July 10, 2013
— Ace No not really. That's just bein' silly. Here's the real headline:
Elliot Spitzer's Not Sorry and As Much As Says So
It's one thing for someone to confess fault and acknowledge others have the right to render a moral judgment on him. The contrite man may offer reasons why they should be merciful in their judgments, but he'll acknowledge that others do have the right to judge him by his actions.
Elliot Spitzer doesn't concede you have the right to judge him for breaking the law while the chief law enforcement officer of a state, or of going after some mob-connected prostitution rings and yet not others.
He insists is none yo' bizness.
Asked by Mika Brzezinski about the various tabloid headlines bashing his past indiscretions, Spitzer replied: “I am mystified by the attention and the focus on that.”Spitzer really revealed his thinking, however, in a back and forth with Time’s Mark Halperin.
“There is a difference between public and private lives,” Spitzer said in response to a question about whether lying to the public was disqualifying for a public official. “There is a divide there that is something we do want to think about at a certain point and time.” We all know politicians dissemble all the time about negotiations on substantive issues and probably on personal issues as well.” [Funky logic-breaking quotation marks in original.]
Later, Spitzer added: “I lied about personal sexual activity.”
Chris Cilliza concludes Spitzer is merely sorry he got caught, which is entirely different from being contrite. A contrite man doesn't constantly argue that what he did wasn't all that bad and Everyone Does It and Why Don't You Just Mind Your Own.
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Posted by: phoenixgirl at work... at July 10, 2013 08:58 AM (9p9R7)
Posted by: EC at July 10, 2013 08:59 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: sweet...ish at July 10, 2013 08:59 AM (bj+Nc)
Posted by: EC at July 10, 2013 09:00 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 10, 2013 09:00 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 10, 2013 09:00 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Ian S. at July 10, 2013 09:01 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 10, 2013 09:01 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 10, 2013 09:01 AM (/PCJa)
“I lied about personal sexual activity.”
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Which happened to be criminal. Wow, he's a brazen shameless asshole.
You can't make that argument without a full-throated (heh) defense of legalizing prostitution.
Posted by: Beagle at July 10, 2013 09:01 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work... at July 10, 2013 09:01 AM (9p9R7)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 10, 2013 09:02 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 10, 2013 09:02 AM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at July 10, 2013 09:02 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: DocJ at July 10, 2013 09:04 AM (du8Bm)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:04 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: huerfano at July 10, 2013 09:04 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: sTevo at July 10, 2013 09:04 AM (2F32t)
Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at July 10, 2013 09:04 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2013 09:05 AM (TKg/I)
For those cynical about the U.S.'s downward descent and politics in particular the last four years have been a bonanza.
The Weiner/Spitzer run in NYC? It's like a cherry on top of a sundae of failure.
Posted by: Austin in TX at July 10, 2013 09:05 AM (lKVc4)
But I hope none of them will be upset to learn that the rest of the country finds their choice as respectable as a clown orgy.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 10, 2013 09:05 AM (xvZYu)
Posted by: sTevo at July 10, 2013 09:06 AM (7MryD)
Posted by: Mr Pee Pee at July 10, 2013 09:06 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at July 10, 2013 09:06 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:06 AM (wR+pz)
Spitzer is paying canvassers as much as $800 each per day in a frantic scramble for signatures to enter the Democratic primary for city controller, insiders confirmed.
The sky-high payments, unheard of in city petition drives, reflect Spitzer’s deep pockets, his determination to succeed — and the desperate straits his candidacy is in.
NYDailyNews
But you know, in hooker terms $800 per day is pretty darn cheap...
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 10, 2013 09:06 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at July 10, 2013 09:06 AM (jMDD7)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at July 10, 2013 09:07 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 09:07 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2013 09:08 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Sir Robert of Banbury at July 10, 2013 09:08 AM (X6gZa)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:08 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: EC at July 10, 2013 09:09 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: DocJ at July 10, 2013 09:09 AM (du8Bm)
Posted by: Sir Robert of Banbury
Smart move. It's the largest constituency in NYC.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 10, 2013 09:09 AM (xvZYu)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 10, 2013 09:10 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Elliot "Spits on it" Spitzer at July 10, 2013 09:10 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: occam at July 10, 2013 09:10 AM (LcmTO)
As far as forgiveness goes, my personal shitlist is carved in stone. Once you're on it, that's it.
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 10, 2013 09:11 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:11 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Bufalobob at July 10, 2013 09:11 AM (DAwL2)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 10, 2013 09:11 AM (+4/hj)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2013 09:11 AM (TKg/I)
Posted by: Spitzer at July 10, 2013 09:12 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Elliot Spitzer
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Uh, oh. There goes the Slutwalk demographic.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 10, 2013 09:12 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 09:12 AM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Fritz at July 10, 2013 09:12 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: SurferDoc at July 10, 2013 09:12 AM (F+av1)
Posted by: rickl at July 10, 2013 09:12 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 09:13 AM (mCNwt)
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Not seeing the problem here.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at July 10, 2013 09:13 AM (aDwsi)
Chris Cilliza concludes Spitzer is merely sorry he got caught, which is entirely different from being contrite. A contrite man doesn't constantly argue that what he did wasn't all that bad and Everyone Does It and Why Don't You Just Mind Your Own.
Just another reminder that Bill Clinton wasn't a lovable rogue. He was an amoral POS who would've long ago had his fat ass filled with lead if he were just an ordinary guy hunting for some strange.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 10, 2013 09:13 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at July 10, 2013 09:14 AM (29vnO)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 09:14 AM (mCNwt)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 10, 2013 09:14 AM (VtjlW)
You didn't see the hooker peddling her wares while Spitzer had his dick in her, now did you?
See? Get it now you ingrates?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 10, 2013 09:15 AM (SY2Kh)
http://tinyurl.com/qfxrr5c
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 01:11 PM (wR+pz)
That is flaming skull stuff and it is illegal as hell.
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 09:15 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at July 10, 2013 01:14 PM (29vnO)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Zombie Boss Tweed at July 10, 2013 09:15 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: EC at July 10, 2013 09:15 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2013 09:15 AM (pZ0pM)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 09:15 AM (mCNwt)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2013 09:15 AM (TKg/I)
Insty has story about DOJ paying employees to organize the Trayvon protests.
"Judicial Watch announced today that it has obtained documents proving that the Department of Justice played a major behind-the-scenes role in organizing protests against George Zimmerman. Zimmerman is on trial for second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin in February 2012."
We've officially gone full Chavez.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2013 09:16 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 09:16 AM (mCNwt)
Not one thing I've heard has said they were found anywhere near the scene of the crime.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 10, 2013 09:17 AM (VjL9S)
By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them. -Doctrine and Covenants 58:43
He's not pledging to stop frequenting hookers. He's arguing that he can be effective as a politician and a liar despite his inability to stop paying for it. He's arguing that his sin is innocuous. He is not confessing nor forsaking. He has only admitted those things he cannot now deny and refuses to publicly promise not to do it again.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2013 09:17 AM (IoTdl)
What an utter travesty. People need to lose their jobs over this. A lot of people...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 10, 2013 09:17 AM (wtvvX)
Hah! That was funny. New Yorkers are the biggest rubes on the planet.
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I dunno. New Yorkers don't keep sending Barbara Boxer back to the Senate every six years...
Posted by: junior at July 10, 2013 09:17 AM (UWFpX)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 09:17 AM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 01:15 PM (lZvxr)
"Illegal as hell." Now there's a quaint, outdated concept.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2013 09:17 AM (8ZskC)
So the troll is in favor of prostitution and can't grasp the idea that 1) hypocrisy and 2) personal integrity might have some relevance to whether someone should be entrusted with power. Good to know.
Also, wouldn't comparing a politician's job to a plumber's or electrician's be a category error? I ask because it seems amusing that someone who has taken his name (incorrectly, since the troll uses a place name as a surname - Okham is a village in England) from a renown logician is so free with the fallacies.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (sKuZd)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (+4/hj)
What I find really troubling, is the Voters are more interested in 'what will you give me'... vice having someone they can trust as their Elected Representative.
Case in point? The Clintons. He LIED to us... which is a real moral problem... for once he lies to you, how can you trust him.... SHE LIED to us... as there is NO way for her to be stupid enough NOT to have known....
And then they stayed together in a sham of a Political Marriage... for appearance sake...
Now... how can anyone TRUST HER? Yet... there is serious talk of her being the next PRECEDENT?
Our system only works if we have a Majority of Moral people in Power... if we do not have them as a check on the Power of Evil Untrustworthy people.... the system WILL Fail....
And it is... when the Precedent can announce that he will NOT follow the Law???? When he will not ENFORCE the LAW? and there seems to be no way to FORCE him to enforce the Law? AND he has no American Morals?
Done...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (wqcCk)
Posted by: Bozo at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (YAGV/)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 10, 2013 01:17 PM (wtvvX)
No, they need to go to jail.
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (lZvxr)
And there's a link off that story to new EPA guidelines "suggesting" refrigerators and freezers have a way for the power company and/or the government to remotely shut them off.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (mCNwt)
NY can suck it, They get what they vote for and if they do it's their problem.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (vndrU)
Yes, there is, but his desire to lie publicly about his private life knowing that it would have a direct, negative impact on his public life means a lot more than him lying to a personal friend about his golf score or to his buddy about being able to pay back the $50 he borrowed. Plus, let's not forget, that Spitzer was lying about behavior in which he broke the law -- a law in which he used to personally prosecute others.
Everybody tells lies or half-truths at some point in their lives for various motivations -- some selfish (e.g., hiding misbehavior), some selfless (e.g., trying to avoid hurting someone) -- but some lies and the behavior that the lies are covering up should disqualify an individual from serving in a public position. This is one of those situations.
There are other things you can do with your life other than elective office and public service, Spitzer. So go do them.
Posted by: Slappy at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: irright at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (Ze8oh)
Posted by: Waldo at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (vDjkK)
By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them. -Doctrine and Covenants 58:43
He's not pledging to stop frequenting hookers. He's arguing that he can be effective as a politician and a liar despite his inability to stop paying for it. He's arguing that his sin is innocuous. He is not confessing nor forsaking. He has only admitted those things he cannot now deny and refuses to publicly promise not to do it again.
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Kind of like Weiner's earlier comment to the press that they should ignore any other photos that might come out in the future.
Posted by: junior at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:18 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 10, 2013 09:19 AM (kXoT0)
He wants power and he'll grovel to get it if that's what is required. Not someone I would want placed in any position of authority, especially not a position of authority that would affect me.
He's a creepy person; and so is the other little doucheweasel.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at July 10, 2013 09:19 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at July 10, 2013 09:19 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 10, 2013 09:20 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 09:20 AM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 01:15 PM (lZvxr)
And not one single, solitary person in a position of power will do anything about it, nor will anyone be punished.
We now have an official Emmanuel Goldstein.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 10, 2013 09:21 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2013 09:21 AM (TKg/I)
Wow. O/T
Insty has story about DOJ paying employees to organize the Trayvon protests..............HUH, WTF is the DOJ getting involved at all?
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 10, 2013 09:21 AM (vndrU)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 10, 2013 09:21 AM (a3iAA)
Too late, and all the rest of this has been the administration (" If I had a son he would look just like Trayvon") and the media (doctored 911 tapes by NBC, creation of the term "white Hispanic" by the NYT) frantically trying to get a race war started using this case.
Disgraceful but not surprising.
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 10, 2013 09:22 AM (GoIUi)
We now have an official Emmanuel Goldstein.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 10, 2013 01:21 PM (zF6Iw)
Because we have no opposition Party and we have no justice in the courts.
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 09:22 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 10, 2013 09:22 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: blaster at July 10, 2013 09:22 AM (W6bkf)
Aren't you optimistic.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2013 09:22 AM (8ZskC)
Wow. O/T
Insty has story about DOJ paying employees to organize the Trayvon protests.
http://tinyurl.com/qfxrr5c
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 01:11 PM (wR+pz)
Holy Tyranny, Batman.
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at July 10, 2013 01:13 PM (tWmgi)
If/when Perry runs and he's asked what departments he intends to cut, the correct answer is ALL OF THEM. The bureaucracy is out of control and it's going to cause drastic action - whether that means Burning Times, Watering the Liberty Tree, Secession, or a combination of which I don't know. This 3rd world shit will not stand for very long.
Posted by: LT at July 10, 2013 09:22 AM (mX6UJ)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:22 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Minnfidel
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Too bad, cracka.
Posted by: [s]New Black Panthers[/s] Eric Holder at July 10, 2013 09:22 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: rickl at July 10, 2013 09:23 AM (zoehZ)
The DOJ people will not lose their jobs over the Traytable BS and they sure as hell will not go to jail
Time for that national divorce or just sit there and take it
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 10, 2013 09:23 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2013 09:24 AM (pZ0pM)
Let them own the riots. Not that any fucking LIVs will ever notice.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2013 09:24 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Brisco_County at July 10, 2013 09:24 AM (vVSvq)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 10, 2013 09:25 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Brisco_County at July 10, 2013 09:25 AM (vVSvq)
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I knew nothing about this until I read it in the paper.
Posted by: Barky Oblamer at July 10, 2013 09:25 AM (aDwsi)
Separately, in response to a Florida Sunshine Law request to the City of Sanford, Judicial Watch also obtained an audio recording of a “community meeting” held at Second Shiloh Missionary Baptist Church in Sanford on April 19, 2012. The meeting, which led to the ouster of Sanford’s Police Chief Bill Lee, was scheduled after a group of college students calling themselves the “Dream Defenders” barricaded the entrance to the police department demanding Lee be fired. According to the Orlando Sentinel, DOJ employees with the CRS had arranged a 40-mile police escort for the students from Daytona Beach to Sanford.
Fuckers.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 10, 2013 09:25 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: EC at July 10, 2013 09:25 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2013 09:26 AM (TKg/I)
If we could find a Republican with the last name Balls or Anus or something we might have a shot.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 10, 2013 09:26 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 10, 2013 09:26 AM (wqcCk)
Sure, I'll settle for this Comptroller job.
For now.
You/re welcome.
Posted by: Elliot Spitzer, paying for it so it goes away at July 10, 2013 09:26 AM (WCe8r)
OT - Just saw something interesting over at NRO.
Apparently Romney's campaigning again - this time to help the state GOP in New Hampshire. His friends don't think he's planning on running for public office again, though this will no doubt cause some to start speculating.
Posted by: junior at July 10, 2013 09:26 AM (UWFpX)
Posted by: LT at July 10, 2013 01:22 PM (mX6UJ)
All right, Serious You Guys: why not?
We know no one in the GOP - with the exceptions, possibly, of Paul and Cruz - will make a stink over this. It will most likely be buried (if reported at all) by the MFM. The "Justice for Trayvon" types won't care, the LIVs won't know and those of us who do care and do know have no way within this current democratic (ha!) process to force Holder and the DoJ to account.
"This 3rd world shit" will stand for a very long time.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 10, 2013 09:27 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 10, 2013 09:27 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 10, 2013 09:28 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2013 09:28 AM (pZ0pM)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 10, 2013 09:28 AM (g1DWB)
Really? Patronizing a Prostitute is a Class A misdemeanor in New York. How many THOUSANDS served jail time, imposed by your administration's Justice Department for doing the EXACT same thing you did? You have the nerve to claim that potential criminal activity you were involved in is part of your "private" life? Fuck it, elect him. We've already decided by majority to make a mockery of our laws. Why keep the pretense that they still matter?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at July 10, 2013 09:29 AM (0q2P7)
I bet some wag has the T-shirts ready to go with this message--because he will trade on her relationship with Empress Hillary.
I'M A BIG
HUMA/WIENER
SUPPORTER
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 10, 2013 09:29 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Jones
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For the same reason that none of them will (example: The Clintons), they have tasted the apple..., and found it good.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 10, 2013 09:29 AM (aDwsi)
If we could find a Republican with the last name Balls or Anus or something we might have a shot.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 10, 2013 01:26 PM (B/VB5)
New York City Mayoral candidate Richard "Dick" Shaft (R-Staten Island).
Posted by: Slappy at July 10, 2013 09:29 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 10, 2013 01:27 PM (8sCoq)
No! If I can't have Ashley Dupre then I must have YOU!
Posted by: Spitzer at July 10, 2013 09:30 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Lawrence O'Donnell at July 10, 2013 09:30 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at July 10, 2013 09:30 AM (V3kRK)
Posted by: zsasz at July 10, 2013 09:31 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 10, 2013 09:31 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at July 10, 2013 09:31 AM (29vnO)
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2013 09:32 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: LaQuisha Largess at July 10, 2013 09:32 AM (3lMGK)
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Low-character defines the Democratic party. It is celebrated and rewarded. Truly, they are instruments of the devil.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 10, 2013 09:32 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 10, 2013 09:33 AM (a3iAA)
Posted by: zsasz at July 10, 2013 09:33 AM (MMC8r)
If we could find a Republican with the last name Balls or Anus or something we might have a shot.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 10, 2013 01:26 PM (B/VB5)
Comeback trail for NH's own Dick Swett?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 10, 2013 09:33 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:33 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Dang at July 10, 2013 09:33 AM (Hx2XA)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 10, 2013 09:33 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 10, 2013 01:31 PM (VtjlW)
Unconstitutional w/o approval of congress.
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 09:33 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 10, 2013 01:31 PM (VtjlW)
I would love to see it. In all reality, California should be at least 5, if not 7 states based on logical/regional divisions and interests. Same with Illinois, slice off the Chicago area--Cook and Lake county into one state and let downstate have their own state.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 10, 2013 09:34 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 09:34 AM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 10, 2013 09:34 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2013 09:34 AM (TKg/I)
The reason? Almost all of Illinois would leave and Chicago would end up with zero tax dollars except what they collected locally, which would not win them elections.
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 10, 2013 09:35 AM (GoIUi)
No! If I can't have Ashley Dupre then I must have YOU!
Posted by: Spitzer at July 10, 2013 01:30 PM (RD7QR)
A more appropriate Spitzer saying for the citizens of New York would be: "I may not be able to f**k Ashley Dupre anymore, but I am gonna f**k the rest of you."
It would certainly make for a bold (and appropriate) slogan to put on a campaign button.
Posted by: Slappy at July 10, 2013 09:35 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President For Life at July 10, 2013 09:35 AM (hJO9p)
Posted by: Ted K. at July 10, 2013 09:35 AM (SdUl3)
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There has been talk of a state, West Carolina, for some while now among North Carolinians. Some hope now that the Governor, and both state houses have been gained by conservatives.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 10, 2013 09:35 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 10, 2013 09:35 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 10, 2013 09:35 AM (/PCJa)
They're quite serious. And some adjacent counties in Nebraska have expressed an interest in joining the effort.
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 10, 2013 09:35 AM (8sCoq)
In all reality, California should be at least 5, if not 7 states based on logical/regional divisions and interests.
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Ugh...
The water rights battles are bad enough as it is right now...
Posted by: junior at July 10, 2013 09:35 AM (UWFpX)
14 Barbabra Boxers instead of two?
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 09:35 AM (lZvxr)
It's such a fine line between justice and a looted sneaker store, isn't it?
Posted by: Dang at July 10, 2013 09:35 AM (Hx2XA)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 09:36 AM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 10, 2013 01:35 PM (HDgX3)
the population of that area has nothing to do with whether the effort would be successful or not
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 10, 2013 09:36 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2013 09:36 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:37 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 09:37 AM (mCNwt)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 10, 2013 09:37 AM (/PCJa)
West Virginia and Maine were both formed out of territory formerly belonging to existing states.
So was Tennessee aka "North Carolina over the mountains." Kentucky and Ohio were part of Virginia once as well.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 10, 2013 09:38 AM (sKuZd)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 10, 2013 09:38 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 01:11 PM (wR+pz)
That is flaming skull stuff and it is illegal as hell.
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 01:15 PM (lZvxr)
ok this actually shoks me.
They used DOJ to fund agitators/inflame other citizens against a private citizen?
Posted by: willow at July 10, 2013 09:38 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Ian S. at July 10, 2013 01:26 PM (B/VB5)
Comeback trail for NH's own Dick Swett?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 10, 2013 01:33 PM (zF6Iw)
-- We have a Dr. Flamen Ball here in Texas, OBGYN I beleive
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 10, 2013 09:38 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work... at July 10, 2013 09:38 AM (9p9R7)
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at July 10, 2013 09:38 AM (epxV4)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 10, 2013 09:38 AM (ZPrif)
14 Barbabra Boxers instead of two?
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No. There's only one Bay Area, thank goodness. Even Los Angeles isn't as bad as the Bay Area... Also, I read an article earlier this year that suggests that the state Republicans are starting to regain ground in the Central Valley because the locals there are finally starting to realize that a stupid fish is destroying the area's primary source of income - i.e. farming.
Posted by: junior at July 10, 2013 09:38 AM (UWFpX)
Posted by: CAC at July 10, 2013 09:38 AM (Nnu4n)
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 01:35 PM (lZvxr)
I think the agricultural areas of the state would not elect a Boxer/Feinstein type. Not a Californian, but, clearly their are people who would love to be in a different state than California without actually moving.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 10, 2013 09:39 AM (kXoT0)
In some ways, I think the media is missing the bigger story on Spitzer. Spitzer's biggest offense (in my mind anyway) was his use of the power of government to bully his opponents and make a name for himself. He relentlessly pursued Wall Street -- in a bad way -- and used the power of the law to do it. For all his sanctimony, he was not willing and able to abide by the same laws he so mercilessly held other people to.
In a weird way, Spitzer's situation reminds me of the parable of the unmerciful servent that I remember from Sunday School:
Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand talents was brought to him. Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.
"The servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.
"But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii. He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.
"His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay you back.’
"But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. When the other servants saw what had happened, they were greatly distressed and went and told their master everything that had happened.
"Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’ In anger his master turned him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.
Posted by: nc at July 10, 2013 09:39 AM (fkBVg)
Posted by: Fanboyz at July 10, 2013 09:39 AM (ikxXh)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 10, 2013 09:39 AM (wqcCk)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 09:39 AM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 10, 2013 09:39 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 10, 2013 09:39 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 10, 2013 09:39 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: no good deed at July 10, 2013 09:39 AM (WmLrU)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 10, 2013 01:33 PM (a3iAA)
West Virginia is a special case, a division from its mother state brought about by the Civil War and one not likely to be replicated. I just drove through there a few months ago and fell in love with the beauty of the place and the friendliness of its people, became interested in all things West Virginian. Going back as soon as I can.
Posted by: troyriser at July 10, 2013 09:40 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 10, 2013 09:40 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 10, 2013 09:40 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Arms Merchant at July 10, 2013 09:40 AM (pginn)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2013 09:40 AM (pZ0pM)
Posted by: Fanboyz at July 10, 2013 01:39 PM (ikxXh)
Sandy Fluke, your country needs you!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 10, 2013 09:41 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2013 09:41 AM (TKg/I)
Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2013 09:42 AM (x/5aM)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 10, 2013 09:42 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 09:42 AM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 10, 2013 09:42 AM (V1ZIU)
Wow, just wow. Yep, worrying about the slaughter of a child is a real mood killer.
Posted by: no good deed at July 10, 2013 09:42 AM (WmLrU)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:42 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work... at July 10, 2013 09:42 AM (9p9R7)
Aren't there a lot of Coloradans who would love a divorce from the "Boulder Bullies"?
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 10, 2013 09:43 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 10, 2013 09:43 AM (HDgX3)
Given the fact that DOJ was organizing the Zimmerman protests, does that begin to explain the Judge's "bitchiness"? Did someone give the Judge a "talking to"? Or did they select the Judge, knowing she would put her thumb on the scales?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2013 09:43 AM (gtjN1)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 10, 2013 09:43 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 10, 2013 01:38 PM (R8hU
He really made a mistake being an OBGYN. With that name, he should be a Urologist. Just think of the marketing opportunities for his practice.
Posted by: Slappy at July 10, 2013 09:43 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: willow at July 10, 2013 09:44 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: irright at July 10, 2013 09:44 AM (Ze8oh)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 10, 2013 09:45 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 10, 2013 09:45 AM (/PCJa)
Well they were admitted to the union on their own petition based on the premise that they were "Colorado" So I think not only would the state have to agree to split...both halves, but the Congress who admitted them in the first place would also have to agree.
That's why California will never be split into two states. The majority in the South that exploit the minority in the north would never allow their personal water supply it's own sovereignty, because then we could charge them for the water they take from us, or, not give it to them at all and reinvigorate our farming communities.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at July 10, 2013 09:45 AM (0q2P7)
Sphygmo means pulse or throb in Greek, according to online dictionaries.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2013 09:45 AM (gtjN1)
In California haven't many parts of LA tried to secede, but LA won't let them?
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I don't think so. I could be mistaken, but I don't think that it's the city proper that most of the unincorporated areas try to secede from. Instead, I think it's primarily the LA Unified School District. The district covers the entirety of unincorporated LA, which essentially means that anywhere in the county is potentially a part of the district. It's too big, and everyone knows it, and it has problems in part because of that. But the city can't afford to split the district up because then it wouldn't be able to use the richer areas (who would split off into their own school district) to subsidize the poorer areas.
The city doesn't seem to have an issue with alternate arrangements. Pasadena, which is an incorporated city, essentially runs all of the public services (police, fire, school, etc...) in adjacent Altadena, which is an unincorporated part of LA.
Posted by: junior at July 10, 2013 09:45 AM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Baldy at July 10, 2013 09:46 AM (tyDFN)
>>> And don't be surprised if casual sex outside of relationships becomes far more difficult to come by.
AKA the Lysistrata Gambit
Posted by: Bigby's Bloody Knuckles at July 10, 2013 09:46 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 10, 2013 09:46 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 10, 2013 01:42 PM (V1ZIU)
Gentlemen! We've got to protect our phoney baloney jobs! Harrumph!
I believe that the statehood question could get on the ballot, and that it would pass. Not sure the CO legislature would present it to Congress for their consideration. Almost damn sure it would have a hard time clearing Congress, depending on which party has the upper hand at the time. And even if it DID pass Congress, expect legal challenges from various corners for the rest of our natural lives.
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 10, 2013 09:46 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Lauren at July 10, 2013 09:47 AM (ikxXh)
Posted by: Baldy at July 10, 2013 01:46 PM (tyDFN)
I don't know about Spitz, but, Weiner's wife was Hillary's girlfriend. I am not a guy, but, would not a man with even a shred of self respect object to your young wife being with a hag?
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 10, 2013 09:47 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2013 01:43 PM (gtjN1)
When have you EVER seen a family court judge assigned to a high profile murder trial?
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 09:48 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:48 AM (wR+pz)
I don't know, but a sphygnomanometer is a blood pressure cuff. Did I miss sarcasm somewhere?
Posted by: no good deed at July 10, 2013 09:48 AM (WmLrU)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 10, 2013 01:27 PM (zF6Iw)
You may be right, but I think that
1. The dems will overreach as always
2. Inflation will rise, and when people can't buy what they're accustomed to on X salary or even on the government check then they're going to wake up
Of course if we didn't have a state-run media or if we had a functional opposition party I think it wouldn't come to this, but that's the cards we've been dealt this hand.
I guess we'll see what happens when we have Rodney King Riots redux: Escape from Florida.
Posted by: LT at July 10, 2013 09:49 AM (mX6UJ)
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 01:48 PM (lZvxr)
-- That would be never?
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 10, 2013 09:49 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 10, 2013 09:50 AM (a3iAA)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 10, 2013 09:50 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: DaveinNC at July 10, 2013 09:51 AM (boNGU)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:51 AM (wR+pz)
>>>Reason #4
Cheap and easy physical pleasure via the objectification of not just another but yourself will be *slightly* more difficult. You may actually *have* to get to know each other a *little* first before hopping in the sack *just in case*.
My God.
Everything we♣ ever warned about with the sexual revolution is 100% true. Not only is it true, it's openly true to the point that the DIRE consequences we predicted are now being used as selling points for the status quo.
♣In all fairness I wasn't alive when the whole thing went down. I speak of we in the "I would have been with you had I been there" sense of conservative community.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at July 10, 2013 09:51 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 10, 2013 09:51 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2013 09:51 AM (pZ0pM)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 10, 2013 09:52 AM (a3iAA)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 10, 2013 01:50 PM (ZPrif)
-- Demographics are destiny
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 10, 2013 09:52 AM (R8hU8)
I don't know how common that is. I assume it's very uncommon, but I'm a software guy and the legal system constantly baffles me with its arcane and weird rules and customs.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2013 09:52 AM (44jNh)
BTW, whatever happened to that "pregnancy" Huma-dor supposedly had toward the end of that scandal?
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 10, 2013 01:50 PM (a3iAA)
The kid is 18 months old now:
http://tinyurl.com/krlnyos
Posted by: Slappy at July 10, 2013 09:52 AM (LTbLf)
Wow, just wow. Yep, worrying about the slaughter of a child is a real mood killer.
Posted by: no good deed at July 10, 2013 01:42 PM (WmLrU)
I think sacrificing the sex life of a bunch of irresponsible young'ns is a small price to pay for saving the lives of children. Their ability to get casual sex is really low on the list of human priorities.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 10, 2013 09:52 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:53 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Waldo at July 10, 2013 09:53 AM (vDjkK)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 10, 2013 01:50 PM (ZPrif)
Atlanta grew rapidly in the past 10 - 20 years because that is where Detroit flushed its shit to. The Detroit commode is virtually empty now so Atlanta's growth has slowed and will actually decrease as the still viable peanuts leave the sewer trying to separate from the turds.
BTW, the rest of GA disowned Atlanta long long ago.
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 09:53 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: UWP at July 10, 2013 09:53 AM (r98SZ)
Posted by: blaster at July 10, 2013 09:54 AM (W6bkf)
Posted by: RWC at July 10, 2013 09:54 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 10, 2013 09:54 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: zsasz at July 10, 2013 09:54 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 10, 2013 09:54 AM (a3iAA)
Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2013 01:52 PM (44jNh)
The last time we had a high profile murder trial here they sent the AG for the State to try the case.
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 09:55 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: Billy Bob
They're both law professors. AmishDude can fill you in on the rest.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 10, 2013 09:55 AM (xvZYu)
plus, there are a lot of buttons and switches
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 10, 2013 09:55 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 10, 2013 09:55 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Johnnyreb at July 10, 2013 09:55 AM (cDr8Y)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:55 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2013 09:56 AM (pZ0pM)
The judge is trying to force a mistrial ???
Posted by: The Chicken at July 10, 2013 09:56 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 10, 2013 09:56 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:57 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Waldo at July 10, 2013 09:57 AM (vDjkK)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 10, 2013 09:57 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 10, 2013 01:50 PM (a3iAA)
She had a son named Jordan. http://www.celebritybabyscoop.com/2012/04/20/anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-shop-with-son
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 10, 2013 09:58 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: UWP at July 10, 2013 09:58 AM (r98SZ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 10, 2013 09:58 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:59 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2013 09:59 AM (pZ0pM)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 09:59 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 10, 2013 09:59 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Bigby's Bloody Knuckles at July 10, 2013 09:59 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: irright at July 10, 2013 09:59 AM (Ze8oh)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 10, 2013 10:00 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 10, 2013 10:00 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 10, 2013 10:01 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2013 10:01 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 10, 2013 10:01 AM (HDgX3)
She had him under oath, so perhaps it was a perjury trap. Lord knows, they got nothing else.
Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 10, 2013 10:01 AM (codCi)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 10, 2013 10:01 AM (a3iAA)
Posted by: RWC at July 10, 2013 10:02 AM (fWAjv)
Sphygmoid Smegma would make a great punk band name.
I saw Sphygmoid Smegma open for Royal Trux back in '89.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 10, 2013 10:02 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 10, 2013 10:02 AM (zOTsN)
Section 3 - New States
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 10:02 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: Bigby's Bloody Knuckles at July 10, 2013 10:03 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at July 10, 2013 10:03 AM (r+7wo)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 10, 2013 10:03 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Mayor Tony "Stubby" Weiner at July 10, 2013 10:03 AM (QW+AD)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 10, 2013 10:03 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: zsasz at July 10, 2013 10:03 AM (MMC8r)
Atlanta's population growth is good compared to rust belt cities -- it's poor compared to other fast-growing southern cities. Atlanta is no longer the destination of choice.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 10, 2013 01:50 PM (ZPrif)
I was offered a big promotion and raise to manage my former employer's office in Atlanta.
I said no thanks. That's one good thing about being single with no kids. You don't feel a responsibility to accept misery for the good of others.
Posted by: polynikes at July 10, 2013 10:03 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 10, 2013 10:03 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 10:04 AM (mCNwt)
Funny thing, all those weird rules and customs.
Posted by: Cicero, Mid-Level Priest of Arcane and Wierd Rules and Legal Customs, Yours for Just $400 and Hour at July 10, 2013 10:04 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 10, 2013 10:05 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Country Singer at July 10, 2013 10:05 AM (L8r/r)
Posted by: LaQuisha Largess at July 10, 2013 10:05 AM (90aTA)
Posted by: UWP at July 10, 2013 01:53 PM (r98SZ)
Family... Court... Judge.... she is not used to:
1. Having DEFENSE Lawyers in the Room (Family Court very very often does not even have a Defense Lawyer in the room).
2. Giving a Fair Hearing to the Defense... Family Court Judges are ALWAYS on the side of the State... and Against MEN... almost without exception.
Thus... she is just doing the Job as she Learned it from Family Court.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 10, 2013 10:05 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 10, 2013 10:05 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2013 10:05 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 10:06 AM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 10, 2013 10:06 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 10, 2013 10:06 AM (HDgX3)
303 I've gotta go to Atlanta for work-related stuff the last week of July. I'm allergic to most anti-perspirants. I will be popular LOL Imma eat lots of curry and garlic the week before
Posted by: Bigby's Bloody Knuckles at July 10, 2013 10:07 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 10, 2013 10:07 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 10, 2013 10:07 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Barky McPhuckstick at July 10, 2013 10:07 AM (i7B17)
Posted by: Bigby's Bloody Knuckles at July 10, 2013 02:03 PM (3ZtZW)
Don't forget about the slaps to the face by that one Viet Cong guy to force DeNiro and Walken to put the gun to their heads and pull the trigger. The judge will probably do that to Zimmerman by the end of the day.
Posted by: Slappy at July 10, 2013 10:08 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at July 10, 2013 10:08 AM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 10, 2013 10:08 AM (a3iAA)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2013 01:56 PM (pZ0pM)
I would think the judge is building in some reversible error, except for the fact that this a political persecution prosecution, and no doubt the appeals courts will have their own marching orders.
Think Florida appeals courts -- 2000 election.
Posted by: real joe at July 10, 2013 10:08 AM (y1DP7)
Yeah, sure, if we stuck to Cicero and the Rule of Law and all that I think we'd be better off. I don't think the American Legal system as currently constituted is a faithful representation of the ideals they pretend to adhere to.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2013 10:08 AM (2hTlI)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 10:08 AM (mCNwt)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 10, 2013 10:09 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 10, 2013 02:06 PM (HDgX3)
Not unless you add RICH to that mix. I know a lot of people who moved to that area and not even in the city. The cost of living is through the roof, especially in housing. Those people I knew who moved there were somewhere else within a year.
Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2013 10:09 AM (lZvxr)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 10, 2013 10:09 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 10, 2013 10:09 AM (a3iAA)
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 10, 2013 10:10 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 10, 2013 10:10 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 10, 2013 10:10 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Iblis at July 10, 2013 10:10 AM (9221z)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 10, 2013 10:11 AM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 10, 2013 02:06 PM (HDgX3)
Lived there for four months years before and also dated a girl that lived there so I did not make my decision uninformed. Its not the worst place to live for sure but not for me.
Posted by: polynikes at July 10, 2013 10:11 AM (m2CN7)
No.
And I say that after a long career as an appellate lawyer.
Posted by: real joe at July 10, 2013 10:12 AM (y1DP7)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2013 10:12 AM (pZ0pM)
Posted by: real joe at July 10, 2013 10:13 AM (y1DP7)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 10, 2013 10:13 AM (a3iAA)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at July 10, 2013 10:13 AM (1xQO9)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 10, 2013 10:13 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Judge Dredd at July 10, 2013 02:12 PM (BAS5M)
I don't think I could fit in one of your suits.
Posted by: Judge Nelson at July 10, 2013 10:14 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 10, 2013 02:09 PM (/PCJa)
A Republic is based on the rule of Law... if the law is not enforced equally, a Republic cannot exist.
I have said it before... they are trying to destroy the very foundation of this country, ie, the rule of Law.... this is part of the direct assault on 'the Republic, for which it stands"...
Ben Franklin was Prophetic.... 'a Republic Maam, if you can keep it'...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 10, 2013 10:15 AM (lZBBB)
Nothing is harder to do than to keep an innocent defendant from testifying. This scrunt judge just knows that Z wants to get up there and set the record straight. But it's the dumbest thing he can do right now.
I think West is trying to tell this to Z and keep him from being bullied onto that stand by the Judge.
Posted by: @JohnTant at July 10, 2013 10:16 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 10, 2013 10:17 AM (HDgX3)
Do ya think that *might* be appealable there Juris Doctor? Maybe? God I wonder what people learn in law school sometimes. Law is just a hobby of mine and I know that fails about 16 different tests for what you *cant* do.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at July 10, 2013 10:17 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Judge Dredd at July 10, 2013 02:12 PM (BAS5M)
NO, I AM THE LAW!!! Rusty, remove this pretender from my courtroom.
Posted by: Slappy at July 10, 2013 10:17 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Lt. Andrew Caffey, USN at July 10, 2013 10:18 AM (a3iAA)
Posted by: Judge Dredd at July 10, 2013 02:12 PM (BAS5M)
Let's try this again.
No, I AM THE LAW!!! Rusty, remove this pretender from my courtroom.
Posted by: Judge Wapner at July 10, 2013 10:21 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 10, 2013 10:26 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at July 10, 2013 10:26 AM (1xQO9)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at July 10, 2013 10:46 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: Typical LiV Progtarded Democrat Voter at July 10, 2013 10:54 AM (n50fF)
And also that, given that she and GZ may have speculated as to where the two lived, that somehow proves motive to kill TM.
Holy shit. Kangaroo, kangaroo, kangaroo.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 10, 2013 10:59 AM (VjL9S)
This fucker for the state is evil.
All he wants is a scalp and he don't fucking care about justice.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 10, 2013 11:02 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Rich Fader at July 10, 2013 12:17 PM (WZR61)
Ah, the double standard, alive and well and living in merica"
Posted by: caustic at July 10, 2013 05:32 PM (/b8+5)
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Posted by: phoenixgirl at work... at July 10, 2013 08:58 AM (9p9R7)