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March 11, 2014

Two Lefties Grouse About Obama at Salon, With One Suggesting He Might be a "Sociopath"
— Ace

I'm not sure this is anything, but you be the judge.

The bulk of the dialogue between Thomas "What's the Matter with Kansas?" Frank and a guy named Adolph Reed Jr is mostly about their upset that Obama isn't sufficiently pro-labor or pro-income redistribution.

I'll leave it up to you add to your own editorial punctuation to that sentence, but, for the lazy among you, here are some pre-written editorial punctuation marks you can just slip in there: (!), (?), (!!?), (????!!!!), (WTF, DUDE?!?!!)

Reed's central criticism of the contemporary left is that it has become focused on identity politics. As he says in the interview: "The problem with a notion of equality or social justice that's rooted in the perspectives of multiculturalism and diversity is that from those perspectives you can have a society that's perfectly just if less than 1 percent of the population controls 95 percent of the stuff, so long as that one percent is half women and 12 percent black, and 12 percent Latino and whatever the appropriate numbers are gay."
This he attributes to "electoralitis," the imperative of electing Democrats to public office. While Reed and Frank acknowledge that such an approach has been successful in some elections, they are scornful of it. Says Frank: "[Democrats] think they have an iron clad coalition behind them. They have this term for it: the Coalition for [actually 'of'] the Ascendent. I forget what it is. Made up of these groups, and labor is not one of them."
Reed disdains what he calls "the cult of the most oppressed," the idea "that there's something about the purity of these oppressed people that has the power to condense the mass uprising. I've often compared it to the cargo cults. . . . As my dad used to say, 'If oppression conferred heightened political consciousness there would be a People's Republic of Mississippi.' "

Go to Taranto (the link goes to BotW) for the discussion of "sociopathy." Reed analogizes Obama's "blank slate" persona to that of a sociopath, notoriously manipulative individuals who can become whatever their intended target needs them to be. He doesn't push on the idea too hard (and it does seem a bit overmuch), but I thought it would make for a good screaming headline.

The media taught me that!

Posted by: Ace at 08:28 AM | Comments (210)
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1 First?

Posted by: Mike at March 11, 2014 08:31 AM (Rk8LS)

2 The lefties seem pretty weak tea. I could boss them around.

And who names their kid Adolph?

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 11, 2014 08:32 AM (6H6o8)

3 Obama is a socialistpath.

Posted by: that's right, I said it at March 11, 2014 08:33 AM (TGvyc)

4 Serious question: Other than anger, have you ever seen Obama portray a genuine emotion? For a guy who cares so much about the oppressed, have you ever seen him be genuinely sad?

Posted by: AmishDude at March 11, 2014 08:33 AM (T0NGe)

from those perspectives you can have a society that's perfectly just if less than 1 percent of the population controls 95 percent of the stuff, so long as that one percent is half women and 12 percent black, and 12 percent Latino and whatever the appropriate numbers are gay."

Camps are A-OK as long as we run the camps.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 11, 2014 08:33 AM (dquK7)

6 4 Serious question: Other than anger, have you ever seen Obama portray a genuine emotion?

_________

Good point. Even on election night, it seemed like he was angry.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 11, 2014 08:33 AM (0LHZx)

7 "I thought it would make for a good screaming headline." That sounds a bit bossy to me...as well as patriarchal and sexist...sniff!

Posted by: runningrn at March 11, 2014 08:34 AM (o6g4X)

8 I think Reed sounds pretty bossy.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 11, 2014 08:34 AM (dfYL9)

"electoralitis," the imperative of electing Democrats to public office

There is documented evidence that this is a bipartisan disease.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 11, 2014 08:35 AM (dquK7)

10 Looks to me like two more libs spouting gobbldygook. Sort of a leftist version of what Our Conservative Betters like to do.

In short, they're glossing over Choom Boy's America-hating sociopathy by cloaking it in polysyllabic buzzwords.

If we ever get down to reality, President Historic FirstÂ© is toast, as everyone knows he is the most unfit individual ever to hold the nation's highest office. But as long as we keep pussyfooting around the basic issue, he's home free and can do his evil work unhindered.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 11, 2014 08:35 AM (jiM5S)

11 For a guy who cares so much about the oppressed, have you ever seen him be genuinely sad? Nope. He seems pretty free of emotion except when he's pissed off because he didn't get his way or when he's mocking. That's pretty much it. Remember, he was lauded for his even, "cool" temperament.

Posted by: runningrn at March 11, 2014 08:35 AM (o6g4X)

12 I've heard this argument before....the Dems coalition is so fragile it will implode. I don't know about that. As long as each faction gets its share of the handouts, the coalition can last a long time. Illegals and blacks don't like each other. But they are close to 100% loyal to Democrats because they both get a lot of stuff from Democrats.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 11, 2014 08:35 AM (0LHZx)

13 Others have been summoned.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2014 08:35 AM (E7Zh9)

14 I'm smart! I can handle things!!1! I want rspect!

Posted by: Fredo-bama at March 11, 2014 08:36 AM (Ec6wH)

15 Who the hell names their kid "Adolph" post-1930?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 11, 2014 08:36 AM (4df7R)

16 The bulk of the dialogue between Thomas "What's the Matter with Kansas?" Frank and a guy named Adolph Reed Jr.

Adolph? Well, there you have it. Racist.

Posted by: EC at March 11, 2014 08:36 AM (GQ8sn)

17 Serious question: Other than anger, have you ever seen Obama portray a genuine emotion? Is eyes-rolling-back-in-the-head an emotion? 'Cuz I've seen that in the mirror.

Posted by: Reggie Love at March 11, 2014 08:36 AM (FcR7P)

18 I actually think that Obama is too lazy to show any emotion unless it's something that he cares about (which isn't much of anything but himself). The man doesn't have an empathetic bone in his body. He is one cold fish.

Posted by: runningrn at March 11, 2014 08:37 AM (o6g4X)

19 4 ---Serious question: Other than anger, have you ever seen Obama portray a genuine emotion? ------------------ He did shed tears when the results came in on election night 2008. Would you consider imperious condescension, bilious ridicule, and petulant impatience emotions?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 11, 2014 08:37 AM (dfYL9)

20 Barry is a mirror. Reflective, shiny and shallow.

Posted by: huerfano at March 11, 2014 08:37 AM (bAGA/)

21 They talk but all I hear is BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 11, 2014 08:37 AM (Os+6p)

22 The SCOAMF is a gutless pussy.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 11, 2014 08:38 AM (DrWcr)

23 Sociopath a/k/a Con man.

And who was conned?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 11, 2014 08:38 AM (aq/zi)

The reason that this class war shit and socialism never really took hold here is:

Our value of private property and our very large middle class.

Also, most of the now rich were poor/middle class at one point. We have no landed aristocracy, outside of Washington.

I hear some stoned hippie yell at me for being the 1%, I laugh and laugh and laugh. LIsten you little fucker, you think you're the only one who ever held a mop?

This is what makes America great.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 11, 2014 08:38 AM (tVTLU)

I don't know about the sociopath business, but the analysis you quote here looks pretty accurate.

The Democrat Party is very lost, and whatever the people think are their unifying principles, aren't. If any of them ever stopped to think logically about why they support it, they wouldn't. Which of course, they won't, so they do.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 11, 2014 08:38 AM (TOk1P)

26 OK, I don't even understand that first paragraph in the gray box - what is Reed's point?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 11, 2014 08:39 AM (aq/zi)

27 Adolph Reed Jr. Ja, Mein Fuhrer

Posted by: Citizen X at March 11, 2014 08:39 AM (7ObY1)

28 Psychiatry is abused often enough by the professionals. I'm not happy to see it more and more abused by the amateurs, too.

Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 11, 2014 08:39 AM (r7mtu)

29 This Reed guy is someone who never in his life has heard a dissenting viewpoint. Someone raised by the hard left, a red diaper baby, who has been in a like-thinking cocoon his entire life.
"Serious question: Other than anger, have you ever seen Obama portray a genuine emotion?"
Yes, he seems genuinely happy and good with kids. He really does, in fact it seems to be the only time in his life where he seems genuine. Its actually attractive

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2014 08:39 AM (zfY+H)

30 Girly men feel the need to control their emotions in public. I think this explains Obama's deadpan expression. In private, Obama is all 'girl, get out of here".

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at March 11, 2014 08:40 AM (oDCMR)

31 All Leftists are certainly sociopaths - it's just a matter of degree. Have you ever met one who, after about 1 drink, was not willing to admit he is on board with murder for political ends? What's funny to me is that these nutters complaining about Obama could just as easily, in another time and place, have been complaining about Comrade Stalin's soft stance on the Ukrainian Problem. "How can merely allowing them to die of starvation serve world communism, when actively shooting them all would serve as a more powerful statement of opposition to the running dog capitalist fascists?" They're all a bunch of loons disconnected from real life.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 11, 2014 08:40 AM (8NsSj)

32 Reed's point is that Obama and the Democrats are focusing on identity (race, class, sexuality) politics instead of class warfare/economic status politics.

Posted by: ace at March 11, 2014 08:40 AM (/FnUH)

33 Actually Â…. in clinical terms Jugears is what's known as a PhoneyBoloneyMarxopath.

Posted by: ontherocks at March 11, 2014 08:41 AM (dYBqc)

34 What's the matter with Kansas is that there is too damn much freedom. We need more enlightened government control.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 11, 2014 08:41 AM (XUKZU)

35 And as per Hillary, what difference does it make?

He's in his second term, and will never run for elective office again, so Mr. PenAndPhone is gonna unleash his full agenda whether you call him a sociopath or a lightbringer.

Intellectualize your stupidity to your heart's content, guys. It's already over.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 11, 2014 08:41 AM (aq/zi)

36 He doesn't push on the idea too hard (and it does seem a bit overmuch

Not to me. Obaka is a raging narcissist. The two seem to be co-located.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 11, 2014 08:41 AM (Y/M/K)

37 His complaint would be that the Democrats are just using identity politics to win elections without ever actually tackling the Revolution!!! the country actually needs.

Posted by: ace at March 11, 2014 08:41 AM (/FnUH)

38 Coalition for [actually 'of'] the Ascendent.

Jeezy Creezy, the left really IS a cult.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 11, 2014 08:41 AM (4df7R)

39 I think it's more likely Obama has Narcissistic Personality Disorder except that official designation has been taken out of the DSM. Of course, I'm not a psychologist and don't play one on T.V. either so you can take my opinion with a huge grain of salt. I used to annoy a leftist on the internet who was a school counselor who insisted that I shouldn't diagnose people without a degree in psychology but they liked to suggest that I had NPD and they had never met or or given me a battery of tests either, so there you go. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2014 08:41 AM (XyM/Y)

40 Oh, and "overmuch"?

(!), (?), (!!?), (????!!!!), (WTF, DUDE?!?!!)

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 11, 2014 08:42 AM (Y/M/K)

41 >>>Not to me. Obaka is a raging narcissist. The two seem to be co-located. yeah but I've always thought that nasty psychological diagnoses get thrown around too much, you know? There's some best-seller recently that suggests that like half of CEOs are sociopaths, right?

Posted by: ace at March 11, 2014 08:42 AM (/FnUH)

42 ace, you should really learn how to use punctuation.

MWR <-- being bossy!

(I keed, I keed!)

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 11, 2014 08:42 AM (4df7R)

Reed's point is that Obama and the Democrats are focusing on identity (race, class, sexuality) politics instead of class warfare/economic status politics.

Me confuse.

Posted by: eleven at March 11, 2014 08:43 AM (fsLdt)

44 And who was conned?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 11, 2014 12:38 PM (aq/zi)

His dumbassed voters. The rest of us knew he was not fit for the office.

Posted by: flounder at March 11, 2014 08:43 AM (Kkt/i)

45 So after 5 failed years as preznit, and several more as a worthless senator of various strips, it just now dawns on them that he's a sociopath? As a sociopath (functional, no bodies in the basement) I know what they look like. I spotted his ass during his keynote speech at the DNC in 2000? 2004? whenever. Saw that fucker coming a mile away.

Posted by: tangonine at March 11, 2014 08:43 AM (x3YFz)

46 Worse than a Sociopath. Teh JEF is a Malignant Narcissist who is both Bitchy and Bossy..... and stupid too

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 11, 2014 08:43 AM (32Ze2)

47 Also, do guys named Adolph just tend to tyranny and socialism?

Posted by: prescient11 at March 11, 2014 08:43 AM (tVTLU)

48 17 Serious question: Other than anger, have you ever seen Obama portray a genuine emotion? Once and only once. It was at a press conference a while back, when one of the Legacy Media stepped out of line and asked an actual semi-tough question. A flicker of genuine hatred passed across the JEF's face, and he made some weird cut-the-neck motion with his hand. He looked in that moment exactly like a Third World dictator or a Kim Jong Un, sending the reporter to the firing squad. I remember Red Eye covered it, with Gutfeld wondering what exactly the neck-cut motion was supposed to mean. All I know was, it was chilling to the core, and I think it was a brief moment when the JEF showed his true self. The look on his face was pure, unadulterated hatred. I think I'll start calling him Barack Jong Dumb.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 11, 2014 08:44 AM (7ObY1)

49 Girly men feel the need to control their emotions in public. I think this explains Obama's deadpan expression. In private, Obama is all 'girl, get out of here". The bossy bitch.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2014 08:44 AM (E7Zh9)

50 obama is a nasty ignorant self absorbed SOB prick bastard

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 11, 2014 08:44 AM (t3UFN)

51 >>Reed's point is that Obama and the Democrats are focusing on identity (race, class, sexuality) politics instead of class warfare/economic status politics.

Thanks for the clarification.
Not that surprising that Obama's job experience is as a Community Organizer in Saul Alinsky's old stomping grounds. That's what they do - divide, especially by race.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 11, 2014 08:44 AM (aq/zi)

52 Your headline sucked me into this thread, Ace. It worked. I am a puppet of the media.

Posted by: Soona at March 11, 2014 08:44 AM (Js/gY)

53 Reed's point is that Obama and the Democrats are focusing on identity (race, class, sexuality) politics instead of class warfare/economic status politics.

Posted by: ace at March 11, 2014 12:40 PM (/FnUH)

So he's ticked off that leftist academics are exploiting the identity politics espoused in leftist academia (race, class, gender)?

Does he understand words?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 11, 2014 08:45 AM (4df7R)

54 I can't get no... Sociopathifaction No No NO!

Posted by: Eared Leader at March 11, 2014 08:45 AM (pMGkg)

55 I would have to know Obama well to declare him a sociopath (and, no thanks!) That's a serious label to hang on anyone, and I have known a real sociopath all my life. Given that Obama's parents both abandoned him, it wouldn't be surprising if he really did develop a personality disorder. But problems in his character may account for much without indicating a true PD. Sociopathy is not curable through therapy or anything else. If you know someone with this disorder, stay away or at least be always-vigilant if you must have any contact at all.

Posted by: LadyS at March 11, 2014 08:45 AM (tMTsS)

56 Yes, he seems genuinely happy and good with kids. He really does, in fact it seems to be the only time in his life where he seems genuine. Its actually attractive

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2014 12:39 PM (zfY+H)

Well he's happy when he's around people that are his intellectual equals.

Posted by: buzzion at March 11, 2014 08:45 AM (LI48c)

Citizen X:

I honestly think the guy is lazy and incompetent. Oh he believes in the ideals of the left, don't doubt it for a second. It's just he's not driving the train. This is all bullshit to him.

A real tyrant would have had that fucking website working on time.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 11, 2014 08:45 AM (tVTLU)

58 What's the matter with Thomas Frank?

Posted by: Kansas at March 11, 2014 08:46 AM (ImNRL)

59 Monday, Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor stated that she believed that women and minorities had to crash the halls of power in order to Â“change the dialogue in this country.Â” She said that Â“moneyÂ” was the obstacle to women and minorities having a say in government, adding, Â“weÂ’re going to have to work the political system at the highest level.Â” Sotomayor was speaking at the University of Washington, pushing her book, My Beloved Life. A student questioned if she was optimistic about the future of the country. She stated, Â“IÂ’m very optimistic about the power of minorities to change the dialogue in this country.Â” Yeah i mean it's not like she has an ax to grind or anything?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 11, 2014 08:46 AM (t3UFN)

60 I like the part where the polisci professor calls Obama a cipher then also implies that a majority of the Ivy league students he teaches are the same. I feel much better about our educational system.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 11, 2014 08:46 AM (Os+6p)

61 Girly men feel the need to control their emotions in public. I think this explains Obama's deadpan expression.

Sure, that's why everyone here so admires Boehner's constant weeping. Cause it's manly. None of that stoic bullshit. Real men constantly vent their emotions and draw attention to their feelings.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 11, 2014 08:46 AM (+lsX1)

62 Parents trying to rehab "Adolph"? Why? If there was a name shortage or something I'd get it.

Posted by: Beagle at March 11, 2014 08:46 AM (sOtz/)

63 I consider Obama less a sociopath and more a member of Homo Neglectus.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 11, 2014 08:46 AM (slXFW)

"Reed analogizes Obama's "blank slate" persona to that of a sociopath, notoriously manipulative individuals who can become whatever their intended target needs them to be."

A sociopath is afflicted with a very specific and (fortunately for us) very rare personality disorder, one for which there is no known treatment or cure and one that seems to be entirely too broadly defined and widely assigned by mental health professionals. Obama admits to being a 'blank screen' upon which others assign certain attributes and traits he may or may not possess, but I think he was making an observation--an accurate one--not evincing sociopathic tendencies by making that statement. So yeah, Reed's analogy may be somewhat on-the-mark but I think it opens up a lot of room for confusion. Reed isn't saying Obama is a sociopath. He's making an analogy, saying Obama is like a sociopath, which is confusing and weird since someone like a sociopath is a sociopath but not in the clinical sense. Or something.

Personally, I think President Obama is a committed, hard-Left ideologue who has carefully (and largely successfully) hidden his Marxist core convictions for decades now--which makes him smarter than men like Frank or Reed, whose out-loud-and-proud approach to Leftist ideals would've made Obama unelectable in 2008.

Posted by: troyriser at March 11, 2014 08:46 AM (O66NZ)

65 obama being a benevolent king is not good enough. The Left is unhappy because obama is not a dictator.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 11, 2014 08:46 AM (BAqy2)

66 He did shed tears when the results came in on election night 2008. As did I.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 11, 2014 08:46 AM (7ObY1)

67 >>As a sociopath (functional, no bodies in the basement)...

Actually, there are a number of bodies in hist past that may or may not be a coincidence, such as the supposed three former lovers from Rev. Wrights church.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 11, 2014 08:46 AM (aq/zi)

68 I demand rspect.

Posted by: Barakakan I at March 11, 2014 08:46 AM (Aif/5)

69 46 Worse than a Sociopath. Teh JEF is a Malignant Narcissist who is both Bitchy and Bossy..... and stupid too Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 11, 2014 12:43 PM (32Ze2) Where did the idea that he possesses some super intellect come from?

Posted by: BignJames at March 11, 2014 08:46 AM (HtUkt)

70 As a sociopath (functional, no bodies in the basement that I know of) I know what they look like. Posted by: tangonine at March 11, 2014 12:43 PM (x3YFz)

FIFY.

Because caring giver.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 11, 2014 08:47 AM (JpC1K)

71 Oh and don't freak out. I'm a limited sociopath. It just takes a *lot* for me to feel emotions.

Posted by: tangonine at March 11, 2014 08:47 AM (x3YFz)

72 >>>So he's ticked off that leftist academics are exploiting the identity politics espoused in leftist academia (race, class, gender)? It is strange, because those "critique" studies are all of course... MARXIST critiques. I suppose he's trying to make the point that the Democrats aren't actually pursuing a real Marxist solution, but instead are just getting votes from minorities while keeping the bulk of the American system in operation.

Posted by: ace at March 11, 2014 08:47 AM (/FnUH)

37 -

Again, I think he's spot on. You have a bunch of people who have bought into the notion that the party cares about the little guy, without it ever actually doing a damn thing for all those collective little guys.

I've heard elsewhere that it's a bit of a shell game they play. As in, my identity group thinks all those other identity groups out there are getting theirs, and my turn is next. When of course, all of them are sitting around waiting for their turn, the elites of the party soak it up.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 11, 2014 08:47 AM (TOk1P)

Nevergiveup:

Was there any concerted effort in the Senate to at least vet this candidate??

Not the hill to fight on. Because elections. Because media is mean. Because dams.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 11, 2014 08:47 AM (tVTLU)

75 You know, I think it would be vitally important for Frank, et al. to support Bernie Sanders if he decides to challenge Hillary from the left. I think that would have a salutary effect. Even better if BS (heh heh heh) decides to run on a Socialist ticket in the general.

Posted by: joncelli at March 11, 2014 08:47 AM (RD7QR)

76 A sociopath would consider their offspring as an extension of themselves.

Posted by: eleven at March 11, 2014 08:48 AM (fsLdt)

77 As a sociopath (functional, no bodies in the basement that I know of) I know what they look like. Posted by: tangonine at March 11, 2014 12:43 PM (x3YFz) FIFY. Because caring giver. Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 11, 2014 12:47 PM (JpC1K) You'll kindly note the lack of reference to holes in the desert.

Posted by: tangonine at March 11, 2014 08:48 AM (x3YFz)

78 More like a psychopath...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at March 11, 2014 08:48 AM (9+ccr)

79 Where did the idea that he possesses some super intellect come from? Posted by: BignJames at March 11, 2014 12:46 PM (HtUkt)

From the fact that libs believe that anyone who thinks like they do must, by definition, be a soooooooper genius.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 11, 2014 08:48 AM (JpC1K)

80 "The problem with a notion of equality or social justice that's rooted in the perspectives of multiculturalism and diversity is that from those perspectives you can have a society that's perfectly just if less than 1 percent of the population controls 95 percent of the stuff, so long as that one percent is half women and 12 percent black, and 12 percent Latino and whatever the appropriate numbers are gay." They are Mathing us to death.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 11, 2014 08:48 AM (0HooB)

81 12 I've heard this argument before....the Dems coalition is so fragile it will implode. I don't know about that. As long as each faction gets its share of the handouts, the coalition can last a long time. Illegals and blacks don't like each other. But they are close to 100% loyal to Democrats because they both get a lot of stuff from Democrats. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 11, 2014 12:35 PM (0LHZx) ---------------------------- Yes, in the short term the coalition will hold. In the long-term, however, it is doomed --- as ALL coalitions must be. As the money runs out, competition and hostility will increase. As their power increases and the Hated Ones are successfully destroyed or marginalized, out-fighting will morph into in-fighting. This could take the form of racial/ethnic competition or, as in non-diverse countries today, of class/ideological/religious conflict.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 11, 2014 08:48 AM (dfYL9)

82 If you write an autobiography at the beginning of your career, you may be a sociopath!

Posted by: fluffy at March 11, 2014 08:49 AM (Ua6T/)

83 Obama thinks he's Boss, but he's really just bossy. #youarenotthebossofme

Posted by: jakeman at March 11, 2014 08:49 AM (vH4YP)

84 4 Serious question: Other than anger, have you ever seen Obama portray a genuine emotion? For a guy who cares so much about the oppressed, have you ever seen him be genuinely sad? Posted by: AmishDude at March 11, 2014 12:33 PM (T0NGe) Seriously, this is what just boggles my mind. The only election matrix that Obama beat Romney on was "Cares about people like me". The only one. Economy, foreign policy, spending, governing...Romney won them all, except for "caring". Aside from how personally creepy I find it to believe that having a politician "care" about you is desirable (or even believable, nobody you don't know cares about you. Deal with it), in his particular case, what on earth has Obama ever done to make him seem compassionate? I can't think of a single thing, but people believe it. Hell, I even had a knock down drag out with a close family member that almost ended our relationship over this very issue. It's just bizarre.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 11, 2014 08:49 AM (N/cFh)

Heh,, whatever,,

Obama: old and busted

Me: Hawt wonderfulness

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 11, 2014 08:49 AM (GjPnA)

86 He's in his second term, and will never run for elective office again.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 11, 2014 12:41 PM (aq/zi)

--------------------------------------------

I am not going to bet any money on that. Three years to go. Just think of what he could do in that time.

Ever wonder why he's doing so much fundraising?

Posted by: Soona at March 11, 2014 08:49 AM (Js/gY)

Yes Ace, the only place on the left for dems to go is Marx.

In the coldest winter in memory these fucking idiots are staying up all night to talk about global warming.

We get the government we deserve.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 11, 2014 08:49 AM (tVTLU)

88 Obama the Cipher. But who amongst us wingnuts has the temerity to crack this mysterious code?

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2014 08:49 AM (PnMCP)

89 76 A sociopath would consider their offspring as an extension of themselves. Posted by: eleven at March 11, 2014 12:48 PM (fsLdt) Well, shoot. My offspring is an idiot. Dammit.

Posted by: tangonine at March 11, 2014 08:49 AM (x3YFz)

90 You'll kindly note the lack of reference to holes in the desert. Posted by: tangonine at March 11, 2014 12:48 PM (x3YFz)

*checks six.*

*checks ammo supply*

*checks trip wires*

Duly noted.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 11, 2014 08:49 AM (JpC1K)

91 Psycho Killer Qu'est-ce que c'est fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa better Run run run run run run run away

Posted by: Citizen X at March 11, 2014 08:49 AM (7ObY1)

Kinda feel bad for these white progressives. They have realized after 5 years that the Democratic Party stands for nothing but winning elections through cultural division, and then dividing the spoils of government among their favored coalition groups who raise the big money for those elections.

It's all a big scam.

Posted by: rockmom at March 11, 2014 08:50 AM (aBlZ1)

93 Obama doesn't strike me as intelligent enough to be a sociopath.

Posted by: Elephant in the Room at March 11, 2014 08:50 AM (Ggh94)

94 Obama is a great con man. Being sociopathic is a prerequisite.

And I'm not just trying to slam him. I'm serious. The guy is the greatest con man in world history.

Posted by: forest at March 11, 2014 08:50 AM (stMuz)

95 I hate to break it to ya'll but Obama is NEVER going away.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 11, 2014 08:50 AM (slXFW)

96 out-fighting will morph into in-fighting. This could take the form of racial/ethnic competition or, as in non-diverse countries today, of class/ideological/religious conflict.

***

It's like Jimmie Walker's joke about Northern Ireland: "In a country without blacks, Jews, or Mexicans, people will improvise."

Posted by: cool arrow at March 11, 2014 08:50 AM (Dqdyh)

97 Ace, His political views aside, do you think that there is something "off" about Obama's mental state or is he just a normal narcissistic politician?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2014 08:50 AM (XyM/Y)

98 If you believe that the ocean's level is tied to your election returns, you might be a psychopath.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 11, 2014 08:51 AM (7ObY1)

99 I suppose he's trying to make the point that the Democrats aren't actually pursuing a real Marxist solution, but instead are just getting votes from minorities while keeping the bulk of the American system in operation.

Posted by: ace at March 11, 2014 12:47 PM (/FnUH)

Ah, gotcha. So he's just waking up to the fact that politicians are in it for themselves, not for "the little guy."

Welcome to the party, pal! We on the right knew this from the year dot!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 11, 2014 08:51 AM (4df7R)

100 He's a Grifter. Â…..couldn't even write his own books or Harvard Law Review pieces for chrissakes. He didn't even design or implement Obamacide right. PhoneyBoloneyMarxopath and Putin can't stop laughin'

Posted by: ontherocks at March 11, 2014 08:51 AM (dYBqc)

101

I hate to break it to ya'll but Obama is NEVER going away.

Nope .....he really was the one they were waiting for.

Posted by: eleven at March 11, 2014 08:52 AM (fsLdt)

102 I have met and dealt with a genuine lunatic on that order, a real life crazy person, a sociopath. He literally had a point at which he could go no further in terms of comprehension of reality and emotional response.
He was very creepy and disturbing to me, and I saw him pretty quickly for what he was, but he charmed a lot of people and they thought he was very intelligent, visionary, and wonderful. His "leadership" tore our church apart with a brutal, hateful split.
Eventually he ended up in literally a bomb shelter hiding on January 1, 2000 (Y2K stuff) and the last I heard he isn't even a pastor anywhere. People eventually caught on but the damage in his wake was epic.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2014 08:52 AM (zfY+H)

103 Yes, in the short term the coalition will hold. In the long-term, however, it is doomed --- as ALL coalitions must be. As the money runs out, competition and hostility will increase. As their power increases and the Hated Ones are successfully destroyed or marginalized, out-fighting will morph into in-fighting. This could take the form of racial/ethnic competition or, as in non-diverse countries today, of class/ideological/religious conflict. Faster please.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2014 08:52 AM (E7Zh9)

104 It is strange, because those "critique" studies are all of course... MARXIST critiques. I suppose he's trying to make the point that the Democrats aren't actually pursuing a real Marxist solution, but instead are just getting votes from minorities while keeping the bulk of the American system in operation. Posted by: ace at March 11, 2014 12:47 PM (/FnUH) Winner winner chicken dinner!

I know someone who is a hard core Leftist, verging right on if not toppling over into Communist and she hates the Democrats with the power of 10,000 burning suns because all the Democrats do is lie about redistribution and then use that to line their own pockets. I can't say I disagree.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 08:52 AM (VtjlW)

105 If you believe that the ocean's level is tied to your election returns, you might be a psychopath.

***

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't TFG say that when he got the nomination?

Posted by: cool arrow at March 11, 2014 08:53 AM (Dqdyh)

106 Obama: old and busted

Me: ~~Hawt wonderfulness~~ Bossy harridan

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 11, 2014 12:49 PM (GjPnA)

FIFY, Cankles.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 11, 2014 08:53 AM (4df7R)

107 O/T Clicked on the Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle in the sidebar.

Posted on March 11, 2004. Read some of the adjoining posts.

Boy. We thought there were problems then. If we only knew.

SMFH

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 11, 2014 08:53 AM (vVOWk)

108 Where did the idea that he possesses some super intellect come from? My guess is that he stole it from Hillary! The Smartest Woman in the History of Teh World! As we've seen, neither one of them is very bright.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 11, 2014 08:53 AM (0HooB)

109

Ace, did you read Zombie's article on the racism of the left?

http://tinyurl.com/nrhtzwa

Posted by: maddogg at March 11, 2014 08:53 AM (xWW96)

110

It's like Jimmie Walker's joke about Northern Ireland: "In a country without blacks, Jews, or Mexicans, people will improvise."

Hah....that's brilliant. Didn't know Jimmy had it in him.

Posted by: eleven at March 11, 2014 08:53 AM (fsLdt)

111

"Teh JEF is a Malignant Narcissist who is both Bitchy and Bossy..... and stupid too"

This seems to be honing it down pretty well. But I don't think he's stupid. He's simply so narcissistic and has been so kowtowed to and enabled all his life, that he is totally convinced that he's smarter than everyone else. Not one iota of humility or everyman perspective.

Posted by: RM at March 11, 2014 08:53 AM (fRppw)

112 As their power increases and the Hated Ones are successfully destroyed or marginalized, out-fighting will morph into in-fighting. This could take the form of racial/ethnic competition or, as in non-diverse countries today, of class/ideological/religious conflict. Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2014 12:52 PM (E7Zh9)

*ahem*

Credit please.

Posted by: Freidrich Hayek [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 11, 2014 08:54 AM (JpC1K)

113 6 4 Serious question: Other than anger, have you ever seen Obama portray a genuine emotion? _________ Good point. Even on election night, it seemed like he was angry. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 11, 2014 12:33 PM (0LHZx) Narcissists are always angry when someone disagrees with them. Any votes against him piss him off.

Posted by: baldilocks filipova at March 11, 2014 08:54 AM (36Rjy)

114 If you believe that the ocean's level is tied to your GETTING THE NOMINATION, you might be a sociopath.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 11, 2014 08:54 AM (7ObY1)

115 I hate to break it to ya'll but Obama is NEVER going away. Nope .....he really was the one they were waiting for. JFK was the one they were waiting for. He went away.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2014 08:54 AM (E7Zh9)

116 One of the best advice I ever read about political candidates, years ago, is: "Just because your on his side, doesn't mean he's on yours." Ironically, that was written by a die-hard lefty lib about "dumb hicks voting for W." Pretty sure they are still voting straight Dem now.

Posted by: votermom at March 11, 2014 08:55 AM (GSIDW)

117 Just gained a measure of regard for the seemingly frou-frou deli we're going to this afternoon. Perusing the menu, their Cuban Pannini, stuffed with pork, is called The Infidel.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 11, 2014 08:55 AM (ZshNr)

118 Netanyahu expresses 'regret' at death of Jordanian judge PMO says in statement a joint Israeli-Jordanian team will investigate shooting at Allenby bridge, where the IDF says Raed Zeiter attacked soldiers. The IDF said Judge Raed Zeiter was shot dead on Monday after attacking a soldier at the terminal, suffocating him and trying to snatch his weapons. An army investigation found Zeiter ignored calls to stop, and continued attacking soldiers at the scene with an iron rod even after he was shot in his leg. Why regret? The guy was either a terrorist, insane, or a jooo hater, or all 3. Fuck him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 11, 2014 08:55 AM (t3UFN)

119 I suppose he's trying to make the point that the Democrats aren't actually pursuing a real Marxist solution, but instead are just getting votes from minorities while keeping the bulk of the American system in operation.

Posted by: ace at March 11, 2014 12:47 PM (/FnUH)

Of course they won't. America so far, hasn't accepted it (a real Marxist solution). Aside from the facts that it will fail predictably, having theoretically achieved that goal, what other solutions could they push to cure the grievances of the chattering classes? Upping the chocolate ration?

Once they lose their ability to promise solutions to the various grievances of those identity groups, the gig is up. They will no longer have any appeal. Here, it *was* pot legalization. Now it is minimum wage increases. Gotta keep those lemmings coming back to the polls/trough for some more socialism.

Posted by: flounder at March 11, 2014 08:56 AM (Kkt/i)

120 Okay...I see I missed a bossy thread.

Posted by: eleven at March 11, 2014 08:56 AM (fsLdt)

121 "Ever wonder why he's doing so much fundraising?"
Its one of the few things he really knows how to do and likes to do. It surrounds him with adulation and has an immediate, tangible measure of success, so it feeds his ego.
Obama is not going to suspend the constitution or stay in office. He can have everything he ever wanted without the responsibility of being president. In fact, not being president will sanctify him into a saint of heroic proportions, a misunderstood genius, a towering presidential intellect who was so far above people that they couldn't catch up to him.
He'll be the go-to guy on every presidential issue and his proclamations held up as a glorious voice of God. He'll get all the parties and all the fun, and will still get to do fundraisers, but won't have anyone interrupting him eating his waffles.
Why would he want to be president when he gets all the bennies with none of the work?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2014 08:56 AM (zfY+H)

122 If oppression conferred heightened political consciousness there would be a People's Republic of Mississippi ---- ---- Ah... So much stupid to unpack in one short sentence. Just the history of people's republics in the actual world, here earth, is its own topic.

Posted by: Beagle at March 11, 2014 08:57 AM (sOtz/)

123 I know someone who is a hard core Leftist, verging right on if not toppling over into Communist and she hates the Democrats with the power of 10,000 burning suns because all the Democrats do is lie about redistribution and then use that to line their own pockets. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. ~~Blondies~~ Blondes with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 12:52 PM (VtjlW)

You may want to remind her that when the burning times come, her kind will be the first up in front of the firing squads.

Of course, since libs don't read history you'll probably just get a blank look.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 11, 2014 08:57 AM (JpC1K)

124 The last President we had that wasn't a narcissist was probably Washington.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 11, 2014 08:57 AM (+lsX1)

125 Speaking of sociopaths. Nanzi is using the Hairy Reid "Just Make Up Ridiculous Shit and the MFM Will Cover Me" playbook: Nancy Pelosi: A Republican friend of mine told me that his party is Â“indifferentÂ” to Â“really hungry children,Â” you know.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 11, 2014 08:57 AM (7ObY1)

126 I hate to break it to ya'll but Obama is NEVER going away.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 11, 2014 12:50 PM (slXFW)

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Yup. He's going to be a rusty spike jammed into America's ass for a loooong long time.

Posted by: Soona at March 11, 2014 08:57 AM (Js/gY)

127 That's a lot of words to describe the JEF as a failure. They mention the "middle class" ever so slightly. They are feeling uncomfortable, for sure. A bit of fear. They're holding back.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 11, 2014 08:57 AM (IXrOn)

128 Sounds like the diseased mange rats that helped set the USS SCOAMF afloat for two terms are beginning to abandon ship.

Posted by: Heralder at March 11, 2014 08:58 AM (/Mxso)

129 JFK was the one they were waiting for. He went away.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2014 12:54 PM (E7Zh9)

And he was assassinated by a rightwing extremist whacko, AND DON'T YOU DARE TRY AND SAY OTHERWISE! COMMIES ARE ANGELS!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 11, 2014 08:58 AM (4df7R)

130 Bush didn't seem narcississiissstic at all to me.

Posted by: eleven at March 11, 2014 08:58 AM (fsLdt)

131 Enough of this pseudo-psycho analysis of politicians. We need more pop culture posts !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 11, 2014 08:58 AM (sxVOw)

132 I don't think Obama is a sociopath. I believe he has zero empathy or compassion for others, which I can understand because I struggle with the same. I chalk it up to being part of my selfish only-childism. Or maybe I'm a sociopath, who the fuck knows.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 11, 2014 08:59 AM (euACX)

133 93 Obama doesn't strike me as intelligent enough to be a sociopath. Posted by: Elephant in the Room at March 11, 2014 12:50 PM (Ggh94) In all honesty, I have to agree. Having seen him in action... ok, let's get some perspective: I've met some scary smart dudes and dudettes. Most of them gravitate toward CEO-type jobs, or, in the old days, Flag officers (not so much these days). The smartest person I ever met, like 200 IQ guy, was a pot smoking hippie who didn't bother to finish his BS in physics. Dude was so smart he scared the shit out of me, but he was my lab partner and never showed for the final (2 man team) and I had to go it alone. I'll kick his ass if I ever see him again. Obama? Hah. I teach smart people. I work with Boeing scientists that shower once a month whether they need it or not. I've seen the full spectrum of problem solvers and people that get shit done. Obama? Communications major.

Posted by: tangonine at March 11, 2014 08:59 AM (x3YFz)

134 "Where did the idea that he possesses some super intellect come from?"
1) He's a Democrat, and thus must be a super genius, since he holds all the right positions.
2) He's fairly articulate and well spoken, which is the proof of intelligence to the left
3) He went to an ivy league college, so he must be super intelligent.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2014 08:59 AM (zfY+H)

135
I don't cotton much to all the psychobabble about me. There's two words to describe why I have been such a successful manipulator: Free. Shit.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at March 11, 2014 08:59 AM (Dwehj)

136 Sounds like the diseased mange rats that helped set the USSSCOAMF afloat for two terms are beginning to abandon ship.

Posted by: Heralder at March 11, 2014 12:58 PM (/Mxso)

Too little too late, the worthless bastards.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 11, 2014 08:59 AM (4df7R)

137

Enough of this pseudo-psycho analysis of politicians. We need more pop culture posts !!!

You are not the boss of us.

Posted by: eleven at March 11, 2014 09:00 AM (fsLdt)

138 125 Speaking of sociopaths. Nanzi is using the Hairy Reid "Just Make Up Ridiculous Shit and the MFM Will Cover Me" playbook: Nancy Pelosi: A Republican friend of mine told me that his party is Â“indifferentÂ” to Â“really hungry children,Â” you know. ---------- No I really said that.

Posted by: John McCain at March 11, 2014 09:00 AM (Aif/5)

139 "The problem with a notion of equality or social justice that's rooted in the perspectives of multiculturalism and diversity is that from th... Well, I stuck with it for 140 characters, I wonder what's on TV...?

Posted by: LIVs at March 11, 2014 09:00 AM (FcR7P)

140 53 Reed's point is that Obama and the Democrats are focusing on identity (race, class, sexuality) politics instead of class warfare/economic status politics. Posted by: ace at March 11, 2014 12:40 PM (/FnUH) So he's ticked off that leftist academics are exploiting the identity politics espoused in leftist academia (race, class, gender)? Does he understand words? Strategy vs. tactics, babe. Identity politics is a tactic, class war is the strategy. He's complaining that they've lost sight if the strategy fir the success of the tactic.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 11, 2014 09:00 AM (1xUj/)

141 92 Kinda feel bad for these white progressives. They have realized after 5 years that the Democratic Party stands for nothing but winning elections through cultural division, and then dividing the spoils of government among their favored coalition groups who raise the big money for those elections.

It's all a big scam.

Posted by: rockmom at March 11, 2014 12:50 PM (aBlZ1)

Do you have a bumper sticker version the LIVs can understand?

Posted by: flounder at March 11, 2014 09:00 AM (Kkt/i)

142 2) He's fairly articulate and well spoken, which is the proof of intelligence to the left
3) He went to an ivy league college, so he must be super intelligent.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2014 12:59 PM (zfY+H)

2 and 3 only apply if 1 is true.

Posted by: maddogg at March 11, 2014 09:00 AM (xWW96)

143 Why would he want to be president when he gets all the bennies with none of the work?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2014 12:56 PM (zfY+H)

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Your last sentence bothers me. Please provide evidence that he's working now.

Posted by: Soona at March 11, 2014 09:00 AM (Js/gY)

144 Spending a good portion of your life campaigning for various elected offices is the hallmark of a narcissist, or at least an asshole.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 11, 2014 09:01 AM (+lsX1)

145

He's not smart enough to be a sociopath.

A narcissist. Absolutely. Look at how big the O is in his signature...

Posted by: prescient11 at March 11, 2014 09:01 AM (tVTLU)

146 Bush didn't seem narcississiissstic at all to me. Posted by: eleven at March 11, 2014 12:58 PM (fsLdt)

I met him twice while he was in office. He was not a particularly warm guy. Very sarcastic at the expense of others.

Having said that, Obama makes him look like Jesus Christ.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 11, 2014 09:01 AM (JpC1K)

147 Obama?

Communications major.

Posted by: tangonine at March 11, 2014 12:59 PM (x3YFz)

HEY!

MWR <-- Communication Major

Obammy's an affirmative action Early Childhood Ed Major from a community college in Chicago.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 11, 2014 09:01 AM (4df7R)

148 Why would anyone outside of the Looney Left call for a single-payer system after this debacle? It's the government that fucked a lot of people out of health care, and ran up rates on those of us who can still afford insurance. And people think the cure for that crap is more government interference?

Posted by: Mike at March 11, 2014 09:01 AM (Rk8LS)

149 I saw Progressive White open for Deep Purple back in '81.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at March 11, 2014 09:01 AM (Dwehj)

150 "Bush didn't seem narcississiissstic at all to me."
Presidents Bush were oddities in politics. Neither one seemed driven by their ego or self importance, neither one seemed the usual towering arrogance that characterizes people who think they are so important they need to be in power. They are that super rare bird (rara avis, to swipe from knucklehead Christoper Buckley) who were in office to serve, rather than gratify their self-importance.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2014 09:02 AM (zfY+H)

151

", a misunderstood genius, a towering presidential intellect who was so far above people that they couldn't catch up to him."

Trust me on this one. In a few years when the chickens really come home to roost on Obamacare, and he's safely out of office, the spin will be that any problems are solely because the Republicans were obstructionist, and if they hadn't have been so partisan, all would be just fine. And even sadder, the LIVs and over half the country will swallow that line.

Posted by: RM at March 11, 2014 09:02 AM (fRppw)

152

I don't know that I'd describe the dog-eating crackhead as a sociopath.

Amoral, certainly. A callow, intellectually thin poseur. A strutting narcissist. But I think "amoral" fits him best.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 11, 2014 09:02 AM (zF6Iw)

153 Oh and don't freak out. I'm a limited sociopath. It just takes a *lot* for me to feel emotions.

Posted by: tangonine at March 11, 2014 12:47 PM (x3YFz)

Never heard of a limited sociopath before nor have I ever heard of one freely admitting they are one. I'm thinking you diagnosed yourself because you're bothered that you don't feel as much emotion as you think you should. I can't imagine a mental health professional--especially a practicing psychiatrist--diagnosing someone as a 'limited sociopath'.

I've experienced a certain amount of violence and death in my life, as many have. It bothered me at the time that it didn't bother me at the time--or later, for that matter. My lack of emotional response bothered me so much that I saw a psychiatrist about it years later, as a civilian. My responses , according to the psychiatrist, were within the normal range. Some react more, some less than others to varied stimuli. Maybe you fall in that category, as well.

Posted by: troyriser at March 11, 2014 09:02 AM (O66NZ)

154 And he probably graduated because he sucked enough liberal professor dick that they had to give him a B. What has he published? What's his resume? What are his grades? Who will vouch for him? He's a zero.

Posted by: tangonine at March 11, 2014 09:02 AM (x3YFz)

155 More than anything, Obama strikes me as deeply insecure. The instant lapsing into sarcasm or tantrums when challenged, the pathological dependence on the teleprompter, his isolation away from his own Cabinet members, so he can remain in the company of star struck idol worshippers and devoted handlers. He's a scared little man, in way over his head.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 11, 2014 09:02 AM (ZshNr)

156 I hate to break it to ya'll but Obama is NEVER going away. Posted by: Dr Spank at March 11, 2014 12:50 PM (slXFW) ------------------- Yep. He's far worse than Carter as a president and he will be far worse as an ex-president. A constant attention grabber for sure.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 11, 2014 09:02 AM (dfYL9)

157
eww...look at that terrible picture of the bossy Feinstein on Drudge.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 11, 2014 09:04 AM (gorVZ)

158 I may not be much, but I'm all I ever think about.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at March 11, 2014 09:04 AM (Dwehj)

159 Should Mississippi copy China, Albania, Benin, Bulgaria, Congo, Kampuchea, Poland, or Romania, GDR... inquiring minds want to know. I'm sure there's a good one in there somewhere.

Posted by: Beagle at March 11, 2014 09:05 AM (sOtz/)

160 love this quote from the actual interview Well, thereÂ’s a lot of crap going on there, too. And IÂ’ll come clean. I voted for Nader in 2000 partly because I lived in Connecticut and it wasnÂ’t a big choice because I knew the Democrat was going to take the state anyway. But partly also because I had lived in Connecticut in the Â’80s and I had a track record to maintain of not ever voting for Joe Lieberman for anything.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 11, 2014 09:05 AM (IXrOn)

161

Well Margarita, when he goes away he can pal around with Colin Powell, his ardent supporter and I believe a potential candidate that the GOPe wanted to push/support for even higher office.

The more I think about it, the more I start to question, just who in the fuck are we voting for and why GOP???????!!!!!!!!!!

Softer statism?? awesome. I am more and more of a mind that if the conservatives do not purge and take over the party completely, then I'm gone and it's third party time. And shut up libertarians, Ayn Rand day is never going to happen.

At least I can look my progeny in the eye.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 11, 2014 09:06 AM (tVTLU)

162 Grouse? Does that come with fries?

Posted by: Champeen Bridge-Lane Closer (Heavyweight Division) at March 11, 2014 09:06 AM (8GKDa)

163 Presidents Bush were oddities in politics. Neither one seemed driven by their ego or self importance, neither one seemed the usual towering arrogance that characterizes people who think they are so important they need to be in power. They are that super rare bird (rara avis, to swipe from knucklehead Christoper Buckley) who were in office to serve, rather than gratify their self-importance.

It wasn't towering arrogance, it was towering benevolence? They graced us with their leadership because of their generosity? Jesus, there's a kool-aid drinker in every bunch.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 11, 2014 09:07 AM (+lsX1)

164 Too little too late, the worthless bastards.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 11, 2014 12:59 PM (4df7R)

It's ok to jump ship now. The litany of failures that are so numerous that they can non longer be concealed (or can now be safely revealed now that the election is over) make an easy excuse for them to distance themselves. Of course, as the failures racked up during the last six years, I'll wager these same two traitors were voting Obama and demonizing anyone who didn't.

In short, there's no longer a price to pay for telling the truth and saying the guy is an abject failure.

Posted by: Heralder at March 11, 2014 09:07 AM (/Mxso)

165 Perusing Salon for anything valuable is like dumpster diving for a snack.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 11, 2014 09:07 AM (R5UOB)

166 This is, ultimately, what destroyed the Republicans, and its what I warned about President Bush doing under the Rove Doctrine. The entire job of congress was focused around getting more Republicans into office, and all they did was eventually enrage the public into throwing them out.
The Democrats are doing the same thing, but it will take longer for the backlash to hit them for several reasons, as I see it:
1) They've so successfully demonized the GOP that people still think them an even worse choice.
2) They didn't get involved in a war that the media and entertainment community succeeded in turning unpopular.
3) Their followers are less informed, analytical, and more dependent on government.
There's a number 4 as well: Democrats cheat so hard, so blatantly, and so consistently that they can hang onto power as long as they get that vote within 3% or so - the margin of fraud - so it would take a huge margin to defeat them.
In the end, though, it doesn't matter. We had our last, desperate, long shot at turning things around in 2012 and that didn't happen.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2014 09:07 AM (zfY+H)

167 Yep. He's far worse than Carter as a president and he will be far worse as an ex-president. A constant attention grabber for sure. Meh. I can live with that. I can ignore him. Just like Jimmy Who?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2014 09:07 AM (E7Zh9)

168 Enough of the president sh*t, I want to talk about True Detective.

Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Decade at March 11, 2014 09:08 AM (hHFOx)

169 North Korea of course. That's a hell of a democratic people's republic there.

Posted by: Beagle at March 11, 2014 09:08 AM (sOtz/)

170 Hey, Moe! Look at the Grouse!

Posted by: Curly Howard at March 11, 2014 09:08 AM (Dwehj)

171 But partly also because I had lived in Connecticut in the Â’80s and I had a track record to maintain of not ever voting for Joe Lieberman for anything.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 11, 2014 01:05 PM (IXrOn)[/.i]

Can we call him an anti-Semite, just for kicks? I mean, the guy's named Adolph and he didn't vote for Lieberman. Come on!

Who cares if it's true or not. It's not like the left ever bothers with things like truth.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 11, 2014 09:08 AM (4df7R)

172 I work with Boeing scientists that shower once a month whether they need it or not.

Dunno know what it is about aerospace that brings out the characters.

Posted by: HR at March 11, 2014 09:09 AM (ZKzrr)

173 Not to change the subject but someone should notify Ace...

Ewok sex dungeon discovered in abandoned house

http://bit.ly/1cRnECW

Posted by: Emperor Norton II at March 11, 2014 09:10 AM (MlqTY)

174
In short, there's no longer a price to pay for telling the truth and saying the guy is an abject failure

Better than that, it makes them look reasonable and objective on their way to the next anointing.

Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Decade at March 11, 2014 09:10 AM (hHFOx)

175 There's nothing about being a sociopath that must include intelligence. There can be completely idiotic sociopaths, you just don't write about them or feature them as cool bad guys in TV shows.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2014 09:10 AM (zfY+H)

176 This would make sense why Big Labor, a pretty big dem donor, has been pushed down the coalition board.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 11, 2014 09:10 AM (WdbF7)

177 Meh. I can live with that. I can ignore him. Just like Jimmy Who? Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2014 01:07 PM (E7Zh9)

I think there is one thing of which we can all be assured of an Obama post-presidency. He will not be working with Habitat For Humanity.

That would require the ability to operate a hammer.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 11, 2014 09:10 AM (6T8Ay)

178 Sorry, but the fatal flaw if all politicians is egomania. That includes bith Bushes and Reagan. You don't get into politics without being self-serving, no matter what comes out of your mouth.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 11, 2014 09:10 AM (euACX)

179 Ewok sex dungeon

I'm not clicking on that.

Until I get home.

Posted by: HR at March 11, 2014 09:11 AM (ZKzrr)

180 Nood

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 11, 2014 09:12 AM (6T8Ay)

181 Big Labor, at least private unions, does not bring enough to the table any longer. They're too small and too weak to be influential these days, so they are expendable to the coalition, or at least of minor importance, like Asian Democrats.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2014 09:12 AM (zfY+H)

182 IÂ’m very optimistic about the power of minorities to change the dialogue in this country

You mean like the minority party in Congress? Oh no, wait... that's a minority that deserves disdain. Have I got that right?

Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Decade at March 11, 2014 09:12 AM (hHFOx)

183 Ugh, fingers and keyboard not in synch.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 11, 2014 09:12 AM (euACX)

184 Corgi, corgi, corgi, keep those corgis tumbling, new post!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 09:12 AM (VtjlW)

185 North Korea of course. That's a hell of a democratic people's republic there.

100% turnout, 100% of voters say "Aye." Try beating that for citizen satisfaction, bitchez!!!!!

Posted by: Kim Jong Un at March 11, 2014 09:13 AM (8ZskC)

186 I have no idea what his sociological makeup is other than he really despises the history and traditions of this country and wishes it to be knocked down in the world.

Of that I have no doubt.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 11, 2014 09:13 AM (gorVZ)

187 Better than that, it makes them look reasonable and objective on their way to the next anointing.

Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Decade at March 11, 2014 01:10 PM (hHFOx)

Exactly. Two opportunistic cowards.

Posted by: Heralder at March 11, 2014 09:13 AM (/Mxso)

188 >>Ever wonder why he's doing so much fundraising?

Because that's the only thing he's good at? Adoring, wealthy fellow-travelers, swanky venues, getting out of DC (and maybe away from Michelle).
What's not to like?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 11, 2014 09:13 AM (aq/zi)

189 The only thing obama out of office will do is the same thing he did in office: fund raise. That is all he ever did or will do useless rotten bastard

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 11, 2014 09:14 AM (t3UFN)

190 >>Grouse? Does that come with fries?<<<

Heathen.

Similarly, if you are serving your grouse with all the trimmingsÂ—game chips, bread sauce, flavorsome gravy and redcurrant jellyÂ—then you need a full-bodied red to stand up to the barrage of flavors. I would opt from something peppery from the northern RhÃ´ne from somewhere such as CÃ´te RÃ´tie, Cornas or Hermitage. Thierry Allemand, Chapoutier and Clape are all worth looking out for.

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2014 09:15 AM (PnMCP)

191 unfortunate url-> ewok_furry_sex_costumes_discovered_in_abandoned_ho.php

That poor woman.

Posted by: irright at March 11, 2014 09:16 AM (8GKDa)

192 Some react more, some less than others to varied stimuli. Maybe you fall in that category, as well.

Posted by: troyriser at March 11, 2014 01:02 PM (O66NZ)

In find that common to those with a military service background. I like to think of it as having a perspective that most in the world do not share.

Posted by: flounder at March 11, 2014 09:16 AM (Kkt/i)

193 Dunno know what it is about aerospace that brings out the characters. I've had one relative and known the spouse of someone else in aerospace. One was diagnosed on the autism spectrum late, one was too old to have that done, but exhibited every single trait-brilliant but clearly (to me) had what used to be called Asbergers including the lack of personal hygiene and problems with social intercation.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2014 09:17 AM (XyM/Y)

194 142 2) He's fairly articulate and well spoken, which is the proof of intelligence to the left 3) He went to an ivy league college, so he must be super intelligent.Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2014 12:59 PM (zfY+H)2 and 3 only apply if 1 is true. Posted by: maddogg at March 11, 2014 01:00 PM (xWW96) He's not articulate, Biden's stupid comments notwithstanding. The Left *thinks* he's articulate because they believe that most blacks are genetically unable to master standard English. They think we are all Jesse Jackson.

Posted by: baldilocks filipova at March 11, 2014 09:17 AM (36Rjy)

195 I missed the bossy thread?? Stupid work. I wanted to call AtC Bossy Boots.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 11, 2014 09:18 AM (sjdRT)

196 154 And he probably graduated because he sucked enough liberal professor dick that they had to give him a B. What has he published? What's his resume? What are his grades? Who will vouch for him? He's a zero. Posted by: tangonine at March 11, 2014 01:02 PM (x3YFz) See my comment about this a couple of threads back.

Posted by: baldilocks filipova at March 11, 2014 09:20 AM (36Rjy)

197 I agree baldilocks, he's no more articulate than an average person. But he's an accomplished sophist. He's good at delivering impressive sounding, but ultimately empty and meaningless, speeches. And for the quasi-intellectual and the undiscerning, that seems brilliant.
Most leftists think Jesse Jackson is articulate too, though. Apparently they think Mushmouth from The Cosby Kids is the template for black communication.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2014 09:21 AM (zfY+H)

198 I have a friend-one of the few conservatives I've ever known who worked in theatre. He insists that Obama is thought of as being particularly deep and intelligent because he has a mellifluous speaking voice and that having such a voice automatically makes people pay attention. I don't think Obama is stupid but I think my friend is correct.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2014 09:22 AM (XyM/Y)

199 So the inside the media journolisters are trying to float the idea that you don't have to vote democrat? Apparently the modern GOP is sufficiently 'democrat' that you can for for them now? because the real democrats aren't democrat enough? Is that what this salon soiree was all about?

Posted by: Thorson Tedson at March 11, 2014 09:24 AM (Wt9Uh)

200 I don't think Obama is stupid but I think my friend is correct. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2014 01:22 PM (XyM/Y) Well also remember what slow joe said about him: he looks clean

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 11, 2014 09:26 AM (t3UFN)

201 These sound like two White Union guys that have figured out they are actually in the middle of a mob out in the street with torches and pitchforks burning down the first random White guy's house. Just last week I met a couple of retired federal workers living on a good pension who told me that the Republicans were destroying the Middle Class. Seems, according to one of them, that suddenly neither of their incomes are keeping up with expenses under Obama and it is the Republicans' fault for blocking full-on Socialism. No really. That's what they think. They are not Democrats they are Progressives. If President Obama had the IRS pass a regulation that minorities got a pass on OCare penalties because Justice while these retired Whites paid extra these idiots would blame Old White Republicans. Ditto if we became full on Socialist and their properties were seized and given away. It would never, ever, ever, ever enter their minds that "All men are created equal" was written to treat everyone equally under the law regardless of color, religion or socioeconomic status. They have "evolved" past the Constitution and BoRs. They are writing their own Progressive Constitution that is a living breathing document embodied in their LightWorkerÂ™.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 11, 2014 09:27 AM (gvKwE)

202 You know who wasn't a sociopath? I'll tell you who wasn't: Joe Stalin, that's who. He was awesomeness personified.

Posted by: Adolph Reed Jr. at March 11, 2014 09:44 AM (LISuA)

203 4?
AD?

The Anchoress nailed it long ago- "he's a construct."

Nothing genuine about Duh!1....

Posted by: backhoe at March 11, 2014 09:48 AM (ULH4o)

204 Sorry, but the fatal flaw if all politicians is egomania. That includes bith Bushes and Reagan. You don't get into politics without being self-serving, no matter what comes out of your mouth. Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod This is true. Some people can control their raging egotism enough to actually work with other people and have some sort of empathy towards people. Reagan and GHW Bush could do that. Clinton could fake it well. GW Bush sort of developed that, but as Sean Bannion said, was actually sort of a mean sarcastic guy with others. OBama and Hillary! have no real measure of empathy for others. This is the hallmark of the modern politician. This is what people will vote for, the faux emoticon politician who is a manipulative sociopath. This is Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. This is Mitch McConnell. And although people mock Boehner for a couple of times he teared up, he is not an emotional iceberg with others, not a full on sociopath. Schumer, McCain, Durbin, and a host of others have significant sociopathic tendencies. They have proven over the years that they really DON'T connect with other people. Arlen Specter was a clinical sociopath, as is Eric Holder.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at March 11, 2014 09:51 AM (RFeQD)

205 I have read this article in its entirety and can only say: (!), (?), (!!?), (????!!!!), (WTF, DUDE?!?!!) (Thanks for the assistance, Ace)

Posted by: alwyr at March 11, 2014 09:58 AM (V0j3u)

206

Ace

There is nothing more boring and tedious than one blogger analyzing the conversation of two other bloggers, unknown ones at that!, and doing play by play...

Boring!

Posted by: Yawn at March 11, 2014 10:03 AM (GBl2T)

207 Siiiggghhhh! Will the media vet this guy when he runs for a 3rd term?

Posted by: alwyr at March 11, 2014 10:07 AM (V0j3u)

208 Ace
There is nothing more boring and tedious than one blogger analyzing the conversation of two other bloggers, unknown ones at that!, and doing play by play...
Boring!

Posted by: Yawn at March 11, 2014 02:03 PM (GBl2T)

Frank isn't an unknown, and isn't known specifically as a blogger. He's actually a pretty big deal on the Left. It is interesting (to me anyway) when hardcore Leftists actually take public note of things about Obama many of us on the Right have known all along.

Posted by: troyriser at March 11, 2014 10:10 AM (O66NZ)

209 ...(and it does seem a bit overmuch)... Ace, I understand you don't want to over-hype the psychological dimension, but as a mere commenter, I'll take that plunge. According to the Hare Psychopathy Checklist commonly used to diagnose psychopathy, these are the pertinent factors ----- Facet 1: Interpersonal Glibness/superficial charm Grandiose sense of self-worth Pathological lying Cunning/manipulative ----- Facet 2: Affective Lack of remorse or guilt Emotionally shallow Callous/lack of empathy Failure to accept responsibility for own actions ----- Facet 3: Lifestyle Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom Parasitic lifestyle Lack of realistic, long-term goals Impulsivity Irresponsibility ----- Facet 4: Antisocial Poor behavioral controls Early behavioral problems Juvenile delinquency Revocation of conditional release Criminal versatility Many short-term marital relationships Promiscuous sexual behavior ----- He seems to posses all of the traits in facets 1-3 and most of those in 4. For that matter, most politicians are almost 100% on facets 1-3 (Clinton, McCain for instance). Psychologists recognize that a privileged upbringing can mask most of Facet 4.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 11, 2014 10:14 AM (7i0fA)

210 In fairness, I'd say that many of those who are recognized as having leadership qualities have some if not many of these personality traits. Remember the studies that correlate an aptitude for lying at a young age with higher status in adulthood.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 11, 2014 10:21 AM (7i0fA)

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