August 07, 2013

Top Headline Comments 8-7-13
— Gabriel Malor

Happy Wednesday.

About the Benghazi scandal . . . PowerLine has a congressional source that says the sources talking about CIA weapons transfers to Syria or a secret detention facility are untrue. The source also seems to dispute CNN's scoop that the CIA is trying to hush up Benghazi survivors.

RNC Chair Reince Priebus had more to say about standing up to CNN and NBC over the Hillary biodocs and getting better GOP primary debates: "I think it’s just about time our party stands up and protects the party and our candidates from networks that are not in the business of promoting our party – they’re not in the business of promoting our candidates, they’re not in the business of doing anything but promoting the Democratic party." He wants fewer debates and better-formatted debates, which, btw, were two of the conclusions of the 2012 autopsy. Consider this the opening salvo in that battle.

Heritage with the reminder: DOD is only 20 percent of federal spending, but is getting socked with 40 percent of the sequester cuts. This is still bad policy.

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1 Morning daywalkers.  Unleash the Vic!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 07, 2013 02:51 AM (sQ0LB)

2 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Wednesday, August 07, 2013.  On this day in 1998 Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya were bombed killing 244 and injuring thousands.   Terrorists know when to bomb our embassies.  Check who was President then.


And no news today because thanks to large dose of brown yesterday I slept in.   Most sleep I have had in a long time. 


Which means I need moar brown

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 02:54 AM (lZvxr)

3 Morning all.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2013 02:54 AM (XCfYI)

4 Gabe, I don't think anyone is defending the sequester as good policy, per se.  Just as the only way we were able to even scratch Leviathan.  If it helps enough people realize the beast can be cut without spelling doom for everyone, despite Obama's claims, then it will be one of the best things to happen in DC in years.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 07, 2013 02:54 AM (sQ0LB)

5 DAY 274 1,187 to go (1,260 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 02:54 AM (+98Gb)

6 onward brave Reince! Marshall your troops to certain victory in this critical venture!

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 07, 2013 02:55 AM (uhAkr)

7 Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 07, 2013 06:51 AM (sQ0LB)


Sorry, come by and have some brown, much better than bad news.

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 02:55 AM (lZvxr)

8 I'm almost afraid to ask what brown is.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 07, 2013 02:55 AM (sQ0LB)

9 Stay away from the brown heroin Vic!

Posted by: Zombie John Holms at August 07, 2013 02:55 AM (Aif/5)

10 Vic, if I ever find myself in your neck of SC, first drink is on me.  After that, though, I'll gladly drink yours.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 07, 2013 02:56 AM (sQ0LB)

11 8 I'm almost afraid to ask what brown is. Nectar of the Gods.

Posted by: real joe at August 07, 2013 02:57 AM (5wsCu)

12 Which album turns 44 today?


http://youtu.be/-kjfeXv4Zmg

Posted by: logprof at August 07, 2013 02:57 AM (3VBXw)

13 2 Which means I need moar brown Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 06:54 AM (lZvxr) Hopefully not Brown 25, from Uranus Corp. Morning, Vic!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 02:57 AM (+98Gb)

14

"I think it’s just about time our party stands up and protects the party and our candidates from networks that are not in the business of promoting our party – they’re not in the business of promoting our candidates, they’re not in the business of doing anything but promoting the Democratic party."

 

Talk's cheap, Preibus.  Tell the alphabets to really fuck off - which means actual, independent moderators - then I'll believe you.  Until then, I'll consider you're just huffing and puffing before your inevitable fold.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 02:58 AM (zF6Iw)

15 On the sequester BS between spending on socialism and defense, this time I agree with Gabe.


True that defense can stand some cuts if they cut in the right places.  But they always cut the meat and leave the fat and grissle.


Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 02:58 AM (lZvxr)

16 12 Posted by: logprof at August 07, 2013 06:57 AM (3VBXw) Wow. I think Led Zeppelin's first album is about the same age. We are getting old...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 02:58 AM (+98Gb)

17 And no news today because thanks to large dose of brown yesterday I slept in. Most sleep I have had in a long time.


Which means I need moar brown

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 06:54 AM (lZvxr)


Oooooo, pwease tellw me moah!!

Posted by: Barney Frank at August 07, 2013 02:59 AM (3VBXw)

18 Good Morning Horde! Hey Vic; I have to meet with the Navy recruiter today because the youngest girl is going to enlist in the Nuclear Field. She is a year out of HS with about 20 hours of general BS like history, English etc.. but in HS she did AP calculus, physics and chemistry, so I'm pretty sure she has the background to build on. If you have any gouge or advice, I would be grateful if you would pass it on. I'm leaving for work but I will check back in later. Thanks!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 07, 2013 02:59 AM (lbBsF)

19 If Rancid Pubis really wanted to do something, he'd boycott the networks for the general election debates as well.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 02:59 AM (+98Gb)

20 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable traitor

Posted by: Low information vota! now with extra votes at August 07, 2013 02:59 AM (Zswg6)

21

Morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes.  Whatever time zone youÂ’re in, have a cup of coffee, tea or an adult beverage and spend a moment with me, will you?  Except you, Vic – just rest those weary bones for a while.

 

 

By 1948, Hollywood found itself in trouble.  It wasnÂ’t just that the war – which provided the studios with audiences hungry for escape – was over; there were also the twin body blows of the government and progress.  “Government,” in this case, was an antitrust decision that forcibly parted the studios from their theaters.  Now there was no longer an assured market for MGM, Universal or Fox product, and one by one the lavish movie palaces of the ‘20s and ‘30s closed.

 

 

“Progress” was television.  Introduced in a small way in 1948, by 1950 over 7.5 million sets were sold in the United States.  The moguls insisted that TV was a passing fad, but knew they had to compete somehow.  So began the decade of gimmicks – 3D, Smell-O-Vision, CinemaScope, Cinerama, Todd-AO and VistaVision, all designed to give the television audience experiences and spectacles their tiny little black-and-white boxes couldnÂ’t provide.

 

 

But “television” was always a dirty word in Hollywood. 

 

 

For instance, no Warner Brothers film showed a television set in a house; even to mention the word could bring down the wrath of Jack Warner.  When songwriters Sammy Fain and Paul Webster (Calamity Jane, The Incredible Mr. Limpet) were working on an assignment, they asked scriptwriter Mel Shavelson (Beau James, Yours, Mine and Ours* to give a listen to one of their tunes.  TheyÂ’d barely begun to play when Shavelson interrupted: “ItÂ’ll never be in the picture.”  “What do you mean?” the songwriters asked.  “That was only the first eight bars!”  Shavelson repeated, “ItÂ’ll never be in the picture.”  Fain and Webster each reached for their wallets and bet that it would. 

 

 

The next day, after the two had played the song for Jack Warner, they ran into Shavelson and paid off the bet.  “How did you know?” they asked.  Shavelson told them it was obvious – the first line of the chorus was “IÂ’m in love with the girl from Channel Nine.”

 

 

Hope you all have a wonderful day.

 

 

*In addition to writing the script, Shavelson also directed Yours, Mine and Ours, the plot of which has widow Lucille Ball and widower Henry Fonda try to raise eighteen children together.  When Ball later asked Shavelson how he had enjoyed directing her, he replied, “Lucy, this is the first time I ever made a film with nineteen children.”

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 02:59 AM (zF6Iw)

22 Posted by: logprof at August 07, 2013 06:57 AM (3VBXw)


Arrrrggg you made me click on that and I am drinking decaf!

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 03:00 AM (lZvxr)

23 What is gouge?  Is that a Corps thing, I've not heard it used in this context before?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 07, 2013 03:00 AM (sQ0LB)

24 Hey Vic, good morning. Crotchety old Jarhead was looking for you last evening. Seems his daughter is being offered the Navy Nuke Program. I gave her the big thumbs up if it's something he thinks she would enjoy and if she's a math geek.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:00 AM (XIxXP)

25 Wow. I think Led Zeppelin's first album is about the same age. We are getting old...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 06:58 AM (+98Gb)


--We?  Okay, yeah, I'm getting older too but will always be younger than those albums.

Posted by: logprof at August 07, 2013 03:01 AM (3VBXw)

26 Morning, Vic!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 06:57 AM (+98Gb)



Good morning JJ.  Want sum breakfast?

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 03:01 AM (lZvxr)

27 21 “I’m in love with the girl from Channel Nine.” posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 06:59 AM (zF6Iw) "Off go my rocks for that chick on Fox!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 03:03 AM (+98Gb)

28
Arrrrggg you made me click on that and I am drinking decaf!

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 07:00 AM (lZvxr)


--Yeah, I need to get shuteye but it's irresistible.

Posted by: logprof at August 07, 2013 03:03 AM (3VBXw)

29 26 Good morning JJ. Want sum breakfast? Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 07:01 AM (lZvxr) Craving some shrimp and grits, but I'll have to settle for some rye toast, cream cheese and tomato.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 03:04 AM (+98Gb)

30 Talk's cheap, Preibus. Tell the alphabets to really fuck off - which means actual, independent moderators - then I'll believe you. Until then, I'll consider you're just huffing and puffing before your inevitable fold. i'm sure he'll succeed in getting the documentary pulled. Then we'll go back to CNN pundits asking the candidates who believe in Evolution to raise their hands. Reince can claim he's a rock-ribbed conservative without doing anything important, Democrat comedians can make fun of him for getting in a lather about a stupid documentary nobody would have watched, and the Streisand Effect will ensure more people want to see it. The RNC should just tell the networks to fuck off. That's it. Broadcast debates online and have the candidates pick the moderator.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 07, 2013 03:05 AM (uhAkr)

31 Wow. I think Led Zeppelin's first album is about the same age. We are getting old... Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 06:58 AM (+98Gb) --We? Okay, yeah, I'm getting older too but will always be younger than those albums. Posted by: logprof at August 07, 2013 07:01 AM (3VBXw) Speaking of LZ. Sitting at the inlaws, 14 tear old niece has an Ipod jamming to something. I say "Hey, whatcha listening to?" She says "You wouldn't like it Uncle OSP." I says, "Gimme an earbud before I smack you." She laughs and hands it over. It's Zepplin 4, she's listening to the whole freaking record. Yeah, I said record.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:06 AM (XIxXP)

32 30 Talk's cheap, Preibus. Tell the alphabets to really fuck off - which means actual, independent moderators - then I'll believe you. Until then, I'll consider you're just huffing and puffing before your inevitable fold.

i'm sure he'll succeed in getting the documentary pulled. Then we'll go back to CNN pundits asking the candidates who believe in Evolution to raise their hands.

Reince can claim he's a rock-ribbed conservative without doing anything important, Democrat comedians can make fun of him for getting in a lather about a stupid documentary nobody would have watched, and the Streisand Effect will ensure more people want to see it.

The RNC should just tell the networks to fuck off. That's it. Broadcast debates online and have the candidates pick the moderator.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 07, 2013 07:05 AM (uhAkr)


--Sultan Knish's post about the Schizophrenic Elephant should be required reading.

Posted by: logprof at August 07, 2013 03:07 AM (3VBXw)

33 --Sultan Knish's post about the Schizophrenic Elephant should be required reading. That was an excellent piece.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 07, 2013 03:08 AM (uhAkr)

34 18 If you have any gouge or advice, I would be grateful if you would pass it on. I'm leaving for work but I will check back in later.

Thanks!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 07, 2013 06:59 AM (lbBsF)



It has been a long long time since I went through Navy Nuke.  But I can tell you it is tough.  The desk school is the last two years of high intensity college physics/math type courses crammed into 6 months.



Then you get 6 months of OJT at a prototype, 12 hour days 7/week with a couple of days off between.



Then you go to fleet and spend lots o' days at work.




Tell her she would be better off going to a two year tech school and the getting a job as an auxiliary operator/Plant equipment operator at a Nuke Plant in the  civilian world.



If she wants to do that I may be able to help.  Big may the way they do hiring now.

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 03:09 AM (lZvxr)

35

The RNC should just tell the networks to fuck off. That's it.
Broadcast debates online and have the candidates pick the moderator.

 

Cut.  Jib.  Newsletter.

Hey, J.J., mind passing me the lox?  Thanks.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 03:09 AM (zF6Iw)

36 That was an excellent piece. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 07, 2013 07:08 AM (uhAkr) Was that posted here or do I have to hunt it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:09 AM (XIxXP)

37 31 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 07:06 AM (XIxXP) The kid's got good taste. I have to thank my dad for turning me on to everything from Gershwin and Mendelsohn to Benny Goodman and Duke Ellington.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 03:09 AM (+98Gb)

38 Was that posted here or do I have to hunt it. it was on the sidebar this weekend.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 07, 2013 03:11 AM (uhAkr)

39 theyÂ’re not in the business of doing anything but promoting the Democratic party. Errr, ummm, we already know that, Reince. If you now realize it, why would you negotiate *at all* with somebody like CNN or NBC?

Posted by: t-bird at August 07, 2013 03:11 AM (FcR7P)

40 35 Hey, J.J., mind passing me the lox? Thanks. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 07:09 AM (zF6Iw) Mit a schmear. Here you go. And yes, the RNC should (not that they ever would) boycott all TV media. Let's go to the intertubes and get ahead of the curve. Put the nail in the coffin of the MFM.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 03:11 AM (+98Gb)

41 The kid's got good taste. I have to thank my dad for turning me on to everything from Gershwin and Mendelsohn to Benny Goodman and Duke Ellington. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 07:09 AM (+98Gb) My Dad loved all music. He also gave me the gift.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:11 AM (XIxXP)

42 29 Craving some shrimp and grits, but I'll have to settle for some rye toast, cream cheese and tomato.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 07:04 AM (+98Gb)



I was thinking of something like rye but it had little to do with toast except the after effects.

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 03:12 AM (lZvxr)

43 And yes, the RNC should (not that they ever would) boycott all TV media. Let's go to the intertubes and get ahead of the curve. Put the nail in the coffin of the MFM. I'll donate a hammer.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2013 03:12 AM (XCfYI)

44 Speaking of "brown" -- and, alas, not Vic's kind -- Boston is once again showing us that the Race Card has unlimited credit, as this Boston Herald story shows.

http://bit.ly/192ioMw

Backstory: Amy Lord was brutally murdered in Boston, which prompted near-hysteria on the part of other young women. A low-life POS thug was arrested for other crimes, but is believed to have killed Lord as well, a crime for which he has not yet been charged. Inevitably, police screwups are now believed to have allowed said low-life thug to remain free after earlier crimes, thus giving him the opportunity to kill Amy Lord.

Okay, standard police department fuckups, and no surprise considering that the Boston cops have bungled more than their share of past cases. But the internal investigation pointed to a black detective who was, apparently, lazy. The police commissioner demoted his ass.

As we have all seen, laziness and incompetence isn't enough to disqualify Persons of Color©, be they a low-level cop or president.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 07, 2013 03:14 AM (kaGpp)

45 My youngest is eating breakfast. Her first day of forth grade. When the hell did that happen? Just yesterday she was a baby with colic and was busy throwing the entire house into turmoil. Damn it moves fast.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:14 AM (XIxXP)

46 Establishment Republicans fully supported SCOAMF giving an O-care waiver to Congressional staff members and will not oppose this. One party rule is here.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 03:16 AM (+98Gb)

47 Talk's cheap, Preibus. Tell the alphabets to really fuck off - which means actual, independent moderators - then I'll believe you. Until then, I'll consider you're just huffing and puffing before your inevitable fold.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 06:58 AM (zF6Iw)

Exactly, MP4, I think they got a lot of complaints about the supine way both the Party and Romney let Candy Crowley not only ruin the debate, but, use an actual script from the DNC to do it.  May the fleas of ten thousand camels infest her fupa, note that I am being nice, since there is room for the fleas of a hundred thousand camels there.

Until we at least insist of fair platform for the debates--then just how dumb are we?

As for the bio-pics for Clinton, just false and ugly in kind contributions for a false and ugly candidate.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 03:16 AM (kXoT0)

48 Morning OSP. I know I am late to the party but I am loving your book.

Posted by: BornLib at August 07, 2013 03:17 AM (zpNwC)

49 36 That was an excellent piece.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 07, 2013 07:08 AM (uhAkr)

Was that posted here or do I have to hunt it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 07:09 AM (XIxXP)


--I linked in the ONT.  Go to sultanknish.blogspot.ca and scroll down to "A Schizophrenic Elephant."

Posted by: logprof at August 07, 2013 03:17 AM (3VBXw)

50 URL for schizo elephant piece: http://tinyurl.com/mkvzz8j

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 07, 2013 03:17 AM (uhAkr)

51 42 I was thinking of something like rye but it had little to do with toast except the after effects. Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 07:12 AM (lZvxr) Instant Breakfast (not by Carnation), eh?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 03:17 AM (+98Gb)

52 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 07, 2013 06:59 AM (lbBsF)



I am going now but if your daughter is interested in Nuke w/o Navy and starting in Ops at the lower levels and working up, send me an email and we will talk.  CBD has my e-mail address.

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 03:18 AM (lZvxr)

53 38 Was that posted here or do I have to hunt it.

it was on the sidebar this weekend.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 07, 2013 07:11 AM (uhAkr)


--I seriously need to check the sidebar more.  I pretty much just read the posts and depending on the time of day just dive into the comments.

Posted by: logprof at August 07, 2013 03:18 AM (3VBXw)

54

And yes, the RNC should (not that they ever would) boycott all TV media. Let's go to the intertubes and get ahead of the curve. Put the nail in the coffin of the MFM

 

Exactly.  We had a discussion last week in the comments about sending back RNC surveys with a few choice Anglo-Saxon words scribbled over them, and how no one but the mailroom boys would see them because no one wants to bring bad news to the higher-ups.  I don't think the GOP knows how much good will it could garner from the base if it would just fight back! -

 

"Mr. Candidate, what's your position on evolution?"

 

"Why would you ask me that question?"

 

"Because the people need to know -"

 

"No, I mean why are you asking me that question?  Did you ask it of my opponent?"

 

"Well, sir - "

 

"Did you ask it of my opponent?"

 

"Well, no, but -"

 

"But nothing.  I don't talk to propaganda hacks.  Go ask my opponent that question and I'll consider answering yours.  Next?"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 03:18 AM (zF6Iw)

55 Morning..
Speaking of LZ..

A couple weeks ago the wife and I saw the band Heart who is touring with the Jason Bonham Led Zeppelin Experience.  Jason is the son of LZ's original drummer, John Bonhan.

Anyhoo.. Jason Bonham does the whole first set with a really good band and a really good singer doing all LZ songs.

Then Heart did a fantastic set.. then both bands get back together and they do more Zep tunes, with Ann Wilson wailing on Stairway as the finale.

It was a fantastic show.  If you get a chance to see them, do it.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 07, 2013 03:18 AM (UTq/I)

56 54 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 07:18 AM (zF6Iw) "Mr. Candidate, what's your position on evolution?" "FUCK YOU. NEXT QUESTION." The candidate that responds thusly will get my life savings.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 03:20 AM (+98Gb)

57 45 My youngest is eating breakfast. Her first day of forth grade. When the hell did that happen? Just yesterday she was a baby with colic and was busy throwing the entire house into turmoil. Damn it moves fast.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 07:14 AM (XIxXP)



Better enjoy it while you can.  Only a few years before she is dragging sum skuz with tattoos on his ass home to snuggle on the couch in front of you.


I went through that.

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 03:20 AM (lZvxr)

58 " 45 My youngest is eating breakfast. Her first day of forth grade " Damn, OSP. Seems awfully early - must be private school? My oldest all start fourth in a few weeks. Public, but not too bad of a district, really. Her little bro starts first and they can't wait.

Posted by: shredded chi at August 07, 2013 03:21 AM (o/Ar3)

59 "But nothing. I don't talk to propaganda hacks. Go ask my opponent that question and I'll consider answering yours. Next?" MP4 for higher office!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2013 03:21 AM (XCfYI)

60 Crochetyoldjarhead, if your daughter is a math geek, tell her to look into becoming an actuary.  I work in insurance and there are never enough actuaries.  My cousin's daughter went that route and she has it made.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 03:21 AM (kXoT0)

61 55 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 07, 2013 07:18 AM (UTq/I) Heart are nasty leftists, but yeah I would love to see that show. Chicago and Earth, Wind & Fire have been touring together as well. Highlight of their shows is when each band does the other's songs and then come together for the encore. Would LOVE to see that show.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 03:22 AM (+98Gb)

62 If the RNC were smart they would also ask Rick Warren to host one of those 'debates' like he did in 2008. He got more out of Obama in his one-on-one sit-down than any reporter or debate moderator ever did. Of course, he was actually trying, unlike the rest of 'em.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2013 03:22 AM (CzGy/)

63 Instant Breakfast (not by Carnation), eh?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 07:17 AM (+98Gb)


The kind you would like.  But if'n you want Buffalo Trace you will have to bring it.

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 03:22 AM (lZvxr)

64

Better enjoy it while you can. Only a few years before she is dragging sum skuz with tattoos on his ass home to snuggle on the couch in front of you.


I went through that.

 

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 07:20 AM (lZvxr)

 

Interesting.  I didn't know Dillinger had tats.  You learn something new every day on the HQ.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 03:23 AM (zF6Iw)

65 62 Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2013 07:22 AM (CzGy/) Debates should be moderated by Mark Levin and Rush. I wish.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 03:23 AM (+98Gb)

66 Chicago and Earth, Wind & Fire have been touring together as well. Highlight of their shows is when each band does the other's songs and then come together for the encore. What's with the Geritol Tour all of a sudden?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2013 03:24 AM (XCfYI)

67 18 Good Morning Horde! Hey Vic; I have to meet with the Navy recruiter today because the youngest girl is going to enlist in the Nuclear Field. She is a year out of HS with about 20 hours of general BS like history, English etc.. but in HS she did AP calculus, physics and chemistry, so I'm pretty sure she has the background to build on. If you have any gouge or advice, I would be grateful if you would pass it on. I'm leaving for work but I will check back in later. Thanks!Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 07, 2013 06:59 AM (lbBsF) My brother did that. Prepare for 2 years of schooling and to get radiated. Supposedly once they start working they are only supposed to get so many rads or spend so many hours a week in a radiated area. He said they would exceed that every day. He ended up getting prostate cancer at 26 and couldn't have kids. I'd advise her to go into Intel they can make a shit ton of money. Tell her to do the imagery analyst in the Intel field. They look at satellite images and analyze them.

Posted by: Mr Pink at August 07, 2013 03:25 AM (flYEz)

68 64 Interesting. I didn't know Dillinger had tats. You learn something new every day on the HQ. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 07:23 AM (zF6Iw



Dillinger would have been an improvement over some of the skuz that my daughter brought home before she finally wised up.

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 03:25 AM (lZvxr)

69 "What's with the Geritol Tour all of a sudden?"

Those Viagra and Depends (t) ain't gonna pay for themselves you know.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2013 03:26 AM (c8tlE)

70 Yeah.. I know the Wilson sisters are lefties.. they planned Sarah Palin from using Barracuda..

But I decided a while ago I won't let politics mess with my entertainment..  I like going to the movies too much.  If I let politics affect my choices, I would never see on damn film again!

That Chicago and Earth, Wind & Fire does sound good!  They're gonna be here at the old Chicago Theater in Sept...  after-market tickets only available though.. the prices are ouch!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 07, 2013 03:26 AM (UTq/I)

71 >>Debates should be moderated by Mark Levin and Rush.

That would be fun. Maybe we could just get their input on decent questions.

I'd settle for reporters who didn't know one of the candidates (well enough to have him attend her wedding - Radditz) or who aren't currently writing a book about one of the candidate's historic run for office (Ifill in 200

Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2013 03:27 AM (CzGy/)

72 66 What's with the Geritol Tour all of a sudden? Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2013 07:24 AM (XCfYI) There are some bands that actually can still perform and put on a great show, but they are few and far between. Many can't, such as the Rolling Stones and should just go the hell away. I still go to the symphony and opera when I can, as well as certain jazz performances. Saw both Les Paul and Dave Brubeck over the past few years and they were wonderful.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 03:27 AM (+98Gb)

73 What's with the Geritol Tour all of a sudden?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2013 07:24 AM (XCfYI)


Money, honey, the Boomers are nostalgic and they are willing to pay for concerts that bring back their misspend youth.  Taxes, bad investments, worse managers, and excessive lifestyles have left a lot of musicians only wealthy rather than rock star rich, so they tour to get some cash flow.  In fact, some of them are broke and aspire to be middle class again.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 03:28 AM (kXoT0)

74 Posted by: Mr Pink at August 07, 2013 07:25 AM (flYEz)



Navy Nukes get almost zero radiation.  All of that crap is a load of of horseshit.



In today's civilian market people get almost zero compared to what I got decades ago. 

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 03:28 AM (lZvxr)

75 banned.. not planned

*sigh*

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 07, 2013 03:29 AM (UTq/I)

76 And yes, the RNC should (not that they ever would) boycott all TV media. Let's go to the intertubes and get ahead of the curve. Put the nail in the coffin of the MFM. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 07:11 AM (+98Gb) Thank you, dead tree or Kindle?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:31 AM (XIxXP)

77 My youngest is eating breakfast. Her first day of forth grade. When the hell did that happen? Just yesterday she was a baby with colic and was busy throwing the entire house into turmoil. Damn it moves fast.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 07:14 AM (XIxXP)

 

*******

It's somehow becomes a parenting zip-line. Hubby and I are in St. Augustine celebrating our 30th anniversary and catching up with old friends. Had drinks with John E and his lovely wife and baby daughter Monday night. My youngest is a junior in college and it seems like yesterday I was driving him to soccer or baseball games.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at August 07, 2013 03:32 AM (TslGb)

78 45 My youngest is eating breakfast. Her first day of forth grade " Damn, OSP. Seems awfully early - must be private school? My oldest all start fourth in a few weeks. Public, but not too bad of a district, really. Her little bro starts first and they can't wait. Posted by: shredded chi at August 07, 2013 07:21 AM (o/Ar3) Yep, Montessori. Pricey but standard curriculum bores her.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:33 AM (XIxXP)

79 76 Thank you, dead tree or Kindle? Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 07:31 AM (XIxXP) Oatmeal cans and string.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 03:33 AM (+98Gb)

80 Anyone watch Obama on Leno? I've only seen bits reported on the web, but I see that Leno's monologue included a zinger about Obama needing to fix things here in the US instead of overseas, and this from the pool report:

POTUS said people can still take vacation, just do so in a “prudent way” by checking on the State Department Websites for up-to-day information before making plans.

“The odds of dying in a terrorist attack are a lot lower than they are of dying in a car accident, unfortunately.”

***Unfortunately**

That guy has such a way with words, eh?


Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2013 03:33 AM (CzGy/)

81 In today's civilian market people get almost zero compared to what I got decades ago. Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 07:28 AM (lZvxr) They max me out at 2000mr and will extend me, if necessary another 1500. Federal law is 5000.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:34 AM (XIxXP)

82 Rush made the same point as some of you the other day.  Stay off the networks, unless you are going to punch back hard.  If you don't, you're just playing their game, by their rules. 

Or  the R party could just keep doing what it's been doing for decades: pretending they  expect to be treated fairly by network television. 

Delusion... it ain't just a river in Egypt. 

Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2013 03:35 AM (BeSEI)

83 They max me out at 2000mr and will extend me, if necessary another 1500. Federal law is 5000.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 07:34 AM (XIxXP)



My first year at work I got 5000mr/qtr but got to go now.

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 03:37 AM (lZvxr)

84 Why do I kinda feel sorry for Vic's daughter's boyfriends that she brought home?

Posted by: Case at August 07, 2013 03:37 AM (o00SF)

85 Navy Nukes get almost zero radiation. All of that crap is a load of of horseshit.In today's civilian market people get almost zero compared to what I got decades ago. Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 07:28 AM (lZvxr) I'll tell my brother he's a liar later and his cancer didn't happen.

Posted by: Mr Pink at August 07, 2013 03:37 AM (flYEz)

86 My youngest is eating breakfast. Her first day of forth grade. When the hell did that happen? Just yesterday she was a baby with colic and was busy throwing the entire house into turmoil. Damn it moves fast.Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 07:14 AM (XIxXP) -------------------- That it does. My oldest was 20 inches long when she was born. Now she's nine and the same height as her mother, who is 5'2". All my babies are getting big and it was just yesterday that I could put all of them on my lap together! That "they grow up fast" saying is something you never fully understand the bittersweet truth of until you live it.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 07, 2013 03:38 AM (JDIKC)

87 85 I'll tell my brother he's a liar later and his cancer didn't happen.

Posted by: Mr Pink at August 07, 2013 07:37 AM (flYEz)



My wife got cancer, she has zero exposure.  Sorry for you brother but Nuke has little to do with it.

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 03:38 AM (lZvxr)

88 Or the RNC could finally put together some media training for their candidates. Just watch pros like Gingrich and Sununu push back - firmly - against the MSM. Scott Brown was actually quite good at rejecting the Lefty premise that is so often embedded in interview questions during his initial run.
Until they can do this they are useless.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2013 03:39 AM (CzGy/)

89 48 Morning OSP. I know I am late to the party but I am loving your book.

Posted by: BornLib at August 07, 2013 07:17 AM (zpNwC)

 

Just finished Amy Lynn.  Heck of a good read!

Posted by: Ammo Dump at August 07, 2013 03:39 AM (GgPam)

90 Today's celebrity birthdays: The Purple Heart Mata Hari (freaky headgear) Louis Leakey (Christian Darwinist) Stan Freberg (Pete Puma, et al) Edwin Edwards (corrupt Democrat, but I repeat myself) Carl Switzer (freckled warbler) Jerry Pournelle (friend of Newt) Steve Ihnat (shapeshifting nutcase) B.J. Thomas (http://youtu.be/JNnnWfUpYGg) Robert Mueller (6th FBI boss) John Glover (long-haired Luthor) David Rasche (sledges like a hammer) Alan Keyes (loud) Wayne Knight (magic word warnings) David Duchovny Patrick Bouvier Kennedy (only here for 2 days ) Charlize Theron (over?) Cirroc Lofton (son of the Emissary)

Posted by: Gran at August 07, 2013 03:40 AM (mw0FO)

91 Bye all come by and have a shot

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 03:40 AM (lZvxr)

92 McRINO and Grahamesty are urging that terrorists be released. Maybe Preibus should contemplate what those two dickholes are doing to the image of the party he's responsible for promoting.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 07, 2013 03:42 AM (UKk6B)

93

For young people going into the military who want training and experience for a civilian job might want to take a peek at Environmental Engineering.  They test air  and water.  It's my understanding it's good money in the civilian world.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at August 07, 2013 03:42 AM (GgPam)

94 My wife got cancer, she has zero exposure. Sorry for you brother but Nuke has little to do with it. Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2013 07:38 AM (lZvxr) My Dad was a 4956 Nuke Components welder in the Navy. Also died of Cancer young. He was involved in an incident at the West Milton facility in "73". I hope someday I can talk to you privately about that.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:43 AM (XIxXP)

95 Just finished Amy Lynn. Heck of a good read! Posted by: Ammo Dump at August 07, 2013 07:39 AM (GgPam) Thanks. Pecking away at the next one.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:44 AM (XIxXP)

96 So.   I read that Powerline piece.   Let me just say that I was less than impressed.   Multiple issues spring to mind immediately but here are the two main ones.   If the CIA is being ever so helpful, why the fuck are none of the survivors providing testimony?  I mean, if Congress knows where they are, send off the subpoenas, baby.  

Then there's this, the hilarious irony of which appears to be lost on Hinderaker.   He states the following conclusion:   "So, unless someone steps forward in his own name and offers solid evidence to the contrary, my conclusion is that the CIA angle is a needless distraction from the real Benghazi scandal, which involves not the Agency, but Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice and Barack Obama."


What is his basis for this?   An anonymous Congressional source.   Yes, ladies and gents, he is stating that his anonymous source is way better than all those anonymous sources over there.   Ummmmm.   Yeah.


Now, hey, I would hope he knows who his source is and based on that knowledge he leaps to his conclusion.   But, for me anyway, the entire argument goes off the rails right there.   Nope.   Sorry.   I'm not just going to take your word for it that your anonymous source is totes right.   Nope.


Which isn't to say that the CIA was doing something devious.   We don't know.   That's also not to say the scandal isn't more where the hell was Obama and what did the Executive Branch do during all of this.   But the circularity of the reasoning in that post is a wonder to behold.  

Posted by: alexthechick at August 07, 2013 03:44 AM (Gk3SS)

97 76 Kindle. I am a fifth of the way in so far. I am very eager to get to the story of the Night of the Tioga Monster.

Posted by: BornLib at August 07, 2013 03:44 AM (zpNwC)

98 90 Steve Ihnat (shapeshifting nutcase) Posted by: Gran at August 07, 2013 07:40 AM (mw0FO) A very good actor who died way too young at 37 (heart attack). Very memorable roles, most notably on "Star Trek" and "Mission: Impossible."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2013 03:45 AM (+98Gb)

99 Just finished Amy Lynn. Heck of a good read! Posted by: Ammo Dump at August 07, 2013 07:39 AM (GgPam) Thanks. Pecking away at the next one. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 07:44 AM (XIxXP) Don't know if you have or not but I would be grateful for a review on amazon

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:45 AM (XIxXP)

100 " Yep, Montessori. Pricey but standard curriculum bores her. " That's exactly my goal. Hopefully next year if we can swing it... I figure I have about seven months and my mortgage will be paid in full. That'll help a ton.

Posted by: shredded chi at August 07, 2013 03:46 AM (o/Ar3)

101 thinking about Zimmerman and how the MSM and Oprah and all keep hounding him. What if in say ten years of doing the same he comes up for trial for whatever? Could a lawyer argue that its impossible to panel an impartial jury in any jurisdiction? Have they freed him, in essence, by going too far?

Posted by: Bigbys Cell Fingers at August 07, 2013 03:46 AM (wlajc)

102 76 Kindle. I am a fifth of the way in so far. I am very eager to get to the story of the Night of the Tioga Monster. Posted by: BornLib at August 07, 2013 07:44 AM (zpNwC) Jack Browns last mission. People are rarely who you think they are. That was fun to write.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:46 AM (XIxXP)

103 Until they can do this they are useless.  Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2013 07:39 AM (CzGy/)

Agreed, for every candidate for Senate/Congress/VPOTUS/POTUS, I want them all sent to a boot camp where they learn how to respond to questions about infanticide by tortuous dismemberment.  I want them to be letter perfect and smooth on the subject even if it is the end of a 20 hour campaign day.  I want them to be able to say smoothly,


"Abortion is not a topic that I discuss.  It is settled law.  Next question."


Reporter/Reporterette, "Idiot Republica, tell me why you won't discuss abortion.  Tell me why you hate women so much that you want them only to have abortions in clean, safe, regulated environments."


"You are off the campaign bus.  I always liked you personally, but, rules are rules.  I told all of you that I will not be badgered and harassed.  I am sure your network/paper/wire service has a backup they can send."

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 03:46 AM (kXoT0)

104 He worked on the Enterprise or Eisenhower whichever was nicknamed the mobile chernobole which he said was chronically understaffed with nukes. I'd go ask him about the 5000 whatever a day he exceeded on orders but he's dead.

Posted by: Mr Pink at August 07, 2013 03:48 AM (flYEz)

105 That's exactly my goal. Hopefully next year if we can swing it... I figure I have about seven months and my mortgage will be paid in full. That'll help a ton. Posted by: shredded chi at August 07, 2013 07:46 AM (o/Ar3) They are Uber FKN libtards. I have to teach the mother Ghia crap out of her. But the academics are outstanding.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:48 AM (XIxXP)

106 Don't know if you have or not but I would be grateful for a review on amazon

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 07:45 AM (XIxXP)

 

Well yes I did.  My review is the one that says; "Of all the books I've read, this is definitely one of them.  This come from the heart."  Seriously, 5 star book.  Couldn't put it down.  Great work OSP!!

Posted by: Ammo Dump at August 07, 2013 03:49 AM (GgPam)

107 Well yes I did. My review is the one that says; "Of all the books I've read, this is definitely one of them. This come from the heart." Seriously, 5 star book. Couldn't put it down. Great work OSP!! Posted by: Ammo Dump at August 07, 2013 07:49 AM (GgPam) Thank you, thats a big deal to me.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:50 AM (XIxXP)

108 Well yes I did. My review is the one that says; "Of all the books I've read, this is definitely one of them. This come from the heart." Seriously, 5 star book. Couldn't put it down. Great work OSP!!

 

Posted by: Ammo Dump at August 07, 2013 07:49 AM (GgPam)

 

Mine read, "If you like this sort of thing, then this is the sort of thing you'll like."

 

But Seriously You Guys, it's a great book.  Wish I could write half as well!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 03:51 AM (zF6Iw)

109 Too many GOP candidates are enamored with national press coverage it seems to me.  Even bad coverage and hack jobs.  Also, they hire from this damn pool of political advisor hacks that play the game and swim in the water with the sharks and get paid regardless of outcome.

I like the idea of turning down debates and staying off the damn shows.  I would also like Prebus to go on the attack right now as he gets interviewed and ask about the complete BS questions asked in the GOP debates and the high number of them.  That was incredibly painful and unhelpful.

Posted by: Yip at August 07, 2013 03:53 AM (/jHWN)

110 " They are Uber FKN libtards. " short of catholic schools, who isn't nowadays? I wouldn't doubt if half the teachers in catholic schools are, too. All we can do is police that shit at home.

Posted by: shredded chi at August 07, 2013 03:53 AM (o/Ar3)

111 But Seriously You Guys, it's a great book. Wish I could write half as well! Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 07:51 AM (zF6Iw) Anna Puma is the writer of this crew. I'm just a redneck storyteller. I don't know when she will finish something, but when she does, look out.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 03:54 AM (XIxXP)

112 99 Once I am done I will definitely post reviews on Amazon and Goodreads.

Posted by: BornLib at August 07, 2013 03:54 AM (zpNwC)

113 Then there's this, the hilarious irony of which appears to be lost on Hinderaker. He states the following conclusion: "So, unless someone steps forward in his own name and offers solid evidence to the contrary, my conclusion is that the CIA angle is a needless distraction from the real Benghazi scandal, which involves not the Agency, but Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice and Barack Obama." ----------------------------- Yeah, that was some serious appeal to authority shit going on over there. Trying to recapture the heady feeling of the TANG glory days, when he was getting mentions on Rush and Fox, perhaps? That whole piece smacked of "I have a CONGRESSIONAL SOURCE! I'm a PLAYER!" Really? Then why all the fresh NDAs being dropped off on the hospital beds of the people who were there and no media contact for a year with these people? That piece was less about Benghazi than about John Hinderaker's sense of importance, was my takeaway.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 07, 2013 03:54 AM (JDIKC)

114 Thank you, thats a big deal to me.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 07:50 AM (XIxXP)

 

My review is from "Not the Donald."  Starts out with the word "WOW."  Certainly strongly recommend this awesome book (Amy Lynn) to the horde, particular since the horde gets a mention and a few hat tips to our feelings about what is going on in our country now.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at August 07, 2013 03:56 AM (GgPam)

115 I would like moron guy advice on what to say to my grandson,  who got cut from his high school soccer team.  He has played since he was 10,  has been a great player,  and loves the game and was hoping for a scholarship.

Last year he got 2 concussions and missed the end of the season,  and this spring he got a knee injury in league play which necessitated surgery.  He did his best to get in shape,  but the short summer meant that his speed and strength was not full-up before school started in JULY (spit) so,  no team this fall.

Anyway,  he is bummed and is not going to have his usual fall routine.  So I thought some guys might have some advice.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 07, 2013 03:56 AM (GoIUi)

116 Jack Browns last mission. People are rarely who you think they are. That was fun to write. ---------------------- I want a Hatchet Jack novel and I want it right fucking now. I'll read that while you work on a Marcel novel.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 07, 2013 03:56 AM (JDIKC)

117

That whole piece smacked of "I have a CONGRESSIONAL SOURCE! I'm a PLAYER!"

 

Yes.  Another reason why the GOP is as useful as Amanda Marcotte as your wingman.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 03:56 AM (zF6Iw)

118 Mine read, "If you like this sort of thing, then this is the sort of thing you'll like."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 07:51 AM (zF6Iw)

 

Gave me a case of the giggles this morning.  Thanks!

Posted by: Ammo Dump at August 07, 2013 04:01 AM (GgPam)

119 " ... as useful as Amanda Marcotte as your wingman. " Actually, I think that might work out. The average bar-hopping chick would just think she was one of your fraternity brothers.

Posted by: shredded chi at August 07, 2013 04:03 AM (o/Ar3)

120 Regarding the CIA thing,  it is possible that they were NOT running guns,  but that the guns were being sent through another source after they found the weapons.  In other  words,  CIA finds guns,  sends them to warehouse, Libyans "guard them," and a fair proportion get shipped out to Syria.

Also,  if the CIA wasn't involved (which would indicate the failure of the rescue to arrive since I don't believe the CIA would do something without a back-up plan) then we are back to the fake kidnapping thing with only Obama, Hillary,  and possibly Rice and/or Clapper knowing about it.

An Obama official met with one of the Blind Sheik's agents in Cairo in July of 2012,  a month and a half before Benghazi.  A clue!  A clue!

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 07, 2013 04:04 AM (GoIUi)

121 They were blocking the terrorists, of which there is little evidence, despite Jack Murphy's book, or facilitating them,

Posted by: john smallberry at August 07, 2013 04:05 AM (8sqvd)

122 115 I would like moron guy advice on what to say to my grandson, who got cut from his high school soccer team. He has played since he was 10, has been a great player, and loves the game and was hoping for a scholarship.

Anyway, he is bummed and is not going to have his usual fall routine. So I thought some guys might have some advice.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 07, 2013 07:56 AM (GoIUi)

Recommend he continue his workouts on his own.  When he is back up to full speed have him let the coach know he's ready and available if the team needs him.  At the very worst  he stays in shape and there is always the possibility someone will get hurt or quit the team and the coach will need a replacement.  Just a thought.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at August 07, 2013 04:05 AM (GgPam)

123 Thanks,  Ammo Dump!  That is really a good idea!

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 07, 2013 04:06 AM (GoIUi)

124 120 Regarding the CIA thing, it is possible that they were NOT running guns, but that the guns were being sent through another source after they found the weapons. In other words, CIA finds guns, sends them to warehouse, Libyans "guard them," and a fair proportion get shipped out to Syria.

An Obama official met with one of the Blind Sheik's agents in Cairo in July of 2012, a month and a half before Benghazi. A clue! A clue!

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 07, 2013 08:04 AM (GoIUi)

 

 

 

Early on there was some speculation it was a missile buy back program.  If so, Amb Stevens could have had a trunk full of money the terrorists were after.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at August 07, 2013 04:08 AM (GgPam)

125 Rush made the same point as some of you the other day. Stay off the networks, unless you are going to punch back hard. If you don't, you're just playing their game, by their rules. Or the R party could just keep doing what it's been doing for decades: ...alienating & losing their base. Fringe Party. It's not just for the L Party anymore.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2013 04:09 AM (XCfYI)

126 Newt, actually did that in a few of the debates, Sununu usually had to apologize for many of his statements. It doesn't matter that he is free, they are still 'dialing up to Eleventy' as part of Oprah's press junket.

Posted by: john smalberry at August 07, 2013 04:10 AM (8sqvd)

127 I don't believe a single fucking thing about Powerline's "congressional source" that says the sources talking about CIA weapons transfers to Syria or a secret detention facility are untrue. The source also seems to dispute CNN's scoop that the CIA is trying to hush up Benghazi survivors. My bullshit meter pegged on that one.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 07, 2013 04:10 AM (tOkJB)

128 "sources talking about CIA weapons transfers to Syria <> are untrue." I'm pretty sure that we were supplying arms via the CIA & State Dept. to douchebags back in 2012, Libya for a LOOOONG time! Detention Facility is a red herring. Weapons transfers. I guaran, god-damn-tee it!

Posted by: Deety at August 07, 2013 04:11 AM (UaCt0)

129 How about if it isn't the CIA who is trying to shut up the survivors?

What if it is the NSA through the office of the president and the DOJ through the FBI who is doing the polygraphs and presenting the extra non-disclosure agreements?

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 07, 2013 04:12 AM (GoIUi)

130  Mornin' moron/ettes. I'm up at the crack of dawn because Skittles the cat  (yes, I named him in honor of Saint Trayvon) wouldn't take no for an answer and I didn't have the 9mm on me.

That settles it. An unnamed congressional source says there's nothing to see here move along. This must be just another of those "phony scandals" Obama is always going on about.

Posted by: Kim at August 07, 2013 04:13 AM (ICqvM)

131 He wants fewer debates and better-formatted debates, which, btw, were two of the conclusions of the 2012 autopsy. No shit, Sherlock. I was saying that in 2011.

Posted by: rickl at August 07, 2013 04:14 AM (sdi6R)

132 Bare minimum Vic, but MPPPP Hollywood story. Well, I'll take what I can get, since my "platinum" membership card disintegrated with the humidity. Good morning, revolutionaries. I brought a dozen glazed for the buffet. Where's the coffee?

Posted by: mindful webworker & dog at August 07, 2013 04:14 AM (ztCj0)

133 Which isn't to say that the CIA was doing something devious. We don't know. That's also not to say the scandal isn't more where the hell was Obama and what did the Executive Branch do during all of this. But the circularity of the reasoning in that post is a wonder to behold.
Posted by: alexthechick
...........
" the CIA was doing something devious"..  No, duh..

Of course they were doing something devious.  That's what the CIA does.. especially in a largely unprotected compound in Benghazi.

This CIA angle has been known about from day one.  In the earliest hearings on Benghazi, one of the House members (I believe) mentioned the CIA headquarters and was told to shut up about it because they had been briefed behind closed doors - if I recall all this correctly.

So, Issa knows about it, and has known about it all along.

But WTF does that have to do with the Admin's response?  Where was Obama that night?  Where was HIllary?  Who the fuck screwed the pooch?  Steven's mission and the CIA's mission is almost irrelevant.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 07, 2013 04:16 AM (UTq/I)

134 One thing that frosts my cookies is the continuing story that Romney did not want to run for POTUS.  OK, I get that, then why the hell did he do it?  Why did he waste our time if he was not going to be all in on the effort.  I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that is why he did not go after Obama or eviscerate him in the debates the way he did his primary opponents.  FEH!  If you don't want to run, here's an idea, do NOT run!  His whole effort was schizophrenic, he marched through the primaries like Sherman through Georgia, but, then in the general election, he went all "Hands off, I respect the President too much to tell you what a piece of crap he is."

The whole damn thing makes my blood boil over and over again.  America could not afford 4 more years of Obama and it would have been nice to see a candidate fight like he believed that.

Apologies to anyone who still gets upset with references to the Civil War or the War of Northern Aggression.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 04:16 AM (kXoT0)

135 The Weekly Standard reported days ago that the CIA was not attempting to stop anyone from testifying before Congress.. The rightwing got hosed again on this.

Posted by: occam at August 07, 2013 04:17 AM (OjZ/F)

136 Heritage with the reminder: DOD is only 20 percent of federal spending, but is getting socked with 40 percent of the sequester cuts.

We can't let something trivial like the defense of the country impede the flow of free shit.

Posted by: Low Information Voter at August 07, 2013 04:17 AM (Dwehj)

137 Is Twitchy the slowest loading site in history? It's like watching Cindy Crawford come into view line by curvaceous line on my old dial-up.

Posted by: Worker at August 07, 2013 04:18 AM (Q8Wa9)

138 Test?

Posted by: TheThinMan at August 07, 2013 04:20 AM (d8FzA)

139 Scandals?  What scandals?  Pay no attention to those dead bodies over there!  Serious guys, what scandals? - King Putt

Posted by: Case at August 07, 2013 04:20 AM (o00SF)

140 The source also seems to dispute CNN's scoop that the CIA is trying to hush up Benghazi survivors. My bullshit meter pegged on that one. What? 30 to 35 survivors & not one "Dodging Sniper Fire For Dummies" book?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2013 04:21 AM (XCfYI)

141

Posted by: mindful webworker & dog at August 07, 2013 08:14 AM (ztCj0)

 

Mmm, glazed.  Yum yum.  Coffee's over there, I think.  I'm drinking tea.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 04:21 AM (zF6Iw)

142 Posted by: Miss Marple at August 07, 2013 07:56 AM (GoIUi) Maybe he could volunteer to be a manager. It will keep him close to the game and Coaches really like that, "It's all for the team" attitude.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 04:22 AM (XIxXP)

143 Levin was ridiculing anybody who would pay attention to Saint Willard the Timid for his squishy warning about a government shutdown. Just STFU, Romney.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 07, 2013 04:22 AM (UKk6B)

144 Just STFU, Romney. Posted by: Captain Hate at August 07, 2013 08:22 AM (UKk6B) Werd.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 04:23 AM (XIxXP)

145

"Mr. Candidate, what's your position on evolution?"


I believe in the evolution of the broadcast TV spectrum to an auction with our aggressive and innovative cellular telephone industry participating.  Ending the Government handout of free spectrum to the broadcast media, promoting free enterprise, and reducing the deficit. 

That wasn't evolution you had in mind -- well you should have been more specific, bitch.


Posted by: Jean at August 07, 2013 04:24 AM (CMlD4)

146  @ 137 [Worker] -- That honor has to go to The Corner at NRO. I'm on a fiber connection with a reasonably modern processor and 8 Gb of RAM and it takes upwards of 45 seconds for the page to finish loading.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at August 07, 2013 04:24 AM (m0h0I)

147 That wasn't evolution you had in mind -- well you should have been more specific, bitch. Posted by: Jean at August 07, 2013 08:24 AM (CMlD4) Outstanding!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 04:24 AM (XIxXP)

148 Yeah, FSA, if my life suddenly depended on it, I could not get my belly up to that trough, but how do other people manage it while still living an middle class lifestyle?


I honestly have no clue how to navigate the system, in re, what "lies" can I tell that no one would check?  For example, two of the stylists where I got my hair done last night--not my stylist--both just got married on the same lavish cruise at sea.  They are sisters and the whole family went.  These gals make serious money--a lot of it in cash.  For example, they do hair extensions all the time at between $400-$800 dollars a pop.  They did not register their marriages because that would cut off their food stamps and other benefits.  How do they know they can get away with this?  How do they know they can drive new expensive cars, live in very nice houses, and sport large diamond engagement rings and still get food stamps?  I would be terrified.


Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 04:26 AM (kXoT0)

149 Crotchety old jarhead: It's been over 20 years since I went through Navy nuke stuff but I would do it again were i 18. number one thing is tell her do not get behind in her classes. It is so fast paced and there is so much information, I would say I learned far more in the two years of school in the Orlando training facility (no longer there) and the upstate New York prototype than in the following years getting a BS and MBA. but woe unto those who fall behind. You start with "voluntary" hours after class and work you way up to "mandatory" hours after class. There were guys who the only time they were not signed into the class were to eat and sleep. Miserable existence for those guys. The level of detail in the knowledge she will acquire is the thing. The other Nukes on here haven't mentioned it probably because they take it for granted, but college info is Wikipedia, Nuke info changes the way you see the world down to its basic structure. Don't worry about the zoomies, she will get more in a day at the beach than a year at sea as a Nuke. And. Going to sea really sucks, no getting around that. Not as bad crawling trough blood soaked mud as a jarhead, (BIG thanks to all who have done those jobs) but painfully monotonous until all Hell breaks loose and some missile tech shuts the wrong valve and attempts to take the Scorpion and Theasher out of port and starboard watch.

Posted by: traye at August 07, 2013 04:27 AM (cWHVZ)

150 The Middle East is awash in guns, no real need to get them in Libya.  Now getting the SAMs, any remaining bugs&gas, explosives and detonators, mines, etc.  -- that I can see.  But, not the heavy wrapper they have on it - unless that is a WH rope-a-dope for the right.

Posted by: Jean at August 07, 2013 04:29 AM (CMlD4)

151 >>"Mr. Candidate, what's your position on evolution?"

Reminds me of when Newt was asked to defend Todd Akin's remarks. He immediately turned it around to asking the reporter why he/she wasn't also interested in Obama's just as radical stance on late-term abortion and on legislation allowing abortionists to abandon aborted children born alive.

I don't advocate that every Republican should be as combative as Newt or Sununu (that's just their style), just that they learn how do redirect loaded questions and respond in a way that calls-out a Lefty premise when it's embedded in a question.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2013 04:29 AM (CzGy/)

152 What was Stephanopulous' DNC-scripted question? Something about contraception or something out of the blue? That's why you don't let the media stage your debates for you.

Posted by: zsasz, Banal Drivelist at August 07, 2013 04:30 AM (MMC8r)

153 They did not register their marriages because that would cut off their food stamps and other benefits. How do they know they can get away with this? How do they know they can drive new expensive cars, live in very nice houses, and sport large diamond engagement rings and still get food stamps? I would be terrified.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil
...........
This.  This is the new normal.

Those gals will be listed as single moms when they have kids.. and by underreporting their income, they will be eligible for up to $9,000 per year in Medical Insurance under Obamacare - as well as the food stamps and probably Earned Income Tax Credits.

How can they do it?  Because this is all welfare-by-mail these days.  There is absolutely no one to check!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 07, 2013 04:30 AM (UTq/I)

154

>>>My bullshit meter pegged on that one.

 

Yep. Everything regarding Benghazi has been a two-step: 1] shoe drops 2] nothing to see here, go back to sleep. Only thing that's interesting about the process [for Benghazi, Snowden, Fast n Furious, Amnesty, all the BS] is watching the spread of who is a liar now. We already knew the MSM are all liars - now we can see which bloggers are corrupt as well.

Posted by: Bigby's Accusing Finger at August 07, 2013 04:31 AM (3ZtZW)

155 I don't advocate that every Republican should be as combative as Newt or Sununu (that's just their style), just that they learn how do redirect loaded questions and respond in a way that calls-out a Lefty premise when it's embedded in a question.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2013 08:29 AM (CzGy/)


Actually, I do want that.  I want it bad.  I voted for Newt in the primary just to reward him for that very behavior--even though I knew he had no shot at the nomination.  It was Oklahoma, Perry was out of the race and Newt did not have a chance, but, I still inked in the bubble by his name.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 04:31 AM (kXoT0)

156 "He wants fewer debates and better-formatted debates, which, btw, were two of the conclusions of the 2012 autopsy. Consider this the opening salvo in that battle." That's nice. He wants the wrong thing. The GOP, if it wants to live long and prosper, needs to abandon the MSM and move to the Internet. It can stay on TV via ads.

Posted by: eman at August 07, 2013 04:32 AM (AO9UG)

157 If you have any gouge or advice, I would be grateful if you would pass it on. I'm leaving for work but I will check back in later.
Thanks!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 07, 2013 06:59 AM (lbBsF)


As an EOD-type techie back in the 60's I was heavily trained on nukes.  Interesting.  We here also heavily investigated for our security clearances and watched like hawks.  There were places overseas we couldn't go and I remember several times being shadowed by inept navy investigators. 

I'm still a member of the Keepers of the Dragon.

She should get into power generation.

Posted by: trainer's looking for a Militia to join... at August 07, 2013 04:32 AM (K5X44)

158 >>What was Stephanopulous' DNC-scripted question? Something about contraception or something out of the blue?

IIRC, during a Republican candidate debate in January he asked them whether or not they supported birth control, which has never been and issue (even the candidates seemed confused about the relevancy of the question).
In February, Obama announced the contraceptive mandate.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2013 04:32 AM (CzGy/)

159

but painfully monotonous until all Hell breaks loose and some missile tech shuts the wrong valve and attempts to take the Scorpion and Theasher out of port and starboard watch.

 

It's the wrong word, but I'm fascinated by those two stories.  And the Waratah and Edmund Fitzgerald, too.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 04:33 AM (zF6Iw)

160 but painfully monotonous until all Hell breaks loose and some missile tech shuts the wrong valve and attempts to take the Scorpion and Theasher out of port and starboard watch. Death of the Thresher is a great book if you like that sort of thing.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 07, 2013 04:34 AM (XIxXP)

161 As we have all seen, laziness and incompetence isn't enough to disqualify Persons of Color©, be they a low-level cop or president. _______ Oboy! A hook on which to hang a webwork. Short vid from last October, but, he's still lazy. http://mindfulwebworks.com/radical/lazy-man Why would anyone think he's lazy?

Posted by: mindful webworker, professional amateur at August 07, 2013 04:35 AM (VV7s1)

162 In case anybody missed it, last night on Leno Obama lost the Atlantic Ocean. From the man who gave us 57 states:

"If we donÂ’t deepen our ports all along the Gulf — places like Charleston, South Carolina, or Savannah, Georgia, or Jacksonville, Florida — if we donÂ’t do that, those ships are going to go someplace else.  And weÂ’ll lose jobs.  Businesses wonÂ’t locate here."

Posted by: Kim at August 07, 2013 04:36 AM (ICqvM)

163 Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 08:31 AM (kXoT0)

Oh, I love it when Newt pushes back, too. We just need some smooth talkers, too. A nice variety of FU MSM pushback.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2013 04:36 AM (CzGy/)

164 This. This is the new normal.

Those gals will be listed as single moms when they have kids.. and by underreporting their income, they will be eligible for up to $9,000 per year in Medical Insurance under Obamacare - as well as the food stamps and probably Earned Income Tax Credits.

How can they do it? Because this is all welfare-by-mail these days. There is absolutely no one to check!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 07, 2013 08:30 AM (UTq/I)


And I know it is racist and indelicate of me to mention it, these gals are White, their new husbands are Black, all the previous husbands/boyfriends were Black, so all the kids are mixed race--beautiful, sweet, smart kids by the way--these girls are good mothers.  They are militant about their rights and their benefits--if it's out there, they are going to get it too.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 04:38 AM (kXoT0)

165 Actually, I do want that. I want it bad. I voted for Newt in the primary just to reward him for that very behavior--even though I knew he had no shot at the nomination. It was Oklahoma, Perry was out of the race and Newt did not have a chance, but, I still inked in the bubble by his name.

 

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 08:31 AM (kXoT0)

 

Ditto.  I'm tired of this deference to the MFM, as if, by virtue of having read All the President's Men, they are somehow more equipped to convey news to the great unwashed.  They are almost without exception stenographers for the DNC; that fact should be shoved in their faces at every opportunity.  Oh, you don't like being called on your bias, Mr. Newsman?  Well, since part of your job description is to "afflict the comforted," I'm "afflicting" you, you worthless hack.

 

And I'm tired of deference to other candidates.  I would mortgage my house and damned near sell my soul for someone during a debate to just turn to the Dem and say flat out, "you are a fucking liar."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 04:40 AM (zF6Iw)

166 145 Nice. Maybe something like, "Some of us have have moved on to the 21st Century. Do try to keep up." could get tacked on there as well.

Posted by: BornLib at August 07, 2013 04:40 AM (zpNwC)

167 Traye, thanks for the positive advice to OCJ. I can't take another episode of This Shit Life, where you're never going to pass nuke school, and your stupid daughter is going to bring home a junkie.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 07, 2013 04:41 AM (gJ3b4)

168 Oh, I love it when Newt pushes back, too. We just need some smooth talkers, too. A nice variety of FU MSM pushback.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2013 08:36 AM (CzGy/)


Newt is plenty smooth.  I love watching him stick the knife in twenty times in one well crafted sentence and doing it so sweetly, smoothly, and succinctly that the reporter looks like a pole axed steer.  I love it when their shoulders slump and they look down at their laps to gather their thoughts and they get that surprised look on their face when they don't find their gently steaming intestines spooling onto the floor.  Then they look up to find Newt politely waiting for their next move.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 04:43 AM (kXoT0)

169 155 Ditto for me in Ohio.

Posted by: BornLib at August 07, 2013 04:44 AM (zpNwC)

170 @162.  Did he really say that?  Damn.  Between him and Biden there is not a half of brain.

Posted by: Case at August 07, 2013 04:44 AM (o00SF)

171 Traye, thanks for the positive advice to OCJ. I can't take another episode of This Shit Life, where you're never going to pass nuke school, and your stupid daughter is going to bring home a junkie.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 07, 2013 08:41 AM (gJ3b4)

 

I watched This Shit Life when it was a summer replacement for the Hudson Brothers Show.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 04:45 AM (zF6Iw)

172 They did not register their marriages because that would cut off their food stamps and other benefits. How do they know they can get away with this? How do they know they can drive new expensive cars, live in very nice houses, and sport large diamond engagement rings and still get food stamps? I would be terrified.


Posted by: Sherry McEvil


IRS Lifestyle Audit -- aka, "What White Men Fear" is apparently a foreign concept to them.

Posted by: Jean at August 07, 2013 04:47 AM (CMlD4)

173 And I'm tired of deference to other candidates. I would mortgage my house and damned near sell my soul for someone during a debate to just turn to the Dem and say flat out, "you are a fucking liar."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 08:40 AM (zF6Iw)


Oh yeah!  It would be so sweet to hear one of them say, "You know, you are not just a damned liar, you are a bad liar.  Take some pride in your deceit.  And by the way, your tie is ugly and you should dump that ugly botoxed wife of yours and marry that hottie you are banging like a snare dumb."

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 04:50 AM (kXoT0)

174 Monty thread up.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2013 04:50 AM (zF6Iw)

175 I have hired a kid who washed out of Navy nuke school - he had a BS in Physics from a decent school when he enlisted.  He is a professor now.  Your daughter is signing up for the geek equivalent of BUDS.

Posted by: Jean at August 07, 2013 04:51 AM (CMlD4)

176 @170  Did he really say that? Damn. Between him and Biden there is not a half of brain.

Yes, I'm not clever enough to make that up. Check Twitchy, they have it on video.

Posted by: Kim at August 07, 2013 04:54 AM (ICqvM)

177 Actually, I do want that. I want it bad. I voted for Newt in the primary just to reward him for that very behavior--even though I knew he had no shot at the nomination. It was Oklahoma, Perry was out of the race and Newt did not have a chance, but, I still inked in the bubble by his name.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 08:31 AM (kXoT0)

 

I'm with you, Sherry.    The only way    we're ever    going to have a true opposition party is if we have someone in a position of power who is willing to OPPOSE.   That means not accepting the other side's premises, not deferring to their    alleged power or    notoriety, and putting them some fucking knowledge.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 05:07 AM (4df7R)

178 Shorter Powerline: the Benghazi scandal is SCOAMF and his ongoing inability to lead. When Americans pulled the lever for him, they voted for this shit, specifically. But since he is blissfully ignorant of is responsibility, so are they. It's fucking unbelievable-- he walks around with a five iron in his hand, his TV remote close by and a butler serving up beer, and thinks that is leadership. The trappings have become the office itself, in his mind. He is a disgrace to the country, every damn day.

Posted by: MTF at August 07, 2013 05:10 AM (ZuiHO)

179 Fascinating stuff:  "Is this site defunct? First Kevin is gone for months. Then he posts for a few weeks. And now we are back to deafening silence. If Hillbuzz is gone, say so. If not, at least post something regularly to let us readers know what is afoot and that there is more good stuff to come."  http://tinyurl.com/muw4acq

It seems the last time the guy posted an article was June 24, 2013.

Posted by: caustic at August 07, 2013 05:12 AM (/b8+5)

180 >>>He wants the wrong thing. The GOP, if it wants to live long and prosper, needs to abandon the MSM and move to the Internet. Quite frankly, people who suggest things like this don't know a damn thing about voters, candidates, primaries, political parties, or elections. It's so ignorant it's hard to know where to start, but here are a few reminders: (1) More news consumers than not receive their news from "the MSM." Most regular news consumers get it from evening local news broadcasts. After that comes the evening newscasts from the big three (ABC, CBS, NBC). After that comes Fox News. After that comes the four major dailies (USAToday, NYTimes, WaPo, WSJ). After that comes CNN. After that comes the internet as a whole. After that comes MSNBC. You want us to abandon the way most news consumers (a category that highly correlates with likely voters) learn about candidates. That idea is, to borrow a phrase from Aristotle, "fucking retarded." (2) You will never get candidates to "abandon the MSM." You see, candidates -- particularly candidates that are either trailing in the polls or lacking money -- know they need to attract voters and they can do that by getting in the news. How and why did candidates last time like Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich get their surges? Answer: they leveraged earned media. So when you say "the GOP needs to abandon the MSM," my question would be: how do you propose to keep GOP primary candidates out of the news? Because they're not going to want to go for that. (3) It boggles the mind that for a political party experiencing a continuing branding problem, your answer is to retreat. Retreat, I submit, is not a good electoral strategy. That's all for now, but I have to say. That was such a silly comment, I may be back later just to point out its many other deficiencies. It is deeply disappointing to see that kind of observation.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 07, 2013 05:12 AM (KIu83)

181 I'm ok with the RNC pulling out of the network primary debates. With technology today it's possible to produce and run the debates themselves stream them over the internet and then allow the networks to air coverage of them on a tape delay. This would certainly deal with the moderator problem and it's not denying the public access to the debates, they'd be online and would be available to the networks but Republicans would have more control over the situation. I'm not saying that the RNC is capable of producing something of similar quality to the network debates, just that it's possible.

Posted by: Future Illegal Immigrant at August 07, 2013 05:30 AM (IpHh2)

182 And what exactly did these sage voters know,

Posted by: john smallberry at August 07, 2013 05:34 AM (8sqvd)

183

I see GM at the end of a post, I might as well turn on
CNN for ten seconds instead ...

Posted by: I have MS-NBC for that at August 07, 2013 05:35 AM (sq9q3)

184 As for question of evolution this clip from It's Always Sunny... is enough to convince me that science is only accurate until someone smart comes along. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22bo6CKJcJM&feature=player_detailpage Why is a conservative believing in creationism any more ludicrous than a liberal believing in climate change for which the "science" seems to be in question more and more with each passing year?

Posted by: Future Illegal Immigrant at August 07, 2013 05:45 AM (IpHh2)

185 Guess who died! http://goo.gl/SmDwe5

Posted by: Waldo at August 07, 2013 05:59 AM (tCBZk)

186 Posted by: Mr Pink at August 07, 2013 07:25 AM (flYEz) Agree. ANYTHING with a TS/SCI clearance is a license to print money on the outside. I've been told (don't have one myself, so this may be apocryphal) that when friends were offered jobs they had no idea how to do, they were told "don't worry, we'll train you". The companies (contractors, of course) just wanted the free clearance, since those cost bookoo bucks. This is why Snowden got the IT job after being a security guard, BTW. Anyway, if her heart's set on Navy, she should look at other fields. The money for Nuke enlistment and reenlistment is out of this world, but you earn it - and she may have to pay some back if she washes out (a very nontrivial possibility, this is still Rickover's "Why Not The Best" Nuclear Navy) and be forced to go into a conventional field she may not like. I passed on Nuke for electronics myself back in the day. I didn't want any part of that level of effort required. FCCS(SW/AW) Jeff Weimer, USN (ret)

Posted by: Trelawney Hope at August 07, 2013 06:09 AM (xaCBT)

187 186 True, to get you have to give. The smartest people I have ever know were the Nukes I served with, all would have breezed through conventional schools, except they all would have flunked out due to partying because the academics would have been too trivial.

Posted by: traye at August 07, 2013 06:34 AM (cWHVZ)

188

180 -

 

For someone who is trying to tell people how to better communicate, you are awfully bad at it. 

 

I could explain how and why, but frankly you're about useless, so I'm not going to bother. 

Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2013 06:35 AM (TOk1P)

189 For young people going into the military who want training and experience for a civilian job might want to take a peek at Environmental Engineering. They test air and water. It's my understanding it's good money in the civilian world.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at August 07, 2013 07:42 AM (GgPam)

 

Screw that. Do you really want to tell your grandkids years from now that you were in the 3rd Environmental Engineering Brigade? Seriously? Go Infantry, which has no civilian equivalent, because you don't give a shit about valuable training and experience on the outside. You just want to serve your country.

Posted by: troyriser at August 07, 2013 08:28 AM (V9ol4)

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