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October 11, 2013

When democrats have lost the democrats...
— Purple Avenger

These poll results are full of ~~sedition~~ goodness

...The number of Americans who say they want to fire everyone is fairly consistent among most groups Â– at around 60 percent Â– but it spikes among rural voters (70 percent), white independents (70 percent) and those in Republican-held congressional districts (67 percent). Just^(*) 52 percent of respondents in Democratic-held districts would vote to fire every lawmaker on Capitol Hill...

[NewSpeak vocabulary update alert, apply immediately!]: a majority is "just" now.

A record-low 14 percent think the country is headed in the right direction, down from 30 percent last month

Forward!

Just 17 percent think the economy will improve in the next year, while 42 percent think it will worsen.

Factoid: about 30% of the public believes in UFO's. I'm thinking when you can't out poll UFO's you maybe have a problem. JUST maybe.

Some mood music below the fold.

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1 Good times...

Posted by: loneduck at October 11, 2013 11:25 AM (n+hGq)

2 I want to believe.

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 11:25 AM (GQ8sn)

3 I wouldn't miss any of them.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2013 11:25 AM (dMGxJ)

4 Everybody wants to throw the bastards out until Election Day, when they usually reelect the same bastards as before.

Posted by: joncelli at October 11, 2013 11:26 AM (RD7QR)

5 4

"But *my* congessman is not the problem, it's all the others. My congressman cares about me."

-LIV

Posted by: loneduck at October 11, 2013 11:27 AM (n+hGq)

6 Just(*) 52 percent of respondents in Democratic-held districts would vote to fire every lawmaker on Capitol Hill... --- Which is why it is foolish to give into Obama now if even his own troops are getting restless. Republican districts aren't the ones screaming for "free bennies" out of the public coffer, for the most part. The longer the spigot stays off, the more pissed that group becomes while much of our side decides "We don't need this stuff to begin with."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 11, 2013 11:28 AM (/Crba)

7 Says the poll with a huge oversampling of government workers. So its probably a lot higher.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 11, 2013 11:29 AM (+EWko)

8 If this doesn't convince the GOP to keep the doors closed, nothing will. The longer a shutdown continues, the better the GOP does.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 11, 2013 11:29 AM (/i3Yt)

9 What could make people think we are heading in the wrong direction?

Strange?

Posted by: Kreplach at October 11, 2013 11:29 AM (hmUex)

10 Maybe because it's easier to relate and deal with UFOs. Representative government? Not so much.

Posted by: nakoula basseley nakoula at October 11, 2013 11:29 AM (MnSla)

11 So would term limits help or hurt? It seems like the revolving door in DC is so bad that they are assimilated into the liberal-media-cocktail circuit within days of arriving. The only thing that keeps them from acting completely contrary to our interests is the fact they have to run for re-election.

I worry that without that threat, they would be completely out of control.

I know, I know, how could it be worse than it is now?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2013 11:30 AM (dMGxJ)

12 "I see UFOs on TV all the time. Congresscritters not so much." - LIV

Posted by: Iblis at October 11, 2013 11:30 AM (U0ndG)

13 Supposedly. Representative

Posted by: nakoula basseley nakoula at October 11, 2013 11:31 AM (MnSla)

14 Speaking of Democrats, I see Morning Joe Scabrough (sic) is gettin' a divorce. Again. 2 more fatherless kids to join them from his first marriage.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at October 11, 2013 11:31 AM (QVLOT)

15 Our opponent is down! Quick, surrender!

Posted by: 29Victor at October 11, 2013 11:31 AM (fbrwf)

16 Stupid sock...off

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 11, 2013 11:32 AM (MnSla)

17 it's just not an authentic majority.

Posted by: mallfly at October 11, 2013 11:32 AM (bJm7W)

18 *pedant hat on* Just because someone believes in UFOs doesn't mean they believe in aliens. There is all kinds of crap up there that's not immediately identifiable. Doesn't mean it's an alien. *pedant hat off* But it's totally aliens. I would like to think this is the beginning of a shift in thinking that it's not if a person deserves to be voted out of office but whether that person deserves to stay in office but we'll see. I've been hearing Throw All The Bums Out for mumblemumble years.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 11, 2013 11:33 AM (VtjlW)

19 I wonder what percent of the population thinks Obama is a UFO.

Posted by: mallfly at October 11, 2013 11:33 AM (bJm7W)

What was the question in the poll?

I'd fire my senators in a NY minute (Klobuchar and Stuart Smalley).

Michelle Bachmann is hated and mocked, but at least she represents my position (and the majority of the Morons on this blog).

Posted by: rd at October 11, 2013 11:34 AM (D+lxs)

I believe UFO's are piloted by ghost Sasquatches.

But it's pretty stupid to think they built the Pyramids.

Posted by: eleven at October 11, 2013 11:34 AM (GXZgZ)

22 19 I wonder what percent of the population thinks Obama is a UFO.

Posted by: mallfly at October 11, 2013 03:33 PM (bJm7W)

Useless

Fu##ing

Orifice

me think him is

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 11, 2013 11:34 AM (MnSla)

23 so it was "just" 51% that voted for TFG now? Good to know...

Posted by: Drumwaster at October 11, 2013 11:35 AM (K6BSx)

24 But he prayed about it first, and the Baby Jesus said it was ok

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at October 11, 2013 11:35 AM (QVLOT)

25 21
I believe UFO's are piloted by ghost Sasquatches.

But it's pretty stupid to think they built the Pyramids.

Posted by: eleven at October 11, 2013 03:34 PM (GXZgZ)

Ghost-Sasquatchist!

Posted by: joncelli at October 11, 2013 11:35 AM (RD7QR)

26 Well that post went badly. I blame shutdown.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 11, 2013 11:36 AM (MnSla)

27 Term limits are good. It establishes that these are not careers. I like Mark Levin's term limit amendment that no person may serve more than twelve years in congress in total, whether the Senate or House. Keeps those perpetual congressmen from being so.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 11, 2013 11:36 AM (6kd1+)

28 *pedant hat on* Just because someone believes in UFOs doesn't mean they believe in aliens. There is all kinds of crap up there that's not immediately identifiable. Doesn't mean it's an alien. *pedant hat off* And just because a person believes in aliens doesn't mean they believe aliens are visiting this planet. I believe there is life on other planets. The Universe is just too darn big not to have life somewhere. By definition those are aliens. Do I believe they're flying around in crafts in our atmosphere? Nope.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 11, 2013 11:36 AM (yETln)

29 Finally, a happy post. Thanks, Purp.

Posted by: L, elle at October 11, 2013 11:36 AM (0PiQ4)

Posted by: rd at October 11, 2013 03:34 PM (D+lxs)

And the rest of the clowns in the MN delegation? I *might* keep Kline or Paulsen.

And Bachmann is getting out. This is her last term.

Posted by: rd at October 11, 2013 11:36 AM (D+lxs)

31 Belief in UFO's is rather a mild +strike against anyone. I've seen one, so what's not to believe. Even the NYT reported it and no one ever figured out what it was.

Belief in Alien UFOs is quite another item. I'll abstain from the discussion on that one.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 11, 2013 11:37 AM (ndlFj)

32 Not a cure but using bar association membership to keep lawyers from public office would slash the kind of corruption and insider deals that we see today. It's all about getting insider access and lawyers epitomize that.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 11, 2013 11:37 AM (+uqy7)

33 Blue stupid fuckers will still vote for blue stupid fuckers. But, a fair number may be pissed enough over the incompetence-on-display to break the criticism cone of silence.

Posted by: Beefy at October 11, 2013 11:37 AM (bUmSq)

34 God I hate polls.

There is extremely little meaning in a congressional approval poll. Why have them? I mean, it's not like we vote them all in as a group or something. It's pointless.

A more meaningful poll question would be "Do you approve of your current representative(s)?", but even then, given that most people have no idea who their Senators are, let alone who their congresscritter is, it's probably not that much more meaningful.

Posted by: Nonapod at October 11, 2013 11:37 AM (K4vtd)

35 "Factoid: about 30% of the public believes in UFO's. I'm thinking when you can't out poll UFO's you maybe have a problem. JUST maybe." Yeah, because at least UFOs are real. Obamacare is just a mirage.

Posted by: zombie at October 11, 2013 11:37 AM (+cx5n)

36 Just to be clear, there is a BIG difference between things in the sky you can't readily identify (ie UFOs) and Extra-terrestrial vehicles.

I believe in the first thing. . .and I've seen some.

The second thing. . .eh. . .not so much.

Posted by: looking closely at October 11, 2013 11:38 AM (6Q9g2)

37 Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray can go suck an egg in the unemployment line. I believe Patty Murray is dumber than Sheila Jackson Lee. Less crazy too.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 11, 2013 11:38 AM (yETln)

38 34 God I hate polls. There is extremely little meaning in a congressional approval poll. Why have them? I mean, it's not like we vote them all in as a group or something. It's pointless. A more meaningful poll question would be "Do you approve of your current representative(s)?", but even then, given that most people have no idea who their Senators are, let alone who their congresscritter is, it's probably not that much more meaningful. Posted by: Nonapod +1000 That's all that needs to be said, really.

Posted by: zombie at October 11, 2013 11:39 AM (+cx5n)

39 Ghost-Sasquatchist! Posted by: joncelli at October 11, 2013 03:35 PM (RD7QR) Wait, when's that on SciFi, I need to set my dvr.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 11, 2013 11:39 AM (VtjlW)

40 The real bar for comparison, is how many people believe Elvis is still alive.

Posted by: looking closely at October 11, 2013 11:40 AM (6Q9g2)

41 These type of polls, including ones on 404Care, have a fatal flaw though -- They do not ask WHY they are unhappy. Dems are unhappy because 404 or gubmint isn't doing enough or hasn't gone far enough.

The reasons for the unhappiness are diametrically opposite.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 11, 2013 11:40 AM (cHZB7)

42 And 98% of incumbents will be re-elected like always.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 11, 2013 11:41 AM (HDgX3)

A more meaningful poll question would be "Do you approve of your current representative(s)?", but even then, given that most people have no idea who their Senators are, let alone who their congresscritter is, it's probably not that much more meaningful.

Posted by: Nonapod at October 11, 2013 03:37 PM (K4vtd)

Low Information Voters AND Low Information NON Voters are interviewed by Low Information Pollsters and the results are reported by Low Information Mass Media Reporters.

If any of the above have above average intelligence, it is purely a random chance of the polled population.

Posted by: rd at October 11, 2013 11:41 AM (D+lxs)

44 #34. There is extremely little meaning in a congressional approval poll. Why have them? I mean, it's not like we vote them all in as a group or something. It's pointless.
====

Its like lawyers. . .they all suck except mine.

Politicians. . .I hate all of them except the ones that represent my district.

To the extent that a poll like this matters (and I agree it barely does), what matters is the TREND. IE do more people than usual think Washington sucks?

Posted by: looking closely at October 11, 2013 11:42 AM (6Q9g2)

45 A more meaningful poll question would be "Do you approve of your current representative(s)?"

Had you read the linked piece you would have found the words:

"defeat and replace every single member of Congress, including their own representative, they would"

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 11, 2013 11:42 AM (l5zzX)

46 From the prev thread. Perfectly disgusting and riotously hilarious.

***

Whoopie tasted like Cocoa Butter and Rotten Fish.

Posted by: Ted Danson at October 11, 2013 03:23 PM (32Ze2)

Posted by: dananjcon at October 11, 2013 11:43 AM (wmU4G)

47 Just to be clear, there is a BIG difference between things in the sky you can't readily identify (ie UFOs) and Extra-terrestrial vehicles. I believe in the first thing. . .and I've seen some. The second thing. . .eh. . .not so much. Posted by: looking closely at October 11, 2013 03:38 PM (6Q9g2) Since this is now a UFO thread, here's what I always think about UFOs. If the stealth bomber is what we're flying over NASCAR races and the Super Bowl, what the hell are the super sekrit aircraft like? Probably fly sized drones but still. Remember, the Air Force was all oh you mean this gate key about the existence of the stealth bomber after all. RE: Aliens. As someone who loves me some Ancient Aliens, do I believe they exist? Well, I want to believe because that would be awesome. Do I believe there is life out there in the rest of the Universe? If it's good enough for C.S. Lewis, it's good enough for me. Do I think they care about us? Ahahahahahahahahaha. No.
I am fond of the zoo theory though.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 11, 2013 11:43 AM (VtjlW)

48 I like the man on the street interviews where they tell a person a certain position is Obama's position and they're all for it. Even if it's the sort of thing a Tea Partier would embrace.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 11, 2013 11:43 AM (yETln)

The real bar for comparison, is how many people believe Elvis is still alive.

Posted by: looking closely at October 11, 2013 03:40 PM (6Q9g2)

He died last year in Panama at age 77.

Posted by: rd at October 11, 2013 11:43 AM (D+lxs)

50 I remember a poll in 2008 where 35% of people thought Republicans controlled congress. Just remember that when you read polls that people are mad as hell and they want change. For 1/3 of the people they don't even have a clue who they're mad at.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 11, 2013 11:44 AM (HDgX3)

51 I blame Ted Cruz.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 11, 2013 11:45 AM (TuuHQ)

52 How screwed are we?

If we decided to go on austerity kick and only had balanced budgets and didn't borrow another nickel and paid as we go, if we dedicated 100 billion every year to pay off our debt it would take 175 years to do it.

If we wanted to do it over the course of 30 years we would have to fork over 600 billion every year. Roughly what we spend on the military.

So in other words it ain't happening by doing means testing on some elderly folk.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 11, 2013 11:45 AM (hmUex)

53 so, I guess now is the time to surrender? I mean, what's the plan son? Plan? A Ruskie don't take a dump, son, without a plan. So, does either side have a plan? Obama's plan was to live play democrat fan fiction that the shutdown was a slam dunk win for democrats. There is no plan B. Boehner's plan should be to secure: a. at least a fucking budget that doesn't have a trillion dollar deficit. You know, match revenue. b. fine, delay obamacare mandate.

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at October 11, 2013 11:45 AM (QxSug)

54 And this is probably why Obama ditched his "No Negotiations" position; the numbers were heading south and looked to accelerate that way.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy one Infuriation and get two Junior Snits for Free! at October 11, 2013 11:45 AM (hLRSq)

55 OT

The Egyptian Princess here at work ordered a Dell server and it arrived here this past Tuesday. Unfortunately, it has now gone missing and she cannot find any trace of it after it was dropped off. Security cam footage shows the package delivery person coming into our building with a full cart, and leaving with an empty cart. The server was visible on the cart coming in. No cameras were pointed at the admin's desk where all the packages were dumped.

She is offering a "reward" to the person that can help her find it.

Horde, I need a Dell Power Edge server right NOW! Please help me!

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 11:46 AM (GQ8sn)

56 Just got a great phone call I never would've gotten back in MA. Some guy I gave scrap metal (lawnmower, storage racks, etc.) to a couple years ago is sending over some sort of white liquor concoction as payback. Totally forgot about the guy, he just dropped it off with a coworker who is bringing it right over. Should be interesting.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 11, 2013 11:46 AM (ZshNr)

57 but i wuz first on the nate silver blog? whered it go?

Posted by: ButwhaddaIknow? at October 11, 2013 11:47 AM (5aT64)

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at October 11, 2013 03:45 PM (QxSug)

Even with the sucky economy, tax revenues are projected to give us a 700 Billion or 0.7 Trillion Deficit. (last I looked)

Posted by: rd at October 11, 2013 11:47 AM (D+lxs)

59 High grade shine can have quite a kick. Ease into it.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 11, 2013 11:48 AM (l5zzX)

60 When the LIVs start to complain to me about ObamaCare copays and deductibles, I'll tell them that "Just" a majority thinks they're only paying a fair share.

Posted by: Roy at October 11, 2013 11:48 AM (VndSC)

61 But...but the Daily Kos guy said immigration is going to shatter our party!!1!

Posted by: Redneck Guy at October 11, 2013 11:48 AM (F6KtL)

62 Even with the sucky economy, tax revenues are projected to give us a 700 Billion or 0.7 Trillion Deficit. (last I looked)

Why has the deficit come down from over one trillion? Sequester? Can't be that much, could it?

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 11:48 AM (GQ8sn)

63 "[if they could] defeat and replace every single member of Congress, including their own representative, they would"

I've wondered for a while whether the right should get behind the idea of Constitutional amendments for federal level referendum and recall.

(Here in Commiefornia, we have referendum, recall and initiative rights at the state level, and by Poseidon's whiskers, do NOT copy the last of those three at the federal level, no matter what. CA initiatives have been the single most insane and abused feature of state politics here for the last couple of decades.)

Posted by: torquewrench at October 11, 2013 11:48 AM (gqT4g)

64 I don't care if we have to chase them all the way to Berlin! They *will* accept our surrender!

Posted by: Supreme Allied Commander J. Boehner at October 11, 2013 11:48 AM (FcR7P)

65 Adjusted for inflation and population growth, federal spending today is 30% more than it was in 1980. Over 33 years there have been Dem presidents and Rep presidents. Dem control of congress and Rep control of congress. At the end of the day people elect the govt they want and deserve. And the peopel have spoken...they want more spending and higher taxes. And now that they're getting more spending and higher taxes they're crying like a little bitch and having a hissy fit. And what will they do in 2014? Vote for spending and higher taxes and in 2016 and 2018 and 2020 and forever.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 11, 2013 11:48 AM (HDgX3)

66 She is offering a "reward" to the person that can help her find it. Have your network admins look for a new server plugged into the network. Then have the person who has possession of it arrested.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 11, 2013 11:48 AM (yETln)

67 Horde, I need a Dell Power Edge server right NOW! Please help me! Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 03:46 PM (GQ8sn) What the hell? It takes talent to lose that. Did you look in everyone's trunk? In all seriousness, you're the only ones in that building, right? Go down to the server room, look behind the door and around the corner and under the server rack for what looks like the box for one of the old servers. It's there. That or underneath the receptionist's desk because she forgot to buzz IT to let them know it's here. See also storage closet where you keep coffee and stuff because hey I'll just stick it in there for safe keeping until they come get it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 11, 2013 11:49 AM (VtjlW)

68 Yeah, but aren't we about to cave? I was told there would be caving.

Posted by: William Shatner's Pants at October 11, 2013 11:49 AM (FkRuX)

69 Gerrymandering based on politics and proportional politically correct representation, not geographic area , has a lot to do with it. Mr. Newt used to talk about this. And don't forget, the exit polls, hell all the 2012 polls, showed the voters agreed with the GOP positions on just about everything except for one thing: "who cares about you more?" And the Rats won that question by a huge margin. Thus we re-elected president participation trophy.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at October 11, 2013 11:49 AM (1M/xn)

70 just 52 percent Isn't that a mandate?

Posted by: t-bird at October 11, 2013 11:49 AM (FcR7P)

71 Have your network admins look for a new server plugged into the network. Then have the person who has possession of it arrested.

No, I want to find the server and give it to her so I can collect the reward.

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 11:49 AM (GQ8sn)

72 Factoid: about 30% of the public believes in UFO's. I'm thinking when you can't out poll UFO's you maybe have a problem. JUST maybe. Unicorns?

Posted by: t-bird at October 11, 2013 11:50 AM (FcR7P)

73 Horde, I need a Dell Power Edge server right NOW! Please help me! Who signed for it? Make them responsible for it.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 11, 2013 11:50 AM (yETln)

74 If we wanted to do it over the course of 30 years we would have to fork over 600 billion every year. Roughly what we spend on the military. Posted by: Kreplach at October 11, 2013 03:45 PM (hmUex) ________________ So we just get rid of the military. Problem solved. - Liberals everywhere

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 11, 2013 11:50 AM (HDgX3)

She is offering a "reward" to the person that can help her find it.

Have your network admins look for a new server plugged into the network. Then have the person who has possession of it arrested.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 11, 2013 03:48 PM (yETln)

If you have security cam footage of the exits, someone left with a big box.

Posted by: rd at October 11, 2013 11:50 AM (D+lxs)

76 Forget trying to out-poll UFO believers. When you've dropped below the percentage of Americans that like Nickleback, you're royally boned.

Posted by: Scott M at October 11, 2013 11:50 AM (AdBfq)

77 How about we get the fucking government OUT of this business altogether? http://tinyurl.com/lemn7t4

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2013 11:51 AM (9XBK2)

78 Oh, only 700 billion. lol. We are here because for 5 years, the dickless GOP has been too cowardly to hold Obama accountable as he ran the country without a budget, using carried over Porkulus funding each year as his own stash. Thus, Obama's raised deficit $6trillion from what I've seen. Before Booooosh lost Congress, his deficit was $200bn.

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at October 11, 2013 11:51 AM (QxSug)

79 Check loading dock footage. It probably walked out the back door in a maintenance cart.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 11, 2013 11:51 AM (l5zzX)

80 What the hell? It takes talent to lose that.

Did you look in everyone's trunk?

In all seriousness, you're the only ones in that building, right? Go down to the server room, look behind the door and around the corner and under the server rack for what looks like the box for one of the old servers. It's there.

That or underneath the receptionist's desk because she forgot to buzz IT to let them know it's here. See also storage closet where you keep coffee and stuff because hey I'll just stick it in there for safe keeping until they come get it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 11, 2013 03:49 PM (VtjlW)

She's been looking for it since it arrived. She's filed a report and security is checking all the cameras in our building. All of them.

But I still want to find it myself.

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 11:51 AM (GQ8sn)

81 No, I want to find the server and give it to her so I can collect the reward. --- Want to take a trip down the Nile, huh?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 11, 2013 11:51 AM (/Crba)

82
Heh, heh, heh.

Nobody will notice me as I creep out all hunched over with this PowerEdge under my arm . . .

Posted by: Guy in Fedora and Overcoat at October 11, 2013 11:51 AM (OZmbA)

83 11 So would term limits help or hurt? It seems like the revolving door in DC is so bad that they are assimilated into the liberal-media-cocktail circuit within days of arriving. The only thing that keeps them from acting completely contrary to our interests is the fact they have to run for re-election.

I worry that without that threat, they would be completely out of control.

I know, I know, how could it be worse than it is now?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2013 03:30 PM (dMGxJ)

====

given the government bureaucracy and the labor agreements, it is truly difficult to fire a bureaucrat. in a terrible way, the politicians are the only ones that are actually accountable -- and the incumbents have such a huge advantage that even that accountability is really small.

we need to be cognizant of the dictatorship of the bureaucracy and not cut off our ways to try to control that monster.

Posted by: jc at October 11, 2013 11:51 AM (i8c5b)

84 If you have security cam footage of the exits, someone left with a big box. --- Leave my personal life out of it!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 11, 2013 11:52 AM (/Crba)

85 No, I want to find the server and give it to her so I can collect the reward. Ooooh, she's cute, I get it.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 11, 2013 11:52 AM (yETln)

86 Want to take a trip down the Nile, huh?

It's very nice ride!

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 11:52 AM (GQ8sn)

87 b. fine, delay obamacare mandate.

I like option c which is make obamacare implementation complete no waivers, delays or deviations from the law as written.

People need to feel the pain from the crap these idiots passed as law.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 11, 2013 11:52 AM (wrS2o)

88 She's been looking for it since it arrived. She's filed a report and security is checking all the cameras in our building. All of them. But I still want to find it myself. Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 03:51 PM (GQ8sn) You know the rules.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 11, 2013 11:52 AM (VtjlW)

89 That's sexiss.

Posted by: eleven at October 11, 2013 11:52 AM (VhqUZ)

90 You know the rules.

Can't.

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 11:53 AM (GQ8sn)

91 I like option c which is make obamacare implementation complete no waivers, delays or deviations from the law as written. *********** c is fun. I should have mentioned it, something like removing Obama's illegal waiver power. but that's not gonna happen.

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at October 11, 2013 11:53 AM (QxSug)

92 but.... plan d. Law giving people standing to sue over being affected by other people's waivers.

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at October 11, 2013 11:53 AM (QxSug)

93 69 Gerrymandering based on politics and proportional politically correct representation, not geographic area , has a lot to do with it. Mr. Newt used to talk about this. And don't forget, the exit polls, hell all the 2012 polls, showed the voters agreed with the GOP positions on just about everything except for one thing: "who cares about you more?" And the Rats won that question by a huge margin. Thus we re-elected president participation trophy. Posted by: Buckeye Katie at October 11, 2013 03:49 PM (1M/xn) ___________ Marketing is the art of selling something nobody needs and convincing them they need more of it. This is what Democrats do well. Republicans....not so much. And you can blame the media and that is certainly a part of it. But Democrats always have a cohesive message. Nobody ever goes off that message. No matter how absurd the message is, everyone sticks to it. Compare that to the GOP which couldn't for a cohesive message to describe what color the sky is.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 11, 2013 11:53 AM (HDgX3)

94 "I like the man on the street interviews where they tell a person a certain position is Obama's position and they're all for it."

I was gobsmacked by the petitioners asking libtard students to sign up to support fourth trimester abortion rights. Because, Obama. And getting a flood of signatures.

I figure we need eightieth trimester abortion for some of these nitwit students.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 11, 2013 11:54 AM (gqT4g)

95 I actually dated a chick who looked like a hot, young version of Whoopi Goldberg. I know that's hard to imagine, but it's true. She was crazy hot. If you were told she was Whoopi's daughter or niece or something you'd believe, you'd see the resemblance. She had similar cheekbones, hair, and complexion. But all amped up with about 400% more femininity and youthful curvaceousness.. She actually was a model. The most objectively hot chick I've ever dated. Also the only professional model. People would often comment, unprompted on how stunning she was. It actually limits how much i can hate on Whoopi cause Whoopi reminds me of her.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 11, 2013 11:54 AM (ZPrif)

96 I might go coble an empty server case together from spare parts and duct tape.

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 11:54 AM (GQ8sn)

97 If you don't believe in aliens and UFO's, then where the heck do the anal probes come from?

Uranus?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 11, 2013 11:54 AM (FHXMu)

98 When I was a kid there was a saying, "Don't trust anyone over 30". Like everything, including short skirts, it went out of fashion. But like everything, including short skirts, it will once again come back into fashion. The Democrats seem unable to show the 'old guard' the likes of Kerry, Pelosi, Reid, and Hillary the door. Obama is nothing but the waiter delivering their order to your table. We seem unable to tell the 'old guard' of our own party to sit the hell down and shut the hell up. So the young are going to get strapped with health insurance they can't possibly afford, pay for a social security system that even 20 million low information immigrants are only going to worsen, compete for jobs with the same group, and attempt to pay down a national debt that is out of control. I hope our side gets smarter before the other side.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 11, 2013 11:55 AM (U2UQk)

99 Disco Inferno?

Must be time for some craptacular late 70's NBA basketball on tape-delay!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 11, 2013 11:55 AM (wtvvX)

100 Like everything, including short skirts, it went out of fashion. But like everything, including short skirts, it will once again come back into fashion.

Short skirts never went out of fashion in my book.

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 11:55 AM (GQ8sn)

101 "Some guy I gave scrap metal (lawnmower, storage racks, etc.) to a couple years ago is sending over some sort of white liquor concoction as payback."

Did you give him a radiator and a roll of copper line?

Posted by: torquewrench at October 11, 2013 11:55 AM (gqT4g)

102 69 Gerrymandering based on politics and proportional politically correct representation, not geographic area , has a lot to do with it. Mr. Newt used to talk about this. And don't forget, the exit polls, hell all the 2012 polls, showed the voters agreed with the GOP positions on just about everything except for one thing: "who cares about you more?" And the Rats won that question by a huge margin. Thus we re-elected president participation trophy.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at October 11, 2013 03:49 PM (1M/xn)

===

that is why the proper attack is 4 things said over, and over, and over till we all want to puke --

democrats:

are unreasonable/insensible/incompetent

are irresponsible

do not listen

do not care.

Why doesn't the right attack on the "do not care" angle? It is literally all they have, why keep refusing to take it away?

Posted by: jc at October 11, 2013 11:56 AM (i8c5b)

103 People need to feel the pain from the crap these idiots passed as law. They will, and then they'll demand we get taxed harder. Eventually all the wealth will be consumed.

Posted by: t-bird at October 11, 2013 11:57 AM (FcR7P)

104 @74

I only threw in the military to illustrate the mathematical/political impossibility to pay down the debt we have accumulated.

So the question is where do we go from here?

When does the collapse officially begin?

Posted by: Kreplach at October 11, 2013 11:57 AM (hmUex)

105 60% of Americans think both parties suck. So basically, 20% of the population are diehard blue teamers and 20% are diehard red teamers. The rest of us have to listen to these losers try to persuade us of how horrible the other team is and how great America would be if we would just root for their team.

Posted by: stickety at October 11, 2013 11:58 AM (+Vm+w)

106 He got whatever the last owners left in the cellar or under the shed.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 11, 2013 11:58 AM (ZshNr)

107

I like the poll.

Hey Kossack! Come out to pla-a-a-ay!!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 11, 2013 11:58 AM (sQ0LB)

108 See, all is well with the Dems, wingers! We'll have full-blown American NHS in 10-12 years, baby!

Posted by: The Daily KKKos at October 11, 2013 11:58 AM (X866z)

109 My takeaway, and yes this is equine necrosadism, is that conservatives would win big, if they ran as something other than Republicans. This is my unspoken second reason for a replacement for the GOP--its brand is simply damaged beyond repair, and a new one must be forged.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 11, 2013 11:58 AM (naUcP)

110 Compare that to the GOP which couldn't for a cohesive message to describe what color the sky is.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 11, 2013 03:53 PM (HDgX3)

And, as far as I can tell, are actively discouraged by the likes of Rove, Boner, and Bitch from actually speaking out on such topics in terms that might catch the attention of even the LIV if they were repeated often enough!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 11, 2013 11:59 AM (XdnQT)

111 But Democrats always have a cohesive message. Nobody ever goes off that message. Disagree. They blow it ALL THE TIME. It's the media that stitches things back together.

Posted by: t-bird at October 11, 2013 11:59 AM (FcR7P)

112 My congressman made Andrea Mitchell like the hack she is this week, so we'll keep him around.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 11, 2013 11:59 AM (KjlbF)

113 62 >> Why has the deficit come down from over one trillion? Sequester? Can't be that much, could it?

The sequester helped some, as did new 404Care taxes (payouts start next year), new capital gain and top income taxes, plus a smallish recovery in the economy (especially oil and gas production). But have no fear -- the deficit is expected to jump right back to a trillion for 2014 or 2015, I forget which.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 11, 2013 11:59 AM (cHZB7)

114 Can't. Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 03:53 PM (GQ8sn) Are you implying giving the Horde pictures of baaaaaby lambs isn't worth losing your job over? Unpossible!
Seriously, though, who signed for it and do they have the slightest inkling what they did with it? Go from there. Old firm once had someone misplace a FedEx package. A FedEx package with a check with several zeros on it. The client was coming in for their settlement proceeds and we had to, as in absolutely had to, overnight out a check to their mortgage company to keep them from getting thrown out of their house two days later. All hell breaks loose. Bosses are screaming at the receptionist and person who handles mail, paralegals are screaming at each other, I'm trying to stay out of everyone's eyesight, utter chaos. The office manager finally sat the receptionist down and very calmly took her through what did you do after you signed for it? We finally found it thrown out in the bathroom. She'd put it on her desk, the newspaper got put on top of it, one of the lawyers snagged the paper on the way to the bathroom and didn't realize he'd grabbed that too and it must have slipped out to the floor and he didn't notice, next person in the bathroom didn't realize that the envelope hadn't been opened and threw it out trying to clean up, paper towels got tossed on top of it and voila. I think the server's a little big for that though.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 11, 2013 12:00 PM (VtjlW)

115 And, as far as I can tell, are actively discouraged by the likes of Rove, Boner, and Bitch from actually speaking out on such topics in terms that might catch the attention of even the LIV if they were repeated often enough! Posted by: Hrothgar at October 11, 2013 03:59 PM (XdnQT) ___________________ Rove has to be working for the Dems. There is no other explanation.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 11, 2013 12:00 PM (HDgX3)

116
Horde, I need a Dell Power Edge server right NOW! Please help me!

Posted by: EC

Who signed for it?

Look up the sig on line.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 11, 2013 12:00 PM (jo069)

117 Why is the deficit only $700B instead of over $1T? Did we seriously cut that much during the sequester???

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 12:00 PM (GQ8sn)

118 >96 I might go coble an empty server case together from spare parts and duct tape.

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 03:54 PM (GQ8sn)<

Yeah, you only need to fool her for like 30 seconds, right?

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 11, 2013 12:00 PM (KjlbF)

119 #95
Picture or it didn't happen.

Posted by: looking closely at October 11, 2013 12:01 PM (PwGfd)

120 Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 11, 2013 03:58 PM (naUcP)

Good point:

My word association game is

Republican = NE RINO Ruling Class

GOP = McCain, Graham, Cornyn, McConnell

Conservative = Ted Cruz, Trey Gowdy

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 11, 2013 12:01 PM (XdnQT)

121 Why has the deficit come down from over one trillion? Sequester? Can't be that much, could it? __________ Stock market has a lot to do with. Capital gains taxes have soared this year as the market bubble grew.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 11, 2013 12:02 PM (HDgX3)

122 I love this post, wish I'd seen it before it got bumped.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at October 11, 2013 12:02 PM (epxV4)

123 Seriously, though, who signed for it and do they have the slightest inkling what they did with it? Go from there.

The admin signed for it. All the packages are dumped by her desk and then she calls whoever up to collect their shit.

BTW, the admin is cougar-ific.

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 12:02 PM (GQ8sn)

124 Yeah, you only need to fool her for like 30 seconds, right?

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 11, 2013 04:00 PM (KjlbF)

23 seconds.

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 12:02 PM (GQ8sn)

125 Disagree. They blow it ALL THE TIME. It's the media that stitches things back together. Posted by: t-bird at October 11, 2013 03:59 PM (FcR7P) _________ No way. Every Dem has the same 2 or 3 talking points and repeat them until blue in the face.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 11, 2013 12:03 PM (HDgX3)

126 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 11, 2013 04:00 PM (HDgX3)

Rove would take consulting fees from Lucifer, Alinsky, or Obama if the price was right!.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 11, 2013 12:03 PM (XdnQT)

127 Stock market has a lot to do with. Capital gains taxes have soared this year as the market bubble grew.

That's a lot of cap gain taxes.

How much was sequester again? $85 billion???

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 12:04 PM (GQ8sn)

128 The admin signed for it. All the packages are dumped by her desk and then she calls whoever up to collect their shit.

BTW, the admin is cougar-ific.

Posted by: EC

Ok, then take her into the supply closet and pump her for information.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 11, 2013 12:05 PM (jo069)

129 Mr. Moo Moo, the majority wants Santa Claus government. And no matter how old they get, and no matter how much we try to tell them that he doesn't exist, let alone try to tell them that all those goodies aren't free, they still believe. And vote accordingly. There is no way we can win with the message that there is no Santa Claus. Sucks but there it is. They absolutely KNOW that there is a Santa because they are constantly getting free shit. And the people they vote for campaign on the fact that they will get free shit. Boned....yes we are.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at October 11, 2013 12:05 PM (1M/xn)

130 Ok, then take her into the supply closet and pump her for information.

In my mind...

Posted by: EC at October 11, 2013 12:06 PM (GQ8sn)

131 Rove would take consulting fees from Lucifer, Alinsky, or Obama if the price was right! Hey now, I have standards.

Posted by: Lucifer at October 11, 2013 12:06 PM (naUcP)

132 Posted by: Lucifer at October 11, 2013 04:06 PM (naUcP)

Well, maybe not from you directly, but...

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 11, 2013 12:11 PM (XdnQT)

133 Want Liberty? Sisu. The Finnish concept of sisu is a term that lacks an exact synonym in any other language, but can be described as guts, determination, and the capacity to endure any hardship. http://tinyurl.com/l82mws7 The Winter War Soviets Invade Finland Nov. 30, 1939. Soviets invaded Finland with more than 3X what the Allied Forces had at D-Day Normandy. Against all odds, with no supplies, armed with knives, the few Finnish people held off the Soviet Military hoards, Nov-March, harshest winter conditions. It was so cold, whatever position your body was in when hit by bullet, sliced by knife, there it stood frozen in time.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 11, 2013 12:19 PM (MhA4j)

134

UFO's? Did you say 30% of us believe?

http://tinyurl.com/k4gs299

Posted by: i like anchors and!the!truth! at October 11, 2013 12:40 PM (nBE5A)

135

dammit

how did i fuck that up?

UFO'S? Let me google that for you:

http://tinyurl.com/lsfs58f

Posted by: i like anchors and!the!truth! at October 11, 2013 12:42 PM (nBE5A)

136 I love how, in media narratives, the low approval rating of Congress shows that Congress must do what Democrats want RIGHT NOW, even though it's almost always Republican voters who are rating them low and the Democrat voters that are out to lunch.

Posted by: Berlin at October 11, 2013 01:14 PM (ashPd)

137

Even with the sucky economy, tax revenues are projected to give us a 700 Billion or 0.7 Trillion Deficit. (last I looked)

That's a bullshit number.

We're still running a deficit well north of a trillion dollars when QE is factored in. The Federal Reserve has effectively become the largest off balance sheet entity in history. They purchased $400 billion in U.S. Treasuries via their primary dealer network in FY2012. This is not counted as debt per se, but it is debt. Those Treasuries represent an obligation that will need to be repaid with interest by future taxpayers.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at October 11, 2013 03:01 PM (ZETiK)

138

"They purchased $400 billion in U.S. Treasuries via their primary dealer network in FY2012"

Scratch that. The Fed purchased $400 billion in U.S. Treasuries via their primary dealer network in FY2013.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at October 11, 2013 03:06 PM (ZETiK)

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