashing success story" off the front page...

what I'm gonna love is their totally unself-aware pushing of Ted Cruz being "ineligible" in 2 years....

"WINNING!"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 04:19 AM (A4hKL)

177 Yeah pretty much...much as I am desperately trying to like Longmire I have to admit that the new and improved EMO Wyoming takes some getting used to...maybe that is the hidden agenda behind Searchlight Stalker's Cowboy Poetry]/i] Initiatives?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 08:12 AM (A4hKL)

Yeah, the casting is terrible vis a vis the actual description of the characters in the books...Lee Diamond Phillips as Standing Bear, really and Katee Sackoff as Morretti, triple really? Both are good enough actors--just horribly wrong for the parts.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 04:21 AM (kXoT0)

178 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 04:23 AM (/PCJa)

179 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 04:23 AM (/PCJa)

180 Oh hey they're showing bootlegs of Elysium on Roku's JustinTV at times. Its about exoskeletons and things in the brain.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 04:23 AM (3ZtZW)

181 Also, recall that Congressfolk are generally motivated by one thing: getting reelected. If town halls make it harder for them to get reelected then of course they're going to avoid town halls. I think many of them may find that *not* holding townhalls is going to make it harder for them to get reelected.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 04:24 AM (/PCJa)

182 Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 08:17 AM (GoIUi)

The damned Amish are becoming a real problem in this country.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 04:25 AM (gqgiP)

183

I'm really growing to hate ALL politicans. There really are no 'good guys'.

Our founders were right - limit government to maximize freedom and limit the damage these greedy, power hungry political types can inflict on us.

Posted by: lily at August 14, 2013 04:25 AM (uw9jr)

184 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood. Good morning sleepy head.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 04:25 AM (p9JxP)

185 #175 Levin gave a very interesting interview on Cavuto. It was low-key (unusual for Levin) and thoughtful. I am probably going to get his book to understand an Article V convention.

His show is not carried here and because it comes on at my dinnertime I usually am busy cooking.

He used to post under a pseudonym on Free Republic (1998-2000) and I once got into a heated argument with him. He doesn't like his expertise questioned, but then, most of us are like that. He was wrong, however, about saying that Bush's challenge of the recount through the Supreme Court was a waste of time.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 04:25 AM (GoIUi)

186 Taking back the Senate just encourages the GOP.

Since it has already been decided we are going to waste the lives of American citizens because of political concerns, let them live out useless existences lest we offend the media, I'm not really concerned about the GOP that much.

Posted by: Mr. Happy-Ounce of Prevention, Pound of Cure at August 14, 2013 04:26 AM (Unw5+)

187 Good morning sleepy head. Yeah, there was this weird wet stuff on the ground this morning. It seemed to freak out a bunch of the drivers around me.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 04:26 AM (/PCJa)

188 Funny how Gabe apologizes for congressmen not facing the voters and then he won't face the comments.

Posted by: the purple hexagon at August 14, 2013 04:28 AM (FqgKp)

189 The smug assholes. They think their seat is safe. Piss off the voters, see what happenes. All the big donors money won't save you.

Posted by: Case at August 14, 2013 04:28 AM (9mWut)

190 Gabe, I bet they would have townhalls if they were running again for office and needed the money. You are so wrong on this. We are their boss. If they can't stand to hear constituents anger, then how would they ever go up gainst the Dems? As of now, the Republicans are full of whimpiness. Get angry! The Dems are running roughshod over all Constitution-loving Americans.

Posted by: shelby at August 14, 2013 04:28 AM (TKaeM)

191 I bought Levin's new book yesterday. If I can avoid reading it in his squawky voice, I'll enjoy it much more.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 14, 2013 04:29 AM (gaOtJ)

192 Basically, if we are to lose--and it appears we are--I see no reason to give a man with an "R" behind his name a pampered existence, nor to give the system legitimacy via some "bi-partisan" participation. The media have decided only that which they wish shall come to fruition. Let them own all the results then.

If the GOP wishes to encourage me to feel otherwise, it may do so. I suggest berating me is not the key to that.

Posted by: Mr. Happy-Ounce of Prevention, Pound of Cure at August 14, 2013 04:29 AM (Unw5+)

193 183 Lily,

the stakes have gotten too high so the temptations are too great...

the assholes are fighting over crumbs from a 4trillion dollar plus tray...

it may well be the only way to knock them back off the plate is to wreck the economy for good.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 04:30 AM (A4hKL)

194 Roofing tar is available at any hardware store. A feather pillow from your bed. Take them to the townhall meeting. Neither are threatening.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 14, 2013 04:30 AM (f/Y6g)

195 I'll mention that Joe Barton, at least, is having townhalls. Not as many as last year, but that was an election year, so that may explain it. The weird one is Pete Sessions not scheduling any. Pete has always been seen as a "good" congressman; it doesn't make sense for him to be seen as unwilling to engage with voters.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 04:30 AM (/PCJa)

196 Yeah, there was this weird wet stuff on the ground this morning. It seemed to freak out a bunch of the drivers around me. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 08:26 AM (/PCJa) *buffs nails* You're welcome.

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 04:31 AM (VtjlW)

197 #195 Isn't Sessions from California? He may be trying to avoid the Dream crowd.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 04:31 AM (GoIUi)

198 Miss Marple, you should either go to Levin's website or get his app to listen to his podcasts, all of which are free. He, Tammy Bruce and Dennis Miller are the best people on radio IMO (Tammy is only online broadcasts).

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 14, 2013 04:31 AM (ySHbj)

199 G-D forbid our "Representatives" actually represent our views and desires.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2013 04:32 AM (9Xc5j)

200

Neither are threatening.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 14, 2013 08:30 AM (f/Y6g)

I don't know about that. When they "tar" someone it basically burns their flesh off.

Posted by: the purple hexagon at August 14, 2013 04:32 AM (FqgKp)

201 I was buying your fantasy demise until you got to dangerous Russian hookers, the estimable Mrs. OSP would shoot all of you the minute one of their feet cleared the end of HER driveway. Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 08:02 AM (kXoT0) Good Point.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 04:32 AM (XIxXP)

202 As far as I can tell, the only consensus on the NBC question is that it is not fully settled. Based on several precedents, however, it can be said with certainty that anyone born within the United States, regardless of the parents' status, IS a NBC. Tl;dr version: blow it out your ass, rip.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at August 14, 2013 04:32 AM (d7H2D)

203 #195 Isn't Sessions from California? He may be trying to avoid the Dream crowd. Nope. TX-32.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 04:33 AM (/PCJa)

204 You're welcome. Thank you, your highness-ness.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 04:34 AM (/PCJa)

205

>>>The smug assholes. They think their seat is safe. Piss off the voters, see what happenes. All the big donors money won't save you.

Sure. But they're rich and presumably you're not. Plus they'll just get on the merry go round of lobbying, consulting for Goldman-Sachs, acting as figurehead EO for a multinational, then getting back in office in a few years once the waters get calm again and the voters go back to sleep. It isn't like they want to do politics or to lead, its just a means towards an end.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 04:35 AM (3ZtZW)

206 Thank you, your highness-ness. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 08:34 AM (/PCJa) *waves paw imperially* It was the least I could do and, after all, I always try to do the least I can do.

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 04:35 AM (VtjlW)

207 Reports are that the pilot and co-pilot of the UPS A-300 that crashed in Birmingham were killed.

Posted by: Fox 2! at August 14, 2013 04:36 AM (XFTOV)

208 *buffs nails* You're welcome. Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 08:31 AM (VtjlW)

You did that my Queen?

Ummmm....perhaps...a small request for your loyal servant? Perhaps?

Could you make it rain Kate Beckinsale?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 04:36 AM (JpC1K)

209 Most people bringing up Cruz's natural born citizenry issue to stop him for running for POTUS are Rino's.

Posted by: Dick Nixons Rib at August 14, 2013 04:36 AM (VrVBw)

210 *waves paw imperially* It was the least I could do and, after all, I always try to do the least I can do.

Aim low.

Why be disappointed?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 04:37 AM (JpC1K)

211

Gabe,

You may be (probably are) about the town halls, and I'm willing to admit there is some logic to delay vs defund (IF the R's actually are willing to die on the "delay" hill, which I doubt).

So, you "may" be right........I hope that makes you feel better when the base tells you to jam it come next November. You ain't got balls enough to look me in the eye and talk? Then I don't have the time to bother voting for you. Continue to piss me off, and I'll vote Dem just to get revenge andLIB.

Posted by: FITP at August 14, 2013 04:37 AM (/n800)

212 I once again don't understand the quoting Allah P on the very first line of Gabes post. I dumped HA and their RINO BS when the LBFM cut and ran with a pocket full of cash.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 04:37 AM (XIxXP)

213 Most people bringing up Cruz's natural born citizenry issue to stop him for running for POTUS are Rino's. I'm hearing it more from Democrats than any Republican (real, RINO, or DIABLO). But, to your point- yes, the people trying to make hay out of the issue are largely those who "don't like" Cruz (because he's mean, or whatever).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 04:38 AM (/PCJa)

214

Heh.

http://tinyurl.com/keoetr8

Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2013 04:39 AM (xWW96)

215

@205

At least they will be off the gravytrain for awhile. And maybe they will learn something. Or maybe they won't and get tossed again.

Posted by: Case at August 14, 2013 04:39 AM (9mWut)

216 U.S. Officials: Four Al-Qaeda Operative Behind Embassy Threat Killed By Drone Strikes In YemenÂ… IÂ’d be lying if I said I wasnÂ’t skeptical. Weasel Zippers: Yeah a tad to convenient for me also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2013 04:39 AM (9Xc5j)

217 But, to your point- yes, the people trying to make hay out of the issue are largely those who "don't like" Cruz (because he's mean, or whatever).

All liberals, and sadly many conservatives, are uncomfortable with people who know what they think - and why they think it.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 04:39 AM (JpC1K)

218 O'Really, Geraldo, and Dennis Miller leaving FOX for CNN.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 14, 2013 04:40 AM (0IhFx)

219 Clown sensitivity training. Now theres an idea. A really stupid idea, but an idea nonetheless.

Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2013 04:41 AM (xWW96)

220 IÂ’d be lying if I said I wasnÂ’t skeptical. Weasel Zippers: Yeah a tad to convenient for me also. Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2013 08:39 AM (9Xc5j) Video or it didn't happen. Hopefully a big spolsion complete with the reported 400 SAMs. Then again those are prolly distributed all over the planet by now.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 04:41 AM (XIxXP)

221 216 U.S. Officials: Four Al-Qaeda Operative Behind Embassy Threat Killed By Drone Strikes In YemenÂ…

IÂ’d be lying if I said I wasnÂ’t skeptical.

Weasel Zippers:

Yeah a tad to convenient for me also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2013 08:39 AM (9Xc5j)

Yeah why believe that? After they shut down the embassies and reopened them they just happened to kill them? Why not during the shutdown? Hell why not before. Its not like we are actually attempting to gain intelligence from them since Obama is always quick to burn how any information was obtained to show how tough on terrorists he is.

Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2013 04:42 AM (LI48c)

222 Some days you just wanna slap the piss out of someone. FNC just interviewed a father who is being sued by his neighbor to make him remove the wheelchair ramp that is used to transport his daughter who has cerebral palsy. It's a new house and the ramp was incorporated as best it could be into the design but, still, it's a ramp, so it's not particularly pretty. Yet... there's no HOA and the neighbor is, allegedly, pissed that the father didn't clear the ramp through him first as he claims it hurts the value on his two-month old house. What a prick.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 04:43 AM (jjvz+)

223 NM....WWN. Old story from January.

I been rickrolled.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 14, 2013 04:43 AM (0IhFx)

224

@205
At least they will be off the gravytrain for awhile. And maybe they will learn something. Or maybe they won't and get tossed again.

That's what I'm trying to say. The gravy train isn't going to end for them.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 04:43 AM (3ZtZW)

225 Apparently the AOSHQ style guide requires that I dislike Elon Musk since his companies charge the government fixed price for goods and services (unlike his cost-plus competitors) and pay back their loans (yes, the entire Tesla AVTM loan is paid back 9 years ahead of schedule). But despite those drawbacks, this is pretty cool:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/367545423495311360

Posted by: Fritz (Not Fritz) at August 14, 2013 04:43 AM (U0t2o)

226 Could you make it rain Kate Beckinsale?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 08:36 AM (JpC1K)

http://tinyurl.com/lppsmtz

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 04:43 AM (gqgiP)

227 Most people bringing up Cruz's natural born citizenry issue to stop him for running for POTUS are Rino's. I'm hearing it more from Democrats than any Republican (real, RINO, or DIABLO). Bwahahahahaha. Two words: Obama's daddy.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 04:43 AM (p9JxP)

228 212
I do believe AllahPundit was willing to do quite a bit to make sure that sale happened, and was as profitable as possible.

Willing to do quite a bit.

Posted by: Mr. Happy-Ounce of Prevention, Pound of Cure at August 14, 2013 04:43 AM (Unw5+)

229

>>>>Clown sensitivity training.

Send 'em ALL back to the Big Top, I say. In one car.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 04:45 AM (3ZtZW)

230 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 08:43 AM (gqgiP)

Oh....oh my.

Make the next one in a latex catsuit.

If you don't mind.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 04:45 AM (JpC1K)

231 Could you make it rain Kate Beckinsale? Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 08:36 AM (JpC1K) Hallelujah!

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2013 04:45 AM (GQ8sn)

232 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 08:43 AM (jjvz+) What is wrong with people? Dude- it's not your house. It's not your business if I paint it Pepto-Bismol pink. "It hurts my property values..." No, it really doesn't. A ramp on a neighbor's house isn't going to hurt your home value- at least not to any measurable degree (unlike my previously mentioned Pepto-Bismol pink house). But even if it did, so what?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 04:46 AM (/PCJa)

233

@224

I don't care what they do as long as they don't hold elected office. Elected slime needs to listen to who brung him there.

Posted by: Case at August 14, 2013 04:46 AM (9mWut)

234 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 08:43 AM (gqgiP) I approve this message. BRB...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 04:47 AM (/PCJa)

235 233 that I agree with

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 04:48 AM (3ZtZW)

236 You did that my Queen? Ummmm....perhaps...a small request for your loyal servant? Perhaps? Could you make it rain Kate Beckinsale? Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 08:36 AM (JpC1K) Oh, sweetling, if I could make it rain Kate Beckinsale, I would not make such an event occur by you. You could stand next to me though. Here. Because the Horde needs happy things at the moment - http://bit.ly/1cNhQOE

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 04:48 AM (VtjlW)

237 It's Republicans like Gabe that make me proud to say fuck the GOP.

Posted by: mugiwara at August 14, 2013 04:49 AM (D5hxK)

238 By the way, the dead LA bank hostage-taker was named Fuaed Abdo Ahmed. -Miss Marple ______ Those Mennonites! How does one pronounce "Fuaed" anyway? Rhymes with.. suede? Freud? Food? Phooied?

Posted by: mindful webworker, surely uncertain at August 14, 2013 04:49 AM (+kzsa)

239 What is wrong with people? *** Can you even imagine the kind of person who would fight to have the means of conveyance destroyed for a sick person? Can you imagine what else he'll raise hell about? Grass too long? LAWSUIT! Dinner party at your house? CALL THE COPS! What a complete and utter prick.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 04:50 AM (jjvz+)

240

The birther thing is bullshit. These arguments have been around for years. If a congressman doesn't know the proper response, then he's and idiot.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 14, 2013 04:51 AM (lr3d7)

241 Hot babe posted on the ONT https://mlkshk.com/r/CA9C

Posted by: fluffy at August 14, 2013 04:51 AM (z9HTb)

242 Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 08:45 AM (JpC1K)

RisquÃ© photos of her are difficult to find. It's almost as if she has a sense of propriety, which of course is nonsense, because she is an actor who works in Hollywood.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 04:52 AM (gqgiP)

243 Who says pop-tarts and beer don't go together?

Morning roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 14, 2013 04:52 AM (yh0zB)

244 What a complete and utter prick. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 08:50 AM (jjvz+) Every neigborhood has 1 or 2. Bored and bitter, seeking to control something because they are out of control. There are ways to deal with people like that. Not all of them involve violence.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 04:52 AM (XIxXP)

245 Who says pop-tarts and beer don't go together? ** What flavor Pop Tarts?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 04:53 AM (jjvz+)

246 Who says pop-tarts and beer don't go together? Morning roonz and roonettez! Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 14, 2013 08:52 AM (yh0zB) Breakfast of ~~Champions~~ Morons!

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2013 04:53 AM (GQ8sn)

247

I once again don't understand the quoting Allah P on the very first line of Gabes post. I dumped HA and their RINO BS when the LBFM cut and ran with a pocket full of cash.

---------

LBFM?

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 14, 2013 04:53 AM (eytER)

248 Hot babe posted on the ONT

https://mlkshk.com/r/CA9C

Posted by: fluffy at August 14, 2013 08:51 AM (z9HTb)

Olga! With her sniper Mosin...

How do you say "hawt!" in Rooski?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 14, 2013 04:53 AM (yh0zB)

249

>>>It's Republicans like Gabe that make me proud to say fuck the GOP.

Gabe doesn't need you.

All he needs is Gay Marriage.

Gay Marriage and Mexicans.

Gay Marriage, Mexicans, and this ashtray.

And this chair. That's all he needs.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 04:53 AM (3ZtZW)

250 Not all of them involve violence. *** Ahhh yes. At least a few of them do.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 04:53 AM (jjvz+)

251 Every neigborhood has 1 or 2. Bored and bitter, seeking to control something because they are out of control. There are ways to deal with people like that. Not all of them involve violence. The most effective ones do. Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 04:54 AM (p9JxP)

252 LBFM? Posted by: @JohnTant at August 14, 2013 08:53 AM (eytER) Navy speak for an attractive Philippino woman.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 04:54 AM (XIxXP)

253 >>> How do you say "hawt!" in Rooski? Or Yiddish?

Posted by: fluffy at August 14, 2013 04:54 AM (z9HTb)

254 242 Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 08:45 AM (JpC1K)

RisquÃ© photos of her are difficult to find. It's almost as if she has a sense of propriety, which of course is nonsense, because she is an actor who works in Hollywood.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 08:52 AM (gqgiP)

Well not that much propriety. In an interview she once admitted that she thought her best feature was her vagina.

Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2013 04:54 AM (LI48c)

255 What flavor Pop Tarts?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 08:53 AM (jjvz+)

Apple cinnamon, I managed to snag a few boxes when they were available. I haz a though because I'm down to my last box...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 14, 2013 04:54 AM (yh0zB)

256 LBFM? Posted by: @JohnTant at August 14, 2013 08:53 AM (eytER) It's a slur about Filipino women. Navy, I think. Little Brown F*ing Machine.

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2013 04:55 AM (GQ8sn)

257

Hmmm.

I'm not quite sure what to make of Gabe's statements.

Text provides no tone, other than to say this: I think DC is getting to our illustrious CoB, after all, even without town it sorta rings with the "this is obvious, why don't you Plebs get it."

Of course we don't get it because we're naÃ¯ve and think our Reps still care I guess.

I think it was Milton Friedman who said you could never incentivize good people to run for office, so what you had to do was incentivize bad people to do the right thing in office. We've clearly fucked that up, and incentivized bad people to do bad things once in office. We need to fix that.

At the very least, new residency requirements need to be put in place I think, requiring congressmen to return home more often than a college student. That'd be a start.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 14, 2013 04:55 AM (GaqMa)

258

Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 08:54 AM (XIxXP)

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Ahhh, got it. Sorry, not enough salt in my veins.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 14, 2013 04:55 AM (eytER)

259 Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2013 08:45 AM (JpC1K)

http://tinyurl.com/n8mkgno

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 04:55 AM (gqgiP)

260 Good riddance to BOR. Gerry Rivers too. I'll miss Miller, though. In the end, it's all about the money.

Posted by: Viola Fuss at August 14, 2013 04:55 AM (KArqF)

261 Good riddance to BOR. Gerry Rivers too. I'll miss Miller, though. In the end, it's all about the money. Posted by: Viola Fuss at August 14, 2013 08:55 AM (KArqF) That's not true. I think someone is trying to bamboozle us.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 04:56 AM (XIxXP)

262 #260 Was that a real news release? I have a hard time believing it.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 04:56 AM (GoIUi)

263 It's a new house and the ramp was incorporated as best it could be into the design but, still, it's a ramp, so it's not particularly pretty. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 08:43 AM (jjvz+)

I hate to be a bitch, but, when I built my home to be completely handicapped accessible, I did not want that detectable from the outside. There is no ramp, the front sidewalk gently rises to the level of the front door. In the garage, there is a tiny ramp area at the back door where that 4 inch high 3 foot area in most garages separates the garage floor from the outer edge of the house. So just maybe, not saying he does, but, maybe the neighbor has a point. People never notice that my home is handicap accessible until I point out the 3 foot doors, the shower in the master bath designed to allow a wheelchair into it, etc.

I refuse to denounce myself.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 04:57 AM (kXoT0)

264 Just when I get pissed off at one story, FNC follows with the story about the little boy who spent his Summer mowing 90 lawns to raise money for Moore, OK. What a kid, and he seems to be in great hands with his mom who was not only supportive, but took steps to make sure he understood the magnitude of the event in Moore.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 04:57 AM (jjvz+)

265 Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2013 08:54 AM (LI48c)

Yes, but she didn't show why. Which in Hollywood is positively chaste.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 04:57 AM (gqgiP)

266 3 AFL-CIO admits someone flushed the toilet and they are circling. So what's their solution? Partner w/other "left leaning" groups, like the NAACP and Sierra Club. 'Cause the Sierra Club is all about fair labor practices, right? Why don't they just fucking start their own party? Call it Commie Fucks United. Their slogan: "For the Chirrens, FORWARD!"

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 14, 2013 04:57 AM (tiHWQ)

267 So, here's a question for Mr. Malor: My Congressman is Steve King. Shouldn't I be going to a town hall and letting him know that his comments about Hispanics are "unacceptable, unhelpful" and that he should toe the GOP line better? Or would that be "making a scene"?

(FTR, if I ever *did* get to a town hall, I would shake Steve King's hand and tell him he's doing a great job. He's a good guy who draws flak because he's over the target.)

Posted by: pookysgirl at August 14, 2013 04:57 AM (kMnHs)

268 Four Al-Qaeda Operative Behind Embassy Threat Killed By Drone Strikes In Yemen _______ Whew. Resume threat level brown. War on terror is one... I mean won. -BO

Posted by: mindful webworker, certainly unsure at August 14, 2013 04:58 AM (ItCyz)

269 Can you even imagine the kind of person who would fight to have the means of conveyance destroyed for a sick person? ---------------------- Yep. But I'm pretty resistant to harassment, so the idea doesn't horrify me as much as someone who's never faced a frivolous lawsuit.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 14, 2013 04:58 AM (S1SRn)

270 BOR rakes in the money for FNC, hand over fist. There's no way he's out.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 04:59 AM (jjvz+)

271 Dude- it's not your house. It's not your business if I paint it Pepto-Bismol pink.

"It hurts my property values..."

No, it really doesn't. A ramp on a neighbor's house isn't going to hurt your home value- at least not to any measurable degree (unlike my previously mentioned Pepto-Bismol pink house). But even if it did, so what?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 08:46 AM (/PCJa)

Once upon a time in Clarinda Iowa, right across the street from the Glenn Miller house, was a Pepto Bismol pink house. Everyone in town knew it as the Peptol Bismol house. It got sold and the new owners painted it a different color quite some years ago, but it is still known as the Peptol Bismol house.

I heard my nephew call it the Peptol Bismol house, but the funny thing is...he has never lived in a world where that house was pink...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 14, 2013 04:59 AM (yh0zB)

272 BOR rakes in the money for FNC, hand over fist. There's no way he's out. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 08:59 AM (jjvz+) If he did, how long would it take him to swing full blown libtard.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:00 AM (XIxXP)

273

HARARE, Zimbabwe (AP) -- Zimbabwe's longtime President Robert Mugabe said Tuesday his party won "a resounding mandate" from voters to complete a sweeping black empowerment program to take over foreign and white-owned assets.

Mugabe said the program in Zimbabwe, widely criticized by Western countries, will be "pursued to its successful conclusion."

Mugabe said the vote showed confidence in his party and its drive for "total economic emancipation" for prosperity and jobs.

Barry: Right on brother Robert! Holder and me got to get working on this right here in this racist country

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2013 05:01 AM (1Jaio)

274 Sticky Wicket already admitted he was duped by an old fake story. Barrel for the day I think.

Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2013 05:01 AM (LI48c)

275 "I dumped HA and their RINO BS when the LBFM cut and ran with a pocket full of cash." When who did what now?

Posted by: BornLib at August 14, 2013 05:01 AM (zpNwC)

276 If he did, how long would it take him to swing full blown libtard. About as fast as the Wookie inhaling a lobster tail.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 05:01 AM (p9JxP)

277 Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 08:53 AM (3ZtZW) You forgot the remote and the lamp. I heard my nephew call it the Peptol Bismol house, but the funny thing is...he has never lived in a world where that house was pink... Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 14, 2013 08:59 AM (yh0zB) That brings to mind PJ O'Rourke asking someone when his house would be known as the O'Rourke place and the old guys in town looking at him with the duh expression and replying "When your'e dead."

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 05:02 AM (VtjlW)

278 "I dumped HA and their RINO BS when the LBFM cut and ran with a pocket full of cash." When who did what now? Posted by: BornLib at August 14, 2013 09:01 AM (zpNwC) Michelle Malkin. She sold Hot Air to Salem Communications for a pile of money.

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2013 05:03 AM (GQ8sn)

279 empowerment program to take over foreign and white-owned assets. When I was a teen my father would often say that the next war won't be against the Russians or the Chinese. It will be against the N words.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:03 AM (XIxXP)

280

Think Fox "should" shake up the prime time line up......its pretty bad when the only one you can stomach for more than thirty seconds is Greta. I mean, Hannity IS a soldier, but damn that man grates my last nerve.

After Special report, TV off.

Posted by: FITP at August 14, 2013 05:05 AM (/n800)

281 True story, I had a friend who lived at the end of the road near one other house, he painted "MY NEIGHBOR SUCKS" on his garage door.

Posted by: the purple hexagon at August 14, 2013 05:05 AM (FqgKp)

282

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 08:55 AM (gqgiP)

You know, if the new esquire channel aired videos like that (and with other people too I guess) in a non stop loop, maybe it'd be good.

But it's going to air metrosexual crap, so it won't.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 14, 2013 05:05 AM (GaqMa)

283 That brings to mind PJ O'Rourke asking someone when his house would be known as the O'Rourke place and the old guys in town looking at him with the duh expression and replying "When your'e dead."

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 09:02 AM (VtjlW)

I don't suppose there will ever be anywhere known as the "GGE House", I haven't ever stayed around anywhere long enough.

Well, and I'm not famous. There's always that.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 14, 2013 05:06 AM (yh0zB)

284 266 Brave Sir Robin,

You sir win the intratubes for the session...my work here is no longer needed.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:06 AM (A4hKL)

285 I don't suppose there will ever be anywhere known as the "GGE House", I haven't ever stayed around anywhere long enough. Well, and I'm not famous. There's always that. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 14, 2013 09:06 AM (yh0zB) There are only two houses in our hood known by name. The one where the Sex Offender lives and the one where the ex pro QB lives.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:07 AM (XIxXP)

286 but one day I could be infamous...

Pop-tarts and beer are gone, to sleep, perchance to dream...

Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 14, 2013 05:07 AM (yh0zB)

287 Later roonz and roonettez! Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 14, 2013 09:07 AM (yh0zB) Sleep well.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:08 AM (XIxXP)

288 272 OSP,

You mean he's not already if you read between the lines?

Going to Commie News Network would simply be "going home."

BO'R represents the Donkey's commie lurch knocking a lot of "once sane democrats to the GOP" the problem is the moontards are gaining back a lot of the Reagan Lurch as the RINOs empower the Donk's leftward momentum.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:09 AM (A4hKL)

289 278 EC,

Yeah some folk don't know the 60s-90s slang so well...

Ms Malkin is rather modular.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:10 AM (A4hKL)

290 BO'R represents the Donkey's commie lurch knocking a lot of "once sane democrats to the GOP" the problem is the moontards are gaining back a lot of the Reagan Lurch as the RINOs empower the Donk's leftward momentum. Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 09:09 AM (A4hKL) Well, he has expressed some intresting views concerning the situation with the inner cities. I give him props for that.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:10 AM (XIxXP)

291 In my old neighborhood we had the Robert Goddard house. His wife was still living well into our school years. My cousins shoveled her walk in the winter.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 14, 2013 05:10 AM (ZshNr)

292 "When I was a teen my father would often say that the next war won't be against the Russians or the Chinese. It will be against the N words." Kinda missed the mark on that one huh?

Posted by: Radical Islam at August 14, 2013 05:11 AM (zpNwC)

293 Kinda missed the mark on that one huh? Posted by: Radical Islam at August 14, 2013 09:11 AM (zpNwC) Africans are africans, so no, I think not.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:12 AM (XIxXP)

294 So just maybe, not saying he does, but, maybe the neighbor has a point No, he doesn't. What I do at/to my house is none of your business. It's my f*cking house. Do YOU pay the mortgage every month? Do YOU pay the property taxes? No? Then why should you have any input on what I do with/to it (so long as such activity is not already illegal)? I'm not sure where this idea that what other people do to/with their property should be something over which we have control, but it's absolutely wrong.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 05:12 AM (/PCJa)

295

They're pushing for town halls to make a scene. Good for them. But I don't see why their representatives would agree to that.

Oh, I don't know, maybe because we're their boss and they work for us and get paid by us and are supposed to do what we tell them to do?

Posted by: booger at August 14, 2013 05:12 AM (E1tcO)

296 292 Radical Islam,

or did he??

//Calypso Louis inheritor of Malcolm X

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:13 AM (A4hKL)

297 Yeah some folk don't know the 60s-90s slang so well... Ms Malkin is rather modular. Spinner.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 05:13 AM (p9JxP)

298 I still think the behavior of Hannah Anderson is bizarre. She was rescued on Sat and learned then that her mother and brother were murdered. You know she was raped repeatedly because if uncle jim is going to kill her mother, father, and dog, he's not going to take no for an answer. So, she arrived home on Sunday. On Tuesday, she was fielding questions on the internet like who is her favorite singer, showing her nails which she had done at a salon, and posting smiling selfies. Unfucking believable.

Posted by: Waldo at August 14, 2013 05:14 AM (JBCFN)

299 289 278 EC, Yeah some folk don't know the 60s-90s slang so well... Ms Malkin is rather modular. Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 09:10 AM (A4hKL) My buddy told me the LBFM thing and had to explain that one to me.

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2013 05:14 AM (GQ8sn)

300 "Not with my money." This scene from the 30's play, "You Can't Take It With You" sounds surprisingly relevant today as Granda Vanderhof, (Lionel Barrymore) the patriarch of an eccentric. loving family deals with an IRS who comes to confront him about not paying income tax. It's one of my favorite scenes from great movie and a great play: http://en.gloria.tv/?media=183407 Considering the corruption of the IRS we ought to have marches and banners saying "Not with my money" and "bring it" to DC.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2013 05:15 AM (2Tv3A)

301 294 Allen G,

Allen G's Post made possible by the "Fuck HOAs" Foundation with a special grant from the "I Wish People would mind their own fucking business and property" Group

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:15 AM (A4hKL)

302 I'm not sure where this idea that what other people do to/with their property should be something over which we have control, but it's absolutely wrong. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 09:12 AM (/PCJa) I hate HOA's, but yes, I belong to one. A house is usually your biggest investment and it should be protected. There was a time when people used common sense and gave a shit about other people and how their activities affected others. I think it's called common sense. Well, that shits all gone.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:15 AM (XIxXP)

303 Allen G's Post made possible by the "Fuck HOAs" Foundation with a special grant from the "I Wish People would mind their own fucking business and property" Group Then I must be a board member.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 05:16 AM (p9JxP)

304 I am shocked--shocked, I tell ya'--to find Gabe defending the establishment.

Never, ever, ever would have seen that coming.

Another day, another shitbomb and run.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 14, 2013 05:16 AM (VjL9S)

305 Unfucking believable. Posted by: Waldo at August 14, 2013 09:14 AM (JBCFN) Something is very wrong. I don't know what it is but something aint right.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:17 AM (XIxXP)

306 I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Town Halls on fire off the shoulder of Orion, I watched raisins glitter in the dark near the BearnÃ¤ise Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like Conservatives in the rain...

Posted by: Roy Batty at August 14, 2013 05:18 AM (2J8B7)

307 302 OSP,

My house lost ~11,000 bucks in valuation under an HOA....

I am dying for them to ever try taking me to court until that loss is made whole given their entire reason'd'aitre is you know "protecting property valuation"...

I can say with all sincerity that my Army Enlistment Paperwork Battery is now only the second most self-injurious organization I have joined...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:18 AM (A4hKL)

308 296 Wasn't Malcolm X also murdered by Muslim radicals?

Posted by: BornLib at August 14, 2013 05:18 AM (zpNwC)

309 39 Even Canada no longer has respect for the United States. They have issued a $2 CDN commemorative coin depicting the defeat of USS Chesapeake by HMS Shannon during the War of 1812. http://tinyurl.com/mx58zb8 Posted by: Anna Puma We should burn Windsor for that Posted by: Fenian Bastard at August 14, 2013 07:15 AM (CMlD4) --- But then where would people u roll their windows after being sealed in during the high-speed drive through Detroit?

Posted by: Gingy at August 14, 2013 05:18 AM (aH+zP)

310 WH press briefing at 11. Will anyone ask if 400 SAMs went missing and, if so, why the *&^ we didn't even try to stop it? Oh, and where was the President?

Posted by: USA at August 14, 2013 05:19 AM (VIaw0)

311 I can say with all sincerity that my Army Enlistment Paperwork Battery is now only the second most self-injurious organization I have joined... Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 09:18 AM (A4hKL) My house I sold 6 months ago lost 52K and it wasn't part of an HOA. How did the HOA effect your property values?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:20 AM (XIxXP)

312 Avoiding Town Halls, standing for nothing, shutting down talk of a shutdown, refusal to defund Obamacare. My gut feeling...House Republicans are going to lose their butts in '16. Bad. We're going to lose the House.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 14, 2013 05:21 AM (XB5Ak)

313 I would never buy a house in an area with an HOA, and if the neighbors tried to form one I'd sell. F that, enough trouble with taxes, I don't need to be nagged to death too.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 05:21 AM (3ZtZW)

314 I still think the behavior of Hannah Anderson is bizarre. She was rescued on Sat and learned then that her mother and brother were murdered. You know she was raped repeatedly because if uncle jim is going to kill her mother, father, and dog, he's not going to take no for an answer. So, she arrived home on Sunday. On Tuesday, she was fielding questions on the internet like who is her favorite singer, showing her nails which she had done at a salon, and posting smiling selfies. Unfucking believable. **** She's still a kid who is dealing with enormous tragedy and trauma in her life. The teen brain is not known to be the most sensible. I can't imagine what she's going through.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 05:21 AM (jjvz+)

315 Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 08:53 AM (3ZtZW) Actually, Gabe obviously feels strongly about gay marriage. he posts on quite a few issues and not just on immigration either. It's just disingenuous to insist he only cares about gay marriage.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2013 05:21 AM (2Tv3A)

316 We have one of those neighbors who minds everyone else's business.

He complains about dogs barking. (The animal control people now call me to let me know he's at it again as my dog only barks when someone approaches the yard and when she is outside. He even went over and complained about someone who had a barking beagle three blocks away.)

He walks around the subdivision looking for covenant infractions. He pulls up signs advertising lawn mowing, and caused a big stink about the requests for a $10 yearly increase in pool fees. He gripes about landscaping, too many cars parked on the street, and noisy parties.

Fortunately, karma has decreed that his neighbor is an eccentric who only cuts his grass about every 10 days and has 25 cats.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 05:22 AM (GoIUi)

317 Avoiding Town Halls, standing for nothing, shutting down talk of a shutdown, refusal to defund Obamacare. My gut feeling...House Republicans are going to lose their butts in '16. Bad. We're going to lose the House. Posted by: Lady in Black at August 14, 2013 09:21 AM (XB5Ak) It's early. Things change. we'll see.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:22 AM (XIxXP)

318 Will anyone ask if 400 SAMs went missing

That's unpossible. Math is hard for me, but do you realize the odds against that many guys all with the same first name all of a sudden going missing?

Posted by: Low Information Voter at August 14, 2013 05:22 AM (Dwehj)

319 306 Time....to die.....

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at August 14, 2013 05:23 AM (VWfCN)

320 >>> Wasn't Malcolm X also murdered by Muslim radicals? He was, indeed. Farrakhan was (still is, IIRC) in the 'he had to go' camp.

Posted by: fluffy at August 14, 2013 05:23 AM (z9HTb)

321 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 09:21 AM (jjvz+) Not only is it a team brain, but it's a teen brain traumatized by the death of her family and her kidnapping. People do unusual things after experiencing trauma.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2013 05:23 AM (2Tv3A)

322 Single African Males?

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 14, 2013 05:23 AM (ZshNr)

323 I'll say it again, Representative Government in DC is a fantasy.

Posted by: ontherocks at August 14, 2013 05:24 AM (/bEQ/)

324 I have really lost respect for the political process I suppose I should have known That our Reps represent 'special' folks (such as Themselves) and not icky folks (like us) that try to explain to them our fears of such things like changing their behavior and not assisting in financial collapse or stealing rights away from their constituents.

How .dare.us. invade their bubble!

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 05:24 AM (nqBYe)

325 Make that "teen" brain.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2013 05:24 AM (2Tv3A)

326

>>>>Actually, Gabe obviously feels strongly about gay marriage. he posts on quite a few issues and not just on immigration either. It's just disingenuous to insist he only cares about gay marriage.

Didn't mean to make that impression. I don't give him a hard time over that issue, generally.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 05:24 AM (3ZtZW)

327 also i learn tea party people are Not constituents or citizens i guess.

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 05:25 AM (nqBYe)

328

When I realized I couldn't effectively fight the HOA, I took it over.

It's good to be king.

Posted by: jwest at August 14, 2013 05:25 AM (u2a4R)

329 319 306 Time....to die..... Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at August 14, 2013 09:23 AM (VWfCN) I don't know why I voted for him. Maybe in those last moments he loved votes more than he ever had before. Not just his vote - anybody's vote; my vote. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.

Posted by: GOP Voter at August 14, 2013 05:25 AM (GQ8sn)

330 So just maybe, not saying he does, but, maybe the neighbor has a point

No, he doesn't.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 09:12 AM (/PCJa)

Whoa, AG, don't snarl at me. I have never ever, not once, in my entire life tried to tell another property owner how to handle their property. No disputing on the property rights of either party. I was just saying that it is possible to construct a new home that is handicap accessible without it being obvious or ugly. On an existing home, a big old ramp is just about your only choice. So, it is like the old adage when all you have is a hammer, then everything is a nail. If your thinking only includes ramps, then ramps are what you construct.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 05:26 AM (kXoT0)

331 NBCÂ’s ratings woes arenÂ’t just limited to weekday mornings, evenings and late night. The networkÂ’s Sunday morning flagship Meet the PressÂ–the longest-running show on network television, as its announcer reminds the audience every weekÂ–has recently fallen to a 21-year low. And as of the past few weeks, the show has come in third place on Sunday morning, trailing CBSÂ’ Face the Nation and ABCÂ’s This Week.

The end of the MFM can't come soon enough

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2013 05:26 AM (1Jaio)

332 ..one of those neighbors...25 cats... Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 09:22 AM (GoIUi) *** He has too many occupants. Check the Restrictive Covenants, it's there.

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at August 14, 2013 05:26 AM (VWfCN)

333 Fucking hell. Are y'all familiar with the term "mansplain"? It's a stupid feminist term for when a man explains something condescendingly to a more informed woman. I propose we tweak it to Gabesplain for this shit. Thanks, oh wise one, for explaining such a complex subject to our stupid little selves!

Posted by: Lauren at August 14, 2013 05:26 AM (ELdpj)

334 311 OSP,

The HOAs entire legal justification to exert the pressure they do is "protecting the property values collectively" OSP I'd conject the ability to sell the notion was largely a con and optical illusion akin to Timothy Treadwell's magic trick with the Kitmai National Forest Bears...

the market simply had other shit to focus on...

I went ahead and ignored my better judgement and built in an HOA area b/c "convienience" and I bear total responsibility...

it is illustrative that the HOA is if anything a beautiful microcosm of the structural rot of the American political world....

it's like a Japanese scale model actually.

I'd amputate Little Sven before I ever built under the auspices of "owner owners" again.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:27 AM (A4hKL)

335 293 Africans are africans, sure. But we went to war with Persians and Arabs.

Posted by: BornLib at August 14, 2013 05:27 AM (zpNwC)

336 Better question for WH briefing: Does the WH know whether or not SAMs went missing? Can't so easily pass that question off to an State or DoD or some agency for comment.

Posted by: USA at August 14, 2013 05:27 AM (VIaw0)

337 329 Best SciFi flick ever to that point.

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at August 14, 2013 05:28 AM (VWfCN)

338 We had a congressman, Brian Baird, decide to not run for re-election after one of those town halls. It shook his nerves. We haven't missed him

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 14, 2013 05:29 AM (Lqy/e)

339 Whoa, AG, don't snarl at me. Sorry. This is one of the subjects that gets my blood boiling. HOAs are the devil. This douche is worse. At least you knew going in that your neighborhood had an HOA. Short of interviewing all of your neighbors, there's no way to know that one of them is this big a dick.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 05:29 AM (/PCJa)

340 I'd amputate Little Sven before I ever built under the auspices of "owner owners" again. Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 09:27 AM (A4hKL) I guess we'll have to respectfully disagree. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQNBVsLR5F0

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:29 AM (XIxXP)

341

>>>"protecting the property values collectively

Thought it was "raising the tax base collectively"

Gots to go, ya'll. Later

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 05:30 AM (3ZtZW)

342 I would never buy a house in an area with an HOA, and if the neighbors tried to form one I'd sell. F that, enough trouble with taxes, I don't need to be nagged to death too.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 09:21 AM (3ZtZW)

Mine is delightful. The neighborhood's public spaces are immaculately maintained. The fees have not changed in three years. The gates work. I don't get any nastygrams. When my roof was being replaced after a hail storm and the roofer put up a sign, I got a very gentle note reminding me that the only signs allowed were realtor signs, signs about a party or celebration, and that was that.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 05:31 AM (kXoT0)

343 "The town halls were a vehicle, not to empower Congressmen, but to attack them." Accountability. The only way interpreted as an "attack" is when the congress critter has FAILED, except where deep pockets and sticky fingers suck tax funds down black holes and somehow the congress critter is "suddenly" more wealthy than evah. There are congressional district town halls which prove beneficial for all that attend and view online. And like I've said, "empowerment" is the two-edged sword that does the slice 'n dice on logic to redistribute inalienable rights, spreading that wealth with prejudicial favor for "more special" people, "more deserving" people -- devastating the idea and foundation that all are equal under the law. THIS is where making oneself a party within an "all about me" agenda destroys E Pluribus Unum.

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 14, 2013 05:31 AM (MhA4j)

344 I deduce from an article in the Washington Post that "The Butler" is in trouble. They are talking about how it shows the sweeping breadth of the Civil Rights movement (including Reagan vetoing sanctions on South Africa, of course) and makes the point that if this movie is a flop there will be fewer historical dramas and black films!! Emergency!!

http://tinyurl.com/mmxsur7

I predict we will see field trips organized to take kids to see this "important" film. Also, viewing parties organized by OFA and spreads in Vogue and Time and such. Big features on it on Today and Good Morning America.

I. Am. Not. Interested. At. All.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 05:31 AM (GoIUi)

345 #308 There have been persistent rumors of Calypso Louie's involvement but the DOJ, pre chinless shitstain, have shown no fucking interest in pursuing that; which is part of the "honest discussion" I'm ready to have with Stedman.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 14, 2013 05:31 AM (ySHbj)

346 Of course Gabe doesn't like town halls. Can't have those nasty Hobbits telling congressmen they're doing a piss-poor job of representing actual Americans and not just the illegals and special interests!

Posted by: Gaff at August 14, 2013 05:32 AM (jPS2y)

347 340 OSP,

and in theory in America we can still do that...

again the entire legal justification for the HOA's self-admittedly massive power grab on the ownership index is "to protect property values"....

I think this downturn has proven that it is a lot like Oz IMHO...

I am a conservative homeowner but the uneven enforcement of rules, the micromanaging bent trying to hustle up fines for "block parties" etc etc etc

Nah sorry I already have a set of asshole politicians to deal with...don't need an artificial one as well....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:33 AM (A4hKL)

348 Better question for WH briefing: Does the WH know whether or not SAMs went missing? You can't ask a yes/no type question. You have to phrase it so that they are forced to explain themselves. A better question to that effect would be: "When did the WH learn the SAM's went missing?" Then they have to either give an approximate time and date or deny any knowledge or dodge. "I refer you to the State Dept because I'm a dumbass."

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2013 05:34 AM (GQ8sn)

349 I would never buy a house in an area with an HOA, and if the neighbors tried to form one I'd sell. F that, enough trouble with taxes, I don't need to be nagged to death too.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 09:21 AM (3ZtZW)

Let it flop...just like 42 did this spring. Fifty/sixty years after the fact--breaking the color barrier is not novel, nouveau, or nuanced, what it is is over and done with.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 05:34 AM (kXoT0)

350 344 Miss Marple,

Orca Winnfried was on about it...

and it has "That Guy" with the droopy eye so "art"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:35 AM (A4hKL)

351 GOP_ Get involved today-send money!

GOP_ Please don't assume once elected we stand with You!

GOP_ Shut up and be nice!

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 05:35 AM (nqBYe)

352 Nah sorry I already have a set of asshole politicians to deal with...don't need an artificial one as well.... Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 09:33 AM (A4hKL) I understand how an empirial HOA prezzy can make shit nasty. But we have checks and balances, most of which is that half of us are rednecks.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:35 AM (XIxXP)

353 337 329 Best SciFi flick ever to that point. Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at August 14, 2013 09:28 AM (VWfCN) Yes. If Hollywood ever gets an idea to remake/reboot this, there will be shootings.

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2013 05:35 AM (GQ8sn)

354 349 Sherry McEvil,

Like Maet had in the ONT last evening....

11 ironclad rules of Wacism... "it is always 1959 and everywhere is Selma"...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:36 AM (A4hKL)

355 I hate HOA's, but yes, I belong to one. A house is usually your biggest investment and it should be protected I have never encountered an HOA that actually successfully did such a thing. HOAs do nothing about crime, which is a major driver of property values. They concern themselves with the color of your home, if your grass is too tall, whether you have a swing set in the back yard and other things that no one who isn't looking to buy your house is going to notice. When I looked at homes (before we bought our current house), here are the things I looked at outside the house itself: 1) Is the neighborhood relatively well kept? a) is there trash in the streets? b) are (lots of) cars up on blocks? c) are more of the houses run-down than not? 2) Does it look like children live here? a) are their bikes/balls/toys scattered around? b) do I see any kids right now? c) do people have signs for the local HS sports teams? Maybe, *maybe*, if a house had foot-tall grass, or had a bunch of windows smashed out I'd have noticed, but beyond that, I only cared about the house I was looking at.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 05:37 AM (/PCJa)

356 You know what?

Take a look at the work Matt Kibbe is doing in Texas--it's not just at the federal level, he's active at the state level.

He's actually DOING something, not on Twitter dropping bon mots of snark.

That's pretty pathetic, smearing him in with the dismissive, disdainful airs favored by the media class when discussing conservatives.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 14, 2013 05:37 AM (VjL9S)

357 Has MSNBC decided whether Rodeo Clown should be put down or vivisected?

Posted by: USA at August 14, 2013 05:37 AM (VIaw0)

358 I understand how an empirial HOA prezzy can make shit nasty. But we have checks and balances, most of which is that half of us are rednecks.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 09:35 AM (XIxXP)

Yup, rednecks with law degrees, rednecks with medical degrees, rednecks with computer science degrees, rednecks with MBAs, rednecks with small businesses, and just rednecks with an attitude. The President of the association is an attorney with his own practice--he is in the business of attracting business to his firm, so he does not want a rep of being an HOA @rsehole.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 05:39 AM (kXoT0)

359 Yes, it will get big attention. Miss Marple, and although I was initially interested I will boycott it because I think Oprah Winfrey's behavior over the store in Switzerland was puerile.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2013 05:39 AM (2Tv3A)

360 359 Fenlon Spoke,

Quite...as a matter of fact Orca's entire retreat is pretty indicative that she was trying to gin up traffic for the flick IMHO...

I used to be relatively agnostic about the cow bitch and actually respected her as a conman...

I am now wanting to burn her empire down.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:41 AM (A4hKL)

361 In "flurry of Asian shipbuilding" news, and Indian submarine has exploded and sunk at port.

http://tinyurl.com/mtofexx

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 14, 2013 05:41 AM (uYaYO)

362

I would never buy a house in an area with an HOA,
and if the neighbors tried to form one I'd sell. F that, enough trouble
with taxes, I don't need to be nagged to death too.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at August 14, 2013 09:21 AM (3ZtZW)

-------

True dat, but in my area I didn't have much choice. So I did the next best thing...I got a seat on the Board where I'm in a very good position to guard against the excesses that stereotype HOAs.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 14, 2013 05:41 AM (eytER)

363 My b-i-l's family lives in the ultimate HOA, Peach tree City in Georgia. Each yard has the same trees, spaced equally, with alternating ones getting white, non-flashing, Christmas lights for a well-defined, enforced time frame. Tons of stuff like that. He doesn't mind, takes the decision-making out of his hands. And it is a very nice place, with it's own lake, golf course, etc., so there are benefits.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 14, 2013 05:42 AM (ZshNr)

364 Those town halls are an embarrassment to us all. What if one of those rubes farted near the mic during one of our canned condescension stump speeches?

Posted by: The GOP Elite at August 14, 2013 05:42 AM (Dwehj)

365 Maybe, *maybe*, if a house had foot-tall grass, or had a bunch of windows smashed out I'd have noticed, but beyond that, I only cared about the house I was looking at. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 09:37 AM (/PCJa) I can't argue any of the points against HOA's that others bring up. They only know what they experiance. I know this, My hood is beautiful, my big pool is clean and sparkly, my sidewalks have not a trip hazard and there are no errant spray painted tags.If it begins to creep into my business, I'll deal with it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:43 AM (XIxXP)

366 "They're pushing for town halls to make a scene. Good for them. But I don't see why their representatives would agree to that. Particularly when these activists have come right out and stated their motives." Gabe is quite correct you know. I don't think he was suggesting that there shouldn't be Town Halls. He was saying Congresspeople aren't having them because they don't want to be confronted which is pretty obvious. I don't know about birthers being at them but I'll take his word for it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2013 05:43 AM (2Tv3A)

367 He's actually DOING something, not on Twitter dropping bon mots of snark.

--

Which, obviously, makes him an extreeeeeemist.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 14, 2013 05:43 AM (XB5Ak)

368 Oprah is back to screaming racism.

Posted by: Waldo at August 14, 2013 05:43 AM (JBCFN)

369 Yes, it will get big attention. Miss Marple, and although I was initially interested I will boycott it because I think Oprah Winfrey's behavior over the store in Switzerland was puerile.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2013 09:39 AM (2Tv3A)

I will boycott it because Oprah. Her behavior in Switzerland was stupid. If I had a billion dollars and I wanted to look at any merchandise anywhere--I would do so. If the boutique actually refused to let me examine merchandise, I would buy the boutique and go from there. She was just ginning up publicity for the movie. It is also why she finally broke her silence and finally weighed on the bad taste and racism of her dear friend, Paula Deen.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 05:43 AM (kXoT0)

370 >>Speaking of birthers, it occurs to me that one reason GOP Congressmen would avoid town halls is to avoid embarrassing viral videos where they get confronted by birthers. Ha ha ha ha ha *gasp* ha! Shouldn't our betters know how to handle loonies by now? The simplest explanation is that the people who elected these folks are pissed off that they are not doing what they were asked to do. They are NOT serving as an opposition party. In fact, they seem determined to roll over or collude with Dems on the biggest issues: immigration and Obamacare. Whether or not one thinks the GOP Congress can do much to stop Obamacare, there is no debating that that is a major issue for the dreaded base. THAT's what these cowards are afraid of, not some YouTube video. Although I do think it's funny as hell that YouTube videos are being adopted as the catch-all excuse.

Posted by: Y-not hasn't read the comments at August 14, 2013 05:44 AM (5H6zj)

371 Take a look at the work Matt Kibbe is doing in Texas--it's not just at the federal level, he's active at the state level.

He's actually DOING something

Which is why Gabe hates him. The fact that he's not already tearing into Cruz makes me think there's something we're missing about Cruz.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 14, 2013 05:44 AM (OevbG)

372

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 14, 2013 09:41 AM (eytER)

My HOA is neglected and uncared for. So technically I have one, as long as I don't submit a request to bulldoze my house and replace it with a penis sculpture I think I'll be OK.

As a side note, it's hard to find a house without some HOA here. The county mandates certain common ground levels for storm water run off, and that common ground has to be maintained, thus HOAs abound.

But aside for just restating the county rules, they really don't have power over much else. Fences apparently.

Although arguably putting a fence on the property line does affect my neighbors directly, so I suppose they have a certain say in it.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 14, 2013 05:44 AM (GaqMa)

373

Didn't read more than a few comments before I got the feeling of doom through internet osmosis. I miss the haiku threads, the Deep Thought threads, movies threads , list threads, etc.

I don't get the constant need to complain about everything 24/7.

Posted by: polynikes at August 14, 2013 05:44 AM (m2CN7)

374 This is my favorite HOA story evah.
http://is.gd/1qZqvU

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 14, 2013 05:45 AM (/kI1Q)

375 Oprah is back to screaming racism. Posted by: Waldo at August 14, 2013 09:43 AM (JBCFN) When the talent runs dry, you use what you have.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:45 AM (XIxXP)

376 The thing with Rich american folks in the limelight of hollywood.

They believe they are queen and kings of life.
they roll out the red carpet for them . everyday in every way .

When someone misses the fact that they are OPRAH, I mean OPRAH How could anyone miss that!
a Billionaire. That somehow wasn't given a chance ! Because depressing Mean and sickening places like the U.S.A.

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 05:45 AM (nqBYe)

377 The fact that he's not already tearing into Cruz makes me think there's something we're missing about Cruz. ------ Cruz is an attorney. QED. /s

Posted by: Y-not hasn't read the comments at August 14, 2013 05:46 AM (5H6zj)

378 358 Sherry McEvil,

Basically in my own case the HOA is a con ran by a developer that left topsoil better measured in millimeters when he converted one of his cornfields into "housing" exerting financial pressure from beyond the grave on "his" neighborhood in the form of "holy covenant" and such...I've had to buy the same damn tree every year like clockwork to meet the "37th commandment" on number of trees in the front yard....

I'll be doing it while I am not occupying the place and far from "home."

I know this is hard to believe but I am less than impressed that some wizened magician is scrying the portents and omens of valuation witchery and that the devaluation of the spread was a result of some failure of Feng Shui based Geomancy in horticulture....

at any rate I adhere to the fucktardery...I honor contracts but the day I divest and relocate to an area where *I* am in fact the owner will be a happy one.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:46 AM (A4hKL)

379 Funniest thing I read on Twitter today was some dude in Utah saying that because turnout was low in this off-year municipal primary, the caucus system we use for the presidential primaries is not suppressing turnout.

Posted by: Y-not hasn't read the comments at August 14, 2013 05:47 AM (5H6zj)

380 >>I don't get the constant need to complain about everything 24/7.
Posted by: polynikes at August 14, 2013 09:44 AM (m2CN7)

You're an asshole

Now take that and run wild with it.

You're welcome

Posted by: ontherocks at August 14, 2013 05:48 AM (/bEQ/)

381 363 My b-i-l's family lives in the ultimate HOA, Peach tree City in Georgia. I stayed there for an extended training course a few years ago. Place is creepy. They have the highest per-capita rate of golf-cart ownership in the country, probably the world. It is most peoples primary method of transport. They have imitation Benz, Cadillac, BMW carts tooling all over there. It's a weird place...

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 14, 2013 05:48 AM (tiHWQ)

382 So, this is it?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at August 14, 2013 05:48 AM (4p5/2)

383 I don't get the constant need to complain about everything 24/7.

Welcome to life in your fundamentally transformed third world commie shithole.

Posted by: Methos at August 14, 2013 05:48 AM (hO9ad)

384 I know this, My hood is beautiful, my big pool is clean and sparkly, my sidewalks have not a trip hazard and there are no errant spray painted tags. Is it your pool, or the HOA's pool? Because those are two different things. The HOAs that actually provide services are not quite as evil as other HOAs, but they're still evil. I shouldn't have to ask someone's permission to build a shed in my back yard. As for the sidewalks and graffiti... those aren't HOA issues (or, they wouldn't be in my neck of the woods, your city ordinances may be different). In Arlington, the city owns the sidewalks- which means when they start breaking, the city has to fix them. And the only buildings in our neighborhood are homes, so "graffiti" would be the responsibility of the person who was vandalized to clean up (responsibility as in "actually doing it or having someone do it." assuming they caught the vandal, s/h/it would be "responsible" for the damages).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 05:49 AM (/PCJa)

385 I would never buy a house in an area with an HOA, and if the neighbors tried to form one I'd sell. -- Decades ago we purchased our home outside of town in a M.U.D. district "master planned community" with simple property deed restrictions. Our subdivision had five different home builders, plenty of variety in floor plans and facades. Most importantly, we had green belts, FIVE large parks within the half-square-mile community, and an olympic size neighborhood pool. Membership in the HOA was optional, but paid one's dues for the pool. The fee was $12./month. Our M.U.D. provided all the professional pool maintenance, wages for personnel, and landscaping maintenance of the parks that featured lovely wildflowers, regular watering and no tall overgrown grass ever. It was GREAT until we were incorporated into the town. Property owners in our subdivision were written a letter from the city attorney announcing that our deed restrictions would NOT be enforced by the city. The city itself had no parks. It confiscated ours as city parks. You can imagine how polluted the pool became, mismanaged by goofball city employees without a clue as to sanitation. The parks were no longer watered, and were rented out to regional soccer and football teams. We could keep our neighborhood association if we wanted, we were told; but it had no power to enforce any restrictions. The neighborhood quickly became a rental area, and some new neighbors parked up to 8 cars per tract home. The city created the circumstances for an unattractive neighborhood community. Sure, we fought back by electing neighbors into city council and new mayor. But those neighbors, once elected, moved into newer subdivisions and rented our parks to the metro-area youth sports leagues before building city parks. Imagine your narrow streets plugged by cars. Parks had no parking lots, much less toilet facilities. In case of a fire or any emergency, there was no way for responders to get through the city's instigated fiasco. Progress.

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 14, 2013 05:49 AM (MhA4j)

386 A couple of months ago they were saying The Butler would win an academy award or Oprah would win - though no one had seen it. lol I have this fear it will get an oscar due to trayvonites. In fact, I can see the Martins in the audience when they award the oscars. I just hope the movie flops. I'm sick of this shit. If it flops they will blame raaaccciiisssmm! - or may loudmouth oprah.

Posted by: Waldo at August 14, 2013 05:49 AM (JBCFN)

387 .......I'd now like to lodge a complaint about pixy

Posted by: ontherocks at August 14, 2013 05:50 AM (/bEQ/)

388 When the talent runs dry, you use what you have. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 09:45 AM (XIxXP) Heh. I read this as, "when the taint runs dry."

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 14, 2013 05:50 AM (GwLJQ)

389 371 Ian S,

You sir, are a cunning mind....

if the borderline friend of my enemy does not view my avatar as an enemy then there is a reason to reassess my avatar.

Nicely played.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:50 AM (A4hKL)

390

OK Horde,

I'm out, time to go on my morning Ammo Hunt, I have two good leads if I leave soon.

In any case.

Before I go.

Piers Organ is at it again screaming "Sandy HOOOOK" every time someone makes a point against him.

But guard against this, he's deliberately misleading the LIVs with strange stats about the "Gun Crime" level in Britain (and Australia, but let's focus on Britain now.)

See "Gun Crime" is lower in Britain, ergo, gun control works according to the halfwit.

But as we all know, *total crime* (or violent crime more specifically) is what really matters in the day to day. And SURPRISE, violent crime is double per capita what it is in the US. "Gun Crime" is only lower due to lack of guns. Incidentally "Beach Crime" is lower in MO than in California. Clearly our Beach ban is working.

I know this goes without saying here, but keep an eye out in case any Libtard tries to snare you with it.

The British reality:

"Help, I've been robbed!"

"Happens here a lot ma'am, twice as much as in the US!"

"Well thank goodness he didn't use a gun!"

(No really, that's dipshit's argument.)

Posted by: tsrblke at August 14, 2013 05:50 AM (GaqMa)

391 So, this is it?

You'll get no content, and you'll like it.

Posted by: Ace of Smails HQ at August 14, 2013 05:50 AM (uYaYO)

392 Is it your pool, or the HOA's pool? Because those are two different things. HOA pool.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:51 AM (XIxXP)

393

Oprah is back to screaming racism.
Posted by: Waldo at August 14, 2013 09:43 AM (JBCFN)

She played her AMEX "black card". My Lord, you can't write that kind of stuff. Did she get it from Jesse J. or Sharpton?

Posted by: Roy at August 14, 2013 05:51 AM (VndSC)

394 26 Is that about the size of it? Gevalt.Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2013 07:04 AM (+98Gb) -- Wouldn't want to make them uncomfortable *** Maybe we should make all Republicans take sensitivity training. I remember those great old cowboy movies where John Wayne would head the bad guys off at the pass then they would all sit down for some sensitivity training.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 14, 2013 05:51 AM (ee9LE)

395 Yeah, I went for a few Christmases. It was exactly as you describe. The kids take golf carts to school, to the community pool, even a Wal-Mart based plaza that you access via a golf cart tunnel under the highway.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 14, 2013 05:52 AM (ZshNr)

396 >>>They're pushing for town halls to make a scene. They are pushing for town halls because they are desperate to save a dying republic.

Posted by: Eton Cox at August 14, 2013 05:52 AM (QCc6B)

397 Mine is delightful. The neighborhood's public spaces are immaculately maintained. The fees have not changed in three years. The gates work. I don't get any nastygrams. When my roof was being replaced after a hail storm and the roofer put up a sign, I got a very gentle note reminding me that the only signs allowed were realtor signs, signs about a party or celebration, and that was that. Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 09:31 AM (kXoT0) Yeah. Tell you what, here's what is going to happen. The current board members will either move, die or decide they don't want to do it any longer. Then the biggest troublemaker in the neighborhood will be elected and will begin ramming through changes. That "nice" note you got? That will be replaced by a warning about whatever complete with citation to the exact bylaw and regulation. Fines will be levied. In point of fact, there's a very strong argument to be made that the current HOA directors violated their fiduciary duty to the HOA by not immediately slapping you with a penalty for that sign. The HOA exists for itself, not for you. Unless the bylaws require notice first, there is a duty to fine and collect. That they did not is improper. Next step? All those very quiet deals where Grandma Tompkins was allowed to slide on her HOA fees because everyone knows that she can't afford it and she's trying to help her son keep his house will go flying out the window and a lien will be placed on the house. There is an obligation to treat every owner equally and, again unless there is a provision for exemptions in the bylaws, the board will be in breach of their fiduciary duty by not placing liens on each and every property that is behind on payments, no matter the reason. After that? Then comes the auditing of the books and the discovery that various and sundry repair work has been put off and there now needs to be a $10,000 per home special assessment that must be paid within 90 days. Don't pay it? Lien on the home and, if your state allows it, foreclosure on the property for not paying the assessment. Scream all you like, doesn't matter. Pay me or you will lose your home. As someone who has worked on both sides of the HOA issue, it is my very very firm opinion that HOAs are the devil.

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 05:52 AM (VtjlW)

398 I don't get the constant need to complain about everything 24/7.

All is well!

Posted by: Chip Dildo at August 14, 2013 05:52 AM (Dwehj)

399 381 Brave Sir Robin,

Yeah Pretty Much....

at its worst it is Stepford sans hot drillbot wives...

now we suceeded in running off the Grey Panther fogey that was in charge for the three whole years I was resident with a GI...

the guy has kids and a life outside HOA godhood and I'll ask my tenant if things have calmed down...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 05:53 AM (A4hKL)

400 Posted by: Waldo at August 14, 2013 09:49 AM (JBCFN) Of course it ill get an Oscar. That's pretty much predetermined in this case.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2013 05:53 AM (2Tv3A)

401 Posted by: ontherocks at August 14, 2013 09:50 AM (/bEQ/)

Andy has assured us that it will all be fixed soon.

#twoweeks

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 05:53 AM (gqgiP)

402 I shouldn't have to ask someone's permission to build a shed in my back yard. -- Then again, how would you like your next door neighbor to build as many storage facilities as can fill the backyard, and park broken down auto relics throughout the front driveway, blocking the sidewalk?

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 14, 2013 05:53 AM (MhA4j)

403 #384 We have 2 groups: the club (maintains pool, clubhouse, tennis courts, basketball courts and grounds surrounding same AND the HOA, which is simply a group which you may or may not belong to.

The covenants that went with the property are the things that draw the HOA and irate neighbors in. For example, sheds may be no larger than a certain dimension. This may sound draconian, but we have had instances over the last 20 years where people wanted to put pole barns in their back yards. Since this is not a subdivision with huge lots, said pole barn could diminish sunlight in a neighbor's back yard.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 05:54 AM (GoIUi)

404 I'd now like to lodge a complaint about pixy

Back of the line, pal.

Posted by: The AoS hamsters at August 14, 2013 05:54 AM (Dwehj)

405 I believe Oprah was once an attendee of Rev. Wright's church.

i might mis-remember that, but i don't think so.

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 05:54 AM (nqBYe)

406 Still banned at the house.

If swelling persists longer than 4 hours, go pants-less, in the meantime.

10 Products Â“ScientificallyÂ” Tested
http://bit.ly/1a4qFCF
You can do anything in the name of science, anything.

Posted by: sTevo at August 14, 2013 05:54 AM (voIOX)

407 I've been praying that SOMEONE would come up with a good WH butler movie.

Finally someone is filling that gaping void in our national story.

Posted by: ontherocks at August 14, 2013 05:54 AM (/bEQ/)

408 Time to walk the doggehs. Later rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 14, 2013 05:54 AM (XIxXP)

409

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 09:49 AM (/PCJa)

FWIW, AllenG, many subdivisions here formed prior to their annexing by the incorporated cities.

And so were actually responsible for their own sidewalks. (That changed some point later when the county took over the sidewalks for unincorporated areas.)

In any case my indentures still note that sidewalks are part of the HOA's job. (Even though we were annexed in the 90s.)

Before you ask, it's not worth complaining the HOA is slacking on it's duty. The city takes fine care of the sidewalks and the HOA fee is still what it was in 1965, not inflation adjusted, in real dollars. In fact since it requires 2/3 of houses to approve, I doubt it'll ever go up (not 2/3 present, 2/3 of houses, you'd never get that as a meeting.)

Posted by: tsrblke at August 14, 2013 05:54 AM (GaqMa)

410 Oprah is back to screaming racism. --Yeah. She is racist.

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 14, 2013 05:54 AM (MhA4j)

411 Time to walk the doggehs. Later rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet

At least you get the same production out of that as sitting here reading comments.

Posted by: Roy at August 14, 2013 05:55 AM (VndSC)

412 hoa- not for me.
hoa-some like it.

that's ok.

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 05:55 AM (nqBYe)

413 A couple of months ago they were saying The Butler would win an academy award or Oprah would win - though no one had seen it. lol *** If I were Nostradamus I would write a quatrain about Mooch winning a Grammy for her hip hop album to be released next month.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 14, 2013 05:55 AM (ee9LE)

414 I'd now like to lodge a complaint about pixy You have to file it thru your HOA first...

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 05:55 AM (p9JxP)

415 "....it is my very very firm opinion that HOAs are the devil."

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 09:52 AM (VtjlW)

Incorrect.

HOAs are the Devil's imps.

Co-op boards are the Devil.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 05:55 AM (gqgiP)

416 408. I'd better go as well.

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 14, 2013 05:56 AM (MhA4j)

417 Welcome Jack Germond!

Posted by: Hellen Thomas at August 14, 2013 05:56 AM (xTCyN)

418 alex's tea.

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 05:57 AM (nqBYe)

419 #405 You are correct. She made a point of saying she left when some of the sermons made her uncomfortable.

I think she realized that Reverend Wright was sooner or later draw attention that would have rubbed off on her.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 05:57 AM (GoIUi)

420 A riot is an ugly thing, and I think it is just about time that we had one.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at August 14, 2013 05:58 AM (CMbMd)

421 And here I thought HOA was something you yelled to get your pony to stop.

Posted by: Low Information Voter at August 14, 2013 05:59 AM (Dwehj)

422 Has anyone in political circles in MO actually said that there were clown rodeos with masks of Bush and other President before this or are they too cowed by the Democratic machine and the NAACP?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2013 05:59 AM (2Tv3A)

423

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 09:52 AM (VtjlW)

Heh,

My HOA gave up and hired an outside firm to collect fees and manage money.

And as I noted special assessments aren't allowed, (prohibited in the bylaws) and the fee is unlikely to be raised due to the extreme vote it'd require.

I know it can go south, my dad was chair of an HOA when it sued a member of the subdivision for putting up an illegal fence.

Of course the fence was ugly, poorly built, and the neighbors complained (and in fairness, it does sit on the property line so, contra AllenG, it has a direct effect on the neighbor's property value.)

I think my dad would have rather not gotten into it, but what are you going to do when the people are fighting you on it. He resigned the next year (didn't run for re-election.)

Posted by: tsrblke at August 14, 2013 05:59 AM (GaqMa)

424 Thank you, willow *sips* Incorrect. HOAs are the Devil's imps. Co-op boards are the Devil. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 09:55 AM (gqgiP) Ahhh, fair point. I extend and revise my remarks.

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 06:00 AM (VtjlW)

425 My HOA maintains a pool with lifeguards, a pond,,and a park. They're not too big on enforcement, unfortunately. I'd be happy if they got the cars off the street.

Posted by: Lauren at August 14, 2013 06:00 AM (ELdpj)

426 Jesse Jackson's sentencing is today. I can't find the time though.

Posted by: Waldo at August 14, 2013 06:00 AM (JBCFN)

427 and park broken down auto relics throughout the front driveway, blocking the sidewalk? City code enforcement nazi then goes fugazi on their ass. Towing said vehicles at $380.00 a pop. $240.00 towing fee, $140.00 administrative fee.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 06:01 AM (p9JxP)

428 29 MPPP is absolutely right -- not a fan (to put it mildly) of taking Christ's name in vain, but I completely share the frustration it represents, and I'm tired of this otherwise fairly good conservative blog having a regular morning post by a fifth-columnist.

Posted by: Bubba at August 14, 2013 06:02 AM (8tLzE)

429 Then again, how would you like your next door neighbor to build as many storage facilities as can fill the backyard, and park broken down auto relics throughout the front driveway, blocking the sidewalk? Did you see my post earlier about what I looked for? If he's blocking the sidewalk (in my neck of the woods), he's in violation of city codes. He can move the cars or have them towed (at his expense). If he's blocking my property, it's even more so. But- it's his house. It's his back yard. It's his front yard. They're his cars. That means I have (or should have) zero say (beyond any actual infractions he's committing).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 06:02 AM (/PCJa)

430

"You don't hold a town hall to win voters. It's not your average voter that attends anyway. "

***

Yeah, it's the voters who are actually paying attention and who care. Who knew?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 14, 2013 06:02 AM (pxDth)

431 Although I do think it's funny as hell that YouTube videos are being adopted as the catch-all excuse. Someone, probably someone not in the US, should post an Obama Gaffes Supercut with Benny Hill music. Give him a real reason to blame YT for stuff.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 14, 2013 06:02 AM (OevbG)

432 Shouldn't our betters know how to handle loonies by now? *** You can still ask that after all these years of them trying to deal with Reid and Pelosi?

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 14, 2013 06:02 AM (ee9LE)

433 Ironically, Oprah also came under fire today from the Swiss animal rights group Four Paws (Vier Pfoten) which slammed her for wanting to buy a crocodile skin bag and called on Trois Pommes to withdraw the item from sale. Â‘We do not know if Ms. Winfrey actually wanted to buy the bag,Â’ said Chantal HÃ¤berling, spokeswoman for the group. Â‘But she should know crocodiles suffer for the production of such items. Â‘The animals are kept in extremely small enclosures,' she said. 'To kill them the animals are beaten with a hammer on the head, and in some farms and it sometimes takes two hours before they are dead.Â’ Oprah is an avowed animal rights spokeswoman. PETA, the worldÂ’s largest animal rights group, named her Â“person of the yearÂ” in 2008 after she spoke out against the wearing of fur. I LOL'd. Hypocrites. h/t dailymail.co.uk via THEgatewaypundit.com

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 14, 2013 06:02 AM (IXrOn)

434 377 The fact that he's not already tearing into Cruz makes me think there's something we're missing about Cruz.
------
Cruz is an attorney.

QED.

/s

Posted by: Y-not hasn't read the comments at August 14, 2013 09:46 AM (5H6zj)

Would also be pretty ridiculous to watch Gabe try and tear into the reasoning of a lawyer that has argued and won before the Supreme Court. It'd be like a Junior High quarterback criticizing Tom Brady's throwing motion.

Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2013 06:02 AM (LI48c)

435 A riot is an ugly thing, and I think it is just about time that we had one.

No, no. We need to keep peacefully paying our taxes and voting GOP because they're not the other guys and hoping that somehow things will get better.

Posted by: Methos at August 14, 2013 06:03 AM (hO9ad)

436 Has anyone in political circles in MO actually said that there were clown rodeos with masks of Bush and other President before this or are they too cowed by the Democratic machine and the NAACP? Boooosh masks are so 2012. Besides, he's white.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 06:03 AM (p9JxP)

437 After that? Then comes the auditing of the books and the discovery that various and sundry repair work has been put off and there now needs to be a $10,000 per home special assessment that must be paid within 90 days. Don't pay it? Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 09:52 AM (VtjlW)

Nope, our finances are handled by a professional HOA business management group that is audited and regulated. Yeah, the folks in charge may move or die or whatever, but, until then, as a single woman, my neighborhood is safe and clean.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 06:03 AM (kXoT0)

438 "Never meet with the people you represent in Congress" ~ Stuff Jefferson Said, 3rd. Ed.

Posted by: Andy at August 14, 2013 06:04 AM (kZyv8)

439 hoa-some like it.

So some like it HOA-t?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 14, 2013 06:04 AM (uYaYO)

440 My hoa charges too much. And she's down to three teeth. Yikes.

Posted by: Low Information Voter at August 14, 2013 06:05 AM (Dwehj)

441 386
A couple of months ago they were saying The Butler would win an academy award or Oprah would win - though no one had seen it. lol

I have this fear it will get an oscar due to trayvonites. In fact, I can see the Martins in the audience when they award the oscars. I just hope the movie flops. I'm sick of this shit. If it flops they will blame raaaccciiisssmm! - or may loudmouth oprah.

Posted by: Waldo at August 14, 2013 09:49 AM (JBCFN)

The fact that it is getting released in mid/late August is all you need to know.

Late August release up to Labor Day generally indicates shit, and shit so bad even the studio knows it and so they are just dumping it to get some money and be done with it.

Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2013 06:05 AM (LI48c)

442 391 So, this is it? You'll get no content, and you'll like it. Where's that humongous guy? He always brings the pain. I'd settle for SMODÂ™.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at August 14, 2013 06:05 AM (4p5/2)

443 I, for one, will never buy another $35,000 purse in Switzerland.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 14, 2013 06:06 AM (ee9LE)

444 The animals are kept in extremely small enclosures,' she said. 'To kill them the animals are beaten with a hammer on the head, and in some farms and it sometimes takes two hours before they are dead. Get Troy Landry. He can choot 'em.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 06:06 AM (p9JxP)

445 Yeah, the folks in charge may move or die or whatever, but, until then, as a single woman, my neighborhood is safe and clean. Funny. The only neighborhood I've ever lived in (including as a child) that had a drug-house was in an HOA. The neighborhood where I grew up was not an HOA, and it was always safe and clean. Almost as though the HOA is not actually necessary at all. I'm not saying a particular person can't have a good experience with their particular HOA. I am, however, saying that HOAs (in the main) are evil. There's also the little problem I have with having to pay someone so that *they* can exercise rights over *my* property. Shouldn't they be paying me for that privilege?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 06:07 AM (/PCJa)

446 Waterhouse they do indeed.

for myself I have a rather stupid idea my property is mine to do with as i see fit. If i want a red front door , so be it!

however if you buy in an HOA you might like the conformity of nothing grating or bothersome anywhere around .

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 06:07 AM (nqBYe)

447 405 I believe Oprah was once an attendee of Rev. Wright's church. i might mis-remember that, but i don't think so. Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 09:54 AM (nqBYe) you remembered correctly

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 14, 2013 06:07 AM (8JJ6O)

448 stupid idea s in i realize taxes never go away and if my ability to pay them does, WALLA no longer mine.

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 06:08 AM (nqBYe)

449 stupid idea s in i realize taxes never go away and if my ability to pay them does, WALLA no longer mine. walla?

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2013 06:09 AM (GQ8sn)

450 Waldo....going on right now. Listening to WLS in Chicago. Will report as soon as any info is available.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at August 14, 2013 06:09 AM (1M/xn)

451 Nope, our finances are handled by a professional HOA business management group that is audited and regulated. Yeah, the folks in charge may move or die or whatever, but, until then, as a single woman, my neighborhood is safe and clean. Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 14, 2013 10:03 AM (kXoT0) You are very damn lucky then. Good for you and I say that with no snark. Keep a weather eye out for changes though. I've seen HOAs that were a model for how to be run go from that to a horror story from Hell in less than a year.

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 06:09 AM (VtjlW)

452 Because being required to hold open-forum "town-hall" meetings is in the Constitution. Or something.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 14, 2013 06:10 AM (dcoFe)

453 EC, er uhm, it is not a real word?

shleps back outside to ponder plant leaves and to think on it.

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 06:10 AM (nqBYe)

454 There's also the little problem I have with having to pay someone so that *they* can exercise rights over *my* property. Shouldn't they be paying me for that privilege?

I don't see the problem with this.

Posted by: Every level of every government, ever at August 14, 2013 06:11 AM (hO9ad)

455 Now here's a woman conservative women should pay attention to Sydney Leathers thinks Republican women are uptight (and gets a smackdown from conservative blogger Sister Toldjah): http://tinyurl.com/qxwcvx3

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2013 06:11 AM (2Tv3A)

456 450 Waldo....going on right now. Listening to WLS in Chicago. Will report as soon as any info is available. Posted by: Buckeye Katie at August 14, 2013 10:09 AM (1M/xn) Thanks!

Posted by: Waldo at August 14, 2013 06:11 AM (JBCFN)

457 >>stupid idea s in i realize taxes never go away and if my ability to pay them does, WALLA no longer mine.

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 10:08 AM (nqBYe)

willow, you been drinking tea with sven?

Posted by: ontherocks at August 14, 2013 06:11 AM (/oUoX)

458 walla similar to Ta-Da but not similar at all?

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 06:11 AM (nqBYe)

459 Jackson sentencing update.... Judge says no restitution above the $750,000 forfeiture already imposed.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at August 14, 2013 06:12 AM (1M/xn)

460

The first thing I did after becoming president of the HOA was to assess every homeowner $10,000 (due immediately) and raise the dues from $30 per quarter to $120 per month.

It didn't go over to well, but in the end, I got it.

The big question was what to do with people who had two lots, with their house on one and the other as just extra land. Do you whack them double for everything or cut them slack?

We ended up with a small surcharge for the extra lot.

Posted by: jwest at August 14, 2013 06:12 AM (u2a4R)

461 Posted by: WalrusRex at August 14, 2013 10:06 AM (ee9LE) Bravo. LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2013 06:12 AM (2Tv3A)

462 growls at EC. wanders off.

moisture misting out of my ears

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 06:12 AM (nqBYe)

463 EC, er uhm, it is not a real word? shleps back outside to ponder plant leaves and to think on it. Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 10:10 AM (nqBYe) Did you mean voila?

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2013 06:12 AM (GQ8sn)

464 Willow, I think you meant VOILA!

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 14, 2013 06:13 AM (osdNx)

465 Voila!

yes that's it.

whew! moar coffee!

fcol, red faced.

ok plants need me and don't care about what sounds i make.

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 06:14 AM (nqBYe)

466 Willow's commenting. Where's the new thread dammit?

Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2013 06:14 AM (LI48c)

467 453 EC, er uhm, it is not a real word? shleps back outside to ponder plant leaves and to think on it. Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 10:10 AM (nqBYe) ---- Yeah, but French. So take that as you will.

Posted by: Gingy at August 14, 2013 06:14 AM (aH+zP)

468 lol, afterwards i will sit in the corner with a funny hat.

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 06:14 AM (nqBYe)

469 460 JWest,

Yeah you know I don't find that hard to believe coming from you in the least...

it all sorta fits truth be told...

I'd happily pay my house off and sell it for a penny BTW for that level of fuckholery...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 06:15 AM (A4hKL)

470 314 I still think the behavior of Hannah Anderson is bizarre. She was rescued on Sat and learned then that her mother and brother were murdered. You know she was raped repeatedly because if uncle jim is going to kill her mother, father, and dog, he's not going to take no for an answer. So, she arrived home on Sunday. On Tuesday, she was fielding questions on the internet like who is her favorite singer, showing her nails which she had done at a salon, and posting smiling selfies. *** I talk to kids who are victims of sex assault all the time and the thing about them is that they are still kids. I imagine she is trying to recreate normalcy.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 14, 2013 06:15 AM (ee9LE)

471 Jackson sentencing update.....entire Jackson family there. Why is the sentencing in Wash Dc not Chicago? Sentencing guidelines say no probation for JJ Jr. The family had a prayer circle before entering the courtroom.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at August 14, 2013 06:15 AM (1M/xn)

472 Willow good to see you're alive.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 06:15 AM (A4hKL)

473 465 Voila! yes that's it. whew! moar coffee! fcol, red faced. ok plants need me and don't care about what sounds i make. Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 10:14 AM (nqBYe) LOL! No harm, no foul willow!

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2013 06:15 AM (GQ8sn)

474 Woke up this morning to find I am being followed on Twitter by James Woods

so now I can't do poop jokes on Twitter anymore- gotta be interesting

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 14, 2013 06:15 AM (8sCoq)

475 Posted by: jwest at August 14, 2013 10:12 AM (u2a4R)

Wow. I don't think I've ever seen someone so shamelessly brag about being a thief.

Posted by: Methos at August 14, 2013 06:16 AM (hO9ad)

476 467 453 EC, er uhm, it is not a real word?

shleps back outside to ponder plant leaves and to think on it.
Posted by: willow at August 14, 2013 10:10 AM (nqBYe)
----
Yeah, but French. So take that as you will.

Posted by: Gingy at August 14, 2013 10:14 AM (aH+zP)

Crazy Gibberish!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7osGfFTQVtU

Posted by: Professor Farnsworth at August 14, 2013 06:16 AM (LI48c)

477 A-ha!

Willow is saying "Voila!"

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 06:16 AM (GoIUi)

478 Yay, this awesome Oracle program yet again refuses to work meaning I can't do my job. Thanks, buttmunchers.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 14, 2013 06:16 AM (osdNx)

479 471 Buckeye Katie,

Ah see...so there it is...

Ogabe thinks $upra Je$$e II has been punished enough....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 06:17 AM (A4hKL)

480 > keep on keeping on that dream of Obama signing repeal of his signature legislation, I guess. Gosh, wouldn't that be more likely if we took back the Senate, though, wouldn't it?

yep- you need a veto-proof majority- a rare thing indeed

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 14, 2013 06:17 AM (8sCoq)

481

Posted by: Methos at August 14, 2013 10:16 AM (hO9ad)

Don't feed the troll.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 14, 2013 06:17 AM (tVWQB)

482 The family had a prayer circle before entering the courtroom.

Any indication which deity they were asking for help?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 14, 2013 06:18 AM (/kI1Q)

483 Off the top of my head, lectures disguised as "movies" that have come out during the reign of the JEF (and flopped):

The Help
42
The Butler

Are there others?

Anyway, the folks were down over the winter and the rest of them wanted to watch a movie. They settled on The Help. I said, "F that noise" and went and watched football.

It had the effect they wanted it to have on my dad. Until I told him it was unrefined bullshit through and through. Had to explain to him the reality of race relations in the South--being that I live here--are nowhere near the portrayal by the fucks on the West Coast. That the whole point of the movie was to try and make you feel bad for something you didn't do, would never have done, to people you don't know and that there is nothing to "fix."

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 14, 2013 06:19 AM (VjL9S)

484 Yay, this awesome Oracle program yet again refuses to work

You need to install Linux! Problem solved!

Posted by: That Linux Guy at August 14, 2013 06:19 AM (Dwehj)

485 I'd happily pay my house off and sell it for a penny BTW for that level of fuckholery... ---- To an Arab sheik, his five wives and 13 goats.

Posted by: Y-not at August 14, 2013 06:20 AM (5H6zj)

486 Woke up this morning to find I am being followed on Twitter by James Woods No shit? "Let me just ask you one thing - after 600 years, how's that dick workin', pretty good?" hehehe...

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2013 06:21 AM (GQ8sn)

487 I am getting real tired of The World According to Oprah.

And I bet she has a HOA where she lives. Gail probably runs it.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 06:21 AM (GoIUi)

488

"Wow. I don't think I've ever seen someone so shamelessly brag about being a thief."

Thief?

I didn't take the money to Vegas to blow on gambling and hookers.

The previous leadership of the HOA didn't make any provisions to repave the private road we live on. It needed replacement so everyone needed to pony up the cash. On top of that, people needed to start contributing to a fund to replace it next time.

Ignoring responsibilities and giving everyone happy talk is what liberals do. Facing up to the realities of the situation is what conservatives do.

Posted by: jwest at August 14, 2013 06:21 AM (u2a4R)

489 Any indication which deity they were asking for help?

Put me down for $5 on Molech.

Posted by: Methos at August 14, 2013 06:21 AM (hO9ad)

490 I wouldn't give a nickel for a house subject to the tinpot tyrants of an HOA.

Posted by: zsasz at August 14, 2013 06:22 AM (MMC8r)

491 489 Any indication which deity they were asking for help?

Put me down for $5 on Molech.
=============
He doesn't need their prayers. They've given him plenty of sacrifices.

(Am I saying the Jackson family has had and has paid for abortions? I am.)

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 14, 2013 06:23 AM (VjL9S)

492 Ignoring responsibilities and giving everyone happy talk is what liberals do. Facing up to the realities of the situation is what conservatives do.

By stealing their money for the communal good. Got it.

Posted by: Methos at August 14, 2013 06:23 AM (hO9ad)

493 Any indication which deity they were asking for help? Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at August 14, 2013 10:18 AM (/kI1Q) Our Great Lord Obama, Keeper of the Mom Jeans, Savior of the Arugula and Overseer of Missed Free Throws.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 14, 2013 06:23 AM (osdNx)

494 485 YNot,

Until they finally filled the lot next to mine I was really excited at the prospect of paying off the houyse in ten years and dismantling it to goose the property values....

the nastygram oin not being able to get a Maple Family of tree to grow in Goddamned December was just about the last fucking straw.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 06:23 AM (A4hKL)

495 Anyway, the folks were down over the winter and the rest of them wanted to watch a movie. They settled on The Help. --- A friend of mine (who is a nice lady, but soft as a grape on some things) wanted to see it so I saw it. It was a very pretty film with some good acting in it, but by the end of the damned thing my rage-meter was at eleven. My friend, who has some dose of white guilt and never lived in the South, was affected by it the way they intended. Lots of hand-wringing etc. I told her a variant of what you said. It was a little embarrassing how upset I got because really it was a lovely film, cinematographically, but the take-home message was really offensive.

Posted by: Y-not at August 14, 2013 06:23 AM (5H6zj)

496 I think you meant VOILA! I thought that was a stringed instrument.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 06:24 AM (/PCJa)

497 Because being required to hold open-forum "town-hall" meetings is in the Constitution. Or something.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 14, 2013 10:10 AM (dcoFe)

And the proles smell, too, right? There ought to be a way to keep them away from Congressional offices so our betters aren't bothered by the garlic-breathed stink of the common folk.

Don't you have some kids you should be molesting with Hairy Reed?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 14, 2013 06:24 AM (zF6Iw)

498 So Jwest is a robber baron. That's...special.

Posted by: Lauren at August 14, 2013 06:25 AM (ELdpj)

499 492 Ignoring responsibilities and giving everyone happy talk is what
liberals do. Facing up to the realities of the situation is what
conservatives do.

By stealing their money for the communal good. Got it.

Posted by: Methos at August 14, 2013 10:23 AM (hO9ad)

Listening to that delusional jackass talking about facing up to realities is hilarious. Jwest lives in a fantasy world. Not surprising though when all you can see is Chuck Schumer's ass.

Posted by: Professor Farnsworth at August 14, 2013 06:25 AM (LI48c)

500 #489 There is a great scene in C. S. Lewis's "The Last Battle" where some Tarkinens find out, to their dismay, that their god Tash is a real entity, and not exactly benevolent.

That is what I always think about these people. They ignore God and talk up stuff liked by Satan and his assistant Moloch.

One of these days, they are going to discover that all of this stuff is REAL. Too late.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 06:25 AM (GoIUi)

501

I thought Morons always said that fluoride in drinking water was no big deal? Da jooooooos don't seem to think so.

http://bit.ly/16PBWn2

Posted by: RushBabe at August 14, 2013 06:25 AM (qkZxk)

502 492 Methos,

By Jove you've cracked the code...

to be a real conservative you have to be a fan of Karl Marx and Mags Sanger...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 06:26 AM (A4hKL)

503 Where is the Dump?

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2013 06:26 AM (GQ8sn)

504 Concerning Natural Born Citizens, all I can say is that Oliver Stone turned Tarantino's script into an unwatchable mess.

Posted by: Emily Litella at August 14, 2013 06:26 AM (Zswg6)

505 Voila
I thought that was a stringed instrument.

Boy, what a dummy. Everyone knows it's lady parts.

Posted by: Low Information Voter at August 14, 2013 06:26 AM (Dwehj)

506 The thing with Rich american folks in the limelight of hollywood. *** One of them recently did something pretty dang cool. Ashton Kutcher was accepting a Teen Choice award and made a speech about how he has never had a job that he was better than. He has done all sorts of menial labor and said that at all times, he was simply happy to have a job. It was a great little speech to a crowd that needs the lesson.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 06:27 AM (jjvz+)

507

"By stealing their money for the communal good. Got it."

Not everyone wants to live in a trailer with abandoned cars littering the yard. When people invest over a million dollars in a house, they want to be sure the joker next door doesn't build a shack.

Posted by: jwest at August 14, 2013 06:27 AM (u2a4R)

508 496 AllenG,

Viola which is like a Violin or Fiddle when it has had too much Bourbon...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 06:27 AM (A4hKL)

509 New to thread. Looks like all MSN mail is down, Hotmail, Live, Outlook, etc. Fucking great. I am paying for an MSN account and they can't keep it up.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 14, 2013 06:28 AM (wR+pz)

510 O_o

Posted by: Lauren at August 14, 2013 06:28 AM (ELdpj)

511 Ignoring responsibilities and giving everyone happy talk is what liberals do. Facing up to the realities of the situation is what conservatives do. By stealing their money for the communal good. Got it. Posted by: Methos at August 14, 2013 10:23 AM (hO9ad) Which is exactly and precisely what an HOA does. If the assessments and increase in fees were done in accordance with the regulations and bylaws, then it's not stealing. It's implementing what the people who live there are on notice can be done. It's the special assessments that destroy people and that's what many people forget about. People also forget that all it takes is having the majority needed to pass it and it's binding. I don't care if it's a 2/3rds requirement, get the votes and you are good to go. Generally, the only recourse is litigation to show that either the assessment was completely unnecessary, that the money is being used improperly or that the assessment is not being enforced evenly. Other than that? SOL baby.

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 06:28 AM (VtjlW)

512 When was the last REALLY good movie made?

Who was the last REALLY great star?

Pretty much everything is garbage now even as ticket prices rise.

Hollyweird is running on fumes.

Posted by: ontherocks at August 14, 2013 06:29 AM (/oUoX)

513 I lived in a planned community for most of my childhood, which I guess is sort of like an HOA. Lots of rules about changes to property etc. But there were a lot of good aspects to it, as well, so I dunno. It's a choice. Either live that way or don't. I can tell you now that I am anxious as hell that our next door neighbors, who are living in an overcrowded house with junk in their driveway and dry brush stacked up against our fence, are going to burn the neighborhood down someday. The idea that I might have to go to court after they burn my house down to get compensated is not very reassuring. So I wish we had some rules about how property was maintained. YMMV.

Posted by: Y-not at August 14, 2013 06:29 AM (5H6zj)

514 One of them recently did something pretty dang cool.

Ashton Kutcher was accepting a Teen Choice award and made a speech about how he has never had a job that he was better than. He has done all sorts of menial labor and said that at all times, he was simply happy to have a job.

It was a great little speech to a crowd that needs the lesson.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 14, 2013 10:27 AM (jjvz+)

Speaking of him. Have the Apple Fanboys started lining up for the Jobs movie yet? Or are they just going to arrive in trenchcoats so they can pull a PeeWee Herman while watching it?

Posted by: Professor Farnsworth at August 14, 2013 06:29 AM (LI48c)

515 jwest, SO, did you just hit everyone with a $10,000 bill without any warning? If so, you are lucky you weren't beaten up.

The PROPER way to do this is what happened on my sister's street: call a meeting, explain the problem, point out that it has to be done or people will get dmaage to their cars and the road will be impassible in bad weather.

Then you give people time to get the money ogether. You ask if there is a financial hardship and they need more time.

I would not be surprised to find out that you own the paving company as well.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 06:29 AM (GoIUi)

516 Voila Voila sounded too Frenchy foo-foo.

Posted by: Walla Walla Washington at August 14, 2013 06:29 AM (2J8B7)

517 Okay it is obvious that I have (by some means unknown and not at all understood) become a good-luck charm for weather. This summer (up until I left on vacation) had been bizarrely mild for DFW. When I left, a heat-wave with 100+ degree temps came through. I get back, and within a couple of days, it's raining with more chances for rain tomorrow and Friday. MI, OTOH, has apparently had a hotter than usual summer, and the weeks just before I got there had been in the 90s (which, to hear them tell it, is end-of-the-world weather). I got there, and it rained (lightly) about once a day, and the weather never got over about 85 degrees (and most days topped out below 80). Now the question is- how do I do what I'm doing, and how can I ensure that it continues?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 06:29 AM (/PCJa)

518 Because being required to hold open-forum "town-hall" meetings is in the Constitution. Or something.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 14, 2013 10:10 AM (dcoFe)

I always thought a real budget was required. And the fourth amendment. I've always been fond of that one. Too bad both parties seem to want it dead and gone.

Posted by: Invictus at August 14, 2013 06:29 AM (OQpzc)

519 505 Low Info Voter,

that would be a mangina....

plaintiff's exhibit one L. Graham R-McCain's Ass

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 06:30 AM (A4hKL)

520 When was the last REALLY good movie made?

Obviously someone hasn't watched The Canyons.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 14, 2013 06:30 AM (uYaYO)

521 Viola Huh. I thought that was a fancy word for "house."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 06:31 AM (/PCJa)

522 And in more OT news, my Kindle 2 is about to crap out so I bought a Kobo Glo for all my non Amazon books. It will be interesting too see how it compares to the Kindle.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 14, 2013 06:31 AM (osdNx)

523 Huh. I thought that was a fancy word for "house."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 10:31 AM (/PCJa)

It is Latin for Eureka!

Posted by: Invictus at August 14, 2013 06:32 AM (OQpzc)

524 they can't keep it up.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 14, 2013 10:28 AM (wR+pz)

Suggest Viagra....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 06:32 AM (gqgiP)

525 New to thread. Looks like all MSN mail is down, Hotmail, Live, Outlook, etc. Fucking great. I am paying for an MSN account and they can't keep it up. Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 14, 2013 10:28 AM (wR+pz) That would explain the screaming that just started from the office of the guy who rents office space from us. He lives and dies by email and just switched over to the Outlook service and yeah. I'm torn between sympathy and I told you so. Guess what's winning.

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 06:32 AM (VtjlW)

526 off futurama sock

Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2013 06:32 AM (LI48c)

527

" People also forget that all it takes is having the majority needed to pass it and it's binding. I don't care if it's a 2/3rds requirement, get the votes and you are good to go."

Special assessments in our HOA require a majority vote, but the 10K assessment I gave everyone was an executive directive that didn't require any vote.

The maintenance and replacement of the road was outlined in the original HOA charter.

Posted by: jwest at August 14, 2013 06:33 AM (u2a4R)

528 Fenelon - Leathers link no work..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 14, 2013 06:33 AM (aDwsi)

529 511 AlexTheChick,

Yup...pretty much have decided that the minute this HOA I am entwined with crosses that particular Rubicon I am abandoning the note as about 15% of their "renters" have...

the development would be better off being served by the city...I fucked up.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 06:33 AM (A4hKL)

530 Remember that scene in The Godfather when Sonny says to to Tom Hagen 'just help me win!'

that's what the modern GOP makes me think about- if they would only put aside their petty squabbling and self-indulgence and just help us win

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 14, 2013 06:33 AM (8sCoq)

531 And in more OT news, my Kindle 2 is about to crap out so I bought a Kobo Glo for all my non Amazon books. It will be interesting too see how it compares to the Kindle. I think my Kindle Fire (it's a 1st gen) is about to die. Grrr. Of course, maybe I can convince my wife to let me get a Windows Surface tablet... they're way cheaper than an iPad.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 06:33 AM (/PCJa)

532 Jackson sentencing update.......judge says JJ Jr testimony in Blago case wasn't extraordinary enough to be a factor in the sentence. Guidelines for JJ is 4 years, for Sandy is 18-24 months.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at August 14, 2013 06:34 AM (1M/xn)

533 Guess what's winning.

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 10:32 AM (VtjlW)

Are you cackling maniacally and poking him with a stick, or just wearing a smug grin?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 06:35 AM (gqgiP)

534 Crazy Video: Muslim Brotherhood Supporters Throw Armored Police Van Off A BridgeÂ… Weasel Zippers: Good stuff

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2013 06:35 AM (9Xc5j)

535 the development would be better off being served by the city...I fucked up.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 10:33 AM (A4hKL)

Wouldn't it be better to have an oil fire in the kitchen? And, what do you mean throwing water on an oil fire is a bad thing? Why didn't anyone tell me?

Posted by: Invictus at August 14, 2013 06:36 AM (OQpzc)

536 530 Jones in CO,

Yeah I get the feeling both sides oif the Democrat/RiNO team have decided conservatives need to be Sonny Corelone'd...so survey says "BONED!"

the proper response is to Luca Brasi the RINOs first.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 06:37 AM (A4hKL)

537 Anyway, the folks were down over the winter and the rest of them wanted to watch a movie. They settled on The Help.

My mother tried to make me read it. I suggested if she wanted to read about black-white relationships, she should read Baldilocks' book. I even left it with her. I don't think she's read it--it was the edition with the football player on the cover--because she prefers stories where the men are just backdrops for the women's journeys of self-discovery blah blah blah.

Baldilocks and Ace need to fix the store.
http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/1616232064

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 14, 2013 06:37 AM (/kI1Q)

538 Ben must have been constipated, but he's finally dumped.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 06:37 AM (/PCJa)

539 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 14, 2013 10:33 AM (/PCJa)

The new Kindle Fire will be released in a month or so. It should be nice, and not outrageously priced the way Apples are.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 06:37 AM (gqgiP)

540 @525 I've had an MSN account since it opened. All my shit is on @msn.com. I have started to move it to Gmail. Why am I paying MS for a email address? Now they throw in virus software that they even admit you don't need. Their own defender is free and better. I guess a lot of people are too lazy to move all their shit and keep paying for the old address. Caught in the lazy old man trap.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 14, 2013 06:38 AM (wR+pz)

541 535 Invictus,

Heh...

no reason to punish State Farm for my idiocy...

the "sven" counter argument to the JHWest "I embraced Marx o save capitalism" thesis....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 06:38 AM (A4hKL)

542 I can tell you now that I am anxious as hell that our next door neighbors, who are living in an overcrowded house with junk in their driveway and dry brush stacked up against our fence, are going to burn the neighborhood down someday. The idea that I might have to go to court after they burn my house down to get compensated is not very reassuring. So I wish we had some rules about how property was maintained. YMMV. Your city doesn't have codes? Doesn't have a nazi code enforcement officer? Doesn't need the fines monies?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2013 06:38 AM (p9JxP)

543

515 jwest, "did you just hit everyone with a $10,000 bill without any warning? If so, you are lucky you weren't beaten up."

I had a meeting, explained the situation, gave everyone detailed estimates and had a pre-planned payment program for those who didn't have the cash from a local bank with the HOA as the cosigner so that no financials were needed.

I'm a benevolent dictator. But I require absolute loyalty.

Posted by: jwest at August 14, 2013 06:39 AM (u2a4R)

544 Baldilocks and Ace need to fix the store.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at August 14, 2013 10:37 AM (/kI1Q)

#twoweeks

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 06:39 AM (gqgiP)

545 Of course, maybe I can convince my wife to let me get a Windows Surface tablet... they're way cheaper than an iPad. yeah, and even MS has admitted they suck. I'd go with a Samsung tablet at Costco. $350 or so for 10 inch screen.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 14, 2013 06:40 AM (wR+pz)

546 "According to the bylaws of our HOA charter, any cocksucker who is president can levy ruinous fines and special assessments on you at his whim. With your support, I will BE that cocksucker. Thank you."

Posted by: jeast at August 14, 2013 06:40 AM (S1SRn)

547 We should burn Windsor for that

Posted by: Fenian Bastard at August 14, 2013 07:15 AM (CMlD4)

Heh. We burned the White House in the War of 1812.

If you want us to do it again, it's going to cost you, big time.

Posted by: Canada at August 14, 2013 06:40 AM (60Q+L)

548 You guys want me to post Jackson sentencing updates here on on the new thread?

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at August 14, 2013 06:41 AM (1M/xn)

549 Then I made everyone paint their doors the same color, and put their trash cans in line on the left side of their driveways, with the lid handles pointing toward the street.

Posted by: jWEsT at August 14, 2013 06:41 AM (gqgiP)

550 When people invest over a million dollars in a house, they want to be sure the joker next door doesn't build a shack.

And your $10,000 a pop highway robbery is the last line of defense against anyone in the future from building a shack next to said million dollar home.

I suppose it does provide a disincentive to live there. Thanks for explaining.

ATC, I get that you're looking at the situation as a lawyer, but the moral truth of the matter is that if you simply take someone else's money when you can because you think you have a better use for it, you are a thief. It doesn't matter in the slightest what justifications you think you have.

Posted by: Methos at August 14, 2013 06:41 AM (hO9ad)

551 Now that I know firsthand from a Republican operative like Gabe that reps are using their skills at 3D chess to escape scrutiny from the people who feel the effects of their decisions, I feel so much better.

Posted by: Turkey O Tooley at August 14, 2013 07:29 AM (Zd5Sb)

I'm accused of being a Republican operative whenever I comment on a post on a lib or left-of-center site like the Daily Beast or the Washington Post's website. It's a ludicrous accusation by whomever makes it. For one thing, a 'Republican operative' implies the existence of a Republican Party that is actually aware of the Internet. It also implies that these operatives are getting paid for their work, which we know can't be true because the RNC has on its payroll an army of very expensive and very useless whiz-bang consultants, and can't afford anything or anyone so mundane as a co-blogger on a conservative website.

But hey, don't let me stop you from making such boneheaded accusations. Idiocy becomes you.

Posted by: troyriser at August 14, 2013 06:42 AM (V9ol4)

552 Are you cackling maniacally and poking him with a stick, or just wearing a smug grin? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2013 10:35 AM (gqgiP) I'm trying really really really hard not to giggle while trying to sound sympathetic, which I kinda sorta am. But only kinda. I've told him that doing everything by email is not optimal as computers are fantastic up to the second they are not. RE: Going to a non-kindle reader for non-kindle books. Calibre is a helluva thing. Just. Sayin'.

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 06:42 AM (VtjlW)

553 Viola

Some kind of Italian motor scooter, no?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 14, 2013 06:42 AM (aDwsi)

554 Heh. We burned the White House in the War of 1812.If you want us to do it again, it's going to cost you, big time.

Posted by: Canada at August 14, 2013 10:40 AM (60Q+L)

How much?

Posted by: Invictus at August 14, 2013 06:43 AM (OQpzc)

555 ATC, I get that you're looking at the situation as a lawyer, but the moral truth of the matter is that if you simply take someone else's money when you can because you think you have a better use for it, you are a thief. It doesn't matter in the slightest what justifications you think you have. Posted by: Methos at August 14, 2013 10:41 AM (hO9ad) If you move into a neighborhood with an HOA, then you have agreed that the HOA can do that. It's not theft. Now, it may be complete and utter and total bullshit dickwaddery in every way, but it's not theft.

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 06:44 AM (VtjlW)

556 Jackson sentencing update...guess I will post here. JJ Jr standing before the judge. Crying. Sorta taking the blame. Not faulting others. Wants to serve Sandy's sentence for her if she doesn't get probation.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at August 14, 2013 06:45 AM (1M/xn)

557 "Speaking of birthers, it occurs to me that one reason GOP Congressmen would avoid town halls is to avoid embarrassing viral videos where they get confronted by birthers. This has happened twice in the past two weeks." That's not a reason. It's an excuse.

Posted by: blindside at August 14, 2013 06:45 AM (x7g7t)

558 I'm a benevolent dictator. But I require absolute loyalty.

Posted by: jwest at August 14, 2013 10:39 AM (u2a4R)

Yeah that doesn't always work out so well.

Posted by: Mussolini at August 14, 2013 06:47 AM (hO9ad)

559 AtC, I love Calibre.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 14, 2013 06:48 AM (ELs9k)

560 Posted by: troyriser at August 14, 2013 10:42 AM (V9ol4)

Yeah. You should really call Gabe a wannabe Republican operative

Posted by: Methos at August 14, 2013 06:50 AM (hO9ad)

561 556 Jackson sentencing update...guess I will post here. JJ Jr standing before the judge. Crying. Sorta taking the blame. Not faulting others. Wants to serve Sandy's sentence for her if she doesn't get probation. Posted by: Buckeye Katie at August 14, 2013 10:45 AM (1M/xn) Pathetic. What was the point of the Sandy comment? He didn't lure her into this mess. She's as greedy as he is. And he is not going to serve her sentence so why ask? He's always crying unless he's partying with big boobed lobbyists. He should try manning up for a change.

Posted by: Malcom Tucker at August 14, 2013 06:50 AM (JBCFN)

562 Late August release up to Labor Day generally indicates shit, and shit so bad even the studio knows it and so they are just dumping it to get some money and be done with it. Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2013 10:05 AM (LI48c) Yeah, people want to see action and comedy and horror -- not a Hallmark made for television special.

Posted by: Malcom Tucker at August 14, 2013 06:53 AM (JBCFN)

563 Malcom....ha!

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at August 14, 2013 06:54 AM (1M/xn)

564 The question in my mind is why Jackson, Jr. got in trouble, when so many worse cases are ignored. Plus he is getting actual punishment, rather than a slap on the wrist.

What does he know or who did he piss off?

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 14, 2013 07:10 AM (GoIUi)

565 As someone who has worked on both sides of the HOA issue, it is my very very firm opinion that HOAs are the devil.

Posted by: alexthechick - Not my monkeys. Not my circus. at August 14, 2013 09:52 AM (VtjlW)

I am so glad that I live in a deep rural area, with no HOA, and in fact no town to deal with. I pay my taxes to the county, and the county pretty much leaves me alone. My next door neighbour is field of barley, and barley is an ingredient of beer. Life is good. I have three acres, a house and 3 outbuildings, and my taxes are $1600 annually.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 14, 2013 07:38 AM (60Q+L)

566 Then again, how would you like your next door neighbor to build as many storage facilities as can fill the backyard, and park broken down auto relics throughout the front driveway, blocking the sidewalk?

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 14, 2013 09:53 AM (MhA4j)

I'd be cool with that, as long as he didn't mind me scavenging the odd part.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 14, 2013 07:40 AM (60Q+L)

567 So let me see if I understand Gabe correctly. If constituents are demanding to see their reps because they fear that they may be squishes, and the reps fear their constituents because they know that they are squishes, then the reps are perfectly justified in dodging town hall meetings because they are to be respected or something?

Is that about the size of it?
J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2013 07:04 AM

THIS

You enablers giving these politicians a fucking out. Way to go.

"Oh, the crazy Birthers will show up, the horror!" Shove it up it, you commies, maybe if the "powers" that be in this country had given a ruling as to the meaning of the term of art, "natural born citizen", we wouldn't have the issue. And it is an issue. It will continue to be an issue even if a text book "perfect" indisputable American runs - one born in the US, to two US parents. Until this is legally defined it will always be an issue.

It was important back when the Constitution was written to include the restriction, and right now, in this day, it seems to be as important as it was back then. How many of you even know who suggested the term and why?

It was expressly to prevent foreigners from the administrative office and from the Command in chief of the American army. I believe we are more in danger of that in this age than even they were back then.

It is a discussion we should have - as a reasoned people, without insults and character assassination. Grown ass Americans can't discuss what a fricken phrase meant in the 1700s without childish name calling?

Posted by: Andre at August 14, 2013 07:44 AM (i0yTO)

568 564 Miss Marple,

This really is a case of "sins of the father"...$uper Je$$e II got in the Federales' sight right after $uper Je$$e I threatened to castrate Ogabe...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2013 07:55 AM (A4hKL)

569

I think Gabe (in his discussion of Obamacare) just managed to rather perfectly capture the lax, smug, obviously clueless mindset of "smart" Beltway folks, which is one factor that has brought us all to this point. It's this sub-mediocrity, with pernicious consequences, that has made me unable to even return to that place for years, after most of a life there. And the "right" is full of effectively clueless (note every word) "smart" people like Gabe, and they feature prominently in the commentariat.

Posted by: non-purist at August 14, 2013 08:13 AM (afQnV)

570

Playing the game Gabe's way, and concentrating purely on tactics, has lost us two presidential elections and failed to win us the Congress. The voters are hungry for an ideological GOP, and that's what's missing from this debate-- however the tactics play out.

Senator Lee is able to articulate an ideology. Gabe's champions, the faceless GOP "establishment" (presumably Boehner, McConnell and the rest), cannot. They have no discernable ideology.

Insofar as they are concerned I can't understand why anyone pays any attention at all to their advice. Gabe, you and your leaders are merely advocating one big rear-guard action, leading nowhere but to the next election. Am I missing something?

Posted by: MTF at August 14, 2013 08:33 AM (B5y+v)

571 Jackson sentencing updates now moved to dump thread.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at August 14, 2013 08:41 AM (1M/xn)

572 President Obama and Atty General Holder should contact the DHS to ensure that this Cruz guy from Texas is legally here and if he is eleigible to run for President of The United States. Anything else would throw our whole Constitutional System into the Toilet Bowl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: LaQuisha Largess' at August 14, 2013 09:18 AM (HlUFk)

573 But I don't see why their representatives would agree to that. Posted by Gabriel Malor at 06:53 AM Comments I just had to come by super-late and point out how bone-shatteringly ironic that statement is. Why the fuck would a representative agree to listen to those they purportedly represent? That's just totes unreasonable.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 14, 2013 11:40 AM (qyfb5)

574 DELAY commits the GOP leadership to the implementation of Obamacare. Either they go forward stating they were for repeal before they were against it, or, they stop talking about halting Obamacare. It commits the GOP as a whole to the lie that the House of Representatives, by itself, is a worthless trophy, and nothing can be done without control of the Senate too. On every other issue too. Either, as Norquist suggests, DELAY become a sine qua non of a CR, or, it's a side issue. If it's a side issue, it dies. It dies because Harry Reid is willing to bury things, lawfully or unlawfully, legally or illegally. Harry Reid will not bring any of those things to a vote, and then, go on stage and say he will not let them come to a vote. He is not up for re-election until 2016. He is content to be an executioner; his state is content for him to be an executioner; his party is content for him to be an executioner. You cannot shame the President for not signing DELAY when Harry Reid stopped DELAY from getting to the Oval Office. You cannot shame individual Democrats for supporting Harry Reid because no one Democrat could stop him. They can all say so when challenged. If you think you can explain the benefits of DELAY, you could explain the benefits of DEFUND. If you think the Senate couldn't help voting for DELAY, they have less leverage refusing to vote on DEFUND, because DEFUND would involve the continuing resolution. If you think DELAY gives people benefits, those same benefits arise under DEFUND. DEFUND must cause some DELAY. If you think DELAY helps Republicans establish their opposition to Obamacare, DEFUND opposes every responsibility for implementation without collusion. DEFUND does have obvious negatives. It didn't come from the party hierarchy. It's not bipartisan. It requires a knowledgeable discussion of the purpose of the GOP, the various powers of the separate branches, and the folly of Obamacare. It requires a shared mission among Republicans. It requires elected politicians to ignore weekly polls 14 months before the election. It will draw attention to the Republicans in Washington. It commits the party to a policy stance for years. It will suck all the oxygen out of the Sunday talk shows for a month. It requires the GOP Senate to take a back seat. All those things are dealbreakers for a large part of the GOP. But if you don't want arguments about "principles" - which given our different desired outcomes, amounts to a plea for amoral government -- tactically, if you're going to piss off the base on amnesty, the Tea Party on the debt limit, the socons on LGBTQ celebration, the religious right on regulation of charities, the hawks on the Taliban and the constitutionalists on oversight of the IRS and Justice Dept. -- TACTICALLY, you might want to throw a bone.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at August 14, 2013 02:15 PM (TbVAj)

575 Stupid is smart, weak is strong, bitchy is reasonable. Forward.

Posted by: vorak the dull at August 14, 2013 02:25 PM (OsCtd)

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