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March 24, 2013

Want A .50 Cal Rifle, New York LEOs? Pound Sand.
— andy

Via Mare at the Splitters comes this heartwarming tale of solidarity among the very small population of manufacturers of rifles chambered for .50 BMG.

XXXX,
Yes, I got the message and tried to return the call but got no answer. I appreciate your interest in our BFG-50A; IÂ’m sure it would be an excellent addition to your departmentÂ’s arsenal. Unfortunately, we have a policy of selling to state law enforcement agencies only what is allowed to be sold to private citizens in that state. Since the passage of the NY SAFE act, the BFG-50A is considered an assault weapon and as such is no longer available to private citizens in the state of New York. Therefore we have to respectfully decline to supply your department with BFG-50A rifles.
Regards,
Mark Serbu

Of course, Ronnie Barrett won't sell to them either.

The reverse-boycott continues apace. Well done, Mr. Serbu.

Also continuing apace ... the Ace-a-Thon. Hobo disposal is expensive, you know.

Posted by: andy at 03:45 PM | Comments (236)
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1 Jim Carrey, get bent.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 24, 2013 03:47 PM (QTHTd)

2 Loving it.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2013 03:47 PM (NEIxp)

3 Sweet

Posted by: Shannow at March 24, 2013 03:48 PM (E34HQ)

4 we need to weaponize our money and our goods and services as the moontards do...

I concur well done...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 03:48 PM (LRFds)

why does a cop need a big gun like that? Shouldn't two blasts from a shotgun be enough?

Posted by: mallfly at March 24, 2013 03:49 PM (jDjlM)

6 Why would civilian police need a .50? MRAPs and .50s, what the hell?

Posted by: Beagle at March 24, 2013 03:50 PM (zKyAE)

7 This warms my heart.

Posted by: DavidJ at March 24, 2013 03:50 PM (1JK0g)

8 Ban Big Gulp guns!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2013 03:50 PM (6EgxM)

9 Yes,

this is the kind of pushback that is needed.
The average cop is IIRC, pretty pro 2ndA, but as per usual, it's the higher ups that are all about CYA.

Posted by: dantealiegri at March 24, 2013 03:50 PM (VXYXz)

10 Police don't need a 50 cal to hunt deer anyway. So yea, suck me in the taint.

Posted by: Whatev at March 24, 2013 03:51 PM (A7Wh1)

11 Andy, You are working to hard. Get a bottle of Valu rite and take the rest of the night off. Love, The Moron Hoard

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 24, 2013 03:51 PM (wR+pz)

12 6 Why would civilian police need a .50? MRAPs and .50s, what the hell? Posted by: Beagle at March 24, 2013 07:50 PM (zKyAE) Nothing to see here, peasant. Move along.

Posted by: Janet Napolitano at March 24, 2013 03:51 PM (NEIxp)

13
Tank, drone and tear gas manufacturers should be so brave.

Posted by: Well armed militia at March 24, 2013 03:52 PM (Opo0Q)

14 It makes me happy.

Posted by: Truman North at March 24, 2013 03:53 PM (I2LwF)

15 Now that all the criminals have registered their guns, there will be no need for the .50 anyway.

Posted by: pat at March 24, 2013 03:53 PM (jlQR7)

16 6 Why would civilian police need a .50? MRAPs and .50s, what the hell? Their SWAT teams justify them as vehicle stoppers? That's all I can figure.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 24, 2013 03:53 PM (wR+pz)

17 Billy Bob, in case Michael Moore goes on a rampage at White Castle?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2013 03:54 PM (6EgxM)

18 Oh, snap!

I <3 Mr. Serbu!

Posted by: Peaches at March 24, 2013 03:54 PM (AJM+z)

19 16 Billy Bob,

the Keystone Kommandos want to be ready for World War Z I guess...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 03:54 PM (LRFds)

20 6 Why would civilian police need a .50? MRAPs and .50s, what the hell? Posted by: Beagle at March 24, 2013 07:50 PM (zKyAE) For drug raids on the wrong house, and shooting the family dog in the process.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2013 03:55 PM (NEIxp)

21 17 Ms. Puma,

Calling all cars, calling all card...we have a perfect storm of Mik'Al Moor, Rosie O'Doughnut, and Ed Schultz attacking hamburger row...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 03:55 PM (LRFds)

22 So how many people were killed by a .50 BMG in America in the last 10 years? Nada. Zero. 0

Posted by: pat at March 24, 2013 03:56 PM (jlQR7)

23 20 Insomniac,

hey sometimes you need to shoot through 3 houses and two dogs to get the perp....

//Sal the Swat Guy

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 03:56 PM (LRFds)

24 Nobody needs to own a gun. They should be banned in America for everyone's safety. You should all just get armed bodyguards like I have.

Posted by: Gov. Quo Moe at March 24, 2013 03:56 PM (I2LwF)

25 Watch the cops do straw-man sales thru depts in other states. For them I'm sure it'll be "legal".

Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2013 03:56 PM (FcR7P)

26 17 Billy Bob, in case Michael Moore goes on a rampage at White Castle? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2013 07:54 PM (6EgxM) Wouldn't a harpoon be more appropriate?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2013 03:56 PM (NEIxp)

27 That put a smile on my face!

Posted by: MrsP at March 24, 2013 03:57 PM (tgRSU)

28 22 Pat,

which gets us back to the entire reason they are so hot to have the "evil guns"...they want to do things that would up that number in a jam I'd wager...

grandpa always told me "you only NEED a handgun when they try to take them away son..."

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 03:57 PM (LRFds)

29 Calling all cars, calling all card...we have a perfect storm of Mik'Al Moor, Rosie O'Doughnut, and Ed Schultz attacking hamburger row...

They thought the MRAP was a new Taco Bell product.

Posted by: no good deed at March 24, 2013 03:57 PM (xXCNf)

30 >> You are working to hard. Get a bottle of Valu rite and take the rest of the night off. You made me an offer I can't refuse.

Posted by: Andy at March 24, 2013 03:57 PM (OZPoa)

31 Wouldn't a harpoon be more appropriate?

Not even I'm crazy enough to go after *that* white whale.

Posted by: Captain Ahab at March 24, 2013 03:59 PM (BBWjt)

32 "Watch the cops do straw-man sales thru depts in other states. For them I'm sure it'll be "legal"." Until someone gets shot by a cop with a weapon from a strawman deal, whereupon they will sue the weapons manufacturer. And then the cops in legal states won't be allowed to procure a damn peashooter.

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at March 24, 2013 03:59 PM (OY/SZ)

33 The Governor makes a wise point. You can use the money you save by following my eating laws to employ full time bodyguards.

Posted by: Nanny Bloomburqa at March 24, 2013 03:59 PM (I2LwF)

34 Originally found that at: http://therealrevo.com/blog/ Want to give them their due.

Posted by: mare at March 24, 2013 04:00 PM (A98Xu)

35 Hobo disposal is expensive, you know.

Who would dispose of a perfectly good hobo corpse?

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 24, 2013 04:01 PM (oZr5y)

36 Hey, on the DHS MRAPs, make sure you see this update: http://read.bi/16SjA4J They only have 16 of them. Not 2,700. Why they need 16 is still a valid question. David Koresh was unavailable to respond at the time this was published.

Posted by: Andy at March 24, 2013 04:01 PM (OZPoa)

37 I wonder why Serbu uses BFG which is slang for Big F*cking Gun? lol
By the way, this is incredibly cheap for a 50, $2400

Posted by: pat at March 24, 2013 04:02 PM (jlQR7)

38 The polices here in mass have all the guns they need. The May Issue citizenry? Maybe not so much.

Posted by: Truman North at March 24, 2013 04:03 PM (I2LwF)

39 But Jim Carrey says you don't need a gun.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 24, 2013 04:03 PM (oZr5y)

40 Jim Carrey is trying to get beyond fart jokes. and failing miserably.

Posted by: pat at March 24, 2013 04:04 PM (jlQR7)

41 39 Cicero,

and evidently America said this last month "who the hell needs Jim "not as funny as Drew" Carrey?"

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 04:04 PM (LRFds)

42 Send lawyers, guns and money the shhtf........

Posted by: warren beowulf at March 24, 2013 04:04 PM (O1jaY)

43 Where is the men's room...?

Posted by: NeoKong at March 24, 2013 04:05 PM (JWLwG)

44 Hey, we NEED these guns. They go so nice with our military-style assault vehicles that we're buying with Stimulus funds rather than preventing furloughs for cops from the Sequester. Because we NEED armored vehicles for writing speeding tickets and donut runs.

Posted by: National Association of SuperCops at March 24, 2013 04:05 PM (MMC8r)

45 PRO TIP: Don't hire Iranian bodyguards

Posted by: Bashar Assad at March 24, 2013 04:05 PM (oZr5y)

46 Pro tip: Political commentary is not a viable second career for a failing comedian.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 24, 2013 04:05 PM (GoIUi)

47 and evidently America said this last month "who the hell needs Jim "not as funny as Drew" Carrey?"

Jim used to have a showbiz career, if I remember correctly.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 24, 2013 04:06 PM (oZr5y)

48 Andy, how is your sheriff on CCW?

Posted by: Truman North at March 24, 2013 04:06 PM (I2LwF)

49 What an awesome gun. In one shot, you could pick off the deer and the horse it rode in on.

Posted by: sTevo at March 24, 2013 04:07 PM (VMcEw)

50 They want the 50 cal just in case godzilla shows up in Albany and threatens Cuomo's whinny ass. Oh, and to slaughter clinger peasants on the other side of a reinforced concrete wall when they refuse to turn in their 1022s with the evil rotary 10 round assault mag. Biden says most 1022 owners have at least 2 of those assault mags. Some have even more, like 5 or 6.

Posted by: angel with a sword at March 24, 2013 04:07 PM (mDVDU)

BMG?

The used to make me buy music from them.

Posted by: baitnswitch at March 24, 2013 04:07 PM (O1jaY)

52 I'd like one, but I think I'll hold out for a 20mm.

Posted by: BignJames at March 24, 2013 04:09 PM (j7iSn)

53 In one shot, you could pick off the deer and the horse it rode in on. Deer on horseback, your argument is invalid.

Posted by: Pope Cavil I, Cylon Catholic Church at March 24, 2013 04:09 PM (mbxHg)

54 From a comment at the link, some county sheriff out there tried to justify purchase of .50 BMG by talking about the capability to stop truck bombs. I guess the next time the police have foreknowledge of the make, model, license number, and target of a truck-borne suicide bomb they can hop right on that.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 24, 2013 04:10 PM (csi6Y)

55 I beg to differ.

Posted by: Gary Larson at March 24, 2013 04:10 PM (VMcEw)

56 :::: 49 What an awesome gun. In one shot, you could pick off the deer and the horse it rode in on. :::: hahahaahaha

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 24, 2013 04:10 PM (csi6Y)

57 Heh. That's cute.

Posted by: Zombie John Holmes at March 24, 2013 04:10 PM (I2LwF)

Re mikey mooooooore

THAT SHE BLOVIATES, RELEASE HARPOONS.

Posted by: aptinkhab at March 24, 2013 04:11 PM (O1jaY)

NYC citizens relying on the police to protect them keep getting the government they voted for.....

Karma.Is.A.Bitch.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at March 24, 2013 04:11 PM (ADnWI)

60 I'll take two please. w/ extra mags.

"His and Hers"

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 24, 2013 04:11 PM (4Mv1T)

61 I'd like one, but I think I'll hold out for a 20mm.

Maybe radar guided using depleted uranium rounds.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 24, 2013 04:11 PM (oZr5y)

62 The used to make me buy music from them. 'Buying' music....how 80s.

Posted by: zsasz at March 24, 2013 04:11 PM (MMC8r)

63 If I had a motorcycle, I would need one of those guns for either side of the chassis.

Posted by: Truman North at March 24, 2013 04:12 PM (I2LwF)

64 "Their SWAT teams justify them as vehicle stoppers? That's all I can figure." The .50 cal is primarily an anti-material weapon, meaning lightly armored vehicles like APCs and self-propelled artillery. Any old rifle will punch through an SUV and out the other side. Most likely it's more of the macho bullshit militarization that's going on in law enforcement now. These guys don't want to be cops who have to come and break up your drunken shouting match with the old lady. They want to be paramilitaries, decked out with "tactical" belt buckles and shoelaces.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 04:13 PM (8T0N0)

65 Slightly on topic but how come you guys never told me there is a movie called Zombie Ass - Toilet of the Dead, seriously? You would think that Ace could at least do a review. http://goo.gl/mY3Xe

Posted by: Ghostly Aspiration at March 24, 2013 04:13 PM (2U4NN)

66 I was thinking about the North Hollywood bank robbery in 1997 where police had to go to a local gun shop to get AR-15 rifles as they were outgunned by the bad guys. Would suck for NY cops if this happens to them.

Posted by: Cheri at March 24, 2013 04:13 PM (EAgmr)

67 54 Yoshi,

or the constables can just shoot at any random vehicle matching generally the description of the suspected device bearing truck...

we call this the "LAPD" method

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 04:14 PM (LRFds)

68 >>>If I had a motorcycle, I would need one of those guns for either side of the chassis.

Jones in CO has the only known two-wheeled vehicle able to prevent backing-up if you fired those muthuscooters.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 24, 2013 04:15 PM (4Mv1T)

69 These guys don't want to be cops who have to come and break up your drunken shouting match with the old lady. They want to be paramilitaries, decked out with "tactical" belt buckles and shoelaces.

The feds have a legitimate need for hardcore paramilitary shit. Remember this dicey operation?

http://tinyurl.com/a9yjo8g

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 24, 2013 04:15 PM (oZr5y)

70 66 Cheri,

no it'd be karmic since they have made certain that every law abiding citizen is outgunned as well....

they are citizens not soldiers and not overlords...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 04:15 PM (LRFds)

71 I giggled at "tactical shoelaces."

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 24, 2013 04:16 PM (hO8IJ)

72 17 Billy Bob, in case Michael Moore goes on a rampage at White Castle? I thought that's why they bought the RPG's?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 24, 2013 04:16 PM (wR+pz)

73 69 Cicero,

that child was fully loaded...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 04:16 PM (LRFds)

74 I miss the Good Old Days when Barney kept his ammunition in his front pocket.

Posted by: ALH at March 24, 2013 04:16 PM (eqV3Q)

62 zsa-zsa

touche.

BMG was like a Book of the month club for buying them old fashioned CD's . Get a bunch for pennies then pay a lot for your other "commitment" CD's. Nice racket.

Posted by: aptinkhab at March 24, 2013 04:18 PM (O1jaY)

76 :::: we call this the "LAPD" method :::: rofl Hey guys, you know what makes an awesome truck bomb stopper? An AT-4. Waiting for the first wrongful rocketing death. I mean, the first ten at once.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 24, 2013 04:18 PM (csi6Y)

77 Yeah, I remember a case where bad guy was in a little country store near or in a national park and he killed one ranger and shot at a couple of others who drove up. The NPS only one long gun that they had to share so they had to hunker down and wait for someone to get it and bring it back.

Posted by: Ghostly Aspiration at March 24, 2013 04:19 PM (2U4NN)

78 :::: These guys don't want to be cops who have to come and break up your drunken shouting match with the old lady. They want to be paramilitaries, decked out with "tactical" belt buckles and shoelaces. :::: Ever seen 5.11 Tactical EMT pants? High speed indeed.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 24, 2013 04:19 PM (csi6Y)

79 @64 What I meant was a 50 cal will punch an engine block, not much else will. That was my thinking any way. By the way, I shot one of those fuckers down at Ft Bragg last spring. Unfucking believable.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 24, 2013 04:20 PM (wR+pz)

80 Given the potential for over penetration, the justification statement to procure a .50BMG must be a hoot.

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2013 04:20 PM (+NNlC)

81 buying them old fashioned CD's

Ah yes. I remember '89 like yesterday. Trying to buy some vinyl at Record Bar in Cameron Village in Raleigh, and they laughed me out of the store. Had to go out and spend $400 on a Denon CD player.

Now, back to firearms.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 24, 2013 04:20 PM (4Mv1T)

82 I wonder the bodyguards for Cuomo and Nanny are carrying?

Posted by: Cheri at March 24, 2013 04:20 PM (EAgmr)

83 :::: 81 Given the potential for over penetration, the justification statement to procure a .50BMG must be a hoot. :::: That's why the AT-4 is the conflict resolution weapon of the future.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 24, 2013 04:21 PM (csi6Y)

84 I wonder the bodyguards for Cuomo and Nanny are carrying?

Just go about your business,citizen.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 24, 2013 04:21 PM (oZr5y)

85 That She Bloviates?

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 24, 2013 04:22 PM (MhA4j)

86 "If I had a motorcycle, I would need one of those guns for either side of the chassis." The Germans actually came up with a prototype wherein they welded an antitank cannon on to a motorcycle in WW II. It was fixed, so you'd have to drive at the enemy tank, fire it, and then veer off like a dive bomber making a bombing run. They abandoned the idea. I think there was a recoil problem.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 04:23 PM (8T0N0)

87 That's why the AT-4 is the conflict resolution weapon of the future.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 24, 2013 08:21 PM (csi6Y)

That's until the bad guys start investing in explosive reactive armor. This will then be used to justify domestic Hellfire-armed Predator drone usage.

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at March 24, 2013 04:23 PM (aozUR)

88 "Thar she bloviates", is the common expression used aboard a whaling vessels. But you gotta learn to say it in Japanese.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 24, 2013 04:23 PM (4Mv1T)

Watch the cops do straw-man sales thru depts in other states. For them I'm sure it'll be "legal".

Cut. Jib. Newsletter.

Posted by: Eric Holder at March 24, 2013 04:24 PM (vN7SY)

90 "Yeah, I remember a case where bad guy was in a little country store near or in a national park and he killed one ranger and shot at a couple of others who drove up. The NPS only one long gun that they had to share so they had to hunker down and wait for someone to get it and bring it back." I have no problem with cops having a rifle in the trunk for these kinds of situations. But a .223, fer Chrissake, not a .50.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 04:25 PM (8T0N0)

91 88 Prof Tkopf,

yeah of course LOSAT sorta negates the ERA issue and is the nice answer to several raw physics equations in the age old "armor v pen" wars

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 04:25 PM (LRFds)

92 I never knew someone had had the stones to name a weapon the BFG.

I thought that would be reserved for a phased plasma rifle of at least 40 watts.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 24, 2013 04:25 PM (Kpn/z)

93 Posted by: pat at March 24, 2013 07:56 PM (jlQR7) As usual, you forgot the "yet" qualifier !

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 24, 2013 04:25 PM (Cnqmv)

94 They should just put us in all in jail pre-emptivly. It would solve all kinds of leftist headaches. Oh, wait, Agenda 21

Posted by: Truman North at March 24, 2013 04:26 PM (hjSgF)

95 95 Truman North,

yeah I am wondering if we'll get to see Cyrpicots be the world's largest open aired prison soon...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 04:27 PM (LRFds)

96 sorry to bring this over from the previous thread but are those cheerleaders also on the hot in cleveland show?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 24, 2013 04:27 PM (Z9EHQ)

97 yeah of course LOSAT sorta negates the ERA issue and is the nice answer to several raw physics equations in the age old "armor v pen" wars

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 08:25 PM (LRFds)

Bad guys will, of course, counter the domestic Hellfire-armed Predator drones with illegally acquired Starstreak missiles. You know, the cool British ones that launch three separate laser guided submunitions as it approaches the target.

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at March 24, 2013 04:28 PM (aozUR)

98 I like this thread. Instead of discussing the run o' the mill guns we already have, it's all about the guns/rockets/C-4 we'd LIKE to have.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 24, 2013 04:28 PM (4Mv1T)

99
It just gets better. In NY (my state), 51 of the 62 counties oppose the safe act.

The majority of Sheriffs and local LEOs are saying they will not enforce it because of the constitutionality factor.

We--those of us who are fighting it--will try to shove it right back in Gunner's face this Summer. Lots of demonstrations, etc.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 24, 2013 04:29 PM (SAMxH)

100 The police should not have access to any weapon that a private citizen does not also equally have access to. Similarly, Police should be able to do nothing that a private citizen can not also do, without a warrant.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 24, 2013 04:29 PM (Vk2pI)

101 'yeah of course LOSAT sorta negates the ERA issue and is the nice answer to several raw physics equations in the age old "armor v pen" wars' Too bad they cancelled LOSAT. That was a badass promo video.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 04:30 PM (8T0N0)

102 Dragons teeth will stop a vehicle too...and you can probably buy 20+ sets of them for the cost of the .50

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 24, 2013 04:30 PM (/gHaE)

103 101: I see no legal reson for that not to be the case unless you wish to claim that the police are part of the military

Posted by: Alex Stephens at March 24, 2013 04:30 PM (aPAIU)

104 They abandoned the idea. I think there was a recoil problem.
Posted by: Ace's liver
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They might have won a few more battles had they considered firing while driving away from the tank?

Posted by: Gary Larson at March 24, 2013 04:30 PM (VMcEw)

105 Hmm, this reminds me of something I wanted to throw out there. The opening scene in the first X-man movie is a Senate hearing about the danger of the mutant population. Now I'm aware X-men is a forced gay discrimination analogy, but Jean Gray was using pro-gun talking points to push the mutant side. I.e., Senator: Are mutants dangerous? Jean Gray: The wrong person behind a wheel of a car is dangerous. The whole idea was to block "mutant registration," to which the rejoinder is "what do the mutants have to hide?" So does the comparison hold up?

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 24, 2013 04:31 PM (csi6Y)

106 Damn Far Side Sock

Posted by: sTevo at March 24, 2013 04:31 PM (VMcEw)

107 shit----that = thar

Posted by: aptinkhab at March 24, 2013 04:31 PM (O1jaY)

108 100 It just gets better. In NY (my state), 51 of the 62 counties oppose the safe act. The majority of Sheriffs and local LEOs are saying they will not enforce it because of the constitutionality factor. We--those of us who are fighting it--will try to shove it right back in Gunner's face this Summer. Lots of demonstrations, etc. Posted by: irongrampa at March 24, 2013 08:29 PM (SAMxH) That is surprising, so some liberal counties also don't support it

Posted by: Alex Stephens at March 24, 2013 04:31 PM (aPAIU)

109 Similarly, Police should be able to do nothing that a private citizen can not also do, without a warrant. Posted by: The Political Hat at March 24, 2013 08:29 PM (Vk2pI) the only thing I would like to bring over from england and modify slightly is the rule that allows women to piss in bobbies hats under certain circumstances. you ought to be able to piss in hats and shoes of dhs agents.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 24, 2013 04:31 PM (Z9EHQ)

110 102 ace's liver,

yup...

I kinda wish WW3 1986 had happened...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 04:31 PM (LRFds)

111 Inside, most cops are secretly Rambo. The last hope standing against the criminal hordes.

Sort of like a Barney Fife on Steroids.

That's why the wannabe's play dress up with the vests and helmets and gear harnessess and knee pads and gloves and masks and goggles.

It's either that or Imperial Storm Troopers.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 24, 2013 04:31 PM (Kpn/z)

112 Girl cuts my hair once in a while is married to a NY BCI undercover dick doing drug interdiction work. She talks about him while she snips. I'm thinking, how under fucking cover is that? He might need the fifty, cause his cover is so blown he can't get within a mile of any of the dealers.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at March 24, 2013 04:32 PM (EMdmK)

113 106: depends on what the mutation does to the head

Posted by: Alex Stephens at March 24, 2013 04:32 PM (aPAIU)

114 "They might have won a few more battles had they considered firing while driving away from the tank?" I can't imagine how close you'd have to be to actually hit anything, even if you were driving toward it. Aiming through a mirror as you're driving away? You might as well just bring a limpet mine.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 04:33 PM (8T0N0)

115 Inside, most cops are secretly Rambo. The last hope standing against the criminal hordes. I don't know, they seem like Robin Hoods in California. They see all of us as revenue.

Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2013 04:33 PM (FcR7P)

116 Silly folks. They need a long range weapon to reach out and touch the family dog. Then they can proceed with their no-knock raid on the wrong house.

Posted by: RWC at March 24, 2013 04:34 PM (sqp6o)

117

I see that Johnny Backstabber McCain is leading the charge to fold on universal background checks, thus effectively establishing a national gun registry.

As usual, thanks for nothing, John.

Posted by: Sam Adams at March 24, 2013 04:34 PM (ME8AG)

118 The logical upgrade path, .38 revolver to .40 Glock to 12G, then .50BMG, the AT4 ( or a thermobaric Russian model, if the local FD approves), then LOSAT, followed by THEL.

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2013 04:34 PM (Is+Nb)

119 116: and they are unionized, nothing truly good is unionized

Posted by: Alex Stephens at March 24, 2013 04:34 PM (aPAIU)

120 112 Bitter Clinger,

Well the 501st doesn't have defacto Blue Knight Constitution wrecking clowns in the ranks...

and their synchronized swimming team is great ever since they figured out how not to drown by taking most of the armor off...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 04:35 PM (LRFds)

121 :::: The majority of Sheriffs and local LEOs are saying they will not enforce it because of the constitutionality factor. :::: As a fellow upstate NYer, I am heartened. Side note: is the 1911 now the legal gun of choice in NY now that Cuomo is adjusting the law to make it barely legal?

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 24, 2013 04:35 PM (csi6Y)

122 119: those look more like mortar rounds then bullets

Posted by: Alex Stephens at March 24, 2013 04:35 PM (aPAIU)

123 "I see that Johnny Backstabber McCain is leading the charge to fold on universal background checks, thus effectively establishing a national gun registry." But the FBI deletes the request as soon as it replies. 'Cept, of course, for the backup.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 04:36 PM (8T0N0)

124 Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2013 08:33 PM (FcR7P)

No, that's how THEY see themselves.

WE see them as Sheriff's of Nottingham.

Enforcing the bogus laws of King John against the peasantry.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 24, 2013 04:36 PM (Kpn/z)

125 124: that guy needs to retire

Posted by: Alex Stephens at March 24, 2013 04:37 PM (aPAIU)

126 >> Andy, how is your sheriff on CCW? Police Chief, you mean? Golden.

Posted by: Andy at March 24, 2013 04:37 PM (OZPoa)

127 Alex, the fun factor is enormous

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2013 04:37 PM (Is+Nb)

128 128: of that I am sure.

Posted by: Alex, Seasonal Pyromaniac at March 24, 2013 04:38 PM (aPAIU)

129 Let's not cop-bash too much, I know a lot of them in a particular Northeastern Illinois city that would proudly be members of this Horde. They work in Rahmistan.

Posted by: aptinkhab at March 24, 2013 04:38 PM (O1jaY)

130

Jim Carrey is just talking out of his ass again.

HAHA...see what I did there?

Posted by: Albie Damned at March 24, 2013 04:39 PM (Yhu4q)

131 Still waiting for a police-issue AC-130. The old school one with the 105mm howitzer. I could see California Highway Patrol with one.

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at March 24, 2013 04:39 PM (aozUR)

132 130: Can the police not join the union in a right to work state?

Posted by: Alex, Seasonal Pyromaniac at March 24, 2013 04:39 PM (aPAIU)

133 But the FBI deletes the request as soon as it replies. 'Cept, of course, for the backup.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 08:36 PM (8T0N0)

And they then leave it on a server of 6 months... without access... and thus it becomes 'abandoned data', which under Federal Law, you do NOT need a Search Warrant to access.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 24, 2013 04:40 PM (lZBBB)

134 We--those of us who are fighting it--will try to shove it right back in Gunner's face this Summer. Lots of demonstrations, etc.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 24, 2013 08:29 PM (SAMxH)

I read (but haven't confirmed) that 62 out of 64 county sheriffs in CO have also said that they will not enforce the new gun law.

The law takes effect July 1st. One CO Sheriff said that as far as he's concerned, every legal gun he sees was purchased prior to July 1.

Awesome.

Posted by: Cheri at March 24, 2013 04:40 PM (EAgmr)

135 That is surprising, so some liberal counties also don't support it

Police generally don't like unfunded mandates from on high taking away from their normal duties.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 24, 2013 04:40 PM (/gHaE)

136 Greetings: What's left of my cranial capacity remembers back a decade or two to a bit of commotion in the law enforcement industry. It seems it's paid members were concerned that their nominal opponents, criminals, that is, were better armed than they were as the latter had semi-automatic pistols while the officers were condemned to the revolvers of the days of yore. Not too long after, our rulers found the wherewithal to supply their officers with semi-automatics with large capacity (10+ rounds) magazines. Now if one follows that logic, it seems peculiar to me that, in states like California, the citizenry is prohibited from having similar weapons to what their actions admit officers need to protect themselves from criminals. This seems to me to be legally unfair in an "equal protection" kind of way and yet there has been no legal challenge in that regard.

Posted by: 11B40 at March 24, 2013 04:40 PM (qNPqi)

137 134: So they already have data on legal firearms?

Posted by: Alex, Seasonal Pyromaniac at March 24, 2013 04:40 PM (aPAIU)

138 If I still lived in Texas, I'd have a Barrett. There's nowhere to shoot one around here, because 1,000 yards pretty much gets me into another state or the Atlantic Ocean.

Posted by: Andy at March 24, 2013 04:41 PM (OZPoa)

139 "Side note: is the 1911 now the legal gun of choice in NY now that Cuomo is adjusting the law to make it barely legal?" Is that what the seven round thing is all about? To allow flush magazines in .45s but nothing more? Even here in Commiefornia we can have ten. I used to have a 9mm with 15 round magazines - the idea was if I was ever in an honest-to-God gunfight I could keep shooting the bad guy until he went down. With a ten round limit I'm thinking "well, I need a more powerful round if I have fewer". Not sure if that's what they intended.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 04:41 PM (8T0N0)

140 93 I never knew someone had had the stones to name a weapon the BFG. Well, you know they nick name for the B-52? BUF. Big Ugly Fucker.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 24, 2013 04:41 PM (wR+pz)

141 Posted by: aptinkhab at March 24, 2013 08:38 PM (O1jaY)

If they're acting as PEACE officers, then I have no problem with cops.

Too many get into LE for reasons that are, shall we say, suspect and have aggression issues.

They're mostly the ones who get in out of school rather than those that spend some time in real life or the military.

Just like every judge and prosecutor should spend a week in jail, every cop should get "stop and frisked" a few times.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 24, 2013 04:42 PM (Kpn/z)

142 136: And there lies the answer; but sir, you have not given us enough money to enforce this good law of yours

Posted by: Alex, Seasonal Pyromaniac at March 24, 2013 04:42 PM (aPAIU)

143 Alex, I lost a girlfriend over the observation that good explosion can be better then sex, if your at the right distance. Word got back to her, and she was offended ... Funny thing is I was referring to three days with a philapina LBFM in Taiwan. She didn't even rate illegal fireworks,

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2013 04:42 PM (Is+Nb)

144 @ 122

Heh. Of course--how could it not be?

Actually, most all of the Law people are being very quiet about the mag thing, since it will affect them too.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 24, 2013 04:42 PM (SAMxH)

145

The law takes effect July 1st. One CO Sheriff said that as far as he's concerned, every legal gun he sees was purchased prior to July 1.

Awesome.

Posted by: Cheri at March 24, 2013 08:40 PM (EAgmr)

This is both good, and bad, IMO...

Yes its good they will not enforce a bad law... but... it also brings on the Selective enforcment of the Law... which the LEFT wants, as it chips away at the very foundation of the idea we are a Republic.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 24, 2013 04:43 PM (lZBBB)

146 I really could have gone for KFC tonight but there's no way I can get there before they close.

Posted by: Truman North at March 24, 2013 04:43 PM (I2LwF)

147 144: I would say it differently, in that sex is as good as illegal fireworks.

Posted by: Alex, Seasonal Pyromaniac at March 24, 2013 04:44 PM (aPAIU)

148 IIIIIIIII LIKE IT!

Posted by: Emil at March 24, 2013 04:44 PM (79AXR)

149 "Let's not cop-bash too much, I know a lot of them in a particular Northeastern Illinois city that would proudly be members of this Horde. They work in Rahmistan." Well, maybe he can give a plausible explanation as to why a cop would ever need to be sending .50 BMG down range.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 04:44 PM (8T0N0)

150 Oh, so you are going to take our money? I guess I'll be taking our natural gas elsewhere. Enjoy the weather. Winter is still coming. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/24/cyprus-bank-levy-leave-euro

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at March 24, 2013 04:44 PM (xXCNf)

151
Man if we would have had that we would have been able to kill those two women we mistook in a black car for a black man ex-officer in a silver truck.

Posted by: LA Police Dept. at March 24, 2013 04:45 PM (IY7Ir)

152 @146 Sounds like standard operating procedure in CO. Possession of dope is a federal offense, they don't seem to have any plans on "upholding that law".

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 24, 2013 04:45 PM (wR+pz)

153 Sorry, time as gone past and some may have forgotten.

The BFG was the primo weapon in DOOM. Monster plasma output that could put down ANYTHING it hit.

I notice that the weapon is called BMG by one person and a BFG in the email response.

Either way, I thought it was amusing.

It DOES deserve the moniker of BIG F__ING GUN but what do we call the lasers when they appear?

I like to worry about the important stuff.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 24, 2013 04:45 PM (Kpn/z)

154 "149 IIIIIIIII LIKE IT! Posted by: Emil at March 24, 2013 08:44 PM (79AXR)" Talk about dating yourself. That movie came out twenty five years ago.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 04:45 PM (8T0N0)

155 139 If I still lived in Texas, I'd have a Barrett. There's nowhere to shoot one around here, because 1,000 yards pretty much gets me into another state or the Atlantic Ocean. Posted by: Andy at March 24, 2013 08:41 PM (OZPoa) I'd love to have a chance to fire one. But I don't know anyone who has one. And I'm not sure where there's a range that could handle it. They've got a couple Barretts for sale at the range I use. Gorgeous.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 24, 2013 04:45 PM (GEICT)

156 150: ummm we are dealing with mutants, yah, mutants

Posted by: Supposed uber moron police officer at March 24, 2013 04:45 PM (aPAIU)

157 138 134: So they already have data on legal firearms?

Except that a check is not necessarily a purchase, and not all purchases necessarily involve checks.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 24, 2013 04:45 PM (/gHaE)

158 138 134: So they already have data on legal firearms?

Posted by: Alex, Seasonal Pyromaniac at March 24, 2013 08:40 PM (aPAIU)

Unknown... but the way the data laws are currently written, there are HUGE loopholes the Government 'can' use.... and the CIA and DHS does... to look at data 'we' think of as private.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 24, 2013 04:45 PM (lZBBB)

159 Yes its good they will not enforce a bad law... but... it also brings on the Selective enforcement of the Law... which the LEFT wants, as it chips away at the very foundation of the idea we are a Republic.

Posted by: Romeo13

Is John Corzine in jail?

No? Ok, a little late for that concern.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 24, 2013 04:46 PM (UCv7P)

160 @154 Wow, I forgot all about that, course I haven't played in years.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 24, 2013 04:46 PM (wR+pz)

161 How long before they get hit by Anti-Collusion charges?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at March 24, 2013 04:47 PM (X/+QT)

162 162 How long before they get hit by Anti-Collusion charges? About the same time CO takes back the legislature. 2014?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 24, 2013 04:47 PM (wR+pz)

163 I want to slag the mutants with my bfg

Posted by: Supposed uber moron police officer at March 24, 2013 04:47 PM (aPAIU)

164 Selective enforcement of the law brings the law into disrespect.

Also, can you be SURE the cop/sheriff/deputy will let YOUR weapon slide? Or will they be forced by pols to do so or be fired?

Then it becomes a game where we have an entire community of people sneaking around to prevent themselves from being arrested and losing their careers/families.

Oh wait. We already have one like that; they're called criminals.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 24, 2013 04:48 PM (Kpn/z)

165 "Is John Corzine in jail?" You wanna shut down a lefty conversation about "banksters"? Just ask that question.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 04:48 PM (8T0N0)

166 Romeo13 - true. But I guess that it is the best that we can hope for right now.

Posted by: Cheri at March 24, 2013 04:49 PM (EAgmr)

167 Suddenly Cyprus feels like the Taliban when a JDAM strikes
http://youtu.be/l1OqbwtIPy4

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2013 04:49 PM (6EgxM)

168

Is John Corzine in jail?

No? Ok, a little late for that concern.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 24, 2013 08:46 PM (UCv7P)

Thats THEM doing it... if WE call for the selective enforcment of the law, we can't really bitch about THEM not enforcing the law, now can we?

You know.... those dam 'Oaths' they take? to Enforce the law?

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 24, 2013 04:49 PM (lZBBB)

169 169: I thought they took oaths to uphold the constitution.

Posted by: Alex at March 24, 2013 04:50 PM (aPAIU)

170 There's this: http://preview.tinyurl.com/d2xnxnk .45/70 Revolver, 10-inch Barrel BFR45/70 .45/70, 10Â” Barrel BFR Revolver MSRP: $1,050.00 Long Cylinder, Stainless Steel

Posted by: Grover's at March 24, 2013 04:50 PM (9aKQB)

171 >> I'd love to have a chance to fire one. I've shot the M82A1. Ho-lee fuck. It's an unbelievable piece of machinery.

Posted by: Andy at March 24, 2013 04:50 PM (OZPoa)

172 This is definitely the feel-good story of the day.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 24, 2013 04:50 PM (JDIKC)

173

Posted by: Alex at March 24, 2013 08:50 PM (aPAIU)

Thats Military.... and some other offices... but most LEOs also say they will enforce the law.... just like Military says they will follow Legal Orders...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 24, 2013 04:51 PM (lZBBB)

174 "The best way to get rid of a bad law is to enforce it strictly."

-Crap someone said Lincoln said.

Looks like the Dems realize this which is why they're so good at selective enforcement.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at March 24, 2013 04:51 PM (X/+QT)

175 I am currently reprising the entire series.

From Ultimate DOOM (4 episodes 8-9 missions per) to Doom II, TNT and PLutonia (both extensions of Doom II).

Then I'll wrap up with Doom III and Resurrection of Evil.

I don't have cable and I've seen all my movies too many times. So this is my current time waster in between projects around the home.

(plus it's been to cold to work in the shop.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 24, 2013 04:51 PM (Kpn/z)

176 Oh wait. We already have one like that; they're called criminals.

Everybody shall be made a criminal. So it is written, so it shall be done.

Posted by: Your Govt. Pharohs at March 24, 2013 04:51 PM (IY7Ir)

177 I've shot the M82A1. Ho-lee fuck. It's an unbelievable piece of machinery. Posted by: Andy at March 24, 2013 08:50 PM (OZPoa) *jealousy boner*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 24, 2013 04:52 PM (GEICT)

178 >> I notice that the weapon is called BMG by one person and a BFG in the email response. No, the ammunition it shoots in .50 BMG (Browning Machine Gun). John Moses F'n Browning. Again!

Posted by: Andy at March 24, 2013 04:52 PM (OZPoa)

179 178: (pants suggestively)

Posted by: Alex at March 24, 2013 04:53 PM (aPAIU)

180 Do they come with vehicle mounts?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 24, 2013 04:53 PM (n8LUb)

181 Similarly, Police should be able to do nothing that a private citizen can not also do, without a warrant. *** So... roadside cavity searches are out, then?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2013 04:53 PM (piMMO)

182 "Then it becomes a game where we have an entire community of people sneaking around to prevent themselves from being arrested and losing their careers/families." Yep. It'll be like the 55 mph speed limit - nobody obeys it, but occasionally you'll get a ticket if you get unlucky, the cop's having a bad day, or the state needs money.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 04:54 PM (8T0N0)

183 Grover's, the 5" .500 cal revolver should have a muzzle flash that rivals some flamethrowers.

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2013 04:55 PM (QDOGk)

184 http://what-if.xkcd.com/21/ Using a gun to propel yourself.

Posted by: Alex at March 24, 2013 04:55 PM (aPAIU)

185 I'm just asking now so the answer isn't a spoiler-does anyone else think Andrea is already a walker?

Posted by: Methos at March 24, 2013 04:55 PM (hO9ad)

186 I am ordering a BFG-50A, but I really want the 20mm cannon he its working on. Why? Because I am an American. And I can.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at March 24, 2013 04:56 PM (cvQWY)

187

Methos,

I have the first season of Walking Dead on disc and have never cracked it. Is it worth a shit, or is everyone just too invested in it, waiting for it to get good?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 24, 2013 04:56 PM (JDIKC)

188 So... roadside cavity searches are out, then?

Ha! I had the same thought, NDH. http://tinyurl.com/d58g4j2

Posted by: no good deed at March 24, 2013 04:56 PM (xXCNf)

189 Since we are veering into MMO game area
http://youtu.be/urNyg1ftMIU

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2013 04:57 PM (6EgxM)

190

does anyone else think Andrea is already a walker?

Don't think so. Too stupid.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at March 24, 2013 04:57 PM (vN7SY)

191 186 I am ordering a BFG-50A, but I really want the 20mm cannon he its working on. Why? Because I am an American. And I can.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at March 24, 2013 08:56 PM (cvQWY)

Here ya go...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahti_L-39

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at March 24, 2013 04:57 PM (aozUR)

192 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gryazev-Shipunov_GSh-6-30

Posted by: Alex at March 24, 2013 04:58 PM (aPAIU)

193

150 ace's liver

Just wondering where you reside.

Ever hear about Englewood or the west side of Chicago?

The new wild west. More bangers than po-lice.

Bangers better armed. Would you refuse a superior weapon if in this situation?

Not all LEO's need 'em but some sure do.

I can't be Solomon to say where you split the baby, but until someone has the balls to confront this gang bullshit I say give them an advantage.

Posted by: aptinkhab at March 24, 2013 04:59 PM (O1jaY)

194 "The reverse-boycott continues apace. Well done, Mr. Serbu." The great thing is gun owners are a vindictive lot. If you sell that kind of hardware to cops now you might have to sell your company like the S&W owners did.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 04:59 PM (8T0N0)

195 This one's better. The name means "The Destroyer" in Sanskrit...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidhwansak

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at March 24, 2013 05:00 PM (aozUR)

196
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has emerged as a key player if Senate Democrats are to have any chance of passing legislation to expand background checks for private sales of firearms. A-hole.

link at drudge.

btw, if only the laws that only the liberals want enforced are selectively enforced, you gain nothing by playing along. 2nd Amendment supporting LEO's, judges and prosecutors should not comply.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 24, 2013 05:01 PM (IY7Ir)

197 Not all LEO's need 'em but some sure do.
I can't be Solomon to say where you split the baby, but until someone has the balls to confront this gang bullshit I say give them an advantage.

Better still, give innocent civilians a fighting chance.

Posted by: fluffy at March 24, 2013 05:02 PM (z9HTb)

198 :::: Is that what the seven round thing is all about? To allow flush magazines in .45s but nothing more? :::: No, Cuomo is making a lot of noise about modding it to 10. Apparently the iota of common sense floating around in his brain informed him that nobody makes 7-round magazines.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 24, 2013 05:03 PM (csi6Y)

199

Well y'all ...gotta go in for open heart surgery in the morning.

If'n I don't make it back, it's been real....

Posted by: Albie Damned at March 24, 2013 05:03 PM (Yhu4q)

200 The true revolutionary moves among the population like a fish. Blending in and hiding in the open.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 24, 2013 05:04 PM (Kpn/z)

201 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 24, 2013 08:56 PM (JDIKC) I too am interested in this question, about the later seasons anyway...

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 24, 2013 05:04 PM (csi6Y)

202 I have the first season of Walking Dead on disc and have never cracked it. Is it worth a shit, or is everyone just too invested in it, waiting for it to get good?

It's good enough as a novelty. The second season was mostly worthless (it was done in fall/spring parts and the fall was boring as hell). It has been better this season, in the same way that STNG and B5 got better after the first season).

Posted by: Methos at March 24, 2013 05:05 PM (hO9ad)

203 aptinkhab, I used train LEOs, wtf are you going to do with .50BMG in an urban area? A sniper need white collar sign off to fire a .308 round.

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2013 05:05 PM (sTfkB)

204 The last Lahti I saw for sale was not exactly cheap. Same with Solothurns. And those are 60+ years old. Mark's new stuff will be new, and well made.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at March 24, 2013 05:05 PM (cvQWY)

205 Best wishes Albie. Shouting out to the Big Man now.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada (Team Plover) at March 24, 2013 05:06 PM (jopHG)

206

197 fluffy

Agreed.

Posted by: aptinkhab at March 24, 2013 05:07 PM (O1jaY)

207 Albie Damned- Godspeed sir.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 24, 2013 05:07 PM (4Mv1T)

208
Albie, my prayers and best wishes for you.

I'll be looking for you in the future.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 24, 2013 05:07 PM (IY7Ir)

209 If your going up to 20mm, you might as well go all the way to mortars.

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2013 05:07 PM (sTfkB)

210 "Just wondering where you reside. Ever hear about Englewood or the west side of Chicago? The new wild west. More bangers than po-lice. Bangers better armed. Would you refuse a superior weapon if in this situation? Not all LEO's need 'em but some sure do." Only if they're planning on shooting said gangbangers from 2000 yds. Little hard to order a guy to drop his weapon at that distance. This isn't the kind of rifle you're leveling at a guy from behind your cruiser door. I can't think of a scenario where a cop would need something like this. I'm open to arguments from the other side, but I've never heard a convincing one. Have drug dealers been buying APCs lately?

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 05:08 PM (8T0N0)

211 Damn Albie, have a relative pop in here and let's us know how you are doing. Don't try and sneak an iPad past the ICU nurses.

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2013 05:09 PM (sTfkB)

212 Ace thread up

Posted by: Alex at March 24, 2013 05:09 PM (aPAIU)

213

203 Jean

Are you in a large city?

Posted by: aptinkhab at March 24, 2013 05:10 PM (O1jaY)

214 >>>>You know.... those dam 'Oaths' they take? to Enforce the law?<<<<<

Isn't this just another manifestation of checks and balances?
The legislature passes a dipshit constitutionally questionable law and the executive says "enforce it yourself". Isn't that all that really happens when the SCOTUS declares a law unconstitutional? They can't tell the congress what laws to pass or the executive what to enforce (co-equal branches) but they tell the lower courts which cases to hear and which to dismiss.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 24, 2013 05:15 PM (gh4OI)

215 Albie, good luck

Posted by: chemjeff at March 24, 2013 05:16 PM (BBWjt)

216 Bitter Clinger and All That
I still play the old 2d version of Doom. The big fella, Cyberdemon I think they call him, would take a number of BFG hits to kill, but that was just about the only weapon which could put him down. With lesser monsters, the BFG would clear an entire room with one shot.

Posted by: Rule #2 at March 24, 2013 05:17 PM (CypDC)

217 DC, I've taught LEO SWAT in many others. The police aren't out gunned, they are undertrained. That said, more carbines wouldn't be bad idea. I hate seeing the cops deploy tactically with pistols. Each cruiser should have a shotties and a carbine, not just the special guys. The average officer is far more accurate with a carbine, and the rounds have the same down range lethality.

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2013 05:19 PM (fW/Ev)

218 Best wishes, Albie.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 24, 2013 05:19 PM (JQuNB)

219 Jean, mortars are indirect fire weapons. Don't need one unless a stand up fight occurs here in the US. But a 20mm? That's just gonna be a fun long range target shoot.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at March 24, 2013 05:23 PM (cvQWY)

220

Has anyone asked that cunt Jim Carrey about his role in Kickass 2 coming out in August. He uses guns as Colonel Stars and Stripes. So it's ok for Mr. Want-a-be gun banner to use guns as props ?

EoJ I own a 1895CB too. Did you get rid of the stupid cross-bolt safety on yours?

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 24, 2013 05:25 PM (hwOxH)

221 144 LBFM......Great googley moogely!!! I haven't heard that moniker in a while. Hehehe... :-D :-D

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 24, 2013 05:26 PM (DS2Ry)

222 Good luck, Albie.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 05:30 PM (8T0N0)

223 hello? this thread on?

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 24, 2013 05:31 PM (zzeVM)

224 So the NY LEO's can't get 50 cals. Bwah, hah, hah, hah, hah! Gungrabbing Nazis meet the BMG soup Nazi! No soup for you!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at March 24, 2013 05:32 PM (Sedwk)

225 199 Well y'all ...gotta go in for open heart surgery in the morning. If'n I don't make it back, it's been real.... Posted by: Albie Damned at March 24, 2013 09:03 PM (Yhu4q) Had a triple just over 6 yrs. ago....not too bad...wouldn't want to do it again....they'll take great care of you. Good luck!

Posted by: BignJames at March 24, 2013 05:32 PM (j7iSn)

226 "The police aren't out gunned, they are undertrained."

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2013 09:19 PM (fW/Ev)

Exactly! 100% correct.

Any cop (yeah, I'm looking at you NYPD) who can't hit a bad guy without hitting three or four bystanders needs some serious training.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 24, 2013 05:34 PM (3Mkrp)

227 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 24, 2013 09:34 PM (3Mkrp) I thought NYPD were pretty good shots....didn't they hit that African guy 40+ times?

Posted by: BignJames at March 24, 2013 05:37 PM (j7iSn)

228 "I thought NYPD were pretty good shots....didn't they hit that African guy 40+ times?" Yeah, but how many crates of ammo did it take to get to 40?

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 24, 2013 05:40 PM (8T0N0)

229 228 Ace's Liver,

well divide up 2.8 billion rounds by 20....

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 24, 2013 05:41 PM (LRFds)

230 One shot, one hobo? Won't .50 hits make them difficult to skin?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 24, 2013 05:44 PM (u82oZ)

231

Well y'all ...gotta go in for open heart surgery in the morning.

If'n I don't make it back, it's been real....

Posted by: Albie Damned at March 24, 2013 09:03 PM (Yhu4q)

Best wishes, Albie!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 24, 2013 08:07 PM (IDSI7)

232 I have a tactical, paramilitary, fully automatic yo-yo.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 24, 2013 10:52 PM (7xPCu)

233

This is a no-brainer anyway. If civilians don't "need" a .50BMG, why the hell would law enforcement "need" one?

Kudos to the gun guys.

Posted by: Sam In VA at March 25, 2013 04:23 AM (rFiOs)

234 Hopefully the beginning of denying the little fuckers a whole lot more. Someone, I think it was here, pointed out that the US Government does not have any of its own arsenals any more; EVERYTHING comes from private industry. What private industry giveth, private industry can taketh away. When they go after the private industry, that's when you know it's no longer a democracy.

Posted by: perturbed at March 25, 2013 04:55 AM (u6Ueb)

235

keep up the pressure!!!

Posted by: treiz at March 25, 2013 07:18 AM (FwOuu)

236 ...the hell does LE need a .50 for anyway? I'm no expert on marksmanship, but I know a couple guys who are. Unless your target is at 1.4 miles or you're shooting through a building, you don't need a .50. There's not application for that in LE.

A well-placed 7.62x59 round at 150 meters will do just fine for LE. Outside of that? You're going to be justifying your shoot to the AUSA and will likely get to spend time picking up the soap.

Posted by: tangonine at March 25, 2013 09:23 AM (x3YFz)

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