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December 17, 2013

White House Delayed Avalanche of New Regulations Until After 2012, For "Clearly Political" Purposes
— Ace

Heritage noted, in 2012, that the Administration's rush to regulate slowed down in that election year:

Last fall, Heritage Foundation analysts noted an eerie silence coming from Obama regulatory agencies. The production of new rules, which until then had been in overdrive, slipped into a lower gear. And the regulatory agenda, which the Administration was required by law to release every spring and fall, did not appear. Noting the odd silence, Heritage research fellow Diane Katz speculated that the rules were being deliberately delayed until after the election year.
Obama officials scoffed at such speculation.

But a Washington Post report published over the weekend now indicates that's precisely what happened.

The White House systematically delayed enacting a series of rules on the environment, worker safety and health care to prevent them from becoming points of contention before the 2012 election, according to documents and interviews with current and former administration officials.
Some agency officials were instructed to hold off submitting proposals to the White House for up to a year to ensure that they would not be issued before voters went to the polls, the current and former officials said....
The Obama administration has repeatedly said that any delays until after the election were coincidental and that such decisions were made without regard to politics. But seven current and former administration officials told The Washington Post that the motives behind many of the delays were clearly political, as ObamaÂ’s top aides focused on avoiding controversy before his reelection.
The number and scope of delays under Obama went well beyond those of his predecessors, who helped shape rules but did not have the same formalized controls, said current and former officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic.

The report was prepared by the Administrative Conference of the United States (ACUS), an "independent agency that advises the federal government on regulatory issues." They interviewed more than a dozen "senior agency officials" at the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA), which "oversees the implementation of federal rules."

OIRA officials -- political appointees -- put the brakes on the rush to regulate:

The officials interviewed for the ACUS report, whose names were withheld from publication by the study authors, said that starting in 2012 they had to meet with an OIRA desk officer before submitting each significant rule for formal review. They called the sessions Â“Mother-may-IÂ” meetings, according to the study.
The accounts were echoed by four Obama administration political appointees and three career officials interviewed by The Post.
At the Environmental Protection Agency, for example, a former official said that only two managers had the authority to request a major rule in 2012: then-administrator Lisa P. Jackson and deputy administrator Bob Perciasepe. Perciasepe and OIRAÂ’s director at the time, Cass Sunstein, would have Â“weekly and sometimes semi-weekly discussionsÂ” to discuss rules that affected the economy, one said, because they had political consequences, the person said.
Â“As we entered the run-up to the election, the word went out the White House was not anxious to review new rules,Â” the former official said.
Sunstein, who has returned to his post as a Harvard Law School professor, declined to comment.

The Administration delayed defining what constituted an Obamacare-compliant "essential benefits plan" in order to avoid "controversy." Thus avoiding an earlier discussion about the "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan" lie, or, as the leftist media calls it, the "wrong promise that Obama inadvertently made in order to offer a pithy slogan to the public in response to Republican lies about Obamacare."

Other delayed regulations include environmental-protection rules, which we are now, of course, are told are essential, and must not be delayed a moment longer, lest the birds and the children should perish.

Posted by: Ace at 11:34 AM | Comments (167)
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1 To say nothing of the waiver process.

Posted by: garrett at December 17, 2013 11:37 AM (TXAd5)

2 Duh, Obamacare itself was delayed until after the election. If it was totes necessary because as Sebelius said 'Cancer doesn't wait' then why 3 fucking years of delay??? Cuz Election

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at December 17, 2013 11:37 AM (9Bdcz)

3 I'm Shocked, shocked that gambling is going on in this establishment!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 17, 2013 11:38 AM (t3UFN)

4 Of course they did. Everything the lying choom king does is for political purposes except play golf and go on vacation while his staff does all the "heavy lifting" for political purposes.

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 11:38 AM (T2V/1)

5 The most transparently dishonest administration in history!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 17, 2013 11:38 AM (qyfb5)

6 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 11:39 AM (PYAXX)

7 A bunch of Chicago political hacks would do this? Next thing you'll say is that Illinois governors finish their terms in jail

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 17, 2013 11:40 AM (1Jaio)

8 Other delayed regulations include environmental-protection rules, which we are now, of course, are told are essential, and must not be delayed a moment longer, lest the birds and the children should perish. Promises, promises. I'm out of profanity about all of this. We are living in a monarchy. At least the Brits get Corgis and Queen Kickass and Kate. Obligatory Queen firing a machine gun pic: http://bit.ly/1kSNbiK

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 11:40 AM (VtjlW)

9 Shorter version: Lyinig liar directs his lying underlings to lie so that he might lie with authority for 4 more years. And still anyone supports the SCOAMT?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at December 17, 2013 11:40 AM (SPNg5)

10 "required by law to release every spring and fall, did not appear." Just laws.

Posted by: NoBroccoli4U at December 17, 2013 11:40 AM (3p7iG)

11 Oh, yes, the "incorrect promise" of President "Oh, my, what a thrill to meet you!" The MFM could have looked at this, but it was obviously a political issue created by Republicans to distract from the hard-hitting in-depth coverage of what Mitt Romney may have done 30 years ago. How were they to know that this was really an issue?

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 17, 2013 11:41 AM (+/C3g)

12 7 A bunch of Chicago political hacks would do this? Next thing you'll say is that Illinois governors finish their terms in jail --- Now that is just wrong. Illinois has has PLENTY of governors and only SOME of them have been imprisoned before their terms ended!

Posted by: Typical Fucking Chicago Moonbat at December 17, 2013 11:41 AM (/Crba)

13 http://preview.tinyurl.com/o5uzs65
Yeah, he'll be staying in D.C. to save the expenses of commuting to his trial.

Posted by: Ein Biobauer, der weiß at December 17, 2013 11:42 AM (1/4XQ)

Yay another thread !!

whatever the hell its about YAY

Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at December 17, 2013 11:42 AM (3ZtZW)

15 [Shrugs] These guys make old-time Boston ward-heelers look incorruptible by comparison.

Posted by: joncelli at December 17, 2013 11:42 AM (RD7QR)

16 *sigh* "He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them." "He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 11:43 AM (PYAXX)

17 FLAMING SKULL!

The idiots in our State Department have arrested and strip searched India's Envoy in NY sparking mass outrage. India is removing the concrete barriers in front of our embassy so standby for some stuff.

Supposedly she falsified the papers of a servant. So we had to strip search her????

http://tinyurl.com/ln3mrlv

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 11:43 AM (T2V/1)

18 Barack Obama is, get this, a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

FIFY

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 17, 2013 11:43 AM (V70Uh)

19 Shocked, shocked etc.

Posted by: your winnings, sir at December 17, 2013 11:43 AM (evdj2)

This is the same regime that didn't do anything illegal to interfere with the 2012 election results.

Cough, cough

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 17, 2013 11:44 AM (O3C36)

21 I can't understand for the life of me why giving all your banking and personal info to the government on a dysfunctional website to pay more for something you already had but was taken away from you would be considered "controversial".

Posted by: Ezekial Emanuel at December 17, 2013 11:44 AM (wAQA5)

22 I'd call Jugears a caudillo except that he wouldn't be caught dead in a suit with epaulettes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 17, 2013 11:44 AM (8ZskC)

23 Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 03:43 PM (T2V/1) And against the backdrop of Obama giving a Legal pass to Illegal immigrants here in this country...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 17, 2013 11:44 AM (lZBBB)

24 Supposedly she falsified the papers of a servant. So we had to strip search her???? Is she hot?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2013 11:44 AM (qc7at)

25 So when will the Obama minions at the EPA issue a ban on windmills? Those things are BIRD GRINDERS!! The number of birds & bats killed by windmills is astonishing. But of course windmills are subsidized by Obama - courtesy of the US taxpayer - for the benefit of his donors & bundlers so who cares if a few million birds die?

Posted by: whyme at December 17, 2013 11:45 AM (l9mF2)

26 The idiots in our State Department have arrested and strip searched India's Envoy in NY sparking mass outrage. India is removing the concrete barriers in front of our embassy so standby for some stuff. Supposedly she falsified the papers of a servant. So we had to strip search her???? http://tinyurl.com/ln3mrlv Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 03:43 PM (T2V/1) If that's about who I think it is, she didn't just falsify some papers. She falsified some papers to hide the fact that she was keeping that woman as a slave. Which isn't to say she should be stripped searched but it's not just oh I screwed up the paperwork.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 11:45 AM (VtjlW)

27 Perhaps the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi will be attacked. That would be and outrage and a shame.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 17, 2013 11:45 AM (V70Uh)

28 13 http://preview.tinyurl.com/o5uzs65
Yeah, he'll be staying in D.C. to save the expenses of commuting to his ~~trial~~ job at the NAACP.

Posted by: Ein Biobauer, der weiÃŸ at December 17, 2013 03:42 PM (1/4XQ)

FIFY

Posted by: joncelli at December 17, 2013 11:45 AM (RD7QR)

29 Of course they did. Everything the lying choom king does is for political purposes except play golf and go on vacation while his staff does all the "heavy lifting" for political purposes.

I'll bet when the books come out after 2016, it will be revealed that teh zipster was conducting secret meetings and conversations that he didn't want to have to explain.

Posted by: boned to the bone at December 17, 2013 11:45 AM (Ph479)

30 I thought Cass Sunstein was the one who choked on a sandwich.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 17, 2013 11:45 AM (8ZskC)

And yes, the regulatory state, which its own rules, courts, and legal system, is the single most tyrannical aspect of the modern U.S. Government. One of the scariest aspects of Obamacare is that it left 90% of the law to the discretion of unaccountable, unelected, power-hungry cronies (not just Sebellius, but also IRS officials).

If only there was a mechanism by which information such as the state of modern regulations could be transmitted to the general public.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 17, 2013 11:45 AM (+/C3g)

32 I don't want to ever hear another g_ddamned word from a g_ddamned liberal, ever, about how corrupt and power hungry Nixon/Reagan/Bush/insert Republican POTUS here was.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 17, 2013 11:45 AM (wtvvX)

33 Headline should read (and actually, this is probably how it should read for 80% of the HQ posts):

Obama, get this, lied. Again.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 17, 2013 11:45 AM (fwARV)

Gambling is illegal at Bushwood, sir. And I never slice!

Posted by: The Honorable Judge Smails at December 17, 2013 11:46 AM (xvtYZ)

35 Those dot Indian still love themselves some slavery.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 17, 2013 11:46 AM (V70Uh)

36 Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 03:43 PM (T2V/1) And meanwhile.... Off the coast of China, the USS Cowpens and ChiComs Carrier Battle Group, play Cold War games, almost getting into a collision...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 17, 2013 11:46 AM (lZBBB)

37 The report was prepared by the Administrative Conference of the United States (ACUS), an "independent agency that advises the federal government on regulatory issues." They interviewed more than a dozen "senior agency officials" at the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA), which "oversees the implementation of federal rules."

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They needed an agency and interviews and reports to find this out? They could have just asked the horde and saved a ton of money.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 11:46 AM (P6QsQ)

38 Obama stretched out his hand and in a stentorian voice of supreme command, those melodious baritones, those inspiring words, that heart wrenching empathy, waved his hand and said, "Let no one live without health care". Women fainted, men cried as Obama's loyal followers went out into every corner of the land searching out the poor and the sick, the lame, and the indifferent who had no health care for Obama had said, "Let no one live. . ." And when they found those without healthcare, Obama's armies killed them.

Posted by: Permanent Cookies at December 17, 2013 11:46 AM (UarC0)

39 Now that is just wrong. Illinois has has PLENTY of governors and only SOME of them have been imprisoned before their terms ended!

Posted by: Typical Fucking Chicago Moonbat at December 17, 2013 03:41 PM (/Crba)

True, some aren't indicted until after they leave office.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 17, 2013 11:46 AM (+/C3g)

40 We've awaken in The Village.

Posted by: The Prisoner at December 17, 2013 11:46 AM (R6JT1)

>>>The idiots in our State Department have arrested and strip searched India's Envoy in NY sparking mass outrage. India is removing the concrete barriers in front of our embassy so standby for some stuff.

India, as in the govt, is removing the barriers to our embassy in India? Or do you mean something else?

Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at December 17, 2013 11:46 AM (3ZtZW)

42 No we had to strip search her because she's HOT.

Posted by: Eton Cox at December 17, 2013 11:46 AM (q177U)

43 Love the irony. She wants rights for herself, but not for her ~~slave~~ servant.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 17, 2013 11:46 AM (V70Uh)

44 Who is number one?

Posted by: Eton Cox at December 17, 2013 11:47 AM (q177U)

45 India, as in the govt, is removing the barriers to our embassy in India? Yes. Which is, as the VP might say, a Big F'n Deal.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 11:48 AM (PYAXX)

It's the flip side of this morning's thread about whether GOPsters should run on GOP principles.

If the new regulations are good and are expected to help people, they shouldn't be afraid of announcing them. If they expect pushback from people who feel scared and bullied by the new regs, maybe they should think twice about enacting them.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at December 17, 2013 11:48 AM (A0sHn)

47 27 Supposedly she falsified the papers of a servant. So we had to strip search her???? Maybe she stuffed the real papers up her twat? I'm giving this one the 24-hour rule. If she did what they said she did, good for law enforcement for enforcing the law. Fuck this diplomatic immunity bullshit. And I'm willing to bet the "strip search" consisted of her having to disrobe and put on jail clothing just like everybody else.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 17, 2013 11:48 AM (7ObY1)

48 Why shore, with their record of truth, honesty, and transparent government there is not doubt they are telling the truth.

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2013 11:48 AM (xWW96)

49 Well, duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh!

Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at December 17, 2013 11:48 AM (ruxvM)

50 Love the irony. She wants rights for herself, but not for her slave servant. "Ironic" or not, it was a great big no-no. Especially the whole strip-searching part.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 11:49 AM (PYAXX)

51 You are Number 6.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 17, 2013 11:49 AM (wtvvX)

52 Off the coast of China, the USS Cowpens and ChiComs Carrier Battle Group, play Cold War games, almost getting into a collision... --- Speaking of the Cowpens, does anyone have any good Holly Rowe stories to tell? The ones I've heard so far make Captain Queeg sound sane.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 11:49 AM (/Crba)

53 It was an effective tactic. There will be no punishment. Regulations since the election have already slipped into overdrive. Liars lie because lying works.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 17, 2013 11:49 AM (ZPrif)

54 "He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 03:43 PM (PYAXX)

Seems to me that this is another line that bears constant repetition.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 17, 2013 11:50 AM (o3MSL)

55 Who cares about abuses of power? We need to deal with amnesty immediately!

Posted by: Paul Ryan at December 17, 2013 11:50 AM (tVKXk)

56 If only we had recognized the human hamster ball for what it really is, we could have changed course.

Posted by: The Prisoner at December 17, 2013 11:50 AM (R6JT1)

57 If the new regulations are good and are expected to help people, they shouldn't be afraid of announcing them. If they expect pushback from people who feel scared and bullied by the new regs, maybe they should think twice about enacting them. You forget- the default Liberal position is that people are too stupid to know what's good for them. So it is precisely the fact that "the proles" will hate them that makes the regs so necessary.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 11:50 AM (PYAXX)

>>>The bag is half empty now.

and your keys are yellow

Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at December 17, 2013 11:50 AM (3ZtZW)

59 This is why there is such a thing as diplomatic immunity. Doesn't matter if it's fair, this is how the world plays the game.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 17, 2013 11:51 AM (i2Lsf)

60 @17 This!
And, if you wonder at the silence, inaction, and glandlessness of the "opposition" Republicans, take a gander at this long view.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/oyl6hfx
Let's get real. There is the loser/Rove/Big Government wing of the party, and there is the winner/Reagan/limited government wing of the party.
There are people who love Government. And there are people who love Liberty.

Posted by: Ein Biobauer, der weiß at December 17, 2013 11:51 AM (1/4XQ)

61 eat out their substance." --- That sounds like verbage from a bad Slash fic.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 11:51 AM (/Crba)

62 Bam! Pete Kaliner on WWNC broadcast credits and quotes Ace of Spades HQ and Gabe. I'll post a link for the audio as soon as it is available. His observations were great!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 17, 2013 11:51 AM (aDwsi)

63 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 03:48 PM (PYAXX) Isn't protection of the area around the embassy a treaty agreement?! If more americans knew about Benghazi (and more congresswomen apparently) they'd recognize this for the obvious threat it is.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 17, 2013 11:52 AM (GaqMa)

64 The bag is half empty now. and your keys are yellow Is that what we're calling it now? Keys?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2013 11:52 AM (qc7at)

65 67 Bam! Pete Kaliner on WWNC broadcast credits and quotes Ace of Spades HQ and Gabe. I'll post a link for the audio as soon as it is available. His observations were great! --- I have to wonder what exact verbage was excerpted from the site if it was from the comments, as opposed to the articles. AOSHQ - "I read it for the articles, I swear!"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 11:53 AM (/Crba)

66 45 India, as in the govt, is removing the barriers to our embassy in India? Or do you mean something else?

Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at December 17, 2013 03:46 PM (3ZtZW)

They are removing the barriers at the US Embassy in New Delhi.

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 11:54 AM (T2V/1)

67 ORANGE ALERT!
ORANGE ALERT!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 17, 2013 11:54 AM (wtvvX)

Of course they delayed regulations to get past the 2012 elections - just look ta what they did with ObamaCare's mandates.

Now, since they have delayed things because of politics once, is it possible that the pressure will build up to delay again because of politics, i.e. the 2014 elections?

I wouldn't put it past this crerw, but it would be funny, wouldn't it, if they did, and kept delaying because, hey - elections are coming up?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 17, 2013 11:54 AM (hLRSq)

>>Is that what we're calling it now? Keys?

Dude. Fapping is akin to those cultures what have specific hands to eat with and wipe with. Everybody knows that.

Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at December 17, 2013 11:54 AM (3ZtZW)

70 Isn't protection of the area around the embassy a treaty agreement?! It's certainly a convention, if not a written part of the agreement. Yeah- it's a big deal. India is saying, "You're on your own, we're not protecting your delegation." I don't care what she did- she had diplomatic immunity. There are ways to work around that, and it doesn't seem like the cops used any of them.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 11:54 AM (PYAXX)

71 Some of the glitter bomb activist types got arrested for staging a "terrorism hoax". In Oklahoma City. Where doing that can get you 10 years in prison. 10 years seems harsh, but there needs to be real penalties to these leftist glitter bomb and liquid and pie attacks. There's no way to know what's in the substance they throw on people. The intent of the leftist is to intimidate and put the fear of a possible real attack into the minds of the target. It's a terrorizing type of attack.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 17, 2013 11:55 AM (ZPrif)

72 I'll bet when the books come out after 2016, it will be revealed that teh zipster was conducting secret meetings and conversations that he didn't want to have to explain.

Hell, in the few months alone we've found out he's been conducting secret meetings with Iran, the Palestinian Authority, the Taliban, and Cuba. What could be left?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 17, 2013 11:56 AM (B/VB5)

73 They are removing the barriers at the US Embassy in New Delhi. Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 03:54 PM (T2V/1) Which is a big f'n deal. I apologize if I came across as ignoring that part of it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 11:56 AM (VtjlW)

74 That's what I call timely, unbiased reporting!

Posted by: The WaPo Ombudsman at December 17, 2013 11:57 AM (FcR7P)

75 I don't care what she did- she had diplomatic immunity. There are ways to work around that, and it doesn't seem like the cops used any of them. Respekt mah authoritah!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2013 11:57 AM (qc7at)

76 and when the last shoe drops. . .?

Posted by: NCwoof at December 17, 2013 11:58 AM (aUQgu)

77 I don't think they can charge her with slavery:

Prosecutors in New York say Khobragade, 39, claimed she paid her Indian maid $4,500 per month but actually paid her less than the U.S. minimum wage. In order for diplomats and consular officers to get a visa for their personal employees, known as an A-3 visa, they must show proof that the applicant will receive a fair wage, comparable to employment in the U.S., U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a statement last week.

They also say she did not have "diplomatic immunity". She had "consular immunity" which is different.

But be that as it may, strip searching her was STUPID.

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 11:59 AM (T2V/1)

78 I nominate that sorority chick to come in and cunt-punt the whole fucking lot of Obama and his staff and his czars and his cabinet. And the suckers-of-cock media while she's at it, since her cunt-punting foot will be all warmed up and stuff. And if Moochelle tries to cock-block, cunt-punt her too.

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 17, 2013 11:59 AM (2iHnw)

79 There's no way to know what's in the substance they throw on people. The intent of the leftist is to intimidate and put the fear of a possible real attack into the minds of the target. It's a terrorizing type of attack. --- My recommendation is that speakers take a page out of the book of then-Senator Andrew Johnson of Tennessee... Do your speech with a pistol sitting on the lectern.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 11:59 AM (/Crba)

80 and when the last shoe drops. . .? Let the bodies hit the floor?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2013 11:59 AM (qc7at)

81
I checked the dot head's taco, and it was warm and tidy. She didn't conceal any objects, and it smelled like jasmine.

Posted by: Guard Wanda the Wanker at December 17, 2013 11:59 AM (pJF+c)

India is removing the concrete barriers in front of our embassy so standby for some stuff.

Oh shit. Now who am I gonna get for tech support at Healthcare.gov?

Posted by: Kurt DelBene at December 17, 2013 11:59 AM (wAQA5)

83 56 You are Number 6. I am not a number. I am an 834 transaction.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 17, 2013 11:59 AM (Ob/LA)

84 Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2013 03:57 PM (qc7at) Let's say she was accused of Rape and Murder- do you really want her escaping justice because her "civil rights" were violated? This is the same thing. If you really want to nail her to the wall, you do it according to the rules. NOT doing it according to the rules could get a whole lot of people killed.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 11:59 AM (PYAXX)

85 They are also doing a lot of other bad stuff with our staff in India.

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 11:59 AM (T2V/1)

86 From teh NYT: "Some leading Indian politicians have called for much more extensive retaliation for the arrest of Ms. Khobragade. Yashwant Sinha, IndiaÂ’s former finance minister and a leader of the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party, said that some openly gay American diplomats are posted to India, where homosexuality is illegal. Â“So why doesnÂ’t the government of India go ahead and arrest all of them?Â” he said. "

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at December 17, 2013 12:00 PM (A0sHn)

87 The rape-rape gang is starting to congregate around our Embassy in India.

Posted by: Roy at December 17, 2013 12:00 PM (VndSC)

88
Obligatory Queen firing a machine gun pic: http://bit.ly/1kSNbiK

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 03:40 PM (VtjlW)

Queen Liz has been shootin' for a LONG time.

http://tinyurl.com/lfmcnnw

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 17, 2013 12:01 PM (TIIx5)

89 91 From teh NYT: "Some leading Indian politicians have called for much more extensive retaliation for the arrest of Ms. Khobragade. Yashwant Sinha, IndiaÃ¯Â¿Â½s former finance minister and a leader of the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party, said that some openly gay American diplomats are posted to India, where homosexuality is illegal. Ã¯Â¿Â½So why doesnÃ¯Â¿Â½t the government of India go ahead and arrest all of them?Ã¯Â¿Â½ he said. " --- Talk about the "Suck my dick!" presidency... He keeps doing stupid shit like that as a FU to the host country.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 12:01 PM (/Crba)

90 Oh shit. Now who am I gonna get for tech support at Healthcare.gov?

Posted by: Kurt DelBene at December 17, 2013 03:59 PM (wAQA5)

OK, I laughed. I denounce myself, but I laugh.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 17, 2013 12:02 PM (+/C3g)

91 82 I don't think they can charge her with slavery: No, but they can introduce the maid to reps from SEIU. Or Eddie Murphy's wife Oomfufu.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 17, 2013 12:02 PM (i2Lsf)

92 The idea behind all the excessive regulation is to make sure everyone is guilty of something, intentional or not, so that they can at any moment become the object of someone's undivided attention, if nothing else then to encourage the others.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 17, 2013 12:02 PM (yh0zB)

93 Talk about the "Suck my dick!" presidency... He keeps doing stupid shit like that as a FU to the host country.

He just wants to spread the warmth of his love with Reggie to all of the nations. Or something.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 17, 2013 12:03 PM (B/VB5)

94 96 82 I don't think they can charge her with slavery: No, but they can introduce the maid to reps from SEIU. Or Eddie Murphy's wife Oomfufu. --- When do we get to see that picture of him on the front of the Black Enquirer?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 12:03 PM (/Crba)

95 They also say she did not have "diplomatic immunity". She had "consular immunity" which is different. Ah. An important difference, too. So the arrest was legit (probably). Still, you are expected to treat diplomatic personnel with kid gloves- because you expect the same treatment for our own diplomatic personnel. And before you say pfui to that, let me point to the Italian government re-trying Amanda Knox- just 'cause.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 12:03 PM (PYAXX)

96 I was wondering when the POS in the white house was going to get around to pissing off the last few allies we had left in the world.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 17, 2013 12:03 PM (O3C36)

97 This is the same thing. If you really want to nail her to the wall, you do it according to the rules. NOT doing it according to the rules could get a whole lot of people killed. Posted by: AllenG I agree. And if you (the po po) don't like the rules, change them. Don't just arbitrairily change them in mid stream.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2013 12:04 PM (qc7at)

98 And before you say pfui to that, let me point to the Italian government re-trying Amanda Knox- just 'cause. --- Talk about a kangaroo court of a legal system right there. The phony legal system in the movie Midnight Express makes more sense than the real Italian one.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 12:04 PM (/Crba)

99 87 and who will be left to answer my tech support questions in a language I can barely understand

Posted by: NCwoof at December 17, 2013 12:04 PM (aUQgu)

100 Vacation Time!

Posted by: BHO [/i] [/b] at December 17, 2013 12:05 PM (5ikDv)

101 Obligatory Queen firing a machine gun pic: Queen Liz has been shootin' for a LONG time. Plus she's ambidextrous? Impressive!

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 17, 2013 12:05 PM (i2Lsf)

102 So, everybody does it.

Why, look, here's an EPA regulation that the Radical Radicals Environmental Defense Army had alleged Bush delayed for political reasons in 2007.

/s/

Media, showing balance and even-handedness

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 17, 2013 12:05 PM (VjL9S)

103 In the old days, when a diplomat breaks a local law the State Dept. names them "Persona non Grata" and then they are ordered to leave within 48 or 72 hours. In this case, since her bags were still packed they could have put her, and her slave onto the next flight home.

But no. Our State Dept. is run by folks who watched the movie but never read the book. Treaty of Westfalia? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Jimbo at December 17, 2013 12:05 PM (V70Uh)

104 Talk about a kangaroo court of a legal system right there. Isn't it the French who have (or had) Presumed Guilty until Proven Innocent? Yikes.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 12:05 PM (PYAXX)

105 102 Rules? What rules?

Posted by: NCwoof at December 17, 2013 12:05 PM (aUQgu)

106 104 87 and who will be left to answer my tech support questions in a language I can barely understand --- As I understand it, Puerto Rico's in serious trouble these days and is not subject to the US minimum wage. Neither is Samoa or the Northern Marianas.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 12:05 PM (/Crba)

107

India, as in the govt, is removing the barriers to our embassy in India?

Yes.

Which is, as the VP might say, a Big F'n Deal.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 03:48 PM (PYAXX)

-------------------------------------------------

It's all okay. I've consulted with Hillary Clinton and can assure everyone that our embassy security is tip top.

Posted by: John F'n Kerry at December 17, 2013 12:06 PM (r/Zvc)

108 I am doing a survey for my jet purchase tomorrow after I win the Mega Millions. http://tinyurl.com/nwou9ka

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 12:08 PM (0FSuD)

109 >>I'll bet when the books come out after 2016, it will be revealed that
teh zipster was conducting secret meetings and conversations that he
didn't want to have to explain.

Yeah, because his daily published usually looks something like this:

10:00 Presidential Daily Briefing
12:00 Lunch with Biden
4:45 Meets with some national org, makes a speech, hosts winning athletes, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2013 12:08 PM (ruxvM)

110 111 Thank goodness the Norks are not on that list.....oh, wait

Posted by: NCwoof at December 17, 2013 12:08 PM (aUQgu)

111 109 Talk about a kangaroo court of a legal system right there. Isn't it the French who have (or had) Presumed Guilty until Proven Innocent? Yikes. --- J'accuse!

Posted by: Zombie Emile Zola at December 17, 2013 12:08 PM (/Crba)

112 The Mexicans too. You have to rely on the honesty of the Judge.

Posted by: Jimbo at December 17, 2013 12:09 PM (V70Uh)

113 Schadenboner from Drudge: 45 states have e.rolled less than 10% of their Obama Are goals.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 17, 2013 12:10 PM (E+uky)

114 113 Easy. Ask Ed Schultz

Posted by: NCwoof at December 17, 2013 12:10 PM (aUQgu)

115 The Mexicans too. You have to rely on the honesty of the Judge. I just want to repeat that, so that everyone can bask in the terror that statement should cause any accused criminal in Mexico.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 12:10 PM (PYAXX)

116 Meanwhile.... Obama gets ready to leave on his 4 million dollar vacation.

Posted by: Hawkette at December 17, 2013 12:10 PM (i7KmQ)

117 Do they strip search everyone before they go in a cell?

Posted by: irright at December 17, 2013 12:10 PM (pMGkg)

118 I've settled on this, for my quick trips to Bangkok, to visit my "sister". http://tinyurl.com/9mres4

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 12:11 PM (0FSuD)

119 120 The Mexicans too. You have to rely on the honesty of the Judge. I just want to repeat that, so that everyone can bask in the terror that statement should cause any accused criminal in Mexico. --- I think the movie Traffic was the one that put it best... "Law enforcement in Mexico is seen as an entrepreneurial enterprise."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 12:11 PM (/Crba)

120 >>Meanwhile.... Obama gets ready to leave on his 4 million dollar vacation.

Obama: "I will not rest until - oh, the plane's packed and ready to go? Never mind."

Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2013 12:11 PM (ruxvM)

121 82

They also say she did not have "diplomatic immunity". She had "consular immunity" which is different.

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 03:59 PM (T2V/1)

Either way, it's just been revoked.

Posted by: Roger Murtaugh, wearing rubber gloves and holding a speculum at December 17, 2013 12:12 PM (e4elg)

122 Barry the Honest: Any questioning of my political motives is clearly RACIST!!! Just ask super genius Orca

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 17, 2013 12:12 PM (1Jaio)

123 I've settled on this, for my quick trips to Bangkok, to visit my "sister". So many euphamisms, so little time....

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2013 12:13 PM (qc7at)

124 Filing false papers by a diplomat is a case for expulsion and not arrest.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2013 12:14 PM (m2CN7)

125 Amanda Knox got fucking railroaded, and she should be able to sue for the four prime years of her life she lost. I studied this case extensively, and there wasn't a damn shred of evidence against her other than her own DNA being found in her own home. Know who did have evidence against him? The guy who did it, confessed to it and is in jail for it. And all because Amanda initially lied to the polizia because she had been smoking hash with her Italian boyfriend the night of the murder, and didn't want to get the both of them expelled and herself deported. A lesson to be learned there for young Americans travelling overseas. God Bless her for having the strength and courage to endure what she had to endure.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 17, 2013 12:14 PM (7ObY1)

126 Do they strip search everyone before they go in a cell? I sincerely doubt it. If you're just in the holding cells, I think they just do a basic search (unless they have reason for more than that), and then put you in the cell.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 12:15 PM (PYAXX)

127 Preznit Stumblefuck will just ask the Indian consul and the State Department over for a couple of beers to smooth things over.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 17, 2013 12:15 PM (wtvvX)

128 I've settled on this, for my quick trips to Bangkok, to visit my "sister".

http://tinyurl.com/9mres4

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 04:11 PM (0FSuD)

You're gonna need an avionics tech for that thing. I happen to know a guy...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 17, 2013 12:15 PM (yh0zB)

129 This is why there is such a thing as diplomatic immunity. Doesn't matter if it's fair, this is how the world plays the game.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 17, 2013 03:51 PM (i2Lsf)

Diplomatic immunity is one of those things that at first makes no sense whatsoever, but upon a little reflection is a requirement for the interaction of government personnel assigned to countries with substantially different customs and legal systems. Note that publication of offenses committed while under diplomatic immunity is allowed, and the diplomat can be expelled from the country in which the "incident" occurred.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 17, 2013 12:16 PM (o3MSL)

130 a leader of the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party, said that some openly gay American diplomats are posted to India, where homosexuality is illegal. Â“So why doesnÂ’t the government of India go ahead and arrest all of them?Â” he said. "

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch

The US Left presumes that all socialists are progressives like themselves. Professing to "know and love all cultures" is more a case of oikophobia than it is exoticism.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 17, 2013 12:16 PM (B0gqn)

131 Just saw on Twitter that Matheson, the Dem who (barely) beat Mia Love, is not running again. DemocRats fleeing the sinking O-ship?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 17, 2013 12:16 PM (B/VB5)

132

Just thinking. About this Indian woman getting stripped searched and arrested for having a "slave girl". How many of the muzzie brotherhood POS's that Dear Leader has invited into the WH have "slave girls"?

Again, just thinking.

Posted by: John F'n Kerry at December 17, 2013 12:16 PM (r/Zvc)

133 Filing false papers by a diplomat is a case for expulsion and not arrest. She's a consular official, not a diplomat.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 12:16 PM (4QSOR)

134 @133 Well, I did hear it has the web via satellite, so we could still post while heading to Bangkok.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 12:17 PM (0FSuD)

135 Note that publication of offenses committed while under diplomatic immunity is allowed, and the diplomat can be expelled from the country in which the "incident" occurred. Also, if things are bad enough, sometimes home countries will agree to try said diplomat (in their own courts) for the crime. In extreme cases, they'll even simply withdraw diplomatic immunity. But there are channels to go through to get that done.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 12:17 PM (PYAXX)

136 They could have quietly demanded she be replaced on back channels. Does this get Bloomberg in trouble with the JEF?

Posted by: thunderb at December 17, 2013 12:17 PM (xmiN6)

137 Matheson is out?! MATHESON IS OUT?!

*Does happy dance*

Unless some high profile politician, Like Bennett, or someone with a prominent family name like Matheson or Romney throws hat in the ring, this seat is Mia Love's to lose! *throws confetti*

But that probably means he is gunning for something else...like Mike Lee's senate seat, perhaps, or a cushy job somewhere. Or just that he sees the writing on the wall and is getting out with some dignity.

Matheson is a dem, but a relatively respected one. If he is throwing in the towel...indicated a dem bloodbath in 2014?

Posted by: LizLem, who has Love for Mia at December 17, 2013 12:18 PM (BF+2f)

138 129 Filing false papers by a diplomat is a case for expulsion and not arrest. Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2013 04:14 PM (m2CN7) I am thinking false imprisonment might be in the mix, that and the feminist raising hell.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 12:18 PM (0FSuD)

139 Well, I did hear it has the web via satellite, so we could still post while heading to Bangkok.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 04:17 PM (0FSuD)

Sounds like that avionics tech should be an in-flight tech kind of guy...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 17, 2013 12:18 PM (yh0zB)

140 Hell, in the few months alone we've found out he's been conducting secret meetings with Iran, the Palestinian Authority, the Taliban, and Cuba. What could be left?

That's an excellent point, but I'll bet there are even more egregious illegal acts that have taken place under this regime.

Posted by: boned to the bone at December 17, 2013 12:18 PM (Ph479)

141 I studied this case extensively, and there wasn't a damn shred of evidence against her other than her own DNA being found in her own home. Yep, and none of her DNA was in the room of her murdered roommate. Which just means she's a sexy witch who seduced the killer into doing it for her.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 12:18 PM (4QSOR)

142 136 Just saw on Twitter that Matheson, the Dem who (barely) beat Mia Love, is not running again. DemocRats fleeing the sinking O-ship? --- Any of them running in red or purple districts / states would probably be best off cashing out now than scrambling for a job come November.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 12:18 PM (/Crba)

143 Well hell...time to go get ready for work. Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 17, 2013 12:19 PM (yh0zB)

144 Filing false papers by a diplomat is a case for expulsion and not arrest.

She's a consular official, not a diplomat.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 17, 2013 04:16 PM (4QSOR)

My position stands.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2013 12:19 PM (m2CN7)

145 But that probably means he is gunning for something else...like Mike Lee's senate seat, perhaps, or a cushy job somewhere. Or just that he sees the writing on the wall and is getting out with some dignity. Matheson is a dem, but a relatively respected one. If he is throwing in the towel...indicated a dem bloodbath in 2014? --- I'm thinking bloodbath, with the smarter ones looking for a soft landing spot sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 17, 2013 12:19 PM (/Crba)

146 Horseface sock off

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 12:19 PM (r/Zvc)

147 *meant prominent Utah name like Huntsman, not Matheson, was too excited to type properly*

Posted by: LizLem, who has Love for Mia at December 17, 2013 12:20 PM (BF+2f)

148 A consular official, but not the Consul?

My brother got to borrow the car of a Consul on his honeymoon. Drive as fast as you want. Nobody going to pull you over.

Posted by: Jimbo at December 17, 2013 12:20 PM (V70Uh)

149 Sounds like that avionics tech should be an in-flight tech kind of guy... Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 17, 2013 04:18 PM (yh0zB) Tribute, you volunteer as?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 12:20 PM (VtjlW)

150 Is it just me, or does cops strip searching an Indian female while her chainmail-bikini clad slave girl looks on sound like sort of a bad internet pron plot? That EoJ would like cough up a buck to see the video of, I mean.

Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at December 17, 2013 12:20 PM (3ZtZW)

151 Preznit Stumblefuck will just ask the Indian consul and the State Department over for a couple of beers to smooth things over.

With Prime Rib.

Posted by: toby928© from the Phantom Zone at December 17, 2013 12:20 PM (evdj2)

152 The US Left presumes that all socialists are progressives like themselves. Professing to "know and love all cultures" is more a case of oikophobia than it is exoticism.

Posted by: weft cut-loop

True dat.

Now, while I am an ardent civil libertarian and a true lover of exotic cultures, I will violate my core principles long enough to strip search Padma Lakshmi if she does something naughty.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at December 17, 2013 12:20 PM (A0sHn)

153 My position stands. Consular officers can be arrested and detained for felonies. It's an important distinction.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 12:21 PM (4QSOR)

154 131 Do they strip search everyone before they go in a cell? I spent one night in the tank during my wayward youth. They don't do an anal cavity search or anything like that, but you do have to remove all your clothing, and they give you an ill-fitting jumpsuit and sandals to wear. At least in Macomb County, Michigan, that's how it works. I'm betting the Indian diplomat or whatever she was just had to take off her sari and put on a jumpsuit. They can't have you hanging yourself with shoelaces, belts or torn saris or whatever. I did pick up a bit of prison poetry during my 24 hours in the slammer: I've fucked in France, I've fucked in Spain I've fucked up and down the coast of Maine But I'll never be happy, I'll never be free Till I've fucked Macomb County like they fucked me.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 17, 2013 12:21 PM (7ObY1)

155

91 some openly gay American diplomats are posted to India, where homosexuality is illegal. Â“So why doesnÂ’t the government of India go ahead and arrest all of them?Â” he said. "

Knowing Barry, he 'd probably launch nukes for that.

Posted by: wth at December 17, 2013 12:21 PM (wAQA5)

156 Is it just me, or does cops strip searching an Indian female while her chainmail-bikini clad slave girl looks on sound like sort of a bad internet pron plot? Brazzers. March 3rd, 2012.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2013 12:22 PM (qc7at)

157 Preznit Stumblefuck will just ask the Indian consul and the State Department over for a couple of beers to smooth things over.

With Prime Rib.

Posted by: toby928Â© from the Phantom Zone at December 17, 2013 04:20 PM (evdj2)

I love Prime Rib! I get it with fries and a drink at McDonalds!

Posted by: Joey Biden at December 17, 2013 12:22 PM (DrWcr)

158 Is it just me, or does cops strip searching an Indian female while her chainmail-bikini clad slave girl looks on sound like sort of a bad internet pron plot? That EoJ would like cough up a buck to see the video of, I mean. Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at December 17, 2013 04:20 PM (3ZtZW) Well, I wouldn't say bad . . . .

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 12:22 PM (VtjlW)

159 I'm betting the Indian diplomat or whatever she was just had to take off her sari and put on a jumpsuit. That's my guess too. I doubt they did a cavity search, otherwise that'd be their claim and not "strip search".

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 12:23 PM (4QSOR)

160 Knowing Barry, he 'd probably launch nukes for that. No, he won't. Trust me on this.

Posted by: Zombie Chris Stephens at December 17, 2013 12:24 PM (PYAXX)

161 Nood on picking cherries.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2013 12:25 PM (qc7at)

162 156 Preznit Stumblefuck will just ask the Indian consul and the State Department over for a couple of beers to smooth things over. With Prime Rib - Holy cow!

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 17, 2013 12:26 PM (E+uky)

163

I doubt they did a cavity search

They bring in a dentist, too? Man they're thorough...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 17, 2013 12:28 PM (DrWcr)

164 'The Administration delayed defining what constituted an Obamacare-compliant "essential benefits plan" in order to avoid "controversy." Thus avoiding an earlier discussion about the "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan" lie...' Well, that, plus delaying the release of details about ObamaCare that were needed for the design of the web site and the underlying databases and communications links, cutting short critical development time. This was a huge contribution to HealthCare.gov crashing on takeoff on October 1.

Posted by: Socratease at December 17, 2013 12:32 PM (3V4IJ)

165 136 Just saw on Twitter that Matheson, the Dem who (barely) beat Mia Love, is not running again. DemocRats fleeing the sinking O-ship?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 17, 2013 04:16 PM (B/VB5)

I posted a link a few weeks ago that Mia Love IS running. And this time she doesn't have a shitty Presidential candidate to drag her down.

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 12:32 PM (T2V/1)

166 138 She's a consular official, not a diplomat.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 17, 2013 04:16 PM (4QSOR)

She is an "envoy" which is a diplomat.

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 12:34 PM (T2V/1)

167 Eggs, omelette, whatevs. Now off to take some selfies while I stroke my wood on the greens.

Posted by: Gaius Octavius Oflatulence at December 17, 2013 12:51 PM (dvRYt)

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