June 23, 2013

Weekly Gaming Thread [David]
— Gang of Gaming Morons!

Howdy Morons and Moronettes, it's time for your (mostly) weekly gaming thread. It has been awhile since I have done one, because I have been on a long-term, deep-cover mission for the Vast Rightwing Conspiracy, and I couldn't break my cover. OK, the truth is I am a lazy bastard and since Zakn and Dude were doing so well, I let them take the brunt, but while they are away, I will do my meager part to keep things running. Go ahead and click through to find out the wild and wonderful goings-on in the world of games. Following an online outcry of several weeks, Microsoft reversed itself on the DRM requirements for its next generation console, the Xbox One. Apparently, Microsoft misjudged the tolerance the public has for being required to have their consoles online, even to play single player games. Also, people don't like the idea of "buying" a disc, but not really owning the product. All in all, it appears to have been a sobering experience for the boys at MS. Personally, I am happy they are reversing themselves. I refuse to play a single-player game that requires me to be online (I'm looking at you, Diablo 3). So, I was going to skip the next generation of consoles entirely, at least for awhile. Now, I can tell myself I will get one, if and when I get a job again.

In the meantime, Microsoft's arch-rival, Sony has been making hay touting the fact that their console, the PS4, doesn't have the onerous DRM requirements and it is going to be $100 cheaper than the Xbox One. The interesting thing is how this is a repeat of ancient history. When the PS3 shipped, it was $599, significantly more expensive than its rival, the Xbox 360. Sony assumed the consumers would be glad to lay out the extra cash for the ability to watch Blu-Ray discs as well as play games. Sony was wrong, and Microsoft beat them like a red-headed stepchild in terms of sales because Sony lost sight of the fact that the vast majority of people who buy game consoles are buying GAME consoles, not multimedia devices. Now, we have exactly the same scenario playing out, but the roles are reversed. Will history repeat itself again with the individual actors switching places? It will be interesting to watch and see.

In other gaming news, Developer has halted sale of Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition due to contractual disputes with some of their IP partners. No one is sure what the problem is, but apparently Beamdog and Overhaul, the folks behind the new iOS, PC and Mac ports of the classic isometric RPG from BioWare, have irritated their partners so much that the partners have forced them to stop selling the product until the contractual issues are settled. Furthermore, this has put the fate of the Android version of the game in jeopardy. Finally, this has halted work on a port of Baldur's Gate 2: Enhanced Edition which is said to be well underway. This is unfortunate, as I have always loved the BG series, and it would be a shame if they could not sell the version they have worked so hard on and all new development was killed. Just on the strength of their efforts, the mobile platforms have become a much more compelling gaming platform.

Speaking of old BioWare games on iOS, we mentioned the port of Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic to the iPad a couple of weeks ago, but I have been playing quite a bit of it recently, and it really is pretty amazing how well the game has been translated to the touch interface. Except for movement, which is really lame. However, just about everything else is really smooth, and the touch interface is actually superior to the original interface in many respects. In particular, when you are targeting enemies, it is much more natural just to tap the enemy you want to attack, rather than having to press buttons or tab to cycle among the available foes. If you own a recent iPad, I encourage you to check the game out.

The Australian government has decided to invest $200000 in game developer Team Bondi. The money is going to help finance "Whore of the Orient," a game set in 1936 Shanghai, the "most corrupt and decadent city on the planet" according to a now-deleted page on Team Bondi's web site. The move by Australia to finance a video game company is, no doubt, the first of many government investments we are likely to see in the near future, inspired by Rhode Island's wildly successful bankrolling of Curt Schilling's 38 Studios in 2010.

Guillermo del Toro, at a pre-screening of his new giant monsters vs. giant robots movie "Pacific Rim," discussed the possibility of a game add-on to the movie. He views a game based on the movie not as an "ancillary product," but as a first-class entry on its own, a way to expand the world beyond the realm of the movie. In the event that he could make such a product, he estimated it would take about three years, and he expected it to be "hand-made" and that he would be active in "every stage of it." This is actually a really interesting idea. The format of video games gives the creator a much larger and flexible canvas with which to tell a story, and a brilliant storyteller like del Toro would be in a good position to take maximum advantage of the medium. Marrying the long-form storytelling potential of video games with the talents of a del Toro could give us a game like we have never seen before. I hope he goes forward with it.

I have been playing a lot of Marvel Heroes lately, and I am enjoying it. If any morons are playing it, we should try and get a supergroup up and running. Call it "The Brotherhood of Evil Morons" or something. Discuss further in the comments. If you have anything you want to see in the gaming thread, drop me a line at imapsuedonym@gmail.com.

Posted by: Gang of Gaming Morons! at 09:00 AM | Comments (59)
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1 Where be the cosplay chick?

Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2013 09:14 AM (hO9ad)

2

whoa....what the heck...ghost town here.

Posted by: Guido- 'Who can see new lib voters streaming across the border from his porch' at June 23, 2013 09:18 AM (8I9hB)

3 I wish I played games...I'm just taking up space.

Posted by: Guido- 'Who can see new lib voters streaming across the border from his porch' at June 23, 2013 09:18 AM (8I9hB)

4 but because I'm an asshole I'm going to use up post after post in the top 10

Posted by: Guido- 'Who can see new lib voters streaming across the border from his porch' at June 23, 2013 09:19 AM (8I9hB)

5 I am not real good at the whole blog thing, so I am not really sure how to upload a picture to the site. Maybe one of the cobloggers can pop up in the comments here and larn' me how to do it. I have a pretty nice Lara Croft I was going to put up, but I can't figure out where to upload it.

Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet[/i][/u][/b][/s] at June 23, 2013 09:20 AM (jvdNh)

6 In boning up to build a media PC for our living room. Seeing yesterday that there's an emulator plugin for Mythbuntu as well as Steam now makes me think I'll have enough options to not be concerned about the next generation, either.

Posted by: zsasz at June 23, 2013 09:20 AM (MMC8r)

7 Fifth too!!! I'm crazy with power!!

Posted by: Guido- 'Who can see new lib voters streaming across the border from his porch' at June 23, 2013 09:20 AM (8I9hB)

8

I'm not 100% sure that the Xbox/PS4 thing is an exact repeat of last cycle.

Sony put in a Blu-ray player while HD-DVD was still (arguably) a competing format.  Blu-ray movies were remarkably expensive and HDTVs were still a growing piece of market share (not the market share.)

In effect Sony lost the Console battle to win the DVD format wars.

On the flip side, MS in including a 2nd Gen Kinect with each device, which may (based on this generation's sales) be something consumers want with a fairly tangible right out of the box usefulness.

Now, having said that, there's been a severe shortage of MS showing games that utilize the next gen Kinect's features (and since only games aren't backwards compatible I can't simply pop in DC3 and relish in the better sensing.)

Posted by: tsrblke at June 23, 2013 09:21 AM (GaqMa)

9

I like cross words, does that count?

Posted by: Guido- 'Who can see new lib voters streaming across the border from his porch' at June 23, 2013 09:21 AM (8I9hB)

10 I am not real good at the whole blog thing, so I am not really sure how to upload a picture to the site

Oh, it's easy.

Posted by: Busty lesbian porn, here we come! at June 23, 2013 09:22 AM (hO9ad)

11 "Whore of the Orient?" Sounds interesting...I just hope Nintendo doesn't come out with "Comfort Girls" next.

Posted by: Steff McKee at June 23, 2013 09:23 AM (4kHHz)

12 Ok, the place is packed with people who know stuff now. Have fun all...see you at a later thread.

Posted by: Guido- 'Who can see new lib voters streaming across the border from his porch' at June 23, 2013 09:23 AM (8I9hB)

13 I was thinking about putting this in the post, but I couldn't find the link where I read it, but one of the really intriguing possibilities that might come forward in the next generation of consoles is an Apple branded TV that runs iOS natively. iOS is already becoming a player in the gaming market, and if Apple were to introduce a TV that completely eliminated the need for a separate box to attach to it, that would be a shot across the bow for the console makers. If they also paired it with a low-cost game consolish device that fulfilled the same function for non-Apple televisions, it could create an interesting dynamic in the marketplace.

Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet[/i][/u][/b][/s] at June 23, 2013 09:25 AM (jvdNh)

14 Ironically, though, they won the format wars just as digital delivery made physical formats less and less important. Also, MS wasn't really invested in HD-DVD, since it was an expensive add-on to the basic console. Because they eschewed the advanced playback entirely in the basic console, they were able to cut costs significantly. That being said, I agree that the situation is not completely analogous, however, I still think it is ironical that a similar situation exists with the players reversed. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet[/i][/u][/b][/s] at June 23, 2013 09:29 AM (jvdNh)

15 I only knew one person who had the old HD-DVD format.  It did not last long.  I learned my lesson with the old RCA Video Disk player (analog). I still have it sitting on the top shelf of a closet upstairs.  I even have disks that I never opened. I also got burnt on the Sony Beta machine.  Although technically superior to VHS they also that format war when VHS was the first to come out with movies.


When the movies started coming out I waited a long time to see which format would win before I started in on building a collection.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2013 09:36 AM (lZvxr)

16 they also LOST that format war when VHS was the first to come out with movies.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2013 09:37 AM (lZvxr)

17 Re: Xbone vs PS4 next gen. Having just picked up a PS3 for The Last of US, I have to say Sony has a long way to go before they can match MS with their OS performance. PS3 is horribly clunky compared to 360. I swear it takes 10 minutes just to load up my save and start playing TLoU. You can really tell all the different parts of the system were ad hoc'ed on as after thoughts. Not saying 360 is perfect. But, its waaaaay better than what Sony has pieced together for PS3. This is the one thing that gives me serious pause for concern when deciding between Xbone and PS4.

Posted by: Jaydee at June 23, 2013 09:38 AM (E5DLT)

18 Civ5....another game you must be online to play even in single player mode. Screw them. They'll never get another dime from me.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 23, 2013 09:39 AM (qoQi/)

19 And digital delivery is not good here so I still do Blu-Ray.  Besides, I want my movies in my hand so I can watch them when I want and stop them to get a fresh beer or pee.  My bandwidth is really shitty so formats that promise delivery over cable will not work so good.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2013 09:40 AM (lZvxr)

20 I'm playing the "End of Days" mod for Rome: Total war again. The premise...it's the year 666 and cut-throats, thieves and reprobates are trying to usher in Armageddon
along with their Demonic influenced leaders, and have formed a huge faction that is rolling over most of the known world. You can choose to play them, or Crusader factions (Spain, Germany, England, France, The Holy See), Islam, Hindu, Zoroastrian Persia, China or my favorite, a stranded Japanese army on the Arabian peninsula. Samurais kick ass.

Every game plays out different, in my current the Germans are big, they immediately
attacked England and France (knocked them out) did an  Operation Barbarossa in the east and made an alliance with the steam-rolling evil ones. ROFL. My Samurai are kicking evil ones butt, and the Germans and Jihadis are trying (unsuccessfully) to do  a Pearl Harbor on my guys.I've made an alliance with a pretty strong England, along with the Holy See they're the only Crusaders left. Chinese and Persians at war for centuries.

Awesome music, you feel like Leonidas facing huge armies, dust storms in the desert, lots of planning required to not get over extended and form the right mix of armies for different enemies, plan your economy to support troops.Mod is available at Total War Center, great fun.

Banzai!

Posted by: JHW at June 23, 2013 09:41 AM (B38OD)

21 hmm my section got eaten

Posted by: The Dude at June 23, 2013 09:42 AM (vJdyz)

22 MS is still dead to me with the next generation. I've already pre-ordered two PS4's for the house. I've always been an xbox player in the past with most of my playing on the 360 and a little on PC via Steam. I've got around 30k points on Gamerscore so I'm pretty sure I'm one of the customers MS expected to keep. 

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at June 23, 2013 09:42 AM (Yx4EH)

23 I don't plan to get a next-gen console until they have must-own games that won't play on current consoles, and there aren't any I know of yet. Especially with the crazy stuff going on with the XBox One.

Posted by: waelse1 at June 23, 2013 09:42 AM (0ODu8)

24 I learned my lesson with the old RCA Video Disk player (analog). I still have it sitting on the top shelf of a closet upstairs. Heh, Vic, I just bought a laserdisc player a few months ago. I love old tech.

Posted by: zsasz at June 23, 2013 09:44 AM (MMC8r)

25 Where be the cosplay chick?

Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2013 01:14 PM (hO9ad)


don't blame me, I had a female Captain America in the draft late last night/early morning and now my section is not there

Posted by: The Dude at June 23, 2013 09:45 AM (vJdyz)

26 I think Sony beating Microsoft at E3 this year is more reminiscent of their destruction of the Sega Saturn. At E3 in 1995, the wildly anticipated Sega Saturn and the relatively unknown Sony Playstation (Sony being new to electronic entertainment) were both show. Sega showed some impressive visuals, but the games were still mostly 2D. Sega had focused on creating a system that allowed larger sprites (and quicker sprite scaling/rotation) over actual 3D graphics. They also announced their initial price $399, fairly standard for a new console. Sony hit the stage and showed off a bunch of real 3D demos that blew Sega away, and finished by simply saying "$299" and dropping the mic. (The word "bitches" was implied, not being a proper thing to say at an E3 demo at the time.) Needless to say, the Playstation made gaming history on its release, while the Saturn, while a good system, was relegated to the sidelines.

Posted by: Viridian at June 23, 2013 09:46 AM (5ypJ8)

27 Plenty of cosplay pics here: http://www.cosplaytrainwreck.com/

Posted by: zsasz at June 23, 2013 09:46 AM (MMC8r)

28 Heh, Vic, I just bought a laserdisc player a few months ago. I love old tech.

Posted by: zsasz at June 23, 2013 01:44 PM (MMC8r)


LOL, I have one of those too with about 100 laser disks. I have been gradually getting Blu-Rays to replace them and phase it out.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2013 09:48 AM (lZvxr)

29 new one

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2013 09:50 AM (lZvxr)

30

Kerbal Space Program .21 update is looking pretty awesome so far (I've only cared about the complete redo of the ASAS/pod torque since they announced it last Tuesday.) what I hate? That Steam keeps the "New Update Available" graphic on the .20.2 patch, even 2 weeks later.

 

Company of Heros 2 is about a week from final release. Its an RTS set on the Russian front 1941-42 or so. Its still being tweaked in the last days of the beta, and the AI is actually very challenging now. I just found out a few nights ago that armor can be sunk if it is on the ice and a flamethrower attacks it. Lol, splash splash Mr. Tiger

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at June 23, 2013 09:53 AM (X/EK3)

31 Undoubtedly, I stomped on your stuff, Dude. I apologize.

Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet[/i][/u][/b][/s] at June 23, 2013 09:54 AM (jvdNh)

32 As for this generation of consoles...Microsoft is effectively promising to make it so that you never lose your cable remote again. Simply being able to say "Watch " will be incredibly attractive to people, especially older people. I knew that their always-on DRM policy was stupid they moment they announced it. I also KNEW that they would walk it back as soon as they announced it. But the TV aspect of this is what I think everyone is forgetting. Being able to say, 'Xbox, watch Duck Dynasty" and it will find the show if it's on and tune directly to it will be a killer app for a lot of people. It'll be one of those things where someone goes to a friend's house, sees it work and says "I MUST HAVE IT".

Posted by: Viridian at June 23, 2013 09:55 AM (5ypJ8)

33

Posted by: Viridian at June 23, 2013 01:55 PM (5ypJ

 

This of course is MS's problem.

They develop decent things but don't sell them well, requiring you to see and use it before you go "wow, want."

The Kinect IMHO was the same way. I saw it, thought "meh maybe." but then after several hours playing fruit ninja and Dance Central at a friend's in seattle went "yes, want" and bought one less than a month later (it does take time to save up money.)

But that doesn't generate sales very fast at all.

Posted by: tsrblke at June 23, 2013 10:01 AM (GaqMa)

34 Computer, take me away from Ace's gaming thread and go to Lesbo P0rn.

Posted by: lt commander scott at June 23, 2013 10:01 AM (9+vDU)

35 Computer???

Posted by: lt commander scott at June 23, 2013 10:02 AM (9+vDU)

36 WTF?
A 'keyboard'.
The early 21st century sucks.

Posted by: lt commander scott at June 23, 2013 10:02 AM (9+vDU)

37 I still don't think gamers will want the mandatory Kinect, especially now that Microsoft has been outed as a PRISM partner. You may not have to connect to the internet every day anymore, but you'll still have to at times, like when you put a new game in the machine, and who knows what kind of data the Kinect will upload at that time?

The abomination that is that new licensing system will still be there; Microsoft is merely giving up its cut of the action and no longer requiring it. Game publishers will still have the option of using it. Or, more accurately, the option of disabling it on individual titles, since the wording of the announcement implies that the new licensing system is still active by default.

So, yeah, you put in a new disk, and unless the licensing option is specifically disabled on that disk by the developer, you'll still have to connect to the internet to license it before you can play.

At least, that the way I've been reading it.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at June 23, 2013 10:03 AM (LScnt)

38 I have to plug a game, guys. I have two friends, Seth Robinson and Mike Hommel. They're both great guys with families and they both do indie games. Seth does his on the side; he has a job as a server programmer. Mike does his full-time. His biggest success so far has been making flash games for the Boy Scouts' website. So about a year ago they got together and decided to try to make an MMO on phones. The result was a great little game called Growtopia, which plays like a 2D Minecraft but with more stuff to deck out your characters with. The game is free and ad-free; Mike and Seth make their money with in-app purchases of vanity items (angel wings for your character are one of the best sellers). They also rigorously monitor both the game worlds and the forums for inappropriate content, knowing that kids LOVE playing games like these. This makes the game superior to Minecraft for children, in my opinion. If you've got an iOS or Android device, check it out. I think you'll be surprised and pleased and you'll be supporting two great guys who have worked long and hard to finally have this success. http://growtopiagame.com/

Posted by: Viridian at June 23, 2013 10:09 AM (5ypJ8)

39 David, I'm on Marvel Heroes as Radiodad. Won't be on there much over the next couple of weeks, though, as I'll be spending most of my free time at work gearing up for a big launch. I'd love to get a Moron group going there, though...

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Designated Commenter at June 23, 2013 10:12 AM (4X5NS)

40 Re: console wars next gen. So far I've been "Meh" to both. I have both a 360 and a PS3 now, and use the 360 for gaming exclusively (although for the last year it has only been Forza) and the PS3 for Netflix/Vudu and the occasional game (it must be a PS3 exclusive, like The Last of Us). Over the past two years I can count the number of console games I have purchased on one hand. The number of Steam games, however, continues its disturbing rise. This has made me think that the next box attached to the living room TV will be a Steam Box, in whatever version comes to market. Instant huge game library and none of MS's or Sony's BS.

Posted by: pilot141 at June 23, 2013 10:54 AM (nPwzA)

41 I didn't even know KOTOR was released on the iPad, so when I jumped into the store for some dumb reason I was completely blown they were offering it at all. It was like early Christmas. Bought the game and have been enjoying my super dexed Scoundrel soon-to-be-blaster-Jedi ever since.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at June 23, 2013 11:08 AM (dh83Q)

42 This has made me think that the next box attached to the living room TV will be a Steam Box --- I don't know if a steam box would be able to get the hardware to play new releases at cutting edge graphics, and that would be a downer for a lot of PC people. Seriously, it's expensive to keep up with that tech.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at June 23, 2013 11:11 AM (dh83Q)

43 20 I'm playing the "End of Days" mod for Rome: Total war again. The premise...it's the year 666 and cut-throats, thieves and reprobates are trying to usher in Armageddon along with their Demonic influenced leaders, and have formed a huge faction that is rolling over most of the known world. You can choose to play them, or Crusader factions (Spain, Germany, England, France, The Holy See), Islam, Hindu, Zoroastrian Persia, China or my favorite, a stranded Japanese army on the Arabian peninsula. Samurais kick ass. Every game plays out different, in my current the Germans are big, they immediately attacked England and France (knocked them out) did an Operation Barbarossa in the east and made an alliance with the steam-rolling evil ones. ROFL. My Samurai are kicking evil ones butt, and the Germans and Jihadis are trying (unsuccessfully) to do a Pearl Harbor on my guys.I've made an alliance with a pretty strong England, along with the Holy See they're the only Crusaders left. Chinese and Persians at war for centuries. Awesome music, you feel like Leonidas facing huge armies, dust storms in the desert, lots of planning required to not get over extended and form the right mix of armies for different enemies, plan your economy to support troops.Mod is available at Total War Center, great fun. Banzai! Posted by: JHW at June 23, 2013 01:41 PM (B38OD) Any clue on if they are hoping to recreate this mod for total war: Rome ii

Posted by: Buzzion at June 23, 2013 11:26 AM (GULKT)

44 Re: Steam box. Well, most TVs only are putting out 1080 resolution, so any mid-range components available today can push that number of pixels. Add in the shaders, anti-aliasing and everything else and you can get something that looks much better than a current-gen console for around $800. Mind you, I'm not looking to replace my desktop gaming PC - just the box I have attached to the TV in the living room. for me I think it will be worth it just to have my Steam library available in the living room. My backlog has reached ludicrous proportions.

Posted by: pilot141 at June 23, 2013 11:33 AM (nPwzA)

45 #16

Unless you left out the word 'porn,' that just isn't true.

The first pre-recorded movies you could buy on videotape were on Beta, but didn't come from Sony or any of the movie studios. (There was the early Cartrivision system that most people never heard of and disappeared almost without a trace. My elementary school did have a video camera and replay system we fooled around with that was based on the format.)

The home video editions of theatrical movies were thought up by a guy in Kansas, who got the initial licenses from the studios for an absurdly low price. Rental outlets followed immediately.
http://www.entmerch.org/press-room/industry-history.html

It took the studios some time to realize there was a market after the garage band types were making a fortune and growing faster than they could manage.

Posted by: epobirs at June 23, 2013 12:05 PM (kcfmt)

46 #42

They don't have to. Just like the new consoles, their display target is 1080p, because that is what the vast majority of the potential customer have. 4K displays are going to take at least four years to be a big chunk of the mainstream market.

The same tech that is going into the Xbox One and PS4 will be showing up in PC versions from AMD within a few months. Right now, you can get the low power version of the A-10 APU (6700) and a nice Asrock mini-ITX motherboard for about $250. Matching it up with other bits needed can be done for under $500 total. You can forego having much local storage capacity if you have a good network setup. And you can upgrade those parts later as available funds allow, so long as the case has a place for the items to go.

This won't be a hot rod game system, nor will it match the upcoming consoles. (At least not until comparable silicon is shipping for PC builds. But within two years the PC builders will have better chips available since the consoles are set in stone spec wise. They get die shrinks for cost reduction but not increased performance.) But it will be more than capable is providing lots of fun. MAME and other emulators should run fine, and plenty of current populars item will be very playable. The indy stuff especially tends not to be very demanding in terms of hardware.

You also get a video and audio playback system with no compromises. Need a specific codec? Just install it. You don't need to care whether it is supported by a big CE company.

With 1080p as the target, inexpensive HTPC will just get more and more capable in the gaming sector. Desktops will target higher resolutions at higher costs.

Posted by: epobirs at June 23, 2013 12:26 PM (kcfmt)

47 #37

You've been reading it wrong.

Microsoft has said very explicitly the only time you'll have to connect is when you first bring home the machine and set it up. Because of the change, the first generation of Xbox Ones are going to need a firmware update to implement the new arrangement. This is similar to the Wii U at launch, where the firmware installed at the factory was horribly broken and Nintendo didn't want anyone to see it. Apparently it was so bad forcing people to wait through a very large download was preferable.

Once you do that firmware update you don't need an internet connection. Game discs will rely on local DRM methods just as they do with the existing machines. This also means that the game disc has to be in the drive while playing the game, even though it is completely installed on the hard drive. So much for new features, you paranoid crybabies.

So, it's pretty much going to be the same as buying a PS3 or Xbox 360 today. There are typically a fair number of updates from the time one of those leaves the factory to when a consumer buys it. For all of the bitching about connecting to the internet, it was pretty much already a requirement in the current consoles if you wanted  the full feature set to actually work. Some firmware updates were delivered by games that required them but there were always issues with that approach.

As for third parties, this is nothing new. EA had measures to cut off online access for used games in this generation. Third party publishers have had these options for a long time, especially in games with a strong online element.

Posted by: epobirs at June 23, 2013 12:40 PM (kcfmt)

48 43 Buzzion, I'm not even sure at this time modding will be supported for Rome 2, I'm guessing it will because they asked modders to help in development.  As far as the mod I mentioned, I doubt the creator will make it for it, he's made another mod, EOD II, "Lycan Rising", a total fantasy mod with werewolves, vampires and such. I haven't tried it yet, but shall, because the modder is extremely talented and makes very polished, professional mods. I can't wait for Rome 2.

Posted by: JHW at June 23, 2013 12:44 PM (B38OD)

49 Started playing Rift after it went free to play and I have to say I am very much enjoying it. It is a lot like WoW, a big open world with a theme park type quest hubs and the occasional random rift opening and spewing out enemies.

Posted by: Drew in MO at June 23, 2013 12:56 PM (cGlgB)

50 So, Neverwinter playing folks?   We still need to come up with a guild name. 


Hobo Hunters International?  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 23, 2013 12:58 PM (/g8rp)

51 Marvel Heroes wouldn't let me register. This was after I downloaded and installed, so I was pretty pissed. Said all my e-mails were already in use, which they weren't. Spent a little time going back and forth, then wrote them off as hopeless.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 23, 2013 01:02 PM (qyfb5)

52 I am actually playing STO more at the moment than NW. I will be there to start a guild (I'll even sign all my toons up to boost the numbers), but I don't really do PVP or team gameplay, so I'm kind of dead weight for a guild, mostly. The Smoking Crater guild. The Louts. Everybody Gets Shirts. Make the World Safe for BLP. The Where Has The Rum Gone Guild. I Thought I Signed Up For WOW.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 23, 2013 01:07 PM (qyfb5)

53 #47: The wording of Microsoft's announcement said that publishers will now have the option to enable lending and sharing and re-selling of their games, and Microsoft will not be imposing its own presence on the process. Which tells me that the registration process is still there.

Otherwise, how could it be left up to the game publisher to opt out of it? If every game works like we're now used to when you pop it in, without needing to access the internet first, then the publishers can't enforce their own choices regarding that process.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at June 23, 2013 01:14 PM (LScnt)

54 Okay, I see that I was wrong. It looks like the announcement I read was an earlier attempt by Microsoft to backtrack just the tiniest bit. But it looks like they have completely reversed it now.

"Microsoft also reversed its policy with regard to game resales. The company planned to let game publishers set the rules for reselling games to retailers, something that a regular Web connection would have allowed. Game makers could have restricted the use of games on more than one console, or required a fee for reuse. Microsoft also planned to limit gamers ability to share titles with friends, allowing them only to give a disc to a buddy who has been on their friends list for at least 30 days. And even then, each game would only have been able to be given once.

Those restrictions have been rescinded as well."


Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at June 23, 2013 01:22 PM (LScnt)

55 How about The Moron Horde for a guild name?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at June 23, 2013 01:27 PM (LScnt)

56 Been playing Marvel Heroes a bit as well. While I pretty much only lurk, I'd love to join the Moron Horde if a guild gets setup. User name is the same I've posted under if you want to look me up...

Posted by: Brewe at June 23, 2013 01:32 PM (jogO4)

57 Hey, David Infamous Sockpuppet. Directions for uploading and posting pictures are on the OpenBloggers booklet "So You're an openblogger now.pdf" If I had your email I can send it to you. Follow me on twitter and we'll exchange email addresses. @ComradeArthur

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 23, 2013 03:34 PM (5YUSx)

58 Thread is dead, but look for "The Moron Horde" in a Marvel Heroes episode near you.

Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet[/i][/u][/b][/s] at June 23, 2013 04:13 PM (jvdNh)

59 Just got to watching the finish of the 24 hour Le Mans race (I had to tape it because...24 hours) and apparently one of the drivers was the guy who won GT Academy (included with Gran Turismo 5) a couple years back.

Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2013 05:08 PM (hO9ad)

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