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August 12, 2013

Whitey Bulger and the Endlessly Corruptible Ruling Class
— Ace

There's nothing to celebrate in the Bulger verdict, David Lewis Schaefer writes at NRO.

The fact that Bulger got away with his crimes for so long thanks to collusion with and bribery of the FBI constitutes a major black mark on that widely esteemed organization. In addition, it is shameful for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts that BulgerÂ’s brother Bill served for a record 18 years as president of the state senate, immediately followed by appointment to the presidency of the state university Â– despite remaining in periodic contact with his brother and concealing whatever knowledge he had of WhiteyÂ’s whereabouts from the authorities. (One of Mitt RomneyÂ’s finest moments as Massachusetts governor was his forcing Bill to resign from his lucrative university position.)

Andy, @theh2, earlier linked this Jeff Jacoby piece on the government's own collusion with Whitey. And I don't just mean Bill Bulger, president of the Massachusetts state senate and then president of the University of Massachusetts.

But Bulger wasnÂ’t the only one on trial in BostonÂ’s federal courthouse. So was the government trying him. Bulger and his henchmen may have been the degenerates who physically committed the gruesome murders and other crimes that jurors learned about during 35 days of sometimes stomach-churning testimony. But it was other degenerates, in the FBI and the Justice Department, who for so long enabled BulgerÂ’s bloody mayhem. They enlisted Bulger as an informant, protected him from police investigations, and warned him to flee when an indictment was imminent. Â“If the FBI had not made Whitey its favorite mobster, broken the rules, and rigged the game to his benefit,Â” reporter David Boeri has concluded, Â“Bulger would never have reached as high as he did.Â”
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It would be comforting to believe that this was a one-off, that law enforcement agencies never abuse their authority, that the immense powers of the federal government are always deployed with scrupulous integrity. But no one believes that.

He then links the government's behavior in the Bulger case with the generalized lawlessness of the current administration.

Posted by: Ace at 02:55 PM | Comments (139)
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1 The thing everyone is ignoring is the Feds knew exactly where Whitey was 'hiding' the whole time. Obama and Holder picked him up out of sheer whimsy.

Posted by: soothsayer lightfoot at August 12, 2013 02:59 PM (TH/ZI)

2 Ah the Departed. Too bad the ending of the movie didn't work out in real life.

Posted by: Per-Bert at August 12, 2013 02:59 PM (cK0tU)

3
I've made a good living writing and speculating about Whitey Bulger.

Posted by: Howie Carr, WRKO Spinmeister at August 12, 2013 03:01 PM (pJF+c)

4 Yup. It's the case that made me anti death penalty in MA. I was pissed as hell when chicanery and last minute Party switching derailed it, but in hindsight I'm glad. When you know the Cops, the Judges and the FBI will conspire to kill innocent men, or cover it up, you get wise real quick. That said, I really wish more criminals could be executed, but I can't actively campaign for it anymore.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 03:01 PM (ZshNr)

5 That the Boston FBI office was notorious corrupt wasn't even a loosely held secret back in the early 80's when I was living there for a few years. Everyone who lived in MA knew it.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 12, 2013 03:02 PM (di+Lf)

6 The Korean movie ( actually one of a trilogy) the Departed was remade from was MUCHO Bettero than Teh Departed. Highly recommend you guys..

Posted by: Yip at August 12, 2013 03:03 PM (/jHWN)

7 Why didn't we know about this?

"One of Mitt RomneyÂ’s finest moments as Massachusetts governor was his forcing Bill to resign from his lucrative university position."

Now that would have been a hell of a campaign ad.... juxtapose that against all of Obama's Chicago terrorist cronies including Bill Ayers!

Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at August 12, 2013 03:03 PM (L4CWX)

8 Republican Party calling me for money. Nada.

Posted by: NCKate at August 12, 2013 03:03 PM (kwl+3)

9 Whitey Guilty! Of course there reason to celebrate!

Posted by: Every Black Racist out there.. at August 12, 2013 03:04 PM (lZBBB)

10 The Boston FBI fell for Whitey's bullshit Irish charm and the steady string if arrests he fed them, so they covered up his even worse crimes. It's a mistake that has burned many a cop's career. Cops have to have informants or no one would get arrested, but they can't let the informant forget who runs who.

Posted by: UGAdawg at August 12, 2013 03:04 PM (WYOrt)

11 Them lawz be for thee, but not for me. Justice 4 Whitey. My new bumper sticker.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 12, 2013 03:05 PM (PH+2B)

12 Execute Whitey.

Posted by: Johnny Shabazz, New Black Panther's Party at August 12, 2013 03:05 PM (v1mq9)

13 When do we get a post about the new bank drive-in numatic tube people mover bullshit.... a great idea especially since it will be powered by solar and wind and unicorn shit. The future is teh awesome... or is it??? Da Da Daaaaaaa

Posted by: Yip at August 12, 2013 03:05 PM (/jHWN)

14 ...the generalized lawlessness of the current administration... **** Wasn't Obama a professor of Generalized Lawlessness or something?

Posted by: Beto at August 12, 2013 03:08 PM (MhA4j)

15 But, hey, the government can totes be trusted with everyone's health information, swearsies.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 12, 2013 03:09 PM (Gk3SS)

16 Whitey is ALWAYS guilty!!!

Posted by: some dick suffering from touré syndrome at August 12, 2013 03:09 PM (4qnX5)

And by finding Whitey guilty, we have proven that the Justice System is working...

Just as the Justice system exonerated those poor Black Panthers who were accused of Voter intimidation...

Posted by: eric Holder at August 12, 2013 03:09 PM (lZBBB)

18 He always told me he sold "insurance". I don't get out much, so I didn't need any.

Posted by: William Bulger, democrat president MA Senate at August 12, 2013 03:11 PM (wR+pz)

19 I have run out of new Breaking Bad episodes on Netflix.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at August 12, 2013 03:11 PM (3HfFg)

20 Massachusetts has a strong track record of keeping repugnant shitheels in positions of power far, far longer than judging on wisdom or competence would otherwise allow.

Although in Whitey's case he seems to have been a highly competent crook. And honest about it, too. So at least he's got that on Teddy, Kerry, et al.

I'd rather be governed by 535 Whitey Bulgers than the faculty at Harvard.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 12, 2013 03:11 PM (6WVi+)

21 I would take the Harvard janitorial staff over either.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 03:12 PM (ZshNr)

22 8 Republican Party calling me for money. Nada. Posted by: NCKate at August 12, 2013 07:03 PM (kwl+3) Just called me too. I hung up.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 12, 2013 03:12 PM (wR+pz)

23 Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at August 12, 2013 07:11 PM (3HfFg)

So did my wife until she watched the new/last season's episode 1 last night.

Posted by: Per-Bert at August 12, 2013 03:12 PM (cK0tU)

24 Some animals are more equal than others.

Posted by: Lauren at August 12, 2013 03:14 PM (ELdpj)

25 I've always hoped that somehow the Gardner heist would get involved in Whitey's trial, but that was a long shot. Those guys were slick, Whitey's guys were thugs.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 03:14 PM (ZshNr)

26 The Boston FBI fell for Whitey's bullshit Irish charm and the steady string if arrests he fed them, so they covered up his even worse crimes.

It was deeper than that. The whole Boston city government in the 80's was corrupt from top to bottom, not just the local FBI office.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 12, 2013 03:16 PM (di+Lf)

27 Yes, Purp. It was a fucking disaster of corruption. Even today, haven't we (well not me anymore, but my family/property) had 3 out of our last 4 Senate Presidents leave office under arrest/indictment? Imagine it being worse. Not even mentioning the Pike, which somebody should make a movie about.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 03:19 PM (ZshNr)

28 I blame Whitey

Posted by: Deval Patrick at August 12, 2013 03:19 PM (zPVBH)

29 Check out the NY Slime story. NO mention of Whitey's brother, BUT the comments are all over it. They all suggest cover up too.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 12, 2013 03:21 PM (wR+pz)

30 Was he going out for skittles and Merlot? If so he must have deserved it. Or something.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 12, 2013 03:22 PM (3naIf)

31 Would a criminal named 'Blackie' been allowed to run roughshod over the people of Boston for so long? Racists

Posted by: Race Card Reverend Al at August 12, 2013 03:22 PM (Pr6hk)

32 26 Purp. Boston was not alone. Not then. Not now.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 12, 2013 03:23 PM (3naIf)

33 So did my wife until she watched the new/last season's episode 1 last night.

Posted by: Per-Bert at August 12, 2013 07:12 PM (cK0tU)

Yeah, well I have to wait. I am sans cable.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at August 12, 2013 03:23 PM (3HfFg)

34 Why would anyone believe that Massachusetts authorities would give certain people preferential treatment.

Posted by: Senator Edward M. Kennedy at August 12, 2013 03:23 PM (Pr6hk)

35 >>Why didn't we know about this? We did. But it was much more fun to call him a RINO every day and lose.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2013 03:23 PM (g1DWB)

36 I think Blackie was the name of Teresa Stanley/Whitey's dog. Might be urban legend.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 03:24 PM (ZshNr)

37 31. Would one named "W-P" or "M-CK"?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 12, 2013 03:24 PM (3naIf)

38 There still seems to be several FBI and Justice Dept people who are free of all charges who should not be. How many FBI people went to jail? I know that Connelly guy did.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2013 03:24 PM (J79eW)

39 lincolntf: I took some pictures...email addy in nic. Thanks

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 12, 2013 03:24 PM (l3vZN)

40 30 Was he going out for skittles and Merlot?
If so he must have deserved it. Or something.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 12, 2013 07:22 PM (3naIf)

What, no truffles?

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at August 12, 2013 03:24 PM (3HfFg)

41 Endlessly Corruptible Ruling Class

You rang?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 12, 2013 03:25 PM (Pr6hk)

42 I should have become a snitch when I had the chance

Posted by: Aaron Hernandez at August 12, 2013 03:26 PM (Pr6hk)

43 But it was much more fun to call him a RINO every day and lose.

Yep. Romney was not nearly conservative enough, but he seems to be a damn fine man. Wouldn't it be nice to have a damn fine man in the Office of the President of the United States? I think so.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2013 03:26 PM (J79eW)

44 Will do when I get to PC, jinx. I've been pondering the few deets I have since earlier. Getting my concrete memory back, so to speak. I can picture our job, but I can picture it a thousand different ways. Can't wait to see which one it is.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 03:27 PM (ZshNr)

45 Endwesswy Cowwuptible Wuling Cwass

You wang?

Posted by: Bwarney Fwank at August 12, 2013 03:27 PM (Pr6hk)

46 I really don't see the problem here.

Posted by: Client #9 at August 12, 2013 03:28 PM (Pr6hk)

47 Your job, I meant.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 03:28 PM (ZshNr)

48 But it was much more fun to call him a RINO every day and lose.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2013 07:23 PM (g1DWB)

Please. Candy Crowley made him look like punk in the middle of an Foreign Policy disaster that should have sunk Obama.

Romney failed to convince that he could lead due to moments like that. And I voted for him anyway - but everyone isn't me.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at August 12, 2013 03:28 PM (3HfFg)

49 Deval, don't say a thing

Posted by: David Axlerod at August 12, 2013 03:29 PM (Pr6hk)

50 Whitey had OVER $800,000 stashed in his CA home. That's a lot of cash to hide and that was what was left over from his spending for 15 years on the run. Wonder what he started with?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 12, 2013 03:29 PM (wR+pz)

51 Thanks....

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 12, 2013 03:30 PM (l3vZN)

52 Another one who might be even worse. Colombo family capo Gregory Scarpa Sr. Covered for by the FBI for 30 years and over 50 murders.

http://ow.ly/212AmH

Posted by: geoffb at August 12, 2013 03:30 PM (d3wbb)

53
Wonder what he started with?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 12, 2013 07:29 PM (wR+pz)

And if there were any other caches.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at August 12, 2013 03:30 PM (3HfFg)

54 Endlessly Corruptible Ruling Class

Your tone infers that this would be a bad thing. Let's see what's in your file.

Posted by: Eric The Chinless at August 12, 2013 03:30 PM (Pr6hk)

55 Just for the hell of it I tried from my tablet and got 404 error.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 03:31 PM (ZshNr)

56 Whitey had OVER $800,000 stashed in his CA home.

That's a lot of cash to hide and that was what was left over from his spending for 15 years on the run.

I doubt that's all he had left. The man's too cagey to put all his money in one place.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2013 03:31 PM (J79eW)

57 Endlessly Corruptible Ruling Class

You talking to me?

Posted by: Harry Reid is a pederast at August 12, 2013 03:32 PM (Pr6hk)

58 Trust me. No dishonest people here in MA. Seriously. You guys. No really! Honest Injun!

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at August 12, 2013 03:32 PM (3naIf)

59 Is there any chance Mr. Bulger would be interested in running for Governor of our fine state?

Posted by: Illinois Voters at August 12, 2013 03:33 PM (Pr6hk)

60 Corruptible... Only with the wealthy widows

Posted by: John Kerry at August 12, 2013 03:33 PM (Pr6hk)

61 No corruption in MA. I can prove it. I have it on tape.

Posted by: NSA at August 12, 2013 03:34 PM (3naIf)

62 Sorry for the early OT, but CA sports are about to get interesting, or real stupid. California Gov. Jerry Brown signed a controversial bill into law Monday afternoon allowing the stateÂ’s transgender public school students to choose which bathrooms they use and whether they participate in boy or girl sports.

Posted by: RWC at August 12, 2013 03:34 PM (uRqqf)

63 Somebody linked this a couple threads down: http://tinyurl.com/lp84unp Heh.

Posted by: rickl at August 12, 2013 03:34 PM (sdi6R)

64 Endlessly Corruptible Ruling Class

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Posted by: Mary Jo at August 12, 2013 03:34 PM (Pr6hk)

65 >>Please. Candy Crowley made him look like punk in the middle of an Foreign Policy disaster that should have sunk Obama.Romney failed to convince that he could lead due to moments like that. And I voted for him anyway - but everyone isn't me. That could be the dumbest thing I've seen posted here in some time. Has that foreign policy disaster sunk Obama yet? Hillary? Anyone? No, no it hasn't. Because to date the msm of which Candy Crowley is a charter member refuses to report the truth. Yes, it would have been awesome had Romney decided to forget he was running against Obama and start mincing words with the moderator because that sure would have shown her. And everyone. Or no it wouldn't have.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2013 03:35 PM (g1DWB)

66 I would've totally dominated my HS girls basketball team. If we had girls...

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 03:35 PM (ZshNr)

Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2013 07:26 PM (J79eW)

GW Bush was a dam fine Man as well....

And gave us the DHS, two Wars, thousands dead, Drone Strikes, and the NSA spying on every American...

Hell.... at this point I'd rather have an Evil Genius, who wants America to be strong....

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 12, 2013 03:35 PM (lZBBB)

68 Whitey was only half Irish. His dad was Newfie, English as far as I know.

But he made lots of friends from Irish and Italian wiseguys. Also he killed lots of folk who wouldn't play ball.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 12, 2013 03:35 PM (d7tB2)

69 off sock

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 12, 2013 03:35 PM (l3vZN)

70 56 Whitey had OVER $800,000 stashed in his CA home. He'd need a chest freezer for that. Just saying.

Posted by: Former Rep Jefferson at August 12, 2013 03:36 PM (3naIf)

71 Endlessly Corruptible Ruling Class

you have to pass that bill to see what is in it

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at August 12, 2013 03:36 PM (Pr6hk)

72 California Gov. Jerry Brown signed a controversial bill into law Monday afternoon allowing the stateÂ’s transgender public school students to choose which bathrooms they use and whether they participate in boy or girl sports.

I wonder what havoc that will play with Title 9. All those boys who can't play sports because there aren't enough girls playing could be solved by some trickery. What if they started a "girls team" staffed fully of boys, who wanted to play in a boy's team league? Would each of those boys be counted as a girl for Title 9 accounting? I think they would.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2013 03:36 PM (45N4D)

73 @43 A good and genuine man, far, far better than the pencil-necked Socialist President Michael Jackson. I voted for Romney.
But have you ever examined Mormonism? A more risible confabulation of claptrap even I would have difficulty surpassing... and I post on AoS/HQ!

Posted by: Cretin, high-grade moron material at August 12, 2013 03:37 PM (Fq0dl)

74 Endlessly Corruptible Ruling Class

I resemble that remark

Posted by: Rod Blogovich at August 12, 2013 03:37 PM (Pr6hk)

75 Glad he's finished. He was a terrible quarterback.

Posted by: Low Information Voter at August 12, 2013 03:37 PM (Dwehj)

which bathrooms they use and whether they participate in boy or girl sports.

Posted by: RWC at August 12, 2013 07:34 PM (uRqqf)

Which immediately knocks California out of any Collegiate Out of State Sports... like track meets...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 12, 2013 03:37 PM (lZBBB)

77 I doubt that's all he had left. The man's too cagey to put all his money in one place. Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2013 07:31 PM (J79eW) I don't know. Despite what some have suggested, I think he had gone to ground. Didn't travel outside the neighborhood. He was paranoid. Wonder what happen to the woman he was living with?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 12, 2013 03:37 PM (wR+pz)

78 Endlessly Corruptible Ruling Class

I'll never talk about it

Posted by: Ron Brown at August 12, 2013 03:38 PM (Pr6hk)

79 Endlessly Corruptible Ruling Class

Corrupt is a little harsh.

Posted by: Sandy Berger at August 12, 2013 03:39 PM (Pr6hk)

80 GW Bush was a dam fine Man as well....

And gave us the DHS, two Wars, thousands dead, Drone Strikes, and the NSA spying on every American...

Hell.... at this point I'd rather have an Evil Genius, who wants America to be strong....

True enough, but I'm talking in the world of near reality, not far reality. I'd rather have Romney, a damn fine man, in office over Obama, a damned man.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2013 03:39 PM (45N4D)

81 Ace delivers another example of New Media's plateau. Thank you.

Posted by: USA at August 12, 2013 03:40 PM (VIaw0)

82 Endlessly Corruptible Ruling Class

You can't even begin to imagine

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at August 12, 2013 03:40 PM (Pr6hk)

83 So do we all get four more years of eligibility as a broad?

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 03:40 PM (ZshNr)

84 Endlessly Corruptible Ruling Class

Let's go for a walk in the park

Posted by: Vince Foster at August 12, 2013 03:41 PM (Pr6hk)

85 Which immediately knocks California out of any Collegiate Out of State Sports... like track meets... Posted by: Romeo13 at August 12, 2013 07:37 PM (lZBBB) They still haven't fully grasped the whole 'actions have consequences' mumbo jumbo.

Posted by: RWC at August 12, 2013 03:41 PM (uRqqf)

86 Sports recruiters are standing by for your call!

Posted by: East German Charter School of California at August 12, 2013 03:41 PM (l3vZN)

87 82 Endlessly Corruptible Ruling Class You can't even begin to imagine Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at August 12, 2013 07:40 PM (Pr6hk) Oh yeah, want to bet on that?

Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster at August 12, 2013 03:41 PM (wR+pz)

88 But have you ever examined Mormonism? A more risible confabulation of claptrap even I would have difficulty surpassing... and I post on AoS/HQ!

Interesting factoid: The smarter and better educated LDS people are more faithful on average than less intelligent and less well educated.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2013 03:42 PM (45N4D)

89 The horde thinks too much alike. Put down those aspirin Vince.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 12, 2013 03:43 PM (wR+pz)

90 Now that it gives them access to the girls bathroom, how many teen-age boys in CA are going to suddenly discover they are transgender?

Posted by: Retread at August 12, 2013 03:43 PM (Oz+LZ)

91 @88 the endless human capacity for self-delusion and the madness of crowds.

Posted by: Cretin, high-grade moron material at August 12, 2013 03:43 PM (Fq0dl)

92 If this were some little hispanic kid doing the same for GWB, the MSM and the dems would have been all over it.

Â‘God Has Gave YouÂ…Special PowersÂ’: Little BoyÂ’s Prayer to Barack Obama Posted on YouTube

http://tinyurl.com/jwzlf3s

Posted by: caustic at August 12, 2013 03:44 PM (/b8+5)

But have you ever examined Mormonism? A more risible confabulation of claptrap even I would have difficulty surpassing... and I post on AoS/HQ

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And you *haven't* noticed that bonhomme occasionally quotes from the Book of Mormon? I call shenanigans on your last bit.

He's also hardly the only Latter-Day Saint around here.

Posted by: junior at August 12, 2013 03:45 PM (UWFpX)

94 *(&^(* antiquated sex laws of the state must be repealed!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 12, 2013 03:45 PM (l3vZN)

95 But have you ever examined Mormonism?

I have. And then I compared it with the shit Obama believes. Advantage: Romney.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 12, 2013 03:45 PM (d7tB2)

96
It did give us the epic Nesbit (Neblitt?) image though (see sidebar).

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 12, 2013 03:46 PM (qM18f)

97 Listening to Larry Elder who had some Hollywood PR guy call in. He made a very cogent argument that this entire Oprah racist purse incident is entirely made up. He said Oprah's network is really hurting, the publicity can only help her, and since race baiting is the "thang" these days, she's capitalizing on it.

Posted by: Malcom Tucker at August 12, 2013 03:46 PM (tCBZk)

98 Like me, he'd make a great motivational speaker against the ills of corruption.

Posted by: Billy "White Owl" Clinton at August 12, 2013 03:47 PM (6xhLc)

99 Bush 41 was a damn fine man. Your choice then was either G. H. W. Bush or the complete nightmare Dukakis. There was no other choice. Bush was a sitting vice president, had served in Congress, had been head of the CIA and ambassador to China as well as head of the RNC.

I gladly voted for him. And before he gets castigated too much, remember that he neverpretended to be omniscient and so could not have known that Sutor would be a closet leftist, that his own budget guy wouldstab him in the back and insist he raise taxes, and that the democrats in the House and Senate would be traitors and try to undermine the Gulf War.

It's amazing to me that we won that thing.

Also, Bush ran a good foreign policy, unlike TFG.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 12, 2013 03:48 PM (GoIUi)

100 For myself, I'll take Angel Moroni astride the 3-year old, Nouveau Riche, in the 4th at Belmont.

Posted by: Cretin, high-grade moron material at August 12, 2013 03:48 PM (Fq0dl)

101 I'm shocked! First time any Whitey's been convicted in Amerika (cough Zimmerman)

Posted by: qestionmann at August 12, 2013 03:48 PM (TS9aB)

102 I'll never talk about it Posted by: Ron Brown at August 12, 2013 07:38 PM You need a reminder like you need another hole in your head! Ha!

Posted by: Beto at August 12, 2013 03:48 PM (MhA4j)

103 Posted by: caustic at August 12, 2013 07:44 PM (/b8+5)

Posted by: jem at August 12, 2013 03:49 PM (fM4kr)

104 I have. And then I compared it with the shit Obama believes. Advantage: Romney. Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 12, 2013 07:45 PM (d7tB2) You must be a fucking Psychic, what the fuck does Obama believe?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 12, 2013 03:50 PM (wR+pz)

105 I'll never talk about it

Posted by: Ron Brown at August 12, 2013 07:38 PM <<<<<

Me either.

Posted by: Amb. Chris Stevens at August 12, 2013 03:50 PM (qM18f)

106 I'm fine with Cretin thinking I'm self-deluded and madly following a crowd. I'd be happy to debate LDS doctrine anytime. I doubt it would be productive to debate with Cretin, but if you have any serious questions or points to make, I'd be happy to discuss.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2013 03:50 PM (QehQP)

107 "She then explained that Oprah eyed the $35,000 Swiss franc crocodile leather bag, which was far above on a rack and similar to the one she had in her hand, only much more expensive." http://tinyurl.com/ljdpguc

So now it's ok in leftyville to buy a bag made of crocodile? Thought crocodile was an endangered species and a no no, like blood diamonds. Dear God, were it Mrs. Romney they'd have; eviscerated her for even thinking of buying crocodile.

Posted by: caustic at August 12, 2013 03:50 PM (/b8+5)

108 @107 Right away, the ad hominem.

Posted by: Cretin, high-grade moron material at August 12, 2013 03:50 PM (Fq0dl)

109 When the whole Kevin White crew was being arrested and doing the perp walk on TV, my roomie, who was a sign salesman (and did permitting and such), hollered and said to come watch it.

He pointed one guy out in cuffs and said "Hey, that's the guy I handed a $500 bribe to to get the permits for the Back Bay Hilton job".

We'd talked about that bribe earlier and if it should be done at all but it was a big dollar job and the bribee had said (i.e. guaranteed) it could take almost a year for permitting sans-bribe. The Hilton didn't want to wait a year, so the Hilton manager green lighted the bribe.

That was how they did it. Pay the bribe and your permits got through fine. Don't pay and your shit was in stasis forever. Most people paid.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 12, 2013 03:51 PM (di+Lf)

110 OT and serious, relevant question. How will MST3K do the coed shower scene in Starship Trooper? Serious replies only, this is important. Serious guys.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue in before the post stomp at August 12, 2013 03:52 PM (dvRYt)

111 Posted by: caustic at August 12, 2013 07:50 PM (/b8+5)

Posted by: jem at August 12, 2013 03:53 PM (fM4kr)

112 Huh? Which part was ad hominem? The part where I said I doubt a discussion with you would be productive? That's not arguing against the man.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2013 03:53 PM (QehQP)

113

I'm fine with Cretin thinking I'm self-deluded and madly following a crowd. I'd be happy to debate LDS doctrine anytime. I doubt it would be productive to debate with Cretin, but if you have any serious questions or points to make, I'd be happy to discuss.

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Ignore him. Looks like a troll who inexplicably decided to jump in here just to complain about the LDS church.

Posted by: junior at August 12, 2013 03:54 PM (UWFpX)

114 @113 Sez you.
Start with the genetic challenge?

Posted by: Cretin, high-grade moron material at August 12, 2013 03:54 PM (Fq0dl)

115 Cretin is/was aka as thorvald. Something he was pretty strange on, and likes to argue for the sake of arguing. Other thing he kinda makes sense, but mostley like to argue.

Posted by: jem at August 12, 2013 03:56 PM (fM4kr)

116 Fwiw, corruption in the N.E. is hardly newsworthy in the rest of the United States.
Whitey who? Another Mass-hole.

Posted by: Cretin, high-grade moron material at August 12, 2013 03:56 PM (Fq0dl)

117 How will MST3K do the coed shower scene in Starship Trooper? Serious replies only, this is important. Serious guys.

References to other projects the individuals have been in, references to famous people the actors look like, if you catch anyone looking at anything, references to that.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2013 03:56 PM (QehQP)

118 Made up scandal

Posted by: King Baracka I at August 12, 2013 03:57 PM (jucos)

119

I'd rather have Romney, a damn fine man, in office over Obama, a damned man.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2013 07:39 PM (45N4D)

But... but.... Barry is a Fine Damn Man!

Posted by: Reggie Love at August 12, 2013 03:57 PM (lZBBB)

120 No Mormons around here, nope.

Posted by: David, infamous sock puppet[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 12, 2013 03:57 PM (w6ylO)

121 You must be a fucking Psychic, what the fuck does Obama believe?

I'm a better speech writer than my speech writers.

Posted by: Barry O at August 12, 2013 03:58 PM (z9HTb)

122 it's becoming troll-arama.

Posted by: seamrog at August 12, 2013 03:58 PM (ItMUo)

123 I love the Toure pix in the sidebar. lol

Posted by: Waldo at August 12, 2013 03:59 PM (tCBZk)

124 I think you can expect trouble from anyone named Whitey. Only met one in my life, but he was enough.

Posted by: UWP at August 12, 2013 04:00 PM (r98SZ)

125 Billy Bob: Obama believes (at the least) in transnational progressivism, a gnostic heresy based on Calvinism. He believes that mankind is innately perfectible, and that it needs an elect to govern it.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 12, 2013 04:01 PM (d7tB2)

126 Ttroll-arama should be a film genre.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 04:01 PM (ZshNr)

127 Speaking of Mormons, remember during the primaries when we had a dedicated Mormon monitoring the blog? What was his Nic? He had a Mormon blog too.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 12, 2013 04:01 PM (wR+pz)

128 "Come", said Dr Campbell, "We do not want to get the better of one another, we want to increase each other's ideas". Dr Johnson took it in good part, and the conversation then went on coolly and instructively. His candour in relating this anecdote does him much credit and his conduct on that occasion proves how easily he could be persuaded to talk from a better motive than for victory. --Boswell's "Life of Johnson", v. 5, p. 369

Posted by: Cretin, high-grade moron material at August 12, 2013 04:02 PM (Fq0dl)

129 new clowning it up thread

Posted by: caustic at August 12, 2013 04:02 PM (/b8+5)

130 Stupid extra t.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 04:02 PM (ZshNr)

131 Wasn't me (I don't have a blog).

Posted by: David, infamous sock puppet[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 12, 2013 04:03 PM (w6ylO)

132 Anyway, better a LDS than a neo-Bogomil. It's less strain on the colon for a start.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 12, 2013 04:03 PM (d7tB2)

133 "You must be a fucking Psychic, what the fuck does Obama believe?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 12, 2013 07:50 PM (wR+pz)"

Well, for starters, he seems to believe that Socialism can work as long as the right people are in charge.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 12, 2013 04:03 PM (31Nrp)

134

Troll-arama

for ooobama

Posted by: seamrog at August 12, 2013 04:04 PM (ItMUo)

135 I am re-watching Season 3 of Breaking Bad and I have to say it is outstanding. The acting and the writing. There are just so many great scenes: the "Run!" scene the Gayle "you don't have to do this" scene" the Wendy scene the Hank spills his heart out to Marie scene the "one minute warning" scene the Marie gets Hank out of the hospital scene the junkyard constitutionalist scene the crazy twins from Mejico scenes and many more I can not list.

Posted by: Waldo at August 12, 2013 04:10 PM (tCBZk)

136

131 Lincolntf

Sounded like the start of the old Knack song "T-t-t-t-troll-arama"

(my sharona)

Posted by: seamrog at August 12, 2013 04:10 PM (ItMUo)

137 Start with the genetic challenge?

That's actually a pretty easy one. FAIR has a good starting point here:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/m99puub

Essentially there does not exist a good known source of mDNA from ancient Israel. The people of the Book of Mormon were a small group within a large group of people who migrated across the Asiatic land bridge. Markers disappear when a small group is subsumed into a large group. If there did exist a good source of mDNA from ancient Israel, and we could identify specific markers, it would take a good deal of sampling to find if those markers don't exist among Native Americans. No such study has been done. If such a study is ever possible, and is done, I'm confident those markers would be found to some degree.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2013 04:13 PM (IoTdl)

138 FBI used to have my esteem and even admiration... but that's been a while now. Hard to earn, easy to lose.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 12, 2013 04:14 PM (qyfb5)

139 We would be fools to believe that the local law authorities were not also culpable in the bulger case. That is why the case was SO carefully constructed so that the law authorities (local and fed)were kept clear of any scrutiny. And because of that, sets the state up for years of appeals and money paid for this circus.

Posted by: J at August 13, 2013 05:06 AM (3GsRm)

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