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August 05, 2013

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— Gabriel Malor

Happy Monday. Today is National Underwear Day, so wear some.

ISYN, obnoxious congressional troll Rep. Peter King (R-NY) is exploring a presidential bid. In January, he threatened to quit the GOP if his fellow congressmen held up Sandy relief for the purpose of excising the portions sending money to things like, say, fisheries in Alaska instead of areas actually hurt by Sandy. He was also one of the few GOP congressmen to join the President's push for gun control.

In related news, Rick Santorum, Ted Cruz, and Donald Trump are heading to Iowa this weekend. So is Claire McCaskill.

I'm not sure that we covered last week's Guardian scoop on NSA's XKeyscore capabilities here at the HQ. We might have, but I don't recall and after the Guardian's asspull on PRISM I think we're all learning to take its "scoops" with a large grain of salt. The XKeyscore claims are now falling apart, just like the PRISM ones did. There's more at Volokh Conspiracy.

GOP governors are not enthusiastic about a government shutdown. The shutdown threat, btw, as well as more general discussion about Obamacare defunding, was a big part of our most recent podcast (iTunes or MP3 link).

In celebration of the selection of the 12th Doctor, Jon Gabriel found some pretty amazing Doctor Who trivia.

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1 DAY 272 1,189 to go (1,262 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 02:51 AM (+98Gb)

2 Good Morning Morons. Today is Monday, August 05, 2013. On this day in 1735 New York Weekly Journal writer John Peter Zenger was acquitted of seditious libel against the royal governor of New York, on the basis that what he had published was true. This set a new precedent under The Common Law in the colonies.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

3 Corrupt Obamanites continue to wag the dog.

http://tinyurl.com/l4lm79k

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:52 AM (lZvxr)

4 What could go wrong with this picture? Haven't we imported enough non-native species into this country with disastrous results? Of course to the EPA this is a better solution than evil pesticides like DDT, which has never been proven to be harmful. Remember the giant spider that we had a pic of while back that had caught a bird in its web and it had killed to be eaten? How about we import a whole host of those and turn them loose in the EPA offices nationwide. Maybe then they will see the light.

http://tinyurl.com/m5rru8h

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

5 RIP to great defensive lineman and NFL raconteur, Art Donovan. 1925-2013

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 02:53 AM (+98Gb)

6 The next Saint Trayvon is in the Bronx. 14 year old Shaaliver Douse was shot and killed by NYC police after he was ordered to drop his gun and he pointed it at police. He had been firing shots at a fleeing man. He was already charged with attempted murder and was still walking the streets. Why is that Bloomingidiot? Oh I know, he had not been drinking a Big Gulp and eating salty foods. We can now start a countdown until the race baiting assholes like Sharpshit hit the streets.

http://tinyurl.com/nh4maq2

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

7 Yet another train derailment. This one in LA. Must be that Global Warming again. Among other things this one is leaking concentrated NaOH, which is some nasty shit. I have had to handle this shit before and it will eat holes through your clothes and blister the shit out of your skin. And pray you do not get it in your eyes are ingest any of it. They have evacuated 100 homes in the area.

http://tinyurl.com/lhzhow7

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

8 FBI agents hoping to investigate and take down criminal organizations allowed their informants to break the law more than 5,000 times in a single year, according to newly-released documents.

Our government police in action.

http://tinyurl.com/mesysay

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:53 AM (lZvxr)

9 House leadership says a budget sellout is possible.

http://tinyurl.com/lv2wuyj

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

10 The "alleged" driver in the Venice Beach boardwalk event has been arrested and charged with murder. Many other charges are likely forthcoming. No motive yet listed.

http://tinyurl.com/lpkgu7h

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

11 It's not always safe to go watch building demolition. Especially ones with a LOT of large metal structures like an old power plant. But you can't tell idiots that. I'm sure the lawyers will be involved here shortly, if they aren't already in the hospital waiting room.

http://tinyurl.com/lpkgu7h

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

12 Britain's largest bank tells the Vatican to find another bank, they no longer want their business.

http://tinyurl.com/o4t863u

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:55 AM (lZvxr)

13 To brighten a gloomy Monday with depressing news -
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/sexy-cosplay-09.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 02:55 AM (0WdQr)

14 Someone in that bankrupt third world shithole known as Detroit is burning women.

http://tinyurl.com/kxl7fy8

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:55 AM (lZvxr)

15 Apple skated out on the patent infringement shit thanks to an executive order, but now they are going to find out what true regulatory Hell is. The corrupt DOJ, led by arch criminal Holder, wants to supervise their iTunes store. This is an outgrowth of the e-book price fixing case. I still have not seen the price of new e-books from major publishers come down by any measurable amount.

http://tinyurl.com/k9hcrro

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:55 AM (lZvxr)

16 When will all of this "gay" shit end? I am getting utterly sick of it. And I will wait to see if DC Comics sues the shit out of this Italian asshole.

http://tinyurl.com/ogsvzd6

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:55 AM (lZvxr)

17 Peter King is marginally less repulsive than Krispy Kreme. Sure, he's tough on the Islamo-nazis but considering his roots as an IRA apologist (a group that was very tight with the PLO and the Red Brigades), he's a creep. And the Long Island GOP is right up there with their Dem counterparts when it comes to corruption and cronyism.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 02:56 AM (+98Gb)

18 NJ man charged with DUI after driving for 15 miles with no front tires and tree branches hanging from truck. OK CBD, where were you when this was going down?

http://tinyurl.com/nbhwynt

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:56 AM (lZvxr)

19 Gaga and Madonna facing charges in Russia who says they violated their visas by holding a concert. On the surface this appears to be ludicrous because why in the Hell do they think they came to Russia in the first place? But lo and behold, the gay shit pops up again.

http://tinyurl.com/mejh3gd

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:56 AM (lZvxr)

20 Morning everyone. Thanks again Gabe for your daily duty, and to Vic for bringing the news, good and bad.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 05, 2013 02:56 AM (sQ0LB)

21 Yet another outrage by a cop. This one pepper sprayed a pizza unknown to the person stopped for a traffic violation. 5 people became sick from eating it. Amazingly the cop was charged only with a misdemeanor. IIANM this is a MAJOR federal felony. Of course since it is a blue State there will be no prosecution from the criminal Holder.

http://tinyurl.com/oh7ud49

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:56 AM (lZvxr)

22 See what the Morons make of this. This article is poorly written and the headline makes no sense.

On CNNÂ’s Â“Reliable SourcesÂ” on Sunday, the publisher of Talkers magazine and a prominent progressive TV and radio host refuted the idea that Media Matters for AmericaÂ’s campaign against Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity caused Cumulus to consider dropping the two talk stars.

It appears that the libtards are denying that cumulus is bowing to liberal pressure to drop Rush.

http://tinyurl.com/k3mql84

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:57 AM (lZvxr)

23 I think the DC misses the boat on this one about Shitforbrain's stumping for another economic plan to keep job outsourcing down.

1. Obama is campaigning again with lies. He means nothing with this other than mouth-work.

2. If he truly wanted to reduce outsourcing he would cease all the myriads of new regulations and actually start rolling them back. And these are more than just Obamacare which has been the biggest hold up to recover. That and Dodd-Frank, and the EPA.

3. This is more left handed distraction from all the scandal and felonies.

http://tinyurl.com/mdogtfh

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:57 AM (lZvxr)

24 CA forced to release 10,000 criminals to the streets, many of them violent criminals. This is insane. Perhaps they need to reopen Alcatraz and start using it, as is.

http://tinyurl.com/lfoypwz

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:57 AM (lZvxr)

25 Well that's a cheery Monday for you!

Posted by: moki at August 05, 2013 02:57 AM (EvHC8)

26 Typical moonbat liberal thinking:

Rep. Keith Ellison: WeÂ’re Not Broke, The Government Just DoesnÂ’t Have Your MoneyÂ…Yet

http://tinyurl.com/lnzmd9u

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:57 AM (lZvxr)

27 TX man shoots two robbers who had kidnapped him and his wife.

http://tinyurl.com/nh7xnmc

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:58 AM (lZvxr)

28 More amazingly stupid foreign policy shit from the idiots in the Obamana crime syndicate. They see "opportunity" with the new president of Iran.

http://tinyurl.com/m8ye7nt

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:58 AM (lZvxr)

29 12 Britain's largest bank tells the Vatican to find another bank, they no longer want their business. http://tinyurl.com/o4t863u Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 06:55 AM (lZvxr) I guess the Vatican is not sharia-compliant... YET.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 02:58 AM (+98Gb)

30 Couple arrested in Columbia, SC for having sex in the yard of a home at mid-morning. It was the yard of a house that didn't belong to either one. No indication in the article if drugs or alcohol were involved.

http://tinyurl.com/msxyaoj

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:58 AM (lZvxr)

31 KY has their "Bourbon Trail", SC tourism wants to waste money trying to implement a "BBQ Trail". Sometimes I really get disgusted with the shit these people dream up.

http://tinyurl.com/mt9ufdz

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:59 AM (lZvxr)

32 Newt says he is a Neocon but says, although he supported Iraq and Afghanistan, he is rethinking nation building. Hey Newt, just because we invade to kill and defeat the armies and leadership of these terrorist supporting third world shitholes doesn't mean we have to engage in nation building. Colin Power is full of shit with his stupid "broke it" statement.

http://tinyurl.com/mlbdt53

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:59 AM (lZvxr)

33 Art Donovan

Art attended Mount Saint Michael Academy in the Bronx. He received a scholarship to the University of Notre Dame in 1942 but left after one semester to join the United States Marine Corps, where he spent four years during World War II. He was stationed in the Pacific Theatre and took part in some of the conflict's fiercest engagements, such as the Battle of Luzon and the Battle of Iwo Jima. His earned citations, which included the Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal and the Philippine Liberation Medal, and would later earn him a place in the U.S. Marine Corps Sports Hall of Fame The first pro football player so honored.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 05, 2013 02:59 AM (8sCoq)

34 CO has a new election law that positively invites election fraud. Standby for permanent Democrat majorities there as people go from one county to the next voting.

http://tinyurl.com/n8hv28f

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:59 AM (lZvxr)

35 Morning!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 05, 2013 03:00 AM (UTq/I)

36 WaEx examines the myth that Obamacare can't be defunded. They give essentially the same argument I gave last week, except they said the CRS and Obamacare supporters are full of shit.

http://tinyurl.com/kuxtsr2

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:00 AM (lZvxr)

37 Keith Ellison in congress is the equivalent of having German-American Bund leader Fritz Kuhn be our Secretary of War 1941. Then again, FDR had Harry Hopkins who was a commie.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:00 AM (+98Gb)

38 Indiana joins the trend of States withdrawing from the liberal Common Core agenda for schools.

http://tinyurl.com/ptqko39

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:00 AM (lZvxr)

39 Kindle Daily Deals

http://tinyurl.com/ovyex6s

That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:00 AM (lZvxr)

40 Damn, Vic, I was worried you were going to ragestroke before 0700 with all those headlines.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 05, 2013 03:02 AM (sQ0LB)

41 32 Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 06:59 AM (lZvxr) Totally agree, Vic. We should have just flattened the Afghani rubble into powder and taken the tops off the mountains in Tora Bora and be gone. The only time "nation building" works is when the nation in question was civilized to begin with.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:03 AM (+98Gb)

42 I was going to say King was an IRA apologist, he's also anti Castro, but he didn't play that part up. He seems to hang with Stay Puff. who's an apologist for Hamas, and the GZ Mosque,

Posted by: john smallberry at August 05, 2013 03:03 AM (Jsiw/)

43 Wonder how truly truthful this map will turn out to be? Washington Post interactive map of homicides in DC.
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/investigative/homicides/?tid=rr_mod

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 03:04 AM (0WdQr)

44 Peter King is a true RINO, bordering on DIABLO. ACU rating of 60 last year and 75 lifetime.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:06 AM (lZvxr)

45 The Common Core agenda, which will institutionalize anti-Americanism in the curricula is a joke. My brother, now retired, saw the mathematics syllabus and the NYC schools are now going to try and ram pre-calc and calc down the throats of kids who are marginally smarter than Rachel Jenteal. This from the same Board of Ed that socially promoted kids instead of holding them back if they failed. Naturally because we can't destroy the little darlings' self-esteem nor cast aspersions on the ability of tenured teachers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:06 AM (+98Gb)

46 In related news, Rick Santorum, Ted Cruz, and Donald Trump are heading to Iowa this weekend. So is Claire McCaskill.

So the race is on to kiss blue State caucus ass. When is the RNC going to get rid of this shitty schedule?

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:07 AM (lZvxr)

47 And I'm done--1 of 4 consecutive overnights, schedule is front loaded this month. Probably going silent until the ONT.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 05, 2013 03:07 AM (sQ0LB)

48 And thanks DHS for this. Tian the Green Paint Lady comes to the US on a tourist Visa. Becomes a homeless person in DC and overstays. Then proceeds to splatter green paint.

But Federal immigration people, citing privacy, will not tell when she came to the US or through which port of entry.

http://tinyurl.com/ksrsr42

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 03:08 AM (0WdQr)

49 I trust that NYT article on Republican governors about as much as I trust Obama.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:09 AM (lZvxr)

50 Academia, thanks to fiends and monsters like Bill Ayers, have succeeded in lobotomizing our children. As intended since the ignorant will need government to feed, house and clothe them. Evil.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:09 AM (+98Gb)

I give you your 45th President of the United States - Claire "Dim Bulb" McCaskill.

After all, she wasn't really on the national radar screen in 2012 (which gives her a leg up on Hiliary Clinton), and she will beat Santorum.

Posted by: steveegg at August 05, 2013 03:10 AM (o44nj)

52 Rick Santorum - NO. Just no. I think you're a nice, decent guy and your heart's in the right place but you are a hideous candidate. NO. Please step aside and be graceful in political obscurity.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:10 AM (+98Gb)

53 9 House leadership says a budget sellout is possible. http://tinyurl.com/lv2wuyj Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 06:54 AM (lZvxr) ============================== Between this and the story planted last week on immigration report passing this fall, it's pretty clear the GOP leadership feels comfortable in office. Why else would they start announcing their betrayals in advance?

Posted by: MTF at August 05, 2013 03:10 AM (bR2AR)

54 If South Carolina is spending tourism bucks to tout that mustardy barbecue y'all serve there, it won't bring me down! Gimme KC or Texas style any day..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 05, 2013 03:12 AM (UTq/I)

55 54 If South Carolina is spending tourism bucks to tout that mustardy barbecue y'all serve there, it won't bring me down! Gimme KC or Texas style any day.. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 05, 2013 07:12 AM (UTq/I) Flame war! Literally.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:13 AM (+98Gb)

56 52 NO. Please step aside and be graceful in political obscurity. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 07:10 AM (+98Gb) ============================ Plus One.

Posted by: MTF at August 05, 2013 03:13 AM (bR2AR)

57 40 Damn, Vic, I was worried you were going to ragestroke before 0700 with all those headlines.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 05, 2013 07:02 AM (sQ0LB)

Some of this shit makes me want to rage stroke. It would be a brown day for me today except I have a dental checkup tomorrow at 8 am and I'm sure the dental lady doesn't want me breathing bourbon on her.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:14 AM (lZvxr)

58 PRISM claims falling apart = admitted as mostly true.

Posted by: Boone at August 05, 2013 03:15 AM (B43nB)

59 I be willing to bet the Obama Administration is shitting its underwear about now because apparently the rumors were not true; al-Qaeda is not dead and our intelligence agencies are incompetent.

Posted by: Fritz at August 05, 2013 03:15 AM (K7xnX)

60 They love Peter King on Fox News.. seems like he's on there over other day.

They had him on ABC's This Week on Sunday morning defending Obama's closing of the embassies.

BTW.. how many embassies got attacked?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 05, 2013 03:16 AM (UTq/I)

61 Santorum, has his weak points, but he wasn't a National Health care flak like Mittens actual, ot Newt, potentially, better then Stay Puff or Jeb, last seen unapologetic for the fraud of a Common core flacking Educrat.

Posted by: john smallberry at August 05, 2013 03:17 AM (Jsiw/)

62 Not all SC BBQ is mustard base, vinegar base is actually more popular.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:18 AM (lZvxr)

63 Chi-Town those people in the midlands only eat that mustardy stuff because they can't duplicate the real BBQ perfected in the Pee Dee river area.

Posted by: tmitsss at August 05, 2013 03:18 AM (Pa9vP)

64 Flame war! Literally. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 07:13 AM (+98Gb) I love the Carolinas, I live here. But whatever taste bud challenged idiot decided that a bitter, watery vinniger based something, God only knows what, could improve pork. Once you paint that sorry crap on that poor pig, he gave his life for no apparent reason.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 03:18 AM (XIxXP)

65 NO. Please step aside and be graceful in political obscurity.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 07:10 AM

Santorum is trying again? Who's next? TPaw?

Shit, Poppin' Fresh will be sportin' wood this morning.

Meanwhile, Choom Boy is still presidentin'. There may not be a USA in '16 for the Republicans to run.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 05, 2013 03:19 AM (kaGpp)

66 Damn, Vic, I was worried you were going to ragestroke before 0700 with all those headlines.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 05, 2013 07:02 AM (sQ0LB)

========

The rest of us will ragestroke by 07:30.

Seriously though, I don't know how he does it- thanks for the news Vic!

Posted by: Nighthawk at August 05, 2013 03:20 AM (OtQXp)

67 The best BBQ sauce there is comes from a place in Florence, SC (Pee Dee area) called CHS. It is vinegar based.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:20 AM (lZvxr)

68 Santorum is trying again? Who's next? TPaw? Shit, Poppin' Fresh will be sportin' wood this morning. LOL

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 03:20 AM (XIxXP)

69 If you hate the taste of pork hide it with lots of mustard

Posted by: tmitsss at August 05, 2013 03:21 AM (Pa9vP)

70 64 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 07:18 AM (XIxXP)

Get some of that CHS sauce and try it. Probably have to go to an IGA store to find it.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:21 AM (lZvxr)

71 BBQ of any base beats, tofu, sushi, rice cakes, and rabbit food.

Posted by: Case at August 05, 2013 03:21 AM (wf3Kt)

72 Coleman's Hot Sauce

Posted by: tmitsss at August 05, 2013 03:22 AM (Pa9vP)

73 The best BBQ sauce there is comes from a place in Florence, SC (Pee Dee area) called CHS. It is vinegar based. Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 07:20 AM (lZvxr) Good mornin vic. I guess if you were not raised with it, It doesn't work for you.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 03:22 AM (XIxXP)

74 ~~Case~~

Never diss the sushi or sashimi. Ever.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 03:22 AM (0WdQr)

75 yeah.. looking at the GOP list of possibilities makes me nauseous.. we are so boned.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 05, 2013 03:22 AM (UTq/I)

76 @74 Anna Puma- Call them as I see 'em.

Posted by: Case at August 05, 2013 03:24 AM (wf3Kt)

77 The best BBQ sauce there is comes from a place in Florence, SC (Pee Dee area) called CHS. It is vinegar based. Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 07:20 AM (lZvxr) What about Dr. Carson?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 03:24 AM (XIxXP)

78 I'm not sure I can handle another campaign season of Santorum and his rigor mortis grimace.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 05, 2013 03:24 AM (gaOtJ)

79 67 The best BBQ sauce there is comes from a place in Florence, SC (Pee Dee area) called CHS. It is vinegar based. Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 07:20 AM (lZvxr) 'The best' is subjective.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 05, 2013 03:24 AM (X6akg)

80 73 Good mornin vic. I guess if you were not raised with it, It doesn't work for you.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 07:22 AM (XIxXP)

This stuff is definitely not watery or bitter. Neither is it sweet. Its hot.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:25 AM (lZvxr)

81 Morning all. I sure hope Bud Selig grows a pair before noon and suspends A-Rod for life and ASAP under his " For the good of baseball" powers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 03:25 AM (9Xc5j)

82 The best BBQ sauce there is comes from a place in Florence, SC (Pee Dee area) called CHS. It is vinegar based. Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 07:20 AM (lZvxr) What about Dr. Carson? Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 07:24 AM (XIxXP) OOOPS, meant to respond to 75.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 03:25 AM (XIxXP)

83 What about Dr. Carson?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 07:24 AM (XIxXP)

have never tried it and don't know what it is. I also like BBQ sauce from The Salt Lick in TX but here I was referring to SC BBQ sauce.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:26 AM (lZvxr)

84 75 yeah.. looking at the GOP list of possibilities makes me nauseous.. we are so boned. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 05, 2013 07:22 AM (UTq/I) And now, your morning emetic: McCasskill-Ellison '16 Warren-Ellison '16

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:26 AM (+98Gb)

85 Sorry. Going commando today.

Posted by: Buddha at August 05, 2013 03:26 AM (8NlUk)

86 Before we start worrying about 2016, lets try and win 2014. Eye on the ball. If the political landscape can be skewed more conservative with the 2014 elections, then the Presidential wanna-bes with R next to their name have to tack that way or be left adrift in a Sargasso Sea of 'who cares.'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 03:26 AM (0WdQr)

87 Bullseye works for me, or make yer own.

Posted by: Dennnis at August 05, 2013 03:27 AM (GQxT/)

88 If you ever get a chance, try Sweet Baby Ray's original BBQ sauce... good stuff if you like a sweeter tangy sauce. It's a perfect example of what they serve in the rib joints on the south side of Chicago.

I use that or KC Masterpiece when I use sauce. But for ribs, I use a dry rub and only sauce them a little at the very end.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 05, 2013 03:27 AM (UTq/I)

89 Best BBQ I have ever had was from a place called Speed Queen in Milwaukee.. It used to be a laundry mat and they never changed the signs. The neighborhood was so dangerous we kept a couple black people at work on standby so they would go for us.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 03:27 AM (XIxXP)

90 There may be 1,262 days to Inauguration Day 2017, but it doesn't matter. Us choom smokers have won.

Posted by: Barack at August 05, 2013 03:28 AM (8NlUk)

91 I wouldn't worry about the scrunt from MO. Hillary has been anointed already. Yesterday The Hill was gushing over her. Today WaPo was, but I didn't have the stomach to read gushing lies two days in a row.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:28 AM (lZvxr)

92 88 If you ever get a chance, try Sweet Baby Ray's original BBQ sauce... good stuff if you like a sweeter tangy sauce. It's a perfect example of what they serve in the rib joints on the south side of Chicago. I use that or KC Masterpiece when I use sauce. But for ribs, I use a dry rub and only sauce them a little at the very end. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 05, 2013 07:27 AM (UTq/I) I love Sweet Baby Ray's. Add some beer to it, let it simmer, slap it on....yum.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 05, 2013 03:29 AM (X6akg)

93 89 89 Best BBQ I have ever had was from a place called Speed Queen in Milwaukee.. It used to be a laundry mat and they never changed the signs. The neighborhood was so dangerous we kept a couple black people at work on standby so they would go for us. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 07:27 AM (XIxXP) Like Calumet Fisheries in Chicago. Wait, you did what???? ;-)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:29 AM (+98Gb)

94 The rest of us will ragestroke by 07:30. Seriously though, I don't know how he does it- thanks for the news Vic!

It was already ragestroke time for me when I saw nitwit Ellison's photo on the ONT. The picture of David Frumpy made things worse.

I am thinking what we need right now are two more amendments to the Constitution.

The first would solidify all existing immigration laws, and make it an impeachable (and jail-worthy) offense for any government official to fail to enforce said laws;

The second would severely limit presidential power in the area of executive orders, and remove the president's ability to pass out any foreign aid totaling more than $1 million in goods or money.

I know neither amendment would fly in Congress, but I think there'd be enough public pressure to make states ratify them.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 05, 2013 03:29 AM (kaGpp)

95 J.J. - Wo-Hop.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 03:29 AM (0WdQr)

96 Over at RedState, Ericsson has a story of an encounter with an NRSC staffer he had. I believe him, both to content and as to tone. I could quite easily see some minor paid politico adopting a tone of condescension and superiority over the citizenry, thinking feudal dues of allegiance and deference were owed to members of the political class by the commoners. As to the national GOP as an organization, the one thing I am absolutely convinced they have a passion to do is to maintain internal control and denigrate anybody not on board or not wanting to cede any oversight control/not write a blank check for. An absolute passion. You are good at what you have a passion for. Other things, not necessarily so.

Posted by: T. at August 05, 2013 03:30 AM (50gkB)

97 95 J.J. - Wo-Hop. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 07:29 AM (0WdQr) That does it. Will have to go there for lunch!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:30 AM (+98Gb)

98 I have tried Sweet Baby Ray's. I have some in the refer now (probably expired). It is sweet BBQ sauce as the name implies. I occasionally want some sweet BBQ but not often.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:31 AM (lZvxr)

99 Probably will not see this lady at Wo-Hop bringing your order.
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/sexy-cosplay-47.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 03:32 AM (0WdQr)

100 Heard on the news this morning that Rev Wright is coming to Detroit today for some baptist convention. Wonderful.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 05, 2013 03:32 AM (l1iXB)

101 The NRSC may wish to realize that a requirement to being treated like one has unique political genius that should be deferred to is to show something remotely resembling such, and not just demanding it as a right..

Posted by: T. at August 05, 2013 03:33 AM (50gkB)

102 Was there really a rib joint near the Dearborn Street Station called Adam's Ribs or is that apocryphal. I remember an episode of "MASH" where they got someone's wife to ship them an order all the way to Korea.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:33 AM (+98Gb)

103 I have kind of gotten away from BBQ and went more toward Marinades and rubs. Mcormick makes a good selection.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 03:33 AM (XIxXP)

104 99 Probably will not see this lady at Wo-Hop bringing your order. http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/sexy-cosplay-47.jpg Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 07:32 AM (0WdQr) I hope not. Hey, ever hear about Lucky Chang's?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:34 AM (+98Gb)

105 I grew up with Texas-style BBQ but North Carolina converted me. My sauce recipe is cider vinegar, some ketchup, salt and pepper, some red pepper flakes, and a bit of Frank's hot sauce.

Posted by: @johntant at August 05, 2013 03:35 AM (c2Ipc)

106 The NRSC may wish to realize that a requirement to being treated like one has unique political genius that should be deferred to is to show something remotely resembling such, and not just demanding it as a right..

Posted by: T. at August 05, 2013 07:33 AM (50gkB)

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THIS! If they ran unopposed those idiots would find a way to lose.

Posted by: Nighthawk at August 05, 2013 03:36 AM (OtQXp)

107 I have tried Sweet Baby Ray's. I have some in the refer now (probably expired). It is sweet BBQ sauce as the name implies. I occasionally want some sweet BBQ but not often.
Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 07:31 AM

Best BBQ I've ever had came from a place called "Dreamland" near Vance, AL. According to the Germans who took me there -- part of a visit to the Mercedes-Benz plant, Vance is right next to Tuzzgahlooza.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 05, 2013 03:36 AM (kaGpp)

108 Anyone ever eat at a Hickory River Smokehouse?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 03:39 AM (9Xc5j)

109 Lucky Chang's? Name is not registering at all. Wo-Hop stands out for its unique decor and very good food.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 03:39 AM (0WdQr)

110 I love Sweet Baby Ray's. Add some beer to it, let it simmer, slap it on....yum. Posted by: Tami
...........
That's what I do for a mop sauce... a little sauce, some beer, some dry rub and sometimes a little oil and vinegar..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 05, 2013 03:40 AM (UTq/I)

111 Today's celebrity birthdays: Reginald Owen (rooftop gunnery) John Huston (overrated director) David Brian ("Even historians fail to learn from history...they repeat the same mistakes. Let the killing end, Kirk.") Neil Armstrong (mensch) John Saxon (fought at Bruce's side) Loni Anderson (played Mansfield) Samantha Sang (http://youtu.be/IEMGp-xkUEE) Maureen McCormick (Marcia Marcia Marcia) Greg Feith (tin kicker) Tawny Kitaen (bonnets) Rachel Scott (Columbine victim)

Posted by: Gran at August 05, 2013 03:40 AM (mw0FO)

112 109 Lucky Chang's? Name is not registering at all. Wo-Hop stands out for its unique decor and very good food. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 07:39 AM (0WdQr) Great dim sum served by Asian transvestites.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:42 AM (+98Gb)

113 Like LBJ I like some free swinging room down where the underwear would normally go. http://bit.ly/13ePWme Thanks to Maggie's Farm for the fantastic recording, and sorry for the Rachel Maddow part (though I don't mind an honest crazy person so much as the dishonest bastards, like say, certain members of the United States Senate).

Posted by: MTF at August 05, 2013 03:43 AM (AP6/F)

114 In general, the attitude of the non-elected Field Marshals of the national GOP has been quite clear for some time--they will ride out this tide, and then eventually the 2000s can be repeated again, with them managing the people and not the people managing them. They don't want to be *your* party, they just wish to appear to be so. Better to knife them in the back before they knife you.

Posted by: T. at August 05, 2013 03:43 AM (50gkB)

115 You sushi eaters beware of escolar. They may say its tuna, but its not. And it can cause bad side effects. Several countries have outlawed it. (Not the U.S.) Anyway, there was a report on some news program about it. It was kinda funny but in a very bad way.

Posted by: Case at August 05, 2013 03:44 AM (wf3Kt)

116 What do the Morons think about the cop in CA who secretly sprayed pepper spry on the kid's pizza and caused 5 people to get sick.

Didn't the Feds make that a major felony after the Excedrin tampering thingy? (even though that is blatantly unconstitutional)

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:45 AM (lZvxr)

117 J.J. I think I would have remembered that. o.O;;

So Mallamutt you now the proud leader of Black Biotch Caucus?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 03:45 AM (0WdQr)

118 In a pinch I made some BBQ Mop Sauce out of French Dressing, Ketchup, Apple Cider and Yellow Mustard for a HUGE church BBQ People said it was the best they'd ever eaten

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at August 05, 2013 03:46 AM (VWfCN)

119 You sushi eaters beware of escolar. They may say its tuna, but its not. And it can cause bad side effects. Several countries have outlawed it. (Not the U.S.) Anyway, there was a report on some news program about it. It was kinda funny but in a very bad way.

Posted by: Case at August 05, 2013 07:44 AM (wf3Kt)
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In California they call it "sushi". Back home we called it "bait".

Posted by: Nighthawk at August 05, 2013 03:47 AM (OtQXp)

120 117 What do the Morons think about the cop in CA who secretly sprayed pepper spry on the kid's pizza and caused 5 people to get sick. Didn't the Feds make that a major felony after the Excedrin tampering thingy? (even though that is blatantly unconstitutional) Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 07:45 AM (lZvxr) I need more info. If the kids who got sprayed were little Trayvons, I could care less. Anyway, how was the cop caught? Maybe these little darlings were, how shall we say, "lying?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:48 AM (+98Gb)

121 In a pinch I made some BBQ Mop Sauce out of French Dressing, Ketchup, Apple Cider and Yellow Mustard for a HUGE church BBQ People said it was the best they'd ever eaten Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at August 05, 2013 07:46 AM (VWfCN) A holy Roller BBQ Sauce? G-D I bet it was good

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 03:48 AM (9Xc5j)

122 When is the RNC going to get rid of this shitty schedule? Consider this your weekly reminder that the Establishment RNC gets yelled at when it is perceived to be forcing state parties around. And, of course, by design it doesn't have the authority to end the IA caucus. Even levying sanctions on IA would require a full vote of the committee, i.e., the state party chairs.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 05, 2013 03:49 AM (4R02F)

123 116 Posted by: Case at August 05, 2013 07:44 AM (wf3Kt) Isn't escolar school in Spanish? Or a green veggie?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:49 AM (+98Gb)

124 Never mind, I finally found it

Federal Anti-Tampering Act

U.S.C. TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

PART I - CRIMES

CHAPTER 65 - MALICIOUS MISCHIEF

Ã‚Â§ 1365. Tampering with consumer products

(a) Whoever, with reckless disregard for the risk that another person will be placed in danger of death or bodily injury and under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to such risk, tampers with any consumer product that affects interstate or foreign commerce, or the labeling of, or container for, any such product, or attempts to do so, shall -

    (1) in the case of an attempt, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both;
    (2) if death of an individual results, be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both;
    (3) if serious bodily injury to any individual results, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both; and
    (4) in any other case, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

I can't believe they only charged this guy with a misdemeanor.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:49 AM (lZvxr)

125 barrel

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:49 AM (lZvxr)

126 Italians!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:50 AM (+98Gb)

127 Case what I more worry about is what I first encountered on Oahu. Sushi in pre-packaged trays at the Quik-Stop.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 03:50 AM (0WdQr)

128 Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 05, 2013 07:49 AM (4R02F) Clean he barrel when you get there.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 05, 2013 03:50 AM (X6akg)

129 Yeah its a Monday, a cob-logger in the barrel.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 03:50 AM (0WdQr)

130 128 Case what I more worry about is what I first encountered on Oahu. Sushi in pre-packaged trays at the Quik-Stop. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 07:50 AM (0WdQr) I like day-old sushi. Cheaper.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:50 AM (+98Gb)

131 Pepper spray might be good for BBQ. Or day-old sushi.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:51 AM (+98Gb)

132 123 Consider this your weekly reminder that the Establishment RNC gets yelled at when it is perceived to be forcing state parties around. And, of course, by design it doesn't have the authority to end the IA caucus. Even levying sanctions on IA would require a full vote of the committee, i.e., the state party chairs.

osted by: Gabriel Malor at August 05, 2013 07:49 AM (4R02F)

The Primary schedule is set by the national meeting with RNC leadership. Then some States like FL routinely violate it. If they keep this schedule this is MY weekly reminder that they can kiss my ass and they can do without my votes in the future as I will bow out and say to hell with it and let it burn.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:51 AM (lZvxr)

133 So is Claire McCaskill. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ... ... ... OK, deep breath. I mean it is Monday. ... ... ... BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 05, 2013 03:52 AM (659DL)

134 As far as the police, pepper spray on pizza, etc.: A real problem we have with the police now is it appears more and more are joining up mainly to have manhoods validated and to be "big men", rather than the somewhat similiar self-esteem that comes from the actual achievement of the ideal of "to protect and serve". The first think he is a man because he can boss people around niw, that they must respect him; the second because he actually is a man and needs no validation. The service defines him, but he also defines the service.

Posted by: T. at August 05, 2013 03:52 AM (50gkB)

135

AAAAAAANNNNNDDD They're OFF!

AUGUST 5, 2013: At least 6 die in bomb blast in South Philippines during rush hour along a main road in Cotabato city. 29 others were wounded. More information to follow as received.

Those d*mn militant Mennonites again!

Posted by: Nighthawk at August 05, 2013 03:53 AM (OtQXp)

136 121 I need more info. If the kids who got sprayed were little Trayvons, I could care less. Anyway, how was the cop caught? Maybe these little darlings were, how shall we say, "lying?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 07:48 AM (+98Gb)

He didn't spray the kids, he sprayed a pizza in the back seat of one kid causing him and 4 others to get sick.

That is a violation of the Food Tampering Act

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:53 AM (lZvxr)

137 I seem to recall a big brouhaha at the convention last year with rule changes that were aimed to perpetually keep the RINO's in power. Fuck them. Third party or not, just fuck the GOP.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:53 AM (+98Gb)

138 Posted by: Nighthawk at August 05, 2013 07:53 AM (OtQXp) Impressive post ya got there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 03:53 AM (9Xc5j)

139 Sushi in pre-packaged trays at the Quik-Stop.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+ SmuD) at August 05, 2013 07:50 AM

Trader Joe's carries -- or carried; haven't shopped there for a while -- packaged sushi, complete with a little dab of wasabi and a package of soy sauce.

Loved that stuff. Also two-buck Chuck.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 05, 2013 03:53 AM (kaGpp)

140 Barrel is a gettin crowded.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 03:53 AM (XIxXP)

141 SH*T

Stalks off to barrel.

Posted by: Nighthawk at August 05, 2013 03:54 AM (OtQXp)

142 My 135 In my mind, if a police force has black uniforms and patrol cars, they are too interested in being "bad-asses" and are in it for self-esteem, and will be destructive of the liberty of the responsible members of the community gy trying to jake everyone into a potential perp.

Posted by: T. at August 05, 2013 03:54 AM (50gkB)

143 Trader Joe's carries -- or carried; haven't shopped there for a while -- packaged sushi, complete with a little dab of wasabi and a package of soy sauce. Loved that stuff. Also two-buck Chuck. Posted by: MrScribbler at August 05, 2013 07:53 AM (kaGpp) The Harris Teeter has good sushi.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 03:55 AM (XIxXP)

144 Another in the barrel with Gabe.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 03:55 AM (lZvxr)

145 In my mind, if a police force has black uniforms and patrol cars, they are too interested in being "bad-asses" and are in it for self-esteem, and will be destructive of the liberty of the responsible members of the community gy trying to jake everyone into a potential perp. Posted by: T. at August 05, 2013 07:54 AM (50gkB) So what should they wear? Paisly vests and white GoGo boots?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 03:56 AM (XIxXP)

146

@120. "Back home we call it bait."-Nighthawk

Yeah, that's what we call it.

Dreamland BBQ is some of the best I ever had. And I grew up in Texas where BBQ is an art. I think Dreamland has more locations than just Tuscaloosa, anyway its the real deal.

Posted by: Case at August 05, 2013 03:56 AM (wf3Kt)

147 143 Posted by: T. at August 05, 2013 07:54 AM (50gkB) Most of the cops I see these days in NYC are either scrawny chicks or short, fat meatballs. They do not exactly exude masculinity, power or respect. Although they are armed, so there is that. Ugh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 03:56 AM (+98Gb)

148 Yes, let's find ways to dismiss the claims. Whew, of course the NSA isn't doing that stuff...

I mean, identical carefully worded denials on the part of tech companies couldn't possibly be 'the least untruthful answer', could it?

Regarding Prism and the other stuff, people should remember that closing your eyes doesn't make the other person go away.

Posted by: RiverC at August 05, 2013 03:57 AM (KTytI)

149 The Dodge Charger is perhaps the worst idea for a patrol car ever. We by and large do *not* need to make the cops think they are members of Mad Max's MFP. These things matter.

Posted by: T. at August 05, 2013 03:57 AM (50gkB)

150 #146

Blue maybe, so you know they are not military units?

Posted by: RiverC at August 05, 2013 03:57 AM (KTytI)

151 Hey, Elle Macpherson married a billionair. I guess Madonna was right, "Only boys that save their pennies make my rainy day"

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 03:58 AM (XIxXP)

152 146 Blue, jackass.

Posted by: T. at August 05, 2013 03:58 AM (50gkB)

153 Posted by: Nighthawk at August 05, 2013 07:53 AM (OtQXp) Say hi to Gabe..... Anyone know how many the barrel holds?

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 05, 2013 03:58 AM (X6akg)

154 Anyone who puts sauce on ribs should be beaten with a tire iron.

Posted by: Dick Nixons Rib at August 05, 2013 03:58 AM (VrVBw)

155 The pained hemmorohodial expressions of Rick Santorum. The cheesy insincerity of Chris Christie. The looming specter of his old man's crazy sitting on Rand Paul's left shoulder. I can't wait for the first debate moderated by Rachel Maddow.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 05, 2013 03:58 AM (659DL)

156 A holy Roller BBQ Sauce? G-D I bet it was good Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 07:48 AM This church had a monster annex with two Navy Surplus South Bend Ranges. Eight Burner with two 24X36 griddles each and double ovens. A 16ft wall of cooking space. I chef-ed a Pancake Supper there and raised several thousand dollars. Bacon in the ovens and pancakes by the dozen off the ranges. All that McDonald's Grill experience put to use.

Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at August 05, 2013 03:59 AM (VWfCN)

157 Although they are armed, so there is that. Innocent bystanders beware.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 05, 2013 04:00 AM (659DL)

158 I think I shall stop posting before I manage to get tossed into the barrel. The odds are not looking good for staying out....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 04:00 AM (0WdQr)

159 WZ has a story just up that there are specific Islamist terrorist threats against San Francisco. Clearly the muzz still can't figure out who their allies are.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 05, 2013 04:00 AM (OevbG)

160 On the NSA thing, let's me start by Emily Litrellaing my prior response.   Never mind.   Of course, that's assuming that the take down of the Guardian piece is itself accurate.   If not, then I Litrella my Litrella.

Here's what I see as the fundamental difference in how people are approaching this. One side of the argument reads such pieces and says "hey just because they can do it and can possibly abuse it, doesn't mean they are, I want proof they are."   The other side, which is the side I am on, reads such pieces and says "Hey. I've met human beings and if anyone can do it and if anyone can abuse it, they will and I will presume that such abuses occurred until you prove to me they haven't."    This is a fundamental divide and explains (some of) the vitriol.   Those on side A think those on side B are being paranoid freaks and those on side B think those on side A are being spectacularly naive.    Good luck bridging that gap.

I will say that reading the breezy see for example the FBI doesn't just storm in and shoot people wily nily so this is the same thing is rather unconvincing given the litany of various Federal agency raids where either dogicide occurred, someone was shot or, if no one was shot, it was through a miracle.   Again, selection bias at work because we don't hear about the properly conducted raids, only the botched ones. That's not even counting the times that armed agents show up for such dangerous events as, say, FDA inspections.   Given that history, reading such a reference makes me doubt how seriously the author of the piece takes the concern over if such abuses can occur, then they will occur.

And all that tl;dr comes down to this.   This is about trust.   I do not trust the various agencies to abide by Constitutional limits voluntarily, I do not trust the oversight committees to do their jobs and I do not trust any information that is being presented by government officials and agencies about what they are or are not doing with domestic data.   Which is not to say that I trust Snowden and Greenwald, either.   Don't leap to that conclusion.   The best point of that article is that we don't know what we're discussing.   Given the security issues at play, I don't see how we can which means we're all screaming at each other in the dark.

I don't see why anyone, on any side of the aisle, should simply trust that a government that has the technical capability to do wholesale domestic spying will not do it. Given that, I have no concept of how to balance the absolute need for surveillance with the countervailing absolute need to protect Constitutional limits. I don't know if there's any way that you can without there being seriously negative repercussions.

Thus, I pray for SMOD.

Appropriate reference if anyone made it this far: http://some.ly/MEaBXq

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at August 05, 2013 04:00 AM (Gk3SS)

161 153 146 Blue, jackass. Posted by: T. at August 05, 2013 07:58 AM (50gkB) Just checking. :-)

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 04:00 AM (XIxXP)

162 Is DC having another earthquake?

Posted by: Nighthawk at August 05, 2013 04:00 AM (OtQXp)

163 162 Just responding.

Posted by: T. at August 05, 2013 04:01 AM (50gkB)

164 Mornin' all. Got my concealed carry license in the mail over the weekend! woo!

Posted by: Mainah at August 05, 2013 04:01 AM (659DL)

165 Is DC having another earthquake? Posted by: Nighthawk at August 05, 2013 08:00 AM (OtQXp) Please!!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 04:01 AM (XIxXP)

166 We by and large do *not* need to make the cops think they are members of Mad Max's MFP. DHS can make them feel like they're manning the Fulda Gap with those idiotic armored personnel carriers they peddle.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 05, 2013 04:01 AM (659DL)

167 @167: a lot of local police have APCs now. They really attract the chix when you're out SWATting conservative bloggers.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 05, 2013 04:04 AM (OevbG)

168 Well DC is founded in the filled in crater of a meteor strike so its possible.

Today on TCM is Heston all day. Tonight being Major Dundee and Ben-Hur.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 04:05 AM (0WdQr)

169 Elmer's BBQ, Tulsa...It be bad...you don't need no teef to eat our beef. That is their advertising. Billy Sims BBQ...former OU/NFL great. He has a chain of BBQ joints...very good. Oklahoma Joe's, won a lot of championships. Mac's BBQ. ..Used to get this when we lived on the lake. Also won a lot. Delicious. Knotty Pine was legendary. It burnt to the ground. ..they are trying to re-open, but their staff all got snapped up by other BBQ joints after the fire. Slick's in Muskogee. People would drive for hours for his food. He died. Last I heard, his son was trying to get a place going.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 05, 2013 04:07 AM (jS9Ak)

170 Escolar-a species of fish---some people call it a butterfish, but thats wrong. And some people get it mixed-up with tuna. You need to be careful, you don't want to eat it. Just ask the guy who had it for lunch then took a slow moving elevator back to his 12th floor office. Around the third floor it hit him. And he couldn't do anything about it.

Posted by: Case at August 05, 2013 04:07 AM (wf3Kt)

171 Well DC is founded in the filled in crater of a meteor strike so its possible.

[...]

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 08:05 AM (0WdQr)
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So SMOD has already been there?

That would explain a lot actually...

Posted by: Nighthawk at August 05, 2013 04:08 AM (OtQXp)

172 Disappointed that there doesn't yet seem to be a part 2 up yet on Diana West's
book American Betrayal over at Breitbart.

Read Pt 1 yesterday, with the promise of the next today.

The story, based on intelligence revelations, confirms a lot of long held suspicions about FDR and the Soviet connection.

.....my weekend so I have the time now.....

Posted by: ontherocks at August 05, 2013 04:08 AM (c6Szn)

173 Alex, A couple of weeks ago, I boiled the whole sorry chain of events that led us to this surveillance pass to a) we're here because eleven guys overstayed their visas (YEA AMNESTY!), b) we don't fight wars, we fight limited engagements becasue wars are bad or something, and c) technology is now not our friend in a variety of ways. Combine those things with a political class that is circling the wagons to protect itself from the now inevtibale economic storm and we arrive at a very dark place where one does not even have to be conspiratorially minded to get the shakes. And yes, the lefties should be seeing this, too--but rascism and abortion!

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 05, 2013 04:09 AM (659DL)

174 Ugh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 05, 2013 07:56 AM

Toody and Muldoon, FTW!!11!!

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 05, 2013 04:10 AM (kaGpp)

175 Embassy security and closedowns all the rage. Breathless reporting by all the preznits press minions. No other news interests them. No one asking why Queen Rock Star of Canklehood didn't close Benghazi, probably the least secure of any, on the anniversary of 911. But she's awsome, you know. Al Qada would be crazy to fire a shot at one of the compounds, anywhere, because preznit droner is itchin to press the red button and prove his manhood. He's also awesome, you know, and dyin to make hisself some positive news. Hey, maybe they can wag the dog.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 05, 2013 04:10 AM (PH+2B)

176 The Chesapeake Bay is an impact crater. If you look at the geology of DC there is evidence of fractured rock, changes of geological composition, and other signs of an impact.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 04:12 AM (0WdQr)

177

165Mornin' all. Got my concealed carry license in the mail over the weekend! woo!

Posted by: Mainah at August 05, 2013 08:01 AM (659DL)

Congratulations! Now it's time for you to follow the ritual of carrying concealed into a Wal-Mart and having an order of nachos.

I do that every time my CHP is renewed.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 05, 2013 04:12 AM (tVWQB)

178 Indian consolate in Jalalabad attacked yesterday/Saturday. Nine dead, mostly kids.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 04:12 AM (ZshNr)

179 A couple of weeks ago, I boiled the whole sorry chain of events that led us to this surveillance pass to a) we're here because eleven guys overstayed their visas (YEA AMNESTY!), b) we don't fight wars, we fight limited engagements becasue wars are bad or something, and c) technology is now not our friend in a variety of ways.

Combine those things with a political class that is circling the wagons to protect itself from the now inevtibale economic storm and we arrive at a very dark place where one does not even have to be conspiratorially minded to get the shakes. And yes, the lefties should be seeing this, too--but rascism and abortion! Posted by: Circa

and We have to listen to everyone - because profiling is EvilRacistIsraeli (tm).

Posted by: Jean at August 05, 2013 04:14 AM (CMlD4)

180 Consulate.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 04:14 AM (ZshNr)

181 King? And this fat tick? Quote of the Day I "The bottom line is we're not broke, there's plenty of money, it's just the government doesn't have it," "The government has a right, the government and the people of the United States have a right to run the programs of the United States. Health, welfare, housing - all these things." -- Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) Tumbrels Guillotines Mobs of outraged, offal-throwing peasants ( AKA the guys who pay their bills.... ) Some ass'y re'quired....

Posted by: backhoe at August 05, 2013 04:14 AM (ULH4o)

182 because preznit droner is itchin to press the red button and prove his manhood. He's also awesome, you know, and dyin to make hisself some positive news.
Hey, maybe they can wag the dog.
Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 05, 2013 08:10 AM

I think Choom Boy is too much of a coward to push the red button, no matter what the provocation might be.

His style is more to send money and military hardware to his fellow Muzzie terrorists, so THEY can push the red button.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 05, 2013 04:15 AM (kaGpp)

183 That HSBC action is a warning. Several international banks have dropped US customers rather than put up with our draconian regulations and fines. If HSBC did it I wouldn't be able to wire funds to or from a number of international accounts.

Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at August 05, 2013 04:18 AM (epxV4)

184 If I see Elison walking the street in DC - I am going throw my pocket change at his feet.

Posted by: Jean at August 05, 2013 04:18 AM (CMlD4)

185 "The government has a right, the government and the people of the United States have a right to run the programs of the United States. Health, welfare, housing - all these things." -- Rep. Keith Ellison (SUPERGENIUS-MN) The Constitution was, from its very origin, contemplated to be the frame of a national government, of special and enumerated powers, and not of general and unlimited powers. Â—Justice Joseph Story (1833)

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 05, 2013 04:19 AM (659DL)

186 Doom thread is up

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 05, 2013 04:19 AM (tVWQB)

187 Congratulations! Now it's time for you to follow the ritual of carrying concealed into a Wal-Mart and having an order of nachos. I do that every time my CHP is renewed. Posted by: @JohnTant at August 05, 2013 08:12 AM (tVWQB) Ha! There's one a few miles from my house.

Posted by: Mainah at August 05, 2013 04:20 AM (659DL)

188 carrying concealed into a Wal-Mart

That is the one place out here in the sticks that I feel the need to carry.

Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at August 05, 2013 04:22 AM (epxV4)

189 Shaaliver Douse No apostrophes? No umlauts?

Posted by: zsasz at August 05, 2013 04:23 AM (MMC8r)

190 149 Yes, let's find ways to dismiss the claims. Whew, of course the NSA isn't doing that stuff...

I mean, identical carefully worded denials on the part of tech companies couldn't possibly be 'the least untruthful answer', could it?

Regarding Prism and the other stuff, people should remember that closing your eyes doesn't make the other person go away.
Posted by: RiverC

There is little point in ruminating about it, its all in the "Wilderness of Mirrors". We've taken a major perception hit that will take decades, if ever, to recover from.

Posted by: Jean at August 05, 2013 04:23 AM (CMlD4)

191 Final word on the cops--the more they desire to look like tankers in the Hermann Goering division, the more I'll just assume they desire to be tankers in the Hermann Goering division.

Posted by: T. at August 05, 2013 04:27 AM (50gkB)

192 500 words about filthy Filner, not one of them is 'democrat'. http://tinyurl.com/kh7lbws

Posted by: McDirty at August 05, 2013 04:29 AM (Wr/pD)

193 This is gonna sound weird... I am fucking STARVING, right now. I don't know what this is. Usually, I can pay for at most $6 for a fast food meal when I am out in the field and that does me for an entire day. Not lately. I have been home and making breakfast and lunch the past few days AND using up all the Egg Noodles w/ Van De Kamp's fish fillets, combined w/ Ranch Dressing and Siracha. (don't judge, it was tasty!) I'm not going to get another paycheck 'till Wednesday so I am eyeing some of my Dad's Jimmy Dean Sausage as a scramble with some packaged Mac'N'Cheese. I don't think I have felt this HONGRY since I was 17! Next paycheck is gonna have to all go to the car. Check after that is going to try to make rent (and probably FAIL!) I don't know what to do as far as feeding me and Dad.

Posted by: Deety at August 05, 2013 04:32 AM (UaCt0)

194 Vic, the demolition link goes to the boardwalk hit and run article. Good morning, revolutionaries. I see we didn't get attacked yesterday. Did we?

Posted by: Mindful Webworker at August 05, 2013 04:52 AM (bDqG/)

195 Tx kidnapper spots perps: _______ Officers who responded to a 911 call found both suspects lying on the ground near the truck suffering from gunshot wounds. They were taken to different hospitals, where one of them was pronounced dead. The other suspect remained hospitalized in critical condition Friday. ________ Reading that makes me smile much more than I probably should.

Posted by: Mindful Webworker at August 05, 2013 04:57 AM (bDqG/)

196 Shoots not spots. Sheesh!

Posted by: Mindful Webworker at August 05, 2013 04:58 AM (bDqG/)

197 Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans --- WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A secretive U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration unit is funneling information from intelligence intercepts, wiretaps, informants and a massive database of telephone records to authorities across the nation to help them launch criminal investigations of Americans.

Although these cases rarely involve national security issues, documents reviewed by Reuters show that law enforcement agents have been directed to conceal how such investigations truly begin - not only from defense lawyers but also sometimes from prosecutors and judges. ---- http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-u

Posted by: Baldy at August 05, 2013 05:02 AM (tyDFN)

198 I'm not going to get another paycheck 'till Wednesday so I am eyeing some of my Dad's Jimmy Dean Sausage INnnnteresting.

Posted by: Dr. Sigmund Freud at August 05, 2013 05:05 AM (MMC8r)

199 Fix for #11 Building Demo link

http://tinyurl.com/knxdffz

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 05:06 AM (lZvxr)

200 Now, I am totally confused!
XKeystroke is not effective. The news scoops from the Guardian are not actually scoops, everyone new about this stuff.
The greatest amount of "Chatter" even more than preceded 09/2011-as collected by the NSA- failed to predict attacks on the Embassies.

Why is the Governement hunting Snowden? What Scecrets has Snowden released to enemies?

Why does the Government spend so much money to collect and store my metadata? They could stop metadata collection, and reduce my taxes by 10%

Posted by: Steven Tyler at August 05, 2013 06:21 AM (Zjqxs)

201 What was the story about HSBC?

Posted by: Chinaacid at August 05, 2013 08:00 AM (dbA9t)

202 Oh, and about BBQ. Dreamland is one of the best. Especially the original location on the edge of Tuscaloosa. That place was awesome. Only serves ribs, white bread and beer or coca cola. Maybe potato chips. It was on a hill on the edge of the city in a rough part of town. Had to kick chickens out of the way as you walked up to the swinging screen door. There was only a few tables in there and a bar. You couldn't get near that place on a Saturday home game for the Tide. Now they have new locations in b'ham and Mobile.

Posted by: Chinaacid at August 05, 2013 08:08 AM (dbA9t)

203 Damn this thread still going??

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 08:25 AM (lZvxr)

204 It used to be a laundry mat and they never changed the signs. The neighborhood was so dangerous we kept a couple black people at work on standby so they would go for us. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 05, 2013 07:27 AM (XIxXP) Oh,yah. I can just see how that conversation went: "So everyone want's BBQ, right? OK, let's break out the black folks...."

Posted by: Bill H at August 05, 2013 09:25 AM (3sZO1)

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