December 31, 2013

"Towards a Feminist Postcolonial Milk Studies"
— Ace

This is what universities (heavily subsidized by the US taxpayer) are churning out.

Because milk is produced by female mammals, a feminist perspective seems to offer a logical foundation for such inquiry. From the start, feminism has been a movement for justice: at its heart is the centrality of praxis, the necessary linkage of intellectual, political, and activist work. Feminist methodology puts the lives of the oppressed at the center of the research question and undertakes studies, gathers data, and interrogates material contexts with the primary aim of improving the lives and the material conditions of the oppressed. Using standard feminist methodology [standard feminist methodology?], twentieth-century vegan feminists and animal ecofeminists challenged animal suffering in its many manifestations (in scientific research, and specifically in the feminized beauty and cleaning products industries; in dairy, egg, and animal food production; in “pet” [note the scare quotes] keeping and breeding, zoos, rodeos, hunting, fur, and clothing) by developing a feminist theoretical perspective on the intersections of species, gender, race, class, sexuality, and nature. Motivated by an intellectual and experiential understanding of the mutually reinforcing interconnections among diverse forms of oppression, vegan feminists and ecofeminists positioned their own liberation and well-being as variously raced, classed, gendered, and sexual humans to be fundamentally interconnected to the well-being of other nondominant human and animal species, augmenting Patricia Hill Collins’s definition of intersectionality to include species as well.

Posted by: Ace at 10:38 AM | Comments (367)
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1 I we can get human milk straight from the source, the I'm all for it.

Posted by: zombie at December 31, 2013 10:39 AM (+cx5n)

2 If we can get human milk straight from the source, then I'm all for it. (typos corrected)

Posted by: zombie at December 31, 2013 10:39 AM (+cx5n)

3 What the holy hell was that?

Posted by: David at December 31, 2013 10:40 AM (UtRhK)

4 When I hear the word "praxis," that's when I unlock the safety catch on my Browning.

Posted by: zombie at December 31, 2013 10:40 AM (+cx5n)

5 'The Centrality of Praxis' was Siouxsie and the Banshees Best Album.

Posted by: garrett at December 31, 2013 10:40 AM (90tDX)

6 Whut?

Posted by: huerfano at December 31, 2013 10:40 AM (bAGA/)

7 My mind reels at the jargon thrown around like dollar bills at a strip club. These papers must be the Jiggly-Rooms for feminists.

Posted by: David at December 31, 2013 10:40 AM (UtRhK)

8 My god

*looks up*

It's full of stupid!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 31, 2013 10:41 AM (GcYmn)

9 Environmentalism is a doomsday cult that needs to be destroyed.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 31, 2013 10:42 AM (ZPrif)

10 What do you mean my liberal arts degree won't help me get a job?!

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 31, 2013 10:42 AM (zeV2E)

11 Teh stupid, it burns!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2013 10:42 AM (DrWcr)

12

y'know, there are times I REALLY think the gene-pool needs a serious dose of chlorine.... like now...

Posted by: fred zeppelin at December 31, 2013 10:42 AM (zL/eJ)

13 What do you mean my liberal arts degree won't help me get a job?!

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 31, 2013 02:42 PM (zeV2E)

 

You could always drive a milk truck.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2013 10:43 AM (DrWcr)

14 We have identified the vacation relief for MHP

Posted by: PK at December 31, 2013 10:43 AM (Hb/fI)

15 I award her no points.

Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 10:43 AM (EWsrI)

16 Ace, I'm sorry to puncture your mockery-balloon, but this is actually pretty sub-optimal when it comes to academic verbiage gobbledygook. I see much worse on a daily basis. I mean heck, 99% of the words in this diatribe are actual words that people understand. And where is the cis? This is amateur-level word-salad without at least two references per paragraph.

Posted by: zombie at December 31, 2013 10:43 AM (+cx5n)

17 So does this make drinking milk an antifeminist act?  Cool!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2013 10:44 AM (DrWcr)

18 I sincerely have no idea how we, as a nation, are trillions of dollars in debt when we have such brilliance being bought by the community chest....

Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 10:44 AM (TE35l)

19 Somewhere a moss covered rock is missing its menstruating idiot.

Posted by: garrett at December 31, 2013 10:44 AM (90tDX)

20 I want to wish President and Mrs Obama a Happy New Year as well as everyone in the world except that lying sack of dog dodo Bush.  Bush lied to us and I hope he has a lousy 2014....

Posted by: Chrissy Liebowitz at December 31, 2013 10:44 AM (iB0Q2)

21 WHEEEEEEEEEEE!

Posted by: Western Civilization [/i] [/b] at December 31, 2013 10:44 AM (dwArK)

22 Does It Bring All The Boys To The Yard?: A Poststructural Critique of McDonald's Milkshakes

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 31, 2013 10:44 AM (AwDBM)

23 9 Flatbush Joe at December 31, 2013 02:42 PM (ZPrif)

Finally something we agree on.

Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 10:44 AM (TE35l)

24 I mean, really, WTF is that supposed to mean?  I can't even read that.  I can make out individual words, but the way they are strung together deprive them of meaning.

Posted by: huerfano at December 31, 2013 10:45 AM (bAGA/)

25 without at least two cis references per paragraph. (clarifed)

Posted by: zombie at December 31, 2013 10:45 AM (+cx5n)

26 Ace bringing the mammaries!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 10:45 AM (cB3Ay)

27 Jesus, apparently semicolons aren't a tool of the phallocracy.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at December 31, 2013 10:45 AM (l2max)

28 I intended to boldface "all"

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 31, 2013 10:45 AM (AwDBM)

29 Since english isn't my first language, I had to read that drivel 3 times and I still don't know what the fuck they are talking about

Posted by: Ma Bell at December 31, 2013 10:45 AM (RLdcX)

30 W.T.F.

Posted by: fu52 at December 31, 2013 10:45 AM (NYXC6)

31 The title is missing a noun at the end or the indefinite article needs to be removed. Also, this paragraph can not be properly judged without pictures of breasts (human ones, and perky) nearby. I mean that's just intuitive.

Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 10:46 AM (EWsrI)

32 I thought cows liked being milked.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 31, 2013 10:46 AM (zeV2E)

33
Translation: No one asked me to the prom.

Posted by: Lead Slipper at December 31, 2013 10:46 AM (bkTIc)

34 The BALLS on that girl!

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 31, 2013 10:47 AM (JQuNB)

35 Because milk is produced by female mammals, a feminist perspective seems to offer a logical foundation for such inquiry.

Really?  Feminists identify with COWS? (Insert Hillary! joke here.)

They've got to be trolling us.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2013 10:47 AM (8ZskC)

36 You have yourself a deal, toots.  Next time you get to 'take one for the team'.

And bring me some bread crumbs when he's done, will you?

Posted by: The Chicken at December 31, 2013 10:47 AM (SY2Kh)

37 JSMN... Membership in MENSA, not so much.

Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion, and hoping its 404care at December 31, 2013 10:47 AM (IanLz)

38 24 I mean, really, WTF is that supposed to mean? I can't even read that. I can make out individual words, but the way they are strung together deprive them of meaning. Posted by: huerfano Don't you understand? The meaning is clear. Here is a translation: "I am using all the proper post-Marxist buzzwords, and I attack the Designated VIllains du jour. Please give me either an "A" (if I'm a student) or a grant (if I'm a professor). Thank you."

Posted by: zombie at December 31, 2013 10:47 AM (+cx5n)

39 See? That's the problem right there. How the hell are you going to parody that? It's parody-proof. The Postmodernists have found a way to make the jejune seem scholarly, all dressed up as "justice" for the "oppressed." Damnedest thing, and even the elite schools are knee-deep in it.

Posted by: Caliban at December 31, 2013 10:47 AM (2ArJQ)

40 Does this mean that a fur coat to an eco-feminist would be an inappropriate gift?

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at December 31, 2013 10:47 AM (OPzNA)

41 This is a joke right? Chinese parents are saving their whole lives to send their kids here to major in this shit? When I was in Med School our Psych class examined a published paper that Proved with geometric feminist methodology that the higher level of testosterone in someone's body the lower the IQ.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 31, 2013 10:47 AM (ofGPd)

42 We are all stupider for having read that......

Posted by: fu52 at December 31, 2013 10:47 AM (NYXC6)

43 33 Lead Slipper at December 31, 2013 02:46 PM (bkTIc)

Dat's funny, I twanswated it as "miwk lil' bawney instead of the mammae"

//Bawney Fwank esq

Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 10:47 AM (TE35l)

44 What a bunch of hoo haa.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 10:47 AM (P6QsQ)

45 From the start, feminism has been a movement for justice: at its heart is the centrality of praxis, the necessary linkage of intellectual, political, and activist work. Feminist methodology puts the lives of the oppressed at the center of the research question Oppressed? Take it up with God. He made you the life bringer.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 10:48 AM (cB3Ay)

46 Just reading that made me start lactating.

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at December 31, 2013 10:48 AM (5fSr7)

47 I'm calling Sokal on this.

Posted by: toby928© attempts the triple and but mostly construction at December 31, 2013 10:48 AM (QupBk)

48 I don't even have to read that wall of word salad to know that it's incomprehensible nonsense. By design, because they think it makes 'em sound wicked smaaaht.
They should be required to include an appendix that contains a diagram of each sentence that is longer than 18 words.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 31, 2013 10:48 AM (POpqt)

49 If people want to spend their time intellectually masturbating on this sort of nonsense, that's on them. 

Just don't ask me to pay for it.

Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 10:48 AM (PwGfd)

50 Sounds like something only an idiot could think of saying.

Posted by: Carol at December 31, 2013 10:48 AM (z4WKX)

51 "Because milk is produced by female mammals"

Wow, that's pretty cis-normative and classist.  Someone needs to check their privilege.

Posted by: Brendan at December 31, 2013 10:48 AM (2jQGY)

52 Oppressed? Take it up with God. He made you the life bringer.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 02:48 PM (cB3Ay)

 

Suck it, God!  We worship abortion now!

Posted by: Feminists at December 31, 2013 10:49 AM (DrWcr)

53 "I have nipples, Greg, could you milk me?"

Posted by: DeNiro Gettin' a Paycheck at December 31, 2013 10:49 AM (4I3Uo)

54 Okay, I couldn't even read that slop, but I'm thinking that if universities hold classes on boob juice sources, they won't have any trouble getting male students to sign up.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2013 10:49 AM (RxVu7)

55 "Churning out" Very funny, Ace.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 10:49 AM (BC6cY)

56 Milk me! Milk me now!!

Posted by: Dairy cow at December 31, 2013 10:49 AM (EWsrI)

57 To be fair to the author, I have read Movie Reviews that were more cumbersome.

Posted by: garrett at December 31, 2013 10:49 AM (90tDX)

58 9 Environmentalism is a doomsday cult that needs to be destroyed. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 31, 2013 02:42 PM (ZPrif) By any means available. Any.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 31, 2013 10:49 AM (+OEEs)

59 No. Churning would make it butter.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 31, 2013 10:49 AM (4/o9U)

60 51 "Because milk is produced by female mammals" Wow, that's pretty cis-normative and classist. Someone needs to check their privilege. Posted by: Brendan Nice catch! What if the cow was born with udders, but identifies as bull?

Posted by: zombie at December 31, 2013 10:49 AM (+cx5n)

61 BTW, I knew there was a damn reason I stopped drinking milk in the 3rd grade! No get the hell offa my lawn ya grazing bovine idjit.

Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion, and hoping its 404care at December 31, 2013 10:49 AM (IanLz)

62 51 Brendan at December 31, 2013 02:48 PM (2jQGY)

Quite what if the cow thinks it is a bull with a gland problem?

We need Bovine Linguistics and DSM-Cow

Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 10:50 AM (TE35l)

63 Talk about eyes glossing over... Shit, where's the Tylenol....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 31, 2013 10:50 AM (+OEEs)

64 Debating the number of angels which can fit on the head of a pin suddenly seems fairly sensible. The corporeal, or not, nature of things and so on is hard science compared to that swill.

Posted by: Beagle at December 31, 2013 10:50 AM (sOtz/)

65 "This is what universities (heavily subsidized by the US taxpayer) are churning out." And the essence of what is wrong with Universities nowadays is in that parenthesized section. "Heavily subsidized by the US taxpayer." Get rid of that, and most of the asshole socialists would be out of a job.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 31, 2013 10:50 AM (bb5+k)

66 Once we figure out how to capitalize on learned stupidity, we're gonna own the fucking market!!!

Posted by: Western Civilization [/i] [/b] at December 31, 2013 10:51 AM (dwArK)

67 I have always identified more as a Bull. Call me Bodacious.

Posted by: Bessie the Milk Cow at December 31, 2013 10:51 AM (90tDX)

68 Oh yeah! Drain me! Fill that bucket!

Posted by: Dairy cow at December 31, 2013 10:51 AM (EWsrI)

69 The truly frightening thing about that mind-numbingly stupid spiel is that there are people who would read it or sit through a class on it, and not laugh right out loud.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2013 10:51 AM (RxVu7)

70 F*** milk, talk tequila, and we're in business....

Posted by: fred zeppelin at December 31, 2013 10:51 AM (zL/eJ)

71 The only thing I'm oppressed by are these stupid leftists.  Can't we make them stop?

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 10:51 AM (P6QsQ)

72 Wow. Theres 45 seconds I will never get back. Thats pretty much the most useless pap I have ever read. Fucking dynamic inaction. She would have been more productive if she had cut a loud and panty staining fart.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2013 10:51 AM (xWW96)

73 Since english isn't my first language, I had to read that drivel 3 times and I still don't know what the fuck they are talking about Posted by: Ma Bell Don't feel bad. English IS my first language & I don't know what the fuck was said.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 10:52 AM (cB3Ay)

74 No. Churning would make it butter. Butter than what? ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 10:52 AM (BC6cY)

75 PRO TIP: Before tipping the cow, confirm the presence of udders.

Posted by: Andrew Mendoza and His Bucket at December 31, 2013 10:52 AM (8ZskC)

76 I'd like to thank Tits Johnson for that stream of authentic ivory tower gibberish.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 31, 2013 10:52 AM (659DL)

77 Weapon's grade stupid.


They apparently don't know that a cow can explode if she's not milked twice daily.


And that human brains actually contract in the face of this sort of "intelligence."

Posted by: tcn at December 31, 2013 10:52 AM (fwcEs)

78 I am not a man = oppressed.



If you say so Bessie.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 10:53 AM (P6QsQ)

79 How much did we kick to Sallie Mae to make that little miracle happen?

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 31, 2013 10:53 AM (lQ5/A)

80 Some women shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Posted by: AngieS at December 31, 2013 10:53 AM (rCx/f)

81 I dunno what any of this means but it makes my tits itchy.  Maybe I should fix the humidifier?

Posted by: DaveA at December 31, 2013 10:53 AM (DL2i+)

82 useless pap Yes, that article is certainly pun worthy. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 10:53 AM (BC6cY)

83 Why does every feminist think she's Hedley fucking LaMarr?

Posted by: Clownf*cker at December 31, 2013 10:53 AM (5npD/)

84 You better use it for pancakes and hot chocolate, asshole! You give any to the fucking cat and you are fucking dead, bitch!

Posted by: Dairy cow at December 31, 2013 10:54 AM (EWsrI)

85 I reached praxis once with an eco-feminist. It wasn't that great.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at December 31, 2013 10:54 AM (OPzNA)

86 What a bunch of bull I mean cow shit

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 31, 2013 10:54 AM (HVff2)

87 Quite what if the cow thinks it is a bull with a gland problem? It won't get tipped over??

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 10:54 AM (cB3Ay)

88 73 - Rick - don't feel bad - I have an MS in CompSci, and even my cranial database is giving me 601 messages after reading that.

Mr. Oxford just ping'd me - said he'd seen better scrid on an outhouse wall...

Posted by: fred zeppelin at December 31, 2013 10:54 AM (zL/eJ)

89 It is stuff like this that makes me appreciate how sane most of my professors were in grad school. Of course, it was a university in the southeast and the history department, which probably helped. The sad thing is that this is probably not just gobbledygook - a lot of these words mean something specific to the people that she is writing for. I do think that a lot of academic writing is designed to show off the writer's knowledge to their peers, though, and has been since the Middle Ages.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 31, 2013 10:54 AM (VUDJK)

90 This reminds of me of a highly detailed post-modern feminist analysis of 2 Girls 1 Cup. Of course the student who wrote it was parodying this sort of baffle with bullshit scholarly language in order to illustrate that you can write this nonsense literally about shit and make it sound intelligent. He got an F. This Milk Lady gets published. No real difference other than Milk Lady believes it.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 31, 2013 10:54 AM (zeV2E)

91 >>> When I hear the word "praxis," that's when I unlock the safety catch on my Browning Gun nut

Posted by: Buckethead at December 31, 2013 10:54 AM (Ua6T/)

92 #65

This (ie see #49).

The problem isn't that people spend their time writing this garbage, its that the entire enterprise wouldn't exist without taxpayer subsidy.

IE, in the "free market of ideas", this slop goes on "clearance sale" pretty fast.

Anyway, whoever wrote this idiotic diatribe on milk should be proud of herself.  This is the most publicity her "work" will ever receive, and this probably represents the absolute pinnacle of her academic career. 

After next week, she'll be steaming milks at Starbucks part time for minimum wage (sans benefits). . .assuming they're hiring. . .probably not. 



Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 10:54 AM (6Q9g2)

93 These comments are udderly ridiculous.

Posted by: Elsie, Chewing Her Cud at December 31, 2013 10:55 AM (JQuNB)

94 So....do you think the author of this paper also supports knitting with yarn stowed in one's own vajayjay, or is yarn one of the diverse products of animal oppression. 'Cause otherwise, I'm thinking those two would hit it off...

Posted by: Lizzy at December 31, 2013 10:56 AM (POpqt)

95 Hell, 2/3's of what I learned in architecture school was how to justify my designs with bullshit language. Seems like that could have been managed by teleconference, if not outright correspondence.

Posted by: tcn at December 31, 2013 10:56 AM (fwcEs)

96 What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: Hillary Rottencrotch Clinton at December 31, 2013 10:56 AM (GgPam)

97 If I had a dime every time I heard the word "praxis" in graduate school, I'd have enough money to buy one of the Big Three networks.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 31, 2013 10:56 AM (oFCZn)

98 Dammit! I haven't finish my copy of Essays of Nativism by Ward Churchill yet and now you come up with this.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 31, 2013 10:56 AM (l3vZN)

99 utterly ridiculous

Posted by: pull my finger at December 31, 2013 10:56 AM (NcSi2)

100 #90. . . you can write this nonsense literally about shit and make it sound intelligent. He got an F. This Milk Lady gets published. No real difference other than Milk Lady believes it.
===

You think she actually believes it?

IMO, this is probably a case of the emperor having no clothes.  Everyone involved knows the exercise is F.O.S, but they all have their individual reasons not to say so.


Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 10:56 AM (6Q9g2)

101 A classic example of intellectualism vs. intellect

Posted by: weew at December 31, 2013 10:56 AM (EaEMG)

102 You better bring some clover tomorrow!

Posted by: Dairy cow at December 31, 2013 10:57 AM (EWsrI)

103 About the author:



Greta Claire Gaard (born 1960, Hollywood, California) is an ecofeminist writer, scholar, activist, and documentary filmmaker.


Gaard's academic work in the realms of ecocriticism and ecocomposition is widely cited by scholars in the disciplines of composition and literary criticism. Her theoretical work extending ecofeminist thought into queer theory, vegetarianism, and animal liberation has been influential within women's studies. A cofounder of the Minnesota Green Party, Gaard documented the transition of the U.S. Green movement into the Green Party of the United States in her book, Ecological Politics.


She is currently a professor of English at University of Wisconsin-River Falls and a community faculty member in Women's Studies at Metropolitan State University, Twin Cities.


Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 10:57 AM (P6QsQ)

104 The "pets" in scare quotes perfectly encapsulates their lack of actual scientific knowledge. But for human interaction with wolves and wild dogs over tens of thousands of years there are no (what we call) dogs. Dogs are a lucky accident of genetics, what you get when wolves are selected for a lack of aggression for generations. The Russian wolf experiments proved it. So releasing domestic dogs in the wild is not doing them any favors. Anyone who has ever owned a good dog knows this with rock solid certainty. Dogs are pets, no scare quotes needed. Releasing Bessie the diary cow on the African savannah is not optimal either. For Bessie anyway.

Posted by: Beagle at December 31, 2013 10:57 AM (sOtz/)

105 87 rickb223 at December 31, 2013 02:54 PM (cB3Ay)

Hop the hell in here with me!

//Elsie the bull

Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 10:57 AM (TE35l)

106 As I have a few minutes to kill, I looked for a photo of Greta and found one of her crouching in a pen with cows. I guess she was studying their udders for the milk story? There is another of her with a gorilla named Lori. I am not sure of their relationship.


Posted by: ChristyBlinky is a genius compared to preznit at December 31, 2013 10:57 AM (baL2B)

107 94 So....do you think the author of this paper also supports knitting with yarn stowed in one's own vajayjay, or is yarn one of the diverse products of animal oppression. 'Cause otherwise, I'm thinking those two would hit it off...

Posted by: Lizzy at December 31, 2013 02:56 PM (POpqt)


I'm thinking that knitter had a lot in common with MHP and her government tampons.

Posted by: tcn at December 31, 2013 10:57 AM (fwcEs)

108 99 utterly ridiculous

Posted by: pull my finger at December 31, 2013 02:56 PM (NcSi2)



Please, "udderly." This is Wisconsin, and we know cows, not to mention manure.

Posted by: tcn at December 31, 2013 10:58 AM (fwcEs)

109 You better bring some clover tomorrow! Posted by: Dairy cow Or the entire herd will make hay over this!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 10:58 AM (cB3Ay)

110 Because milk is produced by female mammals And tofu. She isn't as special as she thinks she is.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 31, 2013 10:58 AM (xSegX)

111 "Motivated by an intellectual and experiential understanding of the mutually reinforcing interconnections among diverse forms of oppression, vegan feminists and ecofeminists positioned their own liberation and well-being as variously raced, classed, gendered, and sexual humans to be fundamentally interconnected to the well-being of other nondominant human and animal species, augmenting Patricia Hill CollinsÂ’s definition of intersectionality to include species as well."

***
Let's run this through the translator:

"Dark and lonely on the summer night.
Kill my landlord, kill my landlord.
Watchdog barking - Do he bite?
Kill my landlord, kill my landlord.
Slip in his window,
Break his neck!
Then his house
I start to wreck!
Got no reason --
What the heck!
Kill my landlord, kill my landlord.
C-I-L-L ...
My land - lord ...
Def!"

Posted by: B at December 31, 2013 10:59 AM (Pson9)

112 She is currently a professor of English at University of Wisconsin-River Falls

Parents might want to ask for their money back.

Posted by: HeideRadieschen at December 31, 2013 10:59 AM (nMYaa)

113 Shorter: She's full of shit, but it's tenured shit. So FYNQ.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 31, 2013 10:59 AM (lQ5/A)

114 I forget who first said it or how they coined it, but this is another example of an activist movement / organization that exists for the sole purpose of perpetuating itself.

No matter what goals they succeed in achieving (letting Women vote and drive, e.g. 'Our Biggest Mistakes Ever'), there will always be more.  The goalposts must always be moved- never shall the movement be allowed to declare victory and go home.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 31, 2013 10:59 AM (SY2Kh)

115 I'm doing my part.  I only drink milk from free-range cows.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2013 10:59 AM (8ZskC)

116 70 F*** milk, talk tequila, and we're in business.... Posted by: fred zeppelin at December 31, 2013 02:51 PM (zL/eJ) Oh, I dunno. I had a pretty good time over the holidays with egg nog liberally enhanced with cheap rum.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2013 10:59 AM (RxVu7)

117 Is Sugartits the author of this brilliance?

Posted by: kevlarchick at December 31, 2013 10:59 AM (+dlqq)

118 Someone should shit in her mouth.

Posted by: Martin Bashir at December 31, 2013 11:00 AM (GgPam)

119 Esteemed scholar at the University of Wisconsin-River Falls. ROTFLMAO

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at December 31, 2013 11:00 AM (IyUTN)

120 >>Because milk is produced by female mammals

Or almonds.
Way to completely ignore Lactose-Intolerant-Americans, lady!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 31, 2013 11:00 AM (POpqt)

121 104 Beagle at December 31, 2013 02:57 PM (sOtz/)

It's hubris dear Beagle....hubris

We simply MUST be smarter than the ancients because we have I-phones and can type such tripe...

now quick go breed me an orange tree, or a domesticated wolverine....

exactly.

I am in awe of the people who nutrified Buearegard Parishes soil as they did....

I can't do it..."yet."

Posted by: Sven10077 at December 31, 2013 11:00 AM (TE35l)

122 Greta Gaard



sounds scandi

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 11:00 AM (P6QsQ)

123 Releasing Bessie the diary cow on the African savannah is not optimal either. For Bessie anyway.
===

Does she write post-modernist eco-feminist diaries?

Maybe she skip the Savannah gig and get a job working for the University of Wisconsin Twin Falls.

Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 11:01 AM (6Q9g2)

124

@4 When I hear the word "praxis," that's when I unlock the safety catch on my Browning.

----------------

 

Sounds like a fictional country.

 

In fact, I think that's what it was - something in the Glorantha (Dragon Pass, Heroquest) setting.

 

Posted by: junior at December 31, 2013 11:01 AM (UWFpX)

125 Good god is it too early to start drinking I have lost millions of brain cells just trying to read that drivel.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 31, 2013 11:01 AM (KuZ6A)

126 English IS my first language & I don't know what the fuck was said.

It was a lament.  The author has realized that she's as useless to society as tits on a bull, and it's everyone else's fault.

Posted by: HeideRadieschen at December 31, 2013 11:02 AM (nMYaa)

127 "100 You think she actually believes it? IMO, this is probably a case of the emperor having no clothes. Everyone involved knows the exercise is F.O.S, but they all have their individual reasons not to say so." That may be true. It might be more like these professors have to produce 5 papers a year to keep tenure to keep the higher education fleecing scheme going. At this point they've run out of intelligent papers they could write about let's say Shakespeare or Milton so are now content to just get that 5 paper quota no matter what they are actually saying.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 31, 2013 11:02 AM (zeV2E)

128 Species is just a social construct. Love knows to bounds!

Posted by: The NEXT Marriage Equality campaign at December 31, 2013 11:02 AM (AymDN)

129 122 Greta Gaard



sounds scandi

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 03:00 PM (P6QsQ)



Actually, it's a douche.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at December 31, 2013 11:02 AM (GgPam)

130 16 Ace, I'm sorry to puncture your mockery-balloon, but this is actually pretty sub-optimal when it comes to academic verbiage gobbledygook. I see much worse on a daily basis. I mean heck, 99% of the words in this diatribe are actual words that people understand. Agreed.

Posted by: m at December 31, 2013 11:02 AM (omrQI)

131 Bessie will be dead before nightfall. Trust me on this, tree huggers.

Posted by: tubal the bad at December 31, 2013 11:02 AM (YEQ2h)

132 Bitch probably wrote her Doctorial on the lint she dug out of her navel.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2013 11:02 AM (xWW96)

133 Why didnÂ’t I write this? I could have done field studies!

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at Cowrnell at December 31, 2013 11:02 AM (WX3R9)

134 Praxis was the first Capital of Peruvia.

Posted by: garrett at December 31, 2013 11:02 AM (YgtGU)

135

@29 Since english isn't my first language, I had to read that drivel 3 times and I still don't know what the fuck they are talking about

---------------

 

I was an English major, and, well, I don't understand it either.

 

Posted by: junior at December 31, 2013 11:03 AM (UWFpX)

136 Motivated by an intellectual and experiential understanding of the mutually reinforcing interconnections among diverse forms of oppression, vegan feminists and ecofeminists positioned their own liberation and well-being as variously raced, classed, gendered, and sexual humans to be fundamentally interconnected to the well-being of other nondominant human and animal species, augmenting Patricia Hill CollinsÂ’s definition of intersectionality to include species as well. This means no oppressed beings (women) be free unless all oppressed beings (non-human species) are free. Of course a cow can't give consent. How could it do so in a barn-centric hegemony?

Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 11:03 AM (EWsrI)

137 Ah, watching New Years fireworks in Dubai. Expensive shit, but entertaining

Posted by: Ma Bell at December 31, 2013 11:04 AM (RLdcX)

138 I will not make a strained joke and post accompanying picture of large breasted femaleÂ….. I will not makeÂ…..

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 31, 2013 11:04 AM (JpFMR)

139 "First of all, we must internalize the 'flatulation' of the matter by transmitting the effervescence of the 'Indianisian' proximity in order to further segregate the crux of my venereal infection. Now, if I may retain my liquids here for one moment. I'd like to continue the 'redundance' of my quote, unquote 'intestinal tract', you see because to preclude on the issue of world domination would only circumvent - excuse me, circumcise the revelation that reflects the 'Afro-disiatic' symptoms which now perpetrates the Jheri Curis activation. Allow me to expose my colon once again. The ramification inflicted on the incision placed within the Fallopian cavities serves to be holistic taken from the Latin word 'jalapeno'."

Posted by: B at December 31, 2013 11:04 AM (Pson9)

140 We'd like to confirm that our shakes don't actually contain, you know, milk. Because hate.

Posted by: McDonald's at December 31, 2013 11:04 AM (JQuNB)

141 I think I could help her.

Posted by: Bob Filner at December 31, 2013 11:05 AM (l3vZN)

142 Just read that Rod Dreher/Time article on Duck Dynasty from the sidebar. That guy really is an asshat.

Posted by: Caliban at December 31, 2013 11:05 AM (2ArJQ)

143 @26 Yeah but this post is useless without pix, rickb.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at December 31, 2013 11:05 AM (a4V7U)

144 Graduates of UW-River Falls seen grabbing their diplomas and heading for retail jobs at Farm 'n Fleet

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 11:05 AM (P6QsQ)

145

Posted by: B at December 31, 2013 03:04 PM (Pson9)

Better than what Idiot Stick wrote, and more entertaining.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2013 11:05 AM (xWW96)

146 No wonder the feminist are always angry and protesting everything. Who the fuck wants to hang out with a people like this?

Posted by: YIKES! at December 31, 2013 11:06 AM (mETGQ)

147 In fact, I think that's what it was - something in the Glorantha (Dragon Pass, Heroquest) setting. My first D&D character was a priest of Ra named Praxos. So IÂ’ve got that going for me.

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at Cowrnell at December 31, 2013 11:06 AM (WX3R9)

148 So I guess this means that "planting the flag" between a willing lady's milk bombs is now strictly off limits. For shame. Is NOTHING sacred anymore!?!?

Posted by: Sharkman at December 31, 2013 11:06 AM (WAjTB)

149
All this, all of it, is concocted to challenge the norms, i.e., Fuck With Normal.

Do not be sucked in.

So to speak.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 31, 2013 11:06 AM (afIp+)

150 Yeah, not the strangest animal rights things I've seen.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 11:06 AM (GaqMa)

151 In other embarrassing feminist moments, the Marine Corps. is doing away with its mandatory pull-up standards, because women keep failing it. http://www.npr.org/2013/12/27/257363943/marines-most-female-recruits-dont-meet-new-pullup-standard

Posted by: TenthJustice at December 31, 2013 11:07 AM (qB8lN)

152 That was hard to read. You'd think that women of all people would know when to use a period.

Posted by: Max Entropy at December 31, 2013 11:07 AM (QKYRm)

153 That was hard to read. You'd think that women of all people would know when to use a period. Heyyyyoooooooohhhhhhh

Posted by: eleven at December 31, 2013 11:08 AM (Hy7dS)

154 >>Motivated by an intellectual and experiential understanding of the mutually reinforcing interconnections among diverse forms of oppression, vegan feminists and ecofeminists positioned their own liberation and well-being as variously raced, classed, gendered, and sexual humans to be fundamentally interconnected to the well-being of other nondominant human and animal species Except the Romneys, of course. Lulz.

Posted by: Melissa HP at December 31, 2013 11:08 AM (SUKHu)

155 A visual aid: http://tinyurl.com/lghovpe

Posted by: The Kyriarchical Hat at December 31, 2013 11:08 AM (AymDN)

156 Species is just a social construct. Love knows to bounds! Posted by: The NEXT Marriage Equality campaign at December 31, 2013 03:02 PM (AymDN) Why not? If you can seriously argue that gender has no objective physical reality and is merely a "social construct" anything is possible.

Posted by: Beagle at December 31, 2013 11:09 AM (sOtz/)

157 How about a course called: Gender Roles and the spider in the bath tub.

Posted by: YIKES! at December 31, 2013 11:09 AM (mETGQ)

158 Posted by: grammie winger Thank you. I recently met an "economist" who got her degree there. She did post grad in North Vietnam. There must be a way to build a moat of fire around that damn city.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 31, 2013 11:09 AM (8/zF9)

159 That lady's just beggin' for me to jizz in her milkshake.

Posted by: That soda jerk behind the counter scooping ice cream at December 31, 2013 11:09 AM (MNq6o)

160 You know Greta does not shave and reeks of patchouli (on good days, when not milking cows and crouching in barn yards). I wonder if she knows she is being studied by morons today?

I think there will be messages left like this at her office: "Hello, Greta? You are full of bullshite. I am concerned you were weaned too soon from the teat, but are now on the tenured teat, so why the angst and liverwurst? It appears, from what I can decipher, you find big words and throw them together like a ninja blender.Where did I read your story? Oh, Ace of Spades. Yes, you are read by morons."

"Centrality of praxis" my fat arse.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is a genius compared to preznit at December 31, 2013 11:10 AM (baL2B)

161 159 That lady's just beggin' for me to jizz in her milkshake. Posted by: That soda jerk behind the counter scooping ice cream at December 31, 2013 03:09 PM (MNq6o) Puts a whole new twist on the phrase "soda jerk," doesn't it?

Posted by: TenthJustice at December 31, 2013 11:10 AM (qB8lN)

162 Let's get her a grant to present her paper in say, Kandahar.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 31, 2013 11:11 AM (659DL)

163 Yeah but this post is useless without pix, rickb. Posted by: Y-not Cake girl or Kate Upton would suffice.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 11:11 AM (cB3Ay)

164
The only thing missing in a feminist life is a strong hard dick!

(Ducks and runs)

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 31, 2013 11:11 AM (pJF+c)

165 So I actually looked up pictures of Greta Gaard. Errrr, I *might* not hit that, but if I did it would be weird and uncomfortable. Too bad, was really hoping for a pleasant surprise this time.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2013 11:11 AM (qyfb5)

166 Posted by: Beagle at December 31, 2013 02:57 PM (sOtz/) Eh, these idiots have an anthropology in which humans are just "one animal among many." Whereas most religions see humans as a special part of creation, above the animals if you will. The Catholic Catechism even says man has "dominion over nature." But to these fucktards that's just wrong because...equality. Oddly though not everything, only vertebrates, and to some only mid level to higher vertebrates (e.g. not fish.) Granted in their own framework that distinction is entirely arbitrary (and gets even more arbitrary as you enter the world of "pests.") because they really have no justification for...well anything.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 11:11 AM (GaqMa)

167 is it too early to start drinking

I don't understand the question. 

Posted by: HeideRadieschen at December 31, 2013 11:11 AM (nMYaa)

168 Academia is just a mad race to build the biggest pile of horseshit.

Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 11:12 AM (MMC8r)

169 134 Praxis was the first Capital of Peruvia. Posted by: garrett at December 31, 2013 03:02 PM (YgtGU) Destroyed by Attila the Hun if memory serves correctly.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 31, 2013 11:12 AM (oFCZn)

170 I'm not bad at recognizing bovine scatology when I see it. The quoted article is 100% USDA inspected, approved in triplicate, moved up the ladder for peer reviewed till someone's eyes fucking bled, antithesis to Chanel No. 5, stinky assed foul smelling bullshit. Funded and approved by the US taxpayer no doubt without their fucking approval.

On another topic, Happy New Year to all the morons. May we make it an epic one.

Posted by: Big old fat guy at December 31, 2013 11:12 AM (BpQmM)

171 This Milk Lady gets published. No real difference other than Milk Lady believes it. Posted by: Naes1984 at December 31, 2013 02:54 PM (zeV2E) Milk Lady, huh? Bet she doesn't have much in common with that Cake Lady that you morons are all so enthralled with.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2013 11:12 AM (RxVu7)

172 Feminist Postcolonial Milk Studies. The mere idea that some egghead fucknozzle could step back from her computer and think that was a good idea tells you everything you need to know.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 31, 2013 11:12 AM (FciyD)

173 Cake girl or Kate Upton would suffice. Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 03:11 PM (cB3Ay) I'm all about The Kates (Beckinsale and Upton), but I have to say Cake Girl is the top of the food pyramid.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2013 11:12 AM (qyfb5)

174 I am flatuoseintolerant

Posted by: tmitsss at December 31, 2013 11:12 AM (7Rx8v)

175 These studies are written by women who need a good strong man with a pickup truck. Do your duty - romp an sad, homely chick before they do this to their brains.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at December 31, 2013 11:13 AM (xJS2Q)

176 In other embarrassing feminist moments, the Marine Corps. is doing away with its mandatory pull-up standards, because women keep failing it.
=====

I think its doing away with them FOR WOMEN.

I don't think that's crazy in and of itself.  Standards are good, but if the bar is set so high that most people can't reach it, then the standards themselves aren't helpful.

Along those lines, you can't expect female recruits to have the same upper body strength as male recruits. . .and shocker. . .that's what the Marines are finding with testing.   The only way its reasonable to hold them to the exact same standard is if they're going to be tasked to the exact same activities (which, in this case, I don't think they are).

Unless the specific goal of this standard is to exclude female recruits from service, the key is to set a high standard that most of the recruits can actually REACH.  


Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 11:13 AM (6Q9g2)

177 Praxis was the first Capital of Peruvia. Posted by: garrett at December 31, 2013 03:02 PM (YgtGU) It's also name of what's left of our moon.

Posted by: Worf at December 31, 2013 11:13 AM (mETGQ)

178 Authentic Left-wing jibberish.

Posted by: Zeke Johnson at December 31, 2013 11:13 AM (MMC8r)

179 People dunk chocolate donuts in milk. Drowning the Black Man in the White Ocean.

Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 11:13 AM (EWsrI)

180 Milk Lady, huh? Bet she doesn't have much in common with that Cake Lady that you morons are all so enthralled with. Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2013 03:12 PM (RxVu7) Well, enthralled is a sort of synonym for worship. But we like nerdy girls most of all!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2013 11:13 AM (qyfb5)

181 Tuff Hedeman once called me gender confused . I crushed his face . Fin. Bodacious , all bull babee .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 31, 2013 11:13 AM (WK8VM)

182
It's true. THIS is what you get when a society is so plush and democratic, people just need to find new ways to feel slighted.

Because Progressivism never rests.

And, yeah, this is progress.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 31, 2013 11:13 AM (afIp+)

183 “Toward a Feminist Postcolonial Milk Studies”

Successful completion of this course will qualify the candidate for a career as a professional manicurist.*

*Manicurist training and cosmetology license may also be required.  Check state and local regulations.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2013 11:14 AM (8ZskC)

184 138 I will not make a strained joke and post accompanying picture of large breasted femaleÂ….. I will not makeÂ….. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 31, 2013 03:04 PM (JpFMR) Chicken. Cluck, cluck, cluck

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 31, 2013 11:14 AM (HVff2)

185 @180 With big tits

Posted by: Big old fat guy at December 31, 2013 11:14 AM (BpQmM)

186 The only thing missing in a feminist life is a strong hard dick!

(Ducks and runs)
Posted by: Doctor Fish


We've got that covered.

Posted by: The plastics industry at December 31, 2013 11:14 AM (MNq6o)

187 Dogs are pets, no scare quotes needed. Dogs are members of our tribe, or pack, if you will. Coworkers even.

Posted by: toby928© attempts the triple and but mostly construction at December 31, 2013 11:14 AM (QupBk)

188 interrogates material contexts WHERE ARE THEY!?!

Posted by: Batman, Interrogating a Concept[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 31, 2013 11:14 AM (4QSOR)

189 Oh, and Kill the Humanities. Requiring a little calculus will take care of a lot of this crap.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 31, 2013 11:14 AM (xSegX)

190 In other embarrassing feminist moments, the Marine Corps. is doing away with its mandatory pull-up standards, because women keep failing it. ===== I think its doing away with them FOR WOMEN. I don't think that's crazy in and of itself. Standards are good, but if the bar is set so high that most people can't reach it, then the standards themselves aren't helpful. Three is too high a bar?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 11:15 AM (cB3Ay)

191 OT.
I thought of you morons when I took this photo.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10297889@N08/11672911245/

Posted by: HeideRadieschen at December 31, 2013 11:15 AM (nMYaa)

192 am i supposed to be enraged?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at December 31, 2013 11:15 AM (8v/hq)

193 After next week, she'll be steaming milks at Starbucks part time for minimum wage (sans benefits). . .assuming they're hiring. . .probably not. Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 02:54 PM (6Q9g2) Gawd no. Would you want to have to listen to that boob, yeah I said it, while you latte is being prepared?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2013 11:15 AM (RxVu7)

194 Authentic Left-wing jibberish. Posted by: Zeke Johnson at December 31, 2013 03:13 PM (MMC8r) Zeke Johnson is right!

Posted by: Howard Johnson[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2013 11:15 AM (qyfb5)

195 "centrality of praxis"? WTF is that. Can someone here explain that? Nevermind the rest of the shit

Posted by: Ma Bell at December 31, 2013 11:15 AM (RLdcX)

196 I think she should take her victim studies to South Africa. She could interact with the male oppressed lionesses. Offer them milk maybe.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 31, 2013 11:15 AM (dOgaW)

197 164 The only thing missing in a feminist life is a strong hard dick! (Ducks and runs) &&&& Don't you mean (whip it out)?

Posted by: fluffy isn't that brave, either at December 31, 2013 11:16 AM (Ua6T/)

198 <sigh>

Posted by: Kate Upton's Boobs at December 31, 2013 11:16 AM (x/lJo)

199 >>In other embarrassing feminist moments, the Marine Corps. is doing away
with its mandatory pull-up standards, because women keep failing it.

Can't wait to see what they have to do in order to get women into the SEALS. Because you just know that will happen. (And when it does I'll re-read Marcus Luttrell's book to see why most men don't make it into the SEALS).

Posted by: Lizzy at December 31, 2013 11:16 AM (POpqt)

200 Are we sure this isn't an Ace parody from 2005? This is Exhibit A as to why you can't argue with a hard-core leftist. The concept of "reason" has left the building.

Posted by: duke at December 31, 2013 11:16 AM (d3clc)

201 I don't think that's crazy in and of itself. Standards are good, but if the bar is set so high that most people can't reach it, then the standards themselves aren't helpful. Along those lines, you can't expect female recruits to have the same upper body strength as male recruits. . .and shocker. . .that's what the Marines are finding with testing. The only way its reasonable to hold them to the exact same standard is if they're going to be tasked to the exact same activities (which, in this case, I don't think they are). Unless the specific goal of this standard is to exclude female recruits from service, the key is to set a high standard that most of the recruits can actually REACH. Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 03:13 PM (6Q9g2) UmmmÂ…yes, it is stupid. Want to be a Marine? Great. Here are the standards. Can't cut it? Too fucking bad. Of course most people can't reach the standards. That's the fucking point. You want the best. You don't want Millie Milksop or Adam Assmunch in the USMC.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 31, 2013 11:17 AM (JpFMR)

202 94 So....do you think the author of this paper also supports knitting with yarn stowed in one's own vajayjay, or is yarn one of the diverse products of animal oppression. 'Cause otherwise, I'm thinking those two would hit it off... Posted by: Lizzy at December 31, 2013 02:56 PM (POpqt) Thanks for the reminder. I can't look at a sweater now, without wondering where it's been.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2013 11:17 AM (RxVu7)

203 People dunk chocolate donuts in milk.

Drowning the Black Man in the White Ocean.

Posted by: eman


You know I put my dick in those donuts every morning,  right?

Posted by: That weird guy behind the counter at the donut shop at December 31, 2013 11:17 AM (MNq6o)

204 Requiring a little calculus will take care of a lot of this crap. Posted by: AmishDude at December 31, 2013 03:14 PM (xSegX) You, Sir, are a clear thinker.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 31, 2013 11:17 AM (l3vZN)

205 The fact that "ecofeminism" is even a thing makes me indescribably angry. What, do they think global warming is going to specifically target women? Or that Mother Earth... oh, now I get it.

Posted by: TenthJustice at December 31, 2013 11:17 AM (qB8lN)

206 Posted by: AmishDude at December 31, 2013 03:14 PM (xSegX I shall have you know that I took calc 2. I got a B-, but I still took it. Granted I was a biology major in undergrad before I turned to bioethics. Heck, if my fellow students are any indication you could weed out this crap with a simple trig class, it wouldn't even take calc .

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 11:17 AM (GaqMa)

207 "Hell, 2/3's of what I learned in architecture school was how to justify my designs with bullshit language. Seems like that could have been managed by teleconference, if not outright correspondence."

That particular didactic attribute of of my 4 years of sleep deprivation made me want to strive to achieve a harmonious balance of  the vertical and horizontal by defenestrating any number of grad assistants and never-been-there-never-done-that profs from the 4th floor.

Posted by: Jaws at December 31, 2013 11:18 AM (4I3Uo)

208 How do we know in those species, the milk-producing sex is the female? Who died and made this lady queen of deciding which sex is which among other species?

Other than that, if those animals are docile enough to let humans milk them, they get what they deserve. You notice we don't go around milking lionesses, do we? Yeah, there's a reason for that and it's because lionesses won't stand for it like a cow does.

Posted by: Sudden Clarity Clarence at December 31, 2013 11:18 AM (cUbs5)

209
Damn, that Postmodernism Generator program is amazing, isn't it?



Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2013 11:18 AM (TIIx5)

210 Her first anthology, Ecofeminism: Women, Animals, Nature (Temple University Press, 1993), positioned species relations at the center of ecofeminist ethics. Her most recent works on animals in space exploration, an ecofeminist perspective on milk, and fireworksÂ’ effects on animals and environment are all forthcoming in 2013.

Here's her picture:

http://tinyurl.com/ojfjge9

I for one, can't wait to read Dr. Gaards opinions on the effect of fireworks on animals.

And here is her film "Ecofeminism now":

http://tinyurl.com/18r


Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 11:19 AM (PwGfd)

211
I humped a man once in my life and it was a disgusting event.  I now pray to the Pussy God, and trust she fulfills my wish for a cornucopia of ass.  Yes, I'm a hard nosed feminist and supporter of liberal causes.  Fuck conservatism!

Posted by: Margaret Cho at December 31, 2013 11:19 AM (pJF+c)

212 Jebus. That fucking waste of space wrote 25 pages of that shit. 25 PAGES.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2013 11:19 AM (xWW96)

213 Authentic Left-wing jibberish. Posted by: Zeke Johnson at December 31, 2013 03:13 PM (MMC8r) Zeke Johnson is right! Posted by: Howard Johnson Howard Johnson's affirmation of Zeke Johnson's comment is also correct! // Johnson's Johnson

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 11:19 AM (cB3Ay)

214 Unless the specific goal of this standard is to exclude female recruits from service, the key is to set a high standard that most of the recruits can actually REACH. Most of the recruits from a particular pool can reach that standard. Unfortunately, it's cis-something-or-other to only recruit persons who can be weapons platforms effectively.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 31, 2013 11:19 AM (4QSOR)

215 195 "centrality of praxis"?

WTF is that. Can someone here explain that? Nevermind the rest of the shit

Posted by: Ma Bell at December 31, 2013 03:15 PM (RLdcX)


I am pretty sure "x" is involved, axis of evil. Therefore, drink.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is a genius compared to preznit at December 31, 2013 11:19 AM (baL2B)

216
Greta Gaard is professor of English at the University of Wisconsin-River Falls, and a Community Faculty in WomenÂ’s Studies at Metropolitan State University in St. Paul, MN.

Her ecofeminist scholarship and activism span over two decades and include literary criticism, environmental ethics, pedagogical studies, creative nonfiction*, critical animal studies, and social movement narratives.

Her most recent works on animals in space exploration, an ecofeminist perspective on milk, and fireworksÂ’ effects on animals** and environment are all forthcoming in 2013.



* making shit up

 ** blowing shit up

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 31, 2013 11:19 AM (kdS6q)

217 @166 It is hard to imagine wasting so many lives in pseudoscientific race-gender-sex-socialism disciplines instead of productive capacities not coming back to seriously hurt us in the fairly near term. The vast majority of the world sees this rightly as weird obsessive insanity, a luxury for a confused culture on the way down.

Posted by: Beagle at December 31, 2013 11:19 AM (sOtz/)

218 Cow poetry is pretty bad.

Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 11:20 AM (EWsrI)

219 She deserves a grant!

Posted by: Feminist PostColonial Dairy Industry at December 31, 2013 11:20 AM (MMC8r)

220 >>The fact that "ecofeminism" is even a thing makes me indescribably angry.

Kinda like "environmental justice." Because polution is racist or something.

Blair's Law: The ongoing process by which the world's multiple idiocies are becoming one giant, useless force.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 31, 2013 11:20 AM (POpqt)

221 Wasn't Praxis that Klingon moon that blew up in Star Trek VI?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2013 11:20 AM (qyfb5)

222 Ecofeminism: Women, Animals, Nature

I've eaten a cheeseburger every day this week.

Posted by: HeideRadieschen at December 31, 2013 11:20 AM (nMYaa)

223 Unless the specific goal of this standard is to exclude female recruits from service, the key is to set a high standard that most of the recruits can actually REACH. I think the standard should be set such that your recruits don't die upon first contact with the enemy.

Posted by: toby928© attempts the triple and but mostly construction at December 31, 2013 11:21 AM (QupBk)

224 Other than that, if those animals are docile enough to let humans milk them, they get what they deserve. You notice we don't go around milking lionesses, do we? Yeah, there's a reason for that and it's because lionesses won't stand for it like a cow does.
Posted by: Sudden Clarity Clarence

Hey, these tits aren't gonna suck themselves.  Hook me up, buttercup.

Posted by: That cow with the huge tits. That's right, tits. at December 31, 2013 11:21 AM (MNq6o)

225 Heather - my eyes are bad and I couldn't get the photo to enlarge.  What is it?

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 11:22 AM (P6QsQ)

226 All I wanna know: Are the Areola the size of a quarter with a light pink hue sporting only a sight hint of raised definition between them and a firm, erect nipple?

Posted by: Walknot at December 31, 2013 11:22 AM (86zol)

227 Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ... that ain't writing, that's typing. At best.

Just shut half of the higher ed industry down now. It won't be missed. We'll actually see more educated people ground out of the machine and we'll say, "WTF have we been doing all these decades?" We'll see the addition by subtraction.

And professors who perpetuate this tripe should be forced to read those works to the exclusion of all other diversions. No TV, radio, movies, books, camping, internet, nada. You shall read, over and over, that which you have foisted upon the masses.

They'll be driven to asylum in a semester.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 31, 2013 11:22 AM (eHIJJ)

228 I've eaten a cheeseburger every day this week. Posted by: HeideRadieschen at December 31, 2013 03:20 PM (nMYaa) {{hugs without disclaimers}}

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2013 11:22 AM (qyfb5)

229 Wonder how many of these feminist would pick a bad boy type on a Harley vs. Pajama Boy?

Posted by: YIKES! at December 31, 2013 11:22 AM (mETGQ)

230 WTF is that. Can someone here explain that? Nevermind the rest of the shit She's saying feminists are thinkers AND doers. After the central unifying theory statement that milking a mammal is anti-feminist, the rest is just yay us! feminist self-congradulation.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 31, 2013 11:22 AM (4QSOR)

231 Ecofeminism: When Womyn's Studies is 'too patriarchal' for you.

Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 11:22 AM (MMC8r)

232
I agree with the author on her central point.  Milk = Female Enslavement.

I've been breast feeding Matt Yglesias for 2 years.  I'm going to wean his egg-shaped ass in 2014.

Marcotte's Rule, bitches.

Posted by: Amanda Marcotte at December 31, 2013 11:22 AM (x/lJo)

233 I was not born yet when Ronald Reagan wrote that letter.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 31, 2013 11:22 AM (afIp+)

234 "The Centrality of Praxis" is the key argument here:

Considering Praxis' proximity to Quo'nos, the economic and environmental impact to the Klingons was considerable. This cannot be emphasized enough. Had Praxis been a moon further out in the empirical system, the overburdened, yet key energy production facility - and the aftermath of the tragedy - would have been cause for minor diplomatic strains between the Federation and the Empire rather than the history-altering event it was manifested to be. I cannot stress this enough. Had Praxis' proximity been furhter out, the aftermath would have been minor. How minor?

Deep Space minor.

Posted by: SGT. York at December 31, 2013 11:23 AM (dLIEC)

235 Mommy!

Posted by: Matt Yglesias at December 31, 2013 11:23 AM (x/lJo)

236 Reality is so unfair.
Reality has made me so unhappy.
Reality is the main cause of my unhappiness.
Milk might be ok if only it came from transgendered cows.

Posted by: Just a guy staring at the serpents in the wishing well at December 31, 2013 11:23 AM (1/4XQ)

237 When it all burns, I know who's gonna be in the first batch.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 31, 2013 11:23 AM (l0lja)

238 Now that's what I call milking the system.

Posted by: Camille Paglia at December 31, 2013 11:23 AM (2ArJQ)

239 http://tinyurl.com/ojfjge9 She looks like a nice person. Maybe she should comment here and get a new view of things.

Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 11:23 AM (EWsrI)

240 Ecofeminism: Women, Animals, Nature

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Two bucks says she's wiccan.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 11:23 AM (P6QsQ)

241 Whatever we're paying this woman to play out her pathologies in public and written form, I'll do it for half that.

Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 11:23 AM (MMC8r)

242 Heather - my eyes are bad and I couldn't get the photo to enlarge. What is it?

It's a letter from Governor Ronald Reagan to a woman (girl?) who asked him for a photo of Johnny Cash.

It amused me.

Posted by: HeideRadieschen at December 31, 2013 11:23 AM (nMYaa)

243 This is utterly ridiculous. I can say that, because I am a cow. Did you hear about the cow that jumped over the barb wire fence? Utter destruction!

Posted by: Evi. L. Bloggerlady at December 31, 2013 11:23 AM (4kTo2)

244 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 31, 2013 03:19 PM (kdS6q) Great I'm going to have to address this shit in my dissertation aren't I? :sigh: In any event, the cosmetic industry set most medical research back by probably decades by doing things that are pretty cruel to animals. Of course it wasn't really their fault, the FDA made them do it. (Seriously, do we need to know what happens if you get eye liner in your cornea? Here's a tip: Don't scratch your cornea!) But now that's all people think about when they think animal research, and so PETA has the upper hand. And schools are shutting down their USDA controlled programs (and some even doing away with all animals.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 31, 2013 11:24 AM (GaqMa)

245 That's some funny shit. Try saying this without laughing: Motivated by an intellectual and experiential understanding of the mutually reinforcing interconnections among diverse forms of oppression, vegan feminists and ecofeminists positioned their own liberation and well-being as variously raced, classed, gendered, and sexual humans to be fundamentally interconnected to the well-being of other nondominant human and animal species, augmenting Patricia Hill CollinsÂ’s definition of intersectionality to include species as well. Whatever they are smoking, they should share.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 31, 2013 11:24 AM (0FSuD)

246 "Deep Space minor."

Ohhhhhhhh, myyyyyyyyyyyy...

Posted by: Hideki Sulu at December 31, 2013 11:24 AM (4I3Uo)

247 Utterly predictable!

Posted by: Evi. L. Bloggerlady at December 31, 2013 11:25 AM (4kTo2)

248 Greta Gaard is professor of English at the University of Wisconsin-River Falls, and a Community Faculty in WomenÂ’s Studies at Metropolitan State University in St. Paul, MN.

Her ecofeminist scholarship and activism span over two decades and include literary criticism, environmental ethics, pedagogical studies, creative nonfiction*, critical animal studies, and social movement narratives.
***
 

In other words, she's never had anything approaching a real job in her life.  She's got less knowledge of reality than a flatworm.

Posted by: B at December 31, 2013 11:25 AM (Pson9)

249

This language they speak, these academics, writers and artists of the Left, is its own construct. George Orwell wrote extensively about the political and psycho-social aspects of language manipulation, specifically by totalitarian states. In short, the words we use determine the way we think, the way we perceive the world.  In knowledgeable hands, impressionable people can be made to believe anything the State tells them to believe.

 

Leftist academics don't teach young minds a certain discipline or field of study. They teach them a language. The language they teach shapes thoughts and establishes boundaries. That language negates reason, declares classical Socratic logic an artificial social construct, eliminates traditional moral concepts such as right and wrong, and puts in their place a system of thought that makes its owner susceptible to unreason and thus open to whatever follows, no matter how illogical or alien to human experience. It is, among other things, a control mechanism.

 

I'm a commercial artist for a living. Sometimes my girlfriend and I go to arts-related functions in our city, dinners and exhibitions and get-togethers and the like, places where we sometimes hear unintelligible artspeak/academic-speak spoken. She laughs about it. I don't. I know where it comes from. I know what it's for.

Posted by: troyriser at December 31, 2013 11:25 AM (V9ol4)

250 It's a letter from Governor Ronald Reagan to a woman (girl?) who asked him for a photo of Johnny Cash.

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Awww, that's kind of sweet.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 11:25 AM (P6QsQ)

251 Did she mention how she feels about yeast in bread?

Posted by: Dang, running for cover at December 31, 2013 11:25 AM (MNq6o)

252 "fireworksÂ’ effects on animals" -------- -------- A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Posted by: Beagle at December 31, 2013 11:25 AM (sOtz/)

253 What's funny is that this article (along with the rest of the scholarly journals for Liberal Arts) immediately end up in the sub basement of the university library in one of those rooms where you have to use the crank to pull the shelves apart. The only reason anyone has to access such an article is to cite it in their own similar article. These articles are only written to perpetuate the writing of more articles. It seems like something so absurd that only Kafka or Douglas Adams could imagine it.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 31, 2013 11:25 AM (zeV2E)

254 It's just another symptom of the oppressive patriarchy that "paps" aren't called "ma'ams."

Posted by: Naome Wolf at December 31, 2013 11:26 AM (2ArJQ)

255 Motivated by an intellectual and experiential understanding of the mutually reinforcing interconnections among diverse forms of oppression, vegan feminists and ecofeminists positioned their own liberation and well-being as variously raced, classed, gendered, and sexual humans to be fundamentally interconnected to the well-being of other nondominant human and animal species, augmenting Patricia Hill CollinsÂ’s definition of intersectionality to include species as well. Interesting she considers using milk for sustenance to be predatory, but not milking the taxpayer pay for her BS.

Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 11:26 AM (MMC8r)

256 I said it once, will say it again, feminism is not an academic pursuit. academic masturbation, maybe, but not an academic pursuit.

Posted by: that guy at December 31, 2013 11:27 AM (QxSug)

257 221 Wasn't Praxis that Klingon moon that blew up in Star Trek VI? Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2013 03:20 PM (qyfb5) Yeah, because somebody spilled milk on a phase-transducer coil that was being realigned with its EM pulse compensator.

Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 11:27 AM (EWsrI)

258 I enjoy some Postcolonial Milk with my waffles.

Posted by: John Kerry at December 31, 2013 11:27 AM (2ArJQ)

259 "pet"?

OK.  My cat is not my pet.  I am her pet/feeder.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 31, 2013 11:27 AM (V70Uh)

260 I'm with Zombie on this one. This is far clearer than most of the social-science slop academia now produces. One thing has changed in the last few decades. It used to be that these clowns would at least pretend to be seeking truth. Today they will admit ---nay, boast --- up front that the aim of their research is not truth but the "liberation" of the oppressed.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 31, 2013 11:27 AM (dfYL9)

261 @103 They have a great dairy program at UW-RF, maybe not as famous as their equine program but at least as good (they say).

Posted by: Just a guy staring at the serpents in the wishing well at December 31, 2013 11:28 AM (1/4XQ)

262 Searching furiously for lactation porn . BRB

Posted by: awkward davies at December 31, 2013 11:28 AM (WK8VM)

263 Ecofeminism wasn't my first choice. I did some great work in Echofeminism, but people said they couldn't understand it.

Posted by: Doctor Greta Gaard, Bitch at December 31, 2013 11:28 AM (JQuNB)

264 I hope no trees died to give that woman a medium to smear shit on.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2013 11:28 AM (xWW96)

265 Deep Space minor. Posted by: SGT. York at December 31, 2013 03:23 PM (dLIEC) That made more sense than Greta's schmaltz

Posted by: Ma Bell at December 31, 2013 11:28 AM (RLdcX)

266 The frightening thing is that this is what is actually being taught and what those educators truly believe to be the absolute truth. Laugh while you canÂ…

Posted by: The Kyriarchical Hat at December 31, 2013 11:28 AM (AymDN)

267 It's a letter from Governor Ronald Reagan to a woman (girl?) who asked him for a photo of Johnny Cash. --- I'd like to think the girl just asked Reagan for "cash" and he was being a wiseass.

Posted by: TenthJustice at December 31, 2013 11:28 AM (qB8lN)

268 "Deep Space minor."

I almost had one, but I was three credits short.


Alrighty.  I have to take a nap so I can survive the evening.

Posted by: HeideRadieschen at December 31, 2013 11:28 AM (nMYaa)

269 What if I pour the milk on my Frosted Femynyst Flakes?

Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 11:28 AM (MMC8r)

270 This here praxis is paid for by taxes.

Posted by: Cornel West at December 31, 2013 11:28 AM (2ArJQ)

271 Liberals think run-on sentences make them sound smart.

Their college professors must deduct point for periods.

Posted by: Dang at December 31, 2013 11:28 AM (MNq6o)

272 http://tinyurl.com/ojfjge9 Wait, she was my porter's mom when I hiked Mt Kilimanjaro. She kissed me after I gave him a big tip. I denounce myself.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 31, 2013 11:29 AM (0FSuD)

273 It is, among other things, a control mechanism. Posted by: troyriser at December 31, 2013 03:25 PM (V9ol4) It is, after a fashion, a sort of magic. Particular words spoken a particular way to bind themselves. It is perverse, especially in that it's a language partly designed to *prevent* communication.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2013 11:29 AM (qyfb5)

274 >> know where it comes from. I know what it's for.

Bingo!
It's why so many considered Obama a genius.
Sadly, they're now confused, drowning in their ocean of tomorrow, wondering why, if they were the ones they were waiting for, they no longer have a job of health insurance. White privilege? Must be....

Posted by: Lizzy at December 31, 2013 11:30 AM (POpqt)

275
Greta Gaard is professor of English at the University of Wisconsin-River Falls, and a Community Faculty in WomenÂ’s Studies at Metropolitan State University in St. Paul, MN.

Her ecofeminist scholarship and activism span over two decades and include literary criticism, environmental ethics, pedagogical studies, creative nonfiction*, critical animal studies, and social movement narratives.

Her most recent works on animals in space exploration, an ecofeminist perspective on milk, and fireworksÂ’ effects on animals** and environment are all forthcoming in 2013.



* making shit up

** blowing shit up

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 31, 2013 03:19 PM (kdS6q)






She forgot to add some form of "activism" to her bio. Which in the case of leftists, is also "blowing shit up".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2013 11:30 AM (TIIx5)

276 Speaking of ecofeminism. I have been off the grid (as mother-in-law thinks Internets are similar to black holes and does not subject her home to this new-fangled whatchamacallit). We could all be in camps now and I am too jet-lagged to know (spending day in pj's. bite moi. I had a rough one hour flight home, after a nice four hour flight nap, and almost in hubby's lap as the fat guy next to window reeked of paint and was very hyper and kept jabbing me with his elbow. I think he was a huffer? I have no idea, but he also had sores on his face. smelled weird, and was reading, hyperspeed, all Delta reading material in pocket. Plus! He had a wheat beer! kill me now).

Where was I? Eco stuff...Train derailment in ND with oil spill and evacuations? More train detective stuff for ole Christy, Train Detective when not evaluating length of leg hair on Greta, Milk Maid? Ecoterrorism, y'all? It appears that any train that derails is not carrying organic veggies or bean curds (which would cause me to evacuate and I hope I never have to be forced to eat something like a curd from a bean in the upcoming apocalypse). Busy year for blowing up things.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is a genius compared to preznit at December 31, 2013 11:30 AM (baL2B)

277 Their college professors must deduct point for periods. In Womyn's Studies, periods are a sign of enlightenment.

Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 11:30 AM (MMC8r)

278 269 What if I pour the milk on my Frosted Femynyst Flakes?

They go Snop, gravel, and poop!

Posted by: fred zeppelin at December 31, 2013 11:30 AM (zL/eJ)

279

An ecofeminist prof in Wisconsin taking on Big Milk?

 

Teh Crazy is Strong

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at December 31, 2013 11:31 AM (3ZtZW)

280 277 - In Womyn's Studies, periods are a sign of enlightenment.

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!

Posted by: fred zeppelin at December 31, 2013 11:31 AM (zL/eJ)

281 That cow is going to mete out some Eco-justice when it doesn't get milked on time. Just ask Mrs. O' Learys cow.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 31, 2013 11:31 AM (KuZ6A)

282 Will she reach for your hoagie?

Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 11:31 AM (EWsrI)

283 "Centrality of Praxis" has got to be the title of some obscure progressive rock album from 1971....

Posted by: JoeyBagels at December 31, 2013 11:31 AM (/KV3W)

284 I saw the Centrality of Praxis open for Art Zoyd in '93.

Posted by: Null at December 31, 2013 11:31 AM (P7hip)

285 What if I pour the milk on my Frosted Femynyst Flakes? Almond milk only!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 31, 2013 11:32 AM (4QSOR)

286
Ecofeminism wasn't my first choice. I did some great work in Echofeminism, but people said they couldn't understand it.

Posted by: Doctor Greta Gaard, Bitch at December 31, 2013 03:28 PM (JQuNB)









I would have thought that the requirement to take every class twice would be worse.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2013 11:32 AM (TIIx5)

287 282 Will she reach for your hoagie? Posted by: eman at December 31, 2013 03:31 PM (EWsrI) Only ONCE! See my post in last thread.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 31, 2013 11:32 AM (0FSuD)

288 "Centrality of Praxis" has got to be the title of some obscure progressive rock album from 1971....

Posted by: JoeyBagels at December 31, 2013 03:31 PM (/KV3W)


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Carlos Santana.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 11:32 AM (P6QsQ)

289 >>>Want to be a Marine? Great. Here are the standards. Can't cut it? Too fucking bad.  Of course most people can't reach the standards. That's the fucking point. You want the best. You don't want Millie Milksop or Adam Assmunch in the USMC.
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I think that's a perfectly fair approach, so long as the standards themselves are reasonable.   EG, its pretty easy to set the bar so high that the Marines won't be able to meet their recruiting quotas.  Is that really what we want?  Is it better to exclude 80% of female candidates for the USMC? 

In my opinion, so long as women in the USMC have a different role than men (eg they're not doing front line combat), then its reasonable to hold them to a different. . .though gender appropriate. . . standard.   This comes down mostly to what expectations are for women in that branch.


>>#190 Three (pull ups) is too high a bar?

Most women can't do ANY pullups (period).  They have considerably less upper body strength than men, and (usually) more body fat, meaning less proportion of muscle/body weight.

I'm not in a position to comment on what the "appropriate" upper body standard is for women in the US marines, but traditionally women do a "flexed arm hang" as a surrogate for pullups.  I'll just repeat that if you want to have women in the US Marines, you're not going to have many (or any) if you hold them to the same upper body strength standard as men.    There are plenty of jobs in the USMC that don't require physical strength.  If it comes down to having women more qualified to do those jobs in every way BUT physical strength, is the USMC better off with those women or without them?

Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 11:32 AM (6Q9g2)

290 The frightening thing is that this is what is actually being taught and what those educators truly believe to be the absolute truth. Laugh while you canÂ… Meh. Plenty of room in the smokehouse for the Eloi.

Posted by: toby928© attempts the triple and but mostly construction at December 31, 2013 11:33 AM (QupBk)

291 I''m betting she has long conversations with her vagina.

Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 11:33 AM (MMC8r)

292 Blah blah blah blah blah blah. It is pure drivel written by a mental midget. Liberal arts folks equate lots of words, the bigger the better, on a page to intelligent discourse. In reality they are, as Jesus said, "babbling like pagans." She needs a good fapping from a brave, or drunk, gentleman as she's probably ugly as sin.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 31, 2013 11:33 AM (RXQ2T)

293 "Praxis" is just the justification they have for their narrow-minded and myopic obsessions about how they fancy themselves to be oppressed.

Posted by: The Kyriarchical Hat at December 31, 2013 11:33 AM (AymDN)

294 Is it better to exclude 80% of female candidates for the USMC?

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Uh, my first guess would be YES.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2013 11:33 AM (P6QsQ)

295 An ecofeminist prof in Wisconsin taking on Big Milk? Teh Crazy is Strong That's the Humanities for you. Glance around, what's the local "power structure" that's not leftist. Declare that thing anti-feminist and then run your declaration through the madlibs post-Marxist drivel generator. Bing! Out comes your latest work!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 31, 2013 11:34 AM (4QSOR)

296
You know, for a 40 something treehugging feminist, Greta is keeping herself in pretty good shape.

Pic: http://tinyurl.com/ldp9rto

Also, quote from the blog I swiped that from:

Theorist Greta Gaard spoke about ecofeminist theory and practice, and mentioned queer sexuality in the context of animal rights (which I loved).

Other talks I found inspiring included pattrice jones’ discussion of her queer-run animal sanctuary Vine Sanctuary, and about how they have all of their important meetings standing up in the barn while surrounded by animals. patrice said to share with paleo dieters and purported feminists who eat meat: “Tell them that eating meat is something you do to someone else’s body without their consent.” What a powerful and accurate thing to say!

http://tinyurl.com/czgetc8

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 31, 2013 11:34 AM (kdS6q)

297 291 I''m betting she has long conversations with her vagina. Way too long.

Posted by: The Eveready Bunny at December 31, 2013 11:34 AM (0FSuD)

298 “Toward a Feminist Postcolonial Milk Studies,” by one Greta Gaard, “an ecofeminist writer, scholar, activist, and documentary filmmaker.”





Postcolonial? Milk = colonialism? Who knew? I'll bet old Greta makes Rosie O'Donnell look positively feminine

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 31, 2013 11:34 AM (JivuR)

299

@289  There are plenty of jobs in the USMC that don't require physical strength. If it comes down to having women more qualified to do those jobs in every way BUT physical strength, is the USMC better off with those women or without them?

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Isn't this the requirements for front-line stuff?  AFAIK, women have been in the Marines for a while now.  The only change is that now they're allowed to join the front-line combat teams.  So no, I'm not entirely sure that it is appropriate, since we *are* talking about jobs where strength is important.

 

Posted by: junior at December 31, 2013 11:34 AM (UWFpX)

300

You want the best. You don't want Millie Milksop or Adam Assmunch
in the USMC.
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Why the fuck are you guys always giving me shit?!

Posted by: Adam Assmunch at December 31, 2013 11:35 AM (3ZtZW)

301 'in “pet” [note the scare quotes] keeping and breeding' Scare quotes for pets, my ass. My beagle got more Christmas presents than I did. This whole thing from Peta about how keeping pets is evil really pisses me off. Feel free to go after people who abuse their animals, but most of us treat our doggehs better than children. Animal rights idiots need to take a field trip to Petco or Petsmart to see all the junk that Americans are buying to pander to their pets.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2013 11:35 AM (RxVu7)

302
Anyone remember a long time ago when Ace's sidebar roll included a blog called "Bitch Girls" or something like that?


Posted by: soothsayer at December 31, 2013 11:35 AM (afIp+)

303 If she's trying to turn the topic of tits into a serious subject, she's behind medicine, music, religion and art by a few thousand years.

Posted by: CAC at December 31, 2013 11:35 AM (UTgqO)

304 If she only knew about milking... my sides split laughing!

Posted by: la vache qui rit at December 31, 2013 11:35 AM (1/4XQ)

305 Wow, that's someone really, really, really trying to "sound" "intellectual." So, let's start that paragraph again, shall we? Because milk sperm is produced by female mammals, ...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Happy New Years! *horn* at December 31, 2013 11:35 AM (IXrOn)

306 Some folks here are confused. The Military has a purpose. It is not an instrument of national defense, or to protect national interests, it is an instrument to promote social justice. That is it's only mission.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2013 11:35 AM (xWW96)

307 I used to know some people whose name was Gaard.  They raised cattle.  I'm guessing Greta wasn't one of them.

Posted by: huerfano at December 31, 2013 11:36 AM (bAGA/)

308 Femynysts are more obsessed with their bodily functions than are eight-year-old boys.

Posted by: --- at December 31, 2013 11:36 AM (MMC8r)

309 @296 Wait. The womyn is ghey? Never saw that coming.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 31, 2013 11:36 AM (0FSuD)

310 "From the start, feminism has been a movement for justice: at its heart is the centrality of praxis, the necessary linkage of intellectual, political, and activist work"

Is 'praxis' the Latin word for bull-shiesse ?

Actually, the 'linkage' of intellectual and political NECESSARILY degrades, corrupts and perverts them both: Intellectual work is compromised by 'agenda-driven intellectuallism' as with agenda-driven journalism, science, etc. is engages in an assault on truth-finding by compromising it with goals that are more about achieving pre-determined outcomes than verifying truth. Since 'the truth' is in the back seat, the political agenda itself becomes suspect, it's not stated openly and in effect is advanced under false pretenses (consider analogy of bogus global warming science used as a cover for an anti-fossil-fuel agenda which would be more honest if it was stated more openly).

"Feminist methodology puts the lives of the oppressed at the center of the research question and undertakes studies, gathers data, and interrogates material contexts with the primary aim of improving the lives and the material conditions of the oppressed"

Since the primary aim is already a predefined ideological outcome ('improving the lives') on a pre-defined assessment ("the oppressed"), stated in marxist terms, there is no 'methodology' except a do-what-you-can-to-justify-a radical politicized agenda.  'interrogates material contexts' translation: Tortures data and facts until they confess to anything you demand of them.

The phony lies of feminism is a logical consequential outcome of a corrupted intellectual process that is at its root anti-intellectual.

Men beat spouses more during superbowl games? Check. (Never mind that its false, its a 'narrative' that supports the wonderful agenda of man-hating feminism.)
Eggs and milk are symbols of patriarchy? um, whatever.   I dread to think what the feminists with a whiff of freud in them will say about a nice sausage on the plate next to two nice sunny-side up eggs.



Posted by: Zombie Commie Walter Cronkite at December 31, 2013 11:36 AM (oNqbW)

311 Their college professors must deduct point for periods. In Womyn's Studies, periods are a sign of enlightenment. Periods are a sure sign of bitchiness.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2013 11:36 AM (cB3Ay)

312 Most women can't do ANY pullups (period). They have considerably less upper body strength than men, and (usually) more body fat, meaning less proportion of muscle/body weight. The US Marine carries 80+ lbs of crap into battle. If 99% of male recruits can do this, and 12% of female recruits can do this, where should recruiters focus? I mean if you were smart and not agenda-driven.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 31, 2013 11:36 AM (4QSOR)

313 I'd like to see what this lady would do if you tried to take away her bowl of ice cream while she's watching a Lifetime original on Saturday night.  Alone.  With her cats.

Posted by: Dang at December 31, 2013 11:37 AM (MNq6o)

314 When I am at any intellectual yappity like this, I highly recommend the praxis of saying "This is a huge paradigm shift." I then refill my glass.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is a genius compared to preznit at December 31, 2013 11:37 AM (baL2B)

315 Of course, if the adopted kid comes out later in life and calls the Romneys "typical white people" all will be forgiven and he will be elected president.

Posted by: PJ at December 31, 2013 11:37 AM (ZWaLo)

316 " My beagle got more Christmas presents than I did." Speaking of which, any ideas on how to get my beagle to play with her new remote control car? She's afraid of it. My brother put peanut butter on the roof, but that didn't do much good.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2013 11:37 AM (RxVu7)

317 I'll just repeat that if you want to have women in the US Marines, you're not going to have many (or any) if you hold them to the same upper body strength standard as men. There are plenty of jobs in the USMC that don't require physical strength. If it comes down to having women more qualified to do those jobs in every way BUT physical strength, is the USMC better off with those women or without them? Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 03:32 PM (6Q9g2) Do you know why the Marine Corps has no chaplains of their own? Because chaplains cannot carry weapons. "Every man a rifleman." That's Marine Corps. They expect every single Marine to be able to fight and fight well. If the female recruits can't stack up, then no, there's no reason for them to be there. 3 fucking pull-ups is not so high a bar that it can't be met.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 31, 2013 11:37 AM (JpFMR)

318 Uh, my first guess would be YES. Yep. The Marines are supposed to be all tooth, they have the Navy for their tail. Every Marine a rifleman blah blah.

Posted by: toby928© attempts the triple and but mostly construction at December 31, 2013 11:38 AM (QupBk)

319 Knew

Posted by: MAx at December 31, 2013 11:39 AM (b7yum)

320 Is it better to exclude 80% of female candidates for the USMC?




To quote Harry Callahan: She wants to play lumberjack, she's going to have to learn to handle her end of the log.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 31, 2013 11:39 AM (JivuR)

321 253 What's funny is that this article (along with the rest of the scholarly journals for Liberal Arts) immediately end up in the sub basement of the university library in one of those rooms where you have to use the crank to pull the shelves apart.
===
Right.

This particular article is actually getting more exposure in being mocked here than it ever would in any other context. 

IE, we're the only ones "reading" and "citing" it.

So maybe the "joke" is on us!



Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 11:39 AM (6Q9g2)

322 "Centrality of Praxis"


Remember Sniglets?  Some people took that shit very seriously.

Posted by: Dang at December 31, 2013 11:39 AM (MNq6o)

323 My scam is bigger than your scam.

Posted by: Greta Gaard at December 31, 2013 11:40 AM (2ArJQ)

324

 >>>There are plenty of jobs in the USMC that don't require physical strength. If it comes down to having women more qualified to do those jobs in every way BUT physical strength, is the USMC better off with those women or without them?

 

Without.

The USMC aims to be "every Marine a Rifleman", down to cooks and pencil-pushers. Riflemen need, amongst other things, to be able to haul their own weight over a wall or barrier, at a minimum. You know, becoz the enemy is shooting at them? And the USMC has that aim, interestingly enough, becoz they've got loads of times when, like the Foreign Legion, they've been stranded and surrounded and fought to the last man.

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at December 31, 2013 11:40 AM (3ZtZW)

325 3 fucking pull-ups is not so high a bar that it can't be met. Yep. Go to any CrossFit gym and you'll find ladies that can do 30+ kipping pullups in a row. If you're prepping for the Marines, the standard is not hidden in a manual in an unmarked basement and guarded by an Ogre.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 31, 2013 11:41 AM (4QSOR)

326 One of my favorite "praxis" stories in film school was the feminist lesbian filmmakers who started a commune that was anti-romance and anti-narrative, because both were horrible artifacts of patriarchy.

I always imagined some poor guy getting a flat tire near their commune and coming in to make a phone call and seeing a bunch of lesbians being mean to each other (*slap* Kiss me, you bitch!) and watching movies with no plot.

Posted by: PJ at December 31, 2013 11:41 AM (ZWaLo)

327 "294 Is it better to exclude 80% of female candidates for the USMC? --------------- Uh, my first guess would be YES." Liberals think warfare is like the Olympics or college athletics. Everyone points out Israel having women in combat units but Israel (a country of 6.5 million Jews) drafts its women because there are 80 million Egyptians, 20 million Syrians, 5 million Lebanese, and 5 million Jordanians on their border. It has a severe manpower shortage and its men and women are under threat of actual extermination. I just don't think we have the same concerns with Canada and Mexico. It is a huge administrative pain in the ass to integrate women into combat units.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 31, 2013 11:42 AM (zeV2E)

328
snood

Posted by: soothsayer at December 31, 2013 11:43 AM (afIp+)

329 Just to maintain your vehicle you've got to have some measure of strength. Never mind setting up camo netting, digging latrines, etc. Anyone who can't do that stuff is already a drag on everyone else.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 31, 2013 11:43 AM (ZshNr)

330 "The only change is that now they're allowed to join the front-line combat teams. So no, I'm not entirely sure that it is appropriate, since we *are* talking about jobs where strength is important."

The fact that some people who think they're so very much smarter than the rest of us decided that women and men are exactly the same wrt military service puts  the "Every Marine A Rifleman" saying  into full force, IMO.  Therefore, if you can't do the damn pullups or hump your ruck or whatever physical requirement a trigger puller has to meet, you should go and flip burgers somewhere.  Those are much lighter.

Posted by: Jaws at December 31, 2013 11:44 AM (4I3Uo)

331 Queer-run animal sanctuary Vine Sanctuary, Is there a reason that people need to know that an animal sanctuary is "queer run"? Does their sexual orientation matter as to whether they do a good job or not?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2013 11:44 AM (BC6cY)

332 "Fem theory speak" and its convoluted jargon and obscure rational, killed my interest in researching and even reading recent efforts in women's history years ago. Beyond the shell game they employ to disguise their meaning (from the general public) is the realization that this field is an academic scam used to divert attention that they rarely conduct real research. Don't expect to find any serious efforts at documentation or sourcing their "theories". This group excels at source mining and cherry picking quotations out context. During the 90s the unholy alliance combined them with Eco/Gaia/vegan radicals and the new women's religion was born. Complete with inquisitions and burnings of heretics. Bleeeck!

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at December 31, 2013 11:44 AM (FIiPL)

333

Whatz up, Yoh!!

Posted by: Higher Education Bubble at December 31, 2013 11:44 AM (g3vpi)

334 Psst,  Greta.  You know why you work at a University?  You have no job skills that the world wants or needs.  So that's where you wind up.  It's a pen where you are kept.  It's how we weed you out of the herd and make you lesbians so you don't reproduce.  The guys in marketing came up with it years ago.

*slurps up the last bit of his milkshake - burps out of the side of his mouth, to keep things classy*

Posted by: Dang at December 31, 2013 11:46 AM (MNq6o)

335 Did anyone else read the comments on the Mother Jones article linked in the side bar?  Oh my GOD, they are still blaming BUSH for everything.  It's like they are stuck in 2006.   I had low expectations going  in, but wow.....

Posted by: thermadin at December 31, 2013 11:49 AM (W+08+)

336 314 When I am at any intellectual yappity like this, I highly recommend the praxis of saying "This is a huge paradigm shift." I then refill my glass. Posted by: ChristyBlinky is a genius compared to preznit at December 31, 2013 03:37 PM (baL2B) Whenever I was at a work meeting, the word "paradigm" was my signal to start a paper and pencil game to pass the time. My favorite game was the one where you write the letters of the alphabet down the side of the page. Then next to each of those letters you put another random letter. So you have pairs of letters going down the page. Then for each pair of letters you come up with a name of a famous person. This is a much better use of your time than listening to crap about "paradigms".

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2013 11:49 AM (RxVu7)

337 "My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives..."

Posted by: Keith Arnold at December 31, 2013 11:52 AM (DMtT+)

338 >>The US Marine carries 80+ lbs of crap into battle. If 99% of male recruits can do this, and 12% of female recruits can do this, where should recruiters focus? I mean if you were smart and not agenda-driven.

I get that "every Marine a rifleman".   That's the "theory".   In an ideal world, every single US Marine would be an Olympic Pentathlete of 200 lbs of solid muscle, shoot nothing but Xs, speak five languages, etc.

But in practice, to paraphrase Dick Cheney, you have to go to war with the recruits you can actually get. 

We're running a technologically advanced military now.  For every soldier in the field there  are now multiple support staff at the base, running logistics, operating communications, running computers, etc.   So the historical image of the USMC aside, there is plenty of room for recruits who have technical skills and/or good communication skills, but who may not be so physically strong. 

I fully agree that standards should be high for those who actually have to truck the gear into combat. . .if you can't make the cut you can't go it (irrespective of gender), but I think its to the detriment of any given service if you exclude people who otherwise have a lot to offer who don't make that cut.

By the way, its not just physical standards that have been relaxed:
http://tinyurl.com/18r



Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 11:54 AM (6Q9g2)

339 I saw Post Colonial Milk open for Lactating Lesbians at the Arena in '82.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 31, 2013 11:55 AM (XLoA6)

340 Greta's been on this milk kick  since she found the man married to her mother isn't really her actual father. The milk man did it...

Posted by: JoeyBagels at December 31, 2013 11:55 AM (/KV3W)

341 "UmmmÂ…yes, it is stupid. Want to be a Marine? Great. Here are the standards. Can't cut it? Too fucking bad."

Exactly. That's what it MEANS to be a Marine. They dont grade on a curve.

Leave that defining stds down to get your quota stuff to a lesser military outfit.


Posted by: Zombie Commie Walter Cronkite at December 31, 2013 11:58 AM (oNqbW)

342 114 I forget who first said it or how they coined it, but this is another example of an activist movement / organization that exists for the sole purpose of perpetuating itself. See also: Labor Unions

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 31, 2013 11:59 AM (XLoA6)

343   But in practice, to paraphrase Dick Cheney, you have to go to war with the recruits you can actually get.

So who's running the numbers?   How many male recruits are lost for each female recruit gained, when the PC effects are included?    When female soldiers get lowered standards and preferential treatment - what does that do to the desirability of being a soldier?  

We go to war with the soldiers we have, but the structure of the armed forces can and does change in between conflicts.  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 31, 2013 11:59 AM (ioT3q)

344 338 For every soldier in the field there are now multiple support staff at the base, running logistics, operating communications, running computers, etc Isn't that what all those contractors are for? I thought the warfighters were doing the warfighting these days in our trimmed down force of the 21st Century? I've been out of the DoD game a while, I must admit.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 31, 2013 12:01 PM (lQ5/A)

345 The truly frightening thing about that mind-numbingly stupid spiel is that there are people who would read it or sit through a class on it, and not laugh right out loud."

I don't blame the students. They are the oppressed victims of marxist BS, required to regurgitate the spiel for the token letter grades.

But the College Professors, the College Presidents who allow this garbage, the faculty peers, the department heads who don't call it out for the stupid lies that it is are to blame. They should know better, but they don't. They are vile, evil, stupid, shameful, disgraceful and the source of the problem.

Posted by: Zombie Commie Walter Cronkite at December 31, 2013 12:01 PM (oNqbW)

346 Why would anyone want to do a Feminist Post-colon Milk Study?

Posted by: johnd01 at December 31, 2013 12:02 PM (ukNFU)

347 Late to the thread.... but after reading the excerpt, I'm thinking, "No wonder they're so angry all the time "

Posted by: Mindy's on I-70 at December 31, 2013 12:04 PM (Hp4pI)

348 Praxis Praxis

Posted by: kimoloka at December 31, 2013 12:05 PM (AB/W0)

349 "I fully agree that standards should be high for those who actually have to truck the gear into combat. . .if you can't make the cut you can't go it (irrespective of gender), but I think its to the detriment of any given service if you exclude people who otherwise have a lot to offer who don't make that cut."

So the status quo ante was just good  then.  That's fine by me.  There's lots of need for people in the rear with the gear.  I wouldn't want  a great and capable male mud Marine with limited education to  be coddled into flying an Osprey or a Hornet either.


Posted by: Jaws at December 31, 2013 12:07 PM (4I3Uo)

350 "...I fully agree that standards should be high for those who actually have to truck the gear into combat. . .if you can't make the cut you can't go it (irrespective of gender), but I think its to the detriment of any given service if you exclude people who otherwise have a lot to offer who don't make that cut...".

Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 03:54 PM (6Q9g2)

 

I agree to a degree. I think mentally stable, emotionally well-adjusted, and highly motivated patriotic people who wish to serve our country should be allowed to serve our country regardless of handicap--unless that handicap requires additional resources and proves detrimental to the mission. That doesn't mean, however, that standards should be lowered to accommodate them in positions they are not capable of filling.

 

I was once Airborne Infantry in the 82nd. We usually carried 100 lbs of weapons, gear and ammo even on field problems, and were even more heavily laden in combat. We sometimes ran or crawled with all that shit on our backs. We speed-marched (pick 'em up put 'em down) for miles and miles, and the weak and unfit fell by the wayside. If they fell by the wayside often enough, they were deemed unqualified and drummed out of Division. That's the way it was and--in my view--the way it should be. If you can't do the job, you can't do the job, so find another job. The stakes are too high to screw around.

Posted by: troyriser at December 31, 2013 12:07 PM (V9ol4)

351 That block of text is so baffling, I'm scared to click the link thinking it might take me to one of those websites where women use made-up excuses to show me moneyshots of their vaginas.

Posted by: Fritz at December 31, 2013 12:07 PM (TKFmG)

352 >>>Most women can't do ANY pullups (period Cougar just got finished her work out. Did six rounds of 10 hang power cleans and five pull ups in 9 minutes. Thirty pull-ups in nine minutes. To be fair, she kips her pull-ups. But she's also 43 and not training for the Marines. Three dead hangs is an absurdly low bar for any fit person, let alone one who wants to be a warrior.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 31, 2013 12:08 PM (eQJwb)

353

"Did six rounds of 10 hang power cleans and five pull ups in 9 minutes."

 

What's a 'hang power cleans'?

Posted by: troyriser at December 31, 2013 12:10 PM (V9ol4)

354 >>Everyone points out Israel having women in combat units
==

They have "some", but in practice Israel doesn't put women into combat units, unless the women jump though hoops to insert themselves there.  Most don't want to be in combat, and most combat units don't want to have them.

With a military that's roughly 50% women, only something like 3% of them are in actual combat units.  Even the ones who are, aren't in what might be termed "front line", but rather military police, artillery, and defensive type positions. 

Back on USMC, standards just have to be appropriate for the job/mission at hand, that's all.  If today's USMC really has no room for anyone who can't hump 80 lbs of weight up a hill, then so be it, but empirically, I just don't think that's true.   Women have been serving just fine in the USMC for years, and they haven't suddenly just LOST the ability to do pullups.

Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 12:15 PM (PwGfd)

355 "This language they speak, these academics, writersand artists of the Left, is its own construct. George Orwell wrote extensively about the political and psycho-social aspects of language manipulation, specifically by totalitarian states. In short, the words we use determine the way we think, the way we perceive the world. In knowledgeable hands, impressionable people can be made to believe anything the State tells them to believe.

Leftist academics don't teach young minds a certain discipline or field of study. They teach them a language. The language they teachshapes thoughts and establishes boundaries. That language negates reason, declares classical Socratic logic an artificial social construct, eliminates traditional moral concepts such as right and wrong, and puts in their place a system of thought that makes its owner susceptible to unreason and thus open to whatever follows, no matter how illogical or alien to human experience. It is, among other things, a control mechanism."

Well said!

Language shapes thoughts is what they discovered, and so they have pursued the empty enterprise of using language to pervert what is truthful and use it as a weapon.

There biggest accomplishment has been making saying the truth a ThoughtCrime ('racist!' etc).

Posted by: Zombie Commie Walter Cronkite at December 31, 2013 12:18 PM (oNqbW)

356 "311 Their college professors must deduct point for periods."

Periods are part of the patriarchy and its oppression.

Posted by: Zombie Commie Walter Cronkite at December 31, 2013 12:21 PM (oNqbW)

357 331 Queer-run animal sanctuary Vine Sanctuary,

Is there a reason that people need to know that an animal sanctuary is "queer run"?"

Yes, ...

"Vine Sanctuary - where the men are queer and the sheep are nervous."

Posted by: Zombie Commie Walter Cronkite at December 31, 2013 12:22 PM (oNqbW)

358 Sorry eco-feminists, you can't say happiness without saying penis

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 31, 2013 12:23 PM (z+4T3)

359 The saddest thing: As academic writing goes, this is actually not bad. It takes some effort, but I can actually understand what she's talking about. (Though I could have said essentially the same thing in two sentences: "Because only women have boobs, milk could be a feminist issue. It doesn't matter that most of the milk we drink comes from animals, because animals are oppressed, so they're part of the feminist sisterhood.") I've seen other race/class/gender/whatever stuff that is so indecipherable it might as well have been written in Old Slavonic; I doubt the authors themselves have a clue what they are saying.

Posted by: Wes at December 31, 2013 12:27 PM (R1mDg)

360 >>So who's running the numbers? How many male recruits are lost for each female recruit gained, when the PC effects are included? When female soldiers get lowered standards and preferential treatment - what does that do to the desirability of being a soldier?

I don't know the answers to these questions about quotas, but I don't really think this is an either/or situation.  I strongly doubt that the USMC is sacrificing field readiness so that it can have women in the corps.  Right now less than 10% of US marines are female, and I can tell you that there are plenty of them who do a great job, who can't do a single pullup.  While "maybe" they could all be replaced by males who are physically stronger (eg including nurses!), its not really clear to me that the USMC would really benefit from doing that.

I'm also going to guess that there aren't any male US Marines who are resentful that their female colleagues are held to a different standard with respect to upper body strength, let alone potential male recruits who decide that they don't want to become a Marine for this particular reason.  If this really mattered to any individual, that person probably shouldn't be a Marine anyway.

>>We go to war with the soldiers we have, but the structure of the armed forces can and does change in between conflicts.

Of course, and we have (at least to some extent) the ability to tailor our forces to our needs.   So these aren't trivial or unimportant questions.   

I think the issue here has been touched on above.  Its not that female Marines are being held to a different physical standard (this has been true for decades), its that now there is going to be some possibility for female marines put directly into combat, the issue of differing physical standards has reared its head again.

Again, my take on this is just that the recruit in question has to be held to a standard reasonable for their particular job/mission.  In practice, this very well may mean that 99.8%+ of female USMC Marine recruits can't make the cut into combat units, and if not, so be it. 

Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 12:37 PM (6Q9g2)

361 "heavily subsidized by the US taxpayer" = feminist professors suckling at the government tit.

Posted by: pst314 at December 31, 2013 12:37 PM (T4dRn)

362 I strongly doubt that the USMC is sacrificing field readiness so that it can have women in the corps. I'm sorry, but of course it is. There is not a single position that could not be filled by a man. And that man could also fight. The Corp does not take just anyone, even or especially, among men. I defy you to state where an all male Marine Corp would be deficient simple for the lack of uteri.

Posted by: toby928© attempts the triple and but mostly construction at December 31, 2013 12:50 PM (QupBk)

363 I'm also going to guess that there aren't any male US Marines who are resentful that their female colleagues are held to a different standard with respect to upper body strength, let alone potential male recruits who decide that they don't want to become a Marine for this particular reason. If this really mattered to any individual, that person probably shouldn't be a Marine anyway.

The point was more that the PC culture that says we "need" female soldiers is one which is focused on social engineering than on the true mission of the armed forces - destroying the enemy and being ready to do so.   That sort of PC culture is toxic to the work environment and social policies. 

The more likely reaction of the typical teenage soldier to female soldiers is, "cool, I want to bang her".   (and there have been several comments this morning observing the various brothels being run by female soldiers)   You'll note does not work towards the primary mission either, and is more destructivethan it is helpful.  


Its not that female Marines are being held to a different physical standard (this has been true for decades), its that now there is going to be some possibility for female marines put directly into combat, the issue of differing physical standards has reared its head again.  Again, my take on this is just that the recruit in question has to be held to a standard reasonable for their particular job/mission. In practice, this very well may mean that 99.8%+ of female USMC Marine recruits can't make the cut into combat units, and if not, so be it. 

Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2013 04:37 PM (6Q9g2)

When men and women are not interchangeable, it's folly to design the system as if they were.    Young men become stupider than usual in the presence of females (Sally's hit!   Get her to safety!); and that is not good when dealing with the mission-focused life-death situations the military is intended to be used in. 

Speaking of 99.8% - how many female NFL players are strutting on the field?    You might need a few more 9s.  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 31, 2013 12:57 PM (ioT3q)

364 @338 looking closely I was undecided over the issue until a military friend and former special ops member, pointed out to me that people in combat situation, in particular, marines and special ops, often were required to pick up a wounded ( dead weight) male soldiers and carried them for significant distances. Apparently, the chin-up requirement is one way of measuring the ability to do so. Although, I will argue that any good female gymnast or martial artist is quite capable of doing 20 plus chin ups (and in sets, usually up 60-80 during a four-five hour workout-- many at the advanced level can do hundreds of push-ups- one-handed, on fingers etc) MOST of these women tend to be on the PETITE side. Muscle weighs more, but most are in the low 100 lb range- hence they don't have to lift weight equal to a heavy guy. While we can pick up our weight in a chin-up or bench press-- this does not equate picking up a large, male soldier weighing 160 lb. plus, and carrying him a mile plus when needed. Regardless of advanced conditioning levels, most of us are going to have a problem with with that necessity. Bottom line: There are exceptions, but they should be required to prove it, just like the guys. These are lives at stake. If a women wanted to go into special ops, I don't think she has the right to risk the life of her fellow soldiers if she cannot demontrate her ability to lift and carry a large male upon request. Final comment: I'm finding myself raising an eyebrow at a women pursuing a serious career in the military who can't perform 20 chin ups. Requiring a high level of Conditioning should be part of the requirements. They must be recruiting a large number of females lacking physical conditioning.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at December 31, 2013 01:13 PM (FIiPL)

365 What that person wrote is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in ther rambling, incoherent treatise were they even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on the internet is now dumber for having read it.. I award you no advanced degree in feminist lacto interspecies studies, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: newmike at December 31, 2013 03:07 PM (HDLan)

366 "vegan feminists and ecofeminists positioned their own liberation and well-being as variously raced, classed, gendered, and sexual humans to be fundamentally interconnected to the well-being of other nondominant human and animal species"

I guess that makes them Dallas Cowboy fans.

Posted by: Levin at December 31, 2013 08:20 PM (cQ4Va)

367 I suspect they were weaned too late, thus remaining boobies-obcessed.

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