September 11, 2013

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— Gabriel Malor

Damn. I can't believe it's been so long. I found myself watching this last night. I do still miss him, by the way. Guh.

Elliott Spitzer and Anthony Weiner lost. Awesome. Honestly, I'd given up hope for that crappy town. Oh, and here's a photo of Weiner going out with a bang (SFW, I swear). Okay, I'm still not holding my breath. Whatever. I don't have to live there. ... I live in D.C. ... Crep.

For Colorado recall developments, see our own poll guy.

I've really got nothing else today. Just. Watch the replays. I don't know if they're gonna switch to it this morning, but for the past 11 years, MSNBC (I know, right?) ran their exact fed from that morning. Fox and CNN have moved on to other things. But I've watched MSNBC's 9/11/01 feed for most of these years and you should really switch over and see it if you can. It's unbelievable. Just unbelievable.

If they don't show it this year, watch the first 10 minutes of this video. We didn't know anything when it happened. Nothing. It's actually really hard to watch because they didn't know anything of what was coming when it started. And, of course, we do. I just think people forget. Watch the first 10 minutes. Don't skip, don't move to the parts you know. Just watch 10 minutes. Guh. They knew nothing.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 03:20 AM | Comments (229)
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1 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Wednesday, September 11, 2013.  On this day in 2001 the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were attacked by terrorists.  Another  attack was foiled by the passengers when they fought back crashing the plane into a PA field.   Never Forget

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:21 AM (zZbNF)

2 Remember 9/11...by helping Al Qaeda in Syria...

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at September 11, 2013 03:21 AM (9jfyN)

3 Before going through the thread today, go down and hit CAC's flaming skull thread.  And recall the MFM said Gun Control would be effectively dead if the recall worked.  It may go dormant for a while but libtards are like mold, they never die.


Of course the DNC only knows one slogan when they lose; "voter suppression".

http://tinyurl.com/q2s5ypy

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:21 AM (zZbNF)

4 Gabe, Good to have you back, and thanks for the morning links.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 11, 2013 03:22 AM (zZJJp)

5 Fox says congress is divided on Syria after the Bamanite man farts through his upper asshole.  Then they quote a few RINOs and some Democrats.  The last numbers I saw showed a massive opposition to military action.  And McShitty and Nancy Boy need to go play in the road, preferably I-95 near DC at 9 am.

http://tinyurl.com/q9uu5pr

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:22 AM (zZbNF)

6 And speaking of liberal memes that never go away, the evidence is overwhelming that AGW is and was a scam but they still tout it.

http://tinyurl.com/nm6mw78

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:22 AM (zZbNF)

7 DAY 308 1,153 to go (1,226 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2013 03:22 AM (WjLUf)

8 Judge "almost" shutdown the NSA spy program in 2009 over illegal acts by the Obamanite administration.  The key question here is "why didn't he"?

http://tinyurl.com/pcsfgg8

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:22 AM (zZbNF)

9 The House has put defunding Obamacare into the temporary spending bill.  The Senate and Pharaoh will ignore it.

http://tinyurl.com/q4o74j4

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:22 AM (zZbNF)

10 Bush may have been "the dumbest Prezzy ever" but he was smart enough to love the nation...

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at September 11, 2013 03:23 AM (9jfyN)

11 Have blacks in NYC decided whites are open game now?  But not to worry, Bloomy will make sure they don't have a big gulp.

http://tinyurl.com/qhdmpxh

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:23 AM (zZbNF)

12 The new consumer protection bureau is spying on private citizens.  I know this is a lost cause but why not simply get rid of it?

http://tinyurl.com/q2e6udt

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:23 AM (zZbNF)

13 The AFL-CIO shows that it never has given a shit about members.  It is about political power and money for the bosses.  They have now opened the door for "non-workers".  So they are just another Democrat front group in more than just name only.  Will their tax exempt status be removed? Hahahhaha

http://tinyurl.com/nqyo8hl

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:23 AM (zZbNF)

14 The House will sell us out on amnesty next week.

http://tinyurl.com/omesawm

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:23 AM (zZbNF)

15 Obamacare causes MI company to lay off 1,000 people.  Multiply that by thousands of companies and you can see why real unemployment is > 20%.

http://tinyurl.com/qfkle7h

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:24 AM (zZbNF)

16 "Pirates 5" delayed after Lone Ranger debacle.  Maybe they could have put a buzzard on Johnny Depp's head for it instead?   Anything 5 is ludicrous.

http://tinyurl.com/nb635kk

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:24 AM (zZbNF)

17 The Krautman doesn't think much of Obama's mouth farts.  The only ones that do are the more liberal papers like the one he writes for.

http://tinyurl.com/nwphfv9

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:24 AM (zZbNF)

18 The DOE is still throwing millions into the "green energy" rat hole.

http://tinyurl.com/nrfkma3

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:24 AM (zZbNF)

19 Politico Blames Everyone But Obama for Syria Debacle, Including the Military


Do you expect anything different from the NYT of the Internet?

http://tinyurl.com/nvnwnf5

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:25 AM (zZbNF)

20 The stupid it burns.  The SC public service commission comes up with a really stupid idea for the Charleston area which has ran out of available 843 numbers.  The answer, longer numbers.  Why not make a new area code?

http://tinyurl.com/ohhw3ah

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:25 AM (zZbNF)

21 I don't know why, but the song "I Shall Be Released" from the Band has significance for me on 9/11. So much so that I only can listen to it once a year, on this day. G-d bless and keep the victims, their families and friends, and please save this country.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2013 03:25 AM (WjLUf)

22 WaTi headline:  A year after Benghazi, where is the justice?


Grieving father is one among many still waiting for answers



It is tied up with Hillary so you will never see it.

http://tinyurl.com/qcu9n6e

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:25 AM (zZbNF)

23 WaEx shows some interesting charts.

http://tinyurl.com/olcculw

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:26 AM (zZbNF)

24 Typical Obamanite commie demonstrates once again why Democrats should never be trusted with the economy.

In a speech to the AFL-CIO's quadrennial convention in Los Angeles Tuesday, newly-installed Labor Secretary Thomas Perez said the nation's high unemployment rate was partly the result of local governments not hiring enough.


http://tinyurl.com/oqtj7hu

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:27 AM (zZbNF)

25 The Foundry looks at who the Syrian rebels are.  As I have been saying all along, there are no "good guys" in Syria.

http://tinyurl.com/ntt68eb

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:27 AM (zZbNF)

26 Kindle Daily Deals

http://tinyurl.com/pabjgzl



That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:28 AM (zZbNF)

27 The good news - Weiner and Spitzer are out. The bad news - Bill de Blasio is in. He is a raging leftist. Before the scandal hit, the Republican, Joe Lhota was not given much of a shot against Weiner or Quinn. Hopefully, he can at least make it a race against de Blasio, if not pull out an upset. Please.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2013 03:29 AM (WjLUf)

28

And eleven years later, the White House is occupied by a malignant popinjay who wants to take the country to war on the side of the 9/11 hijackers

 

Just thought it worth repeating.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 03:31 AM (zF6Iw)

29

Morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes.  No story today, but a question for the Horde:

 

 

At stately Poppins Manor, we have one of those receivers which also records shows, so theyÂ’re all on some sort of internal memory.  I want to transfer some of the content to DVDs so I can both free up space and have copies of the shows for myself.  Mrs. P originally thought she could buy a machine that does that, but now thinks that there isnÂ’t one and that transferring content like that would be illegal.  Any thoughts?

 

 

And with that, hereÂ’s another picture of the lovely Miss Hepburn in My Fair Lady:

 

 

http://tinyurl.com/ndxsgy7

 

 

And since “Puttin’ on the Ritz” was mentioned in the last thread, here’s Clark Gable in 1939s Idiot’s Delight singing the original version:

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij22kyvf2ps

 

 

Hope you all have a wonderful day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 03:32 AM (zF6Iw)

30 28 And eleven years later, the White House is occupied by a malignant popinjay who wants to take the country to war on the side of the 9/11 hijackers Just thought it worth repeating. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 07:31 AM (zF6Iw) Islam and the Left are two sides of the same coin; totalitarianism. Be it of a pseudo-religious nature or totally secular humanist, both believe in paradise on earth by the subjugation of the individual to the state. Death to both for all eternity.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2013 03:33 AM (WjLUf)

31 Good Morning and Congrats to Colorado.

#Remember #Benghazi

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at September 11, 2013 03:34 AM (MnSla)

32 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 07:32 AM (zF6Iw)


You have to get them through your cable provider for a typical add on charge of $10/month.

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:35 AM (zZbNF)

33 29 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 07:32 AM (zF6Iw) MP4 - usually you can transfer things if and only if they are for your own personal use. When I lived in LA, during the pre and primordial intertube days, long before YouTube and Hulu, there was a video store in the Valley called Eddie Brandt's Saturday Night Film something-or-other. Amazing store. They not only had every film you could imagine but they had VHS copies of hundreds of TV movies of the week. The caveat was that they would loan them to you for free when you rented any regular movie from them at the regular price, and that's how they got around the copyright law. Totally legal, or at least no one ever went after them. And they are in the heart of TV land.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2013 03:37 AM (WjLUf)

34

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 07:35 AM (zZbNF)

 

So you mean I call them and they send me the machine?

 

Thanks, Vic.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 03:37 AM (zF6Iw)

35 First 10 minutes: Matt Lauer pointing his almighty finger, "Do we have it? Do we have it? We don't have it. There's a breaking story right now. We'll be back after these messages." Then Katie Couric gets to "break" the story. Been there. Done that. Ain't about to watch NBC rerun. Acknowledged: MSM, they knew nothing, they know nothing. Television personalities posing as if journalists had to have the teleprompter script printed on cue before they could say a word. /And WHO determined the script, same old same old cast of characters, man from uncle.

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 11, 2013 03:38 AM (MhA4j)

36 #9 Mike Lee was on Levin last night talking about the shell game that Cantor and Boehner have developed to give the Repukes and commiecrats cover to cast a vote for defunding GaylordCare, which the Senate will vote down, while passing a CR with it funded. Fucking fucks!

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at September 11, 2013 03:39 AM (uizr/)

37 Looking around the 'net, every still frame capture of the President's recitation last night show the dark, dead eyes of a psychopath. Must have been a bad night for the poor fellow.

There was no laughter in Mudville, the Mighty Casey has struck out.

So who will it be that is sacrificed, who will pay the price for the public humiliation? John Kerry, Vietnam War Veteran and Internationally Acclaimed Negotiator for World Peace? Some little noticed anonymous administration official with knowledge of the situation who is not authorized to speak to the media but does anyway?

Who? Who gets the shaft?

Posted by: Sleepless in Peoria at September 11, 2013 03:40 AM (a+bup)

38 #33 - I take that back. IIRC, I remember that it was supposedly illegal to even record an album onto a cassette tape. Ancient technology but perhaps the process is still illegal. Meh. Fuck Hollywood.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2013 03:41 AM (WjLUf)

39 12 years ago a most unfortunate workplace incident occurred.

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 11, 2013 03:41 AM (AWmfW)

40 37 Who? Who gets the shaft? Posted by: Sleepless in Peoria at September 11, 2013 07:40 AM (a+bup) The American people get the shaft. The ruling class get the gold.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2013 03:42 AM (WjLUf)

41 34 So you mean I call them and they send me the machine?

Thanks, Vic.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 07:37 AM (zF6Iw)


Depends, I am finding that to save money the providers want you to pick it up or send it back (if returning).



But a friend of mine had one of these years ago.  It was prided by the local cable company and would hold 2 or 3 movies depending on how long they were.  But you could output it to a DVD burner (or any kind of recorder).  But you can probably output your cable box straight to a DVD burner.

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:42 AM (zZbNF)

42 As we gather for solemn remembrance on this day, let us recall that it was caused by a failure of understanding.

Posted by: Governor Deval Patrick, (D)ope, MA at September 11, 2013 03:43 AM (zF6Iw)

43 Great news that Client 9 lost. Now does Silda file for divorce?

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at September 11, 2013 03:44 AM (uizr/)

44 38 #33 - I take that back. IIRC, I remember that it was supposedly illegal to even record an album onto a cassette tape.

Ancient technology but perhaps the process is still illegal. Meh. Fuck Hollywood.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2013 07:41 AM (WjLUf)


They claim it is but the courts ruled long ago that as long as any copies you made of the material were for your use only it was considered "fair use".  You just can not make it available to anyone else whether you charge for it or not. 

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:45 AM (zZbNF)

45 PUTIN on the Ritz... Best was Peter Boyle in "Young Frankenstein."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2013 03:46 AM (WjLUf)

46

But you can probably output your cable box straight to a DVD burner.

 

Mrs. P is the electronics whiz, so I will run that by her.  I'd prefer doing it that way, since I've got a lot of TCM silents that I'd hate to lose and would rather have on DVD anyway, in case the cable box gets fried.

Posted by: Governor Deval Patrick, (D)ope, MA at September 11, 2013 03:46 AM (zF6Iw)

47 31. Encore! Obama asks for a Congressional vote of approval. Then without support, he asks to postpone that vote. Rand Paul offers Obama a way out, to cancel the vote. Of course Obama will perpetually postpone his losing vote, but leave it dangling like a raccoon tail from his head. Imo to Congress, and evidently in the world's opinion to the EU and the UN, Obama DESERVES a vote of no confidence. Republicans: Boehner and McConnell deserve votes of no confidence. http://tinyurl.com/pvol4wf ‘Follower McConnell’ Mocked By GOP Opponent ... Kentucky GOP Senate candidate Matt Bevin

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 11, 2013 03:47 AM (MhA4j)

48 Good morning, morons. Today is always a difficult day for me. Never forget.

Posted by: DangerGirl at September 11, 2013 03:48 AM (4Vr+0)

49 My uncle has a DVD burner and one of those cable provided recorders.  He runs the cable storage box through the DVD burner to the  TV.  The DVD burner has pass through.

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:48 AM (zZbNF)

50
This was the best speech Barack Obama has given in a couple of years.

It was well-structured, right to the point, and direct; it anticipated the skeptical viewer’s questions and tried to answer them, and it did so persuasively. In places, it even did so powerfully, especially toward the end, where he made specific appeals to his “friends” on the right and the left to try to see this conflict in contexts that traditionally mattered to each side—the “commitment to America’s military might” to the right, and “belief in freedom and dignity for all people” to the left.

And the sections of the speech that sought to tug at the heartstrings werenÂ’t overwrought. He did nearly as well as he could have done.

Michael Tomasky
The Daily Beast

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2013 03:48 AM (kdS6q)

51 But you can probably output your cable box straight to a DVD burner.
Posted by: Vic

Yes, I do this quite a bit. I have comcast and even record the ondemand feature. Legal? Probably not, but I'm not profiting from it. Just want to record a movie for another time.

Posted by: Bruce at September 11, 2013 03:50 AM (cGaIx)

52

Working nights, I was asleep the morning of 9/11/01. A friend called me to say that the world was ending and to turn on the t.v. Only one plane had hit at that time. I saw the second hit live and thought "Holy shit!"  At that point we knew it wasn't an accident, that something bigger was going on.

I'm old enough that it doesn't seem all that long ago, I just wish some of our democrat compatriots felt the same.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 11, 2013 03:50 AM (lxc0s)

53

Dubya throwing out the first pitch at the World Series:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXuxCqPKflo

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 03:50 AM (zF6Iw)

54 To honor 9/11, people in Virginia will be picking up TRASH today. I am not kidding:

National Day Of Service And Remembrance

Lorton, VA - September 11, 2013

In memorial for September 11, visit Mason Neck State Park in remembrance and help us with a shoreline clean up. Help by volunteering to pick up garbage along the trails and beach to help make the park a more beautiful place. 9:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. Meet at the Visitor Center.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/nacdj74

Posted by: Baldy at September 11, 2013 03:51 AM (tyDFN)

55 The wife and I were driving in to town. Turned on the radio. Man said something about Rush being stuck in a Florida airport, wondered what that was about. Then a report of Mexican refineries being shut - and the skin started prickling. Then the announcer recaps thusly: "The World Trade Centers are gone." That's how we heard the news. Didn't yet know how, but I knew immediately who. "The f-ers really did it!" We turned around back home, where I told our kids, your world just changed forever. Your Pearl Harbor, of sorts. Here come the terrorist wars we had anticipated. Then we spent the day watching the planes hit, the people fall, the towers collapse, over and over. By then it was all done, so to speak. I actually thought, horrible as it was,that's it, the punks shot their wad? It's not the Beginning of anything larger coming? No next wave of assault? Spectacular, but nothing but a sucker punch by a$$holes - hard to explain. Like finding out the Boston bombers were two punk brothers, not a military unit. The world did change - still waiting for the full blooming of the "ultimately for the better" part.

Posted by: mindful webworker remembers vividly at September 11, 2013 03:52 AM (VV7s1)

56 if you are not angry you have forgotten, if you have forgotten shame on you.....NEVER FORGET

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at September 11, 2013 03:52 AM (8JJ6O)

57 Yes, I do this quite a bit. I have comcast and even record the ondemand feature. Legal? Probably not, but I'm not profiting from it. Just want to record a movie for another time.

Posted by: Bruce at September 11, 2013 07:50 AM (cGaIx)


As I said at 45, as long as you are only using it for yourself it is legal.

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 03:53 AM (zZbNF)

58 And today is the biker rally in DC.  I hope they've all yanked the bafflers out of their pipes and travel around the Islamic bastards in first gear all day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 03:53 AM (zF6Iw)

59 The media hammered Dubya for taking a few minutes in that classroom to absorb the news of the attacks.

 But look how long it takes MFM Matt and Katie to get over their shock, to try to comprehend what was happening -- and they had video and multiple eyewitness reports.


Posted by: Die Trying at September 11, 2013 03:54 AM (w7J/R)

60 55 Posted by: Baldy at September 11, 2013 07:51 AM (tyDFN) How about we take OUT the trash? Nuke fucking Medina. And then warn the 1.3 billion heathens that Mecca is next if they don't collectively make the great leap forward out of the Dark Ages, renounce the violence of their "religion" and backwards culture and become human fucking beings.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2013 03:54 AM (WjLUf)

61

The global warming scams must really be paying off for the D.C. pols.  I can think of no other reason they refuse to believe real science.  It also tells me they are not serious about cutting debt.  Just lies, lies and more lies.

 

 

Yeah, its open season on white folks.  Of course the MFM will keep it on the down low.  They don't want to upset their President they helped elect.  twice.

Posted by: Case at September 11, 2013 03:56 AM (VctSv)

62 Congress dubbed today "Patriots Day" Obama dubbed it "Servants Day" Virginia dubbs Patriots to be garbage collectors. And perhaps that is exactly what patriots do, properly collect and DISPOSE of the bad rubbish here at home that pollutes and poisons America. 9/11 Inalienable Rights Day. Never Forget.

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 11, 2013 03:57 AM (MhA4j)

63 9/11 was caused by Slick's dismissive attitude toward security.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at September 11, 2013 03:57 AM (uizr/)

64 As a matter of fact, I'm flying back to NYC tonight. When I booked the reservation, I was surprised by how many seats were still available. I guess people still don't want to fly on 9/11.

In other news, it should be interesting to see what "Operation Crazy Ivan" has in store for us in the next few days.

Posted by: TheEngineer at September 11, 2013 03:58 AM (9PNNC)

65 56 Mindful Webworker,

I was giving a tour at the APG Ordnance Museum walking the boy...

old WW2 vet, he had a RV in the cul de sac on the side...his wife who needed a walker came looking ashen faced...

I watched the TV within five minutes at our quarters and I knew the tower would fall because of Heat and Compression dynamics and the truss system....

anyway she's done...and the nation shrugged...twice.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at September 11, 2013 04:00 AM (9jfyN)

66 Vic: Terrific set of links. You're a reason to get up in the morning.

Posted by: jwb7605 [i](L.I.B.)[/i][/u][/b] at September 11, 2013 04:03 AM (Qxe/p)

67 I think a lot of people have forgotten. 9/11 made little difference in their lives.

Posted by: Bigby's Rope a Dope at September 11, 2013 04:03 AM (3ZtZW)

68 9/11 was caused by Slick's dismissive attitude toward security.

Failing to treat the bombing of the USS Cole--a fucking warship, for fuck's sake--as an act of war was an invitation.

I'm not saying we deserved it--I got in some fights that afternoon (and still do) with the "we deserved this because cultural imperialism/too successful/racist/etc" mewling quims--I'm saying we signaled an unwillingness to fight back that was read loud and clear by every jihadi with access to CNN.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 11, 2013 04:04 AM (/kI1Q)

69 68 Bignby's Rope a Dope,

Well the nice thing about Jihadi Jim is he has a habit of reminding you...

sucks if you get the memo directly.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at September 11, 2013 04:04 AM (9jfyN)

70 Dumb ol' Bush gave that speech off the cuff. No preparation, no teleprompter. Has the piece of shit currently occupying the Whitehouse EVER given a speech like that?

Posted by: blindside at September 11, 2013 04:04 AM (x7g7t)

71 CBS News http://preview.tinyurl.com/n9fghqe
"President Obama on Tuesday night told the American public that the threat of a military strike should stay on the table while the U.S. and its allies take more time to pursue a diplomatic resolution with Assad. "

[in the next breath]
"Sometimes resolutions and statements of condemnation are simply not enough,"

So. is this one of those times when diplomacy isn't enough, or is this one of those times when we should give peace a chance? Can't do both at once. So we'll do diplomacy knowing that it might not work, and we'll have to bomb anyway but at least we tried. You want diplomacy? Ok, we'll try that!


Posted by: Sleepless in Peoria at September 11, 2013 04:05 AM (a+bup)

72 And 12 years later we have a president named Hussein who wants us to get in a war on the side of al qaeda.

Posted by: real joe at September 11, 2013 04:06 AM (5wsCu)

73 anyway...Noted Genius Katie "Gollum" McCouric uses inductive reasoning to grasp.."wow this is on purpose"....

I hate you bitch, and I always will.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at September 11, 2013 04:06 AM (9jfyN)

74 Has the piece of shit currently occupying the Whitehouse EVER given a speech like that? Posted by: blindside at September 11, 2013 08:04 AM (x7g7t) Ahh, err, um, uh ... I have my top people researching that. Top.Men.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at September 11, 2013 04:07 AM (Qxe/p)

75

And yet, here we are.

 

If you had told me - or any of us, I suppose - that in only a few short years, the country would elect, not once, but twice, a man who had been educated by Islamic fundamentalists, who spent formative years being mentored by outright Marxists, who had definitive, provable connections to domestic terrorists and who yet had no paper trail to lay out his background, his travels or even his birth, what would we have said?

 

I submit that, to those with open eyes and ears, the elction of Barack Hussein Obama was predictable.  Recall those lonely voices at first - the Susan Sontags refusing to hang out American flags even on 9/12, the Chrissie Hyndes shrieking, "hit us again!  We deserve it!" and the reflexive bleat of the left - as illustrated by Deval Patrick's nonsense - wondering why they hated us and what we could do to make amends.

 

A quick and targeted strike would have been popular and would have managed to hold a tenuous collection of doves, hawks and appeasers together (where that strike should have been is another question).  But the lengthy conflict we became engaged in in Iraq - especially when filtered through an increasingly predjudiced media and windsock (when not outright treasonous) politicians - allowed the view of the "it's not our fight, this is just a military-industrial complex orgasm" to gain traction.

 

The election of Obama would have happened.  A middle-eastern sounding candidate was the stopgap solution for an America weary of war, lied to by a complicit media and hounded by an undermining, treasonous Democrat party.  "Here, we love you!  Leave us alone now!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 04:08 AM (zF6Iw)

76 Twelve years ago today was our moving day. Two days to load old house, then furniture stored because buyers couldn't close as they were waiting on loan from WTC firm. Finally closed, moved into new house pregnant with one year old and no cable tv for about two weeks, which wasn't such a bad thing. Cried each of about 500 times I had to use a box cutter.

Posted by: Justamom at September 11, 2013 04:08 AM (Sptt8)

77

>>>sucks if you get the memo directly.

 

That'll happen. NYC was the first to forget. DC second. Maybe when European capitals are burning at the same time as our cities.... nah. Nothing will wake these idiots up.

Posted by: Bigby's Rope a Dope at September 11, 2013 04:10 AM (3ZtZW)

78 I started life out with a 4 digit phone number. For long distance calls even by the time I got out of the military, I had to dial zero and talk to my wife, who at the time was plugging cords into a switchboard.

Posted by: jwb7605 [i](L.I.B.)[/i][/u][/b] at September 11, 2013 04:10 AM (Qxe/p)

79 The JEF may look incompetent on Syria. But his behavior fits his strategy to weaken America abroad.

Posted by: SuaveJav at September 11, 2013 04:11 AM (qQk+U)

80 Mornin' Morons. Hanging my flag at half mast today and weeping sporadically throughout the day.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at September 11, 2013 04:12 AM (EJ/Tn)

81 78 Bigby's Rope a Dope,

MP4 nailed it...we shopuld have seen Ogabe coming...

Look the media has been undermining reality since election 2000 and MP4's right...America tried a hail mary pass..."here we'll elect a Marxian Wahabiist for you we love you leave us alone"

How's that hopey mcchange working out for us?

I suspect Islam will wind up being solved with rifles here in North America

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at September 11, 2013 04:12 AM (9jfyN)

82 This morning 12 years ago, I was parked at a truckstop off 95 in Maryland. The qualcom started went off and there was a message from my dispatcher warning me and others to stay out of NY. He gave reasons that sounded like a bad joke. I turned on the TV and saw what had happened. First thing I did was fuel up the truck. A few minutes later another message came in saying stay out of DC.  The day had gotten worse. I made it around DC and into VA on my way to SC and that's where I finally was able to get a call through to my wife. They thought I was still headed into NYC.  Lucky for me, that load had been swapped to another driver late in the night.

The next day in SC was the first time I saw the words "islam = murder". It was on a little dodge dakota pickup. 

It was right then and it's right now.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at September 11, 2013 04:12 AM (MnSla)

83 *pads in on kitsune feet, tails playing cheerfully behind her. She pauses and looks at all of you.*

*She quickly and neatly writes upon a large dry erase board*

http://www.johncoxart.com/2013/09/uterus_of_steel.html

*Shaking her head and with a flicks of golden ears, her emerald eyes do not twinkle. Then she pads off as quietly as she had appeared.*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2013 04:14 AM (CaYl8)

84 83 JoeTheFatMan,

Joe I'm glad you were safe...

I remember the WTC complex in Baltimore having SMG armed security within a three hour period.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at September 11, 2013 04:14 AM (9jfyN)

85

>>>..."here we'll elect a Marxian Wahabiist for you we love you leave us alone"

 

"Here, build a Mosque where the dust of bodies swirled we love you leave us alone"

 

"Look we built a memorial in the shape of your Moon God's crescent! We love you leave us alone"

 

etc

 

Posted by: Bigby's Rope a Dope at September 11, 2013 04:16 AM (3ZtZW)

86 comments going down?

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 04:17 AM (zZbNF)

87 When obama and his ugly wife said that we should perform service on 9/11, service being shilling for the dnc, no doubt, I wanted to puke. What a fucking mess! 12 years later and the asshole in chief wants us to aid jihadis. So, what has the MSM said about the big speech? Are they tongue bathing it?

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 11, 2013 04:17 AM (WdWRd)

88 OK meeting. Useless meetings

Posted by: Bigby's Rope a Dope at September 11, 2013 04:17 AM (3ZtZW)

89 I'm on the mailing lists for many clothing stores.  They generally send 1 a day with various sale enticements.  Today's brought White House/Black Market with a plain, stark white background and the message:  "Our hearts go out to those affected by the events of September 11, 2001.  We will always remember." 

I don't think it's as forgotten as some fear.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 11, 2013 04:18 AM (XB5Ak)

90 *pads in on kitsune feet, tails playing cheerfully behind her. She pauses and looks at all of you.* *She quickly and neatly writes upon a large dry erase board* http://www.johncoxart.com/2013/09/uterus_of_steel.html *Shaking her head and with a flicks of golden ears, her emerald eyes do not twinkle. Then she pads off as quietly as she had appeared.* Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2013 08:14 AM (CaYl ----------------------- So you're a furry, now. We get it, already. Have you come out to your parents?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 11, 2013 04:18 AM (JDIKC)

91 Have a calm and safe day, all.

Posted by: [/i][/s][/b]akula51 at September 11, 2013 04:19 AM (sV/qj)

92

well, I saw this on Drudge last night, another bit of possibly bright news:

 

Norwegian voters weary of eight years under a left-leaning government delivered a landslide victory to a right-leaning coalition, paving the way for the countryÂ’s first Conservative prime minister since 1990.

Posted by: mallfly at September 11, 2013 04:20 AM (jDjlM)

93 Prayers for those who died on 9/11/2001 in NYC, DC & PA. Prayers for those who died on 9/11/2012 in Benghazi Prayers for all who have died on foreign soil with honor. Prayers for this country. NEVER FORGET!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2013 04:20 AM (N/Sup)

94

Thanks, sven, but I'm just a regular moron with no special global / domestic insights.  And it's not like I was Cassandra from the beginning.  But the Culture of Nice (wish I could remember who coined the term) is incapable of the brutal, Carthaginian treatment a death cult like Islam deserves.

 

Look at the posts Ace has made about Islam becoming the de facto state religion of America.  We're simply too "nice" as a nation to believe the worst of others.

 

Except for white, religious conservatives.  They need the Zyklon-B treatment.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 04:21 AM (zF6Iw)

95 In the Washington Post :  http://preview.tinyurl.com/q6q5web

"Much remained unclear Tuesday about how — or even whether — chemical weapons inspections would occur."

The news media has already leaped ahead to the destruction of those chemical weapons.

"“If you can get around the legal and logistical questions, securing the stocks might be relatively easy to achieve. But if you add destruction of the munitions, you have to think in terms of years.”

Yet, all we have at the moment is an offhand remark by World Renowned International Peace Negotiator, John Kerry, US Secretary of State, who served in Vietnam, another remark by Russian President Putin that Syria would relinquish 'control' of those weapons and a brilliant speech by US President Barack Obama, but never mind that, the news media is ahead of the game and focused on the real problem; the destruction of very dangerous chemical weapons in the midst of a civil war in Syria.

Posted by: Sleepless in Peoria at September 11, 2013 04:22 AM (a+bup)

96 61. JJ Sefton, good point, again. Clean House First. Don't leave the megalomaniacs holding the "reset" world war buttons. And protect America from our "ally" the illegitimate Wahhabi al-Qaeda Muslim Brotherhood Islamist Horror House of Saudi Terrorism whose entire premise towards being the Global Caliphate is using the West, the US Government and US Military, to eliminate Saudi opposition, all the while swallowing the USA. Get out of that unholy alliance, America. If any dictator deserved to be impeached from his illegitimately constructed Islamist Throne, that be the Wahhabi House of Saud. America does not NEED Saudi Arabia, Mecca. Make Jobs Not Wars Drill and Built American Pipelines -- into the USA 48 contiguous states from Alaska. Let Canada build/finance its own pipeline to its border into the US NE, or build their own refineries. Secure our Border with Mexico (southside), negotiating pipelines. Negotiate treaties benefiting rather than victimizing US entrepreneurial industry in Mexico: secure American citizen rights to purchase property and conduct business from Mexico, including the right to contract private/public security forces and to bear arms. If the Government of Mexico wants fair trade with the USA, make it fair to US citizen legitimate businesses. If Mexican laborers could work and live well in Mexico, they wouldn't be leaving Mexico looking for greener pastures. Mexico is green. But it is ruled by Oligarchs posing as if aristocrats though just Mexican organized crime at this point. Too much in common with the USA. Everyone clean house. 2013 Inalienable Human Rights

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 11, 2013 04:22 AM (MhA4j)

97 @79 I started life out with a 4 digit phone number.

I had two letters and three numbers. Twenty years ago, we were assaulted by the 10-digit dialing squad, who claimed that we were out of phone numbers in the area code. Now, I only took a couple of math courses, but it's easy to see that seven digits yield 10 million possible combinations, give or take, and there are only half a million persons in the service area. But they would not be argued with.

Ten years later, they admitted they were wrong and "apologized." This did not result in any refunds, demotions, or reductions in the number of digits, but, hey. And so, onward into the future.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 11, 2013 04:22 AM (JNUY4)

98

My work computer won't let me see Anna's link.  But anything marked "Uterus of Steel" demands close investigation.  I've got work cut out for me tonight.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 04:23 AM (zF6Iw)

99 Al Arabiya reports that this is the first time a gun has been fired in parliament, but itÂ’s not the first time a firearm has been drawn.
http://tinyurl.com/opa5vst

Posted by: nanny bloomberg at September 11, 2013 04:23 AM (/b8+5)

100 The day is not forgotten by average citizens. The elites are the ones who want everybody to "move on."

Posted by: real joe at September 11, 2013 04:24 AM (5wsCu)

101 73- We have a President named Hussein, a ground zero mosque and a Million Muslim March on 9-11.





We are a stupid, unserious nation.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 11, 2013 04:24 AM (URNUb)

102 Well, whatever it means, I searched for several large cities in the All For Good database for specifically categorized Sept 11th projects, and found little, though was pleasantly surprised with some of the cities I searched for - events having to do with helping the troops. The other stuff- literacy, healthcare, poverty, litter clean-ups, Personal Branding/Speed Dating Workshop (an actual project for today) - should NOT be done to "honor" the dead. They cheapen the day and make it meaningless.

Posted by: Baldy at September 11, 2013 04:24 AM (tyDFN)

103 We turned on CNBC at work just after the first plane hit and watched the second live. Mark Hanes spent hours off script that morning as the markets didn't open, and remained closed the rest of the week. In acknowledgment of today's anniversary, I exercised my 2nd Amendment right on the way home from work last night. The state of Maryland exercised their ability to infringe that right. In about 14 weeks I may get possession of something that would bring 'Bond, James Bond' to mind.

Posted by: Retread at September 11, 2013 04:25 AM (UyYYt)

104 Heather Radish- I agree about the Cole. I also think that not building a new set of towers within a year was a signal of a weak and supine nation.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 11, 2013 04:25 AM (URNUb)

105

9/11 Day of Service - Personal Branding Workshop Volunteer

Volunteer Position Description:

We are looking for volunteers with a professional background and/or a background in career services to help facilitiate a Personal Branding Workshop. Volunteers will assist in a mock interview "speed dating" activity as well as personal branding workshop, in which clients learn more about how to best present themselves in a job interview.

Program Description:

As part of the 9/11 Day of Service, Met Council will be hosting a special career readiness workshop on the topic of Personal Branding. Being able to brand and/or market one's self effectively is a vital tool used to establish valuable professional connections, and this is often used in a person's "elevator speech". This introduction speech is the point where a person has a couple of minutes maximum to make a positive impression on a person they are meeting for the first time.

Posted by: Baldy at September 11, 2013 04:26 AM (tyDFN)

106 102 Typo DynaMoFo,


I concur which is why Donkey Fan is in for a shock...

I give as little a fuck for their guy as they gave for mine...

and reality will out...

73% of our casualties in 'Ghani are Choom King's....reality IS reality...

A is A

The newsies can only fool fools.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at September 11, 2013 04:26 AM (9jfyN)

107 It looks like De Blasio is the Democratic nominee in the NYC mayoral race. Here is his family celebrating. www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/de-blasio-celebrates-family-smackdown

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 11, 2013 04:27 AM (Y92Nd)

108 Blistering editorial in WSJ about last night's POTUS fiasco.

Posted by: Caliban at September 11, 2013 04:27 AM (DrC22)

109 That is George W Bush's GREATEST moment as potus. Made me cry watching it again. He was always best off-the-cuff and ad-libbing.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 11, 2013 04:27 AM (KL49F)

110 Totally not paying attention to the Colorado results until right now. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2013 04:28 AM (659DL)

111

Dumb ol' Bush could fly F-102 fighter jets.

 

President Wonderful is so smart he thinks we have 57 states and Charleston, SC is on the Gulf coast.

 

Hillary Clinton, (the smartest woman in the world) can insert her whole foot into her mouth while downing a bottle of gin.

 

Joe Biden tied his shoe this morning.

 

And the MFM are not as smart as they think they are, we see right through them.

Posted by: Case at September 11, 2013 04:28 AM (VctSv)

112 Reminder: I have "Huma filing for divorce" on January 14 in the pool. Place your wagers now.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2013 04:29 AM (659DL)

113 I started life out with a 4 digit phone number. ____ We used to have voice-activated dialing. I'd pick up the receiver. The Operator would say, "Number, plee-yayse." I'd recite my buddy Tom's number, "2, 4, 6." Perfect number for a small child's memory! After Operators knew your name, but before dialing.

Posted by: mindful webworker used smoke signals at September 11, 2013 04:29 AM (8KGvR)

114 I don't think it's as forgotten as some fear.
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 11, 2013 08:18 AM


Here on the MA coast, the neighboring town of Gloucester decided -- at least the fire chief and mayor decided -- to ignore the 9/11 anniversary. It's time to move on, yadda yadda yadda....

Our own fire department is still holding a 9/11 service.

Have to agree totally with MP4. We should have known what Choom Boy was all about from his own public reaction on 9/11. His plea for "understanding" the Muzzie terrorists should have been enough (and, I think, would have been enough if not for Dubya's "hey, Muslims are Good People" remarks and tepid response to the attacks and the increasing radicalization of the leftist goons) to doom him to obscurity.

Instead, we have a Muzzie president and are aiding (militarily and financially) and abetting the people whose brothers killed 3000 Americans on that day.

Angry? ME? You're friggin'-A right I am. Angry at the "religion of peace," angry with Congress and Dubya, and angry with those stupid Americans who have delivered our nation to the Muzzie terrorists.

It is, perhaps, a Good Thing that I am not in a position of power. A lot of Americans (and alleged Americans) would be in prison, and much of the Middle East would be uninhabitable for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 11, 2013 04:30 AM (kaGpp)

115 I also think that not building a new set of towers within a year was a signal of a weak and supine nation.

Mark Steyn wrote a good column a few years ago about that...back in the day, if we hadn't rebuilt the towers we'd at least have put up a huge allegorical  monument with eagles and Liberty and Victory and possibly Todd Beamer.


I'd forgotten about the "Day of Service" bullshit.  Might need a Day Of Punching Proggs In The Face.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 11, 2013 04:31 AM (/kI1Q)

116 We used to have voice-activated dialing. Luxury. We had to yell across wolf-infested fields. Kaboom will never truly die here.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2013 04:32 AM (659DL)

117 Testing 1 2 3

Posted by: FUBAR at September 11, 2013 04:33 AM (Cs2tJ)

118 I'm going to a funeral in California, leaving today. (My uncle, a decorated Vietnam vet) I chose to drive instead of fly on Sept. 11. Benghazi only a year old, and 2001 always fresh in my memory. And the jihadists are only empowered by that POS in the WH.

Posted by: small town girl in wyoming at September 11, 2013 04:34 AM (mfutM)

119

Here on the MA coast, the neighboring town of Gloucester decided -- at least the fire chief and mayor decided -- to ignore the 9/11 anniversary. It's time to move on, yadda yadda yadda....

 

Not surprised.  The real Gloucester is dying (with plenty of help from the asinine government fishing regs).  Now it's douchebag hispters and wannabe WASPs who can't afford to live in Magnolia or Manchester.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 04:35 AM (zF6Iw)

120 The stupid it burns. The SC public service commission comes up with a really stupid idea for the Charleston area which has ran out of available 843 numbers. The answer, longer numbers. Why not make a new area code?

Once they started with the whole new area codes and overlays thing, I always wondered why they had to be so many random sets of digits.(234, 443, 571). The previous system had been so orderly, #0# and #1#. Why couldn't they have adopted other uniform sequences instantly recognizable as area codes? Like #2# or ##0?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at September 11, 2013 04:37 AM (QXlbZ)

121

An American President and a malignant toddler:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHz5tevLAw

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 04:37 AM (zF6Iw)

122 I tracked the CO recall last night and this morning I woke up with a boner.

Posted by: FUBAR at September 11, 2013 04:38 AM (Cs2tJ)

123 Thanks for reminding me of Cox & Forkum's old site, Anna Puma.

Go here:

http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/2007_09.html

and scroll down to "Tuesday Morning".


Posted by: delayna at September 11, 2013 04:38 AM (KnC4k)

124 Why couldn't they have adopted other uniform sequences instantly recognizable as area codes? As with all things, there is a Seinfeld episode about the importance of one's area code.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2013 04:39 AM (659DL)

125 I tracked the CO recall last night and this morning I woke up with a boner.  Posted by: FUBAR at September 11, 2013 08:38 AM (Cs2tJ)


If your schadenboner lasts more than four hours remember....it's awesome.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 11, 2013 04:40 AM (JpC1K)

126 That Wiener. Classy to the end.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 11, 2013 04:41 AM (yh0zB)

127 USA Today (which has an affiliate program with tinyurl allowing tinyurl to earn a slight commission on any purchases made by those who are directed to USA Today by tinyurl)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ot2xo72

"Instead of an attack that could weaken Syria's military, particularly its ability to use chemical weapons, negotiations with Assad's government could strengthen the Syrian leader, Leverett and others say."

"Good guys win, Bad Guys lose, Obama Prevails!" - Lewis Prothero, The Voice of London

Posted by: Sleepless in Peoria at September 11, 2013 04:41 AM (a+bup)

128 I tracked the CO recall last night and this morning I woke up with a boner. Meanwhile, Anthony Weiner compares Viagra and Cialis to start the day.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2013 04:41 AM (659DL)

129 If your schadenboner lasts more than four hours remember....it's awesome.

It may last until the weekend. I can only hope.

Posted by: FUBAR at September 11, 2013 04:41 AM (Cs2tJ)

130 #120, MP4

One small correction: Gloucester IS dead, but doesn't know it yet.

Between the lunacy of the city government, the federal gubmint's intrusion into the fishing industry and the foolish moves intended to "remake" the place into a Tourist Destination, might as well bring in the bulldozers.

When I first moved to Rockport 2 1/2 years ago, I found Gloucester picturesque and interesting. Experiencing the collapsing infrastructure and the rampant idiocy of the locals has soured the experience, to put it mildly.

The collapse of a town is sad to see. But it was deserved...no, earned.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 11, 2013 04:43 AM (kaGpp)

131 Vic: Terrific set of links. You're a reason to get up in the morning.

Posted by: jwb7605 (L.I.B.) at September 11, 2013 08:03 AM (Qxe/p)


Same from here Vic:  Thank you so much for the links.

Posted by: Forty Baht Barry at September 11, 2013 04:45 AM (e/0bE)

132 The collapse of a town is sad to see. But it was deserved...no, earned. Yep. Taken to the next level, though we mock California for its somewhere between slow-motion and real-time collapse, it takes concerted lefty effort over many decades to destroy something good. I hope they have pride of ownership.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2013 04:46 AM (659DL)

133 Mark Steyn: From ‘Let's roll' to 'Let's roll over'

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/roll-316321-let-mark.html

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 11, 2013 04:46 AM (/kI1Q)

134 Did Spitzer lose to the hooker?

Posted by: Jean at September 11, 2013 04:46 AM (CMlD4)

135 85
Miguel - Sven
Thank the guy that got my original load. Sad, I don't even remember his name.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at September 11, 2013 04:46 AM (MnSla)

136 It's Bashar al-Assad's birthday, just learned that on the doc thompson show.

Posted by: nanny bloomberg at September 11, 2013 04:47 AM (/b8+5)

137 If it wasn't for the insurance industry and federal largess the entire State of MA would have collapsed long ago.

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 04:48 AM (zZbNF)

138 I was looking at the official 9/11 Day Lesson Plans... For grades 3-5, it is bout what Michelle calls "food deserts," though the phrase isn't used. It is called the Giving Garden (PDF) http://www.911day.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Giving-Garden-Final-13.pdf

Another set of lesson plans teaches us how 9/11 is all about how great diversity is...

Posted by: Baldy at September 11, 2013 04:49 AM (tyDFN)

139 Think Im'ma going down to liberal town to play a little 'Knockout'. Until I feel better.

Posted by: JQP at September 11, 2013 04:49 AM (U4GjV)

140 Today is the anniversary of the death of the Father of Pakistan.

Posted by: Baldy at September 11, 2013 04:49 AM (tyDFN)

141 Re: CO recalls. Dems outspent the pro-recall side by nearly 10:1. Now the losers are whining about having their vote suppressed.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2013 04:49 AM (N/Sup)

142

Boy, this is shaping up to be a cheery day, isn't it?

 

Here's a picture of Elizabeth Taylor from 1957.  Scrumptious:

 

http://tinyurl.com/q4jfdsf


 

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 04:50 AM (zF6Iw)

143 They just showed Cuomo/Christie that dynamic duo, together at the 9/11 ceremonies

Posted by: nanny bloomberg at September 11, 2013 04:51 AM (/b8+5)

144 MP4

I always get this way on this date. 

It seems I'll never get over it. I'll never get over the army telling me I was too "old" either. But I delivered steel to many a munitions plant afterwards.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at September 11, 2013 04:53 AM (MnSla)

145 I am watching the video, thanks Gabe. I remember I had just gotten out of the shower and my mother told me that a plane hit the World Trade Center. I put the television on in my room and saw the second one hit the other tower. I remember how it circled the center then went in to hit it. I canÂ’t remember which network I had on, maybe Today Show or GMA.

Posted by: CarolT at September 11, 2013 04:54 AM (z4WKX)

146 Kept late today, but thanks MP4, for another pic. Back to read the post...

Posted by: Anthony L. at September 11, 2013 04:54 AM (bl6Iq)

147 After a long and dignified battle, my kitty Bella is going to be euthanized today. I waited until my wife went to work to call the Vet, now I'm waiting for a call back. I've never done anything like this without talking to wife about the details, but this one has just been too draining on her, I'll tell her after it's done.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 11, 2013 04:55 AM (ZshNr)

148 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 08:50 AM (zF6Iw)\



better pic


http://tinyurl.com/njrmrhh



back when I was younger I always wondered what all the hoopla about her was.  I was used to seeing her on a small screen BandW TV





Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 04:55 AM (zZbNF)

149 Lincolntf @ 148 Prayers & thoughts.

Posted by: Gran at September 11, 2013 04:57 AM (mw0FO)

150 Thank you.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 11, 2013 04:59 AM (ZshNr)

151 It's Bashar al-Assad's birthday, just learned that on the doc thompson show. 100th Birthday for Bear Bryant. His You Tube clips could still outcoach some.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2013 04:59 AM (659DL)

152 Here's a picture of Elizabeth Taylor from 1957. Scrumptious:

--

Stunning, MPPP.  My favorite "look" for her was in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.  Simply gorgeous.  That white dress contrasting with her black hair and milky white complexion.  Perfection. 

/a chick's opinion

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 11, 2013 05:00 AM (XB5Ak)

153 Re: CO recalls. Democrat edge in state Senate votes from 20-15 to now a scant 18-17 edge. And we still have the hi-capacity magazine ban. But it sends a strong message. We still have some shades of red in this state.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2013 05:00 AM (N/Sup)

154 I was at work on the morning of September 11, 2001, scrambling to make a deadline, when the motherly temp we had at the time walked in with a dazed expression on her face and said that an airplane had hit the WTC. I couldn't get on the internet so I went to the cafeteria and watched the TV, where I saw the second plane hit and knew that my world had changed irrevocably.

Posted by: joncelli at September 11, 2013 05:01 AM (RD7QR)

155

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 11, 2013 08:55 AM (ZshNr)

 

So sorry.  Prayers and good wishes.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 05:01 AM (SjUPQ)

156 I'm so sorry, Lincolntf.  My thoughts are with you.  Losing a dear pet is so very hard. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 11, 2013 05:01 AM (XB5Ak)

157 I believe that liberals celebrated 9/11 in the same way the Moslems did.  Maybe not as openly, but in their hearts.

For decades, liberals told us that America was too big, that we needed to be taken down a peg, that we needed a punch in the nose.

Here comes 9/11 and the Moslems did what they were dreaming about.  Remember one of the first reactions from the Media?  "Ask yourself why they hate us."  NOT "Animals that ought to be exterminated" but "Let's look at their grievances."

And Moslems have been the most favored religion by the left ever since.  The left admires the Moslems and will do anything it can to protect and nurture them.


Posted by: Null at September 11, 2013 05:02 AM (xjpRj)

158 After a long and dignified battle, my kitty Bella is going to be euthanized today.

Oh, so sorry.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 11, 2013 05:02 AM (/kI1Q)

159 9/11 was caused by Slick's dismissive attitude toward security.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at September 11, 2013 07:57 AM (uizr/)





I remember reading an article in National Review towards the end of Slick's last term about that and they wrote, Someone will have to eventually pay the butcher's bill for how bad Clinton has been towards national security. Unfortunately that happened

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2013 05:02 AM (1Jaio)

160 CNN, keeping track of Obama's things to do next list, having made a check mark in the 'give speech' box  : http://preview.tinyurl.com/puxr4q8

Russian President Vladimir Putin says that has to change. "You can't really ask Syria, or any other country, to disarm unilaterally while military action against it is being contemplated," Putin said in an interview with a Russian television network.

This is in reaction to Obama's suggestion that should diplomacy fail (how could it?) military action would be required. So .. to recap....Obama put down a 'Red Line Ultimatum", and when it was pointed out that the Red Line Ultimatum had been tested and that something must be done. well, hell you know the dance...so if diplomacy fails, President Obama seems to have appended another ultimatum to his list of things that Syria must do if there is to be world peace.

If one ultimatum does not achieve the desired results, issue another one.

Posted by: Sleepless in Peoria at September 11, 2013 05:03 AM (a+bup)

161 IÂ’m sorry about Bella lincolntf. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at September 11, 2013 05:03 AM (z4WKX)

162 152 It's Bashar al-Assad's birthday, just learned that on the doc thompson show. So it is! I missed that one. Then again, it's also the birthday of one of the Columbine shooters. Some just aren't worth remembering.

Posted by: Gran at September 11, 2013 05:03 AM (mw0FO)

163 Spitzer will run again for some office. He can't let it go. Weiner may have no choice. He needs to get a restraining order against Leathers or she will keep showing up where ever he is. She has nothing going for her except him and a porn career where she had already had an hiv scare.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 11, 2013 05:04 AM (WdWRd)

164 I believe that liberals celebrated 9/11 in the same way the Moslems did. Maybe not as openly, but in their hearts.


That, and the fact that it happened on W's watch. The left never, ever forgave him for beating Gore, and I trace the rise of Barky and the left in the past 10 years at least partly to the results of the 2000 election.

Posted by: joncelli at September 11, 2013 05:04 AM (RD7QR)

165

DENVER (AP) — Two Democratic state lawmakers who backed tighter gun laws in the aftermath of mass shootings have been kicked out of office in a recall election promoted by both grassroots activists and the National Rifle Association.

Senate President John Morse lost by just 343 votes Tuesday in a swing district in the Republican stronghold of Colorado Springs but Sen. Angela Giron lost by a bigger margin in a largely blue-collar district that favors Democrats.

"The loss of this senate seat is purely symbolic," Morse said.




Funny how it's symbolic when they lose but a meaning victory for their message when they win

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2013 05:05 AM (1Jaio)

166 Eternal rest grant unto them, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them. May the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace. Amen.

Posted by: caustic at September 11, 2013 05:05 AM (/b8+5)

167 Thank you all. She's not in any pain, but is 95% paralyzed. I've been feeding her with a syringe, but she can't swallow anymore. She's a beautiful cat, I'll have to post a link to a pic of her somehow.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 11, 2013 05:06 AM (ZshNr)

168  Obama's mentor and minister  rev wright response.
chickens coming home to roost.

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2013 05:06 AM (nqBYe)

169 Don't know if it has been mentioned. CO recalled two gun control democrats, one the President of the State Senate! Fuck you Bloomy!

Posted by: John Smith at September 11, 2013 05:06 AM (wR+pz)

170 >>> wannabe WASPs who can't afford to live in Magnolia or Manchester. **ahem** That's "Manchester by the Sea"

Posted by: fluffy at September 11, 2013 05:07 AM (z9HTb)

171 Those Colorado results are weird.

In that article about Barky which Ace linked to yesterday, TNR expended pixels on throwaway snark about how Congress couldn't even pass a gun control bill supposedly supported by a "crushing majority of the American people".

*taps chin*

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 11, 2013 05:08 AM (uYaYO)

172 Lincolntf, I'm so sorry to hear about Bella. It's a tough thing to go through. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 11, 2013 05:08 AM (bCEmE)

173 We must also engage, however, in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness. The essence of this tragedy, it seems to me, derives from a fundamental absence of empathy on the part of the attackers: an inability to imagine, or connect with, the humanity and suffering of others. Such a failure of empathy, such numbness to the pain of a child or the desperation of a parent, is not innate; nor, history tells us, is it unique to a particular culture, religion, or ethnicity. It may find expression in a particular brand of violence, and may be channeled by particular demagogues or fanatics. Most often, though, it grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair.
We will have to make sure, despite our rage, that any U.S. military action takes into account the lives of innocent civilians abroad. We will have to be unwavering in opposing bigotry or discrimination directed against neighbors and friends of Middle Eastern descent. Finally, we will have to devote far more attention to the monumental task of raising the hopes and prospects of embittered children across the globe—children not just in the Middle East, but also in Africa, Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe and within our own shores.

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2013 05:09 AM (nqBYe)

174

I got nothing good to say about New Yorkers, and therefore shall say nothing.

Posted by: maddogg at September 11, 2013 05:10 AM (xWW96)

175 **ahem**

That's "Manchester by the Sea"

Posted by: fluffy at September 11, 2013 09:07 AM (z9HTb)

 

"Ahem" yourself,  fluffy. :-)

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 05:11 AM (zF6Iw)

176

Most often, though, it grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance,
helplessness and despair.
----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----

But in this case the second wealthiest family in Saudi Arabia and loads of western-educated visa overstayers.   

Posted by: Beagle at September 11, 2013 05:11 AM (sOtz/)

177 9-11-2013:

Obama shows up flexing his muscles.  Unlike last year, I feel more secure already.  He is the lightworker.

Posted by: Fritz at September 11, 2013 05:12 AM (4u+Q5)

178 Today, I have a few questions about the robot planes George Bush flew into the towers 12 years ago, and the cruise missile that hit the pentagon, and the mysteries of the destruction of building #7, and the CIA demolition explosives that were planted after they assassinated all the janitors and cleaning staff.

Also, punch me in the mouth until I have no teeth, because I inspired a small but annoying army of assholes from mothers' basements with that drivel.

Posted by: Alex Jones at September 11, 2013 05:12 AM (3kf8y)

179 Failure of empathy?!?


The following link is a public service announcment.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/stroke/DS00150/DSECTION=symptoms

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 11, 2013 05:13 AM (/kI1Q)

180 i wonder if assisting al qaeda in toppling syria raises hopes.
Obama's work  towards hoe and change.

egyptians didn't seem to enjoy their MB.
Libya doing swell.

anyway ..why was libya yemen, egypt a mostly silent assist from Obama.
while syria seems to be a loud proclamation  of similarity.

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2013 05:14 AM (nqBYe)

181 I was doing weapons system checks on F/A-18 aircraft as part of the planned maintenance schedule, release checks are done every week. Although we did not know this at the time, by noon that day they would all be loaded with live weapons.


I went into the shop to get something and they told me about the first hit, and I thought "what a tragedy." I went back in about a half hour later and they told me about the second one. I told them "We're under attack, boys. We're at war." No one wanted to believe me.


The call came in about 5 minutes later to release check all the other aircraft that had not been on the release check schedule for that day, and the ordies followed right behind us with weapons skids. It is the first...and I pray the last...time I have ever seen live weapons loaded on aircraft sitting on the flight line rather than at the hot pad at NAS Oceana. Up and down the flight line, Hornets as far as you could see, all with warshots on the wingtips. The Tomcat side was loaded as well.


and the silence...that eerie silence...absolutely nothing in the air...


By that evening half of our aircraft were onboard USS George Washington (CVN-73) enroute to NYC.


FWIW, the Cole was in our battle group when she was hit. She was fueling up to go through the canal and join up with us in the Med.


Fuck all of those bastards. My idea of paradise will be feeding the fire that they are burning in.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 11, 2013 05:15 AM (yh0zB)

182 We took the Ground Zero tour this summer. I really hadn't wanted to go because the whole thing makes me so angry. Our tour guides were a man who had worked in the Engineering section for WTC and lost 85 of his 110 coworkers that day and a woman who was working in one of the buildings adjacent to the twin towers when they were hit. Their stories were amazing. I can't repeat what they told us without crying. The woman told of how everyone tried to assist others that day. People poured out of businesses and residences offering shelter, phones, water or just a place to use the bathroom and to rest. She said "I've lived and worked in New York all my life" and that this was the New York she always new that they could be. The people who planned 9/11 are pieces of s%*t. The Americans who responded and tried to help others however - that's what I hope I never forget. Something like one in every five people who died that day were first responders all trying to save someone else. Hundreds of fireefighters, over sixty cops, building engineers, paramedics all fighting to save life. Another example of "not all cultures are equal" and "not all cultures are equally worthy of respect and preservation." And yes, left wing douchebags - I have taken care to teach my children that.

Posted by: Jade Sea at September 11, 2013 05:16 AM (KiaVU)

183 After a long and dignified battle, my kitty Bella is going to be euthanized today.

Oh, so sorry.
Posted by: HeatherRadish
----------------

Heather - I have been through that twice, and now have a fourteen year old.. There is nothing that can be said that diminishes the grief. It is the price we pay for all the years of their affection.

My thoughts are with you.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 11, 2013 05:16 AM (aDwsi)

184 Beagle , yes.

and if one wants to complain of the poverty especially of these Oil/Gas  rich  countries . wouldn't one complain to the Kings and Queens?

they don't have to have poverty  The countries leaders keep them there.
the world buys their goods they  are responsible for lack of good use of funds  it is their issue of  self poverty not everyone elses.

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2013 05:17 AM (nqBYe)

185

Finally,
we will have to devote far more attention to the monumental task of
raising the hopes and prospects of embittered children across the
globe—children not just in the Middle East, but also in Africa, Asia,
Latin America, Eastern Europe and within our own shores.

 

Willow, you're a lovely woman, so I say this without any trace of snark:  why is it the role of the United States to raise "the hopes and prospects of embittered children?"  Or, rather, why should it fall to us rather than to those childrens' nations?

 

I understand, in a vague "HOPE ship" way, that a benevolent US presence in the world can lead people to think that perhaps the Great Satan is not all that.  Yet we've funded, with food and money, regimes that have been hostile to us for years with no result (NoKo being one example).  When do we say that enough foreign aid to ungrateful / hostile nations is enough?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 05:17 AM (zF6Iw)

186 29 .... No story today, but a question for the Horde:


I haven't messed with the bluray burners, but have had some success with a regular DVD burner with a few caveats. 


1. You have to set the output of your cable box to 480i.  HD input isn't supported on any of the DVD burners I've used, but maybe bluray burners are different.

2. It used to be almost impossible to get a DVD burner with HDMI or component inputs.  My box won't output the widescreen bit on the S-video out so it's very possible you'll be stuck with a letterbox recording instead of a widescreen recording.  I did find an old panasonic DVD burner on ebay with component in, so I send the 480i input into that and then daisy chain that to a more recent burner so it burns with the widescreen bit. 

3. The 480i recordings look pretty good, the only problem is darker shows look crappy.

Posted by: lymond at September 11, 2013 05:17 AM (fzxq4)

187 Good morning!

Any word on how many muzzies have gotten curb stomped by bikers in DC yet?

Posted by: EC at September 11, 2013 05:17 AM (GQ8sn)

188 95. MP4: ... about Islam becoming the de facto state religion of America. We're simply too "nice" as a nation to believe the worst of others. Except for white, religious conservatives. They need the Zyklon-B treatment. -- True observation. Too many Americans "love" ignorance. Not innately, as curiosity and problem solving represent the American spirit. But when the children are brainwashed and grow into adults with their own children, all the more reason to uphold logic. "Let the children come unto me, for of such is the Kingdom of Heaven." Truth of Love: take care what you choose to worship. Gimme Americans are boring/bored. No hill worth dying on...meh mentality. Mine, mine, mine, get out of my way. Having spent entire lives focused entirely on the "meh" me, accumulating on behalf of me, life being me being the center of meaning, cutting all ties with heritage. If not from the exotic "other" fabricated illusions, then assess one's own heritage to be "bad". Identifying with the unknown leaves one's own essence in that black hole of naivety. Too many people prefer to be lazy than to obligate themselves to exerting effort. Lazy is "nice". Trusting corruption is "nice". Going along to get along is "nice" when you sell yourself into bondage. In response to "nice"? Even the murderous self-righteous Saul of Tarsus on his quest to kill the Christian movement, when thrown from his horse, experienced his life changing epiphany. And the non-Israelite ASSYRIAN King and entire City of Nineveh willingly repented and returned to the Golden Rule norm, much to Jonah's chagrin. /Jonah Whale Obama, demanding that Nineveh be destroyed anyway because they had inconvenienced him./ Remember the public address word of advice that Gaddafi gave Obama along with bundling massive ME Obama '08 (illegal) potus campaign funds. Paraphrase: 'Be respectful to your citizens, regardless of color.' In turn, Nobel Peace Obama sprang very malicious "thanks" on all Libyans. Whatever seems forgotten yet remains. "Father, the sleeper has awakened." Frank Herbert, Dune. Faith through Good Works reaches what seems miraculous. 1776 Declaration of Independence. Idea determines form, inalienable human rights are deep seated in American minds, regardless of ideology. The difference? WHO "gets" inalienable rights vs. who would take them away (as they try "Because I Could"). Highbrow to Lowlifes, no difference in sensation. When any American is taken hostage, you can bet your bottom Dollar that American is going to respond, "You Can't Do This To Me! I have my rights!" ...Granted, money talks power to corruption. To sin is to miss the mark. To repent would be to hit the mark. "Your faith has made you whole. Now go and sin no more." We build on the firm foundation and maintain liberty. http://tinyurl.com/kdmetxm Mother Freedom 21st Century American Renaissance

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 11, 2013 05:18 AM (MhA4j)

189

Unlike some oddball criminals, jihadis helpfully leave 'martyrdom' videos and pages-long fatwas. 

Bin Laden's fatwas from 1996 and 1998 lay out in painstaking detail exactly why the WTC was to be attacked years later.   

 

Not mentioned: poverty, hopelessness, or lacking empathy.  

Posted by: Beagle at September 11, 2013 05:18 AM (sOtz/)

190 Mary Poppins, I was copying Obama's commentary on 9-11

i guess i forgot to name the tfg

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2013 05:18 AM (nqBYe)

191 Mike Hammer---oh, my kittehs are fine.  I was responding to Lincolntf.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 11, 2013 05:19 AM (/kI1Q)

192 "The loss of this senate seat is purely symbolic," Morse said. WHAT IN THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2013 05:19 AM (659DL)

193

The people who planned 9/11 are pieces of s%*t.

 

Now, now, you don't want to be too "rah-rah" and "USA!  USA!"  That's not the true meaning of 9/11.  Isn't that what the WTC media director / curator says?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 05:21 AM (zF6Iw)

194 Mike Lee was on Levin last night talking about the shell game that Cantor and Boehner have developed to give the Repukes and commiecrats cover to cast a vote for defunding GaylordCare, which the Senate will vote down, while passing a CR with it funded. Fucking fucks! Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at September 11, 2013 07:39 AM (uizr/) Thank you Captain Hate. I listened to it after 8, Levin is on here from 7- 10.

Posted by: CarolT at September 11, 2013 05:23 AM (z4WKX)

195 Mornin, all. At this point in my life I may have to make a decision that will impact my life and am seeking the hordes advice.. Beach, or pool? Both?

Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 11, 2013 05:23 AM (pWYv+)

196 but I do remember a lot of "questions" about "bigger implications" of what might come next (from evil USA) with no attitude of retribution, just a bunch of "we have to be very careful" stuff. There was about a ten day span there where the foreing press especially were expecting us to go full-blown medieval. As we should have.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2013 05:23 AM (659DL)

197 WHAT IN THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2013 09:19 AM (659DL)



It means "oh shit we lost...can't let the wingnutz think it was a Big F'n Deal..."

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 11, 2013 05:23 AM (yh0zB)

198 new one

Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 05:23 AM (zZbNF)

199 I was on I44, had just cleared Springfield, MO, we were going to Indiana for my Dad's birthday (13th) and a big surgery he had scheduled (12th). We stopped at a place with a TV and saw the second tower fall. We kept going. Just outside of St. Louis, we heard that every single used cheap car in the city was gone--sold to groups of people banding together to get home after the airport was closed. We kept going. By the time we got to Indiana, gas was $5.00 a gallon. When we got to my folks, my Dad was so sick and in so much pain, I took him to the hospital ER. My Dad was a rock, so when he said the pain was unbearable, I freaked. On the 12th, he was in surgery for 8 hours, so we sat in a hospital waiting room and astched the towers fall again and again. The Dr finally came out said he had removed most of Dad's intestines and gave him 6 months to live. He lasted until July, 2003. I spent a month in NYC as a consultant. My suite at the Hilton overlooked the Towers. I will never forget.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at September 11, 2013 05:23 AM (h6CXW)

200 Lincoln - I mis-posted this to Heather, and so , here it is again

 - I have been through that twice, and now have a fourteen year old.. There is nothing that can be said that diminishes the grief. It is the price we pay for all the years of their affection.

My thoughts are with you.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 11, 2013 05:25 AM (aDwsi)

201 12 years later & I still cannot watch video of planes flying onto the buildings. I just can't. I don't think the horror will ever ease for me.

Posted by: AmericanGypsea at September 11, 2013 05:25 AM (PY5T+)

202 As we should have.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2013 09:23 AM (659DL)



Yep. Should have gone all Viking on them, rape loot pillage and plunder, then walk away from the smoking rubble and say "You fuckers do NOT want us to have to come back here."

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 11, 2013 05:25 AM (yh0zB)

203 188 Good morning! , Any word on how many muzzies have gotten curb stomped by bikers in DC yet? Posted by: EC at September 11, 2013 09:17 AM (GQ8sn I thought the bikers weren't allowed. Did they show anyway?

Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 11, 2013 05:29 AM (NLTDQ)

204

I remember 9-11 completely.  I was watching the local news, later than I normally would have because I had a doctor appointment in the morning.  I was watching the local NBC station and can even remember the anchors of the morning.  At about 5 minutes before 6:00, the local anchor said there was a report of a plane hitting the World Trade Center and he switched to video from New York.  I guess they were bouncing around everywhere - I have no idea whose video it was but it wasn't the GMA stuff linked earlier - because they showed a view from what was, I'm guessing, either across one river in Brooklyn or the other river in New Jersey.  There were two guys talking and one was saying, "It's terrorism."  I said to the TV, "Let's not leap to any conclusions," and maybe a minute later, the second plane hit and I said to no one, "OK, that's terrorism."

 

And now, to my eternal distress, I see more and more women wearing hijab.  To some extent, it's because I live near a large mosque.  (It's the Islamic Center of Seattle, formerly the Idris Mosque, but I guess they changed the name so no one would pay attention to the fact that the place was paid for by Saudis.  Their website used to acknowledge the prince Idris who paid for it.)  Anyway, it's still very disconcerting to see a woman in black, head to toe, not even her eyes showing, trying to sort through some papers with thick red gloves on.  It's very disconcerting to drive by the mosque at noon on Friday and see the men with their pants rolled up over their ankles (Mohammed thought trousers below ankles were vain - go figure).  And it's really disconcerting to see what look like white men with full beards and rolled up trousers because how can a decent American fall for that shit?  (I only mention white men because there are so many African/Arab immigrants at this mosque that I would not be able to tell an American black man from an African immigrant.)  When I see these women in the grocery store, just their faces showing, I always want to treat them as if they were as invisible as they seem to want to be, but I just can't bring myself to be that shitty, even though if this were an Islamic republic, I would be shoved off the sidewalk to walk in the gutters like a good dhimmi.

 

Our poor country, committing suicide.

Posted by: Tonestaple at September 11, 2013 05:31 AM (3yidV)

205 I thought the bikers weren't allowed. Did they show anyway?

Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 11, 2013 09:29 AM (NLTDQ)



LOL!  As if that's going to stop them.  No, they said they were going anyway, permits be damned.

Posted by: EC at September 11, 2013 05:32 AM (GQ8sn)

206 I thought the bikers weren't allowed. Did they show anyway?

Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 11, 2013 09:29 AM (NLTDQ)



DC wouldn't  give them a "drive through permit" which just means they have to stop at red lights and it will take all day and back up traffic.












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Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2013 05:33 AM (zZbNF)

207 LincolnTF,

thoughts and prayers.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at September 11, 2013 05:36 AM (9jfyN)

208 James Lileks' essay on the second anniversary is required reading for me on every 9/11.  The last paragraph gets me every time. 

http://www.lileks.com/bleats/archive/03/0903/091103.html


Posted by: 12 years in; the rest of our lives to go at September 11, 2013 05:38 AM (Xv7f/)

209 Have blacks in NYC decided whites are open game now? But not to worry, Bloomy will make sure they don't have a big gulp.



I could spend two hours and have over 100 links to separate events involving the knock-out game, black-on-white rioting, or other forms of black targeting of white or Asian people, nationwide.

It's not isolated to NYC.  It is an epidemic.  Oddly, I have a (somewhat dated) dataset that I plotted in some software, and it looks like Peoria, Illinois has or had a MAJOR problem with it.

But you don't hear about it.  The guy in Syracuse who had his eye kicked out of his head and died, or the guy riding his bike on Lakeshore Drive in Chicago, or the college kid walking home in Urbana - the ones that live know the truth.

Should you choose to investigate yourself, keep in mind that this topic attracts Nazis like a moth to a flame.  There are plenty of more legitimate sources, but you will need to sift through them and it is disgusting.  If I were to include the blatantly racist sources, I could easily find over 300 events in a very short period of time, going back over a decade.

Posted by: grognard at September 11, 2013 05:38 AM (/29Nl)

210 The essay James Lileks' wrote for the second anniversary is required reading for me on every 9/11.  The last paragraph gets me every time. 

http://www.lileks.com/bleats/archive/03/0903/091103.html

Posted by: 12 years in; mtcmtmail= at September 11, 2013 05:40 AM (Xv7f/)

211 LOL! As if that's going to stop them. No, they said they were going anyway, permits be damned. Posted by: EC at September 11, 2013 09:32 AM (GQ8sn) Figured as much. Awesome.

Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 11, 2013 05:40 AM (NLTDQ)

212 I am still watching the video, now it is up to 48 minutes.

Posted by: CarolT at September 11, 2013 05:44 AM (z4WKX)

213 I can't watch the replays. I was in the office in Fairfax, VA on 9/11, and it was crazy - everyone in my office trying to get ahold of their loved ones in DC (such as spouses in the Secret Service, etc. or in the news biz who had been sent to the f'ing mall to report while the capital was being evacuated). It was chaos just trying to get home to Arlington and make sure friends and loved ones were safe. Then watching the Pentagon burn from my living room (from a high rise). I only watched Flight 93 last year and I was crying through most of it.

Posted by: Robert Reich at September 11, 2013 05:48 AM (ZFdsD)

214 Made it to the part on the NBC replay where they start talking about people in the towers falling to their deaths to avoid the flames and couldn't watch any more. I've watched every other year to the end. However in the last year I saw the film of the bodies falling to the ground, just couldn't watch it the replay this year.
Will never forget, none of it, ever. Don't need the pictures to remember.

Posted by: never enough caffiene at September 11, 2013 05:55 AM (GfBk2)

215 The flags and the spirit are what I remember as much as the event itself.

On the 14th, the wife and I had to drive across Ohio to Pittsburgh to visit the mother-in-law, who was very sick.  We got off the turnpike east of Toledo and just drove across the heartland, listening to the National Prayer Service on the radio.  So genuine and so moving were the hundreds of flags, spontaneous makeshift memorials, and home made signs expressing sadness ... prayer ... fury.

Mass that Sunday was packed, more than Christmas Eve or Easter.

I remember telling my wife, that we now knew what it was like to be alive on December 1941.  A clear enemy.  Unity of purpose aligned behind an inspiring President. No division.

All of it a distant memory now, killed by the hyper-partisan state religion of the Democratic party and the only enduring principle it has -- gimme free sh!t.

Posted by: Joe at September 11, 2013 06:00 AM (Xv7f/)

216 I was at Ft Jackson, SC on a field exercise in the final weeks of Basic Training. I was digging a hasty and foxhole position when the drill sergeants started going around and letting us know what had happened in NYC. At first, I just thought, "meh, drunk pilot" and continued on with the digging. When the second plane hit, that's when we knew that this was no accident. The hit on the Pentagon was hard to imagine. Since we were out on the woods, we had no way of seeing what had happened. Two days later, we road marched back to garrison and finally saw with our own eyes what the rest of the nation has seen over and over again. I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that I would be going to war. Twelve years after I got out of the Army the first time, going through basic training successfully for the second time in my life, and at the age of 32, I knew. April of 2003, I was headed to Iraq. My mom always said I had shitty timing... I will never, ever forget.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 11, 2013 06:01 AM (P7ej2)

217 219 SMFH,

Bless and keep you...

I hope you're well.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at September 11, 2013 06:05 AM (9jfyN)

218 I'm not saying we deserved it--I got in some fights that afternoon (and still do) with the "we deserved this because cultural imperialism/too successful/racist/etc" mewling quims--I'm saying we signaled an unwillingness to fight back that was read loud and clear by every jihadi with access to CNN.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 11, 2013 08:04 AM (/kI1Q)


Oh, that pisses me off. We're on the same side of this Heather, but those people put me in a rage.  "We deserved it".  What utter bullshit.  It didn't happen to 'us' it happened to the 3000+ people who fucking DIED and their families and their friends.  I'm ashamed I don't remember her name, but the youngest victim was an (I believe) infant.  There were toddlers on those planes.  What the fuck did they do to "deserve" being flown into the towers or ground?  What did the kids who lost parents do?  I'd be hard pressed not to punch a motherfucker in the throat who dared claim "we deserved it" to my face.  Suckers of cock, every last one of them.

Posted by: J. Random Dude at September 11, 2013 06:08 AM (72afg)

219 "Now it's douchebag hispters and wannabe WASPs who can't afford to live in Magnolia or Manchester. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2013 08:35 AM"


Nailed it, MP4!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 11, 2013 06:25 AM (knoK7)

220 198. Think again. Going all medieval but missing the mark. We went against ourselves, not only by not retaliating against the 9/11 sponsoring House of Saud, but in legislating neoconservative authoritarianism vs. US Constitutional Governance and Liberty, the anti-constitutional Patriot Act "solution" authorizing DHS/NSA to abuse all powers, first under wraps but now in our faces. Not too late to rectify Wahhabi Mecca, dust to dust. But our current leadership refuse the onus of truth, preferring fraud and authoritarian positions of abusive power. Cleanse Our House/Senate/Oval Office to avert worsening global Wahhabi doom.

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 11, 2013 06:39 AM (MhA4j)

221 Posted by: MegaIndependento at September 11, 2013 09:18 AM (uvaJ1)  --- Is this it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCgE60nfdxw&list=PL95E41297DAD7F2CF

Posted by: Baldy at September 11, 2013 06:42 AM (tyDFN)

222 I will never, ever forget. Posted by: SMFH at it all Go With God and our gratitude

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 11, 2013 06:42 AM (MhA4j)

223 133 The collapse of a town is sad to see. But it was deserved...no, earned.

Yep. Taken to the next level, though we mock California for its somewhere between slow-motion and real-time collapse, it takes concerted lefty effort over many decades to destroy something good. I hope they have pride of ownership.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2013 08:46 AM (659DL)



That would imply self-reflection. Like parasites that kill their hosts, they move on to infest another locale.

Posted by: venus velvet at September 11, 2013 06:45 AM (OrqCR)

224

From Lileks' 09/05/02 Bleat:

"Little Christine was GnatÂ’s age, give or take a month; bin LadenÂ’s lackeys killed her - and did so to ensure that other fathers, mothers, brothers, and sisters died as well, preferably by the tens of thousands. This little girlÂ’s death wasnÂ’t even a comma in the manifesto they hoped to write. They made sure that her last moments alive were filled with horror and blood, screams and fear; they made sure that the last thing she saw was the desperate faces of her parents, insisting that everything was okay, weÂ’re going to see Mickey, holding out a favorite toy with numb hands, making up a happy lie. And then she was fire and then she was ash."

 

My God, I hate them still.

Posted by: Tonestaple at September 11, 2013 06:48 AM (3yidV)

225 LincolnTF, I hope you see this on this dead thread: I know it's hard what you're doing but it's absolutely the right thing. A number of years ago we rescued an Airedale who was the best dog I ever had. Unfortunately Emma had been treated poorly and came as damaged goods. One day she just stopped eating and was wasting away to nothing. The vet talked me into doing exploratory surgery to try and repair what was wrong; I got a call at work that as soon as they put her under her heart stopped. She died among strangers and frightened instead of with her family. I still hate myself for not doing the right thing.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at September 11, 2013 07:21 AM (uizr/)

226 "76 And yet here we are. If you had told me - or any of us, I suppose - that in only a few short years, the country would elect, not once, but twice, a man who had been educated by Islamic fundamentalists, who spent formative years being mentored by outright Marxists, who had definitive, provable connections to domestic terrorists and who yet had no paper trail to lay out his background, his travels or even his birth, what would we have said? Mary Poppins, if you really want to be weirded out, think of this: we are now as far removed from from 9/11/2001 as 9/11 was removed from September of 1989. In 1989 we were only a couple of months away from seeing the fall of the Berlin Wall. We were on the cusp of victory in the Cold War and the dissolution of the Soviet empire. A consideration of what unfolded during each 12 year period truly boggles the mind. The world seemed such a hopeful place in 1989. Now it seems like a twilight has descended over the western world which we will not see dispelled in our lifetimes. Not that we're starving or lack tons of material toys, but a spiritual and moral darkness seems to be enveloping everything. I don't know if the seers of Garabandal are right or wrong, but one wishes that God would directly intervene in our consciences and set us right again. People can take that or leave it, as they wish. In any case, "Love The Lord and do good" as it says in the psalms, come what may. Must step out for a while, but will check back later.

Posted by: Meriadoc at September 11, 2013 07:41 AM (9ek7+)

227 I will never, ever forget.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 11, 2013 10:01 AM (P7ej2)

Thank you.

Posted by: caustic at September 11, 2013 08:26 AM (/b8+5)

228 You drove past the train station.  Usually overnight there were one or two cars, people who stayed in the city for fun or work.  But there were enough cars so that it looked like the weekend amount, people who went in to shop or go to a show or dinner, a lighter scattered amount of cars than the commuting crowd. 

The 9/11 cars in the train station represented those who were never coming home.  Initially we didn't realize that, we thought they'd be rescued, found, saved.  With each passing day we realized that the cars in the train station represented our town's great loss.

Posted by: caustic at September 11, 2013 08:54 AM (/b8+5)

229 I was on my way to Natchitoches Louisiana from East Texas. I heard on the radio of the first strike and figured it was some doctor flying his family on a sightseeing trip. When the second hit came I knew what it was and who it was. An Indian friend told me it was the Saudis and Pakistanis. He about nailed it. He said India would be glad to stomp a hole in Pakistan. Mrs. E and I had tickets to Whidbey Island to see a couple of my young pups initiated as Chief Petty Officers on the 16th. We were unable to fly out of DFW of course. When my wife found me later that day crying in the truck she was shocked. Until that point I was just mad. Today I am damn furious. And hell no I won't ever forget.

Posted by: EROWMER at September 11, 2013 05:20 PM (OONaw)

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