1

Where is the index card-sized return I was promised? Can we please end this nonsense?

 

 

It's right there, behind Obama's college transcripts and     Super Secret Kill List.

2 Early

3 Small systems are less corrupt. Therefore, no one in the system has an incentive for a smaller system.

4 Eliminating all deductions that can be claimed by fewer than 10,000 filers would be a good start.

5 Actually I just signed my Tax Return and it was not as bad as I thought. But I still hate this day.

6 Authorities say video surveillance footage from an Albany Wal-Mart store shows a uniformed U.S. Army officer being attacked by a man who had verbally harassed the soldier for his military service. Albany police released the footage after charging 47-year-old Yiqiang Wu of Schenectady with assault as a hate crime for ThursdayÂ’s fight at a checkout line. The Army captain told police that a man behind him in line began to yell derogatory comments at him about the United States and his service to the nation. Police say Wu then struck the officer several times in the face. The officer was treated at the scene. The video shows the officer, dressed in camouflage fatigues, confronting the man before being attacked. Wu is free on bail. It couldnÂ’t be determined if he had a lawyer. And yes the Soldier will probably get into trouble

7 Interestingly, paperwork costs carry the same deadweight losses as taxes. So difficulty filing taxes are taxes on taxes.

8 We used Tax Slayer in the past and were quite happy. For some reason we switched over to Turbo Tax a few years back and have just kept using it since it imports all your info over from year to year.  I think we might need switch back next year.

9 This is why a national sales/flat tax makes sense (in replacing our current income tax system). The cost of collection is dramatically lower and you could fire 3/4 of the IRS and we'd save millions in that alone.

10 I have heard so many stories about Intuit and their business practices that I refuse to buy or use their products.  I don't think that my little boycott has any effect on their bottom line, but I will use H&R Block as long as it is available.  They have their own issues with how they treat their "tax season" employee's but at least that is an at-will relationship.

11 And yes the Soldier will probably get into trouble

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 15, 2013 11:32 AM (9Bj8R)

 

The justification being, "You shouldn't have confronted the heckler.  You should have let him keep heckling you without showing any emotion or acting like a human or anything."

 

Ridiculous.  

12 @8, I use TaxAct, and it also lets you import previous years into your system. Mucho convenient. And even better -- it's not TurboTax, which I inherently distrust. Dunno why.

13 I have heard so many stories about Intuit and their business practices that I refuse to buy or use their products. I don't think that my little boycott has any effect on their bottom line, but I will use HR Block as long as it is available. They have their own issues with how they treat their "tax season" employee's but at least that is an at-will relationship. Posted by: drocity at April 15, 2013 11:35 AM (0zArV) One of my best friends are both accountants and they do my Taxes. The laugh at me alot, but still, they make it easy on me, mostly

14 OT (I know it's early), but isn't today also the Boston Marathon?  Do we have any 'Rons or 'Ettes who are running?

15 The justification being, "You shouldn't have confronted the heckler. You should have let him keep heckling you without showing any emotion or acting like a human or anything." Ridiculous. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at April 15, 2013 11:36 AM (4df7R) Not sure what his rules are for wearing NWUs off base.

16 I use TaxAct, and it also lets you import previous years into your system. Mucho convenient. And even better -- it's not TurboTax, which I inherently distrust. Dunno why.

Posted by: sunny-dee at April 15, 2013 11:36 AM (BWmrP)

I am to understand it's made by the people who got laid off then Intuit bought turbotax.

So it's like sticking it to Intuit doubly!

(Also I liked that for $17 I filed my federal and state return.)

17 At least forty Hezbollah fighters and Syrian soldiers have been killed in recent clashes with opposition fighters in the strategic town of al-Qusayr in Homs province, activists said on Saturday. In clashes with Syrian troops in Qusayr, the opposition fighters described on Friday what they called the “biggest intervention” by Lebanese militant movement, Hezbollah, in the two-year conflict that started as protests against President Bashar al-Assad but morphed into a civil war. Qusayr is a contested central Syrian town near a key highway between Damascus and the coast. According to the activists, Hezbollah fighters used Syrian government aircraft as backup to take control over large areas in the Tal al-Nabi, described as occupying the highest hill in the Qusayr region. The fierce fighting in Qusayr, which is located along the Syrian-Lebanese border, was followed by the deployment of Syrian soldiers, who were also backed by warplanes, on Friday. Government troops have stepped up counterattacks against opposition forces threatening regime supply lines on the country’s frontiers. Hope they all kill each other

18 Hmm, I'm liking the sound of TaxAct.   Remind me to give it a try next year!

19 I dream of a day where 100,000 or more taxpayers say, "Fuck you, IRS" and refuse to send in anything. No returns, no W-2, no 1099--NOTHING.

100k scofflaws would crash the system.

That's how close we are to a revolution: 100k or so standing strong.

I've thought about the cities that are sanctuary cities on immigration.

What is stopping the right from applying the same to other federal laws they don't like?

If we are to be a nation ruled by men, as the left wants, then we should have our men ruling as well.

20 Russia's foreign minister says that President Barack Obama's administration has signaled its desire to overcome the current strain in ties and focus on cooperation. In obamaese that means: Appeasement.

21 HR Block has some weird error code. Rejected my return 3x. I will mail it in I guess, as I am worn out and read MANY others had the same issue, and it is HRB's fault ... Some people imprted their returns to Turbo and used tht with no proble, but I;m having neurolicgal problems or something I get now every day which makes trying a new software not best idea at this time...  It is funny people filed months ago and got the same glitch and could not fix it. I gurantee no one has the same return s me. It has so many oddities this year - I should just sell everything I am sick of the complicated forms esp since my investments are nothing much

22 Hmm, I'm liking the sound of TaxAct. Remind me to give it a try next year!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at April 15, 2013 11:38 AM (4df7R)

This may be the last year I use an online program.  My taxes seem to be going up in complexity exponentially, and I intend to get every last bit back I can.  This year I almost missed an "Energy Credit" for insulating my attic (which was kinda a necessity anyway).

The Mortgage deduction seems easy enough, but I have to carry my up front PMI out over 84 months (which is getting confusing) and we can never figure out exactly when we can deduct any business expenses my wife has (they've cut travel and have her driving between the 2 offices now, which I think allows us to take mileage, but boy it's confusing. And what about unreimbursed business lunches?)

23

Russia's foreign minister says that President Barack Obama's administration has signaled its desire to overcome the current strain in ties and focus on cooperation.

 

Didn't we already do that with     that    dumbass Reset button?   Apparently the America/Russia relationship is    more    prone to BSOD    than    a    beta    of the  next    Windows OS.

24

It's right there, behind Obama's college transcripts and Super Secret Kill List unusually capacious ears. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at April 15, 2013 11:30 AM (4df7R)

FIFY

 

25 Vertex - a local company I have freelanced for - ugh. They LOVE our complex tax code. Am sure they lobby for it; I know they have lobbied heavily FOR Internet sales taxes lately

26 Intuit went offline the night before the filing deadlie and Zombieland was all verklempt about it? Hmm. Well, how about these thoughts: -- Do your own taxes, then. Since when is it so de rigueur to use a software program to do one's taxes? Do we also need software to piss and crap in the mornings? -- File before the last minute. -- Stop complaining like little bitch schoolgirls Grow up. And since when is it a problem for a private company to lobby lawmakers? Intuit's duty is only to its shareholders, not to commentators on the Internet. If you don't like Intuit's tactics then start a competing company that doesn't engage in lobbying.

27 Did we just lose a post? Or am I seeing pink elephants again?

28 AICPA lobbies heavily for it as well. They want to keep it complicated so you need CPAs. Main reason I stopped paying dues to them. Disgusting.

29 Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 15, 2013 11:44 AM (2up3Q)

I've noted that H&R Block and it's ilk are the key players stopping tax reform before (not here though i guess.)

The actual accountants don't care.  People will always need CPAs, they're jobs are safe.  It's the companies that have made a killing off the complex tax code that are worried.
(and H&R block needs to get people in the door so it can sell them on crappy investments and "rapid refunds" which should be a scam.)

Let's not also forget the BILLIONS in wasted money from fraudulent returns.

30 Where is the index card-sized return I was promised? Can we please end this nonsense?

Line 1: Your income:
Line 2: Compute Amount Owed: Copy number entered in Line 2

31 Yes, that's rain you feel on your back.

32 Did we just lose a post? Or am I seeing pink elephants again? Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 15, 2013 11:46 AM (9Bj8R) Yeah, we lost Drew's post about JCPenney's CEO, I mean, Senator Johnson.

33 Where is the index card-sized return I was promised? Can we please end this nonsense?

It's right there, behind Obama's college transcripts and Super Secret Kill List.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at April 15, 2013 11:30 AM (4df7R)

Heh.  Winner, right out of the gate.

34 And since when is it a problem for a private company to lobby lawmakers? Intuit's duty is only to its shareholders, not to commentators on the Internet. If you don't like Intuit's tactics then start a competing company that doesn't engage in lobbying.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at April 15, 2013 11:46 AM (r2PLg)

Intuit is free to lobby all it wants.

And we're free to point out that lobbying and encourage people to contact their representatives (and/or drum up press if possible) to tell them to tell Intuit to fuck off.

It's just a "sunshine, disinfectant" type thing.

Democracy baby!

35 And yes the Soldier will probably get into trouble
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 15, 2013 11:32 AM (9Bj8R)

What will probably happen is that a new reg will come out forbiding the wearing of uniforms in public places.  You know, so we don't offend the liberals who sleep so soundly under the blanket of freedom we provide.

36 Posted by: RoyalOil at April 15, 2013 11:38 AM (VjL9S)

My guess is that there are far more than 100k people who don't file.

We would need 10x or 100x to make a difference.

37 Everyone whines about how complex tax returns are. Yet the second someone suggests simplifying the code, everyone freaks out that their pet deduction will be taken away. And this includes the right. Mention the mortgage tax deduction being eliminated and you're a communist. Suggest that maybe the child tax credit should be taken away....you're a communist.

That's why the tax code is 20,000 pages. Because everyone want their pet deductions in place. Either you want a simple tax return and no deductions or a ton of deductions and a 100 tax return. There's no middle ground.

38 Totally disagree tsrblke. AICPA lobbies HARD against tax reform. Well known in the CPA 'community'. Remember, all accountants are not CPAs and not all CPAs are accountants. While many accountants wouldn't be bothered by a change most practicing CPAs would be hit hard by an easing of the code.

39 Totally disagree tsrblke. AICPA lobbies HARD against tax reform. Well known in the CPA 'community'. Remember, all accountants are not CPAs and not all CPAs are accountants. While many accountants wouldn't be bothered by a change most practicing CPAs would be hit hard by an easing of the code.

Posted by: pforeman at April 15, 2013 11:52 AM (ge1dt)

Eh, perhaps.

I do sometimes wonder if Tax reform would suddenly increase unemployment .  (It's like a second stimulus!)

40 Tim Geithner uses turbo tax.

//end commercial

41 And let's face it, doing your taxes isn't that heard. Especially with TurboTax. It's a few hours a year of work for most people. Unless you run multiple businesses or have trusts or carried interest type of income, it's really not that big a deal. For 80% of the public -  the salaried W2 with a mortgage and a couple of kids -  it shouldn't take more than 2 hours to do your taxes. Pre-TurboTax, yea it was a pain in the ass. Now, you type in numbers into a web form. No math required.

42 What will probably happen is that a new reg will come out forbiding the wearing of uniforms in public places. You know, so we don't offend the liberals who sleep so soundly under the blanket of freedom we provide.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 15, 2013 11:51 AM (fwARV)

 

Given the assailant's name   ("47-year-old Yiqiang Wu")    ,     I'm going to assume that s/h/it is at the very least of Chinese descent.           If s/h/it wants a lesson in military oppression, s/h/it should try throwing this tantrum in Beijing, aimed at a member of the Chinese military.

43 Somebody stomped on DrewM's Johnson.

44 RE: Don't you wish this whole process was easier?

----

Simple solution would be to auto-calculate all of the input fields on the official 1040 Tax Form.  I was annoyed yesterday when I had to redo it all again after I thought to add a $99 iOS developer fee to the business expenses on my Schedule C.  This is not complex math.  Simple arithmetic that cascades down.

45

The complexity of the tax code is a scandal on so many levels.   I just walked down the hall to one of my partner's office.   He farms his taxes out to an accountant because they're too complex for him to do.   I spent the better part of the weekend doing mine.   Now, I don't have extraordinariliy complicated finances and I'm also a lawyer.    If taxes are that hard for me (and too hard for my partner), then what must they be like for the average family?  

 

Never has going Galt looked so good.

46 What will probably happen is that a new reg will come out forbiding the wearing of uniforms in public places. You know, so we don't offend the liberals who sleep so soundly under the blanket of freedom we provide. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 15, 2013 11:51 AM (fwARV) I've usually had good experiences being in Uniform in public with 2 exceptions: 1) Some dumb ass liberal here in NJ made some stupid crack at a rest stop 2) I was on the Campus of Columbia University in NYC and felt uncomfortable being amongst the enemy. Other that that everyone has been real nice and all the old Vets want to talk to me, especially WW2 Types

47 Last time I used TurboTax, I made a goof and got a $9000+ bill from the IRS. Had to pay H&R Block to clean up my mess, and now I use them exclusively.

48

Do your own taxes, then. Since when is it so de rigueur to use a software program to do one's taxes? Do we also need software to piss and crap in the mornings?

 

I  was informed a few years ago  by the IRS that I could no longer file any other way than E-File.

49 If s/h/it wants a lesson in military oppression, s/h/it should try throwing this tantrum in Beijing, aimed at a member of the Chinese military.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at April 15, 2013 11:55 AM (4df7R)

You could just remove the slashes.  "If shit wants a lesson in military oppiression, shit should try throwing this tantrum in Beijing, aimed at a member of the Chinese military". 

It works a lot better, saves time typing and is generally easier to follow while still conveying the same message. 

Of course, attacking a soldier for his service here just validates him while making you look like a pussy.  "Why yes, I DO support the Constitution and I do protect your right to be a douche-canoe."

Attacking a soldier in Beijing gets you shot in the face and your family billed for the round.

50 41 Mr mau mau,

and that is why your buddy Timmy G "oopsed" millions...

Taxes are not as hard as they are made out to be, God knows I have taught Tax Prep classes taxes are far harder than they *sjhould* be...

What was your total wages and or benefits as "x'?

Multiply "x"*.17%

"send a check or money order to 'you're welcome dumbass.gov"

the end.

51

I use TaxAct, and it also lets you import previous years into your system. Mucho convenient. And even better -- it's not TurboTax, which I inherently distrust. Dunno why.

 

TaxAct for the win.

52

("47-year-old Yiqiang Wu")

 

Who peed on your carpet, Dude?

53 47 Jones in CO,

not carrying Block's water but the dumbest H+R Block employee...in deference to Mau Mau I'll say "me" once upon a time has been through a minimum of 60 hours of training and has done no less than fifteen different taxpayer scenario paper returns by the numbers....

The IRS tries to hire our EAs to be auditors....

"the end"

54 Who peed on your carpet, Dude?

That rug really tied the room together.

55 I do my taxes on paper and mail them in on April 15 every year, despite the pleas from the national and state governments that I simply go over to e-filing, and incredulous questions from family and friends that I not go to a professional, and questions from my wife on why I don't file earlier (especially the federal, which usually includes a modest refund from what has been withheld).

Because. Fuck. You.  The pain I suffer each year is a bit of schadenfreude on myself, I suppose.  These fuckers want to take over every last bit of freedom I possess, and I want to stay reminded of that while the couch surfers and slackers get their e-refunds in February each year.4

We can't even win on the tax issue.  We're fucked as a nation.  If I were wealthy I'd be thinking about Singapore right about now.

56 Tax Slayer  because,  Junior!

57 Also I think that the tax code is so labyrinthine because year after year, Congress tweaks portions of it to favor this group or that business entity. Plus there's the whole idea that the tax code is mind-numbingly complex by design, so as to give lawyers something to do: namely, represent accidental tax cheats. Always remember: someone is benefiting from the built-in complexity of the tax laws, and it for damn sure is NOT the taxpayer.

58 Mornin' all! I use Taxact, works well, if you can handle all the ads you have to click past about upgrading to their fancy non-free version. Saves your info from previous year so you can use that if want. Not getting back as much as I'd like but could have been worse.

This might have been better on the previous thread. . . but last night I was watching TV and was jarred to suddenly hear a Target ad that was half English, half Spanish. It was tasteful and in theory I don't mind, targeting your audiences is advertising 101, but is this going to be a thing now? It made me very not happy in a get-off-ma-lawn sort of way. If my grandparents learned English after immigrating here so can everyone else, and immersion, not coddling, is the best way.

59

I was visiting in South Africa in 2009, and our hostess requested I look at her tax return. Everything was online on the government web site. The taxes were only on her investment income, and they had the information already filled out. It was very easy. She just had to figure out what to pay for estimated payments for the next year, so had to enter any changes she thought she may have.

 

I am a CPA and have been doing tax returns since 1983. It is crazy how complicated the returns are. How many stupid forms have to be filled out.

 

I would be very much in favor of a simplification of the tax code. CPAs still do audit and financial statement and bookkeeping work. I won't be out of work any time soon.

 

Another area that is crazy is estate planning and gift tax returns and all that.

60 That rug really tied the room together.
Did it match the drapes?

61 55 John Milton's Ghost,

JMG the only problem I have with Singapore et al is that I suspect we really are the canary in the coal mine...

but yeah if I settle in the ArkLatex I am thinking hedging in Brazil would not be 'totally dumb"

62 Tax Act might be the way to go next year, from the sounds of folks here.  Then again,if my wife's business continues to grow, I might just be paying someone to do them next year.

63 I feel like a special little angel when Uncle Sam wants to give back 20% of the money the gov't jacked out of my wages.

64 My daughter is getting a nice refund and she's happy.

65 "In the most technologically advanced countries, filing a tax return is free, easy and fast: Instead of taxpayers painstakingly calculating figures themselves, the government provides estimates of what they owe based on the very bank records and wages it already collects. " You already have that here; the difficulty arises in claiming and demonstrating exemptions from the default tax rates.

66 63 Fritz,

I pay a higher % of my income as taxation than Obamacles I the giggler.....

somehow while this state of being was supposed to enrage me towards Mirror universe Mitt Romney I am supposed to nod my head in admiration at King Putt

67 64 NGU,

I promised myself I am not gonna ask questions today, so I am happy she is happy.

68 I used TurboTax to finish my returns yesterday. In 2012 I had two home repairs each costing over $600. Turns out the govt wanted me to issue 1099's for those repairs, so the IRS would be sure to dog the roofer and the furnace repair guy for their cut of the $. Let me say that again: anytime you pay somebody over $600 for a service now, you have to tell the IRS about it. "... sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance."

69 68 GP,

and the 1099 pressure is only going to get worse because of Obamacare....

I had a series of posts about the coming race between small employers and the IRS and 1099 contract labor....

"yeehaw"

Frankly since being here illegally and on aid is the path to being the "noblest sorta citizens in America" I am running out of reasons to tell people not to go on the dole and keep working under the table...

"laws" they're optional boys and ethics are flexible...

70

Man I was ready to murder everyone at I tuit last night. Tried to do the free e-file on their website for my son who is in college and too flaky to trust to do it himself. Got to the very end, ready to file and - wait! If you actually want to keep a copy of your tax return you have to cough up $29.95. And if you want to file your state return, that's another $29.95. Bait and switch tactics there.

I did not think my regular TurboTax software would work for more than one tax return, but it did. So I went back and did the whole thing over again, and printed out the state tax return and signed it for my son and mailed it today. Saved myself $60. Won't buy TurboTax again though, now that I know they are bait and switch artists and also lobbying against free and simple e-filing. Bastards.

71

Where is the index card-sized return I was promised? Can we please end this nonsense?

 

Here it is:

 

Line 1: How much did you make last year?

 

Line 2:  How much do you have left over?

 

Line 3: Send us Line 2. Thank  you, the IRS.

72 37 Everyone whines about how complex tax returns are. Yet the second someone suggests simplifying the code, everyone freaks out that their pet deduction will be taken away. And this includes the right. Mention the mortgage tax deduction being eliminated and you're a communist. Suggest that maybe the child tax credit should be taken away....you're a communist. 

That's why the tax code is 20,000 pages. Because everyone want their pet deductions in place. Either you want a simple tax return and no deductions or a ton of deductions and a 100 tax return. There's no middle ground. 

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 15, 2013 11:52 AM (HDgX3)


Hey, don't forget that we're dealing with dishonest Democrats who just want more taxes.  It's one thing to work with an honest party and compromise on which tax complexities to take out - it's another when the other opposing party just wants everything. 

73 >> OT (I know it's early), but isn't today also the Boston Marathon? Do we have any 'Rons or 'Ettes who are running? Yes, my wife is running, and I know another moron wife who's running as well.

74 I use H & R Block at Home software (used to be called Tax Cut). I tried TurboTax once. Hated it. H & R is much more user friendly and intuitive. Better than a CPA (says the CPA).

75 "Where is the index card-sized return I was promised? " You don't want that. The idea behind the IRS proposing the index-card return is that the IRS would already know all the details of your finances, so you didn't need to supply them with any information. This is the IRS lobbying for the complete abolition of financial privacy.

76

Posted by: gp at April 15, 2013 12:09 PM (+Jpqc)

Can't remember if was said here or elsewhere, but taxes are the government's way of holding a gun to your head they can trigger at anytime. The code is so convoluted and nebulous that pretty much everyone is culpable for tax errors; if you get too out of line they can sic the dogs of the IRS you as needed. Is part of the reason I am relieved in years when I can't take more than the standard deduction; less chance of them sniffing around me.

77 75 Obama the Masterful,

correct...

the bouncing baby boy tax code that was "direly needed let's pass an amendment" that impacted less than 1% of Americans at inception....

well it doesn't ask about your business it fucking tells you your business now.

78 And you get 5 free e-files, so you can be nice and share with your family & friends.

79 I did not think my regular TurboTax software would work for more than one tax return, but it did. So I went back and did the whole thing over again, and printed out the state tax return and signed it for my son and mailed it today. Saved myself $60. Won't buy TurboTax again though, now that I know they are bait and switch artists and also lobbying against free and simple e-filing. Bastards. 

Posted by: rockmom at April 15, 2013 12:11 PM (Cjjf6)

IIRC, the box software is good for 5 e-files.  So yeah.

I switched away from the free TurboTax online filing because they nagged the heck out of me (5+ e-mails, "Hey, do your taxes").  Did TaxAct's equivalent this year, was overall happy with it.  

80 Jeff MacNelly, late political cartoonist at the used-to-be readable Chi Tribune, used to publish an awesome version of the 1040 every year. Thanks to Gov Brownback of Kansas--got a nice state refund due to the Rural Opportunity Tax Zone credit.

81 Whoops, that should have been TaxCut, not TaxAct.  Am done with TurboTax either way.  

82

But millions of people who no longer have jobs have had their tax filing greatly simplified.

your welcome

 

83 I've used TurboTax for 15 years and love it. My tax situation is complicated because I'm a partner in two companies and am going to set up another corporation in a few months. It makes complicated forms easier to deal with.

That said, we have got to simplify our tax code. I still like the Dick Armey: here's a postcard: fill in what you made and send in a check.

84 68 I used TurboTax to finish my returns yesterday. In 2012 I had two home repairs each costing over $600. Turns out the govt wanted me to issue 1099's for those repairs, so the IRS would be sure to dog the roofer and the furnace repair guy for their cut of the $.

Let me say that again: anytime you pay somebody over $600 for a service now, you have to tell the IRS about it.

"... sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance."

Posted by: gp at April 15, 2013 12:09 PM (+Jpqc)

___________________

That $600 thing was mostly repealed. The portion that's left applies to businesses. If you had repairs on your home, unless that home is used for a business, you don't have to issue any 1099s.

And while that's a pain in the ass, would you rather the contractor pocket that $600 repair and not pay tax on it?

85 I promised myself I am not gonna ask questions today, so I am happy she is happy. Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 15, 2013 12:08 PM (LRFds) She has a entry level management job at Federated Department Stores and it's straight salary with out much other going on on her return, so she gets money back

86 Heh. <i>I like the Dick Armey</I>. My typos amuse me.

87 Because. Fuck. You. The pain I suffer each year is a bit of schadenfreude on myself, I suppose. These fuckers want to take over every last bit of freedom I possess, and I want to stay reminded of that while the couch surfers and slackers get their e-refunds in February each year.4

 

Posted by: JohnMilton'sGhost at April 15, 2013 12:01 PM (2YAiz)

 

 

I. Love. You. Man.

 

 

in a totally non  homo-erotic way.  Bud Light?

88 Okay, how do I do Italians, bold, and so on? Apparently standard HTML doesn't work.

I can do ampersands: &&&&&&&.

89 Crap. Apparently I can't do ampersands in Chrome. Lemme' try the HTML codes: &amp; &amp; &amp; &amp; &amp; &amp; &amp; &amp; &amp;

90 @Michael:

Use [] instead of <>. 

91 Let's try that again. 

Use [ ].  

92 One more try.

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93 I love Italians.

94 I can do ampersands: . Or not. AoSHQ QUICK FORMAT SURVIVAL GUIDE Formatting commands in the Pixy Apocalypse are as follows: [ i ] text [ /i ] (remove the spaces in the brackets) for text [ b ] bold [ /b ] [ s ] strikethrough [ /s ] [ u ] underline [ /u ] Ampersands require disabling scripts for minx.cc. Don't look at me, man, it's Pixy's thang. Bears are Old High Magic. Don't ask. Failing to close your formatting sends you to the barrel. If you don't know, asking just makes it worse.

95 Thanks, ConservativeMonster.

So when is Pixy going to bring commenting into the 1990s?

96 Thanks, BrotherCavil. I lurk, but rarely post, and know what the barrel means. I don't want to go there.

97 No, I do not want the government to tell me what I owe based on the fact that IT COLLECTS MY BANK AND SALARY RECORDS. Are you nuts?

I just want the tax laws squared down to one simple proposition: 10% off the top, period.

98 I do my returns on paper;   the idea that I have to pay   a fee in order to pay taxes   electronically    is ridiculous to me.  I wrote my own spreadsheet to run scenarios throughout the year, and merely need to fill in the final numbers on the pdf files I mail in.

99 98 Vashta Nerada,

Vashta one of the things I *may* do sometime is have a set of people go through two years of service to block and then pay me rent in a locality to charge a flat per client fee and teach the client to use the softwaret he client buys and teach the client to navigate Pub 17s...

The more people understand about the tax code the angrier they get if they pay in and I want angry people.

100 97 Anwyn,

the best way to do that would be a Constitutional Amendment abolishing income tax and converting the US to a sales tax and revenue based system...

the problem is leviathan would go nuts.

101 96 Michael the Hobbit,

Hop in the water's warm...the more posters we have the less crazy I look eh?

Glad you're here.

102

My Suggestion for the ONLY required allowed income tax form:

[And, yes, you (not your employer) should have to do this each month].

A. IRS Tax Submittal form for the month of: _______, 20_

B. How much did you make: $________

C. Move the decimal point of the amount you entered on Line B one place to the left. Enter this new amount on Line D.

D. Taxes Due: $_________

E. Write a check for the amount on line D, staple it to this form, and mail it to the IRS at the address below....

103 the best way to do that would be a Constitutional Amendment abolishing income tax and converting the US to a sales tax and revenue based system... the problem is leviathan would go nuts. Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 15, 2013 01:00 PM (LRFds) But that would be regressive! And the point of the state is to make the serfs completely miserable their whole life filling out paperwork and asking permission to do what free people can do without asking.

104 test

105 FORMATTING VICTORY!!

106 I've used Turbo Tax, since it was good enough for Geitner, its good enough for me. My problem was with their "Its Deductible" module. It used to be part of the program, but now you have to go to their website to put in your deductions. They made their own software harder to use.
I liked that they had all the forms, it was always a pain to do it by hand, and then have to try to find the right form from the IRS. And they also filled in the state forms which saved a lot of duplicated efforts.
But I'd really like a simplified tax code. I'm embarrassed that I can't figure out the instructions and do my taxes by myself in an hour.

107 Keep in mind that if the government prepared your taxes for you, that we would have to hire many more government employees to run the system increasing taxes further. Also, by allowing the private market to supply these services there are more choices. The real problem is not who prepares the taxes but the complicated tax system itself. Intuit did not create that system.

108 "I pay a higher % of my income as taxation than Obamacles I the giggler....." THIS.

109 California requires many of us to e-file, and charges a penalty if we don't. Nevertheless, the business portion of the efile system has been down all day. The message (on the system and from the workers) is that the system is experiencing heavy usage. On April 15? No d'uh. Intuit runs California's system, perhaps?!?