June 23, 2013
— Gang of Gaming Morons! Howdy Morons and Moronettes, it's time for your (mostly) weekly gaming thread. It has been awhile since I have done one, because I have been on a long-term, deep-cover mission for the Vast Rightwing Conspiracy, and I couldn't break my cover. OK, the truth is I am a lazy bastard and since Zakn and Dude were doing so well, I let them take the brunt, but while they are away, I will do my meager part to keep things running. Go ahead and click through to find out the wild and wonderful goings-on in the world of games. Following an online outcry of several weeks, Microsoft reversed itself on the DRM requirements for its next generation console, the Xbox One. Apparently, Microsoft misjudged the tolerance the public has for being required to have their consoles online, even to play single player games. Also, people don't like the idea of "buying" a disc, but not really owning the product. All in all, it appears to have been a sobering experience for the boys at MS. Personally, I am happy they are reversing themselves. I refuse to play a single-player game that requires me to be online (I'm looking at you, Diablo 3). So, I was going to skip the next generation of consoles entirely, at least for awhile. Now, I can tell myself I will get one, if and when I get a job again.
In the meantime, Microsoft's arch-rival, Sony has been making hay touting the fact that their console, the PS4, doesn't have the onerous DRM requirements and it is going to be $100 cheaper than the Xbox One. The interesting thing is how this is a repeat of ancient history. When the PS3 shipped, it was $599, significantly more expensive than its rival, the Xbox 360. Sony assumed the consumers would be glad to lay out the extra cash for the ability to watch Blu-Ray discs as well as play games. Sony was wrong, and Microsoft beat them like a red-headed stepchild in terms of sales because Sony lost sight of the fact that the vast majority of people who buy game consoles are buying GAME consoles, not multimedia devices. Now, we have exactly the same scenario playing out, but the roles are reversed. Will history repeat itself again with the individual actors switching places? It will be interesting to watch and see.
In other gaming news, Developer has halted sale of Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition due to contractual disputes with some of their IP partners. No one is sure what the problem is, but apparently Beamdog and Overhaul, the folks behind the new iOS, PC and Mac ports of the classic isometric RPG from BioWare, have irritated their partners so much that the partners have forced them to stop selling the product until the contractual issues are settled. Furthermore, this has put the fate of the Android version of the game in jeopardy. Finally, this has halted work on a port of Baldur's Gate 2: Enhanced Edition which is said to be well underway. This is unfortunate, as I have always loved the BG series, and it would be a shame if they could not sell the version they have worked so hard on and all new development was killed. Just on the strength of their efforts, the mobile platforms have become a much more compelling gaming platform.
Speaking of old BioWare games on iOS, we mentioned the port of Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic to the iPad a couple of weeks ago, but I have been playing quite a bit of it recently, and it really is pretty amazing how well the game has been translated to the touch interface. Except for movement, which is really lame. However, just about everything else is really smooth, and the touch interface is actually superior to the original interface in many respects. In particular, when you are targeting enemies, it is much more natural just to tap the enemy you want to attack, rather than having to press buttons or tab to cycle among the available foes. If you own a recent iPad, I encourage you to check the game out.
The Australian government has decided to invest $200000 in game developer Team Bondi. The money is going to help finance "Whore of the Orient," a game set in 1936 Shanghai, the "most corrupt and decadent city on the planet" according to a now-deleted page on Team Bondi's web site. The move by Australia to finance a video game company is, no doubt, the first of many government investments we are likely to see in the near future, inspired by Rhode Island's wildly successful bankrolling of Curt Schilling's 38 Studios in 2010.
Guillermo del Toro, at a pre-screening of his new giant monsters vs. giant robots movie "Pacific Rim," discussed the possibility of a game add-on to the movie. He views a game based on the movie not as an "ancillary product," but as a first-class entry on its own, a way to expand the world beyond the realm of the movie. In the event that he could make such a product, he estimated it would take about three years, and he expected it to be "hand-made" and that he would be active in "every stage of it." This is actually a really interesting idea. The format of video games gives the creator a much larger and flexible canvas with which to tell a story, and a brilliant storyteller like del Toro would be in a good position to take maximum advantage of the medium. Marrying the long-form storytelling potential of video games with the talents of a del Toro could give us a game like we have never seen before. I hope he goes forward with it.
I have been playing a lot of Marvel Heroes lately, and I am enjoying it. If any morons are playing it, we should try and get a supergroup up and running. Call it "The Brotherhood of Evil Morons" or something. Discuss further in the comments. If you have anything you want to see in the gaming thread, drop me a line at imapsuedonym@gmail.com.
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whoa....what the heck...ghost town here.
Posted by: Guido- 'Who can see new lib voters streaming across the border from his porch' at June 23, 2013 09:18 AM (8I9hB)
Posted by: Guido- 'Who can see new lib voters streaming across the border from his porch' at June 23, 2013 09:18 AM (8I9hB)
Posted by: Guido- 'Who can see new lib voters streaming across the border from his porch' at June 23, 2013 09:19 AM (8I9hB)
Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet[/i][/u][/b][/s] at June 23, 2013 09:20 AM (jvdNh)
Posted by: zsasz at June 23, 2013 09:20 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Guido- 'Who can see new lib voters streaming across the border from his porch' at June 23, 2013 09:20 AM (8I9hB)
I'm not 100% sure that the Xbox/PS4 thing is an exact repeat of last cycle.
Sony put in a Blu-ray player while HD-DVD was still (arguably) a competing format. Blu-ray movies were remarkably expensive and HDTVs were still a growing piece of market share (not the market share.)
In effect Sony lost the Console battle to win the DVD format wars.
On the flip side, MS in including a 2nd Gen Kinect with each device, which may (based on this generation's sales) be something consumers want with a fairly tangible right out of the box usefulness.
Now, having said that, there's been a severe shortage of MS showing games that utilize the next gen Kinect's features (and since only games aren't backwards compatible I can't simply pop in DC3 and relish in the better sensing.)
Posted by: tsrblke at June 23, 2013 09:21 AM (GaqMa)
I like cross words, does that count?
Posted by: Guido- 'Who can see new lib voters streaming across the border from his porch' at June 23, 2013 09:21 AM (8I9hB)
Oh, it's easy.
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Posted by: Guido- 'Who can see new lib voters streaming across the border from his porch' at June 23, 2013 09:23 AM (8I9hB)
Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet[/i][/u][/b][/s] at June 23, 2013 09:25 AM (jvdNh)
Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet[/i][/u][/b][/s] at June 23, 2013 09:29 AM (jvdNh)
When the movies started coming out I waited a long time to see which format would win before I started in on building a collection.
Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2013 09:36 AM (lZvxr)
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Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2013 09:40 AM (lZvxr)
along with their Demonic influenced leaders, and have formed a huge faction that is rolling over most of the known world. You can choose to play them, or Crusader factions (Spain, Germany, England, France, The Holy See), Islam, Hindu, Zoroastrian Persia, China or my favorite, a stranded Japanese army on the Arabian peninsula. Samurais kick ass.
Every game plays out different, in my current the Germans are big, they immediately
attacked England and France (knocked them out) did an Operation Barbarossa in the east and made an alliance with the steam-rolling evil ones. ROFL. My Samurai are kicking evil ones butt, and the Germans and Jihadis are trying (unsuccessfully) to do a Pearl Harbor on my guys.I've made an alliance with a pretty strong England, along with the Holy See they're the only Crusaders left. Chinese and Persians at war for centuries.
Awesome music, you feel like Leonidas facing huge armies, dust storms in the desert, lots of planning required to not get over extended and form the right mix of armies for different enemies, plan your economy to support troops.Mod is available at Total War Center, great fun.
Banzai!
Posted by: JHW at June 23, 2013 09:41 AM (B38OD)
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Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2013 01:14 PM (hO9ad)
don't blame me, I had a female Captain America in the draft late last night/early morning and now my section is not there
Posted by: The Dude at June 23, 2013 09:45 AM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Viridian at June 23, 2013 09:46 AM (5ypJ8)
Posted by: zsasz at June 23, 2013 09:46 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: zsasz at June 23, 2013 01:44 PM (MMC8r)
LOL, I have one of those too with about 100 laser disks. I have been gradually getting Blu-Rays to replace them and phase it out.
Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2013 09:48 AM (lZvxr)
Kerbal Space Program .21 update is looking pretty awesome so far (I've only cared about the complete redo of the ASAS/pod torque since they announced it last Tuesday.) what I hate? That Steam keeps the "New Update Available" graphic on the .20.2 patch, even 2 weeks later.
Company of Heros 2 is about a week from final release. Its an RTS set on the Russian front 1941-42 or so. Its still being tweaked in the last days of the beta, and the AI is actually very challenging now. I just found out a few nights ago that armor can be sunk if it is on the ice and a flamethrower attacks it. Lol, splash splash Mr. Tiger
Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at June 23, 2013 09:53 AM (X/EK3)
Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet[/i][/u][/b][/s] at June 23, 2013 09:54 AM (jvdNh)
Posted by: Viridian at June 23, 2013 09:55 AM (5ypJ8)
Posted by: Viridian at June 23, 2013 01:55 PM (5ypJ
This of course is MS's problem.
They develop decent things but don't sell them well, requiring you to see and use it before you go "wow, want."
The Kinect IMHO was the same way. I saw it, thought "meh maybe." but then after several hours playing fruit ninja and Dance Central at a friend's in seattle went "yes, want" and bought one less than a month later (it does take time to save up money.)
But that doesn't generate sales very fast at all.
Posted by: tsrblke at June 23, 2013 10:01 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: lt commander scott at June 23, 2013 10:01 AM (9+vDU)
The abomination that is that new licensing system will still be there; Microsoft is merely giving up its cut of the action and no longer requiring it. Game publishers will still have the option of using it. Or, more accurately, the option of disabling it on individual titles, since the wording of the announcement implies that the new licensing system is still active by default.
So, yeah, you put in a new disk, and unless the licensing option is specifically disabled on that disk by the developer, you'll still have to connect to the internet to license it before you can play.
At least, that the way I've been reading it.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at June 23, 2013 10:03 AM (LScnt)
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Posted by: pilot141 at June 23, 2013 11:33 AM (nPwzA)
Unless you left out the word 'porn,' that just isn't true.
The first pre-recorded movies you could buy on videotape were on Beta, but didn't come from Sony or any of the movie studios. (There was the early Cartrivision system that most people never heard of and disappeared almost without a trace. My elementary school did have a video camera and replay system we fooled around with that was based on the format.)
The home video editions of theatrical movies were thought up by a guy in Kansas, who got the initial licenses from the studios for an absurdly low price. Rental outlets followed immediately.
http://www.entmerch.org/press-room/industry-history.html
It took the studios some time to realize there was a market after the garage band types were making a fortune and growing faster than they could manage.
Posted by: epobirs at June 23, 2013 12:05 PM (kcfmt)
They don't have to. Just like the new consoles, their display target is 1080p, because that is what the vast majority of the potential customer have. 4K displays are going to take at least four years to be a big chunk of the mainstream market.
The same tech that is going into the Xbox One and PS4 will be showing up in PC versions from AMD within a few months. Right now, you can get the low power version of the A-10 APU (6700) and a nice Asrock mini-ITX motherboard for about $250. Matching it up with other bits needed can be done for under $500 total. You can forego having much local storage capacity if you have a good network setup. And you can upgrade those parts later as available funds allow, so long as the case has a place for the items to go.
This won't be a hot rod game system, nor will it match the upcoming consoles. (At least not until comparable silicon is shipping for PC builds. But within two years the PC builders will have better chips available since the consoles are set in stone spec wise. They get die shrinks for cost reduction but not increased performance.) But it will be more than capable is providing lots of fun. MAME and other emulators should run fine, and plenty of current populars item will be very playable. The indy stuff especially tends not to be very demanding in terms of hardware.
You also get a video and audio playback system with no compromises. Need a specific codec? Just install it. You don't need to care whether it is supported by a big CE company.
With 1080p as the target, inexpensive HTPC will just get more and more capable in the gaming sector. Desktops will target higher resolutions at higher costs.
Posted by: epobirs at June 23, 2013 12:26 PM (kcfmt)
You've been reading it wrong.
Microsoft has said very explicitly the only time you'll have to connect is when you first bring home the machine and set it up. Because of the change, the first generation of Xbox Ones are going to need a firmware update to implement the new arrangement. This is similar to the Wii U at launch, where the firmware installed at the factory was horribly broken and Nintendo didn't want anyone to see it. Apparently it was so bad forcing people to wait through a very large download was preferable.
Once you do that firmware update you don't need an internet connection. Game discs will rely on local DRM methods just as they do with the existing machines. This also means that the game disc has to be in the drive while playing the game, even though it is completely installed on the hard drive. So much for new features, you paranoid crybabies.
So, it's pretty much going to be the same as buying a PS3 or Xbox 360 today. There are typically a fair number of updates from the time one of those leaves the factory to when a consumer buys it. For all of the bitching about connecting to the internet, it was pretty much already a requirement in the current consoles if you wanted the full feature set to actually work. Some firmware updates were delivered by games that required them but there were always issues with that approach.
As for third parties, this is nothing new. EA had measures to cut off online access for used games in this generation. Third party publishers have had these options for a long time, especially in games with a strong online element.
Posted by: epobirs at June 23, 2013 12:40 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: JHW at June 23, 2013 12:44 PM (B38OD)
Posted by: Drew in MO at June 23, 2013 12:56 PM (cGlgB)
Hobo Hunters International?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 23, 2013 12:58 PM (/g8rp)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 23, 2013 01:02 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 23, 2013 01:07 PM (qyfb5)
Otherwise, how could it be left up to the game publisher to opt out of it? If every game works like we're now used to when you pop it in, without needing to access the internet first, then the publishers can't enforce their own choices regarding that process.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at June 23, 2013 01:14 PM (LScnt)
"Microsoft also reversed its policy with regard to game resales. The company planned to let game publishers set the rules for reselling games to retailers, something that a regular Web connection would have allowed. Game makers could have restricted the use of games on more than one console, or required a fee for reuse. Microsoft also planned to limit gamers ability to share titles with friends, allowing them only to give a disc to a buddy who has been on their friends list for at least 30 days. And even then, each game would only have been able to be given once.
Those restrictions have been rescinded as well."
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at June 23, 2013 01:22 PM (LScnt)
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