1 Not a fan of ios7.

2 Morning all

3 But the GOP is stupid...

4 Little VIA, who is an Apple Fanboy says it stinks

5 VIA, unbelievably so.

6 Why those morons are scared of a shutdown is beyond me.  Recent polling showed 51% of the population had no problem with it.

7 Self-aggrandizing trolling. Well that's new.

8 In further news, multiple Organizations have filed for a TRO against the state of Maryland concerning their use of the 77R form for gun applications.

Closed door session today in Annapolis.

Things are getting interesting here

9 Who's this monkey pounding his chest ?

10 Cruz didn't say anything that everybody didn't already know. I don't know why everybody's knickers are all in a twist over what he said. And Gabe, I must've missed the part where there was a shutdown and the GOP got blamed for it, etc. You're assuming some outcomes that haven't happened. And leverage for a debt ceiling fight? Hahahaha. Yeah, right.

11

A music video you won't soon forget.  It's by the former lead singer of Kansas, and it's pro-life.  Recommended.   Highly.  This is one of those "culture changes" everyone's clamoring for and this one knocks it out of the park.  Be sure to watch to the very end.

 

http://bit.ly/18bWGGh

12 Vic's alarm fail?

13 I predicted the sun would come up today, and I was right!!

14 How dare the GOP stop sucking Obama's dick!  Outrageous!

15 #6 Remember all the horror stories about Sequestration ZOMGWTFBBQ? And how none of the dire consequences came to pass?

16

Pretty sure the earth is going crack today.  Levin will be on Beck's radio show this morning.

 

 

If you don't listen to Levin or missed him last night, his opening monologue re Obamacare was a masterpiece.  Even the most jaded Obama voter would be convinced to abandon the monstrosity.  Hopefully, the Right Scoop will post it today.  I kept imagining him addressing all the members of Congress and the progtards and RINOs squirming in their seats.

17 TFG says that raising debt ceiling doesn't cause debt to go up.

In other news....raising speed limits doesn't cause speeds to go up either.

18 Morning all. RushBabe - yeah, saw that a day or two ago and it's we'll worth watching. And my Autocorrect just changed your name to FishBone. Heh.

19 Why are we acting like this is a disaster when this is how we all knew it would go?  Isn't the real issue the spinelessness of the senate "conservatives" to stand on principle and to force the democrats to take a difficult vote?

Better to try than to whimper like a simp.  The rest of this is spin and PR ground prep.  The GOP does a shit job arguing for itself because they are scared.  If you want to think that people like Cruz are the unstable outliers, then the reason they are getting attention is because they actually have the balls to go out and do something as opposed to the meek cavalcade of idiots who think they can negotiate their own survival with an enemy that hates them.

People wonder why we don't make any progress.  That's because we have acted like trying is in itself an affront to proper decorum.

20

New Govt in Australia hits the ground running. "Climate Commission" = abolished.  "Climate Change Authority" is next.

 

"Today is a black day in the fight against global warming" Squealed in horror, Senator Christine Milne the senate slag for the greens.

 

Non retards have offered to buy her a waaahmburger and french cries.

 

21 Thanks, Rushbabe. That was beautiful. Crying good tears.

22

Morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes.  IÂ’m not getting sucked into GabeÂ’s tar baby.  Not now.  LetÂ’s go Hollywood. . .

 

 

IÂ’ve never been a fan of Bette Davis, even though sheÂ’s a local girl (born in Lowell, Massachusetts).  SheÂ’s always come across to me as a very cruel, unlikeable woman who, in her later years, deliberately set out to hobble the careers of any actress whom she saw as a threat to herself.*  But there are good stories about her and hereÂ’s one:

 

 

In August of 1955, Davis was shooting Storm Center, a film about a librarian accused of being a Communist.  Although set in New England, the film was shot in Santa Rosa, California; when Columbia set up shop, Davis received a number of letters from local womenÂ’s groups urging her to stop working on the movie, calling it subversive and anti-American.  Davis, however, was sympathetic to the movieÂ’s theme and refused to quit.

 

 

At one point, director Daniel Taradash was shooting a scene where a few children walk along a street.  Their beloved librarian has been has been fired for refusing to pull a book called The Communist Dream off the shelves, and the kids are discussing what communism is.  As the camera tracked past one house, a wild-haired elderly woman came running out and began screaming: “I told you motion-picture people I donÂ’t want you around!  Now you get the hell out of here or IÂ’ll call the police!”

 

 

An aghast Taradash turned to his A.D.  “DidnÂ’t you get permission from all these residents?” he asked, waving a hand to the row of houses.  “You should have given them fifty dollars apiece.”

 

 

“Fifty dollars!” the old woman shrieked.  “YouÂ’re out of your ever-loving mind!  Think that would buy me off?  YouÂ’re crazy, the whole lot of you!  IÂ’m calling the police right now!”

 

 

But just as Taradash and crew were about to leave, the old woman pulled off her wig and laughed.

 

 

It was Bette Davis, hugely amused at the way she had tricked all of them.

 

 

HereÂ’s a studio portrait of a blonde Davis:

 

 

http://tinyurl.com/oc2sx4z

 

 

Hope you all have a wonderful day.  IÂ’m off for a cup of tea and a meeting.  See you later on the dump.

 

 

*most notably Carolyn “Morticia Addams” Jones, who was called “The Beat Bette Davis” early in her film career.

23 Isn't Cruz just predicting that the CR will fail in the Senate? So? It will fail as is, Reid will strip out the defund portion of it, then it goes to conference, then the House Rs stand firm and everyone waits to see who will blink first.
 
Cruz is merely predicting the future. How is that caving?

24 Sure -- Malor said "don't do this because the Republicans will cave." But we all already knew that anyway. "Losing leverage" is a silly consequence -- the Republican *establishment* caves. We know that, so why they should need "leverage" which they do not use anyway because they're busy caving, I can't imagine. Further, I don't want an Obamacare "delay" -- I either want it stopped cold, or carrying on being the disaster that it is. A "delay" is neither of those things, so why seek it. The GOP *establishment* certainly looks stupid -- because it caves. And as far as "hurting our chances" -- yup, the GOP *establishment* chances will be hurt. Good. I personally cannot *wait* to have on the record the votes of the Republican House establishment caving -- so that we can primary them and vote them out. I don't think Malor recognizes what is happening. Conservatives will either 1) change the Republican party, or 2) have a new party. Those are the choices. I'm very satisfied with Cruz's leadership -- please continue Ted Cruz, and please run for President.

25 @20 -- Incontheivable!  An elected official/party doing what it said it would do!

26 DAY 317 1,146 to go (1,217 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

27 But, but... if I don't "upgrade" to iOS 7, I won't be able to download the Duck Dynasty Beard app!

28 It's not over yet, but it's frustrating to see Senate conservatives' Obamacare defunding attempt go exactly the way I predicted. I said don't do this because we know GOP House members don't want a shutdown -- they've been consistent about saying they don't for a month now. I said don't do this because the House will sooner or later (probably sooner) cave and give Obama a clean CR. I said don't do this because it could imperil the sequester cuts. I said don't do this because the GOP will lose leverage for the debt ceiling fight. I said don't do this because it will hurt the fight for an Obamacare delay. I said don't do this because it will make the GOP look stupid. I said don't do this because it could hurt our chances in 2014. ------------------- SHIT FILTER'S FULL.

29 19 -

The simple answer to your question is that some people are concerned about the party alignment in Congress after the 2014 elections.  They worry that the things Republicans are doing now are going to make it difficult for them to hold onto their majority in the House.

The more complicated answer is, of course, they don't really have any conservative principles, so they tend to dislike conservatives when they stand up for conservatism. 

30 It must be defunded HERE and NOW. IF that doesn't work, then on to the next. Everything must be done to slow it, sabotage it or stop it outright. NOW. NOW. NOW. Anyone who hems, haws and hesitates is lying about opposing Obamacare. Primary their asses.

31 Plan B for the GOP is likely the same Plan B that they always have: surrender.

32 Good morning all.

I just wanted to wish a belated happy birthday to the CIA!

http://bit.ly/17KEuTw

33 Where is DrewM for the rebuttal?

34 Levin was en fuego in his opening monologue and he is dead on right.

35 Teh Gabe seems to have a wild hair up his butt about Cruz.

I suppose people can have different reactions to stories, but the insinuation that Cruz is somehow to blame to the Repubs' clusterfuck response to the Prophets of Choom is simple nonsense.

If you actually read what Cruz said, he doesn't seem to be "caving" as much as he is telling Boner to grow a pair for once, a sentiment with which I heartily agree.

I, for one, and heartily sick of all the "politics" bullshit. While the tempo of national collapse inexorably speeds up, the opposition to the traitor in the White House and his co-conspirators is made up of a bunch of fappers who are more concerned with "optics" than law or reality.

36 31 Plan B for the GOP is likely the same Plan B that they always have: surrender. Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 19, 2013 07:23 AM (JxMoP) Plan B is nothing but an abortion. Unfortunately, it won't be Obamacare that gets aborted, but our liberty.

37 More Gabe Finger. Less, the other one.

38 23 Isn't Cruz just predicting that the CR will fail in the Senate? So? It will fail as is, Reid will strip out the defund portion of it, then it goes to conference, then the House Rs stand firm and everyone waits to see who will blink first. Cruz is merely predicting the future. How is that caving? Posted by: GnuBreed at September 19, 2013 07:21 AM (wNF3N) Spot on, GnuBreed. It isn't.

39 Rove is beside himself that the Repubs may actually stand for something. The Architect of 2006 misses all the reasons for the successes of 2010 (well he advised the glorified dog catcher Mike Castle; of course he did) and is still striving to make the GOP indistinguishable from the commiecrats.

40 Michele Bachmann, who has been very quiet of late, was giddy on Cavuto's show yesterday.  She knows the personalities and knows the interactions between the Hosue and Senate, so there must be a "there" there.  Even when Cavute reeled off the possible bad outcomes (like the senate stripping out Zerocare), she refused to be swayed. 

41 Great Hymns of the Faith-"A Mighty Fortress Is on God"-words by Martin Luther. hymn which, by the way is now found in some Catholic hymnals now too. The story http://tinyurl.com/p58je89. I would have included the words on a video but was so blown away by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir version- which doesn't include words- that I chose this video instead. Those Mormons can SING!! :^) God bless 'em. Every denominational tradition provides a variety of gifts in sharing the Gospel. That why I usually enjoy going to other churches when I have an opportunity to do so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G42xwWoUS-0 God, "our helper he amidst the flood of mortal ills prevailing....God's truth abideth still, his kingdom is forever." Grace and peace be with you. (I will be taking a break from the hymns for several days because my schedule won't permit me to be on here in the early morning) if anyone ever wants to share what their favorite hymn is sometime when I'm on here, I will look for a link for it. I like to hear which hymns people enjoy.

42

I personally cannot *wait* to have on the record the votes of the Republican House establishment caving -- so that we can primary them and vote them out.

 

Posted by: Igor at September 19, 2013 07:21 AM (h+aZI)

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I think with this you have identified the main problem. They want to be able to make their symbolic vote so that they can protect themselves and their own phony-baloney jobs. They don't want to be put on the spot and held accountable.

43 The Republicans can't do anything in the Senate.  Even if they had 60 votes they couldn't do anything because the RINOs would form a Gang of X and undercut the conservatives.  This has always been up to the House and the leadership there has already announced they won't use their one card.  So, what was Boehner's point?  He already said that if the Senate killed the CR defunding O-Care he would pass a different one. 

This is Boehner's fault......and people like Gabe.

44 12 Vic's alarm fail?


Yes it did.  Only woke up because today is wifey's "bridge all day" day and her alarm went off.  Good day for me to bow out anyway from the looks of it.




You folks be good and avoid the banhammer.

45 Evil to the Left of me, Stupid to the right.... Here I am, stuck in the middle with you. Gawd Almighty.

46

Levin was en fuego in his opening monologue and he is dead on right.

 

Beyond motivational.  He laid it out in the starkest terms that even the sleepwalking lo fo's could understand.  He has LEADER stamped on his forehead. 

47 Cruz isn't caving, dammit. He's accurately describing the problem, & reminding everyone that the action is still in the House. Defunding Obamacare has always been a matter of THE HOUSE GOP VS. THE DEM SENATE & DEM WHITE HOUSE. That's what the "Power Of The Purse" entails. Dammit, Gabe, pay attention.

48 >> Plan B for the GOP is likely the same Plan B that they always have: surrender. You sure that's not Plan A?

49

Substitute "PRL" (or "minority half of the bipartisan Party-In-Government") for all of the "GOP" references above.  The PRL/PIG wants PlaceboCare (though perhaps not the employer mandate, though they won't even codify the 1-year delay in that in the end), they want 20 million new Rat voters to ensure conservatives never even sniff a majority again, they want soul-crushing debt and deficit spending levels, and even some of those who were TEA Party want to tax, tax, tax "the rich".

 

Who is John Galt?

50 I like Cruz's basic philosophies, but come on people! He's the same kind of N-Dimensional Thinker™ that Obama is. Or rather, they think they are. The Republican Party could do no worse than to fall in love and nominate a man who is the EXACT TEMPLATE of Barack Obama. Governors ONLY, people! Tell every damn Senator to go get a job for a while and then maybe we'll talk.

51

You sure that's not Plan A?

 

Posted by: Andy at September 19, 2013 07:31 AM (0ZQCB)

 

Normally that would be Plan A, but there is a class enemy (shared by the majority half of the PIG) to crush first - US!

52

You sure that's not Plan A?

Posted by: Andy at September 19, 2013 07:31 AM (0ZQCB)

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Normally it is but this time they got shamed into making a token, face-saving effort.

53 How about plan "c"?  Another nice day with temps in the 70s, breeze, clear sky, and porch rocking chair..


and no politics?



Any takers?

54

Ask and you shall receive!  Levin's EPIC monologue. 

 

http://bit.ly/1eTT5lV

55

Governors ONLY, people!

 

Tell every damn Senator to go get a job for a while and then maybe we'll talk.

 

Posted by: Doug Winship at September 19, 2013 07:32 AM (S6I/9)

 

Because the Godfather of PlaceboCare and Chrispie are so fucking good.  Oh wait, Teh SCOAMT wiped the floor with Mittens, and that was done with Chrispie's help.

56 Is this why Gabe's been missing from the podcast? Hard to lecture your audience when they can talk back, hey buddy? Please bring that weak shit to the roundtable. I double dog dare you. All your wonky bullshit about how it just can't be done aside, I want to hear you explain why it shouldn't even be attempted. Dazzle me with your fiscal conservative philosophical stylings.

57 A visual representation of my response to all of this:   http://bit.ly/rKtC6I

Boring repetition of arguments by everyone (including and especially me) are boring.

You know the bukkake theater that occurs whenever there's some horrible gun tragedy?   I mean besides the nightly massacre in Chicago.   Yeah.   That's what this topic has become.


If I'm going to go Atkins, I'll do it voluntarily, m'kay?

58 The McClellan Party.  Let's plot our retreat before the battle. 

59 #43 You ID'd the problem accurately: every time there's a Senate Gang of X it includes Juan McRINO and the GOP takes maximum pipe.

60 How about plan "c"? Another nice day with temps in the 70s, breeze, clear sky, and porch rocking chair..


and no politics?



Any takers?

 

Posted by: Vic at September 19, 2013 07:34

 

 

sounds good to me.

61 >> Defunding Obamacare has always been a matter of THE HOUSE GOP VS. THE DEM SENATE & DEM WHITE HOUSE. Why, it's almost like we expect people in the one part of government where we actually have some power to use it. Like I said (and like Drew keeps pointing out) the delay crowd acts like their preferred outcome just happens without a fight but the defund crowd is all crazypants for even suggesting such a thing. In reality, both will require the House to fight hard, so why not go into it with the ideal outcome (defund) out front and with the one we'd settle for (delay) in your back pocket? Oh, and this is all playing out in public because our "leadership" sucks.

62 Lita Ford is 55?

That might explain why my palm won't stop blinking.

63 *eyes Mr. Malor as he enters* Hm. The dudgeon is high with this one. Look, help me understand this, okay? I mean, just so I can get this down correctly on my scorecard. Brave Sir Johnny and his Merry Men are too scared to do anything, so Ted Cruz--who would like to do something about Obamacare--is a coward. Is that right? Look, I was never any good at math, so maybe someone could help me understand why this doesn't add up. But I hear that my grasp of English is okay. Maybe that's why this all seems a little Orwellian to me.

64 Lita Ford is 55? That might explain why my palm won't stop blinking. Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at September 19, 2013 07:38 AM (Gk3SS) ------------------- Run, Runner!

65 Gabe, Senator Cruz did not cave; he issued a warning to the House GOP: Be ready to fight and fight like hell because just a vote on this and a vote on that followed by "Oh well, we tried" ain't gonna cut it. And you know that.

66 I'm with Vic.

67

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2013 07:20 AM (zF6Iw)

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My strongest memory of Bette Davis is the rambling, incoherent  introduction she gave at the oscars that ran so long, the oscar recipiant didn't have much more time to come to the podium and pick it up and then cut to commercial.

68 Gabe does luv himself some ObamaCare. He's like the last annoying guest at the party who won't take a hint so you have to tell him to turn the lights off when he leaves.

69

 

The entire "defund" movement was more about raising campaign funds than doing anything serious about Obamacare.

 

70 And iOS 7 blows endless parades of chipmunks.

71 >> The McClellan Party. Let's plot our retreat before the battle. Ha! Said something similar on a recent podcast in reference to this same issue. Conservatives to Republicans: "If you're not going to use the party, might we borrow it for a while"?

72 >> Is this why Gabe's been missing from the podcast? No. And he's back tonight. Should be a blast!

73 46 Levin was en fuego in his opening monologue and he is dead on right. Beyond motivational. He laid it out in the starkest terms that even the sleepwalking lo fo's could understand. He has LEADER stamped on his forehead. Posted by: RushBabe at September 19, 2013 07:29 AM (hrIP5) Mr. Malor and anyone who thinks that this is stupid/harmful/waste of time, etc. needs to listen to Levin's opener from last night. 1000 % right on about why we need to stand NOW.

74 Cruz ©ontrol. Never thought someone from (allegedly) the right would be signing up for that program.

75

Normally it is but this time they got shamed into making a token, face-saving effort.

 

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 19, 2013 07:34 AM (JxMoP)

 

You've become far too generous in death, Lee.

76 61 How about plan "c"? Another nice day with temps in the 70s, breeze, clear sky, and porch rocking chair..and no politics?Any takers?  Posted by: Vic at September 19, 2013 07:34 I'm with you, Vic. After a dentist appt with my little princess, I'll come back and have a lemonade with you. Fair earning - mine just might be spiked.

77 Mr. Malor and anyone who thinks that this is stupid/harmful/waste of time, etc. needs to listen to Levin's opener from last night.

I went outside to quickly turn off the radio and he started that rant and I just stood there in shock and awe until the commercial break.

78 From the "Only in New York" desk:

NEW YORK -- A homeless man who went on an anti-Semitic tirade in New York City's Times Square while dressed as Elmo is facing prison time for a plot to extort $2 million from the Girl Scouts.

http://hrld.us/16hCCOf

79

How about plan "c"? Another nice day with temps in the 70s, breeze, clear sky, and porch rocking chair..and no politics?Any takers?

 

Posted by: Vic at September 19, 2013 07:34

 

I've got 80s, humidity and storms lined up for my day as Summer makes one last gasp at Wisconsin.

80 Pontificating pecksniffery, yet again. SIGH. Seriously, is the point to demoralize? What, exactly, IS the "correct" hill to die on? So far, it appears that the issues near and dear to most of the Morons are not worthy enough, so.... Tell us. I used to laugh at the idea that GM was a GOP worker charged with herding the cats here at AoS. Not laughing anymore. Actually, I'm beginning to think he's a DNC plant Moby-ing us into disgruntled inactivity.

81 I changed my mind. Gabe is right. I sent my representatives to Congress to cave to whatever commie bullshit the Democrats want. And their noodle-spined example will be the springboard to get even more GOP candidates who reek of vagina elected, because nothing predicts success like constant failure. And once we have failed our way into majorities in both houses of Congress and the White House, THEN you will witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational conservative juggernaut! Nothing but conservative SCOTUS and federal bench appointees. Blue skies and smooth sailing! And all we have to do to get there... Is give the Democrats everything they want. Now, you tell me how living in a fantasy world where failure is rewarded makes ME the lunatic.

82 That's just the normal inhale/exhale of Florida, steveegg. Alas. Sigh. I miss South Carolina. Lucky ol' Vic. :-)

83 77 Posted by: shredded chi at September 19, 2013 07:49 AM (GKOZH)



How far way from northern SC are you?  I'll hold off on starting and go and pick you up.  I have two rocking chairs.

84 Levin's monologues are better delivered to RINOs & squishes in transcript form. Their fragile sensibilities can't get past his volume to listen to his arguments.

85 That might explain why my palm won't stop blinking.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at September 19, 2013 07:38 AM (Gk3SS)

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Where is Sanctuary?

86 Just across the NC border in VA. A little far, but it gives me time to make the lemonade.

87 53 That sounds real nice Vic. I'm going to give that a try. I certainly have enough books I need to finish.

88 Renew! Renew!

89 That's just the normal inhale/exhale of Florida, steveegg. Alas. Sigh. I miss South Carolina. Lucky ol' Vic. :-)

Posted by: Dr. Todd Ambrosius at September 19, 2013 07:53 AM (Jzrec)

 

But neither you nor Vic get to have the thrill of subzero temeratures or a foot of snow.  Instead, you get year-round road construction.

90 The best way to destroy Obamacare is to implement it good and hard - without any fixes or changes. Make Obamacare cause the maximum amount of pain possible and only allow full repeal as a solution. Throw people in jail for not paying the penalty, have businesses close down, have IPAB deny care. Youll get a popular revolt and repeal.

91 So far I'm loving iOS7. It will take some getting used to but that UI was in dire need of a refresh.

92 Quoting Radel, a former TV news anchor, as the voice of conservatism is a joke.

This is the RINO response to being forced into acting like conservatives.  Rather than taking Cruz at his word and QUESTIONING why DEMOCRATS DON'T WANT TO FUND GOVERNMENT spineless fools try to turn the issue into red on red.

You too Malor.

FOAD. 

93 Yeah.. I'm done on this topic...

Call me when we have a majority in the House & Senate and a Repub prezzy.  Only then can we get rid of Obamacare.  Until then, we can, at best, perhaps defund parts of it for short periods of time (CR's) and must repeat this fight over and over for at least 3 more years - because it is law, no matter how bad a law - and the American people let it happen.

94

Posted by: Revenant at September 19, 2013 07:57 AM (XvYQ

 

Want to bet?  It's all about cutting the subsidy checks to the Flukes of the ObamiNation, and there's enough "pre-funding" to keep that going until everything else collapses at the end of this decade.

95 No one ever expected the Dims to vote for a CR defunding Ocare, what's the hubbub about. Just shut the beast down. And, I live in NoVa - I take a hit - shut it down. And then, implement the debt ceiling, by agency/by month. For the grandchildren!

96 @91

Absolutely the worst strategy.

Once the first check starts rolling out you will never be able to end the program. EVER!!.

The only options are kill it, kill it, kill it and kill it.

Barring that delay it.

Also propose legislation that will remove all ACA exemptions, get every Senator and Congressmen on the record of why they and their staffers are special snow flakes.

97 Defunding Obamacare would be nice but I just want a shutdown, a nice long hard one with lots of lamentations.

98 "Obama is a pathological rationalist, animated by his belief that the truth is usually not black or white but is found in the gray shades in between, and that reasonable people should embrace the seeming contradictions of divergent views to find a sensible way forward." So say the silly boys at Politico Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!! I thought folks could use a laugh this morning

99 So what exactly is the problem with iOS7?

100 That might be, Gran. (I hate all change ever, so I disagree. :-D ) But I think someone summed this up nicely somewhere yesterday. He said he loaded up the home screen, and it looked like Google had crashed into Legoland. This stuff is clearly just not up to my ancient tastes. So get off my lawn. ;-)

101 91 -

You don't really expect it to go like that, do you?

Here's a prediction, a little more bold than anything Gabe would ever try:

3  years from now, your premiums are double/triple what they are now, your access to care is significantly diminished.  Nobody is paying any fines because, how DARE you expect poor people to pay for their own healthcare!

Whatever profit there is to going into healthcare  as a career or business is gone, so you get government drones doing healthcare.

The economy putters along...

And the real kicker? 

The Dem candidate is running on a platform of blaming YOUR Republican Party for making all this goodness happen. 

Come back in September 2016, tell me  if  I'm wrong. 

102 Levin was great last night explaining why you and I are 'extremists' for opposing Obama in any way, shape, or manner. Too bad Republicans in DC don't listen. Actually, it's too bad that Republicans in DC are imbeciles who will only believe what the Democrats and their Fifth Column Palace Guard tell them. Fuck 'em. It's all bullshit.

103 Revenant, but that's not what Obama is doing. He is unilaterally not implementing the painful parts (illegally), and wait for the subsidies to kick in.

104

have IPAB deny care.

 

 

Anecdote time. My mother's friend's mother (in her mid 80s) slipped and fell. She was in some pain, they went to the doctor but the doctor found nothing. A week or so later they went back to the doctor because the pain did not subside; this time the doctor ran an X-ray and found that the woman had broken her collarbone and it hadn't set quite right. Rather than fix it the doctor immobilized it, gave her some pain medication, and sent her on her way. The daughter asked why they didn't fix the bone, the doctor answered, "Because Medicare said they wouldn't pay for it." And to compound the problem, the daughter asked if they could just pay out of their own pocket and the doctor couldn't do that either because if he did, Medicare would drop him.

 

So in a nutshell, the 80-something year old woman got a pain pill because at her age she wasn't worth the money and her doctor was prevented by the government from helping her.

105 Well, it's official- McCain has been published in Pravda:

http://bbc.in/15F0a3Z

106 The House CR had a chance of passing the Senate?


LeDeuce!!!

107 BornLib - To me? It's Change. For the sake of Change. And it's too pink in places. iTunes Radio is nice.

108 So yeah... off to work.

Those of you with nice weather?  Don't want to talk about politics?

It's raining here.  Politics, it is. 

109 And before the scoldery starts for commenters wanting Gabe to "shut up." No. I WANT him to write as much as he wants on the topic. Gabe is the avatar of all that is wrong with the GOP leadership at present. He precisely defines the problem by epitomizing it on a daily basis. If he wasn't here making the case for failure, most of us wouldn't understand the seriousness and urgency of what he proposes the GOP surrender to. Do what you gotta do, Gabe. We'll do what we gotta do.

110

I spent a few hours last night playing with iOS 7.  I rather like it, although at first I wasn't sure about the changes.  Visually it's quite different and some things are shifted around (like the list view in Calendar...it's no longer obvious but instead you have to click on "search" to see it...odd). 

 

However, I'm digging the new Control Center and love how it can be accessed from the lock screen.  The "today" view in Notifications is similarly useful.  And overall things just look more clean. 

 

OTOH the battery life on my iPhone 5 is taking a big hit and I'm trying to figure out why...I've disabled the background app refresh and things, but it's still noticeable.  I'm hoping there's just some bug somewhere in the OS.  The battery life on my 3rd gen iPad doesn't take a noticeable hit though.  However, iOS 7 does seem a bit clunky on the iPad. 

 

It's an overdue evolution as far as I'm concerned.

111 106>>>Well, it's official- McCain has been published in Pravda:

http://bbc.in/15F0a3Z

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I'm back baby!!

112 'sup shitsippers. Sounds to me like the House GOP is just butthurt over Cruz ruining their plan to pass responsibility over to the Senate GOP which has no chance to do anything about Obamacare.

113 @101 I can see why some people don't like it. Steve Jobs was the one really pushing for skeuomorphisms in the software (i.e. making screen elements look like their real counterparts using wood grain textures, etc), and not everyone at Apple was as big a fan of it as he was.

114 Here's a bad idea: Another trillion dollar deficit. Let's recalibrate our ideas about "bad."

115

Anecdote time. My mother's friend's mother (in her mid 80s) slipped and fell. She was in some pain, they went to the doctor but the doctor found nothing. A week or so later they went back to the doctor because the pain did not subside; this time the doctor ran an X-ray and found that the woman had broken her collarbone and it hadn't set quite right. Rather than fix it the doctor immobilized it, gave her some pain medication, and sent her on her way. The daughter asked why they didn't fix the bone, the doctor answered, "Because Medicare said they wouldn't pay for it." And to compound the problem, the daughter asked if they could just pay out of their own pocket and the doctor couldn't do that either because if he did, Medicare would drop him.

 

So in a nutshell, the 80-something year old woman got a pain pill because at her age she wasn't worth the money and her doctor was prevented by the government from helping her.

 

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 19, 2013 08:06 AM (JxMoP)

 

Where have I seen that before?  Oh yes; NICE and Teh SCOAMT's words that one should just take a pain pill.

116

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 19, 2013 08:08 AM (JDIKC)

 

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Agreed, not unlike how Rush Limbaugh said he didn't want all socialists to become extinct, but rather have one of them on every college campus as examples of what not to do.

 

In my opinion, having Gabe is a useful litmus test...if he's against  a particular course of action, then you know that course of action should be done.

117 >>In reality, both will require the House to fight hard, so why not go into it with the ideal outcome (defund) out front and with the one we'd settle for (delay) in your back pocket? There is another ideal outcome which has been obvious for quite some time. Let the Dems own this piece of shit instead of performing a very public kabuki stomping of our feet which will prove exactly nothing. When your opponent is beating himself get the hell out of the way and let him win.

118 hahahaja @ all of you who still read the posts! I go straight to COMMENTS.

119 Cruz & Lee made a convincing case last night on Hannity. I don't see solutions in this post. Perhaps, I just don't care what the GOP thinks anymore. Like many, I'm done with them.

120 As if the GOP was going to fight a way, right? The House planned all along to cave, in fact had done so until they got their arms twisted to actually at least got through the motions of fighting. All this does it let the House bitch about Senate conservatives who've been rightly calling out House squishes for the constant caving. The .house was never going to fight any debt ceiling increase. They were never going to actually defund anything, they still aren't. As if the Republicans wouldn't get blamed for any shutdown anyway as they always, always are...

121 Hopefully, the Right Scoop will post it today. I kept imagining him addressing all the members of Congress and the progtards and RINOs squirming in their seats. Posted by: RushBabe at September 19, 2013 07:15 AM (hrIP5) they are always free the next day, to download, at his website every show

122 Yeah.. I'm done on this topic... Call me when we have a majority in the House Senate and a Repub prezzy. Only then can we get rid of Obamacare. Until then, we can, at best, perhaps defund parts of it for short periods of time (CR's) and must repeat this fight over and over for at least 3 more years - because it is law, no matter how bad a law - and the American people let it happen. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 19, 2013 08:02 AM (AYOav) The GOP won't risk a majority or the Presidency with votes that really push back hard against Socialism. Now it is "Don't do this because we won't be able to keep the House and gain the Senate and WH". Later it will be "Don't do that because we might lose the House Senate, or WH" It boils down to courage and what you really want. The GOP and its minions pretend otherwise, but they are just folks overcome by fear and cynical ambition and delusion.

123 This is not the hill to die on. The next one is. Or maybe one just beyond that one. Or one that we haven't discovered yet.

124

68 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2013 07:20 AM (zF6Iw)

I look forward to your anecdotes. I have been known to repeat them from time to time, especially the "So am I. Mine's bigger than my handbag!" Instant classic.

Do you have them all in one place? A blog? Newsletter?

125 Political prognosticators are no different from race form handicappers, endless reminders of the payout, nary a peep of the loses.

Divining future events; interpretations of the runes scratched on sacred scroll. Only the ordained are allowed.

Mind ye place, plebs.

126

So in a nutshell, the 80-something year old woman got a pain pill because at her age she wasn't worth the money and her doctor was prevented by the government from helping her.

 

Hi there!  How you doin'?

127 How about plan "c"? Another nice day with temps in the 70s, breeze, clear sky, and porch rocking chair..and no politics?Any takers? Posted by: Vic at September 19, 2013 07:34 My Kindle is already fired up, coffee made. Deck. Sun. Kindle.

128

This is not the hill to die on.

 

The next one is. Or maybe one just beyond that one. Or one that we haven't discovered yet.

 

Posted by: blindside at September 19, 2013 08:14 AM (WzWmY)

 

We prefer to die lying on our backs in the valley.

129

Call me when we have a majority in the House Senate and a Repub prezzy. Only then can we get rid of Obamacare.

 

 

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Nothing gets funded in this country without the House agreeing to it.  Nothing.

 

All you need is a House majority.  Obamacare doesn't go anywhere if it isn't funded.  We don't need to own the government...we just need to stand firm.

 

Unfortunately, too many in the GOP are set to preemptively surrender. 

130 #110 Exactly. Lets get this shit on. I want fat boy Rove to get his squishy ass into a studio and debate Levin and let the chips fall where they may. He can bring his whiteboard and any other prop he wants; hell, he can bring the entire Bush family and the remnents of the rotting corpse of Nelson Rockefeller and every other useless country clubber.

131

So what exactly is the problem with iOS7?

 

Apple never lets you customize their interfaces so you're at the mercy of their aesthetic choices. Apple knows best.

132

Hi there! How you doin'?

 

Posted by: Canadian Healthcare at September 19, 2013 08:16 AM (BrQrN)

 

How did I forget about you?  You'll soon be able to trap your subjects on your side of the border as medical tourism ends.

133 7 Low&Slow,

It's like a heaping bowl of Kaboom! for breakfast...

the Morning Gabe wherein a squish tries to do an endzone dance every appearence.

Hey Gabe Boehner's done... Graham is next.

134 People wonder why we don't make any progress. That's because we have acted like trying is in itself an affront to proper decorum. *** I'd argue the Republican leadership is only slightly less leftist then the Democrat one. They don't want to get rid of Obamacare or reduce the size and scope of government. If you presume that is the case, the otherwise inexplicable constant stream of failures makes sense. The Rs don't lose because they constantly find new and interesting ways to fail, but because they don't want to win in the sense of advancing conservative goals.

135 114 Gran - I could take the skeumorphism or leave it. Never really too partisan either way there. I think it really is a style thing. I really can't stand the thin, reedy Helvetia everywhere--and have fixed the size where I can. The flat, styleless icons jar me. I do like the new folders, but think they're not well implemented: Too much dead screen, not enough icons per page, for instance. (They could have gotten it up to 12 per page, at least on my iPad.) It really is all a matter of personal taste. I'm glad there are people out there who find something pleasing in this.

136 Have they come up with the nom de plume for the ObamaCare version of the NHS's Liverpool Care Pathway? You know the one that has even saveable older people starved and dehydrated to death in the name of cost efficiency and resource management? I am utterly disgusted at the current crop of spineless GOP drones....AND their water-carriers.

137 >>Nothing gets funded in this country without the House agreeing to it. Nothing. So Boeher actually runs the country? I did not know that.

138

@94......"because it is law"

 

It's the law for some people, others get a pass.  If it's a real law then everybody needs to enjoy it.

139 So the CR goes to conference, with at least half in good shape. In conference, we give a little, but keep the Obamacare cuts to the marketing funds (just a political slush fund), all the things Obama waived, a few other things, and re-instate the mandate onto Congressional staff. Win-win, right. A least half of the bill going into conference is decent, usually it's two wolves fighting over an unarmed sheep (us).

140 Wonder if those 4 million or so McCain voters in 2008 who stayed home rather than vote for Mitt in 2012 are happy these days? Because purity.

141 So when Cruz point out the obvious, that democrats would rather throw the country into the worst chaos they can produce than de-fund The Affordable Health Care Act, The Gabe Malors spin it for maximum damage to any resistance to the tyranny. What do you get for your treachery Gabe? What are you rewarded with?

142 Look at the big picture. BO wins CR fight. USA economy crashes even more than has already. BO becomes new Herbert Hoover. Politicians want to keep their phony-baloney-jobs. BO is impeached. Senate convicts. Joe Biden becomes the new Jerald Ford. Next president is the new Ronald Wilson Reagan.

143 There is another ideal outcome which has been obvious for quite some time. Let the Dems own this piece of shit instead of performing a very public kabuki stomping of our feet which will prove exactly nothing. When your opponent is beating himself get the hell out of the way and let him win. Posted by: JackStraw at September 19, 2013 08:12 AM (g1DWB) That is a good approach. What has been the GOP action on exemptions in the last three years?

144 For weeks now, I've been at home watching television news. About every hour, I see a phone number to call to support Sen. Cruz and defund Obamacare. Past experience told me that the phone number was really a fund raising ploy. Cruz all but confirms that now, throwing any attempt to defund under the bus. Instead of defunding Obamacare, the Republicans, if they were any more than a bunch of cowardly, dick swallowing whores, would be preaching about the exemptions to the aberration called Obamacare for Congress and its staffs. Even the most die hard liberals (well, at least many of them) would have a difficult time swallowing that. But there is absolute SILENCE on the matter. The people we elected do not give a fuck about us.

145 138 >>Nothing gets funded in this country without the House agreeing to it. Nothing. So Boeher actually runs the country? I did not know that. Posted by: JackStraw at September 19, 2013 08:19 AM (g1DWB) If he channeled Tip ONeil instead of Neville Chamberlin, then yes he could run the country.

146 Ummmm, so we are going to completely crash our healthcare system and a shit ton of jobs will get their hours cut to 28 hours and this is good because the house leadership thinks it'll put out a bad image? Helen Thomas in a thong holding a dildo is a bad image Letting obamacare start up is fiscal suicide

147

Posted by: JackStraw at September 19, 2013 08:19 AM (g1DWB)

 

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Having power and being willing to use power are two different things.

 

Just because Boehnor is unwilling to fight doesn't mean he is powerless.

148 I've been very quiet for months, but lurking.

However, there is a very, very big point that Gabe is missing.

The current situation is:

1) Conservatives screaming "we hate Obamacare, defund it!"
2) Establishment GOP screaming "we hate Obamacare, we want it gone, but if we shut down government that is a disaster!"
3) Democrats stonewalling while even the media starts asking, "Why won't you even negotiate?"
4) The public watching while nothing can be done about legislation they hate.

This means that Obamacare is front and center in the minds of the public during a hugely public pissing contest.  And the average Joe asking, "What is so fucking hard about changing this law that no one likes?"

If we had gone down the Malor road, everything would have been really quiet, no one would have noticed and the GOP base would have just disengaged more.  Meanwhile average Joe just gripes about paying double for healthcare without knowing there is an alternative.

You can't fight for a cause, if no one even knows there IS a cause.

If you think our chances in 2014 are good without having a very public debate and standing for a principle, then you are an idiot.  Without this showdown, the best the GOP could have hoped for in 2014 would be status quo, which was the result of the LAST election.

Sure, the GOP is likely to lose this fight, both on defund and on the debt ceiling.  But if they don't fight, then they won't have any chance of winning in 2014. 

One final point, on what planet are you living on where you think that "shutting down government" will be evaluated by the voters separately from "shutting down Obamacare"?  One goddamn data point from 1997 where "shutting down government" was being evaluated against some vague budgetary issue that the public didn't care about (and didn't lead to electoral losses in 199 ?  That is fucking stupid.

149 136 I really can't stand the thin, reedy Helvetia everywhere Go to Settings->General->Accessibility and turn on Bold Text. No more thin & reedy.

150 The Dem candidate is running on a platform of blaming YOUR Republican Party for making all this goodness happen *** Just wait until the Republicans nominate another Bush in 2016! Why is your healthcare so expensive when it is available? I blame Bush...all of them! --Your average liberal in 3 years

151

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2013 08:20 AM (sTfkB)

 

Want to bet?  There's a 1-in-3 chance the codification of the 1-year delay in the employer mandate will be in the conference bill, and a 0-in-17,000,000,000,000 any other delay or defunding will be in there.

 

And Bo(eh)ner will love it.

152 Helen Thomas in a thong holding a dildo My medical condition causes substantial pain in my gut and kidneys. The picture you painted, Navycopjoe, makes my current pain seem like a picnic. On one hand, I hate your clever but illustrative language. On the other hand, I enjoy it. But that's what pain meds are for, right?

153

It boils down to courage and what you really want. The GOP and its minions pretend otherwise, but they are just folks overcome by fear and cynical ambition and delusion.

 

To me they exhibit the classic symptoms of the chronic bullying victim and they will continue to be the victim until they start fighting back, and not symbolic fights but outright confrontation. I think that's one of the reasons the conservative wing is pushing this so hard; if the GOP rolls on this issue on which they are so overwhelmingly aligned with public opinion, then they will roll on anything.

154 150 Gran - Yup, found that last night. It fixes a lot. But this keyboard is still thinly-fonted. That looks to be hard-coded.

155 So we're nt letting it burn anymore?

156 If you think our chances in 2014 are good without having a very public debate and standing for a principle, then you are an idiot. *** In 2010 the Republicans ran against Obamacare and won historic victories. In 2012 they ran the architect of Obamacare v1.0 and ran on a platform of...Romney knows how to run a business....or something...? And lost an election even with the economy in shambles and the current occupant of the White House clearly to blame. When an election is fought over issues where there is a clear difference between the parties Republicans almost always win. When it is on personalities or who can give out more freebies Democrats almost always win.

157 "Now, this debt ceiling -- I just want to remind people in case you haven't been keeping up -- raising the debt ceiling, which has been done over a hundred times, does not increase our debt; it does not somehow promote profligacy. All it does is it says you got to pay the bills that you've already racked up, Congress. It's a basic function of [the Executive to be] making sure that the full faith and credit of the United States is preserved [, but it's the job of the Congress to reign in this spending]."

... but Congress must keep spending, ignoring those 'crazy' Tea Party folks, who would have Congress do her job.

158 Having power and being willing to use power are two different things. Just because Boehnor is unwilling to fight doesn't mean he is powerless. Posted by: @JohnTant at September 19, 2013 08:22 AM (hNNJ5) ------------ Exactly. As long as the House doesn't blink, pressure will mount on the Senate & on Obama to cave.

159 Yeah, I see the argument to let it implode of its own epic failure. But then I see the HMO on my wifes plan now charging $20,000 a year for a family of four -- which to put in a very visual context is a stack of dollar bills SEVEN FEET HIGH. Every year, increasing in price. What male is going to take on the obligation/commitment to a wife and family facing that sort of financial challenge? Young men and women are hardly marrying, hardly having kids now.

My wife's school was (holds thumb and forefinger 1/64" apart) that close to closing. Schools in Philly and Chicago are closing in epic numbers. Kindergarten and first grade classes have gone from two or three per school to one classroom. Half full. But yet the teachers unions are mum.

Obama may claim he's doing stuff  'for the children' but it's actually the exact opposite. I want the adults to snatch the keys away from the children who are running this government. Now, before the damage is irreparable.

160 157: I thought the platform in 2012 was that Romney tied his dog to his station wagon while carrying notebooks full of women to government meetings. I must be all fucked up.

161 All those Republicans worried about getting blamed for shutting down the Government need to remember the first rule for incumbency: Base First! You piss off the base, everything goes awry. Your turnout models and advertising lists are devalued, your advertising like a challenger, you run the risk of a nasty primary - that might not unseat you, but will piss off an active segment of voters. In these off year elections, base turnout is critical. You might have an argument against a Government shutdown if your running for President, but not in a mid-term.

162 154 - THIS times 100,000,000! This, as much as anything else, is why we loved Reagan. He stood up to the bullies in both parties. It's not really so much that we're looking for another Reagan when we pine for him, I think, as it is that we are looking for someone who isn't afraid of his own doggone shadow.

163 This fight within the GOP is the only fight that matters. Obama's side simply is. The left is going to do what they are going to do. They are like a force of nature. They are like Reese's description of the Terminator. Their every move is to arrogate more power to take more of our shit until there is nothing left for them to take. And, should that time come, they will keep on keeping on until the rest of us have knelt before Zod or are reduced to sun-bleached bones in the killing fields. The 1/2 of 1/3 of government has the power to defund Obamacare and thereby effectively kill it. Reid's senate can grab and hold all kinds of hostages to try to force the House GOP to cave. Let's see a recorded vote of who in the GOP is all right with caving. Let's get these votes on the record now while there is still time to organize primary challenges for the 2014 mid-terms.

164 >>If he channeled Tip ONeil instead of Neville Chamberlin, then yes he could run the country. Tip got rolled by Reagan on a regular basis. I think he was the original model for "Why are you hitting yourself?". I understand the desire to tell Obama and the rest of the liberals to go fuck themselves but you all do realize there was no way we were ever going to get this thing defunded, right? People can rip Gabe all they want and he does deserve it for tossing bombs and then refusing to engage but the real problem is we just do not have the votes to get this thing stopped now.

165 Raising your credit card limit does not mean you can go further into debt. It's just a number. Oh, look at the big scary number! - Professor B. Obama Top Dude White House

166 "Helen Thomas in a thong holding a dildo is a bad image"

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Oh dear...I'll never be the same.

**shutter**

 

167 Why is the GOP all puffed up with no place to go?

168 >> There is another ideal outcome which has been obvious for quite some time. Let the Dems own this piece of shit instead of performing a very public kabuki stomping of our feet which will prove exactly nothing. Once we lost 2012, that should've been the plan. We should've loudly opposed every exemption and carve out Obama made, and, honestly, the fight now should be about making them implement the law as written. But we didn't make that pivot. This goes back to my point on the lack of leadership. I honestly think delay is the worst possible outcome, because it gives the Dems exactly what they want ... more time to fix the implementation, make side deals with unions and other constituencies, etc.

169 Call me when we have a majority in the House Senate and a Repub prezzy. Only then can we get rid of Obamacare.

Like, remember when the Republicans had all there in 2003-2007, and all of those wasteful, oppressive, liberty-killing Government programs were shit-canned.

Oh... wait...

170 So Boeher actually runs the country? The Speaker of the House, presuming he can keep a majority behind him, is the single most important individual in the government in terms of spending. With a simple House majority, which the Republicans have, you can defund almost anything you want. The system is set up to make the "don't fund it" position easier to implement politically then the "fund it" position as the former requires nothing to be done outside of the House, and the latter requires a majority vote in both houses and a presidential signature... Of course the simpler way to do this, which the Republicans have refused to do, is break up the spending bills and send them in the order you want them voted on. Don't say jack shit about Obamacare as you send bills to fund the VA or the DoD or what have you and let Obama/Reid shutdown the government or pass each budget individually. Then when it is time to craft a bill to fund Obamcare...don't.

171

Let the Senate or Obama shut it down.  Meanwhile, let the Senators go on record again. or not.  The delay plan is the one that completely sucks.  My feeling is make it all go ahead and let everyone enjoy the delightful fkking over they are going to get. 

 

As for the entitlement that will be impossible to remove... Think of it as $10,000 subsidy off a $20,000 Mink bed throw (I actually saw this at Harrod's a couple of years ago) that no one in their right mind would pay more than $100 for.  That it not an entitlement with appeal.

172 It's pretty simple. Voters go into the booth and vote for the candidate who is most like them. If Republicans stand for Nothing, why vote for them? If the Republicans pretty much align with the Democrats, why not just vote for the Democrat? This path to party death the Reublicans is so very obvious I have to wonder if they're doing it on purpose to bring about a Single Party system in the US.

173

What Ted Cruz said

Harry Reid will no doubt try to strip the defund language from the continuing resolution, and right now he likely has the votes to do so," said Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas. "At that point, House Republicans must stand firm, hold their ground and continue to listen to the American people."

174 Steveegg, 1 in X is better then not even on the table. Who knows what a week will bring? Every scandal eats at the President and Reid's power.

175 I honestly think delay is the worst possible outcome, because it gives the Dems exactly what they want ... more time to fix the implementation, make side deals with unions and other constituencies, etc. Those side deals are a BFD, and the GOP's silence about them means that everybody needs to quit pretending that the US is not a banana republic.

176

>>>One final point, on what planet are you living on where you think that "shutting down government" will be evaluated by the voters separately from "shutting down Obamacare"?

The planet where we're reminded every cufking day that we have to stop Obamacare/fight it tooth-and-nail/ignore political expediency because when the federal freebies spigot gets turned off, Americans lose their shit?

177

...but the real problem is we just do not have the votes to get this thing stopped now.

 

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That is incorrect.  There is a House majority that can (and will) vote to do just that...defund it.

 

The delay argument that Gabe and others are pushing is making the perfect the enemy of the good.

178 175 - In theory, yes. But then Obama just carves himself a chunk of new power and no one seems willing to do anything about that....

179 So if I were the GOP, I'd get all GOP members of Congress on the same page as far as messaging. Pass the CR defunding Obamacare from the House, then have all media appearances repeat the same line, "we are trying to fully fund the federal government while also ending the unpopular, unworkable, and unaffordable Obamacare program. Even the president agrees this bill is not ready as he continuously delays implementation and gives waivers to politically connected allies. If the government gets shut down, it will be because the Senate donks and Obama refuse to accede to the public's demands to end this monstrosity." Just take the opportunities to get on message, hammer the donks, and tie this to them.



On the other hand, the House could pass it and sneer at their Senate colleagues and the conservative base in general. Remind them that they're stupid because we don't have 60 votes in the Senate, so it's dead and smart politics wouldn't even have this fight, but you made us so now you have to put up the fight alone while we sneer at you rubes. Oh by the way, when this fails in the Senate, we fully intend to cave on Obamacare, will probably end up giving the donks more than they even asked for, and it's all your fault stupid conservatives.




I think we know which strategy Gabe prefers.

180 People can rip Gabe all they want and he does deserve it for tossing bombs and then refusing to engage but the real problem is we just do not have the votes to get this thing stopped now. Posted by: JackStraw at September 19, 2013 08:29 AM (g1DWB) Ack! If you fight, you have the chance to create votes for defunding OCare. Fighting and fighting hard can force the RINOs and Democrats to cave. There is no other way to find out if that can happen and its way too late to hope 2014 and 2016 can fix this for us.

181 Imagine the butthurt from McLame if the R's threaten a shutdown.  That assclown will hurt himself getting in front of a camera to slam the House.  And Carl Rove....fuck you too!

182 165. This is true but everyone wanted at least a fight from the opposition party Heres an analogy: look at the Jax Jaguars, everyone knows they suck and have no chance but they have no fan base and no support for the future Now look at the bears, they suck and have no chance but put up a fight every year and look at their fan base, we are super loyal and spend huge bucks looking foward to the future Just the fight is worth hope

183 171: "Don't say jack shit about Obamacare as you send bills to fund the VA or the DoD or what have you and let Obama/Reid shutdown the government or pass each budget individually. Then when it is time to craft a bill to fund Obamcare...don't." But geez, then the pricks in the House would have to work a little....How can you pass individual spending bills and still have time to sit in a sun tanning booth, play golf, or be on Greta's show every fucking night?

184

Steveegg, 1 in X is better then not even on the table. Who knows what a week will bring? Every scandal eats at the President and Reid's power.

 

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2013 08:33 AM (Y8t25)

 

Do note what I said the 1-in chance applies to - the codification of the 1-year delay in the employer mandate, and what it does not apply to - any other delay or defunding of PlaceboCare.

 

The plan is to keep the employer mandate delay administrative, and then have the Lawgivers-In-Black retroactively overturn it for massive penalties.

185 But geez, then the pricks in the House would have to work a little. *** This returns to my original point - Boehner doesn't want to remove Obamacare - like Romney he wants to "improve it". Our fundamental problem, beyond all else, is that the leadership of the nominally conservative party isn't conservative.

186

"Unexpected" loss of solar activity.

When did it become fashionable to call idiots scientists? Seems to coincide with idiot letards coming to prominence.

http://tinyurl.com/lvdqtlb

187 Thanks, RushBabe, for the Levin link.  I only caught the tail end of the show last night.  His monologue was superb.  If there is anyone...anyone...on the conservative side of the spectrum in the GOP who is more passionate than Mark Levin, I'd like to hear them.  I fear that Boehner is setting this up to fail.  He, and all the rest of 'em, need to strip out Obamacare and send the resolution to the Senate....and then they need to get on the boob tube and continually and loudly defend their position to the American people.  Explain why Obamacare is such a failure, how badly it will affect their lives, the impact that is already being felt with closing hospitals, job losses, reduced wages and exploding premiums.  But Boehner will not do that.  Seems to me he's giving the conservatives 'what they want,' but he isn't willing to defend it, truly support it and advocate for it.  His heart isn't in it, iow. 

188 In other news, for the second week in a row, California and Nevada did not report their jobless numbers, which means the reported initial claims the last 2 weeks have been about 40K lower than they should have been and reported continuing claims are now somewhere around 75K lower than they should have been.

189 141 Wonder if those 4 million or so McCain voters in 2008 who stayed home rather than vote for Mitt in 2012 are happy these days? Because purity. Let it burn. Scatter the ashes.... You have heard that here right? Does anyone think that electing Romney (I did not stay home, I actively worked for him) would have really made a difference insofar as turning around this Damned government monster that is devouring a nation of free purple? Most people don't even realize what Hell we are in. It's going to take a lot if pain before we really want to take our county back. Maybe those who stayed home realize this and said "let's just get this shit going. Light it up."

190 I... Ummm... ... You gotta read it to get the full rich, velvety stupid inside. http://tinyurl.com/l3jpz3v

191
Call me when we have a majority in the House Senate and a Repub prezzy. Only then can we get rid of Obamacare.
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192 >>Once we lost 2012, that should've been the plan. We should've loudly opposed every exemption and carve out Obama made, and, honestly, the fight now should be about making them implement the law as written. >>But we didn't make that pivot. This goes back to my point on the lack of leadership. >>I honestly think delay is the worst possible outcome, because it gives the Dems exactly what they want ... more time to fix the implementation, make side deals with unions and other constituencies, etc. I don't disagree with any of that. Delay is a stupid strategy. Letting Obama pick and choose which parts of the law he wanted to implement without saying boo was idiotic. And as a party we suck at messaging. But these things are real and we know them, it's not like they were going to change in September '13. Obamacare is a rolling disaster. Since we have failed to stop it, force the Dems to own it. People HATE this thing. It is not an insidious program like Medicare or SS that only hurts people at the margins while giving stuff to a powerful voting bloc, oldsters, this thing is a monster that is crippling everyone. And it is only going to get worse. Bring the pain. Rip the bandaid off. Let people enjoy the suck that is this law. And then working to repeal it and running against it will really have power.

193 His heart isn't in it, iow.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 19, 2013 08:40 AM (XB5Ak)

 

Im gettin my ass kicked down here....HELP!

194 >>>Just the fight is worth hope

How do you explain the Cubs?

195 Wake me up for the dump. This one doesn't make it through my filter. Since I took my happy pill this morning, it's odd, I just don't see any words in this post.

196 Wonder if those 4 million or so McCain voters in 2008 who stayed home rather than vote for Mitt in 2012 are happy these days? Because purity. Lois Lerner would like a word.

197

I'm back.  I'll say what I said yesterday:

 

Obamacare for EVERYONE or NO ONE!

 

Eat your shit sandwich, America!  It's an Obama family tradition!

198 18-1, absolutely. Even the threat of doing detailed appropriations would scare the shit out of Washington. They should do it. My list of big changes: 1. End withholding, have the Ways and Means Chair offer transactional immunity to anyone who the IRS goes after for failure to submit quarterly 941 payments. 2. Change health care from a business to a personal deduction. Physician, first do no harm. 3. Quarterly, by Agency Appropriations - troop march the bastards 4. Slash the Federal Bench by 75% and reorganize by speciality instead of geography. I would wait until we had a Conservative President and Senate, then make them all re-confirm for the new jobs.

199 MoeRon- I haven't seen your around here for a little while. Maybe I missed you. Last time you were here you were getting some health issues checked out. What did they find if you care to share? I have been praying for you.

200

it will be because the Senate donks and Obama refuse to accede to the public's demands to end this monstrosity

 

 

Would probably also be good to remind the people that this law was never wanted in the first place, that it was shoved down their throats, that everything the critics said would happen has happened (layoffs, hours cut, dropped coverage, massive increases in premium cost), and that the worst is yet to come.

201 Morning all. Thanks G-D this is my last civilian work day of the week. Tomorrow I disappear into Navy Land. obama sucks

202 195. They were rebuilding this year Next year the World Series is a lock!!!

203 Whatever. The GOP is humming a tune they lost the melody to long ago.

204 MPPP Great story about Bette Davis. I think she's a fine actress (I particularly liked "How Green Was My Valley- from a great book) and her portrayal of Elizabeth I but there' s a coldness that comes across generally. I forget. Are you writing a book or have you written one about Hollywood?

205 The House GOP is having a tantrum. Cowardly Quisling fucks.

206 Wonder if those 4 million or so McCain voters in 2008 who stayed home rather than vote for Mitt in 2012 are happy these days? Because purity.

I didn't stay home last time, but I'll probably stay home next time if the nominee is a milquetoast like Jeb or a jerk like Chrispie Chreme.

207 177 >>>One final point, on what planet are you living on where you think that "shutting down government" will be evaluated by the voters separately from "shutting down Obamacare"? The planet where we're reminded every cufking day that we have to stop Obamacare/fight it tooth-and-nail/ignore political expediency because when the federalfreebies spigot gets turned off, Americans lose their shit? Posted by: WAGOPinTX at September 19, 2013 08:34 AM (T/CkD) Who cares. It's a midterm, our base isn't listening to the media. Fuck'em. The only place it will hurt is in VA, where it will put McAuliffe into Richmond. I'm in VA, we'll take the hit.

208 202. Woohoo!!! Tattoos and shit coffee for the Cdr!!

209 osted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2013 08:44 AM (9Xc5j) Thanks for your service.

210 These days, when Malor does his morning trolling, I just ctrl+f "empire" just to make sure the bases are covered. Thanks EoJ, and save me a spot in Battery Factory #4.

211 You gotta read it to get the full rich, velvety stupid inside. Funny thing: In a mandatory Law class when I was in school, the professor mentioned that using "full faith and credit" to refer to money was sophomoric so don't ever do it.

212 MoeRon- I haven't seen your around here for a little while. Maybe I missed you. Last time you were here you were getting some health issues checked out. What did they find if you care to share? I have been praying for you. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2013 08:43 AM (a4Omg) Thank you FenelonSpoke: this time next I'll be in the process of having a cancerous tumor removed from my pancreas; we'll know then whether it's spread or not. Please keep your prayers going. Thanks

213 How do you explain the Cubs?

Posted by: Fritz at September 19, 2013 08:42 AM (UzPAd)

 

Because Chicago

214 Thanks for your service. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2013 08:47 AM (a4Omg) Believe it is my pleasure. It refreshes my batteries. Not that there is no aggravation in the Navy, but it is a different kind. And since it the Navy I am more on the top of the hill than the bottom, less shit that rolls down tends to hit me.

215 If one of the morons who lives in SC won the 400 million dollar lottery (one winner) could you please give me money to fix our cr***y cars, one of which is on life support. Thanks/ ;^)

216 How do you explain the Cubs? Posted by: Fritz at September 19, 2013 08:42 AM (UzPAd) Something to do with a goat right?

217

Wonder if those 4 million or so McCain voters in 2008 who stayed home
rather than vote for Mitt in 2012 are happy these days? Because purity.

 

------

 

Where is McCain on the CR that defunds Obamacare right now?

 

 

Yeah, that's what I thought.

218 Last night, I was at a bar playing ESPN, and ads ran multiple times of Ted Cruz in a "Defund Obamacare, call Congress today" spot and then a "Remove Boehner" ad by some PAC I guess. Thought that was interesting, anger out there boiling over.

219 Slash the Federal Bench by 75% and reorganize by speciality instead of geography. I would wait until we had a Conservative President and Senate, then make them all re-confirm for the new jobs. That would tie up the legislative branch for the better part of two sessions. I like it.

220 keep fucking that chicken GOP

221 I look forward to your anecdotes. I have been known to repeat them from time to time, especially the "So am I. Mine's bigger than my handbag!" Instant classic.
Do you have them all in one place? A blog? Newsletter?

 

Posted by: Auslander at September 19, 2013 08:14 AM (U7X2u)

 

Thank you, Auslander, you're very kind! :-)   I don't have all the stories in one place (I think it's EoJ who keeps saying I should do an e-book), and my blog is strictly for my books.  I really ought to start double-posting here and there.

 

Please feel free to request a story.  I don't have stories about everybody, but I can usually come up with a least a nice picture and a quick comment.

222 When the GOP had power it gave it back to the Democrats as fast as it could. The GOP wants to be in second place. Less pressure and plenty of goodies.

223 If you can't defend a hill with 58% public support in the latest  poll I've seen, maybe it's better to just stay in the valley and eat some Kaboom.  

224 Am I late? Good morning! "Today is a black day in the fight against global warming" Squealed in horror, Senator Christine Milne the senate slag for the greens. Sweeter than Piers Morgan's desperation over gun laws in America.

225 I admire the attitude of people who want to serve and protect their country and help the men and women in the service. It's honorable because it demands resilience and discipline and it requires that people have it each others backs-it seems to me. It has a larger goal than just looking after oneself. And we all need things to recharge our batteries. :^)

226 Boehner is the WRONG guy to go on television to sell anything. I do not know the man. He may be a very good, honest person. But he could not sell fur to an Eskimo. If Boehner, or frankly, anybody in the House Rep leadership trys to sell the country on defunding Obamacare, we are doomed. I don't have any suggestion as to who can get the job done but I sure can tell you who can't. Sometimes when I see Boehner, I think of Bob Dole in 1988. He's in the position because he's been around the longest, not because he has any kind of leadership ability.

227

How do you explain the Cubs?

 

Posted by: Fritz at September 19, 2013 08:42 AM (UzPAd)

 

Karma.  Thankfully, they're keeping the Brewers out of the NL Central cellar.

 

Oh, and Teh SCOAMT's White Sux are even worse.  BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

228 Okay, a thought exercise: You are selling a house. I want to buy this house. I announce I will not walk away and that I will buy it. I'm afraid to go tell my family I didn't buy a house. I then announce that I'm going to make an offer of 250,000. I then say that when you refuse that, I will make an offer of 350,000. How much will I be paying for the house?

229 MPPP, Is there an actress you comes across to you as a genuinely likeable person and who was regarded as such. I hear a little more about nice actors (Jimmy Stewart one example. Paul Scofield another) than actresses.

230 "I like to hear which hymns people enjoy. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2013 07:27 AM"

This has always been a particular favorite of mine.  The Boston Byzantine Choir chants it particularly well here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rju5GyVtfnQ

231 The GOP isn't an opposition party, it's an 'opposition' party. "Look rubes, we voted the way you want! What more did you expect? That we'd actually hold the donks feet to the fire over it? Fuck you, send more money!"

232 If we're fighting global warming, I'd say we're kicking some pretty serious ass...you know...since it's cooling. Maybe a pause in that war is long overdue.

233 The govmint really, really expects tens of millions to go to some website, navigate a dozen pages and successfully sign up for ObamaCare by Oct 31(iirc)?

Capt Clusterfuck of Fail, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

I remember signing up for Verizon FIOS. You got a hefty, hefty discount by going on-line and navigating about ten pages of forms. Each page had a vast number of options. My IQ is well north of the mean, but it still took me weeks to fine-tune exactly what I wanted.

Since approximately half the population is south of the mean, I can accurately predict total failure.

234 228. It's REBUILDING!!! Wait till next year

235 "Gabe is the avatar of all that is wrong with the GOP leadership at present. He precisely defines the problem by epitomizing it on a daily basis." - Empire of Jeff Yes. Gabriel Malor completely mis-characterized Cruz's actions as only someone who wants him to fail would. The nature of Cruz's comments were the exact opposite from what Malor describes. Cruz is pointing out that it's going to be tough going in the senate where we're in the minority - but urges The House to hold on strong - where we're in the majority. I guess it's good for this blog to have an example (Malor) of exactly what we're up against with these statist "Republicans".

236 These days, when Malor does his morning trolling, I just ctrl+f "empire" just to make sure the bases are covered. Same. And boy are they.

237 McCain and Graham rebuked by their own state party in the same week? Sweet. Glad to note they understand neither one of these fucking chokers are Republicans.

238

Something to do with a goat right?

 

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2013 08:50 AM (9Xc5j)

 

I would have socked this one in, but as Admiral Ackbar says, it's a trap!

 

Besides, it's going to be SCOTUS-mandated by 2025 with or without the group I was going to sock.

239 227 Boehner is the WRONG guy to go on television to sell anything. I do not know the man. He may be a very good, honest person. But he could not sell fur to an Eskimo. If Boehner, or frankly, anybody in the House Rep leadership trys to sell the country on defunding Obamacare, we are doomed. I don't have any suggestion as to who can get the job done but I sure can tell you who can't. Sometimes when I see Boehner, I think of Bob Dole in 1988. He's in the position because he's been around the longest, not because he has any kind of leadership ability. Posted by: MoeRon at September 19, 2013 08:55 AM (WpfYl) There are folks in the House who can do a good job selling the Conservative agenda. Boehner has kept them in the basement for two and a half years.

240 Please keep your prayers going. Thanks Thanks for the update, MoeRon. Of course I will keep them up. :^)

241 229 How much will I be paying for the house? Pretty sure we'll end up "compromising" at around $400k.

242 How much will I be paying for the house?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 19, 2013 08:57 AM (4T5lL)

 

 

So they are paying you 100k to buy the house?

243 How much will I be paying for the house?

Why negotiate? Eventually the owners will come around and offer to give you the house for free. That's negotiating.

244 Eisenhower's brilliant plan to liberate France involved telling Charles DeGaulle to have the French Underground take care of it. When DeGaulle said that was impossible, Eisenhower said obviously he was running his mouth off and should accept an occupied France.

245

You know,

I suspect, given the age of identity politics that none of this matters.

Let's say we cave, 100%, give the democrats everything, including repealing sequester cuts. (Yes repeal).

Obama will still find a way to fuck over the "budget" (which is really just a CR) furlough some people and claim "see government needs more money."

 

So we hold the line, win everything, government shuts down, etc. etc.

Obama starts screaming "see government needs more money."

Jockeying the sequester into some mega disaster didn't work for them last time, so they seem entirely intent on ensuring it works this time even if there is no more sequester.

What we win or don't win in irrelevant.  Bambi isn't playing for keeps, or even to win the political battle.  He's playing (as he often is) to be entirely correct (even if that's bad for the country on the balance.)  So he said "sequester will be a disaster" and so he'll make it so, even if it doesn't have to be.

Same type thing for ObamaCare, same type thing everywhere.  We (and by We I mean "the idiot LIVs") elected a madman to president and now the pain ratchets up a notch.

246 It's your fault I gave you a black eye.

247 When is the GOP going to decide on a hill to die on? If they don't, then what is the use of being an opposition party. We already know the press isn't going to help us. They need to follow Reagan's lead, and take a strong, consistent message over the heads of the MSM and straight to the people. With the technology we now have, this should be easier than ever. Just get some balls.

248 Prof Flannery had travelled the country holding climate forums and produced academic work on climate change after being appointed in 2011. Among his most alarmist forecasts was a warning in 2007 that "Even the rain that falls isn't actually going to fill our dams and river systems. "In Adelaide, Sydney and Brisbane, water supplies are so low they need desalinated water urgently, possibly in as little as 18 months". Brisbane later grappled with flooding and Warragamba Dam in Sydney spilt over. I'm sure he'll move right over to some think tank, but good for the Aussies finally getting some of this nonsense off their govt payrolls

249

Pretty sure we'll end up "compromising" at around $400k.

 

But on the bright side, the seller agreed to leave the light bulbs and the toilet paper.

250 MPPP, Is there an actress you comes across to you as a genuinely likeable person and who was regarded as such. I hear a little more about nice actors (Jimmy Stewart one example. Paul Scofield another) than actresses.

 

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2013 08:57 AM (a4Omg)

 

Betty Grable, for one.  I love her in Sweet Rosie O'Grady.  Jean Harlow in Bombshell.  Audrey Hepburn, of course.  Greer Garson, though she's more  famous for playing glamorous ladies, which was what Louis B. Mayer wanted.  All of them were loved by the public and their co-stars.

251 "When is the GOP going to decide on a hill to die on? Malor already told us that hill was the Internet Sales Tax. If that doesn't make you want to fix bayonets, I'm not sure what will.

252 "Well, Happy Thursday. " ------------------ My first thought was, he lied in every word, That hoary cripple, with malicious eye Askance to watch the working of his lie On mine, and mouth scarce able to afford Suppression of the glee, that pursed and scored Its edge, at one more victim gained thereby.

253

Well said, Dave in Fla at 149.

 

You can't just fight the battles you a sure to win.  You have to fight them ALL.  That way, people actually know there is a difference between the parties.  As it stands, the GOP base doesn't even believe there is a difference.

 

And PARTICULARLY this issue.....America is with us....we may not win it right now, but we will in the future if we show America we stand with them.

254

When is the GOP going to decide on a hill to die on? If they don't, then what is the use of being an opposition party. We already know the press isn't going to help us. They need to follow Reagan's lead, and take a strong, consistent message over the heads of the MSM and straight to the people. With the technology we now have, this should be easier than ever. Just get some balls.

 

Posted by: John F Not Kerry (@jfd65) at September 19, 2013 09:05 AM (HF2US)

 

Come on; you give El PRL too little credit - they're dying on every retreat from every hill.

255 Who let the Theater major in here at 253?

256 Gabe's post would be more convincing if it included the full text of Cruz's remarks. Or maybe not. Funny how Gabe omitted them and used a link instead.

257

Who let the Theater major in here at 253?

 

Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 19, 2013 09:09 AM (sFQyf)

 

Ben's late with the dump again.

258 ios7 for Ipad  would have had Steve Jobs hurling ipads around like ninja stars and then he would have smashed them with cylinders of rolled steel.

259 I was forgetting about Audrey Hepburn and I didn't know that about the others. Thx. I enjoy Greer Garson in "Pride and Prejudice".

260 It looks great on the phones though so don't let that hold you back.

261 The arguments within the GOP right now are healthy and I see a wonderful opportunity going forward to show the youthful and dynamic side of conservatism.  Think demographics -- you want the old inside baseball country club dinosaur or do you want principled realism with youthful energy?  This public spat is probably worth more campaign clout in the next ten years than any amount of money raised.  Get the message outside of the DC oldtimers and see how "middle America" responds.   

262 If there is no chance in hell of the House forcing a shutdown,then there is no downside whatsoever to the Senate voting down the House CR.

That's what Cruz pointed out.

Don't get all whiny and pissy just because someone pointed out the truth.

Isn't it great to have Gabe here to tell us that exactly 73 angels dancing on the head of a pin just so is the way to defeat Obamacare?

263

My first thought was, he lied in every word,

 

There's a Tinseltown memoir called Hello, He Lied.

264 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 19, 2013 08:57 AM (knoK7) That was lovely. I really like Gregorian chant from the Roman catholic Monastic tradition. I wasn't familiar with it from the Byzabtine rite. And the icons are wonderful. thx.

265 So, wait, the House sends some half ass attempt over and says, yeah, build the damn fence or whatever but they don't, and then they tell the fence builders you guys suck? I have no use for this party.

266 Who let the Theater major in here at 253? I am NOT also Empire of Jeff. ;^), but I was a theatre major. If he was one he's never admitted to it. :^)

267

Now that the Syrian rebels have helpfully decided to fight each other, send the weapons to the guys fighting against ISIS.   Still hardcore Sunni Salafists, but the, eh, less bad ones.   As usual, Obama has stumbled into an opportunity to squander by being unaware of it and indecisive.   Hopefully he has someone read WaPo  or Hot Air  for him.  

 

What a cluster.  I assumed he was actually doing something, lo so many months (years now?  egad) ago, when he said "Assad must go." 

 

@231

The Great Schism is alive and well in the comments under that beautiful hymn.  

268 There's a Tinseltown memoir called Hello, He Lied. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2013 09:12 AM (zF6Iw) ------------ That's perfect.

269

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2013 09:10 AM (a4Omg)

 

Betty Grable and Betty Hutton tended to  play  the same roles - spunky heroine with a heart of gold - but whereas Grable was fun off and on-set, Hutton was an angry, jealous prima donna.  Harlow was so beloved that everyone from her co-stars to the crews on her film called her simply "The Baby."  And I've never heard nor read a bad word about Hepburn.

 

If you ever have the chance, watch Garson's Julia Misbehaves.  It's the kind of movie she liked to make, but didn't get to do often.

270 Gabe is bragging about his futurecasting abilities? Well ain't that a peach. Seeing as he was dead wrong in all of his predictions re Gay marriage, Gays in the military, etc., I guess he needs to save face.

271 I am NOT also Empire of Jeff. ;^), but I was a theatre major. If he was one he's never admitted to it. :^) Newb. I believe that in a drunken stupor, or a just ill advised attempt at transparency, or maybe he was trying to brag that he banged a lot of theater chicks or something.... At any rate, he let it slip that he had minored in theater. He might as well have just bared his underbelly and said "Have at it."

272 If he was one he's never admitted to it. :^) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2013 09:13 AM (a4Omg) Oh, yes. Yes he has. I think BC1981 has the official documentation.

273 MPPP, Is there an actress you comes across to you as a genuinely likeable person and who was regarded as such. I hear a little more about nice actors (Jimmy Stewart one example. Paul Scofield another) than actresses.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2013 08:57 AM (a4Omg)

Betty Grable, for one. I love her in Sweet Rosie O'Grady. Jean Harlow in Bombshell. Audrey Hepburn, of course. Greer Garson, though she's more famous for playing glamorous ladies, which was what Louis B. Mayer wanted. All of them were loved by the public and their co-stars.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2013 09:06 AM (zF6Iw)

I have to say Ann Margaret after hearing that Vietnam vet story of hers.  Way classy move on her part to do that for a stranger she "met" years ago.

274 We can beat the shredded remnant of this horse into its component molecules if we want but we're not going to defund Obamacare. The only way to defund it completely is to repeal it and that isn't happening. They won when they intimidated CJ Roberts into changing his original opinion. They will make it hurt until the insurance companies collapse and then they will go to single payer. This will happen within 10 years. Sorry to be a pill but I'm tired and angry and heartsick and can't take any more wishcasting.

275 I wasn't familiar with it from the Byzabtine rite.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2013 09:12 AM

Glad you enjoyed it.  The Boston Byzantine Choir is amazing, with the added bonus that they chant in English.  Have another from the Balkans.  This woman has a lovely voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE1FzSC8DBs

276 @231 The Great Schism is alive and well in the comments under that beautiful hymn. Well, I'm glad I missed that. So tacky. Why can't people just enjoy the beautiful music without rehashing theological debates. Arrrrrrrrrrgh! :^(

277 Zip Zop Zoobiddy-Zap!

Gabe's post is a load of crap!

278 I never wanted to use chrome but now I have to, because the ios7 safari browser bar  can not bed hid and takes up a large amount of viewing real estate.

And its very bright.




And the "find on page" is screwy.

There's a handy new feature where you can sweep up from the bottom of the pad and a little control panel appears.  (Before you pressed a button and swept from the side. )

This control panel lets you raise volume, adj ust brightness, that sort of thing.

It's stupid though,  because sweeping up the control panel dims the screen in the background. 

Go to adjust the brightness slider,  and you see the problem.  Brightening becomes a guessing game,  It's not WYSIWYG,  because you have to interpolate based on brightening of a dimmed screen.

279 35 Teh Gabe seems to have a wild hair up his butt about Cruz.
==========
I think you will find something, somewhere about how Cruz was/is against gay marriage.

Look, I've seen this play before.

I didn't like it when Andi Sullivan was the lead and it's not any better now.

280 I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict that Gabe sees no ill effect of Obamacare upon himself, and may even see an opportunity to personally benefit from it.

281 "@231
The Great Schism is alive and well in the comments under that beautiful hymn. Posted by: Beagle at September 19, 2013 09:14 AM"

*sigh*

That's why I usually ignore the comments and just enjoy the chant.

282

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 19, 2013 08:57 AM (4T5lL)

 

You know funny story.

 

When we were buying our house, the wife fell in love with it, and even though our first offer was rejected more or less out of hand (they countered at basically asking price again) we knew better than to start a bidding war.

So we walked away, but my wife wanted to see it again, so there was an open house, and since the seller's agent had never seen us, we went in and wrote fake names on the sign in sheet.

We also noticed the agent was frustrated at the seller (it was an estate sale, and the estate executive live in a different city and apparently was hard to work with) and that she had no clue what her market was (it's a big house, but also an older house, and not open concept, which really limited the market I suspect).

So anyway, seeing no other visitors since our last offer (which by now had been 2-3 weeks ago)  and knowing the house had been on the market for 6 months, we knew the seller was either a combination of bluster, and possibly some sort of excessive attachment to the house (be it emotion or money, I'll never know.)

So we offered again, and this time held the line. (We knew our original offer was an insane lowball, so we did come up some.)

They countered, actually right at what my wife and I were willing to pay.

So we countered lower.

They blinked, and we got the house for less than our maximum (and much less than they wanted for it.)

 

Now, if I had let my wife do 100% of the negotiating she'd have just caved right out of the gate, but because we held our ground we got basically everything we wanted except for the chimney re-tuck-pointed (because during concessions when we said "new roof or we walk again" they knew it was not a light threat.)

283 157 If you think our chances in 2014 are good without having a very public debate and standing for a principle, then you are an idiot. *** In 2010 the Republicans ran against Obamacare and won historic victories. In 2012 they ran the architect of Obamacare v1.0 and ran on a platform of...Romney knows how to run a business....or something...? And lost an election even with the economy in shambles and the current occupant of the White House clearly to blame. When an election is fought over issues where there is a clear difference between the parties Republicans almost always win. When it is on personalities or who can give out more freebies Democrats almost always win. Posted by: 18-1 Well put, well stated. Thank you.

284 I come here for the hard hitting political dialog and leave with a gay coffeehouse kind of feeling.

285 Oh, must share this. I just stumbled across the ONT comment that ended, "...yes, explaining the minimum wage and tax rates with these people is a futile exercise." Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=343507#c21179551 Recommended reading - classic instance of 'what we're up against.' Math is har-rd.

286 >>> The Great Schism is alive and well in the comments under that beautiful hymn Those longbowers get around.

287 Oh, must share this. I just stumbled across the ONT comment that ended,
"...yes, explaining the minimum wage and tax rates with these people is a futile exercise."
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet
http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=343507#c21179551

Recommended reading - classic instance of 'what we're up against.' Math is har-rd.

Posted by: mindful webworker - retrospecting at September 19, 2013 09:21 AM (bDqG/)

No shit math is hard for some people.  Someone skipped the day when they taught how to move decimal places.

288 111 john Tant

you wrote:

"However, I'm digging the new Control Center and love how it can be accessed from the lock screen."

It is the stupidest feature of all.

Did you not notice how the brightness slider is rendered uh "not very helpful" because of the auto-dim of the pages being viewed?

That's actually the main thing a person uses that control panel for, or I did, anyway.

289 Again on the phone it's probably fine.  On the ipad,  it's a disaster.

290

Posted by: mindful webworker - retrospecting at September 19, 2013 09:21 AM (bDqG/)

 

Even the ones who ostensibly understand the math tend to ignore it's application in reality.

"Raise the minimum wage!"

"OK, but what about the job losses and pending inflation as a result"

"Pfff, winger"

(Sigh)

291 287 >>> The Great Schism is alive and well in the comments under that beautiful hymn

Those longbowers get around.

Posted by: fluffy at September 19, 2013 09:22 AM (z9HTb)

Damn crossbowist.

292 Again on the phone it's probably fine. On the ipad, it's a disaster.


Hmmmm....something tells me I won't be upgrading.

293 We're all in the wrong business.  Video Games, that's it, that's the ticket, 800 hundred million in sales in one 24 hour period, 800 million, boys and girls.  And, some are saying that's wrong that's it 1 billion in sales in one 24 hour period and will be revised.
http://tinyurl.com/ms25x5q

294 I have to say Ann Margaret after hearing that Vietnam vet story of hers. Way classy move on her part to do that for a stranger she "met" years ago.

 

Posted by: EC at September 19, 2013 09:17 AM (GQ8sn)

 

That was a lovely story.  I didn't think of AM, as she's a little beyond my usual cutoff date for movies.

 

I've told this story before, but for the newbs, here it is again, in short form: at the wrap party for Bye, Bye, Birdie, one executive, director, A.D. and actor after another got up and made a little speech about how nice AM was, what a professional, what a joy on set, and so on.

 

Shelley Winters, who was AM's co-star, got ticked off by all this, and when there was a moment of silence, stood up and announced, "I guess I'm the only one here who  doesn't  want to fuck Ann-Margret!"

295 Posted by: blaster at September 19, 2013 09:16 AM (W6bkf) There are a number of people on here who like to brag about how many chicks they've banged. I take some of it with a grain of salt and get them confused.I take some of what EOF says with a grain of salt especially his anti Polyanna routine (You're going to die alone, afraid and in the dark"). He likes to get a response. :^) And people can be o.k and be theatre majors. They're Not ALL leftist andeven some leftists have had political conversion experiences

296 >>> Damn crossbowist. Pollock eater.

297 Now i'm beginning to see why everybody likes to jump on Gabe. He's kind of a little prick today, isn't he?

298 "Those longbowers get around.
Posted by: fluffy at September 19, 2013 09:22 AM (z9HTb)

Damn crossbowist.
Posted by: joncelli at September 19, 2013 09:24 AM"



Don't even start this argument with the People's Front of Judea...

299 gay coffeehouse kind of feeling. There are gay coffeehouses.?Who knew?

300 Nood

301 Later everybody. Have a good day.

302 Posted by: tsrblke at September 19, 2013 09:20 AM (GaqMa) Sounds like a successful negotiation. I'm hlad things turned out well. Are you free to be Speaker?

303

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2013 09:25 AM (a4Omg)

 

I brag repeatedly that I have banged precisely one chick, and she's my wife .

304 297 >>> Damn crossbowist.

Pollock eater.

Posted by: fluffy at September 19, 2013 09:25 AM (z9HTb)

Thou artless base-court applejohn!

305 >>> I take some of what EOF says with a grain of salt especially his anti Polyanna routine Sshhhh! Stop trying to explain how the card trick works ;--)

306 Teh Gabe seems to have a wild hair up his butt about Cruz. ========== I think you will find something, somewhere about how Cruz was/is against gay marriage. Look, I've seen this play before. I didn't like it when Andi Sullivan was the lead and it's not any better now. Posted by: RoyalOil at September 19, 2013 09:18 AM (VjL9S) You noticed it too?

307 The Great Schism is alive and well in the comments under that beautiful hymn.

Umm no. The Great Schism is the early 11th-century split of Catholicism.

308 Shelley Winters, who was AM's co-star, got ticked off by all this, and when there was a moment of silence, stood up and announced, "I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't want to fuck Ann-Margret!"



Uh....yup.

309

Gabe, you have bought into the Republican leadership political spin on why they will never do anything to actually reverse liberal policies.  Why, after controlling the House since 2010, have we continued to run record deficits?  It's because the Republican leadership in the House does not want to cut spending.  Why a single omnibus CR?  Why not a series of CR's that mirror the typical budget process...which hasn't been done since the first year of this Presidency?

I didn't leave you Gabe, you left me.

310 And people can be o.k and be theatre majors. They're Not ALL leftist andeven some leftists have had political conversion experiences. I don't expect that anyone would rag on you for being a theater major. EOJ, though.... Well, it's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife.

311 Gabe reminds me of the ninety  year old (maybe not actually that old, but seemed that way) woman who used to work for me. She opened the doors in the morning, aired out the place, fixed coffee, welcomed everyone with a smile.

So take away the fresh coffee, the fresh air, the welcome, and the smile and that's Gabe. Opening the door in the morning.

312

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 19, 2013 09:28 AM (tmzN0)

 

Successful enough I suppose.

I'd have liked to shave a few thousand more off the house, maybe fight a bit more for the tuckpointing.

But I weighted that against a happy wife and realized "meh, it's not that much to give up."

And it wasn't.  We got the house for 216k (with some closing cost refunds, because that's the new trick these days for agents to raise their commission).

I was shooting for 210k (Originally, prior to the first walk away).

In the grand scheme though, I'd say we got everything we wanted.  Including some roof repairs they didn't want to do, but I showed up and made friends with the roofer during install day and he agreed they *had* to be done (and put on the seller's bill) .

313

And there's the noos dump.

 

Laters.

314 He's kind of a little prick today, isn't he? Whaddya mean, today? I've tried in the past to stick up for Gabe as being good folk, despite the disagreements. This continual sneering of his pretty much assures I won't in the future.

315 . Why can't people just enjoy the beautiful music without rehashing theological debates. Arrrrrrrrrrgh! :^(

True story.  A couple of years ago when I was out of work (before Ear Leader invented Funemployment) my dad took an afternoon off and we visited the Grotto of the Redemption, a shrine in honor of Mary in NW Iowa built by a priest after he recovered from a severe illness.

http://www.westbendgrotto.com/

It's pretty neat, although we were mostly impressed by the rocks because we're nerds and Lutherans...and we're chilling out in the little park and all of a sudden the PA system, which has been playing appropriate organ music that neither of us recognized, starts up "A Mighty Fortress Is Our God."

We just looked at each other and busted out laughing.

316

@308

Er, what?  In 1054 the Eastern Orthodox and Catholics split over the Filioque,  and bread of all things.    

317 ONE of the many reasons I despise politicians is that so many base their decisions on short-term tactical/political concerns, rather than what's good for the country.

318 56 Is this why Gabe's been missing from the podcast?

Hard to lecture your audience when they can talk back, hey buddy? Please bring that weak shit to the roundtable. I double dog dare you.

All your wonky bullshit about how it just can't be done aside, I want to hear you explain why it shouldn't even be attempted.

Dazzle me with your fiscal conservative philosophical stylings.
==========
Sure.
That's going to happen.

319 It doesnt matter which strategy they choose, both would need for the Republicans to not cave on the issue.

To those complaining in the House, Cruz has always said that the House would need to stand firm on this.

Correct me if Im wrong but wasnt there a poll released to the effect that a government shutdown was acceptable as long as it dealt with defunding/delaying Obamacare.

320

"Sen. Cruz, who is apparently responsible for doing nothing except running his mouth."

Sez the pugnacious beta-male, whose sole occupation, hereabouts, is exactly that--drooling with alacrity.

321 So employing the methods of Obamanalysis...is Gabe's reporting here incompetent or maliciously deceptive?

322 Letting obamacare start up is fiscal suicide

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 19, 2013 08:22 AM (wNsNP)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Many  times  this.

 

I  watch  the  bond  markets  and  the  trends  are  ugly.  Bondzilla  is  waking  and  the  very  real  prospect  of  a  bond  market  dislocation  cutting  the  Government's  credit  card  looms. 

 

Medicare/Medicaid  are  bankrupting  the  federal  government  without  adding  Obamacare. 

323

Behold how Ted Cruz throws the House under the bus.

 

202 Class act:

Senator Ted Cruz þ@SenTedCruz 1m
Today is a day for party unity—every Senate GOP should stand w/ GOPs in House, stand w/ conservatives & stand w/ the people #DefundObamacare
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2013 09:21 PM (DmNpO)

324 MP4: thank you for all of the daily stories. Greer Garson is my absolute favorite. I have Julia Misbehaves on my permanant TIVO file. I think it's an almost perfect movie. Anything she did with Walter Pigeon just shines. Oh and isn't "Talk Like A Pirate Day" today? Or did I hear wrong? In case it is.......Argh Maties!

325 It is. It is. Avast me hearties, land lubbers, scurvy dogs and scallywags, it's Talk Like A Pirate Day. Arrr!!!!

326 " I said don't do this because the House will sooner or later (probably sooner) cave and give Obama a clean CR. " That is the whole problem right there. It is something that hasn't happened yet, and should be prevented, and to you it's perfectly normal and acceptable and should be included in all our planning. We THOUGHT 2010 was the beginning of a rollback. We can look to 2016. 2014 will be the year of purging Washington of a bunch of stupid liars.

327 "Republicans who will inevitably need to vote to keep the government open" EVERY vote for a CR is a vote to keep the government open. You're offering Democrat talking points. And you wonder why we don't cherish you?

328 Is Gabe now just trolling the blog?  Enquiring minds, and all that.

329 GM: "Sen. Cruz, who is apparently responsible for doing nothing except running his mouth, insisted they do it anyway while he sits on his hands in the Senate." Let's see. Senator Cruz has been touring the country with Heritage to explain his position for weeks. He's been laying out a plan for months. He's held open rallies in public in D.C. He's spoken ad nauseum on both TV/cable and radio. He's written. He's Tweeted. He's emailed. He's set up and promoted a website to inform. He's been working the Hill for support on the Senate side with TEA Party caucusers. Right, Gabe. That Ted Cruz is a real layabout here. It'd sure be nice if he got off his ass and did something. Meanwhile, Boehner/Cantor et al. have held multiple symbolic votes designed not to do a damn thing. Yes, it's so GD obvious that Cruz is the real speedbump here.

330

Re: The Republican Establishment:

 

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."

 

The purpose of an opposition party is to oppose the governing party--not for the sake of contrarian, knee-jerk opposition but because there are (or should be) differences between the two, and those differences should be voiced and hashed out, one way or the other.  Personally, I strongly doubt Republicans will successfully repeal or roll back Obamacare, but they have to try. And if it comes to that, delaying tactics are a mistake. The majority of Americans voted for Obama's reelection. Okay, then let them feel the full effects of that decision good and hard, prior to the 2014 midterms. We'll all feel it, of course, but it would be difficult for Democrats to fix the blame on Republicans for its inevitable failure if all of them have fought against it every step of the way.

331 We prefer to die lying on our backs in the valley. Posted by: El PRL at September 19, 2013 08:17 AM (o44nj) Much more comfortable.

332 Winning formula for GOP (and Gabe) is the same as it always was: 1. Surrender -- and tell the base we're keeping our powder dry, because that NEXT issue is the one we're REALLY gonna crush 'em on. 2. Rinse -- you have to surrender too, asshole! What are you doing fighting on THIS hill? You're gonna ruin our chances on that next hill. Aren't you a patriot at all? Do you even want our side to win? 3. Repeat -- we only control 1/2 of 1/3 of the government. We can't stop anything, and if we try, we'll just lose our majority in the next election. Thanks, Gabe, for giving me my daily PISSED OFF MORNING MOOD. Without you I might need expensive meds to achieve that.