July 02, 2013

Update on Sonoma Cross Incident
— Ace

@moxiemom doesn't like the War on Higher Ed meme and draws my attention to the college's president's statement, which I honestly hadn't read.

She is right, though: this seems like a fairly fulsome confession of error.


University spokeswoman Susan Kashack confirmed to Fox News that the incident occurred and expressed extreme regret.

“Someone who works here was concerned that the cross might be off-putting to students who are coming to campus for the first time,” she said, adding that the supervisor was “completely wrong.”

“It was absolutely an inappropriate action for him to make that request of her,” she said.

Kashack said Sonoma State President Ruben Arminana was “angered” by the incident and they are trying to contact Jarvis so they can apologize.

“The president was very upset about it and asked me to contact Miss Jarvis and give a profuse apology,” she said.

Well, you can't really offer much beyond a profuse apology, or branding the request "absolutely inappropriate."

However -- I was wrong not to include that (my eyes had glazed over before I read down that far), but it still seems to me that there's something wrong here.

That is, when someone establishes guidelines -- wait, let's think about a guideline. A guideline, literally, is a guide for keeping you on the path. It keeps you from going off into the woods and ditches on either side, right?

Now, if you're explaining a guideline to your underlings, and you mostly teach them how to avoid going off the left side of the path, that is, now not to offend those on the left, and do not spend much time at all telling them how to avoid the ditch on the right side (the individual liberty side), well, a stupid underling, having heard mostly about avoiding the ditch on the left side, is going to go too far over on the right side, because all this idiot is thinking is "avoid crossing the left."

Any rule for keeping behavior on a straight path must contain two lines, as two lines mark a path, right? The left boundary and the right boundary. (Sorry to keep on this metaphor but it's useful.) If this universities just talk about the left boundary all day, and don't give their Idiot Employees (who are largely lefties in the first place) careful instruction about the right boundary, we're going to have idiots crossing the right boundary all the time. The right boundary hasn't been sufficiently demarked for them, and, being Stupid as F*ck, that means they're going to be traipsing off into the deep woods unless you afford them the sort of serious minding you'd give to a baby who just learned how to toddle.

@moxiemom is right that the college president certainly seems to be effusive in her apology, but I wonder if this college president has thought about the natural consequences of a very one-sided guideline for university personnel behavior, a guideline that is focused constantly on PC crap and rarely speaks at all to the individual liberties of individual students. A guideline that talks all day about "not offending other students" but does not then lay down the other side of the line, that students have a basic right to express themselves even if some very sensitive idiots might be offended by this expression.

I don't think that latter idea was communicated to this moron. And that is on the college. And in fact that is on almost every college.

They have created an environment in which Emotion and Censorship, rather than Reason and Expression, are the king and queen of the ivory tower. And the stupid, ass-kissing courtiers will follow the lead of the king and queen they wish to impress.

Posted by: Ace at 10:15 AM | Comments (320)
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1 So, bottom line - there's a new thread coming?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at July 02, 2013 10:17 AM (Vgn84)

2 They got caught and they're using the same bullshit "low level employee" excuse again.

Posted by: EC at July 02, 2013 10:18 AM (GQ8sn)

3

So ace, you're saying "wrong but accurate" about your own post?

 

*ducks*

Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 02, 2013 10:18 AM (sQ0LB)

4 Apologies in cases like this are best observed in a steep financial judgment against the perp. Goose, meet gander.

Posted by: George Orwell cowering before Van Helsing's crucifix at July 02, 2013 10:19 AM (mCNwt)

5 Sounds like bad Customer Service to me.

Posted by: garrett at July 02, 2013 10:19 AM (IKa7V)

6 I say we don't care that she apologized. It should never have happened.

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 02, 2013 10:19 AM (El+h4)

7 They're always so very, very sorry when a light is shined on their actions. If FNC hadn't reported it, they would not be sorry.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at July 02, 2013 10:20 AM (7ObY1)

8

OCALA, Fla., July 2, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Florida State's Attorney Angela Corey has been indicted by a citizens' grand jury, convening in Ocala, Florida, over the alleged falsification of the arrest warrant and complaint that lead to George Zimmerman being charged with the second degree murder of African-American teenager Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida.

The indictment of Corey, which was handed down last week (see www.citizensgrandjury.com), charges Corey with intentionally withholding photographic evidence of the injuries to George Zimmerman's head in the warrant she allegedly rushed to issue under oath, in an effort to boost her reelection prospects. At the outset of this case, black activists such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who whipped up wrath against Zimmerman, demanded that he be charged with murder, after local police had thus far declined to arrest him pending investigation.

 

What does this mean ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 02, 2013 10:20 AM (nTgAI)

9 >>> So ace, you're saying "wrong but accurate" about your own post?

nah it's a muddle.  I was wrong not to include that statement and it is pretty vigorously confessional.  One can't fault it.

And yet there still is an underlying culture that causes all of these errors *to fall in exactly the same direction.* 

Maybe we should examine this underlying culture of PC control.

Posted by: ace at July 02, 2013 10:20 AM (/IWYB)

10 If this universities just talk about the left boundary all day What exactly is the "left boundary"?

Posted by: EC at July 02, 2013 10:20 AM (GQ8sn)

11 This whole story is jus' retardit, suh.

Posted by: Dee Dee at July 02, 2013 10:21 AM (7ObY1)

12 >>>Any rule for keeping behavior on a straight path must contain two lines, as two lines mark a path, right? The left boundary and the right boundary. Ace has a beautiful mind. I mean that in a totally non-creepy, non stalkerish way.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at July 02, 2013 10:21 AM (q177U)

13 I still think this is a walkback.  A supposedly low level person would not take it upon themselves to establish policy on what offends people.  At some point that person was told what might be offensive and ran with it.  But they did not just make it up all on their own.

Posted by: Johnnyreb at July 02, 2013 10:21 AM (6McTJ)

14 If FNC hadn't reported it, they would not be sorry. If FNC hadn't reported it they would be persecuting the woman with full bureaucratic alacrity.

Posted by: George Orwell cowering before Van Helsing's crucifix at July 02, 2013 10:21 AM (mCNwt)

15 Telling someone to remove their cross is a dick move. I don't care who you are. And if she's hot that means he likes milky loads.

Posted by: eleven at July 02, 2013 10:22 AM (KXm42)

16

Insightful post .  Unfortunately, going over the right guideline means getting your socks a little damp when it should mean getting eaten by bears.   Now is a good time as any, so bon appetit.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 02, 2013 10:23 AM (VLifP)

17 Ace has a beautiful mind. I mean that in a totally non-creepy, non stalkerish way. That's So Ace.

Posted by: eleven at July 02, 2013 10:23 AM (KXm42)

18 Telling someone to remove their cross is a dick move.

I don't care who you are.


And if she's hot that means he likes milky loads.

Posted by: eleven at July 02, 2013 02:22 PM (KXm42)

 

Astute observation

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 02, 2013 10:23 AM (nTgAI)

19 Foreign accent quack up on the stand in Zim trial.

Posted by: UWP at July 02, 2013 10:23 AM (r98SZ)

20 *crickets*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 02, 2013 10:23 AM (GQ72I)

21 What does this mean ? *** Nothing. It is a "citizen's" grand jury.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 02, 2013 10:23 AM (jjvz+)

22 this is the least of my walkbacks.

That Bishop Beheading story might not just be false, but a deliberate propaganda effort by Assad.

That's coming up.

You know what I'm having for lunch?  Shit, that's what.


Posted by: ace at July 02, 2013 10:24 AM (/IWYB)

23 Any bets on this being the first time this staffer or others there had done this?  If the event gets publicized enough at that school who would be surprised at more students coming forward?

Posted by: buzzion at July 02, 2013 10:24 AM (LI48c)

24 And if the situation wouldn't have been publicized there would have been no apology at all.

Posted by: Ken Royall at July 02, 2013 10:24 AM (csm7B)

25 The offender should be punished.

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 02, 2013 10:24 AM (nTgAI)

26 workers should be allowed to wear whatever they wish Celtic Cross Maltese cross Iron Cross or the crooked cross.

Posted by: occam at July 02, 2013 10:24 AM (4+lE0)

27 Agreed and upset = recognition of really bad PR. I'm not seeing that anyone in the school administration actually recognizes that students "offended" by a cross necklace should just go fuck themselves. If you wet yourself at the mere sight of the jewelry of your ideological/religious differs, then you obviously aren't celebrating diversity.

Posted by: wooga at July 02, 2013 10:25 AM (h5lu9)

28 We're called unpeople for a reason.

Posted by: Unpeople of Jesusland at July 02, 2013 10:25 AM (BrQrN)

29 What does this mean ?

***

Nothing.

It is a "citizen's" grand jury.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 02, 2013 02:23 PM (jjvz+)

 

Thanks NDH. That's what I figured

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 02, 2013 10:25 AM (nTgAI)

30 Well, you can't really offer much beyond a profuse apology, or branding the request "absolutely inappropriate."

You could also take steps to prevent it from happening again.  But why bother, when no one expects you to do anything more than feel bad that it happened?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at July 02, 2013 10:25 AM (/kI1Q)

31 Actually, you make a good point about the culture.  But I couldn't pass up a somewhat decent chance to bust your stones.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 02, 2013 10:25 AM (sQ0LB)

32 That Bishop Beheading story might not just be false, but a deliberate propaganda effort by Assad.

I thought the Vatican confirmed the martyrdom.  No?

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 10:25 AM (codCi)

33 Any rule for keeping behavior on a straight path must contain two lines, as two lines mark a path, right? The left boundary and the right boundary.

I really, really love this analogy.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 02, 2013 10:25 AM (B/VB5)

34 How does TB3K's ass taste, occam?

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 02, 2013 10:26 AM (Kppp9)

35 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:26 AM (/PCJa)

36 You know what I'm having for lunch? Shit, that's what. That's So Ace.

Posted by: eleven at July 02, 2013 10:26 AM (KXm42)

37 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:26 AM (/PCJa)

38 That Bishop Beheading story might not just be false, but a deliberate propaganda effort by Assad.

The John McCain Ladies Auxiliary has claimed other things they did and then discovered might offend Americans to be the work of Assad too.  Don't retract quite yet.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 02, 2013 10:26 AM (B/VB5)

39 Graduated from this College many moons ago. It is in a very liberal County.Moonbats everywhere... Doesn't surprise me in the least...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 02, 2013 10:26 AM (9+ccr)

40 They have created an environment in which Emotion and Censorship, rather than Reason and Expression, are the king and queen of the ivory tower.

...but remember who they think hates science.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at July 02, 2013 10:27 AM (/kI1Q)

41 29 Heather Radish,

Quite, and I'm sorry it is too many examples on too many campuses.

The Higher Ed people either need to surrender their bias and aid to just the left or they need made examples of.

This "two nations in if not word deed" crap has got to end.

The academy will be easier to house break before the media.

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 10:27 AM (LRFds)

42 Your post makes me sand and offended. You need to be purged you evil oppressor!!1!

Posted by: Social Science Graduate Student at July 02, 2013 10:27 AM (XvHmy)

43 Sonoma County is a White Refuge, layered with Hippie-White semi-stoners and normal ordinary White people, with almost no non-Whites once you get out of the towns along 101.


Like New Hampshire, without the six months of Freezing Hell every Winter

Posted by: Jerry S. ( retired comedian ) at July 02, 2013 10:27 AM (omBWL)

44 ...but remember who they think hates science.

if (year > 1980) temp += exp(year-1980);

Posted by: Highly Scientific Climate Model Code at July 02, 2013 10:28 AM (B/VB5)

45 They have created an environment in which Emotion and Censorship, rather than Reason and Expression, are the king and queen of the ivory tower. And the stupid, ass-kissing courtiers will follow the lead of the king and queen they wish to impress. This. The President is apologizing because they got caught. The culture of the university is such that this "low level staffer" believed she would not be disciplined for asking a Christian to remove her religious iconography- how did she come to that belief?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:28 AM (/PCJa)

46
It sure sounds apologetic. Yet it makes no mention of a promise that it will never happen again.

Here's the thing: These academics a) believe that signs of Christianity are offensive, and b) know damn well that asking a person to remove said signs are inappropriate.

That won't stop them, however, from making these "requests" in the future. They'll continue to do it until they wear us out. That's how the Left do.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 02, 2013 10:28 AM (xIzGn)

47 8 the jackhole,

http://tinyurl.com/lxecptb

Lunacy...

which is of course what the State wants....

if the Martins get to bring the crazy others will want in on the fun.

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 10:29 AM (LRFds)

48 "fulsome" doesn't mean full.

Posted by: pedantic douche at July 02, 2013 10:29 AM (REcq5)

49 Given the leftist history of academia in this country I would still like to fart in their general direction and bid them a good day...bless their hearts.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 02, 2013 10:29 AM (jvd3N)

50 Didn't Obama make similar statements following the IRS revelations?

I'm with AllenG, and others. They got caught, and are tossing underlings under the bus as quickly as possible.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 02, 2013 10:29 AM (0IhFx)

51

The culture of the university is such that this "low level staffer" believed she would not be disciplined for asking a Christian to remove her religious iconography- how did she come to that belief?

 

OhOhOh!

 

*raises hand*

Posted by: Unpeople of Jesusland at July 02, 2013 10:29 AM (BrQrN)

52 I noted in the dead thread that the students at SSU are much more normal than the faculty and staff.  They suffer mostly in silence, then graduate to live normal lives.


don't throw out the Baby with the Bath Water, as the old folks used to say

Posted by: Jerry S. ( retired comedian ) at July 02, 2013 10:29 AM (omBWL)

53 >>>"fulsome" doesn't mean full. -- pedantic douche

I'm going to correct you and say that your correction isn't pedantic or douchey.  The word is so wrong (now that I look it up!) that it's embarrassing and I really do need to change it.

Thanks.  I honestly did not know the meaning of it.  I thought I did, but I didn't.


Posted by: ace at July 02, 2013 10:30 AM (/IWYB)

54 I have the right to offend others, and to be offended by others.  I do not have a right    to receive redress for my being offended, nor    do others.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 02, 2013 10:31 AM (QPogr)

55 I know not reading the posts is a thing, but posters not reading the articles the posts are based on? That's a new high-water mark.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 02, 2013 10:31 AM (ZshNr)

56
...the college president certainly seems to be effusive in her apology




Sonoma State President Ruben Arminana

Ruben with a beard Ruben

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 02, 2013 10:31 AM (kdS6q)

57 wait, you're wrong actually -- definition 2 is "generous or abundant" which is what I thought it meant. Ample, flowing. 

So fuck you buddy.

(j/k.)

Posted by: ace at July 02, 2013 10:31 AM (/IWYB)

58 but posters not reading the articles the posts are based on? That's a new high-water mark.

Dood.  It might be London Boys, or worse.  I let the adventurous report back.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 10:32 AM (codCi)

59 You know what I'm having for lunch? Shit, that's what.


Posted by: ace at July 02, 2013 02:24 PM (/IWYB)



You should join the Army with a reserve commission.  Many Shit Sandwiches you will eat....

Posted by: Jerry S. ( retired comedian ) at July 02, 2013 10:32 AM (omBWL)

60 You could also take steps to prevent it from happening again. But why bother, when no one expects you to do anything more than feel bad that it happened? This. Oh so very, "this." The whole point of the apology is to make this "go away." If the President really felt contrite, they would say, "The supervisor involved is being disciplined according to university guidelines*, and we will be holding classes on acceptance religious diversity and expression- including Christian expression- to make sure this never happens again." Which is exactly what they'd say (sans the "Christian" part) if this had been a Muslim girl, for instance. *- It IS an internal HR issue, they really can't just say, "And she's being fired."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:33 AM (/PCJa)

61 Pedantic douche was wrong; fulsome was correctly used.

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 02, 2013 10:33 AM (Kppp9)

62 All's I know is that sometimes lusty lasses are referred to as fulsome in older lit. That's good enough for me.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 02, 2013 10:33 AM (ZshNr)

63

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 02, 2013 02:23 PM (jjvz+)

 

What *is* a citizen's grand jury as opposed to a regular grand jury?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at July 02, 2013 10:33 AM (D8tPj)

64 "fulsome" doesn't mean full.
Posted by: pedantic douche

That prison looked full to me,  fucker.

Posted by: Johnny Cash at July 02, 2013 10:34 AM (Hx2XA)

65 Man, the prosecution's forensic pathologist was discredited by the first question from the defense. Not that I'm surprised. What were the question and answer?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:34 AM (/PCJa)

66 "oh I'm stuck in fulsome prison, time keeps dragging on".... 

Posted by: Zombie Johnny Cash at July 02, 2013 10:34 AM (GQ72I)

67 Kashack said Sonoma State President Ruben Arminana was “angered” by the incident and they are trying to contact Jarvis so they can apologize. “The president was very upset about it and asked me to contact Miss Jarvis and give a profuse apology,” she said. Bull. Shit. If you are very upset about it, you call the person yourself. As someone who has been an assistant for many people over many years, trust me, I know the gradations of apology. Please call person X and tell them we are sorry for thing Y is in a different category altogether from please get person X on the phone and then I will apologize to her. This isn't an apology, this is spin, pure and simple. They got caught. They are fucked legally. They are trying to walk it back. Your pathway example is spot on. Years and years and years ago I got appointed to a diversity committee in law school, mainly because the prof who put my name in for the position had a wicked sense of humor, and I used to constantly point out all the things that offended me. Let's just say the precious darlings on the committee hated being held to their own standards. Speaking of holding people to their own standards, I do believe that now that the reasonable person standard for sexual harassment on college campuses has been eliminated, it's time for the Right to go off to the races. Make the Left explain why someone on the Right being pissed off by the Vagina Monologues is ridiculous. You know, for epic lulz.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 02, 2013 10:34 AM (VtjlW)

68 The problem is the pre-emptive censorship, the idea that other students "might" be offended, that these special snowflakes must be protected from anything even remotely offended. this is worse than having a student complain and acting on it.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 02, 2013 10:35 AM (2mSdf)

69 Yeah like fulsome breasteses.

Posted by: eleven at July 02, 2013 10:35 AM (KXm42)

70

As Gilda Rander used to say...Nevermind...

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 02, 2013 10:35 AM (PihNI)

71 62 Polli Wog the ette,

Citizen's Grand Jury is to law

as lynch mob is to cop

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 10:36 AM (LRFds)

72 Some day all these poor old hippies will have to retire. And where will they go? To Hippieland, of course.

Posted by: Mr Pee Pee at July 02, 2013 10:36 AM (DrC22)

73 Folsom Prison, moneybags.

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 02, 2013 10:36 AM (El+h4)

74
why not just use 'superfluous' like a normal human bean?

Posted by: soothsayer at July 02, 2013 10:37 AM (Y4TdB)

75 Some day all these poor old hippies will have to retire. And where will they go?

Into the smokehouse with the rest of them, SMOD willing.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 10:37 AM (codCi)

76 Something to the effect of "Weren't you appointed to your position by the person that heads up the prosecution's office?"She tried to dance around it but the answer was, in effect, Yes. Oh, meh. I thought it would be something like, "As a practicing physician, would you ever base treatment of traumatic wounds on still photos?" Because the answer to that is "no."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:37 AM (/PCJa)

77 73 Some day all these poor old hippies will have to retire. And where will they go? To Hippieland, of course. Posted by: Mr Pee Pee at July 02, 2013 02:36 PM (DrC22) I live in this County and it is Hippieland. Some still have Kucinich for President bumper stickers on their cars, not to mention Ralph Nader...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 02, 2013 10:37 AM (9+ccr)

78 some of You People apparently ain't been to a college campus lately;  this sort of sh*t is par for the course, as the old golfers used to say


only a ripple in the stagnant pond....

Posted by: Jerry S. ( retired comedian ) at July 02, 2013 10:37 AM (omBWL)

79

Exactly. Don't care.

If this were a Muslim student who had been offended, the Obama Party and the left would be screaming for seven-figure financial settlements, firings, mandatory "diversity" training for all employees in the state university system, etc.

Conservatives need to take the regulatory state the Obama Party has built and use it to choke them. Every single dumb requirement, every single imbecile rule, every single mandatory this and that and whatever and force them all to sit through it.

Liberals do what they do because their only thought is that someone else will have to follow the rules they create. Force them to live under their own regimes of terror, and play back their shrieks of how what they're being forced to do was "necessary.

Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at July 02, 2013 10:37 AM (VcVIw)

80

Guidelines based on not "giving offense" are bullshit in the first place.

Freedom of speech explicitly means the freedom to offend (and be offended).

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at July 02, 2013 10:37 AM (SCcgT)

81 Citzengrandjury is the name of a blog. Sadly this is not an official government indictment of the Florida Atty Gen.

Posted by: [/i] [/b] [/u] [/s] An Observation at July 02, 2013 10:38 AM (ylhEn)

82 Sadly this is not an official government indictment of the Florida Atty Gen. That is sad. She needs to do jail-time.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:38 AM (/PCJa)

83 What does this mean ? She acted stupidly?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 02, 2013 10:38 AM (r+LsT)

84

wish this had come out during the baseball season; the catcalls from the stands directed at the Seawolves would've been much more entertaining.....

Posted by: the Butcher at July 02, 2013 10:40 AM (8g9qq)

85 No it means that if Justice4Traybon types engage in violence it is probably not gonna be a 1 way street...


Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 10:40 AM (LRFds)

86 Make the Left explain why someone on the Right being pissed off by the Vagina Monologues is ridiculous. You know, for epic lulz.

Or simply stage a production of the Penis Monologues, with dialogue supplied by Moron Nation.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 02, 2013 10:40 AM (B/VB5)

87 it was obvious that she was going out of her way to minimize GZ's injuries.

Injuries she never examined.  We have already had the testamony of the EMT and the NP that treated Jorge in person.

It's all very odd.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 10:40 AM (codCi)

88 yeah, 'hello it's me', everyone should spend a day in Sebastopol, watching the aging hippies shuffle by.  They live in 600k houses which were worth 900k a few years ago, but life is still easy and Good.


very little crime and amazingly good weather, but much ennui.  Ennui here, ennui there, ennui everywhere...

Posted by: Jerry S. ( retired comedian ) at July 02, 2013 10:40 AM (omBWL)

89 Well it was a much bigger 'Boom' moment because even before the defense got up, it was obvious that she was going out of her way to minimize GZ's injuries. Maybe I'm just cynical, but I wouldn't expect anything else. And who appointed her isn't all that relevant to my mind. On the other hand, getting her to admit that everything she just said went almost 100% against her training- that would be "bombshell" territory.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:40 AM (/PCJa)

90

  The fact that Ace and other conservative/right leaning outlets correct their errors or omissions as soon as they learn of them shows me just how valuable and important the new media are......

  Well done Ace.   

 

  I'd ad a Sean Hannity "You are a great American" but I want to c-punch people when I hear that phrase for some reason....   

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at July 02, 2013 10:41 AM (/PJ/D)

91 You know what offends me?  Che T shirts.  I think they ought to remove those.  Especially if they're hot chicks not wearing bras.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 02, 2013 10:41 AM (Hx5uv)

92

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 02:36 PM (LRFds)

 

Who convenes one (and all the other logistics)? I've never heard of them before this so have no idea.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at July 02, 2013 10:41 AM (D8tPj)

93 Since we're in near-100-comment open-OT territory, here's a wide shot HD video of the same rocket crash linked in the sidebar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl12dXYcUTo

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 02, 2013 10:41 AM (Kppp9)

94 Injuries she never examined. We have already had the testamony of the EMT and the NP that treated Jorge in person. It's all very odd. Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 02:40 PM (codCi) That poor table. That poor poor table.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 02, 2013 10:41 AM (VtjlW)

95 Freedom of speech explicitly means the freedom to offend (and be offended). Posted by: Bat Chain Puller

Amen to that.  And groovy name.

Posted by: Zoot Horn Rolo at July 02, 2013 10:42 AM (Hx2XA)

96 I cut the school a little slack on teaching the rules for both sides since conservatives rarely sue, even when our rights are completely trampled on.  Leftists sue because they hate reality.  Obviously, you have to be more wary of leftists suing you than the righties under those circumstances.

Posted by: some1 at July 02, 2013 10:42 AM (cSlKk)

97 Where's the suspension for the asshole that decided to infringe on her freedom of religion?

Posted by: © Sponge at July 02, 2013 10:42 AM (xmcEQ)

98 Just a continuation of behavior exhibited by Nortre Dame removing or covering up crucifixes when they awarded Barky an honorary degree. A university that held to its founding principles would have refused to do so and, if the WH had objected, it would have withdrawn the honorary degree and the offer to speak. But what are principles that they ought to be immune to be broken?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars[/i][/b][/s] at July 02, 2013 10:42 AM (HsTG8)

99

Or simply stage a production of the Penis Monologues, with dialogue supplied by Moron Nation.

 

An Upton,  An Upton!  My kingdom for an Upton

Posted by: Moron Nation at July 02, 2013 10:42 AM (BrQrN)

100 57 wait, you're wrong actually -- definition 2 is "generous or abundant" which is what I thought it meant. Ample, flowing.

So fuck you buddy.

True, I thought it could be interpreted that way, but I just felt like busting your balls.
*big grin*

Posted by: pedantic douche at July 02, 2013 10:42 AM (REcq5)

101 Valerie Rao, Phrenologist


Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m  O'Mara: Asks about possible bump on #GeorgeZimmerman's heard. Rao: "That's the shape of his head I think."

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 10:43 AM (codCi)

102 Or simply stage a production of the Penis Monologues, with dialogue supplied by Moron Nation. Posted by: Ian S. at July 02, 2013 02:40 PM (B/VB5) I was going to say I can't even imagine it but, well, yes, yes, I can. Hell, just do a dramatic reading of the ONT. Any ONT.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 02, 2013 10:43 AM (VtjlW)

103 If I prick you, do you not seed?

Posted by: Moron Nation at July 02, 2013 10:44 AM (BrQrN)

104 That poor table. That poor poor table.

Nice, my Queen.  Subtle, like a blade twixt ribs.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 10:44 AM (codCi)

105 I know not reading the posts is a thing, but posters not reading the articles the posts are based on? That's a new high-water mark.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 02, 2013 02:31 PM (ZshNr)

 

 

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Nah.   What are the laws of frequency? 

Posted by: Soona at July 02, 2013 10:44 AM (d698+)

106

How come nobody bitched about my cross wearin'  ?

Posted by: Billy Idol yellin MOAR, MOAR, MOAR, MOAR MOAR MOAR at July 02, 2013 10:45 AM (zULK3)

107 I'd hate to be the guy who fucked up and made a rocket crash. Wannagetaway?

Posted by: eleven at July 02, 2013 10:45 AM (KXm42)

108 Injuries she never examined. We have already had the testamony of the EMT and the NP that treated Jorge in person. Exactly. Let's take apart her testimony (and this is just from what was reported here on the blog): 1) She was using glossy photos to "diagnose" the extent of the injuries. A doctor would never do that. Doctors don't even like using video- they want, even need, to be able to see the injuries first hand to determine the best treatment. After-the-fact, the correct ethical thing to do is say the equivalent of "yep, those are injuries, all right." 2) She was using that flawed diagnosis to come to a conclusion about what Zimmerman should have believed about the injuries. That's even more ridiculous, because a) they were largely on the back of his head (where he couldn't see them), b) while you're being attacked is not the time for careful deliberation, and c) all it takes is "just one more" blow to the head and it can crack like an egg. You don't have to wait until you're literally "in fear for your life," the State has to prove that you did not have a Reasonable Expectation that your assailant meant you grievous bodily harm.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:45 AM (/PCJa)

109
Phrenology??

Isn't that that old mumbo jumbo bunk science?

Posted by: soothsayer at July 02, 2013 10:45 AM (vzLhi)

110 94 Polli the Wogette,

Bob the plumber, or Ralph the guy who lives in mom's basement...

Alex Jones 9/11 Troofer types

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 10:46 AM (LRFds)

111 What *is* a citizen's grand jury as opposed to a regular grand jury? *** I could be wrong, but I thought that they were a citizen's advocacy group and not an official jury.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 02, 2013 10:46 AM (jjvz+)

112 Is she really a ME?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 10:46 AM (7mQyC)

113 the Penis Monologues,

Ah, wouldn't that be Cock Tales? The Penis Parables?

Posted by: pedantic douche at July 02, 2013 10:47 AM (REcq5)

114 Isn't that that old mumbo jumbo bunk science?
Of course you'd say that...you have the brainpan of a stagecoach tilter!

Posted by: C Montogomery Burns at July 02, 2013 10:47 AM (/kI1Q)

115 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 02, 2013 02:42 PM (HsTG I think that was Georgetown that covered up Jesus' Passion. Nortre Dame had President Partial-Birth- Gosnell-Style Obama deliver the commencement. The girl in the story was right. Christians are under attack now.

Posted by: Iblis at July 02, 2013 10:47 AM (9221z)

116 #114

I usually just skim both. At this point I'm looking for the calls to action, not really interested in digesting more of the outrageous stuff that is happening nonstop now.

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 02, 2013 10:48 AM (El+h4)

117 Rao: "That's the shape of his head I think."


Someone want to volunteer getting their head smashed against a sidewalk so we can see if any swelling occurs?  *stares at Rao*

Posted by: Dang at July 02, 2013 10:48 AM (Hx2XA)

118 Phrenology?? Isn't that that old mumbo jumbo bunk science? If Phrenology turns out to be real, I want to be a retro-Phrenologist.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:48 AM (/PCJa)

119 Of course you'd say that...you have the brainpan of a stagecoach tilter!

I'm choking to death here.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 10:48 AM (codCi)

120

Phrenology??

Isn't that that old mumbo jumbo bunk science?

 

So says someone with  the  sloping brow and cranial bumpage of a moron!

Posted by: Mr. Burns at July 02, 2013 10:48 AM (BrQrN)

121 Injuries she never examined. We have already had the testamony of the EMT and the NP that treated Jorge in person. It's all very odd. *** The prosecution is DESPERATELY grasping for any shred of evidence that will help them. They must hate Angela Corey for this case.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 02, 2013 10:48 AM (jjvz+)

122 TFG just warned Egypt that if they kick out Morsi he'll halt aid to them.

I'm not seeing the downside.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 02, 2013 10:48 AM (B/VB5)

123 Phrenology?? Isn't that that old mumbo jumbo bunk science? Posted by: soothsayer at July 02, 2013 02:45 PM (vzLhi) It's not bunk, you're all just deniers!!1!

Posted by: Global Warming Scientist at July 02, 2013 10:48 AM (XvHmy)

124 116 the Penis Monologues, Ah, wouldn't that be Cock Tales? The Penis Parables? No, its My Life by Dick Cheney.

Posted by: Iblis at July 02, 2013 10:48 AM (9221z)

125 Ah, wouldn't that be Cock Tales? The Penis Parables? Posted by: pedantic douche at July 02, 2013 02:47 PM (REcq5) Dick Tayshun. That used to be my radio name.

Posted by: © Sponge at July 02, 2013 10:48 AM (xmcEQ)

126 TFG just warned Egypt that if they kick out Morsi he'll halt aid to them. I think I'm going to puke.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:49 AM (/PCJa)

127 universities just talk about the left boundary all day, and don't give their Idiot Employees (who are largely lefties in the first place) careful instruction about the right boundary, we're going to have idiots crossing the right boundary all the time. So, Rip van Winkle, how was your nap?

Posted by: blaster at July 02, 2013 10:49 AM (W6bkf)

128 The prosecution is DESPERATELY grasping for any shred of evidence that will help them. They must hate Angela Corey for this case. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 02, 2013 02:48 PM (jjvz+) I'm pretty sure the twitter feed on LI was all hurray! The State finally put up a witness that kinda sorta supported the State's case! Good for them.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 02, 2013 10:49 AM (VtjlW)

129 I've noticed that in these campus cases where "religious symbols" and such are suppressed by policy, the enforcement is slanted *enormously* towards Christians.

I'm not even a Christian myself, but the bias is extremely strong and quite pervasive and it's impossible to not notice it occurring.

As for enforcement of such codes against, say, Muslim headcoverings? Pagan symbols? Nonexistent.

Again, these are the fruits of the "long march through the institutions" which began with the New Left radicals in the 1960s. They set out a plan to deliberately capture and control higher education, and they've gotten it, and they're now using that control to punish their enemies and reward their friends.

It's time for conservatives to stop cooperating with that crap. I love the idea of putting universities on the hook for defaulted student loans, and it would be completely awesome to have the House start to push on that front. Give the university presidents and regents a massive ongoing financial migraine headache to worry about.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 02, 2013 10:50 AM (gqT4g)

130

You know what word tripped me up for a long time? Pulchritude. It seems to me a synonym for beauty should sound, you know, pretty.

Pulchritude sounds like a lung infection.

Posted by: Eddie Willers at July 02, 2013 10:50 AM (bRdb3)

131 "Dr Rao has a history of complaints dating back 10 years. From handling cadavers without wearing gloves to get this “washing her feet in autopsy sink. Where the hell did BDLR Corey dig up this lady." http://tinyurl.com/ltgpuz5

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 10:50 AM (7mQyC)

132 Injuries she never examined. We have already had the testamony of the EMT and the NP that treated Jorge in person.

It's all very odd.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 02:40 PM (codCi)

 

 

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It's odd because of what was pointed out the other day.  It's  the prosecution that's sucking the big one trying to muddy the waters.  That's usually the main objective of the defense. 

 

Yes, indeed.  This is odd. 

Posted by: Soona at July 02, 2013 10:50 AM (d698+)

133 So who is moxiemom and what's her beef with the so-called "War on Higher Ed"?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 02, 2013 10:50 AM (QLNHI)

134 @135: I used to joke around that he wants to be Caliph Barry I.  Now I'm not so sure.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 02, 2013 10:50 AM (B/VB5)

135
behold, The Simpson's Generation

Posted by: soothsayer at July 02, 2013 10:50 AM (vzLhi)

136 How many times will the State just toss up a pitch that lets the Defense again show the photos of Jorge's battered head?

It's inexplicable.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 10:51 AM (codCi)

137 The supervisor at SSU said it was the chancellor's policy to remove crosses. Is chancellor different from president? We've heard from the president, (though apparently Miss Jarvis hasn't) but have we heard from the chancellor? I do think Miss Jarvis should bring action against the university. The university won't stop until it thinks going over the right line will be as painful as going over the left line.

Posted by: VKI at July 02, 2013 10:51 AM (TKoA3)

138 "So Martin's only injury besides gun shot was injury consistent with having struck someone?" "Yes."

Learning so much today.  And I thought I'd been keeping up.

Posted by: Dang at July 02, 2013 10:51 AM (Hx2XA)

139 "Dr Rao has a history of complaints dating back 10 years. From handling cadavers without wearing gloves to get this “washing her feet in autopsy sink. Where the hell did BDLR Corey dig up this lady." Wait, what? I mean, on the cadavers thing- it's not like they were going to get more dead- but wouldn't that contaminate any evidence collected? I mean, the gloves are there partially for the doctor's protection, but also partially to preserve the evidence, right?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:51 AM (/PCJa)

140 Pulchritude sounds like a lung infection. I thought it was something rotting in a cooch.

Posted by: Iblis at July 02, 2013 10:51 AM (9221z)

141 This day is dragging on forever.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at July 02, 2013 10:51 AM (/kI1Q)

142

So,

I'm with the horde here.  Apologies are a dime a dozen, especially from university professors.

Hell our (now deposed) University President had a foul mouth, told the students to "panhandle" for tuition money, and told the faculty he didn't care about them.

He also was rumored to have a huge running tab at florist that rented shop space on campus because of his "apologies."  Clearly however they did not effect behavior.

I'm reminded of the Big Bang Theory Line by Dr. Gablehauser.  "What's the business of this place?"

(murmering amongst the guys).  "Research?"

"No, Money."

It's not sarcasm it's true.  And this is just an attempt to make sure they don't lose any sweet sweet donation money. (By the by, our "Freshman Advisors" were full of sorority girls who thought it was fun to see how many people in their freshman group they could bed.  I was blissfully ignorant of this my Freshman year, but it was apparently a poorly kept secret, yet no one was ever disciplined.  So there's your love the leftism trumping all things.)

Posted by: tsrblke at July 02, 2013 10:52 AM (GaqMa)

143 I'm pretty sure the twitter feed on LI was all hurray! The State finally put up a witness that kinda sorta supported the State's case! Good for them. *** Braca has been mocking them a bit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 02, 2013 10:52 AM (jjvz+)

144

Bunk science???

 

There isn't even any pictures.

Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands at July 02, 2013 10:53 AM (3ZtZW)

145

The problem with guidelines is that sometimes people go way beyond what is intended.  A general prohibition on proselytizing gets morphed by some eager beaver into a prohibition on anyone saying anything about religion.  The first is likely to be appropriate - the office cannot be used to promote this; the second is likely inappropriate - you can't stop people from discussing a topic.

 

That does happen because we are still dealing with human beings and human beings are morons (not all of them of the good kind).

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at July 02, 2013 10:53 AM (hLRSq)

146 wouldn't that be Cock Tales?

To go boldly where no man has gone before.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 02, 2013 10:53 AM (Hx5uv)

147 I think we need to petition Kickstarter for help funding a new sitcom. It's about a lovable and highly trainable little bear that loves to dress up in the skins of hobos and trannies. The title? "That's So Ace!"

Posted by: Eaton Cox at July 02, 2013 10:53 AM (q177U)

148 137 Burn the WItch,

Moxie is a moron of high regard and she probably is hesitant to rush the barricades of the dean's office nationwide.

I like her on Twitter she's always been a fave, and her stance is sadly the norm on our side.

We have to resolve to draw some lines and fight and in fighting not let go.

Lawfare against Donk money.

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 10:53 AM (LRFds)

149 "So Martin's only injury besides gun shot was injury consistent with having struck someone?" "Yes." Rephrased: "So Martin's only injury is consistent with someone who was administering a beating, not someone who was 'in a fight'?" "Yes."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:53 AM (/PCJa)

150 “The president was very upset about it and asked me to contact Miss Jarvis and give a profuse apology,” she said. Apologies by proxy are so sincere.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 02, 2013 10:53 AM (QLNHI)

151 TFG just warned Egypt that if they kick out Morsi he'll halt aid to them.

I'm not seeing the downside.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 02, 2013 02:48 PM (B/VB5)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

I'm sure Putin is salivating over this prospect.

Posted by: Soona at July 02, 2013 10:53 AM (d698+)

152 they apparently have a good Computer Science program ( according to my nephew ).  He says you just learn to keep your mouth shut during the agitprop  ( required social science ) courses at Sonoma State

Posted by: Jerry S. ( retired comedian ) at July 02, 2013 10:53 AM (omBWL)

153 The supervisor at SSU said it was the chancellor's policy to remove crosses. Is chancellor different from president? We've heard from the president, (though apparently Miss Jarvis hasn't) but have we heard from the chancellor? I do think Miss Jarvis should bring action against the university. The university won't stop until it thinks going over the right line will be as painful as going over the left line. Posted by: VKI at July 02, 2013 02:51 PM (TKoA3) Like I said, they got caught and now it's all spin spin spin.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 02, 2013 10:54 AM (VtjlW)

154 I'm picturing the coroner from Psych, Woody? He should work in Florida.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 02, 2013 10:54 AM (ZshNr)

155 This day is dragging on forever. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at July 02, 2013 02:51 PM (/kI1Q) Yes, I am convinced reality crosses over into zones of slow time.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at July 02, 2013 10:54 AM (q177U)

156 I mean, the gloves are there partially for the doctor's protection, but also partially to preserve the evidence, right?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 02:51 PM (/PCJa)

 

Little known fact: the gloves in the big box in a doctors office (and likely the same ones used in a morgue) are not anywhere near sterile.  They're 99.9% for the doctors protection and maybe .1% for yours.

I'd be willing to bet if you took a swab off the some fresh ones pulled from a box you could get a DNA sample off them.

The Sterile gloves are pricey and usually stored elsewhere.

Having said that: "eww." And perhaps a morgue is different? (Although unlikely, since contamination would be minimal anyway.)

Posted by: tsrblke at July 02, 2013 10:55 AM (GaqMa)

157 Self impeachment?

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59s  Rao says photographs O'Mara's using are distorted, don't show full views.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 10:55 AM (codCi)

158 148 It's time for conservatives to stop cooperating with that crap. I love the idea of putting universities on the hook for defaulted student loans, and it would be completely awesome to have the House start to push on that front. Give the university presidents and regents a massive ongoing financial migraine headache to worry about. This would also have a second, added feature....it would make the universities start examining how to cut costs to actually make their insitutions affordable. Maybe we don't need a full major in Womyn studies with 4 tenured professors. Of course, the idiots running most universities will just kill the men's baseball program or the computer lab and keep Womyn's Studies. Just kill the Department of Ed and restrict any government grants to schools to those that directly aid in the national defense.

Posted by: Iblis at July 02, 2013 10:55 AM (9221z)

159 They got caught and they're using the same bullshit "low level employee" excuse again.

Posted by: EC at July 02, 2013 02:18 PM (GQ8sn)

 

Who else would willingly get near Freshmen students?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at July 02, 2013 10:55 AM (hLRSq)

160 "124 Injuries she never examined. We have already had the testamony of the EMT and the NP that treated Jorge in person. It's all very odd. " ---- Odd indeed and she's and ME and doesn't know what a protrusion is? ,Then trying to refute the EMT and PA testimony who did examine him, from photos without any actual examination? Ok...but smells like weak sauce to me, but at least it sauce toward where the states wants it for once, not that the level of resulting injury really matters much.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 10:55 AM (7mQyC)

161 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m  O'Mara: You have different photos? Rao: "I have the same photographs you have."

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 10:56 AM (codCi)

162 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59s Rao says photographs O'Mara's using are distorted, don't show full views. So... another FAIL for the State.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 10:56 AM (/PCJa)

163

By the by, our "Freshman Advisors" were full of sorority girls who thought it was fun to see how many people in their freshman group they could bed

 

*tears up alumni donation card*

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at July 02, 2013 10:56 AM (BrQrN)

164

>>> TFG just warned Egypt that if they kick out Morsi he'll halt aid to them.I'm not seeing the downside.

 

 

"I will side with Islam." - Barack Hussein Obama

Posted by: garrett at July 02, 2013 10:57 AM (IKa7V)

165 "I'm sure Putin is salivating over this prospect." --- Indeed. This admin is so lost.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 10:57 AM (7mQyC)

166 Wait... what??? Mongolian neo-Nazis rebrand themselves as environmentalists Tsagaan Khass, or White Swastika, whose leader has expressed reverence for Hitler, now says its main goal is to save nature http://tinyurl.com/q6m6cdr

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 02, 2013 10:57 AM (XvHmy)

167 God have mercy. O'mara is a frickin' champ here. It's like dealing with political leftists for all hours of the day. This witness is like trying to interview quicksand.

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 02, 2013 10:58 AM (El+h4)

168 Tsagaan Khass, or White Swastika, whose leader has expressed reverence for Hitler, now says its main goal is to save nature

from Jews.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 10:58 AM (codCi)

169 Yurt First!

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 02, 2013 10:58 AM (ZshNr)

Posted by: The Cramps at July 02, 2013 10:58 AM (IKa7V)

171 The problem with guidelines is that sometimes people go way beyond what is intended. A general prohibition on proselytizing gets morphed by some eager beaver into a prohibition on anyone saying anything about religion. The first is likely to be appropriate - the office cannot be used to promote this; the second is likely inappropriate - you can't stop people from discussing a topic. That does happen because we are still dealing with human beings and human beings are morons (not all of them of the good kind). Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at July 02, 2013 02:53 PM (hLRSq) This is how the idiotic zero tolerance policies in schools came to be. If there's a zero tolerance policy about whatever, then there's no discretion and you can't be sued for using said discretion.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 02, 2013 10:58 AM (VtjlW)

172 170 ThisBeingMilt,


The difference between a FSB operator and a communitay organizer.

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 10:59 AM (LRFds)

173 #171

The real National Socialists were known neo-pagany environmentalist types. Hitler himself was somewhat of a green Fascist.

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 02, 2013 10:59 AM (El+h4)

174

Posted by: Dang at July 02, 2013 02:51 PM (Hx2XA)

 

The part about injuries "consistent with having struck someone" is important as the J4T types were claiming that he *didn't* have such injuries. Getting the state witness saying he did can't hurt Zim and may help.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at July 02, 2013 10:59 AM (D8tPj)

175 This lady is weird... it's consistent...well no it's not, but if you tell me you have witness that says 4-5 times then yes it would be consistent. Lady which is it, is it possible or isn't it...what does having a witness have to do with it?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 10:59 AM (7mQyC)

176 Why is it weird that I washed my feet in the autopsy sink?

Posted by: Valerie Rao at July 02, 2013 10:59 AM (Aif/5)

177 "Sonoma County is a White Refuge, layered with Hippie-White semi-stoners and normal ordinary White people, with almost no non-Whites once you get out of the towns along 101."

Yet even by the standards of the People's Soviet Socialist Republic of Commiefornia, Sonoma is enormously far to the left.

For twenty years they routinely sent off to Congress the arch-moonbat Lynn Woolsey, who actually boasted of being the first former welfare recipient elected to Congress. As though being on the dole were some sort of impressive personal accomplishment.

Remember when Cindy Sheehan showed up at one of George W. Bush's state of the union addresses and promptly had to be arrested by the Capitol Police for misbehavior? (As anyone who is paying attention knows, I carry no brief for Bush, but having a nut like Sheehan deliberately brought in to where he was speaking was beyond the pale.) It was Woolsey who gave Sheehan the invitation.

Woolsey also had a long history of personal antipathy to Christianity and Christians, but loves her some muzzies. Voting for example for a symbolic resolution to "recognize the importance" of Ramadan.

So to find this stuff going on in her old district is no surprise.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 02, 2013 10:59 AM (gqT4g)

178 We need to have Barack Obama give us a 45 minute teleprompter speech on "teachable moments" to clear this shit right up, amigo.

Posted by: Fritz at July 02, 2013 10:59 AM (UzPAd)

179 "It could be but that is not my opinion."

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 02, 2013 11:00 AM (El+h4)

180 171 The Political Hat,

pssst Hat they're just being more honest than Planned Parenthood, Earf First, the Anti-Smoking Nazis, and the Israel haters in the US.....


Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 11:00 AM (LRFds)

181 I wish Obama had the hubris to go to Egypt to make the speech. Would love the imagery of him dashing to a helicopter while the stage was overwhelmed with armed protesters.

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 02, 2013 11:00 AM (El+h4)

182 Threatening rape against women of faith and their families: Now seen as “special” by the President of the United States.

http://is.gd/s8Tvya

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at July 02, 2013 11:01 AM (/kI1Q)

183 This guy has been cracking me up the whole trial

Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 2m  #Zimmerman Trial: Rao can sharpen her bruise-counting skills when she gets home and examines her reputation.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 11:01 AM (codCi)

184 The State finally put up a witness that kinda sorta supported the State's case! Stupid, kinda, & sorta is no way to go thru life.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 02, 2013 11:01 AM (r+LsT)

185 "It could be but that is not my opinion." Wait, what?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 11:01 AM (/PCJa)

186 Penis Monologues - Wouldn't that just be Penthouse letters?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 02, 2013 11:01 AM (2mSdf)

187

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at July 02, 2013 02:56 PM (BrQrN)

 

Though it be a part of the HQ lifestyle, I'm not big on the whole "sex all the time, as many sexual partners as you can have" thing progressivism is pushing.

Maybe I (in my 20s) are just old school.

Having said that, I thought it was strange that it was (according to those I spoke with) the woman who did most of the..what's the right term...assertive flirting.  Not that their weren't male advisors who did it to, just that the proportion was less.

(Most of the men advisors I knew later had long term girlfriends.)

Feminism I guess.

Posted by: tsrblke at July 02, 2013 11:01 AM (GaqMa)

188 110 Injuries she never examined. We have already had the testamony of the EMT and the NP that treated Jorge in person.

Exactly.

Let's take apart her testimony (and this is just from what was reported here on the blog):

1) She was using glossy photos to "diagnose" the extent of the injuries.

A doctor would never do that. Doctors don't even like using video- they want, even need, to be able to see the injuries first hand to determine the best treatment. After-the-fact, the correct ethical thing to do is say the equivalent of "yep, those are injuries, all right."

2) She was using that flawed diagnosis to come to a conclusion about what Zimmerman should have believed about the injuries.

That's even more ridiculous, because a) they were largely on the back of his head (where he couldn't see them), b) while you're being attacked is not the time for careful deliberation, and c) all it takes is "just one more" blow to the head and it can crack like an egg. You don't have to wait until you're literally "in fear for your life," the State has to prove that you did not have a Reasonable Expectation that your assailant meant you grievous bodily harm.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 02:45 PM (/PCJa)

 

Well at least troy isn't around today.  He'd probably talk about his personal experiences with diagnosis of injuries and based on his personal experience he knows, without looking up any information about the case that Zimmerman was not hurt enough to be fearful for his life.

Posted by: buzzion at July 02, 2013 11:02 AM (LI48c)

189 I saw mention that Walsh from Salon noted that the Flat Earth Society believes in Climate Change.
I find that rather telling - she thinks it boosts the Climate Cult position.

Posted by: real joe at July 02, 2013 11:02 AM (REcq5)

190 179 RiverC,

He's be right at home on any campus....

I'm barely kidding

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 11:02 AM (LRFds)

191 Like I said, they got caught and now it's all spin spin spin.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 02, 2013 02:54 PM (VtjlW)

 

Oh, I agree with this - 42 USC sec. 1983.

Or "How many zeros do you want on that check, miss?"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at July 02, 2013 11:02 AM (hLRSq)

192 Old Valerie Rao has a bad reputation. She'll say anything to keep her state job.

Posted by: waldo at July 02, 2013 11:02 AM (hc19V)

193 194 Buzzion,

He popped his head in in a thread earlier...

not taking his part the SPLC thing is or rather was sorta his bugaboo...

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 11:03 AM (LRFds)

194 >>> Well, you can't really offer much beyond a profuse apology, or branding the request "absolutely inappropriate Sure you can. Fire idiot that violated the civil rights of Miss Jarvis. Teach the other fascists that the true meaning of "inclusive". Vow to cease being an exclusionary environment (which is what the place is) amid to become inclusionary.

Posted by: fluffy at July 02, 2013 11:03 AM (hCITk)

195 Soon they will re-introduce the flat earth theory with the stars as little lamps. There are no other planets to travel to, human! Gaia is your only god!

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 02, 2013 11:03 AM (El+h4)

196 holy crap the state was just overruled for the first time since like yesterday morning on an objection, it's so rare they STAND out.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:03 AM (7mQyC)

197 The wheels are coming off the bus, Spock Ears. I am going to point and laugh like that kid in the Simpson's during the Burning Times (R).

Posted by: Eaton Cox at July 02, 2013 11:04 AM (q177U)

198 Soon they will re-introduce the flat earth theory with the stars as little lamps.

And those are the only lamps you're gonna get.  Artificial light makes the baby Gaia cry, so it's gotta be banned.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at July 02, 2013 11:04 AM (/kI1Q)

199 hahaha



Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 4m  #Zimmerman Trial: If Rao points out a "creepy-ass laceration" I'm knocking off for the day. http://is.gd/MiCo0J

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 11:04 AM (codCi)

200 Wait, what? Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 03:01 PM (/PCJa) I think you just summed up nearly everyone watching the case's reaction to the State's case. That poor poor poor table.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 02, 2013 11:05 AM (VtjlW)

201 Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 4m #Zimmerman Trial: If Rao points out a "creepy-ass laceration" I'm knocking off for the day. http://is.gd/MiCo0J Is it me, or has he moved from "sorta, kinda trying to play it fair" to outright mocking the State?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 11:05 AM (/PCJa)

202 Except Flat Earthers seem to believe in that dreaded spectre of the progressive-left: Climate Change

http://joannenova.com.au/2013/06/flat-earthers-believe-in-climate-change/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 02, 2013 11:05 AM (03nHa)

203 I sat at my desk this morning. My desk is located within the State of Florida. It is co-located with me, who is also located within the State of Florida. I have not left the State of Florida since...idk, April. I sampled conversations from all over my building during my (successful) attempts to look busy. I heard discussions of all sorts of current topics...stuff about Egypt, stuff about African vacations, lots of stuff about healthcare (expected, considering I work in said industry)...even stuff about SB5 in Texas...pro and con. What did I hear literally (and I hate to use that word, but it applies) NOTHING about? Nobody's talking about GZ. Everyone here knows he's innocent.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at July 02, 2013 11:05 AM (Vgn84)

204 "You'd think they'd be thanking me."

Posted by: Barakhenaten I re: Eqyptian Protests at July 02, 2013 11:05 AM (IKa7V)

205 OT: Oooh, pretty! I have some kind of Hawk making figure-eights right outside my window!

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 11:06 AM (/PCJa)

206 208 Allen G,

I like his work but to be fair he has always been a GZ booster...of course this is so over the top the State merits little but mocking

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 11:06 AM (LRFds)

207 Oh, I agree with this - 42 USC sec. 1983. Or "How many zeros do you want on that check, miss?" How many you got? Order more. Yeah, I'm a dick like that.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 02, 2013 11:06 AM (r+LsT)

208 Is it me, or has he moved from "sorta, kinda trying to play it fair" to outright mocking the State?

He's pretty much been on Team Jorge from the beginning.  He's just letting his inner Moron out now.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 11:07 AM (codCi)

209

Penis Monologues

 

I read that as Penis Mondrian and flashed on a really painful visual.

Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands at July 02, 2013 11:07 AM (3ZtZW)

210 I think you just summed up nearly everyone watching the case's reaction to the State's case. That poor poor poor table chicken. Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 02, 2013 03:05 PM (VtjlW) Altered to be in compliance with the StyleGuide.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 02, 2013 11:07 AM (da5Wo)

211 "Is it me, or has he moved from "sorta, kinda trying to play it fair" to outright mocking the State?" --- He was already there by Friday.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:07 AM (7mQyC)

212 210 Akula 51,

even the Martins know he's innocent they want their payday and revenge...

the whole sham is sorta indicative of the devil's bargain society is devolving too...

"just pray it ain't you buddy"

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 11:07 AM (LRFds)

213 He's pretty much been on Team Jorge from the beginning. He's just letting his inner Moron out now. Yeah, I knew he was a Z supporter. I just got the idea from early tweets that he was trying to maintain at least a level of professional aloofness. That seems to have gone right out the window this week.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 11:08 AM (/PCJa)

214

Though it be a part of the HQ lifestyle, I'm not big on the whole "sex all the time, as many sexual partners as you can have" thing progressivism is pushing.

 

Me either actually.  I just enjoy the pervy memes.

 

I wasn't exactly an angel, but just because I could fuck something, doesn't mean I was going to fuck something.

 

Mainly because they're not things.  Which is what those gals were turning themselves into.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at July 02, 2013 11:08 AM (BrQrN)

215 Is it me, or has he moved from "sorta, kinda trying to play it fair" to outright mocking the State? Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 03:05 PM (/PCJa) Outright mocking. I'm presuming it's a self-defense mechanism by his brain to keep from having a stroke at what the State is doing.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 02, 2013 11:08 AM (VtjlW)

216 How many zeroes? All of them.

Posted by: eleven at July 02, 2013 11:08 AM (KXm42)

217 When you have to ask your own witness if they are lying, you're losing.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 57s  State's Guy: Are you slanting testimony because Corey wrote letter to Gov. for you? Rao: "Absolutely not."

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 11:08 AM (codCi)

218 "akula_51 at July 02, 2013 03:05 PM (Vgn84) " Objection! Hearsay.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:09 AM (7mQyC)

219

I'll reiterate here what I've said before, and taught my Children.

 

There is NO Right not to be offended in the Constitution.

 

There IS an explicit Right to free speech.

 

Somehow though... the not to be offended part trumps the Constitution...

 

/facepalm

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 02, 2013 11:09 AM (lZBBB)

220 "My Penis is angry! It is.  It's pissed off.  My Penis is furious and it needs to talk!"

Posted by: Penis Dialogue at July 02, 2013 11:10 AM (IKa7V)

221 "My Penis is angry! It is. It's pissed off. My Penis is furious and it needs to talk!" That really offends me.

Posted by: eleven at July 02, 2013 11:10 AM (KXm42)

222 When you have to ask your own witness if they are lying, you're losing. Well, that's kind of what they're left with, isn't it. Though, on re-cross, I might be tempted to ask (and then immediately withdraw), "The DA asked if you are slanting your testimony out of some sort of loyalty to AG Corey, to which you replied in the negative. So I must ask, why *are* you slanting your testimony?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 11:10 AM (/PCJa)

223 O/T: MSNBC down to 576,000 total viewers on a weeknight,  and only 191,000 in the 18-54 demographic that advertisers care about.

So either there's a lot of pint-sized progs out there, or a ton of blue-haired hippies.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 02, 2013 11:10 AM (B/VB5)

224 #227

"But Penis, why not have a monologue? Why even expect anyone to listen to you and have anything intelligent, meaningful or worthwhile in response?"

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 02, 2013 11:11 AM (El+h4)

225 "Is it true that you occasionally use an organ tray to serve sushi?"

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 02, 2013 11:11 AM (ZshNr)

226 Is it me, or has he moved from "sorta, kinda trying to play it fair" to outright mocking the State? *** The prosecution BEGS to be mocked.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 02, 2013 11:11 AM (jjvz+)

227

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 02, 2013 03:11 PM (El+h4)

 

 

You hopped right on it.

 

 

Posted by: Penis Dialogue at July 02, 2013 11:11 AM (IKa7V)

228 OT / Michelle Obama says being 1st lady is like living in a prison. Guy on twitter says yeah that's because you're surrounded by criminals.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 02, 2013 11:12 AM (v1mq9)

229 "But Penis, why not have a monologue? Why even expect anyone to listen to you and have anything intelligent, meaningful or worthwhile in response?"

This reminds me, for no particular reason, that in Agatha Christie's original text Hercule Poirot was frequently portrayed as "ejaculating" a statement.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 02, 2013 11:12 AM (B/VB5)

230 Top.Men.

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1m  JacksonvilleME steps down after a very spirited cross by O'Mara. Afternoon break. Next state witness may not be available.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 11:12 AM (codCi)

231 229 - Jury might deduct a point or two for that gimmick, best just let it stand.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:12 AM (7mQyC)

232 So, is it just me, or has ace used the same topic for two posts- and those two posts have been left up between them for something like 4 hours? I don't feel I'm getting my money's worth out of this blog.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 11:12 AM (/PCJa)

233 Posted by: Romeo13 at July 02, 2013 03:09 PM (lZBBB)

You missed the emanation of a penumbra of a wisp of a shadow in your reading of the Constitution.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 02, 2013 11:12 AM (Cnqmv)

234 Next witness I think was supposed to be that video\skype testimony they talked about in the early morning right?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:13 AM (7mQyC)

235 Hey, what's happening with GZ?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 02, 2013 11:13 AM (R8hU8)

236 I heard the Asshole Monologues were a gas

Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands at July 02, 2013 11:13 AM (3ZtZW)

237 This trial isn't just about a Florida man on trial for murder. It's about the right to self-defense. It's about mob rule. It's about a corrupt prosecutor. It's about race. It is a newsworthy trial.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 02, 2013 11:13 AM (jjvz+)

238 229 - Jury might deduct a point or two for that gimmick, best just let it stand. Oh, probably. But it would be fun.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 11:13 AM (/PCJa)

239

>>> So, is it just me, or has ace used the same topic for two posts- and those two posts have been left up between them for something like 4 hours?

 

 

You don't get this whole Second Tier Blog thing, do you?

Posted by: garrett at July 02, 2013 11:13 AM (IKa7V)

240 Re Dr. Valerie Rao:

FMG. "Foreign Medical Graduate".

If you look at the stats, FMGs account for a wholly disproportionate number of the doctors who get disciplined for misconduct or sued for incompetence.

This is in part due to the fact that in a lot of the rest of the world, including in India where Dr. Rao trained, it's a routine thing to be able to buy one's way through medical school exams and licensing.

Expect to have a lot more Dr. Rao types showing up in your personal medical future thanks to Obamacare.

That's how it has worked in, say, the UK, where FMGs fill out the ranks of their National Health Service. And just as frighteningly inept there as here. I could quote dozens of terrifying stories off the top of my head about NHS FMG doctors administering the wrong drugs to lethal effect.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 02, 2013 11:13 AM (gqT4g)

241 227 "My Penis is angry! Yeah, well the WARCOCK of Dick Cheney is going to educate all of us on anger if we don't get a new thread soon.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at July 02, 2013 11:13 AM (Vgn84)

242 For EC, BCochran,, and other assorted others of the Horde.
http://en.bijin-snap.com/2013/07/03/no-944/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 02, 2013 11:13 AM (03nHa)

243 Yeah, I knew he was a Z supporter. I just got the idea from early tweets that he was trying to maintain at least a level of professional aloofness. That seems to have gone right out the window this week.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 03:08 PM (/PCJa)

 

 

--------------------------------------------------

 

From what I've seen, read, and heard, there's nothing else to do but mock.   Everyone involved in this prosecution needs  to be hung......out to dry......in a hot humid sun........spread-eagled over a red anthill.

Posted by: Soona at July 02, 2013 11:14 AM (d698+)

244 Hey, what's happening with GZ? *** the prosecution continues to thrash about, doing more harm to themselves than to GZ.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 02, 2013 11:14 AM (jjvz+)

245 Nobody's talking about GZ. Everyone here knows he's innocent.

Posted by: akula_51 at July 02, 2013 03:05 PM (Vgn84)

 

I think everyone across the country knows he's innocent including the racebaiters.  But they want to use it.  If the railroad him to guilt then they will consider it a win and push it more in order to limit concealed carry and justifiable shooting.

 

And well if he's found innocent then they know they can stir up the riots that once over, they think that can gain more power and influence.

Posted by: buzzion at July 02, 2013 11:14 AM (LI48c)

246 240 - If someone would post such an open thread for that... I'm pretty sure most of us would stick to that one with the zimmerman trial posts.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:14 AM (7mQyC)

247

Your hands, so calloused

The left, the right, then the left

Please, an orifice

Posted by: Penis Haiku at July 02, 2013 11:14 AM (BrQrN)

248 This reminds me, for no particular reason, that in Agatha Christie's original text Hercule Poirot was frequently portrayed as "ejaculating" a statement.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 02, 2013 03:12 PM (B/VB5)


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Poirot, that little squirt?

Posted by: real joe at July 02, 2013 11:15 AM (REcq5)

249 239 So, is it just me, or has ace used the same topic for two posts- and those two posts have been left up between them for something like 4 hours? I don't feel I'm getting my money's worth out of this blog. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 03:12 PM (/PCJa) Won an award and now he's coasting. Damn Ewoks.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 02, 2013 11:15 AM (da5Wo)

250 You don't get this whole Second Tier Blog thing, do you?

Award-winning Second Tier Blog, you loaf of ungrateful bread.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at July 02, 2013 11:15 AM (/kI1Q)

251 I'm waiting for the "Zimmerman Trial Open Thread Because All You Guys Do Is Talk About The Zimmerman Trial" in 3...2...1... Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at July 02, 2013 03:12 PM (tWmgi) There had better be a Sharknado thread or so help me. Speaking of or so help me - http://youtu.be/tqaHBfBSSuc

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 02, 2013 11:16 AM (VtjlW)

252 "The resultant injuries did not have great force"

So, Trayvon was all talk and no walk?

Who'd have guessed it.

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 02, 2013 11:16 AM (El+h4)

253 "Oh, probably. But it would be fun." --- I do not dispute that fact what so ever.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:16 AM (7mQyC)

254 Judging from the number of "we gonna riot" tweets, it appears that even idiots can tell the prosecution is going nowhere.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 02, 2013 11:16 AM (jjvz+)

255 Soona, you forgot to coat them in rancid marmalade before spread eagling them over the fire ant mounds.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 02, 2013 11:16 AM (03nHa)

256 I heard the Asshole Monologues were a gas Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands
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I heard that they stank...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 02, 2013 11:17 AM (aDwsi)

257 Forget open thread, there needs to be a Sharknado live blog.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 02, 2013 11:17 AM (B/VB5)

258

Award-winning Second Tier Blog, you loaf of ungrateful bread.

 

Hey.  I was fully baked when I got here!

Posted by: garrett at July 02, 2013 11:17 AM (IKa7V)

259 Maybe ace is under the weather again, he has the immune system of a 45 year old, overweight smoker.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 02, 2013 11:17 AM (v1mq9)

260 17 minutes into Shep's broadcast. Bets on how many minutes in before he refers to the "unarmed child" Trayvon?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 02, 2013 11:17 AM (jjvz+)

261 254 240 - If someone would post such an open thread for that... I'm pretty sure most of us would stick to that one with the zimmerman trial posts.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 03:14 PM (7mQyC)

 

Only while its the top or second post.

Posted by: buzzion at July 02, 2013 11:17 AM (LI48c)

262

Posted by: buzzion at July 02, 2013 03:02 PM (LI48c)

 

The REAL key to the whole self defense argument is not even being talked about...

 

In Zimmermans next day video, he says.... yes he was getting beat... but it was not until his coat road up, T saw his gun and said, 'you're dead' that he pulled the gun and shot...

 

Lets see... guy assaults you... sees your gun in the holster, THEN says you're dead as he starts to move TOWARD your gun....

 

I'd say that counts as a 'reasonable' fear for your life....

 

(and just to point out... note... Z did NOT pull his gun early in the 'fight'... as he could have if he was 'out to get' T).

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 02, 2013 11:17 AM (lZBBB)

263 The world has gone completely insane.(Led by America and it's retarded President) http://tinyurl.com/o794kuz

Posted by: steevy at July 02, 2013 11:18 AM (9XBK2)

264 O/T So, SCOAMT said that if everyone in the world had air conditioning and drove cars without the power coming from unicorn farts and pee, the entire earth would "boil over". Howie Carr just compared that statement to the infamous Hank Johnson concern about Guam tipping over. Excellently apt comparision.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at July 02, 2013 11:18 AM (r+7wo)

265

the prosecution continues to thrash about, doing more harm to themselves than to GZ.

 

Good, and thanks NDH

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 02, 2013 11:18 AM (R8hU8)

266 Award-winning Second Tier Blog, you loaf of ungrateful white  bread.
Posted by: HeatherRadish
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FIFY

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 02, 2013 11:19 AM (aDwsi)

267 Speaking of or so help me - http://youtu.be/tqaHBfBSSuc Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 02, 2013 03:16 PM (VtjlW) You have a date tonight? How wonderful for you. Is he Moron material?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 02, 2013 11:19 AM (da5Wo)

268 Second tier just because all the First and Third tier blogs are big stupidheads. The first have HTML ( snobs!) and the third use crayon.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 02, 2013 11:19 AM (ZshNr)

269 AlextheChick, so they remind you of the state prosecution team?  I would beg to differ since they can actually sing and dance, the state team not so much as it seems they have eight left feet and can only hit sour notes.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 02, 2013 11:19 AM (03nHa)

270 Howie Carr just compared that statement to the infamous Hank Johnson concern about Guam tipping over.

It's also the clearest statement yet of the progs' intent to neo-feudalize everyone.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 02, 2013 11:19 AM (B/VB5)

271 "Is she really a ME"

She got her current job by the Governor appointing her on a recommendation from Corey. This is how corrupt poltics is, it seeps into every aspect of elected and unelected officials. This woman probably made her degree in medicine by the skin of her teeth and after years of going through the motions is probably light years behind a first year medical student in competency. Yet you are rewarded for that in local and state government as long you know whose back to scratch.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 02, 2013 11:19 AM (Fz2C7)

272 Sean Hansy. Nice work legal eagle dude.

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 02, 2013 11:20 AM (El+h4)

273 She was criticized for washing her feet in the lab sinks. Is she a muslim?

Posted by: waldo at July 02, 2013 11:20 AM (hc19V)

274 I saw Asshole Monologues open for Alice Cooper in '76.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 11:20 AM (codCi)

275 268 NDH,

15 seconds...

bonus points if Shempf loses himself and wails, "Mr. Zimmerman why did you take his ARMMMMMS?!!?

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 11:20 AM (LRFds)

276 "267 Maybe ace is under the weather again, he has the immune system of a 45 year old, overweight smoker." --- That's me minus the overweight part but add in poison ivy rashes over 1/3rd of my body right now including my hands... suck it up ace.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:21 AM (7mQyC)

277

>>> Howie Carr just compared that statement to the infamous Hank Johnson concern about Guam tipping over.

 

 

Let's be fair...Guam might slip over and tip into the sea at some point.  It won't be for the reason's Hank Johnson thinks.  But it is in the realm of possibility...subduction is a cruel mistress.

However, the Earth can't boil over from industrialization of the 3rd world.  It just isn't possible. 

Posted by: garrett at July 02, 2013 11:21 AM (IKa7V)

278 steevy those Socket Balls are 'green' energy if you ignore all the nasty things used to make the Socket Balls.  Typical flim-flam sham from the snake-oil sales pukes of the Green Left.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 02, 2013 11:22 AM (03nHa)

279 This is how corrupt poltics is, it seeps into every aspect of elected and unelected officials. This woman probably made her degree in medicine by the skin of her teeth and after years of going through the motions is probably light years behind a first year medical student in competency. That's why she is an ME & not an MD. Harder to kill a dead person.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 02, 2013 11:22 AM (r+LsT)

280 The earth is boiling, and we're the frogs.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 02, 2013 11:22 AM (ZshNr)

281 This woman probably made her degree in medicine by the skin of her teeth and after years of going through the motions is probably light years behind a first year medical student in competency.

Then this is the best job for her. What happens if she malpractices an autopsy? The stiff comes back to life?

Posted by: real joe at July 02, 2013 11:23 AM (REcq5)

282 I saw Asshole Monologues open for Alice Cooper in '76.
Posted by: toby928
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Pretty sure Ben Dover was their lead guitarist.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 02, 2013 11:23 AM (aDwsi)

283 "the third use crayon. " --- Yeah but they're colorful!

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:23 AM (7mQyC)

284

That's me minus the overweight part but add in poison ivy rashes over 1/3rd of my body right now including my hands...

 

You know, ChemJeff might be able to make it  the  whole month if he gets poison ivy on his hands.

Posted by: garrett at July 02, 2013 11:23 AM (IKa7V)

285 Captain Smith has returned to the bridge ...

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m  Angela Corey is now back in court.

Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 02, 2013 11:23 AM (codCi)

286 I actually am offended by kids wearing Chez Guevara shirts.  There is no "might be" about it.  Ban them.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 02, 2013 11:23 AM (SkyIE)

287 People do not like Valerie: http://goo.gl/oVClN

Posted by: waldo at July 02, 2013 11:24 AM (hc19V)

288 285 Garrett,

it also sorta illuminates Ogabe's expertise on how economics works...

there is a finite amount of industrial need and God knows he's trying toi wreck it as rapidly as he can...

specialization will reduce and disperse the effects of industrial pollution in all likelihood.

London, NYC, Pittsburgh and Chicago are all measurably cleaner than they once were.

His shit's pretty retarded SIR!

//DeDe

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 11:24 AM (LRFds)

289 I thought Angela Corey was Captain Bligh?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 02, 2013 11:24 AM (03nHa)

290 I thought Angela Corey was Captain Bligh? I thought she was Captain Crunch?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 02, 2013 11:25 AM (/PCJa)

291 Milt's tip of the week: Leave the gardening to the gardeners.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:25 AM (7mQyC)

292 Nood up.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 02, 2013 11:25 AM (r+LsT)

293 So, SCOAMT said that if everyone in the world had air conditioning and drove cars without the power coming from unicorn farts and pee, the entire earth would "boil over". Howie Carr just compared that statement to the infamous Hank Johnson concern about Guam tipping over. Excellently apt comparision. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at July 02, 2013 03:18 PM (r+7wo) Dovetails nicely with his belief in fixed pie economics, doesn't it?

Posted by: Mainah at July 02, 2013 11:25 AM (659DL)

294 298 AllenG,

I'm pretty sure her ex-boss Charlie Crist is Luck E Charms

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 11:25 AM (LRFds)

295


>> it also sorta illuminates Ogabe's expertise

 

 

You are just upset because of his lickadicksicle attitude.

Posted by: garrett at July 02, 2013 11:26 AM (IKa7V)

296 That's why she is an ME & not an MD. Harder to kill a dead person.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 02, 2013 03:22 PM (r+LsT)

 

 

--------------------------------------------

 

 

ME's are  forensic pathologists.  Pathologists are MD's.

Posted by: Soona at July 02, 2013 11:26 AM (d698+)

297

Like I always say - if you wanna be taken seriously by Western progtards, you need to start lopping off heads and blowin' shit up.  Sweet Prophet Mohammed, why is this concept so hard to grasp?  Sheesh!

Posted by: "Bob" in Riyadh at July 02, 2013 11:26 AM (4I3Uo)

298

>>>Dovetails nicely with his belief in fixed pie economics, doesn't it?

 

He won't go near my pie.

Posted by: Michele Obama's Landing Strip at July 02, 2013 11:26 AM (IKa7V)

299 How is his transcript relevant? Criminal justice degrees mean little to nothing. The law is much more complicated than what they teach. What's next? He likes CSI programs?

Posted by: waldo at July 02, 2013 11:27 AM (hc19V)

300 Bitch, please. The penis does not require an entire monologue when this simple statement of need will do quite nicely. "Now, yes, now, now, now, please, please, please. " The sentence should be read with the tone and fervor of the dog in the bacon Beggin' Strips commercial.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 02, 2013 11:27 AM (w8v/8)

301 Egypt/Obama thread up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 02, 2013 11:28 AM (jjvz+)

302 303 Garrett,

You caught me...

Jealous of Reggie...

//Mirror Uni Sven

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 02, 2013 11:28 AM (LRFds)

303 Ok now they want to toss around the want-to-be cop angle to suggest that he's making up his story to match what he thinks cops would need, via some old professor and an old application to some police department in VA. ...judge about to rule on it... knowing her she'll likely allow it and then deny it when the defense wants to bring up TM past.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:29 AM (7mQyC)

304 "Egypt/Obama thread up" --- It is called disaster part two?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:30 AM (7mQyC)

305 OT:  General Mills celebrates Gay Pride Month by announcing new rainbow Lucky Charms.

http://tinyurl.com/ow7tlr4

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 02, 2013 11:30 AM (Hx5uv)

306 307 - If she's gonna let this in then they need to let in trayvons knowledge of mma and part of his history dealing with fighting.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:31 AM (7mQyC)

307 Bryan M. Payne ‏@digitalpayne 4m How did a fight between Jewish Latino and a Black man become a racial issue? http://usat.ly/WnkjX9 #zimmerman He's a joooo! He's a joooo! Burn him!

Posted by: waldo at July 02, 2013 11:31 AM (hc19V)

308 Can they prove that GZ was present when they covered SYG? Was he awake?

Posted by: waldo at July 02, 2013 11:32 AM (hc19V)

309 oh gosh so in a college course SYG law might have been part of the courseware, so when GZ says he wasn't aware of FL\SYG he's lying?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:32 AM (7mQyC)

310 OT: At least the "pro choicer" on the left is honest:

http://tinyurl.com/o54al97

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 02, 2013 11:32 AM (Hx5uv)

311 You have a date tonight? How wonderful for you. Is he Moron material? Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 02, 2013 03:19 PM (da5Wo) What? How you got to there from my random Monsters, Inc. clip I don't want to know. Anna, no, I was just riffing on the so help me theme.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 02, 2013 11:33 AM (VtjlW)

312 This judge is so unnecessarily snotty.

Posted by: waldo at July 02, 2013 11:33 AM (hc19V)

313 Yes Judge you are correct - You have no idea what they are talking about that's been fairly clear in this case the whole time.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:33 AM (7mQyC)

314 Oh you know she's letting this in.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:34 AM (7mQyC)

315 ...and there you have it, it's in. *shocker* /sarc

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 02, 2013 11:36 AM (7mQyC)

316 Captain Queeg, get the metaphor straight.

Posted by: Admiral Layton at July 02, 2013 11:45 AM (Jsiw/)

317 313 OT: General Mills celebrates Gay Pride Month by announcing new rainbow Lucky Charms. They're magically dick-licious. Froot Loops and Fruity Pebbles will soon join in to make the Gay Cereals section of the supermarket.

Posted by: Dee Dee at July 02, 2013 11:47 AM (7ObY1)

318 Dear Miss Jarvis,

Sue them all the way to SCOTUS. Then transfer to another university.
Declaration of Dame ChristyB, Second of July Twenty-thirteen Eleventy

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen at July 02, 2013 11:53 AM (baL2B)

319

 "A guideline that talks all day about "not offending other students" but does not then lay down the other side of the line, that students have a basic right to express themselves even if some very sensitive idiots might be offended by this expression."

I'd go further: students who are offended by a visual reminder that people with different beliefs or opinions exist and will be swimming into their view all day, every day, should be quickly educated out of such sensitivity.  It shouldn't be acknowledged, let alone pandered to.  There are Christians, Hindus, atheists, Mormons, Muslims etc. all around you.  A university is supposed to be a magnet that attracts people from all directions.  If that offends you, then resign yourself to being offended.  But a better way to enjoy your time at university is to realize that your expectations that inconvenient people will magically disappear when you're around is asinine and should be abandoned at once.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at July 02, 2013 01:14 PM (FkH4y)

320 I'm sorry, I missed the part in the statement that the offender must attend sensitivity training.

Posted by: Skip at July 02, 2013 01:31 PM (LP7M9)

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