February 22, 2013
— Ace Super.
And don't think we're any better: The American public continues clinging to the Debtor's Delusion that we can forever spend more than we have.
These are shamanistic times. Everything is magic, isn't it? The reasoning man tells the public the obvious truth and the charlatan tells the public an obvious lie, but a pleasing one; of course the public prefers to believe in Magical Lies.
Won't last. Shan't. Shouldn't.
So Sick You Guys. Open Thread You Guys.
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Posted by: The Great Santini at February 22, 2013 03:28 PM (w+Dvf)
Posted by: Barack Obama at February 22, 2013 03:28 PM (wUFaM)
Posted by: ace at February 22, 2013 03:28 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 03:28 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 22, 2013 03:30 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Barack Obama at February 22, 2013 03:30 PM (wUFaM)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 22, 2013 03:30 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: EC at February 22, 2013 03:30 PM (doBIb)
I'm checking out to watch a nature program about lizards.
Doubtless narrated by Jeneanne Garofalo.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 03:31 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: BuddyPC at February 22, 2013 03:31 PM (jfUIE)
Posted by: General Zod at February 22, 2013 03:32 PM (2+bRt)
They're rested and ready to go. Having a day, I take it?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 22, 2013 03:32 PM (Gk3SS)
"I'm checking out to watch a nature program about lizards." Double check. Could be an old video of Anita Dunn you guys.
Posted by: Bosk at February 22, 2013 03:32 PM (n2K+4)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at February 22, 2013 03:33 PM (++kZl)
/Obamalogic
Posted by: RoadRunner at February 22, 2013 03:33 PM (jYTCn)
Coincidence? I think not.
Posted by: The Tudors at February 22, 2013 03:33 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: ace at February 22, 2013 03:33 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 22, 2013 03:34 PM (w+Dvf)
I posted
Breaking newsÂ….
Detroit just went totally Bankrupt fiscally Cali and NYC are falling into the oceansÂ….
Media reports GOP needs to live in realityÂ….
reality says “media go **** yourself.”
Harlekwin15 on February 22, 2013 at 7:24
Now why post that back over here?
The UK's problem is Detroit's problem is NYC's problem is Cali's problem is our fucking problem...
hey dumbfucks $ociali$m is a fucking fail boat
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 03:34 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Grey Fox Doesn't Live in a City at February 22, 2013 03:35 PM (c9rJ5)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 22, 2013 03:35 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: toby928© at February 22, 2013 03:36 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 03:36 PM (jE38p)
No, the lizards are hiding from infrared drones
Posted by: Sir David Attenborough at February 22, 2013 03:36 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Bosk at February 22, 2013 03:37 PM (n2K+4)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 22, 2013 03:37 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 22, 2013 03:37 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: ace at February 22, 2013 03:38 PM (LCRYB)
Gina ... less politics, more sucking
Posted by: kbdabear at February 22, 2013 03:38 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Clemenza at February 22, 2013 03:38 PM (x59Gv)
pretty much everywhere on Earth that has had a Durka stay at a Holiday Inn is "sacred Muslim land in waiting."
Our Jihadi Jims have cute porn queens and MS-13...so we're at least blessed with a more entertaining timebomb.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 03:38 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: The Mayor of Candor at February 22, 2013 03:38 PM (c4IBC)
Posted by: Emperor of Funemployment at February 22, 2013 03:38 PM (ZMzpb)
Posted by: Charles, Crown Prince of Feminine Hygiene Products at February 22, 2013 03:38 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Clemenza at February 22, 2013 03:39 PM (x59Gv)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 22, 2013 03:39 PM (GEICT)
Oh trust me Gerson knows sucking...like Bawney Fwank in a Viagra commercial...
"you guys"
I have to limit my presence at tepid but figured the usual squish suspects needed a kick in the nuts.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 03:40 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: ace at February 22, 2013 07:38 PM
I'm watching Ancient Aliens and YOU'RE complaining?
Posted by: kbdabear at February 22, 2013 03:40 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Javelina Bomb at February 22, 2013 03:41 PM (Wf+X1)
Shit. I just now found out that my Magic traded JJ Redick. They're only dressing eight guys to play tonight, which will be interesting since there's only seven healthy players.
WTF are they thinking? A lizard could make better decisions.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 03:42 PM (+z4pE)
There there. *pats back ala Dr. Sheldon Cooper, Ph.D.*
You know I'm laughing at you, right?
Mommy brought me a box of Thin Mint when we went out to dinner tonight. Just thought I'd mention that. You guys.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 22, 2013 03:43 PM (Gk3SS)
Queen of "Straight to Video" flicks lectures on reality
Got it
Posted by: kbdabear at February 22, 2013 03:43 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Leo Tard at February 22, 2013 03:43 PM (R18D0)
Posted by: Darth Randall at February 22, 2013 03:44 PM (mV8sg)
Posted by: derit's haberdashery policy at February 22, 2013 03:44 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: jmel at February 22, 2013 03:45 PM (9tSXa)
Posted by: Ernest Hemingway at February 22, 2013 03:45 PM (OZPoa)
SERIOUS YOU GUYS we can't cut 80 billion out of a $4,000 Billion budget! Holy shit planes are going to fall out of the sky and children will be murdered by cannibals and eaten because food stamps were taken away by the republicans! .... oh wait.. thats a real article.
we've gone from 'over the top' hyperbole by Obongo to some sick kind of misanthropic fear mongering for the fun of it.
Its beyond embarrassing. Serious. Just what the HELL is going on? This stuff is laughter inducing its so obviously over the top but I know some people are actually panicking that they'll lose their jobs. If anyone commits suicide from stress or whatever because of President hungers sick hyperbole, we should make commercials pointing out this outrage. Shame this imposter. We need to fight back at every turn
Posted by: Just the Facts at February 22, 2013 03:45 PM (4pEBT)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 22, 2013 03:46 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at February 22, 2013 03:46 PM (96hTc)
Posted by: Jennifer Tilly at February 22, 2013 03:46 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: Dang at February 22, 2013 03:47 PM (R18D0)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 22, 2013 03:47 PM (GEICT)
I am being criticized by a student for teaching Dante's Inferno and the fact that he placed sodomites in the eighth ring of Hell. I am trying to expose my students to a masterpiece of Western Literature and I am made to feel like a bigot. God help us.
Flunk the oh-so-much-smarter-than-you student with prejudice. "Hey asshole, you're missing the point."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 03:47 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 22, 2013 03:48 PM (qyv02)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 03:48 PM (jE38p)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 22, 2013 03:48 PM (GEICT)
always understood that was the case, and that detective chick was a hottie....
man she was *schwing* in Good Queen Bess the Golden Age.....
"you failded to maintain your weapon son..."
epic line.
I miss England
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 03:48 PM (LRFds)
Yep.
However, at some point, we will all be collectively disabused of this idea. Probably by an uncontrollable interest rate spike.
It won't be pretty. But it will get the point across. Unambiguously.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 22, 2013 03:48 PM (gqT4g)
Doubtless narrated by Jeneanne Garofalo.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 07:31 PM (+z4pE)
No, that's the one about snakes, you guys.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 22, 2013 03:50 PM (qyv02)
Posted by: General Zod at February 22, 2013 03:50 PM (2+bRt)
Posted by: derit van dyke, chim chimminey at February 22, 2013 03:50 PM (I88Jc)
Dumbfuck Genius misses the point on dual levels...
1) it was a highlighting of the societal damage of the sins more than a lecture
2) it was a giant fuck you to dysfunctional Italy
These fucking idiots would read Brave New World as a travel ad or PSA
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 03:51 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: L, elle at February 22, 2013 03:52 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 03:53 PM (jE38p)
Posted by: Low information voter at February 22, 2013 03:54 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at February 22, 2013 03:54 PM (2+bRt)
Jesus. Isn't 32 a little old to be playin gangsta?
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at February 22, 2013 03:54 PM (GRvW4)
Thanks I almost put on my dancing shoes and went short essay.
The combination of the Alamo, George Wasginton's B-day, and our impending doom had me focused and cogent.
I'll try not to fall prey to sense again.
That Crockett was not a susperhero is sorta the point, a hero was enough.
Texas needs her myth and I am not mocking, handled correctly Alamo the film is a unifying work of art for our communities and by God I miss "America" being "us" but not enough to cave to the marxists.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 03:55 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 22, 2013 03:55 PM (Q9qpj)
Posted by: jmel at February 22, 2013 03:55 PM (9tSXa)
Posted by: Just the Facts at February 22, 2013 07:45 PM (4pEBT)
This is awesome. The talking heads are identifying themselves. The ones selling Scare-questor Doom are the ones who need to be retired. Especially the ones lying about being on the Right.
Posted by: Ook? at February 22, 2013 03:55 PM (OQpzc)
Hmmm? Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the munching sound from the Thin Mints.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 22, 2013 03:55 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 03:56 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 22, 2013 03:56 PM (qyv02)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 22, 2013 03:57 PM (GEICT)
http://t.co/7fO0E5HQDZ
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 03:57 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 03:57 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: weird flunky at February 22, 2013 03:57 PM (tlhtD)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 22, 2013 03:57 PM (X9Mnx)
Reminds me of a Pink Panther cartoon where he's falling in a house, just before the house hits the ground he steps out and the house crashes but he's okay...
...that's the way Liberals think, you guys...
Posted by: CanaDave at February 22, 2013 03:58 PM (7JKfA)
We can recover from this but it will take a realignment or consolidation of political power on the level of 1896 or 1932.
Posted by: wg at February 22, 2013 03:58 PM (UymFY)
Dumbfuck Genius misses the point on dual levels...
Flunk him/her twice, then. Seriously guys.
Gotta watch the Magic game until B'Gal gets out of the shower, then watch the truck race (currently being recorded). I'm extremely disappointed with the trades today. I'd place a large bet that they won't win another game this season, which already sucked.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 03:59 PM (+z4pE)
In the place of a Dark Lord you would have a Queen!
Not dark but beautiful and terrible as the Morn!
Treacherous as the Seas!
Stronger than the foundations of the Earth!
All shall love me and despair!
You guys.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 22, 2013 03:59 PM (qyv02)
I am being criticized by a student for teaching Dante's Inferno and the fact that he placed sodomites in the eighth ring of Hell.
Yeah, the kid's got a point, it does sound kinda high.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 03:59 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 03:59 PM (jE38p)
Posted by: toby928© at February 22, 2013 04:00 PM (QupBk)
mine was Crockett playing fiddle and Crockett shooting the epaulette (sp?) off Santa Anna's uniform. Billy Bob stole the movie
Posted by: L, elle at February 22, 2013 04:00 PM (0PiQ4)
Dante was a vital piece of our collective western identity and was acknowledged as a beautiful work of art by no less than Joseph Fucking Stalin Communist Manifestooid Numba Won!
You cannot ever hope to improve if you are not trained in critical introspection from a baseline PoV for God's sake and Dante is as religious in its intent and content as "Bob Roberts."
I sincerely sympathize with your problem and had I finished my degree and took a job in History ed would likely totally empathize as well.
Keep fighting the good fight and if you get blowback set up a paypal and I'll kickstart your defense fund....
You grasp the inherent beauty and strength inherent in "Midway through life's journey I went astray...."
Hell I put this on my reflective Ramp Vest in ink at work....
“Through me you pass into the city of woe:
Through me you pass into eternal pain:
Through me among the people lost for aye.
Justice the founder of my fabric moved:
To rear me was the task of Power divine,
Supremest Wisdom, and primeval Love.
Before me things create were none, save things
Eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.”
It's a lecture to read your goddamned history and try harder...
God bless you
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:00 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 22, 2013 04:01 PM (GEICT)
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
You Guys.
Posted by: Honest Abe at February 22, 2013 04:02 PM (GRvW4)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:02 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 22, 2013 04:03 PM (BkcL5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:03 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: mindfulwebworker at February 22, 2013 04:03 PM (U13jb)
When the Fed is forced to raise interest rates to account for risk, game over as the interest payments eat all taxes.
Posted by: wg at February 22, 2013 07:58 PM (UymFY)
Hell, they've only avoided raising interest rates by buying our debt. How does that work? We ourselves money?? Can I borrow my mortgage payment from myself? How about enough for a Maserati too?
Once that game is up, interest rates - real interest rates, those demanded by real, arm's length lenders, not kabuki bullshit rates - will skyrocket to compensate lenders for the risk of galloping inflation, or further Democrat Administrations, which is pretty much the same thing.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:03 PM (IDSI7)
It's just a matter of time, you guys.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 22, 2013 04:04 PM (qyv02)
Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2013 04:04 PM (eqV3Q)
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Blah blah blah. When's American Idol on? - typical American voter
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:04 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: L, elle at February 22, 2013 04:05 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: derit at February 22, 2013 04:05 PM (I88Jc)
As noted repeatedly before, the ranks of the Free Shit Army are not confined to the Democratic Party.
And as noted repeatedly before, the habit of deficit spending lets people who are actually in the Free Shit Army pretend that they're not actually in it. More ag subsidies? More edumacation handouts? How's about some high speed trains? Fuck, sure, why not, as long as my taxes aren't going up. Gimme more Free Shit.
Tell you what. Let's raise taxes on everyone, across the board, to the level required to be operating with a zero deficit this year.
THEN re-run that poll. Once all this various Shit is no longer Free. Once it comes with a painful real world price tag.
The results will show a dramatic swing, I guarantee you.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 22, 2013 04:06 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: CarolT at February 22, 2013 04:06 PM (s0f54)
The best part is the fire, the wife, the scotch. Hallmark movie? Not so much.
Back later to rant and belch.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 22, 2013 04:06 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 22, 2013 04:06 PM (yCvxi)
historically correct scene would be "wind kicked up"...I like the inference that David Crockett got that Jim Bowie was an original "American psycho' and enjoyed Davy getting his own "moment of glory" on and that happened.
Historically wobbly but factually not "imaginary in data" scene?
"You pass the taters, I'll pass 'em back."
The Red Stick War is another "unknown little scrum" that was hard fought by both sides.
I think Crockett was as much a pacifist reluctant warrior at heart as Daniel Boone, and I am awed by his aid to Texas in her need, and his service to Andrew Jackson's militia.
You gotta watch the accurate as hell reluctant marksmen.....
they'll part your hair....
look at Alvin York.
I love "us"....why doesn't Barry?
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:06 PM (LRFds)
He feels a connection to those in that layer, if you know what I mean. I don't want to get in trouble with my principal if he complains. At the same time, I feel the children need to be exposed to Dante, if only briefly. It's a mess. How far we have fallen as a culture!
If it was me, and that student said anything to the principal about my lack of sensitivity, I'd look upon it as an opportunity to perhaps push back against the kid's social programming and directly challenge the supposition of any bigotiness. Maybe by saying that 30 years ago, this wouldn't have been an issue and the students would have looked upon it as a lesson in literature only.
Which is easy for me to say, since I'm not in your position, plus I'm a Moron. The list of things I give a shit about is small and getting smaller.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 04:07 PM (+z4pE)
However they cannot control all the variables forever and when enough of those variables go positive (or negative) and interest rates rise, then boom. (or should I say bust?) You guys.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 22, 2013 04:07 PM (qyv02)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 22, 2013 04:07 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2013 04:07 PM (paIht)
Posted by: Louis XIII at February 22, 2013 04:08 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 22, 2013 04:08 PM (/gHaE)
So stereotypical. If you had half a brain you would know American Idol was wdnesday and thursday, not friday.
Sorry, don't be hatin'. I was too busy watching MSNBC and CNN, gettin' informed and stuff, to keep track. How 'bout that Lady Gaga, huh?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:08 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:09 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Marie Antoinette (attributed) at February 22, 2013 04:09 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 08:06 PM (LRFds)
He's not one of "us", you guys.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 22, 2013 04:09 PM (qyv02)
Posted by: Neil Armstrong is a skinny spacesuit at February 22, 2013 04:09 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 22, 2013 04:10 PM (GEICT)
However they cannot control all the variables forever and when enough of those variables go positive (or negative) and interest rates rise, then boom. (or should I say bust?)
Yep, and then the whole financial Potemkin village will suddenly go critical, as a number of variables spin out of control at the same time, each one triggering the next. Think 1/(x-r), as x approaches r ...
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:10 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: CanaDave at February 22, 2013 04:11 PM (7JKfA)
Posted by: Rule #2 at February 22, 2013 04:11 PM (CypDC)
Sonofabitch. He's started in with the French stuff again.
Relax. He's just running through the different ways of saying, "We surrender." It's kinda like the different words Eskimos have for snow.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:11 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:11 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:11 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: wooga at February 22, 2013 04:12 PM (6E2Pf)
http://www.online-literature.com/poe/36/
Posted by: A Romp of Otters at February 22, 2013 04:12 PM (9ZAcB)
Posted by: toby928© at February 22, 2013 04:12 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 22, 2013 04:12 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:12 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: CanaDave at February 22, 2013 04:13 PM (7JKfA)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:13 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 22, 2013 04:13 PM (qyv02)
hey remember when tuna fish was cheap?
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:14 PM (nqBYe)
I think those are drones.
/adjusts shiny hat
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 22, 2013 04:14 PM (BkcL5)
You Guys.
Posted by: Winston at February 22, 2013 04:14 PM (GRvW4)
Posted by: Rep Hank Johnson (D)umb at February 22, 2013 04:14 PM (jucos)
9i0Watch as I turn copper and lead into booty!!
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2013 08:07 PM (paIht)
That's nothing. Watch as I turn a formerly great country into shit. Zimbabwe will be sending us CARE packages!
Posted by: Prince Hussein at February 22, 2013 04:14 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:15 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: L, elle at February 22, 2013 04:15 PM (0PiQ4)
Remember when tuna fish was sold in a 6 oz can and filled the can?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 22, 2013 04:15 PM (qyv02)
You have to learn to think like a politician to udnerstand why both sides of the aisle are behaving as they are.
They know there are no painless ways out. None. But the pain can be delayed, and they will play musical chairs in the hope that they can get out in time to avoid the blame for the final catastrophe.
In the meantime the watchword in congress is that no one can suffer. Because everyone is some congress-critter's constituent.
This also explains why the rare truth-speakers are also kind of nutty.
Posted by: Meremortal at February 22, 2013 04:16 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: jmel at February 22, 2013 04:16 PM (9tSXa)
or you know let's pool our resources, skills, drive, and mutual interlocking self-interest run red and blow those sonsofbitches to hell when need be?
either way works for me you guys....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:17 PM (LRFds)
The problem is that the lazy Twatina Entitlecuntginas in this country have figured out that they can vote them selves free stuff and its not gonna stop till they destroy the country and they cant get anymore free stuff.
Toldya.
Posted by: Alexis de Tocqueville at February 22, 2013 04:17 PM (IDSI7)
mac and cheese for two as a side dish instead of 4 as a side dish. Interesting enough box is still the same size.
( yes kids still want mac and cheese. shudder)
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:17 PM (nqBYe)
going to burn and there's not really anything anyone can do about it
but that's not what is likely to happen. instead we are likely to end up like Japan and Britain: just barely staggering along from decade to decade, kinda like a zombie, until we finally vanish into irrelevance
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:17 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 22, 2013 04:18 PM (X9Mnx)
The world is flat and is balanced on the back of a giant turtle. Don't rock the boat or it'll fall off!
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 22, 2013 08:08 PM
I've never seen a turtle. But, I know what you mean You Guys.
Posted by: leon at February 22, 2013 04:18 PM (yBF/9)
You were brave enough to hang, and we must protect those like you who try to stop the water coming through the dike.
I'm serious you siffer blowback you get on the horn or e-mail with Ewok 6 and we'll get you squared away I hope.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:19 PM (LRFds)
the government might as well mint the trillion dollar coin at this point. I mean, why the hell not?
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:19 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: ace en francais at February 22, 2013 04:19 PM (LCRYB)
instead we are likely to end up like Japan and Britain: just barely staggering along from decade to decade, kinda like a zombie, until we finally vanish into irrelevance
You mean until all the people we've helped out over the years, overcome by gratitude, step up to the plate to help us out, right? Right?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:20 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2013 04:20 PM (eqV3Q)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:20 PM (bxiXv)
You might want to assign 1984 as a precursor to what actually has happened or Brave New World.
Also point out that sodomy has historically been a crime and an offense against nature due to it's nihilistic tendencies and anti human result. These are facts of history and cannot be denied. Much as liberals would like to change history, even they can't change it all. Which is why they try their best to eliminate it or create faux images that masquerade as history through film and TV.
I wouldn't want to deal with anyone under 40 these days. Unless they're from rural flyover country, then maybe.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 22, 2013 04:20 PM (qyv02)
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:20 PM (cnS/d)
If you have your master craftsman how much would you need to be in a position to teach students for table money to help you out if a license or something is needed?
Basic tools and whatnot?
You ever ponder getting into the Magazine building business my friend?
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:21 PM (LRFds)
commen tale viou
je ve being
a vou
see i don't even remember how to spell it.
(4th grade)
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:21 PM (nqBYe)
What did they think was going to happen when they threw open the borders and refused to require that immigrants assimilate?
It is going to be exactly like what Liberal Californians have done to screw up Colorado and Washington state. They are going to drag their stupid ideas with them.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 04:21 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 22, 2013 04:21 PM (yCvxi)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:22 PM (bxiXv)
hey gang I meant what I typed to Backwards Boy.....
I think we may need an AoS kickstarter to lay the groundwork for "moron industries"
we need a win goddamnit.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:22 PM (LRFds)
while i adore french kissing, if teeth are freshly cleaned and flossed. and the guy does it well without slobber
do we have to all learn french to comment?
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:22 PM (nqBYe)
what would "moron industries" produce? tranny pr0n?
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:23 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 08:22 PM (bxiXv)
shiver, don't tell me you might slip tuna fish in it?
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:23 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 22, 2013 04:23 PM (PxYrx)
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 08:17 PM (cnS/d
I really doubt the world's economy is going to survive what's coming. This is an ELE. I'm glad I work in that old-fashioned industry of agriculture. People are still going to want wine in the new depression.
Posted by: A Romp of Otters at February 22, 2013 04:23 PM (9ZAcB)
Posted by: ace at February 22, 2013 04:24 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: sTevo at February 22, 2013 04:24 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: ace at February 22, 2013 08:24 PM (LCRYB)
oooh yes, that is how it is spelled i remember now.
sigh i'm old!
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:25 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Flounder at February 22, 2013 04:25 PM (SSWdi)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:25 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at February 22, 2013 04:25 PM (ULg3N)
You ever ponder getting into the Magazine building business my friend?
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 08:21 PM (LRFds)
I would expect that you would have to register with the ATF and have inspections and shit. Got into a discussion regarding machining AR15 lower receivers earlier today.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 04:25 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:25 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 22, 2013 04:26 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 22, 2013 04:26 PM (qyv02)
and glamour shots of Rubio's trash....
heh....
we have out of work Morons with skills and other morons needing skills....
you figure we could specialize in making hard to find rare magazines for pistols, rifles etc etc and maybe slowly build up or capitalize to get the 'moron M-42 AR-15 6.5*50 Reassurance Personal Life Coach Rifle" off the ground....
you'd need an AR-10 7.62*51 pattern and get a slightly more macho Grendel class round with flatter ballistics IMHO....
WAR!
I want a win
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:26 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 22, 2013 07:57 PM (X9Mnx)
And, your point is? I already know, conservatives suck.
Posted by: Locked Nest Monster at February 22, 2013 04:26 PM (dBayF)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:26 PM (bxiXv)
what would "moron industries" produce? Posted by: chemjeff hates snow
Whatever it is, it should be easy to mail.
Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2013 04:27 PM (eqV3Q)
We had neighbors who thought it was cute to feed raccoons, until they had about 30 at a time showing up each night.
Turns out it's a lot easier to train raccoons to come for food than it is to train them to fuck off when you stop feeding them. As my neighbors found out.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:27 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 22, 2013 04:27 PM (4Mv1T)
We got Lawdog Morons, if we have a class three moron maybe the kickstarter needs to move our machinist moron to the class three moron and invest in a facility and on and on....
it is a cast iron bitch finding mags for some C+R pistols and rifles.....
I'm serious I want a win goddamnit.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:27 PM (LRFds)
Basically, insanity is a spectrum disorder, and there's a big swath of the spectrum that regularly escapes detection.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 08:25 PM (bxiXv)
I personally think insanity is an innate characteristics of humans. If you want to see it come out, all you have to do is add money.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 04:28 PM (bb5+k)
Well they're around/above 1000% debt/GDP (never mind that it's debt/tax revenue that matters since it's the central government's debt, not the nation's), whereas we are merely above 100%. So they are technically worse.
We'll make a bigger boom, though.
Posted by: Methos at February 22, 2013 04:28 PM (hO9ad)
Sorry I'm shouting. I like macaroni and cheese, especially with meat in it. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 08:22 PM (bxiXv)
Drat you all to heck. *trudges to kitchen to make some KD*
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 22, 2013 04:28 PM (Gk3SS)
The Brits are taking on water.
France has joined Italy in the tube that leads down down down.
The last question left for the Eurozone (and the world economy) is how long can/will Germany carry the weight of Eurozone debt by itself?
Posted by: Meremortal at February 22, 2013 04:28 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Extinction Level Event at February 22, 2013 08:24 PM (+OTLF)
Or ME, you guys.
Posted by: Massive Die Off at February 22, 2013 04:29 PM (qyv02)
If you have your master craftsman how much would you need to be in a position to teach students for table money to help you out if a license or something is needed?
Basic tools and whatnot?
You ever ponder getting into the Magazine building business my friend?
Hmmm, sounds interesting. I work cheap, as we've downsized about as much as we can over the past couple of years. Anything coming in will be more than what's coming in now, which is zero. I'm thinking maybe 15K to start.
There are several avenues available. Please expand on your idea.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 04:29 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:29 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:30 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:30 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: Hollywood Trying to Get Your Attention at February 22, 2013 04:30 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 08:26 PM (bxiXv)
one of my children begged for a hamburger helper .
enchilada style?
He said it was th best stuff!
I reminded him i make enhilada carne asadas, many things mexican with real beef not hamburger!
he just looked at me and said, but mom it's really good!
pfft.
sad face, followed by a hiss.
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:30 PM (nqBYe)
Those are probably among the most likely people to move out of the shitholes (not as dedicated to the ideology), and then vote reflexively and stupidly after they go.
The story of California 1970 --> present, in a nutshell. Asshole liberals from the Northeast fled their liberal shithole states, came here, brought their idiotic ideology with them, and voila! Recreated a political hemorrhoid.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:30 PM (IDSI7)
The notion of government run healthcare has not and does not poll well either but that hasn't slowed the Democrats down one damn bit. The passed their shit and now it is the law of the land and we all have to deal with and they don't really seem to be being punished for it.
So fuck the GOP for not having the courage of their (supposed) convictions and implementing a small gov agenda when they had the chance. And fuck 'em for not having the sac to force Obama into dealing with a real budget.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 22, 2013 04:30 PM (7xFeq)
not rendering this as a flame, it's funny they would leave England to go to England version 2.0....
my dad who is not the most educated on history man pointed out that our surname went from the 14th most common in England down to the 63d or so in 2 generations after the Resumption....
they kicked our asses out of England so hard we landed all over the Atlantic shore....
I'll pray for them.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:30 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 08:30 PM (cnS/d)
*waves* They're going well. Need to put in more mac and cheese supplies though.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 22, 2013 04:31 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: tasker at February 22, 2013 04:31 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:32 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Eric Holder at February 22, 2013 04:32 PM (15w2J)
I suspect you're right and I also suspect we could find a happy to have us Texas or Louisiana.....
but we need a lawdog to research it maybe and we need a plan.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:32 PM (LRFds)
it is a cast iron bitch finding mags for some C+R pistols and rifles.....
I'm serious I want a win goddamnit.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 08:27 PM (LRFds)
I've got a computer controlled milling machine. I could probably machine any sort of magazine I wanted with it, though most of them are just bent metal, which is much more economical to manufacture.
I've been noticing some people have been fabing AR15 magazines out of three dimensional printers. That's probably the easier way to go for small quantities.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 04:32 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 08:25 PM (bxiXv)
Seriously. Add money, and otherwise sensible people become loons.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 04:33 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at February 22, 2013 04:33 PM (GRvW4)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 22, 2013 04:33 PM (yCvxi)
Alex you ever agree to the Magnifying Carter for Atopia you give me a holler.....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:33 PM (LRFds)
I would expect that you would have to register with the ATF and have inspections and shit. Got into a discussion regarding machining AR15 lower receivers earlier today.
Would that also apply to mags?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 04:33 PM (+z4pE)
Sorry I'm shouting. I like macaroni and cheese, especially with meat in it.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 08:22 PM (bxiXv)
Drat you all to heck. *trudges to kitchen to make some KD*
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 22, 2013 08:28 PM (Gk3SS)
oh my you too?
it's a conspiracy! srsly mac and cheese with real noodles backed in the oven chedder cheese etc, now that's edable,
otherwise yick.
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:33 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Hirohito at February 22, 2013 04:33 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 22, 2013 04:34 PM (yCvxi)
The last question left for the Eurozone (and the world economy) is how long can/will Germany carry the weight of Eurozone debt by itself?
Posted by: Meremortal at February 22, 2013 08:28 PM (1Y+hH)
You remember seeing the footage of the World Trade center collapsing floor by floor? Well Germany is just one of the lower floors. When that weight comes down on it, it will collapse as well.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 04:34 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 22, 2013 04:34 PM (qyv02)
"is your avocado bad?"
Posted by: tasker at February 22, 2013 08:31 PM (r2PLg)
ack, so frisky is out tonight?
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:35 PM (nqBYe)
who in their right minds feeds raccoons? argh, what a bunch of stupid neighbors you have Jay
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 08:29 PM (cnS/d)
Yep. And that was in Missouri, too, chemjeff. (Creve Coeur).
Short answer: no one in his right mind does anything of the kind. I'm sure they tried reasoning with the raccoons, and even coexisting with them, but it didn't work out.
The funny part was we found this out when we were at their house and they beamingly told us to come watch something really cute. They started feeding them, and about 30 raccoons (I'm not exaggerating) began showing up and getting more and more bold (although none asked for "free pho's," so there's that) as the guy fed them ... by hand.
He then asked if our kids (then 6 and 2) would like to feed them by hand. (True story.) I looked at him as though he were crazy, which I think he was. Dude, you're not in a Disney movie, OK? These are wild fucking animals. Look up the word "wild" if necessary.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:36 PM (IDSI7)
I'm sure the drooling government would like to check your underpants once a month, but just for magazines they don't have the authority.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 08:30 PM (bxiXv)
I would get a lawyer in the industry to give me advice on this before I jumped into it.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 04:36 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Ben Franklin at February 22, 2013 04:36 PM (hpYnL)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:36 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Slappy at February 22, 2013 08:35 PM (LTbLf)
Shit man. Back when I was a poor grad student I'd mix in a pound of ground beef and throw a bunch of Tony Chachere seasoning all over it. That's good eatin!
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at February 22, 2013 04:37 PM (GRvW4)
If I were to get, say, three Yes albums to start with, which should they be?
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 22, 2013 04:37 PM (BkcL5)
oh, well, that's in the St. Louis area. I'm convinced that the French built their plumbing for that city with lead pipes that have never been replaced.
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:37 PM (cnS/d)
DL backwards Boy is in a lot of pain as a machinist type and I will defer to your wisdom, my love for you creators is sincere. I spent too much of my life learning destruction and never got to be more than a good spare set of hands for construction. You get inspired to do some analysis and get a price tag you let me know we can get a study going I think.
The machining tutor/old school production method on period piece mags may be useful laying the groundwork if we ever got the certs and license to produce genuine Class III kit.
After the dust settles from this next move I can probably kick in money...God willing we make it to retirement and decide on our next home I was serious about wanting to craft an interlocking diversified conglomerate.
By God we are the fucking economy and our willingness to work, and adapt is a national resource.
Anyway there *is* a market for C+R mags IMHO....
"seriously you guys"
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:37 PM (LRFds)
...a plugged in toaster?
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 22, 2013 04:38 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:38 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Whatev at February 22, 2013 04:38 PM (A7Wh1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 22, 2013 04:38 PM (PxYrx)
I don't think they'll bomb Nagasaki, you guys!
Posted by: Hirohito at February 22, 2013 08:33 PM (r2PLg)
Yeah, the roundeyes are bluffing!
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:39 PM (IDSI7)
I've got a computer controlled milling machine. I could probably machine any sort of magazine I wanted with it, though most of them are just bent metal, which is much more economical to manufacture.
I've been noticing some people have been fabing AR15 magazines out of three dimensional printers. That's probably the easier way to go for small quantities.
If we're going to start from scratch, I'd recommend 3-D printing. Bending metal, which I know how to do, would have a longer lead time. A couple of printers and an oven would get us creating wealth in a couple of weeks, versus a few months using the old way.
If we really wanted to get up and running quickly, we could consider plastic printing for the obvious parts. Those are really cheap.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 04:39 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 08:38 PM (nqBYe)
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:39 PM (cnS/d)
Would that also apply to mags?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 08:33 PM (+z4pE)
If they are seriously talking about banning them, I would think they would at least sick the ATF on the manufactures to make sure they know who is in charge.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 04:39 PM (bb5+k)
>>>I want to get naked with Paul Krugman in a giant kiddie pool filled with...
Evinrudes at full throttle?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:39 PM (IDSI7)
I don't want imitation bran muffins, I want imitation KFC biscuits, dammit!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 08:36 PM (bxiXv)
I cannot imagine how harsh it must be to have to check every ingredient in every food
I imagine eating in a restaurant is out?
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:39 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:39 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Drug Resistant Tuberculosis at February 22, 2013 04:40 PM (jucos)
So, this would be rancid yogurt and rabid cats, right?
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:40 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:40 PM (bxiXv)
oh, well, that's in the St. Louis area. I'm convinced that the French built their plumbing for that city with lead pipes that have never been replaced.
That would explain North St. Louis. Cover me, I'm going out for a newspaper!
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:41 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: soothie, now with exfoliating beads at February 22, 2013 04:41 PM (gtTDa)
There you are...
good to see you....
BB you have a skill and are willing to endure teaching we may have a gameplan.
If your jacket is clean enough to bear a Class III app and I am NOT being judgmental I assure you we need to ponder getting a Class III moron.
At a minimum research what you can and ponder what would make you happy.
I want a win and I can kick in some cash....
Where are you located and would you consider a move if need be?
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:42 PM (LRFds)
Problem solved, you guys!
Posted by: SGT. York at February 22, 2013 04:42 PM (xIFT4)
Posted by: tasker at February 22, 2013 04:42 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 22, 2013 04:42 PM (X9Mnx)
and we need to ponder "how far are you willing to go?"
There are a lot of potential cover applications for a magazine production facility....
if Corzine, Bark et al get to break the law I am rapidly getting past my deference to idiotic ones myself.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:43 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at February 22, 2013 04:43 PM (u6nf+)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:43 PM (bxiXv)
Our problem isn't that our elected officials aren't listening to us. The problem is that they are.
And the further problem is that they're getting financial tips from people in foreclosure.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:44 PM (IDSI7)
well, that poll certainly does explain a whole lot of GOP politician behavior.
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:44 PM (cnS/d)
If we're going to start from scratch, I'd recommend 3-D printing. Bending metal, which I know how to do, would have a longer lead time. A couple of printers and an oven would get us creating wealth in a couple of weeks, versus a few months using the old way.
If we really wanted to get up and running quickly, we could consider plastic printing for the obvious parts. Those are really cheap.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 08:39 PM (+z4pE)
As I mentioned, people are already using the 3D printers for this. There is a youtube video showing a guy firing an AR15 while using a 3D printed magazine. I think they claim to have fired 300+ rounds with it and no malfunctions.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 04:44 PM (bb5+k)
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 08:39 PM (cnS/d)
nice link, ty.
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:44 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 08:40 PM (bxiXv)
true
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:45 PM (nqBYe)
And eventually they will have stronger printable plastic recipes.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 08:39 PM (bxiXv)
Or even metal fabbers.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 04:46 PM (bb5+k)
OT
I had a smokin' hot mexican woman I work with tell me she had a dream about me last night, but she won't tell me what went on. What I was able to to find out.
It was me and her
Neither of us were wearing a Batgirl costume
No midgets or animals were involved
There was no yodeling
Ceiling fans were not involved
I was not covered in peanut butter
If she told me, she'd have to kill me as it made her blush.
It was a nice day to a very shitty week.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2013 04:46 PM (paIht)
yes it is....what is the cost?
They trained housewives to crank out 6 million M-1 carbines with cruder tech...I am not narcissistic in saying that either in many ways we were better off then.
How much an art would it be, what is involved?
Do any of us have the skill to do schematic generation if we were to acquire an existing Mag as a blank?
Hell there are cheap 9mms suffering from a lack of Mags like the Daewoo DP-51 which is actually a GREAT Browning Hi-Power clone....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:47 PM (LRFds)
awful.
i actuaally ate cheetos a few days ago with my kid while watchign a movie
liked em.
lowers eyes
thinks of all the cheetos eating things i've heard.
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:47 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2013 08:46 PM (paIht)
you dawg, you guy
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:47 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:47 PM (bxiXv)
It was me and her
Neither of us were wearing a Batgirl costume
No midgets or animals were involved
There was no yodeling
Ceiling fans were not involved
I was not covered in peanut butter
If she told me, she'd have to kill me as it made her blush.
It was a nice day to a very shitty week.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2013 08:46 PM (paIht)
Well if there's no yodeling, why bother?
Posted by: Slim Whitman at February 22, 2013 04:48 PM (GRvW4)
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 08:39 PM (cnS/d)
When shit goes tits up I'm gonna invade one of the Channel Islands and live like a pirate king.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 22, 2013 04:48 PM (NzBQO)
The Fed cannot raise interest rates. If they do, they fuck the federal government. They are the only reason we've been able to get away with running $1T+ deficits for the last 5 years. Without their massive prin-- uh, quantitative easing, interest rates would've shot through the roof, "bondzilla" telling Uncle Sam he was borrowing too much. But the Fed comes in and saves the day.
So far, we haven't inflated too much (at least by official BLS figures -- but hey, have you noticed oil and food?), but that's in the cards. If the Fed were to tighten, interest rate on Ts would skyrocket, fucking Uncle. And besides that, the Fed would start suffering capital losses on its own balance sheet (it gets complicated, and a blog comment is not the place to try to explain it, but these losses would have to be eaten by the taxpayer to keep the monetary system in balance, which is essentially more debt -- they even created a little balance sheet trick to handle this possibility, but it won't matter).
In short, if Helicopter and the boys try to tighten, they immediately fuck us, fiscally and monetarily. The only hope is to keep going and hope inflation doesn't get out of hand. But it will will. We're fucked either way, mind you.
We've crossed the event horizon, make no mistake. There is no escape. The only question is how much proper time on our little doomed world lines we have before we hit the singularity.
Fiscally and monetarily, we've gone over the Wile E. Coyote cliff. We won't fall until we (the market) look down. But we will fall.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at February 22, 2013 04:48 PM (Pqgwi)
Our problem isn't that our elected officials aren't listening to us. The problem is that they are.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 22, 2013 08:42 PM (X9Mnx)
I think the problem is they are listening to the sheeple which are constantly being herded by the media liberals.
In a numbers game, even stupid numbers can vote.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 04:49 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 08:34 PM (bb5+k)
The Eurozone was created with the idea that England, Germany, France and Italy could carry the weight during bad times. Then England didn't become a full member. Then Italy went down and can't help. Now France is in the same shape. I think the German voters will demand an end to the insanity before Germany collapses.
Then the question will change to: "Is it too late?" Probably, it will be too late.
Posted by: Meremortal at February 22, 2013 04:49 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: tasker at February 22, 2013 08:42 PM (r2PLg)
avocados are supposed to be a 'mood' thing.
aphrodisiac or
just fattening.
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:50 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: derit don't know nuttin bout mammals at February 22, 2013 04:50 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Waterhouse
Fragile, Close to the Edge, Tales from the Topographic Seas would be the three I'd go with. I liked Relayer, 90125, and Big Generator too but you said only three. Union is pretty good. Dammit, I'd better stop.
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 22, 2013 04:50 PM (15w2J)
Posted by: soothie, now with exfoliating beads at February 22, 2013 04:51 PM (39q3n)
I see you skipped over the part about the dems not giving a flying damn about how their agenda polls and just implementing it.
The dems are the party of big government and whatever their faults they will try to implement a big government agenda whenever elected.
The GOP claims to be the party of small government but when elected and given the power they don't follow through--because the professional GOP doesn't believe in small government anymore than the dems do, they just want to control Leviathan not end it.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 22, 2013 04:51 PM (7xFeq)
Posted by: David Metis at February 22, 2013 04:51 PM (MRyPF)
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at February 22, 2013 08:48 PM (Pqgwi)
Yep. Real interest rates - not the kabuki shit we're looking at now from QE - would hammer the economy, which hasn't exactly been roaring during the Jugears Administration.
Real interest rates would drive us into a no shit depression, so instead we pretend. We put that $1 trillion IOU in our wallets, and whistle a happy tune.
For now.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 04:52 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2013 04:52 PM (eqV3Q)
"O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
Swing low sweet meteor...comin' for to carry me home. Faster Please.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 22, 2013 04:52 PM (1ynxJ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 08:47 PM (bxiXv)
so sorry dear. I never really had thought that through, but yes
that makes social activity difficult.
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:53 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Nerdtopia at February 22, 2013 04:53 PM (Itkub)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:53 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 22, 2013 04:53 PM (PxYrx)
yeah I don't think a Limitless pill is possible. but whatevs, hope you enjoy your concoction
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:54 PM (cnS/d)
I'm sorry to hear you endure that burden.
You need a better class of contacts IMHO.
Maybe if we all collapse to the same region we can work on if not dominating a municipal region at least being a force in it....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 04:54 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: guy no one listens to at February 22, 2013 04:54 PM (KgD0C)
Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2013 08:52 PM (eqV3Q)
I'm good I just visited my local dealer this week, will probably be begging her for more next week. I just can't quit girl scout cookies.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 22, 2013 04:54 PM (NzBQO)
I would get a lawyer in the industry to give me advice on this before I jumped into it.
Strongly agree.
And DL, they already have metal 3D printers. Look on FaceToob. They'd require an oven. Also, springs aren't that hard to make. The material can be specified and bent without too much trouble.
I have one little black mark on my record, which I think can be made innocuous with the application of some legal-type stuff.
Research is my specialty. /Wallace
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 04:55 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 04:55 PM (cnS/d)
and we need to ponder "how far are you willing to go?"
There are a lot of potential cover applications for a magazine production facility....
if Corzine, Bark et al get to break the law I am rapidly getting past my deference to idiotic ones myself.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 08:43 PM (LRFds)
My plan, so far, is to accumulate as much assets and commodities as I can manage, and attempt to maintain as many viable ways of being useful in a community after an economic collapse.
I am currently trying to get my natural gas pump station on line, and after that I intend to turn to doing conversions. If money goes worthless, the local community is still going to need means of fueling their equipment and vehicles.
I've been working to be a sort of "tech" center for a long while, with an eye towards invention and manufacturing. I've got some pretty cool shit.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 04:55 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:56 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 08:56 PM (bxiXv)
absolutely
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 04:58 PM (nqBYe)
Do any of us have the skill to do schematic generation if we were to acquire an existing Mag as a blank?
*raises hand*
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 04:58 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 04:58 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 08:43 PM (bxiXv)
Yes. It's a combination of carbon content and tempering, and unless you already know how to do it, it will take a lot of trial and error to figure it out.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 04:58 PM (bb5+k)
To the No-Info voter there is no debtor delusion, Obama said he would go balanced budget just like clinton,so what's the big deal, just hire those 100,000 teachers and finally put taxes on the rich.
duh?
I mean you guys there's no coherent Obamanomics doctrine.
Posted by: the joeindc44 at February 22, 2013 04:59 PM (rQHoF)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 22, 2013 05:00 PM (7xFeq)
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 22, 2013 05:00 PM (QLJPW)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 05:00 PM (bxiXv)
Well yeah it is a SW clone....
which um while not a clone is definitely a zombie HP-35 to some degree....
I am an HP-35 fanboy the SW and Daewoo are "near enough for 245"
heh
Maybe like the SW 39 is the HP-35 and P-38 having a baby that claims to be John Browning's kid and the Koreans copied the bastard...
point taken though
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:01 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: David Metis at February 22, 2013 05:02 PM (MRyPF)
We've crossed the event horizon, make no mistake. There is no escape. The only question is how much proper time on our little doomed world lines we have before we hit the singularity.
Fiscally and monetarily, we've gone over the Wile E. Coyote cliff. We won't fall until we (the market) look down. But we will fall.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at February 22, 2013 08:48 PM (Pqgwi)
This is what I am thinking as well. Romney really was the last chance we had to steer away from the rocks.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:02 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 05:02 PM (bxiXv)
As far as the GOP fucking their own, yeah, see eg W with not only amnesty but medicare D and pennslyvania steel tariffs .... lot of good that did us in PA.
Also, why did HW sign ADA?
to prove we're nice?
fuck that, embrace the eeeevil. cut spending. oppose new spending
Posted by: the joeindc44 at February 22, 2013 05:02 PM (rQHoF)
You could have knocked me over with a feather you guys. Mr. Watergate actually criticized this Administration.
Posted by: Cheri at February 22, 2013 05:03 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 05:03 PM (bxiXv)
I have two of my grand dad's mags from his WWI 1911 (that was later stolen in a 1960's home break-in)
I still use those mags at the range in my 1990's Colt Govt. model.
Springs fab must indeed be an art.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 22, 2013 05:03 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 22, 2013 08:49 PM (1Y+hH)
I think it is already too late. To get out of such a mess, you have to have people smart enough not to get into such a mess. They don't.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:04 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 05:04 PM (bxiXv)
Romney wasted 2.6 of the 3 hours that the GOP get every year to makes its case to the public.
now we have to wait until 2016 for Huntsman/christie/Graham to acede that there's nothing to fear from the inevitable Holder/VAnJones ticket
Posted by: the joeindc44 at February 22, 2013 05:04 PM (rQHoF)
we need a lawdog to research the license reqs, a price structure for schematic generation, a subject weapon to fit test gear, start up eqpt cost, material cost etc etc
if the market is there and there is even a narrow margin of profit it would be a Red State Strategic Asset worthy of taking a slight stumble on rate of return on....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:05 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 05:05 PM (bxiXv)
Of course not. Baby steps.
Posted by: Cheri at February 22, 2013 05:05 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: the joeindc44 at February 22, 2013 05:06 PM (rQHoF)
Posted by: Icedog at February 22, 2013 05:06 PM (9ScGj)
Goldbugs are as nervous as a whore in church as yellow seeks a new 52 week low. When the Fed actually tightens sometime next year gold will fall below $600/oz.
Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at February 22, 2013 05:06 PM (wNgNI)
****
As an expert in these affairs I can tell you it is easy to make springs.
Get untempered spring steel at McMaster Carr online and cut to width and length, bend to shape. Put the spring on an 3/8" aluminum plate, raised up on bricks high enough to get a flame under and big enough to accommodate the spring by half again, heat plate from underneath with a propane torch. Keep torch moving. When the correct temp is reached you can watch as the heat runs up the spring stock by watching the color change. When the color gets to the top of the spring you're done, remove from the plate and let cool.
Posted by: panzernashorn at February 22, 2013 05:06 PM (MhA4j)
yup...you talk to an idiot who thinks he is smarter than Leonardo DaVinci because "I got an android phone!" you kick him in the balls please?
A lot of hard work went into each stage of civilization, and no civilization survives a lack of hard workers.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:06 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 22, 2013 05:07 PM (MhA4j)
OK. Gotta run, you guys.
I can be reached by clicking my nic, going to my place and sending me an email at that address on the front page.
Oh, and sven, I'm in CentFL and really not in a position to move now. I can, however, travel for a while. B'Gal's arthritis and her family keeps me here. I can arrange for the kids to look after her for stints.
Land down here is cheap. Plus, the climate is nice. A facility with some housing on it wouldn't be out of the question either. I'm close to the country.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 05:08 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 05:08 PM (aAYXM)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 05:08 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: David Metis at February 22, 2013 05:08 PM (MRyPF)
Close enough for government work.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 09:03 PM (bxiXv)
==========================================
Well anyway, sounds like gluten or IBS or crohn's or diverticulitis...hope you'll be OK. Had gut issues for awhile, managed to clear it up without AMA fuckery.
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 22, 2013 05:08 PM (QLJPW)
YYSW fuckhead, inflation is so low it is nuking fuel, food, and energy costs...
you know tonight the truncated version....
go fuk a chainsaw if Helicopter Ben knew what the fuck he was doing Japan would not be fucking calculators and having a youth demographic aged 59....
seriously go fuck yourself.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:08 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: the joeindc44 at February 22, 2013 05:09 PM (rQHoF)
I saw at a big medical trade show, a company that did 3d printing to visualize patient anatomy to help guide surgeons and stuff. The source data was a volume of medical CT images, which they then processed into a CAD file. So essentially anything you can CT scan can be set up for solid printing.
Posted by: Rule #2 at February 22, 2013 05:09 PM (CypDC)
Mr. Metis..."yes" the problem is that "above board" ammunition manufacture is hyper regulated....we need a viable profit margin stabilization business to diversify comrade and we need to concentrate maybe....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:09 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: the joeindc44 at February 22, 2013 05:10 PM (rQHoF)
@340:
Yep, and the Fed knows it -- a couple of their economists have put out a couple of CYA papers during the last couple of weeks admitting all this. Well, the say it "could" happen. Their balance sheet just went over $3T (that's pushing 20% of US GDP!) and they're essentially admitting they can't unwind without fucking everything.
The only question is do we die by inflationary fire, or by deflationary ice, depending on just what they do. My bet is on the former, as they won't have the guts to just default on the debt and cut spending to tax revenue (what little will be coming in). They'll turn up the printing presses (bypassing the Fed by law if they have to) to keep the checks flowing. At that point, we're Weimar.
If they went the other route, they'd have to stop the checks. But it's the same in real terms. Either still get the check in worthless dollars, or get no checks.
And that will be an Armaggedon, and no just fearmongering as they're doing with the sequester, talking about a mere 2% cut in the rate of growth. You'll see *real cuts* there in real terms, and not just a mere couple of percent. Heh, heh. It will be weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at February 22, 2013 05:10 PM (Pqgwi)
Research is my specialty. /Wallace
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 08:55 PM (+z4pE)
The only metal fabbers of which I have heard are sintered. Not the sort of thing to make something that needs to be robust. I was thinking more along the lines of something that prints by welding thin continuous lines of brass.
Steel would be harder, but I can see a device working with this material as well.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:10 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 05:10 PM (bxiXv)
the person who comes up with DiY gunpowder kits and an easy primer manufacturing process will be doing a public service and be a rich man....
they can't stop the signal Mal
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:11 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 22, 2013 05:11 PM (MhA4j)
When the mailman is giving you gold buying tips, that's when you want to sell. In other words, nervous is good for future increases in the price of gold. Confidence in increasing gold prices is bad.
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 05:12 PM (aAYXM)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 05:12 PM (bxiXv)
Joe we need to cover down and focus on interlocking economic fields of fire I'd wager....
but yeah if you can make 'er go put it up and let me look
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:12 PM (LRFds)
You can buy the wire or sheet for making springs from McMaster-Carr, and form the parts cold, by bending or winding. Then you heat it up, quench in oil, and wa-lah it's all springy.
Posted by: Rule #2 at February 22, 2013 05:12 PM (CypDC)
Posted by: David Metis at February 22, 2013 05:13 PM (MRyPF)
Posted by: the joeindc44 at February 22, 2013 05:13 PM (rQHoF)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 05:13 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Drug Resistant Tuberculosis at February 22, 2013 05:13 PM (jucos)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2013 05:13 PM (fTmfD)
we need a lawdog to research the license reqs, a price structure for schematic generation, a subject weapon to fit test gear, start up eqpt cost, material cost etc etc
if the market is there and there is even a narrow margin of profit it would be a Red State Strategic Asset worthy of taking a slight stumble on rate of return on....
I should be able to reverse-engineer a mag if I can get ahold of one. I have measuring tools and I think I have a copy of AutoCAD around here somewhere. The other hardware stuff I can price out in my spare time. I can also look for a building and some acreage down here.
Later, you guys...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 05:14 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp
You know why Romney lost? Because he said "Elect me & I will put you back to work!" And 51% of the country said, "Screw That!"
Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2013 05:14 PM (eqV3Q)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 09:05 PM (bxiXv)
Depends on the make. My Dodge 3500 leaf springs went from arched down to arched up in about 10 years.
Posted by: Ronster at February 22, 2013 05:14 PM (dBayF)
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 22, 2013 05:15 PM (QLJPW)
Two parts:
1) Moonshining
2) Brigandage
Posted by: David Metis at February 22, 2013 09:02 PM (MRyPF)
An idea of which I conceived quite some time ago is this:
If you see a run on the stores, grab all the mouthwash you can get. Cases if possible. The stuff contains mostly ethyl alcohol, and is fit for human consumption. Distill it out of the other crap, and you have drinkable alcohol. (though not of particularly good quality.)
It has the advantage of getting past the revenuers alcohol tax because it was never intended to be used in that manner. It's cheaper than actual retail liquor.
When you need to trade something, this will make decent trading material.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:15 PM (bb5+k)
@384: Heh. And why is the 10yr so low. **BECAUSE THE FED IS BUYING THE SHIT OUT OF THEM**. They are artificially holding T rates low by monetizing the hell out of them. It's not a real market rate, it's an artifical rate that is not coupled with reality at all.
And I'll make you a bet about them tightening next year. They ain't gonna do it. They can't.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at February 22, 2013 05:16 PM (Pqgwi)
Hey Mero -- perhaps "pure" oatmeal with no trace of gluten is too costly but I've been vaguely avoiding wheat just as an experiment and making oatmeal waffles to satisfy my grain cravings in the mornings.
here is a batch that lasts me about a week:
grind 2 cups of oatmeal to 'flour' in a blender or coffee grinder
2 cups plain oatmeal.
3 eggs, 1/3 to 1/2 cup oil
2 tablespoons baking powder
2 teaspoons vanilla
3-4 tablespoons sugar
1/2 teaspoon salt.
optional 1 banana diced
milk or water to get batter consistency. --1.5 -2+ cups (I use water or just a little half and half and then water cuz I don't milk so I don't buy it)
You'll have to add more liquid each morning to get the batter pourable.
usually takes 6 minutes in my cheapy target waffle iron.
Posted by: PaleRider at February 22, 2013 05:16 PM (dkExz)
Yeah and like I said a series of improved DIY chem sets and primer mans...
people need to perfect crafting and tinkering as hobby again...fuck we were the best on the planet at it just two generations ago....
I look at it as "liberator pistols" in a jam no?
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:16 PM (LRFds)
I've got a taurus Thundderbolt in .357 Mag and a few other gems....
the Mag bunnies are the market heh....
I did see a "tacti-cool" rig for a 30-30 the other day....
a lever gun with Picatinny all over was "Fascinating" as Spock says
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:18 PM (LRFds)
Also, why did HW sign ADA?
to prove we're nice?
fuck that, embrace the eeeevil. cut spending. oppose new spending
Posted by: the joeindc44 at February 22, 2013 09:02 PM (rQHoF)
I fume about ADA every time I pull up to all those empty Handicapped parking spaces that are in front of every business I patronize. F*ck you George HW Bush.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:18 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Rule #2 at February 22, 2013 05:18 PM (CypDC)
I've got a.30-30 Marlin lever action.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Me too!
except somebody stole it, Eric Himmler
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 22, 2013 05:20 PM (QLJPW)
our cousins have been convinced by the mathusian Death Cult and Marx's bastards to blow their brains out.....
I do not know why the world will not suffer an Englishman....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:20 PM (LRFds)
We really don't have that kind of time.
Not with members of the fed trying to go on record pointing fingers at the rest of the board over QEternity. The end of the scam is close enough to scare them into trying to mold that part of the record now. Your guess is a s good as mine how close that means it is.
Posted by: Methos at February 22, 2013 05:20 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: BignJames at February 22, 2013 05:21 PM (HtUkt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 05:21 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: the joeindc44 at February 22, 2013 09:06 PM (rQHoF)
What I keep sayin... And some people are even getting tired of hearing it. (I'm looking at you JDP.)
The media is a weapon which liberals use against us. We can either try to fight bare handed, or get one of our own... Preferably theirs.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:22 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 09:15 PM (bb5+k)
umm, distilling mouthwash will make it more concentrated but it will also leave behind a lot of the active ingredients in mouthwash that really shouldn't be consumed in high doses, like the antibiotics and whatnot.
distilling mouthwash is a really crappy way to get a buzz. and it's not likely to be worth a whole lot anyway.
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 05:22 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 22, 2013 05:22 PM (MhA4j)
CJ it'll be valuable on a long enough timeline as a medicinal anti-bac if nothing else....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:22 PM (LRFds)
http://www.gizmag.com/neossat/26337/
Probably enboldened by our refusal to treat Celine Dion as the act of war it was.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking beer at February 22, 2013 05:23 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 05:23 PM (bxiXv)
heh...
okay first we need a copy of helicopter Ben and timmy Turbo's ID....then we need to print up a spare trillion "for us"....
rinse repeat
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:24 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at February 22, 2013 05:25 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: steevy at February 22, 2013 05:25 PM (dBYCN)
Yup Ms Dion was definitely the magnifier in the Titanic H Bomb....
we ever do get to have that coffee before I go or when i sell my house later you can hear my Celine Dion/Bill Clinton duet gag....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:25 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Thorvald at February 22, 2013 05:26 PM (1V6Pv)
There is no logical argument to not declare a fatwa on the media....
only ethical and traditional....
FM3-24 and FM 100 both define the US media as an OPFOR Agent by our point of view.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:26 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at February 22, 2013 05:26 PM (ndp2I)
Posted by: steevy at February 22, 2013 09:25 PM (dBYCN)
___________
And here I was scared over nothing.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 22, 2013 05:26 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Icedog at February 22, 2013 09:06 PM (9ScGj)
Icedog, pardon my ignorance but where is Patrick AFB?
Posted by: Tami [/i] at February 22, 2013 05:26 PM (X6akg)
Bob Beckel said on The Five today that the country "will be fine",so no need to worry.
Posted by: steevy at February 22, 2013 09:25 PM (dBYCN)
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Oh, well if that fat commie cocksucking piece of faggot shit says so, then why all the doom?
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 22, 2013 05:27 PM (QLJPW)
Posted by: phoenixgirl spring training is here!!!!! at February 22, 2013 05:27 PM (GVxQo)
Posted by: panzernashorn at February 22, 2013 09:06 PM (MhA4j)
One question. Given that the shape of most magazine springs is somewhat rectangular, is there some maximum width of the spring that would result in a sufficient temperature differential between that section in contact with the plate and that section up in the air to result in an uneven tempering?
I would think that both sides of the spring would need to be heated to insure the same temperature is achieved uniformly.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:27 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: otho at February 22, 2013 05:27 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:28 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Max Entropy at February 22, 2013 05:28 PM (4VbUe)
Also, what is the correct temperature for tempering the spring material?
I know the colors designate different temperatures, but surely there is a specific target temperature?
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:28 PM (bb5+k)
pat AFB is near Cape Canaveral....
it is not a bad billet from what I knew of such things a decade ago...
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:29 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Squamous Muldoon- only skin deep at February 22, 2013 05:29 PM (qqZuQ)
Posted by: PaleRider at February 22, 2013 05:29 PM (dkExz)
I do not know why the world will not suffer an Englishman....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 09:20 PM (LRFds)
God even used to be an Englishman. From Bedazzled (1967)
Stanley Moon: But He is English, isn't He?
George Spiggott: Oh yes. Very upper class.
Now outside of Islam, there isn't much religion or anything else left in old Blighty
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2013 05:30 PM (fTmfD)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 22, 2013 05:30 PM (MhA4j)
it is not a bad billet from what I knew of such things a decade ago...
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 09:29 PM (LRFds)
Ah, thanks sven....well, there ya go Icedog.
Posted by: Tami [/i] at February 22, 2013 05:30 PM (X6akg)
Folk should be looking into that, as well.
Hmm....
Posted by: David Metis at February 22, 2013 09:08 PM (MRyPF)
Watched a video on how they manufactured .22 rimfires the other day. I could possibly do that if given several months of work to set everything up.
I'm currently more concerned about producing fuel and food than I am ammunition, but i'm keeping it in mind.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:31 PM (bb5+k)
people are hot for .22LR and it is a relatively easy round...
I have a Lee progressive loader I don't use enough.....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:32 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: the joeindc44 at February 22, 2013 09:09 PM (rQHoF)
Or at least a simple manufacturing set up.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:32 PM (bb5+k)
Don't use MAP Gas. it's too hot
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 22, 2013 05:33 PM (MhA4j)
'cause I truly believe I can transcend dental medication.
Posted by: Squamous Muldoon- only skin deep at February 22, 2013 09:29 PM (qqZuQ)
=============================================
Bro you got squamous? I had a bad squamous basal mix. They had to knock me out to take it off.
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 22, 2013 05:33 PM (QLJPW)
Who will get the blame then?
Posted by: The littl shyning man at February 22, 2013 09:26 PM (ndp2I)
Bush. The "rich." The "white man." There will always be someone to blame.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's hi-cap assault diaphragm at February 22, 2013 05:34 PM (7xeJQ)
I saw at a big medical trade show, a company that did 3d printing to visualize patient anatomy to help guide surgeons and stuff. The source data was a volume of medical CT images, which they then processed into a CAD file. So essentially anything you can CT scan can be set up for solid printing.
Posted by: Rule #2 at February 22, 2013 09:09 PM (CypDC)
I'm thinking it takes pretty serious X-Rays to penetrate steel magazines. Probably could do something workable just by taking careful measurements of a disassembled magazine.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:34 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 22, 2013 05:35 PM (Q9qpj)
I wonder if there could be a push to make modularly flush fitting but perhaps differently mechanically rigged mags?
I know timing may get fucked up and it'd be a pain but "economies of scale".....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:36 PM (LRFds)
I have maybe 1000 rounds counting everything, some of its old. How much much more do I need?
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 05:36 PM (aAYXM)
If they went the other route, they'd have tostop the checks. But it's the same in real terms. Either still get the check in worthlessdollars, or get no checks.
And that will be an Armaggedon, and no just fearmongering as they're doing with the sequester, talking about a mere 2% cut in the rate of growth. You'll see *real cuts* there in real terms, and not just a mere couple of percent. Heh, heh. It will be weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at February 22, 2013 09:10 PM (Pqgwi)
Again, you are echoing my perception.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:36 PM (bb5+k)
But not tonight. I'm done for tonight.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 22, 2013 05:36 PM (yh0zB)
I did see a "tacti-cool" rig for a 30-30 the other day....
a lever gun with Picatinny all over was "Fascinating" as Spock says
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 09:18 PM (LRFds)
Did it look like this? Because, frankly, I find this pretty stupid looking:
http://www.mossberg.com/product/rifles-lever-action-centerfire-464-spx/41026
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's hi-cap assault diaphragm at February 22, 2013 05:37 PM (7xeJQ)
so is wife God bless her...I couldn't sleep last night after I near bit a telephone pole and she dutifully tried to coax me to sleep....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:37 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 22, 2013 09:33 PM (QLJPW)
*********
I was not referring to squamous cell carcinoma, merely referring to generic squamous cells, aka skin cells, because my beauty is no more than skin deep. Don't try to ascribe any more depth to my comments than that. I am a simple man.
Posted by: Squamous Muldoon- only skin deep at February 22, 2013 05:37 PM (qqZuQ)
Yessir....
damn retarded....
but if it is retarded looking and functional it is good retarded.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:38 PM (LRFds)
http://www.mossberg.com/product/rifles-lever-action-centerfire-464-spx/41026
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's hi-cap assault diaphragm at February 22, 2013 09:37 PM (7xeJQ)
Evil Black Lever-action. I like it, just because it would make Nancy piss herself.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 22, 2013 05:38 PM (yh0zB)
There is a "brazed powdered steel" 3D printer, but none of that is structural. It's just for visual things, art.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 09:12 PM (bxiXv)
Exactly, but i'm thinking that a device which builds objects by building up a weld line of brass might be practical. Electron beam welding is extremely easy to control. It would be a big machine, but it would be able to print objects out of brass.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:39 PM (bb5+k)
All old dead white man stuff, logic and proportion.
Let's go Africa!
No commerce, no civilization, no Christianity.
Let's go Muzzie!
Beheadings! Honor killings! Fatwas! Clitoridectomies! Plural and child-marriages! Slavery!
Let's go Commie-fag-junkie Complex!
Eat the enemy! Eat more mescaline! Swirly colors! MSNBC! All of the above!
Posted by: Thorvald at February 22, 2013 05:39 PM (1V6Pv)
well if you're as bad a shot as most DHS types evidently you only have 3,999,999,000 more to go......
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:40 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 22, 2013 05:40 PM (yh0zB)
.300 Mag is next
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 05:41 PM (aAYXM)
I read a bit about the process a while ago, and it involves hot drawing of tubing and stuff, but no rocket science. I'll look into it in some more detail.
BTW, one of my hobbies lately has been old technical books, preferably pre-1950. They frequently spell out exactly how to do stuff. Todays textbooks, of course, feature full color photos of windmills and electric cars. Yay progress.
Posted by: Rule #2 at February 22, 2013 05:41 PM (CypDC)
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 09:36 PM (aAYXM)
********
It's a simple calculation. Add the total number of zombies you intend to shoot to the number of times you will miss...plus one.
Posted by: Squamous Muldoon- only skin deep at February 22, 2013 05:41 PM (qqZuQ)
You can buy the wire or sheet for making springs from McMaster-Carr, and form the parts cold, by bending or winding. Then you heat it up, quench in oil, and wa-lah it's all springy.
Posted by: Rule #2 at February 22, 2013 09:12 PM (CypDC)
I have several kilns. (Which is, in my opinion, a better way to get a precise temperature before quenching.) To what temperature do you have to get?
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:41 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: [s]Landshark[/s] Candygram at February 22, 2013 05:42 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Thorvald at February 22, 2013 05:42 PM (1V6Pv)
Thought about a computer science degree from NCSU about 15 years ago when that program was hot hot. Then discovered it was in their engineering school. I quickly banished THAT fucking idea.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 22, 2013 05:42 PM (4Mv1T)
yeah well it looked lonely....
you know how it is....
told the boss as I left for home...you need me you call it's idiots on ice out there boss....
and he asked "how many idiots?"
and I winked and said "at least one"
I must be getting old, because I've gone through a windshield and worried less....
having a kid really does change your world.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:42 PM (LRFds)
Was hoping we had at least one Florida moron on...Posted by: Icedog at February 22, 2013 05:42 PM (9ScGj)
How do you dispose of old ammo?
Anyone interested in buying old ammo?
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 05:43 PM (aAYXM)
This is an unsolvable equation. You can never have enough. You can only have as much as you can buy.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 22, 2013 05:44 PM (4Mv1T)
Yes sir...
no seriously bang the f*8k on friend....
in a lot of ways we can't hold our grandparents/parents' jock straps...
we need to make ourselves better to outcompete these motherfuckers these poor kids are programmed to not compete as hard.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:44 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2013 08:36 PM (IDSI7)
Wow that is nuts. I thought it was common knowledge that you just assume that a raccoon is carrying rabies. Better safe than sorry...
Posted by: A Romp of Otters at February 22, 2013 05:44 PM (9ZAcB)
It depend son the ammo...
I fired some 1930s ammo through my 6.5 Swede the other day....stored properly "damn near forever"
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:45 PM (LRFds)
Why not just buy sugar and yeast?
Posted by: BignJames at February 22, 2013 09:21 PM (HtUkt)
I would advise you do that as well. My point was to take advantage of what money you have to trade it for something that other people might not think is tradeable, while your money is still worth something.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:46 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at February 22, 2013 05:46 PM (ndp2I)
I was not referring to squamous cell carcinoma, merely referring to generic squamous cells, aka skin cells, because my beauty is no more than skin deep. Don't try to ascribe any more depth to my comments than that. I am a simple man.
Posted by: Squamous Muldoon- only skin deep at February 22, 2013 09:37 PM (qqZuQ)
==============================================
Well, I did appreciate the segue from "Seamus" to "Squamous", even if we're not fellow cancer travellers.
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 22, 2013 05:46 PM (QLJPW)
My wife disagrees
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 05:46 PM (aAYXM)
http://tinyurl.com/a77o2w9
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 22, 2013 05:47 PM (yh0zB)
Well i am not a sunshiner, but I grew up at Wright-Patt which had a lot of ParaRescue cycle through and they have a rescue unit down yonder....
you know I was an infantryman who dreamed of being a ranger and never got the chance.....the Ranger types who weren't special weapons guys were wiry and endurance driven....
those PJs are built like robocop and are functionally PAs in skill set....
I have a deep abiding respect for their devotion to duty and skills.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:47 PM (LRFds)
distilling mouthwash is a really crappy way to get a buzz. and it's not likely to be worth a whole lot anyway.
Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at February 22, 2013 09:22 PM (cnS/d)
Not sure what you are getting at. The ethyl alcohol will evaporate and leave behind all that other crap as residue. It is the alcohol which you are distilling out.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:48 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: [s]Landshark[/s] Candygram at February 22, 2013 05:48 PM (piMMO)
I have some, especially the .300 mag and the .44 mag that has green on the brass cases.
Fairly certain it would not damage the gun etc, but I just want to get rid of it.
Safely
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 05:50 PM (aAYXM)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 09:23 PM (bxiXv)
In my opinion, this is where we have been needing to concentrate our firepower for a very long time. The Media gave us Bill Clinton by savaging Bush on economics for a year leading up to the election.
They've been doing this dog and pony show for a long time, and it's long past time for us to have shot both their dog and pony.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:50 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Icedog at February 22, 2013 05:51 PM (9ScGj)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 09:42 PM (LRFds)
truest of words.
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 05:51 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Ronster at February 22, 2013 05:51 PM (dBayF)
Posted by: Red Shirt at February 22, 2013 05:51 PM (FIDMq)
Call your FD or trusted Law Enforcement that said I'd have a gunsmith look at it....
you can clean the ammo's exterior but if the primer has lost integrity it is inert ammo that will not ignite but can still fire if heat is applied past the ignition point.
Be safe.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:52 PM (LRFds)
That's it. The only thing.
Who will get the blame then?
Posted by: The littl shyning man at February 22, 2013 09:26 PM (ndp2I)
Much insight in this analysis.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:52 PM (bb5+k)
.22LR is a rimfire round that is about the size of your thumbnail...
.22WMR is the precursor to the .222/.223/.224 varmint rounds and is a centerfire round about as long as half a pinky.....
I'll whistle up links
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:53 PM (LRFds)
And so does mine. Like I said. As much as you can buy.
Last week my wife said, "You've got ENOUGH ammunition".
Pfft. Yea. Like that's even possible.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 22, 2013 05:53 PM (4Mv1T)
Yes eventually you will be able to buy ammo again, the ammo manufacturers are in the interesting position of either buying more equipment and hiring more people to meet a demand that might not be sustained or not be able to meet the market demands. Right now there's a lot of panic buying, will it last? Time will tell, the ammo manufacturers will either take a chance to make a capital investment to be able to ramp up production or they will not, there's a lot of variables in doing it.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 22, 2013 05:54 PM (yh0zB)
Up to a million rounds a day.
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 22, 2013 09:28 PM (MhA4j)
Yes, that's the one.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 05:54 PM (bb5+k)
You figure the final set of explosion in the information age will take ~18-`96 hours depending on what days it starts on....
I suspect at best we have a decade, and at worst about 3 years.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:54 PM (LRFds)
alternatives that are *honest* first and foremost, to show what it's
like when people are honest - because news viewers have never seen it.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 22, 2013 09:23 PM (bxiXv)
In my opinion, this is where we have been needing to concentrate our firepower for a very long time. The Media gave us Bill Clinton by savaging Bush on economics for a year leading up to the election.
They've been doing this dog and pony show for a long time, and it's long past time for us to have shot both their dog and pony.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 09:50 PM (bb5+k)
I can remember reading when i first came online politically The dems/left were terrified when i read their old posts. of Bush administration and (whatever war etc)and what He was doing, how far he would go, Civil Rights OMG!. And the distrust of the media, was right There for them.
now everything the media says is shiny for their team spirit, so they don't look twice at what they are being feed.
they just swallow.
it's crazy!
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 05:56 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 09:50 PM (aAYXM)
Bullet puller, dump the powder, trash the whole thing.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 22, 2013 05:56 PM (yh0zB)
I did it once to make a flat spring from 1074 steel sheet. I just heated it up to a dull red in my woodstove, but I've read that the temp should be about 1500F.
Posted by: Rule #2 at February 22, 2013 05:57 PM (CypDC)
shakes head...
.22Mag is most likely .22WMR which is the "most macho rimfire currently in use"...
my mistake
http://www.ssarmory.com/ammunitionmanufacturingequipment.aspx
I confused it with the wildcat .22 Hornet
apologies
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 05:57 PM (LRFds)
Not sure, but that may be from moisture. I've got ammo that old, no problem, but I kept it in an air conditioned house. But I had my guns in a safe in the workroom in the garage that got a little moisture underneath, and the brass rivets in my leather holsters got the green slime like that. But the guns showed no sign of corrosion, so I don't know.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 22, 2013 05:58 PM (4Mv1T)
515: It is really falling apart. It's just not a nice and clean to fit in a 2hr movie.
A hundred years from now, when the history of this time is written (and who will be writing that history is a good question), it can be told in a nice narrative, and there will be some point where you can say, "Here, the final collapse started". But those of us living through it won't know.
Conside the history of the Great Depression and WWII. Did any of those living at the time know when all the turning points and points of no return were reached? No. Same with us now.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at February 22, 2013 05:59 PM (Pqgwi)
sorry, i have nothing to contribute, but wanted to stay involved.
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 05:59 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Ronster at February 22, 2013 05:59 PM (dBayF)
Or "you have to sell one before you buy another" gun.
So far I am doing fine, I buy and never sell, but I have to constantly invent new ways to sell the story...
Now the price of what I want is 4k, up from 2k. Prices will likely drop back down.
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 06:00 PM (aAYXM)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 22, 2013 06:02 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: the joeindc44 at February 22, 2013 06:04 PM (rQHoF)
Think I would rather fire them. The gun is not going to blow up, but I might blow my head off trying to pull it :-)
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 06:04 PM (aAYXM)
http://tinyurl.com/bgcqddx
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 22, 2013 10:02 PM (yh0zB)
oh i refer to things that look that way to shabby chic
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 06:05 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at February 22, 2013 09:59 PM (Pqgwi)
When did the Great Depression really start, seems most point to Black Tuesday, but Im sure the ball was rolling before that, right? So is it going to be a festering, puss filled slow spread type death, or violent and sudden crashorama?
Posted by: Red Shirt at February 22, 2013 06:05 PM (FIDMq)
Yes!
Now some folks are perfectly comfortable with using .22WMR in Mauser actioned bolt guns but I would NOT do so for 2 reasons....
1) the dimensions of the cases ARE different
2) why? I mean really why risk it based on pressure tolerances and such...the performance gain is there but if you are in an application needing the .22WMR bite the bullet and go .22 hornet or .222/.223 IMHO....
check out the SAAMI pressure and follow your bore instructions and if a new bore is on an old action your receiver instructions IMHO....
the most common current .22WMR application is in Lever guns and the PMR-30 from kel tec....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 06:05 PM (LRFds)
I love cedar chests...
those ma'am were applications of technology and chemistry for better living of a bygone era....
didn't mean to bore you going GI Joe honest injun'...
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 06:07 PM (LRFds)
When did the Great Depression really start, seems most point to Black Tuesday, but Im sure the ball was rolling before that, right? So is it going to be a festering, puss filled slow spread type death, or violent and sudden crashorama?
Posted by: Red Shirt at February 22, 2013 10:05 PM (FIDMq)
no idea.
But i do know Russian plans started way before gulags were actually committed to.
the push was through 1890s or so until?
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 06:08 PM (nqBYe)
didn't mean to bore you going GI Joe honest injun'...
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 10:07 PM (LRFds)
not bored, although it is greek like. to me
still i know this is valuable information that is flying right over my pointy head.
and wish it wasn't
i have to bing every other comment
Posted by: ette at February 22, 2013 06:09 PM (nqBYe)
You ever have a question there's a bunch of us here to answer and don't be embarassed and dear God don't take any free advice as gospel....
my ~40ish memory must be going b/c I really screwed up on that .22 magnum answer...
I'm embarrassed.....
we're all on the same team here at scenic Moron Center....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 06:13 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: toby928© at February 22, 2013 06:19 PM (QupBk)
I have at least a dozen weapons and want to make sure they all work, plus buying a nice shotgun and shooting skeet or trap would be fun, so outdoor range of course.
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 06:19 PM (aAYXM)
Posted by: occam at February 22, 2013 06:20 PM (n4jAD)
Thats why I don't click on urls or tiny links, etc.
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 06:21 PM (aAYXM)
Posted by: toby928© at February 22, 2013 06:23 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: toby928© at February 22, 2013 06:24 PM (QupBk)
One of the biggest misconceptions people have of these things is that the day of the collapse is the thing. So they ask "What might we have done differently that day or the day before to avoid it?"
The truth is that the ramp of the market/economy on margin is what made the collapse possible. So if you're looking for a general cause, check when it became easier to "invest" with borrowed money and see which of those changes was made most irresponsibly. For the coming crash, you might look at the Kanjorsky hearing after which "Mark to Market" accounting rules got tossed. But that was done to arrest a collapse in progress-i.e. maintain a previous false status quo, so you can argue the cause for what's coming was earlier.
Of course if you think about our monetary system, not from the "Fed is a false idol, hence evil" angle, but just a matter of how exponents work, you'd realize that a system based on loaning money into existence must either have fairly frequent bankruptcies of the primary dealers (those who get money directly from the Fed) or it must ultimately collapse into a singularity with no money in existence and the Fed claiming a right to collateral of some kind.
Posted by: Methos at February 22, 2013 06:28 PM (hO9ad)
that's right production is just a fucking habit and price structure just a random guess...
look either everything about the engine that has fueled progress over the last 400 years is wrong or Bambi and buds are just jerking off to wreck the machine on purpose....
I know my analysis....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 06:28 PM (LRFds)
it is the practical application of disciplined action to achieve a measurable purpose....
plus the weapon sings to me when I am in the zone.....
Twinkle and Elizabeth Anne are good gals.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 06:32 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 06:34 PM (aAYXM)
Is there an Army Field Manual on how to bring down a government? Just to see if we're doing it right. There's 'counter insurgency' so how about one for 'insurgency'?
Ya, I know, first you need to control a media outlet, or underground media....
uh. ya, so there's that .
...an you need money.....or a sugar daddy.
Uh..I think I see a problem.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 22, 2013 06:36 PM (/NyEC)
Yes....sorta....
you want to read 'em I can show 'em to you.
The concept you need to ponder is reverse engineering red Teams' best plays....
and you do not "need' a sugar daddy so much as you need will and fitness to purpose.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 06:38 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 06:41 PM (aAYXM)
Kinda banhammer bait if ace is in a bad mood, though I see from your comment you're referring to what the Left has already done to us.
That said, my joking response is
No, the CIA writes those.
Posted by: Methos at February 22, 2013 06:43 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: ThereAre5 at February 22, 2013 06:46 PM (aAYXM)
I have posted in depth analysis of Fm 3-24, FM 1 and 200 on the matter of insurgency, CoIn....
I am the guy that pretty much laughed my ass off at the AWC Col who was wanking to "the Teahadist/KKK take Darlington Hooah" Lib Porn with a detailed and structured doctrinal thesis.....
point is this land is built for Insurgency....
I don't want it, and will never start it but facts are facts.
We won this nation through alternating In/CoIn work.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 06:57 PM (LRFds)
well rewrote them anyway....
I'd posit that the USMC and OSS wrote 'em YMMV....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollback
all of this has happened before....all of this will happen again...and again....and again
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 06:59 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: BuddyPC at February 23, 2013 05:06 AM (jfUIE)
it warms my heart to read all the grief Hollowpoint is getting these days, he deserves every bit of it and more.
he and his ilk are a big part of why we are doomed.
confronted with logic he resorts to emotion, generally anger, even though he knows that magic isn't real he still clings to it and attempts to slander or mock anyone who doesn't agree with him.
he is not concerned with the fate of the nation or anyone in it but himself and his precious notions of normalcy.
if he were a passenager on the Titanic he would yell "All is well! this ship is unsinkable!"
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"A Digital Shift on Health Data Swells Profits in an Industry" http://nyti.ms/WO91dy
Note the reader comments by a whole lot of angry physicians, nurses and patients.
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